Thread 28698671

Stock car edition

>For Classics made from 1979 or older, with few exceptions.
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>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.
>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.
>Period correct performance > cosmetics.
>Metal > plastic.
>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.
>JBweld and RTV can fix anything
>If you see rust there is more.
>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.
>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multimeter.
>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.
>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.
>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.
>No one cares about your MonkeyBoner
>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded
>Nothing is as easy as it seems

Previous thread: >>28664082

Is this structural rust I should be concerned with or just some fucked up paint in the trunk?

There's nothing that looks even remotely like rust visible anywhere else on the car in other pics. Just this area in these shots of the trunk.

>>28698839
Closeup of the fuel filler area.

>>28698839
Thats cancer on the shock mount and needs to be addressed.
>>28698870
The crack is structural and needs to be repaired.

>>28698839
>>28698870
that's probably not even rust that's just the cruddy fucking sound deadener they put in fords at the time.
considering there's no water marks on the paint and the drip rails aren't rotten there's no fucking way it's rusted.

>>28698961
they all just look like ass, dont question it

what ballast resistor do you use with a 1.5 flamethrower coil?

>>28699067
I think you can use the stock ballast resistor. I bypassed mine with the conversion to electronic ignition

>>28699130
I think that section of my harness was deleted in the fire.
I killed one flamethrower coil within a month so I just asumed i dont have one.

>>28698839
You're going to have to go look at it, crawl around, and do some investigating to really tell.

>>28699180
rear shocks aren't really a normal rust place for these cars unless it sat with fucking leaves and rain in it for years

>>28698961
>>28698980
>>28699180
>>28699202
Is it just that tar shit they put over the welds? And the crack is just in the paint that got sprayed over it?

I can't go inspect it in person.

There are a whole bunch of pictures of the undercarriage from a previous listing and there is no visible rust at all anywhere else underneath the car or on the body. These were just the most concerning looking areas.

>>28699219
that is probably what I would consider a rust-less car, the only other two places I would be concerned with is the shock towers and the hood hinge boots, the hood hinge boots probably rust the fastest from being parked in the rain.
also the torque boxes being bent.
they can be a little bit bent and be fine but like mangled is another thing.

>>28699219
seam sealer is the goop in >>28698870 and >>28698980

>>28699227
>>28699239
Hood hinges look ok?
I'm leaning away from this one anyway because it's overpriced and has "prior owner" fuckery.

There's another one locally with the wrong engine and the wrong front seats, but is otherwise cleaner in every way. I should be able to pick it up for $2000-5000 less so that gets me a head start on doing a engine+transmission swap and looking for some bucket seats to get upholstered.

>>28699275
>cleaner in every way. I should be able to pick it up for $2000-5000 less
2-5k would go a long way on a warmed over 5.0/T5. and black friday is coming up

>>28699320
I submitted a $3k offer to the seller and got a message that a higher offer had already been submitted, so I fomo'd and bought it for $4.5k.

So that's at least $3k less than the other one would have run me, without shipping. I'm going to pick it up on Monday or Tuesday. Wish me luck.

I'll probably be blogposting about it itt because I'm going to need some spoonfeeding. I'm no wrenchlet and I've done almost every sort of repair short of fully rebuilding an engine (at least not since I was 12 with my dad) but I've never actually made any significant modifications to a vehicle - just keeping them stock and fixing things. Stuff I know I'll need to do

>Tires
>Procure v8 + transmission
>Procure all the parts needed to get the engine installed with all the other bullshit needed to make it functional - brackets and such for power steering pump, a/c compressor, etc. I want to keep everything maximally functional since I plan to "daily" it (I really only drive 2-3 days a week because wfh)
>Cut a hole in the floor for the shifter
>Probably put a stronger rear end it in

In the long run I'll probably get it repainted and re-upholstered but that's low on the list. Mechanicals first.

>>28699345
Damn, dude, rock n' roll. I figured you would go back and forth for a while, but you jumped in. I'm cool with blogposting.

>junkyard roller 5.0 with complete accessory drive
>T5+ bellhousing and flywheel and clutch
>pedal assembly

useful books. I like having a factory service manual for everything I own. The diff book is just if you want to swap gears or rebuild the rear. The 8.8 can handle anything the 302/5.0 can throw at it. The T5 will break before that.
>Ford Differentials: How To Rebuild The 8.8 And 9 Inch
>factory service manual
>ebay.com/itm/304189278361

Dang, now I'm all excited.

>>28699345
Oh, and ErictheCarGuy has a build series on his Fairmont.
>108 videos
Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSzhQ6St-ov2nxWVKCeU14Vt7JJ_QSZvs

>>28699361
>Dang, now I'm all excited.
Only because there will be two Geeses now, Greased.

>>28699366
>two greased geese
That's not me. just an anon. I'm a MOPAR doofus.

>>28699361
>>28699365
>rock n' roll
I got a solid bonus this quarter and I'm going to put it to work countering my wagie burnout.
>junkyard roller 5.0 with complete accessory drive
Any particular models I should be looking to poach from or does it even matter? If I'm going the junkyard engine route, I figure I'll just get in the car exactly the way I want it from the get go. Time to look for a cheap engine stand.

Will definitely be buying service manuals. They've always been a lifesaver for every car and motorcycle I've owned.
>build series
Kick ass. Now I have something to watch to start putting down some notes.

Any particular web vendors I should bookmark as go-tos when I start looking for other parts? Most of my projects to date have been bikes. I've used RockAuto for OEM replacements and I know Summit Racing is boomer wonderland. I'll start reading around for where Fox-body Mustang guys shop.

>>28699387
Doesn't really matter. There's a couple years of foxbody mustang that came with forged internals if that matters, but any year roller is fine. If you're keeping EFI, I think the explorer intakes had better flow. Someone will correct me. If you're keeping the iron heads, GT40 and GT40P heads flow the best. You can look up how to identify those and if you want the P ones. I think the spark plug angle makes changing spark plugs suck on some cars with the Ps.
I like Summit, Jegs, and Speedway motors. CJ Pony parts does mustang stuff. Speedmaster makes cheap aluminum heads, and smallblock MOPAR guys say they're good to go. You'll have to check the forums to see if their smallblock Ford castings are as well.
There are tons of recipes for the small block Ford that you can find around. Also, BigTime on youtube just started building a foxbody. It's worth watching, but it doesn't get too technical.

>that pic
Looks super clean. Hopefully it's not hiding anything.

>>28699401
Thanks, very useful as a research starting point on some things.
>Hopefully it's not hiding anything.
Yeah. It supposedly has ~24k original miles and the VIN report appears to validate that but who knows. The interior makes it believable.

>>28699475
good Lord, it's beautiful.

>>28699477
I really like the 2dr sedan body the guy in that youtube series started with, but I suspect those are pretty hard to come by unmolested now. All 3-box design 4dr sedans have a charm of their own.

I honestly didn't expect to pick up a car so quick but I'm looking forward to it. First step is to get it home and do the usual. I'll get it going as a grocery getter while I work on getting the details down. Plenty of reading and watching to do. Plan will be to stay really mild though - I'll have plenty of fun at 250hp let alone anything more.

is there some sort of stamped steel bendable bracket that can be used to hang a single din radio under the dash? all i can seem to find are actual enclosures

>>28699219
That car has been stripped and painted.
This area I've highlighted is pitted from rust. This should be perfectly smooth.

>>28699401
The explorer intake was the standard junkyard build to get better flow bitd but now theres 50 different intakes on the market to suit your needs. Its still a good option if it comes with the donor, I wouldnt seek one out afterwards though.

87-93 Fox body mustang ECU (A9L for manual, A9P for automatic) is the prefered brain to run. If you slap a twEECer or Moates Quarterhorse piggy back programmable ECU on it then it doesnt matter as you can run any profile on a compatible unit.

I wouldnt worry about forged internals- if you find a mustang in a junkyard its there for a reason. Youre more likely to get a good donor out of an F150 or explorer.

>>28699951
guarantee thats not pitting you complete schizo

>>28699951
Looks like undercoat guy

>>28699387
>>28699275
if you are going to muck with the car, why do you give a shit that its a virgin? you people come here with the same retarded ideas every time.

if you are starting with a 200ci car, you will need '83 F100 3.8 motor mounts, or a 5.0 K member to accommodate the 5.0. explorer accessories will clear the radiator, the cam in the explorer motor sucks and you will want to change it, literally the truck cam is better. truck accessories will not clear the radiator. 81+ 200's use a almost-sbf bell pattern, the top two bolts will not fit, you can use it anyways. Earlier 200's use a 5/6 bolt pattern and you will need to swap the bellhousing. any car pan will work and you can get them on rockauto. mustang manifolds are already shorties and you can pick up half the exhaust on ebay, dont bother with the long tubes still available, they suck. there are chinese dual planes on ebay for ~$150 and a good HEI will cost you about the same. I got my setup for $200 after waiting a while for a deal.

to be honest these cars are expensive as shit now and i would just pony up the cash for a volvo 240, you might even save money by going the sbc swap route on a volvo

>>28700095
>there are chinese dual planes on ebay
you don't have to cheap out on everything, damn.

>>28700101
sbc dual planes only bring about $40-50, name brands. im not paying $300 for a name brand intake just because its a ford

>>28700114
if a 400 dollar intake makes you flinch you can't really afford to be doing this shit

>>28699975
>>28700074
I thought this was the discussion of classics- are you lost?
You must be new here if youre not able to recognize rust pitting.

>>28700129
certified dumb nigger

>>28700095
>you people come here with the same retarded ideas every time.
What? The guy just wants to gut the interior and have one cheap racing seat and a galvanized fence post cage, rattle can the car flat black while also murdering it out, put wrong offset and backspace wheels on it with stretched tires, a Turbo Coupe rear axle for some rear pokage, and use a 140hp regular 5 liter with an Ebeldrock carb and DUI distributor. Oh and can't forget the Flowmasters. Nothing wrong with that.

>>28700145
It has brand new exhaust and recent paint.
Its had restoration work done.

You should learn more about classics and what age does to them before you post again.

>>28700117
blow 400 on intakes and you wont be doing much of this shit

Just finished some headman longtubes for my '77. Had to chop and move some of the pipes around in the back 3 to fit the narrower highboy frame, and I cut the flange in half to make them easier to work with. Now my starter is harder to change, but they look cool and definitely breathe better than the original manifolds. With the mild cam, fresh block, 4 barrel, and the new exhaust, I'm looking at a whopping 190ish hp. Torque for days though.

>>28699586
Best of luck. can't wait to hear and see more

>>28699961
based

>>28700169
Looks like painted cinder block guy

>>28699401
>I think the spark plug angle makes changing spark plugs suck on some cars with the Ps.
Yeah, a while ago, I put junkyard GT40P heads from a Mountaineer on my foxbody with typical non GT40 shorty headers. The plugs were directly against most of the header pipes. Even with lots of heat jacketing, it commonly melted spark plug boots and I had to grind a socket with clearance just to get the plugs out. I hunted for GT40p specific headers for a while, but there was only one company making them and they died a while ago. You definitely should take the ehaust from the donor if you go this route and/or will probably have to make some headers. I ended up modifying my header angle to give the plugs extra clearance and had no issues after that.
But there's so many decent aftermarket heads now with the correct spark plug angle that are better anyways. It's probably not worth the hassle unless you get the heads/intake for very cheap.

https://youtu.be/JQlCYdr-geU?si=Vnwd4T8bb5m41pe0
57:44 firebird made it into the duct tape drags video

>>28700169
Is this pic before the application of a pound of bondo?

>>28700214
I thought I saw your firebird in there but at a different time.

>>28700169
I got 4 motherfuckin foxbodies and even the rustiest one ain't got uniform pitting all the way across the ass end like that pic.
it's fuckin undercoating either dealer installed or factory.

>>28699951
>>28700169
I'm pretty sure the paint is original and that's just undercoat, but as I can't inspect the car in person I can't be 100% sure.
>>28700095
>why do you give a shit that its a virgin?
I don't care that it's a virgin, I care that some guy that did a handful of tasteless half baked mods to what was a virgin car, then dumpsterd all the original parts, and then thinks that makes it worth fucking $9k. That's really the problem with the red one. I asked him to send me the VIN, he didn't respond. His photos on Facebook marketplace carefully avoided showing the torn vinyl on the drivers seat which is clearly visible in a prior listing I found for the same car - which makes me wonder what else he's hiding. I get a bad feeling from the seller and that's the main problem - there's just no telling what he's hiding if he'll hide such a small thing.

I'm not planning to gut the thing and make some kind of hooligan deathtrap out of it. I'm trying to build a driver with 200-300 casual lazy hp and a nice wide range manual transmission for croozing. I want a good interior, and while upholstery + carpet + headliner are easy enough, door panels and dashboards and the like aren't so easy. It's nice to have a clean starting point.

>just pony up the cash for a volvo 240
You mentioned that in the last thread, and said you'd had three of these cars and sold them. You never said why you sold them, or explained why a 240 would be a good choice. I don't know much about them - I've never owned a Volvo, and the only euro cars I have any experience with are an R107 and an E39. I loved both those cars but desu they were a bit of a pain in the ass to work on. I'm concerned a Volvo being similar, and harder to find parts for, but maybe I'm off base here.

>>28700214
>si=

>>28700306
>you mentioned that in the last thread
i forgot i replied to you, 4chan has been claiming all of my isps as tor exit nodes. ive written many things and immediately forgotten about them because it wasnt convenient to post

i bought the nicest of the cars for $3500, and it had been in a storage unit since 2001, it was truly mint and original. it was parked because the head gasket (and rest of the engine) was done. i took too long (2 years) scheming what engine to put into it and in that time the body of the car was rapidly rusting out, never exposed to salt, just humidity. I put in a built motor and a 5 speed from another car, the same year, which had spent all its life in indiana, and only had typical strut tower rust. No one i could find was competent enough to mill the intake for a 2bbl so I swapped the engine from a third car, a '82 that had spent its entire life in WV, again, i paid like $200 for this running driving car. It only had rust in the trunk, which was near non existent. I put the built motor in that car and got it running well on the stock carburetor, which was a waste of time for a 200ci. The nice car always had a problem with the brakes locking up in stop and go traffic, and i discovered the SAE style master cylinder is unobtainable in working condition. Faced with redoing all of the brake lines on a rusted out car, and having 2 other rusted out cars that were also genuinely worth nothing, i parted them out and scrapped them.

I know the volvo has lots of aftermarket for the SBC swap and that is what inspired me to buy a fairmont, at the time they were way cheaper than the volvos, now that is not the case. The volvo is also made out of galvanized steel and lacks the major quality issues that domestics have.

>>28700319
What does that mean

Going to walmart soon. Which one should I get for my shitbox?

>>28700394
I usually opt to buy Mobil 1 when they have what I need available. It's also full synthetic. Between 20W-50 and 15W-50, the heavier weight might be nice if you have a weepy leaky piece of shit.

>>28700394
rotella T4 10w30

>>28700394
I was leaning towards the thicker valvoline because the mobil is said to thin out quite a bit from use. But on the other hand nobody uses that valvoline so nobody has anything to say about it.

>>28700407
>meme answer
Kill yourself

>>28700394
Do they got zr1?

>>28700434
VR1 20w50? I think so.
Would that be a better option than either of those?

>>28700380
The question mark and everything after is a tracker

>>28700324
Well, I'm picking up the 200ci Zephyr in a couple of days and we'll see how it goes. I'm not going to start any half baked mods right away in any case. First step will be to get it rock solid as-is.

If I don't love driving it stock, more power won't magically make it a different car. I'm not going to put a bunch of money and work into brakes and suspension and eventually drivetrain if it doesn't click for me. I'll go through it end to end and put some miles on it, see how I feel, and decide where to go from there.

If it hits me in the feels, the time and money to get it where I eventually want it will be fun and well spent. If not, I'll just sell it and start looking hard at some 240s and maybe W123s.

>>28700746
most 6 cyl cars have no fan shroud and no fan clutch, this setup robs a lot of power from the anemic engine, adding a cowl + clutch fan was the best single modification i did. you can pound the catalyst out of the downpipe but its a pain and at 5" diameter it doesnt make much of a difference. there is a second gasket under the carburetor base that has leaked on every car. The rear will almost always be a 2.73, which will hold up to a 302 fine but will feel sluggish. the holley carb that it comes with is the best option, i tried multiple others and always lost drivability with them. stock distributor is a pain to fk with, dont bother with a cheap HEI, get a DUI HEI distributor if you want to recurve. When i got the first car i tuned it for E85 which was locally available, distilled pure alcohol and ran the car off that for a bit. It was fun.

There is a page called myzephyrs or something that advertises some door seals. The seals dont actually fucking fit, but the dimensions are correct. If you can find someone competent enough to make those parts, it will probably help avoid interior rust.

>>28700444
Huh, so if i post a link i shouldn't post anything after the question mark?

I found cancer hiding behind my door seal
its fucking joever
(buying a new door tomorrow for $80)

>>28699883
that's exactly what i'm looking for, but i'm having a brain fart and cannot for the life of me remember what it's called...

>>28700401
>It's also full synthetic
iirc the walmart mobil 1 is actually semi syn after they lost a court battle against castrol over what could be classified as semi or full synthetic

>>28700882
yes so your link will be:
https://youtu.be/JQlCYdr-geU

>>28699345
I'd kill for a grille like that, though I can't say mine is all that bad,

>>28700882
>>28701026
correct

what happened to that corvolt fellah
did he an hero after realizing he would never follow through?

>>28701249
Damn, I forgot about that guy.

>>28700967
ok so in burgerland it's apparently plumber's tape/strap, and in shitposterland it's called hoop iron instead.

>>28701249
Killed in a shootout with the US Marshalls

>>28700882
Yes.
I uually delete the crap then copy paste whats left in another windows to make sure it works so I dont look like a dumbass when I post it.
>t. Dumbass

>>28701250
What wheels are those?

>>28701762
iirc, they're some discontinued alloy wheels from American Racing. I'll have to check.

>>28701762
"Long-discontinued Welds, IIRC, from ~1990."

maybe these

>>28702094
>>28702070
>>28702039
Thanks
>long since discontinued
shid

>>28700394
Stop using absurdly thick ass oil like that if your car doesn't need it.

>>28702106
>if your car doesn't need it.
Guess what faggot, I know more about my car than you do.

>>28702111
I would sure hope so. Did I fucking stutter, brainlet? IF your car doesn't need it.

>>28702101
no problem

>>28700394
>shitbox
I use the cheapest stuff for shitbox duty

>>28702116
You stuttered a whole useless post. Next time don't.

>>28702136
Next time, buy a ¨car¨ that doesn't leak oil so bad that you need to use tar as engine oil.

Well I picked it up today.

Clean, non salvage title.
Incredibly filthy exterior, but that's the desert for you.
Interior is a little grimy but I can tell it'll clean up nice. It's in good shape.
Absolutely reeked of old gas, had about 1/4 tank in it. I decided to power through it and filled it up with fresh fuel.
Someone obviously started working on it last year, as there's evidence of a 2024 oil change. Transmission fluid looked good too.
No obvious leaks, but it was burning something off the exhaust. Probably just from sitting but there might be a seep somewhere.
Had some grinding from the front driver side wheel at one point on drive. Started, then went away. Getting it up for a look at the brakes and such is a priority.
Everything seems to work though, including the A/C though it needs a charge.
Runs ok, some stumbling, stalled once when putting it in reverse, etc. Needs a tune up.

Took it and sprayed it off but it'll need a more thorough wash soon. Too dark out now to get any decent pics but I'll take some tomorrow.

Going to start just going through it bit by bit this week.

>>28702718
Shit, I'd take a Lagonda and drive the piss out of it up the Cornish coast.

>>28702717
NICE you already got it. That's awesome you were able to drive it home.

>>28702717
looks like mice may have been under the hood, gnawing at the hood insulation
incredibly lucky they didn't get into the interior

Do you think closed cell foam is necessary in addition to the sound deadening i put in
Before there was only the old rockwool fiberglass stuff
My pops says its overkill and pointless

>>28703532
No such thing as "overkill" when it comes to sound deadening.

>>28703536
Any recommendations or does it not matter
I was thinking of getting one inch thick stuff, but I could probably fit two-inch

>>28703532
Definitely no such thing as overkill. If I was where you're at with it all stripped already I'd be just maxing it out. I love a quiet interior, take advantage of the access now before you get a new headliner in.

He was a Simple, kinda man.

>>28703493
>>28703497
Yeah I took a bit of a gamble on driving it home and had a couple of scares but it worked out. It's not as perfect as I had hoped, but it's honestly better than I had any right to expect it to be. I think there's potential here. Interior is in good enough shape that I honestly might just pay a mobile detailer to come do a deep clean and save myself the effort. They have all the tools and good chemicals and will get it done way quicker than I could, and I can focus on the meatier stuff.

First step I think will be to get it up on stands, pull the wheels off, and give the brakes/bearings/tie rods etc all a good check. I'll spray everything down with degreaser and brake cleaner while I'm in there. Then I'll change all the fluids (brake fluid and coolant look nasty, oil and trans fluid are clean) for good measure, and give it a proper carb adjustment and tune up. It's seeping some oil from a couple of places on the engine and some was getting on the exhaust causing some smoking. It might have a transmission leak too but I have to get under it.

Came with a couple bonuses, including the original owners manual and a Haynes book. Saves me the trouble of buying them at least.

>>28703774
LOOKIN GOOD and all of that sounds like a solid plan.

>>28703610
another thing, do you think i should glue the foam mat to the roof or to the backside of the headliner

>>28703826
I'd probably do it to the roof myself, but I don't know if that's the best option. The roof is what makes the noise and you're mass-dampening it by adding directly to it.

>>28703826
Will foam retain moisture behind the headliner?

I bought another trans am project

>>28703853
would it be worth spraypainting it to seal it?

>>28703841
+1 for roof.
>>28703944
Yes
>>28703853
You shouldnt have that much moisture getting trapped behind the headliner.

>>28698671 (OP)
I ended up trying to cut off the frozen shock stud/nut on my '85 Grand Marquis, but I am poor, so I couldn't get a really nice tool, I'm using a cheap rotary tool.

How long does this shit take? Am I messing up my cutoff wheels or something, because they seem to stop cutting.

>>28704076
You may have work hardened the stud from excess heat, which would explain why it's being a bitch to cut through now.

>>28704108
Maybe, I wasn't pressing too hard but it's in a hard to control spot. If I did harden it, any tips? I was going to just keep trying to chip at it over the next couple days when I have extra time until it comes off. FUCK this piece of shit rusted shock

>>28704229
>any tips?
harbor freight reciprocating saw and grinder

>>28704076
Dude.
Are you seriously trying to cut through a 1/2" grade 8 bolt with a dremel??

It's got a fan clutch and shroud, so that's nice. Once less thing to worry about. Looks like the water pump has been replaced and a couple of other things under the hood.
>>28703913
Pics or doesn't real.
>>28704076
Man it's going to take forever that way, but if that's your only option keep at it. A hacksaw might even be faster if you have room.

>>28704369
that's good, however it feels now is about as good as its gonna feel. FE roller rockers *might* fit, but i never tried it. Factory non-a/c cars you can replace the heater core through the glove box. some factory non-a/c cars have dealership a/c and its difficult to tell, just take the govebox out and see if you can get to it. If the starter solenoid on the fender well fails, welcome to ford starter solenoid hell, go to tractor supply co and get the metal case starter solenoid, its the only one that i have had consistent success in using. Depending on year you have metric or SAE master cyl, if you have an SAE one go ahead and be on the lookout for a metric car to steal the brake lines off of, they have M12 fittings that you cant get from the parts store. The SAE master cylinders that are available do not work.

>>28704554
>FE roller rockers *might* fit, but i never tried it.
sup Collin? You ever going to actually do that mod?

>>28704619
im never going to own malaise era domestic again, so no

>77 Chevy Van G20 Beauville
it's a 350 with a th350. all stock.
I've had it for almost 2 years now. I took the third row bench out and replaced it with a floor mounted king size bed with a fridge under thge bed next to a 5 foot pull-out drawer to the rear. it makes a great weekend camping vehicle with the family.

the wheels where replaced with Supremes with white walls to give the van some swagger and added the fog lamps to top off the looks.

then I replaced the stereo with a retro blaupunkt unit (looks like early '80s), added some autometer gauges and replaced all weather stripping with fresh ruubber.

I find it amazing how well this van just works with all its creature comforts like AC front and back, and cruise control.

>>28704624
it's just so comfy and everybody seems to love it, car guys and normies. I am used to quite a bit of chit chat from strangers since I have a Z3m Clownshoe, but the amount of talk I get with the van is unreal.

>>28704626
I took it to 1200 km the beach in Denmark for a 2 week camping trip this summer.

Get a classic car in the best shape you can afford, work on it, service it, and most of all, drive it as much as you can. It's the antidote to getting annoyed with all of the expensive boring vehicles of nowadays.

>>28704622
checked

>>28704624
>>28704626
>>28704630
>Schweizposter with an yank van
based. What do your friends/coworkers/street normies think about a shagginwagon rolling around mountain jew territory?

>>28704638
no matter if friends, family, coworkers or random normies, they either find it over the top awesome or they shrug their shoulders because they just don't get it.

>>28701648
This is probably bullshit but on the off chance…. Sauce?

>>28704282
yes, I'm poor. I'd have gotten a cutting torch but I can't afford to drop many hundreds on this. To my credit I was able to cut off the stud above the nut just to give me better access. The nut is utterly mangled now but it just keeps holding on. I'm actually just going to pay some guy $50 to use his tools on it if I can find someone.

Once I have a real job I would just get a cutting torch for rusted stuff and call it a day.

>>28704369
It's taken a while. There's no clearance for a hacksaw in there. When I put the new shocks in I'll be using antisieze. The new monroe shocks I got are also terrible, but I'm fine with crappy shocks if it's one less rusted POS on the car.

Owners manual had this note which is pretty cool.
>>28704554
>however it feels now is about as good as its gonna feel
I'm not worried about getting more power out of this motor - I read up on the 200ci's and yeah there's just nothing you can really do. I wish I'd been able to find a clean one with a factory 302 but I'm sure most of them have been turned into clapped out redneck drag cars at this point.

Besides a tuneup (carb clean+adjust, rebuild if needed, new plugs and check spark gap etc etc etc) I'm not going to mess with this motor unless I need to repair something. If I decide I'm going to keep the car long term, I'll probably think really hard about swapping a 302 in at the same type I put a manual in it. That does require the k-member swap which would be the most extreme mod I've ever attempted on a car. For now I'm gonna just start going down the list of maintenance items in the Haynes manual one at a time. If I still like the car by the time I'm done, we'll see.

I am thinking about what to do about all the emissions shit under the hood. On one hand it's a bunch of bullshit I'd rather not have to work around, one the other I'm always nervous that if I start messing with it I won't be able to get it running right or it'll throw some other sensor or something off.

>>28705471
FIFTY DOLLARS WILL BUY YOU A RECIPROCATING SAW AND BLADES

https://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/power-saws/reciprocating-saws/6-amp-rotating-handle-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-57806.html
>$28
https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-14-tpi-metal-cutting-bi-metal-reciprocating-saw-blades-5-pack-68033.html
>$7
https://www.harborfreight.com/43-amp-4-12-in-angle-grinder-with-slide-switch-58089.html
>$15
https://www.harborfreight.com/4-12-in-24-grit-type-27-metal-grinding-wheel-64025.html
>$2
>$52 TOTAL

>>28705853
Poverty is a mentality

Very light and small engine block

is there an detailed writeup on building a clevor or is it something you can't do without going to a specialty machine shop

>>28705471
Youre this far in, dont spend more money.
Cut the nut.
Then it will jjust crack off.

>>28706121
You can do it at home.
https://www.rcnmag.com/tech/anatomy-of-a-351-clevor-engine

>>28705515
>200ci
turbocharge it
>>28706089
What engine?

>>28706089
emdgin blog :DDD

>>28706220
472 cadillac
Customer wants it cleaned and inspected

>>28706220
>turbocharge
you'd catch alot of hell building a hotside manifold for it.
I always figured the easiest thing to do is the tripple singles for cylinder distribution and have it decked for 9.5:1 or higher.

>>28703913
>>28704623
>casually posts the coolest car in this thread
I'm jealous bro, what other trans am do you have?

Any suggestions on replacement for the hood insulation? This one is pretty ratty and torn up. Also are these made out of asbestos that will give me ultracancer?
>>28706220
>turbocharge it
I must admit that goes well beyond my fabrication skills. There's a few guys on the FordSix Performance forum who have done it, but the ones who have posted dyno charts - they're less than impressive. Most of them are still putting out less than a mildly built NA 302, and stuff starts to break above 10lbs of boost. 5-7lbs seems like the sweet spot and then you can maybe get around 130-150 out of it. I don't really want to put a cam with a lopy idle in it desu - one of the things I really like about a straight six is the smoothness.

One thing I'm not clear on is how easy it would be to drop a larger ford six into it - either a 250ci or 300ci. If either of those is an option without having to fab custom motor mounts or swap the K-frame, that's an interesting alternative because it should be easy to find a 300 to pull out of an old F-150 or something. The 300ci would get me to right around the baseline performance of a bone stock 302 which is good enough for my purposes.

>>28705853
I already have one retard, you try fitting that huge POS inside of a tight space. Pro tip: it's impossible.

I'm going to return it, actually.

>>28706142
Too late, I already gave a guy $40 to use some snap on acorn files on his $400 power tool to do it.

I actually did cut the nut. Once to relieve pressure, and it still didn't work. I cut the nut completely in half and it was seriously still galled and frozen tight to the stud even though the nut was in half. It was at that point I decided to just call someone. When I return all the tools I thought would work then I'll get like $70 back anyway. I'm just glad the shock is out, I'll be installing the new one later today and finally going for a spin again.

>>28706473
You're right, anon. I'm the retard. But you're the one that had to pay someone else to bust a nut for you.

Hello
I have a not a classic and ive been replacing the back end due to a rusty seam along where the floor meets the rear wall and im now at the point where I can start to think about paint prep and shit.
The underside has some kind of rubberized coating on it from factory and I had to remove a bit of it to weld the panels on.
Does anyone have suggestion for a product which would replicate that kind of finish?
I dont live where there is salt, the climate is dry and the car was only rusty because its an import so im hoping i wont have to worry about a coating trapping shit and causing problems down the line

>>28706490
I know, but at least I tried. I only did that when I realized it was going to cost me way more time and money than just having that one thing taken care of, so it is what it is. In hindsight a (good) cordless drill or something might have been the right choice, unless I can get a cutting torch somewhere for a good price.

Most of the bolts on the car aren't siezed up like that, but if there are even a few more, I think I wouldn't mind investing in a small cutting torch setup, but I won't be doing any more suspension work for a while so that'll be later.

Anyway yes I am retarded still

>>28706498
>a product which would replicate that kind of finish?
Bed liner. (Rhino liner etc)
You can get it in a gallon can and apply.it with a paint roller.

>>28706498
>>28706564
Speaking of doing paint prep or undercarriage clean up - how the fuck am I supposed to do it without a lift or a sand blaster? My car doesn't have any undercoat and it makes me nervous.

Do I just have to buy a Harbor Freight sand blaster and a bunch of cheap media? I guess I can probably get enough room by putting some boards beneath jack stands if I need to.

>>28706564
>paint roller
Yeah, because that's how they applied it in the factory. With a paint roller and a bucket.

>>28706647
Stop being autistic

>>28706649
>Does anyone have suggestion for a product which would replicate that kind of finish?
I personally wouldn't care either.

>>28706644
my eventual plan is a tilt over jig, a wire wheel and many many many hours

>>28706653
Oh I didn't read the post i just jumped in and wanted to insult somebody

>>28706649
I cant, im too far gone
Ive replaced entire panels instead of doing patches because I dont want to be able to see anything when im done

>>28706564
For whatever reason this kind of stuff is far more expensive than a specific underbody coating from 3m, sika etc.
The cost for 4L of bedliner equals 12L of underbody coating

>>28706644
I have it up on tall jack stands, plan is to do it from each side to cover everything

Previous owner put a new fuel tank in the ltd but it always smells like gas, bad. Should I just put a bead of rtv around this?

>>28706685
Looks like it's leaking a bit regularly from those two spots.. If it's not too much trouble I'd try to drop it and re-do that seal entirely. Putting a bead of RTV on it might work if you cleaned the area well enough first though.

The motherfucker who I was buying the Pierce-Arrow from returned my $16k check; selling it out from under me for $18k...

I swear I'm fucking cursed...

>>28706780
shitty. Would you have bought it for 18?

>>28706782
Yes, but $16k was what he was asking for the car. I didn't even haggle with him.

I'm sure it'll be up on Bring A Trailer next week...

>>28706089
>bearing comes apart and metal contaminates the oil
>Welp need a new block because the oil pump surfaces are fucked

>>28706644
The biggest limitation with a sand blaster is going to be your air compressor. I had to get a fuckhuge compressor to get my sand blaster to work right, getting it up into the air isn't that big a deal though. Just get the HF 12ton jacks

>>28706353
>you'd catch alot of hell building a hotside manifold for it
Bah, just run a hot pipe under to the opposite side of the engine and have the turbo over there.

>>28706792
tried to do that on a car i really wanted but i was too slow

>>28706685
rtv will not stop gasoline fart knocker, it probably needs a new filler grommit.

>>28707024
i dont give a shit what anyone tells you
you can't use sealant on exhaust or fuel.
you'd be better off trying to soak the filler grommit in maybe power steering fluid or some sortof oil that would make the rubber soak and expand, possibly also rolling the filler neck in it back and forth to massage it to seal evenly.

>>28706675
>>28706802
Do you own a spray gun too? God I wish I had the tools and space to totally strip my car down like that to get the undercarriage and engine bay and wheel wells perfect like that.

I only have a shitty little 3gal air compressor. I've only restored bikes and mostly using a wire wheel on a cordless drill followed by rattle canning. That would take a lifetime on a car body/chassis.

>>28707232
Id like to teach myself to paint but for this car itll be done professionally
A schutz gun will do the undercoating and they seem pretty retard proof

>>28707232
Yea, i have a spray gun as well. Single stage paints and epoxy primers are impossible to fuck up. Basecoat clearcoat takes some practice and strict adherence to the data sheet to make it work right. I got my massive tank of an air compressor at an estate sale for $200