Thread 514935915

Hey look, it's the ONLY thing Christkoshers can talk about.

>>514935915 (OP)
Nobody believes this except for CI guys and there's only 4 of them total.

>>514935915 (OP)
I wonder if jesus kept kosher or that he would eat just about any food

>>514936007
Was Mary Magdalene's cunt kosher?

>>514936346
That's inappropriate

>>514936346
Is Mary M a good chef?

>>514936007
jesus' diet consisted solely of his own semen. it's the source of his strength but that's been scrubbed from the satanic Scofield bible

If only you knew how bad things really are

>>514937055
Holy shit you're fucked up.

>>514937175
There used to be more terrorism, since 4chan exist terrorism dissappeared, i think this is because terrorist actually are idealists and dont wanna be entertainment for people like here on 4chan

The moment something happens
People will ask for a stream weblink and will open a bag of cheetos

>>514937175
Terrorism has a function in society it keeps people from stepping out of line
Scary the living daylight out of the people is very good and sexy

In belgium people used to random handgrenade a bus stop

You dont see that anymore

>>514935915 (OP)
Christkoshers on /pol/ also think Jesus wasn't jewish, they are functionally RETARDED.

>>514937499
Im gonna say he wasnt. Even though his mom was of such lineage

>>514937175
>not a Borborite
jej

>>514937528
>Stupid Christkosher on /pol/ denies Jesus was Jewish
Of course, you guys can't admit you worship a jew.

>>514935915 (OP)
>Christkoshers
Why do you jews make up words instead of using real words?

>>514935915 (OP)

They'll do anything but praise the Lord. Stay focused.

>>514937722
THINK STUPID JEWFAG, THINK.

>>514937773
No my reasoning is far higher than that but i wont disclose, because also my reasoning is if you dont know by now youre not going to know for a very long time(eg your soul is going through a very very long purge time probably it still may be in your hands to no go through that though i dont know about that)

You should know by now about jesus and why i would say hes not a jew
My reasoning should be a second nature to you if you dont youre already in dire straights. I wish you good luck on whats coming

>>514937860
>>514937955
>More copes from the Christkosher
Jesus was a jew, you guys do everything you can to deny it but it's a simple fact. Go fuck yourself, faggot.

Why are /pol/tards entirely consumed with loving atheism now? Is it because the godless brown masses finally learned to read at 20 years old and are seething about the beauty of the old and righteous world that would have typically erased them from existence?

>>514937535
What that fuck does that even mean? You said Jesus did that, now you're saying some weird cult that claimed to be Christian engaged in semen drinking like you do. So which is?

>>514935985
Christkikes have done this in every single thread I have seen them be challenged in. You state the obvious fact that their religion came from jews and judaism and without fail they start spewing pilpul about how actually christianity is older than judaism because actually jews are canaanites/khazars/whatever and appeared in 1000AD and actually christkeks are the real original israelites and they weren't jews they were abrahamics and blah blah schizobabble.

>>514938168
They know more about it than you do.

>>514938121
My position is not atheism. I just don't want to follow a jewish religion with a jew as the messiah. Not for me.
>>514938168
It's only /pol/ though that even denies that Jesus was JEWISH. And then they trot out the same talking points and images over and over again. As if that's going to change the fact that Jesus was jewish (it won't).

>>514938121
No one loves atheism. We just hate you kike worshippers practicing a majority spic/nigger religion that came from nonwhite kikes in the middle east.

>>514938223
>they know more about kike lore than you do
Not the le epic own you think it is lil' bro.

>>514935915 (OP)
If you're so concerned about race over truth, then I can assure you non-whites are still the majority in hell.
https://www.enjoyhell.com/

>>514937175
god will be the judge of that, pal

>>514938344
>muh hell
You literally stole the word and concept from Germanics you fucking nigger thief.

>>514938374
God's will be done, fren.

>>514935915 (OP)
In all Heaven and Earth
In all that existed and will exist for all of Eternity

I, alone, am the chosen ONE of God.

>>514935985
Non-CI christians still think they're the true jews (in spirit) and that non-christian jews are no longer jews (in spirit), so the promises yahweh made to his tribe (the jews) is only valid if they believe in a specific extraordinary historical claim without evidence but also now the hated goyim are the beneficiaries of those promises if they believe the specific extraordinary historical claim.
At least the CI shit isn't so fucking abstract.

>>514936007
He lived entirely according to jew traditions, and the apostles still kept away from gentiles after his death (it's a myth, but whatever), so it would be highly unlikely that he didn't.

>>514937813
>Why do you jews make up words instead of using real words?
What word do you end your prayers with?

>>514938121
>if you don't worship the jewish tribal god you're an atheist
literally no u

>>514938223
My local priest says that I probably know the bible better than him.
And Finanon said nothing wrong.

>>514935915 (OP)
Jews aren't white.
Fuck off.

>>514938397
The christian concept of hell is based on the Greco-Roman Tartaros, which is non-existent in judaism (jews barely believe in an afterlife at all) and not really explained in the new testament.
Christianity has committed the despicable sin of conflating Hades/Hel (the afterlife for normies) with Tartaros (the deepest pits of hell where the absolute worst of the worst go to get tortured), while also insisting that you can get to Elysium/Valhal by obeying jews (you can't).
They've made two out of what was three, and made themselves the gatekeepers of the best option.

The word 'hell' comes, as you say, from the Germanic 'Hel', but it means the same thing as Hades. We don't know if the Germanics had a concept of Tartaros or not, but it is likely.

>>514939112
>while also insisting that you can get to Elysium/Valhal by obeying jews
How are Christians obeying jews exactly. Be clear. I have a follow up question based on your answer.

>>514939448
I'll have to assume you haven't read the bible since you're asking this question, so we'll do it in baby steps.
Let's start with "saint" "Paul" (ie. Saul of Tarsus of Cilicia). He is the primary author of the new testament, and is a pharisaic rabbi mohel jew according to his own words.

>>514939598
He also killed and persecuted Christians and then became one, according to his own words. So where is the part that explains that Christians must obey jews to get into heaven. That was your claim. Get to it. Use baby language so I can understand, okay.

>>514935915 (OP)
Predictive History

Watch his new video.

>>514939800
His claims are irrelevant to his ethno-cultural identity.
Do you concede that he is a pharisaic rabbi mohel jew, yes or no?

>>514939873
>His claims
*his theological claims

>>514935985
CI posters are a majority of the Christcucks on here

>>514939962
Myths are based on real historical events.

>>514939873
Sure, his claims have nothing to do with his ethic and cultural identity. How about just making your whole argument. My question was again, where is the part that explains that Christians must obey jews to get into heaven?

>>514935915 (OP)
Real israelites are the current Palestine and Jordan now.

>>514940074
You're expecting me to spoonfeed something incredibly obvious to you, so at least answer the question so I make sure that we're on the same page.
Do you concede that the primary author of the new testament is a pharisaic rabbi mohel jew, yes or no?

>>514938246
Not really most Christian throughout history believed he wasn’t Jewish as in the religion, he was only hostile to towards proto-Jews and modern rabbinic Judaism came afterwards. He was definitely closer to a Jew or Arab than a Nordic Euro though anyone else is coping. At best he was we close to a Greek/Balkans/Leb/Syrian,

>>514940153
We just established that would have no impact on his claims and yes I conceded that fact. What the fuck is wrong with you? Move the argument along. Are you just stalling for time?

>>514940074
Abrahamic religions are the false ones.

This is what God looks like.

>>514936007
Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”

>>514940216
>Jewish as in the religion
That's called judaism. Jews are an ethnos.
>At best he was we close to a Greek/Balkans/Leb/Syrian,
If he wasn't jewish he can't be the biblical messiah, who has to be of the line of judah (from where we get the word jew), and has to be rejected by his own (the jews) etc.
>>514940232
You seem very upset. Need a break already?
>yes
Good. Do you concede that most, if not all, of the other authors of the new testament are explicitly jewish or most likely to be jewish?

>>514940292
Based idolator.

>>514940292
Cool theory bro. I'll keep that in mind.

>>514940352
Yes. So since you are unable to just spell it out. Your argument is, jews wrote the books in the bible therefore Christians obey jews. Is that what you're getting at?

>>514940466
>Yes.
Great progress, I'm glad we're establishing common ground for this important theological point. Since you agree with me, I wonder why you even need to ask your initial question. Anyway, allow me a final question:
If a christians wishes to do what he can to go to heaven, what is the ethnos of the authors of the instructions he follows?

>>514940345
>Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them.
sounds pretty gay not gonna lie

>>514940613
So we are going the with the other angle. Salvation is free gift given from God. Faith in Jesus is the only real requirement.

Question for you. What were the jews before they became jews? Abraham was a pagan that became a know as a jew much later.

>>514940794
You didn't answer my question. Maybe you missed it. I'll repeat it for your convenience:
>If a christians wishes to do what he can to go to heaven, what is the ethnos of the authors of the instructions he follows?

>>514940425
>>514940216
He learned how to reverse Neoteny here in america...or his descendant did.

>>514940854
Faith in Christ. Sorry if it wasn't clear.

The demiurge is the one who created white people.

>>514935915 (OP)
Did you know the holocaust never happened and the 6 million dead jews myth has been a lie that's persisted for centuries?

>>514938029
>Jesus was a jew
Was.
Then they nailed him to a tree and he came back to call them children of the devil and now kikes still seethe 2000 years later.

>>514940922
>pretending to not know the difference between ethnicity and ideology to dodge the question
Slowly I began to hate them.

I'm unsure for what purpose.

>>514941158
Sounds like you are full of hate fren. It's clouding your judgement. Still don't see anything like an argument. Just a couple of questions that look like desperate attempts to buy time, then the beginnings of a sperg out. Lay out your argument like a proper White man.

>>514941116
Christkoshers, when desperate, will use the "they nailed him to a cross lmao" as the final cope. But Jesus was still JEWISH nothing can change that.

>>514941320
>pilpul question dodging
>you are full of haaaaate
ahahahahahahaha
you proxy-yids are too funny
>the Socratic dialogue isn't White because I don't want to admit the extremely obvious fact that christians follow the instructions given to them by jews on how to get to heaven
zozzle

>>514941417
I answered everyone of your questions, and you answered none of mine, as the record will show. You do realize that all of this stuff is online for everyone to see, right?

>>514941488
>I answered everyone of your questions
Taquiya. Answer this:
>If a christians wishes to do what he can to go to heaven, what is the ethnos of the authors of the instructions he follows?

>>514941488
1488. Would you look at those blessed digits. Bet you wish you had those.

>>514941613
>Taquiya.
Kek. That muslim bullshit. And I've answered that question twice now. It's dishonest to say differently. For the third time. Deal with the answer I give you. FAITH IN CHRIST(JESUS).

>>514941618
>>514941488
Checked, but I wonder why in the world you would want them. If you ever finish reading the bible, you ought to give this one a read. In fact, you could even just forgo the jewish texts entirely.

>>514941730
>That muslim bullshit.
All the followers of the god of abraham are the same to me.
>And I've answered that question twice now.
You have not, you performative queer. Answer this post with the name of an ethnos - and nothing else - or be ignored.
>If a christians wishes to do what he can to go to heaven, what is the ethnos of the authors of the instructions he follows?

>>514935915 (OP)
Is there anything worse than jews?

>>514941852
John 14:
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also.d From now on you do know him and have seen him.”

Sorry I thought you said Ethos. There is no ethnos that you have to follow to get into heaven. No where will you find that. Show me the verse. It would have made more sense if you did say Ethos, you can understand my mistake.

>>514942177
>Sorry I thought you said Ethos.
I said ethnicity at least once too. Read slower.
>There is no ethnos that you have to follow to get into heaven.
That's not what I'm asking. Read slower:
>If a christians wishes to do what he can to go to heaven, what is the ethnos of the authors of the instructions he follows?

Now, I have extended good faith, but if the first word of your next reply isn't the ethnos of the authors that you've already conceded anyway, I am going to ignore you.

>>514941390
>jesus was
Yes, was. Past tense rampreet, you esl faggot. Has licking all that israeli anus affected your reading comprehension?

>>514942375
We already explored this. They were jews. You don't have to follow any ethnicity to get into heaven. Yes all of the early Christian writers were jews. There were no Christians until Christ. Wow. I asked you if this was you argument and you pretend it wasn't that's why I thought you were talking about ethos. Just lay out your whole argument. What is wrong with you. A+B+C = X.

>>514941933
A pajeet may smell and eat shit and be a pest and a vermin and a plague but i think jews raping kids and cannibalizing them is a bit worse than being an insufferable nigger they are close though.
But jews are still way worse than any other living thing on the face of the earth

>>514942614
>They were jews.
Good. So that answers your original question then.
>You don't have to follow any ethnicity to get into heaven.
But you have to follow instructions written by jews, which was the point I made that you had questions about.
>Just lay out your whole argument.
No. I'm conversing, not monologuing. It's a European tradition.

>>514942831
>But you have to follow instructions written by jews
No, we follow the instructions of early Christians from the life of Jesus. That why you dodge my question about when jews became jews, and proves you are not really even trying to have a conversation. Considered this. Some jews rejected Christ others didn't. Are you still a jew if you accept Christ? Jews today and then would say no.

>>514942600
Well, he did die thousands of years ago, he lived as a quintessentially JEWISH man. His memory and legacy are jewish, everything about Jesus is JEWISH. Christkoshers seethe when this is mentioned.

>>514938728
wrong. jesus told the apostles they should eat with gentiles. when some of the apostles went back to segregating paul reminded them that christ taught that everyone can be saved and not to be jewish about it. it's in paul's letters you fucking trash.

>>514943090
>No, we follow the instructions of early Christians from the life of Jesus.
Nonsense. Christians aren't an ethnos, and Saul never knew "the life of jesus".
You've already agreed that they were jews. This is a moot point.
>That why you dodge my question
Nonsense. I've just refused to change the topic from your initial one. But I'm happy to now that we've agreed that the new testament is a bunch of instructions written by jews.
> Are you still a jew if you accept Christ?
Of course. As are Ethiopians or Danes or Koreans.
>Jews today and then would say no.
Jews say lots of stuff, but their opinions are irrelevant to the matter of ethno-genetics. Conversos, marranos, early christians, etc are all jews. There are liberal atheist marxist jews. Jews have lots of different ideologies (almost all of them being jewish in origin though).

You're arguing civnat magic dirt theory to /pol/tards in 2025. Come on now.

>>514943289
>the apostles never kept away from gentiles you fucking trash
>the apostles kept away from gentiles until saul changed their mind you fucking trash
I have encountered the e-crusade's strongest warrior! What will I do!?

>>514943090
>Are you still a jew if you accept Christ?
In fact, if you were already a jew ethnically, accepting the jewish messiah means you remain fully jewish according to saul.
If a goy accepts christ, he becomes a spiritual jew according to saul.
According to saul, a jew that doesn't accept christ is no longer spiritually jewish.
You've got it literally inverted.

>>514943338
>Nonsense. Christians aren't an ethnos
Yes we are. It's our ethos. One in Christ.

>race, race, race, ree, ree, ree
It see you are only interesting in the racial element. Then I guess all of the jews gave up their race when they became Christians because even Paul said:
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

>>514943690
>ethnos
>ethos
Listen, I can't cure your dyslexia. Unfuck yourself.
>It see you are only interesting in the racial element.
That is the topic. I am only interested in the topic. That's how conversations work.
>Then I guess all of the jews gave up their race
No such thing, also see >>514943673

>>514943818
Your an idiot. Read it slower. It makes sense.

> accepting the jewish messiah means you remain fully jewish according
Where does he say that. Back up what you say at least, even in a "conversation"

>>514943818
Alright I can't keep spoon feeding you on how to actually conduct yourself like a proper White man. You can even follow what I'm saying. You keep moving this "conversation" nowhere, while having an underserved smugness. Then I have to wait a half hour a troll response.

>>514943950
>Your an idiot.
*You're
>I'm not accidentally switching the words this time, I'm doing it on purpose
I understand what you're saying just fine, but you can't keep obfuscating the difference between ideas and blood willy nilly and expect anything reasonable.
Lenin is a marxist jew.
Saul is a christian jew.
Shapiro is a judaic jew.
Simple as.
>Where does he say that.
You become spiritually jewish (ie. your ideology is now jewish) by accepting the messiah. Read your damn bible.
>>514944159
>I have to wait a half hour
It's been seven minutes. I had to wait eight minutes between this >>514943338 and this >>514943690

You're a loon mate.

>>514944284
>Your
Kek. Really. I made several other grammar errors as well. I guess that means I'm dumb.
>Read your damn bible.
Give a verse. Idiots tell other people to read things without pointing to specifics. I've read the Bible, I will take you at your word that you have as well. I don't get the same misguided interpretation as you. Please show me the verses that lead you to your conclusion. I've laid out a few. I would expect a intelligent White man to do the same.

>>514944471
>I guess that means I'm dumb.
Yes, by definition.
>I would expect a intelligent White man to do the same.
*an
>Give a verse.
Your literacy appears insufficient to conduct textual analysis, and I've already spoonfed you a great amount. If you've read your bible, you'd recognize the topics I'm referencing. If not, you can VERY easily look them up yourself. This isn't some esoteric interpretation. It's literally the mainstream christian position across all three primary denominations.
Unless you have any questions that you can't easily look up or ask your pastor about, feel free to leave me to it.

>>514944848
>Your literacy appears insufficient to conduct textual analysis
There is that undeserved smugness while acting in bad faith. Peace. Everyone that every cares to read this. The thread speaks for itself.

>>514935915 (OP)
Memes aside, why are the christcucks here the most schizophrenic ITS DA JOOZ type? It doesn't make sense, why are the people who see da jooz everywhere, accuse everyone of being a joo, can't see something as obvious as their own religion and messiah being jewish? Anyone have any explanation for why this is?

>>514945110
Mental illness and internet larping do not mix very well. They want to play the crusader, pro-white internet personality but they can't handle Jesus being jewish. Christkoshers live in a world of contradictions.

>>514944955
>The thread speaks for itself.
It sure does. As does the bible.

>>514945110
Stockholm syndrome, convert's zeal and a justified disdain for modernity, combined with just enough IQ to see the superficial parts of the JQ, but not enough to look at the underlying causes and mechanisms.
It's just the nature of bell curves.

>>514945240
Takes you an hour to post a single out of context verse after you think I've left. Do we only read one verse or are there several that we draw from as Christians? It's like reading one stencene in the middle of the novel and think you know the whole plot. For instance, the verse I posted before that you ignored. How would address the verse I posted earlier? Because in context, the verse you presented only states that they "share" (Somethings are similar but not the most important things.) When you read all of the context with all of the other relevant verses you will see that Christians are all one in Christ.

>>514945240
>>514945736

Just to but a point on it. You "share" similar dna with a nigger. Does that make you a nigger?

>>514941488
Checkeddddd

>>514945736
>Takes you an hour to post a single out of context verse after you think I've left.
Six minutes. You're off by an order of magnitude.
Does your dyslexia affect numbers too? What is that called?

>>514945837
>Does that make you a nigger?
Me? No. You? That would explain a lot.

>>514946046
Fuck it took you 3 hours this time. Lame.
You Didn't respond to any of the relevant information. Shit talking is fine but it has to be backed up. You can insult me but at least show that you're not scared, by answering the questions, with your undeserved smugness of course.

>>514946177
You owned yourself. I guess if you're not a nigger, then Christianity isn't jewish. Please don't make me re explain why this is the case. Read the conversation carefully.

>>514937813
A part of the the talmud is not using a real name to insult people. It's why Jesus is purposely misspelled in posts here on /pol/.

>>514939112
>jews barely believe in an afterlife at all
Thinks modern kikes are theologically the same as people in the past
LOL

>>514936346
First thing I'm asking Big JC when I see him.

>>514935915 (OP)
You're seething Greenstein

>>514946956
>Thinks modern kikes are theologically the same as people in the past
Completely irrelevant. Show me a complex understanding of the afterlife in the bible that rivals the Greco-Roman or Egyptian one.

>>514935915 (OP)
Based

>>514947349
>Show me a complex understanding of the afterlife in the bible that rivals the Greco-Roman or Egyptian one.
What afterlife is there to understand?

>>514935915 (OP)
Die you demon nigger.

>>514935915 (OP)
>>514935985
The funniest thing about (((christian identity))) is that ALL christcucks INSIST that jews could not have fabricated their religion for them. And that their religion is an organic outgrowth of jew magic and other crap jews wrote about.

But meanwhile, with (((christian identity))), we have a direct, certified, historically-documented example of actual fucking jewish rabbi zionists and philosemites fabricating a theology/religion. (((christian identity))) was created by jews and philosemites to convince the British to give Palestine to jews. That was its goal. And it worked, via the Balfour Declaration.

So if the jews can entirely make up a religion like (((christian identity))) and have actual fucking retards believe in it, why couldn't they have made up the entirety of christianity? That's the logical next step, isn't it? They wrote every single book in the bible.

But no, you cannot get through to them on this. They refuse to listen, even though its obvious.

>>514935915 (OP)
The funny thing is even in the context of their gay Jewish fairytales, Jesus is very clearly not the Messiah, given he didn't fulfil a single Messianic prophecy.

>>514947596
>What afterlife is there to understand?
Case in point.

>>514935915 (OP)
Meanwhile you spiritually inept larpers repeat "Jesus was a jew" 6 gorillion times despite being explained the reality of the situation countless times.

>>514948802
>the reality of the situation
meanwhile, the reality:

>>514948802
Meanwhile, he calls himself a jew in john 4:22 and Matthew 1:1 is his jewish lineage. I guess we'll just ignore the entire rest of the NT which has him trying to be the jewish "moshiach".

>>514935915 (OP)
>doesn't want to talk about topic
>endlessly makes threads on it
OP is a seething kike seething that the goyim figured it out

>>514948867
Napoleon was black because he was from France and black people live in France in 2025. You absolute buffoon.

>>514948884
>>514949164

>>514949164
I'm sure you think you made a salient point, but you didn't. Jews were an ethnically distinct people of brownoids back then, to the point Romans could identify them visually. Kind of like how we still can today, wow

>>514938728
Jewishy-Washy.

>>514949164
Can you remind me, where exactly does Napoleon say: "Salvation [from the black tribal deity] is from the blacks"?

>>514949241
No shit, you can tell different types of Europeans apart. Now explain why a historically pastoral group of people have a high incidence of lactose intolerance.

>>514949674
>goatherding bandits don't drink cow's milk so therefore we wuz genitally mutilating megalomanic usury parasites
Please do as your rabbi says and don't breed.

>>514938246
It absolutely is atheism. You don't believe in pagan gods. There's no need to lie. Be true to yourself.

>>514949531
The point went over your head. Jesus was 100% a Jew, but "jew" now refers to a different ethnic group that now inhabits israel who "Say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

>>514949960
I never made that argument, retard.
The jesus character is of the mythological line of judah, making him a jew, transmitted to you by a circumcised pharisaic rabbi mohel jew.
At no point did I bring up modern jewry.
>>514949862
I do. Now what?

>>514951276
Nice backpedal. The overwhelming implication when you talk about jews is that you are referring to modern jewry. Using it in any other way is misleading unless you clarity.

Came down there absolutely externally onto cutlets at cult to turn your world upside-down with One Guy once before, and it is perfect. Now get oneguyed by each and every Anon when here, working for the 4channers, as we do it all over again. (Sandal on ((((head)))) again that is).
>>514935915 (OP)

>>514951658
>schizo strawman

>>514949862
You don't get to dictate anything, christkosher. Just because I don't want to follow a jew doesn't mean I don't believe there is more to the universe than flesh and bone. To look at everything we currently know and think that's all there is to everything is just ridiculous.

>>514943268
>jeseus was jewish
>jews still violently seethe about jesus and his followers
What did jeetkikes mean by this?

>>514949862
In the christcucks mind there only exists three positions, if you're not a christcuck you're a gaytheist or larpgan. This is basically the only proof you need of how unaware and retarded christcucks are.

>>514949960
>but "jew" now refers to a different ethnic group that now inhabits israel who "Say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
No dummy, it had nothing to do with ethnicity. It was that Pharisees weren't following the teachings properly.

When Jesus confronted them it was always about what they were preaching and teaching

>>514952358
Does it not occur to you that infighting exists? How could it possibly be an indication of anything if there are schisms and a group hates another group cut from the same cloth when that's literally the case everywhere? Christians hate other Christians, Muslims hate other Muslims, Europeans hate other Europeans, socialists hate other socialists, and Jews hate other Jews. Christcucks are so fucking stupid it hurts, you are the perfect judaic golems, immune to any logic.

>>514952358
>The christkosher is back with another dumb idea
Jesus is still jewish, even if it is a fact that other jews may not like him.

>>514952871
>other jews
*some jews
All the early christians were jews, so clearly plenty of jews liked him (or rather, the myth about him).

>>514952919
Jews are schizos who rejected multiple messiahs and are still waiting on one. Worst of all, christcucks actually believe in this messianic nonsense coming from Jews and believe one of the schizo Jews who thought he was God.

>>514953064
Believe in*

>>514949674
and there it is, every single time it's completely baffingly retarded tidbits like this that reveal the absolute utter subhumanity of christians, choosing the absolutely most retarded hills to die on that an elementary understanding of the matter would dispel

>>514953064
Technically the schizo jew of the period who thought he was the messiah was Bar Kokba. Yeshua is a midrashic character and never existed, and the early jews who created him didn't really claim he was yahweh, just that he was the or a messiah. The trinity thing came later.
Christians do all believe a circumcised pharisaic rabbi mohel jew though, this much cannot be debated.

>>514953180
>arabs are as lactose tolerant as me
wait for real?

>>514953317
there are lactase persistence mutations different from the European one

>>514953180
What is this supposed to prove

>>514953387
1. lactose tolerance isn't exclusive to Europeans
2. lactose tolerance isn't needed for a pastoral diet and lifestyle as you can infer from the entirety of goddamn central Asia, milk byproducts usually have much less lactose content and people with average human tolerance can live from it with 0 issues

>>514944964
>>514937175
what's wrong with this? every jewish man eats his own semen when if he has an errant ejaculation in sleep or forgets himself and succumbs to sin. We've been doing it for thousands of years. It's called "Hotza'at Zera Levatalah"

baka, why do goyim think implying jesus participating in basic parts of the culture he lived and died in is somehow anti-Jesus? Do you know anything about your savior? LMAO

OP btfo by lactose intolerancy discussion itt

>>514953574
CI retards be like
archaeology?
linguistics?
history?
genetics?
yikes, here's some retarded tidbit about lactose tolerance blowing the 4 disciplines above out of the water and changing everything

>>514953384
Very cool datapoint. Did not know. Thanks.
>>514953387
That you're an idiot for not getting the ramifications.

>>514953485
1. Irrelevant to the argument
2. I never claimed that lactose is strictly necessary for a pastoral lifestyle, but rather that it is one factor that suggests a historical pastoral lifestyle. Central Asians have significant admixture from East Asia, which explains the intolerance.

I love being Christian so fucking much. I love watching these idiots sperg out over JESUS WAS JEWISH. I find amusement in seeing them purposely ignore the split between Jew and Christian. It's extremely funny how their brains literally only know how to process JEW = BAD. I've given up on casting pearls before swine with those type of people, they're not interested in the truth.
Meanwhile, I have the promise of eternal life, a relationship with God, and the source of joy right at my fingertips. And these dorks say I should stop enjoying these things because Jesus was Jewish. That's the extent of their logic.
Christ is King. We are Jacob. We are Israel. Jews are Esau. There is wisdom in this.

>>514953730
>Genetics

>>514954068
you brought it up because it's one of the gotchas you little monkeys learn by rote that you think has any validity whatsoever on the matter, demonstrating your don't even understand the very matter you bring into question, as usual

>>514954106
>I find amusement in seeing them purposely ignore the split between Jew and Christian
You mean the non-existent split? GTFO you pathetic Christkosher, you have nothing of value to add. Filthy swine.

>>514954170
yes ashkenazis don't have much levantine ancestry left and are mostly Roman/European mutts, but as your very own picture shows ancient israelites were sandnigger rubbish

>>514954207
Wooooah look how angry this little man is. I better reject Christ because he's so STEAMED!

>>514954106
>There is wisdom in this.
Not if you have White man IQ.

>>514954310
I'm not angry, you just came here to act superior to others and made some lazy blanket statement about the "split between jew and christian" when there is no such thing. You're filthy Christkosher swine.

and in particular, israelis are basically currently mass killing people far more similar to ancient israelites than they are

>>514954170
Whatdyaknow. Bleaching them didn't make them a more compatible people. Who could've thunk?

>>514954391
What do you believe in then, oh wise white man?
>>514954395
Jesus is superior to all. By believing in him, I have the truth. The truth is superior to falsehood. As such, believers in the truth are superior in thought to believers in lies. You don't have to be inferior in thought to me. Christ is right there.

Reminder that Both Hitler and Goebbels wouldn't allow (((atheists))) to join the ranks of the SS or military of the 3rd Reich
Just scroll through any anti christian thread to see why they made that call

>>514954106
your very own parasitic and annoyingly proselytical behavior blatantly shows you aren't happy with what you have, nobody here is against christians because the amish or mennonites exist, who mind their own business, it's because christians constantly try to steer everything European do for their own retarded cult

>>514954509
>Christkosher is using his jew religion with a jew messiah as the head to feel superior to other people
Lmao how typical.

>>514935985
>>514939962
there are like 10 christkikes total on /pol/, it just seems like more because they have a discord where they work together to brigade every thread that brings up their jewish foreskin demon or their bizarre jewish death cult belief system.

>>514954585
Just because I'm spreading my faith doesn't mean I'm unhappy. What else are you supposed to do once you have the secret of the universe? Should I just quietly accept your damnation just because my soul is saved?

>>514954597
I didn't make the universe, I just understand the rules of the game.

>>514954745
>The rules of the game are that my jew religion makes me better than other people
I doubt that's the case, Christkosher.

>>514954509
>What do you believe in then, oh wise white man?
Wiser White men.

>>514954700
your own cult leader told you to not throw pearls to swine(coming from an illiterate jew, lol) and whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you leave that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet
thanks for the message but no thanks, fuck off

>>514954515
>Reminder that Both Hitler and Goebbels wouldn't allow (((atheists))) to join the ranks of the SS or military of the 3rd Reich
Factually untrue, logistically impossible, easily disprovable. But even if it were true, they were also purging christianity from Germany, so what remains, eh?

>>514954788
That's nice, how does fighting with above replacement whites who have families and children over what they do on Sunday help the movement against international jewry?
Seems counter intuitive and just low-key anti white coded

>>514954863
Good point, you are swine and you want to trample pearls under your feet. I'll leave you to your damnation as you wish.

>>514954863
>implying e-christians have ever cracked open a bible
Bro, you know better.

>>514954994
>reading Homer is anti-white coded
You are brown and have never seen European soil. I pray that it remains so, and that you do as your rabbi commands and abstain from procreating.

>>514954783
>M-maybe if I call them "christ(fill in the blank)" for the 10th time today I'll forget about how miserable my life is

>>514954998
sure thing, be more like the amish or mennonites and you'll have a much better reputation

>>514954944
I'm sorry you feel the need to lie to push your agenda anon but history doesn't lie like you do and Himmler was right about you all

>>514955097
>Christkoshers are seething even more at the term
I like it. Following a jew religion means you're a Christkosher. It's a perfect fit.

>>514955076
>Creates strawman to dodge the actual question
Oh I see you arent gonna be honest in this discussion
Have a nice day and God bless shill anon!

>>514954788
Plato gave the allegory of the cave. I believe Christ is the one who comes back to the cave to tell the men the truth and those who deny him are the ones who believe in the shadows on the wall.

>>514954515
there is no definitive evidence of a blanket policy prohibiting atheists from serving in the SS or the broader military.

>>514955171
Whatever flavor of atheism you follow has had significant contributions by jews and is constantly being promoted by the establishment.

>>514954994
>above replacement whites who have families and children
The only White christkikes with above replacement fertility are the Amish and Mennonites and it's obvious why that's the case. The lowest fertility rates in the west can be found in trad cath countries like Poland and Malta. You are not a father, you're a dysgenic cargo culting freak obsessed with other people's kids.

>>514955668
>Whatever flavor of atheism you follow
Oxymoron. Atheism is just a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods

>>514955668
I made it clear that I do not follow atheism. Here we go with the old neckbeard memes because you Christkoshers feel attacked How pathetic. I don't think it will have the same effect though as those memes did circa 2013-2017.

>>514955682
Pot calling the kettle black, quit pretending like larpagans are anything other than chronically online incels living in their parents' basement.

>>514955774
Lol. "You can't attack my position because I don't claim to have one, so I am unassailable, but I can attack everyone else. Sorry chud, should have been a high IQ atheist like me"

>>514955774
>>514949862
Exhibit A

>>514955968
Weird strawman. Do you want to try that again?

>>514955917
>NO U
Deflecting won't help you have kids, eunuch. As a non-pagan and non-christian White man with a family and a home you can't afford my anecdotal observation is that the average screeching christfaggot on twitter and /pol/ is a shitskin goblin with vocal fry like Spic Fuentes.

>>514956035
I think I've made my point pretty clear. Do you need me to explain it again more simply or something?

>>514956017
Anyone who doesn't follow your religion is an athiest?

>>514956144
>I think I've made my point pretty clear
Well it had nothing to do with me. Don't know what argument you were addressing lol

>>514955122
>history doesn't lie
History isn't an entity, you moron.
>AI says whatever
lmao absolute retard cargo cultist
>Himmler was right
He certainly was. And he loathed christianity for being jewish proto-bolshevism.

>>514955917
while your larp version of christianity is totally connected with reality right? churches all over the west are stocking on weapons for RAHOWA right? niggers are banned from them and jews are hated inside, right? they totally aren't one of the largest groups of foot soldiers for kalergian politics, right?

>>514956220
Anyone who uses "Atheism is just a LACK of belief" is using a dishonest argument that makes the atheist position unassailable because it makes zero claims about anything. Say they don't believe in God? They'll say "It's not that I DON'T believe, it's that I LACK a belief, those are TOTALLY DIFFERENT"
It's sophistry.

>>514955214
>thinks reading Homer is anti-White coded
>expects serious replies from a White man
kekekekeke
>>514955303
>I think we should trust these or those jews
Ok. I don't.

>>514955917
I'd ask you to post childrens' toys to prove you had kids, but you probably keep them in your sketchy van you hang out by the pre-school in.

>>514956316
>Anyone who uses "Atheism is just a LACK of belief" is using a dishonest argument
Not really. I lack belief in God or gods until evidence convinces me enough to chnage my mind.

>because it makes zero claims about anything.
Correct, it's just an opinion about a question/a response to a claim


>>514956316
>claims about anything. Say they don't believe in God? They'll say "It's not that I DON'T believe, it's that I LACK a belief, those are TOTALLY DIFFERENT"
It isn't though and anyone who says that is dumb

>>514956316
Your presupposition is that the god of israel is real and there has to be a positive belief in place of that if one doesn't accept yahweh as the creator of the universe. This is the only instance you'll assert this though, since if someone said "I don't believe Santa put those presents under the tree" you wouldn't freak out and say they have to believe that some external force put the presents there kek.
>>514956431
Lol this.

>>514939112
>Non-existent in Judaism

That's because Maimonides in the Middle Ages said so.

The Jewish afterlife was modelled off of Greek-mythology because the Bible is a post-Hellenic fabrication / redaction of older literature.

Jews and Christians are just liars about this because they want to convince themselves that Judaism has never changed since the 2nd Temple Period and that it's an original historical product, not a copy and paste job

>>514956431
Why don't you post physique

>>514935915 (OP)
>constantly claims ancient Israelites are the same jews
>gets rekt over
>why do you even care?
Many such cases. Thanks for the concession.

>>514956481
I see. So are you agnostic (not claiming there is no God) or atheist (claiming there is no God)? These are the only two options to me. Some of your fellow atheists DO engage in sophistry and say "well actually you can be agnostic-atheist or atheist-atheist". Will you agree that this latter position is based on bullshit?

>>514956487
Yes, my personal belief is that The God of Israel is the living God, but my attack against the "atheism is a lack of a belief" stance applies to all religions. I don't understand the analogy to Santa at all. The stakes are completely different.

>>514956716
>So are you agnostic
Agnostic atheist. As I still lack belief
>These are the only two options to me.
It's more nuanced to me as agnostic and gnostic ate branches in both theism and atheism

>>514939112
>Hel is the same thing as Hades
It's drastically different. In Germanic mythology, yes you could consider "Hel" the "underworld" which is named after the goddess of death, similar to Hades, but it's not under the Earth like the Greeks and Jews believed in. Rather, it's a separate realm.

I'll also add that it's a place of coldness, wetness, ice, and darkness rather than one of fire and brimstone. Some versions describe it as where the Frost Giants originate from (when conflated with Niflheim)

>>514956842
Yep. You're an atheist sophist like I initially thought.

>>514956972
I'm sorry complex thought isn't for you.

Can the gaytheists and pagans lay out the plan for total aryan victory at some point or are they just going to insult the vast majority of Europeans and call them gullible retards forever? Because that seems extremely jewish.

You seem jewish

>>514956716
>The stakes are completely different.
That's just what you believe and abrahamism is really the only major set of belief systems throughout history that require such a weird arbitrary thing like accepting god as your savior to avoid eternal punishment.

>>514957018
Yep, your thought is very SOPHISTICATED friend.

>>514957251
The truth is often difficult to handle. Sorry the world isn't "do whatever you want, nothing matters, there's no sin, everyone gets into heaven". Evil exists, buddy.

>>514957266
Let me know when you have an actual argument :^)

>>514957341
>The truth is often difficult to handle
This anon means "his truth" which is just an opinion, not actual truth

>>514957359
There's no argument to be had. You win because you "lack a belief in anything, therefore don't have to prove anything". You are the big smart winner of the debate, congrats man.

>>514957341
>do whatever you want, nothing matters
The bible belt should stop being such fat gluttonous porn addicts if it matters so much.
>Evil exists
And your (((bible))) says yahweh created it lol. Because he loves you.

>>514957593
>The bible belt should stop being such fat gluttonous porn addicts if it matters so much.
100% agree. I'm disgusted by the average fellow American.

>>514935915 (OP)
Holy fuck, who cares?! Do your worship in your own home, in your own mind to whoever you want, if you even care to. Faith, religion, worship.. these should be between you and whoever it is you direct it towards, be it Odin, Jesus, or the universe its self.
What maters is culture. Social cohesion. National pride. Working for the betterment of your kin. Religion is usefull so long as it helps in this, and harmfull if it goes against it.
Fuck the niggers who would invade your lands, fuck the kikes who would sell you out for a dime, fuck the arabs whou would kill you for sport, fuck the soulless asians who would eat you without a second though, fuck the traitors who would sell their own kin for 30 pieces of silver, and fuck anyone who would do us harm. And fuck this limp risted "compassion" which has driven us so far down.

>>514957450
>There's no argument to be had
Because you don't actually have one lol

>>514958091
Okay? You already won bro, big gold crown, take the W.

>>514958261
C'mon man, have a back bone. You have no problem making claims. Can't back them up?

>>514958459
I believe in Christ, I can't prove it to you in a court of law. You're not interesting in anything besides proving that you can't prove god, which duh. I have nothing to gain from a discussion with you and it's not like you're open in the slightest to Christ, so I have nothing that I can give you either. What's the point?

>>514958592
>You're not interesting in anything
I have a lot of interest and believe in a lot of things.

Thats cool you believe in Christ. Doesn't bother me

>it's not like you're open in the slightest to Christ
I used to be a Christian. I still think Christ is a great allegory though

>What's the point?
You have no problems calling me a sophist but when it comes time to defend it, you cower.

That's all :^)

>>514956972
>Yep. You're an atheist sophist like I initially thought.
christniggers have a very difficult time understanding the definition of "agnostic" and "atheist". lmao

>>514958782
Yeah, because "Agnostic theist" is in itself a contradiction. You "believe in a God, but don't know which one"? That is utterly meaningless. What would "God" even mean in that point? That's just agnostic. Agnostic atheist and agnostic theist are the EXACT same thing. The only dividing line between them is sophistry.

>>514956481
I think that sounds like the agnostic position, if we're going by atheism = active disbelief in god(s). But these labels are largely meaningless.
>>514956540
Yes, the tanakh is about 2300 years old, the new testament perhaps about 1900 years old. It's all very recent and clearly reactionary to Hellenism (at first by attempting to counter it, then by just subverting it).

>>514956568
Because I know what you'd do with it, you degenerate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus

>>514959076
>"Agnostic theist" is in itself a contradiction.
Not really. Agnostic essentially means without knowledge, specifically esoteric knowledge. So me being an agnostic atheist means I lack belief in your esoteric knowledge about "God or gods"
>You "believe in a God, but don't know which one"
Incorrect.
>Agnostic atheist and agnostic theist are the EXACT same thing.
Not quite. I lack belief until convinced while the agnostic theist doesn't lack belief but isn't aligned to a specific dogma

>>514959163
See above

>>514959286
>Not quite. I lack belief until convinced while the agnostic theist doesn't lack belief but isn't aligned to a specific dogma

>>514956847
>Rather, it's a separate realm.
We have no fucking clue about this. All the cosmological models of Nordic mythology are extremely late and heavily influenced by christianity. There is no reason to think Bronze Age Nordics thought of Hel any differently than Homer's Hades.
>I'll also add that it's a place of coldness, wetness, ice, and darkness rather than one of fire and brimstone.
Yes, but this is likely just because we have terrible winters in the North, whereas Meds have terrible summers in the South. Additionally, Hades itself is not fire and brimstone. Tartaros is the spicy torture place. Most souls go to Asphodel, which is just normie-afterlife for boring normies, and neither good nor bad. I'm assuming its where the catholics got purgatory from.

>>514935915 (OP)
No its not its mythology you are a demon Atlantis existed its roman catholic and Troy and and the etruscans and the baphometicnshit you are freemaosn gay pedo jeet nogger loser inavder and sponsored of thats 2 trillion dollars to the bolaehviks for their satanic agenda and chrost denial reality denial agenda after fsrima la sallete and french royl action and the dreyfuss case the lodges are pure evil you low intel nogger

>>514957341
>The truth
*the unsubstantiated extraordinary claims of some jews which were illegal to dispute for a thousand years
On an unrelated note:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust

It's pretty simple really.

Agnostic theist believes in God or gods but doesn't assign themselves to a specific dogma. While th4 agnostic atheist lacks belief until convinced

The gnostic theist claims to know there is a God/gods and its theor specific dogma that's right. While the gnostic atheist believes claims to know there isn't any possibility of God or gods, regardless of the evidence provided

>>514959369
Hope that helps my friend

>>514959076
>"Agnostic theist" is in itself a contradiction.
Why are christniggers on the internet but are incapable of searching for information?
>Theism is a belief in a god or gods, and agnosticism is the belief that a god’s existence cannot be known with surety.

>Theistic agnosticism or, more commonly, agnostic theism seems to be a contradiction in terms.

>A summary definition of agnostic theism is as follows: “a belief in the existence of a god held simultaneously with an uncertainty of any god’s existence, doubt that such existence could be proved, or mistrust that any god can be fully known.”
>Agnostic theism has elements of personal faith, but it remains uncertain as to the validity of faith’s claims in the absence of tangible evidence.
See: https://www.gotquestions.org/theistic-agnosticism.html

>>514959369
>but isn't aligned to a specific dogma
But is aligned* typo

>>514959480
What is the truth of the world, anon? What should I replace Christ with?

>>514957851
>What maters is culture.
That obviously includes religion. In fact, for the longest time, "nation", "tradition" and "culture" was effectively or literally synonymous with religion.
Liberalism has already failed, we're no longer playing that game.

>>514959526
>More sophistry
I reject your language tricks. Agnostics don't know whether or not there is a God. That's all that matters. If you want to form gay little sects within atheism, have at it. I just don't care and won't validate it.

>>514959529
Kek ignore this. Sorry man, phone posting after waking up. My fault

>>514959617
>I reject your language tricks
There isn't a trick though. It's just more complex and nuanced than your youth pastor told you

>>514959533
None of these questions mean anything to me. I may be able to respond to real questions about real things though. I avoid jewish abstract games like the plague.

>>514959688
Yeah you're definitely a big brained, nuanced thinker. Tell me the one again about how you just reject one more God than I do because there are 3000+.

>>514959710
Okay, I have belief in Christ and that direct impacts my worldview. I look to him as a model on what a truly "good" man would act like. If you remove him as a model man, who do you supplant in his place?

>>514959778
Kek, a red herring? That's where you want to end your "rebuttal"?

>>514959617
>I just don't care and won't validate it.
lmao
the source I gave is a christcuck source but you just can't understand, christnigger

>>514959926
Rebuttal? I'm not rebutting anything. I've already rejected your language tricks in their entirely. I'm not giving you a counterpoint, I'm saying your position is ridiculous and I've already proven why. I'm not interested in faggot atheist sectarianism.

>>514960011
>Christians are a monolith, if it's from a Christian source, another Christian MUST accept it.
Kek.

>>514960056
>I've already rejected your language tricks in their entirely.
Except there isn't any tricks lol.
>I'm saying your position is ridiculous
Back you can't back up that claim lol.

>>514959905
Depends. Do I have to replace him with a jew? Does he have to have the same teachings about jewish supremacy? Does he have to claim to be sent by the tribal god of the jews? This is not a simple question you're asking.
I've also never supplanted jesus as a "model" man, since I've never been christian, so I'm not the best guide.
I can recommend you study some European men instead, if you want good rolemodels, but I wouldn't recommend just choosing one and refusing to diversify your portfolio, so to speak. In Europe, we used to call this a classical education, and everyone who wasn't a retard pleb had one.
You can look to classical literature and art. The Greeks, the Romans, the Nordic Sagas, etc.

>>514960166
Christ is King.

>>514959905
>I look to him as a model on what a truly "good" man would act like.
Okay
Do you believe that everyone should look at jesus as a model?
In your worldview, what happens to those that die without knowing about jesus?

>>514960096
You never specified what brand of Christian you are lol

>>514960227
Kek, I already told you
>>514958782
>Thats cool you believe in Christ. Doesn't bother me
Lol, lmao

>>514935985

CI is true though. It just isn't a religion like some want to make it out to be. Just a tragic story. There is no such thing as a purely racial religion.

Jesus makes you stupid kikes seethe, therefore it's the correct way of life. Better luck next time he smites you. It's been 80 years, you know?

>>514960226
No, in fact, you'll find that most Jews throughout history have been immensely flawed. Same with most people. I agree that you can learn virtues from the great men of history.

Let me ask you this, though. Do you think Christ had any virtues to teach at all?

>>514960396
>jews don't drink poison

>>514960234
Yes. Those who die without knowing about Christ will be fairly judged in accordance with their actions. It's a shame they weren't given the opportunity for grace and assurance, though.

>>514960514
He was a man of great moral character, but he was more than that. Anyone who is asserting he was just a moral teacher is missing the point. In fact, I'd argue if Christ wasn't Lord, he'd actually be an extremely EVIL moral teacher.

>>514960433
>Do you think Christ had any virtues to teach at all?
Well, I don't think he's a real person at all. He's a midrashic yom kippur ritual reenactment to cope with the loss of the temple, and he changes drastically depending on whether it is pre-sauline or post-sauline writers who write him.
But can I find things the jesus character says that I agree with? Certainly. But none of those things are exclusive to him, and I strongly disagree with most of his teachings.
In the same way, I can find things that marx wrote that I agree with, but I strongly disagree with most of his teachings, so I'm not a marxist. Also, like saul, he's the son of a rabbi, so you know...

>>514960662
>if Christ wasn't Lord, he'd actually be an extremely EVIL moral teacher.
That would be my position, yes.

>>514960662
>In fact, I'd argue if Christ wasn't Lord, he'd actually be an extremely EVIL moral teacher.
Kek
>>514960227
>Christ is King
Look who's using the "language tricks" now lol

>>514960662
I cannot accept a jew as my lord, savior, messiah, whatever you want to call him, It's nothing personnel anon. Somewhere inside you, you understand this. Yet you will never type anything on here to admit that.

>>514959905

While Jesus was a perfect man who we should strive to emulate, his main purpose on Earth was to die and resurrect for our sins because we will always be flawed compared to Him. That's not something any other person can emulate. He even says John the Baptist was better than any men who lived in the Old Testament but those who become Christians are greater than even him.

>>514960500
>Those who die without knowing about Christ will be fairly judged in accordance with their actions. It's a shame they weren't given the opportunity for grace actions
So then what's the point of yahweh sending jesus (also yahweh) to "die for the sins of humanity", if some humans will not even have access to vicarious atonement?
Wait, what limits jesus from appearing to the humans that aren't reachable to christcucks? he appeared to the apostles, cornelius, saul, and ananias.
Does he not care if those humans have access to vicarious attonement and know about his revelation?

>>514960693
Most historians agree he existed though. Wouldn't it make more sense that the story about a real man was modified after his death instead of him being completely made up?
>>514960736
At least we see eye to eye on this point.
>>514960774
I do understand this anon. Jews have twisted the Christian message into a disgusting notion of "Judeo-Christian values" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. They are the pinnacle of subversion. You think I won't admit that? I'll take it a step further and say that I understand completely all of the reasons you don't want to believe. All the way down to the origins of the faith being from Jewish people. And when you look at "Jewish" people today, why WOULDN'T you be skeptical of any claims made by any of their people? I think that's a completely rational take.

>>514938168
Indeed, every single time. They also all fail the religion or race test.

>>514960951
Good questions, anon. I never claimed to have all the answers. He's set His plan into motion though and it's all coming to a head soon. Just because I don't understand everything God's planning is not enough of a reason to not believe in God to me.

>>514961047
>You think I won't admit that?
How about practicing some introspection and understand that all of Christianity's problems are because of Christians. Jews didn't come and divide Christianity into over 30k divisions. Christians did that.

>>514961192
>When I try to tell mathematicians that 2+2=5 they actually tell me that it equals 4. Every. Single. Time.

>>514961047
>Most historians agree he existed though. Wouldn't it make more sense that the story about a real man was modified after his death instead of him being completely made up?
Those historians are just parroting commonly held beliefs, they have no source. Even if we include all biblical sources, the FIRST source about yeshuah comes decades after his death. Richard Carier's video (and book) "The Historicity of Jesus" basically proves he never existed.

The entire story is clearly mythical, it copies tons of mythical stuff already existing, and Saul (first source) never mentions yeshuah existing on Earth, only appearing in visions and dreams. We have basically no source speaking of any earthly yeshuah before something like 70 years after his supposed death. He didn't exist, at all.

>>514961326
You must choose one of the two: everyone in the world is a nigger but faithful christian, or everyone is an Aryan Pagan. Choose, now. If you don't, I'll consider you chose niggers.

>>514961047
>Most historians agree
Absolutely irrelevant to my beliefs.
On an unrelated note: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
>Wouldn't it make more sense that the story about a real man was modified after his death instead of him being completely made up?
It's not about what makes sense, it's about what the evidence suggests. And jewish stuff doesn't make a lot of sense to us goyim, so you've gotta really get into the LARP and see it from their perspective.
Even if we said that there was a historical person at the core of it, how much of him remains once we've stripped away all the jewish claims? Nothing. It's like spiderman without the powers and the backstory and the personality and also by the way he lives in Norway and his name is Henrik but we know nothing about him. Is it really spiderman anymore?
I'm politely going to refrain from debating mythicism with you this late in the thread, but there are plenty of good resources on it if you're interested.

Can I ask you something since we're being friendly? Your immediate comments on the topic of "replacing christ" reference him purely as a role model, not as a cosmic entity in the traditionally religious sense. Can I ask you what rituals you perform in your day to day to commune or pray to your christ? My first thought of religion is one of rituals and gods, not mortal role models.

>>514961192

All religions put religions first. Norse paganism wouldn't condemn an African from marrying into their tribe

>>514961047
>Jews have twisted the Christian message
Do you include Saul in this? Is this the true christian message according to you in picrel here >>514945240
>"Jewish" people today
Look at what our ancestors thought of the jewish people then. >>514938862

>>514960226
>Wants followers to feel sorry for him

Lol what?

>>514961459
BTFO'd so hard frenchie had to come up with a stupid hypothetical. I'm not answering that ridiculous question, by the way. Assume whatever you want.

>>514961459
>only appearing in visions and dreams.
and in the scripture, like it did to all the other apostles. That's what's called a midrash. It's like fan fiction essentially.

>>514961671
KEK, there it is, every single time. Worshiping a fictional jew > loyalty to your race, every single time. As proven time and time again, all racialist left this jewish cult, only the antifa traitors and the spics are still in it.

>>514961644
It's a joke, not a dick, don't choke on it.

>>514960448
>Incorrectly using green text
Leave this place, interloper.

>>514961671
>Assume whatever you want.
Trust me, we do.
Add another globonegro answer to the tally, boys.

I will admit this to Christkoshers: If Jesus wasn't jewish, he would be a great role model to unite whites and civilize the lower nature of man. However, perhaps he was too civil; when your enemy is dominating you, "turning the other cheek" is just suicide.

>>514961803
>I don't understand it, so it's wrong
ok

>>514961836
yeshuah was a piece of shit

>>514961487
Lmao, you do present a VERY strong argument against historians with the holocaust, I will concede that point.

So to clarify, while he is a role model for behavior, he is also Lord. Remember he was both human and God, so as a human, he showed us what a "godly" human would be like. This is interesting because it goes against what worldly people would expect a "godly" man to be. (which is why the Jews of his time were expecting a warrior-king).

I pray to Him pretty constantly. When I find myself in between thoughts about my duties and responsibilities, sometimes I am reminded of the spiritual truths of the world and I'll reach inward and pray to Christ to both thank him for all he's provided and just to be at peace with the creator.

I understand that prayer is generally seen as pretty dumb, but it's enjoyable to me. I love Christ, I love God, and thanks to my faith, I live in a world where I can engage with God on a personal level.

That being said, I am not unaware that this could all be delusion, and delusional people are not aware of their own delusions. So if it's all just cope and delusion, the joy it brings is worth far more than being seen as "intelligent" by the men of this world. I've looked at the game and put all my chips on Christ.

>>514961836
>he would be a great role model to unite whites and civilize the lower nature of man.
Are you fucking kidding me leaf?

>>514961833
It truly fascinates me, I would at least expect them to just lie, they already do so much, but no, they physically can't refrain from sucking jewish and nigger cock. They always fail this simple test.

>>514961756
Here's my own hypothetical: Would you rather practice your made up religion in peace OR make posts on the internet trying to divide and conquer the right wing movement?

>>514961836
a lot of what jesus says was already claimed by Socrates in the writings of Plato, in Crito you have basically something very close to turn the other cheek, but the difference, major one, is that Socrates never claims his ideas are for hoi polloi, far from it, and I wonder if that's where the genius of Saul lies in, to take a doctrine fit for few individuals detached from the mass, fairly ascetic/initiatic, an make it a political/social weapon

>>514961880
>Lmao, you do present a VERY strong argument against historians with the holocaust, I will concede that point.
Thank you, it's a practiced one at this point.
>This is interesting because it goes against what worldly people would expect a "godly" man to be.
Exactly. His teachings are subversive, which is why Saul (the pharisee) infiltrated the movement, if it ever existed before him in any meaningful sense, and rewrote it to be a weapon against his hated enemy: Rome (ie. goyim).
>prayer
I asked what ritual. You describe prayer as an inward thought. Imagine that I was a voyeur ghost alien, what would I see?
>delusion
Not at all. Prayer is no delusion. I have prayed and received replies, this much I have no doubt about.
You needn't preempt any fedora replies from me.

>>514961896
I'm not a jesus fan, I disagree with many of his quotes. But, the pagan gods admittedly didn't have the same sway that a figurehead like him did.
Some people need religion because they need a neat moral system all laid out for them. Pagan gods don't have the same pull that Jesus the jew did, admittedly.

>>514962070
Kek at least this was a funny cope, I'll give you that much. Chapeau.

>>514962070
Ah, the famous Pagan d&c. Also uberkek at the fact YOU started with a retarded hypothetical "muh 2+2" and when confronted with a relevant one, you immediately denied the very concept of hypotheticals. Jew worshipers go to the oven, retarded anti-Aryan maniacs.

>>514961896

Jesus is literally God and created everything so obviously there is nothing controversial about this verse in this context.

>>514962127
I don't engage in any rituals when I pray. I pray like I think, but instead of focusing my mind on my thoughts, I focus my mind on my heart. As I pray to him, I look to the impact is has on my heart. I can feel love spreading from there outwards. That's how I know he is the source of love. That's why the whole God = love makes sense to me. I don't light candles or anything. I just focus my mind and my heart and usually pray something along the lines of the Lord's Prayer. Could be while I'm driving, working out, whatever.

>>514962224
That's an analogy not a hypothetical you dumbass.

>>514954635
They really did turn into the trannies. They even groom children to reproduce.

>>514962070
>>514962224
geg. isn't it fascinating how a germanic and hellenic pagan can live in respect of each other but two different sects of chriggery have to start wars over minor disagreements? that sounds like d&c to me.

>>514961880
>I live in a world where I can engage with God on a personal level.
According to christcucks, a third of the world doesn't have access to the gospel.
What limits god from engaging on a personal level with the "unreached" people groups?

>>514962143
What are you on about? The worship of the European gods lasted for thousands of years in Europe, even if we pretend it ceased with christianization. Christianity didn't even break a thousand, and had to make concessions to European customs from the beginning till the end.
What makes christ popular with the plebs is that they can have a personal relationship with the (alleged) king of the cosmos. It makes normie plebs feel special, but it's the same egalitarian lie that marx tells the proles. They're not special, and jesus isn't the king of the cosmos.
Other religions are hierarchical, with priestly castes, special communal rituals, festivals, etc. It's more strict and less new age hippy dippy do whatever feels good.

>>514954635
Christkosher discord groups cause so much destruction on here, that's true. They consensus crack and try to whip anyone that doesn't comply into silence.

>>514962479

Pagans were mass murdering and enslaving each other long before Christianity.

>>514962479
We are mostly at peace with one another. Pagans are only okay with each other because they are mutually larpers who don't actually believe in anything.

>>514962496
Great post. I meant that people need a figurehead to rally around, someone with social sway and pull, someone who can give them a moral system and tell them to do good. But, as I've made clear, even seeing Jesus the jew from that angle, I see holes in that approach.
>What makes christ popular with the plebs is that they can have a personal relationship with the (alleged) king of the cosmos
Yet people do not report as special of a connection with the pagan gods. Christkoshers have ONE unique charismatic figurehead to rally around, pagan gods don't hit that spot.

>>514962479

Christian's conquered the whole world.

>>514962358
So to me - no offense - you're an atheist. You pray to yourself inside your own head. This is the same confusion the ancients had about the jews and later the early christians.
But the thread grows too late for much further serious discussion on the topic unfortunately. I hope we meet again in a younger one one of these days.
I'm easy to spot: I'm the nordcuck posting bible verses and statues of the gods like I got paid for it.
If you haven't, you should read Homer. In particular the Odyssey.

>>514962678
>We are mostly at peace with one another.
meanwhile, the peace:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion

>>514962887
I'll keep an eye out for you. I'll be the Christcuck always defending the message, but that might make it difficult to spot. Interested why you think it makes me atheist and what rituals you think I need to be engaging in. As you said, too late in this thread.

>>514962742
Cheers.
>Yet people do not report as special of a connection with the pagan gods.
What phone polling from Antiquity are you referencing here?
Clearly Thor, for example, was extremely beloved in the North. This is evident by place names, personal names, archaeological findings, etc.
But I do agree that ideological centralization, simplification and essentially reduced resolution makes for an easier to control system. Remember christianity had to be imposed under threat of the death penalty. In Denmark, it was still mandated by law into the modern period. Talk about "a special connection"...

>>514963048
Yeah, there's a lot of burger crusaders on here, so it's probably easier the other way around. Be sure to mention that we've had a prior pleasant interaction, I'm always down for a friendly talk.
>picrel
Kek relatable

Good health to you and yours.

>>514963132
I'm referencing all the reported stories I've read and watched over the years of Christkoshers testifying that they believe in the figurehead Jesus and feel a connection to him. I cannot remember people saying that about pagan gods.
People need some sort of system, they cannot live fruitlessly. The Christkosher system is lucky it survived as it did, I'm sure there are other religions that never even made it in the history books because they were crushed or forgotten.

>>514963364
>people saying that about pagan gods.
Do you mean modern people? There are infinitely more christians than European pagans, so that's gonna skew the data a bit.
I have a very personal connection to those of the gods that interact with me. I am certainly more religious than my christian neighbors, priest included.
>People need some sort of system, they cannot live fruitlessly.
100%. No disagreement there. I just dispute that the system written by jews for goyim has any value to us, even if we deleted all the explicit jewish supremacism in it.
Also, normies will go where they're told, so their personal feelings don't really matter. They'll feel what they're made to feel by their betters, either honestly (see Homer) or dishonestly (see the circumcised pharisaic rabbi mohel jew from Cilicia).

>>514963364
Anyway, we're gonna bump off any second now. Best of health to you and yours as well, and to all other frens in this thread.
Mars Ultor Vigila