Thread 28544931

>For Classics made from 1979 or older, with few exceptions.
>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.
>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.
>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.
>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.
>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.
>Period correct performance > cosmetics.
>Metal > plastic.
>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.
>JBweld and RTV can fix anything
>If you see rust there is more.
>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.
>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multimeter.
>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.
>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.
>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.
>No one cares about your MPG
>No one cares if you fellate feline phalluses
>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded
>Nothing is as easy as it seems

When did the jammies nuke the other thread?

>>28545348
they didn't, but i can only guess the other one is gonna be archived soon

I vote for no more cocks

>>28544931 (OP)
Fuck off gakekeeper. No one likes your thread.

>>28546377
It's full of schmekas

sage

>>28547270
no u

>>28544931 (OP)
Messaging a guy about a 77 a-body.
How bad is this? I know it's bad, but how bad exactly?

>>28548258
That cancer is in the "we're moving to Canada because they have medically assisted suicide" stage.

>>28548277
Lol. Was garaged for the first 47 years and 36k miles of its life. After one (1) year outside it's gone from showcar to project; top cracked to shit and let all the houston rains in. Guy most definitely isn't lying because the (factory) paint, (irreplacable) interior, and (non-undercoated) frame are otherwise extremely good. Fuck GM and their cheap ass trim studs.

>>28548307
...but I do wonder, if water intrusion and thus rust is damn near immediate given rain + any entry point, how are *any* of these things still around after fifty years?

>>28548307
If it's only a year of exposure as you say it is, it's probably only bad around the trim studs and the rest underneath is fine. If you are up for a minor bit of rust repair(worth it), buy it, but make sure to lowball the fuck out of him.

>>28548453
He's already lowballing himself. It's been ON craigslist for that year, on and off. Was 14k, then 12k, then 10.5k, now it's 7.5K.
I'd be willing to try honestly but I've already got a project going and repairs for my daily to do and I don't want another barn ornament urgently in need of bodywork.
Idea was for this to be my new daily anyways, sick of newer cars and just want a tall-geared carbed v8 to last me the next few decades

sucked a big one in the pontiac today

>>28548307
Thats the problem with vinyl tops.
The cancer started 40 years ago when it rained on the drive home.
The occasional rain while sitting at the grocery store was just feeding those initial stages. Being left outside for a year was just GNC Weight Gainer 5000 fuel to accelerate the fuckiness that is eating that car from the inside out.

Its not superficial.
Thats some serious degradation to the point youre going to have to strip that vinyl and replace sheetmetal.
Guaranteed.

>>28548584
>replace sheetmetal
Impossible for a colonnade. You'll never ever ever find top sheetmetal since the vast majority of these cars have the vinyl roof (and will also be rotted) and they're not popular enough to warrant repro metal

>>28548592
Well yeah, you'd have to break out the Emglish wheel or attempt some Fitzee style fab

>>28548568
>Idea was for this to be my new daily anyways
Then just ignore the damage and drive it. It won't disintegrate anytime soon and 6-7K is pocket change now that you won't even miss in a few years.

>>28548814
inblation :DD

>>28548258
>77
not a classic

>>28549774
Nah, it's a classique

>>28548584
oh man. this just makes me want to drive my own vinyl top car into the ground even more. or until someone offers me a stupid amount of cash for it.
the previous owner said that the vinyl top was redone though, so it was at least 2022 or so when it was done. but it's been sitting in my driveway for a year now and gonna be there for at least another month because i'm still waiting on shit to arrive.
mind you, in that entire time i haven't seen any cancer spread but i'm not sure if it's all just hidden underneath or if the upholsterer actually did a good job sealing it.

You guys might be overblowing the vinyl top deal. My pops has a vinyl top mustang that sat outside for 3 years in the 2000s after having been garaged, yet daily driven from the factory prior to that. Upon resto, there was nary an issue with the roof under the vinyl. Was quite surprising, honestly.

Vinyl tops came about in the beginning of the uni-body era, when they would fuck a roof+body pairing so badly that it should have gone straight to the crusher. But some asshole figured out that if you just buried the shit body work under vinyl you could still sell it. They ought to have been illegal, but they got so popular they just started putting them on everything. I'd only own one if it was gifted to me.

>>28549774
>It's the exact same as a '73
>It's nearly the same as a '68, just with a different body, HEI, and rear coil springs
>thred is '79 or older

>>28550131
Post you are vinyl top car
>>28550376
60's and 80's+ cars have better vinyl top construction than mid 70's cars
>>28550408
No, all these vinyl top vehicles had non-top versions, even vehicles such as the mark v and cordoba. They just filled the seams with lead and called it a day.

>>28550460
i never seem to have the opportunity to take a current pic of it sitting on jack stands. the waiting on the steering box to come back to me is soooo long and i'm like 90% of the way there too :(
i've at least been able to fix the window winders. they're much smoother and require significantly less effort to crank now.

>>28550457
>exact same as some other shit thats not a classic
>its not the same as a car that would be the classic
>op is a faggot

thanks for clearing that up

>>28550484
These threds have been '79 or older for as long as I can remember

>>28550855
checked
and it's all I've ever known

sage

>>28550855
>>28550867
Older than 75 was the traditional cutoff before you found 4chan.
That was when there was a paradigm shift in design across all manufacturers and countries.

It wasn't just a "we think these cars are cool but these arent" type of crowd decision.
It was a change in the induatry in how cars were designed, engineered, built and even prepped.
You went from zinc plating on body panels underneath paint for rust prevention to not even using primer and using static to adhere paint.
Design elements like having the chassis lowered onto a pre-assembled fwd engine/trans/suspension cradle unit that made maintenance a nightmare.

A Classic vehicle is something specific.
Its not just old.
It has design and engineering elements that vary greatly from "modern" cars.

>>28550986
Pretty much spot on. 50-75 was the golden age of American motoring. Beyond that is malaise era shit. Not saying that post 75 can't be cool or fast, but in its original form it was garbage compared to what came before and after.

>>28550855
It doesn't matter what collin cat cock sucker changed it to, it's not a classic

>>28551294
Moving on, in other news water is wet.

I officially endorse this thread. You're all welcome!

How bad would life by with an MGB? There's so many cheap ones near me that seem to be in good shape.

>>28544931 (OP)
went to classic car show in Illinois this weekend bros, photos incoming

>>28552953
>that red beauty in the background
HNNNNNG

>>28552967
this dude in the blue had a barely used 89 Mercury from an old lady. said there was little restoration needed and next to no rust

>>28552978
similar to the car from Goldfinger that got crushed

>>28553017
Lol.
I just realized something.
What does a Marti report look like for a beetle?

>>28553313
Beautiful.

wish i could post more than one image at a time

>>28553318
There's one of these in my area for 8k. It has an unknown amount of bondo and has trunk rust but it's tempting to try and daily such a car

Luv classics, me.

>>28553319
>Durrrr, not a classic, that's just some random 4 door!
>*chimps away*

>>28552201
Who are you

I painted my block (primer) even though I shouldn't have because I still want to give it another solvent bath before I actually start assembling it but I also didn't want it to flash rush after its first one

maybe mineral spirits wont damage the paint idk but whatever i have more primer

>>28552949
FUCK that's nice. I'll get myself one eventually,

>>28554094
Why I am the proud owner of the little bitches, Gaped Loose aka Gaped Goose aka Greased Geese and that other abominable queer, s10fag.

>>28554151
I had a pair of heads flash rust in the trunk on the drive home from the shop because a little of water spilled and the carpet was damp.
Good call with the primer.

>>28554151
Iron Duke?

>>28554750
the head for this engine was on my passenger floor for quite a while and ended up getting pretty rusty because I didnt realize I've got leaks when it rains really hard so the carpet was soaked. It went to the machine shop to get decked and bigger valves installed anyways so I wasn't too worried about it
I was also immediately vindicated when I went out to check main bearing clearances and found the inside of the engine where I forgot to spray with wd40 was indeed sporting a light coat of flash rust.
>>28554759
ford 1.6 xflow

>>28552949
Some serious boomer stereotypes going on in the background.

>>28554164
you're a samefag? makes sense that all the losers happen to be the same nigger

>>28555518
Get em!

>>28555431
what you mean the hats?

I want to buy a classic car as my first car, Specifically a Triumph. How fucked am I insurance wise if I do?

>>28555821
Get a beater shitbox buick as your "daily" and park it. Register the triumph as a classic.

I'm GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>28556602
look at that ass

>>28557376
stfu fake bitch

>>28557380
DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

>>28557390
that much is obvious Lol

>>28557394
no u!

another crashout? maybe another thread about me will help

>>28557851
there's only been the two threads

>28557851
You mean the ones you made about yourself?

>>28557866
Why wasn't there a link to this posted in the shitter thread? Some of us don't browse the catalog everyday

When looking for a classic car how do I find one that not only looks good but avoids having a shitty malaise era engine? Is there a balance period anywhere?
I love how cozy the late 70s cars look but they're dogshit for gas and speed

>>28558116
Grab a malaise and de cuck it

>>28558120
hmm thats probably what ill have to do

>>28558143
It's not exactly simple.
Unfortunately those are the years when electronics came into play. Not what you'd consider computers (they are) but enough components dependent on other components that once you start gutting shit it causes other faults. Electronic feedback carbs dont like it when they lose signal from EGRs and such. Not to mention 10 miles of vacuum lines.
You either spend years getting everything in order to run as factory or gut it all and install an earlier setup (carb, distributor etc)

>>28558668
So what are the safe years? I just want a comfy boat car, so if i have to go to early 70s/late 60s then I guess I will

>>28558116

I'd consider an engine swap. Malaise engines all suck. You could look for something with a Chevy 350 small block V8 and have it tuned.

>>28558693
for chryslers, i think 72 was when the malaise started kicking in

>>28558116
The lincoln mark 3 is what you're looking for. It started the brougham deluxe trend in '69 so it's pretty fast and is the best built mark of the post-revival bunch

>>28558793
thats a fine looking car

>>28558668
>throw holley or edelbrock on it
>basic hot cam
>exhaust and headers
>power increases +100 easily
new heads maybe if its a REALLY shitty motor, but its really not that hard to wake up a smog motor

>>28558798
Don't forget the distributor. Depending on how far along the era and what make/model you're dealing with the distributors can be funky. I hear good things about pertronix if you want an old school points-style distributor without having to mess with contacts and dwell timing but I've never personally used them.

>>28558116
>>28558793
>>28558797
Any v8 of the era has more than enough torque for everyday traffic and will absolutely do 70+ on the freeway thanks to tall gearing. If you love a malaise barge's looks but don't like the sound of only 180 horsepower try driving one. If you don't expect a racecar you'll be happy.

>>28558798
Its more than that and every vehicle is different.
The emissions vacuum lines are all tied in with the heater/AC vent controls and can be an absolute nightmare to go through.
Tach wont work and you'll have a permanent red "emissions" warning light on in the instrument cluster.
These seem minor, sure. Pull the bulb for the emissions warning, run the tach off an MSD 6AL.
But thats not a complete list. Once you tear into one you really.need to know what youre doing or you wind up with a shitbox with a butchered harness and half the shit doesn't work.

i got these very cheap headers for the camaro that i tried sandblasting with a shitty amazon blaster, that failed so i sent them to a /k/ buddy to see if he could parkerize them, apparently they werent shitty enough to be parkerized, so he just blasted them and now im painting them

i know these are for an LT1 and the plug position would interfere with the 416's i have, considering getting a vortec, the internals are a bit lighter too

What a stupid niggerfaggot

>>28558798
God damn do I miss working on cool shit. You got me salivating just thinking about doing something like this again

Upholsterer said he's ready to do my 'B seats, so I figured I'd go ahead and get them out and dropped off to him today.

>>28559654
Unfortunately, that has triggered the curse of "while you're in there", and I am now completely replacing the centre console and re-organising some of the wiring. There's a concerning number of randomly cut and unused wires back here...

>>28558747
>chryslers
I got me a Chrysler
It's as as big as a whale
And it's about to set sail!

>>28558116
This ain't a racetrack, kid. We just need to get to the grocery store and then over to Aunt Margie's house. Don't need no dang hot rod for that.

>>28559685
It's true.
Traffic is shit during all waking hours, so having a car that comfortably goes from 0 to 40 fits the environment perfectly.

I got a '78 Mark V for $1,500 total investment by the time I got it home.

https://youtu.be/cvXmkqLzFOY?si=o2Mg4lYdBkYLXH0Y

This video encapsulates it.

>>28560869
noice

>>28544931 (OP)
Soon all American car companies will belong to China.

Im quite impressed with the build quality on firebird. There are somany panels that look like they're supposed to be spot welded together but looks like the factory made no attempt to actually weld the panels together. In my efforts to repair the accident damage I've found myself spending qite alot of time welding these panels together

>>28561421
I bummed your mum

>>28561998
Year of bird?

If i buy a clasic car and use it for daily shit, will cops pull me over? I guess my question is are Historical license plates a requirement or am I able to use my old 70s beater without` any issue

>>28562130
They can get regular plates. White cops won't pull over cars with antique plates unless it's obviously just a 1998 camry you got from your aunt for free, and even still they probably won't

>>28562150
***brown cops in a majority brown department also won't, but only because they don't know the fuckin law. If there's a random panic over old cars being dangerous for not being zogged (tm) you can bet your ass every spic and jeet cop will be on your tail

>>28562157
>If there's a random panic over old cars being dangerous for not being zogged
fuck, thats the main reason why i want to use a classic as my daily in the 1st place. hate the fucking faggy tv monitors and constant gps bs in new cars. plus they're just hideous to look at

Carb rebuilt. Lifter tick identified to be slightly bent push rod. Otherwise we are in great shape. Drove her 30 miles, good shes just running a little rich

>>28562130
No. I've got a 56 year old plate on my beater truck and haven't been pulled over.

>>28562199
You planning on keeping her?

>>28562130
I haven't had a valid plate on most of mine in decades. Cops almost never hassle me, but I'm white.

>>28562162
150/157 poster again, admittedly at that point its civil war so it'll probably be illegal to be a white male without a brainchip so all bets are off, just buy a malaisebarge anon

>>28562078
68

Is this a respectable magnet hoard? Finally consolidated them into one place.

>>28562665
Forgot the picture lol

>>28559310
KWAB

>>28562670
just needs allyn's rover

>>28562828
is that a hitchhikers guide reference

>>28562253
Of course! Will change as little as possible to keep it safe drive-able and original. This is my fiance’s car, passed down. She is generation #4 and wants to keep it. I’m just happy i was able to make it drive again in time for our wedding, the look on her face sitting next to me was more than worth it.

>>28563182
Fuck yeah. I love these old Fords and glad someone will be reppin' a Y-block on here.

>>28563085
i dunno. but what i do know is that magnet is very real. and i need rockauto to pretty please give me one instead of four of the same goddamn magnet in the four boxes that make up one order

>>28563433
I've got it on my fridge.

>>28563433
but you need to see the dollfuckers galaxy for the 10th time

after a couple trips on the highway, the squarebody was pissing oil everywhere, so it's getting the rear main seal and oil pan gasket replaced. just waiting for the RTV on the seal to set so i can torque the bearing cap.

>>28563666
what a piece of shit, you should LS swap it

>>28563666
all buttoned up. the fel-pro gaskets sets are the best.

Do they make those nice leather grille covers for these old box chevy's?
I'm tired of waiting 15minutes for her to warm up in winter.
I know I could just make some cardboard covers, but if they make those nice leather zipup/button up covers I'd buy them.

>>28564143
just fab something up for behind the grill so it still looks stock

>>28564150
Yeah fair enough. Black cardboard and all that.

You guys have any other tips for winter runnings? Beyond block heaters I mean. Any unique hood insulation or electric quadrajet choke settings?

should I attempt a head liner or just bring it to the mexican upholstery shop

>>28564155
where do you live? if you don't want to reveal that, is it canada cold?

>>28564163
I live (basically) in Airdre Alberta.
She got me through last year, even started during the deep -35C days.
I've got a block heater and battery blanket, but just want to improve the engine's comfort level in general.

Need's a coolant flush too (which I'll be taking it to a shop for because I can't poor coolant all over the driveway).
So if you guys have any coolant advice let me know.

>>28564168
damn you're near me, fellow alberta bro. good on you for rockin that beast in the cold. only other thing i might change seasonally is the thermostat. use The Right Stuff so your housing never leaks

How do you guys narrow down your car collecting?

I'm debating downsizing and not 100% sure what to keep, but want to have no more than 7.

>>28564168
It's funny how a full size caprice from the 80s looks borderline compact beside the bloatbeasts of today.

>>28564174
Speaking of, I do not understand how people drive modern cars with how thick their pillars are.
I feel blind in my brother's Mazda 3.
You seriously cannot see shit in these new cars

>>28564170
i should say that since our temps are so extreme, run a 195 in the winter and switch to 180 or 160 in the summer. not that much work. i bet if you got fast you could do it in 20 mins, not counting the RTV setting

>>28564170
>fellow alberta bro
BEEERRRTTTAAA BROTHERRRRRR
>only other thing i might change seasonally is the thermostat
My neighbor said that too. I might as well if I'm doing a coolant flush anyways.
More RockAuto stiggers for me.

I'm thinking these vehicles, apart from trucks/parts cars:

1966 Imperial
Pierce-Arrow
Rolls-Royce
300CD or OM617-swapped 220SE
1995 Cadillac Eldorado
Lincoln Mark V
????

>>28564174
>>28564176
This is true. I tried driving my parent's Hyundai after riding bikes all summer and driving the Parisienne in the winter, felt like driving a 350z (insult)
>>28564177
Noted
Thermostats are pretty cheap so maybe I'll experiment.
I've heard some bad things about these "fail-safe" thermostats that open permanently at a certain temp. Is it better to just go with the standard ones?

>>28563536
goddamn showboater

>>28564189
>1995 Cadillac Eldorado
Obviously all the others are cool, but those look cool irl. Especially with a nice exhaust.
Pictures on the internet really don't do them justice.

>>28564189
you're not actually famous. we don't know what cars you own.

>>28564201
I got it from a friend, under 60k miles, minor front end damage, but a triple-black car. It'll make a nice "modern" car for minor upgrades.

>>28564202
Ergo my list of cars. I don't own all of the ones on the list yet and own a few that aren't there.

>>28564210
>Ergo my list of cars. I don't own all of the ones on the list yet and own a few that aren't there.
drac... i know you're autistic but this is full on retarded.

>>28564212
I don't get it. At present, I own 14 vehicles and I want to downsize to a manageable amount so I can focus on having a few very nice cars instead of a fleet of shitboxes.

>>28564218
ok so you're going to have to list the 14 vehicles if you want people to tell which ones to sell

>>28564223
>1950 Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith Limousine
>1966 Imperial LeBaron
>1977 Jaguar XJS 350 swap
>1977 Mercedes 450 SEL 6.9
>1978 Lincoln Mark V DJE
>1978 Mercedes 300SD
>1978 Mercedes 300SD
>1981 DeLorean
>1984 Chevy C10
>1994 Lincoln Town Car Hearse
>1995 Cadillac Eldorado
>1995 Cadillac Fleetwood Hearse
>1999 Cadillac DeVille Hearse
>2009 Lincoln Town Car LWB

I'm contemplating selling the DeLorean because I don't care about movies and it'd buy a nice Pierce-Arrow.

I'd also likely sell the Mark V and get a better example, possibly doing the same with the Rolls-Royce.

>>28564176
going back and forth between my 89 cressida to dad's 2018 camry, goddamn i missed the visibility. can't wait to get the fury running because even though it's a foot longer than the camry, it's still easier to see out of

>>28564229
>I'd also likely sell the Mark V and get a better example
careful, people might accuse you of having "failed projects" if you get rid of a field full of cars you've looked at once, or just get better examples of a car they made millions of

>>28564229
I say sell them all and
>buy a nice Pierce-Arrow

>>28564604
>get better examples
Problem is many of these cars are essentially non-restorable without finding the improbable parts car with a perfect interior. You'll be spending more than the car is worth getting shit re-upholstered alone and it still won't ever look right. Finding perfect external trim is an endeavor which takes years and only gets harder as time goes on. Eventually I believe there will be a repro aftermarket for these less-loved cars thanks to nu-car bullshit and improvements in mfg tech but until then you're SOL

>>28544931 (OP)
>need to be able to do 90% or more of the work
If I had a nickel for every car I looked at where the owner had spend tens of thousands on it and it still wasn't up to scratch I'd have... thirty cents? But it's odd how many people don't know how to work on these things and yet continue to dump money into... a 1983 toronado? Really? Of all the cars?
The cars are never tuned right in there situations either; tires are wrong size or overinflated, ac is jank, brake booster isn't adjusted right, steering wheel is off center, etc.

>>28564229
sell the C10 and all the mercedes and cadillacs

>>28564769
The previous owner of my 61 Lincoln bought it non-running. He paid a shop the install a 4bbl intake and a Holley. (retarded, I would've just rebuilt the stock carb but alas)
While I was test driving it, the wheel almost fell off because he hadn't torqued the lugs.

>>28564604
Most of my cars were either scrapyard rescues or vehicles that were going to be parted out. It's also not a "failed project" if the car gets parted out. Some times a car is just too far gone to fix.

The Mark V was going to be scrapped due to a bad carb adjustment and worn interior. It's an OK car for a beater and a solid donor, but restoring a Diamond Jubilee Edition is a fool's errand.

>>28564754
I like this idea, but I'd also like to keep a few others around for daily drivers and highway cars since I want a 6-cylinder Pierce.

>>28564762
This is why the Diamond Jubilee is worthless to restore, but an excellent donor with low-mile 460, 9" disc rear, sunroof, digital "Miles to Empty" gauge, and other bits.

>>28564829
I'll likely use the hearses as storage sheds for bumpers and spare parts. You can get a hearse for less than a shed.

>>28564769
>never tuned right
A 350c.i. engine pulls about 400cfm @ 5k RPMs.
You can get a 650 double pumper holley for $250 from autozone but try to order a 485cfm with vac secondaries and its $850.

HAHAHAHAHA

man, it took a while, but i think i found the perfect hazard light switch to retrofit into my dodge. it's from a 68 vw beetle, can still be got off rockauto. i could use a 4pst switch but this one just looks really neat. will have to hook up the reverse light switch wire to the +/49 terminal so that when the hazards are turned on, reverse doesn't override the rear blinkers since in aus cars back then used the tail blinkers as reverse lights too.
also gotta get a momentary switch to to hook up to the high beams to quickly flash them whenever needed. seems like I can just hook up a constant 12v feed to one terminal of the switch, then the other wire goes straight to the high beam terminal on the existing foot switch.

>>28563847
jesus christ. i cleaned up all the carbonized oil in the bottom of the pan - and turns out that it was sealing a crack. oil was just pouring out after my test drive today.
you can actually see it just below the drain plug
fuck me

>>28565090
is it that line near the plug, closer to the camera? if so damn lol. jb weld? assuming replacements aren'r available

>>28565483
drew an arrow to it.
it's a SBC, replacements are readily available.
i went to the local PnP and had a pan unbolted before i realized the dipstick was on the wrong side, GUH
I thought about JBWeld, but if it flakes off or something while i'm in the bush i'm fucked.
could potentially MIG weld it, but it goes right under the drain bung
i'll find another OEM one.

>>28564855
>>28564769
yeah, i loved that audi B2 i picked up for $250. I was never going to pay $5000 for another corpse to get a rear window structure though. anything the rest i owned was on marketplace for 6+ months before i bought it, no tears shed to take what i wanted off it and send it to jesus if it wasnt a flip

See you there

>>28564857
Fuck that. Demon 800

>>28565737
No you won't :(

Have any anons ever found anything cool in your cars? Found an old campaign poster behind the door panel in 47 plymouth

>>28565873
The most surprising thing was how the price of an AC compressor is roughly the same
Anyways, I've never seen anything more representative of the year "1980" in my entire life than this pamphlet

>>28565874
that's why compressor rebuilds were common back in the day. My repair manual has a section dedicated to it

Ford at it again with the wheels falling off huh

>>28567682
Not classic. Fuck off.

>>28567711
At this point it's a classic meme

I quit posting about the A/C saga on my Newport because it was just getting fucking ridiculous, but I finally got it sorted. Spent probably 10 hours collectively swapping seals, trying different installation methods, etc. Carbon seals are so damn finicky. Went through two reproduction santech seals that were crap and didn't work.
I finally ended up making one good seal from two old seals. Took the good rubber piece from my original compressor, and the good carbon piece from the compressor my buddy gave me. Soaked them in oil for two days. Meticulously cleaned the sealing surfaces of the carbon and installed the front cover, turning the bolts 1/2 turn at a time so it seated perfectly flat. Held vacuum and pressure immediately. Charged it with propane. Blowing icy cold now. Probably not even going to bother ordering the Frosty Cool 12a honestly, it's working really well and I don't feel like discharging it and risking losing the seal again. Probably won't happen, but still.
I was just about ready to say fuck it and convert to a sanden compressor, but I really didn't feel like spending $700+ for that. If this seal fucks up, I feel confident that an NOS seal from eBay will work. Even if they are $80, it's better than converting.
I was basically battling Chinese manufacturing standards on a very low tolerance finicky part. A tale as old as time.

>>28568975
nice. my concern with straight propane is the higher pressure it has, it's fairly higher than r12 and r134a. might shorten compressor life, or the life of another component in the system that'll then require you to take everything apart all over again.

>>28569016
Yes...I was thinking about this. However, it's not running crazy high. High side is about 195 at 90 degrees ambient temperature. R134 will run into the 230s sometimes. So I think it will be fine for now, but you are correct. If it continues working well, I probably will order the Frosty Cool. It is supposed to run lower pressures than R12 and r134.
The low side is doing something weird I've never seen before. It's running at about 45-50 psi at idle then drops to 25-30 when it's revved up. Still blows cold at idle but it blows colder when revved up. Is this because of the propane or because of the EPR valve? It has that valve in addition to the TXV to keep the evaporator from freezing up, because it does not have a clutch cycling switch. Not exactly sure how it works, but I know other manufacturers had similar valves for that reason. I've never worked on an old system like this before, so I don't know what is normal.

>>28569029
i think that's normal, honestly if it works i say leave it. if you filled the system with the correct amount of charge weight then it's good to go

>>28569067
I charged it by pressure so I don't know exactly how much it has in it, but I did it a little at a time, monitoring the vent temperature and pressure until it started blowing cold. It started blowing cold right about the time the pressures looked good, so I'm pretty confident I got it right.

>>28569077
yeah should be ok then. preferred way to charge is by weight but pressure also works too.
i'll have to look at my toyota air conditioning manual but i'm pretty sure it's normal for the low side to drop pressure and high side to gain pressure when the engine is revved

Anyone know what wagon this is?

>>28570790
whoops

>>28570790
Literally says De Soto

>>28572323
Definitely not a DeSoto.

>>28570792
>>28572323
>>28572338
1955 Ford De Luxe Ranch Wagon

>>28572323
based blind retard

Lord give me the courage for what I'm about to do.
I have no idea what I'm doing btw

>>28572724
351 Cleveland
4v open heads, stud mount rocker arm conversion
Complete bottom end "rebuilt and never run" the seller assures me
Mooneyham 6-71
Hampton manifold
Two Holley 650s
Box full of linkages and front drive and Gilmer pulleys
Dude wants $5k and I'm hard pressed to think why not

Live show for anyone not in commiefornia
https://www.pebblebeachconcours.net/events/2025-pebble-beach-concours-live/

https://youtu.be/gAwC2vAoSOo

>>28572729
>to think why not
Because it needs a purpose.
Buying a built engine just to have it sit in your garage instead of someone else's while you look for the perfect chassis to drop it into is a recipe for disaster.
If you have a car thats ready for an engine now, great.
If you just want it because its a great deal and youre stockpiling parts for another project you're about to start, great.
If it seems cool and youll start thinking about what type of car it would work in and need to do research on twin screws to get a better understanding of the wngine then you've already lost and its not for you.

>>28572415
>>28570792
>>28572323

It's not a Ford or DeSoto. It does have a Ford a/c unit in it, though, which is what I want out of it.

/marketplace/item/1515777169409059

>>28572729
>Dude wants $5k and I'm hard pressed to think why not
Because he painted it red like a fag.

>>28572956
Those are '55 Ford tail lights.

>>28572956
>>28572995
It very much IS a Ford. It's a 1957-1959 Ford Taunus Kombi De Luxe; a European wagon, with USDM 1955 Ford lenses

>>28569029
The impurities in regular propane are likely causing the increased head pressures as the impurities have a much higher condensation pressure. If you charged it with refrigerant propane you'd probably bring down the high side pressure by damn near 20psi

This year's lineup
https://youtu.be/BuemXiGBk8g

speaking of cars with crank hatch windows, which car is this?

>>28573275
I've grown tired of the 300SL and Shelby Cobra. Every time I see one, I sleep. They are interesting at a low level show but are too high volume for Pebble Beach.

>>28573275
MY WIFE
MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE IS BACK

The car that made me give a shit about classic cars.

>>28560869
Fuck yes. Congrats! God, I want to get my old 1980 Lebaron running again for this feeling. They'll drive out in the field too. Plenty of ground clearance in the old girls. 19 fucking years ago I took this picture as a young scrawny nerd. Been sitting under the carport at the family farm for the last decade. Paint is still in amazing shape but rodents have gotten under the hood.

>>28573023
>>28572995
>>28573027
Oh fugg, now I think I might be buying the whole thing knowing that.

>>28573281
1962 ford fairlane wagon

>>28573405
thanks anon. looks like a nice car

>>28573407
Indeed. Old man was cleaning out the back so he could bed his missus.

>>28573412
These were a collection of 16mm home movies i got from an estate sale, the bald guy on the left was still alive but i didnt get to meet him, he died about 6 months later. seemed like a happy family

but lots of cool old cars/trains/boats from 1930s-60s on these reels. I just need to save money to get them digitzied

>>28573420
old cars

>>28573420
I got a bunch of similar stuff from the previous professor at my job but it's all natural disasters for teaching geology. So you have all these 50's/60's/70's vehicles in front of rockslides and volcanic eruptions and shit. It's wild. I need to get it digitized, bad.

>upholstery on the bonnet
But why?

>>28573420
Did you go on /n/ last year or 2 and ask about some train 16mm?

>Invicta
Nice proportions on these things.

Honestly these gals are cheaper than I thought
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles/sf25_r049/1931-invicta-s-type-4-litre-low-chassis-fixed-head-coupe-sea-bear

>>28573605
>$1000 000 restoration
Oops.

>>28573611
preservation class it is

>At the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance, the "Antique" class includes cars manufactured up to 1915, while the "Vintage" class encompasses cars from 1916 to 1924. "American Classic" and "European Classic" classes are defined by specific marques and model years, generally spanning from the early to mid-20th century

So a separate vintage thread would be required

Liking the Ruxton

>>28573633
your mom is a vintage thread

Is this even legal to drive around with in California? Since it came with the car?

>all the way from Bahrain.....in the UAE
The announcer is getting fired and possibly killed.

>>28572937
I have a chassis. Already set up for a 351C but the motor is worn out.
Yes I am going to need to do a ton of supporting mods. Worth it. Talking to the seller it's extremely likely this is forged stroker bottom end.
>>28572959
Blue spray paint is $8 a can at the local parts store

So many rich Brits in Hong Kong

I do not care for the Porsche 356

>single owner cars from 1916
If you don't have this, your family sucks

>Locomobile
What a name.

>>28573671
Make sure he pulls the pan and intake.

Ford CEO Jim Farley owns a Lincoln V12 but refuses to commission a Lincoln V12

TULIPWOOD DOMINATION

Win you beautiful garish bitch.

>fabric body
Any info on this thing? I think its going to scoop the mahogany Hispano Suiza.

What car would an anon need to own to even attempt to impress any of those Pebble Beach chicks?

>>28573807
If you want just the car to impress them, any prewar classic with a seven-figure price tag.

At this point, I'm ready to trade my DeLorean for a Pierce-Arrow.

SHE GOT IT
SHE GOT IT BROS

>>28573824
I believe those headlights contain uranium, too, to give them that yellow.

>>28573820
You trading the wife in too?

>>28573829
Nah. She's 10 years younger than me and has a penchant for buying hearses. She's bought two so far on her own. Her last one is a basket case, though.

>>28573820
Which war?

>>28573838
The one the good guys lost.

>>28573838
war on drugs, you stupid fucking stoner

>>28573549
lmao that was me, I got these reels in summer 2023. cant beleive its been 2 years already

ironically i got permabanned shorly after making that thread so I wasnt able to upload more pics.

>>28573840
when was that

>>28573885
>>28573893
Travel back in the day was so cool. It's all fucking gay now.

>>28573769
Except for Edsel, and to a small extent HFII, Ford has never given a damn about Lincoln, so why would they start now?

https://www.copart.com/lot/66864865/salvage-1972-american-motors-javelin-va-danville

there's an amx javelin in my local copart yard

>>28573947
I actually have a break-down shotgun that was marketed as easily transported on trains for 1 day hunting trips (pre-WWI)
I have a digital copy of the Remington advertisement somewhere.

I would say that we'll never get back to those days but we're getting closer and closer to a global reset so maybe our grandchildren will get it

>>28573947
its comfy man, I was at a train musuem in IL last week. you could ride some of the cars, and walk into the permanently docked ones. I get that 90% of travels didnt get the nicer amenities but looks pretty nice for an era when the train was the only way to get around

>>28574119
If parts were available it looks like it'd be salvageable. Shame, it'll be a great parts car

Pulled the speakers out of the 'B, only to find out that one of the previous owners has cut the fucking quarter panel to make them fit... why the fuck would anyone do this...? Just get a narrower speaker, or put them lower down! Fucking clowns that live on this planet beggar belief.

>>28574824
That's factory.

>>28574828
Christ, I really wish it was... I could just say "lol BL go brrrr" and think nothing more.

>>28574824
On the bright side it looks.like the dipshit just cut it and bent it in. Thats an easy fix.

>>28574824
My dad did this to the doors on his bronco, i was completely lost for words. Boomers will destroy anything to get what they want

>>28573671
>a chassis. Already set up for a 351C
Then go for it.
Sucks not knowing for sure what the internals are but even srock clevelands are pretty robust.

>>28574879
And take the shortest, easiest path while doing it.

>>28573831
>/o/ wife
Jealous of you anon

>>28574877
Very true, though it means I need to relocate my new speakers, which also means I need a new pair of trim panels to hide the gaping maw behind my seats. I also have no doubts that the new trim panels will also be far fresher in colour than the tired original panels they'll be sitting up against, so they'll stand out like a sore thumb... I really feel like I've opened a can of worms, here.

>>28574879
>>28574892
Their wiring is always my favourite, pic rel. I don't know what it is with Boomers and wires, but they just really don't give a flying fuck about it, despite it having the potential to burn the car down.

>>28574948
It's not all sunshine and roses. She doesn't work, so I support us both with flipping cars and paid inspections of vehicles as well as repair work.

I do all the budgeting and buy whatever I want because of it while she cleans and learns to cook. We don't have a lot of spare money, but we get by.

>>28574974
What the hell are those upper hoses made out of? Brass? Or are they clear plastic and just smeared with rusty shit from the inside?

what is a good body to use on a tbucket chassis?
I don't like pickup cabs, I was hoping to find some sort of direlect coupe body to use

>>28574974
goddamn son. vampire splices, unfused wiring. at least use those corrugated loom tubes ffs, they're not even that hard to install/use.
no fucking wonder boomers tell you to keep a fire extinguisher in the car...unless it's a late 60s mopar's bulkhead connector, it's not the factory wiring that'll roast the car, it's their electrical laziness and incompetence

>>28575095
The English love their coppers

I CAME(in a cat)

>>28573138
I don't doubt you one bit. Been running it for about a week now. 95 degrees and under it's working good, but over that it's struggling to blow cold, just cool. It probably does not have enough refrigerant in it, because I charged it by pressure and I don't want to run the pressures higher.
It's been holding good so far. I'll probably order the Frosty Cool and charge it with the correct amount. That stuff isn't that expensive anyway.

I rescued an old Holden Torana LC (SL 2-door, but just the 4 cylinder model, not the 6) that was rusting in a field.
I have never seen so many wasp nests in my life. reckon I removed about 5kg of wasp nests. At least now things can move a bit thanks to no longer being glued together with mud and dead wasps.

>>28575533
Charging by pressure technique is fine.
You just have to match to ambient air temp.

>>28575021
No more it job?

I was at Lowe's And I noticed they have nylon tubing at $2.50 a foot, which is way cheaper than nylon fuel line. This stuff is for liquid fertilizer, but there's no sae rating for nylon tubing like there is for rubber hoses. anyone test this?

>>28575095
Copper, I believe. Or they're two clay shit pipes; take your pick.

>unfused wiring
The irony is that there's a couple aftermarket fuse blocks attached to the bulkhead, so someone cared at *some* point.

>>28575095
Copper, I believe. Or they're two clay shit pipes; take your pick.

>>28575251
>unfused wiring
The irony is that there's a couple aftermarket fuse blocks attached to the bulkhead, so someone cared at *some* point.

>>28575948
Yes, but there's not an equivelancy chart for dirty propane vs R12. So I don't know exactly what the pressures for this refrigerant should be. I could try just putting a little more in and seeing what happens though.

>>28576013
Nope. Lost it 3 years back due to nepotism. They had a nephew who was "good with computers" because he was a gamer. They let me go for him, then he couldn't perform, so they reassigned to him to the warehouse before he quit to work in the oil filed, then they hired a web designer/marketing guy for 3x my salary and a remote management firm for their server...

I could go into detail on why they made every wrong choice, but this isn't my blog. It's for classic cars.

>>28576321
Management making every wrong choice is great for 1099's. Except for the part where all of my contracts were healthcare related and they all received massive budget cuts. Im testing the waters in countries they don't like Indians

local speed shop had a used oil pan for my truck, it was even sandblasted and everything.
threw some paint on it, ran the truck for a couple mins, no leaks

>>28574974
i saw a single wire-nut on a 600 dollar car I bought one time and said outloud "this fucking stupid nigger" after I found it a month later.
I would have strangled this guy.
what the fuck do you have in a flathead car that needs a fucking relay wha the fuck.

>>28576787
ball cooler fan

>>28576787
>what the fuck do you have in a flathead car that needs a fucking relay wha the fuck.
Indicator relay, maybe? The original car had semaphores, so if someone converted to normal flashing indicators, they'd have to put a relay in.

Spotted this beaut this month.

puttin in some work

Do bad body mount bushings make a difference if I need to measure my driveshaft?

>>28573284
Me with Mustang GT homages using Slant Six Mustangs as the donor body

>>28578325
motor dont bolt to the body

>>28578339
>Slant Six Mustangs

I hope everyone in these threads dies

>>28578470
We all die. Not all of us truly live.

What's the easiest way to pump some fluid from an auto trans through the dipstick tube?

>>28578470
>I hope this thing that is inevitable happens, and Im trying to be edgy about it

>>28578470
My wife's new toy

>>28578595
are you going to put a coffin in the back and a halloween decoration arm sticking out the window like the rest of the faggots

These cars are really gay and retarded. Never mind driving them, just owning something like this is pussy repellant.

Engine is finally going into the Ztards Camaro this weekend. Supposedly someone else has put an NV3500 into a third gen and claims it bolts up to the mount and doesn't need a driveshaft. im welcome to the 350 that's spun a rod or whatever. I ripped the interior out and fixed the tilt column so I could move it and that's all I've touched my car so far. Mustang got cut up, bought a new welder and zipped the patches in, painted it, its about to be sitting on its wheels again. Shifter is out and clutch pedal is in. I refrained from tubing it or getting the MM K member, I did toss the manifolds and V6 exhaust for a full kit with long tubes. It feels like its close to just going together in a few weeks andat the same time like one thing could jump out and tie me up for months again

>>28578599
No. I use them to haul car parts like bumpers and fenders as well as furniture and groceries from Sam's Club. That one has a great LT1 with only 28k.

>>28578600
I've literally fucked in over a dozen classics.

>>28578630
the children you abduct do not count

>>28578645
https://youtu.be/oSyIuZkQLZw?si=dc9_if0DPGtaHN9f

>>28578654
stale faggot

>>28578546
Oil extractor, i use it at work all the time. Get yourself a mighty vac one and you'll do fine

>>28578654
Is this what you look like?

>>28578600
>pussy repellant
Collin finds plenty of cats to suck off, so that's obviously false.

>>28579896
I've already forgotten which namefag fucks dolls, elaborate who the fuck colon is and why you care so much about their degeneracy

>>28578595
>Parents had the non-hearse version of this until they ran it to 250,000 miles.

Good cars. I also feel the same way about the mid-90's Roadmaster that we had the regular version of and not the woody station wagon. Still have a 1997 Deville too. FWD unfortunately and in dire need of CV axel replacement.

Semi-elated-wise, almost finished installing the new 3-point seatbelts in my 1973 Stingray.

Pro: Car came with all the appropriate bolts and trim except the rear seat cut through.

Con: Retrobelts fuckers don't have any of their holes sized right and I have to use a pyramid bit to open things up to the correct GM standard bolt size. Paid $330 dollars for this shit. They don't even differentiate left from right despite calling it a full kit.

Totally drilling and bolting in a later Camero seat-belt guide. I want to be able to remove the thing easily when I need to access the back or the battery. Putting a belt through the seat itself is full retard.

>>28579898
>I've already forgotten which namefag fucks dolls,
Should be all of them. An $800 piece of virgin ass from the factory is so much cheaper than a girlfriend, even with all the sexy lingerie.

>>28580468
>an $800 piece of rubber
FTFY you weird fuck

Lend me your ki anons, looking at a house with a huge garage:15 foot ceilings and built in shelving/peg board and storage room for special tools. Room for 6 cars outside the garage. I need this.

>>28580468
lol virgins

>>28581410
I put my penis in your daughter's vagina

NEW BREAD

>>28582129
>>28582129
>>28582129
>>28582129
>>28582129