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I like former NBA Player and Coach Mo Cheeks
>Shams Charania: The Boston Celtics are trading Georges Niang and two future second-round picks to the Utah Jazz for rookie RJ Luis Jr., sources tell ESPN.
>>150109658 (OP)I always really liked Dennis Johnson and Mo Cheeks
AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
Why is the general so dead now.
>>150109890>no game>no trade>top players are in china
>>150109864LA/NY Transplants win again.
Enjoy the Post!
>>150109890It's August, nothings happening
>>150109684What would be the best combination of two top 10 players in the league right now? Like a Shaq and Kobe of this era but it doesn't have to be a center and a guard
>>150110057Giannis and Curry
>>150109156 #
Giannis literally had a 35-20-17 game like a week later by turning into a statpadding distributor hub playmaker for his with Dame gone lmao. And unlike Chokic, he didnt need OT for it.
>why doesn't every other center in the league just "statpad" and break his record?Because people learned in the 60s that playing like Wilt doesn't actually lead to winning. Hell, just look at this playoffs and how much better than Nuggets were when Adelman was no longer letting Chokic statpad and was letting the rest of the get touches. Even Chokic himself was playing better, while putting up lower numbers, since he had enough energy to play defense.
thoughts on my Bullies returning to dominance before I die
>>150110081No that's 5 years ago
>>150110057Shai and Jokic obv.
But really this feels like a weird inbetween era in terms of star power. The Uncs are all hanging on but clearly past prime and irrelevant. The gen that should have dominated this time is filled with busts like Zion, Sosho, etc. Flagg and Wemby look legit but aren't ready yet.
>>150110137Assuming you are in your early 20s, what is more likely to happen in the next 60 years:
1. The Bulce get not just a new owner, but a new competent owner
2. The NBA either folds or merges to become a new international league - either way the Bulls are no more
3. You die an early tragic death before either of those
>>150110130Jokic’s playoff stats this year weren’t really different to other years, he just shot worse
>>150110137Trust the process.
>>150110121>Because people learned in the 60s that playing like Wilt doesn't actually lead to winning.Its this, but also the fact Jokic has the most touches in the entire league by far
Glad some people are starting to develop intelligents to not look at stats at face value
>>150110237he rules
>>150110267option 3 has the highest odds
>>150110311TRUSTING
I cant wait for Goon to absolutely shit over Wembustyama like Hakeem shat over David Robinson.
I cant wait for XLNC to lock SGAY up and end this frauds phony run
I cant wait for KD to shit all over new york, end the "dont u regret not coming to the knacks??" crowd and lift that juicy fmvp
>>150110328Now contrast that with his usage %
>jazz collecting more wh*te players
>>150110399>>150110409most valuable parent <3
>>150110427Thinking basketball already outlined the flaw of your shitty made up stat that you dont even know the calculation parameters of.
But please. Go on and attempt to make a point
>>150110432I would fight to the death to protect this beautiful woman
>>150110399the Quebec IMG kid
>>150110439Okay Ms. taking stats at face value, it's better than just touches per game. You need to integrate them together.
>>150110209Jokic and ANT would be a better combo. Shai and Jokic both need the ball to much.
is lebron really waiting until every possible major trade is done to announce his retirement season? i bet he wants to make sure giannis isnt moved. or when hes moved so he can announce the thing 2 weeks later
pay Cam Thomas what he deserves
>>150110776bout tree fiddy
>>150110776>*whips out hawg*Okay he deserves this as payment
Watching the 2019 finals. Man there’s no way the raptors would have won if Durant wasn’t hurt. Seems like an *
>>150111065would kd have gotten the third fmvp? i remember those few minutes he played and he was looking like the best player ever
>>150111065Clearly, then Klay and Looney got hurt as well. Oddly people acted like that move made Kawhi a GOAT candidate at the time but Shai/Tatum and others have been criticized for opponent injuries since then.
>>150111065Raptors swept them during the regular season when they had KD tho
>>150111065>if>would have >could have>should haveall the rallying cries of losers
>>150111120That has never meant anything
>>150111065shouldve been the rockets regardless
>>150111065obviously yeah but because it was clearly the basketball gods punishing the warriors its different
>durant goes down>boogie goes down>klay goes down>looney went down>draymond pissed off kd enough for him to leave
>>150111113curry was bad pretty much the entire series and they were down 3-1 (barely getting that 1 win and getting btfo in every loss). before kds one quarter superhuman performance got them a win in game 5. idk if he gets fmvp but curry wouldnt have deserved it
>>150111113shit so close to the holy digits
>>150111113nah, missed the first 4 games
>>1501112673 of those were losses to be fair. if your team is down 3-1 and you lead it to 4-3, thats one hell of a flex. especially given your teamrival curry played those previous 4
>>150111289durant snapping his achilles when he was playing the best basketball of his entire career felt like gods punishment for joining in first place
freethrows for jalen brunson
>>150111158It's literally karma for what they did to Kawhi in 2017. And all the injuries after 2019 until today and that complete shit Paul George trade is karma for Kawhi for what he did to the Spurs in 2018
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>>150111366and what was the karma for this?
>>150111366god snapped kds achilles because zaza injured kawhi.
the lords ways are truly mysterious
>>150111377Warriors lost that game
>>150111377A FLAAAAMETHROWER
>>150111065Raptor was good enough to get Kawhi through an entire season+playoffs healthy while Wario were not good enough to win without grinding their players to dust.
the doncic trade and the rigged draft that followed has ruined this offseason, thanks silver :(
so philly's starting front court is gonna be bona and watford? seriously?
>>150111197Curry got double teamed so he could never get his stats. Everyone learned what a box and 1 defense was because the warriors had so little offense beside Curry
>LeMickey missed the playoffs then got swept and gentleman's swept the next three years
>>150112016I mean that’s one way to look at it I guess. There’s for sure some teams that are better at keeping healthy. But honestly I think it’s mostly luck. It just sucks that most years the best team doesn’t win, usually because of random injuries.
I’m gonna start calling Caitlin Clark street clothes
>>150113286these lips knocked jokic out of the playoffs btw
>>150113042You want her to peg you, admit it
>>150113042Waitlin til she's healthy Clark
>>150113327Jokic will never be top 10 just because of that
How can I respect a center that can’t even hit their averages against small lineups like the warriors?
>>150111065The most blatant retarded raptors upplay bait ever. 2019 is every retarded fans favourite asterisk ring.
The easiest way you can tell its a subtardman baiter trying to subtly imply "WARRIORS CANT DA DO NOTHING WITHOUT DURANT AGAINST GOOD TEAM (2019 raptors "good" lmao) is that they bring up Durant going doing instead of Klay because theyre retarded normies making a narrative who dont understand the game. Curry was the only offensive force on a team with barely any defense as a result of getting rid of everything for durant who is btw overrated as fuck as a defender in this specific stretch of his career.
Klay was on a roll in Game 6, probably due to Curry doubles, if he hadn't gone down in game 2, they wouldnt be behind in the series and if he hadnt gone down in game 6, they definitely win, shit was so close
>>150112587true but the voters dont care about steph. the bare minimum expectation for steph is 25+ ppg and 40%+ 3pt. anything below that is a chokejob in their eyes even if hes playing 1v5
>>150111131Why? what are some examples not involving injuries?
>>150113847happens almost every other doc rivers season
third dildo strike just hit a wnba court this week
first NBA fanbase to throw a dildo and at which player?
>>150113856It hit Sophie Cunningham. Honestly if I had to throw a dick….thats a very good place to hit
>DEANDRE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GIVE ME THAT RINGY RING OKAY PLEASE OK DEANDRE PLEASE I NEED THAT RING OK IM AN ALL TIME GREAT AND I WAS BEST PLAYER IN THE NBA IN 2009 OK PLEASE BRO I NEED IT IVE BEEN IN THE LEAGUE SINCE 2015 PLEASE OKIEDOKIE I PAY YOU OKAY PLEASE NIKOLA JOKIC CAN JUST WIN YOU ANOTHER OKAYKIEDOKAYKIE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RING RING RING OK????
>>150113956sophie bad as hell but i still feel bad for that happening to her. i think she even talked about how one day one of them is gonna get hit, may have been a targeted dildolaunch
>>150113917MPJ getting a dong tossed his way
>>150113725I’m gonna be honest I always don’t feel quite right calling kd the “best player” on the warriors. I can’t think of any other team that won chips both before AND after the supposed “best player” got there. It really makes me think he wasn’t the best player on the team, or at least he wasn’t the key to the team winning championships.
>>150114004currys career is objectively above kds. i dont know if people saying this started watching post kd warriors but from 2017-2019 every media outlet that wasnt warriors affiliated put durant as either 1A or just number 1. the 2017 finals were branded as lebron vs the warriors or lebron vs kd. this isnt just my opinion this is exactly what happened
why is lebron so ungrateful?
>>150114162In case you haven't noticed yet, he's a narcissist.
>every media outlet that wasnt warriors affiliated put durant as either 1A or just number 1. the 2017 finals were branded as lebron vs the warriors or lebron vs kd. this isnt just my opinion this is exactly what happened
You mentioned it, but it was because of the Lebron v KD narratives. KD like Lebron was hyped straight out of highschool or whatever. They already had history with 2012, and the media LOVES their one dimensional stat padders. I dont mean any offense to KD because i dont know that its fair to quite call him a stat padder like Lebron or Shai or Harden, or Westbrook. But he was just another modern wilt, really tall player who could dominate in his spot and naturally got the ball the most for that very fact, but didnt know how to bring out value in other players.
I have other counter arguments to insane counterarguments people make, but ill leave that be for now.
>>150114231I’m watching game 5 of the finals right this moment. And the raptors defense don’t seem to think kd is the best (offensive) player on the floor. They are occasionally leaving kd open, and are all over Steph’s shit. So anyway, just saying. I’m also a huge kd fan. I’m just not on board with the kd>curry thing. You could sell me on them being equal
>>150114288>And the raptors defense don’t seem to think kd is the best (offensive) player on the floor. They are occasionally leaving kd open, and are all over Steph’s shit.Yep. Same with Cleveland in previous Finals.
Steph was definitely the bus driver of those teams.
>>150114288> And the raptors defense don’t seem to think kd is the best (offensive) player on the floor.KD is one of the most unstoppable offensive players the game has ever seen. It's a lot easier to try and shut down 6'2 Steph then a 7 footer elite shotmaker
>>150114337>this tired argument againThe Celtics permanently BTFO out this argument.
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Durbeta has zero real rings
>>150114337I mean, that’s a take I guess. It’s possible that was their thinking but it’s dumb as fuck if it was. If you believe Durant is the bigger offensive threat, you don’t sag off him to defend the second bigger threat, that’s a losing strategy. Now, maybe this was the thinking, but I just doubt it. Every game I’ve ever seen the opposing team seems scared to death of steph, it’s pretty consistent. He isn’t the 2 way player Durant is, but imo teams think he’s the bigger offensive threat. And I’d agree with that. Both are top tier players, but I’d rather try to survive a kd barrage than a curry one. Seems like if curry gets hot you might as well call it a game. It’s close though, I’ll admit. Not many teams have had 2 of the top 5 offensive threats on their team at the same time to even have this debate
>>150114421No player in the history of the league has more clearly inspired fear in defenses than Steph.
His gravity is absolutely fucking unprecedented.
these niggas don't remember the serbian national team losing their shit over KD
>>150114439its just one stephanie fan losing his shit over anything that portrays his god in a worse light
>It's a lot easier to try and shut down 6'2 Steph then a 7 footer elite shotmaker
>>150114456It's true tho. Amen Thompson held him to 3 points by himself just this season
why did cuckry go 3-16 with a chance to win fmvp and needed kd to drop 40 on lebeta?
>>150114477What you are saying makes no sense though. It’s like, LeBron is pretty unstoppable, so let’s leave LeBron wide open and double team Austin reeves. No, the truth is, the question is usually do we double or triple team the other teams best scorer, or single cover because they just can’t be stopped, as you’d suggest. What you never see is a teams second best scorer being the one to draw doubles all game and the “best” scorer being left open. Unless that team is trying to lose on purpose. Like I said kd and Steph were both top 5 offensive players when they were together. But teams defenses were more afraid of Steph. Pretty consistently, but especially obvious to me in game 5 of the finals.
why did defenses guard kd like tobias harris when curry was on the floor?
>>150114337Doesnt make any logical sense when you think for about more than two seconds.
If this logic was sound, then Wilt chamberlain would have actually been succesful being a significantly better and more dominant scorer than Durant, while also not being a skinny twig. Wilt Chamberlain did not just play with himself and some bums. Unless you want to be so retarded to say "1960s basketball hadnt figured out yet thay you dont bother guarding the 7foot scorer that averages 50 a game because....theres no point" Then wow, I wonder how the 60s celtics could be so stupid to consistently have so much success against Wilt by actually guarding him.
This is post im replying to is the type of "thinking" that is produced by somebody who does not exist in the real world. That does not see and understand reality, that opperates on narratives where because a conjunction of words are used, those words dictate reality more than the actual real "Greatest scorer, 7 foot, 50/40/90 durr how do even stop? The sport has never seen such a player before because I circularly inflated perceptive value with selective stats and words that already imply "too great to be stopped simply".
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>>150114337>chokes against a 40 year old Duncan. He doesnt have the dawg to be the best player, despite having all the talents.
>kikes bought up all the TV rights to our national team so now I have to either switch ISP or look for a shady stream
sigh.... maybe I'll go to a local bar
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based or cringe?
>>150114421>>150114612Imagine being this big of a faggot and retard that you have to write an essay to present stupid opinions into a conversation. What a beta
did KD get swept by Tatum the same year Curry won his 4th?
What do we think of the Nuggers chances? I was really hoping they’d get a backup point guard, but that’s kind of a nitpick for an overall great offseason
>>150115205They already have Jalen Pickett
>>150115058shes based and cringe at the same time. Like typical woman cares way too much about attention, but she seems genuinely cool and chill
>>150115205looks to be much improved over last year, but that doesn't mean other teams didn't improve either. of course if the league decides to back a team hard like the Thunder got this year, nothing matters at all. will be interesting to see. i'm a bit tired of this script writing era if i'm being honest.
>>150115218A prospect I am not thrilled by.
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Just found out Celtics traded George Niang...who doesn't get along with Ben Simmons.
Come on C's, there is a big that can handle the ball and set up three point shooters. Do it...Just...Do...It
>>150114845Is this stat real? I thought it was a fact that KD was more clutch or something than Steph.
>>150115287knicks fan false flag
>>150115389No, it makes complete sense for the Celtics.
There are people who are like, b-b-but he doesn't shoot 3's.
So what? That means it's either going to be Luka Garza who can't defend or Queta that can't shoot 3's either.
That's right, someone playing big going to shoot 3's anyway.
Unless they add someone else, that probably has no chance of moving the needle for the c's this year at all. But they aren't a bad team. They aren't going to be a lottery team. We aren't getting a top pick next year. So they might as well roll the dice, take a chance with someone who potentially could move the needle for the team by being a playmaker for the other guys.
The other guys can all shoot.
And when Payton Pritchard and Hauser enter the game, bruh, Pritchard and Simmons would actually be a nightmare to defend, while Simmons, even as a big can defend guards.
If he gets 5 or 6 assists per game from the center position, they might win 50 games with him, even without Tatum.
>The other guys can all shoot.
>bruh, Pritchard and Simmons would actually be a nightmare to defend
>If he gets 5 or 6 assists per game from the center position
>>150116029If the Celtics win the ship with Ben Simmons as the guy how does that affect Tatum's legacy?
>>150116388tatum doesnt even have a legacy because he managed to lose fmvp and got benched at the olympics. nobody cares about the dude anymore
I used to buy tickets to for matchups I thought would be good but now stars sit out so much I don't buy until the day of. NBA is such an annoying product
Awkward conversations will be held when picrel has a better rookie season than LeBrick did
>>150117256Melo had a better season than LeBron in the same fucking year, nobody cared LeBron’s legacy is marketing entirely anyway
If Kobe didn’t rape that chick LeBron would be Josh Smith-tier
>>150117379He didn't, and it's not relevant anyway, nobody said LeBron had the best rookie season ever
>>150117448https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/carmelo-and-lebrons-rookie-stats
He did, and how is it any less relevant than Cooper having a better rookie year than LeBron?
>>150117469What is it in that statline that screams "better season" to you? And it's less relevant because LeBron wasn't the second greatest player ever when Melo had that season, also Melo was a normal age for rookies, while Cooper is the same age that LeBron was
>>150117503Better field goal percentage, more points, more rebounds, positive plus minus, fewer minutes, fewer FGA, better three ball on more attempts, better field goal percentage, higher TS
What about LeBron’s stat line suggest to you he had the better year? LeBron has never been the second best player ever, his fans just always argue his performance doesn’t matter because of his age (he’s too old! He was too young!)
>>150117525>more points>and it's by 0.1I don't know another fanbase that obsesses over a rookie season as much as melo fans do, shit is pathetic
but considering what little came after I can't blame them
>>150117525Their true shooting percentages were both horrible, Melo's was not much better. LeBron was a significantly better playmaker (which is important to make up for the inefficient chucking), he was also a much better defender. The rebounds, threes, and plus minus are non-factors. Regardless, like I said, it's not the point.
my heart cant fall for the "luka is actually staying fit start to finish" meme again. i dont have the strength to endure that
>>150117553Again, what part of LeBron’s rookie season suggest it was better than Melo’s? Notice how you didn’t attempt to answer that question but wrote an essay about Melo fans, whatever that would mean for a player that’s been out the league 5 years, LeBron is just overrated however you want to argue it
>>150117564Melo had 2% better true shooting percentage and LeBron averaged over twice as many turnovers as Melo, he’s not a great playmaker he has the most turnovers of any player in history
>scoring and winning basketball games is not relevant, just getting assist on a 25 win team Word
lebrons rookie season was ass
>>150117592Yeah, I don't really blame rookies for their team's records, I'm pretty sure LeBron had him beat on most impact metrics. It was close, but the difference in defence and playmaking surmount the Melo's slight edges in scoring and rebounding, even if LeBron is "not a great playmaker" he's much better than Melo was
>>150117634Which metrics anon?
>>150117583>wrote an essay>and its two sentencesanyways what made his season better was his defense, lebron may be lazy now but melo came into the league as a fucking cone
also since I know this place is obsessed with advanced stats, lebron had a higher BPM of 1.7, melo's was almost ZERO
>>150117639BPM and VORP
Inb4
>they're flawed, because X,Y, and ZSure, the point is that they better account for his defence and playmaking than simple box scores
>>150117666>>150117678Sauce on Bron rookie year BPM?
>>150117703basketball reference
>>150117703lazy ass here's your spoonfeed
Jazz traded Kyle Anderson to Philly for Drummond and a second
>>150117727Nigga...
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2004_advanced.html
>>150117754multiple players have mentioned that lebron gets unusually upset at the word bitch. it bothers him a lot for some reason
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>>150117754>We're all grown men, that bitch word ain't cool
>Austin Reaves expected to re-sign with Lakers on a deal exceeding $30M annually
>>150118091Reaves and Luka will be good together, it's a shame LeBron will be stealing their touches for another season
>>150118125I think they’ll first see if there’s Watford and Jabari Walker are playable rotation players. They’ll probably also see if the team looks competitive enough to make trades for veteran depth. I’m mostly convinced they’ll hold on to any second round picks to use for dumping salary at the deadline.
>>150118091lakeshow bros...
>>150118091bad news for bulls, warriors, sixers, nets trying to keep their guy on a team friendly deal
>>150118091Well earned. Now it is just time for LeUnc to be sent to LeValhalla
>>150118091Who would you even trade AR for?
>>150118613someone that can defend
>>150118687Reminder that Luka got to the finals with Kyrie at the 2. Reaves is a serviceable off-ball defender, but gets exposed badly as PoA. If they want defence they should trade Rui and Knecht.
>>150118777kyrie 23-24 and reaves 24-25
>>150118988the streets will never forget 2024 playoffs kyrie
>>150118988I'm talking about defence, Luka can win with a below average defender next to him, obviously Kyrie is better player than Reaves
>>150119033>Luka can win with a below average defender next to himcan he?
>>150118777Made it to the Finals then what?
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>player gets to the finals/CFs/whatever
>but he didn't win a ring though
>player wins ring
>axthually it's an asterisk
we done with rang "culture". It's just an excuse to be able to shit on any player you don't want to rate and not an actual ball conversation
>>150119184He really, really likes women
>>150119156>>150119170Yes, the Mavs lost because of offence
>>150119217We'll never be done with ring culture. The players themselves ascribe to it and always have, there's nothing you can do about it
>>150119331only the irrelevant uncs and LeAcolytes still ascribe to it
>>150119342Lebum fans are the least enthusiastic about it because he still only has 4 in 10 tries, putting him behind Kobe and Duncan
>>150119217The only people who say rings don’t matter are the new European fans cause their boys can’t win more than one, if that
>>150119417this and LeBron
>>150119417Jokic and Luka still have loads of time
>>150119281>doncic on the lakers (who gutted their defense to get him and weren't plagued with injury like the mavericks, who were so injured that the discussion of forfeiting games came up since they literally didn't have enough non injured players and they almost used up all of their 2 way players' main roster games) with homefield advantage vs the timberwolves (who swapped anthony-towns for randle, which made them weaker than the year prior since anthony towns ended up an all star starter AND all nba while randle was only an all star reserve) in the 1st round of the playoffs last year>loses in 5 meaning he won only a single playoff game in an earlier round with a supposedly "better" team>doncic on the mavericks (who had the best defense in the nba after the trade deadline but still had to worry about doncic's leg injury) without homefield advantage vs the timberwolves (who still had anthony-towns) in the WCF>wins a trip to his only nba finals appearance >yfw this easily duped casual still believes the bullshit lie that doncic carried the mavericks when it was the mavericks' defense making up for his traffic cone defense that carried him to his only finalsthis is the level of discourse that the average casual really believes and it's just plain embarrassing to see.
>>150119711Yao looks like a chad
>>150119858Literally none of this refutes anything I've said. The Mavs lost because of their poor offence, not because of Luka's defence, whether Luka "carried" them or not isn't really relevant
i need yurobasket so bad bros
Evan Mobley made second team all nba
>>150119945post-embiid east will do that. maybe banchero will get some respect now that tatum is out for the year
>>150119945Cavs won like 63 games
>>150119903>original claim is about how doncic is so good that he can win with a below average defense>upon seeing he can't back up that obvious lie, he moved the goal posts to discuss the mavericks when he was originally discussing doncic's skillnice try, casual, but i explicitly refuted everything you said, which involved both doncic's and the mavericks' skills on the court. as soon as i saw you move the goal posts i knew this was an easy win. therefore, since you have no argument, i hereby accept your admission of defeat. it's over. you may continue to believe your fairy tales but ball knowers will keep living in reality and you'll be called out every single time you try to embarrass yourself with your ignorant nonsense.
>>150120034Original claim was about how Luka can schematically win with Reaves, hence trading Reaves to improve the Lakers' defence isn't necessary. We notice the Reddit spacing btw
Austin Reaves is not worth 30m+ a year. He and Rui both deserve 20
>>150120109kek we also notice the reddit ass gifs and images that faggot always posts too
^ a random moron who can't refute the claims either showed up to screech as well lol
>>150120256come on post one of these funnys
>>150120034along with it faggot
>>150120004pablo will get some respect when he finally gits gud
>>150120403magic should have better spacing now, trust
>>150119928same, i hope its not spainwinslol.sick of that shit
luka signed up to play the rest of his prime with.... asstin reeves?
>>150120545the people who talk about austin reaves like hes some borderline all star are out of their minds. trash on defense, cant create his own shot. cookie cutter shoot guard
>>150120420nah i dont think spain will be a big threat, but maybe boring ass france
>>150120613>cant create his own shotHe literally can, that's why people like him so much
>>150120696not in the playoffs
>>150120411you can't be a PF and not be part of the spacing in current year +10
>>150120752He wasn't bad in the playoffs in 23 or 24
>>150120788hes 27, hes not getting much better, if 23 and 24 are his peak and 25 is the last we've seen of him i wouldnt take any chances
>>150120814He's a third option
nba has a lot of undrafted players out performing high lottery picks rn
>>150121018Reaves gets a lot of free throws though, I’d like to see him without the LA whistle
>>150120545Luka, Reaves and Ayton is the hottest big 3 in the league right now you pleb what are you talking about
>Luka, Reaves and Ayton is the hottest big 3 in the league
>>150121126not even the hottest big 3 in LA
>>1501211263 white boys ain't a threat
reminder the unction is losing power literally every day while the rockets are gaining
>>150121428Kev choosing the Rockets is the only good decision of his career
>>150121576kd fits well in any team, hes kd, but going for a young team led by a dpoy-level wing that can run the point and a point center was an excellent choice
whos the best player in the east after giannis and embiid? tatum or brunson? maybe kat? such a weak conference
reminder that 54 from treball is odee shooting hangpulls
>>150121694Paola is a top 5 player in the east and Mitchell top 3
>Paolo is a top 5 player in the east
eastfags explain yourselves
>>150121694Brunson is the best player in the East. He's even better than Giannis
>>150121672He finally picked a younger deep team that can compliment his game instead of going with a bunch of redundant uncs
>>150121783Suns and Nets ‘Big 3’ were prime age but had no depth and frontcourt
if you could play for 1 team other than your favourite which are you choosing? gotta be miami right
>>150121992Booker played the exact same position on offense. Same with Beal who was post prime obv. Nets had more variety in their attack and maybe could have done something if healthy and that chick owner didn't freak out over KYWH, but were still ultimately just 3 isoball dudes at the end of the day. Warriors were obviously a goated situation with off ball guys, defenders, playmakers, etc. Rockets is the next best thing with a bunch of young defenders, a terrorist PG, a passing big, etc. Only thing that could make the situation better is if the Rockets were in the East.
>>150122040Before Nico and Cuban selling the team, it would have been the Mavs. They treat their whiteboys right, no income tax, and Cuban went all out on stuff like facilities and shit. Otherwise, Lakers seems pretty nice. You get taxed a lot but the perks make up for it. If Seattle gets a team, it would be my top choice.
New Grand Blue and Nito no Joreishi chapters dropped
>>150122131I can't believe we got a new grand blue season.
>>150122205And according to some leaks we will get a third season shortly after.
if mexibro is happy im happy simple as.
shoutout rukia
>>150122525whatever happened to a halftime show that just some hot cheerleaders dancing
>>150122525please just improve the actual game. funny though
>>150122525Just add Charles Barkley and 60s-70s draft classes to MyEra and I’ll buy the game
>>150122621chuck refuses to be in 2k because old era players dont get what he considers a fair compensation
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>>150122470Godspeed, italybro
>>150122641Yeah his face and playstyle/body type is just so odd nobody can put together a convincing one in the 2k online community but I’m still loathe to exclude him when I use the 84 draft classes
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>>150122779>>150122470this is an orihime general
>>150122994wrap your lips around my dick and say that again
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imagine being gay. there's 80 iq pawgs right there.
>>150123198I bet 60% of posters here have bigger tits than her
>>150123210but do their tits smell like hooper sweat mixed with bath and body works fragrance mist?
>>150123198>The absolute state of those titsThat's why Angel Reese will always be better than her and Tranny Clark
>>150123440She probably makes more money off of her Instagram than she does her WNBA salery lol
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>>150123440STFU about tits
this is a cameron brink general
>>150123488For me it's Clark's big nose
What will be the Celtics opening day roster and depth chart with Niang gone?
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>>150123722They signed Boucher as well
>>150123722Is this finally Garza's year?
>>150123722Is this finally Tatum's year?
Remember when people thought this was about Dame in literally the Mickiest season of all NBA where 90% of the actual competition (Currdawg) was out? https://youtu.be/eolDBgeMauI
>>150124120>pnr addict jumpshooterlmao what kinda crack was thinking basketball on
>>150124133When he makes these types pf videos i just figure he really likes basketball no matter the quality and just likes to find the good lr interesting in it all.
Thats how i explain away all his lebron glaze videos
>Bought Buzelis jersey
>Bought Giddey jersey
>>150124206white boy summer
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lol this is your average WNBA hater
>>150124400el ogro americano......
>>150124400that's not the one who hit sophie
>>150124400What race is this
is /nba/ gonna be ready for a white 7 foot 9 chad?
>>150124400He hid it in his bussy
>>150124153That was coming off of Dame's best season. He was taking 10+ meme shots a game and hitting 40% of them from crazy distance. He led the league in Offensive Win Shares and OBPM that season. And it looks like the vid came out in the middle of the summer when nothing was going on. It was the best time to decide to glaze Dame.
>>150124580>He led the league in Offensive Win Shares and OBPM that season.lol, should tell you everything about how meaningless these stats are
>>150124560I think 7’9 is way too tall. After around 6’10 - 7’0 height in basketball starts to be a diminishing return.
>>150124560Guy can barely get up and down the floor.
>>150124607>a fucking leaf
>>150124607>player wasn't good back then because he was bad recentlyit's funny because this is actually how nba analysis works
>>150124560https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6z2ISFwm-4Y
i like dame, i really loved his 2018-2023 prime but i feel like this dude was destined to be offbrand curry. ill give the title of stephs punchnig bag to harden.
>>150124642>>150124646No, youre just fucking retarded. Even thinking basketball admitted how likely lucky of a streak it was. He shot 30% from 40 ft out in the 3 seasons prior. Youre a fucking retard with no critical thinking. The stats mean nothing, they have no context or consideration for the enviroment and competetion. He was NOT a top player in 2020. He didnt fucking do shit. They were empty stats.
>>150124675actually, fuck that. curry is 10-0 against dame in the playoffs lmfao
>>150124686>hurr durr leaf leaf hurr
did all Celtics fans disappear?
>>150124611Draymond Green said the same ( 7 foot 4 would be a disservice) thing about Wemby, and look where we are
>>150124706Hi Panama :) remember me? What's good my nigga?
>>150124843I’m not gonna try to argue with a 4x nba champion but there’s a pretty big difference between 7’9 and 7’2
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Bro got cooked by a Karen for being a loud mouth
>>150125036you claimed you watched a video of my 2004 pistons destroying the Lakers. I've drank 8 beers and now I will use my basketball intellect to dissect any nba video you send my way :)
>>150125064I did watch it
It was fun
>>150125042i dont have a reddit. I tried it once and called out the hypocrisy as to everyone can shit on Christianity, but if you shit on Islam or Judaism you watch the censorship and tears flow. my reddit account literally lasted one day
that aged reserve cheese is fucking my stomach up
>>150125046Teague can't stop catching L's, kek
>>150125046nigga got cooked by a soccer mom im out
>>150124843>and look where we areyeah it hasn't even been 3 seasons and he already has blood clot problems
>>150125318its in me inceltic
ordered some curry and it came from uberjeets..
>>150125207Thats not because hes tall tho
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We must secure the existence of black people and a future for black rookies
>>150125913Who cares when half of them flame out like Reed Sheppard. Only the absolute DAWGs succeed; guys like TJ McConnell and Alex Caruso
>>150125920I have faith in the Reed Redemption
>>150125929Yeah, he was a bad example tbf. Ime didn't even give him a chance.
>>150125929>Reed RedemptionWhenever I see the word "Redemption" preceded with another word that begins with R, or has a D at the end, I think of Red Dead Redemption
>>150125913wasnt it the other way around for most of the NBAs history? white people and euros started caring about basketball. also blacks that were in the nba / have the money to pay for AAU shit usually marry white or lightskin women so the kid comes out lightskin
>>150125046Damn, first Clutch checked him & now he getting dogged by Karens???
>>150124400Pure white american genes :)
I'm the james harden of the gay community.
The kid known as the best prospect in Europe regardless of age, and the ‘next Luka’, is playing in u16 EuroBasket in a few hours. Buy stock early.
>>150125931To be fair, Reed does have big flaws, I’m not that high on him. Obviously most things are obvious in hindsight, but they really should’ve played him more last year given that they were clearly not real contenders. Now he’s going to have to play through the growing pains in a much more important season
>>150125913the cavs got a dark ass american squad in garland, mitchell, hunter, mobley, allen and winning 60+ games and the skreetz dont care. theyd rather boy anthony edwards that retard.
https://youtu.be/LZZSjpCmlAo
>>150126172james harden is the faggot of the gay community already
sixers brought back the black jersey
>>150124619kek just like Bron
>>150126003>Giannpiss>Westbrick>LePregnant
>>150127653He was guarding Tatum here tho
Hi guys shai gilgeous alexander here
he's so happy with his boys
>>150128558Toni Garma. Croatian, 15 years old, big guard, plays for Real Madrid. Doesn’t seem to be much of a playmaker from what I’ve seen, but scores loads
>>150128155Jokic’s face when he has to win a game 7 in the second round
>>150128678>FIRST ONE TO DESTROY A RIM WITH A CHUCK ATTEMPT GETS TO LICK KOBES DEGLOVED PENIS AND LOSE FMVP
>>150128801>the next Luka>Doesn't seem to be much of a playmaker
>>150129290Pretty sure it's because he's a slavshit guard doing well for Real Madrid's youth teams
next season is an * since the goat not playing
>>150129415Sounds more like a big guy who can shoot who is doing well right now because he's got 4-6 inches on everyone guarding him.
More likely a quality 3 and D Guy.
>>150113856>ask for pay raise>get dildos thrown at you instead
>>150126003Why did the NBA Start in 1998? Pretty sure this is the type of number that would heavily favor Kareem if you put him on it.
Hell there's no Michael Jordan. Fucking AI doesn't know about the 1980s
WOOOO YALL FINNA MAX ME UP WHITE BOY
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>>150130011morey go get this guy, we need a forward
AYO WHERE THE BRINKS TRUCKS AT WHITE BOY
>>150129942Being 6'4/6'5 at 15 is not that crazy for elite basketball players, his competition are likely similar sized at the level he's playing
>>150130086>6'4/6'5>Big GuardMagic and Luka, they are big guards. He's pretty normal sized for a guard.
>>150130032*knocks kuminga out*
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Meal.
>>150130097Well he's big for a 15 year old guard, just not 4-6 inches taller than his opponents big
Draymond knocking out Poole to make sure theres cap space for his next contract was pretty nasty
>>150130209Looks great dont let any potential haters fool you.
>>150130209>>150130297>Looks great dont let any potential haters fool you.genuinely does. might try it out next time i uber
>>150130209This is low-key gas
>>150129985I don’t think the nba has play by play data before 1997
>From a PSU message board thread on the Sixers: “I have a few well placed NBA sources, overwhelming consensus is that Embiid has played his last game.”
If Embiid did retire, does he forfeit his entire contrac? Or could they still pay him and get it off the books? Could they just say a doctor hasn't cleared him to play and force retirement?
>>150130209I got this and a drink today for lunch, how much did you pay?
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>>150130670>PSU message boardnobody cares, black '01s are back, 76ers winning the natty baby, philly is so god damn back
>>150130707Edge cum will be roty
Jokek retired Embese at the age of 31 KEK
>>150130716Won't even start
>>150130722the 9-2 record is cemented. better luck next time, ogre
>>150130722emshiit bros...
>>150130734yeah bro, and Joel Hans Embiid and Paul George III will be completely healthy all season too lmao. Retard
>>150130670Wait what? Embiid is done?
>>150130734He’ll start but Nurse will bench him in the 4th quarter for Lowry
>>150130722>>150130760Embiid retiring is what sixers fans want kek
>>150130757Healthy Embiid is the biggest what-if in NBA history, guy dominated Jokic in every head to head who is clearly the best player today even if it’s not on defense
>>150130762>Edgecombe will play centreKEK
>>150130788i fucking hate josh harris man
Luka is in the new nba on nbc commercial and he looks fat as fuck. Very disrespectful
>>150130763Probably not but there's some smoke
>>150130792>Misses the point Classic Brit. Just went over there for work and everyone was retarded
>>150130820smoking coming from... the penn state message board?
>>150130833If I missed your point, that means it was a shit point
>>150130722Did you ever see them play against each other?
someone on the Arizona State message board has a few well placed NBA sources saying LeBron is gonna retire
>>150130855No I only watch the conference finals and finals, what's Embese like as a player?
>>150130839That's similar to how the black panther guy having ass cancer started. Hell I heard Joe Frazier died way before hand because someone at my school worked at Jefferson hospital too
>>150130870>NoI can tell you don't watch kek. Everything you post is low iq
>>150130889>got BTFO>uhh low iq
>>150130870>Did you ever see them play against each other?>NoYou lost the argument
>>150130896The embiidfag will nit pick your sentences to avoid answering the question if Embiid has made it to conference finals. It’s quite annoying. He does it everytime.
>>150130873Yeah that’s someone in Jefferson hospital. Penn State is a football school 3 hours away. I’m all for getting some closure with Embiid but I’m not taking it from some asshole in Altoona, I’m better off asking my cousin at NYU if he knows the surgeon that worked on embiids knees.
>>150130904That’s embarrassing desu.
>>150130800filename is an oxymoron.
>healthy embiid>only plays 39 games the entire seasonI would take the actual healthy Jordan that can actually play 82 games a season over Embiid any day of the week fren
>>150130945true i wish embiid could've just tanked kuminga's skull to his knee
>>150130956>embiidfag with the excuse Why hasn’t he been past the second round?
>>150130670Embiid probably still gets paid since it is an injury forced retirement. Insurance covers most of the contract so the team owner isn't stuck with the bill, but it is still counted against the cap. So the fans of the &^ers are the only real losers. What is more likely to happen is Embiid is out for 2 years "recovering from injury" and maybe you see him for a few games in 2027 or something and this drags on until the contract is over.
>>150130978kawhi magnit shot
>>15013098576ers finally get rewarded with a stealth tank and draft bounty, Morey is a fucking genius
>>150130670Wouldn't Embiid be better off trying to play his entire contract? Retirement is one year after his last game so he can keep saying he'll go for one more. I don't think I'd ever leave money on the table
>>150130896>>150130904Embiid literally cooked the fat serb when they played each other kek. I'm not even a sixers fan I just don't like the niggets either
>>150130919Someone leaked the Hodor from game of thrones meant "hold the door" years beforehand because he held the door for GRRM randomly one time. Everyone thought it was just some retard but it turned out to have actually happened. You never know. Also the sixers medical team is retarded
>>150131031>>150130985Bullish for a tank job
This is a better case scenario for the 76ers than going all in on a Maxey, Embiid and George big 3. They already got Edgecombe but the reality is if those two were healthy they’d be good enough to lose in the first or second round every year and for Morey to probably mortgage future draft picks because “we don’t know how much longer we’ll have Joel” like he’s Curry or somebody
>>150131031Tanking ain't what it used to be. The worst team in the league has a nearly 50% chance of getting the 5th overall pick. It is such a crapshoot at this point that it begs the question of why even have the draft if it is no longer a good tool to help hold up the shit teams.
>>150131092depends on how maxey looks and if there's enough prospects worth tanking for.
>>150131157Tanking is better than trying to win with Embiid as your best player
>>150131168Unless Maxey is literally the next Curry, I wouldn't put my eggs in the manlet scorer basket. Guys like Maxey are the easiest types of players to get.
>>150131142i mean they weren't doing that anyway even when fans were begging them the past three years he tried to play through injury in the playoffs
>>150131182But you don't get a good draft pick for sucking shit anymore. It is a pure crapshoot now.
>>150131203They don’t have a choice and already have three good young guards to build around, an accelerated rebuild
>>150131187exactly, maxey mccain back court needs to prove they won't project to be another lillard mccollum situation.
>>150131211I get that they don't have a choice since they have 2 semi-retired nearly untradable players taking up like 2/3rds of the salary cap, but the new lotto means they'll likely just be forced to spin their wheels and give a lot of play time to Maxey and Edgecomb these next couple years rather than actually build anything through the draft.
>>150131255They already got the 3rd overall pick, the odds are not a big deal when you have a GM that knows how to draft
>>150131211>>150131255They'll probably trade McCain right?
>>150131291Morey sucks embitch fan
>>150131157This is probably better for the sixers because they have Maxey, McCain, Grimes, VJ, and PG who can probably get them some wins but not the very bottom ones
>>150131255this was already covered in the hinkie white paper, you can overcome a shit lottery with enough picks which philly has been collecting, but for the end of pg and embiid contracts. they should've traded yabusele at the deadline for something if they were just gonna shaft him. they should flip grimes if he's worth a first rounder.
>>150131326not if he looks good
>>150131341Morey drafted McCain and Maxey directly after the Heat who still don’t have a point guard, can’t argue he’s anything but serviceable and why are you calling me an Embiid fan when I said him getting hurt/retiring is the best thing for the 76ers? You niggers are legitimately retarded and can’t seem to think of anything outside of Xbox 360/PS3 flame wars from decades ago
>>150131476>I'm not low IQThen posts shit like this to himself kek
>>150131546Morey is a liar who completely destroyed the franchise and chased Harden out of there embitch fan
>>150131688Not an argument
>>150131750They piss and shit their pants whenever they have to face him
At 18 years of age, VJ Shitcum got little boy'd by 16 year old Cooper Flagg. He's truly the heir to Emshiit.
>>150131688The highest caliber of British humor
>>150131971these jackasses will try to slip /wnba/ talk into the general too its outrageous
I spend more time talking to chatgpt than actual people
>>150132315why did you betray indiaina, myles?
Basketball hall of fame has to be the easiest hall of fame to get into, right?
Did fultz mom bang his new trainer again
It is Shai day in Hamilton right now
>>150132471People forget how much hate Curry got in 2016 and especially after, I think SGA is going to supplant him as face of the league. Winning is the only thing that matters
>>150132471Typical canadacuckold shit. He won a ring for OKC. it was even embarrassing giving Kawhi a key to Toronto while he was actively campaigning to get his uncle Dennis a job and trade pascal and lowry for paul george.
>>150132488you can't be the face of the league with that face
>>150132514The last one they gave out was to Stone Cold Steve Austin, this is far less pathetic
>>150132524LeBron was face of the league
>>150132546The zoomers are rewriting it to look like curry was a heroic guy like he wasn't on the most stacked team in the league.
>>150132488what're Luka's odds for MVP?
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SGA will be the face of the league when OKC figures out how to string two good games together
>>150132488>Winning is the only thing that mattersleague carry gets those wins
>>150132653They got Topic, stupid
>>150132670is Topic replacing Daigneault?
>>150132653They had a 15 game winstreak last season
>>150130788Bill Walton is a much bigger what-if because unlike Embiid we know Walton was a legit championship-caliber player. The what-ifs with him simply assume he could just keep doing what he'd already done. The what-ifs with Embiid assume a level of success he never actually achieved.
There is nothing, NOTHING in Embiid's playoff history to suggest he was ever going to break through and become consistent enough to win anything. He played worse in the playoffs and that's not my opinion, it's a quantifiable fact. If a guy's start drop off by like 15-20% across the board every year that's not bad luck or a bad matchup, it' just means he statpads during the regular season and can't sustain it against good competition. Embiid was a still a fraud even when he was healthy, that's why his few healthy seasons still ended in the first or second round.
>>150132740>>150132759okc is due for 1 to 3 humiliating blow out losses per playoff series
>>150132812neat. new asterisk meta development
>>150132808He played through injury
>>150132808Almost like your stats go down when you play through a torn miniscus, bells palsy, and a concussion.....
>>150130209>strawberry lemonadeBased
>no tendiesCringe. Wendy’s tendies best tendies.
>>150132833no i'm just saying lets chill with the curry comparisons
>>150132808(You)
>>150132863saw the same defense playing for team usa too
>>150132812They only really had 2 this last run, maybe 3 if you want to count that Grizzlies game comeback after Ja went down
>>150132852Wendy’s does not serve chicken tenders where I live, in fact I’ve never heard of them serving chicken tenders at all
Go Brooklyn
>>150132884even the close losses were super ugly, everyone that actually watched the thunder's regular season knows they weren't as dominant in the playoffs as they were expected to be
>>150132934Which is why all the talk about them being a super team is retarded. The majority of the team is players on rookie contracts going through their second playoff run ever, without having any real shooters and no real PG. JDub tearing his wrist also didn't help.
>>150132977which is why SGA needs to keep winning or else the brainless nba space will default to luka's lakers as the favorites
>>150132977It was disgusting how quickly the fans went from saying Jokic was going to dominate OKC just because to saying it wasn’t fair because they had Mitchell Robinson’s backup center and Caurso
Predict the 2026 KWABOTY player and team. Im going Anthony Edwards and Knicks
>>150132563wtf are you talking about you dumb fuck retard?
>>150132488I dont consider the thunder ring an asterisk but they were anything but dominant in the playoffs.
what kind of goofy ass name is shai gilgeous-alexander
>>150133222Lebron has the early lead so far. Luka has sent him to basketball Valhalla in a way ADisney couldn't.
If you haven’t hit yourself in the dick/balls while trying to dribble in between your legs you aren’t a real hooper
>>150133222ace bailey and the mavs.
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>>150133379Let me breed your girl and your son can have a name like that and be MVP
>>150132434basketball and its fellow sports entertainer hall of fame WWE are both very easy to get into yes
>>150133379HE'S AS REAL ASS BALLER NIGGA!
PUT SOME REPECT ON HIS NAME!!!
>>150133521Getting into the WWE hall of fame is difficult. Because it all comes down to getting Vince (or now Haitch) to like you. Even if you're getting good crowd reactions they're only gonna push you if you're one of their chosen stars
>>150133505This guy can’t run
>>150133379Shai + gilgeous (mom) + Alexander (dad)
Why are south slavs/balkan slavs and Italians the only whites who can ball nowadays?
>malik beasley evicted from his detroit apartment
>>150133690Spain's basketball collapse has been sad to watch.
>>150133690Aside from Banchero (hue) are there any Italians balling right now?
LuGOD will finally win the MVP this year. Even if the Lakers are 5th seed like the Mavs in 2024, as long as her performs like he did that season, the Lakers PR machine will lock that award for him.
>>150133379thats SHAIVONTE gilgeous alexander to you
>>150133844Narrative energy behind his MVP already building. He got robbed by jokic so his makeup mvp is incoming
>>150133622sounds like an STD
>>150133952You're thinking of Nikola JockItch
>>150133844If the Mavs end up being complete shit this season he is not winnning MVP. Silver will protect Nico from getting lynched no matter what apparently as we saw with the draft
Locked discord irl meet-up was fun.
Most of /nba/ missed out.
>>150134043I legit wonder if the reason blacks in America are so zesty is because the slave owners bred them to be amenable to buck breaking. It’s actually crazy that any blacks in the US even have time to fuck women and have kids in between all the gay sex. Truly and impressive and complex culture
>>150134030true plus lebron wouldn't allow it
>>150132434yes but thats because its the basketball HOF and NOT the NBA HOF
basically that means college and overseas also come into factor
see: vlade divac
>>150133379shai = hebrew for god's gift
gilgeous = anglized version of the irish word gilchrist meaning servent of Christ
alexander = alexander the great, defender of his people.
Now crawl back to whichever shithole you spawned in. SGA is literally the MC.
>>150134298I too am indian and sga makes me very horny saar
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>>150132839>>150132846If he can literally never stay healthy in any season, ever, what's the fucking point in debating what he "could" have done? Because this is apparently all that could ever happen. If any prolonged period of high-intsensity basketball causes him to shatter into pieces there's no scenario where that problem never manifests.
If we're talking about a guy who has never even played 70 games in a season or played more than 2 playoff rounds and still wore down like a used car with 500,000 miles on it then how the fuck was he ever supposed to play 2 MORE rounds? If you can't survive 2 rounds then you can't survive 4.
Imagining a consistently healthy Embiid who can actually play entire seasons and then go on prolonged postseason runs is like imagining a buff Manute Bol or a 6'10 Muggsy Bogues. It's not thinking about how things could have realistically gone differently, it's conjuring a pure fantasy that has no basis whatsoever in reality and was never, ever, going to happen. The man is a 7 foot pussy, always was and always would be. There's no cure for that
>>150134522That's why he's a what if you bozo, I'm not reading this yapfest.
>>150134298ofc its some black isrealite shit
I think if you lock Jokic and Embiid in a room together then Embiid walks out with his ass queefing
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>>150134613A what-if scenario is a plausible alternative future.
"What if the Sonics never moved?" is a what-if.
"What if the Sonics got relocated to Sri Lanka" is a fucking stupid hypothetical that's not worth discussing because it was never even a remote possibility. Things that had a 0% chance of happening are not valid hypotheticals
Embiid staying healthy and leading a team to a finals win falls into the second category. I ask you again: if the man falls to pieces every time he gets to the second round how the everloving fuck was he ever supposed to play 2 more rounds? Was he going to take the conference finals off for load management? Start megadosing sterioids?
It's a bullshit fantasy conjured up to make excuses for a fundamentally broken player. Don't ask me to take this shit seriously
What if embiid didn't chase the scoring title for his 3 prime seasons***
>>150134851then maybe you mountain fags wouldn't have to move the goal posts every damn year
>>150134851then he wouldn't be known for anything at all