Fem-marines would actually be received incredibly well if the attraction that femarch and other buff lady non-game threads on /tg/ get are anything to go by.

safe horny

You missed the general.

>>95920315
bump, nothing you can do about it pussy

>Mentally ill gooning freaks would like...!
We need to execute all gooners.

>>95920438
You wouldn't have a hobby prudeface...

>>95920293 (OP)
Femarch threads were not received well because if I recall correctly the artist (not the OG rule63 artist) was found out to be a "tranny."

Anyways don't wait for GW to give what you want. There's lots of third party sources and STL sources for marine sized female heads.

>>95920293 (OP)
They'd have to be attractive, we got a femstodes and the only thing that happened was some troons liked it, and the reactionist fags cried woke for a week before moving on to the next thing to cry about.

>>95920315
/tg/ is the 40k board

>>95920638
If another game dethrones 40k in popularity does this board become that game's board?

>>95920293 (OP)
Primaris marines already raped more harder than femmarines ever could, and they were made for the same audience.

Here's your female space someone bro

fem-marines and brothers of battle

>>95920293 (OP)
>Fem-marines would actually be received incredibly well
Hahahahahaha no.

>>95920645
Yes, but that will never happen

>>95920293 (OP)
Wokeness already peaked and is going into decline. Generational decline, like your next chance for wokeness to take root will be after Gen Z dies out. The closest you could get was female Custodes and it will probably be quietly walked back without any future mention.

>>95920293 (OP)
How would you even introduce fem-marines/femstodes narrative-wise? By having Fabius Bile make a more efficient way of creating chaos space marines?

>>95920862
I literally learned of Flash Gordon from browsing these threads and apparently it was a global success that is now irrelevant. If you genuinely believe that some franchises are too big to fall into obscurity then you're horribly wrong.

you missed the general little buddy!

>>95920879
You are comparing apples to oranges. 40k has near total monopoly on the medium it inhabits. Tabletop games aren't comics.

>>95920903
>You are comparing apples to oranges
Not really. Both of them are media franchises. One faded into obscurity with the passage of time and the other is a sleeping giant that is now waking up. That giant being 40k.
>40k has near total monopoly on the medium it inhabits
Indeed it does.
>tabletop games aren't comics.
I agree.
It doesn't change that no franchise is too big to fall into obscurity if horribly mismanaged or just shit happens or just the passage of time ensures all things come to an end.

>>95920878
>the only way to make female marines is to have an unambiguously evil, deranged, balding freakazoid mad scientist who is called "butcher" and "manflayer" do horrific daemonic experiments to mutate and pervert something pure and holy into something monstrous and unnatural
The allegory is so spot on.

>>95920910
Okay, you're right anon, in another 50 years when the entire world has changed and most of us are dead and this board no longer exists, 40k will probably have faded into obscurity by then.

>>95920712
Eh, I prefer manjaw mctranny, she had the brick body with slight curves to differentiate.

>>95920927
That was what I was getting at. Assuming this website is somehow still around by then.
But I'm glad that you acknowledged the logical fallacy of saying this place is a 40k board.

I still haven't seen concrete evidence that this board was made solely for 40k stuff.

>>95920929
That looks so ugly and retarded. Women aren't meant to be brick shithouse warriors, they just look like freaks.

>>95920315
>>95920887
Lurk more.

>>95920947
Space marines are freaks, why do you think some of the bolter bitches barely tolerate them?

>>95920879
There are so many previously massive and suddenly dead franchises that it's stunning that people would think it couldn't happen in their lifetime. Look at stuff like tarzan, or charlie chan. 49 movies. No one under the age of fifty has any idea who that guy is.

>>95920293 (OP)
>if the attraction that femarch and other buff lady non-game threads on /tg/ get are anything to go by.
Big if, everytime it is asked, only 30% of people wants FSM

>>95920293 (OP)
>>95921087

>>95921098
Anyone even passingly familiar with statistics will tell you that a simple size of 274 is way too small to be representative.

>>95921065
>>95920879
>>95920862
>>95920645
>>95920638
>40k is so big and popular that it can be freely posted outside of it's general
>But were 40k to fall from grace the non-general posting would stop or at least be heavily reduced
>The only way to do that is to make it bland and indistinguishable from any other sci-fi slop.

>Revelation so high IQ it must have been divinely given: we need more 40k female marines and custodes to make 40k so unbelievably shit that people stop caring about it, it falls to irrelevancy and it's posters stop venturing out of the fucking general.

Anons.....we need more female space Marines. 40k must die.

>>95920878
Not the Anon , but that is a good question. Usually gw just leans on unreliable narration to say its always been a thing(or at least has been a thing for the past few millennia), and thats arguably even necessary if you want a new thing to suddenly be disseminated setting/galaxy wide. This part of why primaris was such a leap of bad writing all that new kit and fully grown soldiers being suddenly pulled out of cawl's considerable ass and flung to the reaches of known space is to much of a leap for a lot of people, so if GW learns from this I doubt they'd pull another cawl/bile asspull. But at the same time they can't just say that femmarines have always been a thing because unlike femstodes and femwarriors GW put's out to much recent lore reinforcing the idea that only boys are made into space marines.

I suppose they could reveal that it was always technically possible, and that the boys only policy is just tradition/imperial politics. Meaning most mainstream chapters, and any chapter founded after the age of apostacy remain a boys only club because the Ministorum would raise a stink, but any chaos warband, renagade, frontier, and odd ball second founding chapter (probably iron hands/white scars) can be as co-ed as the black library author wants them to be.

None of this matters though its not gonna happen cause now there is to much money to be made raging about popular IP's online so the slightest change would be buried under a mountain of patreon shilling.

>>95921087
Personally I have no problem with femmarines in an of themselves, but they're always pushed by the "GW has to" "it's time for GW to" crowd who wants it solely as a way to put their ideological mark on a fantasy setting, and not from people enjoying the hobby and the setting who actually thinks it would be cool. So in the current environment, I'm against it.

>>95920873
This guy has the Cope Mind Virus

>>95921128
If you have studied statistics you will know that you can have very accurate results with only 40 data points if (and very big IF) the sample is representative, which I doubt from those surveys.

>>95921156
> chat i'm a contrarian fag

>>95920293 (OP)
You would need to make them hot, not Nguba the manfaced, bald, 50 year old black karen you meet at Walmart. And you KNOW femmarines will be purposefully ugly as sin

People hold fanart to a different standard than official products.

>>95920293 (OP)
I want GW to introduce fem marines because the coping, seething and dilating om /tg/ would be glorious. Most 40kiddies would probably off themselves, healing the wargaming market.

Between SoB, SoS and fully gender integrated Imperial forces (guard, navy, arbites, etc) what need is there for girl marines?

>>95921378
I believe that the point of desiring femmarines is that SM are the protagonists. The poster boys, around whom 90% of 40k content revolves. All of the factions that you mentioned are barely relevant.

Also, marines are very diverse. Space vampires, space furries, space mongols... meanwhile, SOB are always space catholic. There's way more potential for self-expression when it comes to marines than with SOB/SOS. This technically doesn't apply to the guard, but modern 40kiddies don't know that there are more regiments than the Cadians, Catachans and Krieg.

>>95921278
Have you seen r/primarchgfs?
I get second hand embarrassment knowing that place exists.

>>95921427
40kfags are so gay, they get unreasonably angry whenever they see a woman. Really though, just how gay is the Horus Heresy? It's basically a 9v9 gachimuchi wrestling match.

>>95920293 (OP)
If you want to play an army of women wearing power armour just play sisters of battle, what's the issue?

I'm bored.
Is there anybody who genuinely wants female marines here?
If so then why?
And why haven't you just taken third party heads or 3D printed STL heads and made them yourself?

>>95920605
A week? Are you having a chuckle, mate? And no, some people posting pinups doesn't mean there's wide support for girlmarines.

space combat person

>>95921443
>they get unreasonably angry whenever they see a woman
Way to poison the well there, chief.
That anger is mostly because they have seen how sci-fi media has been mistreated from Star Wars to Star Trek to Doctor Who, and 40k fans are passionate about not wanting 40k to go the way those franchises went. Lore states that females can't be marines, and I think Sisters of Battle are a tongue in cheek workaround in that regard. So 40k fans will see female space marines are tourists trying to water down a franchise they care about.
But its easier to just say they all hate women and leave it at that I guess.

>>95920879
>I literally learned of Flash Gordon from browsing these threads and apparently it was a global success that is now irrelevant.
But... Gordan's ALIVE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmrHTdXgK4

>>95921149
>Anons.....we need more female space Marines. 40k must die.
But what if James fucks it up and gives us a good game with a legion of badass Samus Arans?

>>95921482
>Is there anybody who genuinely wants female marines here?
I mean I would if 40k tabletop wasn't such predatory shit; You can't create your own flavorful unique units in that hellscape!

>>95921557
>I mean I would if 40k tabletop wasn't such predatory shit
The entire industry is predatory in nature. Don't feel too bad if you want to consume even if by just recasts.
>You can't create your own flavorful unique units in that hellscape!
Stat wise you'd be correct.
No good reason you can't just buy something like the Anvil Industry Daughters of The Burning Rose heads and stick them on marine bodies. They seem specifically designed with that in mind.

>>95920315
based
>captcha: kappy
based

>>95920929
>that's BATTLE SISTER!

>>95921595
>No good reason you can't just buy something like the Anvil Industry Daughters of The Burning Rose heads and stick them on marine bodies. They seem specifically designed with that in mind.
Sure but:
>Stat wise you'd be correct.
The stats are shit!
That's the predatory part; Rules that constantly fluctuate to push plastic!
If I'm going to do all the work of physically manifesting the models I want, why should I shackle them to a system that's a nigh incomprehensible and unbalanced mess?!

That's why I love Battletech and Brikwars (2010), because those systems are built around being able to design your own shit and integrate it.

>>95921402
All it would take to diversify SoB is the will to do so. Daughters of the Omnissaiah, Swordmaids of the Allfather, Psyker-Sisters, Some kind of Legion of the Damned style warp-bound Sisters.
That's just off the top of my head.

>>95921648
I'll admit I've long since stopped caring about the rules as I've been hammered with the "rules are temporary, models are forever" rule so I just pick up models I like.

>That's why I love Battletech and Brikwars (2010)
>Brikwars (2010)
You aight anon. You a good lad.

I'll admit I'm still surprised that none of the investors seem to be trying to get GW to make an edition with the longevity of DnD 5e with homebrewing built around it. It might be more profitable in the long run.

>>95921648
Battletech sucks, especially from a models perspective. No one who cares about wargaming from a hobbyist perspective is choosing battletech, surely.

>>95921651
It is sad how much Sisters get shafted when it comes to James sparing any creative energy...

Here’s my view: why not as this point? Current GW can no longer make a good game and the hobby is dying from exploding prices (why increase production when you can just jack up the price) so who cares? At least they can feed the popular anti-woke algorithm and get more publicity. What are "we" even protecting? GW no longer makes good stories or compelling fluff. They’ve already did female Custodes so the creators are desperate to signal their cultural allegiance — why stop them? "Listen you woke faggot fucks do NOT be woke in front of us!" They’re woke, it’s already over. Why cling to something that’s no longer in our hands? Why can’t we just let it go and leave 40k with just our memories intact and leave it to death just like AAA gaming industry?

>>95921741
>Why can't we just let it go and leave 40k
Good question anon, why can't you?

>>95921557
>But what if James fucks it up and gives us a good game with a legion of badass Samus Arans?
>What if the big corporation who goes woke actually decides to make something good this time?
>It didn't all the other times.
>Maybe something nice would happen? Real corporate woke pandering has never been tried.

Why can't you just stick to your fanfiction and stop being a doctrinaire faggot?

>>95921741
Why should I pretend I want this when I really don’t, anon?

>>95921758
For literally the same reason why WoW is still the most popular MMORPG — the industry doesn’t have the talent to make anything better. Basically, the competency crisis. Current GW are low-talent hacks standing on the shoulders of giants — but no one else has that kind of platform to work off of, so THEIR low-talent hacks just flop miserably when they try to copy 40k, just as all the competence crisis game devs failed at cloning WoW — attempting to copy something else was BECAUSE they are talentless to begin with, so obviously the copy will fail for that reason.

>>95921087
To be fair, that data is probably tainted from Majorkill's audience all being raging homosexuals.

>>95921741
Good point Anon, we need Fem marines to punish 40k paypiggies

>>95921671
>so I just pick up models I like
Sure, but I'm not really into painting, so along with the assembly that part of the hobby just doesn't appeal to me.

>It might be more profitable in the long run.
This is exactly why it wouldn't happen; Corpos always choose short term profit over sustainability!

>>95921679
>No one who cares about wargaming from a hobbyist perspective is choosing battletech, surely.
It's more popular than Warhammer at my FLGS.
Sure, part of that is Alpha Strike, but the group will do Classic 3/4ths of the time.

And what's wrong with a Hex and Chit that's Giant Stompy Robots?

>>95921778
Hey I'm just saying Monkey's Paw might be in effect.

>>95921873
>Basically, the competency crisis.
This is why I specified Brikwars (2010) over the published rules.
Mike didn't want to lean on the dozens of math autists prostrating themselves at his feet to hammer out crunch, so all he really has is his iconic artwork...

...Except Lego now OWNS his style, so he had to Mega Blok up his style, leading to a $40 hardcover book that just tells you to "do whatever" and has uglier art.

>>95921651
At that point you might as well just add Fem-marines.

>>95921741
Fem Marines are artistically antithetical to the established setting and tone, true. However, neither GW, nor Black Library, nor the majority of paypigs you would find at your local hobby store care about this given all the other cuts delivered to the quivering slab of meat that used to be a cash cow. I also am content to admit it is dead, and has been dead for decades now. Perhaps you'd gain some peace from accepting this as well.

Female space marines would kill 40k, and that's a good thing.

>>95922065
>established setting and tone
>tone
Sisters of Battle go against the established tone too then.

>>95922088
Okay sure. Remove them too. And women from the guard. Howling Banshees can stay though. Pleasure doing business with you, you're a really agreeable guy!

>>95922088
No they don’t. They were what talented old developers came up with when asked to make “female space marines” which instead of just making new SMs fleshed out a major faction of the Imperium and filled it in with a interesting and unique battle force that fit in with the tone. Fanatical, violent battle nuns who run off of pure dogma and belief in the skull ruler. Pipe-organ tanks, crucifix mechs, winged angels, etc. Nu-GW devs could never make something like the SoB, they would literally just put boobs on an Astartes and screech about how totally valid and powerful they are, maybe make one defeat Abbadon in a duel and take over, etc. Think that sounds ridiculous? They just unironically put in female Custodes and didn’t even bother with an explanation, they’re just a thing now, too bad Chud.

>>95922065
Dead for decades? You mean since 2005, 1995, or 1985? I'd love to hear more of your specific insight on what exactly happened the moment GW hit an iceberg.
>>95922167
The difference is that sisters of battle are actually cool though.

>>95922021
>Sure, but I'm not really into painting, so along with the assembly that part of the hobby just doesn't appeal to me.
>i'm not a consumer of the products people like, but please change it to suit me you'll totally get my money promise
Anon please tell me you're trolling. Or if you're not just admit you like destroying things people like. Please be honest for once instead of deceptive.

>>95922382
>The difference is that sisters of battle are actually cool though.
Anon presented it as a gotcha, I am willing to break a few eggs to make an omelette. I don't negotiate with terrorists, drone strike them and their hostage. It's a tragedy but what can you do!

>>95920293 (OP)
I thought israel was getting bombed, posting from the shelter between molestations eh?

>>95922446
Lol. I can't argue with that.

>>95922065
How exactly would a fem marine break the "tone" ?

>>95922193
>Think that sounds ridiculous?
Yes.
Even fem Custodes are not presented like that.
fem marines would likely just be dropped in without an explanation too.

>>95922523
don't reply to this guy he's just trying to get you to engage in pilpul

>>95920438
>We need to execute all puritans
FTFY. Gooners support freedom of expression. Puritans are subhuman authoritarians who want to censor anything that offends their delicate sensibilities.

>>95922569
OY VEY SUCH AN ARTIST SUCH A SCHOLAR A TEACHER ACTUALLY HE'S THE EPITOME OF WISDOM

>>95920873
>Women doing anything other than being broodslaves who cook and clean = woke
You had better be working until you collapse to do your role as a male then. Men are the hunters after all. If you aren't making 7 figures you're failing at being a tradmale.

>>95922551
I thought we called it sealioning?

>>95922424
I'm sorry Anon, but that is why I stick to 40k's greater fiction instead of bothering with the Tabletop.
I dipped my toes into playing the tabletop virtually back when 7th was on the way out, and even then was disappointed that the gimmick I built my fluffy Artillery Screen/Bait Penal Legion wasn't technically supported by the rules for Artillery targeting (You couldn't purposefully target your own units) and that was BEFORE they removed the fucking Pie plates!
Add gluing and painting models on top of a clunky, fluctuating ruleset, there wasn't any point picking up another source of Plastic Crack that I'd get so little out of for the work put in.

Still, why can't Khorne be a woman?
The franchise motto is literally "FORGE YOUR OWN NARRATIVE" anyways, so why can't I have my crazy headcannon?

>>95922035
> SoB are too uniform we need Femmarines
> here's some ideas to give SoB range
> If you add range might as-well do Femmarines

Well get fucked then.

>>95922691
Classic blunder of offering reasonable compromise when they don't want your solutions, they want THEIR solution.

>>95922685
>we

>>95920293 (OP)
Bolters canonically fire caseless ammunition. Every piece of artwork that shows spent shells being ejected is incorrect.

>>95922685
We are dealing with JIDF operatives here.

>>95922867
>pilpul
>masturbation addiction
>inversion of the natural order
Checks out

>>95922867
Pretty sure the JIDF offshores their 4chan astroturfing and thread sliding to India don't they? At least they do on Twitter.

>>95922891
BLOODY BASTARD BITCH DELETE THIS POST NOW SAR

>>95920293 (OP)
They aren't anything to go by. The vast majority of the whales keeping GW delusional about their general popularity aren't 4chan coomers.

>>95922569
>>95920450
Agreed, I should spam my very specific fetishes and if you tell me to stop, YOU ARE EVIL.

>>95922849
>Bolters canonically fire caseless ammunition
No they do not. Where did you got this from?

>>95922688
>I'm sorry Anon, but that is why I stick to 40k's greater fiction instead of bothering with the Tabletop.
Just stop anon.
It is okay to accept that something isn't for you instead of demanding it change to suit you at the expense of others.

>>95923068
Hey if I was trying to force things to suit me, they'd have colored plastic, mono-posed, one piece troop builders!

The fiction can be whatever the fuck you want it to be, like Slaaneshi double heretics fighting to stabilize the Imperium Nihilus, because what actually matters is (YOU) doing stuff with YOUR DUDES!

>>95920293 (OP)
Considering we took femcustodes very well by just saying "muscle mommy BASED!!!" and seeing just how hot it was that they were dominant over male marines, I think we're finally ready for femarines

>>95923105
You've already admitted to being the type of annoyance that finds a thing, and instead of moving on if something just isn't for you, you demand it change to suite your taste, potentially monkeypawing and/or compromising what made the thing special in the first place.
I'm trying to be nice here. But lot that demand female space marines practically follow this same tried and tired script every time.
Since you don't seem into painting miniatures, I don't think that the entire miniature painting hobby is for you as well. There's nothing wrong with that.

>>95923130
Yes, but at the same time your miniature painting isn't the entirety of the hobby.
Models don't spring from nothing, there has to be some kind of creative drive behind them.
Sure, being an "idea guy" isn't a substantial contribution to the hobby, but neither is yet another semi-decently painted Ultramarine's First Company.

In Brikwars we had a pretty good rule for this, "Everyone is the boss of their own toys."
I can't affect your models and their lore unless you let me, same as you can't stop me from dreaming up Giga Stacy Super Soldiers glamming their way across a Battlefield in the 41st Millennium.

As other Anons have pointed out, there are options out there if I wanted to realize my Fem-marines as miniatures, but the game being the mess that it is I don't really want to bother.
Still doesn't make my story crafting any less a part of the hobby than your model craft.

>>95922947
Yes, that's what freedom of expression means. Fuck censorship in all its forms.

>>95920293 (OP)
You misunderstand fun concept with practical want. People like them because it’s interesting but it wouldn’t actually hold up in universe since it would require a bunch of asspull shit to get down.

>>95923296
>but it wouldn’t actually hold up in universe since it would require a bunch of asspull shit to get down
...I mean after Primaris?

>>95923312
Primaris are basically just upgraded normal marines. Same basic concept but betterer it’s something a kid would think up. Space Marine Space Marines. There is already a fine counter part with the bolter bitches.

>>95920293 (OP)
fem-marines doesn't work, because marines are supercharged with hypertestosterone roids.
you'd just have really buff ftm trannies.

Think of the running joke/american media stereotype about russian women being very large, strong, masculine and named Olga because the soviets had their entire cast of 1980 women's olympic athletes doping.
It'd be that x100. Femarines would not only still be physically inferior to traditional marines, but they'd be deep voiced, acne-covered, thick beards and full body hairy, they'd probably be balding, guevedoces tier "clitorises", frequent ovarian cysts.

A teehee sexy fem-marine is biologically impractical if not even impossible. We know the process to make a marine. It's basically a gender transition to DLC gender: Man++, plus grafting some shdowrun bioware implants. They'd be hard to distinguish from the lowest performing male ones, tbqh, with nothing to show for the tradeoff, only additional major health complications because a female body is even less biologically suited to transition to Man++ than a man is.

If anything, you should try inventing a distaff counterpart that's Woman++.

>>95920293 (OP)
I am all for femarines because after all the Marine stuff that happens to them, they basically become men. So you have women that are basically men that also take away from the factions of women such as the Sisters of Battle. It's women erasure at its finest

>>95923347
Except that, you know, the female counterpart hormones to androgens/anabolic steroids have an entirely different effect in the body, completely unsuited towards any form of combat benefit.

The female body already has times it ramps up its female hormones, it's called estrous and pregnancy. If you hyper-estrogen/progestogen instead of hyper-androgen, for presumably the purpose of putting that estrogen to use because why else enhance it, what you get is basically a very neurotic queen termite but human, or to stay in genre, Axolotl Tank without the lobotomy. Given how much 40K likes to homage Dune, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the secret to Vitae Wombs, mirrored but darker by the Daemonculaba.

>>95923347
Except you just use warp magic to get what you FEEL you should get instead of what you would ACTUALLY get, and I FEEL that fem-marines would still look like women. Feelings take precedence over facts.

>>95920293 (OP)
Femstodes make sense because lore is ephemeral and each is a singular handcrafted genetic work of art.
Femstartes are mass produced slop by comparison, the equivalent of an aftermarket you slap in and around a car.
What I'm saying is that if there are femstartes they are likely now trans-masc because their gender has just become Space Marine.
This pisses off both sides of the argument so I think it's the best course of action.

>>95923471
getting warp magic involved in gender transitions is a good way to become a Slaneeshi cultist.

Actually, okay slaneeshi chaos fem-marines is totally viable. Make all of those you want i'm fine with that.

>>95923491
It’s weird how all of this shit ends up linking right back to chaos. Like the femstodes immediately became a meme as being a tzeetchian plot. And James didn’t help by saying “oh yeah they have always been there, you just didn’t know”

>>95923517
>trannies are demonic degenerates
in other news the sky is blue and the pope is catholic, more at 11.

How well are custodes selling? They give off a lame feeling nowdays

>>95923582
They've always been lame

Banana jannies are several tiers more elite than Marines and they're already explicitly male and female.

>>95923329
>There is already a fine counter part with the bolter bitches.
So when do we get Primaris Sororita?

>>95923471
>I FEEL that fem-marines would still look like women. Feelings take precedence over facts.
This is the crux of the issue.
"Basically just another marine" Femarines are something you can already do.
You could proxy existing marines with obviously Female Marines, but James heavily discourages using non-James products (and the rules suck).

>>95923529
The Emperor also bargained with Chaos to make his Primarchs...

>>95923329
>THANKS FOR THE INPUT THERE, STEVE

>>95923109
fucking hell kill yourself

>>95920450
>I may have gone too far in a few places

>>95920450
the mouse is one thing, but the snitties are fucking hilarious

>>95923109
if it's about dominance, they should be futa and regularly dick-pegging the other marines right in their girly little prostates every night.

it's the only option.

>>95923730
>The Emperor also bargained with Chaos to make his Primarchs...
Eh, show me a Catholic Cardinal that hasn't participated in demonic pagan rites, and I'll show you an Eastern Orthodox Patriarch.

>>95924377
It's not just snitties, it's a goddamn snitties transformation sequence.

>>95920293 (OP)
No. You coomers should be garroted with barbed wire

>>95924542
>t.impotent

People who push for femmarines will never actually buy any models, end of the day thats all GeeDubs cares about. Did any model get sold.

Also I know James doesnt give a flying fuck about the lore seeing as apparently saturnine Terminator armour and dreadnoughts were being handed out by Vulkan to everyone just before Istvaan 5 but if that was the case where the fuck was it mentioned before its reveal 20 years ago or however long ago the book that has the events of Istvaan 5 occur got released.

Female Space Marines would be a massive bridge too far, primaris are barely tolerated by most people. Biles new men will more then likely all be destroyed at some point or the project will be on a never ending hiatus much like the Ynnari plotline. Also screw that plot point from storm of iron about a woman being trapped inside a chaos marines armour that shit made stupid people (mostly from twitter) think it was a female iron warrior.

>>95924556
There are few things more impotent than a gooner. You pathetic nigger.

>>95924377
>>95924501
>it's a goddamn snitties transformation sequence.
Can we expect any less from the man who gave us Ass Machine Guns?

>>95924425
And if Angels can fall, can not a Demon rise?

>>95924572
>Biles new men will more then likely all be destroyed at some point or the project will be on a never ending hiatus
Hasn't Bile had the new men shit brewing in the background for decades now?
Like, Slaanesh keeps stealing his prized New Daugtheru, so he tips his fedora extra hard?

>>95920293 (OP)
i would assume that after all the gene manipulations and steroids and bionic augments that female space marines would be visually indistinguishable from male ones, especially in armor

>>95924713
I think its been brewing for a while but lets be real its either going to be a meh pay off or its going to go on hiatus. Alternatively just doesn't go anywhere like the end of the NL omnibus where they still have yet to go beat up Ulthwe.

>>95924732
Depends on what you are going for:
Robust Brick Shithouse can work, but even that can call proportions into question, and again you just get the same marine body with maybe a prettier face.

I'd go in the Gracile direction, with longer, lanker limbs for speed and reach as that also better highlights feminine curves, but the scale freaks would spurge out even harder if Femarines were 12 feet to the Primaris' 8.

>>95924744
>Alternatively just doesn't go anywhere
Honestly that's probably the BEST option; How much of the Horus Heresy ended up underwhelming because the hype could never meet the expectation?

>>95921149
I'm glad you agree that adding female space marines would destroy 40k and that it's pushed by people who actively hate the franchise and want to see it ruined.

>>95923517
It's because Chaos is subversive by nature, and all this "add female X to 40k" is part of a subversive agenda being pushed IRL, and people naturally pick up on this and compare the two even if it's not done consciously. Woke people literally act like Chaos cultists.

>>95924981
Chuds act like they are part of the Imperium!
Somehow, neither side would be insulted by these comparisons I don't think.

>>95920293 (OP)
No. Fuck off. Musclegirl fags are just that, faggots, and 90% of the faggots here are just pretending because they think it's funny.

>>95920645
No, because nothing will ever change that this board was born from Warhammer Wednesday.

I'm a nomodels lorelet but could they work by being visibly muscular and powerful but still feminine, Gina Carano style? Or would doing SM stuff require them to be shapeless, genderless musclehulks? If so they would only appeal to the tranny crowd, actual women like their game characters to be clearly female, sexualized even (there was a study on this, if it was bullshit then I apologize for being a retard)

>>95920293 (OP)
>Anyone who brings the idea of Fem-Astartes is not a real fan.
>they are an astroturfing grifter shill
>GATEKEEP
>GATEKEEP
>GATEKEEP

>>95920293 (OP)
If you really want fem marines why not just customize your models with women heads and 3d print boob armor. It might be a cool idea for an army.

>>95925577
Having fem marines at all is insanely lorebreaking, having them look female is doubly so because of the sheer amount of hypermale hormones and steroids and surgical shit the marines go through to become superhuman.

>>95920303
This
Kill yourself OP, if I want to enjoy femarines, I'll enjoy them in small doses in their own area. I don't want you fags making it canon so you can go on in public about it.

>>95925875
>hypermale hormones and steroids and surgical shit the marines go through to become superhuman
Buddy, Space Marines can eat brains to look though memories, do not try to play the biological realism card here.

>>95925900
You're doing the meme, retard.

>>95925900
You clearly don't even care about the setting
You're just here to advocate for the destruction of something people love

>>95926144
Nowhere near comparable.
Marines can also change their skin color.

>>95920293 (OP)
WE DO HAVE FEMALE SPACE MARINE, IT CALLED A SISTER OF BATTLE, YA FUCKING STUPID CUNT!

If GW decides to make female space marine a thing, then it would make SoB cease to exist in sale wise.

>>95921033
Serious lorelet question: why do some of the bolter bitches barely tolerate them? The Emperor fashioned the Astartes, and the hype by the time the bolter bitches are a thing is that he did it all himself (I'm sure the HH books make the Emperor a peripheral figure at best and the Primarchs and Astartes are really made by some girlboss).

Along the same lines, how are the bolter bitches taking Rowboat Girlyman being back? You know, since he's a son of the Emperor and all. Are they accepting, or are they all being wicked stepmothers (I may have the lore wrong but I have the vague notion the Sororitas are brides of the Emperor)?

>>95921402
But the Custardes got femoids, and they're super duper marines so shouldn't you be happy with that, trannoid? The ultra super duper golden marines are trannoids just like you!

>>95926305
>Nowhere near comparable.
>Marines can also change their skin color.
Yeah, Warhammer 40k bio-bullshit isn't even consistent with itself, see the Tyranids and Nurgle and nobody knowing which is better at germ warfare... and Nurgle's shit can be PRAYED AWAY!

>>95926323
See I'm all for the Sisters getting more toys, but weren't flamers nerfed pretty hard by the removal of Templates?

>>95926364
>>95926323
Chuddies need some reading comprehension classes.

SOB and femstodes can't replace fem marines because they are very one note. They always have the same theme, while Marines can have a million different styles to them

>>95926356
Fellow lorelet, so I might have some stuff wrong.

>how are the bolter bitches taking Rowboat Girlyman being back?
I remember reading that he held Saint Katherine in custody and had some guardsmen keep her there and the sisters killed all the guardsmen because they didn't think it was right to imprison a living saint and girlyman should just recognize her holy powers. I think it's a bigger issue of how he takes to them, being that he's pretty mistrusting of zealots, since that's not what the Emperor wanted and it just looks a bunch like an empire of mini Lorgars to him.

>brides of the Emperor
To my understanding, they were brides of the Emperor when Goge Vandire found them and turned them into his personal guard/warriors. Before that they called themselves Daughters of the Emperor and when they realized Vandire was lying and killed him, they went back to being Daughters of the Emperor.

>>95920873
Nah. You are just starting to love wokeness as new normal. But tis true about future generations. In 20-30 years both chuds like you and libs like me will be conservative boomers that are aghast at Gen-Beta for trying to give pets voting rights.

>>95920873
I thought bioifem-marines were inherently anti-woke because (((they))) want to replace everything feminine with trannies?
Or was that narrative retconned?

>>95926563
The Living Saint's name is Celestine, Katarinya Greyfax is a puritan Inquisitor often accompanying her.

>>95926626
Who can tell anymore man, "Culture Warriors" gonna "Culture War"...

>>95926641
Knew I had something wrong. That's what I get for reading lore from a reddit thread instead of the actual books.

>>95926532
This guy knows.
Space Marines, especially after the Horus Heresy, don't have an identity. They're the beginner faction, whatever you want them to be, as long as it's buff and fits in power armour.
Anyone who can look me in the eye and tell me that there's a Chapter which can convincingly imitate other Space Marines and even humans, and that nobody can tell their Primarch apart from a regular Marine, but that you could never transform a woman into a Marine, is bullshitting on some level.
An entire Chapter of Roman statue beautiful motherfuckers as opposed to horse-faced roid-freaks? And yet you couldn't possibly have a feminine-looking female SM? Bullshit.
A Chapter known for Batman shenanigans, infiltrating high population density urban areas and operating without dedicated technical support for their massive fusion-powered walking tank power armour? And yet pumping a woman full of hormones is too silly? Fuck off m8.
Space Marines don't have an identity any more, that's for other armies.

Why the fuck do people even want female space marines to be a thing?

>>95926750
The only bullshit here is pretending that Space Marines haven't been male roided muscle freaks and their daddy issues for nearly 40 years across all the official media featuring them. And saying that they don't have a stroing identity is more bullshit. Everyone recognizes marines instantly, and copycats and even other 40k factions suffer for trying to be them but doing it badly (like Votann)

Because you suffer of disphoria and need of validation about still liking an extremely male-coded faction, you want feminize Marines to not feel bad about it. That's it. Everything else is just hypocrisy and denial.

>>95926750
>"Space Marines don't have an identity any more"
Meanwhile in reality everyone pointed at pic related when it was introduced and said "that's a marine!" instantly after he was introduced in Necromunda.

>>95926814
>The only bullshit here is pretending that Space Marines haven't been male roided muscle freaks and their daddy issues for nearly 40 years across all the official media featuring them. And saying that they don't have a stroing identity is more bullshit.
So what is their "identity" outside of being roided-out muscle freaks?

>>95926837
They're the no girls allowed clubhouse.

>>95926837
Being men, just like the SoB/SoS identity is NOT being men.

>>95926848
Are you saying you don't want giant Tomboys?

>>95926837
>what is their "identity"
Being trans, but not trannies

>>95926865

>>95926876
>Being trans, but not trannies
So elaborate on their giant ass dicks that don't work...

>>95926837
>So what is their "identity" outside of being roided-out muscle freaks?
Disposable asexual super soldiers
The disposable part is the reason why they can't and shouldn't be created from girls, because women aren't disposable.

>>95926892
>women aren't disposable.
In the Imperium?
A place where they have to hose down the lower Hives with Anaphrodisiacs so the whole thing doesn't burst from the sheer volume of dredges?!

>>95926883
>posting that old unnofficial fanfiction article from a non-GW publication again
how many times do we have to keep teaching you this lesson old man

>>95926902
Was that the case when the emperor created them and barely controlled Terra?
Is the whole imperium hive worlds? Is a hive world so stable that couldn't lose population?

>>95926908
As opposed to this semi-canonical entry in a GW publication?
>>95926865

>>95926923
Considering the Thunder Warriors had a limited lifespan and he made his Custodes from the children of defeated Nobles...
Possibly.

Also remember the Vat Grown Armies commanded by their Psychic Loli Mothers!

>>95926883
>elaborate on their giant ass dicks that don't work
It's easy, their dicks are just there to pee and to show that they're still men. Other than that, Astartes are pretty much eunuchs unable to feel sexual desire or romantic attraction. They don't exist to love or to raise families. They're child soldiers in the bodies of grown men, emotionally stunted on purpose beyond their brotherhood bonding and daddy issues.
Very, very few go beyond this, and usually are protagonists of stories so readers can have a connection to them

>>95926939
>Possibly.
Made me laugh, have a (You)

>>95926939
>As opposed to this semi-canonical entry in a GW publication?
Yes, that page from the RT rulebook, and published before your bs fanfiction, is a lot more relevant. Specially since SM and SoB have kept the same split since then.

>>95926870
No, I want tomboys that are short. If they're tall then they're just safe horny.

>>95926943
>Other than that, Astartes are pretty much eunuchs unable to feel sexual desire or romantic attraction.
So you can't do that with a genetic female... why?

>>95926973
BUT THE GAP MOE ANON!!!

Marine-esque female soldiers could be made by giving them better power armor that enhances strength and durability, and by giving them brain implants to help with reflexes n shit.

It's not that hard to do without breaking the lore, you kind of already have it with Tau battlesuits.

>>95926982
>>95926994
You can make up technobabble on top of the current technobabble to "explain" it. But it doesn't work because female marines break the fundamental conceit of marines being grimdark child supersoldiers. They were created on purpose to be different from the more inclusive "marines" in other fiction like Aliens or Starship Troopers or Halo or whatever.
They're the product of an oppressive quasi medieval society, so they're space warrior monks/knights, just like SoB are space warrior nuns. Both zealots dedicated to the Emperor first and foremost.
That's why the imperial guard doesn't have this split but they do. The inhumanity of Marines breaks when you add women to them.
It's like wanting a jewish SS division, ffs

>>95927027
Yeah, they dont understand the theme and the setting when they ask for FSM.

>>95926943
>Space marines are all cold unfeeling killing machines with no emotions, thoughts or opinions. Yes, most of the ones we hear and read about directly contradict this, but shut up I'm right.
Ok

you missed the general

>>95921557
>What if James gives us a good game?
There's plenty of good games out there that aren't made by James going absolutely unnoticed and unloved because people already only give James money.

>>95921128
The number of datapoints is much less relevant than the collection methodology. In this case, with people volunteering to respond after knowing the question you have a massive selection bias issue and it's meaningless.

>>95926973
>Short tomboys good tall tomboys bad
Short people are classified as abhumans.

>>95926814
There was a time, fifteen or maybe even ten years back, when I'd have agreed with you. Space Marines were and should be hypermasculine transhuman roidfreaks designed to murder everything that they get pointed at, held on a taut leash by hypnoindoctrination, gene-bred obedience to authority and thousands of years of tradition. Some of my favourite stuff was around the Cursed Founding and the implications that Space Marines are inherently just fucked; if you try to improve them or remove their flaws, something breaks in them immediately and the process goes haywire. The Lamenters originally were about the hubris of trying to remove the Blood Angels' flaw- if you try and stop the psychos being psychopathic, the universe itself will turn on you.
After the Horus Heresy novels and Primaris, that just ain't it any more. Space Marines nowadays can be compassionate, accomplished diplomats, masterful governors, they can be paragons of stealth in their fucking power armour, whatever 14 year old Timmy thinks is cool regardless of context. The transformation process can be improved and the improvements are now standard. It's all fucked. A woman getting Marine'd is minor compared to the shit that's already been changed.

>>95927133
emotionally stunted doesn't mean they got no emotions, thoughts or opinions.
>most of the ones we hear and read about directly contradict this
because they're an exception and constrast against the others, you dumb bitch.
Main marine characters are usually fringe guys in some way or another. And even then, they're still autistic killing machines.
That's also why for more than 20 years it has become a trope to pair human women with inhuman Astartes.

You'd knew this if you had actually read SM stories instead of wiki shit or GW's shallow marketing and codex propaganda about how they are.

>>95927251
>After the Horus Heresy novels and Primaris, that just ain't it any more.
Bullshit. 40k media was doing that before, like the Ventris books, and the HH/primaris have changed nothing about them besides exploring and adding more layers to the brother/daddy issues that define them.
> Space Marines were and should be hypermasculine transhuman roidfreaks designed to murder everything that they get pointed at, held on a taut leash by hypnoindoctrination, gene-bred obedience to authority and thousands of years of tradition
99.9% still are.
>Space Marines nowadays can be compassionate, accomplished diplomats, masterful governors, they can be paragons of stealth in their fucking power armour
they've always been able to do more than just killing, and those are usually the older or odd characters, not the regualr guys

>>95920293 (OP)
Sure. Why not. It’s not like danger hairs won’t screech when suddenly there’s a 10000% increase in female space marine rape rule 34 and “SQUAD BROKEN” jokes that are going to occur the moment you do so and flood r/sigmarxism, aka the only people actually seriously demanding this, making the bitchfests over this shit continue on for infinity. Or are we going to act like gee dubs is somehow going to put a halt on the internet’s collective horny energy?

>>95927321
Squad broken is a male coded meme so the femarines would need to be futas.

>>95927341
Or trans marines, which will surely go over even better than even fem spess merhens

>>95926982
>>95927240
I don't care. I literally don't care about any arguments or attempts at persuasion. Girls should be small, and they're cuter that way.

>>95927321
Don't forget GW would have to write that little girls will be abused in order to make space marines. They didn't care when it happened to little boys, because males are expendable.

>>95926305
>Marines can also change their skin color.
So can tons of creatures in the animal kingdom, that's not even remotely unbelievable, and it's also completely missing the point. You literally did the fucking meme.

"Fantasy elements that gel with the atmosphere and themes of 40k exist and you can allow suspension of disbelief for those, so why can't you allow jarring modern cultural bullshit forced into your game hurr durr?"

Fucking retard.

>>95927276
>40k media was doing that before, like the Ventris books, and the HH/primaris have changed nothing about them besides exploring and adding more layers to the brother/daddy issues that define them.
Maybe you weren't there in the 90s or early to mid 00s, and that's fine. Or maybe you haven't actually read through at least the majority of the HH novels, and that's fine too. It is not a matter of opinion though that there are now tacticool squads of sniper infiltrator Marines, Marines being successfully rengineered, and an entire Legion of Marines dedicated to James Bond spy or heist movie type shenanigans, and that these things were not true before.
You're right in that they've deepened Space Marines, but what they've also done is broadened them. You don't get to have modern day Alpha Legion running around the canon and still say that Space Marines have a strong identity.

>>95926532
>SOB and femstodes can't replace fem marines because they are very one note.
There's no lore reason they need to be this way. The reason they are this way is because there wasn't enough interest in them from the fans to flesh them out and vary them more. Because people don't want females in their autistic space man army game.

>>95927488
If you want to believe flanderisations of certain legions or chapters, that:s up to you, but alpha legion are still perfectly capable of shooting people with bolters and marching in formation if they so choose to.

>>95927139
lurk more

>>95926994
Why AREN'T there more unaugmented humans with power armor?

>>95921378
The point is that the wokies need to plant their flag in everything to demonstrate that their ideology has conquered yours. They inherited this attitude from their feminist predecessors, who have already been demanding female space marines for 30 years.

>>95927027
>But it doesn't work because female marines break the fundamental conceit of marines being grimdark child supersoldiers.
How would them being women break any of that?
>The inhumanity of Marines breaks when you add women to them.
How?

>>95922688
>Whorne, god of PMS
>Blood for the period throne

>>95927514
I'm happy with femstodes getting models, let Space Marines be bara.

>would you like to engage with one of our dozen armies with heavy female representation?
>no i want to ruin that guys all male army

femmarinefags should not be tolerated
its rooted in a toxic mindset

>>95927576
>dozen armies with heavy female representation?
You mean two.

>>95927580
You've got the tyranids (unfeeling, all-consuming parasites), and no one can tell what's male or female among the necrons or tau.

>>95927521
Kinda proving my point. Alpha Legion are Space Marines, massive walking tank dudes rapidfiring grenade shells to blow their enemies apart on the battlefield... and also, somehow, engaging in Oceans Eleven style plots on the regular. Whatever you want to happen, there's a Space Marine Legion or Chapter who will do exactly that while also being a Space Marine. There is literally nothing a modern day Space Marine cannot do, except of course be made out of a thirty-year-old man or a girl.
Anyhow, that's my rant, and a good day to you; I'm off to paint Stormtroopers.

>>95927580
its two armies that don't have females:
space marines and space marines (evil)
literally just play any other faction and you get girls, most of them even supported with unique models!!

the only outlier is admech, who have tons of female priests in media but no model for it, thats the sort of shit GW should be working on

I hope for fem marines become a thing. I really want warhammer to die.

>>95927540
Not him but you're a retard.

>>95927576
Exactly this.

No one asking for female marines actually wants it for a positive reason (adding something to the setting), it's all about taking something away from the real fans. It's entirely malicious.

>>95927580
Holy fucking shit femmarine supporters really are tourists.

>>95921378
There's no real need, it's all coming from mean-spirited freaks who just want to destroy 40k. There are zero good faith arguments for female space marines.

>noooooooo every other army in my game has females and it dosen't ruin them but it will totally ruin this army!!!!!!
Lol. Holy shit.

>>95920450
Oh gee, no, not the sanctity of anime and all the wit and brevity it's inspired...

>>95920438
First off, before you put me in the gas chamber, I would LIKE some Infinity tier waifu Space Marines with practical fashion sensibilities and rugged tomboy charm. I need to be able to write smut about them dying horribly but they better not have heels. However that is not the world we live in, I think everyone knows GW is incapable of sculpting some absolute fucking monstrosity. I know that the uproar about femstodes was mostly about the lore, the shitty attitude of GW towards its fans, and the terrible retcon, because nobody can tell the sexes apart once GW gouges some orifices into a lump of pewter and calls it a face.

>>95927702
if they suddenly decided sisters of battle should get 5 new kits of all males models and a be 50/50 gender split it would ruin them
>b-but males don't ruin other armies!!! what's the problem?!?!

>>95924963
Of course anon, anyone with eyes and an non coomer brain can see that obvious fact, the difference though is that you try to delay the inevitable in order to preserve your shitty fanpire while I, who am tired of all the evil sloppish soulless actions of said fanpire now actually wish for it to die.

You say /tg/ is le 40k board, but that's only because it's popular. It everyone grows sick of it and fails to see it as unique. It will no longer be popular.

NEXT TIME POST IN THE FUCKING GENERAL DIRTBAG!

>>95927753
Inquisitors, Inquisitor Lords, Inquisitorial Henchmen, male Priests, Assassinorum Operatives, and Inquisitorial Storm Troopers then?

>>95926305
>get injected with a whole bunch of extra organs
>the organs fuck with your melanin production, but only with 2-3 legions and it physically brings them in line with the genetic donor.

>>95923265
Imagine playing this game and not realizing Slaanesh is mocking you

>>95927753
Current and historical male models that can be fielded in a Sisters of Battle/Witch Hunters army (from the early 2000s) include but are not limited to Arco-Flagellants, Penitent Engines, Priests, Inquisitors and their Henchmen and Stormtroopers. Sisters of Battle armies and units including or being led by men is an old concept that any veteran 40K player would be familiar with.
Sisters of Battle are also a niche army with a highly specific aesthetic, unlike Space Marines who are designed for every single fourteen year old beginner to be able to make into whatever headcanon they like.

Faggots don't seem to have any problem having a custom chapter like "The Imperial Pride" which is rainbow flag armor space marines who are gay and have anal sex before and after every battle (for the Emperor) without making their chapter canon, so why can't fem marine fags also do this?

>>95927853
Having the freedom to do something isnt enough, they need the institution or group they are infesting to officially recognise and validate them as the special little faggots they are

>>95927661
Then help me understand how women "break the inhumanity of Marines."

>>95927875
And faggots (vanilla) don't need this same recognition and validation?

>>95927888
No, I dont need every hobby, interest and community im part of to fawn over how im such an amazing, special fucker because of who I want to put my dick inside. This may however be an alien concept to those who have built their life around such an identity.

>>95927853
Rainbow Marines are canon and Marines also reproduce by pumping their gene-seed inside drugged boys. Even the most raging homos already have all they want.

I have never in my life met an actual biological woman within the hobby space who would care about female Space Marines. None. Zero. Chicks like Xenos or Slaanesh. They not even that big into SoB.

>>95927837
well fem marines have no lore and 14 year old boys dont want them so glad we can agree its a shit idea

>>95921149
>it can be freely posted outside of it's general
point me to the rule that says that traditional games can only be posted inside a general please.

GW could trial run them as a faction of SoBs that have been Primaris'd. A heavy troop branch of the SoBs basically.
But we wouldn't get that. We will get Femmarines who have always been there who inexplicably have female features despite being the chemical freaks SM are. Which would be hilarious since their breasts would have to be the size of a Guardsman's torso if they're a visible feature. I wouldn't mind such mammaries in the canon.

with all the shit they do to create astartes wouldn't you just be turning women into men? I mean astartes are already sterile like at the end of the day if you create femstartes they should functionally just look like men.

>>95921149
Even if you're trolling i still want to see you skinned alive and tortured to death. Fucking tranny freak.

>>95928016
Trannies are the only "people" who want female Marines so they can pretend to be actual women that way.

>trannies are not part of the conversation at all.
>some anons can't help but bring them up.
Me thinks trannies are always close to your thoughts for some reason.

>>95926883
>current year of our lord
>still thinking this fanfiction is official in any way

>>95927702
Every other army always had lore that allowed it, and wasn't thematically and aesthetically based around the concept of all-male warrior monk brotherhoods, and most importantly, no one who wants to force females into space marines as a faction have good intentions about it, they literally want it BECAUSE they know it would ruin them, and you have multiple people admitting that in this very thread. You're not fooling anyone.

>>95927877
Humans have two genders. Marines only having one is part of what shows they are now inhuman mutants who can't reproduce normally.

>>95928016
This. All the girls I know who liked 40k were into stuff like Orks or Tyranids. I knew one Dark Angels female player and she didn't want any fucking women in her marines she liked them as bishie bara men.

>>95928731
>>trannies are not part of the conversation at all.
They are always the ones on twitter and other social media saying the same exact talking points being made by the femmarine side in this thread, you aren't fooling anybody you disingenuous fucking faggot.

Why is it that nobody has yet to provide any actual reason why female marines should even be a thing.

>>95929556
It should all boil down to using the existing testosterone in biological males since it would minimally reduce the total amount of augmentation required to make a marine. It's a slight improvement in efficiency in order to produce a stronger soldier.
>t. admech player

https://youtu.be/Q-f-5ZpGDmQ

>>95929556
Cause it’s all based on feelings, not anything substantive. Absolutely nothing ever stopped people from glueing Stormcast heads onto their space marine models if they ever truly wanted, or declaring their beakies girls under their helmets. It’s just the byproduct of anal retentive nerds saying girl marines aren’t a thing long enough that contrarians decided to say there should be just to spite the former.

>>95929556
Because there are none, all of their arguments are disingenuous bullshit, the goal of the people pushing female marines is literally just to piss the fans off and fuck up the franchise.

>>95929556
Trannies and retarded freaks like this >>95927813 cunt want them. No one else.

>>95929489
Custodes can't reproduce either.

>>95929556
Because they make me hard.

>>95929862
Custodes are also meant to be all-male and most people ignore the nu-lore.

>>95920303
Words can not express how much I hate zoomers and whatever LGBTQ SCUM invented bullshit like this

>>95920450
> Tranime founded by pervs for pervs

>>95920947
This is what a woman juiced up on hormones and gene shit to turn them into a super human would look like.
This is exactly what female space marines should look like.
> This isn't what I masterbate too!!!
Excellent you fucking freak also kill yourself

>>95926883
Do you see that "GDW" in the header, top left corner of your image? That's because Challenge magazine was published by Games Designers' Workshop, a completely different company unaffiliated with Games Workshop. It has about as much bearing on the canonicity of female Space Marines as Equestria at War.

>>95921087
> Majorkill is actually just a fucking GW shill and plant who will do and say whatever his master's say or what makes him the most money
What a stupid whore

>>95929922
>This is exactly what female space marines should look like.
Pic related is exactly what female space marines should look like.

>>95929934
That's not unique to Majorkill, you're describing every single one of them lol.

>>95929959
Except the aussie dude.

>>95927438
>Don't forget GW would have to write that little girls will be abused in order to make space marines.
Again, the Uxor of Geno Five-Two Chiliad, AKA Psychic Loli Commanders.

>>95927514
>The reason they are this way is because there wasn't enough interest in them from the fans to flesh them out and vary them more.
No, there is interest, but modern 40k doesn't want fan creativity.
Making your own units throws the WAAC Tourny faggots into a shittastic 'tism.

>>95927540
>How would them being women break any of that?
Exactly.

>>95927837
Not to mention that most of the Sisters Named Characters were male for a while...

>>95928444
>Which would be hilarious since their breasts would have to be the size of a Guardsman's torso if they're a visible feature. I wouldn't mind such mammaries in the canon.
Noice.

>>95929514
>he follows trannies online so much so he's memorized things they talk about.
Okay anon.

>>95920293 (OP)
The people who complain that the Church doesn't allow women to become priests won't start going to Mass if the stewards of the Church are retarded enough to allow women to become priests.

>>95920293 (OP)
Yeah but do you want GW to make them? They'd cost several kidneys and look like men.

>>95930187
>he thinks you have to follow these subhumans for their aggressive attention-whoring to show up in a timeline when they tag everything #warhammer and shit
Listen I respect the fact that you apparently don't go anywhere else on the internet but this site, but you're ignorant as fuck anon.

>>95930253
Based and truth nuked.

>>95930292
>umm no they invade my space and force me to interact with them... that's why I'm always talking about them!
Lol. Holy shit anon. Its almost like you are seeking them out.

>>95929890
So ignore fem-marines too then.

>>95930253
There are practicing Catholics who already do that.

>>95930333
You're probably a tranny yourself if you're this invested in trying to convince people that you freaks aren't always trying to force yourselves in everywhere and make everything about you all the fucking time. It's just a known fact at this point.

>>95930253
Anon....

>>95930336
>just let hateful spiteful people who aren't even fans of the setting destroy it
No, I don't think I will.

If GW was going to add female space marines they would have done it with Emperor's Children, and they didn't. It's obviously not happening.

>>95930342
Any "Catholic" defending such is practicing.heresy.

>>95930354
>Even when there are no trannies for anon to interact with he invents them.
Kek. Jesus wept man. Seek help.

>>95930359
That's the anglican church anon.

I just want big buff warrior chicks with big guns and you guys are going on rants about religion and transsexuals. What the fuck.

>>95930497
You already have Custodes for that. With the Eyes of the Emperor lore you can even have them running around without armor in your RPG campaigns. So let the smurfs be the sausagefest their players want.

>>95930390
They should be burned as heretics.
>>95930400
Shut the fuck up tranny scum. You will never beca woman.

>>95930497
Women can't be warriors/soldiers, shitting out babies is the one and only thing they're suited for.

>>95930497
So fucking play
>female catachan
>sisters of battle
>orks in drag
>slurp nulore and accept butchstodes
>a different game
And fuck off. Not or, and.

>>95920293 (OP)
Female primarchs are the way marinefags with brainrot from too much Horus Heresy cope with their obsession. Lusting after male primarchs is gay so they genderswap them.

>>95929751
>>95928707
>Tranny
I'm not a tranny. I'm a heterosexual man just like yourselves. Heck I used to be a fan and my army is still sitting in my closet.

No, I am asking for this because I hate 40k and 40k fans. They are a tumor on the board and on the Internet in general.

>>95930714
Orks in drag is always the best choice.

Why does /tg/ hate the idea of female space marines? Why does the sex of space marines matter?

>>95930497
They are not well Anon...

>>95930893
>Orks in drag is always the best choice.
They just need the right wig!

>>95920293 (OP)
>female body cannot withstand the process
>two failed legions

>>95930928

>>95930917
Why do just shit out your opinions in the form of questions without reading the thread?

>>95930889
>trust me guys, im a man
No man has to defend being a man.

>>95930917
If the sex of Space Marines doesn't matter, why get upset about them only being men?

>>95931188
Just seems a little unfair to limit it only to men.

>>95931184
Okay tranny.

>>95920450
>artists are degenerate

>>95931227
But it's a religious fraternity like monks, or sisterhood like SoB.
It's not unfair at all it's the lore.

>>95930497
You suffer from porn addiction.

>>95931227
What do you mean "unfair"? Actually, you're right. It IS unfair that only men have to fight and die for the benefit of others. Women aren't kept from fighting, they're ALLOWED to stay AWAY from fighting. Holy shit, what luck! They get to sit back and knit while men do all the hard work. Fuck me, right? Sounds great.

>>95926766
I cannot tell you the original reason why. I was young, I thought it would be cool to do it. It was just kind of a passing "oh wouldn't that be fun?" If it was a thing I could actually do, it'd probably fall onto the backburner - like the jetbike eldar list or collecting knights. A thing that could be fun to do some day.

However, what makes me want me now is the reaction from the worst god damn neckbeards I've ever met. Which was the mostly thinly veiled misogyny masquerading as giving a shit about the lore. Both in how they were presenting the lore, but also in how they spoke to me about it.

On that day, the switch was flipped. I no longer wanted them for their own sake. I wanted them because I want to see people like that suffer. All the other reasons are secondary.

Is this petty and shitty? Yeah. So what?

>>95931358
Spite is not a valid reason.
Post models.

>>95931227
Oh, you're one of *those* people.
Read >>95931327.

>>95931358
Nah. That's silly. I don't play SM at all, because I don't like them. My army has a decent mix of males and female. That said, I rather like that they have existing lore. Insisting that something is changed because some people you don't like latch onto something in a way you don't like isn't a very reasonable way to approach it.
Now, discussing what kind of psychology goes into why someone chooses to main Astartes might actually be a worthwhile conversation.

>>95931358
>Is this petty and shitty? Yeah. So what?
Is that supposed to be praiseworthy? Do you have so little self-worth that you hitch your opinions specifically in opposition to some nameless chode you've never met over a meaningless issue you have no investment in?

>>95920293 (OP)
Disgusting pooners
Your time is over

>>95931367
>Spite is not a valid reason.
Fuck you, yes it is.
>Post models.
Don't currently have anything worth showing off, just some unpainted eldar for kill team. Everything else is gone - either sold, given away, or in the case of one army lost in a move.

>>95931406
I wanted to make space marines when I was 13 and borrowing my brother's space wolves. However, closest I ever got was playing some chaos marines - specifically Iron Warriors because at the time they had some genuinely bullshit rules that let me have way too many fucking lascannons.

>Insisting that something is changed because some people you don't like latch onto something in a way you don't like isn't a very reasonable way to approach it.
When the fuck did I imply I was reasonable?

>>95931421
>Is that supposed to be praiseworthy?
No? Are you stupid? I'm not asking for your praise. I'm saying that I'm aware that my position is based largely on a petty grievance.

BUT
>some nameless chode you've never met
The interaction in question happened in person. These are not nameless chodes I've never met. These were people I saw semi-regularly.

>>95931438
Disgusting troon, die mad

>>95931358
Cringe.
People like you are a a cancer on any community, regardless of what your supposed politics or opinions are. Spiteful, petty little shits that want to ruin other people's fun out of some pathetic mental illness or resentment.

>>95931358
It sounds like you were gatekept lol

>>95931438
>Don't currently have anything worth showing off
You don't even participate in the hobby you're just looking to ruin it for others.
Spite isn't a valid reason to change established lore, world doesn't revolve around you.

>>95931358
>However, what makes me want me now is the reaction from the worst god damn neckbeards I've ever met. Which was the mostly thinly veiled misogyny masquerading as giving a shit about the lore. Both in how they were presenting the lore, but also in how they spoke to me about it.

>On that day, the switch was flipped. I no longer wanted them for their own sake. I wanted them because I want to see people like that suffer. All the other reasons are secondary.

>Is this petty and shitty? Yeah. So what?

>>95931438
>I'm not asking for your praise.
Sure acting like it

>I'm saying that I'm aware that my position is based largely on a petty grievance.
If your positions are based solely on a choleric temperament, you should reevaluate what kind of person you are, just saying.

>>95931438
> Don't currently have anything worth showing off, just some unpainted eldar for kill team
Oh, good, so you don't actually play.

>>95931442
>>95931469
This is one of those times where you get the right answer by accident.

>>95931443
My guy, I gotta ask you something. If your enjoyment of warhammer hinges on telling an at-the-time 14 year old "um actually you can't have girl marines because" then yeah, I want to ruin it for you. Why the fuck not?

>>95931447
>>95931455
>>95931483
I actively play warhammer. It's just that my shit's not painted.

>>95931470
Just reevaluated: the meltdown people had over women custodes was funny as hell, and it'd be way funnier to watch the same people have a meltdown over women marines.
I support the idea even more now.

>>95920293 (OP)
this but brothers of battle

>>95931358
>>95931438
I think l you genuinely need a proper hobby. Maybe try drawing?
You practically making it your goal to shit on what others like is immature and childish. I hope you properly change and grow.
I also hope you see reason to stop embarrassing yourself here. Your posts are the first ones I’ve seen that painted a sad picture behind the screen and made me feel sad for the poster behind it.

>>95931502
>This is one of those times where you get the right answer by accident.
There is only one demographic spiteful enough for shit like this, it wasn't an accident.
Post your unpainted models then, because I'm willing to bet your presence here is out of nothing but spite.

>>95931524
I have several hobbies. One of which is warhammer.

>>95931531
>There is only one demographic spiteful enough for shit like this
I'm glad you have accepted me as a white dude. Means a lot to me.

>>95931358
>However, what makes me want me now is the reaction from the worst god damn neckbeards I've ever met. Which was the mostly thinly veiled misogyny masquerading as giving a shit about the lore. Both in how they were presenting the lore, but also in how they spoke to me about it.
Baste!

>>95931502
>My guy, I gotta ask you something. If your enjoyment of warhammer hinges on telling an at-the-time 14 year old "um actually you can't have girl marines because" then yeah, I want to ruin it for you. Why the fuck not?

He was explaining the lore to you and instead of being grateful for the advice you malded about it way into adulthood like it was the most traumatic thing that ever happened to you in your life.
The more i deal with you people I actually become grateful I got my ass beaten as a child by my drunken stepdad on the regular.

>>95931548
I ofc meant a surgically mutilated troon who has nothing but spite left in his life, alone Infront of a monitor for the rest of his life.
Now post models I'm beginning to suspect you are not even involved in the hobby.

After every piece of media showing the non-spess mehreen IoM started to revolve around STRONG COMPETENT WOMEN, I knew the hobby was on its last legs. It is absolutely wild that almost every character brought up in books and video that isn't a SM is a hyper competent female or doofy/deferential male.

Women characters don't bother me at all, but when it becomes such an internal trope, it's hard not to notice.

On top of all that, how they moved the setting forward was incredibly retarded, I sort of hope they do female SM just to put that last nail in the coffin.

>>95931502
Glad to know that you're not only shallow but toxic too

>>95931358
Dial8

>>95931502
>right answer by accident
It's not accidental.

>>95931569
>He was explaining the lore to you and instead of being grateful for the advice
No, they weren't. They were, in fact, being weird shitheads. And given that you can't even correctly identify the number of the people in the conversation, I don't really think you're an authority on what happened.

>like it was the most traumatic thing that ever happened to you in your life.
Lot of assumptions being made here. Like hell man, this shit isn't even my most traumatic event playing warhammer, let alone my entire life.

>>95931587
>his
Thanks for not misgendering me anon. You're talking about surgical mutilation but like... the only surgery I've ever gotten is oral surgery to get wisdom teeth taken out. And that's pretty normal.

If you're talking about top and bottom surgery, haven't done them yet. Hell, I might not even bother with top surgery.

>Now post models I'm beginning to suspect you are not even involved in the hobby.
No. Because
1. You're going to find other ways to claim that I'm not "involved in the hobby."
2. Because it's making you upset that I'm not doing it and that brings me glee.

>>95931659
Aww shit. Really? I'm toxic? I've got a caustic personality? I'm kind of a dickhead? Amazing revelation anon. Got any more blisteringly obvious facts to lay out for us anon? Grass is typically green? Clouds are in the sky? Your dad doesn't love you? Your mom changes the subject when you come up?
Or are we done pointing out obvious shit?

>>95931710
Cool.
Now post models.

>>95931710
Your kind makes me sad. No one would hate you if you just didnt try to ruin everything all the time. Seek help, there's still time. You haven't done anything irreversible yet.

>>95931693
Swing and a miss.

>>95931703
And it was. Because you're the same kind of dipshit as the other guy I'm replying to.

>>95931710
>2. Because it's making you upset that I'm not doing it and that brings me glee.
This always was, always is, and always will be a copout. Oh, and YWNBAW

>>95931710
I'm just saying that the opinions of toxic individuals like you are worthless, even in a shitty thread like this on a place like 4chan, and maybe than being stuck in a perpetual teenager style victimhood you should probably find a hobby you actually enjoy. Cause frankly, you sound as pathetic as the losers you claim to laugh at who mald over fictional girls in grimdark toy simulator 40k. Get a real hobby, anon. One you enjoy on its own merits. Trust me, you'll be a far more complete person.

>>95931734
>kind of dipshit as the other guy I'm replying to.
One with basic perception?

>>95931710
>Your dad doesn't love you? Your mom changes the subject when you come up?
Holy movie theatre Batman this is some serious projection.
Get a real hobby that doesn’t involve trying to spite others and you’ll be a happier person and people you thought lost will come back to you.

>>95931722
Nah. I'm good.
Post a voicemail of your dad saying he's proud of you.

>>95931728
>No one would hate you if you just didnt try to ruin everything all the time.
Honestly? People don't seem to mind me. I don't get it, but hey.

>>95931744
>Oh, and YWNBAW
See, I know that. You know that. My dad knows that.
Now if only the government would see that and CHANGE MY GOD DAMN PASSPORT.

>>95931750
It baffles me that you can't seem to wrap your head around the idea of "I enjoy this game and the majority of people I play it with" and "there's a subsection of this hobby that I want to see have mental breakdowns because there are women marines."

But then again, you're not a complete person. If you were, you'd both be able to grasp that and also could comprehend the idea that a person can have multiple hobbies that they enjoy in different capacities.

>>95931761
See. That's the thing. You don't. And you know why I know you don't?
Because you're the exact same type of person as this idiot right over here at >>95931744? See him. The guy who posted YWNBAW?
This guy is an idiot.
Or maybe this guy over at >>95931587? The guy who's trying to throw "his" like getting my pronouns right are supposed to somehow offend me. Like, yeah, clear what you were going for but this is what happens when you're right one time by accident.
Or maybe your cohort over here >>95931693, the one telling me to "dial8." Which is only something you'd be doing if you were getting a vaginoplasty. Which, if you weren't a fucking dipshit, you could have maybe used the context clues to figure out is a surgery that I both do not want, and more over, do not need.'

You're stupid, and can't figure out shit from context clues.

>>95931710
>Thanks for not misgendering me anon.
I wonder how long it will take them to realize you are referring to your being born female?

>>95931904
Aww anon. You gave the game away. I was having fun.

>>95931914
Sorry... Roger.

>>95931886
>"I enjoy this game and the majority of people I play it with"
> "there's a subsection of this hobby that I want to see have mental breakdowns because there are women marines."
Thing is, I genuinely don't believe you. Cause otherwise you wouldn't give a shit about the latter category whatsoever. Those kind of people would mean far less than the people who you actually spend time with, but the fact they live rent-free in your head tells me you don't value the people you claim to as much as you say you do. In fact, I'd go so far as to say you actually can't live without thinking that you're somehow elevated above el chudderinos cause you don't care about the same things they do, when in fact you're lower than them cause you hitch your opinions specifically to theirs to define yourself.

That's why I don't believe you. You're not only shallow and toxic, but you're a lying sack of crap who has less individuality than the misogynists you claim to derive amusement from .

>>95931933
>Cause otherwise you wouldn't give a shit about the latter category whatsoever.
...Why do you give a shit what Anon gives a shit about?

>>95931886
Nah he's dead, but you can't post models because you are larping and have none.

>>95931965
It's a discussion board not a ignoring board.

>>95931886
Please detransition like I have anon. I was an ignorant asshole until one day I just woke up and realized this lifestyle is self destructive. It was painful but after giving it up I am much happier and old friends and family have come back.

>>95931974
See, Anon already explained he's being a petty, spiteful asshole.
As a spiteful asshole myself, I have to question why putting boobs on the wee imaginary solider man figurines matters so much to you?
Has this inquiry brought you any closer to actually painting your damn minis?

>>95931965
>>95931974
>>95931997
Cause even if I have a personal distaste for the concept of female space marines, I still think the opinions of people who actually find the notion of a transhuman hyper-roided girl to be their raison d'tere to be valid and worth presenting, cause they actually fucking WANT to have those kind of models. Meanwhile, I personally detest the kind of morons who act as though hating what others hate makes them any better than their haters. It's just pathetic. The latter need to be shoved through a wood chipper feet first Gaffadi style, as they make even stupid discussions like this exponentially worse just by existing.

>>95932015
>who act as though hating what others hate makes them any better than their haters
...Who was doing this?

>>95932053
My bad. I should have typed "enjoying what others hate. Mea culpa. But yeah, I've never gotten along with that type. Specifically cause I used to be that until I realized how disgusting it was to care this much about people who I legitimately dislike.

>>95932065
But what if they have their own legitimate reasons for liking it?

>>95931997
It's the same reasons Jedis can't be evil in the SW universe, it's set in the lore.
If you love star wars you wouldn't want to change the lore, same if you love Warhammer, you already established that you and the troon do this out of spite so your line of questioning is purely rhetorical and can't be considered worthy of a serious response.
You might think it comes from a hateful place but I think the hatred comes from you acting like retards then crying oppression when you get your answers.
It wouldn't be 40k without a dogmatic imperium and space marines are dogmatic fraternal orders in the setting, without it it wouldn't be 40k.

>>95932080
>It's the same reasons Jedis can't be evil in the SW universe, it's set in the lore.
The Sith started as a Jedi sect...

>>95932106
Yes but they never started out as evil.

>>95932079
Then they should be talking about those reasons, rather than talking about someone else's opinions. Like, I don't give a shit if you're in support of something to spite "the haters", I'm not presently talking to those fucks at all, am I?

>>95931933
You keep making these really hilarious leaps of logic. You've latched onto a single data point: that I think it would be fun to watch these people have meltdowns because their toys got new lore that no longer let's them being weird and shitty.

And if that's all it was I probably would have stopped giving a shit about warhammer a long time ago. Like I did with a bunch of other things I tried and didn't enjoy. I don't keep doing shit I don't enjoy out of spite.

But I like warhammer. I enjoy playing with the people ate my current game store. I enjoy the few chances I have to play some with my brother. I on some level enjoy seeing the horrible paint job my nephew has done to my old army.

But I'm also aware that I share this hobby with people who suck. And some of the lore enables them to suck in particular ways. And it was really funny to watch a bunch of them have meltdowns online.

So yeah. Female space marines would be vaguely cool I guess. But honestly I mainly want it because of a particular type of shitty guy I share this hobby with would crash out and that would be a fun thing to watch.

>>95931987
There's a problem with your suggestion anon.
I didn't "lose" anyone I actually care about. Honestly, no one I gave a shit about was lost to me when I started my transition. Like at worst my dad struggled with the new name but that was less a lack of support and more of a habit thing.


>>95932015
And let's circle back to this, Anon.
My interest in female space marines started as a vague "wouldn't this be fun?" A vague sentiment of something that would be cool to have. I don't have some deep reason. Maybe it was just an at-the-time affinity. Maybe it's that I had some vague ideas of something I could do with it. Hard to say, it was awhile ago, and it's based on vague sentimentality.

But my opinions were galvanized by unpleasant dickheads. And now it went from "that could be fun" to "that could be fun and also it would make shitty people mad."

>>95932115
I mean we did, but then people started shouting about how "That's WRONG!!!"

>>95932126
So why should you care? You already have no respect for their opinions, it shouldn't affect you. It doesn't bother me someone wants female space marines, nor that Gee Dubs is likely to kowtow to that type. They've made far stupider decisions to lore, and that's their right.

>>95932124
I'm just going to note that "But my opinions were galvanized by unpleasant dickheads" is the most genuine thing you've said in the sense that it's positive confirmation that you primarily form your opinions around what others say, positive or negative. And that is why I have zero respect for people like you talking about subjects like this. You don't care about "what's fun", you care about making others as bitter and lame as you.

>>95932147
>So why should you care?
Because every time I even hit at it, some asshole starts screaming how I'm an invading devil who should be thrown into a wood chipper, all due to not enjoying a frivolous pastime the exact same way they are.

>>95932169
Anon, I'm only going to speak for myself in that even if someone hates female space marines, literally nothing they do can stop you from making fan art or models of it unless they somehow get the balls to try and actually rip it out of your hands, but that's as likely as something of worth coming out of this thread. Liking something because you imagine it'll cause some dumb fucks pain is gay and lame, and this is coming from a fag. Like what you like for its own sake, even if it's putting boobs on beaky models. All the power to you there.

>>95932169
If you enjoyed the pastime, you wouldn't be trying to change foundational aspects of it.

>>95932080
>It's the same reasons Jedis can't be evil in the SW universe,
But they can and do, and always have.
If we're going off the original trilogy, Jedi can be evil because Darth Vader is an evil Jedi.
If we are going off the extended universe, dark jedi exist as a thing separate from things like the Sith or the Inquisitors (though Inquisitors are also just evil Jedi)

As for the rest: I enjoy warhammer the game. I enjoy some aspects of warhammer as a setting. But I also don't really give a shit about the "purity" of warhammer's lore. Mostly because, amongst other things, I've watched it change in front of my eyes. Canon is fake. It's a thing we made up.

And honestly? No. I think the more fitting things for the lore and the imperium is to roll out fem marines and then have it be hammered in that this was always the case. Don't decanonize the old lore that says marines could all be men. Have it exist in contrast with the fact that there are women marines. The imperial truth is what we say it is. Women can't be space marines? That sounds like heresy. You read it in the codex astartes? That sounds like it's a heretical corruption of the codex. You have been told what the truth is, and your questioning of it is suspicious.

>>95932147
I was upfront about why it turned from "passing thing I thought was cool" to "thing I actively want." Why are you acting like this is some big revelation?

But dude. I promise you. I don't care that much. It's a thing I want, sure, but also it's not something I truly give a shit about.

Like if you want something I ACTUALLY give a shit about? They're not "Aeldari." They're fucking Eldar. That's what they're called. Games Workshop made up bullshit term because they realized that "Eldar" was not a strong enough trademark and expect me just roll with that shit? Fuck off. Fuck "astra militarum", fuck "adeptus astartes", fuck "Drukhari", and once again, FUCK AELDARI. Imperial guard. Space Marines. Dark Eldar. Eldar. Fuck GW's branding.

>>95932202
>Like if you want something I ACTUALLY give a shit about? They're not "Aeldari." They're fucking Eldar.
See, that's the kind of opinion that actually matters in this world. Something that comes from a genuine honest passion, not some irony poisoned "lol lookit them seethe isn't that kewl" mentality. Nobody found it cute with the /pol/ types doing that with to "the sjws", and the reverse is just as true.

Notice how every single artwork of fem marines posted in this thread portrayed them as either cute anime girls or buxom semen demons.
Dude, we know how GW models female models nowadays. They're gonna look inbred and more like men than even Calgar. You're not gonna get the porn you're looking for... Actually, you already have tons of porn fanart, and printable big titted bodies, and green stuff/putty to model huge bazoongas and whatnot. Why do you need it to be official? It's not gonna change anything, it's just gonna fill the Marine range with ugly trannies like the Stormcast range from Shitmar.

>>95932187
>literally nothing they do can stop you from making fan art or models
Except I'm, at best, a fiction writer...

>>95932196
...And yeah, you have dipshits like this who think it's some GRAVE SIN to play with conventions that have already been reamed three or four times by the IP holders themselves.

So fuck it, my benevolent militant feminist Daemonettes wage an unending war on masculinity and violence unknowing of the Irony that their "Great Enemy" Khorne is themselves a Woman.

>>95932224
>Why do you need it to be official?
Mostly because the guys who NEED everything to be official are the WAACfaggots ruining the game in the first place.

>>95932230
>Except I'm, at best, a fiction writer...
So fucking do it. Who's stopping you? 4chan?

>>95932224
Or they go the even easier route of just claiming the girls were there all along, the helmets were just in the way. Like, it's really not going to make anything better, just make it disconcerting for everyone when dealing with guys who gleefully describe mowing down armies of female space marines and watching them die horrible deaths.

>>95932196
You're replying to a different anon, but I'll tell you why: I do not view the space marine being only men as a foundational aspect. I view it (correctly) as the end result of a bunch of decisions that were largely centered around production of physical miniatures. Gabys and Jayne didn't sell well. It was cheaper to make models that all presented entirely as male, and someone correctly assumed that their market of mostly nerdy teenage and young adult men in 80s Britain wouldn't be all that upset if their armies were all dudes.

You're taking a decision done to eek out a few extra cents on the models that got lore written to explain why your sprue only had dudes on it, and saying "this is a core of the setting." And like, dude, it's not. If you woke up tomorrow and female marines were canon, basically fuck all would change about the game.

>>95932212
You seem to not be able to wrap your head around the idea that "I think these would be a cool thing to have" and "this cool thing existing would make people upset" are thoughts that are not only not contradictory but in fact are complimentary.

>>95932224
>t's just gonna fill the Marine range with ugly trannies like the Stormcast range from Shitmar.
Hell yeah dude, give me those hideous monstrous butch space marines. Shit sounds awesome.

>>95932236
>Who's stopping you? 4chan?
That, my crippling writers block, and a general lack of outside interest.

>>95932256
>You seem to not be able to wrap your head around the idea that "I think these would be a cool thing to have" and "this cool thing existing would make people upset" are thoughts that are not only not contradictory but in fact are complimentary.
They're not. One comes from a positive mentality, the other is a toxic corrosive mentality. The fact you can't distinguish that is a very worrying sign.

>>95932262
Then you have no one to blame but yourself. And I don't mean that in a negative way, you know that you're the only real roadblock in terms of getting shit done, all you need to do is just fucking do it.

>>95932271
>all you need to do is just fucking do it.
No, I need someone to bounce things off of, "just fucking do it" resulted in the worse Smut text ever posted to this board.

>>95932281
Unless you wrote "Squad Broken", I doubt it's that bad.

> I need someone to bounce things off of
Get a friend, share your writings, let them get all the chuckles out of their system, and then go for it.

>>95932267
They're interlocking parts man. You can keep trying to break out the therapy speak but honestly - trying to act like there aren't parts of me that enjoy this kind of stuff would mean denying myself an honest look at myself and that'd way more damaging than "I enjoy the hypothetical thought of shitty people suffering emotional distress over a wargame no longer validating their shitty behavior."

>>95932271
Different anon but despite how it may seem creativity is not actually a solo endeavor. Writing shit that no one cares about or reads is not only kind of disheartening on its own, but also denies a very important part of the creative process - feedback.

>>95932309
Well, it takes guts to admit that you enjoy being a toxic disgusting individual, and I'll just hope that no human being makes the mistake of being more than mild acquaintances with you, cause you must be a fucking wreck to deal with on a daily basis

>>95932124
Oh, so calling you a tranny was correct and discarding your opinion to begin with was also correct.
41% yourself.

>>95932302
>Unless you wrote "Squad Broken", I doubt it's that bad.
IT'S WORSE!!!
https://pastebin.com/ycLR74kn
And the worse part?
THERE WAS STILL SOME ANON WHO LIKED IT!!!

>>95932309
>Writing shit that no one cares about or reads is not only kind of disheartening on its own, but also denies a very important part of the creative process - feedback.
Plus when you have writing impairment like Dysgraphia, it's outright exhausting!

>>95932361
Anon, I've legitimately read worse attempts at smut. Wrote worse attempts, come to think of it. Like, the best advice I've ever read was that "the best writers didn't hit gold their first time, they just practiced their writing day and night to get all their worst stories out of them". So yeah, I can't tell you what to do or not do, but all I can say is that the more you write overall, the better you get at it. So find a friend you like and see if they can help give you some insight into your writing.

>>95932399
Stop giving it attention. This is all just some narcissistic wank from a severely online individual that needs help.

So if you want female space marines I think it would be best if GW confirmed that one of the lost primarchs was a woman... Investigating fanarts about that I've noticed that most artists prefer to choose the primarch of the eleventh legion to be a woman.

>>95932743.
And I've also noticed a trend toward one of the two lost primarchs being raised by Eldar.
Which in itself isn't a problem, but it would be better if they were raised by a different or invented xeno race.

Sorry for getting off topic, but I have to ask a question. Can I post threads in Spanish on /tg/??
I know there are International and International/Random boards, but I doubt there are anyone interested there. In fact, I did some research, and the only thread I found in Spanish is 10 years old.

>>95932743
>>95932777
I think GW confirmed a long time ago in what little we are given from the HH books that the lost primarchs are men, but you never know. 40k lore is retcons on retcons.

>>95931227
It's a fictional universe retard, why should it be "fair"? What the fuck??

>>95932743
>So if you want female space marines
This thread has pretty well established that no one wants that except the worst pieces of human trash imaginable.

>>95933084
At least that individual was honest. The gaslighting from them is usually the worst part.

Which is a better reason to want female space marines, to own the chuds or to want James shares to go up (like they've done since femstodes were introduced)?

>>95933120
Yeah, all the lies about "representation" are annoying as hell. If they really wanted that, they would push for Sororitas or other factions to be more diverse and more in focus. No marinefags would complain about GW doing that.

But female marine apologists don't really care about "representation", they just hate men having fun alone in their little corner without them having a say. It's about and insecure and paranoid control freaks, or seething mean girl bullshit about not being the most popular gal at school.

Jesus fucking christ troons are insufferable attention whores

>>95934009
Take your meds, Anon. We are talking about girl (female) marines, not trannies.

>>95933644
>shares to go up (like they've done since femstodes were introduced)?
The shares have been increasing since 40K became mainstream after the pandemic, way before femstodes were even revealed.
Why do you feel the need to lie?

>>95934090
Nta but he was talking about (You), and he was right. Why are you troons so obssesed with meds? For the last time, we're not taking estrogen, no matter how much you insist.

>>95920712
>posts picture of a man
>here's your woman bro, they are literally biologically identical

Tranny logic, seethe and dilate.

>>95934107
From a shareholder point of view the effects of the pandemic were already baked in when femstodes came out and yet it didn't collapse. This proves that adding females is value and pandering to those who screech about them is pointless, they either are nogames living out their fandom in loretuber comment sections or /tg/ reddit or will keep buying the plastic regardless of female characters.

This is how you introduce female marines.
>Guilliman is worried about the recruiment speed of marines for Indomitus crusade
>Cawl identifies and fixes the issues that prevented the implants from working on women
>Done
They could also say there were always female marines and the previous lore was just misinformation or propaganda but it would be a bigger PR issue.

>>95934233
>this is how you destroy the appeal of the main 40k faction among your main customer base only to appease a bunch of terminally online retards
you didn't learn the lesson with the Last Jedi bs

>>95934359
40k fans that make money for James have invested too much into the hobby to quit because of lore changes, and that's assuming they would even care which is so far unproven. Far more than the cost of a movie ticket. That's also an opportunity to put more headswaps into marine kits, justifying increased prices.

>>95934368
Even in pure greed terms, there's nothing to gain, and everything to lose. Prices are going to be increased anyway, so the extra trouble is not needed.

It's time for the late 2010s redarded culture warriors to fucking die, you and the assholes in the other side are just social media parasites that do not add anything of value to the setting, or to the people who enjoy it for what it is.

>>95934394
>everything to lose
So far sales figures have conclusively proven that new kind of space marines sell and nothing makes a dent on their sales, not even shitty rules in a codex which is a much bigger deal to most players than female minis.

>>95930369
How would fem-marines destroy the setting?

>>95929489
Mechanicus tech-priests are also pretty fucking inhuman, and the most augmented ones can't reproduce normally either.
Actually, female marines likely couldn't reproduce normally either.

>>95934112
>no matter how much you insist
Nobody is insisting you should.

>>95934432
And custodes can't either.
Marines are created using implants grown in a lab, any child of a marine would not have these implants simply because they're implants.

>>95934406
Sisters of Battle are already the "female space marines" faction, and they seem to sell decently enough.
But you don't want "female marines", you want to erase the current space marines for the "sin" of being codified as male only to own the chuds or whatever terminally online bullshit you believe.
>>95934427
>faction about tragic grimdark space buff men and their brother/daddy issues rooted in all kind of classic stories
>defines the setting, main selling faction
>let's turn this into transient and shallow rainbow hair propaganda to appease terminally online culture warriors circa late 2010s
fuck that, and fuck you and your funkopops. You're as bad as the grifters in the other side

>>95920293 (OP)
Here's my female space marine.
>b-but the armor doesn't have boobs! She looks the same as the male space Marines!
Exactly. Now we can all move on.

>>95932399
>the more you write overall, the better you get at it
While you are not wrong, I defer back to my Dysgraphia making writing an exhausting process for me, and the fact that finding someone to dump this shit on is is an issue even for writers.

>>95932777
>raised by a different or invented xeno race.
Chozo.

>>95934483
>brother/daddy issues
So I think we've discovered the actual issue with the anti Femarine crowd...

>>95934705
There's no issue, it's a feature and the main attraction. You don't get it because you're a retarded autogynephilic coomer

>female marine thread
>a mentally ill trans shows up
>said mentally I’ll trans is bitter and angry and only finds “joy” in ruining things others enjoy for the sake of it
I’ve seen this pattern three times. Is this a clockwork thing?
Is our mentally ill trans just a poltard pretending to be one to make them look bad? Would be more embarrassing if it was legitimately one behind zirself.

>>95934774
Why should the hobby be shackled to your father's lack of love for you?

>>95934797
Why should the hobby be shackled to your lack of love for the body you were born with?

>>95934483
Sisters of Battle aren't female marines because they aren't augmented supersoldiers, they are baseline humans in power armor. They do not fill the same niche as space marines.

>>95934427
nta, but I just don't like female space marines the same way I don't like Primaris even if I accept they exist. It's the idea that is being promoted of the Space Marine form being some kind of a desired state for humanity, rather than a sidegrade into being a stronger tool for the Imperium that's essentially a non-human protecting the rest of humans from space. I always thought the idea that the process was flawed was the point, that it was never meant to be a permanent fixture of the Imperium that the Emps had in mind for his ideal empire, and that much like the Thunder Warriors the Space Marines would eventually all be shuffled off this mortal coil once the Eternal Crusade was over. It's why I find it distasteful that Gee Dubs is promoting the idea of an "improved, even more perfect Space Marine" (though I would get fluff-wise how much such a thing is desired) or that its ranks need to be expanded to include women. As though the Imperium should WANT to turn as many humans into Space Marines as possible, rather than it being a horrible inhumane practice that they feel must be done to ensure its continued survival like all the other horrible inhumane things they do.

But that's just me. I know that I have no voice that Gee Dubs would be open to anyways, and that if they wanted to make female space marines a thing, they'll do it anyways. But that doesn't mean I need to pretend to like it.

>>95934795
The mentally I’ll one is legitimate. Not a polfag larp. Wish it was because I see their behaviors in other places and I’m like “dog do you have any concept of public relations in not making your tribe look bad?”
Evidently these validators of bad stereotypes are legitimately just being themselves and that’s what makes it all so much more funny and tragic.

>>95934824
Wrong.
Being augmented supersoldiers has nothing to do with it. Sisters fill the same theme of a grimdark same gender military order of indoctrinated shock troops in power armour, with a lot of drama and tragedy mixed in. Pic related is exactly what (imperial) marines are and do, but with a gender swap.

You don't get it because you only see the shallow marketing and marines being the "protagonists". For you and the other liars this is about status, and fucking over your perceived online enemies, not it making any sense thematically or in universe.

>>95934813
The hobby is shackled to my immune system attacking my pancreas?

>>95934827
>It's the idea that is being promoted of the Space Marine form being some kind of a desired state for humanity, rather than a sidegrade into being a stronger tool for the Imperium that's essentially a non-human protecting the rest of humans from space. I always thought the idea that the process was flawed was the point
See, this is a good take, but it's undermined by Space Marines being the setting's Poster Boys.
Too many Anons have a cognitive dissonance of Astartes being tragic figures but also being their Power Fantasy.

>>95934359
>this is how you destroy the appeal of the main 40k faction
So like I think fem marines are a shit idea, but I have to ask, is no girls alowed really the main appeal of marines? )r is it more the brotherhood of warior monk thing? I don't play em (lifetime double nidder)so I wouldn't know.

>>95934893
It is more about making sure the hobby doesn’t get anymore mistreated like star wars and Star Trek and doctor who.

>>95934890
As an ork fanboy, while I still enjoy the beaky bois I always thought that their whole thing was trying to find meaning to the endless struggles they're forced to fight against through how tightly they hold onto concepts such as honor and brotherhood, and their struggle is being forced to gradually kill the emotional side of their humanity in the face of repeated betrayal and indignity lest they outright break and turn to chaos only to have their struggle for purpose invalidated even further by trading one eternal master for another. It's why I have no illusions about space marines being cool to watch tear shit up, but not something one should ever actually WANT to live like.

>>95934889
The very essence of marine lore is that they are superhuman and created through arduous process. Sisters are not superhuman and just went through a space sunday school, and their rules are those of normal humans with power armor. The sisters don't have any more tragedy mixed into their background than Guard stormtroopers (who also are recruited from Schola).
You don't know much about Warhammer lore do you?

>>95934890
>undermined by Space Marines being the setting's Poster Boys.
>Too many Anons have a cognitive dissonance of Astartes being tragic figures but also being their Power Fantasy.
The only cognitive dissonance here is yours and your inabilty to grasp that both things cannot be split, and being a feature of 40k since day 1.
It's not even something 40k invented, it's a classic trope of war stories from the fucking Illiad to Band of Brothers.

>>95934923
I mean that's 90% my reasoning the rest being that I hate the fact that they're moving away from one of the imperium's main themes of decay and collapse with the cobsistent adding of new tech

>>95934933
>The very essence of marine lore is that they are superhuman
wrong. That's your obssesion about not being the center of attention
>Sisters ... just went through a space sunday school
>You don't know much about Warhammer lore do you?
lol, the irony of talking shit while parroting the shallowest of wiki hot takes. In their actual flfuf sister go through hell to become one and plenty of girls die along the way, just like with the boys that become marines

>>95934947
It's telling that the female marine shills cannot understand the appeal of last stands and have no idea about so many men daydreaming these scenarios and similar power trips no matter how tragically they end.

It's also ironic that the actual reason they don't like Sisters of Battle is that they're too similar to real space marines in the lore, and not their retarded girl boss fantasies about pencil neck loli faces in big men armour.

>>95934989
>wrong. That's your obssesion about not being the center of attention
As I suspected, you haven't been reading marine codexes, their superhumanity is emphasized in the introduction.
>In their actual flfuf sister go through hell to become one and plenty of girls die along the way, just like with the boys that become marines
Marine aspirants die on the medical table if the implants fail to take, even basic guardsmen face generic lethal training conditions in 40k and Stormtroopers, the true male counterparts of the Sisters, face similarly lethal training but nothing like the Space Marines' gestation period. To put it simply for you and any other lorelet confused about this: aspirant trial marines and schola trainees may face lethal trials, but only Marines have to go through the medical ordeals related to making them superhuman.
>but maybe the implantation process is not relevant in marine lore so they are still like the Sisters?!
No. It's so important as well as crucial to becoming a Marine, even a scout marine, that for example Blood Angels have built their entire chapter cult around it. And Sisters or stormtroopers or any other mere human forces have nothing like it.

>>95934928
>It's why I have no illusions about space marines being cool to watch tear shit up, but not something one should ever actually WANT to live like.
Yes, but you run into the same issue as the Gundam franchise, where the spectacle of Combat greatly overshadows the harsh, grim realities of War.

>>95934947
>It's not even something 40k invented, it's a classic trope of war stories from the fucking Illiad to Band of Brothers.
>>95935040
So why do they have to be BROTHERS instead of SISTERS?!
I think your "Manhood" cheap!

>>95934483
>faction about tragic grimdark space buff men and their brother/daddy issues
The brother/daddy issues is the shittiest part Marine lore and onyl brought on by the Horus Heresy, which sucked.
>let's turn this into transient and shallow rainbow hair propaganda
How would having female marines automatically turn it alli to rianbow hair propaganda?

>>95935053
>mental gymnastics about technobabble that misses the point about the themes and roles of Astartes/Sisters within the 40k universe
The fact that you focus so much in the superhuman part of Astartes and not the rest, says it all.
You just cannot stand that the most succesful in 40k is a bunch of dudes stronger than any normal woman. That's it. Pure mean girl psychosis at not being the center of attention and the most popular.

>>95934483
>you want to erase the current space marines
There being female marines wouldn't actually erase the marines' aesthetic.
You couldn't even tell they were female under the armor as >>95934635 shows.

>>95935127
Superhuman parts define astartes. You focus on the rest and pretend they aren't just things Sisters of Battle and stormtroopers have in common, and to hide your lack of knowledge about the lore. And of course, as your seething reveals, you know yourself sisters are not the equals or counterparts of Space Marines because they are just that which is weaker than Marines - normal women.

>>95935115
>Yes, but you run into the same issue as the Gundam franchise, where the spectacle of Combat greatly overshadows the harsh, grim realities of War.
That literally doesn't matter, because despite what plenty of dumbfuck preachy writers think, you can't outright force a message down people's throats if they're not interested in it. If someone doesn't see any tragedy in the Space Marine's lot in life, that's literally not my problem.

>>95935151
If you're a space wolf player, your marines come from conditions where normal human life would be shittier and shorter than a marine one and your marines are jolly drunken vikangz and shiet, why would he necessarily need any tragedy there?

>>95935168
Pretty sure even space wolves feel sadness instead of glee when one of their brothers is laid low by an enemy. That and the ever-present threat/shame of devolving into a Wulfen if a battle gets pitched enough.

>>95934233
>This is how you introduce female marines.
You don't.

>>95935131
>There being female marines wouldn't actually erase the marines' aesthetic.
Yes it would. They are a BROTHERhood of knightly warrior-monks. This is what the entire aesthetic is based around.

>>95935151
>If someone doesn't see any tragedy in the Space Marine's lot in life, that's literally not my problem.
I mean it is, since it produces dumb fucks like >>95935127
And
>>95935143
Who are both Anti-Femarine posters accusing each other of not understanding what "suffering" is required of a Space Marine.

>>95935207
>They are a BROTHERhood of knightly warrior-monks.
Why can't they be a SISTERHOOD then?

>>95935115
>So why do they have to be BROTHERS instead of SISTERS?!
Because women have never been responsible for a real life last stand like that, they don't understand and can never appreciate it the way men can. They are biologically hard-wired for self-preservation because they're the ones that carry the babies, while men are biologically wired for self-sacrifice if it will protect the things they have fought to build. Females literally cannot get this on a fundamental biological level.

>>95935123
>The brother/daddy issues is the shittiest part Marine lore
wrong, is what made them what they are, and that's why the HH has been so successful
>How would having female marines automatically turn it alli to rianbow hair propaganda?
They'd go against the themes of Astartes. An out of universe change based in <current politics> and not an organic evolution of their lore based in being male.
You can't change that without ruining theirt uniqueness.
>>95935143
Sororitas, at least the militant orders, aren't "normal women". They're cherry picked across the imperium for their role and are in the top percents of humanity phisically and psychologically, many also featuring implants.
But see, here's your issue again: You hate than men are phisically stronger than women, and not just in 40k, but also in reality. This is you projecting your insecurity into a fictional setting to settle a score with men.
It's not about justice or "representation", it's about hating the other half of the species for being what they are. So you want to break their toys to feel better about yourself.

>>95935194
I'm pretty sure all non-Chaos/Nid/Ork factions have the potential to feel sadness when a comrade dies in battle but that makes tragedy such a common denominator that the whole wargame should be labeled as one, yet almost no one plays it that way.

>>95935123
>How would having female marines automatically turn it alli to rianbow hair propaganda?
Because the rainbow hair propaganda people are literally the ones shilling for femmarines, it's just like everything else. It's only the beginning. First there HAVE to be female marines because muh feminism. Then they HAVE to win every battle because violence against women is BAD so only portray them as infallible and indestructible and victorious every time. Then there HAVE to be gay and lesbian ones etc. etc.

None of the people who want female marines are fans of 40k. They are invaders seeking to pervert and destroy something that they don't like. You never give these people a fucking inch.

>>95935230
>Sororitas, at least the militant orders, aren't "normal women". They're cherry picked across the imperium for their role and are in the top percents of humanity phisically and psychologically, many also featuring implants.
Just like Stormtroopers, but compared to Space Marines both are humble mortals who have far more common with more fanatical regiments of Guard.

>>95935230
If you knew anything about Warhammer, yo'd realize normal women are not weaker than normal men in 40k - Sisters and Stormtroopers have the same statlines.

>>95935220
>retarded coomer cannot tell apart who is who in an argument
go back to fap to your anime shit
>>95935151
retarded pro female marine igirl boss idiots are the ones thnking that being a marine is an spirational goal.

Actual marinefags like me love them being torn apart in battle or by their hubris.

>>95935225
>Females literally cannot get this on a fundamental biological level.
ORLY?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBLHQUDDk0U

>>95935260
>using crunch as an argument in a lore/meta discussion
least retarded pro-femarine shill

>>95935267
Thanks for proving my point, given that nothing about that clip even has to do with what we're talking about. Calgar doesn't die there.

>>95935220
Again, not my problem. I don't speak for either anon, I just speak for myself. And I just know that I'm not interested in female space marines, either as a concept or as an expansion upon the general space marine concept. Frankly, if anything, I think adding women to the mix just makes the idea of what Space Marines are worse, since the imperium is already making essentially children into inhuman soldiers clad in giant metal coffins forced to drape themselves in concepts like honor, fraternity and purity to mentally cope with what they've become. And people want to subject MORE of that to humanity? To ensure that this unique dehumanization is spread out entirely among the populace, not just in the few who are selected to endure it as it is?

>but what about imperial guard
You're still fundamentally human and considered a person by your fellow man, even if the Imperium as a whole counts you as a statistic. You're not a giant cybernetic meat homonculus who wasn't outright brainwashed into loving a long-dead father figure.

>>95935234
Yeah, but Space Marines mald that shit up all the damn time. Look at Dawn of War, or any bit of the Horus Heresy.

>>95935274
>given that nothing about that clip even has to do with what we're talking about
>Willfully ignores the Anime Women going ape for the scene inspired by the Last Stand of the Crimson Fist
Sure buddy...

>>95935301
It's not a last stand, they literally survive, and none of those vtubers have ever seen the Rogue Trader cover.

>>95935273
If your argument is that people are mad about women being weaker than men in IRL and "want to make them equally strong as men in 40k" while they already are so by quantifiable metrics, it's just you operating on bad logic.

>>95935305
>It's not a last stand, they literally survive
It so totally IS!
Hence Papa Smurf's literal Gunship Rescue SAVING THEIR ASSES!
Again, I find your "Manhood" cheap!

>>95935314
Not him but quit being intentionally retarded. Space Marines are stronger and are all male, that's the point he's making.

>>95935195
Yeah, the decision is in the hands of Games Workshop but it's fine if they do it, it'll work out just like retconning the oldcrons worked out despite some autistic screeching.

>>95935327
You are incapable of getting it
You're either a woman or a fag

>>95935335
His point was that Sisters exist as equivalent of female Space Marines which obviously is not true since they are power-armored stormtroopers and he knew that himself by admitting they are weaker than Space Marines.

>>95935336
>but it's fine if they do it
No it isn't
>it'll work out just like retconning the oldcrons worked out despite some autistic screeching.
Lol no it won't

Necrons were always one of the least popular factions and even when they were retconned it wasn't because of some culture war bullshit being forced into the game.

This is Space Marines we're talking about, and it's entirely being pushed maliciously by people who want to destroy 40k. It would be a nuclear fucking cataclysm.

Luckily GW has already leaked that they will never do it, and that was before wokeness started losing its cultural hegemony.

>>95935344
>You are incapable of getting it
No, I think YOU are the one incapable of actually getting it, seeing as you assume self-sacrifice is some providence of birth and not, you know, willful sacrifice!
If your penis makes you SO disposable, why haven't you jumped on a landmine yet?

>>95935381
Proving my point further with every post, and you're so clueless you don't even understand how. Hilarious.

>>95935363
Adding some female head sprues won't destroy Space Marine sales, nor will some lore about Cawl fixing the implants so they work on women.
Even if necrons were unpopular, had their retcon been unpopular the faction's playerbase would have collapsed. It didn't, in fact it probably went slightly up since even those who actually played the faction and disliked the retcon were likely to buy new minis.

>>95935344
Real fags have no trouble understanding it.They're still men, after all, and they have been part of it since the fucking Illiad.
It's not even most women. By the time they became adults, they usually learn to respect/keep away "men stuff" as something that doesn't belong to their lives for better or worse. Even if sometimes they're fascinated by it (I know a girl obsessed with Band of Brothers).

No, this is terminally online culture warriors and their ivory towers of academic bs custom made to justify whatever they want to soothe their personal irrelevance and insecurities. The genderbent version of wannabe Andrew Tate losers

>>95935394
>Adding some female head sprues won't destroy Space Marine sales, nor will some lore about Cawl fixing the implants so they work on women.
Yes it actually would. It would be the biggest lore rape the game has ever received, done entirely out of ill will towards the real fans to pander to people who hate 40k. The backlash against GW would be immeasurable.

>>95935381
>Gunbuster
Written, directed, and animated by and for men. QED.
Also ironic because the themes and dynamic of that series 100% match Sisters of Battle to the point of their male coach becoming their spiritual anchor.

>>95935400
Unlikely, even the custodes backlash was largely driven by GW's social media response ("there's always been female custodes" is how GW does retcons, the C'tan were always sharded too after 5e Necron codex). There's no evidence additional head sprues have no effect on sales and lore blurbs in the codex have even less.

>>95935393
>>95935398
>It's not even most women.
NUUU, IF YOU HAVE A VAGOO YOU ARE LESS MAN!!!1!!2!3

>>95935412
>Also ironic because the themes and dynamic of that series 100% match Sisters of Battle to the point of their male coach becoming their spiritual anchor.
Glad someone guess the intention, but that doesn't take away Noriko and Kazumi literally sacrifice everything BESIDES their own lives to save humanity.

>>95935428
And the newest Custodes story written by ADB and just published not only doesn't mention femstodes, it splicitly says that each Custodes was supposed to be paired with a Sister of Silence as a team.
It was written in 2023 at the latest per the dates in the book, but it's still telling.

The femstodes debacle was clearly the result of a rogue element within GW, and not clearly somehting planned by GW as a whole. Otherwise they would have released new art and minis, but they didn't. There's only the stealth change in pronouns in the codex and that WH+ episode

>>95935436
>men wrote a fictional anime about women self sacrificing to save humanity
>this proves that women like and love self sacrifice stories
You could have used Joan of Arc and be little closer, but of course you aren't a man or a real woman

>>95935428
Custodes also didn't have EXPLICIT lore saying there could NEVER EVER be female Custodes, the way Space Marines do. It was heavily implied that they were all male, and everyone could still pick up on the fact that this was being done just to pander to the worst crowd, but it wasn't as drastic a lore rape as Marines would be, and Custodes aren't nearly as iconic or as popular as Marines either. You are gravely underestimating how bad this would be for GW.

Thankfully, like I already said, there are people inside GW who completely understand this and have said that as long as they work in that studio there will never be female space marines.

>>95935465
>written in 2023
That's the key here. GW doesn't spill the beans about new codexes or animations to contracted BL writers. Gav Thorpe already said regarding another recently released book without femstodes that they are canon. If GW actually retcons something it stops appearing in the codex.

>>95935465
>There's only the stealth change in pronouns in the codex and that WH+ episode
Wasn't there also the Blood Game story that started all this?

>>95935486
>You could have used Joan of Arc and be little closer, but of course you aren't a man or a real woman
No, I AM A SKELETON ROBOT!!!

>>95935490
8 fucking years later and people are still seething about primaris despite GW backtracking some of the changes and finally making numarines look closer to the old minis. And these idiots think femarines would not met any opposition or outrage amoing the fanbase despite the many warnings.

>>95935512
>GW doesn't spill the beans about new codexes or animations to contracted BL writers
You don't know ADBs current occupation since 2022

>>95935518
I think they're just pretending to be unaware, they know how much damage it would cause and that is literally their goal in the first place. If 40k was destroyed they would mark it as a cultural victory and just move on to the next thing they could shove their disgusting propaganda into.

>>95935490
Technically the studio stopped ADB from writing femstodes ten years ago when the model range and then put the mention about them being recruited from "sons" in 8e codex, but whoever decided that was overruled by the board of directors. They can do that about female marines too should they decide it.

>>95935526
Wow no wonder shit has gotten a lot worse recently.

>>95935532
Yeah well, while there's no way I can say for sure who the GW leaker was, I'd bet a fair amount of money it may have been Jes himself, who has a huge amount of influence and pull.

>>95935532
>Technically the studio stopped ADB from writing femstodes ten years ago
He just asked once and was told "no" by a boss. Then he and Christ Wraight decided to go along with it and write several tales and books about Custodes being all male and their Sisters of Silence besties

>>95935526
I genuinely wish that this faggot was shot dead.
Same goes for Gav Thorpe

>>95935578
>Same goes for Gav Thorpe
How dare you treat the man who wrote most of the 3rd edition lore and the fucking Inquisitor game lore, the top tier grimdark kino of all time, as on the same level as the literal piece of trash that is ADB

>>95935578
ADB hasn't ruined multiple factions lore and made fans dislike it like Gav (Eldar, Ynnari, Dark Angels, HH Raven Guard). Or making up lore breaking shit like Abnett. You and anons like >>95935599 are just polbrained.

>>95935634
Abnett does not break the lore, he defines it.

>>95935634
What you don't understand is both Thorpe and Abnett also CREATED most of the lore that you actually love in the first place, so if they broke a few things, it's forgivable.

ADB has never made anything but fucking garbage.

>>95935651
Gav confirmed after the ultimate guide that there are female custodes and they just wrote the bit referring to them as male too early to know about the retcons.

>>95935691
>my bosses decided there are female custodes so I have to go along with it now
Ok

>>95935647
>>95935651
Gav makes readers hate the protagonists of his books and not in a good way.
Abnett fucked up the most important job in his career by turning the end of the HH into a self indulgent mess to promote other of his books series. He should never write a single 40k story again.
ADB has written decent popular books and essential stories for several factions to this day (BT, GK, WE, WB, NL, BL, BA, SW, Custodes ) and at his worst, he's just been copying what Abnett does every time (OC characters, waifus)

Anyway Chris Wraigth is the actuall best overall GW writer.

>>95935710
40k's popularity among normies depends on waifus. They even waifu the primarchs (rule 63 so no homo)

>>95935710
>Gav makes readers hate the protagonists of his books and not in a good way.
Last Chancers is great. Also Gav's greatest work isn't BL crap, it's the actual rulebook lore he did, which has a lot of excellent stuff.

>Abnett fucked up the most important job in his career by turning the end of the HH
Frankly I don't care about the HH shit and will never read it, it shouldn't be canon. But Eisenhorn and Gaunt's Ghosts are defining works of the setting.

>ADB has written decent popular books
I don't care how popular they are, I've seen samples of his writing and it's fucking trash and extremely cringe.

>Anyway Chris Wraigth is the actuall best overall GW writer.
He's good, but Fehervari is better.

>>95935721
"waifus" in 40k are not even waifus outside of Abnetts inquisition stories. In SM stories they're there to show how fucking aloof and autistic marines are, and to avoid it all being a sausage fest

>>95935729
Nobody cares about rulebook fluff written by Gav 25+ years ago when he singlehandly made fans hate eldar and DA books, among others.
> Eisenhorn and Gaunt's Ghosts are defining works of the setting
Both are overrated and only good because of Abnett beign a pioneer and being the first at naming things. He also commited first and more often all the cringe shit that anons complain about ADB.
The Vaults of Terra by Wraight is a much better inquisition series.
>I've seen samples of his writing
>muh Fehervari
you're a casual talking from your ass about books you haven't read

>>95935769
>Nobody cares about rulebook fluff written by Gav 25+ years ago
Yeah they do since that stuff is about 1000x more important than any BL book ever written.
>singlehandly made fans hate eldar and DA books
Eldarfags will get over it, they're like 5% of the fanbase, and DA have plenty of books written by other authors.

>you're a casual talking from your ass about books you haven't read
I have read all of the things I listed. Definitely a lot more than you. The fact that you responded to Fehervari's name like that is enough to show you don't have taste worth considering.

Matt Ward is more important than Gav Thorpe regarding 40k lore since 5th edition rulebook is more foundational to its current status than some 3e eldar lore.

>>95935792
>dismiss the damage done by Gav to several key factions
>"I've seen samples of his writing" vs "I have read all of the things I listed"
>name dropping Fehervari for clout and street creed because he reads him being praised in the B&C
you're 100% a casual larping as an oldfag. Typical midhammer kid with delusions of being the final word on 40k, while in reality having being out of touch all the time

>>95935854
eldar lore that he proceed to rape in his eldar books until his Ynnari fiasco put an end to it

>>95935599
>>95935634
The way Thorpe writes eldar is inexcusable.

>>95935599
And wrote Chaos codex in 4th edition. If you compare it with 3rd edition codex you will want to shoot him, too.

>>95935901
I remember trying to read Wild Rider. You'd think that being about the posterboy eldar faction in 40k used for official minis would mean a quality book to push their popularity.
Nope, it's about Sain-Hann being a bunch of retarded backwards and imbred rednecks, with the "protagonist" being the dumbest jock of all them. And the Ynnari being barely better. I ended up wishing that the necrons killed them all.
That's your typical experience reading a Gav Thorpe book.

>>95935436
>NUUU, IF YOU HAVE A VAGOO YOU ARE LESS MAN!!!1!!2!3
Well actually yes......men don't have vaginas....

>>95935961
But that still doesn't explain why your daddy never loved you...

>>95936177
The emperor is a good enough biomancer that this may be canon.

>>95936297
INDEED!

>>95935230
>wrong, is what made them what they are, and that's why the HH has been so successful
Wow.
You have actual shit taste.

>>95935230
>themes of Astartes
The main theme of Astartes is being big ass mutant templars that shoot at stuff.

>>95935243
>Then they HAVE to win every battle because violence against women is BAD so only portray them as infallible and indestructible and victorious every time.
Nobody actually says this.

>>95936523
a female marine version of the trophy in pic related couldn't be made without raising a shitstorm, period

>>95937016
Yeah, but it's also why we Slaaneshi can't have tits either...

>>95935729
>He's good, but Fehervari is better
Fire Caste was an excellent book. Underrated, too.