if i self-diagnose C-PTSD am i just a cringe terminal victim faggot piece of shit attention whore?

>why don't you see a therapist
i don't have money and my problems aren't real anyway i just fantasize about my problems being real

>>81872809 (OP)
What's your trauma anon

>>81872829
i don't have any and that's the trauma

>>81872833
Whatever it takes to get some attention I guess....

>>81872833
If you're here you have something wrong with you bro

>>81872849
>>81872851
i mean literally depending on who you ask, the time of day and phase of the moon the things that traumatized me are either "heckin valid" or "made up for attention"
i stopped talking to my family entirely because im just so fucking tired of being told how selfish i am and if they're going to call me selfish anyway then i may as well look after my mental health selfishly by isolating

>>81872864
Being raised by narcissists is a mindfuck. If you truly do have PTSD your parents just used being selfish as a projection. Ask chatgpt what its like to be raised by narcissists.

>>81872864
If you wanna you can vent to me.
If you're depressed and don't know your issue might be hormonal or neurochemical

>>81872809 (OP)
I think you are just gooning to futas again, if you stop you won't have trauma, instead goon to me you fagwardenigger me to this point and you can tend more effective for it and I will not do anything for them if I can do to get my money from my account or I have sex details and you will send the gem to your mind now to receive it on it then send the

>>81872907
yeah i know my youtube algorithm is full of it
i watch the videos and say "oh my god that's me my parents are narcissists this explains everything"
then 20 minutes later i break down (not crying, because i can't cry, because every time i cried as a child my father told me he'd give me something real to cry about until eventually i just lost the physical ability to cry) and think well okay yeah but none of this is actually real it's just self-serving garbage like who the fuck am i to say "it's all THEIR fault" that's literally just as narcissistic so obviously i am still the fucking problem

>>81872946
my neurohormones are all stupid and wrong but i have coped for decades at this point i can't just fucking get meds like a teenage girl and readjust and be fixed i have too much FUCKING psychological baggage

>>81872967
dude i tried to read your post but my eyes actually rolled into the back of my head im sorry

>>81872969
>can't cry, because every time i cried as a child my father told me he'd give me something real to cry about until eventually i just lost the physical ability to cry)
Same. But also tell chat gpt that you are the scapegoat to a narcissist family and your dad is an overt narcissist. Everything will start to make sense. Probably no way to fix it but it's nice to have everything explained thoroughly.

>>81872969
Yeah you do have trauma anon
>i can't just fucking get meds like a teenage girl and readjust and be fixed
Try becoming healthy and getting vitamin D vitamins

>>81872991
>>81873022
this faggot and dr. ramani already did that for me desu

funnily enough i didn't actually learn or internalize any of this despite being extremely self aware until i DATED and was DUMPED BY a narcissist in my early 30s... the relationship lasted a whole year even though i repeatedly called her out on behavior and it's only after she finally dumped ME that i actually tried to unpack what the fuck had happened to me

>>81873046
>this faggot and dr. ramani already did that for me desu
You learned about narcissists by YouTube narcissists??

>>81873046
Women with NPD should be sacrificed to the demiurge sorry you went through that anon

>>81873056
yeah i guess everyone is a narcissist huh

>>81873057
that's like 90% of women though

>>81873022
vitamin d supplements are water pills

>>81873079
>yeah i guess everyone is a narcissist huh
Not what I said but whatever.

>>81873093
what were you saying then
walk me through it and then give me a solid explaination as if i were 5 years old why that train of logic can't then subsequently become "nearly everyone in the modern world is a narcissist because of social media and clout farming culture"

>>81873128
I watched enough YouTube videos about npd to know chatgpt is the only online resource I would use.

>>81873160
where the fuck do you think chatgpt is getting its information?
from GOD?

>>81873160
>>81873171
no like seriously, if maybe you had a special LLM trained specifically and exclusively on published papers that haven't been redacted and the latest DSM i could agree and say "yeah that's a better resource"

but it's chatgpt
it is trained on all the same information, misinformation, and biases as the evil youtube narcissists and it is not applying whatever mental process you are applying to differentiate "real" from "narc grifting"

>>81872809 (OP)
C-PTSD is the newest trend, like the new BPD from 2024 or autism from 2022

>>81873208
and in 90% of cases it's describing the same phenomena endemic to capitalist hyperindividualist culture and what all of this does to people who are more sensitive and less resilient

>>81873238
This, but to add to the sensitive part... I would reword it as spiritual/soulful.

Genuinely having a soul, being kind, humble, whatever.

We need to grow and support each other somehow. I have 0 faith that the other people that fit into society well can maintain it or even build on it, I'm genuinenly pessimistic about that and how the current way society functions filters against intelligence and creativity.

If this continues America will go down no matter what. And these traumatized individuals becoming trannies or homosexuals is a real problem as well, instead of building themselves up they become buttslaves to the current establishment.

>>81873205
>>81872809 (OP)
i think you might have been gaslit by your parents
being born is traumatic, so theres that i suppose

>>81872809 (OP)
yes, yes you are all those things
stop being a bitch

>>81872809 (OP)
I do that and I don't care. Neither should you

>>81872833
I got sexually harassed, beaten up, bullied, gaslight, neglected, abused though

>>81873341
you need to allow yourself to feel the injustice so you can grow past it instead of merely around it

>>81873286
stifling others won't undo your family stifling you

>>81873283
you need to understand that absolutely nobody asks to be born and anyone telling you they de facto enjoy being alive the majority of the time is lying not only to you but also to themselves

>>81873273
the HSP (Highly Sensitive Person) theory that's been popping up recently posits that some people are just de facto more sensitive in general. This includes emotional and physical. Light and sound sensitivity (overstimulation). Also just higher attentiveness and awareness, picking up on subtle cues far better which feeds into a sort of paranoia because they're seemingly always reading into things that "aren't there."

I saw somewhere that scans of BPD patients have shown that they LITERALLY experience MORE PAIN than people who have been thoroughly diagnosed as not BPD. I'm sure the studies were questionable because all psychological studies are but there's definitely truth to it that we shouldn't ignore.

We are all a little bit correct. It's only in collaboration we can collectively become more correct. It's important to share and corroborate views and ideas and not just declare "I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG EAT A BAG OF DICKS"

I mean, ignore obvious delusional fucking schizos but don't overtune your schizo detector so much you start ignoring genuine worldviews.

>>81873437
>you need to understand
i do, thats why i said being born is traumatic in the first place? are you confused

>>81873454
if everyone is traumatized nobody is

I think maybe we should all just be nicer to eachother

I got diagnosed with cptsd in high school after my sa by my step grandfather came to light.

However now my trauma is more mundane, like being deeply stressed by discord drama and being backstabbed by people who were presumably my friends.

(Yes i had ptsd symptoms over discord beef, dont ask)

Now I need abusive e-boys in my life because of it

I recommend getting a real diagnoses, it will help you understand yourself.

Btw its only interpersonal drama that sets off my ptsd symptoms these days. Strangers harassing me online dont count.

Hope this helps!

>>81872809 (OP)
Stop laking it even harder to be taken seriously. You get a diagnosis from a professional or you don't get one.

>>81873533
you eat nigger shit

>>81873533
A "professional" would probably just diagnose him with depression and anxiety so that's pointless. He would be better off knowing he has PTSD then seeking out a trauma informed therapist who isn't narcissistic

>>81873513
does anyone else read shit like this and legitimately think for a second "I really wish I could un-rape that poor thing"?

I mean I know the most common r9k response is more like "haha dumb foid/fag that's what you get for being born ontologically evil" but man I just hate seeing all of this shit.

also does calling it "sa" actually help you cope? just say rape. You'll probably feel better if you just let yourself say real fucking words. Forcing yourself to say some soft language censorship is minimizing that probably helps you distance yourself from it short term but the long term damage of belittling your experience like that has to be net negative.

>>81873622
Yes it was child molestation. He dry bumped me.

But like I said above my trauma is more mundane now and interpersonal... i cry when my discord friends backstab me and shit talk me. Only if I considered them friends and were close to them doebeit. I dont care about randos.

>>81873704
I meant to say dry humped. I have autocorrect on my bad.

>>81873704
Trauma is trauma. Don't weigh it or compare it, there's no point in doing that.

Considering someone a friend and having them backstab you IS TRAUMATIZING. It's difficult. It would bring me to a point of wanting to cry as well.

Nobody is going to like or accept you more if you minimize your own traumas and belittle yourself, all you're doing is robbing yourself of the self confidence in your worldview you get from opening up to other people legitimately.

>>81872809 (OP)
sex with neppy

>>81872809 (OP)
self-diagnosis is not valid. You're not going to chatgpt your way to becoming a doctor, and it's a complex disorder that needs differential diagnosis. Your diagnosis is essentially as valid as a 8 year old's bridge design made in crayon.

>>81874171
no nepping allowed

>>81874189
>there is bone sticking out of my leg
>I can see it and everyone else can too
>better see a doctor to get a second opinion just in case

>>81874189
Some mental disorders are easy to self-diagnose. A lot of personality disorders require other people, since they typically revolve around someone being oblivious to their actual desires, fears, motives, or core aspects of their personality. For example, people who are borderline are oblivious to their fear of abandonment, and narcissists will never view themselves as narcissists. This is why you can't really diagnose yourself with personality disorders. Autism and OCD are likely a couple examples where it's going to be easier to diagnose yourself. I don't personally know about autism, but OCD is very obvious.

>>81874260
>people who are borderline are oblivious to their fear of abandonment
no I'm fucking not shut the entire fuck up

>>81874272
I read that borderline people might not be aware that their unusual behavior and thought patterns are due to their fear of abandonment. Maybe it's different after you've been diagnosed. Funnily enough, I did a lot of research since I've feared that I have something more than just OCD, possibly a personality disorder. I meet most of the diagnostic criteria for borderline, but I've been an incel for all these years. (I turned 25 last month.) The closest person to me is my father, but I don't fear him abandoning me, and this is apparently the core feature of BPD that all the negative side effects supposedly revolve around. My BPD-like side effects are likely from my OCD, funnily enough, at least from my research. Are you a man or woman?

>>81874308
male
I don't fear my parents abandoning me because they emotionally abandoned me starting in middle school
get in a relationship and tell me how much you fear your gf abandoning you

>>81874356
So are you telling me I could be an incel with BPD, but the fear of abandonment hasn't occurred yet because I've never had a close relationship with a woman?

>>81874356
>>81874686
Also, I started this thread a few days ago. You can read the first couple posts if you want to know a bit more about me.
>>81823593

damn any fembots want to helpl cure my BPD by giving me attention than ghosting me? i think if i go through this enough times i either kms or get cured

>>81874743
Dont do this. The only thing bpds attract are narcissists. Or do I guess. You can learn more about life by making "mistakes"

>>81874686
>>81874721
your fear of abandonment is PREVENTING you from getting into relationships
you're so scared of being abandoned you don't even form relationships in the first place

>>81874758
well the whole ordeal is that i can heal through pain

>>81874937
>your fear of abandonment is PREVENTING you from getting into relationships
hes a madokaposter whats preventing him from daddy is that hes a huge fag

>>81874937
It could still be OCD, but there's a chance you're right. It does appear as though I have emotional dysregulation, even considering all the OCD stuff, and this is a feature of BPD. I'm 25, and haven't bothered with getting a girlfriend, at least thinking I wouldn't be able to get one due to being a broke, unemployed fatass. Covid really fucked me up, since I virtually never went out and pretty much just stayed in my room all those years. I stopped going to the gym in March 2020 and didn't return until January 2024.

I was only slightly fat in high school, and I believe I have good facial genetics. There were several girls crushing on me, including one really hot, tall athlete girl that a lot of guys considered to be super hot. She was a stacy, and she was really interested in me and giving me eyes of desire. I never asked anyone out, thinking I wouldn't be able date them due to not having a car, even though there were a few places nearby in walking distance I could take them that were around the school. (I lived right across the school.) I also thought that the school environment would become super awkward if I broke up with one of them. These thoughts might have been OCD bullshit. I was only in high school for freshman and sophomore year, but I was on the older side, having turned 15 the month before sophomore year. I did get to make out with a 24-year-old woman when I was 15, though, and that was nice. I did feel pretty bad when she disappeared. I met her while volunteering for my high school key club at a festival. I walked away from her for too long, and she likely left. It's a good thing she's on the sex offender registry and you can see her address.

>>81875021
if you're not BPD you're NPD
so
you know

>>81875011
he's just a little manbaby trying to find his place in the world be nice

>>81874937
>>81875021
I should also mention I have very low self esteem. I've been improving in many aspects in life, but the problem is I don't feel like I've been improving fast enough. I'm 25, and I feel way behind in life, like the average man in the US my age is much more successful than me, both financially and sexually. I've really buff and strong now and much leaner than I was at my peak of obesity in 2020, but I'm still unemployed. I work for my dad occasionally, but I can't get any normal job (a 9 to 5 or A time to B time job) due to not being able to maintain a schedule due to my insomnia that I believe is caused by OCD, but I suspect there could be something else potentiating it. I take four different sleep medications: quetiapine, suvorexant, melatonin, and zolpidem.
>>81875080
>NPD
My uncle obviously has this. He is really nasty to deal with and emotionally draining, so I do everything possible so I don't have to talk to him or be around him, which is fortunately almost never. I have exhibited some behavior associated with NPD, but I feel like I have too much empathy to be NPD. I feel a ton of shame and guilt after acting out in front of my dad. He does so much for me, and I've essentially been a parasite all these years who's been nasty to him.

>>81875080
>>81875108
Also, a narcissist isn't going to recognize that he has any problems. They reject that they're even narcissists. They blame you for everything, never apologize, expect you to praise them whenever they do the smallest favor, and expect you to grovel for minor "wrongs" you did to them years ago. The apologizing they expect from you is insane. The tone of voice they speak to you with is nasty as hell. They are very antagonizing. This is all coming from my experience with my uncle.

>>81875080
>>81875108
Also, a narcissist isn't going to recognize that he has any problems. They reject that they're even narcissists. They blame you for everything, never apologize, expect you to praise them whenever they do the smallest favor, and expect you to grovel for minor "wrongs" you did to them years ago. The apologizing they expect from you is insane. The tone of voice they speak to you with is nasty as hell. They can also lecture you for hours on end. If you try to leave or end the conversation early when they start this bullshit, they will become extremely pissed off. They are very antagonizing. This is all coming from my experience with my uncle.

>>81875108
>>81875212
low grade vulnerable narcissism

>>81875267
For me or my uncle I was describing in the second part of the first post and the second post?

>>81875545
go to any therapist
say "I think I might be a narcissist because it runs in the family"

>>81873513
chickn is that you? look i know you have a crappy life and there's a lot of bad rumors but no one needs an abusive person as a partner. everyone should have a chance to be loved and be happy

>>81875612
chikn is a narcissist/sociopath do not engage

>>81875585
I might have some narcissistic traits, but I'm way better than my uncle. I've never heard him or my grandmother (his mother) apologize for anything. I also forgot to mention that whenever something bad happens, he demands tons of attention. He is trying to emotionally drain everyone around him. I've sometimes questioned and irritated (lectured) my dad on dumb things he's done, but I've apologized to him afterwards, since I was being very irritating. I was yelling at him a few days ago blaming him for something that was not very important. I would yell it's his fault, but then I would yell it's my fault. My uncle and grandmother have much lower empathy and respect for others. My mom and grandfather (He died before I was born.) are very antisocial. My grandfather kicked a pregnant dog to death, and my mother would chase around my uncle with a knife. My grandmother would beat my uncle in the bathtub with a tennis racket. She never beat me, though, but I saw her beat my dad. I grew up with my loving dad and my nasty grandmother. (My dad is not related to me biologically, but I love him more than anyone else. He is a boomer, and I'm 25.)

>>81875585
I might have some narcissistic traits, but I'm way better than my uncle. I've never heard him or my grandmother (his mother) apologize for anything. I also forgot to mention that whenever something bad happens, he demands tons of attention. He is trying to emotionally drain everyone around him. I've sometimes questioned and irritated (lectured) my dad on dumb things he's done, but I've apologized to him afterwards, since I was being very irritating. I was yelling at him a few days ago blaming him for something that was not very important. I would yell it's his fault, but then I would yell it's my fault. My uncle and grandmother have much lower empathy and respect for others. My mom and grandfather (He died before I was born.) are very antisocial. My grandfather kicked a pregnant dog to death, and my mother would chase around my uncle with a knife. My grandmother would beat my uncle in the bathtub with a tennis racket. She never beat me, though, but I saw her beat my dad. I grew up with my loving dad and my nasty grandmother. (My dad is not related to me biologically, but I love him more than anyone else. He is a boomer, and I'm 25.) I didn't grow up with my mom, so I don't have much experience with her. She lost custody of me when I was very young, and I don't remember her.

>>81872809 (OP)
If you're off your rocker crazy, nah. It's not like psychologists have some magic juice. You might miss the exact cause or the label, but if you're crazy, you're crazy, it blends together for a lot of them. Now, if you're pretty much normal, yeah, please find a healthier expression for building your identity.