>>720134492
Standing by and abdicating responsibility when six children are going to their deaths is pretty bad, but not as bad as actually murdering six children
>isn't Asgore supposed to be a "big fuzzy pushover"
This is how everyone knows him in Undertale because by the time of Undertale he's a broken shell of his former self eaten alive by guilt and shame over his actions
He's still the King of the Monsters who fought a war against humanity and declared he would fight another to avenge his children and had the resolve to murder six others. He had a terrible anger inside him and Toriel left him in disgust when it consumed him.

>>530509601
>>530509779
Toriel also abandoned her responsibility to her people and allowed a bunch of children to march to their deaths scared and alone in an unfamiliar place. She's not blameless. Of course, she's also not as bad as the one who created the situation and is actually killing the children.

>>530129762
>The item placements muddy things up by having the Patience Human’s gear in the Ruins, implying she died there
This is an assumption that people make, not a fact

>>714349768
It's not random chance, anon
>Legends say that those who climb the mountain never return.