I feel like I have this underlying hatred for women. I may find them sexually attractive, and I may genuinely like some of them if they're nice to me, but I will always occasionally devalue them just for being women or at least have some level of suspicion. My self esteem is also crushed at the thought of flirting with a woman, especially a young, attractive woman. Men who are successful with young attractive women, especially if they're not chad, piss me off. How did they get so lucky?

>>82115784
>but unfortunately you're probably too short for that.

I'm 5'11. I suspect that this is neutral, and apparently, there was a study done where they did confirm this suspicion of mine. Peak male attractiveness in height is achieved somewhere between 6'2 and 6'3, which is pretty damn tall, but you're pretty much in a neutral zone between 5'10 and 6'1. I am likely around a year away from a chad-tier body, but I will have a bit of gyno, not that most women would notice a bit of gyno and be turned off by it. My pecs are pretty large. I can bench 315 for 7.

>Absolutely. Chad doesn't have to pay for women. Women generally provide for Chad.

Women generally have less money than men. Even if I were a 7 to 8/10 chad, I doubt a 7 to 8/10 stacy would want to provide for me. She would be expecting a bit more out of the relationship. I'm pretty certain, unless I got super lucky, that I would need to date down, but hopefully not something like two or three levels down.

Dating a 3/10 in her 40s would be doable, but I don't think I'd feel too good about myself. I am mentally ill, and although I receive NEETbux, I'm still dependent on my boomer dad, and if anything happens to him, I'm pretty fucked, so I feel like I actually need to find a provider girlfriend. People are much poorer than they used to be due to things like rising housing prices. What I would need is a woman who could provide housing for me, and the NEETbux I receive isn't even enough to take care of myself, so I would effectively be asking for a lot. I started this thread earlier. >>82104392

>>81876310
>Most young chicks are into older men than them.
I have OCD, and I'm a loser financially. I receive NEETbucks, but I can't hold a job, other than occasionally helping my dad at his job (He doesn't work every day.), and the NEETbucks totals to around $1250 per month, so this is very income, which is kryptonite for any long term dating with most women. I have insomnia caused by OCD that keeps me from being able to hold any schedule. I can't work a 9 to 5 or any A time to B time job, which is pretty much every job that doesn't require you to have any special skills and most jobs that do.

I've had one anon on here tell me that he had a younger woman, I believe college-aged, essentially simping for him to be her boyfriend. She was very obese, so I'm guessing she thought she would need to pay to have a better looking boyfriend. She was paying for dates and buying him things.

I've been learning how to cook from my dad who's a chef. (I work with him in the kitchen.) I could offer a woman to do all the house chores, including cooking, and essentially offer her myself for sex. (This sounds super fucked up, and I'm certain it will turn off a lot of women, so I would never mention it irl with a woman, but I'm pretty sure women find value in the body of a man.)

My dad is a boomer, and I financially depend on him, but there is no money in my immediate family (I have distant family in Poland, but I'm based in the US.), and aside from potentially living at my mom's (Likely without my own room or privacy, and my OCD would go nuts.), I'm really fucked if something happened to my dad.
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>>81875585
I might have some narcissistic traits, but I'm way better than my uncle. I've never heard him or my grandmother (his mother) apologize for anything. I also forgot to mention that whenever something bad happens, he demands tons of attention. He is trying to emotionally drain everyone around him. I've sometimes questioned and irritated (lectured) my dad on dumb things he's done, but I've apologized to him afterwards, since I was being very irritating. I was yelling at him a few days ago blaming him for something that was not very important. I would yell it's his fault, but then I would yell it's my fault. My uncle and grandmother have much lower empathy and respect for others. My mom and grandfather (He died before I was born.) are very antisocial. My grandfather kicked a pregnant dog to death, and my mother would chase around my uncle with a knife. My grandmother would beat my uncle in the bathtub with a tennis racket. She never beat me, though, but I saw her beat my dad. I grew up with my loving dad and my nasty grandmother. (My dad is not related to me biologically, but I love him more than anyone else. He is a boomer, and I'm 25.) I didn't grow up with my mom, so I don't have much experience with her. She lost custody of me when I was very young, and I don't remember her.

>>81873103
Gen Z GIRLS? Over 2/3rds of young women under 35 have a boyfriend while less than 1/3rd of young men under 35 have a girlfriend. Being single might be more common among gen z women than it used to be, but it's way lower among gen z men. With these statistics, there are seemingly 2 girlfriends for every 1 boyfriend. And remember, this is dating. Hooking up is even crazier.

Women will always be hypergamous, but when it comes to dating / long term dating, men will typically try to get a woman as close to their SMV (mostly looks) as possible, but still having to go below their SMV most of the time, while women have to, at least in their eyes, take what they can get. It's the opposite for short term dating / hooking up. Men will typically hook up with women who are noticeably below their level in looks, while women do the opposite. With hooking up, it's the men who take what they can get while the women seemingly get whatever they want.

As for the OCD, I still haven't gotten a driver license at 25, and I can't maintain any sort of schedule. I do receive NEETbucks, but I'm low income, even though I save through living with my dad. I also have some obesity that I've gradually been getting rid of over the years that has lowered my SMV, and this was also caused by OCD. The OCD also directly crushes my self esteem. It is known for people with OCD to have much lower self esteems, even when they're relatively successful. So, I'm broke, fat, and have social autism, and it's all because of the OCD. I'm not a quitter; I'm always working on improving myself, but it would be irrational to say that OCD isn't the biggest reason why I'm in such a shitty position in life.

The thing I'm wondering is if there are any mental illnesses that result in men being incels and women being whores with high body counts. Tons of mentally ill loser men just end up being broke 3 to 6/10 incels while women with those same characteristics seemingly end up being whores with high body counts.

Essentially, if chad is low income, or even middle income in a lot of cases, chad is still barred from dating stacy, the only exception being really crazy trashy women who were born into low income families and are only attractive due to genetics and a lack of obesity. In the world of dating, especially in 2025 (and it's only getting worse), the only men who can really date stacy are wealthy men. Low income chad is mostly relegated to 4 to 6/10 beckies, even though he has the potential to be successful at casual sex, but only with beckies, aside from the occasional stacy if he's persistent.

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>>81651931
>while Chads get to have sex with everyone.
I imagine it's still difficult for chads to get laid with stacies, unless they're rich, of course. Rich chads are going to have the easiest time with women.

Even if you dedicated your life to getting rich and were very disciplined and intelligent, statistically, you most likely wouldn't enter the top 1% in your lifetime.