Thread 513571497

These guys make $52k+ a year stocking soda, beer, etc. so what's the point of going to college when these people make more than you?

>>513571497 (OP)
(((College)))

>>513571497 (OP)
Pretty sure you can make more than 52k a year after college.

I did this job for 2 years and it sucks. You absolutely do not get 52k a year you fucking liar. More like 35k

>>513571497 (OP)
The point is to get fucked by the college athletes
Or be an athlete

>>513571815

Most careers are going to be phased out by AI, but go ahead and get into tens of thousands of dollars of debt so you can be replaced by AI and robots.

>>513571927
And I worked for Pepsi doing this exact job. Op is lying. This job sucks and pays nowhere near 52k a year

>>513571815
Potentially yes, but I wouldn't want to spend the first 5 to 10 years of my career paying away student debts.

>>513571815
Sky net will replace you

>>513571497 (OP)
I worked in a grocery store for a bit and these guys were always stressed-the-fuck-out failed normies.

>>513571497 (OP)

Night stockers make about 10k after tax

>>513571497 (OP)
So that you can make more than $52k/year

i hate being a europoor

>>513571497 (OP)
I make more than this resetting passwords from home.

>>513571927
>I did this job for 2 years and it sucks.
>>513572025
>This job sucks
Other than pay, what sucks about it?
The fact that you need to be smart enough to not put the mountain dew on the coke shelf???

>>513571497 (OP)
I don't want to do physical labor nor deal with the public. I never leave my house. My databases don't ask me stupid questions.

>>513571497 (OP)
They dont make that much. More like 20k at most.

>>513571497 (OP)
I work in a Hospice and I am 72 before taxes. So, Im happy.

>>513572165
Don't you guys have really low tuitions being in the EU and all?

>>513571815
I hate how dichotomous this is. /pol/ doesn’t understand that there’s a middle ground between a liberal arts degree from a four year university and being a plumber or truck driver.

You can be a machinist by just going to a community college. Or work as some kind of instrument tech in a vast array of places. BMET’s are related to instrument techs, and they make at least $55k to start, some sources say $65k (it shoots up significantly with experience, especially with various licenses and qualifications).

But no, go be a plumber or brick layer or some other low IQ bullshit.

>>513571497 (OP)
>>513571497 (OP)
The people that deliver soda are not vendors. They work for the soda company. You can make a lot of money as a vendor if you can get good routes. I know a bread man that makes 6 figures, but he starts his routes at 3 am. He also bought routes from other vendors to get more stops.

>>513572212
Its repetitive thoughtless labor

>>513572481
when does his shift end

>>513572046
>academic scholarships
>sports scholarships
>GI Bill
>colleges that offer free tuition for people from families below a certain income
>get your parents to pay for it if they earn above a certain income
plenty of options

>>513572212
The job takes zero brains I would at times listen to audiobooks while I work. It's not about intelligence. It is needing to sort thru and organize a bunch of pallets with limited space in stores, needing to move around with customers in way with rules set by stores about it, needing to build displays or fight to get them, being pressed to get certain places in time with odd schedules at times needing to be there at 4am, having to deal with a direct manager and a salesman, the pay is absolutely shit you will get 150% pay easily at a place like Amazon, you don't get paid at all for your gas while driving your own car everywhere, it's very physical in needing to pick shit up all day, you need to pay attention to experimentation dates too because believe it or not soda expires, your sales manager if he is a dip shit will analyze your work and scrutinize it cause it impacts his sales, you are tracked by a gps at all times on a phone they give you, you need to deal with asshole managers at grocery stores and suck it up following all of their rules for their stores, during busy seasons like a spring break in a city the sales are insane shit sells out fast and you need to keep restocking, zero advancement opportunity as a merchandiser besides maybe becoming a sales manager which doesn't pay much more. I have done a lot of these jobs I was a sales account manager for a wine company as well

I could keep going. If ur desperate do this job. If not find something else

>>513572454
Plumbers can start their own thing pretty damn easily. Being a self-employed PLC guy is possible but extremely difficult. Not needing a boss should be every man's goal

>>513572566
>Its repetitive thoughtless labor
thats 99% of jobs. Just put on headphones and listen to a podcast or something.

>>513572745
>Plumbers can start their own thing pretty damn easily.
Depends on your state/county regulations. Corporate plumbers set up countless artificial barriers to prevent competent men from even from clearing out drains.

>>513572270
You wipe nigger arses and bathe them. I've known some with kids that took expired food and frozen shit to eat because they were so dirt poor and miserable. Some were desperate enough to try to steal shit out of the homes they worked at. No thanks.

Lol dumb chuds glaze the trades while their Jewish masters send their kids to some of the most prestigious schools in the world. Sad!

>>513572481
food land Ontario???

>>513571497 (OP)
They have more change to get killed by a nigger directly or in directly

>>513572270
How do u work with dealing with the dying?!!??!?

>>513572883
I am an RSW, so Im now allowed to touch them. I just talk to them. Try again

>>513571497 (OP)
yeah he's a truck driver, that's about right for local delivery work. The shelf monkeys in the stores do not make 50k a year, but the management tier does.

>>513572715
Also you are not staying at 1 store. You are doing 4-6 a day. Some take almost no time and big grocery stores in a city centric time can take hours as you may get literally 4-5 pallets of shit that you need to magically find a way to fit in your designated spot cause there are other companies like wine, beer, other soda companies, the grocery stores stock and a bunch of other things. You have to break it all down too so what you need will be reachable and not to take all the crap down every time. Also you may need to use things like plastic wrap at times to prevent stuff from falling, wheel out while pallets to build displays or if under certain rules by stores cause they don't want customers seeing pallets need to take it all bit by bit. At times managers change their mind and you got to take shit down you built

>>513572901
Why would they need to do that when they just nepo each other into everything anyway?

>>513572976
Self Care is very important. On weekend I get high and play Squad, That helps some.

>>513571815
All white collar jobs are DONE after 2030, so if you don't already have your diploma it's too late. A 4-year degree will put you in at 2029, so you'll have 1 year of the good life if you get hired instantly.

>>513571497 (OP)
That guy probably makes closer to 35k a year. That's before taxes.

>>513571497 (OP)
This is why wagies deserve to be culled.

>born in the best country to ever exist
>one chance at life
>spend it putting soda on a shelf to earn just enough to live

Whats the point of these people e en being alive? I mean I'm glad because I don't want to do a shit job like that. But what do they get? To live? Why is that important? All they do is stock shelves and turn O2 into CO2. Is that enough for them?

>>513573038
I may have some family that are the equivalent here. I was going to rant but not worth the effort.
They are miserable and make everyone around them miserable. I don't envy it. Good day.

>>513571497 (OP)
Costco is giving two cost of living raises in the next 2 years and top of scale pay at premium locations (+$2/hour) will be $36.90. You don't even have to work in a store, you can be at an MDO warehouse where you just move large merch with a bunch of bros. Anyone off the street can get hired, they don't acknowledge prior experience, they train you in their ways. Even collecting carts, you start at $21/hour.

>>513572270
I hope you're kind. My dad is on hospice rn.

>>513572335
i was complaining about the salary, but yeah, lets say like 1.2k a year, a bit more for degrees wih practical curriculum

>>513573245
Oh and sundays are time-and-a-half all day

>>513573214
>Whats the point of these people e en being alive?
To stock the soda dumbfuck.

>>513572335
Problem is that the pay is even lower and the job market is even smaller. For reference, the high prices Americans are getting now are the usual prices here. Spaniards are still brown, so don't expect a proper revolution anytime soon.

>>513573043
He is not a truck driver. Companies like Pepsi + coke have a truck driver that drives a 18 wheeler and drops the soda off at the location. Then the guy in pic of thread drives to store in his personal car and sorts thru it all organizing it. Then you have a third guy who is a sales account manager who is who places the deliveries for certain stores. Then you have your own personal manager that managers the merchandisers who stock maybe like 8 of them. You are all familiar with the other merchandisers as you may need to take care of each other's stores at times or help each other.

At times these jobs include a hybrid where you do both the stocking and the ordering. Some other companies like wine the stores may have an automated system that orders the stuff and workers stock it at other places they want you to stock everything. It really depends.

>>513572139
it's much worse. 52k/y in this context is most certainly gross, so it's more like 35-38k after tax.

>>513572066
This estimate is probably correct. If you're 20+ working in a place like that, just fucking kill yourself.

>>513573214
You need to view the world more realistically. Not everyone can do something meaningful with their lives. The vast majority of people don't and that's been the case for all of history, everywhere in the world. And hell, most "meaningful" work doesn't matter either. Oh you worked in an office programming software for people to do their taxes or something. Who gives a fuck? Someone has to do the shitty "meaningless" jobs, and it's either going to be one of your fellow citizens or it's going to be some imported jeet or nigger that will make your country worse to live in. You pick.

>>513571815
media income in the usa is 62kish so theyre not far below average

>>513572481
The bread guys make much more because they purchase their routes. It cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars. They are independent contractors. They may hire an employee to do this route for them or do it themselves. They are not controlled by a major company like Pepsi or coca cola but they need to make a huge personal investment they are essentially a business owner. Their income will vary a lot on the sales they generate in stores by the ground they cover in stores by getting shelf space around it and maintaining relationships with stores. This is an entirely different field than working for a big regulated corporation

>>513572270
>>513573173
>>513573253
Not every angel has their wings on. Good night for today, you're doing well.

>>513572212
I've seen them in stores, they haul out multiple pallets and have to stock soda for hours. It's probably no better than manual labor.

>>513571497 (OP)
Last year I made 60k from books I wrote few years ago.
All I do is go out to eat, shit post on /pol/ and play vydia.

>>513573760
they work in a/c and can buy the food that's around them. It sucks but it could also suck way more.

>>513571815
I make ~$400,000. I went to college, although college is gay you need it for these kinds of jobs. Don't study something gay or retarded though and you have to keep your eyes on the floor during the Maoist struggle sessions in class.

>>513572066
>Night stockers make about 10k after tax
Nah... WinCo grocery for example tops out at I think $26-$28 per hour and then +$1 more for the overnight hours. I don't know what vendors make but I'm sure it's somewhere in there. Then it's just hours VS route size...
It's not a great job or anything but at least retail wise you mostly dodge seeing any customers.

>>513573245
Costco truly is 'the place where dreams come true' o/

>>513571497 (OP)
After Bidenflation and Trump’s tariffs, 52k is below the effective poverty line in most counties, boomer

>>513572212
Found the officefag.

>>513573872
What did you study?

>>513572270
>72
that's only $51k USD big dawg. Almost what OP makes. How do you survive on that?

>>513571497 (OP)
>Make $270k a year in the midwest
Nah I'll take my medfag job thanks

>>513571497 (OP)
Imagine spending 2/3rds of your life under the shitty dull artificial lighting of a supermarket

>>513574055
engineering

I joined the Army
Now I work for UPS
I made 138k last year.

>>513574251
You're smart. Couldn't get past Calc 2.

>>513574346
How many hours do you work a week?

>>513573725
Love you Lisbon anon

>>513571497 (OP)
LOL imagine flexing a $52k job

>>513573253
always, esp as an RSW there for the hosp Client and the family

>>513574100
The mortgage is paid and my 2022 Jetta highline is paid for in cash. Im 28. Living good so far. I dont know how I did it. Im not fancy. But the bills are paid. I have good savings I guess

>>513571497 (OP)
It's kind of a shit job anon, my friend did it stocking chips.
For one, 52k on paper is comfy to a neet. But that's before taxes. Secondly you're on salary so no overtime. You work your route every fucking day until the jobs done. Start at 4am to get the head start, bam weather, bam traffic, bam accidents on the highway. You drive 100s kms a day
And most your days end up being 12hrs long or more sometimes because some chinkoid or brownoid got their license rubber stamped and pulled an illegal u turn on the highway killing a family of 3. Now you're sitting in a box truck for 5 hours more of your day while they investigate.
Some people are okay with that life. It wouldn't be for me.

>>513571497 (OP)
They have to put in well over 40 hours a week for that job, it sucks.

>>513571497 (OP)
No they dont you retard they get paid minimum wage work part time barely get any hours or any help.

>>513572270
you must get crazy pussy working with all those stupid sluts

>>513571989
Not everybody who goes to college has debt. Get a full ride scholarship.

>>513575470
>inb4 tits or gtf0
im a female, as most RSWs are. No one here gives a fuck. I get nothing.

>>513574691
45-50
More during holidays.

>>513575609
You know the rules

>>513575777
Too bad I don't follow the rules

>>513575609
This is the war in Ba Sing Se, Sharpie in pooper STAT

>>513575697
No thanks

Retard niggers don’t realize Jews have infiltrated for so long the system has been running on the commie they pretend to pay us we pretend work model. Everything is fake and backed by nothing and you will be replaced. To not find the easiest path to some kind of income and chill life means your a dumb nigger that fell for every line.

>>513576106
What do you do for employment?

>>513575609
ummm hi

goyim should just be slaves.

>>513576534
Jews should just be soap.

>>513573173
>>513575609
>play squad
>im a female
kys tranny

My biggest regret in life is going to school for gay bullshit just to become a trucker making 75k. I could have at least learned something useful and still became a trucker.

>>513576513
>>513576670
Okay later tho

>>513573516
>>513573725
>>513574797
Love u all

The merchandisers in my area make $17-$20/hr and they work 50-60 hrs a week. They can easily make that $52k but they work a lot of hours

>>513574136
lmao xrayfag here 2 years of schooling and making 110k to press a button.
God bless America.
This country is slowly turning into a big ole hospital anyway due to the aging population so jobs are never stopping.

>>513576743
Love you too, stay safe and enjoy the fall.

>>513576534
goyims are already slaves though

>>513576153
Rake leaves.

>>513577143
Thats nice. Good work

>52k a year

Is this supposed to be impressive? Lmao. 52k a year is low income in most major cities. Street shitting pajeets who come here and take their mutual funds liscene get jobs as financial advisors after one year and make more money than your average grocery store department manager

>>513575017
>70k a year
>Has a mortgage

Where the fuck do you live ?

>>513577764
I said Ontario silly

>>513577961
What in sault Ste marrie ? Lmao

>>513571815
>Pretty sure you can make more than 52k a year after college.
not anymore

>>513575105
>Secondly you're on salary so no overtime

what?

>>513578057
Not so far from there. On the water

>>513571497 (OP)
>52k+ a year
Strong doubt, where do I sign up?
>>513572212
Not being able to live on minimum wage

>>513578190
Thunder Bay ? Either way that makes sense you can afford a mortgage now

>>513572692
>>academic scholarships
Passed out to foids
>>sports scholarships
Passed out to niggers
>>GI Bill
Passed to to retard bootlickers
>>colleges that offer free tuition for people from families below a certain income
Passed out to poor niggers
>>get your parents to pay for it if they earn above a certain income
Passed out by boomer parents (if you're lucky)

>>513578319
No, but good guess. I don't live in a city that's so expensive. I have a nice view of the water though so that makes me happy. So, of course If did live in a terrible city like Toronto, my job would not be enough to make ends met. Glad I live where I do and my Job pays what It does.

>>513578444
>>>colleges that offer free tuition for people from families below a certain income
this is just cope I got one of these and a academic one for good performance and I didnt pay more than 1k a year in school.

>>513571497 (OP)
is 5k net to spend 2 weeks in Greece with the family, so he can work what...3 years to afford it?

>>513579004
But that's because you are a poor nigger anon.

>>513574610
There are many different types of intelligence. Don't be hard on yourself.

you're probably gonna waste $20k getting a cdl license and wait 10 years doing it part time until the person ahead of you retires

>>513571989
My work paid 100% for college, I didn't even want to work elsewhere because it's comfy as fuck and pays well to work remotely from home. Benefits are insane too.

>>513571927
my friend in italy does this, stocks shelves and works at the counter in the supermarket and gets paid 1500 euros a month, i worked as an IT consultant in a big company, which requires a degree in engineering, and i got paid 1400 a month the 1st year, my roomate does a similar job but he is more specialised and has 5 years of experience and makes around 1700 a month. italy is a shithole of a joke

>>513571815
I went to college and I make 33k a year. I'm a church organist.

>>513571497 (OP)
>>513571815
Software engineering pays $60k starting nowadays IF you’re lucky and get a job in the first place

>>513571815
I made 60k right out of College and within 5 years was making closer to 85k. Though I am a rare exception as I am a Software Engineer but started out in pure EE so had a lot of background in hardware that made me more valuable.

>>513579925
CDL is like 5k tops dude.

>>513580845
that sounds comfy. Do you live at least in like the cheap af deep South so you can save some of that.

>>513571497 (OP)
I make $150k a year

>>513573644
That's household income, not individual

>>513581152
Nice. what do you do?

>>513572715
Pepis is literally the worst company to work for ive been at pep for 3 years and i am on track to make 85-90 this year they pay millage i "skip" lunch and tack on the extra after im done how tf are you not pulling in $1700 a week

>>513571497 (OP)
There are niggas grinding certs for helpdesk jobs that pay less than this.

>>513575549
>Get a full ride scholarship.
AKA
>bro, just get a nepo baby grant
There wasn't a single person I knew who got good scholarships who didn't have a well connected family. Everyone else got shit that took their 4 year degree from $100,000 to a whopping $95,000 after hundreds of applications. College really is about grinding you down to better fit the corpo world.

>>513571497 (OP)
I make over 200k a year not including bonuses and stock options... I literally don't care what you say college was worth it for this simple fact

>>513571497 (OP)
1. No soda stocker actually makes 52K
2. 52K is a shit wage. You can barely live on that even without woman and children.
3. Most real degrees let you make close to double this almost out of college

>>513572715
I worked at a grocery store for 2 years part time while in school at the meat department. While I never wanted to elevate to anything above a csr everything you said is spot on to what the typical department manager would go through


- Bs like working to almost midnight on a Friday night and then having a shift at 630 am on a Sunday
-Being on salary and constantly working 45-50 hours a week despite only supposed to work 40
-Getting grilled on gp by the store manager in gap analysis
-either Having head management fuck with your orders and having half the shit go to shrink or not ordering enough and getting torched for that
- dealing with shitty unreliable high schoolers who call in sick every other shift
-desking with entitled customers non stop

>>513571497 (OP)
yes but soon all incels will be replaced by manlet robots. wimin won

>>513581684
This lol. I'm a millenial and make $380k as a 737 captain with no college degree. And people still think it's hard to get a job without a degree

>>513573214
Yes let's pretend making SAASslop and pretending to give a fuck about office (((culture))) is real work and no one needs food or any of that nonsense.

>>513581745
Sounds like Foodland

>>513581889
Farmboy actually

>>513581008
South, but not deep south unfortunately. I'm in Florida which these days is getting expensive. However I have a house I'm going to inherit pretty soon, may God rest my mother's soul.

>>513581920
I am so sorry

Haha I make 400k without a degree, drop shifting. On your knees wormlings

>>513580845
>I went to college and I make 33k a year. I'm a church organist.
I might be a gay Redditor for saying this, I dunno, I just randomly get shit of mine regarded as “gay Redditor shit”, but that’s genuinely a beautiful-sounding career, apart from the low pay. Props to you, anon. I’m not even a Christian but I respect it.

>>513581684
Kek alright Timmy go back to playing roblox

>>513573214
i like these jobs, because i dont have to
deal with suffocating office environments
full of people with fake jobs who make fake conversation
to pass time in their fake lives.
no thank you. i choose the meaningless job

>>513581291
software engineer

>>513571989
Your mom is going to be replaced by a robot

>>513582132
Noice

>>513574768
It’s bad out there. $0<$52k

>>513571497 (OP)
Job satisfaction, money, fun... STEM is the way of the white man. I get to do interesting experiments and build all kinds of interesting stuff, my work actually helps people, i get a lot more money, and i really enjoy my work. I also get to travel and meet all kinds of interesting autists. STEM is just cozy. I met my wife at uni, i met a lot of like minded people, most of us are really racist which is fun, i play DnD with my coworkers or people i had classes with, i ended up with some really interesting hobbies in large part because of stem... i just like it.
I have worked shit jobs before all this, and i can say from expreience, if the place is shit, if you hate doing it, money doesn't really matter. You won't be happy.

>>513580717
>worked as an IT consultant in a big company, which requires a degree in engineering, and i got paid 1400 a month the 1st year, my roomate does a similar job but he is more specialised and has 5 years of experience and makes around 1700 a month. italy is a shithole of a joke

And now you probably make 10000 per month in switzerland. Yea most eu countries are garbage when it comes to earnings. Whats the point of commanding 5 poeple and bening under stress all day when the best you can hope for is cashier earnings x 2.
Rather stack shelfs and do something on the side.

>>513582275
i am looking forward to hearing about your divorce rape story

>>513582275
>STEM is the way of the white man
Not anymore. Those white men are now hiring indians and token blacks over you

>>513571497 (OP)
they usually work 7 days a week, no holidays like fucking but people.

>>513582275
Its good to know stuff but dont kid yourself your job probably helps elite maintain power one way or another.
Autists at google like solving problems but those problems are how to track a milon poeple without causing data overload. Hown to filter and manipulate useful data for the elite. Etc. It might he a puzzle game for them but effects arent good.

>>513581765
it looks so happy in the green fields, running for his freedom

>>513582042
that's it? pathetic baby

>>513571497 (OP)
they should replace him with a filipino bug that works 3x hard and fast and fine with only earning 22k/yr. learn from your moral superior, americans

>>513573872
>and you have to keep your eyes on the floor during the Maoist struggle sessions in class.
Why aren't we killing people who teach communism in college?

>>513572046
I owe more on my degree than when I graduated 10 years ago

>>513571497 (OP)
Harsh job.
Lots of turnover.

>>513571497 (OP)
i always feel bad for these people when i walk by them in supermarkets. im glad they are getting paid somewhat decently though.

tbf this would be like making $25k in the year 2000.. which is shockingly poor.
the figures get people get paid today are quite bad and the type of menial pay you would expect when you make that conversion

>>513582969
i feel more bad for the retards who never had a critical thought
about their lives or their economic status
because they still believe in the system
pitiable levels of ignorance
at least most workers know shits bad
but the govt parasites and other people who dont struggle
lol, they are very disconnected from reality
when shit gets bad, they will be blindsided
these are the people you see in gore videos
totally oblivious to their surroundings

I went to college and only make 20 dollars an hour at a job which no longer allows me to leave an hour early for "lunch" because we "have to stay on teams until closing". 3/4s of my income come from crypto and stocks and precious metals and other sales/capital gains. It would be more, but I fucked up a trade and didn't sell the top, otherwise it would be more like 80% from capgains.

>>513583427
sleepy!

>>513580968
That jeet who killed three people in Florida some how got his license and doesn't know enough English that he needed a translator in court.

>>513572212
because you're using your own vehicle to go to every store

>>513573644
$42,000 as of last calc in 2023

Reminder that the LIVING WAGE for single people is close to $100,000 on average.

>>513571815
Lets break it down:
>4 years of college earning $0 or minimum wage job
>starting job year 5: $75k salary + benefits, - $800 student loan


Vs
>Starting year 0: Earning $52k/yearly and put 25% of salary in an global or Us index fund

It’s like 25 years before you break even

>>513584034
Here's the LIVING WAGE per state for singe person.

>>513572049
>been in the tech industry for almost 20 year
>Every year hear from some jealous bitch or tradie that X will make my job obsolete
>Every year I get more and more people calling me to build some gay ass app or code some gay ass patch so their internal software works with the latest Windows Slop

Granted I wouldn’t go CS if I was a zoomie, but you get the idea.

>>513584088
>jealous bitch
god what an insufferable cunt

>>513571497 (OP)
What he does is probably more useful than whatever the fuck you went to college for.

>>513581713
that was fifteen years ago. this is the post covid economy
college grads aren't swimming in cash like they were pre obama
this is an entirely different economy

>>513584088
also your post contradicts itself. fuck you
and this gay thread

>>513573445
From the perspective of a former grocery manager (another suck-ass job that barely pays enough to keep your neck above water and your shift schedule is shit), that seemed like a tough job. The guys were always nice but they also had their stock in the back in designated areas, which was helpful for the odd stash on-hand for customers. Also, people have to understand the soda aisle is a separate thing in a lot of ways from the store. Those shelves are independently stocked by the vendor. The store may have stock left on-hand in stores like the one I managed, but most don't. Anyway, don't fall for the grocery and merchandiser scam. I was also a merch manager in-store for a high-end bookseller and your life is working as your schedule constantly changes for no fucking reason. Two days off, then turnaround shifts then another 24 hours off but you're working 2-10 suddenly for three days straight, then 36 hours off until your 6 AM shift the day after next. Retail sucks. It pays just enough. But you have to give up stability of schedule.

>>513583892
Anon, you can get a CDL in my state by taking a written test, I am pretty sure. I'm sure it comes in Hindi. You just say "Yeppers! I totally have experience with trailers n shit" then you give them 1000 bucks and you're a truck drivin' man.
Some guy I was talking to a few days ago said I should do it.

>>513571815
That's the plan. You go to college to not do these jobs.

>>513582347
That's not really a thing in this country. I'm sorry to see you so broken that you find joy and hope for your fellow mans misery.
>>513582392
Once again, it is really sad to see how far your nation has fallen, that this is your instinctual answer. There was a time, when studying in oxford was considered a thing of pride in STEM. Now we avoid anything west of Vienna here. Don't get me wrong, i'm sure there are still great minds in the UK, it is after all the land of "lets wallace and gromit our way out of this shit". But you do seem to have an incomprihensibly retarded government and a culture crumbling under it's own good will and humanity; preventing your greats from emerging.
>>513582530
Well i worked on forensic and diagnostic methods for a while, mostly catching rapists and helping diagnose Alzheimers and IR early. Now i'm more focused on more permanent, long tearm solutions to heart diseases, mostly single treatment methods. So you don't have to take pills all your life.
Anything can be misused by vile men in politics, and all men in politics are vile, but there is still plenty of room to do some good too.
It's not my main reason for doing what i do, i'm not that much of an altruist or egotist, i just really enjoy lab work and research, i find it fun. But it does feel better when what i do has benefit to my countrymen.

>>513571497 (OP)
>These guys make $52k+ a year
Is this big money for a neet?

>>513571815
>Checks flag
You probably cant

>>513585074
I was in Budapest last summer. You people are so based. I want to move.

>>513572857
you can easily do 100k by yourself residential. youll just be the one getting materials, inventory, driving, doing the work(crawling, wrenching, cutting, carrying water heaters/toilets), taking the phone calls, scheduling, etc... any normal person could do the admin and the work, but you got a lot of outfits and nutjobs giving everyone a bad name.

>>513585076
NEETS have (optimally) EBT, disability, health care, maybe a small cash stipend per month, and either living with family for free or else section 8. Minus the health care potential value, it could cost between $18,000 to $34,000.

>>513585074
its not that i find joy in your suffering
its that you find joy in "humblebragging" about "muh wife"
it's humorous to me, because i have seen these cycles unfold from start to finish
so when someone like you is in the "honeymoon" phase
of life, it's humorous to think in juxtaposition to where you will likely be
where so many before you have ended up
and when people like you think it's reasonable to
compare yourself to others, or pretend
that because you found "a wife" at "uni"
that somehow if any random average guy
"follows the rules" he will "have what you have"
it's just funny because it's such a bizarre and distorted
reductionistic way of thinking
that imagining the cycle closing with your humbling
is satisfying in its own right
as it serves as justice against your thinly veiled
attempts at seeming humble while asserting your superiority
you make me sick

>>513572066
He's not a stocker that works for the grocery store, that guy works for pepsico and he hits up multiple locations in a day, he gets paid a fair amount more than the guys who work at the store stocking

>>513585477
depends which people you are talking about
the assistant managers? they probably make more
the managers? they definitely make more
the cashiers who work after high school? yeah pepsi beats them
a lot of grocery workers get paid well
it depends on your role at the store

>>513572066
i dont think hes working for $5 an hour, dumbass

>>513571989
>He fell for the AI meme

>>513585074
I think you're awesome. I am more interested in civil engineering type stuff but forensics sounds really cool too

>>513571497 (OP)
just lie on your resume and say you have a degree it worked for me. I make about 54k doing easy shit

>>513585639
>i dont think hes working for $5 an hour, dumbass
It's not $5 but it COULD be as low as $7.25

dumbass

>>513585568
>a lot of grocery workers get paid well
>it depends on your role at the store

It's not worth it, you'll have complete retards having power over you and that's not fun

>>513586221
honestly it's not that bad at all once you hit management
getting to management is brutal
i have been surrounded by retards my whole life
so that is nothing to me

>>513586390
>getting to management is brutal
I know. It's felt like a hamster wheel.

>>513571815
Requirements: 8 years experience
Pay: 4.25 + tip (from you)

>>513586221
>>513586390
I did overnight stock and made quite a bit. We did still have to deal with customers because we were open all night. This was before covid lockdowns. Now that chain closes its doors at 10 pm, so the night stock crew can do their business without getting interrupted by drunk retards at 4 am. I'm thinking about going back.

I don't actually need to work at all because I've got permanent military disability that I lied to get, but I need to get out more even if it is just to move boxes and talk to other wasteoids who work night stock.

>>513587323
Okay

>>513589478
Thank you.

>>513585654
>Fell for the low iq AI is a nothing burger, go back to doing your wagie job while we create the perfect wagie replacement psyop

ngmi

>>513580717
it kind of makes sense. if he doesn't stock the shelves and ring people up, they wouldn't eat.

but if mr goldbergs buy now pay later service crashes, who gives a fuck

>>513571815
Yea if your a nepo baby faggot inheriting daddies success

>>513571497 (OP)
To rack up debt and pussy obviously

>>513571927
they make 52k per year now because they work 60+ hours a week

>>513573872
I was on track for this but chimped out during one of those struggle sessions, had a nervous breakdown. System working as intended

>>513586171
>didn't request official, sealed transcripts

>>513571815

No. Unless you went to be a doctor but even then. Have fun with the 1200 a month debt payments for life

>>513582681
Now is the time for collecting names and recording crimes, not for actions. They will keep pushing their hand on peoples backs until the people break because they have no self control.

>>513571497 (OP)
whos hiring? Im currently an amazon driver and genuinely hate it.

>>513571497 (OP)
actually the guys at who deliver the doctor pepper, which is owned by kuerig now, at the racetrack near me get mad fucking perks along with like 80k salaries.

Its not a bad life but they make them stock it themselves.

>>513591661
Search for merchandiser in your area on Indeed. Pepsi, Coke, Beer companies, are always hiring because of the high turnover

Huge amount of neets and 20 bucks per hour fags in this thread.

>>513572212
Have fun getting punked by niggers on the night shift peice of shit boomer

>>513571497 (OP)
I work for pepsi as a merchandising manager.
AMA.
Starting pay is 19-20/h for merchandisers. If you get a sales position you can absolutely get 50k+/y tho. I did it with no experience other than basic retail work.
I make around $70k/y now.

> Math PhD
> Work in insurance and financial mathematics at a Swiss company
> Start own company with a German colleague
> Colleague turns out to be a retarded German
> Replace him with a Russian I met while playing DOTA, German colleague forced to go back to Swiss company
> tfw make more than 1 million USD a year currently working from home despite being in my low thirties, working all day long during the week or w/e my colleague is online
> tfw I can send monetary support to my family in India
> tfw I can spend the time at work it takes to compute dunking on nahtzees in different image boards
Too bad the homeless nahtzee turds aren't posting in this thread.

>>513573821
What kind and now many

>>513592001
You think you're going to advance any further than this?

>>513592015
You're delivering grubhub on a scooter jeet

>>513592734
In his position it's difficult to advance unless you're willing to move states to wherever a higher position opens up. The wise thing to do is get in early, kiss the right asses, work hard, be seen working harder than you actually work and keep an eye out for openings and shoot as high as you can until you cant anymore. Otherwise it's just a long slow death like anything else but with yearly raises. It's not so bad, you aint getting that lambo but you have enough to buy some toys or save up for a down payment on a place.

>>513580717
What is that in dollars?
I'm an IT monkey that just runs servers and projects. 3 years doing helpdesk at various jobs until I ended up lucking my way into this job and love it since I can tinker with things all day. 67k usd/yr which is above married median income for my state. Sounds like you have a similar job or something but sounds like you are paid less than half what I get.

>>513572025
If you're not doing it now, you have to consider inflation. A 12 pack when from $3 to $10 since COVID and minimum wage is $20+ in most areas. It would be hard to make less than 50k anywhere in 2025.

>>513584084
What in the fuck is the definition of living wage in this chart? I make 85k and have 3k/month leftover after taxes and regular expenses.

>>513584084
>Needing $100k to live in Arizona

Who made this

>>513594299
>>513595185

>SmartAsset defines “comfortable” as earning enough to follow the 50/30/20 budget method, which recommends putting 50% of your income toward essentials like rent and food, 30% toward discretionary spending and 20% toward debt repayment and savings. It used the latest estimates from Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Living Wage calculator to estimate individuals’ cost of necessities in each state.

https://archive.ph/R4gLk

>>513595287
>20% toward debt
I see the problem. If you're not retarded you can live comfortably on far less than that chart would imply.

>>513592734
Not higher necessarily, i don't really want to climb any corporate ladders or anything. Although in my market, there is opportunity for advancement. If you're willing to move to a different area. The best I am hoping for is a position in food services which is selling in fountain machines or some kind of remote job.
Our division has gone through a lot of changes over the last year. And it's really created opportunities if you're willing to take them

>>513571497 (OP)
Worked 3 years stacking shelves at woolworths.
I wanted to kill myself after 3 months.
And even in ten years time you'll still be making the same amount of money as the new guy.

Get a degree or a trade you fucking idiots.

>>513595287
>20% toward debt repayment

Hmmmmm

I make 120 after taxes, with no overtime. cop. yeehaw buddies

>>513597793
>Hmmmmm
Go ahead and ponder what happens to the System if people cannot service their Debt. (Student loans / auto loans / cc debt)

If you answered:
>People like me will bitch about the Deadbeats not paying back their Loans
>The System collapses, and the Taxpayer has to bail out Banks and such
then you win a donut.

>>513571497 (OP)
Yeah cause women fuck the guy who stocks groceries.
Money barely matters when you aren’t even looked at as human to Foids.
He probably lives comfortably in an apt with vidya, porn and goyslop while driving a civic ‘being on his own’ but get absolutely 0 pussy. It’s like a ticking time bomb until a mental breakdown at age 28.

>>513571989
keep coping poorfag

>>513572066
Loser night freight job at Home Depot in San Diego pays 23 an hour. All the Redneck military wind up at HD since no one else wants them around

>>513571497 (OP)
study something worthwhile moron. College is a scam for 90%.

>>513571815
>graduate at 22 making $13 an hour at a pool
>sales gig big boy city job $35,000 salary with OTE $70k (first years 50k, I tracked for 53K lol commission sales income gets taxed 25%)
>leave that in a fury/long night of the soul at 24
>logistics company signs me at $55k with $5k signing bonus
>it's a complete daycare scam not real job, nigger daycare, woman daycare, total just out of the sorority HR girls torture me
>stay for 6 months just quit one lunch break
>work at a bar
>work at a pool
>work pizza place or 2
>I have two bachelor degrees in history and poli sci just didn't want to teach it's awful
I delivered pizza this last year and got fired for a customer complaint, wasn't really justfiied. Totally blackpilled. Getting my RE liscense tho moved home with folks, turn 28 friday
C est La vie I have health, smoke, drink, game, pets, parents, family, a few friends (at least the bad ones are gone)
it got better, I guess you accept getting worse
oh this whole time too btw I was an ultra running GATE groomed theatre speaker who probably would be where Nick is rn, they had me on school broadcast it was a whole thing. I think they made a bunch of us, the feds, or whatever the oversight on education was, I think it mattered idk. I am glad I'm not I don't have the balls. I chose quiet. I chose to run

Remember that Amazon guy who just threw al the packages in a ravine lol. I'd throw all the soda in the river and blame Indians

>>513598097
Women fuck anything, stop coping you sound like you knock cocks around for fun

In San Diego Pepsi requires people to be merchandisers for a few years before they allow a transfer into the warehouse side of thing. The Frito Lay jobs are harder to get.

>>513575609
Leave

>>513581866
You’re making the opposite point brainlet

>>513599664
Who cares man. I’m the same but older. Easier said than done but don’t let it bother you and don’t explain yourself to people.

>>513573396
Why do you retards think we get paid a lot? Our cost of living is infinitely higher than yours. At the end of the day 90% of Americans have less money than 90% of euros.

I am very happy he makes more than me, I think he should make more than most white collar jobs, I think he should make more even.

Lockdowns made it clear who was essential, I think we still need fake jobs to keep idiots busy... but those who are essential need to be paid morr than fake idiots clogging the system.

He should earn more, be able to buy a home and if anyone should reproduce in this shit hole universe then he should be the one to do so and those like him.

>>513571497 (OP)

>“ I don’t want a nation of thinkers, i want a nation of workers “ - Rockerfeller

One way to dumb down the people.
Increase they payment of the workforce and lower that of the thinking side. So that everyone chases the money.

>>513571497 (OP)
I have a part time job that pays 36/h. overtime after 5 hours. I normally work 7 hour days but can easily get more if I want. considering everything
>Basically no training required. just physical work
>High job security. Impossible to get fired when you're in a union and just doing bare minimum makes you a prized employee over the pajeet slaves
>My expenses are extremely minimal.
>Sometimes I just don't even show up for work without even texting my "boss"
>Management knows I'm the one turning people racist at work. But won't do shit. Either because they can't prove it. or they like me and also hate the pajeets they have to hire. (I believe both are true)
I'm honestly doing pretty fucking well. I make way more than I need. And I have options incase I decide to leave. I can go back into welding, which has become an oversaturated field. Or I can take up my brothers offer to work with him on one of the major rail companies of Canada (This I want to do more for the chance to splattering pajeets, and less for the large pay it comes with. the pay not much of an incentive when I don't care about money)

>>513579790
there are also many types of engineering. you dont study “engineering” lmao larping faggot. prob make 4k a year

>>513602154
>36/h in leaf buxs.
What's that in real money?

>>513581152
That's a big paycheck

>>513585437
An "optimal" situation for a neet is to be coasting on a trust fund or passive income. Dummy.

>>513581745

God that sounds almost identical to what it was like back when I worked retail, except I was on the customer service end and I was in management. We would hire the dumbest niggers straight out of high school or just off the street, and dealing with them was insufferable at best.

>>513571497 (OP)
Being an artist must still be worth it.

The bad thing is that Jews are no longer helping people of color.

>>513572745
>Plumbers can start their own thing pretty damn easily

As someone going through the insurance accreditation process (didn't even know this retarded shit was a thing) for my fucking work van, kindly shut the fuck up.

>>513571497 (OP)
The best time to graduate from college was before 2007. After that, it went downhill

>>513582313
>And now you probably make 10000 per month in switzerland.
Then 90% of that goes into rent and groceries

>>513596178
>>513597793
>what are mortgages?

>>513580715
put me on bro

>>513584088
>for almost 20 year
That's the thing, you got in early

>>513571497 (OP)
Because going to college isn't just about making money but also setting up good habits, challenging yourself, making connections, having fun, new experiences, becoming independent, and I guess learning so you can have some knowledge/skills for a career?

Also only poor minded or NGMI types care about """wages""".
Wages are taxed at a higher rate than cap gains, distributions, dividends, or just about everything else.
Professionals know it's the benefits/bonuses/commission/equity rather than the wages that matter.
The business/investor/wealthy folks know to avoid W-2 income if possible.

I literally """"paid"""" myself around $30K a year 1st 10 years of work and recently upped it to the $40K range.
My net worth is probably around $4-8M right now.

>>513571497 (OP)
rarther than be a wage slave you should just rob banks or some shit like in HEAT(1998) and be real cool like that or kill cops or something idk just live like an animal and eat raw meat

>>513571497 (OP)
I made 230 last year

>college sucks so much, you should do menial labor!!
Funny seeing this talking point in the past few years keep being repeated. 5-10 years from now it'll be (more) oversaturated with tards murdering each other to make $15/hr.

>>513592015
>phd in math
LOL
such old meme you damn boomer

>>513599664
how can you have two degrees and be this fucking retarded

>>513601123
if they ever fucking lockdown again im going to buy an electric car and either become ubereats or move states to live with rednecks

>>513571497 (OP)
More specialised knowledge means that you can get better working conditions and more stable salery.
That being said, I still prefered when i worked a deadend manual labour job making 400k a year

>>513608424
I personally found his life story to be very compelling. Being gainfully employed with benefits? Wow that's some faggot shit, I would rather smoke weed and deliver pizza as a grown man instead.

>>513580717
Yeah, fruit packers and completely unspecialized construction workers, that is carrying buckets of clay around, earn the same as most degrees.

However that has to do with the extremely saturated markets, what are we supposed to do with all the accountants and business administrators when they outnumber businesses themselves?

Craftsmen and technicians like plumbers, electricians, carpenters, insulation technicians and such on the other hand can make that salary in a day.

>>513608547
fuck oath I'd work chief septic pipe licker for 400k a year.

>>513571497 (OP)
they start at 4 in the morning and have multiple layers of bosses they have to deal with per store
>t. used to exert my authority on these sloth cunts who thought they could just come and go as they pleased when we had specific objectives they had to accomplish, per agreements with their companies

>>513591281
>chimped out
>Flag
Checks out

>>513608761
It's in dkk, i was too lazy to convert it to euro or dollars.
It's roughly 62K dollars

>>513590903
it is currently year 3 of "ai is replacing all jobs in two weeks" and not even your fucking uber is driving itself yet.

>>513591779
>job requirements: english MUST be your second language

>>513572335
The tuition is still less than £30,000 in the UK for an average degree, where they get you is the student accommodation rents which is more than the tution.

>>513572768
so basically waste your time because it's worthless, got it
you utter fucking subhuman

>>513571989
jewish search engines arent phasing out shelf stockers slow your role anon

>>513610878
welcome to the jewish messianic age christians helped them build. because living in a garden of eden was too offensive, they need jews to tell them what to do. deplete the planet of its resources while everyone becomes a soulless thrall getting babysat by jews
i wonder how many generations of pharoah larp it will take to realize their lives are miserable and meaningless now. tikkun olam past the point of no return. when doing nothing wouldve been preferable to you having involved yourself, you know you might be jewish

>>513575549
I don't feel like wearing shoe polish and changing my name to Jaquavius though.

From my time working at a grocery store, my understanding of the best jobs there are as follows:

>Meat department
Union job getting paid significantly more than the other departments
>Beer restocker
Outside company that was also a union position in my state, I'd imagine they're getting paid better than the chip and soda people.
>Unloader
Fork lift certified meme, don't deal with customers, paid decently.
>Night manager
Lord of the shelf stockers. Guy who had the job at my store was cool, would blast slayer over the sound system and didn't need to act like a dick to impress other management because they weren't there.

>>513572270
>I am 72

$52,000/year is like $2200/mo after taxes.

This was OK money when an apartment was $600 a month and a 5 year old car was $5000.

>>513605857
Fuck you, nigger. What a dickhead reply.

>>513616793
Lol poor neets are never true neets. Only rich or nepo neets are the god of neets. One day I shall achieve that dream of being a rich neet, fucking fat nerd bitches and watching anime all day incel nigga

>>513571815
not anymore, gramps

>>513616303
Our wages will go up... right?

>>513591028
we made SAP software for medical companies, as well as food and clothing companies, which allowed to process data from machinery and keep things smooth, if our software breaks for 2 hours hundreds of thousands of medical supplies won't be produced, but i guess i should be paid the same as a faggot stocking soda on the supermarket with no high school diploma right?
>>513593554
yea, it s similar job, but in shitaly you get paid in peanuts, i want to move here in switzerland asap