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7/7/2025, 9:23:43 PM
>>17822277
>>17822290
>>17822465
>>17822352
>According to Bible Scholars that compile the Greek manuscripts to translate and create Bibles
You are referring to corrupt Bible versions, and there isn't even any point to this argument. Jesus said "sin no more" in John 5:14.
"Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee."
(John 5:14)
>>17822290
>>17822465
>>17822352
>According to Bible Scholars that compile the Greek manuscripts to translate and create Bibles
You are referring to corrupt Bible versions, and there isn't even any point to this argument. Jesus said "sin no more" in John 5:14.
"Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee."
(John 5:14)
7/5/2025, 9:22:20 AM
>>17815862
The difference between hell and the lake of fire biblically is that the lake of fire will last forever. Have you even read the whole book of Revelation, anon?
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."
- Revelation 14:9-11
The above makes it very clear. Eternal torment and sorrow. Jesus said there will be everlasting punishment in Matthew 25:46. Even if you choose to ignore these verses, that doesn't make them go away; it doesn't work that way.
He also said their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched in Mark 9. In Matthew 13, Jesus said that, at the end of the world, the wicked will be cast into a furnace of fire, and "there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
- Matthew 13:41-42
In Revelation 19 and 20, the beast and false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire at the start of the millenial reign (see Revelation 19:20). One thousand years later, when Satan is thrown into the lake of fire, the beast and false prophet are still burning in the same place (Revelation 20:10). They were burning in eternal torment and agony for a thousand years. In chapter 14 of Revelation (previously quoted) it very clearly says that torment never ends, and that there is no rest day or night for them.
The difference between hell and the lake of fire biblically is that the lake of fire will last forever. Have you even read the whole book of Revelation, anon?
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."
- Revelation 14:9-11
The above makes it very clear. Eternal torment and sorrow. Jesus said there will be everlasting punishment in Matthew 25:46. Even if you choose to ignore these verses, that doesn't make them go away; it doesn't work that way.
He also said their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched in Mark 9. In Matthew 13, Jesus said that, at the end of the world, the wicked will be cast into a furnace of fire, and "there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
- Matthew 13:41-42
In Revelation 19 and 20, the beast and false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire at the start of the millenial reign (see Revelation 19:20). One thousand years later, when Satan is thrown into the lake of fire, the beast and false prophet are still burning in the same place (Revelation 20:10). They were burning in eternal torment and agony for a thousand years. In chapter 14 of Revelation (previously quoted) it very clearly says that torment never ends, and that there is no rest day or night for them.
6/30/2025, 6:26:40 AM
>>17802220
Compare Isaiah 45:22-23 and Philippians 2:9-11. Both say that every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
Compare Isaiah 45:22-23 and Philippians 2:9-11. Both say that every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
6/20/2025, 12:13:07 AM
>>17777127
>The truth is the standard by which we judge the truth,
Actually, the truth is the standard by which we judge anything else. For believers, the truth itself is self-evident. See John 8:47, John 18:37b.
Jesus said, "Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice." He was right. Whoever is of the truth recognizes Him as God. If you don't, it means you are not of the truth.
>The truth is the standard by which we judge the truth,
Actually, the truth is the standard by which we judge anything else. For believers, the truth itself is self-evident. See John 8:47, John 18:37b.
Jesus said, "Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice." He was right. Whoever is of the truth recognizes Him as God. If you don't, it means you are not of the truth.
6/18/2025, 6:50:56 AM
>>17772823
Didn't we just have this thread last week?
2 Samuel 12:23 and Job 3:16-19 in the Bible already show that unborn souls do not go to hell. Also, original sin isn't a Biblical doctrine either, by the way.
Didn't we just have this thread last week?
2 Samuel 12:23 and Job 3:16-19 in the Bible already show that unborn souls do not go to hell. Also, original sin isn't a Biblical doctrine either, by the way.
6/14/2025, 10:11:16 PM
>>17763344
>Nowhere does it say that God will make a new covenant with Israel that does away with the law.
Read Hebrews 8.
>Nowhere does it say that God will make a new covenant with Israel that does away with the law.
Read Hebrews 8.
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