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>mcdonalds strutlet status: mogged
>>28433582
>anon contemplates buying an eagle summit
>>28457801
>challyposting, challyseething, complete challydomination, germoid appliance weeb rage
>>28460107

this is a reminder to wash your penistar

>>28460221
Hmm, looks roomy

>>28460229
mopar giveth and mopar taketh away

>>28460229
>>28460266
YEAP AIN'T NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT
seriously though i think it's a cool engine. first ever time really dealing with mopars and learning how even though they sold less back then compared to gm or ford, they always punched above their weight when it came to the engineering.

Copar more like mope mar oaml

>>28460307
probably the one thing that has really survived all these years is that human-engineered soul. they really do still build their cars with the idea that people will be owning them, first-time mechanics will be poking around inside and fixing stuff and doing dumb mods. everything is sensibly laid out and easy to get to even when you get dumb shit like a battery in a front bumper, it's not like ford who will hide the entire central vacuum accumulator system in there with no access except to take the entire fender off or chevy that just barfs components all over the engine bay without any regard for what they're next to so you get ecus that sit directly in exhaust heat.

if anybody in the us were to go outside right now and look at the oldest cars still driving around i guarantee they will almost all be mopars and toyotas. you can count the 2000-2010 fords and chevies on one hand i bet.

>>28460324
any ford with a v8 is probably still going strong, my marquis still is. their economy cars suck to work on thoughever

>>28460192 (OP)
How much should I pay for a Dodge Stealth R/T? Yes I know it’s a mitsu

>>28460424
and to be fair mopars small cars of that era were mostly terrible too, all the automatic calibers should be dead or dying, but the old pacifica, durangos, neons, ja platform avengers, and 3.5 LX just seem to keep going and going. i even see a surprising amount of LH cars about still, even neons and pts.

>>28460428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_QyzYLP924

This little retard could do 0-60 in 5.8s in 1991.

>>28465702
i find it amusing that's just as quick as a v6 chally of today

>>28465742
But muh safety

>>28465791
pretty much every k-car was a deathtrap
just don't crash lole

>>28465742
224 hp in a tin can gets you places.

>>28465791
You joke but driving one of those things over 100 mph is a death wish.

>>28465804
my grandma pulled out into traffic and got t-boned in one at what was probably about 40 mph, if it hadn't been the extreme front end of the car that got hit she woulda been red mist

>>28462093
>>28467791
>doesn't make enough power to slide 4k lbs
>posts this niggerlicious stuff instead
Pic related?

>>28467826
it slides fine thoughbeit
burnout webm was me testing the hellcat diff swap
second webm is not really a corner

what color is your challenger?

Where are the other 392 chads? I know you’re lurking.

>>28467831
>it slides fine
>doesn't post webm or even a still frame of said sliding
Sure retard, we believe you.

>>28465702
How is this '91 four-banger as quick as my 2015 V8-powered 300C?

>>28468575
It's 1,200lbs lighter.

>>28467844
My 392 is getting a new clutch kit installed :)

>>28467826
Stop bullying Challwally poster. He should probably buy a V8 and stop pouring money into the V6 but at least he beats the shit out of his V6.

V8 or bust.

>>28473431
this. anyone who gets a V6 Challenger/Charger is a faggot

I love the chally but the v6 guy really needs to embrace the v8 hemi

>>28473421
>stop making fun of peesix boi
Nah, I'm good.
>>28473431
>>28473439
These guys get it.

>>28473450
the pentastar literally saved chrysler from bankruptcy and if it wasn't for a minivan engine we wouldn't even have this thread because the lx platform would not exist

>>28473457
>the lx platform would not exist
The Rentalshart didn't even exist when the LX platformed debuted in '04('05 MY) you deluded retard.

>>28473431
>>28473439
>>28473453
pentakino three sex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NARH MDS V4-6-8

>>28473466
the platform was designed around the phoenix which began development in 2003. the 3.5 and 2.8 engines were leftovers from the LH bodies. the phoenix project became the pentastar.

LX was MADE for VEE SEX

>>28473469
https://www.allpar.com/d3/history/interviews/burke-brown-lx.html

>Dave: I’ve heard stories about the LX being delayed to make it rear wheel drive after the Mercedes deal, that there was a design that was replaced.

>That story sounds like it would have been more like what was going on back about the time the 300M was out there. Could we make it a rear-wheel drive car? We could have, but we weren’t ready for that yet marketwise or anything. So no; once we got going on the car, it was pretty much what you saw. It was V6s and then Hemi.

>It was V6s and then Hemi.
>It was V6s and then Hemi.
>It was V6s and then Hemi.

pentaGOD forever saving the weak femi from certain extinction

>>28473457
Always been true. Low end trims support the badass high-end ones. They've sold a lot more V6 Challengers/Chargers than V8's.

>>28473466
True, but the 300 and Magnum base trims came with a 190 HP 2.7L V6. Thank goodness that was replaced. 0-60 in 10.5 seconds.

>>28473469
>>28473480
>we already had the 2.7 and 3.5L from other shitty chryslers
>the hemi was new for the ram in '03
The fact that your reading comprehension is this bad, or intentionally this bad is scary.
>>28473483
Nobody said the rentalshart wasn't an upgrade for the dog ass 2.7L Anon. Just that only a retard would stan for it so hard.

>>28468575
>How is this '91 four-banger as quick as my 2015 V8-powered 300C?
Pigfat is part of it, as previously noted.

Also the 300C Hemi is basically the R/T package in the Challenger and Charger and those don't have limited slip along with fairly narrow tires. Sling a limited slip under there and it'll knock most of a second off the 0-60 both due to the increased traction and also because the car won't be working against you with the throttle and brakes trying to find some traction. Get the rest of that second off with 295 or 305 tires instead of the factory 245's. Get set up to tune and you can knock off a bit more by cutting the torque limiting down but that'll show more on longer runs than 0-60 which won't have that many shifts.

Another thing here too, old turbo cars like that one launched fairly softly since it would take a bit for boost to come up, even when power-loaded against the brakes, so it acted a bit like a passive launch control improving that old car's 0-60 over what it would have been with a more powerful N/A engine.

>>28473483
>True, but the 300 and Magnum base trims came with a 190 HP 2.7L V6. Thank goodness that was replaced. 0-60 in 10.5 seconds
this was also the engine with the water pump internal leak issues and the class action lawsuit that nobody liked. the full fat 3.5 was better but still a boat anchor
the penta is on a completely different planet from those two

>>28473497
>>we already had the 2.7 and 3.5L from other shitty chryslers
yeah they were left over from the water pump debacle and used while the pstar was still in development.
the 2009 challenger v6 had a damn 3.5 and a 4-speed ultradrive, not even the nag1, because that just what was laying around the factory at the time.

keep in mind, this is dodge, while they're building these cars the company is perpetually imploding around them and even if it takes a couple shakes of the parts-bin they somehow manage to shit out undeniably perfect god machines adored the world over.

>>28473497
>>the hemi was new for the ram in '03
dodges "new" engines are often first spotted in trucks and suvs. it's working that way again with the hemi coming back, even though if you count the rango it never really even left.

according to engineer interviews, actual pstar development started around the same time the LX was being finalized which would have been '03, '04. The project to replace the LH engines started in '99. people started actually hearing about it outside Chrysler in 2006, then there was a recession and chrysler went bankrupt, Cerberus tried to kill the Pentastar and buy VQs instead until it was proven the Pstar was both more efficient and cheaper to build, and the Pstar enticed Fiat to buy Chrysler and develop the Ferrari/Maserati F160 from it which ultimately lead to the Ferrari F163 120 degree V6 that just won Le Mans.

say it with me now
GOD.
MACHINE.

like look at this shit
>huge obvious benistar derived coolant crossover
>unitized exhaust manifolds
>THE FUCKING OIL COOLER
god bless the v6
god bless the usa

>>28473467
MANual Hemi's don't have MDS.

>>28473753
manual hemis are slower around a track than a gr86 too
miss me with that oregon trail shit gimmie da ZF8

>>28473546
say it with me now
VIPER.
V10.

>>28473771
you can buy two challys for less than the price of one viper and still end up with more cylinders thoughbeit

>>28471091
Nice

>talking to mom on the phone
>she starts randomly seething about my chally
>oh it's so expensive you spend so much money (i do proactive preventative maintenance and have a stockpile of parts)
>it's always going through tires (i drive around 45k mi a year or more and buy cheap/used so i can do skids)
>it uses so much gas (she drives a fucking 2010 subaru forester that gets 22 mpg in a leap year with a tailwind)
>well _we_ don't spend that much on our cars (stepdad owns an absolutely thrashed manual ex-rental 2005 corolla with the original clutch and a throwout bearing that could sing at carnegie hall)
>well son i've driven more cars than you and blah blah blah (i literally have a bachelors degree in automotive technology)

why are non-mopar people so stupid?

>>28474294
Yeah I stopped buying expensive tires because I always burn through them in under 10k miles. On my fourth pair of back tires in 33k miles lol
t. ScatChad

>>28474652
based
i end up shredding em probably every 6-8 months between driving for work and hooning. one time i bought some accelera phi-rs and they were gone in less than a month rofl
really fucking fun to skid on, very smooth even in the dry, but i really should have bought the wider and thicker ones.

>>28473467
>>28473753
if you or a loved one are affected by MDS call now!

Was in a museum display this weekend. I wish I got a picture of my car with some of the others in that hall, I was too busy looking at the other cars mostly.

>>28474652
>>28474681
lol cheeky, sounds like you're having a ball of a time with your cars
>>28475360
ever thought about getting the mopar duckbill spoiler? i feel like these cars look a lot better with those than the go fast wing, that's just me though

>>28475360
Sick pic Anon.

>>28474681
is that supposed to disable MDS or something? Every time I see stuff about Diablo tuner, it's always on a junk 3.6 pentashit

Green charger anon here. Took a nice 45 minute drive in the countryside ripping with the paddle shifters. It was fun. Old pic but very related

>>28475771
Comfy. After getting my Challenger I make excuses to drive it.

>>28475771
the paddles are so comf
upshifting with stick, downshifting with paddle, just croozin
i got the hellcat extended ones so i can reach them from a more natural 10 or 11 o'clock hand position

>>28477329
the driving posture of the challenger might the most comfortable a human could possibly ever be. it's not like soft or couchlike but ergonomically perfect like a herman miller chair where they worked out the perfect angle to rest your elbows at and other smart shit. any excuse to take the long way is a good one.

Bump mopar threads
Participate in mopar threads
Respond kindly to mopar owners

>>28478855
preach it brother

Thinking of suing Dodge for free money if they bring the hemi back since my last call will no longer be a last call.

I'm in need of new tires for my '03 ram 1500, and I've got a good deal on those 37 inch humvee bajas. However I am not really a tire person and different websites and forums say I need different things to make this fit. So far have been told I need a lift kit of indeterminate height, 3/4 inch spacers so the rims go over the calipers, and that's it. Is that it? Does this even work? It'd be real nice for hunting if it works.

about time for another +5k miles oil change.
It will be a pleasant weekend.

lol, boss gave me shit for "wasting my money" buying an old c-body barge, this is coming from the guy that spent 500 bucks for an oil and spark plug change on a rav4 lmfao

Wish I had a shop.
Theres a beat to fuck 1970 chally with a 440 near me for 12k obo.

>>28480069
Buy it breh

>>28475717
>is that supposed to disable MDS or something?
yeah you can disable it completely. That one specifically is for 11-14 chargers, the 15 and up challys/chargers I think have a different computer system.
Lets you change a few other things and put a put tune on it (one of the provided generic tunes or a canned one). Can disable the traction control completely which even my 5.7 absolutely roasts the tires at the slightest throttle, but it auto-resets to default traction control after the cars been turned on and off twice. All the other changes stay just the hardwired traction control. Basically got to pull the fuse if you want to truly disable it on the 11 - 14 model years.

The weather has been just absolute shit for 2 weeks already, rain, rain and more rain. I want to drive dammit.

>>28483701
>the 15 and up challys/chargers I think have a different computer system.
They do. 15+ have to have the PCM software modded via some hacks (such as a boot attack, etc.) to be able to accept changes from "unauthorized" sources like a tuner. 18+ also have a "Security Module" that has to be bypassed before a tuner will work.

>>28483811
18+ also have gay shit that trips a "ecu code has been tampered" flag iirc. technically they all do but the newer models are more picky about what constitutes tampering. doesn't really matter because if you're into a tuner the warranty dooesn't matter but it may bother perfectionists, as well it throws a silent code.

this is not a mopar thread
this is a zoomer stalantis thread

>>28484350
This.
t.1996 Dodge

>>28484493
Is this you?

>>28487693
Not quite. Mine is a 2 seater coupe that's blue and has white stripes.

>>28484350
not a single car in this thread was made by stellantis
the LX body project began before the Daimler merger was even finalized.

>>28487709
is it an r/t at least?
that's pretty cool but also >fwd

>>28487770
>at least
GTS.

>>28487776
As in Viper if that wasn't obvious.

>>28487776
>>28487780
i would actually be way cooler if you had a weird dodge stratus with viper paint and stripes

I really want to redo the plastic gauge bezel in my 11 challenger with some bondo and hydro dip woodgrain to style it more like the 1970 model. Too bad I have no idea how to pull it off. I really don't like the looks of the fake carbon fiber or the stick on stuff. Next time I need tires, I'm getting some steelies painting them either argent silver or tri coat pearl red and they're gonna have fratzog dog dishes on them

>>28487825
woodgrain would be sick, i was thinking about doing something similar for my center console bezel
imo on the old interior i'd take the dash apart, get that plastic tombstone the cluster sits in, and just dip that full woodgrain. maybe the shifter surround too.

>>28487801
Ok. And now: back to new run of the mill Challengers and Chargers.

>>28487835
They can't be that much, if it's like 30$ and I go look at my account balance maybe I'll buy a spare and attempt it, my main issue is clear coating the hydrodip to protect it and keeping the chrome accents around the gauge holes protected, but that probably is just down to masking. My 1995 born self desires the woodgrain

THEY DON'T MAKE 'EM LIKE THEY USED TO

You better BELIEVE I paid up for the optional 155 hp upgraded engine in this fwd piece of SHIT.

>>28487849
>implying I don't only want a 1987 chevy celebrity because of the 1996 North Hollywood shootout I watched documentaries of and WORLDS WILDEST Police chases during my formative years on sick days on SPIKE TV .

also Dukes of Hazzard on CMT, they used to be cool but they aren't now.

>>28487825
Maybe Di-Noc?

>>28487844
>new
production ended 3 years ago anon
vipes cool but don't be a fag
ralph gilles is currently chief designer and head of design at stellantis and was personally responsible for your car even existing
dont throw v10s in in glass houses

1983 Dodge FUCKIN Charger. 73 hp in this MOPAR OR NO CAR.

>>28487872
chally 2 absolutely FUCKS

>>28487865
Hold on you may be onto something, I don't want my car looking like a Hispanic got free range of an AutoZone aisle though, maybe I could make it look like Chrysler jank.

>>28487872
HELL YEAH BROTHER

>>28487883
the originals were pure sleazecore
just make sure all the grain is going in the same direction and it will look good

1994 Chrysler Concorde. You KNOW this bad boy will leave you STRANDED.

>>28487915
unironically i see more early LH platforms than any other old mopar. those and the fucking minivans are dam near unkillable. also its one of those cars you only ever see in 2 states: showroom perfect and "how the fuck does this even run?"

>>28487919
schrodinger's lh platform

>>28487919
I almost never see any mopar older than 2005.

Look at this fucked ass pilot bearing.

>>28487849
they don't... :'(