Thread 520526402

>>520526402 (OP)
>Republicans start gerrymandering war
>Lose

>>520526402 (OP)
but i thought gerrymandering is only what fascist states like texas do?

>>520526402 (OP)
Trump should step in and help the red parts of California secede and form Jefferson State.

>>520526489
What would be sweet is if even with the gerrymandering, things are so fucked people end up voting blue for Texas for the first time in a long time.
I doubt that'll happen, but it'll be funny if it did.

>>520526402 (OP)
Why would this even matter? California will never go red.

>>520526402 (OP)
>lose 9 seats
>already got more than double that from redistricting
Oh man, you sure showed Trump this time!

>>520526402 (OP)
i think you can safely fit all elected repubs in our state inside a 7-11

>>520526402 (OP)
... and then it changes nothing. KYS commie nigger

>>520526609
I live in Texas and there's a good chance that they fucked up banking on increased hispanic support in west and south texas

>>520526519
Anri fascist syangigue ite Texas gerrymandered by lbj

>>520526402 (OP)
Based as it should be. Republicans should never be allowed to govern they should be disenfranchised at every opportunity. If they don’t like it they can get the fuck out of my state

>>520526402 (OP)
I'm pretty sure the consensus on the left is gerrymandering shouldn't even exist. But if they do it why shouldn't we?

>>520526489
>you lost at imaginary border drawing there's absolutely nothing else you can do wypipo shoulda seasoned dey food
soap box, ballot box, jury box... you dumb nigger you really forgot about the ammo box?

it will be a two party state, progressives and democrats

>>520526489
>all 16 million republicans leave CA
>spics no longer counted for representation in CA
>CA only gets like 15 seats in 2030
>NO, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO CHEAT TO VICTORY
>chud empire nukes spicifornia off the map.
ONE
PARTY
STATE

>>520526402 (OP)
remember the revolutionary war was fought over no representation

>>520526402 (OP)
let me guess, the fags on reddit are cooming themselves to death over the idea of their political opponents having zero representation?

>>520526776
Post address, paco. Ice will be along shortly.

>>520526778
No the consensus is that CA, IL, MA, MD, NY are already gerrymandered to shit in favor of leftoids. If all red states do the same thing leftoids always lose because you already cheated, you absolute lying nigger.

>>520526402 (OP)
The entire country is a one party jew-run state you dumb faggot.

>>520526982
its called saving democracy chud

>>520526912
Two more weeks?

>>520526936
>all 16 million republicans leave CA
nice fantasy
>CA only gets like 15 seats in 2030
Nah more like 48 is my prediction

>>520526982
yep they're bloodthirsty psychos
https://old.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/comments/1oni8wz/california_democrats_could_safely_eliminate_all/

>>520526402 (OP)
TAKE AWAY WOMEN'S VOTING RIGHTS

>>520526402 (OP)
>redistrict 9 seats
>texas redistricts 12
>democrats thinks this is a win

>>520526609
>>520526679
texas is a lost cause it is 100% inevitable to become blue, too many spics, too many jeets, too many chinks and it's all fucking ted cruz and wheelchair faggots fault

>>520526489
They won't though, you retard. California only has nine GOP-held seats at it stands right now. Other heavily blue states like Maryland and Illinois are already gerrymandered to hell and back.

Meanwhile, half the Congressional Black Caucus will get wiped out in an instant with their Court-mandated race-based districts.

California is completely impotent in this. They've blown their load years ago, and they simply do not have the ammo to counter what the GOP can do if the Supreme Court removes Section 2.

>>520526993
Stop eating shit ranjeet your gonna lose your h1b

>>520527234
Not true. Cali will gerryamnder harder than Texas. Utah GOP fucked up and accidently handed dems 1 maybe 2 seats. No southern states are doing anything. Ohio said they won't redistrict.

>>520527225
It's already BROWN. Who the fuck cares if the browns are red or blue? How are there still retards who think it makes a difference which kike puppet you vote for?

Trump could just divide California and make the rural areas a new state.

>>520526936
GOP will inevitably split between Shabbos Goy Repbubs and Nationalistic Repubs

>>520526776
Republicans built "your" state from the ground up.

>>520527379
No you can't. You'd need Californian state government to approve and you'd need the federal government to approve with 60 senators needed due to the filibuster

>>520527126
>be leftoid
>try to start a civil war
>act confused when people want to accelerate
You're going to be totally exterminated and it's going to be glorious because your existence revolves around chimping out and then screeching when it happens to you in reverse.

>>520527349
Indians also vote democrat. A swing and a miss.

>>520526402 (OP)
Can't wait to frog march them out of here

Well call it exodus 2

>>520526402 (OP)
Oh look the consequences of amnesty are showing themselves again. What a great idea that was.

>>520527149
>old reddit
Wasn't old reddit supposed to be some kind of fourm to escape the hyperleftist tyranny of current reddit? Why can't these parasites stay in their containment website?

>>520526402 (OP)
California is raped and has been for a decade. Who cares about what happens there.

>>520527455
>Two more weeks until day of the rope acceleration
Democrats aren't the ones impotently calling for a civil war dumbass.

>>520527349
>your gonna
Nice spic education you have there, Guadalupe.

>>520527393
Yeah any day now the real secret Republicans will appear and make the GOP into something other than the jewish faggot party it has always been
Maybe in 2 weeks or so

>>520526608
now THATS a 51st state i could actually see happening

>>520527509
A decade? California has never not been raped, it was settled by industrialists that had soldiers execute natives living near gold deposits

>>520527234
British and Eurofag and Soviet catspaw party since post-Jackson. It's well past time for Article 2 on steroids from Orange Boomer. Tolerating FDR gifted nuclear proliferation unto the nations (specifically Russia transferring weapons and materials to Norks, Chinamen, Pakis et. al.)

>>520526608
I want this so much.

>>520527357
>Cali will gerryamnder harder than Texas

And that is another great point. They already are planning to do +6 Dems to "counter" Texas's +6 GOP. So that OP map is three whole seats in the grand scheme of things.

Why do I even need to explain this? Use common sense: Why is one side (the Left) so anxious about the idea of the Supreme Court gutting the Voting Rights Act, and the other side (the Right) so giddy? Why did the Democrats plummet from an 82% chance in the betting markets of winning the House back in April to high 50s% lately at just the mere idea the Supreme Court could do this? What will the numbers look like if such a ruling actually gets handed down?

>>520527688
The university of California, now known as UC law in San Fransisco, was founded with gold owned by the chief justice of california who lead people to massacre natives near gold deposits

>>520527688
>fascist 'Indians' (racist name btw) refuse to embrace multicultural progress
Serves them right tbf

>>520527600
their already is an internal conflict between old Repubs and new Repubs
I'm sorry you think things will stay the same kike but once Boomers are dead no one will protect you anymore

>>520527497
old reddit is just a theme for the site. there used to be others but they did away with them to try and push the laggy ad infested newer version. too many people still use the old theme though so they havent dropped it yet.

California is a big place. But there are aspects to it that they should be ashamed of. Surely they must be questioning their approach, and whether they're heading in the right direction.

>>520528075
it's literally controlled by communists

>>520526402 (OP)
>THE MOST SHITLIB STATE WILL BECOME EVEN MORE SHITLIBBIER
No point in threatening the impossible.

>>520528011
>their already is an internal conflict between old Repubs and new Repubs
No there isn't lmao
They are conducting a purge of anyone who won't play ball with the jews, they have done this every few years for longer than you have been alive.
You are just a stupid newfag with no idea what is going on.

>>520526936
except the spics from the 70s 80s 90s 00s had kids and now there's a shit ton of citizens

this is because trump let ultracapitalist republicans fuck with the big beautiful bill and cut healthcare and snap.
The democrats were on the way out, nobody liked them they were weird smelly trannies, feminists, and annoying black women with fake degrees about racism. They would have dissolved to irrelevancy if not for this.
You have to fix the underlying government caused problems that make government assistance a necessity BEFORE you take people off that necessity, else you are left with a situation of government assistance necessity being caused by the government and no assistance given.

>>520528369
>this is because Republicans actually cut spending for once instead of issuing debt
Negro all welfare needs to be abolished before the West goes bankrupt. The poor and lower classes pay fuck all in taxes and except unlimited government services.
You fix this problem by disenfranchising people who are on benefits.

>>520527357
I don't get this "threat". Commiefornia is already a deep blue state and has been for years. What is the actual threat here?

>>520528320
half of LA is an actual favela anybody that goes there can see that multiculturalism doesn't work

>>520526489
Why does no one ever mention that California is ALREADY gerrymandered to hell and back? 40% of our voters are red team but only have ~20% of the seats. The blue team wants to make this EVEN WORSE. Joke of a state.

>>520528075
you gotta be kidding
no
CA (and NY for that matter) is simply run by openly corrupt commie assholes who give zero fucks. its legitimized corruption, since the entire state is in on it. its entirely cynical, and they know exactly what theyre doing, and whats happening because of it.

>>520526402 (OP)
Let me tell you one thing about crowd approval. For those on your side almost anything you do will be wrong, no issue with them. Now the issue is those who doesn't like you, to them nothing you do will be good enough. So how to overcome this problem? Simple, make them like you.

See that thing with SNAP is a clear signal why is it so difficult to do things in the US. 42 million people needs food assistance? This is a hell of a crowd and they are a noise one of course they will be against the wealth, of course they will be on the side of those who says "I'll give to the poor".

Let me ask you this: what will they do when the wealth give them what they are asking for? In all seriousness, you cannot escape taxes anyway so why not using this money for some peace of mind? Besides this makes the public image way better, it promotes gratitute and in consequence loyalty, makes the crowd easier to guide and more inclined to accept changes.

Think about it, a kingdom can't really rule a furious people, they will be screaming in our ears everyday. Some bread and circus if done right can be way more advantageous than simply ignoring it.

>>520528369
Democrats and Republicams will both remain relevant so long as jews have power.
They need red vs blue to keep the goycattle fighting over fake shit, they will never let either party die.
In a parliamentary system they can burn a party and start a new one (that is really the same thing just rebranded), but not here.
Read any political book written by a jew in the last 50 years and they will say this explicitly.

>>520527051
Land doesn't vote, people do. I'm guessing it confuses you that most of the map is red right? Even though like 12 people live in Montana?

>>520528313
they tried to purge trump and failed so there goes that theory

>>520526489
California only has 9 Republicans lol

>>520528835
lol i remember that line worked up until you lost the popular vote

>>520528509
welfare exists because the entire system is designed to restrain people within limited possibilities for the benefit of others. Because people are limited such that restraining system is responsible for picking up the slack.
People cant just go plant crops on some unused hillside like they used to be able to.

Likewise government restrictions and regulations in service of corrupt colluding third parties have made healthcare twice or more as expensive as it should be. Until that is fixed the government has a responsibility to pay for it.

The government caused the problem and had to patch it. They are removing the patch with out the problem.

>>520526402 (OP)
They have been for over 40 years.

>>520528991
9 republicans too many! Protecting democracy is when you completely disenfranchise a large portion of your population.

>>520529065
Property rights or your fucked up healthcare system aren't causing welfare, Democracy and self interested myopic poorfags are.

It's time to patch this problem by making sure those retards can't keep getting away with this.

>>520526982
Republicans literally started it. Whine all you want otherwise. California initially mass voted for ultra-fair and balanced district voting maps, but then Republicans mass defected.

>>520526489
>start gerrymandering war
>start
Hi newfriend, how's puberty going?

>>520526402 (OP)
We should just go with 100% democracy instead of fake voting with electoral bullshit

>>520526402 (OP)
So who is going to do the needful? are Cali Cucks really going to take this?

>>520528518
>What is the actual threat here?
Flipping 3-4 seats would flip the house of reps.

>>520529059
Trump rigged the election with Elon's help.

>>520526608
i would move there. i love that area so much. its one of the most underrated regions of the whole country.

>>520529200
Yeah you're on track to become minority White after you were explicitly promised in the 1965 Immigration Act wouldn't change the composition of your country. Your elections are a race to the bottom of who can get the most foreigners to support their party/not vote against their party. California has systematically benefited from illegals swelling their House numbers because they count for apportionment.

But those evil Republicans are undermining the legitimacy of the electoral system brrrrr

>>520526489
>Census is not Apportionment is not Districting

And dueling/alternate elector slates and Vice Presidential certification discretion has been a longstanding feature of all federal elections-- to the point Jefferson ruled in his own favor. Until that ambiguity was rectified in the last 5 years.

This is TACO bull baiting, because Orange Faggot is seen by the base as impotent (and a 90s democrat with gun grabber Bondi) and tempting the devil with 'neo-con' foreign policy adventurism. It doesn't matter if Dems lose net 9-12 seats in this escalation, they have no future regardless without legions of invaders and a stacked expanded Supreme Court of Katanji literally-Browns commies.

>>520527225
>too many spics
Spics in Texas do not like Spics in Mexico, they especially hate paying for them. They also think trans shit is retarded. I don't know how well they'll hold the line, but at least the wound is clotting

>>520529196
>Property rights or your fucked up healthcare system aren't causing welfare,
Yes they are
Welfare is just government subsidies for certain industries. Its like this way because those industries, middle men, other industries that profit off of it, countless politicians, they all came to an understanding.

If the people working any number of minimum wage jobs that provide basic services to communities did not get welfare as well their pay would have to go up to compensate. In the end everything is in equilibrium its just a question of how it reaches that point.

People are not allowed to check out of the system, and so they are only able to do what is allowed for them within the system. That system controls all possible futures. If it does not guarantee there is a path for one it is directly trying to kill people.

>>520526402 (OP)
They vote in the same people who destroyed California.

>>520529755
I'm not saying it's irrational in the short run (although in the long run you'll turn into Argentina), but thanks for proving my point.

At the end of the day poorfags want to get as much as possible and for others to pay as much as possible. Hence your notion of equilibrium. This is Democracy working as intended.

The problem is assuming a society is maximally legitimate with an electorally based 1 person 1 vote system.

>>520529456
Spics in Texas are niggers. They use nigger slang and tone.

>>520526402 (OP)
It will backfire on them. It always does. Some DEI government lifer did the math wrong and they will end up with fewer seats.

>>520526608
Would be kino and funny watching democrats squirm

>>520526402 (OP)
California needs to be nuked.

>>520526608
Bruh I'm so close to what would be the border let me in first

>>520526608
This

>>520526489
Not like that though

>>520526489
Keep this Dem cope up
They can't win the gerrymandering war though Republicuck leadership prefer to lose

>>520527535
>Democrats aren't the ones impotently calling for a civil war dumbass.
hahaha

>>520530022
the government could do what the soviets did and guarentee work. We could then fix up the failing infrastructure, clean up dirty streets, do lots of things. 0 unemployment rate. But that would be the government competing with private business and so lobbyists and ideologues would never allow it.

>>520531295
>guarentee work
There's your boulder, there's your sledgehammer. Go make gravel.

CALIMAGA will make you proud tomorrow.

>>520531453
if work needs doing its good work
all work should be able to provide for a family, however.

>>520526402 (OP)
You had 55 before. What happened?
Oh yeah, Democrats fucked up the state and everyone bailed out.

>>520526402 (OP)
And Texas will be fully red. All states should do this.

>>520527234
>thinking the GOP will do anything, ESPECIALLY when the ball in is in their court
lol. lmao.
imagine thinking the heel opposition party is anything but

>>520526608
>a Canadian makes a good post
You're one of the good ones, leaf.

>>520528555
Gang rape is a democratic process.

>>520526608
based canadian

>>520526402 (OP)
Dems are going to lose 10+ seats after SCOTUS overturns the Voting Rights Act and another 10+ after the next census. They will literally NEVER be able to win the House ever again. I expect in the coming years we will see more and more Dems descending into a murderous rage as the realization hits them.

>>520526402 (OP)
Good.
Don't start the fight, but fucking finish it.

>>520529355
The south is already delivering 15-20 seats. California deleting 9 Republicans doesn't do anything other than get them blown out by SCOTUS as soon as the map gets redrawn.

>>520526778
>I'm pretty sure the consensus on the left is gerrymandering shouldn't even exist. But if they do it why shouldn't we?
You are a fucking retard. Democrats have gerrymandered for decades. Republicans have recently begun doing the same and now you squeal like the pigs you are.

>>520532581
lol Texas gets more blue every year because the border is wide open and spics breed like roaches

>>520526402 (OP)
>could safely eliminate

Not going to fedpost here but clearly you haven't met the jethros that inhabit Bakersfield and Fresno if you think you are safe. I don't see them taking this well.

>>520529456
Boy kikes really won with the spics huh? They'll never drop them. Guess we'll just have to exterminate the spicish-speaking rats.

I live in NJ and it seems pointless to vote republican, besides the R fag here wants to keep home grown weed illegal to force people to keep buying at expensive as fuck dispensaries. The Dem candidate wants to expand home growing

>>520535018
texas was significantly more red in 2024 than 2020 or 2016.

>>520527234
>maryland
Can you fags keep our name out your mouth? Last census for MD was 2020, and in the 2020 election it was 65/32 for Biden. We have eight representatives (7 dems/1 repub).
So, Maryland's "awful gerrymandering" results in roughly a whopping ONE less fucking Republican congressman.

Now, look at Wisconsin or Ohio...
Eat my state's collective ass, fucknut.
You're losing that seat, too, btw.

>>520526647
Because they're taking the house seats, why are you even on a political board

>>520526608
Isn't there a referendum right now from a few Oregon counties wanting to secede to Idaho?
I don't remember which ones, but that fits one of the Jefferson scenarios.

>>520526489
>>520526402 (OP)
>>520526608
you're all gonna shit yourself when there are voter ID laws and suddenly california is red when they count votes for months after an election has ended
we are fucking TIRED of this shit here and everyone is struggling

>>520526647
It doesn't. California doesn't have enough seats to offset the losses in other states from redistricting. And over time the population trends will continue, California is losing enough people to bleed 5-6 seats by 2030. This move would barely offset the population bleed before factoring in the southern redistricting moves. Even getting new york and Virginia to join in isn't enough, they're not the only blue state losing multiple electoral votes from demographic shifts.

>gerrymander away your red districts
>people leave the state
>census happens
>lose seats that would have been red districts
pottery

>>520529065
> i have a right to send thugs to steal from you
you have a right to drop dead, commie

>>520526489
Democrats started it decades ago retard. They literally abolished 3rd party groups that handled it, and if you used a grid they would lose positions in 28 states.

>>520529389
It’s a shame Democrats are so obsessed with flooding the US with stupid brown people. They literally created Skid row in what is otherwise one of the nicest places on Earth. Their stupid policies are to blame for all the woes, they have had nearly uncontested power and turned the state into a zombie abyss, everywhere you look in their deepest blue areas is a horror show.

>>520526608
Only LA and SF/SV are blue
Nobody likes trannies.

>>520526489
Hmm, yes, what could possibly happen by disenfranchising voters. When there is literally no political solution, what could possibly happen.

>>520526489
If every state gerrymandered this would be the result. No, they won't stop when you're ahead to make it "fair" for you.

>>520528835
Yes it does, that's the entire point of the electoral college.

>>520529318
Then only L.A. and NYC would decide the outcome of literally every issue. Well, at least until the Midwest cuts them off and they all starve to death since there incapable of growing their own food, or creating their own electricity, water, or gasoline.

>>520526402 (OP)
Isn't this like literally an act of treason against the United States?

>>520526402 (OP)
If only they had all those illegal vote, looks like they counted them in to get that picture be a shame if there were no illegal voters to vote or if they got caught rigging an election..

>>>/a/283518078
/a/ here. Can you please come to our thread and wish /ourgirl/ Makoto a happy birthday? Thank you.>>520526402 (OP)

>>520526402 (OP)
it already is a Dem state and has been for a long time. it would literally change nothing

>>520526402 (OP)
>new district becomes such a narrow isthmus at one point that if you fell down, you would fall into an adjacent district
Going straight there and fucking poverty-stricken, socialist California MILFs if this ever actually happens

>>520538113
Yes, we grow closer to civil war every year. Democrats openly support foreign invasion.

>>520526402 (OP)
lmao, as if anything had changed… this would fuck the demonrats hard

>>520526519
Sometimes you gotta fight Texas Stupid with an equally pointless and stupid gesture just to offset whatever stupidity they initiated. It’s what keeps the Earth rotating properly and on axis. You don’t counter Texas, you end up with wobble like the wheels on a shopping cart in a Florida Walmart. It’s science

>>520526402 (OP)
Wait you mean the 1.0001 party state will now be a 1 party state? What a change and travesty.

>>520538234
>Going straight there and fucking poverty-stricken, socialist California MILFs if this ever actually happens
haha no. the party bosses will fuck the milfs and put you in the work camp. check out peoples republic by kurt schichter

>>520526519
Yeah, shut the fuck up faggot. You can't take the low road and cry when your enemy joins you in the mud.

>>520538280
It’s your circus now, you clowns are the ones in the spotlight. Don’t be projecting yourselves on the ones sitting this thing out for a few years. Own it, bitches.

>>520526402 (OP)
>>520526489
Fucking Based The 3rd Worldist GOP must be run out of this country
>>520526519
cry about it faggot
>>520526608
Trump is bitch who is too scared to upset his brown supporters and kikes
>>520537732
You wont do shit, larper
>>520537848
Literally nobody lives in those flyover shitholes you deplorable and btw the Midwest is run democrats so good luck never winning an election again

>>520538280
Yes, I'm aware they support foreign invasion. I don't see how they support this as it can only incriminate them in treason against the US.
Easily allows the action to arrest any judge, governor, mayor, or legislature that resists. At that point martial law is called and an election is held.
It's like... a battle you can't win with how they're doing it. Even if you thought you could outsmart it, California disarmed itself... They literally can't do anything about it.

>>520538699
Proof? Or conspiracy# 33275?

>>520526608
orange faggot will do nothing but give another billion and one of his sons to israel just like he did with Ivanka

>>520535374
Hey fag.
Keep your retarded drivers in your retarded niggertranny state. You guys are worse than NJfags.

>>520526936
>>chud empire nukes spicifornia off the map
in your dreams, clittycel.

>>520526402 (OP)
its literally the "accelerate" meme.
california will be populated by no one but illegal spix and some faggy liberals being taxed at 90% so they can get free tacos+health care.

>>520538213
They can get 4 additional seats if properly redrawn.

>>520526936
The amount of flak fired at your position only proves you're right. Total Republican Emigration would kill CA's power utterly and irreversibly.

>>520528555
40% and climbing

>>520535374
>lose 1 (one) uno, ichi, GOP seat
>still gain lots elsewhere
Dems really have been suffering from a brain drain.

>>520538791
Proof of what, that if they literally say "we're going to gerrymander for X reason" and then do it. They gave their motive, which is to undermine the election. Which is treason.
California is as lefty as you can get with gun control.
If your representatives are committing treason, they're removed. They're the only people that are officially recognized by the US. Everyone else in the state literally doesn't matter. So, when the treasonous people are removed, a special election is called because your state has no people representing it.
Proof is that's just how it be when you commit treason. The federal government doesn't "take over," it just prevents functioning until a new government is elected. It wouldn't have to be this way if you would simply follow the law that your state signed your people into.
Did you fall asleep in elementary school? This is really simple US civics/social studies

>>520538958
The largest State economies are California, Texas, and New York, which individually have larger GDPs than many countries.

>>520528369
>this is because trump let ultracapitalist republicans fuck with the big beautiful bill and cut healthcare and snap.
Go back to pReddit.

>>520539162
Proof that democrats support a foreign invasion. Don’t you keep track of your own posts?

>>520529233
People from Shreveport and Baton Rouge couldn't be more different from one another. That's so fucking hilarious.

>>520539219
So?

>>520539306
> be intentionally obtuse
>>520538280 made that claim and it's supported by the "no human/person/one is illegal," implying "illegal" immigrant is not a thing that can exist. They are here, they have immigrated.
Nothing illegal, and if it was illegal it's just a misdemeanor.
If it's a misdemeanor, then it's not that enforceable.
If it's not that enforceable, then why enforce it at all?
The proof is their literal platform?
Picrel, have you already forgotten?

>>520539162
Treason is the current administration. Literally a king stamping out edicts without congressional oversight, always at odds with the law, violations of citizens rights, threatening state elections by cutting off government funding if they refuse to vote for his pick, continuously in violation of the emoluments clause found in the constitutional amendments. Sending federal troops into states that refuse their admission, we still haven’t forgotten Jan 6, using the justice department to go after perceived political enemies, turning the Whitehouse into a Temu showroom, violations of the Hatch act on government sites, repression of the 1st amendment rights, intentionally pitting American citizens against each other, always lying about everything, openly accepting bribes. His deportations and attracts on foreign nationals, false crisis or generating crisis to allow troops in on non- urgent issues. It’s a staggering list constitutional law that no sane person would consider, and no judicial system that wasn’t beholden to the presidents wishes would support. He’s a terrible person surrounded by terrible people. By their very actions, they are treacherous criminals when weighed against their actions against our Constitution and Amendments to that Constitution. It is the obligation of every American citizen and those employed by the government to uphold the very principles to which our country was founded.

>>520540464
If this were actually illegal then he'd get in trouble. So basically you're lying.

>>520540122
Let me refresh your memory: Yes, I'm aware they support foreign invasion. I don't see how they support this as it can only incriminate them in treason against the US.

My reply was upon what basis can you make such a ridiculous claim, what evidence or proof do you hold?

>>520538529
Are you a retarded nigger?

>>520540523
He is constantly butting heads with the courts, seems the same handful of preselected Trump- picked judges keep handing him walking papers.

Just because you have a dirty sheriff doesn’t mean you’re not breaking the law.

>>520540809
The courts? You mean all those legal cases against this stuff that he keeps winning? Or the court orders for bullshit reasons that never hold up because the judges were Democrat appointees?
Yeah, I'm totally seeing your point... NOT!

>>520540523
He also owns (or disbanded) all those watchdog agencies who would normally investigate his actions. Seriously, you can’t defend his threatening to withhold federal funds from NY if they refuse to vote for Cuomo as mayor. Or his threats of sending in soldiers if NY doesn’t comply. Doesn’t get more anti- democracy than that.

>>520540997
He keeps winning because the judges he hand picked keep handing him wins.

>>520541045
Anon. You're not telling the truth.

>>520541124
>judges block his actions
>those same judges magically hand him wins

>>520539024
would kill any state. it's red voting people from the suburbs that commute to the blue cities every day for work that prop those shitholes up. that's why they absolutely lost their shit when the work from home thing started. cities cannot survive without their suburban tax cattle

decentralization is the key to defeating to these people

>>520541257
Those same suburban cattle are what gives places like California all their seats, too. Without those disenfranchised Republican voters, Caliwali would see half the seats they currently do, while the states they flood into would just jump into more GOP seats. The house would go forever red. That's why Article 2 is so important for Dems. Voter ID would kill their senate chances, so that's gotta be the next step. Get rid of all possible voting fraud avenues.

I don't care more gibsmedat in California for me.

>>520529375
good. that means the right is finally fighting back and realizing that "muh principles" didnt work because the other side uses illegal alien voters

I'm voting for this tomorrow.
Fuck kikes and fuck the Shabbos GOP.

>>520527225
We've been saying this shit for 20 years dog

>>520526608
A separate Republican Californian state would be pretty damn big.

>>520526402 (OP)
California is already maxed out on gerry madering, they don't have the cards to fight this battle.

>>520528555
You lost.

>>520535271
illinois promised to legalize home growing and now its one of the worst legal weed states in the country and home growing has severe penalties
so just remember that selling out your race for weed can backfire

>>520526489
I voted no
everyone I know voted no
only the internet is voting yes

>>520540464
>without congressional oversight,
The court is always restraining him, what the fuck are you talking about?
> always at odds with the law
Yes. Counterpoint, you find the way he stands, breaths, dances, smiles, drinks water, walks, or does whatever is at odds with normal.
> violations of citizens rights,
Sovereign/illegal immigrants aren't citizens no matter how badly you want them to be. Your representatives never changed the law.
> threatening state elections by cutting off government funding if they refuse to vote for his pick,
Ooohh, no the boogie man, he said something! Saying and doing are two different things, sue him if he does if it's so illegal.
> continuously in violation of the emoluments clause found in the constitutional amendments.
k.
> Sending federal troops into states that refuse their admission
Federal reigns supreme, sorry you failed elementary US civics fucko
> we still haven’t forgotten Jan 6,
I haven't forgotten 9/11, faggot. Mamdami is basically the comical antihero of the hijacker climbing out of the rubble of the building and anointed mayorship.
> using the justice department to go after perceived political enemies,
If they didn't break the law, they'll be fine. =) That's how it works.
> turning the Whitehouse into a Temu showroom,
Seems like a personal issue.
> violations of the Hatch act on government sites
k
> repression of the 1st amendment rights,
Sue then, faggot stop bitching to me about it. You're clearly able to talk about it despite how oppressed you are.
> intentionally pitting American citizens against each other,
kek
> always lying about everything,
Sorry you can't tell when someone is lying. It's honestly pretty easy, did you struggle to play LA Noire?
> openly accepting bribes.
You mean the jet? The only jet that the deep state hasn't been able to touch and rig to blow up in the sky?
> His deportations and attracts on foreign nationals,
Well, they are foreign. Oops.

>>520529200
california also voted to prevent illegals from having access to state programs in the 90s and were promptly ignored by a jewish circuit judge, leading to the brown goulash state it's in now

>>520540464
> false crisis or generating crisis to allow troops in on non- urgent issues.
I bet you can define urgent as well as you can define a woman.
> It’s a staggering list constitutional law that no sane person would consider,
LLM starting to break
> and no judicial system that wasn’t beholden to the presidents wishes would support.
Seems like the US government operating as intended. Sorry you failed elementary school. You have to go back home.
> He’s a terrible person surrounded by terrible people.
I kinda think you're just upset that you lost an election because if you keep up the act, it's like you never have to remember how shitty you've treated people.
> By their very actions, they are treacherous criminals when weighed against their actions against our Constitution and Amendments to that Constitution
Okay, and? You communicate through your representative. You yourself have no right to just go up to the president and demand he listen to you or do anything for you. You are but one of 350 million. The courts are what back the president. If they disagree, or the court is out of line, then our representatives can have them removed. If they don't vacate the office then the milita can legally remove them and the president can't give a legal order to the military unless the military does a coup. In that case, yeah the military runs the country. The military has always run the country.
> It is the obligation of every American citizen and those employed by the government to uphold the very principles to which our country was founded.
So you understand you sit down and shut up and let the representatives do what they do best, nothing. That's all the leverage you have because your reps are the only ones that you have jurisdiction over.

That was a whole lotta bullshit with no substance.

>>520526489
Please please God let this happen

>>520526402 (OP)
>If mandated race gerrymandering is overturned, we can implement the most aggressive gerrymandering ever seen.
The only solution to these retards is to either silence or kill them.

>>520540636
>My reply was upon what basis can you make such a ridiculous claim, what evidence or proof do you hold?
You just replied to my evidence. >>520540122

>>520526402 (OP)
It has been since the 90s. CA has been fucked for years and there will be never be a peaceful solution.

>>520541124
History will never be kind to the Trump administration. They’re grabbing the money and running. His constituency are a bunch of drooling mouth breathers too distracted watching ICE live cracking skulls on “dangerous illegals” to realize how fucked over they really are by this administration. The farmers and the veterans are figuring it out pretty quick, as are those who depend on assistance for food and affordable healthcare. That Big Bag of Bullshit bill was a declaration of war on the impoverished and blue collar workers. More money for our nations wealthiest, less government spending on the most vulnerable, and a president openly siding with half of America and causing toxic political instability with finger pointing invoking civil war. America doesn’t need this shit.

>>520538638
>Literally nobody lives in those flyover shitholes you deplorable
>loses popular vote
>because less people who are alive voted for your guy
lel

Republicans only have 9 seats in California.
Where are the demtards going to find the other 10 seats that they need - on top of the 6 that they’re currently behind on right now?

>>520541722
It's cute how they talk about violations of the first amendment as if they didn't do the same fucking shit under Biden and Obama.

Rural California is 70%+ Team Red

>>520526402 (OP)
Stability is a good thing. China's one party state is very efficient.

>>520541737
california also had a border wall before bush or trump were even in politics

>>520526912
Oh shut up. It's common knowledge that you are pussies and will never do shit.

>>520526679
It is how they did the deportations and the tariff propaganda. The deportations especially have been too cinematic. Obama did it the right way. Learn from the Black man

>>520541868
its blood from stone
and a bad idea as it means a Rep surge could flip a ton of seats

>>520526402 (OP)
Theres a really good chance it will pass, especially if their isn't any election monitors. California is run by very suspicious politicians.

>>520541855
History is always written by spiteful niggers, and that's about all you can do. Treat Trump the same way you treated Nixon for decades and use cartoons to convince easily fooled retards to believe in a strawman version of your boogeyman.

>>520541855
someone call ICE on this shitback anchor baby

sick of seeing this same dumbass brown teenager around here

>>520541124
i actually read those decisions and cant find the part where they are being corrupt. they explain quite clearly why trump is correct using the language given to us from the constitution

>>520526489
>we're better at unconstitutional shit than you
uh, thanks I guess.

>>520541129
But I am. Eventually you’ll see your leadership for what it truly is. Until then, God help us all.

>>520541863
Wait migatards believe election results now?

Requiring California and other blue states to check IDs, require citizenship etc. will flip them immediately because they were never blue to begin with. NY and Oregon might be the only actual blue states in the union.

>>520542007
lel you are actually one of the kikes seething over losing the popular vote
i love it

>>520542007
when it involves consolidating voters, then yes
the shabbos GOP has no voters

>>520527051
Remove all Illegals from Blue states, leave them in Red states, Do census, democrats lose seats, republicans gain seats, remove all illegals from red states, have a coke.

>>520541538
thats the presidential vote
California is even more right without trump by about 3% in 2024 and is the only state in the union where Republican's are still stronger in midterms

>>520526402 (OP)
Dems in every blue State are mass panicking right now and they're entering a new phase of complete wild-eyed panic and desperation that will make the last four years look like a tense Mexican standoff.

>>520541165
Judges from the lower courts block his actions, Trumps highest court unblocks them. Once in a while, on insignificant occasions, they will partially uphold the lower court but usually just theater.

>>520542056
didnt you niggers literally chimpout on jan 6 when your orange child rapist didnt win, deplorable?

>>520540786
brown hands wrote this post

>>520542128
They are in quicksand right now desperately trying to grab someone's leg and pull them in.

>>520540523
retard

>>520526489
>start
Democrats started it 50 years ago and now that the Republicans are fighting back they're crying foul.

>>520541855
>farmers and the veterans
nobody cares, bro. there are no farmers, it's just corpos and all the veterans are tax parasites. the biggest subsidizer of niggers and spics is the united states military

you cal some spic and nigger that never saw combat a fucking veteran. fuck you

>>520542150
So the democrat appointees attack him but the republican appointees defend him. You see this, but wish to believe there's any actual justice going on with the lower courts despite thinking the higher courts are the corrupt ones.
>>520542238
Fresh backup from the discord/sharty to help the other redditor fuck up while he's losing.

>>520542241
Some republicans are fighting back, the other ones are hiding in safe red states and want to still hang out with the cool trendy people.

>>520542056
>muh popular vote
>still less than 50%
lol the shabbos GOP is FINISHED
kidfuckers are going to hang in your lifetime
how does that make you feel?

>>520542203
Shalom, pajeet.

>>520542343
this is severe mentally illness. gop is not the gid fucker party, the democrats are. you can whine and cry about this all you want, but the only one pushing trannies and minor actratec persons horse shit is democrats and nick fuentes

>>520526402 (OP)
And this is why any talk of California secession is tripe. Democrats cannot survive on the national stage without California bringing in over 50 House seats and over 50 electoral votes. They will never allow their golden goose to leave.

>>520541491
You wont leave your moms house. Vote by mail

>>520542128
The funny thing is that even the blue states don't like them, not really. There is a tiny slack jawed minority which support them, while the majority of people in blue states have become apolitical because they weren't supporting the democrats because they believed they were good, they just thought the republicans were worse. That illusion has been shattered and now blue states are a step or two away from becoming swing states. I wish Kamala had won in '24, it would have permanently and irrevocably destroyed the democrat party.

>>520542128
You’re watch FOX again, aren’t you. The president wouldn’t be threatening to withhold federal funding or sending in troops if he believed he had a clear path to victory for the Republicans. They wouldn’t be urgently gerrymandering- even in states that are clearly republican— or trying to end absentee ballots if they thought they were winning. These are acts of desperation. MGT knows the score and is distancing herself away from the MAGA cult to save her own constituents now. When Marge bails, you know you’re fucked.

>>520542500
>withhold federal funding or sending in troops
He's doing that shit because he knows he has complete dominance and no one will be able to mount effective resistance. The Roman Republic ended when Caesar had the choice of serving his term as governor then returning to be tried and sentenced, or crossing the Rubicon and rolling the dice.

>>520542310
The lower courts: No Mr president- that’s a possible violation of the Constitution. We’re asking you reconsider.

The Supreme Court: fuck those pansies, you do whatever the fuck you want, Donnie. It’s ok if we call you Donnie, isn’t it?

>>520542795
So now you're just sliding into total fanfiction.

>>520527051
MD is absolutely gerrymandered. It's blatant. The entire western panhandle is overshadowed by a bunch of blacks and mexicans in germantown, you can tell by the little "jab" into montgomery.
It's systematic by measuring where people vote and redistricting to minimize representation.
This is the area right next to DC, it's effectively "The Actual Government"
You do something that upsets blacks? DC gets raided by North East VA, PG County, and Montgomery county.
India invaded Northern VA. The cartels run around MD like it's nothing.
Picrel, a map of where they specifically picked up dems to disenfranchise republicans. "Princeton" gives it an A but that shit is so fucked.
No one lives in the red areas because they basically have had zero representation for nearly 20 years.

>>520527535
>we aren’t calling for a civil war
Yes you are, and you have been for years.

>>520542675
We are not the Roman Republic though. And Rome was pretty much backed by Tyrants and the country’s most powerful and wealthiest. Was it sort of built into the 2nd amendment that one could raise an army against a tyrannical regime if necessary? The implication was that states possessed individual right of control of their own affairs. They also possess the right to determine leadership free of outside threat or influence. No, Trump is not a fucking emperor: he’s a servant of the people.

What is this obsession with licking others boots?

>>520543073
No no, he's right. They've been saying "Donald Trump is going to incite a civil war!"
It's a "through" statement which makes you think they're calling for civil war. It's called out so your mind thinks of a civil war. Attempting to invoke the emotions of what that would mean.

>>520526402 (OP)
Lmao, democracy is so fucking gay, retarded, and rigged

>>520529375
Election denialist

>>520542847
It’s the short sweet more palatable version of what’s actually occurring. Do the research.

>>520543223
>We are not the Roman Republic though. And Rome was pretty much backed by Tyrants and the country’s most powerful and wealthiest.
Seems one in the same.

>>520536467
California got a call from the NWO to fix it's shit and start building houses unironically.

>>520543308
Except that it's not. Follow your own advice, and the reasons why you keep getting BTFO'd by Trump becomes all the more apparent.

>>520543313
But not how it is meant to be. All the guardrails have been dismantled or headed in that direction: the Constitution is just some molding document sitting in the basement at the moment

>>520526912
>there's absolutely nothing else you can do
i mean, its true, we all know you wont do shit

>>520543378
Trump keeps BTFO out of himself and keeps blaming others. Eventually his closest supporters will see through his sickness. Those closest will rob the coffers of their wealth and go into hiding and the administration will be no more.

As much as I hate to say it, but if Trump doesn't pay the military, the military is going to fucking join California too, California could do a soft succession and stop paying the federal government money along with most democrat states and they have all the legal power to do that.

Alea iacta est is past tense, the die was cast before Caesar crossed the Rubicon. The moment the senate put Caesar in a position where he had to win or die, the republic was doomed. When the Biden admin decided to prosecute Trump they cast the die for him. When Trump ran for election in the '24 election, the American republican era ended. America's Sulla, FDR, died and we got to preserve our republic for a few decades, but now it's over. America's imperial period has commenced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Q_o93cbYg
>>520543223
>We are not the Roman Republic though
similar enough as to make no difference. The forces at play are the same.
>Rome was pretty much backed by Tyrants and the country’s most powerful and wealthiest.
The forces at play are the same, I'm glad you agree.
>Was it sort of built into the 2nd amendment that one could raise an army against a tyrannical regime if necessary?
The purpose of the constitution was to entrench power, not to prevent tyranny. Any checks on government power were easily overcome, and this was by design. In Rome all legionaries provided their own arms and armor, their right to bear arms was far stronger than ours, and they were still a tyranny.
>They also possess the right to determine leadership free of outside threat or influence.
Democracy is just a way of manufacturing consent, not an actual decision making process.
>Trump is not a fucking emperor: he’s a servant of the people.
No American president has ever been a servant of the people.
>What is this obsession with licking others boots?
I do not lick boots, and unlike you I'm not so delusional as to think that I can stick my tongue out and slurp on some shiny black leather covering someone's foot and imagine I'm not licking a boot.

>>520543426
It always has been. The point is you can either show up to court or not. If you don't show up to court then someone will. Only a matter of time.
Your reps didn't change the law, they only decided not to enforce it.
Treason.

>>520543622
History says otherwise. Oh guess what? All those felony charges will be overturned.

>>520527357
>red states won’t redistrict
Just wait.

>>520542429
kidfuckers are going to hang
this upsets you

>>520543674
People lied or refused to testify and ended up in prison to protect trump. The Supreme Court admitted that the whole case stank but there wasn’t much they could do. He pardoned them later. Tit for tat.

>>520541829
>oooh ringer in ry rutt

>>520543749
By more felons. Wonderful.

>>520543831
Gislhaine Maxwell is still alive and held without charges.

>>520543677
lol look at this subhuman trying to understand math
the elites you worship fuck kids.
soon, they will have zero seats and one mass grave

>>520543989
Felony charges mean nothing when liberals are in control of the courts. :)

So how should I vote on this tomorrow?

>>520544094
Doesn't matter. It's going to mass, because the White Man is awake, and he's sick and tired of being ruled by kikes.

>>520544094
if your confused for any bill just vote No

>>520526402 (OP)
California shall be again as they/them once was, a republic of honest he/hims and virtuous she/hers.

>>520544022
She's been charged and convicted, retard.

>>520543923
You keep impotently arguing in defense of a just American republic which never actually existed. The comforting lies are being abandoned, and the brutish reality of what states truly are is rearing its ugly head. Historians will remember this as the era when the American republic completely ended, and the American Empire arrived on the scene stillborn, already failing from a century of economic and geopolitical incompetence. This will be a short lived period and will probably be followed by a mercifully Balkanized America.

>>520544289
nice

>>520544094
Definitely vote for the guy who's going to kill you. That's what's on the ticket. Guess it's time to start reading up.

>>520526402 (OP)
>democrats can gerrymander even further and fully disenfranchise 40% of the voting population
I hope they do it. it wont go well for them.

>>520529389
No
One
Wants
You
Nigger

>>520526519
texas is ungerrymandering. voting districts with arbitrary borders is the only reason demoshits win anywhere.

>>520526402 (OP)
Texas will also be a one party Republican state

>>520541995
don't initiate the contest then dumbfuck

>>520544611
You know that gerrymandering has been a constant feature of American politics since the early 1800s right? The party that started it doesn't exist anymore, and neither does the party that they were trying to beat.

>>520526608
Return the state of Deseret. Combine Nevada, Idaho, and Utah into one, then split Commiefornia into the state of Jefferson and Spicville.

>>520527225
It can't genius, California is already more heavily gerrymandered than Texas and we aren't already getting into other red states. See>>520527234

>>520544897
Jefferson will be part of the Cascadian Reich. Without Jefferson our southern flank will not be secure and we will need to use biological, chemical, and radiological weapons to prevent California from invading us. You do not want to put us into a position where we have to defend our independence like that. This region is composed of people who went as far as possible to get away from overbearing puritans, and then did it again with the Oregon trail. It's occasionally pointed out that the human exodus from Africa was composed of the people who really didn't want to live in Africa anymore, imagine the level of genetic "go fuck yourself" it takes to do that until literally the whole world has been explored and there is nowhere on earth left to leave to. Our backs are to the wall, don't push it, if we have to leave earth it'll be on Orion drives and you won't be around to bitch.

>>520545360
All of human history is people getting the fuck away from groups of people because living in large population groups over time turns everyone into insufferable cunts.

>>520526519
>let the people vote on it
>it goes against the will of the people
Choose one faggot

>>520527802
Anon isnt very bright and fails to realize the obvious fallout. Firstly because southern Republicans are far less squeamish about using political power than there western and northern cousins. Secondly because he fails to realize stayes like Ohio cam change their mind.

>>520529355
Its compeltely negated by Texas doing the same.

>>520528313
This sounds like one scared kike whistling past the graveyard.

>>520526402 (OP)
Holy shit! Is that a hecking reddit post?!? It's so fucking over for us!!
Go back you fucking faggot!

>>520545435
Yes, and we are the ones who took it the furthest. We only stopped running when there was nowhere to go. The Oregon trail wasn't easy, and most people gave up or threw a Donner party well before reaching Cascadia, which is a rainforest sandwiched between a pair of mountain ranges. Do you have any idea how stubborn a human being has to be to travel 2500 miles through hostile Indian territory in a fucking horse drawn wagon just to get away from everyone else?

>>520545998
I think it's more a testament to how obnoxious east coasters always were.

>>520526402 (OP)
Depriving goy of the illusion of choice is a terribly bad move for the jews.

>>520526402 (OP)
get fucked commie retard

>>520526489
>start
Sorry, faggot. Democrats entirely own this one.

>>520526519
As a democrat it's okay to gerrymander some more when the republicans stop them from gerrymandering.

>>520546038
East coasters were driven out by the bongs, the bongs were driven out by the Bretons, there is an endless chain of annoying assholes, we keep running away and they keep following us. We're at the end, we can't run anymore. An independent Cascadia has the geography and belligerence of North Korea, the ethnic composition of Germany (more German than modern Germany based on some data), and the operational autism of the Russians. An independent Cascadia is basically a military hatefucking for the entire planet. Completely unconquerable and really fucking mad.

>>520526402 (OP)
I hate both teams and don't believe in the system at all, but the idea of this assblasting orange county retards makes me very happy.

If that is what people vote for... who cares?

The day they don't like it anymore they will vote for another thing.

>>520526402 (OP)
>5 million registered republican voters last year
>Zero representation if this goes through
There are entire states that don't even have 5 million people in it that will get more representation.

>>520541855
>the impoverished and blue collar workers
Ah, have you finally remembered they exist?
Imagine how miserable they felt—suffering from industrial hollowing-out and community decline, while being lectured by arrogant, self-proclaimed leftist queers with college degrees from coastal big cities about discrimination against new gay alphabets and white privilege, all while you fags were being fully backed by the government, big corporations, and bankers.
They hate California so, so deeply.

>>520538280
If we're being honest, so do republicans. Neoliberalism is the only thing these traitors actually believe in.

>>520526402 (OP)
>ca votes to change districts
>all red states follow and do the same in response

>>520526402 (OP)
Why aren't these fucking districts geographically just random grids overlayed on the state with equal square mileage?

Seems like that would solve the gerrymandering question.

>>520547834
>Why aren't these fucking districts geographically just random grids overlayed on the state with equal square mileage?
Democrats.

>>520526402 (OP)
California should be stripped of its state rights and reverted to territory status while it is cleaned up.

>>520547834
Because that’s racist

>>520526519
leftoids seem to be confused in their strategies. they call republicans "nazis" and then proceed to copy every single action those nazis do.

>>520548284
Nazism to them is basically expecting them to act like functioning adults. Like
>Try to limit it to two or three drinks because have have work tomorrow. In fact maybe you should just hold off until the weekend, instead. You have some important work tomorrow and you should get the best rest possible.
>FUCK YOU NAZIS!
It's basically just misplaced rebellious teen anger shifted from their parents to their government.

>>520543623
We're nowhere near as divided at the level of national government as you think we are.
Spoiler alert: Democrat led states are playing along with the Trump administration and pretending like they hate what he's doing. In reality, trump is bailing out Democrat run cities by implementing the basis for the federalization of the police. This will help alleviate financial burden as cities become incapable of paying for basic services (like police and utilities) and infrastructure.

the Biden infrastructure bill was a mass privatization bill that enabled municipalities throughout the country to sell their utilities to financial firms, and this also served the same purpose:
prepare for cities becoming incapable of supporting basic critical services and infrastructure as the post industrial economy necessarily leads to de-growth, privatization, federal bailouts, and austerity

>>520548975
>environmental story telling

>>520549111
checked

>>520548053
Doesn't it represent a big part of your economy?

>>520549564
God please don't let Newsom become president. He's somehow gayer than fucking Trudeau.

>>520526402 (OP)
Nigger

>>520536467
California has the largest population in recent history. People always leave the state but sure enough people always move to it.

>>520526652
Kek I am sure those Republican wonderlands like Louisiana, Mississippi and Oklahoma are the hit place to be