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>>Previous thread:
>>95883793

>Thread Question
How many banners are there in your army?

>>95887664 (OP)
That helmet reeks of furry shit. The lenses need to be redone entirely.

Black Templars have access to three different Ancients, meaning you can run a total of 9 Ancients in your BT army

>>95887679
>marine color guard

>Get a new idea for how I want to base my army
>Need to get every single model off of their bases to do it
How do you do this without damaging the models?

>>95887664 (OP)
Is that supposed to be cloth covering the chest? Both the model and the codex cover look like shit

>>95887689
You don't

>>95887679
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

>>95887689
Depends on how your models are attached to their bases

>>95887697
Pretty sure most of them are just super glued on.
One or two might have been plastic glue before I realized that might not be a good idea.

>>95887692
>Is that supposed to be cloth covering the chest?
obviously yes, tabards are part of the Black Templar design

>>95887679
>you can run a total of 9 Ancients in your BT army
You won't do it, because you let fear control you.

>>95887679
Not giving the bladeguard ancient a fucking sword was such a mistake

>>95887679
Do they not also have access to terminator ancients?

>>95887701
I don't have a BT army yet. But If I ever actually see that Dawn of War board game in stores I'll buy it, and the unit selection is perfect for BTs...

>>95887700
Well it doesn't look like cloth does it? Its way too thick and hangs weird

>>95887705
Are those still a thing?

>>95887713
>too thick
gee I wonder why a tiny model would need disproportionately thick cloth

>>95887713
I think it looks fine, but "way too thick and hangs weird" is normal for me.

>>95887716
yes, but you have to kitbash or buy the space marine heroes one

>>95887718
Because in this case the sculptor did a shit job
Compare the cloth to what you see on other models. It doesn't read as cloth

>>95887727
I easily read it as cloth.

>>95887689
Clip around the feet and then use a sanding stick the sand the feet contact point

>>95887731
Oh, like clip them out of the bases entirely?

>>95887727
Nta but looks like cloth to me imo

>>95887713
It's the paint job

>>95887664 (OP)
>TQ
Not enough.

I miss my thunder hammer ancient

Havent painted in a bit, feels good to get back into things. Like how this guy's turning out. I kinda like keeping the hands off it makes the model more approachable with the brush.

What have you guys been working on?

>>95887757
cross faction flame motif? ;)

What are some impressive feats <your-doods> have done?
>Well in their lore they-
Shut up, I want to hear their impressive feats in game.

>>95887776
Wait, is it as simple as sticking your subs on putty to do sub assemblies?

>>95887789
My aforementioned thunder hammer ancient brained Trajan in like my third game of Warhammer

>>95887782
Never. My T’au just know that they can ease the local imperial populace’s concerns by adding fire and machinery imagery as well as scripture passages due to the peculiarities of the local branch of Imperial Creed. After all, they don’t want you to stop worshipping the emperor, they just don’t want you to pay taxes to the old boss. Don’t worry about when their follow on reconstruction and colonization forces arrive and begin re-educating.

Though sometimes, like the reliquary my Stormsurge has on a stick, are to taunt particularly zealous enemies instead.

>>95887789
I once had a crisis suit kill a Vindicator in melee.

>>95887789
My souped up Shokka killed a Russ tank commander with mortal wounds in a crusade game.

How do the World Eaters possibly function as a chapter? They don’t need to do maintenance, induct recruits, operate void ships, deal with logistics, handle gene seed and other technical functions all Astartes have to deal with, etc? Is it like a Chaos version of the Ork thing where Khorne daemons make sure they get to where they need to go, make sure everything needed to fight is functional, etc, and everything else just sort of happens without any WE needing to do anything?

I have awoken and I reposten:
>>95883764
did he ever make an official comment in regards to spectres? because I think that he's behind 3rd ed squidshees and dragons (by diaz?) reverting to his designs from 1st/2nd ed. furthermore while they were still inthe store there was always a name of the guy who sculpted them, but never who designed them which is how I assumed that jes never had anything to do with them. also zero sketches in his book(s).
>max image limit reached
imagine spectre.jpg

Why dont orks have the ability to get allies? they shouldnt be so isolated. let them ally in a leman russ, Im sure the imperium wouldnt mind lending them one.

>>95887789
My warboss tanked a space marine captain dumping every single master crafted power sword attack into his face before promptly surviving and responding in kind with a flurry of power klaw strikes that crushed the poor captain to paste and his entourage of intercessors soon followed being swiftly cut down beneath a tide of axe swings from my warbosses mob of boyz.

>>95887824
Slaves, warp shenanigans, and a core of dedicated apothecaries.

>>95887824
>Maintenance
>Operate void ships
They have slaves/cultists for that, or just steal shit from others.
>induct recruits
>geneseed
The same way every other chaos legion does it.
>logistics
It's for nerds.

>>95887836
>>95887839
The slave argument means they need the discipline to not kill the slaves. Do WE really have that level of discipline? Are there WE whose job it is to protect their ship’s navigator? Is that something WEs can actually do?

>>95887854
Yes, because they require at least some of them to be Butcher Surgeons, the ones to actually tend to the nails.

>>95887854
A ship is capable of housing an entire continent, I dont think losing slaves is an issue.

>>95887664 (OP)
>TQ
SoB
Counting the relic barers as Banners, every squad.
IG
Six in total, but I'll only ever have at most three in a game
Tau
I have a half-finished one I intended to use as an objective marker. It's staring at me from my projects shelf where it has sat in limbo since before covid.
I need to finish it.
Squats
None. My little space hulk prospectors don't use any, they would only get stuck in the cramped, narrow corridors.

>>95887854
Generally the most sane and capable leader in the warband keeps things under control, but the turnover on servants is VERY high. WE warbands basically have to win every fight because if the lose once they won’t be able to rebuild. Thankfully Khorne gives them bullshit buffs randomly and a surprising number of WE are quite lucid after they get a good slaughter in.

>>95887789
back in 3rd edition I made a hell-gun(I forget the daemon weapons name) dude for chosen champion.

He was bionics upgraded for fluff, I used a necron body converted into a lord(Metal body one). I was shot down twice, got back up (6's rolled) and fled the battlefield. Back when they were taken off the battlefield immediately for being under half strength.

It was funny as hell because he fired something gnarly at him I forget what. I think he was my last model. Somehow that memory stuck with me. I imagine him cussing as he limped away.


Aside from that I had one bloodthirster solo a 1000pt guardman army back in 3.5. It just kept finishing his units on his turn and charging the next unit. He was completely unharmed until the end.

>>95887864
So, if they get a good bloodbath in, they can assert Astartes disciplines over the Nails for a while? They turn into professionals long enough to get everything back in order for the next journey?

>>95887879
Kinda. Varies from band to band. Some are more raggedy than others. It helps if they have another legion operating with them, they can handle the nerd shit and usually use the ‘Zerkers as expendable assault troops.

>>95887879
You can think of it as Lords/MoE/whatever leadership unit has enough experience with the nails that they aren't affected 24/7 by the need to kill, while inititate zerkers have this new feeling poking their brains.
Kharn for example has shown he does have tactical knowledge... until there is no fighting whatsoever and goes full flamer on everyone.

>>95887708
>Generic space marine units
>No Gabriel Angelos or Cyrus
Like catching defeat from the jaws of victory

Are deathmarks basically useless against other necrons since their guns only destroy synaptic tissue, which necrons don’t have?

>>95887960
Necrons have built in genitals so it still harms them.

>>95887789
My Toyota Ridgerunner got shot by an Onager Neutron Laser, out of the 3 shots, two missed, one wounded because it's fucking 16 strength, but it must have hit a rearview mirror beause it fucking saved that AP-4 beast shit without cover. It proceeded to kill a couple kastellans and explode later, but holy shit it clutched things hard.

If there was some new medical tech which allowed entombed Dreadnaught pilots to be fully regenerated, would every Chapter automatically and without question restore their venerable battle brothers?

>>95887936
Funny seeing Titus get a model, could easily get the same points if they made models for Cyrus, Tarkus, and Hairgel. Or gave Gabe a plastic kit.

>>95887975
maybe but the writers would never allow something that retarded and undermining to the themes of 40k

>>95887960
Speaking of Deathmarks, I hate their fluff is that they might as well be war crimes against Necrons if deployed but on the table top they are just a squad of snipers that aren't that great.

>>95887963
>built in genitals
Wha?

>>95887776
Just started learning all this, these are the ones I finished today. Buying some thinner brushes tomorrow I underestimated how small these sisters are. But it’s still really cool to have even six kind of messy ones all together like this.
Painting them in seperate pieces like you would have been smart, shame I built the whole squad already.

I want to play the game but I dont want to paint

>>95887975
Obviously? You're talking about regrowing limbs, reviving organs and reversing aging at that point, man. No shit they would use it on dreads and damn near everyone else.

>>95888023
im a sucker for gold too, pretty good for first models anon

>>95887975
At that point they absolutely would. It's way better to up armor and up gun the invictor than to keep marines as half dead vegetables

>>95888023
you've chosen a difficult army and scheme for your first models but they turned out pretty good. a lot of new painters struggle with white but your tabards look good from what i can tell, though i would suggest starting with a light grey so you can layer and highlight up to pure white
with sisters i would recommend doing the backpacks as subassemblies and the arms too, if they're holding a two handed weapon

>>95887796
Its blutac (white tac i guess) but yeah
Sometimes if its an awkward piece like a backpack that has multiple holes, Ill superglue it to some toothpicks so I dont fiddle with it too much and its easier to hold.

>>95888039
>>95888054
Thanks guys, I'll keep the subassemblies in mind for the next squad, I did layer white on top of gray but I still need more practice with highlights I keep thinking "that shaded spot just looks like a mess" and push the white until its just another base coat and then it's also a little too thick. But i am happy with them overall. The gold looks really cool and I want my pile to be bigger.

Calgar leads to victory.

>power klaws and killsaws hitting on 4+

Dunno what gw were thinking, that's very un-orky

>>95888079
That's the sweat build isn't it?

>all of those unpainted necrons

reeeeeee

>>95887664 (OP)
They knocked it out of the park with that Ancient, he looks perfect for BT. 10/10 would crusade with. Glad I didn't go in on Space Furries.

>>95887698
If it's super glue it should be fine. If its plastic it's a fucking pain

t. rebased over 120 orks + all of the second hand shit that originally came on 28 mm

>>95888089
Haha no. I’m new and I’ve just bought and painted the units i thought looked the coolest.

And as for his necrons… im definitely trying to get him motivated to paint them.

>>95887776
Got too many projects going at once atm, I'm a slow painter and the second I start painting multiple units I get painting paralysis, I'm just doing it as I'm in an escalation league atm and I like to see most if not all of my shit painted on the table, I'd feel sick if I was fielding a bunch if greytide

>>95888101
Honestly he could've just primed them with leadbelcher or an equivalent metallic and it would've looked far better

What statline should the game be balanced around? The "jack of all trades", "net neutral" statline if you will? MEQ would be part of the answer but I don't think that is always positive for the game.

Can someone nerf the enlightened disc riders by 20 points so they can stop being scalped? They cost $80 on fucking eBay now.

>>95888089
no the sweat build is gman + calg and a bunch of vehicles

Even though it's good now, I will never forgive GW for forgetting the Lokhust Destroyers with Annihilation legion.

>>95888121
It was always supposed to be balanced around Guardsmen with Marines being elite. The designers stated this directly in 3rd edition interviews and white dwarf articles and so forth.

Just getting back into the game this edition.

+1A for two melee weapons, +1A charge, and Twin-linked for two of the same weapon, are all gone right?

>>95888173
Fair enough, but it obviously isn't that right now, which sucks.

>>95888178
Pretty much. Twin-linked is a weapon keyword that means you re-roll wound rolls.

Should I get the battleforce for world eaters? I already have the last Christmas box for them.

>>95888188
do you want a ton of ugly eightbound?

>>95888192
I do like painting muscles. They are also cooler than then the zerkers.

>>95888198
>They are also cooler than then the zerkers.
you're entitled to your wrong opinion

>>95888150
I'm guessing 2 to 3 ballistus, a lancer and whatever else

>>95888198
>They are also cooler than then the zerkers
I think you are insane but if you genuinely believe that and aren't talking yourself into it to justify buying the set then yeah, buy the set it's made for the few people just like you.

>>95888210
Juiced up marines will always be cooler than standard nobodies. I do wish they had more demonic features but I guess that’s an easy fix.
It’s the jackals that are fucking lame though, they should have been blood pact.

>>95888000
Well anon Titus is the protagonist of 40k, meanwhile Dawn of War is an RTS and therefore has little appeal with the modern audiences.

>>95888223
To each his own. I think they look retarded and not in a good way. Zerkers look great, eightbound were enough to turn me off getting into WE. I have this issue with armies something. I like the new Space Wolves but Thunderwolves and Wulfen turned me off getting into them too. Some models are goofy enough to turn me off factions. Eightbound are one of them.

>>95888223
Their issue is them being monopose models and a larger number of them will look retarded

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95888271
I saw the iron within animation recently, it was kinda cool. I don’t get why the dark eldar were such jobbers though.

>>95888271
Only the wych cults and resin shit needs a refresh. They better leave kabalites/bikes/boats alone.

>My Dudes:

They are rebels against the Imperium that aren't corrupted by Chaos, GSC or Tau. They are just humans who are tired of the of the tyranny of the Imperium and want to be free to rule themselves. Before their world of Veliste was brought into the Imperium just a scant 200 years ago their world was a fertile paradise and their society was based on a semi-nomadic clan structure. When the Imperium brought the world into compliance, they began the work of breaking down the old clan structure and have ruined the ancestral lands of the clans with their ceaseless industry. This, couples with a strong if corrupt imperial planetary governors led to rebellion that started as rioting, but escalated into a full-scale civil war that saw the Velistian rebels victorious. Knowing the Imperium would eventually come to reclaim Veliste, the clans united and formed themselves into a highly disciplined and professional military force. They learned the art of asymmetric warfare and mastered it to such a degree that even The mighty Astartes that have been part of the reclamation forces have fallen prey to their ambushes. The Imperium has attempted to retake the world 17 times and has failed each time. Many Imperial soldiers, both Guardsmen and Space Marines alike have fallen hearing the battlecry of the Velistian rebels. That battlecry being just a single word: "Freedom!"

They are regular humans so I use Imperial Guard rules for them with some GSC rules mixed in to highlight that they are primarily an ambush army, but can still fight pitched battles when they have to. Aesthetically, they resemble a heavily stylized version of Scottish Highlanders. For models I use a combination of the Border World Rangers and Highland Guard bits, both from Victoria Miniatures.

>>95888299
>aren't corrupted by Chaos, GSC or Tau.

They just don't know it yet.

>>95888302
Nope. Not the lore for my dudes. They are just humans fighting for their freedom...and winning.

>>95888299
>The Imperium has attempted to retake the world 17 times and has failed each time.

What is the reason they haven't destroyed the planet from orbit yet?

>>95887789
My Kataphrons almost killed a Nightbringer with an overwatch T1 and then finished him off on my turn. Or my Rustalker Princeps surviving 3 rounds in a row of melee at 1 wound against a brick of necron warriors.

>>95888309
Imperial Navy can't spare the assets for exterminatus. Despite popular belief, exterminatus isn't something the Imperium just throws around willy nilly. A single world in rebellion that isn't corrupted by any larger threat isn't going to warrant an exterminatus order.

Help me anons. I can't stop buying paint.

Almost done with my june vehicle

How does this make you feel?

>>95888332
I feel your pain
my local shop kept having sales on bundles so I have like 400 paints and hardly any duplicates now

So which traitor legion treats their cultists the best?

>>95888344
Word Bearers, maybe.
It sure as shit ain't Iron Warriors.

>>95888344
nurgle

>>95888339
Why even bother to include Tallarn regiments in this when you can't even play them on the tabletop? You can't even do a generic Guard army and say it's Tallarn since they got rid of all the generic units for Guard. GW sends some very mixed signals about what models and rules they want players to play with.

>>95888356
Im hoping for more regiment styles to play with.

I am currently mulling over a 15 platoon squad 2000pt army. (5 of each type)

>>95888344
Thousand Sons apparently treat their pretty well, or at least well enough the don't try to escape back to their packs.

>>95888344
1000 sons cause everyone is part of the family

>>95888356
Let me guess, your the same type of person to cry foul when GW introduces a new tank and the lore just says that it has always existed and not that it is some extremely new thing fresh from the forgeworlds?

>>95887776
I've finished the chassis of my Rhino. Only need to add a bit of weathering and paint the guns now.

>>95888379
No, I'm just saying that GW doesn't seem to know exactly what they want to do with Guard. The codex would suggest they want to reduce it to just Cadian, Krieg and Catachan, but then stuff like what I replied to makes it seem like they still want to include other regiments.

>>95888201
Trip vindi, couple of balistus, gman calgar, 5 jpi, scouts and 5 desolators. Lancers are fine but vindis do a lot of work

So do the TS get mad when they see rubrics being used by the black legion?

>>95888344
Alpha Legion without any question. They see them as valuable assets. It's probably not beneath them to use a raving horde as distraction too, but those are treated bad by everyone and aren't "part" of any of the legions.

How is the new Cabal CSM detachment doing? Not seeing it on the meta from last thread

>>95888356
Are you too autistic to just use existing rules for cadians or Krieg and use desert fighter miniatures with them?

>>95888444
Where are you pulling the data from?

Warhammer+ whatever happened there?

>>95888448
I don't know, ask anon.

>>95888455
Is that still a thing? I never hear anything about it anymore.

>>95888455
They're still releasing stuff I watch it with my mom lmao, kill lupercal is really high quality animation

>>95888322
Retarded Mary sue solution, but whatever. You do you.

>>95888482
It's not a Mary Sue solution. That is literally canon. The Imperium only uses exterminatus in the most dire circumstances. A single world in rebellion does not constitute dire circumstances.

>>95887789
5 fire dragons and an autarch popped out of a falcon and killed fulgrim in 1 round of shooting

>>95888481
>high quality
lmao, no

>>95888487
17 losses would have been the planet glassed 10x over. Look at Krieg. Exterminatus may not be in order but burning out rebellion will happen one way or another.

>>95888492
Compared to angels of death it is at least, and I still liked that one

>>95888455
man when that shit started it was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo worth it. I sold all the minis I got like twice the money back+ warhammer+ slop. Dunno about now but after year 2 I didn't like the mini that year and didn't want to take the risk though now I regret it a bit since I want to start worldeaters probably. I would have sold it back then anyway most likely so whatever

The thing I hate about Tyranids is that they use handheld gun-looking things instead of just fucking spitting acid or launching spines or some shit.

>>95888504
It is pretty stupid isn't it

>>95888504
> instead of just fucking spitting acid or launching spines or some shit.

no they do that too

>>95888504
I never liked this either, especially when their larger units have their cannons and junk fused to them

>>95888504
same but it's muh symbiotic fusion cope. I honestly think it takes away a bit of the horror aspect. They should at least make it less gun looking or something but that would require people giving a fuck

Nids should look disgusting like BETA from muvluv

nids feel a bit too dinosaury right now instead of scary alien imo

Nids need to have gushing ovipositors

Btw, inquisitor, the very first 40k book? They were onto something. Genestealers can get it.

>>95888495
>Look at Krieg

That wasn't a decision made by the Imperium at large though. That was the remnants of the local loyalists that made the decision to turn the planet into a nuclear wasteland.

>>95888512
It should be closer to picrel

>>95888536
hahahahaha you read my fucking mind it was exactly the video I was thinking about

They should add more warp aliens instead of nidders

>>95888526
All women need gushing ovipositors. Smooch your local girl peen today.

>>95887789
>>Well in their lore they-
>Shut up
I'll still tell you anyway.
In their lore around M40 they sent 2 squads from the chapter where sent to investigate a disappeared ordo xenos kill team and the inquisitor leading it.
The investigation lead to a fringe desert world within segmentum Tempestus. When on the orbit of the planet it wad noted that some ruins existed on the planet, and once the 2 squads touched down on the planet they confirmed the presence of ruins to mission command.
The ruins were ancient, crumbling from the centuries of exposure to the elements. However there were still legible carvings on the walls, the symbols intricate and holding a certain air of mystery around them.
When the marines picked up the trail of the kill team it lead to another ruin and then downwards into the crumbling temple. When the marines made contact and found the kill team it was a grizzly sight.

What awaited them was the killteam completely torn apart with blood all over the walls and even ceilings, bolter casings and las shots marks on the walls. They counted the bodies present and noted that the inquisitor and feww other members were not among the dead, meaning they could be alive. A worrying thought seeing the dead kill team members, was it a monster that got them? Traitors which sparked the gruesome conflict?

The marines continue further into the underground ruin to find the remaining members, and after hours of walking and killing few xenos fauna that came in their way and finding the occasional corpse of a dead kill team member, they finally find a giant room, the heart of the complex.
And within they see more bodies, the few members and inquisitor that had escaped the prior conflict.
The inquisitor himself was on top of the pyramid like structure, dead but still posed in a way like he was trying to reach for the artifact on the pedestal.

>>95888543
This but unironically

>>95888085
They've always done that, but they used to hit a lot harder as a tradeoff.
I'm so fucking sick of 2D Klaws.

>>95888540
A non-Chaos warp faction would be pretty cool

>>95888566
Yeah that's what I was thinking, it doesn't have to be a full faction though just some temporary influx of weird aliens, possibly like giants/leviathans. I got the inspiration from Rogue Trader when Cassia sees a big ass worm thing in the warp she has to dodge

>>95888504
>>95888507
>>95888508
>>95888509
>>95888512
Actually it's extremely cool and probably the main thing that truly separates them from any other boring "it's a bug that vomits on you" faction.

It's like saying you wish marines were less religious and more tactical looking or that you like uncorrupted renegade factions. You want to trim off the best bits because you don't actually like warhammer, it's just that all the other scifi franchises are dead so you had to get into it. I'm sorry mass effect died because it was gay but you should look elsewhere.

>>95887664 (OP)
Why do the Black Templars and specifically only them have medieval-style marine helmets?

>>95888445
Nta but yes. I'd gladly trade the three named regiment rules for generic squads again.

>>95888543
>>95888557
lol gay

>>95888571
Pseudo-intellectual retard.
Ignore him.

>>95888571
Good attempt but I'm not falling for your bait

>>95888579
Because knight aesthetic.

>>95888579
dark angels get some too

BT were my first army, primaris ancient was the first character model I ever got, and one of the models that made me pick space marines at all. Just finished terminators this weekend, feels serendipitous, BT love.

>>95888571
Based post.

>>95888579
Cause they're literally templars

>>95888588
>>95888597
>>95888601
But what do they do, man? Take a regular-ass space marine helmet and bash it into shape?

>>95888599
Those aren't your models and you won't be able to prove otherwise, you will also attempt to deflect from this fact by lashing out at others

>>95888599
Really interesting Captain model in the middle there, is that a special character?

>>95888455
Really I think GW was constantly held back by doing things on their own. They didn't really have the budget to do more, so we were left with a lot of wasted potential on the show end. And it basically killed off the youtube community they actually worked on building(losing a lot of big community artists didn't help). Time will tell if the amazon deal will lead to greener pastures with 40k media.

>>95888535
No I mean look at what Krieg does to worlds that rebel.

>>95888571
>You want to trim off the best bits because you don't actually like warhammer, it's just that all the other scifi franchises are dead so you had to get into it. I'm sorry mass effect died because it was gay but you should look elsewhere.
I mean, shit, it's hard to argue with that. We had a thread of Helldivers fags arguing exactly that, and for years before that it was Halofags.

>>95888582
It's not gay if they're wearing a skirt and have cute moans, everyone knows that

>>95888609
It's not his model, he downloaded it from facebook

>>95888609
Its the captain from the ultimate starter box. Love the base but I think the current slate changed the base size kek. Oh well.

I personally liked nids when they leaned a shit ton more into the body horror aspect as goofy as the models were, but that's just me.

>>95888631
You have no painted models from this era, you weren't a customer when tyranids looked like this

>>95888635
Yes, and? Can't a man have preference?

>>95887789
One of my favorite games of all time was my Word Bearers vs Black Templars in a 9th crusade game - my khorne lord and his squad of chosen butchering bladeguard veterans, neophytes and marshal. At the end of the game I got flanked and pushed back, but the lord and one of the chosen survived, and I won on the account of a bigger kill count, which was one of the primary objectives of the game. I see it as khorne smiling upon me for stacking skulls.

Oh and in another game, I think this was back in the 8th, my night lord double claw jump pack lord killed a squad of wulfen then tanked a thunderwolf cavalry charge

>>95888636
Why would the opinions of someone who owns no models, matter to a company based around selling models or matter to the customers of a company based around selling models

>>95888642
Well are you the company? I'm just saying my preference, and was hoping to open up discussion about the designs of nids over the years.

>>95888646
Do not respond to the low effort "muh post models" shitposter anon.

>>95888647
is that the same post toys schizo from toy?

>>95888554
I'll bite. Anon asked for some impressive feats, you said your dudes went into a pyramid and got spooked by some dead guys. It's kind of a cool set piece but it's not really much of a feat.

>>95888653
I don't go on toy so I couldn't tell you. Just ignore the faggot here

>>95888646
Noone cares about the preferences of people who just pretend to participate in a hobby

>>95888647
I keep forgetting it is (You) farming when it happens. Shame, because post models is a legitimately good comeback in certain circumstances, but it gets abused so much that it becomes an "I win" button even if models are actually posted.
I also hate making new pictures every time it is posted because I get accused of being a nomodels when I post a picture I already have. I prefer to take pictures of new models whenever I make them

>>95888631
What about that design is even remotely related to body horror. I think you're just saying nerd buzzwords that you don't know the context of to describe why you don't like something you've never interacted with beyond online pictures

>>95888332
Don't worry anon, I had the same addiction but once I had over 400 or do I slowed down as there wasn't many variants left to buy

>>95888669
>I get accused of being a nomodels
That's because you have no models
>I prefer to take pictures of new models whenever I make them
You would need to have models to do that

>>95888661
Post your timestamped models.
>inb4 muh no u

>>95888679
>hurr durr
post models

>>95888685
>deflection
Who could have seen it coming lmfao

>>95888627
I meant the vampire looking waifu dude, but thanks anyway.

>>95888686
>deflection x2
They're just so transparent

>>95888688
>deflects himself
lmao, you have not posted a single model during your spergouts you shitstirring faggot, either post at least one or shut the fuck up

>>95888670
iirc, RT and 2nd edition nids in general were more about transforming bio-matter into new forms, hence the variety of body shapes they used to have (Warriors being the goofiest). If that's wrong, feel free to correct me. There is one piece of art that always stuck with me (The one with the humans stuck in a fleshy pit being drained or otherwise poked and prodded) that symbolized that the best for me. Tyranids by the looks of things had way more unique looking forms.

>>95888688
Not me anon, I'll get one of my models with timestamp to shut this discussion up.

>>95883150
lmao that paint scheme rocks.

>>95883323
>>95883224
What units count in dread mob besides killa kans and deff dreads? Also how airbrush-able are the walkers? painting all those little scrap panels seems kinda AIDS. I like the ramshackle look of orks but I don't want to paint and build tons of models just to see them swept away

>>95883242
sick warboss

>>95888685
You know, instead of posting "le hecking inb4" you could have posted your models and it would've been a more convincing point

people who say post models without posting their own models should be shamed

>>95888599
Based Black Templar terminator borther.

>>95888699
>bully makes a person post models
>that bully will pursue the person with these models whenever they are posted

You fell for it. He pushes people to identify themselves then he fucks with them endlessly after identification.

>>95888705
I would say "killed" not shamed but same general idea.

>post models
>NO U POST MODELS

>>95888705
banned*

>>95888696
>>95888699
>no models throw a melty the second they're exposed.
Like clockwork

>>95888490
>the path of melta

>>95888707
Think I've posted models a few times and I've never been harassed by that poster again. My models aren't that exciting anyway, it's not a unique colour scheme or anything

>>95888711
it's ALWAYS the same fucking faggot starting this shit, too

>>95888699
I like big bugs as well, just feel like I missed out on something.

>>95888707
Eh I don't particularly care. Unless if they start pretending they are me, I don't give a shit what an autist on a board game board does to me.

>>95888490
Based, fuck primachs

>>95888716
>the path of meta

Does anyone else see colors IRL and get inspo to use them in your hobbying? Pic rel. The brownish pants on this illustration have me wondering what company makes a similar color. I think I saw an AK interactive paint like this once, can anybody help me out here.

>>95888599
I don't think I've ever seen BT terminators before in any pics or artwork. these are really nice and well done anon, GJ. the white looks especially crisp.

that anime toy is gay as hell though, I'm sorry

>>95888535
Yes, but there was a constant war, and the imperium did not interfer from the outside, because they still had some inside forces on Krieg. Do you really think the imperium would accept loosing 17 times against a random single planet and then just walks away, shrugging as if that was nothing?
They would devastate that planet from hurt pride or simply spite.
Besides that, 17 planetary invasions including Astartes would leave this planet looking like Gaza anyway.

>>95888705
post models

>>95888705
You shouldn't be able to post anything without posting your models. That's why this general has such rampant shitposting. No other general welcomes those larping as hobbyists anywhere else on the site. I don't know why people think it they should be allowed to get away with it here.

>>95888720
Ausfag?

>>95888504
it's an acquired taste, you just don't get it until you actually sit down and measure up tyranids with other designs of alien swarms to get why nids feel different

guns make them look more intelligent and technologically advanced, if you like nids for being space dinosaurs, you won't like this, if you like nids for being an alien race with biotech, you will appreciate it in the end
guns are more modular and practical
hands provide an ideally mobile firing support, both for a hobby standpoint for compatibility of bits and for a speculative biology standpoint, developing genetics and biological processes separately is immensely easier than developing them and then having to iron out all the ways they conflict when put together

some people fossilize on the silliness of the fleshborer having a literal magazine, but that's the one gun design with such a comically parallel feature, all the other are much more alien

>>95888705
But that can't happen because it will be obvious it is the same shit stirrer every thread.

>>95888728
Yeah.

>>95888718
>everyone I don't like is the same person
That sure would be convenient for your headcanon

>>95888705
Been saying this for a while now, the post models spammers don't ever post models themselves, even after posting your own

>>95888714
>>95888720
time to post your models

>>95888722
Anime toy website.

>>95888732
>deflection
>like clockwork
>deflects
>lmfao
>who could've seen it coming
get a new script at least, you're not fooling anyone

>>95888571
This
>>95888585
I love Megamind

>>95888720
Do you even own a single battle ready miniature. Noone give a fuck what someone with no finished models thinks about aesthetics. Let alone one who glues his leviathan shoulders backwards

>>95888744
>shifts goalposts
like clockwork

>>95888739
you have no idea who that anon is based on anything besides your delusions, get over yourself

>>95888692
I didn't realize I was in company of a gentleman. Popotan, brother.

>>95888744
Until you post yours, I've done more hobbying than you.

>>95888734
He literally did

>>95888744
Wew lad are you moving goalposts again? Now that anon has posted his models, will you?

>>95888739
>I'm aware of every posters habits and tropes

I think it would be to everyone's benefit to ignore the decalfag lashing out at every recognizable modelposter

Back on a non-shitpost topic, is there any reason why Noise Marines aren't the battleline unit for EC? Is it that they are more elite in general than Rubrics, Plague Marines and zerks?

>>95888759
you still haven't posted your models in response to that anon btw

>>95888656
To be fair, I mostly wrote that as a shitpost.
But I might turn it into actual lore for them and turn it into a not-shitpost material.

If I were to put together a 1.5k green tide army, what would it consist of? The recent points update makes it expensive to take 20 man boyz squads but that's what makes that detachment

>>95888727
This but unironically. This thread is chock full of more secondaries than any other general I participate in sitewide. For some reason this thread believes that people shouldn't have to have any knowledge of the hobby before sharing their opinions and shitposts here

>>95888771
I'm not that anon, I'm just making fun of you being schizophrenic, dont get it twisted

>>95888722
thank you non-weebfriend. Painting toys is simply all I live for pantsu or none.
>>95888706
Sick freehand, I still haven't confidently done freehand flames but that is exactly what I want to try on some templars next, but I think Ive got a bit more backlog before I make it back to them now ha

>>95888724
Working my way through this combat patrol
Your turn (^:

eBay crons arrived. Pretty happy with them, a Skorpekh Destroyer needs a new leg that it was missing and an arm broke but I don't really care because I hate Skorpekh units but the value was too good. Will just need to strip everything and I can start experimenting.

>Come up with a fun list
>Get to the game
>Opponent's list just so happens to hard counter my fun list
Not their fault but it still sucks.

>>95888794
The 9th edition cron models with the classic leadbelcher looks sick.

>>95888779
i don't really get it. I've never been part of a hobby so comfortable with people pretending to be a part of it. I haven't had a huge number of hobbies throughout my life, but I'm sure you'd never get away with stuff like that elsewhere besides female dominated hobbies/instagrammable hobbies

Just realized that the boxnought I'm painting counts as a Vehicle for this month's painting event thingy

>>95888805
Go for it anon.

>>95888727
>>95888779
>>95888801
Every so often a 4channer reinvents the concept of forums with accounts and application requirements and it's everything they ever wanted and then they just stay on 4chan.

>>95888801
You can thank the abundance of "lore channels" and 40k memes to have people give the illusion that they are primaries until scrutinized. Also doesn't help that /tg/ has a bad shitposting problem outside of certain threads.

>>95888794
I'll never understand why necron players strip things at all.
>it's silver
Finish the model
>but my army isn't silver
Glaze colour over silver so it matches your army.
Like what is the reasoning for stripping them if you're just going to paint rhem with metallics again

>>95888808
Do jetbikes count for the collage? They don't have the vehicle keyword but I think they're in the spirit of it

>>95888809
>hmm I just have so many issues to raise with these things that would require me to post my models
Boy oh boy that's so strange

I just realized my friends and me have been playing fight phases wrong since 10e dropped. We were still using the you can fight if you're in engagement range or within half an inch of a model that is within half an inch, but now the second one only works if you're touching bases with a model that is touching bases.

>>95888810
>lore channels
>memes
>battle reports
>sloptuber painting tutorials
Via these 4 media sources, people have the means to pretend as though they are a part of all aspects of 40k without ever touching a codex, model, or paint
This really is the root of all evil isn't it

>>95888813
Is a bicycle a vehicle. Use your powers of deduction and figure that out for yourself

>>95887664 (OP)
>TQ
Dunno, probably around 50 across my armies that have them.

>>95888785
>https://desuarchive.org/tg/search/image/hsxjwPu7CgVEZgKFB1NPpg/
>no timestamp
>reposted photo from 2 days ago
Nice stolen image, nomodels-chama

>>95888829
People suck this guy's dick way too hard here

>>95888781
Dont fear the freehand. You can always cover it if you fucked up majorly. And for minor fuckups, you can fix it easily.
For the fire, do your basecoat and do red zig zags which will join together. Straight lines, no need to be flowy wavy.
You can keep it red or add a touch of orange on the bottom. Then a tiny bit if yellow on the base of the flame.
I think painting minis are a lot more fun when you can do wild freehands. Try it out on your next army.

>>95888840
Because he has a lot of cool, well painted shit. Feel free to post your stuff and if it's as good I'm sure you'll get complimented as well.

>>95888844
>well painted
lol

>>95888847
(You)

>>95888847
go and post your shittly weathered lamenters for the 500th time lmao

>>95888849
Lamentersfag loves the purpleking, research your script better

>>95888847
There's only a couple people here that paint better than him and (You)'re definitely not one of them

>>95888814
I only own the joytoy models cause I dont want to paint.

>>95888849
Rent free kek

>>95888847
>>95888849
>>95888851
>one minute apart
Do better

I hate we are at the point now that recognizable model posters now have lore we have to keep track of to stop shitposters from pretending to be them or accusing everyone of being them.
I miss when the worst of it was the PAKI and Slaanesh throoder.

>>95888849
Purple anon paintmogs me all day any day of the week, also im pretty outspoken about liking his stuff, I don't know why you'd ever assume that was me

>>95888863
>I hate we are at the point now that recognizable model posters now have lore we have to keep track of to stop shitposters from pretending to be them or accusing everyone of being them.
This would easily be solved if model posters just ignored retards and faggots who go "post models :)"

>>95888840
He posts models at least.

>>95888866
The people here just pick whatever anon last picked a fight with them and assign any post they don't like to that modelposter, if someone is dragging you in a thread for seemingly no reason then it's usually because you shit on them in a previous thread.
>>95888874
Would they really be modelposters anymore if they didn't post models

>>95888863
Thread IDs would go a long way...
>>95888874
>This would easily be solved if everyone just ignored retards and faggots who go "post models :)"
ftfy

>>95888874
That's not always the case though, it seems random on which models shitposters latch onto.

This is my first time visiting this thread and I'm not disappointed at the autism, you guys are doing well.

>>95888874
>This would easily be solved if model posters just ignored retards and faggots who go "post models :)"
Most of them do, actually

>>95888883
We try

>>95888880
>Thread IDs would go a long way
Ah yes so every model poster turns into an avatarfag instead

>>95888883
It scooby do be do be like that

t. Autismus, Master of the Armour Legion

>>95888883
Just remember to be a smart man and write your timestamps different every time or people will make fun of you forever when they realize you're two separate shitposters

>>95888889
1) That's not how it works
2) Even if it worked that way it'd be a good thing
3) They're already got nicknames

>>95888893
I'm prepared, I already alter my file naming habits for another general

>>95888889
What's the difference if people are just going to use people's filenames or literary devices to troll the archive and use posts from multiple years ago to "pwn" them

>>95888889
>>95888895
Yeah realistically what changes? We get to see the model poster's opinions in other posts that don't contain their models?

>>95888893
I think I've forgotten about this one, tl;dr?

>>95888902
Nothing changes besides its harder for the laziest people to not shitpost. Dedicated shitposters and evaders will still reset their routers. But for everyone too lazy or retarded to do so it'll make it so their shitposting is traceable to an extent

>>95887733
I once rebased 20 raptors by clipping away everything but the flat paft of the base and glued it onto new ones with plastic cement. All i needed was some pva and sand to mask the seam

>>95888893
That guy was a faggot shitstirrer though, he deserved to be exposed and ridiculed

>>95888902
A lot less trolling, people can't jump into an existing reply chain unnoticed, less headaches with retards who think every additional reply is (you) or worse, samefagging.

I just don't like trolls and I think their lives should be harder every day

>>95888882
It's not really as random as you think.
Lamentersanon got faggots orbiting them because of the fact they post so much and they have admitted themselves they intentionally kick the hornet's nest to get a rile out of shitposters.
While the shitposters trying to do the same to lamentersanon.

But I have a feeling that neither of these parties understand the fact that neither is "owning" the other. It's literally just pic related.

90% of the time shitposters will latch onto you if you show you were affected by their shitposting.

>>95888910
Wasn't it lamenter fag? That background looks familiar

>>95888895
>That's not how it works
Its not exactly avatarfagging but this is whats gonna happen
>someone posts his models with a thread id
>then makes a bunch of other posts within the thread
>people associate those posts with the models posted
>a couple threads later, same anon posts more models
>same things happen
>over time people learn to distinguish posting style of said anon and now can pinpoint him without pics of posted models
>thread devolves into a circlejerk where everyone sucks off their "favorite" posters

>>95888919
That last one already happens though. Shit, people are already doing autistic research over posting habits.

>>95888919
Or instead of circlejerking the opposite happens, where shitposters pinpoint those model posters and start shit

>>95888919
>people expose themselves as circlejerkers
>recognize them, ignore all posts with their IDs
I fail to see the issue

>>95888924
Yeah, and thread ids are just going to speed up that process for anyone less autistic

>>95888903
Terminator fag lashes out at primaris primaries from time to time. He usually does so by posting either one of two metal terminators or some heresy imperial fist that will be half finished and described as a "justian" kill team

I wouldn't care if nobody ever posted their models of people just talked about the actual game more. But people who actually play the game here seem even rather than people who actually have models they want to show off. Because I am assuming there are lots of people here who have models they just don't like to show because of various reasons (embarrassed about their skill level, posted to other socials, weirded out by thread schizos, etc)

>>95888918
You try this every time anyone posts about terminatorfag

>>95888927
Have fun talking to yourself then

>>95888935
>I wouldn't care if nobody ever posted their models
ttsfag located

>>95888936
I didn't even know who terminatorfag is
No schizo plz

I thought the background looked familiar, I might be misremembering but didn't lamenterfag have some inquisitor (the game) conversions?

In short: I don't know much, I had only a feeling

>>95888915
Lamentersfag chilled out now or at least stopped shitposting with his models but he was literally the biggest shitstirrer of this general for a while. That's why he got schizos latched onto him to this day.
Slaanesh throoder is self-explanatory
Purple anon attracted shitposters because a lot of people compliment his work and he also posts his stuff fairly often.
I don't think anyone else had dedicated schizo orbiters.

>>95888811
I'm not planning on doing metallics on them though. My plan is to do primarily white for the necrodermis, ideally looking for a porcelain/pottery kinda look and then do some sort of shadow effect from under the armour/in the ribs/spine just barely showing onto the edges as though they're being animated by shadows and then probably a purple energy effect for the gauss. Not sure about the old models because of the green tubes to be honest, might just try pick up another 10 off ebay, or I might use them for basing/diorama/terrain purposes.

>>95888937
So you're a circlejerker? Noted.

>>95888941
It's a white background you retard. There's a lamenterfag timestamp at least once a week, if you're that certain then surely you could compare the twos writing and go from there, but that's been done already.

>>95888951
>if you're that certain
>"I don't know much, I had only a feeling"
>you retard

>>95887664 (OP)
>How many banners are there in your army?
two so far
they're not very good but I'll keep practicing

>>95888942
That's true.
But in general if you post a lot, it just attracts bad faith actors who only want to stir shit because to them creating chaos on a cambodian lego forum is the bee's knees.
But it is also true that if you let yourself get emotionally compromised by a shitposter, and especially show that to a shitposter, it just paints even bigger target on your back, because again lot of shitposters are asshole people who unironically think it is funny to make people mad and upset.

This is the reason why you should never reply to these sorts of cunts.
Also especially if you are in an autistic lore argument with a stranger online, don't post your models to try and "own" person and make yourself seemingly "right", only thing you've done there again is you have been compromised, but now you have also given the shitposter a target to follow and orbit around in attempts shit up the threads further.

This is the reason why I don't bother getting into retarded lore arguments here, because I know it is a fools errand.

>>95888953
Nta but it's reasonable to call you retarded for assuming every white background belonged to the same person.

>>95888948
Let me break it down since you’re apparently too retarded to realize this yourself:
in such a scenario it’s (You) who's gonna get outed as an undesirable and ostracized, not them

>>95888961
good thing you can't compromise yourself because you have no models

>>95888961
I also dunno why "post models" is a thing regarding lore arguments.
Arguments over paint schemes? Sure.
Arguments over modelling? Yeah.
Arguments over the game? I can see that.
But lore arguments? Having models doesn't mean you engage with the lore.

Moved away and am now too far from my buddies who I played AoS with, and the local stores are predominantly 40k so I'm going to give it a go. Sisters of Battle are what I've decided on and I'm wondering if the Christmas battleforce box along with the combat patrol is a good start point? I dig all the models in box boxes, especially the penitent engines. I'm thinking the 20 arco-f(l)ags is a bit too much, but I don't know the game well enough to stand firm on that thought

>>95888969
See? You're just proving my point.

>>95888975
It's not an amazing box but it does get you started with the army, I'd say go for it.
As someone who does play both systems, what's your AoS armies? Death grand alliance for me all the way.

>>95888942
>I don't think anyone else had dedicated schizo orbiters
You're right, the only reason I read the words orange and teal here are posts made in good faith, that definitely aren't shitstirring

>>95888962
>assuming
I asked and said it looked familiar

I'm tired of retards calling others retards over their retardations
You assumed I assumed and called me a retard, this would be funny if it wasn't so absurd and sad.

Please get a grip and stop bothering people

>>95888981
oh fuck lol my bad yeah I forgot about that poor dude

>>95888974
>I also dunno why "post models" is a thing regarding lore arguments.
>But lore arguments? Having models doesn't mean you engage with the lore.
If you see anyone saying it's basically a last ditch effort by some loser to seem as "correct" and give them an air of legitemacy, even though it makes zero fucking sense like you said. Ie. having models doesn't mean you're invested in the lore or even care about it.

The whole "post models" regarding lore is genuinely just a fucking dick measuring contest.

>>95888963
>People circlejerk
>Ignore them
>Somehow people are gonna dislike you
Do you want to be "desirable" to people like that?

>>95888980
Ogres for life

>>95888974
I'm amazed you didn't mention arguments over GW prices and products, because that's where I see "post models" the most
>GW is doing something shitty
>post models secondary

>>95888978
I was posting funE by posting the most obvious bait of all time, calm down. I just wanted to see if you meant it when you said you should never reply which clearly you didn't mean it

>>95888983
Nobody is bothering anyone. You making asspull claims and then lashing out at people calling you out for it is far more bothersome than anything anyone else is doing

>>95888994
That one gets me a lot like half of this fucking general hasn't got a 3d printer or buys from Ivan or Chang.

>>95888995
I'm not in the mood for jokes.

>>95888994
>>95889000
>poorfag projections
Couldn't be me

>>95888999
Wait are you trolling me right now?

**CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG**

HEY LADS WHATS GOING ON WE HAVING A MEETING?

**CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG**

WHAT?? NO I CAN'T HEAR YOU YOU GOTTA SHOUT MATE

**CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG**

>>95887789
I once had a Canoness (I think it was in 9th ed, and they were a lot fightier then than they are now) duel a Trygon in a 1v1 and win.

>>95888989
>most of the threads now consist of circlejerking around the people of influence
>ignore them
>have no one to talk to because everyone ignores you and you ignore everyone
>try to go against them
>get labeled as a schizo and shunned
shrimple as, ever been on a regular forum?
the only choices you have in such a scenario is a) accept the circlejerk rules and be allowed into the clique or b) leave for some hopefully greener pastures

>>95889001
Grow a pair faggot, the world is funny even if you arent

Do normal people actually care about whether or not someone has models?

>>95889002
OMFG HE'S BAITING ON 4CHAN WHAT A FOOKIN MADLAD

>>95889004
*RING RING RING*
WHAT?!

>>95889008
>b) leave for some hopefully greener pastures
Sir this is /40kg/

>>95889004
This was supposed to be a stealth mission, Wart!

>>95889003
People having counterpoints to your asspulls isn't trolling

>>95889009
I'm tired, Hitler.

Maybe ordering chink recasts of big units wasn't such a good idea after all...

>>95889010
I do but only cause I want to see cool models

>>95889015

>>95889025
That picture is giving me anxiety, jesus christ.

>>95889021
I'll take it as a yes

>someone answers TQ
>thread gets derailed

>>95889025
Well these will never be built. Cool ziplocs though

r8 my choice of paint variety on this pallid hand crwaler pre enshittening with oils.

>>95889039

>>95889033
You won't survive here if that's youretakeaway from that.

>>95889039
>>95889041
it's ok/10

>>95889039
>>95889041
I don't mind it, can't wait to see the colours pop when done.
Also my mate calls this this thing the shit cannon and has his tallyman tally how many nurgling balls it fires.

>>95889039
>tracks not painted behind dozer blade
):<

Khorne : skull
Nurgle: Biohazard warning
Slaanesh: male/female symbol / International man of mystery
Tzeentch : question mark

>>95889010
I don't but only because I don't want to see cool models.

>>95887704
the missing shoulderpad too

>>95889035
Just need the instruction manual that's it

>>95887679
yeah I have a couple, probably gonna helmet swap the new one to the emperor's champion/helbrecht bucket alt

>>95889053
shit I never noticed lmao

>>95889051
Tzeentch is just a flame actually.
Flames constantly dance, flicker and change, never staying still. Like Tzeentch.

>>95889050
tracks arent painted at all yet. i always leave one big part thats going to be something plain like leadbelcher till last so you got something to grab on in case you run out of disposable gloves.

>>95889033
Fuck off decalslopper

>>95889055
You have a week or I'm paying a medicine woman to hex you to bad hobby luck for the rest of your life
https://imgur.com/gallery/moroch-blooded-traitor-guard-kill-team-build-instructions-x3nZD7R

>>95889060
I didn't see it like that, makes sense, cheers!

>>95889064
Not a bad workflow you are forgiven

>Space Marines back down to a sub 46% WR
>DA detachment was a nothingburger
>SW and BA flopped

>DG, TS and EC are destroying the game
Chaos bias...

>>95889078
year of chaos

>>95889051
Nurgle's symbol is a fly, not a biohazard warning.

Ngl, I'm quite happy with how my Chaplain Dread is turning out. Boxnought is such a rad kit, magnetizing it is simply relaxing.

>>95889071
I think this version is better
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerInstructions/comments/12btszp/kill_team_blooded/#lightbox

>>95889081
3 circles

>>95889039
Why paint nurgle white?

>>95889085
oh that's lovely, great use of that vehicle icon

>>95889085
I can't help but to see this as a crozius walking stick and imagiging the hand being on his hip going
>These damn young marines dunno how to worship the emperor properly, back in my day *falls asleep*

>>95889089
nta but thats the DG's HH scheme

>>95889051
>>95889081
>>95889088
Nurgle's sign started off as actual cock and balls.
But GW then realized that was too crass so they changed it to mimic the biohazard symbol, which is also very fitting.

>>95889094
Benis :DDDDDDDD

>Old, old, old RT lore had that the Ultramarines we know in the 41st millennium are not the original chapter, but another one that took their name when the OG Ultramarines went rogue
Rogue Trader truly is a different beast.

>>95889081
It's a dick.

>>95889089
The Pallid Hand are a sub faction of death guard. Unlike other DG who were caught in the warp and had the destroyer hives virus' turn their armor green these guys are still in their original Dusk Raider colours but infected wit a virus called "Ferric Blight" that turns their blood and anything it touches into rust. Theres a similar faction in the GSC but as a certified flight of the eiststein enjoyer its near to paint them in their original colours then mank it up with typhus corrosion, a streaking grime reductive wash and some dirty down.

I used to always paint mine the default since 3rd edition and always wanted to try Pallid Hand and the new codex and finding the dark imperium stuff in a backlog pile gave me the push.

Its a nice change of pace but ffffuck do you go through screaming skull like a motherfucker.

>>95889094
>The Biohazard Symbol is actually humanity subconsciously recognising the threat of nurgle before they even knew he existed.

Its a pretty khno retcon you gotta admit.

>>95889099
Tyranids had also been in the galaxy for thousands of years with 745.M41 marking the end of the latest Tyrannic War, not the first contact with them.

What are the best and worst Army Rules in the game?

>>95889101
no fucking way >>95889094 was serious
What the fuck

>>95889111
I'm 100% biased
>Best
Luv me reanimation protocols.
>Worst
Shadow In the Warp has only worked in my favour once.

>>95889101
>grows in height and girth
>girth
Jesus christ

>>95889105
What are the colours for Pallid Hand?

>>95889111
Death Guard has to be amongst the top.

>>95889089
Why pretend to be into 40k when you're this bad at it

>>95888504
But they don't hold it their weapons most of the time.
They are grafted while still spawning, because those weapons are other Tyranid bioforms.
Even boneswords are separate living Tyranid organisms. And sometimes if the weapon bioform is complex/big enough, it acts as a backup "pilot", this is specifically mentioned for exocrines.

>>95889111
Best probably reanimation protocols and Contagion

Doctrina Imperatives is a busted rule but doesn't work on every unit

Worst are Shadow in the Warp and Oath by a pretty gigantic margin

>>95889118
Why don't you use your powers of deduction and guess based on that anons pic

>>95889094
cock n balls is slaanesh turf anyway
flies are much better symbology - the shit, the contagion, the acid regurgitate, maggots arising as life from death

>>95889118
>Prime in black then heavy zenithal with wraithbone so only the deepest recesses are dark
>Paint all over in Screaming Skull
>Shoulders, at least one of the kneecaps and a few extras like power gloves Castillan Green
>All trims in Balthazar gold
>All metals in Ironbreaker
>All cloth in Screamer Pink
>All wood accents a mix of a tiny dot of Rhinox Hide in any turqouise for damp rotten wood
>Leather and Bone/Hornes based in Rhinox
>Bones then layered with screaming skill and ushabti bone
>Then nuln oil the ironbreaker and screamer pink
>Then wash the whole model in AK screaking grime or burn umber oil paint thinned down
>After a couple of minutes to stain get a cotton bud in white spirits and lightly brush over the model to reactivate and remove oil on large flat surfaces
>Then throw on some nurgles rot and dirty down to finish up.

>>95887664 (OP)
Finished a rockgrinder recently. Kinda learning where the fun is when painting vehicles, it's all in the weathering

>>95889132
I'd say the fucking worst was the agents rule, that being "you can soup them, lmao"

>>95889132
It's funny that people were pissing and shitting their pants over "See that one unit over there? Re-roll hit and wound rolls against it" at the beginning of the edition. I supposed back then we believed GW when they said less re-rolls so something like that in that particular context sounded strong.

genuinely who the fuck writes rules at GW
heroic intervention
[...] Note that even if this charge is successful, your unit does not receive any Charge bonus this turn.

of course please do not mistake the Charge bonus of getting Fights First with something like Lance which gives +1 to wound when charging, that is a bonus you get for charging which is totally different from a Charge bonus and as such you do get it

>>95889140
Agents aren't real

>>95889141
>Entire army rule is reroll hits
>1kSons gets reroll hits as one of their 5 spells that they get to cast every turn

So many bits holy shit

>>95889142
>Shrimplfied the game
>Still makes complicated exceptions to every rule

>>95889137
Very nice. A fine addition to the vehicle collage if you'd like to be on it.

lictors, neurolictors, and deathleaper. whats the gameplay/role difference between them? the various use cases etc, and are they good? i was thinking about getting 2 lictors, 1 neuro, and DL. would that be pretty good in a general purpose nids list? the models are sick.

also, i have a GSC army, do these guys work for that vanguard organism subfaction?

>>95889155
Ty. Fine with me, didn't know there was one

Are tiny heads going to be reflected on new BT models?

This is gonna sound dumb, but has anyone made homebrew rules for running Necromunda models in a 40K army style? I kinda wanna get a shitload of Palanite Subjugators with the riot shield.

>>95889025
What's the issue anon? Sort the parts, build the bodies and then decide which option you want to use for them. Instructions for both sets are online and you can just Google them.

I've build around 10 sets of blooded by now and know the kit inside out, so I might be biased, but it's not that difficult as it might seem as soon as you separate guns/heads and body parts on separate piles.

>>95889173
Yeah the sculpts definitely aren't very inspired desu

>>95889161
>Deathleaper
Nasty unit which fights first, infiltrate, lone op and stealth means enemies need to get very close to do ranged damage. Will kill a bunch of marines in melee.
>Lictor
Cheaper version of death leaper. Great screening units and good for slaughtering infantry and objective doers
>neurolictor
Synapse aura for your infiltrators and buffs vs battleshocked units. The idea is they stack with deathleaper so start of the phase you force a battleshock with the NL and Deathleaper pushes it to -1 so usually (7+ or 8+). The battleshock fails and you get access to +1 to wound (great for hitting tougher units). Also gives a -1 to hit to that unit which can be nice in melee.

The problem is Nids we’re a start of edition release so are built around battleshock. The whole mechanic is just not as game changing as GW really wanted it to be.

>>95889142
I have no idea what they were thinking when they introduced the charge bonus concept and then didn't make lance and similar stuff charge bonuses. It's such a simple idea, and works perfectly well.
>>95889161
Lictors are much MUCH squishier than the other two, both because they lack an invuln and the difference between 6 and 7 wounds is gigantic, D2 and D3 are very common damage stats. Lictors have dual jobs of being missiles you launch at units to pick characters out of them (on average they kill most regular foot characters) and lone op action monkeys. Also free rapid ingress is great.
Neurolictors are almost pure action monkeys, their 4++ and extra wound makes them significantly harder to kill than regular lictors and there's no real point in putting them into combat, they won't threaten anything except the very squishiest of characters. The battleshock stuff is very nice if you dedicate more resources into battleshocking (neurotyrant, screamer-killers, strats in vanguard onslaught, and so on) and the +1 to wound is crucial in vanguard onslaught to boost the damage output.
Deathleaper is basically a regular lictor on gigasteroids. He is an actual combatant and can take on even fairly dangerous stuff in his weight class like chaos lords and sm captains, especially with synapse support, and his -1 leadership aura synergizes real well with the aforementioned battleshock stuff.

>>95887704
I know, right? It's like SpongeBob but without the SquarePants.

I still think to this day every army should have their own "fail" effect with leadership tests that are unique to each army to better reflect what happens when they lose "leadership", like Orkz fighting among each other to see who is the boss.
Would this be balanced? Fuck no.
Could it be fun? Maybe, but not with GW writing.

>>95888536
Bio-cum gun.

>>95887789
My bike chaplain with one wound left charged and killed a Skorpekh Lord on the last turn of a very close game. It was the last roll of the game ended up getting me the win

>>95889198
WE go berzerk and start team killing

>>95889198
Yeah but that doesn't play into cringe tourneyfag bullshit and is actually a fun idea so it'll never happen.

>>95889198
What does half the imperial roster do when 'they shall know no fear'?

>>95889198
A lot of people are bizarrely against that crunchy sort of thing.

>>95889198
Something tells me the fun loving ork fanbase would lose their shit if you told them 'take d3 mws' because they failed a battleshock test

>>95889078
Most of the top marine players were in teams events. Robert’s went 5-0 at Bristol with Ultramarines
>Marines drop below 50% WR and suddenly they’re crying like the sky is falling

DG managing to dodge a ton of nerfs in the dataslate was funny. They’re not super OP but considerably more lethal than regular chaos.

EC still solid but you need to not be a total retard when playing then, same for Tsons.

DG is definitely a crutch faction for average players to get higher winrates. A few nerfs and the goobers will start tanking the WR.

>>95889198
Those days are long gone.
40k isn't a wargame with fluffy rules anymore. It's just shrimplification and streamlining till the end of time.
11th edition is launching 1 year from now in 2026 summer, I expect it will be even worse than 10th.

>>95889214
Tsons have a ton of leeway with their spells now.

>>95889198
Why not just come up with our own and use it in games? Something like "Whenever a unit gets battleshocked, in addition to the normal effects, the following happens:"
And then something different for each faction. Like ork units take D3 mortals when they fail battleshocks because of infighting or mechanisms falling apart.
Tyranids go into instinctive behaviour and get -1 to hit if they aren't attacking the closest target, and if they declare charges, must always include the closest target in their charge targets.
The hardest part would be that so many armies in 40k are supposed to be immune to morale stuff. If you make Custodes have something negative happen when they fail battleshock Custodes players will throw a shitfit because "their powerlevel is too high or that and they'd just ignore anything bad happening to them because they're better than my dad!" or something.

>>95889224
True but their units are still not as tough as DG. The main crutch for DG is they’re both very tough (T6 marines, lots of invuls or FnP) and very lethal. Essentially makes them a lot easier to make mistakes with and not get super punished for it.

>>95888504
Their guns still follow the same rules of physics as everyone else, if they want a bio-projectile to go far it needs to have a longer barrel.
Also, and probably more importantly, it lets you look at the model on the table and think "yep, that bug has a ranged weapon".

>>95889171
>Palanite Subjugators
arbites for IA
>necromunda gangs
GSC

>>95889232
Gangs could also stand in for chaos cultists in the cults detachment

>>95889225
I would but my usual group isn't fond of homebrew rules in general
>The hardest part would be that so many armies in 40k are supposed to be immune to morale stuff.
Yeah, which is why in my mind when making such a thing you would instead have it be a different variety of things that may throw a unit off. Being the super duper best doesn't stop comms from going down or getting disorientated from heavy fire. Expanding morale beyond "morale" is one thing I like about 10th, but they didn't go far enough in my opinion.

>>95889085
looking good champ

>>95889198
Theoretically, what could each army's fail effect be?
>Orks, world eaters: Go into a frenzy and start slapping each other
>Nids: Lose connection to the hivemind, go off of instinct
>TSons: Their magic is weakened and things like the rubricae start falling apart.
>DG: They pain of their continued existence starts to affect them
Help me out guys.

>>95889085
I never knew dreadnoughts could be chaplains

>>95889213
Why would they? People still play Orks in Epic Space Marine even though a good chunk of their special shit can backfire in hilarious ways, like weirdboys, have to keep them with the boyz so they get waaaargh energy, and unleash awesome firepower, but at the same time if you juice them up good they might explode and take a quarter of your army with them.
Its just good craic - a fun game is more important than a won game.

>>95889213
i dont blame them (us i should say, as an ork player), i fail the majority of my battleshock tests and its real brutal against tyranids with shadows of the warp. imagine playing taktikal brigade and suffering d3 mortals every time an order is issued, we'd do more damage to ourselves than the opponent would

Friends

>>95889232
>arbites for IA
Right, I forgot IA exists. I'll try make a list and see if I don't get pissed off at the list somewhere.

>>95889217
11th Edition Rules - Roll a D3, on a 2 or 3 your action happens and you kill a target, on a 1 you don't.
For Ork and IG the roll is on a 3 your action happens and you kill, on a 1 or 2 you dont.

>>95889161
damn is that what a lictor looks like now? looks amazing in comparison to the old metal sculpt

>>95889266
The faggots here would celebrate these kind of rules and call you a fake grog who doesn't own models if you had any complaints.

>>95889266
dont forget the rerolls

>>95889245
>Nids: Lose connection to the hivemind, go off of instinct
Do they even have to maintain a connection to synapse creatures anymore in 10th Edition or has that gone away a long time ago?

>>95889266
nonce artist

is there a particular wash or anything that could create a soot effect on say, an exhaust? ive got AK smoke somewhere but last time i used it it was very inconsistent, felt like a different wash every time i tried it

>>95889286
Its Nictanova, not mossa.

>>95889284
That's been gone for a while. All synapse does in 10th is make it that leadership rolls are taken on 3d6 instead of 2d6...

>>95889245
>fail chaos check
>warp dildo attacks your anus

>>95889284
Nid units in general have terrible leadership but synapse lets you roll 3d6 for battleshock so you generally want to keep units within synapse. It also gives +1 strength to melee weapons, which is really potent because it makes a lot of weapons hit important break points.
So no, you don't have to be in synapse, but you really, really want to be.

Lion already did something important?

>>95889284
I miss the type of rules writing
>Here is what is happening in universe
>To represent this, here is [gameplay mechanic]

>>95888504
its make more sense if you are growing something in a slime puddle to grow a mostly generic body plan then decide what gun/stabbing hand you want at the the last minute to match the needs of the enemy forces
and its not like don't have specialist beasts that are fused with a giant shoulder slug thats also a gun

>>95889297
he increased share prices by 3%

>>95887826
>bump limit
my curiosity hungers for trivial bullshit. start talking or imma piss irl AI into becoming 25k AI with my bullshittery.

>>95889284
>tfw still have this codex, when i first started playing nids

as interesting as synapse was back then it wasnt fun to deal with as a nids player, i remember having to split up warrior squads and placing my hive tyrant in certain places just so everything was covered. cant remember if the biovore had to deal with it as i just left it at the back of the table and it never moved

>>95889290
wow, how boring.

>>95889284
you don't even ignore battleshock checks in synapse anymore, its just an extra dice and has zero effect on leadership checks if that ever comes up
synapse rules are very watered down both in and out of its range

>>95889186
Its why they are so great. Generic guys on which you can fit all sorts of arms to make they unique.
My only issue with them is their stupid neck designs. Whoever at GW thought it would be a good idea to do anything but standard ball-shaped necks for guardsmen is a retard. It sadly means you have to cut those necks to shape whenever you want to use the heads.

>>95889308
Eldar more like smelldar lol

>>95889307
>he increased share prices by 3%
Well, that's something.

>>95889312
Congrats on not throwing things out I guess?

>>95889321
You shut your whore mouth monkeigh.

>>95889328
no need for the hostilities anon

oh well, at least you lot arent arguing about space marine height anymore

Genuinely how the fuck do you defeat orks?

>>95889336
you play against me, im easy to beat

>>95889336
Like in the lore or on the tabletop?

>>95889336
What do you play, cretin?

>>95889245
>guard: start fleeing from nearest enemy, unless a commissar is nears enough to pop a few heads (krieg charge toward enemy for le shovel meme)
>admech/iron hands: machine spirits has a fit, all weapons are hazardous
>ultramarines: no effect, my perfect angels of death would never falter :)

>>95889336
Personally I've found shooting and/or stabbing them to work pretty well.

>>95889351
>minis that have existed for close to 30 years
>tfw not based

>>95889345
Lore, like they cant really take any sort of losses since they just keep multiplying

>>95889351
did you model your champ with a combi-bolter?

>>95889265
>I forgot IA exists
so does everyone else tbqhwyg

>>95889361
Exterminatus

>>95889361
>>95889366
idiots, you burn their corpses and make sure you wipe out any stragglers

>>95889361
it is possible to remove all spores and stop them coming back, just difficult

>>95889355
yeah 30 year old minis are pretty cringe not gonna lie

>>95889361
Exterminating them is really hard but not impossible with enough flamethrowers.
Otherwise you just beat them down enough times that they run out of scrap metal to make decent weapons and instead become a local pest armed with stone clubs.

>>95887664 (OP)
I like him
He looks cool

My minis have had more use in DnD than actual games this year

Votann power club

>>95889395
It's like Kanabo.

>>95889395
Could also be a KT terrain piece I guess.

>>95889336
>Genuinely how the fuck do you defeat orks?

>>95889395
nah its admechs new smash captain

>>95889364
At the time I took that photo (8th ed) it was a legal loadout for an aspiring champion.

>>95889361
You don't. there is always more orks.

>>95889361
Nids eat spores too, Necrons hypothetically would strip their molecules too but their natural activity would shed them all over the place anyway, Votann or those giant planet eaters would nom them too but maybe too many greens would give them a tummyache, otherwise lots of fire and exterminatus.

>>95889395
Imperial Fist Pain Buttplug of Attonement.

>>95889361
After a certain point Orkz just become stone tool wielding Barbarians that you need to purge every few years

>>95889361
You develop Emprah-approved methods of cooking them.

>>95889428
>orks are everywhere in the universe
>marines are legends across the universe
Are there just orks everywhere telling stories about da big 'umies?

>>95889395
Space Cathay, trust the plan.

>>95889272
yeah the lictor and deathleaper got resculpts at the start of 10th, along with the biovore. its a pretty great kit, multiple poses. it is pretty eye wateringly expensive though, $50 per lictor for like a 6 wound guy that costs 60 pts or so.

>>95889459
Yes, https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Story:Squad_Broken

>>95889467
Slaanesh is pleased we get another highly rapeable faction.

>>95889467
The Chinese sensitivity team would never give that the pass

>>95889272
It's a genuinely crazy kit, like one of the only times I can think of recently where GW noticeably flexed on improvements to kit engineering.

>3 options for posing legs, across 4 leg bits
>4 options for posing rending claws
>Talons are 7 components each, four (joints) being interchangeable, to accommodate dozens of poses between the talons
>2 head options included as well

Genuinely deserves to be considered alongside things like the 4e carnifex and ork trukk for the best they've ever produced.

>lamenterfag posting the same dude kitbashed with a khorne bloodbound weapon
>Ben
>edgecoc's pink and black warp talon
>decalfag's armor/vehicles covered in every fucking decal
>Dark eldar refresh coming soon-fag
>purplefag

are there any other /40kg/ memes or ritual posters/posting I missed?

>>95889604
Me.

>Terminator Ancient would be a decent option for a list with heavy investment in Terminators since you can double up on characters while making them better at Objective holding
>GW doesn’t actually sell a model for it
I know kitbashing is an option, but it is strange seeing a datasheet without a true corresponding model, in the Space Marine codex no less.

>>95889604
You missed pretty much every good modelposter except purple anon

>>95889500
I'm a Chink and I am only sensitive against those who refuse me rape.

>>95889631
There are a bunch of Marine kits that only dropped as part of bundles and don't have solo releases.
Way more than you'd think.

>>95889213
>Something tells me the fun loving ork fanbase would lose their shit if you told them 'take d3 mws' because they failed a battleshock test

Time for a history lesson. Let's go back to 7th edition. Orks haven't received a new codex since the end of 4th edition, but it was a good one that held up ok through the edition changes and was only just starting to show some rough edges after several USRs they relied on had received some significant nerfs in 6th and 7th. One of which was the Fearless special rule, which they only received the benefit of when above a certain number of models in a unit (10) thanks to the Mob Rule army rule. A change in combat resolution made it so that if a unit with Fearless lost a melee combat (determined by # of wounds lost by each side in that combat), that unit suffered a number of unsaveable wounds equal to the difference by which they lost that combat. So, Orks running huge mobs tended to take extra casualties they didn't used to. But ok, horde tarpits had been a bit of a problem in the meta at the time and Orks only had one real competitive strategy, which was tarpitting and running out the clock.

Then we got to see the new version of Mob Rule in the 7th edition codex. It did away with the Fearless part, which was nice, and instead gave us a D6 roll anytime we failed a morale or pinning test. On a 1, we toughed it out and passed morale if we were in combat, great! But still fail in every other case. On a 2-6, depending on a condition of either having 10+ models or a Character (things like Nob leaders were considered such as well), we got the privilege of suffering D6 automatic S4 hits (still T4 back then too). So, generally speaking, any time your Orks had to test morale, you were probably going to lose 2-3 Orks to Mob Rule on top of whatever casualties may have triggered the test (for instance, suffering 25% loss of unit strength in a single phase would do this).

7th edition Orks was the worst time to play Orks.

>new round of tournaments since the new meta
>really strong finish from a list without Calgar or Gulliman
>Incursors
>Infiltrators
>Scouts
>Jump Intercessors
>5 vehicles
It seems like the Calgar/Gulliman list of the old meta can live without them ayy lmao

>>95889681
>i don't want to run named characters to have a viable army!
>only units worth using are all of the tacticool phobos trash and other shit looking models
Aah, how the monkey paw curls.

>>95889604
AI sloppa anon?

I don't remember what thread it was someone was talking about an imperial agent you can take that gives you another free strategem like my canonesses, can anyome remind me what that was?

>>95889604
samefag accuser but I don't know if that overlaps with one already mentioned here

>>95889604
post models/you have no models sperg

>>95889694
Ah, you misunderstand anon. Some variation of those units+vehicle spam has always been what Calgar/Gulliman was enabling. More data is needed, but first impressions is that the list might just be strong anyways, albeit no longer special to the Ultramarines.

>>95889713
watch master for the 'nades

>>95889646
I get a unit being in a bundle, like the Judiciar for instance, but I don’t think GW even has a Terminator Ancient in a bundle.

>>95889604
Orange and tealposting

>>95889730
I fucking hate that guy.

>>95889743
>you will never be Astartes

TS sorcerer

>>95889681
>Incursors
Hate the look of those baldy baps with their Cyclops headband.

>>95889814

>>95889743
Surely even if he cant be astartes he's still well above baseline human at that point just from training and trials?

>>95889820
>headband
Anon that's called a visor.

Won some old 2e-3e csm. With them and some stuff from an old army I can strip I have:
Raptor squad
Havoc squad
Bike squad
Sorcerer
Marine squad
Obliterators
Noise marines
Daemon prince
Maybe a full termie squad if I convert and squint a little bit.
I used to play IW and while it was simple and quick to paint the scheme is pretty boring. What legion/warband should I go with this time?

>>95887679
Paint their flags in trans colors

>>95889839
Its a headband.

>>95889830
That's what chapter serfs are for.

>>95889604
Sallyfag posting the same 6 models for weeks until he finally finishes one that should have been done a month prior with wildly meh results and people jumping on his dick to defend him when this is pointed out.

>>95889843
I always wanted that guy in the middle, 9 year old me thought he looked so cool. I should model him up one of these days.

>>95889604
I don't think purple anon posts enough to be "ritual posting". Him being a meme? Maybe.

>>95889820
I love the Camera things on their power packs

>>95889852
Why not send him for combat training elsewhere instead of making him a glorified man-servant?

>>95889604
the guy who reverse image searches and catalogues every model posted here is low-key the worst poster in /40kg/

>>95889830
I haven’t read that particular book, but from my understanding when you get rejected by the implants at the last second you’re still eligible for a pretty high place among the mortal contingent of the Chapter that helps with general logistics. A company or even a full chapter of Marines isn’t enough to operate one of their ships after all, they need regular Captains and officers.

>>95889858
What the fuck is that giant boxy ass looking sight thing on top of their guns? Why is it so xbox hueg?

>>95889604
I LIKE ORKS :D

>>95889858
Why do they only have half a helmet?
Why is their right shoulder guard smaller than their left?

>>95889873
OI'M ERE YA GIT, JUS KEEPIN' IT STELFY LOIKE. GOT ME PURPLE CLOAK ON IN ALL.

>>95889870
They are supposed to be high tech spec ops sights that has multiple spectrums of vision
Now why would a space marine need one on his gun when his helmet/ visor does the same? Then what would be the purpose of the aim assist camera on his power pack?
I dont know
Also the Joytoy model also looks really mid

>>95889859
Chapter serfs also form the PDF, crew chapter ships, etc. There's plenty of combat roles.

>>95889882
The power pack camera dealy is a scanner too, it lazes targets to improve the accuracy of your other guys.

>>95889859
They do, but combat roles are very limited in an SM chapter for none marines. Something about the codex I think, so they can’t amass too many mortal troops under them unless they’re a first founding chapter who get to ignore the space book when they want. Technically marines aren’t supposed to command Guardsmen forces or raise their own equivalent. In practice most mortal commanders defer to the marines “suggestions.”

>>95889858
>>95889882
I just fucking realized after all these years that the left shoulder is supposed to represent your chapter while the right is more fluff

I love drybrushing. Kinda looks ass up close but looks nice on table and allows me to be lazy. I'll paint these two's faces and hands and whatnot next regularly. If they end up nice I'll just follow the recipe on the remaining eight lads.

>>95889904
>Plumbnids

>>95889904
Drybrushing is an easy to do, hard to master technique. Doing it well will give you a better effect than regular edge highlighting a lot of the time, but personally I’ve found you’re restricted on when you can do it in the process and it’s harder to fix mistakes from overspills after the fact.

>>95889904
a very girly bubblegum pink paired with purple looks awesome. The two colors are rather underutilized together now that I think about it

Kind of insane how just like, not having the presence of John Blanche in the building anymore somehow spiritually degrades all the 40k art.

>>95889971
Looks fine to me.

>>95889971
Bruh what the fuck is that

Consider big robots.

>>95889971
same mid artist

>>95889984
This is much, much better than the BT codex art.

>>95889971
Mid, very mid. Arms look weird. Head looks like an afterthought.

>>95889971
The marine's helmet both looks too small and strangely shaped, like it's smushed and forced upward like those Aztec head binding dudes.

>>95889975
For sure yeah it definitely isn't getting worse.

>>95890000
It made me think of this shit. Nice quads.

>>95889921
What's a Tyranid? We're GSC
>>95889949
I came upon it by coincidence. I had Naggaroth Night from the introductory set so didn't want to buy a new paint to paint my guys' carapace and use what I had. Then I grabbed a Warlord Purple at the recommendation of Poorhammer, and also grabbed a pink to paint the tongue's etc. I was going to get something in line with Naggaroth Night to use as a highlight color but then wanted to see how warlord purple would look on it and the rest was history.

>>95889984
Insane they lost Thomas Elliot on the sigmar stuff desu, one of the only goated nuWarhammer artists.

>>95890006

>>95889971
They HAVE good new Templar arts.
Pic rel is an official GW art that they should've used for the codex.

>>95889904
It really is a cheat code. Speaking of, thoughts on this black recipe?

>>95890036
comes off as more grey, almost unpainted plastic looking
try hitting it with a black wash or watered down black contrast to bring it down

>>95890036
wouldnt mind making a looted version of this for ork warbikes. does that eagle on the front have to be glued on?

>>95889984
>>95889971
I had my issues with the old codex artist they had in the previous editions but all the new covers are just so boring. Washed out, and full of a bunch of empty space that doesn't add to or emphasize the focal point of the piece.
It's just a weird solid color tertiery color. It's like WTF were they thinking?? they saw those pieces of shit and decided they were acceptable.

how do you manage to make this chapter >>95889999
look so boring and wimpy?

Whoever did the art for Darktide's talent tree should be given a shot at the codexes. It's weird they even use the same artist for multipe books. they should delegate each codex cover to an artist whose skills compliment the faction aesthetic. It's like >>95889984
and >>95889971 were batch painted in a week and the artist cut corners so he could attend the local protest with his wife's autistic son Tyron Jr. Didn't Kopinski beat cancer? Get his ass back in the studio making artwork before it comes back, God forbid.

>>95890103
>weird solid color tertiery color.
*weird solid tertiary color

>>95890103
I actually wonder if the new BT one is AI genned.

whats the process of painting white over a black undercoat? screaming skull > corax white > titanium white?

>>95890131
AI isn't that capable yet
>>95890141
I don't use citadel paints but yeah basically, you want to start with a light grey because they're gonna give you a smoother base faster to build up your brighter white on

>>95889984
That cover illustration was made by Mark Holmes. >>95889971 has poorer res, but I believe the illustration was made by Mikhail Savier. Not the same person in any case.

>>95890131
Human stupidity came up with that helm shape and the way bowlcut bro is holding his gun, AI would have done better.

>>95887673
>reeks of furry shit
In over 500 replies no one has even dignified this with a response until me, does that not tell you something about how retarded you sound?

In the end, I just the whole book...

>>95890141
screaming skull covers like garbage over black, I wouldn't start from there unless you have an airbrush

anybody got name suggestions for my homebrewe space marine chapter?

>>95890141
corax white is unironically great. duncan and Juan hidalgo both endorse it and neither of them are on GW's teet. I have it as well and it also covers like magic, but it still seperates badly in the pot. It's like scooping peanute butter out of the pot but just add a little water and you're good. Paint that over black or start with a darker grey if you like, but corax white will get you like 90% of the way there.

>>95890155
i probably shouldve done that in hindsight, guess i was going for a more warm look but i shouldve used something like basalt grey (AK) or something lighter

>>95890265
yep i regret it, just one more coat bro its going to be fine i swear bro

>>95890103
Even 8th Edition Codex:Space Marines didnt look so uninspired.

>>95888280
Dark eldar are jobbers. The only time they are allowed to win is when the reddit writer wants to be edgy and torture some human, craftworlder, or tau.

They lose to everyone else

Bring back Mole Mortars, they are stupid, make no sense whatsoever and therefore awesome.

>>95888775
100 boyz, a few leaders, and maybe a transport

with all the nostalgia baiting it is certain that necron phylactery will come back, but how will it be called to avoid antiasuryanism? also destroyer lord was the only one to ever have it in form of scarab on his arm instead of a saturn cube on his forehead.

>>95889681
>5 vehicles
Is it 1 repex 1 repulsor vindicator 1 ballistus 1 reaper

>>95890435
It's stupid right up until someone invents them to get around all manner of defensive systems designed to shoot down ballistic projectiles.

>>95890435
>Bring back Mole Mortars
Votann already did

>>95890256
>french
ew. I hope you kept the receipt.

Thoughts on Captain Uriel Ventris?

>>95889971
Yeah, it's such garbage.

Are there any cool chaos warbands that are chaos undivided? Looking to make a small chaos force + one each of the cult stuff if I can.

>>95890507
It's ok, the app hasn't been translated yet

>>95890507
ffs anon. Have some fem-stodes because you'll probably irrationally hate that too.

Dead thread

>>95890242
No I’m just part of the silent majority.

>>95890520
The best answer is always to make your own, but if you still wanna do one of the canon ones, here's a big list.

>>95890555
We have to go back to the Glory Days.

>>95890550
>irrationally

>>95890242
Honestly the first time I read that comment I thought it was total schizo babble, but looking again at the helmet, he's kind of right, it's disturbing. We know there are unironic furfags working in the GW sculpting department given the shit coming out for AoS.

>>95890550
>frog
>femstodes
>irrationally
I believe the word describing this phenomena is called "poterie" in frogistan

>>95890491
Kinda weird they only gave the gun to one unit so far, and it's the squishy melee unit at that. Still though, mole guns are cool.
>tfw I've been waiting for over a week for my berserks to come in the mail

>>95890550
SEXOOO

>>95890550
I still don't like fighting them.

>>95890550
What I hope the femstodes will look like.
But honestly, it's going to be a single bare female head on just one sprue of whatever their next kit is.
And GW is going to paint it wrong like usual that no one will even know.

>>95890638
>GW is going to paint it wrong like usual that no one will even know
What do you mean?

Drukhari renaissance imminently, I can sense it.

>>95890631
that "cutting" motion makes no fucking sense.
What kind of dumbass made this?

>>95890520
Plenty
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chaos_Space_Marine_Legions_and_Warbands_(List)
Use the Allegiance sorting option

>>95890652
____ ______

>>95890647
GW painting team can't paint female faces well. Go look at female models GW has made in recent years. Most of their faces look awful due to the paint job.

>>95890631
How does that even work?

>>95890638
>will look like
They're soft-retconning it already, you're not even getting female Custodes

>>95890550
BIGGER

>>95890679
>They're soft-retconning it already
No they aren't tourist

>>95890631
That's so fucking retarded.

>>95890638
Yeah, that is true.
And it is very likely that we are gonna get an updated custodes kit when HH 3.0 releases.
We've already seen that one picture of a Guardian Spear, which is a new sculpt.
Though, that begs the question if the spear is for generic custodes, or is it for a named character.

>>95890687
>tourist
Love how you newfags always immediately project and out yourselves with this.

>>95890673
He's doing spinny.

>>95890631
that's not how axes work

>>95890695
>n-no u
lmao every time with you people
not to mention unironically trying to call someone a newfag

>>95890696
Bro, the line of shit coming out of the axe needs to come from BEHIND the arc of the bladed end

>>95890703
Don't forget to call him a nomodels now

>>95890679
>They're soft-retconning it already
In what fucking way?
The 10th edition codex didn't leave anything up to interpertation, cut and dry about Kesh being a female custodes. And then we had Tyrith, different female custodes btw, appear in the Tithe episode.

And beyond that we haven't had any news about custodes or regarding them.
That's where the custodes "lore" or whatever you want to call it is at right now.

>>95890648
Drukhari? More like poopoopeepee

Michaeljordan.gif

>>95890703
Which global campaign was first?
How many Warlord variants were in AdTitan?
What's the first Outlander gang in ORB?
Post your 3rd ed or earlier codexes with timestamps.

>>95890673
360 and walk away

Anybody here tried proacryl’s black wash? How is it compared to gw washes and marine juice mixes?
Lgs stocks proacryl paints now.

Would it be weird to do Polish Custodes?

>>95890713
This was typed by seething elven fingers built for gripping my cock

>>95890703
>>95890721
>10 minutes no reply
Yeah I didn't think so faggot.

>>95890723
Maybe you should learn to make your existing washes work the way you want instead of buying more

>>95890713
Drukhari? More like Dark Eldar

>>95890713
Jordan is a meanie

>>95890786
You have nomodels, you're just making asspulls about femstodes and lashing out because noone fell for it.

>>95890806
>can't answer any of the questions, or post codexes, or post models of his own
>thinks his opinions matter
Lol

>>95890712
Anon do you understand what soft-retconning means?
>The 10th edition codex didn't leave anything up to interpertation
This is literally where the fem custodes shit started, how could they retcon it in the same book?
>And then we had Tyrith, different female custodes btw, appear in the Tithe episode
You realize it takes them over a year to animate that shit, all that work had been done before the decision was made.
>And beyond that we haven't had any news about custodes or regarding them.
They got delayed from HH3.0 for some reason, almost like some kind of decision was made by executives that's causing them to scramble to change some things they no longer want to show and they're not going to hard retcon it either, it's just going to be quietly forgotten.

>>95890838
>They got delayed from HH3.0 for some reason
Custodes? Where are you getting this news even?
This whole shit you're saying just amounts
>bro, just trust me

>>95890855
>Custodes? Where are you getting this news even?
Directly from GW, did you watch the reveal stream for Saturnine? Of course not, you don't actually play, you're just a tourist culture warrior.

>>95890861
>did you watch the reveal stream for Saturnine?
No, because I don't give a shit about Horus Heresy

>>95890811
I'm not even that anon. You just made up some nonsense and are throwing a fit that people called you retarded for it. Every post calling you out for it you made another additional asspull and deflection by claiming they are a newfag and therefore don't know about.... femstodes? The thing that happened like 2 years ago? And now you're jumping up and down trying to catch everyone's attention because noone is falling for your bait. Everyone here knows you eat corn the long way

>>95890789
My marine juice wash works. It is a brown wash. I just am looking for a black wash for things like gunmetal and steel colors.

>>95890855
Just ignore him, he's going to keep making schizo claims based on his delusions and then will just lash out at you when ask him to provide any form of source

Are breachers still a thing in space marine chapters in 42nd millenium or they were ditched after Horus Heresy?

>>95890861
>did you watch the reveal stream for Saturnine?
Nta but no. I was working when it was streaming.
Time stamps to back up what you said and your points please? There should be an archival somewhere.

>>95890838
>almost like some kind of decision was made by executives that's causing them to scramble to change some things
Or you are coming up with stuff that you personally like and want to happen.
>they're not going to hard retcon it either
Ok, so the thing would just be a nothing burger then because female custodes are still 100% canon in the setting anyway.

>>95890897
Ditched, it’s just be some company vets with storm shields now, presumably they do use them in some capacity but not as a designated breacher squad or anything.

>>95890871
>and are throwing a fit
More projection from a retard posting long angry paragraphs, I just calmly asked you a few questions and you can't answer them. Tourist.

>>95889846
Very appropriate for the Black Templars.

>>95890897
breeches are outlawed in the 41st millennium, they're one of the few warcrimes recognised by the imperium

only radical inquisitors, eccentric rogue traders and the perfidious eldar dare to wield them

>>95890897
Nope, but bladeguards have shields and swords so close enough. Only guys with guns and shields are agents jabronis

>>95890917
>>95890934
>no, only things with TRADEMARKED TOURNAMENT OFFICIAL UNIT BOXED KIT PRODUCT are in existence in the vast, diverse 40k universe!
Holy shit I hate newfag cucks.

>>95890929
Soul response.

>>95890918
Read the first sentence again and get back to me shitstirrer. Nobody is biting today

>>95890946
No one believes you retard.
>yeah the other guy conveniently vanished after being asked questions he can't answer and I'm just taking over with the exact same seething, angry tone
Lol

Anybody got a pdf link for Crusade: Armageddon?

>>95890943
trying too hard

Custodes could do with a fisting.

>>95890953
No.

>>95890952
>everyone I dislike is the same person and I can identify them with 100% accuracy
A tale as old as time

>>95890943
Dunno why you’re flipping out,‘I’m still gonna get some and build them as a custom boarding squad for killteam, but the shields will be just for looks. Maybe take a nap and come back when you’re not as grumpy old man.

>>95890955
Nothing is being tried, if anything is trying too hard it's that post you just made, because you've seen other people post those words before and think that's the response you're supposed to make to things you don't understand. NPC behavior.

>>95890943
>>95890929
>>95890917
Shame. I hope they find their way to chaos space marine codex somehow at least. Would be a great addition to Iron Wariorrs armies.

>>95890861
>you're just a tourist culture warrior.
projection

>>95890435
They'll probably show up in a Votann release six years from now.

Despite the range only being half-finished, Votann releases for tenth will be a single new character. (Looks to be a Beserk champion judging by today's sneak peak.)

Just a heads up, all this schizo shitstirring right now is someone trying to push the thread to page 8 so they can throod

>>95890968
Because the people replying saying "no those don't exist" are total lorelets, the things that exist in the setting are not limited to plastic kits with tournamenta-approved codex entries, and this should be obvious to anyone who isn't super new.

>>95891001
Actual paranoid schizophrenia

>>95891001
That's not how this works at all
We're already at bump limit, posting in this thread a fuckton won't make it go down in pages any faster

>>95891003
You definitely need a nap. You can come play with the other children again after you calm down.

>>95884614
Kill Team eventually. Once they add enough of Xeno teams they will make Space Dogs of War as an equivalent of Imperial Agents. All Kroot units will be usable in them as well. Second Kroot wave with smaller and bigger Knarlocs could even accompany it
Exodites will be turned into a proper faction sooner or later

>>95891018
Doesn't it hurt your soul to stoop to this kind of pathetic woman behavior, anon? Trying to tone police people on an anonymous imageboard with this sort of gay, female-coded, limp-wristed attitude?

>>95891001
How new are you

>>95891040
Go back

>>95891021
We can only hope and pray GW will be that based. Where's the art from?

>>95891040
Not really, you are acting like a child, would you prefer pointless autistic rage screeching like an abusive drunk father?

>>95891049
I understand you've had those words said to you many, many times in the past, but it doesn't work that way, you can't just throw that phrase at people who make you uncomfortable because you're an anxious little limp faggot. I act like someone who belongs here, you don't. That's the difference.

>>95891057
You sound like an actual faggot right now anon, maybe reddit is more your speed

>>95891060
>>95891061
Uh oh tourist melty

>>95891061
Doubt it. Someone’s gotta make sure you don’t hurt yourself in all your tantruming.

>>95891067
>giving away he's still the same fag, still butthurt
Kek

>>95891050
Nictanova I think

>>95891073
Uh oh schizo melty

>>95891003
Just stick the shields to your marines if it's this big of a problem. Nobody uses breachers anymore in 42k. There is no art of space marine breachers in the year 42k. There are no fluff mentions of breachers in 42k. A person isn't a lorelet for telling you that there is zero evidence that breachers are used in 42k. If you don't like the answer then just ignore it for /yourdudes/

>>95891079
Nice try retard lmao

>>95887664 (OP)
Just realized my army painter pin vise is missing the 2 extra collets (drill bit holder). Would another collet fit the pin vise just fine, or do I need the army painter ones?

>>95891061
There, there, anon. We can continue this conversation after you calm down.

>>95891082
Hey bud notice how there are several posts under the timer all replying to you
Funny how that works

>>95891082
You're gonna hurt yourself thinking this hard

>>95891085
I just buy a pin drill set and record the numbers of what the drill bits are.

>>95891081
>There is no art of space marine breachers in the year 42k. There are no fluff mentions of breachers in 42k.
Gee, I wonder why there's no art or lore mentions in the time period after GW drove out all the good writers and artists and replaced them with sad wagecucks who aren't allowed to stray from exact copyrightable depictions of kits approved by three levels of executive micromanaging.

>>95891095
The specific thingies that collapses and holds the bits is what I'm talking about.

>>95891090
>>95891093
>pulled out his phone at his PC to do this little stunt, screwed up the timing and said "several posts" as the first one
Holy SAD

>>95890658
>look at undivided warbands
>99% of them have identical schemes to their parent legion
Wow I thought successor chapters were bland but this is just sad.

>>95891111
Lexicanum makes shit up all the time from lack of data and so can you.

>>95891110
Anon, you need to calm down a bit.

>>95889971
Yeah not even a contest which is better. The earlier one was dog shit too, still struggling to proportion a s space marine years later. Can't understand the gorget and the actual head is the size of a large orange within that tiny helmet.

Are there any good prints for sisters of silence

>>95891120
Anon I understand you're trying to come off as the calm one while you're seething with impotent effeminate rage at your keyboard and projecting hard as fuck but all I'm doing at this point is laughing at you

>>95889971
What's up with this bit?

>>95891110
>Ignoring the third post so he could cope some more
Lol

>>95891124
The left one in that pic is still leagues better than the new one, but of course nothing is going to hold a candle to John Blanche's work of love.

You know he specifically requested to do BTs for that piece because he wanted Space Marines in black armour and was tired of all the colorful 2nd edition Blood Angels stuff they kept asking him to do? He put extra passion and care into that piece because he wanted to reclaim the dark atmosphere for 40k from the overly colorful middlehammer aesthetic of 2nd ed and it become one of the most iconic ones of all time.

>>95891109
I’m not sure what you mean. I’ll admit I am tired at the moment.

>>95891124
>The earlier one was dog shit too, still struggling to proportion a s space marine years later.
It is kind of funny how primaris are more well proportioned on the models but artists have the hardest time with them, while firstborn were always easier to depict because they were always inconsistent and it would work.

Reminder to ignore the low effort shitstirring
Also
We frigpostan, we frenspostan

>>95891144
>third post
There are only two replying to that post you dumbass, and that reply chain was single replies going back multiple posts.

It seems you are samefagging so obviously that you are mixing up a totally different reply chain not connected there. Interesting!

>>95891124
Imo, the problem with the codex covers is more about style.
Like even on that Blanche image the perspective is bit all over the place, like look at the marine with the skull pauldrons and the combi-flamer which is spewing fire from the bolter barrel as well.

Honestly, if the codex cover on the left was exactly the same as now, but Blanche was the one to draw/paint it, then people would be fawning over it.
Like the picture on the left isn't bad from a technical perspective and does look cool, but it feels bland and too sterile.

>>95891142
Mediocre artist.

>>95891160
three posts laughing at your tantrum in under a minute
>>95891088
>>95891090
>>95891093
next cope?

>>95891129
>effeminate rage
I get that you have AGP, but you don't need to project it.

>>95891149
I still love his Voxcast episode(insane it's unlisted but still findable) where he just draws the entire time with some commentary. Crazy seeing the process and how he thinks about things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJjtjNvzWlc

>>95891160
Schizo-kun...

>>95891160
Just ignore him, he's been making asspulls and shitstirring all morning. Must be first day of summer vacation or something

>>95891142
Space marine with a nun-gown.
It's a female marine.