i work full time but cant get my ow apartment here in goymany wtf is this shit

>>81892407 (OP)
How? You have uni students who somehow manage to survive on 500e that they get from working on the side. To be fair they live usually together with some roommates

>>81892420
no fucking idea, i have 2500 after taxes and apply for apartments under 1k but always get rejected, has to be personal or something

you need a goymate

>>81892443
i hate other people, and i have enough money to live alone landfucks just hate me

>>81892430
>but always get rejected
The market for them is fucked and they get to be incredibly picky who they choose for renting it out, happened to a friend too recently

>>81892407 (OP)
modern housing market and economy, get used to it cause its not going away any time soon. oh happy days! you're better off buying land and building your own house though you cant do that in yurop

>>81892473
the fuck am i working for then if i cant leave my parents basement? there has to be a way wtf i cant stand this place any longer

>>81892456
but wtf are they picky about? i make more than enough money, a stable job and no debt

>>81892456
did your friend find something?

>>81892473
you can buy land tho, just that you have to buy it from someone else since most of it is already owned by someone
>>81892494
>but wtf are they picky about?
too young
too old
not german enough
smoker
single
not single
job is shit
job is too good
schufa fucked you over


everyone of them has their own weird standards

>>81892519
he found a nice 2 room apartment for like 1k-1.2k tho, with the prospects that he'll make more monies in the near future and keep living there fore a longer while

>>81892534
happy for him, did it take long?

>>81892525
>everyone of them has their own weird standards
wtf is their problems just take my fucking goy sheckels fuck this gay earth

>>81892473
also about land yeah i dont have enough goybucks for that

>>81892494
>the fuck am i working for then if i cant leave my parents basement?
good question anon. good question. i guess you can save up and move to another country if its that bad where you live, but the situation is pretty much shit everywhere you go. or you could buy a camp van and live in that. have you tried using an agency yet?
>>81892525
>you can buy land tho
yeah i know, but the bureaucracy needed to actually build stuff on it is the problem. it has to be a certain type of land, in a certain place, and you need a permit from the city/region you live in, has to follow certain regulations etc. at least here.
>>81892570
>also about land yeah i dont have enough goybucks for that
then i guess you could try saving up for that too

>>81892597
>then i guess you could try saving up for that too
cheapest land i found here was around 100k, id need to save up for around 40 years

>i guess you can save up and move to another country if its that bad where you live
guess thats an option i can look into, nothing despite my work is really keeping me in germany. would be atleast a comfy gold to save up for

>have you tried using an agency yet?
didnt even know that there agencys helping wagies to get apartments. got any experience with them?

>>81892570
>did it take long?
3-4 months
>>81892597
>but the bureaucracy needed
yeah fair

>>81892407 (OP)
look at all that rural land you lost. you probably could've have purchased a nice little countryside home there. instead the allied powers unfairly raped your country.

>>81892664
>cheapest land i found here was around 100k
well that fucking sucks. nevermind that then.
>nothing despite my work is really keeping me in germany
how bad is it to live there? like, price of stuff wise, people things to do etc. i was considering to move in germany in the future.
>would be atleast a comfy gold to save up for
its what im doing so yeah, better than no goal at all i guess
>got any experience with them?
no, not personally. though, most of the time the fee they ask you isnt cheap (since they're private), and a lot of the offers are mostly high end stuff. still i think it might be worth looking into if you're desperate.

>>81892743
>how bad is it to live there?
>price of stuff wise
apartments are around 1k-1,5k for 50-80m2, groceries idk i can live on around 150 a month obviously depends on the person. houses xd i gave up im not a millionaire. job market is turbo fucked even with a degree so me making 2500 after taxes is my 20s is considered a high earner and im pretty sure im getting laid of this or next year, apllied to over 100 jobs and nothing. want anything more specific?

>people
either stuck up autistic boomers or niggers and arabs everywhere, if you go into the city youll think youre in a third world country. browns and nigs are unpleasant and aggresive and germans are asocial or arrogant

>things to do
cant tell you much i only go outside to work, i guess in the city you have restaurants cinemas bard whatever, but prices are out of the ass inflated rn, or atleast all the normies at my work constantly complain about beer getting to expensive

can only speak for cologne, but from what i heard from friends and family the same applies to berlin, dusseldorf, bonn and frankfurt. desu everything here applies to everywhere in the west


>its what im doing so yeah, better than no goal at all i guess
how you came up with wanting to live in germany? never thought of this place as a popular goal to move to. or do you have other places you considered? where are you rn if you dont mind me asking.

>still i think it might be worth looking into if you're desperate.
iam that desperate, thank you i will try, not like i can lose anything


just realized how much i typed ups sorry

>>81892891
>around 150
typo meant 250

>>81892891
>job market is turbo fucked even with a degree
i fear thats a problem everywhere nowdays... fucking sucks. from what i understand at least they pay slightly more there than in the average eu country. also, you guys have minimum wages right?
>want anything more specific?
how's public transport there? and what about healthcare?
>if you go into the city youll think youre in a third world country
boy i sure do love inclusivity!!! was hoping at least there would be more young people around outside of where i live cause everyone is old here but, yeah, i guess not.
>but prices are out of the ass inflated rn
yeah i figured. it is what it is i guess. funny how everything is getting more and more expensive whilst the average pay only gets lower. and all all the boomers have to say is "uh muh just get a better job". also, aesthetically wise, do you think german cities look nice?
>how you came up with wanting to live in germany?
higher salaries, better public services (i assume at least) hopefully less annoying people but from what you've told me i guess not. i have other places in mind, germany is just one of them. ideally, i'd like to live in switzerland or sweden. but im from pizza land sadly.
>thank you i will try, not like i can lose anything
then i wish you luck anon. do you just want any type of apartment or do you have some standards?

>>81893113
>from what i understand at least they pay slightly more there than in the average eu country.
yeah the pay is good for eu standards but good luck getting a job, i guess blue collars are in demand if you want that, or maybe you have some big experience or degree

>also, you guys have minimum wages right?
12,82 a hour, or after taxed around 1500 a month when working fulltime. but you cant live off that unless you live with goymates. heres a big trend of minimum wage wagies quitting to live off gibs. you get around 600 and they pay for your aparment, not really much worse than 1500 if you 50-70% of its gonna go to rent

>how's public transport there?
around 60 bucks will you pretty much get you anywhere with train and bus inside the city, there are student/job tickets around 40 or lower. theyre unreliable, often being too late or not coming at all, and the public transport wagies keep going on strike like atleast 4 times a year for a week. if you want to travel between cities its around 20-40 to drive once

>and what about healthcare?
2 class system. the public "free" one, around 16% of your wage goes there in taxes. you get most services for free, but with long wait times as everything is filled with nigs and boomers who go for every couth. you can come unnanounced to a standard doctor and maybe wait 0-3 hours, more specific services like psychotherapy can take months to get. meds mostly get paid, sometimes you have to pay like 10 bucks yourself for humiliation
also private healthcare, around 200-1k a month, you get better treatment, more services and can skip wait times as doctors make more money from your visit
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>>81893113
>>81893326
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>boy i sure do love inclusivity!!!
i doubt you can escape it inside the eu

>more young people around
if you learn arabic or turkish sure

>boomers have to say is "uh muh just get a better job
same here dw, only they block of every high paying job because they have old work contracts that almost make it impossible to get fired


>do you think german cities look nice?
a few spots that havent gotten that modern look are really beautifully, they still have old buildings with that traditional old german look, though theyre usually more expensive. the other spots have the usual urban city look

>pizza land sadly
are things that bad over there? worse than what im saying about goymany? dont know about public services in italy so i cant really compare them


>do you just want any type of apartment or do you have some standards?
desu at this point i take anything, only standard would be no ground floor aparment, id be too paranoid of people watching inside

>switzerland or sweden
i think sweden is the same just colder. switzerland pays even better and is (for now) filled with less nigs since theyre not in the eu, but jobs are even more stingy and the arrogance of the average switz is a german boomer x3


anthing else youd like to know?

>>81892407 (OP)
They are trying to nomalize share housing even for people working full time now, if you don't like it you can move to the country and there will be a line of 100 people behind you willing to take your place. Its going to something like what Hong Kong had to deal with from at least the 70's. For me it feels like it just got so much worse in barely 10 years and that this is just the new normal.

>>81892494
I've had to move back with my parents, they've gotten a lot better the last 2 years. I think a lot of people just have to do it even if it sux. Main thing is they can see I'm working and not just waking up at 11am watching online videos until 4pm like when I was a neet, they were really starting to go nuts for a bit then. Very recently living at home seems to have lost its shame, it was really embarrassing in 2019 or earlier.

I can see with some of the auctions that people are getting literal fomo and think they will just never afford a house so have to overpay, not true, living overseas is an option too.

>>81893326
>i guess blue collars are in demand if you want that
office jobs are the last type of jobs i wanna do so.... i dont have a degree yet but hopefully ill manage to finish the one im getting in 2 years and then find a job in the restaurant industry.
>but you cant live off that unless you live with goymates
oh wow. 1500 a month here is like, almost mid tier class lmao. we dont have a minimum wage and i guess rents here are not as expensive unless you live in huge cities.
>quitting to live off gibs
basically what i've been doing because its just more convenient than actually getting a min wage job. though it only works for a year or so cause after a time they start lowering the amount of money you get every month until you get none and you're forced to find a job or go homeless. how much would you pay for rent if you found a place? like 1k?
>theyre unreliable, often being too late or not coming at all
ah so like everywhere else in the eu i see. i was hoping they'd work at least there. not a fan of having to drive to work everyday especially since fuel has been going up in price.
>with long wait times as everything is filled with nigs and boomers
yeah its all the same here, except sometimes even if you wait you're not guaranteed to receive treatment. last time that i got a bad cut on my hand i had to go get stitched up from my mom's friend who'se a nurse, because even after waiting for 6 hours in ER they didnt do anything. but at least its free haha!
>psychotherapy can take months to get
main reason why i dont even bother to get medicated, its faster to just kms i guess.
>i doubt you can escape it inside the eu
it is what it is. i hope i can move to a more rich country like switzerland cuz maybe there's less there.
>they still have old buildings with that traditional old german look
ah i love those. what about nature n stuff? you got a lot of parks?
>id be too paranoid of people watching inside
there's always curtains yknow?

>>81893658
>then find a job in the restaurant industry.
no idea about this industry but best of luck to you pizza fren :3
but a warning would be that you should learn some german if you decide to come over, people barely speak english here

>as expensive unless you live in huge cities.
oh how expensive are they? didnt even know that wages are that low compared to here

>after a time they start lowering the amount of money
they only do that here if you dont seek employment, but i think they can only lower it by a max of 30%

>how much would you pay for rent if you found a place? like 1k?
i set my budget to 1250 now, half of my salary

>but at least its free haha!
yeah "free" haha, good luck that you knew a nurse

>main reason why i dont even bother to get medicated
what do you need to get medicated for? hope nothing too bad

>what about nature n stuff? you got a lot of parks?
parks are plenty here, small or big, pretty much from everywhere you can find a park within 20-30 minutes, there usually clean and nigs tend to avoid them. i live in a ghetto area and even here i can find 4 different parks within that time frame

>there's always curtains yknow?
but then id never get sunlight. also i have some fear that its easy to break in when living in ground level. idk i just have this uneasy feeling about living like that, i think its because i always lived in a higher floor


>>81893650
i just want to live at my own place, i work full time but i always feel guilty or that my parents are ashamed of me if i play vidya or watch anime in the evening despite knowing that they dont care aslong as i work. but working feels pointless if i still have to live like that. you said theyve gotten better the last 2 years, hope it gets even better for you

>>81892697
No, those Krauts deserved it. Heil Churchill

>>81893954
>no idea about this industry but best of luck to you pizza fren :3
heheh thank you. i will try my best. from what i've heard, chefs and such are usually always on high demand and so it shouldnt be too hard for me to find a job in another country as long as im good at what i do. what kind of job do you have?
>you should learn some german
oh i know, im already studying it! its... not easy.
>oh how expensive are they?
hm, i think they're at least 1k, but probably more than that. i have a friend that lives in genoa and a shitty apartment there is like 1k a month.
>they only do that here if you dont seek employment
do they also force you to accept jobs if you find offerings?
>i set my budget to 1250 now
holy shit lmao. thats enough for a person to survive here. (not live, just barely survive). also, which country would you like to move in if you could
>what do you need to get medicated for?
i'd need medication for ADHD and depression but yknow. just gotta thug it out i guess.
>pretty much from everywhere you can find a park within 20-30 minutes
thats good. i do love parks myself and i like nature. do you guys have a lot of mountains and forests or is the terrain mostly flat?
>its easy to break in when living in ground level
well yeah you have a point. apartments can have really annoying neighbours though. you ever dealt with something like that?

>>81894461
>chefs and such are usually always on high demand
guess people always want to eat tasty stuff. but arent the work hours fucked in that industry?

>what kind of job do you have?
jewish daycare office job in ecommerce, i take care of the amazon store and the webstores of the company. most of it is just routine stuff checking everything and dealing with amazons bs. boring and i hate it but i guess it pays nice for now.

>oh i know, im already studying it
already ahead of all the arabs living here for years haha, but yeah german is a bitch, anything you have most trouble with?

>apartment there is like 1k a month.
you said around 1500 salary is almost mid tier class, wtf are these prices then

>thats enough for a person to survive here
im a bit dumb you mean i put too little or too much for rent?

>also, which country would you like to move in if you could
like you mentioned before switz would be good for the pay and less nigs despite the people there being weird. but i think id like Cyprus, low taxes, less globohomo like, better but somtimes hot weather and more open people.
but i also always dreamed of living somewhere in the country side, away from the urban cities. where would you go if money didnt matter?

>just gotta thug it out i guess
damn man hang on hope it gets better. if that helps youd get meds for chronic stuff like that paid if you move here

>do you guys have a lot of mountains and forests or is the terrain mostly flat?
mostfly flat in the north, lots of forrest in the west and in the south there are the alps full of mountains, so im sure youd find any place that suits you. hows the nature in your city? italy has good beaches right?


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>>81894461
>>81894829
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>you ever dealt with something like that?
holy fuck yeah arabs that scream no matter the time of day and literally lack the iq to understand that you can hear them through walls when you tell them that. and people living with 4 kids in a 2 room aparment holy fuck. i got noise cancelling headphones and earplugs and its the best investment i ever made
got problems like that yourself?
dream would be a house so no close neighbours but yeah xd

>>81892407 (OP)
anon I read the thread and I can say nothing but express my sympathies and advise you to not hoard moonies because they might soon be worthless
I'm a landlord, barely, as I rent out a warehouse at 4 times below the minimum price
I keep tabs on land and housing market and it's just the worst
frankly, wasting 1K or more for a cubicle called an apartment is stupid and humiliating, and I would live with my parents if I were you
keep a lookout for this October for some changes in the market
I'm so sorry anon, I wish you could have a happy life
I can only offer you some land that my friend offered me, in tasmania
it's not a joke, it's free and the climate is mild, not hot, and it's rural but there is a community
but I assume you can't afford to build a house so that's pointless
over here there are state backed initiatives for affordable housing for young people and they are building apartments all around me
if you're willing to relocate to Croatia (lmao) then maybe you can have better luck here, although the prices are the same
man, I wanted to adopt neets but the economy is so shit I can't do anything except fat piss shit and die in the heat

>>81894989
>I can say nothing but
>proceeds to write a paragraph
damn I'm retarded wtf
have a bump

>>81894989
thanks for the sympathies fren. i know spending 1k for an apartment is a waste but i just cant stand living if my parents anymore, feel like im going insan here. and as you said the money is becoming worthless anyways so might as well spend some of it

>keep a lookout for this October for some changes in the market
ive no idea about the real estate market but thanks ill keep an eye open

>Croatia (lmao)
lmao, also yeah no idea how to build a house

>man, I wanted to adopt neets
a little neet farm haha

>>81895001
kek, but thank you i like reading kind words

sorry sweaty but what is a house for you is a lucrative investment and speculation opportuinity for mr bernstein

>>81894829
>but arent the work hours fucked in that industry?
yeah i guess so, but i dont really value my health anyway so its not a problem for me lol. besides i have no social life anyway.
>daycare office job in ecommerce
i see. seems indeed boring but at least its comfy. what job would you like to do?
>anything you have most trouble with?
i'd say probably the grammar. you guys have so many special rules on how to say and write stuff, 10 billion different pronouns for objects and people... and lets not go into the length of words. its a lot of stuff to remember. at least its easy to speak though.
>i put too little or too much for rent?
its a LOT. i havent looked into apartments here because its suifuel, but since the average income of a "poor" person is like 1400 moneys each month, you'd be using 90% of it on rent if it was that high here.
>Cyprus
that seems pretty nice. plus its an island so you can always go to the sea if you wanna.
>where would you go if money didnt matter?
anywhere in the mountains, honestly. i dream of owning a cabin somewhere in the mountains and live there with my gf and some animals like chickens n stuff. i hate cities.
>if that helps youd get meds for chronic stuff like that paid if you move here
yeah, that would help. though for me its more of an ethical issue, i dont really trust meds that much.
>hows the nature in your city?
bit lacking, there arent many parks. though my city isnt really big, so its easy to reach the outskirts and there's a bunch of forests there. sadly the closest mountains are like 100 km from where i live so that sucks. i really wish i could see them more.
>italy has good beaches right?
ive only been to the beach like 4 times in my life so i couldnt really tell you lol. i guess we do!
>i got noise cancelling headphones and earplugs
honestly same. best thing i have ever bought
>got problems like that yourself?
the dudes living next to my apartment have a bird that ALWAYS chirps and i want to shoot it.

>>81895052
the big g does want everyone in cities and apartments and I expect, although I can't say for certain, that it will become easier to get one when the economy goes kaput and we transition to fully digital with social and carbon scores
family houses are being sold, apartment buildings are being built, it's the new default housing for everyone
do you want to buy a new apartment? if so, are you looking at new construction projects? you gotta secure an apartment early
look for more rural areas or suburbs where they're expanding the city, so to speak
you'll see people move in when the building isn't 100% finished yet
so def try that, don't be shy to contact the persons involved, nothing strange when housing and your future life is involved
Owner/Corporation, Regional manager, Property manager, Assistant manager and/or bookkeeper, Leasing consultants
there's always info online where the apartments are marketed early, or even on the info board at the construction site lol

>>81895140
>i dont really value my health anyway so its not a problem for me lol. besides i have no social life anyway.
i know im not in a position to tell you anything but please take care of your health, especially when already suffering from depression and adhd, you can always get a new job but you only have one body.
on the social life thing... im kinda in the same boat lol
but atleast it sounds like you enjoy your job so thats great.

>what job would you like to do?
no clue, tried construction when i was younger but hated it (plus have fucked wrists), office shit is soulsucking and boring. i always wanted to be some artistfag of some kind, music or writing mostly, but i grew out of expecting making money out of it. i send out a novel trying to get it published so maybe theres hope, but yeah theres no real job that im interested in so i just try to make it from investing

>you'd be using 90% of it on rent if it was that high here.
fucking financial suicide, gibs would be better

>you can always go to the sea if you wanna
fucking comfy, love the sea and beaches

>anywhere in the mountains, honestly. i dream of owning a cabin somewhere in the mountains and live there with my gf and some animals like chickens n stuff.
beautiful dream, seems we both love nature over faggot cities, hope you get there one day fren, if you consider germany somewhere near the alps would be great for you then

> i dont really trust meds that much
oh i see hope you find your peace without them and stay healthy. i suppose its because of all the jewery going on?

>sadly the closest mountains are like 100 km from where i live so that sucks. i really wish i could see them more.
damn that sucks. you really love the mountains from what i can tell, you like the peace of them or is there something else?

>the dudes living next to my apartment have a bird that ALWAYS chirps and i want to shoot it.
wtf who the fuck owns a bird, free that thing from its misery of being caged

>>81895223
>do you want to buy a new apartment? if so, are you looking at new construction projects? you gotta secure an apartment early
i applied for new construction projetcs being finished late this year and through out 2026, but heard nothing back yet
i also got a WBS, some certificate here that pretty much tells big real estate companies that your poor and have to be prefered for certain houses/aparments, and the new buildings often fall under that category

>so def try that, don't be shy to contact the persons involved
i def will try that thank you, i always just send my stuff over the company site and hoped for the best with the new buildings

>>81895139
line must go up, but my smile goes down :(

>>81895402
I'm sorry, anon, I didn't know you actually put in so much effort into apartment hunting. I went and blabbered all that, assuming things. You said you are desperate and so I would like to recommend moving to one of the ASEAN countries as a last resort. My hobby is reading a ton of documents relating to the Indo-Pacific and ASEAN and keeping tabs on its development, and while the knowledge is too broad, as I don't know the specific market situations of each country and its various districts, I know there are a lot of investments being poured in, a lot of (digital) infrastructure being built, and as the global power is shifting, it is becoming a center of economic growth and innovation. Maybe, just maybe, you could land a nice job there in the tech industry, or choose something new, and most importantly land a nice big apartment that you can hopefully keep forever. Obviously, it's a big culture shock but there are westerners there and it's better than nothing.

>>81895347
>you can always get a new job but you only have one body.
thanks anon, but i dont plan to live long so its okay.
>but atleast it sounds like you enjoy your job so thats great
i do! i like cooking for other people and seeing them happy makes me happy. just wish things werent so complicated nowdays when it comes to jobs nowdays.
>office shit is soulsucking and boring
yeah, i dont think i could ever do an office job.
>artistfag
have you ever played an instrument? i also would've been something like that if it was actually possible to make money with it
>novel trying to get it published so maybe theres hope
oh thats pretty cool! whats the novel about? good luck with getting it published!
>love the sea and beaches
im more of a mountain guy as you can guess, but i dont mind beaches if there's no one in them
>hope you get there one day fren
thanks, you too anon. would be awesome to live in the alps yeah, i've been to the dolomites too once and its honestly the most beautiful place ive ever seen in my life.
>i suppose its because of all the jewery going on?
yeah, and also because i know people that say it just made their lives worse. in the lung run meds make you completely apathethic, and besides, thinking that my survival might depend on a thing outside of my control kinda makes me really anxious.
>you like the peace of them or is there something else?
i like the peace yes, the climate, the animals, the looks, everything. i wish i was born somewhere where i could see the mountains everyday.
>wtf who the fuck owns a bird, free that thing from its misery of being caged
ikr? i love birds i think they're cute, but keeping one in a cage is evil. besides this one is really fucking annoying too. there's also an old lady which is really nice but owns one of those small dogs that bark all the time and god its obnoxious. do you have pets btw?

>>81895846
>thanks anon, but i dont plan to live long so its okay.
what? why? hutao would want you to live a long and happy life before using her services
> just wish things werent so complicated nowdays when it comes to jobs nowdays.
happy to hear you found your passion and better peoples days with it! jobs are fucked yeah, but you said yourself chefs are in demand so there is some hope
>yeah, i dont think i could ever do an office job
worst are the people there, they cant accept that work is pointless so they make a fuss out everything, stay away from there
>have you ever played an instrument?
i play piano a bit but only started around half a year ago, most of music experience is making beats and mixing, and its more about music theory and having a good ear than playing instruments.
>oh thats pretty cool! whats the novel about? good luck with getting it published!
haha thanks for the luck but i dont really expect anything, especially since novels usually want woman not white guys. just happy i managed to finish something
its about two homeless woman acting as war refugees so they get free housing and stuff from the goverment. one of them just wants to neet in peace while the other is constantly worried that theyre act is gonna fall apart. the neet always needs to make sure the other girl doesnt fuck up and the worried girl is more extroverted and wants to get the neet out of the house as sort of "repaying" for the house, whichs keeps creating circumstances that makes the extrovert girl notice that shit isnt right and slowly lose her bluepilled point of view

>>81895846
>>81896133
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>im more of a mountain guy as you can guess, but i dont mind beaches if there's no one in them
yeah thats always the worst about nature, other people. dont have much experiences with mountains, though i love going for walks in the park so i imagine itd be like that but even more calming
>i've been to the dolomites too once and its honestly the most beautiful place ive ever seen in my life.
holy shit just googled that place and it looks like a windows wallpaper, so envious of people living there, beautiful scenery and close communites. we are gonna make it fren and escape this city hell
> in the lung run meds make you completely apathethic, and besides, thinking that my survival might depend on a thing outside of my control kinda makes me really anxious.
sad to hear that meds make it worse when supposed to help, really hope you find other ways to deal with your problems, you really seem too awesome to deal with shit like that. i like that mindset though, not making yourself depended on jewish pills, like some subscription for living. know someone who had chemo and its always a weird feeling seeing the amout of meds required to keep living
>i like the peace yes, the climate, the animals, the looks, everything
uhh whats your favorite animal? for me its probably butterflies. you make mountains sounds so cool!
>but owns one of those small dogs that bark all the time and god its obnoxious
i cant stand dog owners like that. also hate it when i take my walk and they let their little fucks run around wild while barking at me when i just want peace
>do you have pets btw?
two cats, 3 year old maine coon. not really mine but from my parents but i live with them lol. theyre cute but sooo annoying because they just love to meow all the fucking time which goes through my headphones and keep demanding pets when im busy. what about you?

>>81895846
oh forgor in my rambling to ask you if you have a favorite dish to make as a chef

>>81895750
>assuming things
all good, i appreciate you wanting to help me, and i have the idea of asking personally so you already helped me out
>I know there are a lot of investments being poured in, a lot of (digital) infrastructure being built, and as the global power is shifting, it is becoming a center of economic growth and innovation
an old friend of mine always joked about going to thailand but i personally never put much research into it, i assumed its more of a third world country, but i like how you make these countries sound, didnt know that much money was being invested into it.
>Obviously, it's a big culture shock but there are westerners there and it's better than nothing.
i wouldnt mind for a nice comfy place to stay, ill def look into this, also looking at the job market and stuff. always considered it more as a joke before, so thanks again for the help :3

>>81896133
>why?
a lot of reasons, but, mainly because i dont really wanna live until im old in this world with this sick brain of mine
>your passion
heh, i wish.
do you have a passion for something?
>they cant accept that work is pointless
i get what you mean. i feel like everyone takes shit way too seriously and gets angry for no reason most of the time. i wish everyone was just a bit more chill.
>piano
oh thats so cool! i wish i could play piano. what kind of beats? for hip-hop songs n such?
>music theory
i oughta start studying that someday... i think i have a pretty good ear though.
>dont really expect anything
thats good, actually. don't ask for the impossible, expect the less of all. the plot is interesting, and its unique. how did you come up with it?
>free housing and stuff from the goverment
based
>so i imagine itd be like that
imagine you walk in a park, but, it never ends! thats how taking a walk in the mountains feels. plus you got a lot more animals and a wayyy better view.
>so envious of people living there
me and you both... what i wouldnt give to live there. i've taken a picture when i first visited, and i think its probably THE best picture i have ever taken.
>escape this city hell
we're gonna live in a small mountain village with barely any connection to the rest of the world and its gonna be soooo awesome. i cant wait to tend to chickens and cows all day honestly.
>find other ways
so far the only thing that gives me a break is alcohol, which, is not really a good thing.
>some subscription for living
its exactly how it feels to me. is it really living if i cant even do it without some pills?
>run around wild while barking at me
more often than not i get the intrusive thought of kicking them... i'd never do that though.
>they just love to meow all the fucking time
heheh i know what you mean. i have a cat too and she meows a lot, but i love her anyway. she's a calico and she's stupid just like her owner (me)
>fav dish
i like making first courses!

>>81893113
About sweden, public transport is useable but the trains north of stockholm tend to be 2 hours late to their destination. Plenty of immigrants unless you are in a summerhouse neighbourhood, 08 level unemployment but very concentrated in immigrant populations, the government are allergic to economic stimulus so it has been this way since corona. There are jobs in the far north but there are obvious downsides to living there

Most big cities around the world are having problems with landlords rising rent costs too steeply so theyre trying to pass laws that deal with this. Honestly if I was a landlord I would HODL too, inflation is misreported (so you cant charge what you ought because that is tied to "official" inflation rates that dont take into account actual real cost of living) so selling your flat or house is a major mistake. Youre shit out of luck, nonny.

>>81896395
>because i dont really wanna live until im old in this world with this sick brain of mine
i dont know what to say except i hope for the better fren, but i dont know much or anything about you so i doubt it means anything to you. if that helps i felt suicidal for years but i kinda found a small hope in my art and realising how much there is to learn about life, i bet there is something out there that can do that for you, like your dream of living in the mountains.
>do you have a passion for something?
yours isnt cooking? mb then i thought it sounded like that
i think its writing because i swear writing that novel felt like pure crack, but i also love learning deep things about life like researching religion and philosophy and then reading stories and deciphering all the symbolism they use in that to convey a message. so its storytelling the art of using it to help others
>what kind of beats? for hip-hop songs n such?
yeah rap beats, my fav genre or rather used to be. what you listen to?
>i oughta start studying that someday.
its ez to get into, everythings for free on youtube, def give it a shot!
>the plot is interesting, and its unique. how did you come up with it?
thank you! i always get the feeling it sounds lame when i type it out.
I daydream alot, especially when coping with strong emotions so i remember i daydreamed a scene of one the girls breaking into someones house trying to steal it when i was really angry irl. from there on it just kinda took form of its own. i also learned alot about the fake and gayness of everything so i wanted to share that kind of feeling being lost when everything you seemed to know was wrong
>based
kek
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>>81896395
>>81896742
(2/2)
>but, it never ends!
sounds like a dream! worst part of my walks are always going back home. and i only get see as much as nature as a park inside a city allows. i could search for animals and look at the clouds all day, you have some favorite spot in the mountains?
>i've taken a picture when i first visited, and i think its probably THE best picture i have ever taken.
care to show? also what did you do there? enjoy the scenery? saw some animals?
>we're gonna live in a small mountain village with barely any connection to the rest of the world and its gonna be soooo awesome.
living away from this distopian nightmare in our own comfy world, ahh cant wait! you tend the animals and i do my artfag shit with scenery as inspiration
>so far the only thing that gives me a break is alcohol, which, is not really a good thing.
yeah kinda a temporarily solution. forgive me if i sound demeaning or ignorant, i just want to help, have you tried to go for therapy? again sorry im stepping too close or sound obnoxious
>more often than not i get the intrusive thought of kicking them... i'd never do that though.
haha i usually get the urge to punch the owner of these fucks for bringing them . i hate anything loud that disturbs my peace
>is it really living if i cant even do it without some pills?
not really i think... but idk just accepting being sick is also cruel dont you think?
>she's a calico and she's stupid just like her owner (me)
aww soo cute, they look like the things i had in monster hunter lol. what color is she? one of my boys is white and black and the other boy is grey.
and pets are usually a mirror of their owner :P
>i like making first courses!
im a cooklet, first courses are usually soups and salads right?

>>81896675
mb should have been born into more money :c

>>81892407 (OP)
I don't even want to move out. My mom cooks for me every day and she leaves me alone if I want to. Not paying rent and not having a mortgage means I save and invest a shit ton of money and I'm probably going to retire early with an inherited apartment or two.
None of this would be pssible if I got a bank loan to buy a place of my own. I'd end up giving back double what I took, thanks to scummy interest rates.

>>81896742
>i bet there is something
i dearly hope so. being the way i am i keep doubting that even if i do manage to go live there i might still not be happy. so i'd rather not think about it at all
>yours isnt cooking?
i dont know. i hate cooking for myself but i like cooking for others. i dont really cook in my freetime and i think i should, since passions are supposed to be something you always like doing (i think) im not really passionate about anything, but i wish i was.
>writing
hmm thats nice. i used to write comics when i was a kid. do you read a lot of books then?
>philosophy
im also really interested in it, and i think maybe too much for my own good sigh
>yeah rap beats
woah cool! i like rap too. NF is my fav rapper
>what you listen to
pretty much anything, excluding trap and whatever has autotune. music is so important for me. i think in terms of genre i listen to punk, metal and rock the most. basically anything that has a guitar in it is good!
>def give it a shot!
i am! its just. i have so much trouble with focusing on things.
>I daydream alot
ahhhh i do the same. i think for people like us is a good thing though. for you it gave you the idea for the awesome novel you wrote! for me, i dunno, maybe it will help me write a song eventually.
>i could search for animals and look at the clouds all day
ahhh i love the sky! its my favourite thing. it looks like a painting that is constantly changing!
>favorite spot
i think, anywhere that lets you see very wide and that lets you see far away. the places in my picrel is what i mean.
>care to show?
hope you like! i added a tao in it so now its even better.
>what did you do there?
not much, just basked in the beauty of the world. there were some cows and went to say mooo to them. wish i couldve stayed there forever.
>have you tried to go for therapy?
therapy won't work me for, besides getting it here isn't easy. and its okay anon, dont worry you're not being obnoxious at all! i like talking with you

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>>81897187
>>81896751
>you tend the animals and i do my artfag shit with scenery as inspiration
that sounds great. i wanna have a bazillion chickens when i move there.
>i hate anything loud that disturbs my peace
honestly same. i dont hate dogs i think they're cute but i genuinely can't stand them whenever they bark. and that goes for any animal that makes annoying noises. i love animals so much but man sometimes they drive me crazy
>idk just accepting being sick is also cruel dont you think?
yes. but such is life sadly. cruel.
>they look like the things i had in monster hunter lol
...you mean palicoes? also you play monster hunter??? i love that franchise so much! my cat has 3 colours, white black and light brown. all calico cats have 3 colours and they're all females! did you know that?
>black
ahhhh so cute i love black cats!!! little bundles of void
>and pets are usually a mirror of their owner :P
yeah thats why she's also very stubborn! she's just like me fr
>first courses are usually soups and salads right
first courses are pastas, risottos, soups, tortellini, ravioli and stuff like that. whats one of your favourite dishes?

>>81897187
hahaha nice tao edit.t thats the pic you took? holy fuck seems like out of a fantasy movie, no wonder you love that place, i wish i could lie there like the little tao
>so i'd rather not think about it at all
well youll never know if you dont try. you dont seem to like your current position, so its not like things get worse if you try, who knows maybe its what you really needed. but atleast for now it gives you something to look forwards too
>since passions are supposed to be something you always like doing (i think)
thought that myself but desu i think thats not the case. theres a saying for writerfags that goes "i dont like writing, i like having written". the process itself is boring, i just sit there and type away my daydreams. but the feeling of actually having done it is pure bliss. i assume that goes for other passions like cooking, you just said yourself that you like cooking. i actually need to force myself to write because again, the process itself is boring, so maybe the cooking for yourself part is just practice for the later stage of cooking for others?
>do you read a lot of books then?
i used to read lot of manga and lately started philosophy but i actually dont read many mangas, i kinda just started writing because i read that it helps with intrusive daydreaming, and eventually learned to love it because of all the wonders words can bring to me and others. i really love jrpgs and theyre text heavy if you can count that as reading
>i think maybe too much for my own good sigh
do you feel like sometimes it makes you think too much? happened to me, nowdays i just try not to take it too seriously and to see it as more of an inspiration for stuff to write

(1/3 sorry for the yapping lol)

>>81897187
>>81897515
(2/3)
>NF is my fav rapper
i remember loving his song search on loop for like a week, fav album i should give a listen?
for me its prob eminem, i really loved germanrap back in the day but i could never get used to the new wave of rappers and my older favorite ones retired or starting sucking thats kinda dead to me. gave kendrick a try and im not that hooked yet
>music is so important for me.
same always used it to cope with emotional stuff. damn you have a really big music taste, usually i talk with people about music they seem so elitist
>maybe it will help me write a song eventually
sounds cool any idea already about what you want to rap/sing?
>i think for people like us is a good thing though
now yeah, but no im pretty sure i used it to cope hard because i never really learned to deal with heavy emotions, even nowdays i notice how vivid i daydream when things get tense. just trying to make the most out of it
>it looks like a painting that is constantly changing!
what a great way to look at it! i always feel some relief looking at the sky, as if i could just rest in these cloudy pillows
> i added a tao in it so now its even better
:3
>went to say mooo to them
haha based, hope they greeted back. that placae sounds so lovely. just great to just wind down and do nothing in this faggot society where youre expected to be busy nonstop

>>81897187
>>81897526
(3/3)
>therapy won't work me for, besides getting it here isn't easy
what makes you so sure it doesnt work? forgetting the hard to get part for now
>dont worry you're not being obnoxious at all! i like talking with you
thanks fren, love talking to you too! just felt like im overstepping telling you to take therapy
>I wanna have a bazillion chickens when i move there.
holy fuck egg prices wont matter anymore were gonna drown in them! at that point there gonna tend you not you them
>i love animals so much but man sometimes they drive me crazy
same, i just love peace so much i despite anything that takes it away from me
>also you play monster hunter???
not much anymore sadly because of work, i mostly played freedom unite and iceborn, a bit of rise but it didnt really click with me. i wanted to give wilds a chance but i dont have the pc for that
>all calico cats have 3 colours and they're all females! did you know that?
oh wow no didnt know that, cute fact
>she's just like me fr
fr fr no cap haha
>my cat has 3 colours, white black and light brown
cutie <3
>first courses are
ah i see, thought pastas are part of the main menu, but i never really go to fancy restaurants.
my fav dish is probably Cordon bleu with fried potatoes. im kinda basic when it comes to food

>>81897533
your fav dish?

>>81897515
>thats the pic you took?
yeah! not for nothing its my favourite of all of the pictures i've taken. (and i've taken a lot)
>so its not like things get worse if you try
i guess so, i got nothing to lose and everything to gain after all.
>"i dont like writing, i like having written"
hm, thats a good quote. its the same for me too when it comes to a lot of things including cooking
>need to force myself to write
ah i need to force myself to do so many things honestly. it feels bad having to do that, i wish i had the motivation normalfags have. it kind of makes me question why even bother doing something if i have to force myself to
>cooking for yourself part is just practice
yeah i guess its that way.
>i used to read lot of manga
which ones? i used to read a lot of books as a kid but now i dont read much, mostly cause of my adhd. i also like writing in my journal, it helps dealing with the bad thoughts.
>do you feel like sometimes it makes you think too much?
oh definitely. almost everything makes me think too much lole. i dont dislike thinking about philosophy but sometimes it touches some dark subjects and worsens my mood
>fav album i should give a listen
i think perception, but hope is also a fantastic one
>eminem
used to listen to him all day when i was in high school along with NF. kinda makes me nostalgic nowdays.
>damn you have a really big music taste
what can i say i enjoy good sounds. i listen to music all day everyday
>about what you want to rap/sing?
wasnt really talking about lyrics, but more so notes. i guess if i had to talk about a topic in a song then it would be my struggle with depression. very original, i know
>never really learned to deal with heavy emotions
ahhh me too. i often get overwhelmed by emotions and it feels pretty awful. what are your daydreams about usually?
>i always feel some relief looking at the sky
i like it the most when its night. one day i wanna see a clear night sky with all the stars and galaxies. its my dream

>>81898131
cont
>>81897533
>what makes you so sure it doesnt work?
i dont trust therapists, and the idea that i have to pay for someone to care about me is honestly depressing. i dont really want to talk with a stranger about personal things and besides, im pretty sure they'd send me to a psych ward if i told them i plan to kms.
>holy fuck egg prices wont matter anymore were gonna drown in them!
we're gonna make soooo much money from selling the eggs you have no idea.
>at that point there gonna tend you not you them
i welcome the chicken overlords with great enthusiasm
>i mostly played freedom unite and iceborn
those are very good ones! i played every single one after tri. mh4u is my favourite of them all! loved world and honestly i also didnt like rise. i only played it because gore magala was in it, and its my favourite monster.
>wilds
im refraining from playing it until they release the G rank stuff and fix all the optimization problems. looks fun though.
>thought pastas are part of the main menu
well yes, they are. in your average restaurant menu, there's appetizers, the main course (composed by first courses and second courses) and then the dessert. the amount of courses can go up to 12! though thats very rare.
>cordon bleu
oh i love that too, good choice. ate one a yesterday. i love cutlets aswell. my favourite dish is carbonara pasta though. simple but very tasty and filling!

>>81898131
hey before i answer, you want to add discord or stay in contact somehow? its fine if not obviously. this convo started unexpected but i really enjoyed, but its getting late and i need to get to bed

>>81898196
i dont really like discord so if you want we can talk through emails! redplumblossom@proton.me thats mine. i check it daily so there's good chances ill answer you

>>81898131
>(and i've taken a lot)
bet you did at a place like that, that pic felt magical
>got nothing to lose and everything to gain after all
thats a beautful mindset to have
>its the same for me too when it comes to a lot of things including cooking
so it may be your passion after all despite you not enjoying the act itself
>it kind of makes me question why even bother doing something if i have to force myself to
i can speak from my novel that the bother is worth. if i only ended up writing when i felt like id still be at the first chapter. but going through that pain of forcing myself to do it created something (for me at least) beautifull thing, so trust me its worth it even when it feels like a struggle. better do something cool than rot on 4chan dont you think?
>which ones?
too many to list or remember lol, but i really liked yuri stuff for some reason like bloom into you or more light hearted stuff like i killed slime for 300 years but i kinda just ended up reading whatever i found, i used to just go to the store and read there for hours, my fav is def rezero, also ended up my favorite anime. what did you like to read as a child? a journal sounds great, you have some structure or write whatever thought pops up? i tried that multiple times but i really suck at forming habits like that lol, im kinda impulsive at doing things
>almost everything makes me think too much lole
same haha, any story or simple conversations end up eating away my thoughts over and over agian, so bothersome...

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>>81898563
>>81898131
(2/3)
>but sometimes it touches some dark subjects and worsens my mood
i feel the same, i ended up turning my negative thoughts into stuff for my daydreams, perhaps thats something that could help you tame such thoughts. like if i think about hurting someone i start to imagine these thoughts as some villain of sorts for example, or the classic daydream of acting like i created the song im currently listening to haha. but i think somtimes its necesarry to touch dark subjects, or else they eat you entirely if you ignore them too long
>i think perception, but hope is also a fantastic one
ill give them a listen!
>kinda makes me nostalgic nowdays.
i thikn youd like ems latest album them, its heavily build around nostalgia around his slim shady days, its pretty much a battle between new em and shady
>i listen to music all day everyday
same cant without, but i try to listen less because it always triggers intense daydreams, feel like im wasting my time
>wasnt really talking about lyrics, but more so note
oh got it, i pretty much always listen to music with lyrics so i just assumed them, but notes are obv just as important. and yeah songs about depression may not be original but your thoughts are still unique to you, so making a song about whatever topic is always unique!
>what are your daydreams about usually?
they wary so much, but right now its mostly that im some popular rapper and the songs im listening to rn are part of some big album, but there are also daydreams about me being in some viyda world chilling with characters from genshin or persona. and sometimes these lead into me creating ocs like it was for my novel. and your daydreams?

>>81898131
>>81898578
(3/3)
>i like it the most when its night. one day i wanna see a clear night sky with all the stars and galaxies. its my dream
youll achieve that when at a place like in your pic im sure of it!
i personally cant stand the night, almost got shot at night once and ever since then ive been to scared to step outside when its dark
>im pretty sure they'd send me to a psych ward if i told them i plan to kms.
makes sense, talking to strangers sucks and paying them is not really different than getting an escort. guess were just kinda alone with our thoughts at the end of the day huh? but im sure youll find a way to deal with them, you just seem way to cool of a person to hurt yourself, the world would lose something. i wouldnt have this great convo for example that brightend my day
>selling the eggs you have no idea
and then were gonna buy even more chicken till we have a whole army! we'll send some to annoy your neighbor with our chickens like he does with his bird
>and its my favourite monster.
ah never played 4u but i know someone who thinks its the best, i should give it a try its easy to get with emulation after all. i remember stopping after united because they all came out on nintendo consoles and i only had the normal ds, always wanted to play tri. dont think i even played enough rise to get to gore magala, but i looked him up and he looks badass. mine used to be nargaguca, but i think nowdays its kushala, his fight was so bs and troll in world i ended up loving it haha
>looks fun though
yeah no point in playing base game. but im still worried because reading /v/ threads they kinda make the game sound worse than world, you play on pc i assume? what else you playing

>>81898591
(4/3 ups)
>the amount of courses can go up to 12! though thats very rare
holy fuck id give up at the third course haha. thought i guess when a based chef like you makes it the taste makes the bigger belly worth it
>ah cutlets are also based. haha i remember i was in italy once for vaction and ate carbonara and it took me like an hour with the amount they put into it, it felt so heavy on my stomach but was so delcious! you said 12 courses are, did you ever make them as a chef? and when do you even do so many, thats gonna take the whole day no?

>>81898259
happy youre not scared from my ramblings! thanks for making my day, was really awesome talking to you! youre seem so interesting and chill and i like your outlook on things. didnt expect that when i just wanted to bitch about aparments haha
thanks for the mail, mine is asmrayaya@gmail.com
not my main email obv, but my main has my irl name in it so i dont really want to share it here, though i still look at this mail reguraly! just as a warning im kinda scatterbrained when it comes to keeping up with others so please dont take it personal if i ever take some time to respond, its just me being stupid
gonna sleep now gn tao fren :3 ill check the mail or the archived thread tomorrow to see your answer!

>>81898680
you can update me about which country you want to move in and i can about my living situation if youd like

>>81898563
>better do something cool than rot on 4chan dont you think?
anything is better than rotting here i guess...
>i used to just go to the store and read there for hours
oh i see, wish i could do that here but there aint many shops and they dont really let you stay for hours unless you buy something...
>rezero
i liked the anime, its one of the first ones that i've seen
>what did you like to read as a child?
mostly fantasy books or narrative. i read all the hunger games books and i remember i loved them sooo much!
>write whatever thought pops up?
yeah i do that pretty much. it kinda feels like i drop a huge weight off my shoulders each time i write. a lot of my journal is just complaining and whining and its quite depressing as a result... but i also try to write what i did during the day.
>i really suck at forming habits
oh im terrible at it too. im terrible at remembering things in general, honestly. but i think you should keep trying! maybe leave a memo somwhere so you dont forget.
>if i think about hurting someone i start to imagine these thoughts as some villain of sorts for example
whenever i have bad thoughts i try to attribute them to my brain. my brain and i are two different entities, and so i whenever i feel bad or i think about bad things i blame it. it helps with coping in a way.
>its necesarry to touch dark subjects, or else they eat you entirely if you ignore them too long
yeah i agree. i dont mind talking about them, in fact i think i do it too much sometimes.
>ill give them a listen!
lmk if you like!
>ems latest album them
i've listened to it and yes i do! hard for him to make a song i dont like honestly.
>but your thoughts are still unique to you
yeah thats true. besides its not like i care much if others think its cringe desu
>that im some popular rapper
so is becoming a rapper your dream anon?
>and your daydreams?
me hanging out with someone i love or exploring the mountains or, way more often, dying.

cont.

>>81899340
cont.
>>81898591
>youll achieve that when at a place like in your pic im sure of it!
yeah, i wanna go back to that place sometime when its night so i can take the same picture but when its dark!
>almost got shot at night
oh wow thats scary. sorry you had to go through that anon, how did it happen?
>were just kinda alone with our thoughts
yup, and its forever going to be that way
>you just seem way to cool of a person to hurt yourself
...thank you, but dont put too many expectations on me. im glad talking w me made your day better though!
>and then were gonna buy even more chicken till we have a whole army!
the chicken revolution has begun!
>i should give it a try its easy to get with emulation after all.
yeah you definetly should!! its such a great game. sigh i wish i could play it again online.
>even played enough rise to get to gore magala
he's in the sunbreak dlc, so maybe thats why. though as much as i love him he's not worth the money or the time it takes to get to his fight. besides he's in wilds too so just fight him there if u ever get it
>mine used to be nargaguca
ah yes, nicaragua
>kushala
i despise that mf so much you have no idea. his lore is cool though.
>did you ever make them as a chef?
nah, thats wayyy too much stuff and besides i'm no chef, im still studying to be one.
>thats gonna take the whole day no?
it takes a lot of preparation to make just the average 2 course meal, since most of the food and sauces you make are not made during service. depending on the menu, you could be working everyday all morning to make food for the afternoon and evening service of the day after.
>happy youre not scared from my ramblings!
i love rambles! im glad you liked talking with me i liked it too.
>im kinda scatterbrained when it comes to keeping up with others so please dont take it personal if i ever take some time to respond, its just me being stupid
oh its okay, i get it, im kinda like that too so keep that in mind aswell. have a good night anon!

>>81892407 (OP)
>>81892430
>>81892450
>>81892473
>>81892494
>>81892570
You don't look like this and avatar posting is against the rules.