Thread 149525943

WAS – McLaurin and the team remain far apart on a new deal, with him seeking $30M per year entering his contract year.

PIT – Steelers have no plans to trade Watt and are working toward an extension before camp.

PIT – Steelers plan to use Jonnu Smith in multiple roles, potentially cutting into Freiermuth’s snaps.

MIA – Dolphins are in trade talks for a tight end, with names like Andrews and Mayer being discussed.

PIT – Steelers acquired Jonnu Smith, Jalen Ramsey, and a 2027 7th-rounder for Minkah Fitzpatrick and a 2027 5th.

PIT – Jonnu Smith signed a one-year, $12M extension through 2026 after being traded to Pittsburgh.

MIA – Dolphins reacquired Fitzpatrick, who’s expected to boost their secondary after trading Ramsey.

TEN – Sneed says he’s healthy and ready, though his knee will need ongoing maintenance.

LAC – Herbert’s passing game is expected to improve with rookies Harris and Gadsden joining McConkey.

SF – 49ers believe Mac Jones has starter potential and are helping him rebuild in Shanahan’s system.

>>149525943 (OP)
Unironically, Allen is a better leader than Lamar.

Is this the thread?

>>149525974
He's only 29.....Brady wasn't doing this at this age.

• 2nd most playoff wins of all time
• 2nd most Superbowl MVPs of all time
• Most TDs per game in NFL history

• Most Yards per game in NFL history
• Highest win rate of all time
• Has more division titles (7) than division loses (5).

• Only QB to throw for 5k yards in the NFL + college.
• Only 28 year old to have 2 MVPs and 3 Superbowl MVPs

Patriots

>>149525974
>Allen is a better leader than Lamar.
The only thing that matters is if team mates love their QB and that's true for both the Bills and Ravens. Bad leadership can only be measured when a team quits on a QB like the Jets did on Rodgers or the Browns did on Watson.

>>149526036
Depends what kind of thread you're looking for...

My steelers lost to the Chiefs :(

>>149526314
Based druk chads run this website

Attenzione, signore e signori!

>>149526589
If you ever see True Detective caps or webms (especially season 2) in druk thread that's generally me lmfao

>>149526310
The jets didn’t quit on Rodgers they quit on the jets. That place is a dumpster fire and got even worse after Saleh was fired

>>149526555
WTF is that real?

>>149526555
When the tattoo is colored is means polygamy, when it's black it means eternal love.

75 days until I have to apologize to Reddit City Queefs fans...

>>149526736
Eternal love for the blacks she's cucking him with maybe

>>149526722
>>149526736
its true, i'm afraid

>>149526314
Healthy to release like this once in a while

>>149526717
>The jets didn’t quit on Rodgers they quit on the jets
Why wouldn't the players turn on Rodgers.
>He was a media distraction the entire season doing attention whore stuff like saying he was going to run for president or host jeopardy
>He called the owner and the next day the coach got fired so he's widely regarded as the reason Saleh was fired
>He over promised and under delivered, the team was better off with Zack Wilson

If the team was bothered by the Jets management they would have ragequit years ago seeing how that franchise has perpetual bad management.

>>149525974
How the fuck are you gonna measure that? Allen has been better in the playoffs obviously but how can you compare leadership? Neither has had big shouting matches with players/coaches on the sidelines and both have won some big comeback victories. I can't think of anything either has said or done that makes them seem like poor leaders

>>149526752
Let me remind you Mahomes has the highest win rate of all time.

His regular season record against the NFC is 25-5.

He rarely loses in the first couple of weeks.

He will have a left tackle and all his weapons unlike the super bowl.

All data and statistics points to him dominating the Eagles in the rematch.

>>149526800
I used to love getting blitzed by myself. Either dropping multiple tabs and jamming out music Friday after work or ripping a bunch of lines of MDMA and smashing beers. Nowadays I keep it more tame

>Neither has had big shouting matches with players/coaches
Am I a joke to you?

MVP season loading...

>>149526911
Did they ever have a big blowup? I just remember Diggs getting phased out of the offence in 2023 because he kept talking shit on social media/having his brother talk shit for him

>>149526877
*wins anyway*

If Diggs is talking shit to Allen off the field then it is still a blow up. Players don't just turn against each other for no reason. Diggs probably felt Allen wasn't feeding him.

>OHMMMMMMMM
>OHMMMMMMMM

Mahomes seems like a creampie cleanup cuck

>>149527093
trip on bradysknee, tell us more about your fantasies

fantasize about this bussy

trip on this bussy

(You)

>>149526314
>>149526589
Hell yeah brother

>>149526807
Where’s your proof they quit on him at all?

>He called the owner and the next day the coach got fired so he's widely regarded as the reason Saleh was fired
No he wasn’t
>He over promised and under delivered, the team was better off with Zack Wilson
He didn’t promise, at least publicly, anything. Outside parties put those expectations on him. If you think Zack Wilson was a better QB you’re fucking braindead. I don’t need to elaborate more.

>>149525943 (OP)
Lamar isn't retarded by choice so he wins

>>149526036
I'm off the /druk/

>>149526663
You mother fucker, I can't remember when I stopped going to them regularly but it was hilarious watching the jannies try and take them down
Let the /druk/ bros be druk! It's one fucking thread you homos and they talk about Cage movies

>Football in a month
>It's the HOF game

>>149527805
Ummmm this isn't on Mahomes actually because the Chiefs had injuries so this play doesn't count. You need to understand the context before you critique the mahomie

>>149522214
He's going to the Chiefs

>>149526114
• fewer playoff wins than Tom Brady
• fewer Superbowl MVPs than Tom Brady
• fewer TDs per Super Bowl than Tom Brady

• More INTs per Super Bowl than Tom Brady
• Lowest win rate of all time against Tom Brady in the playoffs
• Has fewer AFCCG appearances in a row than Tom Brady

• Only QB to lose to Tom Brady in both the AFCCG and the Super Bowl
• More playoff losses by age 29 than Tom Brady

Although you're right that he's doing things Brady never did. Like being blown out in the super bowl. Twice.

>>149527088
2001 Brady type run loading

Tom Brady has never been in garbage time in a Super Bowl unless he was blowing out his opponent.

>>149526314
GIWTWM

>>149528115
Tom Brady has however been bootyblasted out of the Wild Card, Divisional, and Conference Championship rounds before. Mahomes has yet to exit any earlier than OT in the Conference Championship round.

>>149528157
He also won 10 games in a row to start his career, and had fewer playoff losses than Mahomes does at the same point in their careers. Yes even if you count Brady missing the playoffs as a playoff loss.

Tom got retired by Dookie Poopie then got cucked by the Karate Kid
sad!

Mahomes will get retired by some bum too, don't worry.

>>149528157
Very convoluted way of saying "Mahomes exited whenever he played Brady."

You can't play the superior playoff resume card against a guy who is undefeated against you in the playoffs and stole multiple rings from you.

Pat's wife didn't run away with a Brazilian manlet lol

Pats wife gets run over by Brazilians and other types of men daily

yet

>>149526842
>triggered Kiwicel

>>149528345
>multiple rings
Imagine actually counting the 2020 mickey mouse owl

Every ring is mickey mouse except the ones my team won

>>149528452
Trvke

HOL UP
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>>149528452
This but my team is the Chargers

Week 8 @ Denver

This is it boys. 4th of July weekend is the peak of summer and the last dead moment of the off-season. After this, it's training camp.

>>149527088
>ZOOOMMM
>ZOOOMMM

>>149528345
>You can't play the superior playoff resume card against a guy who is undefeated against you in the playoffs and stole multiple rings from you.
He won a coin flip in overtime and beat a team with 4 starters out on the OL. Calm down. By your logic I guess Eli is better than Brady.

>>149529268
>By your logic I guess Eli is better than Brady.
not him but yes.

>>149528345
>>149529357
Mahomes and Brady's era overlapped. In that timespan no QB had more wins, MVPs, rings, or individual stats than Mahomes.
He has no rival and it's not particularly close.

>>149529463
Winners win, Pattycakes.

Imagine losing your wife and kids just to go 8-9 and get decimated by Dak Prescott and the Cowboys in the first round.

Just saw a clip of Quarterback where Goff is describing what it felt like to be shipped away from the Rams. Even though the Lions got one and doned, did the last two seasons already make Jared Goff the beloved QB in franchise history?

>>149529647
Not a Lionsfag, but given how he helped them get a 15-2 season and 1 seed (for the first time ever, IIRC), he’s definitely an all time Lion

>>149529500
>>149529528
That last ring Brady got on tampa isn't worth shit. He pulled a Lebron James and joined a super team which was so stacked that a >black QB led the league in yards. Even Baker is leading in stats on that roster and it's not half as good as it was when Brady was on it.

The real goats earn rings the hard way by staying on the team that drafted them. Imagine if Mahomes decided to join the stacked Eagles roster to win rings, we would all call him out on that.

How long before Reek has to sell his ring after he retires? Doesn't he have like 20 kids or some shit and one of them burned down his mansion or some shit? lol

>7-9 team
>stacked
YDKB. Brady joining made the team stacked when he had Gronk, Lenny and AB follow him.

Bo Nix make ya seethe?

>>149529528
>Rayne Dakota

7>3

>>149525943 (OP)
Sorry cumhandler fans, Josh Harris just bought a WNBA team in Philly and is actually back to spending money on them now :/

I could buck break bix nood

>>149530226
Jameis Winston led the league in yards (5k)
Tom Brady led the league in yards/TDs
Baker led the league in TDs (last 2 seasons combined)

Funny how every QB who plays in that system puts up MVP caliber stats.

funny how a team that averaged 5 wins a season suddenly became stacked when Tom Brady showed up

>>149530633
>rating Winston cause he's a volume babby without the efficiency of modern QBs

>>149530748
Mahomesfag only cares when numbers suit his narrative.

>>149530699
>>149530226
Look at Brady's stats before and after he joined the stacked Bucs team.

Brady was so shitty Belichick said I can't win with this guy and was trying to kick him off the Patriots.

Bucs were so stacked a black backup QB led the league in yards.

If Mahomes ever does ring chasing bullshit like this in the future I will lose all respect for him.

>>149530801
damn that's crazy what did jameis do the 4 years prior on the stacked roster?

>>149530774
>implying I give a shit about Mahomo

>>149530905
>>149530699
Quit pretending like the GM didn't make a shit ton of moves when Brady got there. He even mortgaged the team's long term future just to win while Brady was there putting the team in so much salary cap and draft capital debt it only recently got past it. Bucs for all intents and purposes was a super team.

>>149531052
>Quit pretending like the GM didn't make a shit ton of moves when Brady got there.
So you've moved on from "Bucs were a stacked team before Brady got there" to "Brady helped stack the team". Thanks for agreeing with me

Dobbs didn't get a real chance

i can't imagine caring about some old retired bitch like tim brody lol

>>149528559
Every Ravens ring is a Mickey Mouse ring because they belong to Cleveland

Football just isn't the same without Tom.

It's better

>>149531170
>"Bucs were a stacked team before Brady got there" to "Brady helped stack the team".
They were a super team in the sense that they were only a few pieces away. A modern example of this would be if you air dropped Mahomes onto the Vikings or Lions and then used all of your draft capital to add more pieces and you bribed players with contracts that would make you win now but would fuck you over long term. We saw this with Matthew Stafford.

Nobody cares about Tom Brady, only Bradysnee and the bussy poster are real Patriots fans.

Mahomes has dominated his era so badly they have to bring up Brady and Montana since nobody in this era comes close to him.

They won't dare mention their poverty franchise quarterback in the same sentence with Mahomes.

>>149531374
Bucs didn't do any of that. They signed free agents for cheap because Brady recruited them. They traded a 4th rounder for Gronk because Brady convinced him to come back. Brady stacked the team.

This is the year for my Jetties.

Yeah, I'm thinking 5-12 this year

>>149528441
All teams participated. Compared to rings won in other years it doesn’t stack up, especially other wild card runs. It’s still a legitimate chip.

>>149531687
you have no QB or HC. Are you smoking meth or crack?

>>149530267
Mahomes doesn't look rat-like enough and Nix is missing his 60 year old man wrinkles

>>149530333
7 > 3

Brady never won more than 3 AFC championships in his 20s and kept losing early in the playoffs. Meanwhile Mahomes went to 7 straight in his 20s which is an NFL record.

>>149531175
He was on a great team and couldn't get it done. He's really just a great backup QB.

Over under 3.5 Dodgers make the all star game

my reffies :)

>>149532005
They have an elite defense. Bo Nix doesn't have to do much. He will be improved in his 2nd season. Imagine how good that team would be if they didn't have 80M in dead cap from the Wilson contract.

3 > 4
Brady only lost a playoff game or missed the playoffs 3 times in his 20s. Mahomes lost four playoff games in his 20s

Tom Brady beat four MVPs in his first three playoff runs.

>>149532005
Coward

Coach Primate

>>149532157
Brady missing the playoffs is worse than him losing in the playoffs.

>>149532588
Mahomes winning one super bowl in his first four years is worse than Brady winning three.

>>149532618
Congrats, that is one thing Brady did that was better than him. But it all became moot since Mahomes caught up to him. Also, Mahomes won Superbowl MVPs 3 times, Brady only did it twice.

Mahomes also didn't get cucked by his wife's bjj instructor

>>149532649
When did Mahomes catch up to Brady? im pretty sure 7 > 3

>AFC Championship appearances
Mahomes 7
Brady 4

>Super Bowl appearances
Mahomes 5
Brady 3

>Super Bowl MVPs
Mahomes 3
Brady 2

>League MVPs
Mahomes 2
Brady 0

>Seasons with 4k yards
Mahomes 6
Brady 1

>Pass TDs
Mahomes 219
Brady 147

>Pass yards
Mahomes 28,424
Brady 21,564

>5k yards or 50 TDs?
Mahomes 3
Brady 0

>>149526663
sometimes it's me

>>149532693
Pretty obvious we're talking about what both did in their 20s.

>>149529463
In that timespan he went 0-2 against Brady in the playoffs

>>149530801
Bucs before Brady were so stacked they couldn't finish above .500.

>>149532884
The most disturbing thing about Brady is that he stole valor from the new generation.
Had he retired like a normal person Mahomes would likely have 2 more rings. Mahomes would have 5 rings and Brady would only have 6.
He stole candy from the cradle. Hopefully when Mahomes is older he won't ring chase and join stacked teams to steal valor from the new generation.

In that time span I went 20-0 against your mom

>>149532913
They had a >black backup QB.

this nigga really thinks a QB with zero (0) offensive weapons in a rushing, defense oriented league with a defense-genius head coach having lesser stats than a QB with multiple Hall of Fame weapons in a passing, offense oriented league with an offense-genius head coach is a gotcha.

>prime patty mahomes couldn't beat a decrepit old man brady
>twice
SAD!

>>149532926
You have to earn the torch, not just be given it.
Brady ended the greatest show on turf to begin his career. The next goat will beat Mahomes in the superbowl or afccg in their first 1-3 years in the league.

Hey Tom, how many more rings does Mahomes need to even be in the conversation?

>>149532950
You realize Mahomes does not just stat mog Brady right? He stat mogs EVERY QB to ever play the game. See picrel. The only reason I compare him to Brady is because people keep bringing Brady up.
>>149532981
All time great players put up better stats in their late 30s than they do in their early seasons.

>>149532813
7>3?

>>149533047
Brady was 41 when he whooped Mahomes' ass the first time. Not late 30s. Name a quarterback other than Brady that played great football at age 41. AND THEN HE DID IT AGAIN AT 43 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>149532984
The analogy would be an adult refusing to graduate from school since he wants to fuck more girls so he keeps repeating classes and stealing girls from the new generation of males. He also got the best grades and won all the contest since he knew the class so well making all the other students come in 2nd place.

Brady took out his midlife crisis on the entire league. We'd all be talking about Mahomes as the new GOAT right now, but Brady stole valor from him. The NFL ratings would be insane too since everyone would be tuning in to see the new GOAT who won 5 rings in his 20s.

>>149533139
No other QB wanted to play that long since they weren't trying to prove themself to daddy Belichick who manipulated players by never showing them affection which only made them try harder to earn his affection.

Barring a career ending injury all time great players put up better stats with time. Mahomes will do the same.

>>149533139
>>149533243
>whoop
You mean this game where Mahomes outclassed him? Brady threw a 3rd game ending INT which was overturned by the refs. He then won a coin flip.

>>149533324
You automatically lose any credibility in your argument, of which there is some, if you bitch about the offsides penalty.

>>149533324
>3rd game ending INT which was overturned by the refs
so now we know where Mahomes gets it from

I'd go for a Whopper right about now

>>149533232
Every QB there that is retired ended up leaving the game because they physically could not play anymore. Rodgers announced his age 42 season will be his last, where in all likelihood he'll have a mediocre if not bad season. Sit down.

>>149533376
>>149533387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJv9YzozoQ

I'm not complaining or making excuses, the Patriots won fair and square. When you're a dynasty you get superstar flags. But when my Chiefs get flags like that I don't want to hear any complaints.

>>149533232
> No other QB wanted to play that long
Oh that’s bullshit and you know it. Favre would have played until he’s 70 if his body let him.

>>149533441
nigger all you do is complain and make excuses who are you trying to fool?

>>149533532
>Sean Payton says he talked to former quarterback Drew Brees during the season about coming out of retirement to come back to play for the New Orleans Saints in the 2021 NFL season.
Payton begged Brees to return on numerous occasions including multiple times when he was on vacation. Brees could have gotten surgery on his arm and returned but he had nothing left to prove. He also didn't want to steal valor from the new generation.

>>149532913
They went 9-7 with a QB that threw 30 interceptions. They were literally a piece or two away.

>>149533646
Finally a ball knower.

>>149533644
Sean Payton STINKS!
out hacked Hack lol

>>149525943 (OP)
Chat am I cooked as a Freiermuth owner in fantasy football?

>>149533638
>>149533625
If it's a close fight in boxing the judges give the decision to the defending champ. Likewise if you're a dynasty in sports the refs will pay extra attention late in games. That offside goes uncalled if it's a shitty team like the Raiders playing the Broncos.

>>149533646
They went 7-9 and of those wins, the only team above .500 was the 9-7 rams who missed the playoffs.
>>149533680
>mahomesfag calling someone that doesn't know shit a ball knower
it writes itself

>>149533324
>Mahomes outclassed him

Pure cope from zoomers who didn't actually watch the game. The Patriots had
>twice as many first downs
>more than double the time of possession
>99 more total passing yards because Mahomes took 4 sacks playing heroball and Brady took 0
>20 passing first downs to 11 for the Chiefs
>a 68% 3rd down conversion rate to 44% for the Chiefs
>14 more completions, 94 more plays run and 234 more yards of total offense

The Chiefs defenders were making mental mistakes at the end and couldn't make a stand in OT because Brady methodically wore them down until they were ready to just roll over. Double the time of possession is insane. Patriots honestly should have won by 20

>>149533644
Remember when Oprah thought the growth on his face was chocolate or something and tried to wipe it off with a napkin? Dumb baboon.

>>149533866
You're right they outplayed the Chiefs so badly that they were down by 4 points with 1 minute to go and Brady threw a 3rd game ending interception but the refs did their job to protect the dynasty.

>>149533832
They did indeed go 7-9. Why am I remembering it as a 9-7 season?

>>149533644
It was for the best. His arm was toast and surgery wasn't going to suddenly put another 20 yards of juice in it. He would have still been respectable because he was accurate and smart but the upside was minimal. No need for an act of desperation when you already have a ring

>Maholmes doesn't get ref help
>But Brady does
jfc
Pasts got sanctioned by the league a bajillion times while chefs WRs get to play Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit on the highway in the offseason with no tangible penalty

>>149533866
The Patriots outplayed the Chiefs. But Brady did not outplay Mahomes. All you need to do is look at the passer rating
Mahomes 117.0
Brady 77.1

On what planet is 40 point difference in passer rating outplaying someone?

>>149533828
so you admit the Chiefs get ref help?

And people call me schizo y'all been going back and forth all day

>>149533646
>9-7
>a piece or two away

I guess of one of those pieces is the GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME, then sure. But in general sub-.500 teams are not "a piece or two away."

Drew Brees can't even throw a football with his dominant arm anymore but this retard thinks he could have returned to play in the NFL if he wanted to.

>>149534033
>>149534023
I'm not saying Brady or Mahomes got ref help. I'm saying if you're a dynasty the refs are more alert late in games.

>>149534059
>"nah bro we don't need to rebuild, we're just a QB away!"
>The team in question

>>149533939
The Patriots got 1 first down by penalty. The Chiefs got 4. Also the Patriots had more penalties and penalty yards. Cope, seethe, dilate

>>149534029
On what planet is having fewer completions, fewer yards, fewer 3rd down conversions and losing "outclassing" someone?

inb4 context for penalties matters all of a sudden instead of sheer volume.

>>149534172
>>149534023
>>149534033
If you're a dynasty the refs are more alert late in games.

The teams that are dynasties are aware of this phenomena and thus don't make as many mistakes late in games.

That was the advantage Brady had over Mahomes and is the advantage Mahomes now has over the league.

>>149534096
okay? so then what exactly are you kvetching about?

anyway 4 > 3

>>149534260
>advantage
So you admit the Chiefs get ref help.

Le refuses to shake your hand man

>>149534276
Now post Montana and Brady's stats when they were getting blown out in the 1st round of the playoffs in their 20s. At least Mahomes only lost in championship rounds against the best teams..

>losing in the Superbowl
>ever

>>149534308
>At least Mahomes only lost in championship rounds against the best teams
It's funny how they always ignore this fact.

>>149534291
It's not ref help. If you're a dynasty you just know not to fuck around late in games.

>>149534260
7 penalties for 75 yards last super bowl I dunno looks like that dynasty was very prone to making mistakes

>>149534363
>>149534367

Wildcard loss and Conference Championship/Super Bowl loss are the same result.

>>149534363
>refs act differently in a way that is advantageous to the chiefs because the chiefs are playing
So you admit the Chiefs get ref help.

>>149534399
true
all that matters is how many you lost by age 30

>>149534399
The further you make it in the playoffs the less bad a loss is. Since it means you lost to stronger teams.

>Aw shucks, we lost to the eventual winners! Oh well, that's not too bad!
literal cuck mentality.

>Missing the playoffs
Worst result for your resume since now you can't accumulate post season stats or wins.

>Wildcard loss/1st Round loss
Any shit team can make it to this round. Losing to any of these teams is bad for your resume.

>Losing in AFC championship
You lost to the best team in your conference. Not too bad.

>Losing in the Super Bowl
You lost to the best team in the league and came in 2nd place among all other teams. Plus you accumulated playoff wins and stats on your resume.

my team lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to the champions so really we almost won it all if you think about it

>>149534678
>>149534503
Losing in the playoffs still makes you a loser. I'm just arguing it's objectively better for your resume to make it deeper in the playoffs. Mahomes isn't in his 30s yet already has the 2nd most playoff wins and pass TDs of all time. Those two things alone would invite you to MT Rushmore.

>>149534678
true, my browns spiritually won the superbowl if you really think about it

*Ahem*
>chorgers

Getting further along in the playoffs but not winning the owl only hurts your team's draft position.
If you didn't win the owl you may as well have come in last.
Faggots who only care about individual stats need not reply.

>>149534808
this
2nd place is the 1st loser

>seth walder thinks the fins won the trade

that's how i know they lost in reality

>>149534734
>browns

Can't imagine how painful it'd be to have this retard as my teams GM

Sup /NFL/ I'm back since the Superbowl what did I miss

>>149527805
i don't think he actually had the flu tbqhwu, i think it was just a bad throw

>>149534939
not much
the draft was fun
rodgers is on the steelers
the brady vs mahomes debate will still never end

>>149534975
>the brady vs mahomes debate will still never end
what debate? 7 > 3, you can't debate that

>>149534975
I'll conceed when mahomie jumps teams and wins another owl

>>149534854
He's just a puppet anyways

>>149534994
>>149535003
case and point

>>149534939
The Seattle Seahawks won the draft by taking Jalen Milroe at pick 92. Every true ball knower has accepted this

>>149535033
>dumbazz bama QB without a stacked roster to carry him

rip

>>149534298
Good. NFL needs to go back to having the players not all being best friends hugging each other all the time.

>>149534854
That trade with the Jaguars was pretty good though. They got a 2026 1st just to move down a couple spots (and get Mason Graham). Could have two top 10 picks in 2026 now.

>>149534678
My team spiritually beat the chiefs and eagles so if you think about it my team is spiritually the superb owl champs

Cardinals need to replace Kyler Murray, he's not the guy to get them to the mountaintop.

Does the trade today move the Steelers/Dolphins? I don't think so.

>>149534808
There's pros and cons to it. Your team mates get more big game experience. Free agents are more likely to join you since you made it far in the playoffs. Lastly, you get a lot more endorsements and social media followers from being in those big games.

>>149535462
Chiefs were a coin flip away from starting in 6 of the last 7 superbowls. Brady and Mahomes are the only QBs in the last 3 decades who managed to consistently make it back to Superbowls. Jalen Hurts ain't about that life. Chiefs have a better chance of making it back than them.

>>149535462
Raiders, Dolphins, Vikings > Panthers

He's that nigga

Who is the "potential man" of the NFL? Jackson? Prescott?

>>149535462
Niners are better than the Rams. Quote this when they go 13-3 and sweep the Rams (as per usual)

>>149526787
Who is the bigger cuck in this situation?

>>149535462
I thank Derek Carr for his sacrifice

>>149526310
>like the Jets did on Rodgers
Nobody with any sense expected a winning season after the front office fired the HC before the halfway point. The ownership torpedoed that team

>>149535643
Unironically Trevor Lawrence. He has seemingly all of the physical tools and he's flashed he has the mental tools as well with that playoff comeback, but he hasn't stepped into elite territory yet. Right now, he's like the Andrew Wiggins of the NFL.

>>149535643
Jackson is actually good Dak blatantly statpads

>>149530226
2020 and 2021 Bucs were both 3rd best offenses by points.
2020 Bucs were the 29th best defense. 2021 Bucs were 8th.
Brady didn't change their offense. He merely needed to throw half as many interceptions than Winston so their defense got to rest.

>>149535895
>From 30 interceptions down to 12 interceptions
>Didn't change the offense

>>149535628
many are saying this

>>149535930
>interceptions are the only way a drive ends without points
Lol.
Again, they were ranked identically relative to their contemporaries offensively. Brady increased their point total by 7% in a year when the league point total increased by 8%. Their offense did not improve substantially, their defense went from bottom of league to top 10.

>>149535895
*2019 and 2020

>>149535895
This

>>149536022
They went from 28.6 PPG to 30.8 PPG and put their defense in far less bad situations. That's an improved offense.

I want Joe Burrow's fat cock in my throat.

>>149536080
Burrow has a pencil dick. Allen has a fat cock

>>149536120
Bakey gives BWC energy as well. I would happily slurp up his load.

>>149536080
Jamarr, don't you have to get ready for training camp?

>>149536072
Some might even say it's... 7% better.

>they put their defense in less bad situations
That's literally the point I'm making. The offense wasn't significantly better at being offensive, but the reduction in turnovers helped the defense play to their potential. Tom Brady didn't make their offense pop off, he just allowed the team to function as it was supposed to by not throwing 30 interceptions.
The Bucs were a stacked team when Brady arrived. They were just losing because they didn't have a QB that could tell jerseys apart. Brady didn't make Mike Evans and Chris Godwin better. Shaquil Barrett had 20 sacks the year before Brady showed up. The roster was already good

>>149536171
Baker has above average sized balls. The kind that would be nice to put in your mouth

>>149536179
Oh okay, it sounded like you were downplaying the difference saying he didn't change the offense. Better efficiency, higher scoring and much less turnovers is for sure a change. Not trying to be anal about it, just thought you were downplaying it.

Temujin haunts my night thoughts. Wish I could find a girl like her.

How does a 5'10 athlete drown in a 6'0 deep hole?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Delaney

>>149536171
So youthful and happy go lucky. He's like this guy who's in his thirties but looks like a teenager. Really cool.

if ur qb is on th is list hes a fraud

>>149536392
Swifties made kelce an all pro in the last season. The award has no value now

>>149536239
I am downplaying it in the sense that it wasn't a significant change to the offense specifically. The offense was good before he got there. The roster was good before he got there. There's a dozen QBs you could slot into that team and would've had a great chance to win a SB.
His presence improved the offense, but he wasn't doing anything unique to make it better. The main difference between the 2019 Bucs and 2020 Bucs wassn't Tom Brady—it was the defense. Tom Brady played into that by not throwing a billion interceptions, but many QBs could've done that.

I'm mainly just making the point that the team was stacked. People overstate what role Brady played into that team's success. He was certainly important, but it's not like he turned hay into gold.

>>149536392
Remember when Lamar got MVP over Purdy despite being significantly worse because he supposedly had less help?
Him losing to Allen is just karma

>>149536588
>Remember when Lamar got MVP over Purdy despite being significantly worse because he supposedly had less help?
Lamar carried his team to the 1 seed that season unlike Allen who failed to do so in this season.

The MVP race was close between Purdy, CMC, and Lamar and everyone agreed whoever won the head to head game would win MVP. Purdy had a 4 interception meltdown and the 49ers ended up benching him and his backup QB outperformed him. So a team with two MVP candidates got their shit pushed in by Lamar. It would be criminal to award Purdy with an MVP after that.

But going back to Allen, he had a chance to beat Lamar in the head to head, but he got blown out 35 to 10. Allen had one of the worst performances in NFL history. I think he broke a record for least completions for x amount of attempts or something.

Meanwhile Lamar passed Michael Vick's record for most rush yards of all time and could have potentially broken Rodgers record for a single season with the highest passer rating but he ended up sitting out the later half of a game. And I think it goes without saying that a 41 TD and 4 INT season is historic. Most of those INTs were from his receivers fucking up perfect throws.

>>149536938
I already told you that voters had the postseason script

>>149536588
>>149537011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9mg_d4V1y8

>Total TDs-INTs
Purdy 33-11
Lamar 29-7

>Total yards
Lamar 4,499
Purdy 4,424

Purdy had better stats but it wasn't that much better. And despite Purdy having a superior roster Lamar dominated him in the head to head where Purdy had 4 INTs.

>I already told you that voters had the postseason script
Purdy didn't win beat the Lions that postseason; the Lions beat themselves.

Isn't that the playoff game where the Lions were up by 17 and all they had to do was kick field goals, but the meathead coach kept going for it on 4th down.

>Derek Carr Memorial Fact of the Day

There are many words that can be used to describe Derek Carr: passionate, rocket-armed, athletic (he ran a 4.69 40-yard dash at the combine, and had a 34.5-inch vertical jump)...but perhaps most of all, tough.
According to DraftShark's injury tracker, the gutsy QB suffered 16 injuries during his career, including seven during his two seasons with the Saints. Despite this, Carr played in 169 out of a possible 180 games in his career, good for a 93.9% availability rate.
In 2023, he suffered two concussions and three injuries/re-injuries to his throwing shoulder, and yet didn't miss a single start.
The 2025 Saints will be banking on 1st round pick Kelvin Banks Jr. setting their offensive line straight, otherwise they'll be in a world of pain with the less gutsy and much more injury-prone rookie Tyler Shough at quarterback moving forward.

>>149526156
suck

>>149537093
Funny that when they played the Rams in the WC round they kicked all fg’s and lost. A handful of freak plays happened that caused them to lose.

>>149537118
anyone with multiple concussions in a single season should not have started every game

Give me your win predictions for the AFC

1) Ravens 13-4
2) Bills 12-5
3) Chargers 12-5
4) Chiefs 11-6
5) Jaguars 10-7
6) Bengals 10-7
7) Raiders 9-8

>>149534245
No no no you don’t get it. Throwing a TD from the 2 yard line rather than letting the RB run it in is soooooo much better QB play.

>>149538492
>not knowing how divisions work
>chargers winning 12 games
>raiders making the playoffs

>>149534399
That’s retarded and so are you. By your logic the Chiefs, Broncos, and Titans are the same in 2024 because none of them won a superbowl

>>149538492
Bills
Ravens
Broncos
Texans

Wildcards:
Raiders
Chargers
Steelers

That's right, I'm predicting the Chiefs will miss the playoffs

>>149538683
Are the packers better, worse, or equal to the bucs and vikings who also lost in the wildcard? If the packers made it to the divisional round because they played against the easy vikings is that a better result? were the commanders better than the rams because they made it further, or are the rams better because they actually had a competitive game against the eagles? or does none of that actually matter because none of them won anything?

>>149538911
>Tom Brady when he only has a 5'9" jewish collegiate QB to throw to

>>149535695
based, fuck the rams, fuck the seahawks, fuck that other team in the division no one cares about. Fuck the reffies when they aren't on my side
>>149536347
those lines on the face don't like, anyone can dye their hair like a twink

Aaron Rodgers's wife is definitely not real right? She's like an AI chatbot or something right?

>>149538763
dare to dream, anon. Long as T. Swift is still coming to games I'd count on them to make the playoffs.

>>149539037
How could someone bring themselves to hate this schizo motherfucker?

>>149539051
lol, he seems like text book spending half your life under much media attention has him acting a little odd. Which then leads itself to being a fucking tin foil hatter. I'm sure he does really really like women though.

>>149539037
Who cares

>>149536392
Having help doesn't necessarily mean a QB is a fraud

I'm seeing a large uptick in desperate, pleading, and autistic posts by chefs fans here about the eagles. The only reasonable conclusion is that they are very scared.

>>149539037
>wife

>only thing saving the Cheesedicks from an 0-6 division record last year was a blocked field goal against the shitter Bears
Kek

>>149539267
And yet they still somehow had the most graceful playoff exit of all the nfcn teams. The way the Vikings and Lions seasons ended were embarrassing.

>>149538492
>>149538763
Super based.

>>149534730
>Mahomes isn't in his 30s yet already has the 2nd most playoff wins and pass TDs of all time
Yeah but even as a fellow Chiefs fag we both know nu NFL isn't really like old NFL and the rules are especially catered towards passing offenses. It's almost pointless comparing certain players that played so far apart that you basically have to compare them relative to the era of NFL they played in

Squirts fucking sucks tho
Pat would have been good on several teams and likely won owls with them

If the Eagles had Pat instead of Squirts they'd win the next 5 owls in a row
cope lol

>>149539398
>h-he just needs m-more help!!

>>149538670
I did my rankings only based on record, not playoff seeding. And it is absolutely possible the Raiders, Chiefs and Chargers make the playoffs. Look at the NFC North last year for a clear example retard.

>>149539298
>that’s $55 mil a year well spent

>>149538492
>AFC
1) Bills 14-3
2) Chiefs 13-4
3) Ravens 13-4
4) Texans 11-6
5) Chargers 11-6
6) Jaguars 9-8
7) Patriots 9-8

>NFC
1) Bucs 13-4
2) Rams 12-5
3) Lions 11-6
4) Cowboys 10-7
5) Eagles 9-8
6) Cardinals 9-8
7) Niners 9-8

>>149539546
I'd be stoked if the Pats get 9.

>>149538492
Bengals 16-1
Chiefs 14-3
Bills 13-4
Ravens 12-5
Raiders 11-6
Chargers 10-7
Texans 9-8

He does need more help, I just said if he was on the Eagles he'd win the next 5 owls in a row lol

>>149538492
Too much work, so I'll just do AFCCG.
Steelers- 27
Ravens- 19

Super Bowl
Steelers- 30
Lions- 20
MVP- Rodgers (322 yards + 2 TD)

>>149539546
post playoff picture, nerd

>>149539298
The entire NFC North was filled with retards. Being the smartest isn't really a bragging point.

>>149538903
Way to completely change the scenarios so you don’t seem as fucking stupid.
> Are the packers better, worse, or equal to the bucs and vikings who also lost in the wildcard?
Roughly equal to the Bucs because they had a 1 game difference in record and lost in the same round of the playoffs. Worse than the Vikings because the Vikings won both head to head games.
>If the packers made it to the divisional round because they played against the easy vikings is that a better result?
Yes, of course winning more games is better. What kind of question is that?
>were the commanders better than the rams because they made it further, or are the rams better because they actually had a competitive game against the eagles?
Yes they are better because they won more games in the regular season with a harder schedule and made it further in the playoffs. You’re also completely shifting your tone from “only a SB matters” to “well maybe a team that finished 4th is nearly as good as a team than finished 2nd in their conference”
>or does none of that actually matter because none of them won anything?
It matters and it’s clear you never played sports in your life. Ignoring that from a practical standpoint it’s way easier to go from a divisional or conference championship loss to a win than going from not making the playoffs, tanking and then getting to a Super Bowl.

>>149539037
That would be quite based of him. Patrician taste of 2D waifus

taste this bussy

.

Actual football watchers already know the season is going to end like this

>>149539703
and there it is

>>149540194
Can't imagine not rating Hurts in the 2020 draft let alone still doubting him in 2025. Sounds like some serious low football IQ type shit

statty boys stick to sucking off bustin "social media QB" cuckatini

>>149540440
Decent trade for both parties

>>149540440
Not a bad swing for the fish. He definitely phoned it in after getting paid but he's talented and a 6th-7th round pick swap is essentially nothing

>>149540440
has anyone posted the full details on the Jalen Ramsey trade yet? i mean cap hit, the money stuff.

>>149540440
KWAB

>>149540205
it's a lock

>>149540532
The power of MetLife despair, it feeds on souls

>>149540228
Remember when a fumble against the first Chiefs owl cost him running for a threepeat right now? lol

>>149540532
>vs bills
Bills cb vontae Davis retired in the middle of a game too

>>149540600
>metlife
AB decided to end his playing career there too.

>>149540887
What are the odds AB ends his life there?

>>149540508
Involves a devil's triangle with Aaron and DK. That's his rider though, not officially part of the trade.

>>149540895
Low, his life will end violently and suddenly so unless he spends a lot of time there I doubt it'll happen unless someone lures him there with the intent to murder him.

>Rams beat writer for the Atlantic, Jourdan Rodrigue, has be promoted within the company. She will cover the NFL in a larger capacity.
I'll miss her. Best reporter we've had since their return.

>>149540996
She was fantastic on the Carolina beat. One of the best in the business. I miss those days.

>>149540996
>Jourdan Rodrigue

>>149540996
The Athletic not The Atlantic. She knows ball she's great on podcasts too doesn't just spout stats she actually gives a lot of anecdotal evidence to back up her talking points

>>149540216
Question that I’m curious about. With how strict public building laws are now, do teams/nfl have to pull special permits to allow smoking inside for championship games and the SB?

>>149541188
say sike rn

>>149541188
You gonna fucking be a rat about it? Cheese eating bitch.

>>149541105
>Athletic not Atlantic
kek what a goof

>>149541253
The Atlantic is VERY pro Israel. WE MUST SUPPORT ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST as we gameplan for the Bengals this week.

>>149541276
Careful friend. That meme could get you deported.

>>149541276
cowardly vance memes: i sleep
thiel memes from big ballers: real shit

>>149541365
This thread is now being monitored by Palantir Guardian 2.3b.

Who's the Subway Slammer of the NFL?

>>149541502
No one because Chikan is a very specific and distinctly Japanese type of pervert that doesn't really exist in America.

Coach

>>149539193
yes it does

brady fraud from defense
mahomes fraud from offense + defense

>>149541502
Aaron Rodgers x Alex Smith

>>149541609
>mad leaf still acting like he's not the GOAT
>>149541606
Shut the fuck up you racist NEET Kiwi Piece of Shit. No one buys your LARPs and knows you tried to kill yourself and failed at that like you do everything else.

>>149541632
Coach

Fuck you Panthers win the South this year

ngl I'm pretty hungry rn could go for some chicken and watermelon and grape drank

Coach Deion

I am so smart.
I am so smart.
I am so smart.
I am so smart.
S-M-R-T...
I mean S-M-A-R-T.

>>149539398
And when you compare him to people in the same era he still blows everyone out. Nobody else went to 5 superbowls and 7 straight AFC championships in this era.

>>149542175
Zamn, Coach Prime is with the Dolphins now too? #blackexcellence #legendary

>>149542858
The Ravens could never beat the Chiefs in the playoffs with Lamar as QB.

>>149541572
not with that attitude
>>149542794
cut the bulljunk

>>149539398
That shift happened early in Brady's career. After the 2003 playoffs to be exact. He's benefited just as much as anybody from the hamstringing of defense.

>>149543085
Wrong. The change occurred to benefit Peyton Manning.

>>149542858
>>149542878
Only teams that could beat the Chiefs in the playoffs are the Bills and Bengals. If Allen loses a 5th time then it's officially in his head and he will never beat that team.

>>149540440
BLACK EXCELLENCE

MUHFUGGIN DIVORCE BIX NOOD

I'll never take Adam Schefter seriously after he engaged in twitter shitposting about the Chiefs getting help by the refs.

He gets paid millions of dollars, shitposting for clicks is beneath him.

>>149543520
He just knows ball.

Bungies 2bh

>>149543558
He's a complete douchebag who got famous from bullying smaller local sports journalist and stealing their breaking news and passing it off as his own. He did this with a lot of women and even promised them jobs at ESPN but never gave it to them. He probably #MeToo'd them.

>>149543312
>If Allen loses a 5th time then it's officially in his head and he will never beat that team.
I will tell us the future... from the far off time of 2026...
>>If Allen loses a 6th time then it's officially in his head and he will never beat that team.

>>149543569
lol imagine all the shitposting if the 7th seed Bengals take out the Chiefs

>>149543694
I used to play Arena Shooters semi professionally. There was one guy who had my number. Once I lost to him enough times I would mentally give up halfway in our duels.
>>149543724
Eh? Burrow is arguably the 2nd best QB in the league. He can beat anyone on a good night.

>>149526877
Hurts is 14-1 vs AFC teams

>>149543926
>14-1
You read the data wrong. Jalen has 1 tie against the AFC and 7 losses in the regular season. In the playoffs he's 1-1

remember when the mahomesfag tried to claim the bucs team that hadn't made the playoffs in 12 years and averaged 5 wins a season was stacked before brady got there

>>149543569
>>149543724
Joe Burrow is the only QB who has a clean win over Mahomes in the playoffs. Let's look at Mahomes 4 playoff losses

>Chiefs vs Patriots AFCCG
Brady won a coinflip in overtime, Mahomes never touched the ball. Fluke loss.
>Chiefs vs Buccaneers Superbowl
4 starters on the OL were out due to injury, we saw how much losing even 1 starter on the OL matters in the last owl. Fluke loss.
>Chiefs vs Bengals AFCCG
A rare moment when Mahomes choked in the playoffs. There are no excuses here. Bengals won.
>Chiefs vs Eagles Superbowl
They started a guard at the left tackle position. Chiefs offense never built chemistry since the WR1, WR2, WR3, RB1, RB2, TE3-4 were all injured for most of the regular season. By the time some of these players returned for the owl they were held up by duck tape and metal rods in their bones. Chiefs had no business playing in that owl. Fluke loss.

>>149544163
>>149530633

Thingken bout dem Colorado Buffaloes cuhh

>>149544163
You don't know ball. A really bad backup QB like Jameis Winston can make a good team look bad. Look at the Browns win-loss with and without Winston.
>2024
Winston is their QB. 3-14 record
>2023
Flacco is their QB 11-6 record

Eagles winning the super bowl really broke America, damn.

>>149544588
>A really bad backup QB like Jameis Winston

>>149544562
Thibkeng about my Fendies

>>149544588
even baker had two rough seasons there
cleveland gonna cleveland, it's a management problem

>>149544265
>Chiefs vs Eagles Superbowl
>Long explanation as to why the Chiefs roster was thoroughly outclassed by the Eagles
>fluke loss
By the way, Mahomes choked in that game just like the Bengals game. He played worse against the Eagles even.

>>149544787
but bro he only had TWO all pros on the offensive line. how could you possibly expect a quarterback to have a passer rating above 10.7 in the first half of a super bowl behind that line???

What team is going to be more of a handful than expected this season?

>>149544787
If Jalen Hurts had similar injury luck they wouldn't have even made it to the Super Bowl. That was a bad performance by Mahomes though I will give you that. But even if he played a perfect game you're not winning with that injured/rusty roster.

>>149543305
It was to benefit offense in general, retard. The point being he played under the same rules and same offensive bias as Mahomes; he's only been retired for 2 years. Stop acting like Brady played in the '80's.

>>149544851
I think the Titans could make a few upsets, I believe they got a pretty good QB in Cam Ward.

>>149544787
>>149544848
Chiefs went through a total of 4 different starters at left tackle position. Thuney is a guard yet was moved to left tackle position. This had a side effect of destroying their run game. Thuney was an all pro at guard, but was below average as a left tackle.

I was saying the left tackle situation would cost them the superbowl long before it happened. The real ball knowers know left tackle is the 2nd most important position in football since they keep the QB upright and healthy.

>>149545095
They're a good candidate. I like Ward too and they have a decent O line. Not sure about their skill position talent or defence. Gunnar Helm who they got in the mid 4th round was a steal thoughbeit think Ward will go to him a lot (assuming he wins the starting job)

>>149545095
an interesting bet would be which team will be first to get unfortunately dabbed on by tennessee

>>149545357
Zona and Oakland. What a rough start for ward with the Broncos defense

>>149545357
Colts week 3 given they're probably starting danny dogshit

>>149545396
broncos will eat cam alive, colts are a good shot
>Zona and Oakland
you think he's gonna throw at budda baker?

>lelphins just traded for a 30+ year old tight end who quit football for a year because he didn't want to block anymore, barely gave an effort in his last few seasons and has clear mental health issues that led to him to drug problems and a failed rap career
How has Chris Grier lasted as long as he has?

>>149545357
Tits are winning week 1 against the Donkeys

>>149543312
Allen probably should have a bit of a complex about it by now but he plays the Chiefs well every time. I think McDermott's the one with the yips.

I would like to see Allen get one shot with a HC who isn't getting bamboozled by Andy Reid every game. The Chiefs offense looked way better in that Buffalo game than they did against anyone else. And McDermott is supposed to be a defensive coach

>>149543405
This picture feels satanic

>>149545532
Chris Grier is like the Marvin Lewis of GMs. He turned a joke or a franchise into one that at least expects 10 wins a season even if they can't get over the hump in January. I'm not as down on the Dolphins as a lot of people I think they've had two good draft classes back to back. Their front 7 on defence has some legit juice even if their secondary is makeshift. The offence will still be fairly good but limited with Tua

>>149545883
>starting CB Storm Duck
oh i am laffin

>>149545938
They're very similar to the Panthers in terms of roster construction. Investing big resources in the front 7 to mitigate a weak secondary and try and stack your RB room to take pressure off your mid tier QB. I can see the plan for both the Dolphins and Panthers even if it's flawed

>>149545883
>He turned a joke or a franchise into one that at least expects 10 wins a season
No, he didn't. They're the same fucked team they were before he took over. All he did is sell out for McDaniel's first season with the Tyreek trade. He's been a colossal fucking failure that should have been gone years ago.

>>149529647
When the Lions win the Super Bowl this season, Goff will be crowned the King of Michigan.

>>149546499
>picture credit: Goff in hell as it freezes over

>>149546425
The Dolphins have won 10+ games 3 of the last 5 years and 2 of the last 3. Your perception of him doesn't match the reality of the Dolphins situation. Outside of 08 the Dolphins were dogshit for 15 years before Grier became GM. I'm not saying the combo of him+McDaniel is gonna get the Dolphins a ring but they could do a lot worse

>>149546568
Dolphins were an 6-9 win team before him and they've been an 6-9 win team with him. Him winning 2 more games 2 years ago doesn't change shit about his signings, drafting, or personnel hires. Fuck off.

>>149535813
Had Ben Johnson gone to the Jags, they and Trevor Lawrence would be Super Bowl contenders.

Khan fucked up.

>>149546676
Right? The Dolphins are in full sell off mode. They know Tua has scrambled eggs for brains and Tyreek will probably kill someone between now and Week 1.

>>149546689
How would the Jags feel about 1st and a 2nd for Trevor Lawrence?

>>149546689
There is no saving tlaw. Dude is a bust.

>>149546725
They'd do it immediately.

>>149539037
>Aaron Rodgers family

Doesn’t he hate his family and never talks to them? How would they know anything about his life?

>>149546699
Tyreek should have been traded last year. Dude's entire game is speed and he's over 30 now. He's on borrowed time not to mention all the off field shit

>>149538923
Put some respect on Jewlian's name. He made some great fucking plays. I'm surprised he didn't try to force his way to Tampa.

>>149546741
You know they arent that smart. Still Tony

force your way in this bussy

>>149546818
reek has elite speed and is still fast, he literally clocked a 10.1 this year on the track. i thought he only ran like that from child support

>>149546676
>they've been a 6-9 team with him

Except they've won 10+ games 3 of the last 5 years lol you having a melty and missing your pants doesn't change their record

The Jets haven't won 10 games since 2015 and haven't made the playoffs since 2010 yet some retard wants me to think the Dolphins and Chris Grier are some hopeless dumpster kek why don't you learn ball fuckwit

Imagine trying to sell the Dolphins...

>>149546890
That's why you trade him before his value plummets. The lolphins aren't winning shit this year. Their team construction is a disaster. Sell high. Fleece somebody for once.

>>149546914
And? That doesn't change that they've been the same level of mediocre as they've always been. They were an 8 win team under Joe Philbin and Ireland. Good job, after selling an entire draft for Tyreek they ended up with 1-2 more wins across 3 whole seasons. Who the fuck cares. You're trying to act like they went from a 2-3 win team to 9-10 and that's not the fucking facts. Shut the fuck up because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

>>149547140
I am sure drug addict Waller will do great in Miami. Where's the temptation?!

>>149525943 (OP)
Are the Niners really trying to do the Joe Montana Steve Young thing again.

>>149547140
Big melty piss pants lol

>>149547140
The problem is he doesn't have great value due to off the field issues. It's like Isaiah Bond going undrafted. The Dolphins would get the bad end of the trade.

>>149546741
Trevor Lawrence, you are a Los Angeles Ram

God I need football back already

>>149547271
Haha 55 fell on his keister

>>149546731
>>149546725

Ben Johnson could have saved him.

save this bussy

Johnson this bussy

>>149546499
McVay still hasn't been proven wrong about Goff.

>>149545239
lmao that is top tier cope Queef fags are hilarious
>>149545095
How's their O-line and run game? its pretty rare a rookie can overcome an entirely shit offense

>>149546725
you'd be wasting picks, dude is just mentally busted from playing for such a terrible organization .

WHY DOES HIS FACE LOOK LIKE A CORPSE?

WHY IS IT A DIFFERENT COLOR THAN HIS NECK!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

>>149548673
>lmao that is top tier cope Queef fags are hilarious
I didn't know Bill Belichick was a Chiefs fan. He said the same thing.

>>149548832
Yea teams sometimes have issues with their O line you fucktard this happens to teams every year. Nobody cares about excuses or cope the Chiefs got bitched out in the Superbowl as bad as the Broncos did in 2013

Name another team that won a super bowl with a guard playing the left tackle position?

Name another QB who got the 1 seed and carried his team to the Super Bowl without his starting WR1, WR2, WR3, RB1, RB2, etc.....

Name another QB who has 7 rings

>>149548832
him propping up that sorry ass mutt and his band of refbabbies makes his win over them in 2019 that much better. Self aggrandizement isn't exactly a vote in your favor.

Nobody remembers who lost

I didn't realize Steve Spagnuolo was the Chiefs' starting QB

>>149548942
Jackie Chan

Can't believe Spagnuolo didn't win Super Bowl MVP last year.

>>149548914
>noooo mahomie had to play without his wr nooo it's not fair
Maybe he shouldn't have dived into his wr's knees lmao

>>149548942
>>149548966
>>149548989
Not even the most delusional Eagles fan thinks Jalen could get the 1 seed if you took away his WR1, WR2, WR3, RB1, RB2, left tackle, and the majority of his TEs.
Mahomes is the only QB in NFL history who could do this. We saw in 2022 what happens in the Super Bowl when both teams had a healthy roster. Come apologize to me when my Chiefs blow them out in week 2.

Will never respect a supposed “Italian-American” that unironically allows themselves to go by “spaGs”

>>149548914
2015 Broncos had an offensive line infinitely more incompetent than the 2024 Chiefs.

I have more faith in gaylen squirts performing in the biggest game of his career than statpaddy mutthomo

>>149549017
Chiefs were winning before they got an elite defense. You can use this argument against Brady who never won without a top 10 defense but you can't with Mahomes.
>>149549037
I don't get it?

Spags was so close this year, but he threw a game-losing interception in overtime :(

>>149549063
nowhere in italy or sicily or wherever is the "G" pronounced, it's pronounced like "span-yolo" not "spah-guh-ses". it's even worse than mike d'antoni insisting everyone call him "dan tony"

>>149548989
Many Qbs wouldn't be as successful as Mahomes since they aren't mutts like him and arent the face of the desired future of America and thus wouldn't be propped up as this new golden child.
>Burrow
too crakkka and shit organization
>Allen
Plays too black
>Jackson
Is too black, wouldn't be accepted by white america
We can point to any objectively better qb I mentioned and know that, without a doubt, they are far better that Mutthomes just lack the team and league push that he benefits from. Never has there been a more overrated football player

I'll never respect any """man""" that allows people to have sex with their wife

>>149549054
Jalen Hurts played for 5 seasons and has a total of 10 pass TDs and 3 INTs.
In just one postseason Mahomes had 10 TDs and 2 INTs.

>>149549048
Was their WR1, WR2, WR3, RB1, RB2, etc....out for the regular season? Why do you guys pretend like that doesn't matter. 49ers had similar injuries and they missed the playoffs.

2020 was also a good run, but a rough Owl. Spags took 3 sacks and threw 2 picks :(

>>149549032
Jalen only made it to the playoffs cause of a stacked ass team and Barkley being an absolute baller on top of it.

>>149549113
did you not read my fucking post? Hurts as stupid as he can be at times, has never shit down his leg in a championship or a super bowl. that's a fucking fact that only a MAGA cultist would deny

>>149549107
ud have to have sex with a woman first for that to ever be your problem, neet

Spags really got bailed out here. Can't believe Jimmy overthrew Emmanuel Sanders like that.

>>149549063
The G is silent and pronouncing it like the equivalent of an Irishman insisting everyone calls him a “paddy”, or a Cuban wanting everyone to call him “latinX”

This is the real GOAT and I say this objectively. Never cheated like Brady. Never took HGH like Peyton. Never let his wife get railed like Mahomes. Pure elite

>>149549113
You're crying about Mahomes having a """""bad""""" offensive line consisting of two All-Pros and a Pro Bowler. I pointed out a crippled Peyton Manning won a Super Bowl behind an offensive line so much worse than Mahomes. You will move the goalposts again like you always do.

>>149549161
Damn Kevin so now I'm a virgin on top of being an Indian NEET who works at Amazon and had his parents but him a house? That's some real interesting lore you've created in that little mutt goblin brain of yours. You should write a book

>>149549179
Brees is the only reason manlet QBs still get a job today.

>>149549148
>>149549054
Mahomes is the most clutch player in NFL history and it's not particularly close. He has a win rate when trailing by 7 in playoffs. By the start of last season his win rate when trailing by 10 points was higher than Goff and Burrow's career win rate. Probabaly is no longer the case after that blowout though.

>>149549192
In the last Super Bowl it wasn't just the OL. His weapons were injured/missing. Did Peyton win without his WR1, WR2, RB1, RB2, etc.....

>>149549179
Fuck yeah.

>>149549218
I've seen him come out utterly flat too many times to agree with you. I'm totally willing to admit that Eagles get ref help ~~~for the first time in my entire fucking life mind you~~~ but i can't take Mahomes comebacks seriously when Andy Reid & company come into games completely unprepared and need a miracle to even stay in the game, let alone win. I'm just not into the gaslighting man, Hurts also has retarded comeback stats along with Carr and Prescott.

>>149549101
football fans are racist they make fun of >black QBs for relying on rushing but then Allen does it and nobody says anything. take away those rush TDs and he's a below average QB

Soon...

>>149549258
Do you genuinely believe if he had weapons he would have won that game? He was pissing and shitting in the pocket just like he was against the Bucs when he had two Hall of Fame weapons. Maybe it's time to admit the guy actually needs a top 5 offensive line if he wants to compete in the Super Bowl

>>149549179
many are saying this

>>149549292
>I've seen him come out utterly flat too many times to agree with you
Mahomes has the best playoff stats of all time. By his 28th birthday he had more pass TDs than Brady and Josh Allen combined at that age. If he's bad what does that say about them?

>>149549203
you post here all hours of the day when you're not crying yourself to sleep over your shitty nfl takes you neet fuck, its 11am in kiwiland

As an anti-fraud, Mahomes does not have the superteam around him going into his 30s to springboard him into another dynasty like Brady had with the Patriots (which in and of itself was very short lived for the pats because of how they drafted). Mahomes has already had gargantuan refball to the point where national media is calling the NFL out, they are a fucking revenue stream for Gooddell and not much more until they get a real offense around Mahomes instead of pretending Kelce is beyoooooooond fucking washed

>>149549301
I mean generally /sp/ fans are. you are right Allen is heavily reliant on his legs to get things done. Idk he's got a good arm i'd say he'd probably be a bit above average if he wasn't running all the damn time. like we could look at his numbers and just subtract ALL his rushes and TDs from that but that doesn't really tell the whole story because it isn't his entire game.

>>149549322
>Do you genuinely believe if he had weapons he would have won that game?
We just saw this matchup in 2022 when the Chiefs dominated the Eagles. I was at a Chiefs watch party. Even when they were down by 17 points not a single Chiefs fan cared since we're so used to all the comeback wins.

If the situation was in reverse and the Eagles had all those injuries they wouldn't have made it to the owl. Injuries matter when it's that much concentrated on offense.

>>149549397
Josh Allen without his rush TDs and durability is a chinese flee market edition of Justin Herbert.

>>149549403
I don't know how to tell you this... the 2022 Chiefs and Eagles are not the 2024 Chiefs and Eagles.

I wonder what Jackson Mahomes is doing rn. Probably some zesty shit

>>149549350
I'm not talking about Brady or Allen nor do I care about those two. Andy Reid looks terrible in every Eagles matchup in recent memory and Hurts has frankly overperformed against coaches like Daboll who doubted him. Hurts is a fucking retard as a front runner and a complete God as an underdog. At worst, Hurts is a nice random dice roll and at best Mahomes is expected to underperform in the super bowl. If you genuinely were a mahomesfag you'd be pressing the Kansas City management to get the fuck off Taylor Swift's boyfriend and put some actual talent around a HOF QB in his prime while he's still in his prime.

>>149549390
>until they get a real offense around Mahomes instead of pretending Kelce is beyoooooooond fucking washed
I think Kelce let the Taylor distraction get to him. We'll see if he still has it in him this season. From what I've heard he doesn't appear to want to retire, but since he only has 1 year left on his contract he's trying to avoid a situation where he says he wants to play longer and the team tells him they don't want him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTEPi0Lbmqg

That interview does not come off as a guy who wants to hang it up.

>>149549449
Masturbating to continued misery.

It's a genuine tragedy that this tripfag hasn't committed sudoku yet.

>>149549571
Too busy with Wordle.

>>149549469
>and Hurts has frankly overperformed
It's easy to overperform when you have a roster stacked to the tits. Chiefs starters would struggle to make the backup squad on the eagles.
>and put some actual talent around a HOF QB in his prime while he's still in his prime.
We saw in 2022 and 2023 he can win with JAGs (just a guy) so I don't blame the GM for not giving him help. Nobody excepted that much injuries in 2024.

He also needs at least one elite receiver and Kelce looked old in 2024.

Nigga's really hurting for attention with how quickly he replies.

>>149549601
It's about to thunderstorm and it's too damn hot. I am looking forward to training camp in a few weeks. You planning on leaving your house to see your team train in person?

>>149549469
Chiefs GM is weird. He randomly gave Kelce a pay boost to make him the highest paid TE in the league. Which is fine since Kelce deserved it, but there was no evidence Kelce asked for this raise. GMs should wait for players to complain before doing that.

I JUST NEED MORE HELP

Taylor Swift is mid

>>149549672
No Chiefs fan has said that. He just needs a semi-healthy roster.

Can one of your pro ball knowers explain to me why Purdy went from going to the Super Bowl and being an MVP finalist in 2023 to missing the playoffs in 2024?

>>149549693
>No Chiefs fan has said that.
They will.

>>149549756
he got taped

>>149549756
He's a fraud who can't do shit unless he's surrounded by all-pros

>>149549773
Reminds me of some other quarterback.

>>149549788
>>149549788
>>149549788

>>149549740
Brady is 30 in that image, Mahomes is 29. This is what their stats looked like at age 29.

Brady got prime Randy Moss. The same Moss who made a black backup QB lead the entire league in TDs (39), before he teamed up with Brady. Yet Brady and Mahomes both ended up losing the Superbowl.

F U