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>>96034131 (OP)
https://imgchest.com/p/wl7l25qwp4x

https://imgchest.com/p/bp455j9qq45

>>96034131 (OP)
I remember seeing a Dark Element spell wip that has this exact same art, does anybody have it?

So I look it up on the archives, and found it under "Dark Element" filename in 4plebs.
Sadly I'm range banned so I can't post pics, I'd appreciate if someone would.

>>96034260
Can you link it?

>>96034260
>>96034266
Nvmd, I can't read, is it this one?

>>96034273
Damn, you posted before me.

Anyway, looks like a page of A Bit More Effort.

>>96034273
>>96034283 (me)
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/61539742/#q61540885
It is indeed. Found the original post.

>>96034296
Also, the cyao has changed since then, it operates on different rules now, so I don't think we can use this page to play, only to know some lore that may and probably have changed by now.

>>96034304

>>96034311

>>96034311
>HunterXHunter
Gross AND disgusting.

>Setting is a continent sized island separated from a pangea sized mainland.
I'm trying to get an idea of how many pople it would make sense to have living in the island
I think maybe a couple billion would make sense?
With around a billion beastmen.
But how many demigods would it make sense to be there to govern most if not all of the continent?
I think that maybe around a thousand?

>>96034364
Depends on the technology level and the degree of centralization. The population seems to high for a pre-industrial society, and the number of demigods per capita seems too low. To rule a people of 1 million would have been a great empire back then.

>>96034364
Depends on the tech level and climate.
Plentiful food and high tech/magic? Yeah.
Deserts and/or medieval? It took until the industrial revolution to human population reach 1 billion IIRC.

>>96034273
Yup that's it, thanks anon. Idk if Liminal made or if its just a fan addon. But it has some seriously badass Dark magic spells. Curiously splits dark magic into three branches; Gravity Magic, Mind Magic and Blood Magic. The Shadow Magic we seen in the cyoa is treated as just a subsidiary branche of the Dark Element.

>>96034439

>>96034444

>>96034455

>>96034461

>>96034439
>multiplayer mhaslop
don't pollute our thread with this shit, take your trash and fuck off back to/mcyoag/

>>96034465

>>96034473

>>96034305
>the cyao has changed since then, it operates on different rules now, so I don't think we can use this page to play, only to know some lore that may and probably have changed by now.
that's true, but seeing how scarce BMEI content is already is. I'll take any scraps I can get.

>>96034479

>>96034486

>>96034439
this is kino

>>96034379
>Depends on the technology level and the degree of centralization. The population seems to high for a pre-industrial society, and the number of demigods per capita seems too low. To rule a people of 1 million would have been a great empire back then.
The tech level will range from pre-modern away from city centers to a glorious marvel of sorcerous infrastructure in a capital populated by millions if I do this it will be structured like rome otherwhise It will be dotted by greek style city states each ruled by bands of allied demigods.
I'm not sure what would be more interesting.

>>96034383
As for the climate It would be a of a temperate climate a bit colder to the nort and tropical to the south.
Something basic.

As for the demigods I don't want them to be so numerous as to allow them to become invincible and conquer pangea it is supposed to be a dark setting after all, but most will likely be busy dealing with stray monsters coming from there, putting down insurrections and fighting one another or devils being born among the population so that might be enough to rationalize why they haven't done it yet.

>>96034496
It just feels like a power picker since there isn't any real big goal or original storyline. Without that it feels like it would be better to make your own Donut Steel in your head.

>>96034532
Silly anon, we don't need an Adventure when we got Power.
At best we'd add Waifus and call it a day.

>>96034512
Even if there wasn't magitek or whatever going on, you could justify it with goblin equivalents having population booms and thos causing tension with the less plentiful races.

>>96034318
how much is tier 4 aura pool and can you train to get better or are those levels your maximum?

>>96034131 (OP)
>>96034273
>Dark/Shadow magic is canonically the strongest magic.
This will finally shut up
Watersissies.

>The three main antagonist of the CYOA are the Avatars of the three deities overseeing fate of the world.
>All three hate you because you are a Paradox, something outside the design of the world that just popped in out of nowhere like all the Paradoxes before you.
>They want to murder you and erase you from the world before you ruin it, but they also want to ride it while you are yapping.
>You are actually a tumor made from the deities suppressed desire mixed with the errors of their system given a fleshy form.
>You go around undoing the Avatars and Deities did in the world and rewriting endings to fates.
That's all I got

>>96034532
That's because it was made by and for the retarded RPers over at mcyoag. In fact its their most popular cyoa, they still post it and the build list in every thread till this day.

>>96034553
>with goblin equivalents having population booms and thos causing tension with the less plentiful races.
That's kind of what the devils do they warp people into or create monsters and can be extremely dangerous if left alone to fester.
Even worse they crop up without warnings all the time.

>>96034148
>Card:
Lilim

>Augments:
Stat 3, Life 3 (18), Body 1, Family Reputation 4, Demonic Heritage 1, Bodyguard 1, Creative, Focus, Tower Grimoire - Knowledge -> Tower Grimoire - Gate -> Tower Grimoire - Life

>Stats:
Strength: 5
Constitution: 5
Dexterity: 4
Agility: 5
Intelligence: 8
Charisma: 6
Magic: 8
Resistance: 0
Learning Rate: 11

>>96034273
>>96034622
wtf watersisters when's our tier 2 page coming out?

>>96031849
Based anti-tech GOD.

>>96034623
Reminds me of blackbirds.
It is a setting where the old gods have recently been murdered by humans with a ritual that transformed them into basically the godhand from berserk.
The last gods to die were the fates and upon their death strands of their tapestry of fate blessed seemingly random people with power to influence destiny who are now subject to a prophecy that no one has ever heard of.
The world is now in the hands of the god hand who will likely be opposed by the blackbirds(that are practically guts).
But no one knows what the end game is it could be that the fates are just petty and wish to use the blackbirds to destroy the god hand regardless of the consequences or it could be that the gods could be resurrected.

>>96034731
breedable

>>96034148
>Card:
Kukla

>Augments:
Stat 1, Life 1, Body 1, Aura 5 (16), Talent 7, Etching 1, Etching 2, Etching 3, Etching 8 (Magic), Etching 13

Etching 8: You have full knowledge of any subject to extents 100 years beyond the understanding of modern Humans.

>Stats:
Strength: 3
Constitution: 4
Dexterity: 9
Agility: 10
Intelligence: 9
Charisma: 4
Magic: 10
Resistance: 3
Learning Rate: 11

>>96034148
>Card:
Majokko

Always stay transformed to remove vulnerability (the familiar).

>Augments:
Stat 4, Life 1 (15), Body 3, Style 6, Caster Focus (Palm Tattoos), Gravity, Glowing Eyes

As long as I obtain enough mana to bind a minion forever and regenerate a hit of damage using less mana than the style 6 costume provides, i will have achieved nigh self sufficiency. Freedom and the right to stop killing through bondage and killing, ironic.

>Stats:
Strength: 4
Constitution: 6
Dexterity: 5
Agility: 5
Intelligence: 8
Charisma: 5
Magic: 11 (Offensive 7, Healing 14, Utility/Mobility 16)
Resistance: 3
Learning Rate: 5
Mana Pool: 245

Egyptian cyoas...

>>96035618
The best I can do is Surinicalslop.

>>96035672

>>96034131 (OP)
Reposting build. Suggestions for my last Event? I hope year 2 will let me generate some passive income with pickpocketing like you can with one of the trades or other jobs. Also waifu/husbando options.

Speaking of Followers/Companions, how many does the cyoa have? What's the max amount you could take? Adis, Inari, Maeli and Nenlu. Am I forgetting anyone?

Year One
Introduction: Gutter Trash
Coins: 0
EP: 8
Other: Street Smarts, Stealth
>"Cold, hungry and scared. I had to get my wits about me quicker than I thought I could"

Month's 1 - 4: Rough Cut
Coins: 3
EP: 3
Other: Pick Pocketing

Stats: Agility 3, Perception 3, Charisma 3, Constitution 2, Logic 1, Empathy 1
Skills: Street Smarts, Stealth
Items: Rags, Bhadin's Rations, Abandoned Buildings
>"I'm lucky someone took pity on me. If it wasn't for Bhadin taking me under his wing I'm sure I would have died on the streets or in some back alley sooner rather than later. As it stands I'm learning his trade and anything he can tell me about this city, this world. Things are looking up.

Month's 5 - 8: Stranger (Outcome 1)
Coins: 0
EP: 6
Other: Special (Sight Beyond Sight)

Stats: Agility 5, Perception 3, Charisma 3, Constitution 2, Logic 2, Empathy 2
Skills: Street Smarts, Stealth, Pick Pocketing, Acrobatics
Items: Abandoned Buildings, Rags, Moderate Quality Food (5 Years), Cheap Clothing, 1 gold
>"I'm not proud of what I do to survive but food in my belly and clothes on my back go a long way in quieting my conscience. Perhaps it was these silenced misgivings that compelled me to act upon seeing that creature behalf. Another stranger in a strange land. Paying forward the kindness Old Bhadin showed me. I didn't expect it to pay off like it did. I still have much to learn about this world"

>>96035618
>>96035672
Italics promised us brown kitty goddess pussy. Then just vanished.

>>96034131 (OP)
>cool setting and lore
>can't interact with any of it because you're a shitter too busy surviving
Equivalent of an Indonesian learning all about the British Empire while working as a garbage collector living in a slum and slowly dying of indigestion. Irrelevant to your situation. In truth the cyoa needs less lore and more options.

>>96035739
Rough Cut is shit. It combos to no other event and doesn't give anything that remotely makes that worth it. Any other event is better.

>>96035777
Don't you have anything else to do than to make shit up to disparage a cyoa?

>>96035784
But my bro Bhadin tho.

Your right in that comboing is limited but it's a very flavorful option.

>>96035739
Your good options are... Military and Dragis. All the others need a previous chaining event or being a woman to be good/takeable. Your stats are mostly physical, so I suggest Military.

>>96034131 (OP)
Corrected the error about The Blue Gift.
>Introduction: Ritual
Other: Sae

>Flower 1
Items: Abandoned Building, Rags
Other: Sae(specialized)
There's no way to complete Sae and have a source of food, so we'll kill and eat a few people. The thieves from Flower would be a good start without attracting attention.

>Stranger 2
Stats: Logic 4, Perception 1, Remaining XP 1
Items: Abandoned Building, Rags
Other: Sae(specialized), Sight Beyond Sight
We will, again, kill and eat the homeless. My new aura sensing and life detection will make avoiding guards far easier.

>Dragis 2
Stats: Logic 5, Perception 2
Skills: Street Smarts
Items: Moderate Quality Food, Apartment, Cheap Clothing
Other: Lesser Spark of Magic, Sae(specialized), Sight Beyond Sight
Finally. I am no longer a naked lunatic eating other homeless people. I've obtained a Lesser Spark of Magic, which is important as it's not explicitly stated Sae can study to improve. Street Smarts will vastly improve my future return to hunting the homeless.

>Stay Outside(neutral conversion): Eyes(even brighter blue), Masculine, Ear
Merging with Sae obviously has many downsides, but I NEED MOAR POWER and returning to the life of a homeless cannibal is an acceptable price.
Didn't prevent "a certain event", so maybe I'm screwed.
Ideally, in year 2 I'd gain a Greater Spark and master Shadow Ray to use The Black Gift on my victims. It might be necessary to kill members of the Shadow and Flame for implements and black sand, but given that Sae can act as an implement I'd assume not. If it is, though, Sight Beyond Sight would make it trivially easy to locate the weakest among them. Of course, the cult most likely has similarly powerful divination.

>>96036010
>kill and eat a person
>immediately reported as "heretical demons" (completely correct) and hunted down
suicide speedrun build

>>96034131 (OP)
>tfw anons like a CYOA you have zero interest in

>>96034131 (OP)
>>96029325 (me)
>>96029422 (me)
After much thought and internal debate, I have determined that you don't get the teacher and Nawar if Baraqu takes you in.
Evidence 1: Both of their text are immediately after the paragraph of what Baraqu does if he doesn't take you in.
Evidence 2: You already get a tutor.
Evidence 3: If sheltered in Baraqu's Palace in the Year End Event, he can give access to air magic. This wouldn't make sense if you already have an air magic teacher.

In conclusion, I need to fix my build.

>>96036088
happens to all of us. now you shitpost and kill time until anons talk about cyoa you like

Should magic be directed fireballs or spontaneous combustions? One is a lot more survivable than the other.

>>96036189
Depends on whether you want to make martials cry or not.

>>96036228
True Martials are too strong to cry.

>>96035872
>All the others need a previous chaining event or being a woman to be good/takeable
Ascension, Baraqu and Dragis do seem like the best options if you had taken previous choices. But even without their chaining events they still do offer decent rewards.

I would like to think that Plague and 1177245771 have year 2 payoffs. Especially with the 'Attention of a Minor Noble' you get from volunteering. Even Success by itself nets you a decent chunk of change and a magical(?) artifact. Still definitely not as good as if you and Aquad are bro's.

Military service does offer some pretty tangible benefits. 5xp worth of stats/skills, 4xp and 8g or 12g if you take Navy or Vanguard respectively with poor Guardsmen only getting 4. Plus you get some other benefits like sailing knowledge, fear resistance or intimate knowledge on the layout of the city.

Guard may seem a bit weak compared to the other two but it is also the safest. It also gives you most of the skills needed to purchase Wilderness Survival which will let you hunt for food with a relatively cheap permit. Being in the Guard means you could probably also get away with not paying the gate tax on what you hunt.

Might go Navy. Perhaps there'll be a qt cabin boy I can take in and show the ropes to.
>inb4 I am the cabin boy

>>96036088
As >>96036147 said, it happens. But it has gotten me to take a look at and get really in to cyoa's I had otherwise turned my nose up. Like this one and Spirit Cultivator for example.

>>96036115
Which build?

>>96036010
I hope Surinical adds reference in Year 2 to a lunatic hunting and eating the homeless.

>>96036252
>Surinical
...

>>96035752

>>96036088
You could always drag the post quality. I hear sovereign gayposting is in vogue.

https://imgur.com/a/jaY4WVi

>>96034131 (OP)
So question, if I meet Inanis and deliver her letter to her, she will later betray me and turn me into a woman?

>>96034131 (OP)
Is the exotic slave girl you've got to trade for The Recitation of Sanathael Maeli?

>>96036252
>Dragis
I'd argue that he's worse if you chain his event. You need to get a spark and give him the cobalt tome for just access to mind magic and incur massive costs:
1. Taking the cobalt tome specifically for this has the opportunity cost of not chaining the intro with anything else.
2. To gain a spark before meeting him, you need to have done the Djinn quest, which means you're part of the Isatum cult. Siding with Dragis is betrayal. The description says that people don't know, but I'm suspicious of whether you really escape scot-free. Let's say you do - you still lose the opportunity for Ascension, which is not only about fire magic and position, but 10, TEN whole exp and two gold vs Dragis giving only 2 exp and zero gold.

On the other hand, if you don't chain his event and become a Shadow Servant, you can gain a spark and a wand (worth 6 coins), learn shadow magic, 5 gold, and 2 exp.

The difference is crazy.

>Which build?
>>96022266
I'm still not sure about >>96029264.

>Surinical
Anon... Liminal Phrenic made the cyoa.

>>96034131 (OP)
It seems like Isatum is a shitty God, since if you join him to rank up you need to take part in death games. Sana is slightly better but only open to women, still the Shadow Priestesses at least do things for the city.

>>96036372
probably. she's a failed daughter of sana, those cant be common

>>96036405
>Sana is slightly better

>>96036372
Or Nenlu.

>>96036405
>be a goon for a cult and participate in death games
>become a healslut whore for an evil goddess on threat of death
>get genderbended and groomed into a weird perverted mans exotic water bride
Man the magic routes are brutal.

>>96036438
I'm not a woman though. Isatum's cult does nothing besides take in money and people who join have to kill each other to get promoted, you can never be comfortable in your position.
The shadow priestesses however give me free food. It sucks that women are sometimes sacrificed. Also there is a difference between the God and the cult. I do wonder how Sana decides which women will be her daughters, which to kill, and which become shadow priestesses?

>>96036272
>>96036396
>Surinical
Fuck, I meant Liminal.

That's what I get for being in a rush.

>Dragis
>Chaining His events
>His events
I actually meant chaining an event that gave you standing with the Flame and Shadow, so you could reap a greater reward for turning Dragis in.

>>96022266 (Cross-thread)
Ah, nice, nice.

>>96036358
I don't think it's mandatory to choose that event?

Speaking of, it's funny if you meet her during the intro and then she becomes your teacher when you turn Dragis in.

>>96036468
Speaking of the Cults and their shitty Gods, I kinda want to make a build where I retire to the countryside and start praying at the ruins of the other temples to the gods of Earth and Water.

>>96036460
Can we stop with the Baraqu slander? He is loyal to his friends, is concerned about your health and situation, properly courts you for a long time with gifts and affection, never forces you to do anything, gives you great benefits even if he doesn't plan on marrying you (the routes where he doesn't take you in, man or woman), and opposes the evil cults.

Baraqu is the nicest, most righteous, and most chivalrous person in the whole city. He deserves respect.

>>96036528
>I actually meant chaining an event that gave you standing with the Flame and Shadow, so you could reap a greater reward for turning Dragis in.
Dang.

Yea, the chain for turning Dragis in is pretty good. Although it doesn't grant as much benefits as some of the other chains, it is one of the only chains that is quite safe and doesn't make you a woman.

Risk-reward, cost-benefit. What a great cyoa.

>>96034131 (OP)

I'm glad everyone seems to be enjoying the image despite its flaws.

>>96034273

This has some relation to A Little Bit More Effort. It actually came first. It was more of a test run, not a final concept, for how magic might work as it progressed.

>>96035739
>>96035872

I always liked the Dragis event. I love the concept of the military stuff, but I don't think I brought it to life particularly well.

>>96036712
> Although it doesn't grant as much benefits as some of the other chains

This is a good point. In some ways I prefer the Dragis event to how I handled some of the others. Maybe I should just be more reserved in the chains like that, overall. Not sure. Something to consider at least.

-

I also noticed someone reposted it on reddit. I won't be posting over there. As to why, as some noted my posts are purged. I did not purge my reddit account, nor, to my knowledge, am I banned over there. I'm not much of a rule breaker, and I've never looked into why, but I'll assume I did something wrong without realizing it rather than pointing fingers and leave it at that.

>>96036893
Is >>96034148 the most up to date version of the dark city? If not, can you post the latest version please?

Also, questions from the previous thread.
>>96027606
>>96027643
>>96027708
>>96029264
>>96030257
>>96030938
>>96031536

>>96036893
>>96037120
Another question: If merged with Sae, would we still need an implement to cast spells or would Sae be the implement?

>>96036893
>Maybe I should just be more reserved in the chains like that, overall.
Please don't. I love the constant weighing of risk-reward and cost-benefit of each choice. I believe it to be crucial to the experience, quality, and setting of the cyoa. To gain, one must first give! Even the relatively "safe and stable" have sacrifice, sacrifice in opportunity cost!

A few chains being relatively "safe and stable" is good, but the cyoa as a whole shouldn't be that way.

On this note, the Trade and other money options need to be buffed. Perhaps not so much directly as the problem isn't that the options themselves aren't numerically good, but that there aren't enough good items for them to buy (especially when basically all special items correspond to other chains).

Also, some things in the cyoa are really overpriced. The short sword costing 10 coins is craaazy. It's basically impossibly to justify buying that when the cost of other weapons are much cheaper, notably the spear(s).

A few matters about skills (and spells) are a little overpriced too. I think specialization should be lowered to 3 EXP; it being the same price as mastery doesn't feel right. Search costing 8 is way too high. It should cost 2-4 and have a perception requirement.

Connected to skills, charisma has no skills associated with it, and empathy is pretty much playing only second fiddle to other stats in requirements.

remember the days when the files were hosted on mega?

>>96034148
Cambiare and Majokko have the stats explanation if some didn't notice.
Both have the same texts but Majokko got a few more lines about 0 and 11 being as far as stats can go.

>isekai cyoa
>(you) being an isekaiee is completely irrelevant to the cyoa, it could be rewritten as (you) being a native with minimal changes
Why is this so prevalent? Self insert purposes?

Multi-armed lamiae, or two-armed lamiae?

>>96037760
The character knows as little as the audience, has no past interactions, and is usually representative of the audience. So yes.

>>96037315
We didn't have enough monstergirls back then.

>>96037771
>representative of the audience
Charismatic, suave, good-looking, 300 IQ, woman magnet and making meaningful choices IRL?

>>96037120
It's the most up to date complete version, but there are a couple pages floating around from a WIP update(never getting finished). It uses new rules and additional stats, so they aren't really usable at present without the intro page.

>>96038004
It's a WIP. It's useless to post it now.

>>96038004
Why the fuck would you post this? The discussion on the update hasn't even started yet, and I wanted to wait until it was over and ask MiCha if he minded first.

>>96038014
Sometimes people post random WIPs from the Discord. Reacting emotionally will just give the vultures more reasons to rile you up.

It sounds like a fun concept, at least.

>>96038014
>discussion on the update
bro we never saw this there is no discussion

>>96038023
The update of Isekai Dark Overlord, by MiCha.

>>96038023
He's from a faraway place, Anon. Where authors go to die. Where people lose their anonymous mantles to become Named, burdened by the weight of consequences and accountability.

>>96038031
R*ddit?

>>96038052
Nope. They're the barbarian scavengers of our kingdoms, not the haughty cousins lost to decadence and discord.
Hm. The medieval map of cyoag/makeyourchoicee/Discord is fun to imagine. I wonder if there is a CYOA about that concept. Perhaps add an underground kindgom for /trash/...?

>>96038064
There is.

>>96038082

>>96038004
>technology has been forced to return to a level comparable ot the middle ages-
Nah, scrap the CYOA. It's shit.

>>96038004
Cool!

Saint
Aura
Disciples
Harmony

I wonder how long I can go with just the 3 starting points.

>>96038126
Rape and impregnate.

>>96038029
Mic was talking about August, no? Truthfully, I don't know where anon found your WIP, but it was a bit naive to think it wouldn't end up in the thread after a few days/weeks.

>>96038004
Bright Overlord sounds better than Light Overlord.

>>96038131
Why are you obsessed with rape?

>>96038170
High T male

>>96038082
>>96038088
My sword belongs to the Namefag Factions!
Great men like EntropistAnon, MiCha, and Rake are all that stands between CYOAs and total devastation through famine and drought. Only together can we reclaim our world and make CYOAs greater than ever thought possible!!!

>>96038004
I like the premise, and look forward to the complete version!

>>96036372
>The Recitation of Sanathael
Isn't Sanathael just Sana's full name?

>>96038344
good eye
more liminal lore is deciphered

>>96036405
>It seems like Isatum is a shitty God, since if you join him to rank up you need to take part in death games.
From a purely pragmatic perspective, it actually genius. It ensures only the best of the best become high ranking flame priests.
>>96036529
>Baraqu is the nicest, most righteous, and most chivalrous person in the whole city. He deserves respect.
Damn bro, you've already fallen for him. Baraqu's rizz is legendary.

>>96034131 (OP)
One crucial aspect of this cyoa that I don't see discussed at all, is that you get isekai's with your real body, which most anons seen to just gloss over. How (You) look irl is extremely important in the cyoa, at least in the beginning. Pahl Edians have light to golden brown skin, dark hair, and blue (rare but favoured color) to brown eyes.
So if you are pale white, black or asian you are going to attract attention, good & bad. East-asiatic features in particular are straight up stigmatized because they are similar to this world's slave caste.
But the single most dangerous feature you could have is blonde hair. Imitating Raedaia's golden hair and eyes is punishable by painful death. So I'm afraid blonde bros are fucked. My advice is to shave and dye it ASAP after arrival.

>>96038004
Finally, something to look forward to

>>96038004
kino is back on the menu boys

>>96038421
So what you're telling me is Italics won. Again.

>>96038517
>italics out of nowhere
You need help.

>share my genuine opinion
>everyone thinks im baiting and shitposting
cyoas for this feel

>>96038590
Any CYOA, as long as you give opinions in the same way one would shitpost.
I'd recommend Dragonfall myself, well-worn classic, even if waifu ranting is popular now so Entropist might be ideal.

>>96038625
How do you give your genuine, unfiltered opinion in a non-shitpost way?

>>96038640
In this irony-poisoned abode?
Meh. Probably lay off the sacarsm, irony and name-calling. Structure your opinion to avoid parroting shitposts by mistake. Try to search if someone else held the same speech in the past - sounding repetitive is also a fast-track to shitposting.

I still don't understand why you would do it.

>>96038082
>>96038277
Where are the oldfag authors?

>>96038421
That's a good point and something I've often wondered on.

I'd definitely look exotic but more odd than anything that might be offensive. Will need to work on my tan.

Part of the reason I take Rough Cut is that it essentially gives you a guide if not a friend to show you the ropes.

Echoes psy...

>>96038912
What is with some Italicsfags and their obsession with Echoes? What drives them to like it? Is ir the highschool girls?

>>96038170
coomer neural scarring

>>96034131 (OP)
What does the Slave Collar and Lapis Lazuli ring from the Slave intro do? also I feel it way too little coin and experience compared to the abuse you'll experience.

>>96036302
>Dark Sissy is still passive aggressively sulking

No one can beat my Danmachi build

>>96039310
I can. The winning move is not to play.

>>96039288
No idea. There's a couple options that give drastically little tangible benefit, like that intro and volunteering with the plague but give you a vague something like "You've attracted the attention of a minor Noble" that may or may not have use or payoff in year 2.

But if you look at the other options you generally get around 10 Gold/XP worth of hard points, gear or abilities. Whereas the Slave intro only gives you 5. 5 points and the Collar and ring.

>>96038381
Being good at killing faggots, does not mean you would be a good high priest. I mean if the choice for a high priest is between an old man who can't fight anymore but knows alot and can read and write, and chad thundercock who can't read and write but can fuck people up. Maybe the old guy is the better choice.

>>96039310
Combat 3 beats everything bro

>>96038004
Incredibly kino, I'm looking forward to experiencing the full release.

>>96039310
Link it

>>96039364
Spirit 3 beats Combat 3 if it lands

>>96039338
>I mean if the choice for a high priest is between an old man who can't fight anymore but knows alot and can read and write, and chad thundercock who can't read and write but can fuck people up. Maybe the old guy is the better choice.
That's where you're wrong. The high rank matches are magical more than physical.
In this scenario, the wise and knowledgeable old man would be the one to fuck up the inexperienced brute chad thundercock. Also I feel people are overreacting about the deadliness of the cult contest. First of all, its only held every six years, second only the lowest level matches are to the death, the higher ranks just get demoted instead.

>>96038117
There is a Technology enhancing power THOUGH

>>96038088
All will fall before the might of the lewd chads.
CUM FOR THE GOON GOD!
RAPE FOR THE RAPE THRONE!

Sorcery and machinery are the same

Welp, just about ready with Isekai Dark Overlord v1.1. Unless these specializations have something crucial wrong or missing, I might release it soonish.

So, I changed the specializations a bit from the previous wip, and the main form descriptions are now pretty much same as in v1.0 (except Sorcerer where the half-assed magic pick is handled by specialization). Would a perk that lets you choose a specialization from a different form instead of your own be a good idea? It doesn't give an extra pick, just unlocks more options.

Otherwise there's a few new perks, drawbacks, and races (like fae & fallen angels). The dwarves and elves also had a divorce.

There are new medium and elite units (couple new crafter units, evil paladin equivalent, anti-large elite, fake priest, magic archer, etc.) and you get more unit points, but I'm adjusting the costs for elites to be about x2 as much as before (since it was odd that your fancy elite unlock costs the same as a half-retarded basic unit...).

There's one sea / island based starting location with bit more info on the goddess of fortune. I could add one more there, I suppose, though writing them is pain so maybe not.

>>96038014
I don't mind, on a glance it seems well made.

>>96038014
>posting your wip on discord
LOL I remember when I first posted one of Gil’s wips… “hey man put it back!”. So adorable…

>>96038004
This reminds me of that time someone made a ‘white magic’ cyoa to counterbalance the black magic cyoa.

>>96039414
IF IT LANDS, yes, it won’t land, obviously, not unless your opponent is a slow ass bitch who can’t run.

Is imitation the greatest form of flattery, or the greatest form of insult?

>>96039650
Correct. That's why you can't have magic in my CYOA.
Only women can use magic while men build machines.

>all this discussion of liminal kino when I was like the only one for years to ever even bring them up or even post them
Feels good, but, you’re all still new fags compared to me

>>96039669
Don't let the bugtranny see this...

>>96039694
>thinking magic isn’t some machine
Men/wizards are the magic makers

There’s like three underwater mermaid cyoas and they’re all clearly inspirations of one another

>>96039698
oldfag can you enlighten us about some hidden/cyoag/ lore?

>>96039704
Yeah men are makers of machines as they are right brained.
Women are creation as left brained they need no scientific approach to bring their dreams to reality they do it instinctually.

Whether a remake or spinoff of a cyoa is well received depends on who’s receiving it

>>96039731
Okay, but the reason why women can do magic at all is because of some ancient wizard(male) building the magic machine.

>>96039732
I will spit on your unimaginative ass anyway.

>Reddit remakes 4chan classic
“Omg someone kill that tranny please”
>4chan remakes 4chan classic
“This is acceptable”

It’s only okay when we do it

>>96039765
This. 100%

>>96039669
>Welp, just about ready with Isekai Dark Overlord v1.1. Unless these specializations have something crucial wrong or missing, I might release it soonish.
That's exciting to hear! I always enjoy how much more challenging your CYOAs are than most.

>So, I changed the specializations a bit from the previous wip, and the main form descriptions are now pretty much same as in v1.0 (except Sorcerer where the half-assed magic pick is handled by specialization).
These specializations are all very enticing. I don't think there's a single one of them I wouldn't enjoy exploiting. Nemesis and Primordial are particularly interesting takes on their core theme. I like how Nemesis is incentivized to be enigmatic and let his opponents damage them. I notice there's an additional three for the bottom three forms, which is delightful. It's tricky coming up with ideas for things like this.

>Would a perk that lets you choose a specialization from a different form instead of your own be a good idea? It doesn't give an extra pick, just unlocks more options.
That sounds like it could be interesting. At the same time, it is a permanent expenditure of your potential for a different starting point. Maybe it could also improve your future versatility? For example, a Conqueror choosing Reaper could find Shadow-related abilities easier to develop later on. Multi-faceted perks and drawbacks are always fascinating.

>Otherwise there's a few new perks, drawbacks, and races (like fae & fallen angels).
Nice. The race list was one of the parts I spent the most time thinking over.

>The dwarves and elves also had a divorce.
Damn, I wonder which of them got custody...

>>96039765
Yes.

>>96039778
>There are new medium and elite units (couple new crafter units, evil paladin equivalent, anti-large elite, fake priest, magic archer, etc.) and you get more unit points,
Very intriguing. I hope this contributes to build diversity.

>but I'm adjusting the costs for elites to be about x2 as much as before (since it was odd that your fancy elite unlock costs the same as a half-retarded basic unit...).
I did think that was kind of strange. This all seems really well thought out all-around.

>There's one sea / island based starting location with bit more info on the goddess of fortune. I could add one more there, I suppose, though writing them is pain so maybe not.
Sea raiders stay winning. Thank you for letting us know about your progress, MiCha, I haven't reposted as much as the insect-hybrid poster (HE SHOULD FUCK THE BUGS, FUCK THE REAL BUGS, NOT THE FAKE ONES), but I seriously appreciate the work you've put into this.

>>96039731
This is what happens when an autist starts reading women's dating profiles.

Women: I feel
Men: I think

>>96039816
You'd say the same thing, hypocrite

>>96039743
>spit on ass
hot...

>>96039823
Im not sure what youre trying to say. When a women says shes a mermaid fairy witch I dont actually take it seriously.

>>96039741
It's the other way around: a woman created the spiritual infrastructure necessary for men to use something similar to natural magic

>>96039841
But that’s just admitting it’s all a machine built by a male brained woman.

>>96039841
Duh, that's how childbirth works. Men all spent 8-9 months inside of a woman's womb before they could do magic.

>>96039669
>Welp, just about ready with Isekai Dark Overlord v1.1. Unless these specializations have something crucial wrong or missing, I might release it soonish.
Based nice.
>Would a perk that lets you choose a specialization from a different form instead of your own be a good idea? It doesn't give an extra pick, just unlocks more options.
I don't think that's necessary, but a perk that lets you pick a second specialization and add it (whether from others, or just from your main) would be really good.
>Otherwise there's a few new perks, drawbacks, and races (like fae & fallen angels). The dwarves and elves also had a divorce.
That's cool, but I hope there's a slight race point increase to go along with this, if there's four-to-five new races. Even just one more point would be good.
>There are new medium and elite units (couple new crafter units, evil paladin equivalent, anti-large elite, fake priest, magic archer, etc.) and you get more unit points
Great!
>but I'm adjusting the costs for elites to be about x2 as much as before
Fucked honestly, don't do that.
>There's one sea / island based starting location with bit more info on the goddess of fortune. I could add one more there, I suppose, though writing them is pain so maybe not.
Don't add any other locations if you don't want to, I'm sure what you've got is fine.

Excited for everything. I understand the elite cost increase is probably to disincentivize people from taking elitist, which is a good mindset, but... I don't know, increasing point cost for elites doesn't sound very good, unless you're bumping points to something like 25. 20 wont be enough, especially with the new changes and the fact that 15 wasn't enough for most people with the current roster. My opinion is, if you're doubling points for elites, make current unit points 25 at least. Other than that, looks great, glad to hear you're working on it.

>>96039669
Curses aren't a focus anymore unfortunately, I don't care about the rest of the hierophant powerset so I think l will go Creator or Shadow for my 1.1 build.

Is it normal for titan, tyrant & conqueror to have 3 specializations will the others form have 4 ?

>>96039919
All men were women in the womb originally. Men are technically speaking superior versions of women, no longer women, created to keep the race going.

>>96039841
>he thinks magic isn’t natural even when it’s “unnatural”
Never going to make it.

>>96039948
It is natural for women; men were unknowingly given their powers by a woman.
>>96039913
Maybe she did have the foresight to build herself an army for the long haul.
Even after becoming a husk, Dark Souls style.

Feelings first, logic third, is what’s killing the western world at present. The west is one big giant woman. You’re supposed to temper emotions with reason. Not just let them run wild. Outrage culture is cancer.

>>96039965
Nope. There is order even to chaos. Men made magic. Women jump head first into emotion without seeing the logic behind it or the reason for it. The male is always further behind the curtain than the female and that’s just a fact. An alien(male) allowed the woman the tools to do a thing. Cope.

>>96039978
Shut the fuck up.

>>96039986
>being treated this way
H-hot...

>>96039985
Don’t misgender the alien you bigot

These tangents are rarely interesting, because you can quickly guess how one-sided the discussion is - because there are no women to give a solid counter.
On the flipside it's perhaps better. Otherwise we'd have thread-spanning discussions about the merits and failures of both genders instead of those quick reruns.

>>96039778
Thanks!

>Maybe it could also improve your future versatility?
I'll see if I can fit in a boost, perhaps something like a learning boost from having varied skills.

>>96039926
>unless you're bumping points to something like 25
Yeah I'm thinking 25 too.

>>96039936
>Is it normal for titan, tyrant & conqueror to have 3 specializations
I had trouble coming up with a 4th for those, so I didn't try to force it.

>>96039986
This but also for this entire gender magic discussion

Women: “the sun orbits the earth because they’re in love haha”

Men: “The sun doesn’t orbit the earth lol”

>>96039942
Men are not superior version of women, they are complementary version of women. A superior version wouldn't need the inferior version intrinsically to live, reproduce and satisfy his needs.
The same can be said about women.

Men are superior!
And women are superior!
Are both stupid arguments made by people that want to feel better about something they supposedly won by merely being born in a certain way. Just like every race looks for a way or advantage to feel better compared to the rest.
Grow up

>>96040021
Men are quite literally superior. They’re responsible for quite literally everything. A world without men would be a lot worse than a world without women.

>>96039985
The woman loved her father-husband, creating the pervasive idea of the skyfather that leads and protects civilization, so she offered her gifts to men to lead instead of women like herself once she sat on the throne of the heavens.

>>96040015
Shush, we're not yet speaking of Elden Ring.

>>96040039
There’s no proof that women are better at magic than men in ER either

>>96040042
Could you elaborate on that my good sir?

>>96040012
>I had trouble coming up with a 4th for those, so I didn't try to force it.
NTA but my initial gut reaction is "some of these classes have less specializations, which means they're weaker!" but I also acknowledge that's also not really the case.

>>96040027
>They’re responsible for quite literally everything
False, both, women and men, have some works were they overepresent.
>A world without men would be a lot worse than a world without women.
Ignoring how both worlds would simply die in a single generation.
Men stadistically are more aggressive, and prone to commit crimes. So what exactly would make that world better? "We do SCIENCE and have GUNS!" Okay, now, use an actual argument. The great majority of problematic people in the world, and that I have met, are men. Imagine a society full of sexless men. Yeah...

>>96040042
Don’t start this again please.

Finally... all the art i've been accruing while waiting to remake my image build will come to fruition...

>>96040021
This is the correct take. Btw, men and women are complementary.
Realizing this is how the cycle of suffering ends.

>>96040012
>Thanks!
You are a big inspiration to me, as an anon and as an author.

>I had trouble coming up with a 4th for those, so I didn't try to force it.
That's reasonable. The only thing that comes to mind you haven't covered is a relatively diminutive pack hunter for Titan that gives bonuses for coordination. Maybe some kind of berserker for Tyrant that directs his aura inward for amplification of might? Some kind of infrastructure and trade focused Conqueror could fit, the physical counterweight to the Emperor's philosophical, an alternate route from Deceiver for would-be peaceniks. When I think of conquering, I think of the Romans, and how their legions would build fortresses every night for camp and dismantle them in the morning.

Unrelated, but the more I think on it, the more horrifying implications seem to come out of Dementor. Imagine a psychic plague that gives people crippling autism or severe retardation. Terrifying. How does a man even fight that? Even moreso since the nature goddess's derangement keeps blacksmiths from forging the tinfoil to make a hat.

Please. Please someone help me with these stupid planets lol. All I want is a variety of planets to put in as images for my cyoa but no, I can't seem to find those. Anime art style of course. You'd think 'oh, what about AI?" it just keeps making earth or looking like crap or both lol. Ugh. Where can I get art/anime style pictures of planets from space? How did the demon lord person even manage the 3-4 they got?

>>96040061
Without men women wouldn’t be attempting shit.

"There are no female "Isaac Newtons" for the same reason there are no female "Jack the Ripper."

Women don't operate at the "extremes" of IQ and are extremely risk averse, so even if they're capable of doing something challenging, they won't even bother. The also don't care about "Great" issues, having a "Life's Work", or anything much beyond the edge of their yard and the end of the week.

Trial and error combined with effort is how you actually achieve something of note. Not by taking a test, or playing safe. This is why the modern day scientific community is a giant pussy of a woman. “Want to do something new? Send in your papers and wait ten years”. That’s not science. Science is throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.

Listen. There's no point in having a 20mph brain, if you only drive 10mph. At that rate, even an NPC that can drive 11mph will literally and figuratively get further and farther in life, especially as time goes by. Combine that with a much more rigorous work ethic and you'll have far more to show for your work than someone who is "really smart", but does nothing.

There's also the fact that women have never actually accomplished ANYTHING on their own without the help of men. Not once. Not ever. Not a single building. Not a single statue. No monuments. No tombs. Literally "no things" to show that 50% of the population ever existed. Not to smart, or interesting, if you ask me.

>>96040123
blah, women bad, blah blah, men smart, blah blah. I am not even bothering to read past the first line.
>>96040089 is right and you are wrong. Simply as that. Grow up.

>>96040145
I accept your concession. Men win again.

What’s the gayer fantasy race? Vampires or elves? I need an answer fast.

>>96040215
Vampires make a living sucking off other men. It's not even close.

>>96040224
Yeah but elves all look like women, even the men.

>>96040240
So is it more gay to suck a man off or to look like a woman? I think that answer is pretty clear.

>be vampire
>am hungry
>bite into man’s neck
>he moans
Ugh

>>96040123
Wouldn't your own logic tell you that women are a grounding influence on men?
Therefore being complementary instead of adversarial.

>>96040021
Based, fuck incelfags.

>>96040224
>>96040274
>he doesn't exclusively feed on hot goths with daddy issues.
If your first instinct after becoming a vamp is sucking other men dry, its you who's gay, not vampires.

Ywn be a vampire biting into a twink’s inner thigh as they moan and cringe and spasm

Isn't it ironic that physicsfag whines about women being emotional as he's having a mental breakdown that puts any bitchy female to shame? Is he secretly a female himself?

>>96040458
Didn't we agree on that already? She is Matteheroine

>>96040274
H-hot... so hot!
>>96040452
I wouldn't bite a twink, but a femboy is another thing.

>>96040458
>Is he secretly a female himself?
Silly anon, did you really the "Matterheroine" monicker came out of nowhere?

>>96040458
>he dosent know

>>96040517
Feminine twinks are a thing

>>96040458
Physics loses to gendered magic this is known.

>>96040582
Gendered magic is a form of autistically implemented physics.

>>96040145
based

>>96040582
Just like how physicsfag loses to genderbending.

>>96039669
As for Nemesis, why not play into the theme of "growing stronger with grudges" for the minion buff? Something like growing better at fighting enemies they've already encountered in the past? That way they’re incentivized in the broad strokes to accumulate veterancy, much like their own personal capabilities. Otherwise, the minion bonuses all line up pretty well, incentivizing the player's grand strategy to line up to their own personal capabilities.

And I think changing specialization by itself wouldn't be worth a perk choice here by itself. Those are just too darn valuable, for a side-grade, when for the same price you can easily get abilities with massive faction-wide implications like Wealth or Promotion or whatnot.

Especially since a lot of Forms already have Sub-Forms that are “good enough” alternatives. A Titan doesn't need to pick Destructionist if they have Primordial. A Tyrant could pick Warlord for the buffs, but the version of Nemesis I described can also make do. Likewise, Warlord doesn't need Dreadlord, when Strategist can already aid them in engaging in shock and awe campaigns.

Honestly, maybe a cheaper price would be more fitting. Make it so you can take Sub-Form choices under other Forms in exchange for starting out significantly weaker initially, due to essence misalignment or some other reason. It’d sorta make sense, if Forms are a malleable thing you can swap between over time, and you can customize with sub-forms. This ensures you still have a disadvantage to not choosing your main Form’s Sub-Forms, but you can still try out alternative gish strategies without completely gimping your empire’s precious precious perk points.

> I'm adjusting the costs for elites to be about x2 as much as before (since it was odd that your fancy elite unlock costs the same as a half-retarded basic unit...).

RIP, my build. Spent 11 points on Elite units.

>>96040636
sure but it is a more platonic form of autism that physicsfag can't cope with.

He has breached containment....
>>96032858

>>96041208
He sure knows how to cause arguments.

>>96041208
Good, let him go annoy the rest of the board. Also this demonstrates how effective the "Matterheroine Protocol" is, he ran away as soon as we started calling him a woman.

>>96041208
He does this a lot, probably the biggest baiter on /tg/

>>96041424
It always works, too. He’s mastered baiting autists.

>>96041436
Nah I think he just stumbled across one bait that really effective.
He is a one trick pony

>>96041513
It overlaps with religion thobeit

>>96039632
t. tok

>>96041108
>Something like growing better at fighting enemies they've already encountered in the past?
Yeah, I think that could work. I'll swap the minion bonus to something like "Minions likewise rapidly grow better at fighting enemies they've faced before."

>specialization by itself wouldn't be worth a perk choice
The idea was that if you really wanted a specific combination, you could fudge the rules for a price. But yeah, I'm adding an additional passive boost to it, so there's less opportunity cost.

>>96041649
Tok will have a canon bad ending. Stop bullying him.

>>96041208
You missed the Elden Ring/Gender magic thread on one of the /v/ boards

>>96041714
That’s actually funny. Because the lore does imply that magic is female, and all the big name civilization builders are female. It’s perfect bait because it’s true. Miyazaki is a huge feminist.

ENTER the strongest Gigastacy Waifu of yesterday.

>>96041756
>inb4 “but it’s a female moment game!!1” cope

NyarlyCHADS represent

>>96041762
ntr goddess? who?

>>96034131 (OP)
Narzleothepi Cultist Navy Build;

>Introduction: Gutter Trash (8exp/0coin).
— Spendings: City Scavenging (free), Abandoned Building (free), Rags (free).
— Skills: Street Smarts (+1per), Stealth (+ 1agi).
— Stats:
• Perception: 1
• Constitution: 3
• Agility: 5 (4 from exp +1 from stealth)

Knowledge about the local culture is invaluable. Focused on Agility and Constitution for stats, agility's bonus is simply too fucking good to pass up. Constitution because dying from diseases is major concern of mine.

>Event 1: Shady (3exp/4coin).
— Other: Black Market Access.
— Spendings: High Quality Food (-1), Cheap Clothing (-1c).
— Stats:
• Perception: 1
• Constitution: 4
• Agility: 5

After weeks of eating trash, I want to spoil myself with some real food. I'll need protein to get back in shape and prepare for joining the military.

>Event 2: Cult- Spread Narzle's Word (10exp/2coin).
— Other: Lesser Elder Connection.
— Spell: Arcane Spell: Recall.
— Stats:
• Perception: 3
• Constitution: 4
• Agility: 5

I noticed how overlooked the Recall spell is. It is both, a lifesaving plot device, and a get out of jail free card. Narzleothepi's cult seems pretty nice compared to the flame fags. Although I'm pretty bummed that they charge from their fellow cult brother.

>Event 3: Military- Join the Navy (12exp/10coin).
— Spendings: Undercity Garb (-2c), Slave/Nenlu (-5c).
— Skills: Naval Training (specialized), Sailing Knowledge, Basic Short Sword Training (specialized), Endurance Training.
— Stats:
• Perception: 4
• Constitution: 5
• Agility: 6

Constitution 5 allows me to specialize in both Naval and Short Sword Training. The latter is Mastered after 4 months thanks to Agility 5+ bonus. Endurance Training because sailing, fighting and swimming are exhausting. The Recall spell siphons stamina, so this should help with that somewhat.
Took Nenlu because I felt bad for her and because the foreshadowing about her intrigued me.

>>96041756
The crystal Buddha men mog Rennala sorry

>>96034131 (OP)
>>96041851
>Year End Event: Elder Connection.
— Item Tally:
• Undercity Garb
• Nenlu
— Skill Tally:
• Street Smarts
• Stealth
• Sailing Knowledge
• Specialized Naval Training
• Mastered Short Sword Training
• Endurance Training
— Spell Tally: Arcane Spell; Recall
— Other Tally:
• Black Market Access
• Lesser Elder Connection
• Stats:
Perception: 4
Constitution: 5
Agility: 6

Shadow Radiation? Mutations? light work, no reaction.
I have 2 coins left over, I'll either save them for next year, or give them to Nenlu.
Speaking of Nenlu, I have two options. A: take her to the secret hideout, leaving her in the care of my brethren (maybe she could learn some magic from them?). B: genderbend her into a cute femboy and take her with me to the Navy. I feel conflicted, on one hand I would love her company, but I don't want to put her in danger. So I decided to wait until I became a Captain of my own ship to take her with me, that way I can better protect her from horny sailors.

>Pan:
Long term goal is to spread Narzleothepi's faith outside the city's influence, starting from the Navy, gradually going up the ranks until I command the entire navy. Short term, I'll be going around the land, building shrines for Narzle and growing the cult's power base without alerting the flamefags.
Soldiers don't have the luxury of having a Sana's daughter near them when bleeding to death, convincing them to convert will be an easy matter.
End goal is to grow Narzle's cult in status until it rivals, or exceeds that of Shadow and Flames. Then once we could no longer coexist with them, I'll mobilise my entire fleet, take every follower of our cult, then fuck off somewhere nicer to build our own city-state. Basically I want to create the Phoenicians to the Pahl Edin's Sumerians. A maritime empire focusing on naval expansion and trade. I'll rule as its first God-king and order a grand tomb to be built for me underwater to lay rest for all eternity.

>>96041683
will the mid tier units see a price hike as well or just the elite units

>>96034131 (OP)
Some more questions for Liminal;

>Is Pahl Edin a coastal city? or is it located between two rivers? its based on Sumer, so I assume the latter.
>How important is the city's navy?
>Who are the regular troops that makes up the bulk of the city's army? is it the city guard?
>Can Navy officers keep their loot?
>How superstitions are the Navy of this world? do they worship Isatum or some other sea deity?
>How far is Narzleothepi's secret lair located from the city? I'm trying to figure out the logistics of the recall spell and how many raised eyebrows would randomly disappearing and reappearing would cause.
>What are Narzleothepi's other domains? or is it just healing?
>Is the god Narzle male or female? how old are they relative to Sana and Isatum? Do they have a lot of followers faraway or are they a budding new Deity in search of worship?
>As a god associated with water, will I be able to learn water magic in year 2 if I choose to join Narzle's cult? Does he teach other magics besides healing and cosmetic fleshsculpting?
>Can I safely assume that I'll get free healing every time I visit the Narzle cultist secret lair?
>How does Arcane Spell: Recall work? do you teleport with your clothes and items? can take someone you're touching with you?
>How many times can Arcane Spell: Recall be used in a day? how taxing is it on the user's stamina? and how fast does it activate? is it instant teleportation or do you need to chant something before you teleport?
>What do you think about my build >>96041851 >>96041861?

>>96041839
>he hasn't read the best waifu CYOA of all time

>>96041839
Bastet from one of CYOAGs first and most dominant eaifu CYOA, Picking a Goddess.

Basically, a bunch of goddesses from mythology used a dating website to remarry human mortals. Bastet quirk is that she would lead other men on and cuck them for You.

Other Anons at the time (a good decade ago) couldn't handle being the bull and protested like cucks.

>>96040215
you know an elf can be a vampire right

>>96041916
That’s just too gay.

>>96041916
It would make him too gay.

>>96041886
Stop
Asking
Questions

Eventually I will have to compile all of them into pdf format and I’m not wanting to do that again.

>>96041916
Astarion…

>>96041762
>>96041890
>>96041904
I read it some years ago but I wasn't to remember one particular goddess.

I reread her know but she is notr truly NTR. She doesn't do anything with other men, she makes them think they have a shot, just to mock them and go with the player to make them feel NTR'd.

I thought it was going to be she for real fucking other guys

>>96041925
>>96041935
here we have two gays

>>96041952
I’m not gay. I only thought about sexing a boy one time. One time.

Vampires stealing the waifus of beta men is a story as old as time. You are right to fear them.

>>96041941
>stop asking questions
Impossible! I MUST GET ALL THE LORE!
Also what do you think about the build? kino or nah?

>>96041992
I’m not the author I’m just someone who has to obsessively archive everything. You are giving me a big headache when you go and ask questions like this.

>>96041756
>Miyazaki is a huge feminist.
GRR wrote the lore for the setting if I remember correctly.
>>96041989
Vampires are sexual predators like mermaids they show women the price of leaving their husbands namely being drained of their life.

>>96042003
You WILL archive more questions and you WILL be happy.

>>96042015
>GRR wrote the lore for the setting if I remember correctly.
Yes, that’s why he called George. Both are insufferable feminists.

>>96042003
No rest for you archiveslave, now get to work before I take out the whip!

>>96041951
That's literally NTR. The fact she led them on her big butt and rhen cucks them for another man.

>inb4 she wasn't dating them.

>>96042015
They're one of the most popular fap fuel fantasies for women and have been for a long time. The husband is basically the cuck when present in such stories.

>>96042149
Ehhh you say that as if mermaids haven't been stripped of that theme either.
Most sexual predators have been stripped of theur morality tale side to become straighfoward sexual fantasies.

>>96039669
Can’t wait to build tall with indomitable. Ozymandias isn’t going to have shit on me.

>>96042144
Nah, she is just making them horny and not giving them anything. NTR is about getting your girl or boy stolen by someone else.

Would it be NTR if a girl came to talk with you, you have an incredible talk, she flirts with you and you think maybe you can kiss her just for her to turn around and go fuck his boyfriend?

Nah, she just teased you.

>>96036893
If you get two lesser sparks, what happens? Do they combine into a full spark? Same question for getting multiple of the other types of sparks. And what if you get a sparks of a different level than you have?

>>96037766
Yes.

>>96037766
two

>>96037120
I believe it is, it has the red front page and the black text version of fianna.

I won't tell which storylines will reach their conclusions. As to length I could either make it longer than the first or consolidate and trim the concept of year 2 down to a similar size to year 1 to make it more digestible and . . . slightly more easy to navigate. I'll decide after I review everything once it's in a state I'm happy with.

The woman on the wall is just a random. I like drawing and writing about female characters I find. Pretty simple. No social or political nonsense to it, it just makes me happy.

The subtext is that Baraqu is either somehow imprisoned and orchestrates it, or that his imprisonment was a scheme all along. I'll not clarify.

Baraqu wants you settled . . . perhaps stable? Self reliant? I should consider my word choice there better. Thank you.

Yes.

Correct, it's impossible.

>>96042508
Spells have multiple ways to cast them. For the purposes of the city's culture spells use black sand as a resource, and black sand is suffused into your magical implement (a wand, staff, foci, etc). Then there are the spells. Spells are researched, taught, or learned about from tomes/scrolls or magical sources. The most typical path to a spell is research, gathering materials, a ritual with your implement at the center of it, and the implement being, essentially, programmed with the spell. This is another Quest for Glory influence, but not quite. In Quest for Glory you read a spell scroll, it crumbles, and you learn the spell but later you gain access to spells that are only active when you summon your magic staff and when you lose that staff you lose the spell (for example if it's destroyed). Now, this setting has cases where Sae is essentially your implement, or where a magical artifact like the teardrop is your implement (this is why is can grant spells, they're already written into it), or where you yourself become the implement. I plan on further expanding on how stamina based casting works, obvious it's a boon because you don't need black sand but you only have so much stamina, so can cast less spells typically than black sand would allow (I've been thinking of a slight downgrade in spell power when cast off stamina too but I'm unsure).

I'm adding a line about stamina that explains stamina is based on half constitution.

>>96037290

I understand. It's possible to go too far one way or the other. Something else to consider.

You're not wrong about money. Costs and Coin in this do two things. Coins aren't really money they're more representative of money than the actual money. Costs are a way of keeping people from being rich in year one. I get it's not perfect. I'll try to make it better. As to sword cost, it's a luxury item. Spears are more typical whereas a full sword is a rarer item to have in the setting so the cost isn't really about the weapon itself but signifying that if you have one you must have either money, or be a career soldier. A spear might not be something everyone has, but it is the common weapon. With your question, I don't feel like I've accomplished the lore intent of that.

>>96039431

It's correct you'd have to be good at fire magic to ascend to the highest ranks of the Sorcerer-Priests. This would, in most cases, mean understanding magic, researching spells, etc - you'd have to be able to read. The ascension isn't the only way people are promoted in the cult though. There are ranks at which you don't have to take part in the ascension anymore.

>>96041886

Pahl Eden has a narrow sea between it and another land mass as one of its borders. The Ink Black is another bordering element. There's a larger sea on the other side of, and south, of that landmass. There's a southern and eastern region. Mountains create a natural barrier to the east. There's no hard southern border but it's really bad land ruined by an older civilization by over farming that brought up salt from the beneath the ground and ruined it for cultivating crops. The area around Pahl Edin where villages and towns can pop up are the fertile region, heavily protected, and rely on a specialized variant of the Shadow Priestesses dedicated to working with the farmers and keeping their lands fertile . . .

The Navy is potentially very important, if they were to go to war. Right now it's more exploration and exploitation. A way to bring in slaves, goods, resources, gold, etc. I can't say more.

The military is split between city guard, road guard, and fort guards but there are specialized soldiers the city will hire out to other city-states or powers that pay. The royalty and cult are obviously very cautious to who, and when, they hire these soldiers out.

The navy is a mix of individuals some with more links to the royalty, others with more links to the cult. Some may take up small beliefs in foreign water or sea deities of various people encountered, but there's no consistent one. Rather than typical elements the Cult views fire and the Shadow Priestesses view shadow like animals domesticated. So you could consider water, from the perspective of many in Pahl Edin to be an undomesticated / wild beast, same with the air, or earth.

>>96042537

You could consider gods in the setting less as the generators of existence, and more like . . . those humanity view as taming the elements so that they do less harm to humans. (A storm god, for instance, for all its cults cruelty, is tolerated in an area that used to be wracked with destructive storms. But if there are storms, they view that they've done something to upset the god and make it ignore the beast it tends to, or actively unleashed the beast on the people to teach them a lesson.

There are gods of these things, but they . . . wrangle their element rather than produce it.

In the mountain border east of the city. It's a couple weeks journey. Using magic not of Isatum or the Sana always raises an eyebrow, though there are some allowances.

Unknown.

Unknown. Unknown. Unknown. The new cult is old, rather than new . . . but new.

Unknown.

It depends on whether you're loyal to the cult.

Just you and your possessions. No others.

It's quite a long ways, so quite taxing. It's meant more as an emergency exit to escape Shadow and Flame. It would take a few moments to concentrate, say an arcane trigger word, and for the spell to activate.

I rather like your build. The cultish intent seems well thought out. The Navy additions tops it well, adds to the flavor well.

>>96039288

The slave collar was going to be replaced by a magical one that bound you to your master. Luckily they died before that occurred, otherwise you would have died with them. The slave collar you have on marks you as a slave . . . to get rid of it you'd likely need a metal worker. Maybe they'll take pity on you, remove the collar . . . and give you a job.

The lapis lazuli ring makes you feel something when you put it on.

>>96034131 (OP)
Nice but how long's it been incomplete?
>>96038004
Looks good, Can't wait to see the whole thing!
>>96042213
Yeah sure, not betrayal but nastily manipulative all the same. Not so bad if she does it to playboys who can tank rejection and laugh it off while ploughing someone else but otherwise plenty cruel bullshit in its own right.

>>96042519
Correct me if I'm interpreting wrong: spells are reliant on spell models, but forming them on the spot is (typically) impossible, so the spell model of a spell must be crafted (using this broad word to include all the different methods) into an implement, like a staff, before the spell can be used.

So, here comes the question: in the case of a living being (like Sae or your yourself) being the implement, can you cast learned spells immediately (which means you can form spell models on the spot) or must you also spend time and/or resources crafting the spell model into yourself?

elder connection lets you cast recall without a magic spark?

>>96040075
Sorry, bud, but I'm going to usa in my image build. It's mine now.

>>96041762
My cute wife Bast. :)

>>96034131 (OP)
>Ritual, Grunt Work, Stranger (freedom), Success (vocal)
>Hunting, Abandoned Building, Cheap Clothing, Bronze Knife, Quality Bow
>Agility 1, Logic 4, Perception 1, Empath 5, Charisma 5 (voice)
>Basic Bow, Wilderness, Search
>Multi-Cords, Body Hair (below eyebrows), Bumps, Drive (lust)

Stealth is easier with Sae's Vanish and smuggling meat back in without a licence is eased by Abyss. Living rough is rough but we're well fed and moderately armed with a few nasty surprises in the form of Sae's spells. Things are harder now she's human and we're spell-less but that's nothing that the eventual acquisition of black sand won't fix. I'm glad to free her without the feeling that I'd be unleashing a monster and now that Lust addles my thoughts can make advances without feeling like a rapist.

Going forward I intend to stick with Aquad until with my creature-given eyes I'm an unsurpassed Treasure Hunter. One man Lost City choruses ought to secure me an income too, not sure there's anyone in the city let alone world who can put on a similar show.

>>96042789

You still need an activating trigger. You can think of the arcane language as pure nonsense, or coded speech. One sect in one part of the world uses one arcane language, another uses another. Neither are correct. They're hiding the fact that the language is simply to invoke certain spells, rather than another spell, suffused into the implement regardless of the implement.

There are exceptions, such as mental magic, that use a focused, highly disciplined, mental visualization method. This is more difficult especially for the untamed mind.

To be clear, spells must be suffused into an implement via a ritual with very rare exception (something touches you and magically writes it into you, for example, making you the implement - see the Stranger, as its writing a language translation spell into you, one that activates on a trigger: hearing an unfamiliar language. No, this doesn't work on arcane language as those that use arcane language are purposefully coding their speech for at least two reasons (don't want to accidentally activate a spell or people knowing what you're casting).

In short: "A ritual to suffuse a spell into an implement, then a casting trigger to cast the spell."

Learned spells usually have arcane language triggers already provided for you to apply to the spell, which, someone less initiated into magic would just see as the magic words required to cast the spell. A more advanced user would realize they could be any combination of arcane words and that they don't really have to be arcane words. A trigger activates the spell but particular advanced spells may require a series of triggers to cause the spells functions to activate in a particular order: "spark [intensity]: activate [range/location], draw: grease (draws grease in area to location). draw: fire (draws fire to location)" as a nonsense off the cuff example.

>>96042829

It lets you cast recall with the Elder connection. This is an important distinction.

>>96034131 (OP)
What is the minimum age of the Exotic Body that I can probably get away with? I want as much lifespan as possible, but I don't want to court death. I think I can go pretty low, like ~10, because I'll have bodyguards, but I want some outside opinions.

>>96042508
>>96042519
>>96042528
>>96042537
>>96042557
Thanks for the clarification Liminal, I'm very happy you liked my build. One more thing, could we perhaps get a map of Pahl Edin and the surrounding regions? it doesn't really have to be a good one either, just enough to give an idea of the setting's topography.

>>96043011
>baruqu courts a 10 year old girl
Fucking pedo

>>96043015
Baraqu first meets you as a grown man during the prison escape. He knows you are an adult dude in a girls body, which is quite peculiar when you think about. Baraqu KNOWS that the player used to be a man, yet he's perfectly fine with courting you. A man of eccentric tastes...

>>96039669
Pls gib moar points if you increase the cost of elites. Thx! One of my favorite CYOAs!

>>96043040
I bet Baraqu has at least one femboy in his harem.

>>96043015
>>96043040
Actually, he doesn't remember. Nor does anyone else except the enchantress. They all remember you as always having had your new body. This causes a lot of potential issues like:
1. Baraqu remembers a baby/little girl knocking down a man, taking them to a bathhouse, and giving oversized clothes *of the wrong gender* to them.
2. Shopkeepers remember selling weapons and armor to a baby or a woman.
3. Aquad remembers hiring a baby/little girl.
4. Bhadin remembers teaching a baby to pick pocket.

>>96042960
Liminal, you might want to reconsider having picrel in the cyoa.

>>96043086
Bhadin would totally teach a little girl to pickpocket

>>96043086
Oh damn, I must've missed that. This also raises the question of how powerful the enchantress is to be able to retroactively change reality/replace memories of you from the entire world.

>>96043013

Not really my forte.

>>96043011

The option is exactly for the use you're thinking. Getting a longer lifespan. The trade off there is the more extra years you get the more vulnerable you leave yourself. Use common sense really.

It's fiction anyways, so just do as you please really. If you can see it working in your head, go for it.

>>96038912

>>96043086

I've considered just setting something absolute. It'd certainly be less trouble.

>Dark Lord Isekai update almost finished
>Light Lord Isekai in the works and blessed by MiCha
>Magi Case Redux in the works
Yeah, i'm thinking we've woned

>>96043130
Does Pahl Edin have something like Scared Prostitutes?

>>96040215
Vampires since they shouldn't even be classified as a race, most of the time they're undead and can't breed.

>>96043152
>Dark Lord Isekai update almost finished
>Light Lord Isekai in the works and blessed by MiCha
Very good. Most excellent.
>Magi Case Redux in the works
ewww gross I don't want this CYOA anywhere near the other two.

Exalted Conquest...

>>96043156

>>96043156
>Scared Prostitutes
Once they see anon's sweaty strength maxxing, charisma dumping build, most likely.

>>96042519
REMINDER: If your stamina magic build doesn't spec into constitution it's SHIT

>>96043086
>tfw reminiscing on someone you've known for years, now
>tfw notice some subtle inconsistencies in memories
>tfw you can't be sure if it's time muddling things or if you've been enchanted

>>96039669
I like all the specializations and see myself making builds for every single one of them, which is a high praise because usually there's always (perceived) weaker ones among the (objectively) strongest ones.
I'd add shadow clones to the Simulacrum (he probably already can make them, I just think the ability to be in several places at once is stronger and more widely-applicable than making some other dude's shadow).
Spymaster 1st line typo: "You'RE godlike…"
Some ideas for additional specializations for the first three forms that got the short end of the stick:
Titan - Construct: you're a powerful member of a chosen race with usual generalist bonuses and instead of becoming the titan yourself you have a giant mobile base in the form you choose as an extension of yourself that can transport armies, house facilities, and apply excessive firepower to enemies' cities. Gives you an Avengers carrier or a mecha or a spaceship or Beri's walking living dungeon (tm) or whatnot and it grows as you do.
Tyrant - Slaughterer: can enter a state of fury that serves as a power boost and makes sure that you won't die while it's active, and makes you respawn faster relative to the amount of cowardly weaklings you personally slaughter before you're slain. Aura that gives minions an ability to enter a fury, giving them a big power boost at the cost of their guaranteed demise (good for wild races and big beasts and such).
Conqueror - Reaver: master of sudden attacks, logistical disruptions, and war of attrition, able to bleed empires dry with raiding until they kneel and beg to be annexed. Can generate essence from small skirmishes on enemy territory even if it's not conquered and held, essentially allowing him to profit from wars that drag forever, as long as blood is spilled. Minions are experts at stealth, ambushes, and general skullduggery, able to strike fast and disappear into the night

>>96043343
Mind 5, Soul 4

Figure out immortality and ways to grow in power, gg.

>>96034131 (OP)
>Introduction:
Prison Break
Items: Cheap Clothes, Bronze Knife, Hardened Leather Cuirass
Stats:
Logic: 5

>Event 1:
Shady Merchant
Items: High Quality Food, 1 Coin/Year Outer Ring Tavern-Inn, Cheap Clothes, Bronze Knife, Hardened Leather x4 (Cuirass, Greaves, Gauntlets, Helmet)
Stats:
Logic: 5
Empathy: 2

>Event 2:
Crimson Tide (Scenario 2) (Exotic Body: Female, Age 5)
Items: High Quality Food, 1 Coin/Year Outer Ring Tavern-Inn, Cheap Clothes, 7 Coins (knife and armor sold after obtaining the Exotic Body)
Stats:
Logic: 5
Empathy: 2
Charisma: 0 (Physical Beauty 5)

Lifespan... Being 5 years old doesn't really matter. As a (future) mage with bodyguards, I'm not nearly as reliant on my body as warriors. In fact, training the body from a young age is better long term.

>Event 3:
Baraqu (Female, Known, and Taken In)
Items: Baraqu's Palace, 9 Coins
Skills: Stealth, Basic Scholarship
Stats:
Agility: 1
Logic: 5
Empathy: 2
Charisma: 0 (Physical Beauty 5)

>Year End Event:
Sneak Out of Baraqu's Palace
Items: Baraqu's Palace, The Blue Tear, The Drowned Scroll, 3 Coins
Skills: Stealth, Basic Scholarship
Spells: Water Crash, Draw, Healing Spring, Cleansing Spring
Mutations: The Blue Gift
Stats:
Agility: 1
Logic: 5
Empathy: 2
Charisma: 0 (Physical Beauty 5)
Spark of Magic: Full Spark

Gift Healing Water to the wives one after another in descending hierarchical order. In addition to assuaging their hostility toward me, this sends a subtle message: "I possess the power of healing. Do not offend me if you wish to benefit from it again."

>>96043444
>0 con
KEEEEEK

>>96043086
How would any of these guys react to you telling them that it was the enchantress who cursed you into a woman. Can I still keep my rights as a man to bear arms and be part of the army, because I used to be a man or will this option and the Sana one where the shadow priestess makes me into her clone make me lose my job in the army?

>>96043569
>How would any of these guys react to you telling them that it was the enchantress who cursed you into a woman
Probably go beat the enchantress to death for messing with their memories... or be so scared that they don't even dare to complain in case she's listening in on their thoughts.

>make me lose my job in the army
You can't "lose" a job you don't have. Turning into a woman happens before the Military event.

>>96043343
Body 2, Mind 5, Soul 2.

Would do Mind 5, Soul 4, but Im worried that I might already be unhealthy and die before I can create immortality. After all, it does say your powers are affected by age and sickness.

>>96043628
But if I can convince everyone I used to be a man, would I get back my male rights, or would people treat me as a woman? Also would people hire the enchantress to turn males into female harem slaves to dominate them utterly?

Actually could I ask the enchantress to do that to one of my slaves instead of me as a reward?

Why are there more women in the interactive cyoa communities than any other?

>>96043771
It requires less effort and caters to women tastes.

>>96043781
>caters to women tastes.
Which are?

>>96043788
If you know you know.

>>96043343
Body 5, Mind 2, Soul 2

Realistically there's only so much tampering you can do to your mind or soul before you can no longer be called a human.

>>96043798
This is the most useless answer you could have given me

>>96043809
The fact that you don't know means you are a hopeless incel. Just give up on understanding female behavior

>>96038004
dig it. looking forward to it

Why are women better at magic than men?

>>96043880
Because it makes sense for them to as to make them equal to men with their superior stats.

>>96043880
They aren’t.

>>96043880
Competitive balance.

>>96043880
Because the author is submissive

>>96043809
>he doesn't know

Men rule the world and oppress women at the behest of a goddess that sparks their power.
Misogynist or misandrist?

>>96043954
misogynist

>>96043954
Misogynist. Nobody hates other women more than a woman herself.

>>96043138
>Castitas
No one has yet to found a way to refute this.

>>96034131 (OP)
About the stats, is 0 and below worse than average human, 1-5 the average-peak human, and 6+ superhuman?

>>96043954
What was her problem?

>>96044279
Doesn't want another woman to take her place, so I suppose the normal reason for catty behavior.

>>96043954
This is how water mage anons will end up if they keep slurping the Baraqu kool aid

>>96044324
>end up with Baraqu at their mercy
That's some damn good kool aid.

>>96034131 (OP)
The Blue Gift https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96034131/#96043444
Water Mage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96011368/#96018042
Wanderer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96011368/#96018765
Thief https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96034131/#96035739
Cannibalistic Fusion Abomination https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96034131/#96036010
Narzleothepi Cultist Navy https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96034131/#96041851
Treasure Hunter https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96034131/#96042928

>>96044343
So few builds?!?

>>96044360
I'll make one when the cyoa is finished

>>96044333
>at their mercy
that woman is OBSESSED with him though
really shirou has her wrapped around his finger. if he was even a little assertive he could be pounding her every single day

>>96044446
If an anon finds love to the point of being OBSESSED and is reciprocated, are they not much more fortunate than most of us will likely ever be?

>>96044484
This is why (non-darling-murdering) yanderes are kino

>>96044422
Seconded

>>96044343
Thanks! I was going to gather the builds when I got home today when I saw that there were a couple new ones. Really dig Obed Marsh here, >>96041851

>>96044360
Judging by the amount of discussion it has generated you would think there'd be more.

>>96044247
I'd also like to know. I feel like 3's around the average with 5 being someone that's clearly invested in whatever the stat is.

>>96040452
Why even live bro. .

>>96043056
The guy's based but I don't think he's that based.

Actually speaking of I wonder how the gay is viewed in the setting. Inari is said to be very traditional and that 'love' and marriage in this land is seen as something between a man and a woman. But to what extent?

Does the church and by extension the Nobility and their laws simply prevent marriage or are gays routinely stoned in the streets if found out?

Is it something the nobility can get away with due to wealth and influence or is it something that would see them stripped of these things?

>>96044642
>femboy
>based
Your reddit is showing...

>>96044343
>Water Mage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96011368/#96018042
>not passing

>>96043251
You're right, that would be fucking harrowing.

You'd feel like you were going insane once you started to realize you had done all these things you would never have done.

>>96043105
>to be able to retroactively change reality/replace memories of you from the entire world
I mean, once you manage to trick reality in to believing something is true it really will do the rest of the work for you.

>>96042960
>mental magic, that use a focused, highly disciplined, mental visualization method
How much Logic would you say is needed to develop mental visualization methods for non-mental magic?

>>96039701
I'm not a tranny and I am seeing this!

>>96038158
It does, but I feel like it has too many sinister connotations.

>>96034131 (OP)
>there are only going to be 2 years in a bit more effort
>absolute max experience you can get in year 1 is 32
>getting to 20 in any stat takes 50 experience
We are NOT gonna make it

>>96043196
>>96043238
>tfw sleepiness makes you type the most psycho shit ever.
I meant "Sacred" Prostitutes not scared, like the one who fucked Enkidu to submission in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
>>96043762
>Actually could I ask the enchantress to do that to one of my slaves instead of me as a reward?
I don't think you can. The enchantress transferred you to a new body because your old died.
>>96044642
>Really dig Obed Marsh here
Happy you liked it, although I was going for more of a biblical prophet like Noah or Moses rather than a lovecraftian fish worshiper.
>Actually speaking of I wonder how the gay is viewed in the setting. Inari is said to be very traditional and that 'love' and marriage in this land is seen as something between a man and a woman. But to what extent?
Actually if you check Inari's second event, at end it says: "As a female, changed into one of the Sana's daughter in this particular way, this is the only way you can earn Love points with Inari that are romantic in nature. Her admiration for the Sana's daughters might be considered heretical in nature."
So I guess if you're hot enough you can anyone's sexuality.
>>96045084
Why would you need a maxed out stat in year 1?

>>96045369
*you can change anyone's sexuality

>>96042508
>I won't tell which storylines will reach their conclusions. As to length I could either make it longer than the first or consolidate and trim the concept of year 2 down to a similar size to year 1 to make it more digestible and . . . slightly more easy to navigate. I'll decide after I review everything once it's in a state I'm happy with.
Me personally I'd prefer flavorful walls of texts to a readlet-friendly soulless barebones. Those who like the cyoa like myself, will play it regardless of how long it is, and those who don't will never touch it no matter how "digestible" you make it. I'd say you should stay faithful to your fans rather try to appeal to whiny readlets who will complain no matter what.
Also if you hope to follow the events of year 1 and add new ones, year 2 will have to be at least double the length of the original.
>>96042588
>>96042557
>Unknown. Unknown. Unknown.
>The lapis lazuli ring makes you feel something when you put it on.
Ah classic Liminal "clarification"
>>96043130
I second this >>96043013, a map in your simplistic artstyle would really tie the whole thing together nicely.
>Not really my forte.
Don't sell yourself short, you learn to draw from scratch just to prove that nothing is impossible and encourage anons to be more creative. A single simplistic map is absolutely nothing next to drawing an entire 7+ page cyoa worth of art.

>>96035752
Italics here. I'm still alive and making content, I apologize for the delays. But do look forward to them.

>>96043954
Why is Softie sitting on that guy's lap?

>>96046066
I'll look forwards to Echoes PSY until my last breath.

>>96046072
You are very obsessed.

>>96046066
Does the content include brown goddess kitty pussy?

>>96046112
Obsessed with softie boysmell...

>>96043954
A goddess who hates women? Funny.

>>96046357
Boys smell gross anon

>>96046432
>Woman hate women she see as lesser, and see them as personal insults
How surprising

>>96042508
This, >>96045475
>Those who like the cyoa like myself, will play it regardless of how long it is, and those who don't will never touch it no matter how "digestible" you make it.
Ultimately tho, write what you want to write. Be it short or long.

I also second the map, regardless of how wonky and 'amateurish' it might be. Just say it was a crude attempt by someone in-setting.

>>96045369
>Her admiration for the Sana's daughters might be considered heretical in nature
You got me thinking. Is it just heretical for her to think that because she's a woman and that would make her gay? Or is it heretical for anyone to find The Sana's Daughters attractive because they're meant to be pure?

I assume the former considering that some of the Daughters are sent back to serve as concubines. But maybe these daughters are an exception? Sort of like the "Sacred" Prostitutes you mention.

anon are really into the sacred prostitute thing. Suspicious!

>>96046588
I also thinks its the former, Sana's daughters where made to be attractive and desirable, but are also forbidden from using their beauty in any way other than serving men.
>>96046608
What can I say? divine pussy got me acting unwise!

>>96046608
>prostitute + nun
I never stood a chance.

>>96046353
>Does the content include brown goddess kitty pussy?
The only that features specifically brown goddess kitty pussy is Luminary and PaG 4.0.

Luminary has Uraia and the entire mortal race modeled after her, the Mau. Technically all of the Mau are your adopted sisters. If you play as a male, even if you are not a Mau male (extremely rare), they consider you part of their civilization since you're the Goddess (adopted) child and can have a harem without the restriction Mau men are often subject to; Not being able to leave their castletowns due to low numbers and need to keep making more Mau.

Picking a Goddess 4.0 hasn't entered full development and might just be named Picking A Goddess Renewal. The goddess Bastet will appear at least, but be different from her first rendition 10 years ago.

I do have other CYOAs that will feature cat girls, but they aren't goddesses.

>>96046092
Only Echoes? I might have to take Apocrypha+ and other CYOAs behind the shed with a shotgun then.

>>96046786
>PAWG 4.0
let's fucking go

>>96046786
I talics do youstill have the pick you used for gaea?
Could you post it pleaase?

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>>96046733
I normally steer clear from anything related to sex work, but the concept of sacred prostitutes is strangely alluring to me for some reason? Maybe its because they don't see sex as a way to earn money but as a way to connect with the gods themselves.

>>96039693
it's flattery to those with self-esteem and an insult to those without

Sacred prostitute witches? Like Melisandre from a game of thrones? Hot.

>>96046112
>color pallete match
Cmon bro

>>96046786
We are winning so fucking much
>I do have other CYOAs that will feature cat girls, but they aren't goddesses
That's ok as long as some of them are brown.

>>96046965
Here you go, bro.

>>96046853
PAG had a lot of brown girls.

>>96047370
They are not brown excluding Magi Case Redux and Star Runners. The CYOAs features cat girls (Constellation, Occultpunk, etc) and cat girls (Lamentation and Star Runners)

Poor, poor softie
Always on the run
From molester scum

NEW THREAD:
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>>96047431
Thank you Italics.
I'm looking forward for but luminary and the next version of pick a goddess.