so what would first contact actually look like?

>>16730762 (OP)

>>16730762 (OP)
Well imagine if we made first contact.
It would probably be a lot like the colonization of the Americas. No shit we wouldn't just start openly genocide whatever sentient species lives there but extracting whatever utility we can out of them is going to take priority over amicable relations.

>>16730792
there is 0 use in exploiting less technologically advanced species as a space faring civilization
think about it, if you can travel space then you can just go mine an asteroid for resources or whatever; its not at all like on earth where theres finite resources
exploiting a less technologically advanced civilization in another star system would be like walking across a continent to go and extort one specific homeless guy for his pocket lint

>>16730791
why would it just blow up

>>16730797
Yeah, mineral extraction would be irrelevant. But land would be a big one. Assuming this planet is hospitable to us, we'd set up colonies. I could easily see us selling land rights to Dole or some shit because subjugating natives is a hell of a lot easier than terraforming a planet.

>>16730762 (OP)
>so what would first contact actually look like?
https://starshiptroopers.fandom.com/wiki/Meteor_Attack_on_Buenos_Aires

>>16730762 (OP)
We would see a all of earth's water being sucked up into the atmosphere, disappearing into an invisible and incomprehensibly large space craft. Afterwards, it would disembark leaving us on a dry, doomed desert planet.

No war, no invasion, just a vastly superior species taking a valuable, natural resource not caring about the "primitive" life forms it destroys in the process.

>>16730822
Water's one of the most abundant molecules in the universe. Just fly over to a planetary nebula and you'll find more water than all of the Earth's oceans combined being produced every second.

>>16730762 (OP)

Two distinct options:

>Von Neumann probe eating some of our asteroids
>relativistic shrapnel

Wait, are we still talking about ayys here even ...

>>16730762 (OP)

Alien Viruses/AI infecting our Internet first.

>>16730762 (OP)

>>16730762 (OP)
Probably a lot of rape.

>>16730762 (OP)

The first contact would likely come from electromagnetic waves, likely from their own version of the internet. They will infect our own web with devious AIs an material to corrupt us to their own ends.

>>16730762 (OP)
When someone finally transcends the status of mere human, they will thus be the next stage in evolution.
>A non-Human alien of sorts.

>>16730811
Ummmm sweaty that was just a false flag by the fascist earth government.

Consider what happens when humans discover a new species.

>>16730762 (OP)
The planet suddenly being reconstituted into an entity that uses space-time for processing and expands at the speed of like

>>16731084
lol thank god space is big as fuck or we will be screwed, the whole universe only favors the strong and mighty, not the weak and pitiful

jenny is made for alien horse cock

>>16731084
>science is snake oil
>and also turtle oil and octopus oil

>>16730791
No need to waste energy blowing it up. It'd suffice to just incinerate the crust's upper layer

>>16730762 (OP)
The aliens would either be invading and it wouldn't have to make sense (lasers and bullet resistant body suits that weigh like 1kg vs guns and armor that doesn't stop lasers and weighs multiple kilos) or they have already infiltrated us and are undermining us.

>>16730797
so the same thing you did to blacks?

>>16730762 (OP)

If they had a Dyson Sphere, sending just a billion soldiers would be like a modern country sending a single squad to a warzone.

>>16730762 (OP)
>so what would first contact actually look like?
>In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun, above and below and on both sides, the color was blood, there stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferrous color. Likewise there stood on both sides and as a torus about the sun such blood-red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned' and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west. - Hanns Glaser, letter-painter of Nurnberg.

>>16730797
>there is 0 use in exploiting less technologically advanced species as a space faring civilization
cat girls.

>>16730762 (OP)

Depends on the nature of the Alien, remember , the xenomorph is technically a weird goo / spore fungusy thing , if its like a tardigrade thing and just rides a rock to earth and tears shit up - thats just nature.

Realistically if these things were truly intelligent and evil, they would let things just run their course and put our planet on the watch list. Why interfere at all when simply by observing you can see they have successfully triggered climate doom spirals , built their economies around a system that sets itself up for revolution and chaos, etc. they can STILL simply mind control our elites to create the most chaos possible by simply PROMISING higher technology/god-like power - thats how fucking nimrod ape-like dipshits we are. And all it takes is letting off our nukes and glassing our planet and making quick work of it.

They goin like "hah! they actually fell for it!"

Also , if they are that intelligent to get here , what do we even have they they want? They figured out light travel but they can't figure out asteroid mining or synthesizing elements?

If they actually came here it would be for benevolent reasons from their perspective at least. I haven't read 3 body problem but I saw the show a little - there was a scene between the cult leader and the san-ti where he explained lying was and the aliens cut off all communication.

That was actually very clever and I believe that, because an alien race that intelligent likely only made it that far by working cooperatively and leaving their lesser demons behind such as Lying/playing games/ NOT acting as a HIVE to further the aim of their people.

>>16731588

This actually kinda leads me down a darker theory that Angels / Demons that we've built up in our lore are actually in fact aliens that use US as a playground in the material world cause they are just so far beyond all this earth/universe shit.

We are like a vacation spot when "demons" a type of alien just wanna get their rocks off and use us as vessels in our psyche , and "angels" /our good psyche helping us purely out of pity. Spiritual sages being the end result of the good angels and helping a few souls ascend to their level.

Are we even real, are we even an identity/soul or carry meaning? Or are we merely electrical bodies for various psychic entities to duke it out?

>>16731547
This is one of the few historic accounts I find compelling. What the fuck could they possibly be describing?
The "explanations" I've seen are some babble about group hallucinations and political euphemism. Nothing convincing, felt more like off-the-cuff bullshitting.

>>16731599
>>16731547
swamp gas, sun dogs, an eclipse, time traveling weather balloons
go to neep neeps

>>16730762 (OP)
They embed a signal in light by varying the brightness of a star so that when you analyze it using digital computers the fft unpacks a computer virus.

Then the ayys pwn you, you get aylium pop-up ads, or they connect your civilization to the galactic internet and troll you on online image boards.

>>16732421
i never considered the aliens pranking us thats a good idea

I wonder how they'd feel about our limited range on colors

>>16732423
Call me schizo but I think this is really how it goes.
Only affects other civilizations that look at you closely enough and try to analyze the data with technology.
A "mind your own business or face the consequences" approach.
Once the program embeds in our tech it can hijack whatever it needs to build probes or whatever UAP are. Might even put itself into our outgoing signals to replicate itself to further civilizations.
No need for a swarm of von-neuman probes filling the skies, we don't see "space ships" traveling between stars because most of the time it's easier to just send an email.

>>16730762 (OP)
First contact would likely be through radio signals or something similar. It would take decades, maybe centuries, for actual physical contact, and even then, it both sides would be really careful. The reason: intelligent life outside of earth is likely a few light decades away from Earth, so sending anything to us and vice-versa would be extremely costly and time consuming. You don't want to fuck up that. Moreover, most lifeforms likely can't survive the voyage, so there's no reason to.

>>16731084
Streamers are going to harass them and make annoying tik-tok prank videos.

>>16730762 (OP)
Probably us stumbling into them or vise versa. I'd think we'd have to be on there level first.