Thread 516697111

>orthodox, catholic, protestant doesn't matter what matters is believing in christ

is this true? does it really just not matter? did people fight and die over this for no reason?

>>516697111 (OP)
yes it does not matter
as long as you believe in jesus christ as messiah, whether you are catholic protestant orthodox shia sunni, you are against zionism and you are against modern rabbinism of the pharisees and sadducees

No. If you spend your whole life praying to Jesus, you'll see Jesus when you die. If you spend your whole life praying to Krishna, you'll see Krishna when you die. If you spend your whole life praying to Adolf Hitler...

>>516697375
American so called Evangelicals are the biggest jewish cocksuckers on the planet

>>516697393
(No as in it does not matter)

>>516697375
an asian man should not care about any of this, you have your own lore, stop larping as an arab semite

doesnt matter as long as youre not some white demon

I am a Traditional Catholic and went to a Pentecostal Church with my friend one week and thought they were insane.

>>516697111 (OP)
Denominational labels mean very little. A more honest view of Christianity is more based on a 4 way spectrum between Evangelical to Traditionalist and Liberal to conservative. A liberal Catholic and a liberal Baptist have more in common than a conservative Catholic and a Liberal Catholic in how they see the world in general and faith in particular. Evangelical Catholics (no, no Lutherans) also exist, the kind of church where they may say Mass but they sing Hillsong as the entrance/exit chant or during communion, which would piss off both TradCaths and conservative baptists for some of the same and some very different reasons

>>516697111 (OP)
Catholics pray to saints and give the exact same reasoning for it as the isrealites did for praying to the golden calf. I'm pretty sure when Jesus said He was the new covenant it didn't mean forgetting about the first of the ten commandments.

Every single Christian denomination agrees that ultimately whether or not you’re saved and live a life of virtue is between you and Jesus Christ, not you and you and your church. So in regard to whether you can be saved it is as simple as that. Now in regard to whether you should just end there, it isn’t as simple as that. It stands to reason that in order to truly have a relationship with Jesus Christ, you’re participating in His church in the way he intended you to. You don’t get to please ignorance or carelessness. So ultimately you have to decide whether Christ came to establish a church or merely a book and act accordingly.

>>516697111 (OP)
The Protestants are right but it's a moot point since belonging to a group doesn't give you any salvation. The Catholics were okay until they said the Pope can basically rewrite the Bible. The Orthobros believe they can be God-like which is blasphemy. Protestants exist as a protest against the Catholics for fucking up simple Christianity.

>>516697375
>Universalism
Kys freemason.

>>516697671
>>516697685
>>516697697
niggas got that degree in Yapanese

>>516697111 (OP)
This boomer and his son got BTFO by some random Ethiopian Orthodox kid a few months ago and it went viral
Seems like he's changing his tune so that Catholics and Orthodox don't keep following him around to his events to further BTFO his entire career

>>516697111 (OP)
>>516697375
>>516697393
>1 Corinthians 1:10 - 10 Now I exhort YOU, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YOU should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among YOU, but that YOU may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought

>1 Peter 3:8 - 8 Finally, all of YOU be like-minded, showing fellow feeling, having brotherly affection, tenderly compassionate, humble in mind,

>2 Corinthians 13:11 - 11 Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with YOU.

>Ephesians 4:2-6 - 2 with complete lowliness of mind and mildness, with long-suffering, putting up with one another in love, 3 earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. 4 One body there is, and one spirit, even as YOU were called in the one hope to which YOU were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.

>Philippians 2:1,2 - If, then, there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any sharing of spirit, if any tender affections and compassions, 2 make my joy full in that YOU are of the same mind and have the same love, being joined together in soul, holding the one thought in mind,

>Romans 16:17 - Now I exhort YOU, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that YOU have learned, and avoid them

Even though there are multiple sects today only one can be right. You can't join any sect and just accept Jesus Christ and be saved. You cannot avoid all sects and be saved because that would be you becoming a sect yourself.

>>516697897
"For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them."

-Jesus

>>516697111 (OP)
Everyone who truly believes in Christ will be saved. But I don't think He's going to be very happy with those who insulted his earthly mom.

>>516697111 (OP)
>is this true?
conveniently unprovable

>>516698254
>I'm going to quote your scripture and then lean back with my arms crossed like I just won
This is so fucking annoying and also your interpretations are wrong

>>516698495
Protestants don't care about sin, they care about having authority over reality
And the Church's existence is a giant monument against their power and ego

>>516697111 (OP)
It matters. Eccumenism is a heresy and the religion of the antichrist.

>>516697877
checked
came here for this
i can understand not immediately changing stance, but not looking deeper and learning more about Orthodoxy after getting btfo like that is prideful

>>516697111 (OP)
It does matter. However, a homogeneous reverence for Christ is a good point on which people can intersect. The Lord's prayer also known as the Our Father prayer should be compatible with every Christian, from there one can determine something of a specific attitude that should be demonstrated in interfaith discussions. There's probably more to agree to disagree on then there isn't so it's good to keep in mind the few points on which all Christians can agree.

>>516698803
there is a greater problem in the protestant ideia of God which is fundamentally, pagan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMYJOX205qg

>>516697111 (OP)
Protestant leans more towards the true gospel but as long as you dont commit denominational idolatry, and understand faith on Christ alone (not works, but grace through faith) saves, then theyre saved

>>516697111 (OP)
In Christianity, your denomination is irrelevant to salvation. Most of the time, it's an intellectual dick-measuring contest.

>>516697897
so what happens to the wrong Christians? hell? how do you know which sect is right?

>>516699951
>Protestant leans more towards the true gospel but as long as you adhere to protestantism then you're saved

>>516699191
Do you support or reject the 7 ecumenical councils?

>>516700161
>God: Not my problem

most 'protestant' Christians in the United States are not really in protest of anything, except maybe papism which is wrong, they are just mostly ignorant of apostolic tradition and church history
the Orthodox church needs to do a better job at having a presence in the United States

>>516700161
I dunno, lol.
Matthew 14:29-32 (KJV) And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.

>>516697111 (OP)
>what matters is believing in christ
What matters is living in accordance to the teachings of christ as written in the bible ....... which you dont really do.

orthodox is the only one worth following

>>516700632
>most 'protestant' Christians in the United States are not really in protest against anything, except maybe the Catholic Church, where protestantism branched off and became invented in the first place

Suuuure...

As long as you Idolize Israel, and treat Charlie Kirk as the second coming of Christ...

As long as you are a Neoliberal Zionist, then it dooes not matter Goyim...

Just stay in your Protestan Dispensational Cult, Goyim.

>>516699951
Protestants can’t lean toward anything because, just like Islam, it is a broad term that encompasses 10,000 different sects, where all of them have only one thing in common: that the Jews are God’s chosen people, that the original covenants are still in effect, and that they did not pass to the Church of Christ.

"By the merciful assistance of the Most High, I have desired to labor in Europe, in America, with English, with Barbarians, yea, and also, I have longed after some trading with the Jews themselves, for whose hard measure, I fear the nations and England hath yet a score to pay"
Roger Williams founder of the State of Rhode Island.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/63358/63358-h/63358-h.htm

>>516701028
papists were the first to schism
and i put the 'maybe' because most protestants don't really feel at odds even with catholics
there is just not a big culture of apostolic church community in many places of the US
your posts in this thread have zero charity, your spirit is obvious frogposter

>>516697111 (OP)
Lol another shill trying to hand wave the false practices of the denominations. It does matter.

>>516701062
you are speaking in ignorance
presbyterians are classified as a hate group by the ADL lol

>>516701062
THIS

John 8:44
New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

44 You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Revelation 2:9
New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

9 “I know your affliction and your poverty, even though you are rich. I know the slander on the part of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9
New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

9 I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but are lying—I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.

>>516701236
>Calls people "papists"
Cries that someone's not being nice to you when highlighting the absurdity of your position
Fuck off

>>516701479
you can't refute my point, which is that Rome broke off from the Church
papists is not an insult, it is just a term for people with your (false) position
>fuck off
kek
thank you for proving my point, frogposter

>>516697111 (OP)
The act of faith that makes you a Christian is belief in the resurrection of Jesus Christ. That's it. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6 KJV. Christianity in 1 sentence.

>>516701622
>you can't refute my point, which is that Rome broke off from the Church
This is so fucking stupid I don't even know where to begin
The faith of the Apostles has remained for 2000 years, the Church is protected by the Holy Spirit and the gates of hell shall not prevail
Now give your explanation of what "Rome schismed from", when it happened, and where the Church is now
>papists is not an insult, we just invented this term and use it as a derogatory term rather than calling people by their actual name
You're disgusting

>>516701236
>there is just not a big culture of apostolic church community in many places of the US
You say this like it's some sort of Protestant win

>>516697111 (OP)
No, it does matter. Papists are the whore of Babylon and they wish to rope in every religion into their mega faith system in order to diminish Christ. There will never be a reconciliation, the bride for God is no whore and will never be.

>>516697111 (OP)
>MY JEW WORSHIP IS SUPERIOR TO YOUR JEW WORSHIP
people actually argue over this? do christcucks rly?

>>516697111 (OP)
Name one war fought over religion.

>>516701416
>you are speaking in ignorance
>in ignorance
You don’t even know how to talk, let alone the origins of the Saulstinian sect (a heresy of the cult of Yahweh) and its evolution throughout history.

Any North American (And protestant in general) who wants to go against Israel, first and above all, must go against themselves. That’s why Jews feel invincible: because you would have to annihilate yourself just to oppose them and their system of control.

>>516697111 (OP)
>Jesus was the most antisemetic man to exist
>entire NT is about showing jews worship satan
B BB BASED

(((Kikeyanity)))

>>516697111 (OP)
>what matters is believing in christ
nobody is more christ obsessed than mormons and yet this guy thinks they’re worse than satanists. protestants have always been full of shit. if they couldn’t have rabid sectarianism they wouldn’t even bother with religion.

>>516697111 (OP)
Yes, all Jew worship is the same shit.
>>516697375
Christians are the reason there is Zionism you fucking retard

>>516701909
>This is so fucking stupid I don't even know where to begin
calm down, you speak like an emotional woman
>The faith of the Apostles has remained for 2000 years, the Church is protected by the Holy Spirit and the gates of hell shall not prevail
correct, that Church is the one holy apostolic Orthodox church
Rome schismed from this church in 1054ad when they decided that their bishop would head the church, instead of the tradition thus far of being a 'first among equals' as Christ ordained
>You're disgusting
your spirit is one of childish emotional outbursts, even in text
control yourself
>>516702193
if i framed it that way, forgive me
it is a shame, both for America and in my opinion on the Church
>>516702528
there is nothing gramatically wrong with what i said
>anti Paul
you've outed yourself, antichrist and ESL lmao

>>516702683
Yeah, celebrating Passover is real fucking antisemitic

>>516702311
There have been schisms over how many fingers to do the sign of the cross with. These "people" are seriously fucking retarded

>>516703432
>ignore everything i said
>ignore jews think Jesus is boiling in excrement in the afterlife

>>516703387
>You're an Orthobro
I thought you were a prot
Well that's better than expected
Anyway, I gotta go to confession

>>516697111 (OP)
It's important to remember that Jesus was speaking to rabbis and their jewish kibbutz slaves. His message was TO THE PEOPLE HE WAS SPEAKING TO WITH HIS MOUTH, as people do when they speak

>>516702300
Surely it is Catholics and not Zionist Despensationalists who Idolize Televangelists like Charlie Kirk as if he was the Second Coming of Christ Himself, and idolize Israel the country as it were the kingdom of heaven.

Get real Abdul, you are not in Somalia anymore.

>>516697111 (OP)
>is this true? does it really just not matter?
It's one Protestant dogma, and most Protestants don't even follow that.
Indifferentism makes you a Lukewarm Christian, and Jesus hates those kinds.
Classical Catholic and Orthodox sects maintain that if you are not part of their own Body of Christ, you're alien to the Church and won't be saved.
>15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!
>16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.