Thread 95991157

Hola! Edition.

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>95981845

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
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>Tools
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>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
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>Thread Question
Which faction has the most erotic narrative potential?

>>95991157 (OP)
Skaven. Let me find my 800 page Queek fanfic.

Shit TQ
Alternative Thread Question :
Favourite model of your least favourite range & least favourite model of your favourite range ?
For me, I really like the slaangors although I don't care for slaanesh (or beasts for the matter, rip)
As for least fave of my faves, the ripperdactyl kind of looks like shit imo. Could benefit from an updated model

>>95991186
>best of the worst
The Grim Reaper looking dude from Nurgle closely beats out Big Ush (because I hate Nurgle aesthetic more)
>worst of the best
Probably Xandire from SCE, but that is mostly due to the dissonance with the actual character art on the box. Ignoring UW bands, it would be Chubbystant-Prime.

Ox has a mountain on his back and fox flies.
How the fuck is horse going to incorporate the river element?

>>95991229
It will be the only model in the game to attack using blast templates.

>>95991229
Kelpi?

>>95991229
wave riding

>>95991240
Knowing gw and their love for elves it’s entirely possible

>>95991186
Favorite of least favorite: Gaunt Summoner
Least favorite of favorite: Thrallmaster, Ikon is a close second.

>>95991184
Why is so much skaven rule 34 gay?

>>95991186
>Favourite in least favourite army
Vanari Lord Regent, wish I could still play Settler's Gain for one in CoS
>Least favourite in favourite army
Butcher looks like an ugly resin blob to me with soft weapons

>>95991229
Rivers of urine

>>95991324
Furries are overwhelming gay men or bi leaning hard gay
You aren't a furry are you?

>>95991229
Why the FUCK isn't the Roo drinking VB??

>>95991186
> Favorite in least Favorite
Magamdroth. One of the best dragon takes GE has ever done, it still holds up.
> Least favorite in favorite
Ossifactor/boneshaper. It's disgraceful how similar they are, clearly a limited edition model they decided was its own unit last minute.

>>95991186
>Favourite model of your least favourite range
Gur rippaz, I just really like their shields. I really wish I could buy them separately.
>least favourite model of your favourite range?
Pink/blue horrors, the kit should have been made more abstract. For as much as people love to deep throat the old metal minis, I dont think they did the job well either.

How does my brute look? I'm trying to do the kryptboyz scheme cause it's easier than the yellow/black classic scheme while still looking good.

>>95991186
>fav model of least fav range
idk maybe the magmadroth, or the Dude with the scythe on the skeletal pegasus from nighthaunt. I saw it in the store the other day and I was taken aback by how well it fits together


>LEAST fave model of fav range
Fungoid cave shaman. It was so close to being good but they put a weird mushroom on his head and a giant metal Iranian nose. Also ALL of the sun goblins

>>95991405
that one's not quite done yet, my freehand needs some work too. here's the first one I did. 3 more to go after my current brute

>>95991405
Pretty good

>>95991229
Ah yes
Because foxes are well known for their abilities of flight.

I posted last month about how I was committed to clearing out my Pile of Shame. Setting my mind to that task clarified it, so over the past weeks I've sold some models, gave some away, and decided what projects I really want to continue on with. I made a list of every one of my unfinished models. It came to 121. Which means if I do just a little more than ten models a month, my PoS will be complete within the year. That's more than doable. I'm going to be posting here at the start of every month to keep myself honest.

>JULY 1 2025
>MODELS COMPLETE
0
>MODELS LEFT
121

>JULY GOALS
15 models completed
Cities of Sigmar Spearhead completed

I mentioned last thread that some guy was selling the skaventide skaven half for 100 USD. Well I got it today and it should arrive in the mail in a couple days.

I have never painted a rat before or played them before but skryre's volatility (to myself and the opponent) seems super fun. New rat ogors are also very nice but I don’t like any of the other big moulder monsters.

I like all of the skryre units, especially their foot heroes with the cute rat-bionics and lenses. The ratling warpblaster and artillery batteries look fun as well. Stormfiends aren't my cup of tea, and I don't want to run more clanrats that necessary to fill their role.

Can any anon tell me what a blasty skryre list would look like and what units it would need to supplement the ranged firepower? I don’t know how far to lean into each battle formation in terms of my units’ keywords. Like, how many clanrats or non skryre heroes does a typical skryre list take?

>>95991468
Flying is the way they added wind to the fox. Question was how will the add river to the horse.
Also, did you think irl oxen have mountains on them???

>>95991492
The model solution is pretty easy, just have it racing through the water with some kind of cool splash effect.

The real question is how will it be reflected in the rules

>>95991508
>Fly

>>95991508
Charge bonus

>>95991508
Considering the Riverblades have a combat move and instant transmission to a board edge. I’d assume it could have charge mortals or move through combat with mortals that allows it to just plow through a unit without fighting.

>>95991186
i dont generally like the ogre range but this squad in particular is great

>>95991508
lord of the rings river horses when the nazgul are chasing arwen with frodo

>>95991476
>make a list for me
No, go netlist some tournament shit and find them yourself spoonfed baby

>>95991508
>>95991593
It's gona be a bipedal horse guy, not a regular animal though.

What is the difference between Seraphon and Tzaangors?
For Seraphon everything is according to the PLAN.
For Tzaangors everything is according to the KEIKAKU.

>>95991610
Honestly it's the Bipedal assumption that makes this hard to picture. Doing a cool-ass water horse is ez-pz. Making a Bipedel Horse not look like a joke is a whole different ball-game.

>>95991476
Play spearhead first before you get anything else new. Also just a word of advice, in a couple months skaven are probably going to get a Christmas box. So keep an eye out for that.

>>95991157 (OP)
>TQ
Fyreslayers, obviously.

>>95991625
>What is the difference between Seraphon and Tzaangors?
Dinosaurs aren't birds and anyone who claims otherwise is a millenial cuck buck broken by Jurasic Park 3.
SPINOSAURUS FUCKING WON, desl with it Rex-fag

>>95991642
It will be worse than you think because the special character river spirit is already confirmed to be a female.
maybe they can try to play it elegant by giving her a long gown of some kind.

>>95991472
Good on you, anon.

>>95991658
Next you'll tell me whales aren't fish.

>>95991667
>It will be worse than you think because the special character river spirit is already confirmed to be a female.

Bipedal water horse is actually realy fucking easy, because there's already a horse related water guy.
Just have a guy in a horse mask hold a trident and have some wave effect under him

>>95991667
>>95991691
reminds me of the horse god from exalted deeds in 3.5.

slap some lumineth armor and a fancy porcelain mask on this and its probably close to what you can expect

>>95991667
Lexicanum says she’s made out of water. Tough imagining what she’s gonna end up looking like. I dislike how all the greatest spirits are Ymetrican, though. Sevireth should be Heloni(at least his origin is Haixiah) but is colored as Ymetrican, and another nation could be Daixo’s.

Just wanted to say thanks to whoever gave me advice about the blades of khorne from the last thread.

>>95991186
My least favorite range is probably the stormcast. I am struggling to find a model I like from it, but I suppose the Knight Vigilor with the two dogs look ok. I wish the beast smasher and king brodd had more to distinguish them from eachother.

>>95991743
>I dislike how all the greatest spirits are Ymetrican, though
Yeah it's just laziness on GW's part, lets them paint all the spirits in the same default color scheme.

I humbly request to be bequeathed the 4th edition Slaves to Darkness battletome. I really wanna see the Anvil rules in it.

>>95991658
drink bleach, frogshitter
>>95991667
I'm fairly certain there's a thread on /trash/ for (you)
>>95991157 (OP)
Ogors have both the highest level of testosterone and brodom.

>>95991979
I shall offer the next sacrifice to the dark gods in your name, anon.

>>95991186
still annoyed they gave these dudes yet another warscroll that still sucks again.

least - arkhan
fav - steel helms

>>95991476
popular shit is the verminking and deathmaster, reinforced ratling guns, reinforced doomflayers, reinforced warpfire throwers clanrats are like 40-60.

>StD anvil gets you a flying monster with 16 wounds, 12" move, 3+ save, CS6, 7A 3+/2+/-1/2 (Crit Mortal) (Charge +1D), 6A 4+/3+/-1/3 Companion that can fight twice once per game and heals D3 wounds every turn plus a bunch of other shit because these aren't even all your DP for all this shit for 350 points
Fucking hell I wish we had access to this stuff in the regular game. StD needs a generic monster hero. Gonna get me a Tahlia and convert the bitch up.

>>95992265
Isn't manticore lord still in?

>>95992346
Nta, he’s legends.

>>95992265
Its annoying with the named chars, sbgl lost vlozd, Tahlia has no generic, megaboss, verminlords, Mangler boss, Sludgeraker, and flosh nerfed hard.

>>95992265
I don’t get why there’s no generic version of Abraxia.

>>95991229
Horse moves by creating a flying stream of water below its feet.

>>95992518
Because GW is more interested in desperately trying to build an IP with recognisable characters, than it is interested in offering a sandbox with hobby tools.
Now BVY ZE NOVEL or else.

>>95992625
the two are not mutually exclusive, you can have your named characters AND a comprehensive character builder.

>>95992625
>Because GW is more interested in desperately trying to build an IP with recognisable characters, than it is interested in offering a sandbox with hobby tools.
>Haven't done shit with the game or it's characters since the edition launched

Pick one or the other James

>>95992670
The less mandatory and unique the special characters are the less widespread and renown they get in the eyes of the players.

There are no generic varanguard lords on thanatorgs so that abraxia gets fielded and talked about more.

>>95992742
Name a character who is only well known because they had good rules and no lore.

>>95992794
Magic the gathering is actually full of those, like Thalia only being popular due to being spammer in Death and Taxes

>>95992794
How many people are familiar and invested with Kragnos lore?

>>95992794
I'll give you two: celestant prime and kragnos

>>95992839
Everyone

>>95992625
The main motivation is that people bought Primarchs up and I'm sure the Fantasy/AoS imitations do well enough. How many chumps here bought Teclis?
GW are desperate to replicate 40k successes in AoS, so we get forced Blacktalons and Drekki Flynt immediately thinking that mirrors 40k's decades of beloved novel heroes finally getting models.
Design wise they probably prefer heroes barred from enhancements and AoS has always leant top-down with list building for varying reasons but now it's simplicity+competitive expectations (that's a glupshitto MTG deck, I know it'll be agro).
>1st edition: General gets to their command ability only, the general choice matters
>2nd edition: General dictates battleline
>4th edition: Regiment leaders dictate list options, Armies of Renown mandate hero inclusions, etc
So it makes sense to exaggerate the significance of heroes with backstories.

>>95992839
Kragnos has no lore, his book is non-canon and in official texts he's a nonentity

>>95992875
>wooden shield

>>95992839
I'm only invested insofar as someone who thinks kragnos should die on its way to his home planet, can be concerned.

>>95992839
>came at the end of 2nd
>Left at the end of 3rd
>No longer relevant to the plot
>Achieved nothing in his time on the Mortal realms

Thats the lore of Kragnos.

>>95992850
>the celestant-prime
Been ages seen I've heard the dude talked about, what is he up to nowadays ?
>>95992875
>>95992918
>>95992976
I really wish they did more with kragnos. His aesthetic is top tier, wish we saw more of it in aos (although maybe a little bit better executed)

>>95992839
He should have been a chaos character for beasts of chaos, shaggoths and other chaos adjacent monsters like ogroids, fimir, fomoroids, chaos giants, chimeras and shit.

If he was to be in destruction then he should have been green and worn a mask.

>>95993010
I don't think we've seen him in 3e. We just got info that Yndrasta and Ionos have the same sort of universal stomhost clarance as him

>>95993027
Yeh he'll fit perfectly into Ogors and Behamat, which make up 50% of all Destruction forces, if he was just a big orc.
How are great minds like you not in charge of the game?

>>95993027
Dude remember the Stalagmite Squig and the Bat Squig from Mollog's Mob?
Kragnos should've been a gigantic overgrown sentient squig with centaur features - like some kind of Squiggoth/Squiggadon but he's so different from default squigs that people aren't really sure what he is anymore and they start worshipping him.

Maybe even a collection of squigs - a horse squig and some humanoid squig and hair squig all fused together as a Megazord

the model would've needed just small adjustments for that, and he would be a strange monstrosity that makes sense

Let’s say you had a Time Machine. How would you go back in time and stop AoS from failing?

>>95993051
Yes, he would fit perfectly because all Ogors and Behemats worship two gigantic green orcs yelling "waagh" anyway.
>that sounds dumb!
Yep, take it on Games Workshop, not us

>>95993076
They don't thiugh. Way to show yoy're taking your lore from fucking Majorkill or other YT retard

>>95993059
collapse the aetheric void into an aetheric plane of solid star stuff.
Now we can have ONE fucking map! Woah!

Also, how about we release the missing forces instead of coming up with some bullshit FOMO?

I can already see in the future:
the Fragglesnazz Hyenakin - hyena men fighting for Destruction! The Dovakin Ironlords - medieval robots shooting laser spells for Sigmar!

...meanwhile - Malerion who?

>>95993059
Cancel the end times, instead have the campaign books set up the battle of middenheim which archaon is aiming at to break the portal beneath it, when he does the world doesn't end, instead the veil of reality breaks enough for the mortal realms (born between the world and the realm of chaos when the polar gates collapsed during the great catastrophe) to be accessible from the old world, with various portals opening or activating.
middenheim is a new mordheim/pragg-like ruined city with a magical fallout in the middle; various factions now begin colonising the mortal realms and encountering beings and factions that already arrived here before (sigmar arrived here when he left the empire, for example, some dwarfs followed grimnir on his quest to close the northern gate and arrived here, the elves that lived on those regions of ulthuan that sank with the sundering were saved by mathlann and brought here etc)
the mortal realms now exist in parallel with the old world
the game is an exploratory beginner friendly rules-light system compared to the mass battles of the stock standard fantasy rulebook

>>95993096
My mistake, I thought Ogors and Gargants worshipped Gorkamorka like the wiki says.
You should fix it with your superior knowledge of the setting.

>>95993104
The tenebrael shard is such a cool model. I hope that if/when they do malerion shit they'll get a full unit or somehing
>the dovakin ironloeda - medieval robots shooting laser spells for sigmar
Don't threaten me with a goos time.
>>95993140
Nta but ehhhh, it's "aspects" of gorkamorka, who are so different they should just be seperate things. All of destruction having to be connected through gorkamorka (who is obviously greenskin focused let's be real) is dumb as fuck. They just like fucking shit up, do they really NEED a shared quasireligion

>>95993010
If he had an army it would be 10000000000000x better.
Fuck, get rid of ogres (send them back to Olde World) and give us the Kragnos race
> t. Has about 4k worth of ogres he is making for TOW/AoS

>>95993294
Hey another fellow player of both games. I thinks Ogors should go back with Cathay being released because they lie in between Cathay and the Old World proper. Chorfs are coming soon so that’ll be another spot on the map filled in, just missing the mountains of mourn

>>95993294
Kragnos race army has to be up there as one of the most braindead takes that someone has writen more than once before hiding away in embarassment.
What's the point of adding diet Sons of Behemat except with 4 legs?

If you actually had a brain you'd propose some wierd kitchen sink for all the realm natives like Kragnoss, think Abholons, Silen Ones, Ogroids etc., but that's not a kragnos race army and would still trigger you faggots who get tilted over not all units in an army being the same dude with different gear

>>95992850
Prime's rules haven't even been particularly good most of the last 10 years. A better candidate would be Kairos.

>>95991658
Holy FUCKING based.

>>95993027
He never needed to exist in the first place. Brodd was the perfect candidate for a cross faction center piece.

You people see a hole, and want GW to FLESH IT OUT, to FILL IT.

Games Workshop does not do that with Fantasy, and CERTAINLY not with AoS.
Everything stays unfinished, in flux, uncertain, unconfirmed.
If there are 9 Cathay Dragon Children we will get 5.
If there are 5 kinds of Aelves we will get 4.
If there are 4 kinds of Orruks we will get 2.

>>95993367
They'd be smaller you nitwit.
When they made an army around the Morghasts they gave them foot soldiers named Mortek Guard.
When they made an army around Witch Elves they gave them monsters and ranged units.

You don't literally copy and paste one kit when you conceptualize an army, you moron.

>>95993388
Narratively it is nice to have some wiggle room if you have a really good idea for later. But it's still fun to speculate and imagine what might go in those holes. So to speak.

>>95993388
I don’t want it to be completely full. Some mystery is fun and necessary. But they also can’t go around hand waving basic world building and leaving everything that isn’t immediately related to the plastic toys as a nebulous mess.

>>95993367
>>95993417
Kragnos is unusually large for his race iirc, the rest was more normal sized.
I think his pseudo-celtic shield, armour and mace style is really cool and I would like to see it applied more. Whether that means a drogrukh faction or in another form is fine by me. I'm also down for more destruction that isn't greenskins.

>>95993459
I think if you went to GW and mentioned "a new destruction army completely unrelated to old Orcs and Goblins army lists" they would look at you like you're an alien speaking a foreign language.

Afterwards they'd start workshopping the new battletome for the Rogue Idols faction and the new Pump Wagon faction

>>95993388
You will live to see the two missing Primarchs named.

>>95993524
And at least one of them will be a black woman

>>95993524
But I already know the names of Sigmar and Nagash

>>95993524
They're named Rubinek and Malibron.
The first one was retconned, the second one is almost canon.

>>95993367
See this other anon correcting calling you a fucking retard >>95993417
And it would NOT be another SoB (which is 100% a mistake anyway and sucks as an army and lessens the game and setting).
If anything, it would be a model swapped BCR, with big ish monsters and super heavy cav. Hell Kragnos HIMSELF isn't that big, he is just on a huge base with a retarded little cliff he is posing on to try to height Maxx (like a loser manlet in 2" boots).
Long story short, they have done nothing with Ogors in all of AoS, so cut them loose and expand the thing you CLEARLY want people to give a shit about (Kragnos). People will care more if he has an army, full stop

>>95993540
Actually Sigmar is the third central head of the hydra between Alpharius and Omegon

>>95993388
>there are 4 kinds of Orruks
What

>>95993590
Kragnos haters are delusional and write nonsens

Why'd we never get a Spiderfang Warboss on Arachnarok?

>>95993590
There’s actually more if we’re counting fantasy, but think the differences between goblins and hobgrots

>>95993618
Ironjawz and Gutrippaz?

>>95993606
Why would we never?

>>95993590
Bonesplitterz, Ironjawz, Kruleboyz, and the now super-squatted default "Greenskinz".

>>95993641
What do you mean? Greenskinz have a great spearhead

>>95993641
Bonesplitterz were addressed, they're gone.
Greenskinz were just squatted and the original fluff for Ardboys as the hardest Orruks that weren't Ironjawz was retconned/deleted, so the official cycle of life is
Ardboys -> Brutes -> Megaboss

>>95993707
isn't this considered a terrible batallion by tow players ? or so i've picked up through hobby osmosis

what's up with the weekly AoS is dying threads?

>>95993810
AoS seems to be dying. The 10 year anniversary is in 3 days and no one at GW remembers or cares.

>>95993863
There's still time to de-transition and play TOW

>>95993810
no mention of the anniversary, but really its the cathay shit that riled up all the ToW trolls again.

the reality is that we've already had 4 army updates with multi kit range expansions this year, so really we arent doing that bad. the gitmob and deathrattle updates were as large as some entire armies, and the deepkin and KO updates are more than just a pity hero which is a good sign.

>>95993929
>all the ToW trolls
dude, the same retard who's shitting up /aosg/ about aos dying or black female dwarfs on battletome covers or nonbinary fishelves is shitting up /wfg/ about dark skinned people in roleplaying artworks, cathay being redacted by sensibility teams, and other forms of concern trolling.

There's no tow vs aos thing going on, it's always ever been one or two obsessive retards brought up on tales of tortanic, console wars and /pol/, whose main form of entertainment online is eating and vomiting inflammatory stuff like a drug.

It wouldn't even surprise me if it was the same old ben, the type of collages and catalog spam is in line with what he used to do.

>>95994032
meh they actually are shoving nogs and fat lesbians into every model range, but I'm used to it by now.

>>95993792
It's mostly the lack of cavalry and that many goblins, but it's not actually a bad box to get started. Just slap on a boss and some boarboyz and you're set.

>>95993707
Worse than the old SC and army bundle GW sold

Sometimes I kind of want to build four Warhammer Legends armies with the only four forces available, on round bases, and revive it.
There could be a narrative of the Skaven trying to sell some slaves in Naggaroth for the first time and things going awry

Is there ever a reason to follow the other mortal realms if you’re just invested in a single one? Outside of following the main plot, of course.

>>95994389
Just play The Old World

>>95994475
But then he won't have anyone to play with

>>95994475
They're going to do editions and change stuff all the time with Old World.
Plus with Warhammer Legends I can play Throgg, Azhag, Skarsnik, Malagor, and all the other characters who will never get rules again.

Plus round bases look cooler

>>95992625
Kinda funny how every single recognizable character from AoS is from WFB
>archaon
>teclis
>belakor
>negash
>gods
I do think Abraxia and the Idoneth king are the follow-ups but that is a pretty damn low bar.

>>95994478
More people will play Old World over AoS 1e

>>95994591
The Nighthaunt have some memorable characters, the guy with the ghosts playing the trumpet in his ears for all eternity is a big W

FUCK I JUST MISSED OUT ON THE CHANCE TO GET THE SILVER TOWER BOX IM SONFUCKING MAD
>>95994591
Um belakor is from 40K actually.
But on a serious note, there’s radukar, katakros, yndistra*, skragot ( it’s genuinely depressing how lacking destruction is in the character department), and I guess there’s krethusa.

>>95994684
destruction has plenty of characters, but nobody cares about Gobsprakk or Gordrakk or Brodd because they're just a flanderized version of their faction's traits

>>95994684
>here’s radukar, katakros, yndistra*, skragot ( it’s genuinely depressing how lacking destruction is in the character department), and I guess there’s krethusa.
Uhh, I dont know who any of those are. As for destruction, I think gitz are funny but I dont know any of them.

>>95994607
Legends is compatible with 3e.
I'd say homebrew warscroll adjustments for 4e would be easy, it's more about removing fun than translating

>>95994607
Debatable

>>95994749
You can go into Brodd's backstory, motivations and role in metaplot without even mentioning he's a giant. How is that flandarization of SoB?
Or do you just use fancy words you don't know hoping retards will agree with you if you sound smart?

>>95992625
Their AoS Chaos novels have a pretty good track record,, Ill check that one out

How would you go about painting Spirit Hosts to resemble Ghostflame from Elden Ring?

I've been trying to figure out a good way to give them that greenish black core that leads into the pale white-blue fire but I'm kind of a brainlet when it comes to developing original paint schemes. Any advice?

>>95994853
Huh, honestly I would play 3e over 4e, my best games in 3e just ignored battle tactics and grand strategies.

>>95995369
Mimicing that exactly would be pretty hard, I can't really see my way to that
My best idea for getting something like it would be, do you see how the Hosts have like a main stalk, and then the head and arms and a bunch of tendrils all come out at the end? You could do the main stalk as the green is black and then the head/arms/tendrils at the end as the pale fire

I really hope the stormbringer/combat patrol magazine equivalent that comes next year(?) has all the old spearheads in it.

>>95995369
You ever seen when people paint cloaks with like a galaxy pattern? Do that but with the whole ghost and go with cold blues instead of the usual purples

Wait, othar was for sbgl. I was expecting them to be a night haunt reveal, so now I’m confused on the state of the model.

>10 chaos marine
>skaventide skaven (more of an investment/insurance than a project)
>8 rot mire creed
>5 cadians
>skink star priest and the leftover alt body you can use as a foot star priest
>3 kommandos
>4 brutes current WiP
I’m getting hobby anxiety about not finishing most of the my backlog before chorfs come. I paint almost everyday for 2-3 hours. I really think Chorfs could be my darlings if they’re executed and designed well. I’ve p much settled for painting mostly lots of Nurgle and gitz before that. I like them but chorfs can possibly be my new favorites.

I know my backlog is relatively small but I like to paint them to a decent standard and don’t batch paint more than 5-6 at a time depending on the project.

Do we know the rumored release season or quarter for the Dawi zharr? I’m going to get their release box cause I’m a consoomer but I’d like to do it with a clear conscience that I’ve painted most of my stuff already.

Should I play an only Battlemages list?

Does anyone know the highlight color they used on the black and the brown they used on the armor paint?

>>95996760
>Do we know the rumored release season or quarter for the Dawi zharr?
supposedly October. I dont really know though because thats a valrak take and I dont trust the fat fuck any more than I can throw him.

>>95996770
its whatever they used on black templars, but that is a very sexy scheme.

We're still expecting something new for Nighthaunts soon, right? If I remember right they said something about them getting something this year.

>>95996845
They got pushed back to either halloween or something idk. For now its idoneth, khorne, khadrons, (chorfs?), then night haunt. or fec. Idk. Really wish they made the idk and khorne release together.

>>95996770
Looks like the same blueish colour they used to highligh chaos warriors, but a lot more subtle. Don't remember the paint name

>>95995735
60-80 kits fells overly generous, even for those magazines

>>95997167
How many were in the 40K one?also Just ditch the paint and useless brushes if need be, the minis are still probably worth less to produce than that stuff.

Almost thought this was Larp/cosplay gear.

>>95997312
What is it then??

>>95997368
I'm guessing those special portrait statue things

>>95997312
the nurgle one actually looks pretty cool, but i'm never buying shit like this. People these days don't make enought to support a kid but have a bunch of disposable income that they spend on shit like this

also nurgle always has the best armor and mismatched gear

>>95997312
>nurgle instead of undivided
>no helmet for best alliance: death

>>95997588
There's a skeleon inside all of them

>>95997312
Ardboy is doing the Dreamworks face

>>95997588
>no helmet for best alliance: death
Oh man this helmet is so iconic!

>>95997635
I was thinking a nighthaunt one, actually, since most others either have way too unwieldy crests or are too plain
the ghosts have some interesting helmets/masks designs here and there, the kruleghast for example

>>95997652
on a tangential note, isn't it weird that nighthaunts have the chariot with the entombed vampire, while soulblights have the chariot with the swirling spirits, and not the other way around?

>>95997635
those aren't their actual faces, those are masks

>>95997635
>>95997687
so yeah, that could have been a helmet design perfectly

>>95997652
Version of Chainghast where it has a keyhole for a face would be cool

>>95997687
If you think about it OBR are basically soul hermit crabs that inhabit bone shells

>>95997706
aren't we all?

>>95997708
You're a grey slime piloting strands of meat

>>95997702
I can go one step beyond

>>95997735
Chainghasts already have the keyhole option. I ment that they should have used that specific head for the helmet show off thing

>>95997588
No cool face mask for death i guess

>>95997735
what faction would xehanort be?

>>95998011
All the keyblades are in Fyreslayers

>>95998070
I think im gonna like what happens to fyre slayers.

Got the two ogor spearheads boxes just for spearhead, but wondering how I could expand them to a full force. Looks like I'd already be at 1.7k, but idk anything about mawtribes in bigmar. Any must-have units or any units from the spearheads that don't scale well to 2k?

>>95998172
You have enough basic guys, time to start on Stonehorns/Thundertusks

>>95998172
Not an ogre player, purely going off what some guy at the lgs said :
Gutbuster side of the army is generally better than the beastclaw raider part, although bcr is fun to play
Gluttons and ironguts are great, leadbelchers not so much
Butchers are really good and synergize well with aforementioned gluttons and ironguts (I think) ?
If you want to fill in an extra 300 points I guess you can either look into getting a butcher + maybe some extra gluttons, or get yourself a big centrepiece bcr stonehorn or thundertusk. Depends on your preferred playstyle, aesthetics, etc...
Personally I'd go with the big monsters but that's just because I like em so much
Again take everything i said with a grain of sand. Maybe watch one of those faction pack overview videos on youtube if you want a more detailed/accurate look.

>>95998221
>grain of sand
Kek you know whay i mean

>>95998221
>>95998209
good to know, thanks boys. i'll look into the butcher and a monster. i like the gutbusters side a little more personally, but im not opposed to a centerpiece model

Finished this brute, tho there are a couple little spots that need touch ups.

They remembered us.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xgqtxbqa/take-control-of-the-tides-with-a-new-army-rule-in-battletome-idoneth-deepkin/

>>95998335
and here's the one I started today. about 2.5 hours of work. So glad I went with black armor for these guys.

lmk if I'm using too much of this copper metallic paint

>>95998335
>>95998338
looks good to me. nice job on the face

>>95998336
So pretty much they keep the old tides but they have an alternate track which is instead teleport a unit-reduce enemy rend by one, -crit mortals in melee.

It's good to have options, I guess.

>>95998336
Not like the old battle trait was super exciting, but I really dislike when a core faction skill in 40k or AOS is just a +/- 1 modifier to a primary stat.

>>95998336
> Strike first or crit mortals
> But ONLY for your turn
A heavy nerf but it was probably needed. Losing the deployment tricks doesn't seem like it was necessary but in this season you probably didn't want to do it anyway.
Turn one redeploying a bunch of shit could be fun, especially if it's in THEIR hero phase so it can set up for your turn (including scoring) is very interesting.
We need some leaker Chad to just drop the entire book already, fuck this GW drip feed

>>95998335
Needs MOAR cheques

So while making the nexus of grief I thought the enclosed crypt could use a led but it's base it way too small to fit the 9v battery for the led's I have , would grogs be mad at me for moving shit to different bases,

>>95998580
nobody cares if the scenery is slightly taller.

>>95998580
Dumb retard grogs who don’t appreciate sick LEDs won’t appreciate it but let’s be honest we don’t care about them

>>95998336
Not inspiring a lot of hope in me, desu. Too much lost for the flexibility of choice and our one big trick in turn 3 is nerfed. -1 rend is who fucking cares tier on a low save army. Crit mortals on melee weapons is only good on Namarti spam unless it’s going to affect companion weapons, in which case eels will love it, but the way the article reads doesn’t inspire confidence it will. And Sea tides is tides of death but nerfed.
>>95998403
It’s only one unit redeployed unless you take the subfaction to do 2.

>>95991405
>>95991424
Cool brute, Anon.

I've paused some 'Ardboys that I am batch painting and finished Morgok's Krushas a while back. It's been a few months since I painted anything though.

Pic rel is one of the 'Ardboys I've finished. I want to retouch him and make the armor dirtier but will wait until all of my other orruks are at that stage.

My girlfriend was on a trip recently and gifted me the mangler squig so I feel the urge to get back into it again.

>>95998631
The hope is that taking away the "one big trick" means there's more design room for a lot more small tricks without them compounding so hard.
Whether or not they deliver on that promise remains to be seen.

>>95998687
Has 4E delivered on a single battletome so far? The record is pretty grim.

>>95998687
The one big trick is still there and it’s nerfed, according to the way the article reads it’s only out turn, not the battle round. And now GW has to balance the book with all units possibly being SF or crit mortals. This is the design team that thinks d6 damage is always 6 we’re talking about here. My expectations are in the gutter and I hope I’m wrong.

>>95998704
>My expectations are in the gutter
You had expectations?

>>95998735
Yeah, read a little further and you’ll see what they were. We’re getting a book, so something had to change.

>>95997735
reminds me of that thing from dark souls 2 on top of drangleic castle

>>95998771
The Embedded

how come StD don't have possessed warriors or mutations? Are they solely concerned with personal ambition over worship and servitude?

>>95998820
Planty of Stds have random horns growing from their heads. I don't know about your country, but here that wouldn't be considered normal

>>95998820
because the current range is a reiteration of the older models that were made plain on purpose as a blank slate for conversions.

chaos is meant to be full of mutations and stuff, but they're ideally so varied that trying to standardise them into a kit is a challenge to say the least, so you, the hobbyist must do it on your own.

>>95998704
I don't think they think too hard about that, I've noticed there's a lot of lack of understanding how stats work on their team or they don't want things to synergize strongly. The wight king on steed is 230 points or something insane and he gives plus one hit to a unit type that specifically does the bulk of their damage on crit 6 mortals. The wight king hands out exploding 6s which don't stack with mortals. Mortek guard have anti charge when the battle trait gives anti charge and they don't stack. It's like the battle tomes are spat out by chatgpt or were written before they locked core rules into place. Most likely they were written for spearhead first and adapted to AOS after.

>>95998820
They're new and chose to refresh the core attributes over superfluous additions, but mutations are failure not something to celebrate and every god army indicates divergence with blessings already.
Wilderfiend covers it alongside the Belakhor guys and formerly all the cultists I guess

>>95998862
>but mutations are failure not something to celebrate
No? all the tribes under chaos see mutations as blessings.

The only ones who got the special snowflake mentality are archaon's closest circle of people forcefully subscribed to ADB's blog.

>>95998580
I doubt anyone would even notice desu. Go for it.

>>95998580
Nigga why do you need a fucking 9v battery for some tiny LEDs?
Wire it to a watch battery, like someone who ISNT in the third world

>>95997588
>GW ignoring Death
Pretty par for the course. They're clearly their least favorite of the alliances.

Haven't seen it discussed here yet, but last week whitefang replied to some guy in TGA about cities of sigmar to "have hope". You guys think they're getting some love this edition or will it be idk style pity+ release ? What would a second CoS of wave entail, ironweld stuff ? city dwarfs ? arch-knights ?

>>95999502
Baseless rumours say dwarf theamed ironweld remake

>>95999502
The hole in the cos line is very obvious. They have no damage dealing infantry worth a shit, so you have to run command squads and callis and toll and 20 or 30 cavalry. The wizards and tanks are next to be replaced, they're doing everything outside of directly just telling you not to buy anything old in the book.

>>95999502
Have hope == devoted refresh
Duardin squatted with no replacement

>>95999458
Dude, how can you say that when destruction exists?

>>95999502
I still think he’s got the rumors confused and the said traditional looking duardin will combine with slayers to make a brand new faction.

>>95999866
Hope and faith isn't the same thing

>>95999502
I expect cities to get their fuckhueg cogfort as a scenery piece and I honestly don't care about them getting anything more than that.
gargolyan themed endless spells, a generic hero on a gargolyan monster, and gargolyan monstrous cavalry would also be incredibly based, but I'm not holding my breath.

>>95999903
cogforts have a good amount of hype behind them, I feel like making them terrain would undercut it somewhat. Look at the idoneth manifestation for example, I think the reception would have been a bit warmer if they announced it as a normal monster or something.
I don't know which one i'd prefer, thinking about it. I mean it is a cogFORT, but on the other hand it's (supposed to be) moving around, at that point just make it a unit. i'm curious.

>>96000043
>making them terrain would undercut it somewhat
people want the cogfort to be as big as possible, but the bigger you make them the more impractical they are to move on the table, so a piece of scenery ensures they can make it as big as possible

>>95999903
>>96000110
I think I'd prefer it if the scenery piece was a metalith with construction materials and supplies on top, while the cog"forts" were towers with spider legs that occupy 130mm bases and then went vertical.

>>96000166
>>96000174
Seriously the most cringe chamon shit I've ever seen. just play 40k

>>96000184
Look, if there were better conversions at hand I would post those.

>>95999316
>Wire it to a watch battery,
that'd inply a level of technical competence I don't have

>>95999502
The dickriding of this guy is truly sincerely pathetic here. You’d think after the obvious bullshit of skaventide being the second best selling box of all time people would take this faggots cryptic horseshit with a grain of salt.

>>96000185
Spider leg crap doesn't fit their aesthetic its too anachronistic looking. They shouldn't have anything better than a rickety ass davinchi tank.

>>96000376
Uh oh someone’s mad

>>96000376
except he was right, gw core revenue up 15% from june to december.

>>96000376
anon, the guy has an excellent track record when it comes to model leaks. FEC, lumineth back in the day, Stormcast vs skaven being the 4th edition launch box (okay, stormcast isn't that hard to figure out lol). At least on the model side of things he's got a good track record.

>>96000376
>You’d think after the obvious bullshit of skaventide being the second best selling box of all time people would take this faggots cryptic horseshit with a grain of salt.
Anon that's not even the same guy

>>95991186
>fav model of least fav range
Windchargers from Lumineth Realm-Lords.

>LEAST fave model of fav range
Blood Pelt hunter from Ogors. He's just too lanky. Something about him just bothers me.

>>96000462
Anon you know you can look at stock of items in stores online right? Skaventide flopped as it’s available fucking everywhere at discounts as high as 30%. Do you know what a 30% discount means? They want to clear it because it isn’t selling and hasn’t sold for a long time at the regular FLGS discount of 15% here.

>>96000506
I can find gta 6 in every store did it not sell?

>>96000506
You’re really digging for this lmao.

>>95999903
What kits are those from?

>>96000376
different whitefang anon, it's also only "through the grapevine". He's had an excellent track record as of late too.

>>96000567
Some dude has been making Kickstarters about turning Bosch stuff into minis.
There's like 3 dozens of these critters.

>>96000376
Cry more faggot, he's never been wrong and you've never been right

>>95999903
>generic hero on a gargolyan monster
I was hoping for a Griffin replacement with a trad Gargoyle monster based on the early asset showcase (Zenestra's gargoyle decoration and such)

>>96000676
Thanks. They're pretty cool. You wouldn't know his name would you?

>>95998820
Don't you have greenstuff?

>>96000873
look up Andrew May Kickstarter and you should find them

>>95997312
Those stands remind me of realy long necks

>>96000376
Why are you so angry at him?

>>96001010
Man vs Reality type of fight

>>96001010
He wants to pretend Skaventide flopped because he has shares in one page rules or he's a consolewar baby acting like one GW property competes with another GW property

>>96000506
Toyota Corollas are a sales flop, you can go into any Toyota dealership and they're in stock

>>95999502
Greatswords would be cool

>>96000574
I would like to start Ogres because I do like fat fucks but the fact they have had about as much support as BoC before they were squatted makes me anxious

>>96000376
>T. Pic

shit dead game

How are people winning with Ironjawz (preferably without Kragnos)? I can't seem to win a game vs. decent players. Is the new GHB to be massively different with the new goregruntas?

>>96001286
WHFB thread is thataway ->

>>96001380
I was at my club a few minutes ago and there were maybe three dozen gruntas across all tables, so I'd guess yes

>>95991157 (OP)
Soon

>>95998631
IDK is not a low save army unless you think Seraphon is also a low save army. it effectively makes all the mounted shit 3+ except better because it stacks with all out defence

>>96001147
>limited edition box
>84 FLGS on just this app
>just in Canada
>selling below the agreed upon 15% off max from GW
Yeah skaventide is a hit. Believe through the grapevine and ignore reality. It sells so well FLGS are willing to sell it at a bigger discount than anything else because it sells so well lmao. Reality proves skaventide flopped and white fang is a retard and so are you for believing his bullshit.

>>96001540
their thread is so much more active than ours. its over

>>96002296
Did Skaventide killed your parents or something like that?

>>96002301
They just the biggest update their game is going to see for the next 12 months.

>>96002311
A rat fucked his dad and broke up his parents.

>>96002296
>>95997412

>>96002301
half of /wfb/ is shitposting about Cathay, I prefer a slower thread tyvm

>>96001262
all i can say to reassure you is that if, IF they do eventually squat ogres, then it looks like you just have a bunch of particularly tall blightkings with good skin complexion.

Boys I'm thinking it's going to be a white bo- I mean krule boy summer

>>96002857
who knew all it took was dropping all their units by 50 points each

>>96002857
They definitely look good, been playing the spearhead and having fun with it. I'm currently 2-2. Looking to get some beast killas and a breakaboss for a 1k game.

Why can't you run a Slaughterbrute in Blades of Khorne

>>96003144
Why because it's red?

>>96003182
I mean that but like they're tied to Khorne, they have the Pledged to Khorne keyword

>>95991157 (OP)
Anybody know where I can source some in-scale propellers so I can make these balloon fucks a little less retarded looking

>>96003577
Go rob the nearest 7 year old for his legos

>>96002296
Maybe if you seethe more people will play your ded game instead of something with an active player base

Gaunt Summoner for Slaves to Darkness?

>>96004025
He’s a bit too expensive atm.

>>96004025
Probably not for long, GW doesn't like cross faction units

End of edition campaigns should happen mid edition so we can say something actually happened during the edition

Can an anon with experience painting skaven share any tips or tricks? I like the dirty verdigris of the GW studio Skryre stuff, and I also like scheme they chose for said Skryre rats.

>>96004025
>>96004183
>>96004273
It seems odd to me that there aren't many cross faction units and yet the gaunt summmoner is kind of randomly in StD.

Don't get me wrong, I wish we had more soup-able units but it's really odd for the summoner to be in there. Is he just a placeholder until StD gets another wizard or something?

also, I heard that 100 points is the going rate for a balanced wizard(1) hero. Can any anons weigh in here? I'm a Big-mar nogames but I like to read through rules and warscrolls for fun.

Does any company make a good alternative to rhinox hide? Nu-Vallejo charred brown spreads like crap and seperates worse, and my current rhinox hide is pretty old and getting low so I'm looking for something by AP or Ak interactive.

>>96004567
>Is he just a placeholder until StD gets another wizard or something?
I think they just didn't have the balls to cit him yet. StD has wizards

>>96003693
Noooooop, don't post proof TOW is dead. I called it Age of Shitmar, how can I be losing?

>>96004572
mix reds or violets into brown paint

>>96004447
They usually do? 3e scrapped a series of books after Thondia which is why it felt so irrelevant
2e had a bunch of supplements dropped throughout the early-mid point

>>96004712
>mix reds into brown

>>96004728
+1 upvote
10 reddit gold has been deposited to your account for this epic post!

>>96004447
>End of edition campaigns should happen mid edition
correction: the usual 4 or 5 books of the campaign at the end of the edition should be instead equally distributed through the second and third year of the edition instead of getting rushed in the last half of a year.

You did buy ravaged coast right?

>>96004943
No but I bought the ghb.

>>96004943
I haven't bought a book made for warhammer since the 8th ed lizardmen armybook when it released.

With FEC and nighthaunt being up next on the battletome waiting list, do you think we will get anything significant?

I doubt FEC will recieve anything more than a pity hero, but I'm optimistic for nighthaunt with all the unresolved rumor engines.

>>96004963
>implying all of the unresolved rumor engines aren't for the same pity hero with multiple arms

>>96004943
it's sooo good. Really made a difference.

>>96004963
>do you think we will get anything significant?
ghosts lose hexwraiths
ghouls lose the old zombie dragon while keeping the old terrorgheist
>but why
because you will buy the 100+£ zombie draconith for the regiment of renown and you will be happy

>>96004990
I can still use the old model though

>>96004963
Soulblight just overhauled 2 kits shared with NH and FEC.
It's rather obvious to me that while SBGL takes black knights and zombie dragon, other two will go away with new Terrorghaist and Hexwraiths to split the kits for good.

>>96005001
Yeah, like you can use empty bases to proxy a unit of ghosts, good luck, cheater!

>>96005002
a cavalry unit and a big monster aren't releases GW throws around easily, especially with chaos dwarfs looming on the horizon as this half year's big release wave

>>96005010
its legal to use old model though.

>>96005010
>empty bases to proxy a unit of ghosts
Holy shit that's fucking brilliant

>>96005014
How will Terror kit be any different from the big wave monster IDK just got?

>>96005016
Not for new units, the zombie draconith regiment of renown is not the same as your royal zombie dragon.

>>96005025
the big wave monster is made in the same lower quality plastic moulds as all other faction spells/scenery pieces, it's a different kind of budget and team altogether

>>96005026
yes, it is.

>>96005041
no, it's not.

>>96005034
Source?

>>96004963
>>96005002
New hexwraiths would be a really nice surprise
Also holy shit man the new zombie dragon looks so good but it's really hard to justify 150 euros on a little plastic model man

>>96005044
I did it many times already so its perfectly legal. no one complained.

>>96005063
just because noone punished you it doesn't mean it's legal, I've killed 7 people and noone told me anything

>>96005079
its legal when the TO says so

>>96005002
I doubt we'll get hexwraiths, they're just bloat. I expect FEC to get a terrorgheist at most and more likely just a pity hero

>>96004567
>>96004273
>>96004578
The reason he’s in std is because of the lore reason that archy uses them as ways to communicate throughout the realms.

>>96005134
>they're just bloat
you would be right it they were yet another melee infantry unit in an army already full of them, but nighthaunt are really lacking in real unit variety like cavalry and monsters

>>96005171
We know the lore reason, but just because there is a lore reason for things to work together doesn't mean rules will refelct that

>>96005239
if you know the lore reason you must also know the meta reason for the lore reason: it being they were released together as the only contents of battletome: everchosen
and gw is stupidly irrationally inconsistent when it comes to respecting or amending previous standards and rule compromises

>>96005010
>you can use empty bases to proxy a unit of ghosts
>Shows up to a table with no models
BEHOLD, MY NIGHTHAUNT ARMY
KNEEL IN THE PRESENCE OF THE MORTARCH OF GRIEF

Another rules preview

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/d7dbai1r/enact-the-will-of-volturnos-or-defend-the-spirit-reefs-with-two-new-armies-of-renown/

>High Gladiatrix my beloved
I miss art like this...

>>96005272
absolute kino

>>96005270
>Deploy a 350 point model anywhere on the table in the combat phase and fight twice with it.

Cool trick. Makes for and interesting turn of events

>>96005175
Nighthaunt could greatly benefit from some armoured gosts are some monstrous infantry type units. The army is really cool but like you said is kind of one note when it comes to silhouettes.
>>96005239
great art, where's it from

>>96005353
>where's it from
1e Battletome Everchosen that added Archaon to the game had multiple pieces by that artist

>>96005270
Honestly, this looks decent. A lot less half-assed than the armies of renown we've gotten so far.

>>96005272
>>96005275
Based Thomas Elliot. He used to be in house but now freelances for GW according to his posts.

>>96005175
Dreadblade Harrow is no longer a hero and comes MSU 2
They are bloat

finished pic rel today. My brute streak continues.
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea but my primary aim is just getting them finished and presentable. I'm doing less wet blending and more rough layering. For this guy I did a 1 part medium and 2 parts Athonian camoshade wash all over the skin just to help tie it together. I think my issue was that I washed too early and too heavy instead of at the end to give my layers more cohesion

>>96005590
>Dreadblade Harrow
They are 2 and ridiculously monopose if you ever try to field them together, let alone multiple of them

>>96005737
here's the current WiP. probably gonna finish this guy tomorrow or on Sunday based on my schedule and other duties. how are the pants looking? I might do another brighter highlight over the butt

So the Skarbrand kit is half regular Bloodthirstiest, and then a different sprue for his arms, weapons, legs and wings it looks like. Does that mean that they two kits are fairly cross-compatible otherwise? Like if I wanted to give it different weapons or give the regular ones tattered wings?

>>96005737
You’re doing more and better than most people. It’s not grey and you’re learning along the way. I personally dislike wet blending, too. I just prefer glazing or setting layers and tuning the gradient.

>>96005737
looks gud anon, dont overthink paint jobs too much, when you get around to playing the game the paint jobs kinda become just background to the game. thats how i feel at least.

>>96005763
correct

>>96005823
>the exact build I wanted to make
Das it mane

>>96005814
>>96005772
thanks guys

>>96005823
why does Skarbrand look so tiny?? Was he released before the 4 greater daemons or after?

maybe he's so angry and attacked Khorne in his manlet rage

>>96005965
the bloodthirster was the first* of the greater demons to be made into a plastic kit and a lot of the sprue-space is occupied by weapon options and wings, so it can't be as big as the other demons


*technically the horned rat got his greater demons in plastic first

>>96005965
>>96005979
skarbrand and the bloodthirster(s) were the first to be made, I think the bloodthirster even released at the very end of fantasy, together with the wrathmongers and stuff.

I'm in Angelina's DMs, but I think I scared her off desu...

>>96005823
Why didn’t they just make the bloodthirster like that from the beginning? Looks so much better than leaping from the tiny flame.

>>96006439
It was made by the same wfb sculptors that made Skullreapers.
Only by AoS someone who actually likes Khorne came in to make the Slaughterpriest and co.

>>96005590
Its likely Harrows get squatted and replaced by new a Hex unit with the same aesthetic.

>>96002857
Yeah the points look really good for KB, unlike IJ. I can't make a good looking jaws list to save my life.

>>96006439
>Why didn’t they just make the bloodthirster like that from the beginning?
gw put a lot of stuff on spindly, hard to recast, swirly bits, which was the style at the time

>>96006823
They're not hard to recast (nothing injection moulded ever will be), it's just that modern tooling allowed them to be dynamic and they went for it. GW did it for style points

>>96006823
I keep forgetting that nagash came out during the end times. Silly looking fella

>>96005270
Oh Boy the power creep is already setting in.
Where is that roll a d3 on 2+ deal that much damage, they loved so much when writing indexes and the early tomes

>>96007400
its an army of renown, so it will be shit

>>96007400
I think IDK is the first book they wrote after they got feedback on how much people hated the shit d3 roll.
I don't think it's coming to be in nearly as many scrolls as before

>>96007400
You're going to call that dogshit rule powercreep? Its likely your eidolon sits in reserve the entire game.

>>96007432
The Volturnos One seems good. But I forgot, do army of renown get the base army abilities? Or you are losing tides to get those abilities?

>>96007905
regular army abilities are replaced
and unit choices are restricted

>>96008045
Ok then I retract what I said.

Juggernauts are bigger than a regular horse of course, but what about the riders? Skullcrushers aren't exactly a recent kit.

>absolutely nothing for the 10th anniversary of AoS
oof

>>96005737
>>96005751
love Orcs in jeans

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