>Brutus' Drive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDYVVpbllIREdOczg?resourcekey=0-m3LU1xaC5-PnnA0VLRfK9g

>DriveAnon's Drive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing

>Jumpchain IRC Chat
http://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn (embed)

>How to Jumpchain
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/view

>Last Thread
>>96045107

What did you do in quirky indie RPG inspired by Earthbound jumps?

>>96081053
What jump is that?

>>96081066
Undertale
Omori
Yiik

The list goes on

>>96081077
Is there even anything worth doing in YIIK besides genocide?

>>96081053
I don't like too much either of the undertale jumps, but I guess I became god, restored the amalgamates, Chara, Asriel and the souls I absorbed.

>>96081121
It's been a while since I looked at Undertale lore, but if I'm remembering correctly, Asriel's deal was basically
>took a human SOUL to cross the barrier and try to negotiate with the humans
>allowed himself to be stoned to death by the mob because he was a kind-hearted pacifist
>because he was the strongest of the Monsters, even after he died and his SOUL was destroyed, his ego persisted, reformed into the soulless husk known as Flowey
>originally sought out a SOUL to restore himself, but after exposure to Determination and timeline tomfoolery, set his sights on acquiring all 7 of the Underground's human SOULs in order to become the God of Hyperdeath
Doesn't all this mean that Flowey is functionally a Nobody, ala Kingdom Hearts?

>>96081053
Get into Wacky hijinks and earthbound like shenanigans in the spirit of the world. Fight enemies that looked rather like everyday objects and so on. Its a bit of a overdone genre nowadays but Im still fond of em. Looking forward to the earthbound 1-2 Jump remake if we gt it.

>>96081266
Almost exact with the exceptions
>took a human SOUL to cross the barrier and try to negotiate with the humans
Chara planned to make him absorb their soul to then make him absorb other 6 human souls and become a god, to free monsterkind, even trying to bodyjack him to kill the humans who attacked him mistaking him for Chara's killer.
>because he was the strongest of the Monsters, even after he died and his SOUL was destroyed, his ego persisted, reformed into the soulless husk known as Flowey
While boss monsters souls persist a bit after death his didn't last long enough to form flowey, what did it was Alphys injecting DETERMINATION extracted from the fallen children in the flower on wich Asriel's dust fell. It's exactly him not having a soul the problem, as monster souls are made of love hope and compassion, and therefore Flowey is an horrible sociopath.
>>originally sought out a SOUL to restore himself, but after exposure to Determination and timeline tomfoolery, set his sights on acquiring all 7 of the Underground's human SOULs in order to become the God of Hyperdeath
No, he needs the souls to restore himself, in the neutral endings with 6 souls he still is unable to do it.
>Doesn't all this mean that Flowey is functionally a Nobody, ala Kingdom Hearts?
Kind of, yeah.

>>96081077
never played any of those games desu so I've never used the jumps

Rolled 8 (1d8)

ROLL FOR ME, ROLL GODS...

1. Kirby's Dream Land
2. Digimon
3. Avatar: The Last Airbender
4. Monster Hunter
5. X-COM
6. Splatoon
7. Thunder Cats
8. Sailor Moon

>>96081811
why does it always land on the joke jumps first

>>96081825
I feel your pain anon. Good luck in Sailor moon.

I have a request for the person who made the Himenospia Jump. Please make a jump for the Bloody Mary manga. It's only 16 chapters and is about a succubus that drain peoples lives surviving in Shibuya. Thanks https://bato.to/title/5970-bloody-mary

>>96081840
thank you, I'll need it
especially since I haven't seen the show

>>96081077
We have a YIIK jump?

>>96082193
Um, I thought we did...

>>96080959 (OP)
The world is a JUNGLE, whoever forgets that shall pay the price.

>>96081994
You'll need to read the manga for the full story. At one point everyone in the galaxy gets wiped out. They get better, but it's still a problem for jumper given death means chainfail even if you can expect to get resurrected.

>>96082346
Thankfully you won't chainfail in that situation

>>96082346
maybe I should just switch gears to the generic magical girl cyoa instead

King's Quest! I never played the other -quest games, so if anyone wants to be a cop, a space janitor, or a lounge lizard, don't expect them from me. If anyone wonders, I didn't draw on the remake for material.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MwE_u8uVNptZtWygshGFfkBIffyPGXcWhQe1dmLQhZE/edit?tab=t.0

>>96082796
I don't know anything about this so I don't have feedback but thanks for the jump!

>>96081811
>>96081825
you'll take your fanfic Sailor Moon and like it you whippersnapper!

>>96082796
Nice, I'll look through this more in a bit but an immediate question I have for the True Love companion is if we can import someone into the roll if we happen to already have a true love. Additionally there doesn't seem to be any option to recruit canon characters as companions.

Also the word "adventurer" in the Veteran Adventurer perk is not capitalized. Speaking of the perk I assume the intended function is to give you the sort of plot contrivance of the various protagonists of the series in coming across the right thing / item they'll need to address something later? Or at least finding that stuff "normally", I'm aware "the thing that is needed to move the plot along" item is the thing you'd want to purchase if you're just interested in having, well, the thing needed to move the plot along.

Also just want to say thanks for making the jump, I really enjoyed this series growing up and it's great that we've finally got a jump for it.

>Fox youtuber I've been watching online commited suicide thanks to reddit(apparently)?
Damn, as if I couldn't hate reddit more.

>>96083365
If you’re talking about the one that ran a fox rescue, it probably wasn’t Reddit. The whole animal rescue/conservatory sphere is full of absolute gigacunts

>>96083438
>The whole animal rescue/conservatory sphere is full of absolute gigacunts
You can say that about everything really.

>>96083446
Yeah, but for whatever reason there’s a LOT of them there. Like holy fuck calm down.

>>96083463
If I had to guess the type of chimpanzee possessed by a demonic spirit that can't be content unless he's lording over and whipping slaves would be very drawn to something which they can abuse as they'd like.

Gauntlet gauntlet when?

>>96083614
When gauntlets gauntlet on gauntlet time.

>>96083619
But gauntlets only gauntlet on gauntlet time after gauntlets gauntlet in gauntlet time...

>Toyotarou, creator of Dragon Ball Super, has announced that EVERYTHING is canon
Gohanposter, how does this make you feel?

>>96083347
Yep. The perk is instinct and experience. The item is just convenience.

>>96080959 (OP)
Cthulhu Fartagn fix your Biological Upgrades perk in the vampire sex and blood jump to not make me a futa for taking it.

>>96083614
there needs to be a drawback based on the meme of Wizard needs food badly. Maybe you can never get enough food of something.

>>96084114
Nta but he should also add the ability to purchase monster and vampire forms in his castlevania jumps.
He said we could, but never updated his jumps. It should be in the archive.

okay, let's try this
1) DXD
2) AgK
3) Fire Force
4) FGO
5) 2hu
6) Marvel something
7) Prison School
8) Darkstalkers

Rolled 3 (1d8)

>>96084540
forgot to roll I guess

>>96082796
Based

>>96081867
I'm sorry, but even if I weren't too busy seething, I don't have any interest in this manga.

>>96084114
No.

>>96084451
I don't think I ever actually said I would do that. I gave a rough idea of what they would be price at if they had a price, because someone asked and I'm willing to give a lot of leeway to ideas I think are cool, but in terms of actual jump mechanics, no, those are the rules.

>>96084561
I see a lot of options here that make me wish I could have taken this as a later jump. Oh well, build incoming.

>>96083614
Me and my buddies played the shit out of the N64 version of this and Smash.

pedophiles yet?

>>96084992
What?

>>96084992
No, no I think you are looking for Reddit. That's a common mistake, just go to Reddit I am sure they have plenty there.

>>96081053
Turn them into romantic slice of life jumps.

>>96084856
>Those are the rules
That you arbitrarily changed when updating circle of the moon.

>>96083719
That means that Daima is canon where Gohan doesn't exist.

>>96085076
pdf files = pedofiles

>>96084856
>No.
Why? Just to be a prick?

>>96084977
Really wish I'd done this second, so I could import someone as my Guardian.

Jump 1: Fire Force

2nd generation, New Recruit

Perks
New Recruit: Hell Yeah, free, Legally Lecherous, free, Curiously Mysterious, 100, Idiot Savant, 100, I'm Not Telling!, 100, Generational Divide, 200, Destined Hero, 300
Vet: Designated Chef, 100
Destroyer: Honor Among Psychos, 100

Pyrokinetics
General: Fire Resistance, free, Control, 200, Superhot, 200, Supporter, 200, Tool User, +200
Second Generation: Volume, 200
Plasma as like a retributive scale armor he can put on himself and others, that explodes when it's struck to harm the attacker

Items
New Recruit: Fire Amplification Balls, free, Taters, free, Supplementary Tools (turns the plasma scales into explosive mines), 100
Wild Card: Secret Base, 200

Canon Companion, 100 (Hibana)

Drawbacks: Pure of Heart, +100, Designated Fanservice Character, +100, Pyro Pervert +200

>>96085496
just to have a prick

>>96085640
this makes me think of that one waifu catalogue fic for that 70s show

Wet dog is lewd.

>>96084856
>>96085496
>>96085640
It should be noted, I'm not asking for the perk to not have the option to make someone into a futa, I'm asking for the option for the becoming a futa part be optional for people that are men. It outright says you get larger tits, which means its worded to give men tits.

Anyone have that pic of Kama and U-Olga judging eachother?

>>96086009
Found it with less than a minute of googling. You don't deserve to see it, but I'll show it to you anyways.

Bit of an odd question. Say that Halo and Xcom take place in the same universe, and the aliens of XCOM make first contact around...2450ish. This is well before the Insurrection, so Spartans aren't around yet, and while seperatist sentiment is there it hasn't reached a boiling point yet. And this is, of course, a good 65 years before Halo Humanity would encounter the Covenant. What would the war between XCOM aliens and pre-Insurrection Halo Humans look like?

>>96085633
Did you pick the Jesus perk?

>>96085496
He's not going to "fix" it because he considers it a feature.
And he's right

>>96084992
We do have a Ronin Kenshin jump yes.

What jumps would you do as Tatsuya Kaname after the events of Oriko Magica, culminating in a an end jump before Oriko kills Madoka?

>>96086029
Thanks. I actually already found it. I thought I posted that I didn't need it anymore.

Anybody know which anon made the Aberrant jump? I wanna ask if Nova companions can gain more CP from Aberrations like they could in the first edition of the jumpdoc.

[Make the Exorcist Fall In Love redux]

>Previously on Exorcist Eternal: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/93873446/#93884573

The boy's eyes glazed over as I explained what temperature play, electric shock play, and muckbang. He twitched in place as I explained frotting, sounding and penis fencing. And he looked like his soul was leaving his body when I explained klismaphilia.

"And that" I said dryly, a few hours later, "concludes my lecture on the tamer examples of sex"
"T-tamer?!"

"The demon in your midst is a pathetic excuse for a succubus. Now that you comprehend these acts, she should have NO surprises capable of traumatising you with"

"Don't worry Mr. Saint" said the boy firmly, "I won't let any harm come to Imuri while you're off slaughtering demons in Hell!"

I just stared at him. "...Mr. Saint? D-did I say something wrong?"

"...not as such. We'd have done things differently if I had my way, but in His divine plan it's the prerogative of the young to learn by trial and error"

The boy known as Mr. Priest stared as I strode off and started to triple-check the armaments I had prepared. Angelic matter called down from on high swirled in the form of nanomachines. Sacred geometries pulsed in tandem with the etchings on my flesh. Energy weapons inlaid with blessings thrummed with matter-destroying radiance at my approach. Palm-sized drones whirred about, cycling their holy energy weapons.

Limiting my powers to this avatar wasn't much of an obstacle when my cosmic consciousness had figured out how to alloy heavenly power into matter and energy at a glance.

"You know Mr. Priest" I said finally, "you remind me of myself when I was working for the Lord"

"...how?"

"Well for one thing, it's how you've clearly lost the will to live. But can't bear to die and have it all be for nothing, either. Trust me, I've been there, and the only way forwards is straight through that gosh darned valley of the shadow of death"

1/6

>>96086352
>Forcing my fetish is a feature
Yeah people with awful fetishes are often so spiteful they look at the world this way. It's a sign of extreme mental illness. Hopefully he's not like you.

>>96087099
"That can't be the case!" he protested. "You're about to fight all the legions of Hell on your own! Face down demon lords, by yourself!"

"Ah, but I'm not by myself" I said, gesturing for a miniature moon and something with silvering wings to rest on my palm. Followed by the angel Raphael of this world. "Way I see it, I've just got more experience working with our mutual comrades. That's all"

For the valley of the shadow of death, I thought, is wherever God bade me to walk. "I just can't see it, Mr. Saint" said the boy, hanging his head. "You're succeeding at things I'm just learning are there"

"...succeed? Yes, that's what I was told at the end of the fourth Ordeal Call" I said softly. "Look. Whe-if you ever find a reason to abandon the path you're on, just remember God loves watching people get back up as much as He loves watching them actually rise. But listen to me, an old man warbling about past glories. You want some practical advice?"

"Always!"

"Reread the Bible" I called over my shoulder as a portal sent me straight to Hell. "You're doing as well as can be expected, but you're leaving the REALLY deadly verses on the table. Don't HESITATE. Check out Psalms. Check out both Kings books, Numbers, 2 Samuel and Judges"

As the barrier to the demon world shut and the boy sputtered in confusion, I added "But save Genesis and Revelations for until you're really up against the wall!"

>Lust

"Mortal you can't come in here, this is the domain of the demon lord AsmodeuARRRGH" was the most common greeting I received as I walked into the demonic palace, making a direct beeline for a very disgruntled demon lord of Lust. "Oh look, another one" she said in a huff. "Ara, are my subjects...?"

"Not worth expending the energy to kill. You're all doomed" I said dismissively. A chorus of groans went up behind me, demons sealed and impaled with tiny holy acupuncture needles on the floor.

2/6

>>96087107
Asmodeus, grotesque amalgamation of dead animal parts from the waist down and typical anime waifu from the waist up, raised an eyebrow. "Oh, my. However should I thank you for sparing my subjects~"

"Putting on the charm already? I suppose I can't blame a demon for playing her role to the hilt. I'll cut to the chase" I said briskly even as amorphous appendages started to wrap around my legs. "I'm here the exact Heaven's vengeance on behalf of mankind, in direct response to the Demon Lords' ravages. No more, no less. You and me, one on one"

"Oh? Interesting. And how will you do that, new meat?"

"By beating you at your own game. I won't take the Lord's name in vain, but I understand your kind enjoy contracts? You have an hour to make me ejaculate, with all your powers. If you make me ejaculate, my soul is yours. If you fail or orgasm yourself first, I demand your submission to divine judgement as well as the right to obtain a seventh of your power in an inert form. Finally, as my first 'customer' I will limit myself to using two miracles. How about it?"

Her eyes damn near bulged out of her skull. "You're SO on, choirboy! Any last words?"

I smiled faintly, as I spread my legs and exposed my penis. "Ezekiel 23:19-20"

Immediately Asmodeus fell upon me, visiting all manner of violation and horror. Or at least attempting to as femtomachines reknit my flesh, forcefields of angelic energy flashed and spat against her assault and my mind simply weathered her cursed temptations with utmost indifference. Something was wrong. As she seduced feverishly, Asmodeus felt her own loins moistened, her own breasts grow heavy with demon milk, her-

"N-nO! NoT lIkE ThIS!! Beaten aT mY oWN gaME...oN mY oWN TURF???" she howled, unable to restrain the miraculously enforced orgasm between her legs.

"Deuteronomy 25:11-12" I said, a death sentence marked by falling angelic blades.

3/6

>>96087114
>Greed

"Dammit dammit DAMMIT!" shouted a suit-wearing man, pounding on the inside of a gate to hell (Leviathan yelled at him to stop hitting her teeth from far away). "A fight, a REAL fight between REAL men, that's all I wanted!"

"We might be able to help each other" I offered. He whirled around, at first affronted I had hacked into his holdings and put some of his comrades into cages-then breaking out in a fierce grin when I tossed him a lucha libre mask while donning my own. "Oh. Oh YEAH, it doesn't get more manly than this!"

"Hosea 12:4" I said. To his credit, Mammon didn't back down from a literal ladder match-but in the end I suplexed him into another Gehenna.

>Envy

This, I thought watching the giant sea monster falling from on high, was just like playing with my daughters in the olden days. She was surprised but delighted when after running into one human capable of playing with her, she fell atop another who instead of running simply intoned "Judges 16:28-30" and started cleaning and jerking her bodyweight like the world's biggest beachball.

Almost all of Hell stared aghast as I proceeded to use the Demon Lord Leviathan as a glorified beachball in between giving her tummy rubs and headpats.

>Gluttony

The Lord of Flies was a bad matchup for a human in sheer endurance.

"Deuteronomy 11:17"

Fortunately he wasn't himself when he was hungry, and after running him ragged around the Gehennas he was very, very tired when he had to come up to the surface and fight Mr. Priest.

>Wrath

The true mastermind was very surprised when the real Archangel Michael's sword cut him in half.

>Sloth

"H-hey, this is a private area! I'm in the middle of a scheme to-" babbled Belphegor as I walked up, stared at his...court, and said "Mark 6:31" gently to him before leaving.

Belphegor blinked. He stared at Mr. Priest, who was currently... "Well, perhaps I can let him enjoy a happy dream for a while longer"

4/6

>>96087119
>Pride

"Hey, I'm incredibly glad to meet you! Do you know why? Because you're the first person in AGES I've never anticipated!" asked the shounen protagonist who was this world's version of Lucifer.

"I think" I said, blinking, "you may well just be my second favourite version of the Devil ever"

"Hell yeah! Wait, who's the first guy?!"

"Your plan" I said, ignoring him. "is admirable. But I've already committed to helping a friend. So I'm going to offer you a few tips from personal experience. Then we're both going to wait for Mr. Priest to get here"

"Well, I can't fault your loyalty. And I can see the data written on your cellular structure, clear as day. I LOVE what you've done to that human vessel of yours" he said. "even if it's somewhat...incomplete"

"I'm waiting for the right catalyst to present itself" I said meaningfully.

"...I see. So even you can't escape the plan?"

"I can and have. I just don't want to. When this is over, remind me to tell you about the fourth Ordeal Call too, if only you knew how good you have it here"

Inevitably Mr. Priest showed up, in desperate need to kill a friend-and realising I was standing between him and Lucifer's ritual. "Hey, kiddo. Remember what I said about abanding your path?"

"Please Mr. Saint, it's Imuri-"

"I know"

"Lucifer will destroy Hell trying to evolve the demons-"

"I know" I repeated, "and what of it? It is after all, God who wills this place's destruction. Why shouldn't I just...help it along?"

"Because it's Imuri's home, Mr. Saint" he said timidly.

"Then, Mr. Priest" I said patiently and with great kindness, "you have no choice but to kill me since I've become an obstacle in your way"

"No!"

"Boy" I said, pointing at my own throat, "it is not a sin to fight for those you love. You are gentle. You do not like to hurt. But it is because you cherish life that you must protect it. Please drop your restraints, and just...let it go. For her sake"

5/6

>>96087122

With tears in his eyes, he swings in an arc crackling with Hell's damnation as well as his tarnished heavenly might. No shield of mine activates. My drones remain inert. The cobbled together mystical practices I have syncretised into an "anti-witchcraft" system allow his blade straight through.

I'm proud of him.

So's Lucifer.

"..j...ohn...eigh...t...s-even..." I force my shattered throat to spit out, turning my own death into a redemptive sacrifice for a very, very special demon lord.

...

"WHAT?!" yelped Mr. Priest as all the demonic energy I'd claimed suddenly reconciled instantly with his angelic energy, As Leviathan showed up with many, many demons unwilling to see their Hell go down without a fight. And as my tumbling almost-corpse scrawled out GENESIS 5:24 on the ground, resulting in a thunderous series of trumpet blasts as the cardinal archangels and the angelic matter implants in my body started resonating-resurrecting me, and filling me up with divine power.

"Y-YOU'RE ALIVE?!"

"Resurrection! Resurrection Mr. Priest, it's a miracle repeated in multiple tellings of Jesus' life! Death is a small thing" I exclaimed. "especially to burn away my own mortality!"

"...I have issues with that statement but I'm glad you're okay" he mumbled.

"I don't" said Lucifer cheerfully. "The fact that this guy independently, without ANY input from me, successfully remade himself into a divine being has got me REALLY pumped up! Even if that means we've got to fight while I hold my hand in place!"

"Boy, remember what I said about holding Revelations in reserve?" I stage-whispered.

"YEAH. One lake of fire, coming right up" he said grimly, as we prepared to face the wrath of the once-highest angel together.

6/6

>>96086487
In fairness, from Oriko's perspective, with the information she had available to her, she did absolutely nothing wrong. There's no way she could have known about the broader context of Homura, and Madoka having to die in order to save the world was, strictly speaking, correct.

>>96085719
Like literally the sitcom That 70s Show?
Why would anyone make that?

>>96087129
I do not understand. Explain?

>>96087129
>I force my shattered throat to spit out, turning my own death into a redemptive sacrifice for a very, very special demon lord.
Shouldn't that not be enough to kill you?

>>96086937
i am pretty sure it was posted by an Anon without a trip/name.

>>96087119
>My boy Mammon jobs even in fanfics
It's hard to be a Mammon fan.
>>96087129
Yeah, Lucifer is quite cool in there.
Funny that I didn't needed to really add anything to build him in the jump considering that I thought that Satan was the one with the angelic powers due to his sword.
>>96087819
Boy can resurrect too. He explictly was killed by his father and resurrected on his own.

About Azur Lane's Harem Navy perk: does it affect shipgirls-only or does it affect girls/women in general?

Rolled 1, 3 = 4 (2d8)

>>96086161
destined hero, yeah
also, forgot to roll again, let's see where I'm dropped off and my age

>>96085633
I'm mad that the jump doesn't let you be HOPEMAN without staying in the jump.

>>96088255
So would Purified Wings + Demon Lord be enough to match Lucifer?

>>96088385
Seems like it. Lucifer is specially strong because he keeps angelic powers. It also seems that Father's strongest gimmick before becoming a Witch was the angels powers rather than the miracles.

>>96088460
So is angel power stronger then miracles?

Whatever happened to Ricord if anyone knows? Did he have another breakdown and leave or something? Haven't seen him for a bit.

>>96085633
>Curiously Mysterious
This perk costs 200 CP since it's from the Wild Card Origin

>>96087893
Fuck

>>96088495
He's in the bunker.

>>96088493
It seems that they complete Mr. Priest's powerset, and that he is vastly weaker without them. Like, he couldn't even damage a weakened Beelzebub. They seem to be way less versatile, though.

No, it's totally different! That was Daemons of Chaos jump. This is a Chaos Daemons jump. It's not the same!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-gPtjALpWp6eoHeXvefsuSzYCt8RM90h/view?usp=sharing

And also an Urza's Block jump.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LjVNltdlIJyi5SrVVVPUI4cghp-748x5/view?usp=sharing

>>96088602
So you're saying Shard abusing Miracles and not just summing Michael as his Stand is just his chuuni taking over?

>>96088602
Does Purified Wings let you use ANY Miracle like Lucifer seems to be able to?

>>96088723
Pardon?

>>96088599
Ah alright.

>>96088573
hmm, alright, axe that and put in Aw Shucks, jumper can be a tailor or a masseuse or something

>>96087122
I will never get over this world's Lucifer literally just being a hotblooded Shonen MC.

>>96084825
Okay. Thank you for responding.

So bored but any good places to start a kitsune jumper in? Or pick up it as a theme if anyones got any ideas? Was thinking Okami or pocky and rocky.

>>96088813
Not the jumpmaker but the jump was made before Lucifer got introduced and seems to be more based on stuff Beelzebub, although that in itself also included generating heavenly matter and other things.

>>96086937
It's very obviously GenericAnon's work?

For those of you that never made it to the bunker, GenericAnon made an Urza's Block jump. It lets you be an oldwalker

>>96087437
It's a "horror" story wherin the MC gets "screwed over" and sent to a sitcom reality, complete with scene jumps and a laugh track.

>>96086115
Been a while so I'm bumping my question with lewd snek.

>>96088813
Doubt it. The jump was made before Lucifer appeared and that specific perk is mostly based on the fact Beelzebub briefly managed to regain his grace.

>>96088723
>>96086937

>>96086115
>>96090444
You already got some answers in the bunker Nyanko. The UNSC does alright since they are in a better starting position than Earth was. This probably makes the Human-Covenant War easier due to the tech they can get.

>>96090247
Fate Legends Nippon

If you had to guess, what alignment do you think Desiree would have? Chaotic Neutral? Evil?

>>96091141
>Chaotic Neutral?
Yes

>>96091141
She's Lawful at the very least.

>>96088813
I think you can probably just assume that it is Lucifer using his divine/angelic power to copy things, being Pride and all. Like, he doesn't seem to have any other gimmick like the other demon lords besides getting a glimpse of God's plan and keeping his angelic powers even after the fall, so maybe he can just do those things.
You can fanwank a yes for now, if things change significantly in the next chapters I will update the jump.

>>96087103
>Hopefully he's not like you.
Anon, it's BLADE. Are you new around here, or something?

>>96090904
Oh right that has a option in it. Thanks

Sir a Fate/China has hit the Jumpchain
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jjC6ARWBX0KE9ZaZhSRZfKWuiUp1lIoD/view

>>96091264
Note that he called him Cthulhu Fartagn. Here and at the bunker, he’d be called Blade, and if they were from SB or QQ they’d have asked him there.

>>96091477
>Fate/Legends China
>1000cp
>Drawbacks: Time Extension [Until the modern day], Romance Years +100cp, Poisonous Darling +200cp
>1300cp
>Timeframe: Three Sovereigns And Five Emperors - 3162BCE
>Location: Hongkou Town, Chengdu, China
>Origins: Divine, Philosopher
>Perks. Breathing and Walking (True), Star of Destiny -100cp, Zhenren -600cp, Taking Suggestions, Equaling Heaven -300cp, Beginner Taoist, Grand Philosopher -300cp
>0cp
>Items: Martial Arms [Discounted]
Kinda meh and full of weird grammar and also hilariously unbalanced but at least the drawbacks are comparable to any Val jump, so that's something I guess? Definitely not as good as any of the other Legends jumps though

>>96091504
Yeah but at least we finally got one since I doubt Val is coming back. Not like she seemed to actually want to finish Fate china anyway.

>>96091477
Reddit?

>>96091568
Yup they took the wip from here and 'fixed it'.

>>96091568
Unfortunately, but at least a Fate China jump is actually done.

>>96091477
This feels... weird. Like looking at a skinwalker version of a Val jump.

>>96091246
Hey Bloodanon, any ideas on how the rebalanced jump would look like?

>>96087437
It's pretty meta in terms of it having a laugh track and a script, kind of horror in a way. It's definitely an interesting take, if dragged down by being Waifu Catalogue.
Worse, it's a Leecifer WC fic so there's a whole bunch of metalore you have to read like 10 of his other fics to understand.

>>96088283
alright, Amaterasu and barely an adult


Jumper looked up at the magnificent building. Amaterasu looked more like a palace than a power plant. “Why'd you want to meet me here?”

“I was brought here as a rookie by my captain,” Jumper's new captain said. “Amaterasu is how we built back against the Great Calamity, when the world burned down. For we who fight Spontaneous Human Combustion, it's an important symbol.” Jumper nodded politely. The other man observed his reaction closely, then visibly wilted. “Come on, let's go.”

Captain wants me to think he's cool, Jumper realized. I should be nice to him.

I remember Fire Force a lot worse than I thought I did lol

>>96087546
We're fighting the Devil as a sidequest, what's there to explain?

>>96087819
Oh no, Miracles can explicitly revive the actually-dead. Since there is ZERO detail on how magic/alchemy really works I imagine for my near-immortalised body it was like an ORT situation where the dead cells of an imperfectly-immortal body suddenly shut down in clinical death, but then the miracle kicked in and restored everything to actual immortality.

>>96088255
>It's hard to be a Mammon fan
He's a starter villain locked into the designated rival route anon, honestly I'm impressed he didn't eat shit nearly as hard as I thought he would considering Bel shut him down as a side effect of doing something else.

>Satan
That he has the sword at all is interesting in it's own right. The struggle with Levi very, very clearly showed he's not anywhere near Lucifer's level but at the same time it's been shown the only non-Lucifer demon lords who can manifest angelic stuff are those who got their hands on pieces of angels? So either Satan has a vivisected angel in storage or there's something else going on.

>>96088385
Not actually sure myself. Lucifer specifically says he was the highest of the angels (and yeah, this is LUCIFER saying it) and the power to manifest miracles like Mr. Priest can doesn't seem to be common to all angels because, well, if it was Mr. Priest would've probably won his first fight with Beelzebub back in the day.

Definite fanwank moment.

>>96088493
It's more like it appears to synergise with miracles, since Lucifer is able to do the same things at higher intensity as well as more complex things like (attempted) demon evolution.

>>96088726
Bruh summoning Michael to do everything is like using a nuke to wipe cavemen off the map. There is a time and a place for everything, and also enemies lulled into a state of complacency are easier to deal with than enemies who have had time to study your trump card.

>>96089588
It's the best!

>>96092351
>We're fighting the Devil as a sidequest, what's there to explain?
Why is the "I can just revive them later" excuse in the manga page bad? It feels bad but I can't pin why.

>>96082796
[King's Quest]

Drawbacks: An age long past, or a vision of the future? Sierra logic, Time for another adventure (1600)

Royal

Inventory (Free)
LOOK AT IT (Free)
Champion eternal (1200)
Master of Magic (600)
Fay Lord (0)
Fae Instrument (Free)
Riches (Free)
True love (Free)
-Magical creature: Fairy, Point Tracker (Free), Higher studies (Free), Of course animals can talk (500), Perfect helper (300), Fay Lord (0)
Kingdom and Family (Free)

WHAM, WHAM, WHAM, WHAM-

"Forsooth, my love! Hither and tither drift the intransigent blossoms that e'er gild the way twixt fate and folly!"

WHAM, WHAM, WHAM, WHAM-

"And um, if thou wouldst dally a while, perchance thine quest would be expedited by the path lest trodden?"

WHAM, WHAM, WHAM, WHAM-

"I am not" WHAM "doing" WHAM "a fetch quest" WHAM "when this" WHAM "is objectively" WHAM "more efficient" I said peevishly, continuing to headbutt the door like an angry goat.

"Well fine, be that way" she mumbled, dropping her picnic basket full of collected macguffins and sulking.

The exiled fairy sorceress sighed heavily as I continued to ignore the many, insufficiently logical plot advancement objects scattered around the world, and continue to violently slam my forehead against the door of the evil wizard's tower. The evil wizard, who had long since learned I was his superior in magic, was effectively besieged. Impotently watching his minions ineffectively try to attack me only to be knocked flying from my headbanging, and lamenting his inability to turn me into a cat.

With one final, mighty headbutt the local geography decided to cave in before the logic of Sierra games did. The tower crumbled. The earth split apart. The very clouds above parted, as the whole thing crumbled to ruin.

Except for the door, still standing there.

>>96092465
Feels dissonant to Lucifer's either demonstrated compassion and empathy for his comrades and the people he wants to save, maybe? Like surely he understands the agony of death.

>>96092351
>Oh no, Miracles can explicitly revive the actually-dead
No i mean that you should have never died in the first place and be a valid target for resurrection, even if you specifically didn't defend yourself your natural tankiness should have kept you alive.

>>96092465
I assume it's a Nasu thing of "MuH InHumAn MoRaLs".

>>96085155
I have no memory of this, therefor it doesn't count.

...Circle looks pretty normal as per the standardization I tried to make. Which changes are you saying I made to this?

>>96085496
Because futa.

[Urza's Block]

Drawbacks: Return Jumper to the Battlefield, Jumper's Saga, Urza's Grudge (1300)

Rolled Sleeper Training Camp, First Sphere of Phyrexia, circa 80 AR

Angel (1200)

Charismatic (Free)
Planeswalker (900)
Mage Master: White (300)
Land: White (Free)
Companion import X8 (0)
-Human, Warrior (Free), Planeswalker (300), Land (White), Artificial Plane (0)

"Master?"

I tilted my head slightly at the sight of the plane. Castles sculpted from clouds drifted over a silvery-grey sea comprised of rarified mathematics and geometries given substance. Here and there, stark lines of white light marked the leylines of the land, and where they accumulated geometric shapes rose and unleashed torrents of White mana upwards. The sole dominant species that inhabited it was angels, though the plane itself had a nascent sentience that regarded the angels as extensions of itself. And the angels appeared to have two activities: Condensing mana into more perfect, rarified forms, and worshipping me.

It was like the plane itself was in love with me. How odd.

"Master, what is your bidding?" repeated the angel. I squinted at her. To my mild disappointment it was not actually an angel. It was in fact a human planeswalker that had at some point accumulated so much mana as to be functionally indistinguishable from an angel.

"Tell me the nature of this plane and it's seven siblings" I ordered, as her eyes lit up. "We have long foretold the imminent end of the Blind Eternities, heralded by a savior who will carve paradise from it's horrific expanse! That is why I and my sisters believe we were chosen by the Spark, to help you impose order on the anarchy of the multiverse!"

"WOW you are REALLY pandering to me huh?!" I yelled in a direction nobody else saw.

LOOK MAN I'D JUST REALLY LIKE TO SEE AN UNCOMPLEATED MULTIVERSE, OKAY? said the Benefactor.

"W-who are you talking to?" asked the angel-LARPing planeswalker.

1/2

>>96092685
"A reclusive old friend. Look I'm game, I just need to make a few calls"

Another angel-LARPing planeswalker suddenly entered. "Sister. Master. There is an unpleasant bearded man trying to enter our Eightfold Ecumene"

"Oh, that's just Urza. Living proof that Planeswalkers are the real menace of this world" I said dismissively.

"W-what? Master surely you don't mean the Phyrexian are the lesser evil-"

"Not in their present form, no. Don't you lot worry, I'm about to kill two birds with one stone"

"Then should we smite the heretic Urza first?"

"Don't give him the dignity of personal attention. Just shore up the defences and let him stew until he self-destructs, that's the best way to deal with Urza"

Several hours later, was Yawgmoth eying me with hunger, envy and yearning as I showed up on his plane with a chi engine in one hand and detailed schematics on femtomachine-enhanced biology in another. His instinctive megalomania quickly veered to scientific curiosity.

...

And while he was distracted, I simply used the time machine I'd SUCCESSFULLY built a few days ago due to the Phyrexians being otherwise occupied to go back in time, siphon away all the magic on Thran and have it subjugated by my own planes instead. Retconning away the Phyrexian threat.

...

"NO!!!" bellowed Urza, ripping a hole in space and time just to come back and get revenge on me. Crackling with cosmic power. "How DARE you flee from your deserved end! I shall destroy you with-ow" he moaned as I shot him with a dart. "What...what was that?"

"Reality chip"

"...what?"

"In ONE future, Phyrexians eventually figure out how to compleat Planeswalkers. Go have fun there and stop bothering me"

Wracked with the changing oil, he screamed in horror as I tossed him back through a portal in time where Phyrexian perfection was law, while I started work on an alternative multiverse preservation scheme.

2/2

>>96092499
...bruh I let him slash through most of my fucking throat. Please learn to read. And to capitalise "I".

>>96092701
And Mr. Priest was reduced to just his bones and walked it off as a teenager, a slashed throat is a papercut in comparison.
>And to capitalise "I"
Do you see a period to signify the end of a previous sentence?

>>96092688
Somewhere in this you're implying that you wouldn't get along swimmingly with Jin Gitaxias, and somehow I just don't believe you.

>>96092774
It was a slash powered by the degraded heavenly/increasingly used hellish energy Mr. Priest has been getting the hang of all arc without even knowing it's there, it was a little worse than conventional force. Also debatably that counted as resurrection, just-very high speed resurrection.

>Do you see a period
...you're supposed to capitalise "I" when referring to yourself.

>>96092809
I did, as a matter of fact. The vast majority of MtG jumps are about me shouting at the other Phyrexians for being retarded (especially that idiot Elesh Norn for making the entire hivemind dependent on her) and teaching them how to make a biologically optimal hivemind the CORRECT way and also how to run a better PR campaign based around being magitech Perfect Cell instead of just randomly making guts explode into antlers or whatever, while being very cordial with Jin and sharing the details of Project Planeswarden with him.

This one is simply me being presented a different opportunity to save the MtG multiverse and heading off into a new timeline to try it out, while still preserving the one in which Jin and I did what Elesh couldn't: Actually compleat the entire multiverse successfully.

[Chaos Daemons]

Drawback: Extended Campaign

Rolled Uolesh

Independent, greater daemon (800)

Chaotic Neutral (Free)
Conquest of Chaos (Free)
Sacred Number: Golden Ratio (Free)
Would Be God (500)
Chaos Weapon (Free)
Daemon World (300)
Companion importX8 (0)
-Independent, greater daemon (400), Chaotic Neutral (Free), Conquest of Chaos (Free), Would Be God (100), Chaos Weapon (Free), Chaos Armor (0)

I stared at the Chaos Gods.

They stared hopefully at me.

"Okay so, hear me out-" began Tzeentch.

"You're trying this again? Really?" I snapped. "Emperor. Initiative Double Anathema protocol"

"Double Anathema online and aimed right at you. I protect" declared the Emperor of Mankind. A burst of golden energy lanced out from distant Terra, resonating with my own as once again I started systematically resculpting my notional Chaos Daemon of Law form into a true Order God. With a few angry sentences of the Enuncia punctuated by Block Transfer Computations and a particularly vicious Quantum Mnemonics expletive .

The Chaos Gods had a brief moment to register the Emperor and I tearing away strands of their energy, condensing it around our own and firing them like psychic railguns directly into their Corpuses before they violently imploded along with all the daemons.

...

Almost all the daemons. There was a handful nervously cheering as I turned on them.

1/2

>>96092949

"Explain yourselves" I demanded.

"I'm Necoho's handmaiden. He would congratulate you if he existed" said the least anxious one in tweed.

"I'm a manifestation of neurosis and autism!" said the one wearing oversized goggles, who was furiously programming with her toes. "I am the niggling impetus that drives mortal minds to build trainsets and play Sonic the Hedgehog long after getting married! Or passing marrying age, at least"

"...I am currently applying for a position as the Greater Bad, a rival figure to the Greater Good" sulked the one in a perverse vaguely asian dominatrix-like military uniform who looked constantly dejected. "It's. It's very hard trying to get the Tau to believe in liberating anarchy..."

"Oh cry me a river, I'M trying to be the bogeyman of the Votann, the calamity in the darkness of space incarnate. Call me the Stalking Dark" ranted the one in minor's overalls "HOW ABOUT YOU TRY MEANINGFULLY BOTHERING A SPECIES WITH INEXPLICABLE WARP RESISTANCE?"

"I'm not actually a daemon at all!" said the wolfgirl in a wolf pelt. "I'm actually a helpful guardian spirit of the Space Wolves, from the planet Fenris!"

Even with their own implausible backstories, the others immediately turned on her in disbelieving fury. "BULLSHIT"

"No it's true, go check, Fenris is just crawling with savage yet noble wolf spir-ACK!" yelped the wolfgirl as the daemonic(?) roll call devolved into an all-out brawl of daemons accusing each other of having impossible backstories.

I just kind of stared at the daemonic equivalent of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia for a while before deciding it was so pitiful that instead of destroying them, I just branded them with Surrender Oaths and planted them on my friendly giant frog-shaped planet (who WOULD have been the Immaterium proto-deity of the Old Ones if they hadn't lobotomised it long ago) before finding tutelary spirit positions for them in my cosmos.

2/2

>>96092590
It originally had monster race as a purchasable perk, you updated it to make it only accessible to monster origin.

Is there is fatherless behavior, then what qualifies as motherless behavior?

>>96093403
Char.

>>96093234
Oh yea, that was scuffed. Not sure why I had it like that in the first place.

>>96092225
It was a shame that Captain "Princess" Hibana was so evil, and not just because she was so hot, lolfirepun. The fact of the matter was, power wouldn't fill the hole inside her.

"You're only hurting yourself," he told her. And indeed, her attacks were backfiring. Her dozens of small fire attacks, while beautiful (no, don't even think about it Jumper), were ineffective against a Second Generation with Jumper's control. Any ember that struck an unprotected part of his body became an armor plate, and the ones that struck his plates caused explosions she had to shrink back from. If he could get close to her, the fight would be over immediately, but she was surprisingly graceful in high heels.

"Don't you lecture me!" Hibana snapped, preparing a special attack.

"Sorry, I don't mean to. But it's obvious you're not happy. I'm sure you've seen it in the mirror, that scowl. Every day. Power and prestige doesn't make it go away, does it?"

"Shut up, fool." And she conjured a tree of fire. A cherry tree in full bloom. Beautiful. This time Jumper couldn't help himself, and got hit. That hurt, but what really threw him was the sudden, strong sense of vertigo.

For a moment, he had no idea where he was, but he powered through it. "Only people can make you smile."
(cont)

>>96093432
Hibana was running out of room to backtrack, so she launched an even bigger attack of fire petals, and Jumper pulled out his trump card: the bracer on his arm that turned his armor plates into mines. He laid them out in a semicircle around and behind her, cornering her. She launched her last desperate attack-

-what a beautiful way this would be to die-

-no, focus!-

-he converted the petals into armor as they came, managing to juggle the heavy load-

-goofed it-

-protected all his vitals and exposed skin-

-Hibana's attack blew off his protective hat and coat-

-and his shirt-

-and his pants. Jumper stood there, frozen, mortified. He heard Iris say something like "There's two of them now" but he didn't fully register it. Because now he was NAKED in front of GIRLS.

After what seemed like an eternity of indecision, Jumper went dogeza. Hibana promptly stomped on him. And stomped on him some more. "That wasn't my fault," he managed.

"I didn't say you could speak," she said curtly. She stomped on him harder. Jumper thought she was going to drive her heel right through his skull, but eventually she stopped.

And then, oddly, surrendered. Or at least, agreed to work with Company 8. Jumper didn't really understand why, but it definitely had something to do with the new smile on her face.

Princess Hibana would come by Company 8 rather often after that. When she did, Jumper made sure to pull out all the stops at dinner, steak or chicken with either his famous mashed potatoes or sweet potato fries. Hibana was a demanding guest, and seemed to disdain actually eating with Company 8, and would usually join him in the kitchen.

>>96093498
>letting a woman treat you like that
Please turn in your male license.

Destiny update: The Nine shot JFK in Destiny. We don't know why, but apparently it was done with a gravity-based weapon.

>>96093517
Hibana's a giga sub simp to people she actually likes like Shinra being her Hero so dude unironically fucked himself with that writing.

>>96093546
Wut? I thought destiny was hundreds of years in the future?

Rolled 15 (1d100)

Rolled 65, 56 = 121 (2d100)

>>96092590
>Pic
It's crazy that Magnus Carlsen is such a bitch he threw a fit over a dude beating him at Chess and tried to have the guy basically cancelled. Take the L, bro, you're not God. You play chess.

>>96092590
>Because futa.
Ah so you're a mentally ill asshole pushing your fetish on people for no reason. Of course. Kill yourself.

I have decided to return to jumpmaking.

I shall create a Ganon’d jump.

>>96093742
Is there a contingent of Jumpers into handsome older sorcerer-kings?

>>96093730
nah, that anal bead cheating shit unironically comes up constantly
not as in someone actually cheating with anal beads but as in every other dude who wins gets accused and every female chess player who's autistic enough to become an actual professional player and not just woman's league or whatever gets accused of cheating with shit like supercomputer lip balms

>>96093772
>the brain consumes calories just like any other part of the body
>thinking hard burns additional calories
>chess masters have been observed to lose a pound or two over the course of grandmaster-level matches due the sheer mental workload involved
>half of that brainpower is dedicated to predicting every possible permutation of the next seven moves, while the other half is dedicated to being a massive fucking autist

>>96093772
That just shows how shitty the chess community is.

>>96093763
Possibly, it’s a nice aesthetic. Just don’t be an asshole. Which is admittedly a very difficult prospect for Ganon, but he still has swag.

>>96093799
>don't be an asshole
We're talking about sorcerer-kings, anon. The job description is "I do what I want"

>>96093803
Hopefully his dance skills will make up for it.

>>96093730
I don't get the joke I just like Centurii.

Sorry.

>>96093739
...Are you new? Yes, I like futa. And Sex&blood is a jump I made specifically for the futa. I'm terribly sorry that you don't like my writing, but quite frankly that just means it sucks to be you.

>>96093742
>A zelda jump not made by me
I'm watching you.

>>96093590
The Nine are giant clumps of dark matter that obtain consciousness from the life inhabiting planets in the solar system. Unlike the Vex who have to use all kinds of loopholes to noclip through the past and future, the Nine perceive all of space-time at once so smoothbrained Back To The Future-style linear time travel is something they can do. They also really don't like doing it because any potential injury they experience lasts forever from their perspective.

Also the Nine have been scheming for a long, long time-back before Earth reached the Golden Age.

>>96093848
>I don't get the joke I just like Centurii.
The pic you posted is a reference to Magnus Carlsen and/or his fans accusing a dude who beat him at cheating using vibrating anal beads

>>96093877
...How would that even help? Is someone going to vibe him his opponents battle strategy or something?

>>96093878
Allegedly, that's what happened. He was given move instructions by a third party pulsing morse code through the beads.

>>96093848
>...Are you new? Yes, I like futa. And Sex&blood is a jump I made specifically for the futa. I'm terribly sorry that you don't like my writing, but quite frankly that just means it sucks to be you.
It's not your writing thats the issue, the fact you're a prick for forcing your fetish when all it would have taken is a single line of. You don't have to become a futa or something and that perk becomes usable to anyone. Because the setting itself is actually just about fucking vampires,

>>96094206

>>96080959 (OP)
What price do you think the genie in one piece would be? The rub rub fruit? I'd like to buy it and awaken it, but I don't like the rubbing part, can I pretend it goes away after it awakens? Yes, I know I can't give it actual genie abilities like it is a mythical genie fruit, its a paramecia and not a zoan.
I'd say 300 bucks for it and 300 bucks for awakening, 600 cp is good enough?
Psychoanon's one piece jump.
I mean, I have ways around it, so it doesn't matter if I still need to rub myself to summon it, but I feel like removing its need to rub contionusly and making it like a yonko commander, like queen or king in power its good enough? Not factoring any other summoning perks that boost summon's power.

>>96094321
The jump isn't full of futa, its full of vampires. There is exactly one futa, the mc. Nice ignorant post though.

>>96094334
>300
There's no 300 price tier. Were you accounting for the stipend when you wrote this? As for the fruit itself, you could give it whatever abilities you want. Paramecia fruits can do more magic bullshit than any other type of fruit. That being said, the canon version probably isn't worth 600 or maybe not even 400. 200 probably?

>>96094367
I feel like 400 for it would be fair, since you are summoning an actual being that is intelligent and sapient. I know you mention fruits like luffy and big mom are 600, which is fair. But I really don't see the genie being worth very close to their price, since even at yonko physical stats, its got only physical stats and some smoke abilities.

I'm at 342 chapter of one piece, so I know the genie fights sanji post time skip, but I really don't know how strong sanji would be and if an awakening would put the genie aroun yonko commander level.
I feel like 400cp for it is too much, its got sentience and sapience, but that's its special ability, beyond being strong. 300 is decent in my opinion.

>>96092101
I don't know, there is still quite a few reveals left in the series.
Right now I was thinking that I could just remove the background restriction for the capstones, seeing how Father-kun is becoming a Demon Lord by getting the blessings/powers of the demon lords he fought and how Lucifer can use the same free-form miracles than Father can.

Probably would need to add Michael's Sword Replica and Lucifer's incomplete omniscience, and maybe Bel's Ark? Not sure if that counts as a regular spell.

And we still have Baba Yaga and whatever Satan has planned to deal with a demon lord Father-kun.
>>96092351
He is just a cute tsundere rival. Also, Lucifer also said that Bel's plan could have succeeded and that he would have been happy with that ending too, meaning that Bel's barricade worked not only on Mammon but on all Demon Lords and also the angels.
>not anywhere near Lucifer's level but at the same time it's been shown the only non-Lucifer demon lords who can manifest angelic stuff are those who got their hands on pieces of angels? So either Satan has a vivisected angel in storage or there's something else going on.
I think Lucifer is the strongest Demon Lord mostly because a matter of compatibility right now. Sure, he probably has the most raw power, but it was said no demon can't win against the angelic power of Satan's sword. And Lucifer holds the same power.

Also, Satan's angelic power comes from his sword, which is a replica of Michael's sword. How he can wield it freely is still to be seeing. We probably need to wait to see who is the person frozen in Cocytus (seems like Lilith).

>>96094404
That tier of pricing just doesn't exist is what I'm telling you. I'd lean more towards 200 cuz I don't remember it doing anything particularly impressive.
>Yonko physical stats
Having Yonko physical stats is insane. There's like 4 characters in the entire series that could easily beat someone with Yonko physical stats and those characters are basically gods. Luffy's awakened fruit could arguably get you to Yonko level on its own and that's a cumulative 900 points. Granted, physical stats aren't all there is to a Yonko's power since at least half the equation is Haki.

>>96094367
>maybe not even 400. 200 probably?
The Genie seems to be quite strong on its own. Like, cutting several ships in half strong at least.

>>96093878
Some kind of convoluted explanation that made no sense. Magnus is honestly just really fucking petty and got mad because actually losing set him back from his goal (3000 ELO) massively.
Last I heard he's now saying that professional chess is dumb and speed chess is the best.

>>96094429
Ok bro, in the doc it says something about low level logia also being 200 cp so since the genie is objectively below a logia, even a weak one, I'll just put it at 200.
What about placing it at king and queen level? The fat obese dinosaur guy and the pterodactyl that fights zoro? They are probably more realistic power boost for the genie? I mean, i could probably buy some broken summoning perk, but that's just purely talking about the genie and in-universe boost he would reliably get.
I feel like yonko commanders would be a realistic goal?

>>96094433
Yeah, but generally Devil Fruits' strength is dependent on the user's. The fruit probably couldn't do shit if a random 9 year old ate it

>>96094451
I'm pretty sure the strength of the genie is its own and independent of the user. The 9 year old would have the same exact genie in terms of power as the big mom son using it. Nta.

>>96094449
>objectively below a logia
Logias are really overhyped at the beginning of the series.
>King and Queen level
That's probably fine.

>>96094451
>Yeah, but generally Devil Fruits' strength is dependent on the user's. The fruit probably couldn't do shit if a random 9 year old ate it
Thats incorrect.

The various logia have the exact same power unawakened regardless of age.

The only exception to this would fruits that actually use your body as the baseline for something,

>>96094459
Based on what? Zoan DFs have animal souls in them and the user's strength they get from the fruit is still dependent on their own strength and not the strength of the soul in the fruit

>>96094463
>The various logia have the exact same power unawakened regardless of age.
No they don't. The Admirals had to train to be able to change the climates of whole islands. The only thing that's the same is it turning your body into the type of fruit. I'm pretty sure Oda even said as much in an SBS.

>>96094467
>No they don't. The Admirals had to train to be able to change the climates of whole islands.
You are mistaking learning how to use the fruit vs raw power. Those are entirely different things.

The raw power the fruit is exactly the same regardless of who uses it. If you don't understand this, you actually don't know how shit works in one piece.

>>96094465
The one piece wiki says the user us unchanged by the devil fruit upon eating it, the user doesn't gain any spacial abilities beyond rubbing creating the genie.
There is no indication that being physically strong or weak would affect the genie itself.

>>96094473
>The raw power the fruit is exactly the same regardless of who uses it.
No, you are just wrong. Luffy had to train to unlock higher gears. Momonosuke had to become an adult to be a big dragon like Kaido and not a shitty tiny dragon. Law unlocked more abilities by training his fruit. People explicitly train their fruit powers to make them stronger.

>>96094482
That's how devil fruits work in general. Not all of them work like that, to be fair, so maybe it could have a flat strength, but generally speaking the strength of the fruit scales with the user.

>>96094498
>No, you are just wrong. Luffy had to train to unlock higher gears
No I'm not, you're mistaking skill for power. Luffy "unlocked" something that was already there. That is a skill you idiot. ODA has fucking said devil fruits power doesn't grow, the user becomes more skilled. Now awakening throws that in question frankly, but even that is just use new uses of the fruit and not an increase in the raw power of the fruit itself. The raw power of the fruit stays the same.

You are being an actual retard.

>>96094501
But this would make the genie really broken in the hands of a jumper. I always complete jojo jumps first, yours, since jojo is my favourite anime. Even pretending stands dont exist, nobody in one piece is beating a vampire with hamon or an ultimate lifeform jumper.
I really hope the genie could eat another devil fruit, maybe if i buy your " za ha ha ha" perk i could wank it and give the genie a devil fruit?

>>96094516
Where did Oda say that?
>>96094520
>Nobody in One Piece is beating a vampire with Hamon or an ultimate lifeform
Just keep reading, little bro. My god...

>>96094531
I've seen mihaw cut through ice at marine fort for example. That's impressive, but cellular manipulation like kars or even just vampirism with no sunlight weakness. Would be way too much for any one piece character. Sure, drop kars into one piece in onigashima and kaido would splatter him in 2 seconds, max. Assuming armament haki protects you from being eaten by the pillarmens absorbing ability. I don't think it will. But anyway, kars has a 400 iq and wont need to sleep or eat for years as an ulf being. He could learn haki and conquerors so fast, he'd wreck everyone and i don't think one piece characters can survive hamon that is as hot as the surface of the sun if magma devil fruit is the most powerful logia devil fruit.
Plus, can't kars just make devil fruits himself anyway?

Cultivator Jumpers. Did you jump directly into cultivation in your chain or did you start in less meditation / absurd power growth jumps. If you started in non-cultivation jumps how did they affect your foundation / ease your cultivation?

>>96094544
Jumpers would get eaten alive in a cultivation jump without massive plot armour, especially 1st time jumpers.
No, you are courting death.

>>96094541
Multiple characters could probably straight up disintegrate Kars. Aokiji could just freeze him, which was canonically how he lost. Many other devil fruits render him helpless through magic bullshit.
>Magma devil fruit is the most powerful Logia devil fruit
They can also withstand lightning, which is 5 times hotter than the sun. I wouldn't put too much stock into using science as a basis for anything in One Piece. It didn't even reduce Joseph to ash on contact and he's basically a normal human, so the explicitly superhuman One Piece characters are gonna be fine. The flesh thing could be an issue for a lot of characters but there's like no way he's as fast as high tier One Piece characters to even hit them in the first place. He literally just gets stay checked.
>Can't he make devil fruits
No. They're magical, not biological.

>>96094531
>Where did Oda say that?
I'm not going through a million SBS archives to find where he talks about it.

Please give me a single example of someone using a devil fruit power increases its raw power, that isn't attributed to literally just better understanding of the fruits power set/skill. I'll wait I already know you can't because devil fruits are basically green latern rings. There is a set power, and you can come with a lot of different ways of using it or become more skilled at using it, but that is just using the power in a clever way.

There are external ways of increasing devil fruit power like rumble balls theotrically.

But there is quite literally not a single example int he entire fucking story of one piece where a devil fruit that lets say shoots fire, becomes able to shoot MORE fire.

Or for example the TON TON fruit.

Every single luffy example of his fruit, is him just coming up with new ways of using the fruit.

Doesn't vegapunk make devil fruits? What about smile fruits? Vegapunk has a brain fruit, so his iq is probably a lot bigger than 400.
But again, kars has forever to train in haki and eat one piece characters to get nourishment.
Obviously, a jumper with vampirism or ulf abilities and stands would wreck one piece, like WoU stand power. But we're just talking physical powers here.

>>96094575
>Doesn't vegapunk make devil fruits?
He replicates them, but he can only replicate zoans more or less perfectly. He couldn't replicate logias at all, and the paramecia fruits have to use "green blood" to mimic the powers correctly.

Also the only reason Kars would lose against logia users is the lack of the way of hurting them. Otherwise he basically mogs all non logia users.

>>96094544
I hold off on cultivation jumps to do a bunch of lower level martial arts jumps and body focused jumps, so when I make it to the cultivation jump my body is god tier.

>>96094573
So you made it up. Good to know.
>Please give me a single example of someone using a devil fruit power increases its raw power, that isn't attributed to literally just better understanding of the fruits power set/skill.
Did you read my last post at all? You very conveniently ignored the Momonosuke example. If you want another example, Robin can now manifest giant limbs and a demon Avatar with her fruit. That has nothing to do with her understanding of it. It's just a stronger power than before.

>>96092465
Because careless murder is bad even if you can fix it later. Imagine a healer beating you within an inch of your life and restoring you afterwards, its still assault in the end even if the damage got fixed.

>>96094575
Vegapunk's brain fruit just gives him infinite mental storage capacity.
>Eat one Piece characters
If he eats multiple Devil fruit users he'll accidentally get their powers and blow up, though I don't know if that would really kill him it seems like it could if it can kill basically any character in the One Piece universe.

>>96094595
Nah, its character growth event. Being beaten within an inch or your life and healed in seconds would be good for your growth as person.
Trust me bro.

>>96094595
Some would say that it's romantic.

>>96094588
>Otherwise he basically mogs all non logia users.
This is like saying Kars mogs the 5 Kage from Naruto.

>>96094593
>So you made it up. Good to know.
Not an argument.
Did you read my last post at all?
Yes, its bad.
>Momonosuke had to become an adult to be a big dragon like Kaido and not a shitty tiny dragon
I already addressed this you fucking moron.
>The only exception to this would fruits that actually use your body as the baseline for something,
That isn't the fruit growing stronger you completely fucking dipshit. For example moron. If a fruit were to use how much you WEIGH to do something and you got FATTER, that isn't the fruit growing stronger now it is. It's doing the same thing, but you did something externally to make the base line ability stronger.

A zoan fruit is going to use the body as a baseline so a child is going to be a cub, then he gets older then like he the body of a lion.

>Robin can now manifest giant limbs and a demon Avatar with her fruit.
Which is a skill use dipshit. Her manifesting of big limbs are often depicted as a combo of multiple limbs together or maybe thats unlocked via awakening. Regardless, skill use, not baseline increase.

Please try again you fucking moron.

>>96094612
No it isn't. Kars can also just kill humans by touching them.

There is basically only two non logias that are a threat and its just a game of rocket tag at that point. Which is the rumble fruit and op fruit.

>>96094621
>>96094613
I can't stand you retarded spics. I'm so sick of your bullshit.

>>96094626
>No argument again
Classic retard

Honestly, kars or a vampire with big mom's devil fruit would probably buck break the setting of one piece.

>>96094628
You know what? Nice bait. You got me to bite, I admit it.

>>96094638
My post wasn't bait. It's how they actually work, You can't back up your claim with any proof because there are no examples in entire fucking manga where the raw strength of the fruit itself changes. Only how the user themselves use them.

We never see see someone training to SHOOT MORE FIRE IN RAW Numbers, Just people exercising greater control over what it already did.

You know this and its why you're seething. Get wrecked you arrogant fuckwad.

>>96094629
To be fair, I don't think Kars would even need one.

>>96094463
Nta but the admirals having special moves they can make with their fruit imply that there is a learning curve and growth.

>>96094783
Every single move you're talking about is just someone using the fruit.

Skill curve isn't the same as RAW fruit power increasing.

>>96094595
isn't that how they train in The Wrong Way To Use Healing Magic

>>96094621
Sorry for freaking out on you, specifically. I was getting really frustrated with the other guy. You didn't deserve that.

JUMPMAKERS!

How goes your current project?

>>96094621
>non logias
>rumble fruit
did you mean the tremor tremor? The rumble was Enel's.

>>96094824
Not very quickly. I just don't work on it enough because other stuff distracts me. You'll get the incestkino eventually, I promise!

>>96094463
>>96094467
>>96094473
>The various logia have the exact same power unawakened regardless of age.
>The only exception to this would fruits that actually use your body as the baseline for something,
I'm pretty certain output of a Logia is tied to their stamina. Also my current fan theory is that the reason no Logia's have awakened yet is because of the fact that the closer you are in the way you act to the nature of your devil fruit the more likely you are to awaken it. Which is hard to do for the elemental logia's since elements have many emotional attributions.

>>96094833
Shit you're correct. I mean the Gura Gura no Mi.

>>96094845
>I'm pretty certain output of a Logia is tied to their stamina.
The series has never been consistent on that, since we see people spam their powers nonstop like persona and I'm pretty sure that bitch isn't doing cardio.

>>96094854
>since we see people spam their powers nonstop like persona and I'm pretty sure that bitch isn't doing cardio.
Which ones? Cause like Caesar Clown modified his so his example is inconsistent, Enel's is broken out of the box and the guy is surprisingly durable considering he takes a Reject dial and then keeps going for quite a bit after taking many hard hits from Luffy. I think Caribou is some of the weakest logia showings but he also isn't that strong outside of the "most people can't damage him" thing.

>>96094839
Thank you for your work Psycho!

>>96094871
This woman was my example

>>96094839
>incestkino
What jump is that

>>96094451
Not all of them. See the Barrier fruit, it was a strong as it was with Barto than with an old man.

>>96094894
>>96094871
Oh shes not a logia, but shes someone that has a power that projects something.

Logia examples, I mean all of the logia users just spam their powers endlessly. When do you ever see a single logia user get winded from power use?

>>96094824
I just finished the fourth magic out of a total of 31. Only 27 more to go.

>>96094913
>>96094871
In fact the only fruit I remember off the top of my head as having stamina issues is the OP OP fruit and I feel like that was literally just ODE throwing in alimitation because the fruit is overpowered as shit

>>96094913
>When do you ever see a single logia user get winded from power use?
I mean most Logia's we see only do so for short periods of time or are freaks of nature like Ace or Blackbeard who can fight for weeks. But regardless what I am trying to get at is that I believe Logia moderate their powers so that they don't overexert themselves when using their abilities unless they are doing something that NEEDS all the power like Akainu and Aokiji on Punk Hazard. But I assume there is a reason Ace doesn't use stuff like Great Flame Commandment whenever he fights someone on par with his level and that's cause using that much power probably is tiring but smaller invocations aren't.

>>96094929
Luffy's Gear 5 does have stamina issues but they are being mitigated as he uses it more and presumably builds stamina.

>>96094947
The issue is the only stated example of stam issues that I know of period with devil fruits is the OP OP fruit so thats just raw speculation with no proof of it being true or false. Also not a logia.

The other issue, is that even if out put is determined by stam, that isn't the fruit getting stronger.A fruit getting more powerful would be like the flame fruit actually being able to increase the limit of how hot the flames actually are over time. Using the body stam is baseline human ability not power of the fruit.

>>96094962
>A fruit getting more powerful would be like the flame fruit actually being able to increase the limit of how hot the flames actually are over time. Using the body stam is baseline human ability not power of the fruit.
That's a weird way to put it. In that case I suppose they don't? By that concept a devil fruit awakening wouldn't be the fruit getting stronger it's just the user figuring it out and being most adept in its use as well.

>>96094970
>That's a weird way to put it. In that case I suppose they don't? By that concept a devil fruit awakening wouldn't be the fruit getting stronger it's just the user figuring it out and being most adept in its use as well.

It's not really a weird concept though. Can you build stam without having a devil fruit power? The answer is obviously yes.
>By that concept a devil fruit awakening wouldn't be the fruit getting stronger it's just the user figuring it out and being most adept in its use as well.
Yes. Exactly. Awakening the fruit is just something the fruit could always do, you just weren't skilled enough to do it or hadn't learned the trick.

Devil fruits have skill curves, That isn't in dispute.

Devil fruit users get more skilled at using their power and a lot of their limit are simply imagination. With some exceptions, like basic bitch zoans or something.

I imagine there are just some fruits you can't do that much with.

>>96094991
>Devil fruit users get more skilled at using their power and a lot of their limit are simply imagination
My point was more that it's not "just" skill. There are some aspects of each power that are tied to aspects of the wielder. Like obviously Nico Robin's limbs get stronger as she works out and she can make more of them, that requires a bit more than just "knowing more about the power".

>>96094892
No problem.
>>96094899
Coffin of Andy and Leyley.

>>96095004
>My point was more that it's not "just" skill. There are some aspects of each power that are tied to aspects of the wielder. Like obviously Nico Robin's limbs get stronger as she works out and she can make more of them, that requires a bit more than just "knowing more about the power".
And my point that is unrelated to the power itself. Robin can get swole without the fruit.

It should be noted btw, its not like the body of the user itself is consistent.

Psychoanon tried to use Momonosuke as an argument but that is an artificial devil fruit for one. So its not clear if that alone had any sort of effect.

But that one for example he was stuck as a child dragon until he became an adult and then he could become an adult dragon I guess. But thats still going on baseline body.


HOWEVER. We know that there are devil fruits that are fed to swords and that basically entirely fucking ignores the age of the sword, the size of the sword, it just automatically becomes a giant fucking elephant. Pic related.

If its the case that zoan furits have SOULS,

It's possible that if momo had eaten the real fruit he could have become a full dragon at the start and this is a problem with the artificial fruits soul I dunno.

That part is pure speculation.

>>96095022
>Coffin of Andy and Leyley.
Hopefully there is an option to start the jump as young andy so I can stop leyley from committing murder and mold her into the yandere I want.

>>96095022
>Coffin of Andy and Leyley.
I'm baffled at how long it has taken for someone to make a jump for this considering how popular it was.

So basically a lore accurate one piece devil fruit awakening, of the genie fruit. Wont make my devil fruit 10x stronger, just "enlightenment" of sorts where I actually understand how and what my devil fruit is and works. I mean, devil fruits supposedly automatically allow you to know what they do if you eat them. Supposedly.
Whatever, i'll just cheat and game the setting by using some dumb summoning perk from another jump.
If I was in one piece and forced at gunpoint to eat a devil fruit, i'd probably eat the invisible devil fruit and peek at women's bathrooms and steal candy and food from stores, while being invisible.

>>96095063
>Wont make my devil fruit 10x stronger,
All you really see from it is increased versatility as far as I can tell.

But we don't really see that many awakened fruits.

I mean what the fuck is awakening buggys fruit going to do for example?

>>96095057
Jumpmakers are largely autistic and autists prefer to stick with what they know instead of trying new things.

>>96095025
>And my point that is unrelated to the power itself. Robin can get swole without the fruit.
We are talking about using a power better? By training to be more durable she mitigates the drawbacks of feedback injuries from the limbs she projects and by getting stronger her limbs can leverage more force. Just cause she can get swole without the fruit doesn't make the fruit, or how the body connects to the fruit, irrelevant.
>>>96095063
>I mean, devil fruits supposedly automatically allow you to know what they do if you eat them. Supposedly.
They do provide basic knowledge of how they work. But its mainly in terms of how to activate not in all the possible uses. Like take Ace. He almost certainly knew how to spew fire and become fire from the start. But his technique firefly light required him to learn how to remotely activate and expand small balls of fire.

>>96095079
>All you really see from it is increased versatility as far as I can tell.
Awakened Zoans are just flat up more durable, faster, and stronger. Paramecia are more versatile. Mythical Zoans due to also having Paramecia-like abilities tend to get both.

>>96095057
The game wasn't done and still isn't, I'm just making it early because I can't wait anymore and there was a new chapter release back in April.

>>96095089
>We are talking about using a power better?
I already said there is a skill curve and I already talked about body baseline. Robins fruit just uses whatever her baseline is.

and my elephant example kinda throws a lot of assumptions on even how that works into question because how does a sword have stam. How does a sword increase its stam. How does any of that work.

>>96095109
>and my elephant example kinda throws a lot of assumptions on even how that works into question because how does a sword have stam. How does a sword increase its stam. How does any of that work.
Zoans explicitly do have subconcious wills of their own I believe this was stated in story. Also a sword probably has stamina based on how well it was forged. Honestly this shouldn't be too surprising since Zoro's swords are often portrayed as demonic and Enma tries to take your haki.

>>96095124
>>96095109
Also this does technically mean that if your sword exercises in it's zoan form it might improve the quality of it's sword form.

>>96095128
NTA
Probably not, but zoans give you a permanend boost in physical stats, so its possible the sword's normal form was improved somewhat after it became an animal.

>>96094991
CORRECT, the GOHAN-GOHAN fruit is only useful for filling you with immeasurable disappointment and anti-intellectual rage.

>>96095124
>Zoans explicitly do have subconcious wills of their own I believe this was stated in story. Also a sword probably has stamina based on how well it was forged. Honestly this shouldn't be too surprising since Zoro's swords are often portrayed as demonic and Enma tries to take your haki.
Yeah but my point is for that is regarding the age of the user.

Is a sword considered an adult because its complete? If the sword is half finished is it considered a child? Is it going straightly by how long the sword has existed. I wonder how that works.

I personally just think the artificial dragon fruit example that Psycho used, is because those fruits don't have souls or new souls, so it goes off the state of the user.

Are there any other examples of child zoan users that have like young animal form of their fruit? I can't think of one off the top of my head.

>>96095141
Does that fruit come with an ovebearing tiger mom I can fuck?

>>96095143
>Are there any other examples of child zoan users that have like young animal form of their fruit? I can't think of one off the top of my head.
chopper but a lot of the images of him really goung after eating the fruit are from the anime which is questionable canon.

he's like 15 or something when he meets the crew

>>96095192
Wasn't Chopper's human form always full sized? Like when he went berserk after Hiriluk died.

>>96095214
I'm trying to see if the manga ever showed images of that

>>96095192
Hiriluk died like 8 years ago and bro was still giant, same as when in the flashback years before meeting Hiriluk he was a giant.
>>96095236
Wasn't his backstory all about him being shunned because he was a freak reindeer rudolph and a freaky giant yeti to humans?

>>96095248
>Wasn't his backstory all about him being shunned because he was a freak reindeer rudolph and a freaky giant yeti to humans?
Thats what I REMEMBER and if true that ads way more credence to the idea that the artificial devil fruit example, is related to being artifical.

But I'm trying to actually find something confirming it.

>>96095146
Of COURSE, it's a larger fruit that grows atop the GOHAN-GOHAN fruit. Smothering it as it tries to reach it's full potential, stubbornly clinging to it even as it tries to MIGRATE, and causing it PAIN simply by trying to grow CLOSER to it.

>>96095253
You can check chapters 140~145 if you want proof. His human form was always fully grown even in the manga.

>>96095301
Well there you go. Sounds like Momonosuke is a special case then, probably related to being an artificial zoan.

>>96094824
Just formally started it last night.
>>96094750
>Ultimate Kars has the ability to rapidly adapt his body with features from any animal
>Can also communicate with animals
Imagine being a pirate with a single primary superpower that also gives you a crippling weakness to water, and then Chad Vampire Aquaman rolls up on you and torpedos your ship. And if you physically touch him, you die because he just absorbs your body.

>>96095327
Has it been confirmed how blackbeard steals fruit powers yet? I wonder if Kars eating someone would give him a devil fruit

>>96095343
I don't know, but Kars stacking Devil Fruits would be even more terrifying.
>huh, I no longer seem to be able to move underwater
>good thing I don't need to breathe
>hm, adapting myself with fish parts doesn't seem to work anymore, maybe the water is doing something to me?
>making my skin waterproof didn't help; maybe it's because i'm touching the water?
>yup, shed layers of my waterproof skin to form a wetsuit around me and now I'm back in business

>>96095343
>Has it been confirmed how blackbeard steals fruit powers yet?
No, though he might just use the old method of killing fruit users and having fruits nearby to at a vessels for the power.

>>96095327
>Just formally started it last night.
ganbatte anon

>>96094824
Getting started on Beyond Rubies. Thanks to the anon who requested the jump also dumping a bunch of ideas for it, I've already got a decent amount of notes to start with.

>>96095343
You can get someone's devil fruit power by eating them, as seen when Big Mom ate Mother Caramel and got the soul fruit from her. He probably ate Whitebeard's heart.

>>96094824
I shat out a jumpable wip of Street Cultivation because I was annoyed at myself for always using Lone Valkyrie's Generic Xianxia to visit the setting. I have no intention of learning to fluff to finish it

Would having multiple bodies, like say from the Helltaker jump, could jumper get multiple devil fruits?

>>96094428
>Right now I was thinking that I could just remove the background restriction for the capstones, seeing how Father-kun is becoming a Demon Lord by getting the blessings/powers of the demon lords he fought and how Lucifer can use the same free-form miracles than Father can.
And don't forget about how Bel was actually going to turn Father-Kun into his Witch.

>>96095343
>>96095405
Isn't the two popular theories rn are either Two hearts or cannibalism?

>>96095843
With a kiss.

>>96095926
Or by just pricking eachothers fingers and drinking the blood because Bal wouldn't want to ruin his bro's chance at becoming an archmage.
Get your mind out of the gutter Imuri.

>>96094824
May as well post the WIP. Mainly just added a bunch of information really.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1355CdIegU1zwCeRRhnZsi-KxlZxvdiAg/view?usp=sharing

>>96096056
What would happen if you locked Seo Eun-hyun and Gohan in a room?

>>96096066
Seo Eun-hyun is a pretty chill and respectful guy so they'd probably just chat for a while. SEH might even envy that Gohan has the option to get away from violence at all to live a calm life.

>>96096071
>SEH might even envy that Gohan has the option to get away from violence at all to live a calm life.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH HIM, IS HE NOT A CULTIVATION MC

>>96096076
SEH just wants to live, he's thrown into the shithole of xianxia against his will and refuses to let it break him.

>>96096056
Looks neat, thanks Skyrim. How goes Star Rail btw?

>>96096135
Haven't caught up to the 3.4 story yet, but mostly the same as before since I've been focusing on other things recently.

>>96096056
Is it really necessay commiting genocide to enforce karma?

>>96096574
It's how the Radiance Eight Immortals want to do it. I may tinker a bit with the scenario later but right now it's just the Radiance Eight Immortal's true goal but as a scenario.

Gohan? Based as fuck.

>>96094824
Decently. Been browsing twittter for edits and captions for inspiration for Ganon’d. Debating if I should add a drop in origin and what I would even base that on.

Hear me out.


Trouble Busters Jump

>>96082796
>>96094824

Just finished it!

I also have two generics I never got around to finishing. One for all the high schools that include a course in using whatever generic powered thing students use in dangerous tournaments and fighting the equally generic monsters. The other is Generic Gaslight, which started after reading the Lady Mechanika comics. Though I honestly don't know if there's even any real difference between gaslight and steampunk.

>>96094544
I think the murim jump would be a good first jump. It looks finished, though I don't think the author ever cleaned and posted it for some reason.

>>96098446
If the post on the Bunker can be trusted, the author got hit with some nasty IRL stuff that killed his motivation to add more stuff.

>Hey guys, Im the guy that was making the murim jump, I dont know what to do with it really because I know the section for a cheat needs work and I never got around to adding the oc companions but I have had a lot of shit hit me lately right on the tail of the normal site going dead and really just lost any real motivation to finish it. I dont really know if Im going to finish it at this rate short of just saying "Here are examples of cheats, pay this one up front cp cost for access to a custom one"

>I dont know if or when I can finish it. Just tired. Have lost too many people in the last few weeks.

>>96094544
I like starting in weaker cultivation jumps. Tales of Demons and Gods or World of Cultivation are both pretty good for that

>>96098505
NTA but same. i've been using a thousand li as a babys first cultivation jump ever since it dropped.

>>96098522
A Thousand Li is actually a higher level than Tales of Demons and Gods, and World of Cultivation. Mostly because of the absolute bullshit you get up to at Nascent Soul level, but being able to launch an attack that cuts everyone off into the horizon is bullshit too

>>96098522
Also, very good choice as a first jump for being a cultivator. That True World Spirit Ring is absurdly helpful for ensuring you have an ample supply of cultivation resources

>>96098533
Oh really? I always got the feeling world of cultivation was much stronger. Or was that world seed. Could be misremembering the two. I don't know tales of demons and gods to well aside from apparently the MC being a utter bastard.

>>96094544
I went straight in. The first stage of the Triune Scriptures makes for a good powerbase.

>>96098619
World of Cultivation supposedly caps out at being able to destroy mountains, if anons here can be trusted.

Tales of Demons and Gods caps out at being able to lift like five tons, unless you luck into picking up a Law that doesn't have a god already. Or find another way to advance.

question for RWBY jumpers/loreknowers:
is salem's blood literally grimmjuice? like the same shit as the puddles that the dumb monsters come out of?

>>96098626
Given the first stage of triune scripture at the end can apparently match hylia/Demise from the main zelda timeline. It would be a very very good powerbase.

>>96098641
Oh interesting. Maybe I'll have to do tales of demons and gods earlier then next time.

Though now that its brought up I kinda do want to start a fresh xianxia chain.

>>96098680
>Given the first stage of triune scripture at the end can apparently match hylia/Demise from the main zelda timeline. It would be a very very good powerbase.
That’s the end of the first realm, the first stage is more Link and Zelda level.

>>96098709
Ah right. I mixed up stage and realm there. My bad. Thats fair first stage is much more grounded though still quite flexible and i'd peg as a decent bit above the average zelda/link. Still does its job of being a danm good powerbase start though. Maybe I'll try that sometime with a new chain.

>>96098662
It's ambiguous what Salem's biology is now being a post-mortal evil slime witch bitch, but when Hazel allahu ackbars her, she gets splattered into a smear of black sludge that starts slowly and automatically reconstructing itself.

>>96098764
>Still does its job of being a danm good powerbase start though.
Yeah, it’s the kind of thing that can carry you through plenty of street level jumps without being so powerful the setting can’t do anything to challenge you.

>Maybe I'll try that sometime with a new chain.
I usually go to Generic Xianxia to learn the Triune Scriptures, you can have a lot of fun with the idea of learning them there. Picking up expies of the Oracles as companions is nice.

>>96098833
>I usually go to Generic Xianxia to learn the Triune Scriptures, you can have a lot of fun with the idea of learning them there. Picking up expies of the Oracles as companions is nice.
Fair. I just gotta figure out what purchases in generic xianxia could be good for that to justify the Scriptures given there so strong a bit.

>>96098870
All you have to do is take the 400 level of the Cultivation Technique item, and if you use a discount for it you can get it down to 200.

>>96098921
Oh well that does simplify things a hell of a lot. A lot easier then going to the triune scriptures jump proper.

>>96098945
You could even join a sect that cultivates the Triune Scriptures, and since it’s a generic you could have it be a very warm and welcoming place. It helps that except for the very beginning of Soul Compass, external resources, while useful, are not a requirement.

>>96098994
Hmm I sort of like that idea. Though my first thought a bit is having cultivator society be a mix of standard xianxia ruthlessness with none scripture cultivators (Generally speaking there not all bad of course.) And generally, more merciful/Harmonic sub section of cultivators who follow the scriptures. Maybe the scripture cultivators all originally came from students of some legendary figure from long long ago who either discovered the triune scriptures or invented them before "Ascending" beyond the world there in.

Have some warm and welcoming places but still room for conflict.

>>96034534
>143 - Witch on the Holy Night
>Drawbacks
A Record of the Moon Princess (remake), Resting Witch Face, Sealing Designation, Magical Murder Mystery, Mystical Malice (1700)
>Location & Time
>Background choices
16 years old
Mysterious Witch (1300)
>Purchases
Reenactment of Mystery (600 CP level, Ploy Kickshaws) (Free)
Mystic Eyes of Enchantment (1200)
True Magician: First Magic (600)
Porcelain Vampire (Free)
Yumina (300)
Elegant Tea Assortment (Free)
Trump Cards (0)
Nursery Rhyme (Free)
>Ending Option
Move on

The Empire in Star Wars literally did nothing wrong.

>>96099222
>Though my first thought a bit is having cultivator society be a mix of standard xianxia ruthlessness with none scripture cultivators (Generally speaking there not all bad of course.) And generally, more merciful/Harmonic sub section of cultivators who follow the scriptures. Maybe the scripture cultivators all originally came from students of some legendary figure from long long ago who either discovered the triune scriptures or invented them before "Ascending" beyond the world there in.
Sounds fun. A safe place to learn, and the wider world to challenge you.

>Have some warm and welcoming places but still room for conflict.
Reminds me of what I’m writing for Generic Xianxia. I’ve got the idea of a Special Realm that was shaped by the Triune Scriptures, so the Courage (haven’t decided on proper names yet) realm is a vast, untamable wilderness filled with treasure and danger in equal measure.

>Filename
The main challenge of creating Heart Containers in Generic Xianxia is deciding which method to use. Are they a potion that takes an unusual shape, a weak artifact, something formed by an array? You’ve got several options.

>>96093498
Jumper wasn't the smartest guy in Company 8, but he wasn't Arthur, either. Around the time Hibana started feeding him by hand, he got the hint.

Hibana was a demanding girlfriend. She demanded a lot of his time, she demanded he call her 'princess,' she demanded he hold the door open, she demanded he dress nice, not that his clothes stayed on very long. No 'netflix and chill' for her. When she went shopping, he had to carry her bags, he had to tell her how this dress or that top looked (and “good” only worked the first or second time), and he had to help her test shoes. Their heels, mainly.

Yes, Hibana hadn't stopped doing that. She liked to sit in Jumper's lap, but she also liked to step on him. If he wasn't careful cleaning or getting things from a bottom shelf, she would put her feet up on his back. He'd tried talking to her about it, but she was both adamant and tight-lipped, saying only that she liked it and would keep doing it.

This might normally be a deal breaker, but as previously noted, Hibana was super hot. In fact, Jumper, reflected, I might normally kind of like having a hot girlfriend into weird things, if it weren't for this dang drawback. This is worth way more than a hundred points. What a ripoff!

>>96099370
Grand Moff Tarkin made a strategic miscalculation in thinking that investing in a wunderwaffe to blow up planets would cow dissidents rather than galvanizing them, where sinking that money, materiel, and manpower into modernizing the Imperial fleet would have paid much greater dividends.
Ol' Creamy Sheev basically doesn't even represent the Empire, he's a self-aware, mustache-twirling, puppy-kicking supervillain who slam-dunked millennia of Sith philosophy into the garbage so that he could revel in his own power and hated on everyone purely for the love of the game.
The Empire as an institution, yeah, basically nothing wrong.

>>96099500
But life wasn't all fast women and loose cars. There were people trying to kill Jumper, and the rest of Company 8, and arguably everyone else. Except for Shinra, whom they needed alive. The junior members got into a large-scale battle when they went to recruit a talented engineer named Vulcan – which was a problem, because Jumper wasn't a direct fighter and Arthur didn't have his sword.

“We just need as much knightly stuff as possible, right?” Jumper got out his lighter, and lit it. With a flick of his finger, the flame turned blue and shot off, becoming a plasma plate on the wannabe knight. Normally the plates were hexagonal, but Jumper made them more triangular this time, layering them together to look like actual armor.

Arthur frowned, and poked at them. “This is good, but scale mail isn't really a knight thing,” he complained. “More like a... hoplite, thing.”

Jumper monkeyed with it, arranging the plates into a rectangular grid. “There, now it's samurai armor.”

“Then I shall be a SAMURAI knight king!” Arthur lit Excalibur, and indeed, Jumper's handiwork had made his sword bigger. (No homo.)

The battle didn't actually go that great. Arthur was silly but genuinely very strong, and Jumper's minefield helped. Unfortunately, the White Clad had an infiltrator, and while Jumper knew about her, he also knew that no one would believe him – especially not Vulcan.

Still, he slipped an armor plate under the back of Vulcan's shirt (they feel like nothing to the wearer), and when Lisa took him hostage, pushed the button on his bracer to remote detonate it, knocking her throw a wall. Vulcan was less than pleased about either of those things, but he agreed to work with Company 8 afterwards. They weren't able to capture either her or Dr. Giovani, but they were at least able to keep them from getting the key to Amaterasu, which Jumper hid in his secret bolt hole.

>>96099520
>The Empire as an institution, yeah, basically nothing wrong.
Holy BASED and REDPILLED.

>>96099409

>Reminds me of what I’m writing for Generic Xianxia. I’ve got the idea of a Special Realm that was shaped by the Triune Scriptures, so the Courage (haven’t decided on proper names yet) realm is a vast, untamable wilderness filled with treasure and danger in equal measure.
That sounds good. maybe I'll nick that a bit if your cool with it. Or have it be something made by triune scriptures as a training realm. Some vast wilderness they put in experienced enough students to find survive in and find a way out eventually. Almost sort of like a minecraft world but less blocky and more xianxiaish. If they manage to get out on there own through one of the expected proper ways. (or even a unexpected though still impressive way.) They move onto the next rank in the sect. And get to keep whatever home/base they made in the training dimension if they want.


>The main challenge of creating Heart Containers in Generic Xianxia is deciding which method to use. Are they a potion that takes an unusual shape, a weak artifact, something formed by an array? You’ve got several options.
I admit I'm not sure. My gut thought is perhaps its a technique/small array taught to triune scriptures where if they defeat a strong enough void monster it transmutes the energy left behind by the monster into a heart container. Have it be originally be used by scripture users but its so useful it eventually gets adopted by other cultivator sects to.

Though now that im in a world building mood I think perhaps the reason not everyone does the scripture method is perhaps because of cultural differences and it's a fair bit harder then the standard cultivation methods in the world. They get seen as soft hearted or "weak" by the wider world from those inexperienced with them as a stereotype. But generally cut a smaller presence in the world outwardly because most tend not to boast

Beyond Rubies is jumpable and ready for the first round of feedback.
Also, obviously going on the QQ drive.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y1hFu8AZ6dtDDRFE9oFI0foQFI6OSxx3zxsOlQU7RT4/edit?usp=sharing

>>96099671
>That sounds good. maybe I'll nick that a bit if your cool with it.
I don’t have much written down at the moment, but here’s the description I have for the realm influenced by the Divine Delusion scripture.
>The Realm of Wisdom, so influenced by the Divine Delusion style, is an ever changing place. One might walk through a forest and emerge to find the ruins of a modern city, or descend deep into a cave to find a vast mountain that pierces the sky. The treasures of the realm do however tend to follow their surroundings, so if you wish to discover a set of blueprints for a hyperdrive you would need to find a space station.

>I admit I'm not sure. My gut thought is perhaps its a technique/small array taught to triune scriptures where if they defeat a strong enough void monster it transmutes the energy left behind by the monster into a heart container. Have it be originally be used by scripture users but its so useful it eventually gets adopted by other cultivator sects to.
My instinct is to use both the potion and array methods. For the potion side, you can make a Piece of Heart with ingredients that are fairly common and basic equipment, or if you’re skilled enough and have high quality equipment you can make an entire Heart Container. For the array method, a basic array can form a Piece of Heart in a week’s time, while the array of a master can form a Heart Container in about an hour.

>Though now that im in a world building mood I think perhaps the reason not everyone does the scripture method is perhaps because of cultural differences and it's a fair bit harder then the standard cultivation methods in the world.
To pull an idea from my notes for Fire Emblem cultivation, other cultivation methods being quicker could be the way to go. You can triple cultivate the Triune Scriptures for 500 to 1000 years and reach the peak of the first realm, or you can cultivate something else and reach a comparable level in 100 years.

>>96099873
>>96099671
>They get seen as soft hearted or "weak" by the wider world from those inexperienced with them as a stereotype.
Also they’d probably show a great deal of care for mortals living in their lands, which other cultivators would look down on. Meanwhile said mortals would revere them, and probably be the main source of new recruits.

>But generally cut a smaller presence in the world outwardly because most tend not to boast
Yeah, the Triune Scriptures practitioners would try to keep the peace.

>>96099873
>I don’t have much written down at the moment, but here’s the description I have for the realm influenced by the Divine Delusion scripture.
Sounds esoteric, like the realm of dreams almost in the magic style but a bit more material. Thanks May use chew on this a bit for world building.

>My instinct is to use both the potion and array methods. For the potion side, you can make a Piece of Heart with ingredients that are fairly common and basic equipment, or if you’re skilled enough and have high quality equipment you can make an entire Heart Container. For the array method, a basic array can form a Piece of Heart in a week’s time, while the array of a master can form a Heart Container in about an hour.
Hmm fair. I could see that.

>You can triple cultivate the Triune Scriptures for 500 to 1000 years and reach the peak of the first realm, or you can cultivate something else and reach a comparable level in 100 years.
That was my thought process a bit to. The acorn take longer to take root but the oak that grows from them is all the mightier and nurtures more then just itself... or some such poetic saying I suppose.


>Also they’d probably show a great deal of care for mortals living in their lands, which other cultivators would look down on. Meanwhile said mortals would revere them, and probably be the main source of new recruits.
Yeah I imagine there very kind by cultivator standards to mortals.
Thats honestly how I was thinking jumper would end up being part of them. He gets dumped into there lands and tries to wander a bit. Stick there neck out and try to help some people and eventually he gets noticed and scooped up as a recruit. And from there he gels with them fairly easily.

>Yeah, the Triune Scriptures practitioners would try to keep the peace.
Keeping the peace, Promoting harmony and making sure the regions not in chaos energy wise. any number of things.

>>96099971
>Sounds esoteric, like the realm of dreams almost in the magic style but a bit more material.
One might say the danger of the realm is for the scholar. Can an inquisitive mind bear to depart a land where there will always be something new to discover?

>Thanks May use chew on this a bit for world building.
The other idea I’ve fleshed out is each realm has a vast river running through it, with the rivers having special effects on those who immerse themselves in them.
>Wisdom realm – Blue river
>Clears away the effects of harmful memories, you will still remember your failures and embarrassments, but they will no longer have power over you.
>Makes you smarter, a few hours of soaking in the river each day for a week will be enough to make even the most simpleminded of fools into a person of average intelligence, a month and you would be quite clever, three months and you would be ranked among the brightest individuals to have ever lived, nine months and those other geniuses would seem like naïve children next to your unfathomable intellect.
>Improves your talent with Divine Delusion, not exceptionally so, but you would be in the top 10%.

>Power realm – Red river
>Clears away things such as doubt, depression and other weights upon the soul.
>Strengthens your will and presence, a few hours of soaking in the river each day for a week will be enough to make even the most weak willed of individuals into someone who can stand up for themselves, a month and you would be seen as a natural leader, three months and you would find gathering others to your banner as effortless as breathing, nine months and turning a hostile mob baying for your blood into a loyal force that would risk life and limb to see you upon the throne with but a few minutes to address them would seem no great feat to you.
>Improves your talent with Soul Compass, not exceptionally so, but you would be in the top 10%.

>>96100061
>>96099971
>Courage Realm – Green River
>Clears away physical infirmities to a far greater degree than the other rivers, a few hours of soaking would see a man at death’s door from age, missing limbs and badly injured, emerge hale and whole in the prime of life.
>Improves your body and appearance, a few hours of soaking in the river each day for a week will be enough to make a sickly and homily person average, a month and you would stand at the peak of physical capability and be able to earn a living off your looks alone, three months and you would be five times stronger than any mortal and have a figure to inspire a generation of poets, nine months and you would be ten times greater than you could ever have reached purely through your own efforts, and only those who have never seen or heard you could doubt that you have the face, voice, and body of a god.
>Improves your talent with God Body, not exceptionally so, but you would be in the top 10%.

>Hmm fair. I could see that.
Yeah, Heart Containers are useful, but they’re not too powerful, so it’s reasonable to say they’re fairly east to make.

>The acorn take longer to take root but the oak that grows from them is all the mightier and nurtures more then just itself... or some such poetic saying I suppose.
>When God wants to make a squash plant he takes a few weeks, but when he makes an oak he takes a hundred years.

>and eventually he gets noticed and scooped up as a recruit. And from there he gels with them fairly easily.
I could see you meeting a cultivator, telling them about the world you came from, and since they want to hear more and you don’t have a place to stay, they bring you back to the local sect branch with them.

>>96100061
>One might say the danger of the realm is for the scholar. Can an inquisitive mind bear to depart a land where there will always be something new to discover?
...Just gonna make that a lesson in the sect.


>The other idea I’ve fleshed out is each realm has a vast river running through it, with the rivers having special effects on those who immerse themselves in them.
Alright not gonna copy all those rivers hear to save text space. But I might integrate those. maybe make it a rite of passage those rivers are hidden away within the realms and perspective students have to find and bathe in each of them at least for a little bit. (Though longer is recommended for the patient.) Have each one take potentially years for a studentsto track down and get to.

>>96100075
>I could see you meeting a cultivator, telling them about the world you came from, and since they want to hear more and you don’t have a place to stay, they bring you back to the local sect branch with them.
I was thinking something along the lines of Jumper naturally aligning with a lot of there ideals. Perhaps its a bit cliche but have him basically stay in a village during the "Mortal" section of his time there before he ends up at a temple briefly where he helps a priest whose decrepit there. Run a soup kitchen for the poor, help transcribe texts, try and organize defense of mortals against the rare monster incursion when no cultivators are around. And either have the priest be a former cultivator who got washed out of the sect but is still very well respected by some of its disciples or actually one of its masters in disguise. And after a few years Jumper essentially gets a recommendation to the sect that way. By unwittingly demonstrating he's the sort they're looking for.

Honestly I might try to do a proper write up. My minds brimming with ideas a bit. One, being a sort of rival who was also isekaid. Who gets a fair bit of cheat skills on the more orthodox cultivator spectrum.

>>96100291
>...Just gonna make that a lesson in the sect.
Some other things from my notes.
>Each realm has a vast river that feeds into the golden sea at the center
>Size is unclear, if you are not looking to leave you could wander a realm for a hundred lifetimes and never reach the edge, if you do wish to leave you will find the edge of the realm quickly.
The golden sea is of course found in the fourth realm, the one that comes of bringing the three cultivation styles together. The fourth realm is also home to a Divine Triforce, the type that someone who has completed the entire Triune Scriptures would create.
Also the three realms each have three special challenges located within them, the Three Insights of Wisdom, the Three Refinements of Power, and the Three Trials of Courage. All I’ve got for them so far is your cultivation can’t help you with the challenges (and if you obtain the blessings of the rivers the challenges will scale up to match), the First Insight of Wisdom has you finding an old tome in a forest clearing, which when read transports you to a place where you must solve seven riddles/puzzles/ mysteries/you get the idea, the First Trial of Courage challenges you to defeat 1000 enemies (starting at 1 and slowly scaling up, dying just kicks you out and you can try again), and each challenge you complete will make you much more talented with the corresponding path of the Triune Scriptures.

>or actually one of its masters in disguise.
The peak of the first realm of Divine Delusion is enough to have multiple bodies, after all.

>One, being a sort of rival who was also isekaid. Who gets a fair bit of cheat skills on the more orthodox cultivator spectrum.
A proper Link or Zelda must have a Ganon. The jump even has a drawback for this.

>>96087122
>"I think" I said, blinking, "you may well just be my second favourite version of the Devil ever"
Whose your favourite?

>>96100399
Hmm I might not use this 1 to 1 but if your cool wit it I might be able to use the rivers and put them in the pocket/training realm. With each massive section being influenced by a aspect of the triforce. The Golden Sea... I could see being a myth a bit even for scripture cultivators because you'd have to probably have to practice all three aspects to even have a chance at finding it at all.


>The peak of the first realm of Divine Delusion is enough to have multiple bodies, after all.
Ofc. I think it was more potentially a part of the old masters own training or potentially just a small vacation by moderately powerful cultivator standards spanning a few years.


>A proper Link or Zelda must have a Ganon. The jump even has a drawback for this.
I don't think I'd take a drawback to represent them. I don't want them to be outright antagonistic constantly even if there may be a good bit of it. But just to highlight the fundamental differences in where the two paths take them. Jumper would probably end up changing mentally and spiritually along with there strength a good bit as the natural progression of the scriptures goes. Meanwhile the rival would just get stronger/Become immortal a lot faster. Probably ascend to the Immortal/Next realm long before Jumper ever would but eventually find some of his achievements to feel hollow. The refinement of the self so to speak left undone. Maybe Im just feeling a bit philosophical today in a half baked way.

other world building thoughts: Might call have the sect call successful practioners of all three scriptures styles saints... but have them have to surpass the second stage before receiving the title. The titles aspirational in part of course.

Could have the three oracles of the goddesses in the sect to as a sort of sacred position. Advisors and spiritual guides. With no one but them really aware of the selection process for a new one.

>>96100495
>Hmm I might not use this 1 to 1 but if your cool wit it I might be able to use the rivers and put them in the pocket/training realm.
Go for it. Also I have the Power realm as mountains and deserts, mountains because Din is mentioned as having created them and deserts because of the Gerudo. Also also I have some ideas for various potions that can transform the drinker into a Hylian, Gerudo, Sheikah, and Twill, in that order of difficulty to create them.

>Ofc. I think it was more potentially a part of the old masters own training or potentially just a small vacation by moderately powerful cultivator standards spanning a few years.
I’d have it as a method by which they keep themselves grounded. Maybe the reason the sect remains kind and caring is masters are expected to go out and involve themselves in the world, and living in that town is how that master remains connected to the mortal world.

>But just to highlight the fundamental differences in where the two paths take them.
Ah, a foil rather than a foe.

>Could have the three oracles of the goddesses in the sect to as a sort of sacred position. Advisors and spiritual guides.
Makes sense. The way I handled the Oracles in my Hylia chain might give you some ideas. The lore I had for the Oracles was that they would listen to me because we’re friends, but when it comes to official duties even I can’t give them orders, only the Goddess they’re sworn to, and while they are certainly free to bow and show deference to kings and the like, if they choose to tell the king of Hyrule off the king will just have to deal with it, because the Oracles serve a higher power. So I suppose you could have the Oracles as figure with no official authority, but when they speak the elders remain silent.

Also you might want to take the Oracles as companions, if only because forming the full Triune Realm in the Sect Builder would be very expensive.

>>96101153
>I’d have it as a method by which they keep themselves grounded. Maybe the reason the sect remains kind and caring is masters are expected to go out and involve themselves in the world, and living in that town is how that master remains connected to the mortal world.
Thats what I was thinking as well. Being a part of the mortal world helps keep people from getting... detached to soon. Even if someones mind does fundamentally change a bit inherently.
Ironically enough I think Jumper was going to be tasked with a similar duty by the sect for a while sometime in his 100's in the Jump. He gets assigned to be a censor for the mortal empire/Hyrule territory the sect has. Basically walking among mortals and helping root out mundane corruption. Basically meant to remind them of mortal society and a bit of a test to see if there stick to there principles if there cut loose a bit now that they have a modicum of real power by that point.

>Ah, a foil rather than a foe.
Yeah, it'd be a shame just to flanderize them into a stereotypical young master. I think this is more interesting a bit.

>Also you might want to take the Oracles as companions, if only because forming the full Triune Realm in the Sect Builder would be very expensive.
I might or might not do that depending on how the story goes. Not sure if I want him to take the full triune realm with him. Though spoilers I was planning on his sect in the build basically being a Branch of the one he's entrusted to build in future worlds after he's given the Saint title. The Full triune realm would still be back at the core sect back in Generic xianxia.

>>96101153
>>96101225

>Also also I have some ideas for various potions that can transform the drinker into a Hylian, Gerudo, Sheikah, and Twill, in that order of difficulty to create them.


I wanted to run with the old fanon idea that the triune scriptures would kinda gently turn its users into a Hylian by the end of the first stage. And potentially becoming the other races potentially depending on personal focus by the cultivator. Sort of like a Eevee.
Have the pointy ears basically be a general known marker if someones a member of the sect. (Need to think of a good name for them.) And a good symbol ones reached the point in their cultivation they can properly call themselves a cultivator when they emerge.

>>96101238
>fanon
Honestly I have a feeling that if you were to just straight up ask Nyanko about it, he'd say that could totally happen.

Are there any jumps where the Epstein Files were real instead of a hoax invented by Demonrats to attack patriots?

What would happen if the Thing touched ultimate Kars?

>>96101225
>Ironically enough I think Jumper was going to be tasked with a similar duty by the sect for a while sometime in his 100's in the Jump. He gets assigned to be a censor for the mortal empire/Hyrule territory the sect has. Basically walking among mortals and helping root out mundane corruption.
Sounds like a good role, Provided you aren’t cultivating God Body alone, of course.

>Yeah, it'd be a shame just to flanderize them into a stereotypical young master. I think this is more interesting a bit.
Maybe the ending to that story is you offering them the pill from the Second Chance item, they take it to remove their cultivation, and you take them on as a disciple.

>Though spoilers I was planning on his sect in the build basically being a Branch of the one he's entrusted to build in future worlds after he's given the Saint title.
Neat.

>I wanted to run with the old fanon idea that the triune scriptures would kinda gently turn its users into a Hylian by the end of the first stage.
It’s a fun idea. I think I was even the one who started it.

>And potentially becoming the other races potentially depending on personal focus by the cultivator. Sort of like a Eevee.
That could be interesting. Becoming a Twill could involve focusing on the Light and Darkness elements in Soul Compass.

>>96101267
As someone who did ask, he did say that.

>>96101267
>>96101290
He?

>>96094824
Just started fluffing little bits of the Noreware background. The heat is sadly draining my motivation to do anything but laze around.

>>96094824
Made a bit of progress, not a lot tho.

>>96101267
Oh definitely. which is why I'm just gonna do it.


>>96101290
>Sounds like a good role, Provided you aren’t cultivating God Body alone, of course.
Of course. Jumpers going to tri-cultivate. God body admittedly would probably be his weakest one for a while. If only due to his modern upbringing. Hesitant of pain naturally a bit more then most natives.


>Maybe the ending to that story is you offering them the pill from the Second Chance item, they take it to remove their cultivation, and you take them on as a disciple.
Hmm maybe. I need to see how there character develops a bit more in my head. But that'd be nice if I can fit em in the budget. And if the foil would be a good character to keep around long term.

>It’s a fun idea. I think I was even the one who started it.
If you were. Thanks! its a good idea.

>That could be interesting. Becoming a Twill could involve focusing on the Light and Darkness elements in Soul Compass.
Aye. Twili would probably be a lot of light and darkness users. And probably one of the more difficult to develop into.
Maybe Jumper ends up developing forms for each of the races eventually as sort of side track of him trying to feel out the true path of his style. But I imagine a lot of cultivators can look varied as hell. And I do sorta want to give him wings at some later part. Maybe that could be saved for if/when he reaches the immortal realm but by then it'd just be purely for appearances sake but they'd be just for appearances sake by anything past the first stage anyway to.

>>96092465
Lucifer basically intends to risk potentially blowing up all of Hell and the Human World in the midst of trying to save literally /everyone/ - all the living humans, the dead ones in Hell, the demons, everyone. His goal is to save absolutely every single person no matter what. It's just that this could potentially result in the destruction of the entire world, which he treats as something he can just fix by reviving everyone. Which is just plainly uncaring of the people he's meant to be protecting or saving, even ignoring the possibility that things don't go the way he wants.

It also parallels how Priest outright acted in the exact same way when fighting Asmodeus - that he didn't need to care about protecting the city during their fight since he could just revive everyone who died. It's the sort of slippery dope behavior that is self-justifying and can lead to you doing worse and worse things purely because you have the power to "fix" it after the fact.

>>96101347
>Hesitant of pain naturally a bit more then most natives.
From what I remember Nyanko saying, the pain is the tradeoff for speed. So if you go slower, it’ll hurt less.

>And probably one of the more difficult to develop into.
I could see a split between becoming a race physically and becoming said race spiritually. The Twili would have absurd talent for Light and Darkness, but just taking a potion to become one wouldn’t give it to you.

>Maybe Jumper ends up developing forms for each of the races eventually as sort of side track of him trying to feel out the true path of his style. But I imagine a lot of cultivators can look varied as hell.
That kind of thing would likely be encouraged. Both Divine Delusion and Soul Compass have easy access to shapeshifting, and with the temperament of the sect the seniors would be more than happy to help someone who wants to try a different look or race., so it might even be expected that a junior will try all kinds of bodies and see which ones they keep coming back to.

>>96101396
Not familar with this manga, but it sounds kind of like Noximilian Coxus' mindset, driven obsessively mad by the Eliacube and almost accidentally the universe trying to transcend the God of Time to set right what once went wrong.
>If I win and save everyone, I will have retroactively done nothing wrong
>If I lose, none of this will have mattered anyway

>>96101416
>From what I remember Nyanko saying, the pain is the tradeoff for speed. So if you go slower, it’ll hurt less.
Fair. It'll still hurt though and its the slowness has to be accounted for. It's good for him to not be good at everything though. Though as a inverse I imagine he'd be at least a little inclined towards divine delusion.

>I could see a split between becoming a race physically and becoming said race spiritually. The Twili would have absurd talent for Light and Darkness, but just taking a potion to become one wouldn’t give it to you.
Fair. I could see that. Good way to have it both ways.

>That kind of thing would likely be encouraged. Both Divine Delusion and Soul Compass have easy access to shapeshifting, and with the temperament of the sect the seniors would be more than happy to help someone who wants to try a different look or race., so it might even be expected that a junior will try all kinds of bodies and see which ones they keep coming back to.
Just another oddity to the rest of the cultivators to. It'll be a interesting culture that develops because of this. I can't imagine the reaction from visitors passing through or who might stay at the sect briefly would have.

>>96101272
But it Israel.

>>96101459
>Fair. I could see that. Good way to have it both ways.
There’d also be some natural Gerudo, Sheikah, and Twili, who were born of parents who were both of that race and so bypassed the Triune Scriptures effect of changing you into a Hylian. A natural Twili would have some interesting insights on what it’s like to manipulate Light and Darkness when you’ve been able to do so from birth.

>It'll be a interesting culture that develops because of this.
Such things are where the most fun in worldbuilding lies.

>I can't imagine the reaction from visitors passing through or who might stay at the sect briefly would have.
Juniors would probably be given an ID of some kind to keep until they settle on an appearance.

[Destiny: The Darkness redux]

>FRATRICIDE: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95500563/#95508022

Strands tighten and slacken, like grasping limbs. Frayed nerves. Pulsating sphincters in time and space, that reach through all of human history, allegedly manipulating it to some grand design despite previous would-be puppetmasters finding it difficult to manipulate the paracausal to their will.

But now, there is conflict. Enmity. The Nine are at civil war, and so they beckon the Guardians to distant Kepler where their value can be made known There is, of course, one small snag.

Me.

"Welcome, all of you. My offspring|Lilim subspecies|weapons, the security concerns of the Gardener have finally exceeded this small system, and linear time" I speak across universes, and through one pours cosmic rime while through the other a multitude of emerald strandlings. A third slips through between her sisters, her presence felt only by the intensity of Deepsight around her. All of them are vast, churning cyclones of Light and Darkness rendered Prismatic in which faces and hands and limbs form stable geometric orbits-and tether a great expanse of dark matter that follows through with them.

"Then why only us?" asks the Weaver, basking in the ecstasy of small minds looking upwards in fear and uncertainty. "Why not usher in ALL our kin?"

"She would prefer I not" I say even as the great orb of the Traveller stares at the new arrivals in grave concern.

"Then this is a reconnaissance mission. A period of observation" says the Oracle, broadening her gaze across possibilities and inevitabilities. The Nine of course, cannot help but sense our observation. The Nine react in the only logical way.

Horrified screaming.

"And if what we see displeases" says the Sculptress, "we will use the old ways"

It's understandable. It's not every day you a corpse animated by parasites wandering around.

1/4

>>96101424
They're pretty similar, yeah. Difference is that Lucifer technically has the power to achieve what he wants already, but we have no idea what form this would take and nobody is willing to risk letting him go through with it because they don't want to lose their homes - which is why every demon from all the Gehennas jump in to try and help Priest stop him.

There's also the fact that Lucifer knows God's script, so he's aware of how things are going to go and that reality is just running towards the ultimate predetermined outcome. Lucifer is simply playing his role in fulfilling God's ultimate desires, which he's been either broken by the realization of as an entity with individual thoughts and emotion or which he simply believes he can fulfill the plan without having to be completely railroaded onto it.

>>96101542
The Guardians have apparently always had the capacity to fly to Kepler, and did not think to contact me before I signalled my intent to get involved. They do pay much more attention when the former Emissary, plucky by me from the Nine's grasp, informs them that plans long set in motion are coming to fruition.

"Guardian. Or. Last Word, whichever you prefer" says Ikora, "this flower I'm holding up somehow means we're being invited by the Nine"

"Ah. So it's already begun" I muse.

"What?"

"The manipulations. Ikora, before we proceed further there's a few things you should know about how thoroughly Nine intervention has changed human history"

"We have always known the Nine have forces everywhere" she says dismissively, "but there's no real evidence that-"

"They shot JFK"

Ikora tilted her head. "...is that supposed to be a joke? What does a historical leader's death have to do with-"

"Oh and they killed you to make you a Guardian in order to manipulate you to arriving on Kepler at this exact moment. You were tenacious in life; they attempted to make you something akin to the Emissary, but you instinctively ran and so they chose your colleague Lodi. And punished you by throwing a train at you through space and time. Kind of like the one they're about to throw at you right now"

Ikora glared at me. A Void bomb started to crackled around her fists as she strode up and snapped "If it was anyone, ANYONE else, who spoke to me like that I would have chosen violence now". She sagged, the Light dimming around her. "But I know for a fact you've seen enough wonder and horror that this isn't even the strangest truth you've told me. For the love of...is there anything else I SHOULD know?"

"The Nine can use phones to drag people through space and time, and turn them into bargain bin Emissaries"

2/4

>>96101549
Ikora blinked at that. She stepped aside briefly as a goddamn train smashed through Kepler's time-warped Chicagoesque landscape, a final gesture of pure pettiness by the Nine. "Ikora to Vanguard, I want a security check on ALL forms of communication now. You were saying" she said, "about my...colleague, Lodi?"

You both worked for a Golden Age organisation dedicated to studying alien life. Without their Emissary, they're using him as their point of contact with Guardians, all the while using other races to fight their little civil war for them. The House of Exiles are cultivating what you would understand as a miniature Witness. They would have recruited Maya by telling her how to make a perfect Chioma if I hadn't dealt with that. And now. They have a vested interest in cooperation with the Guardians"

"Is this the part where you urge us to kill them first?" demanded Ikora.

"That depends on which faction wins" I said bluntly. "To be quite honest, as annoyed as I was by the Red Legion affair I find myself ambivalent about the transhuman uplifting offer the Nine propose now that I have enough forces to defend the Traveller from all corners of the cosmos myself. Take up employment with them. Don't. It's all the same to me, just consider if making new friends is worth making new enemies too. Oh and one more thing. You had a daughter"

"Well. She's long dead, just like the woman I was"

I am the first Guardian to bond with dark matter at a sub-quantum level, turning into a blot of pure energy darting about. Of course I am. It's the first trick my own variant of humanity learned to do all those eons ago.

It's a trick that lets me step aside from a conflict where despite the actual singularity to be honest, not much of importance is happening and enter the interstitial spaces the Nine inhabit.

3/4

>>96101554
T H E A G E N T A W A I T S, booms Jupiter, as the others turn (or do something analogous to turning) to face me. C O N V I N C E H I M O F T H E A B S O L U T E N E C E S S I T Y O F O U R C A U S E

You could sooner - sprout wings and fly from this cradle, retorts Venus. What do - you wish from us, Lone Wolf?

we offer you limitless weapons|DLC + a new transmog|state of being, adds Uranus.

"I am unimpressed by your theatrics and empty promises, and you are unimpressed by events confined by linear time. Let's cut past the timelocks and discuss what data may leak from future to past. You intend to make Ikora the new Emissary"

her oft-cited potential = realised in our grasp, claims Neptune.

"And you're afraid of an entity known as the Astronomer"

All of them go silent. .lets not get carried away say I no want trouble, says the Sun.

"You know what I did to your would-be pawns. You have tried and failed to regain control of my timeline. You want to be the latest fools on the block, pretending you can control paracausality even as you dip your tendrils in it and experiment with making those empowered by Light and Darkness? So be it. Either you'll fail and the Guardians will go home with your trinkets in their lootboxes, or you'll succeed and I'll pick up the slack"

"But" I add, "if ANY of this comes back to harm the Traveller, I'll show you exactly what I did to your kind to reformat humanity in my image"

At a gesture, cosmic ice creeps over dark matter tendrils. At a gesture, strands pierce and twist whorls of dark matter. At a gesture, something unseen starts severing intricate acausal connections. The Nine recoil from conflict, because any pain they experience is experienced forever. They sputter assurances and pleas that all will be well, while slinging more offers my way.

"Don't. Fuck. This. Up" I threatened the acausal hoops of dark matter.

4/4

>>96101564
Why you gotta threaten our boy Venus, Shard.

>>96101531
>There’d also be some natural Gerudo, Sheikah, and Twili, who were born of parents who were both of that race and so bypassed the Triune Scriptures effect of changing you into a Hylian. A natural Twili would have some interesting insights on what it’s like to manipulate Light and Darkness when you’ve been able to do so from birth.
Definitely. A diversity of experience could be beneficial.


>Such things are where the most fun in worldbuilding lies.
Definitely. I'll play with the setting a bit. Wont post a build until its done but something that comes to mind immediately as this starts to evolve is Jumper only planning to stay there ten years but deciding to stay longer once his time is up asking for a extension because of some engagement and he's invested. Given this is a xianxia jump and long time spans are the norm anyway the benefactor allows it. First for a century to get through some war Jumper was involved in trying to defend people perhaps. or in the middle of a tournament he's supposed to represent the sect in. And then the second extension after a 100 years... I'm not sure on. I'll need to think of a good one.


>Juniors would probably be given an ID of some kind to keep until they settle on an appearance.
Yeah some little icon, some jade disc with there info on it perhaps.

>>96101602
"Your boy" is participating in a conflict that will apparently set off universal extinction due to some kind of unspecified chain reaction stemming from the ongoing Nine civil war.

I have every right to be upset that it and all it's kind are doing something that will make my big ball friend cry. I mean, they also enabled Maya Sundaresh who is just. The absolute worst.

>>96101635
I mean, Earth, Venus, Mars and apparently fucking Mercury since it turns out it was originally the one telling all the others that they're retards and that the Nine need humanity are all pretty thoroughly opposed to mass reality extinction. And even the Sun, for all that it's trying to appeal to the logics of both sides, still seems to favor the terrestrial planets overall. But the gas giants are the ones who either 1) think the Witness had the right idea, 2) are seething at mankind because it should've been them, not us, or 3) they want to abandon us to die so they can ascend. The civil war is being fought because one half wants both mankind AND the Nine to survive whilst the other wants to kill us all/do the exact same shit that nearly got everyone killed in the first place. It's not really being done out of intentional malice from the terrestrial worlds.

And the Traveler would cry more if you genocided all of the Nine just because Saturn/Jupiter/Uranus/Neptune are a shit.

>>96101608
>And then the second extension after a 100 years... I'm not sure on. I'll need to think of a good one.
I mean, at that point you’ll have spent 100 years there, surrounded by close friends and being taught by mentors who care about you and want to help you grow as a person. The question isn’t why you would stay, the question is why would you move on.

>>96101690
>I mean, at that point you’ll have spent 100 years there, surrounded by close friends and being taught by mentors who care about you and want to help you grow as a person. The question isn’t why you would stay, the question is why would you move on.
Thaaaat... is a very good question honestly... shit hm. Maybe I could tie that into the sect thing if he gets tasked with trying to make a branch somewhere else.

>>96101681
>Mercury
Oh, that’s REAL fucking rich from the little crispy midget after it was also highly implied Mercury was the one who fucked over the Vanguard’s sensors so nobody would detect Ghaul’s coming until it was too late (except I, not requiring those sensors, simply proceeded to strike first, gut the Almighty’s engines, starve out most of Ghaul’s forces and proceed to mount Ghaul’s tortured atop the Tower as a warning to other alien races). Then again, considering Mercury has been converted into a machine world, cracked in half by the Almighty (in canon) and Taken by the Witness, I guess it’s possible it might’ve had a change of heart like people in traumatic accidents seriously reevaluating their life priorities.

And it’s ultimately irrelevant because the Nine retain enough of a consensus to KEEP using the Emissary to express their collective will. How many fuckups are going to be tolerated until someone figures out a way to punish a planet? How many chances should a being that can reach through time and space to make it’s will done be given? How much can the word of an entity that perceives time and space in a way alien even to the Vex, presumably enough to see the moment of the Final Shape BUT DO NOTHING to save all the lives lost when the Witness invaded Earth, and how does one differentiate culpability amongst a group unwilling to disclose how many of it’s actions were done in concert and how many individually? Why should I give a single rat shit about the Nine when they haven’t lifted a FINGER to save the millions of humans, Fallen and Cabal in the solar system, some of whom died as a direct result of their machinations? Again, like Ikora

More importantly, /how many other Nine-like entities are there out there in the universe, fighting their own civil wars?/

The universe requires correction.

>>96101681
Also in-game, apparently III (Earth) is the first casualty but they use the Haul to revive it. temporarily. And it explains both the extinction as well as the solution, to “bind the Nine” which as usual is your prerogative as the Chosen One of Destiny 2

>>96101703
Times like this, what you do is change an aspect of how the chain works. Instead of being dropped in new worlds, the sect finds you have a power that can open portals to other worlds, said ability activating being what brought you to their world in the first place. You can come back anytime you want, and you and your friends are immortal, so leaving isn’t anything to worry about.

>>96094824
fucking kill me they couldn't think of a way to shorten this

>>96101903
Hmm perhaps that could work. The idea originally was for Jumper to end up finding reasons or excuses to stay longer and longer unintentionally eventually going full native but I can change some things up there.

Though since its finished. Have a build (tentatively. Still going to writes stuff up for now and will post a finished version whenever thats done. Probably not tonight though.)

Jump 1: Generic Xianxia (LoneValkyries version)
Origin: Wanderer
Species: Human
Perks
>Cultivator:Free
>Marks of cultivation:Free
>Healer:Free
>Music:Free
>Chibified:Free
>Not countingthe years:Free
>Solid foundations:-100
>Sect elder:-100
>Alchemist:-200
>The power of hardwork:-200
Items
>Cultivator robes:Free
>Cultivation technique (400 version just discounted):-200
>Combat techniques:Free
>Xianxia aesthetic:Free
>Mustard seed:Free
>Instrument: [100 from stipend]
>Fiefdom:-100
>Sect: [200 from stipend]
Companions
Custom X2:-200
Drawbacks
>Engagement plot:+100

Good bit of this stuff will admittedly be stuff to he gets up to manually. Companions I'm not sure on but its good to have some wriggle room to develop. No cheat skills

>>96101960
>Music:Free
The only proper choice for one who cultivates the Triune Scriptures.

>Chibified:Free
Ah, a chibi Venti.

>No cheat skills
What I did with my build is take Savant for Music, Better Than Perfect, and the 600 version of Perfection Is The Name. I find it very easy to improve my skill at music, I can always tell what I need to do to improve, and there’s no limit to how good I can get.

>>96101992
>The only proper choice for one who cultivates the Triune Scriptures.
Of course. Did I really truly have any other option?

>Ah, a chibi Venti.
Indeed! Its a powerful technique becoming smol.


>What I did with my build is take Savant for Music, Better Than Perfect, and the 600 version of Perfection Is The Name. I find it very easy to improve my skill at music, I can always tell what I need to do to improve, and there’s no limit to how good I can get
That is a really danm powerful combo. The music your jumper must be beyond belief. Though I think the lack of genius talent and cheat skills lends itself to the theme a build. Jumpers no natural born genius. He's gonna stumble a bit. But thankfully he'll be able to pick himself back up.

I'm surprised you didn't comment on the engagement plot a bit.

>>96102011
>Of course. Did I really truly have any other option?
I suppose if you were a Link, BotW means you could get away with picking Cooking.

>Indeed! Its a powerful technique becoming smol.
And according to Valk, it could even be a teachable technique, so all your students can be taught to be tiny as well.

>That is a really danm powerful combo. The music your jumper must be beyond belief.
At this point, I can probably achieve supernatural effects through pure music skill.

>Though I think the lack of genius talent and cheat skills lends itself to the theme a build. Jumpers no natural born genius. He's gonna stumble a bit. But thankfully he'll be able to pick himself back up.
Indeed, and this adds to your authority as a teacher. Sure, your student may not be some legendary genius, but neither are you.

>I'm surprised you didn't comment on the engagement plot a bit.
Nothing came to mind for it, really.

>Filename
I am now imagining you staying in chibi form all the time once you finish the first stage. Not like Divine Delusion or Soul Compass would care about you being three inches tall.

>>96102047
>And according to Valk, it could even be a teachable technique, so all your students can be taught to be tiny as well.
Elders: This was supposed to be a joke technique!
Jumper/Venti: But have you considered what if its not?


>At this point, I can probably achieve supernatural effects through pure music skill.
At that point I could see them legitimately being the great sage of music.

>Nothing came to mind for it, really.
Fair enough. I'm just imagining Jumper getting engaged somehow without his knowledge and once they come to annul it he just accepts that... Which makes them not want to. Or take offense he acquiesced to easily.

>Indeed, and this adds to your authority as a teacher. Sure, your student may not be some legendary genius, but neither are you.
You remain on my wavelength.


>I am now imagining you staying in chibi form all the time once you finish the first stage. Not like Divine Delusion or Soul Compass would care about you being three inches tall.
Its a funny image. Maybe not all the time but I could see him using it just for fun and giggles sometimes at the sect or during his duties as censor. Some incredibly small man who they still got to respect for being a cultivator and the fact he's digging up all the dirty laundry in the mortal half of the empire and dragging people before empress zelda despite being 3 inches tall.

>>96102011
>>96101703
>>96099671
Do you not realize how gay it is to SI as Venti?

>>96102096
>Elders: This was supposed to be a joke technique!
Funny thing is, it’s actually really good for you.
>While in this form, you will consume far less energy than you otherwise would have, and likewise regain energy at a greatly increased pace.
For Divine Delusion and Soul Compass, this is a straight improvement.

>Fair enough. I'm just imagining Jumper getting engaged somehow without his knowledge and once they come to annul it he just accepts that... Which makes them not want to.
And that was how you got your first companion.

>You remain on my wavelength.
If we weren’t, that potatoes chain wouldn’t have worked.

>Maybe not all the time but I could see him using it just for fun and giggles sometimes at the sect or during his duties as censor.
There’s also future worlds. If you’re going to take on students, you should try and keep them safe. And if you’re going to try and keep them same, the best way is to stay with them. And if you’re going to stay with them, the best way to do so is to shrink down to tiny size.

>he's digging up all the dirty laundry in the mortal half of the empire and dragging people before empress zelda despite being 3 inches tall.
The empress, meanwhile, is grateful for how you can always bring a bit of levity to otherwise boring proceedings through your small size.

>>96102151
>For Divine Delusion and Soul Compass, this is a straight improvement.
True. It has a bit of utility at least. I'm sure thats why most would assume he uses such a form sometimes.

>There’s also future worlds. If you’re going to take on students, you should try and keep them safe. And if you’re going to try and keep them same, the best way is to stay with them. And if you’re going to stay with them, the best way to do so is to shrink down to tiny size.
"Sect elder tip. Making tiny aspects of yourself to ride around on your students shoulders totally works."

>The empress, meanwhile, is grateful for how you can always bring a bit of levity to otherwise boring proceedings through your small size.
One day Jumper will convince her to show up to court Small. Perhaps just for a single day but what a day it'll be!

>Pic
Thats a good image honestly for Empress zelda potentially. or her daughter. Of course the imperial family is all links and zeldas.

>>96102133
Is it gayer than SIing as Gohan

>>96102185
>"Sect elder tip. Making tiny aspects of yourself to ride around on your students shoulders totally works."
Don’t forget, by then you’ll have several hundred years of life experience, so there’s a lot you can teach your students besides cultivation. Really, shrinking down and staying at their side is just you looking out for them.

>One day Jumper will convince her to show up to court Small. Perhaps just for a single day but what a day it'll be!
And as Empress, everyone else must act normally when she is small if they do not wish to give offence.

>Thats a good image honestly for Empress zelda potentially. or her daughter. Of course the imperial family is all links and zeldas.
Somehow, you can call out the name of one Link or Zelda and everyone can tell which one you’re referring to despite them all having the exact same name.

How does your Jumper deal with the fact that they are inevitably growing more and more distant from the human experience and mindset the more they live and the more power they accumulate?

>>96102313
I have a perk to prevent that, so I don't.

>>96101813
>and how does one differentiate culpability amongst a group unwilling to disclose how many of it’s actions were done in concert and how many individually?
There's no reason to believe Venus, Mars, Earth and such ever pushed for certain actions that the gas giants endorsed. Earth especially.

>The universe requires correction.
If your goal is to keep the Traveler free of harm and from being sad, then these things are mutually incompatible. At some point or another, the Traveler may as well declare you no better than the Witness and would prefer destruction than watch you eternally torture and murder sapience over literal thought crime. Y'know, /just like the Witness did/.

>>96102329
Isn't becoming eternally stagnant also not a form of inhumanity? Millennia and hundreds of lives will pass through you and you will remain unchanged.

>>96102313
Thinking about it.

>>96102313
Margaritas.

>>96102332
>the (((gas giants)))
As I said, Mercury’s culpability-the fact that it was the one that planet and gas giant ALIKE ganged up on to discipline-in letting in Ghaul is the reason why I don’t see any good reason to trust ANY of them.

>the Traveler may as well declare you no better than the Witness
I am accustomed to knowing better than all my friends, I’ll just have to live with the burden of necessity.

>/just like the Witness did/
No. Not /just/ like the Witness. Unlike the Witness, with my own reservoir of Light cultivated over billions of years (before adjusting for Vex time dilation, dark matter atemporality and Destiny human paracausal energy compatibility) I have neither need nor desire to violate the Traveller and my Destiny avatar’s hivemind is composed of paracausal Vex energy clones of myself in perfect synch. There are no Dissenters, and I am not moving close enough for a focused blast.

Furthermore, the Witness had /tunnel vision/. I have already accepted the Gardener desires the universe in it’s current state. So instead of devoting all my energy and focus to a specific goal, I would instead take a broader view of universal culling: Setting off cosmic events to lure species away or towards the Traveller depending on their disposition, kingmaking and empire-founding those deemed worthy by it while manipulation those posing a threat with fits of madness, disease and deception, and thus over many generations arresting the progress of evolution itself itself so that only species capable of nonviolence towards the Traveller can succeed. And only, ONLY culling those posing true existential threats.

If, IF I abandon my current course of Discipleship, recovery of the Golden Age and tacit support for the Vanguard to conquer all timelines, I am going to cull in a MUCH faster and MORE organised way than the Witness just casually dumping it’s memories all over it’s main pyramid like a lazy teenager and casually discarding Disciples.

>>96102313
Selective amnesia.

>>96101813
>Why should I give a single rat shit about the Nine when they haven’t lifted a FINGER to save the millions of humans, Fallen and Cabal in the solar system, some of whom died as a direct result of their machinations?
Because you either wouldn't have saved them yourself or be the thing they need saving from if the Gardner didn't tell you not to.

Does jumper shapeshift to appeal to the masses?

>>96102697
I shapeshift to maximise panic and despair in Gohan when I start feeding him his own SKIN.

>>96102769
>becomes purple
Why? Do you think Gohan is a FNAFfag?

>>96102776
I reflect the color of his own bruises and welts from being beaten by other foes.

>>96102313
Regularly just take background options in setting, giving juumper plenty of experiences of growing up more normally.

There are so many ways for a Jumper to prevent Gohan from happening that Gohanposter's vitriol seems like a solution in search of a problem.
>cuck Goku
Gohan doesn't happen.
>cuck Chichi
He might still be named Gohan, but his essential character is different.
>ensure that Chichi retains the character she had as a loli barbarian warrior princess rather than becoming a cosmopolitan tiger mom
Gohan doesn't happen.
>Make inroads with the family and personally train Gohan from birth
Gohan doesn't happen.
>Kidnap Gohan and raise him yourself
Goku kicks the shit out of you, but you may be able to strike an understanding if you explain that his wife inevitably ruining his son directly endangers the world and denies him a worthy future sparring partner.
>prevent Goku's resurrection after Cell kills him
Chichi has no choice but to offer up Gohan as the leader of the Z-Fighters while he's at his prime, meaning that he can properly fill his late father's shoes rather than succumbing to arrested development.

You think it would be unfitting to apply the Saint template to a creature In the race option in Forgotten Realms?
I usually don't mind using templates for the jump, but that one actually requires you to earn your sainthood rather than just having a particular parent, growing weirdy or being modified.
https://www.realmshelps.net/monsters/templates/saint.shtml

>>96102900
It's incredibly simple. Just wish Goku into a girl instead of Oolong's panty wish. Goku won't care at that point.

>>96102920
Nominally falls under 'cuck Chichi'. But genderbending Goku and then making a half-breed Saiyan with her with Jumper's inheritance perks is also probably the best way to ensure that Gohan is based rather than cringe. It's such a solvable problem with even an ounce of creativity.

>>96102914
I'm pretty much always in doubt over wether to use templates in that section, but if you do I think acquired templates are just as valid as inherited ones.

>>96102949
its just weird t deicde where to draw the line.
Like becooming a Lich for example seems like it should be totally valid(assuming its applied to a level 10+ spellcaster or one of the qualifying races), but things like Saint or Monster of Legend require literal divine intervention.

>>96102900
Gohan doesn't deserve mORE fuckinG unEArned POWErups.

>>96102983
Then make him earn them.
In the first place, seeking revenge for an evil that you had the power to prevent but actively chose not to isn't justice, it's complicity in the original evil as an excuse to commit a second evil after the fact.
In the second place, the opposite of love isn't hated, it's apathy. You're investing passion into Gohan that you yourself implicate he doesn't deserve.
In the third place, Jumper is an implicitly superior being. A human tormenting ants is petty and pointless, but a human developing a myopic hatred for one specific ant and developing a specialized torture chamber for it to keep it alive for as long as possible is unseemly and undignified to boot.
In the fourth place, this kind of obsessive, one-sided hatred is waxing black in a clingy and pathetically desperate way. If you break Gohan's spirit down to the point to where you get him to hate you back, you instantly become gay.
What would your spider wife think?

>>96102983
Events being changed so that you never exist is a powerup?

>>96102313

>>96103099
Yes, nonexistence is PREFERABLE to being Gohan.

>>96103045
I don't want to waste my existence wiping Gohan's ass, just as Piccolo has been reduced to in SUPER HERO. Getting Gohan to train is like getting a cat to swim. He intrinsically REBELS against fulfilling his potential.

>>96103303
And instead you waste your existance obsessing over him

>>96102337
I have a perk to prevent that as well.

>>96102576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZn3LvzrON4&ab_channel=Esoterickk

>12:24

Funny thing. The main arc this season has been Ikora accusing the Nine of being everything I could be if I didn't respect the Gardener because, and I cannot stress this enough, they literally killed a woman just to make her a pawn in their games when she revived as a Guardian. Just as they make other races fight their own battles for them. Just like they changed the Lone Wolf's (the MC's) past to make him their ideal weapon

>>96102313
I bask in my eternal stagnation. It's very relaxing.

>>96102914
Given the low standards of behaviour for Forgotten Realms gods, I don't think so. I mean just ask the Dead Three what their criteria for sainthood is.

I need some jumps that give you everything you need to make you capable of living in a Cyberpunk.

Dealing with ambushes, hacking computers, surviving soul-crushing horrors, fighting many people at the same time etc. Something like Total Recall.

>>96103446
Assassin's Creed.

>>96102313
This is perhaps inevitable but like all things theres a right way and wrong way about doing such things. After a point though one must accept it. Like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly

>>96102313
Become a God and thus immutable.

Hmm what sort of role do you think mortals can play in xianxia states/Empires? Trying to think of ways to incorporate them without just being noteless peasants or recruits for sects. Maybe have it so most of the bureaucracy and day to day management of the empire is done by mortals as a in between with people and cultivator nobles. "Let the mortal manage mortals they know them best and what they need" sort of logic.

>>96104365
Target practice.

>>96104365
>Maybe have it so most of the bureaucracy and day to day management of the empire is done by mortals as a in between with people and cultivator nobles
That would be the most straightforward role. If you rule a province with billions of people living in it (everyone has to start somewhere) you’re going to need a lot of people to handle the bureaucratic tasks.

>>96104365
>Hmm what sort of role do you think mortals can play in xianxia states/Empires?
Slaves. Farmers. Playthings. Laborers. Cultivation Resources.

Any society that mortals develop in xianxia exists purely because a cultivator either protects (rules over) it for the above reasons, or because cultivators don't give enough of a shit about it.

>>96104473
Alright. I'll keep that then.

>>96104417
>>96104492
That feels a little cynical a bit. Cultivators do come from mortal stock at least originally after all. They'd bound to have to have some place in the world.

>>96104527
>Alright. I'll keep that then.
There’s also working as a personal servant to a cultivator. Given the tone you’re going with for your sect, there’ll be plenty of mortals that would love to have such a job.

Also, on the subject of xianxia: get some form of unbreakable contract/binding vow perk/power before visiting any. You might think this is because cultivators are chinese bugmen and their word can't be trusted. You're wrong. They're WORSE than chinese bugmen. Laws exist only because a stronger cultivator says they do. Right and wrong are entirely defined by how strong you are. If a cultivator sees an opportunity to screw you over for their own benefit, regardless of whatever relationship, resources, or the like you've provided them in the past, they will take it without hesitation. If you have something another cultivator likes and they're stronger than you? You no longer have that thing and you'll be lucky if you keep your life in the aftermath. You might think I'm exaggerating. I'm not. I'm reading a xianxia where shit like that is happening right now.
>>96104527
It's not cynical, it's reality for xianxia settings. Mortals exist to do "whatever a cultivator wants them to do", whether that be farming food, being bedwarmers, or getting refined by the millions into blood essence/souls for a technique that will increase the cultivator's strength by 0.0001%. If you're supremely lucky there's a concept of karma and heavenly vows in the local xianxia, which means that most cultivators don't immediately jump to refining people into pills and there's an extrinsic method of guaranteeing trust. In xianxia that lack those, you get to see what society defined purely by strength looks like (via a chinese lens).

>>96104365
Well most woul be nameless peasants, working in fields, mines, fishing, as domestic servants and the like. Though there is a place for a smaller middle class by going all in on guilds/unions for many crafts and trades, like just in terms of numbers the relatively small number of sects dedicated to differen crafts would not be able to meet the demand across an empires, especially at prices affordable to mortals and lower cultivators. And larger groups of organized mortals would wield a considerable amount of social and political power.
Otherwise like you said there is plenty of place in bureaucracy for mortal civil servants doing jobs of the day to day running of the empire, which cultivators could not be bothered to doo.

Personally I also think there would be a decent place for mortal scholars to advance knowledge in an organized way similarly to modern scientists, rather than rely on inddividual cultivator geniuses.

Also mortal entertainers like artists, musicians, dancers and actors could be decent enough and maybe even gather following of their own like modern celebrities. Sure individual cutivators would probably be muchh greater, but they usually dont perform their arts for the masses.

>>96104604
>It's not cynical, it's reality for xianxia settings. Mortals exist to do "whatever a cultivator wants them to do", whether that be farming food, being bedwarmers, or getting refined by the millions into blood essence/souls for a technique that will increase the cultivator's strength by 0.0001%. If you're supremely lucky there's a concept of karma and heavenly vows in the local xianxia, which means that most cultivators don't immediately jump to refining people into pills and there's an extrinsic method of guaranteeing trust. In xianxia that lack those, you get to see what society defined purely by strength looks like (via a chinese lens).
I will... definitely keep that in mind I suppose. More people are going to end up probably fleeing to the sect if thats standard in the larger world probably then.

>>96104561
>There’s also working as a personal servant to a cultivator. Given the tone you’re going with for your sect, there’ll be plenty of mortals that would love to have such a job.
Probably, Can imagine that could be emotionally draining on cultivators a bit though if they get attached easily. Though now Im imagining say generations of mortal servants for a singular cultivator who more seems a family friend at times. Coming to birthdays or important events.


>>96104714
>Personally I also think there would be a decent place for mortal scholars to advance knowledge in an organized way similarly to modern scientists, rather than rely on inddividual cultivator geniuses.
>Also mortal entertainers like artists, musicians, dancers and actors could be decent enough and maybe even gather following of their own like modern celebrities. Sure individual cutivators would probably be muchh greater, but they usually dont perform their arts for the mass
Oh I like all this honestly. Maybe set up a engineering guild for the mortals. That could be fun. Entertainers to. Maybe I could explore that if my jumper gets proper into the musician thing.

Fascism isn't even bad.

>>96104365
Give the talentless peasants a cultivation technique that advances them incredibly quickly but burns their cultivated lifespan to fuel the technique which actual cultivators would never consider using. It'll get them to a level of power they'd have never reached with a hundred lifetimes but still leave them with roughly the same lifespan they had in the end and it'll get you their undying loyalty.
It'll be a Great Leap Forward for them.

>>96104895
Thats... not a bad idea honestly anon. Perhaps a bit morally dubious for my tastes but I could definitely see that happening in the world somewhere. I might use that.

>>96104527
The thing you have to remember about Cultivators is that Cultivation, like Jumpchain, is a system that passively selects for sociopaths the farther in you go.
It already (in most settings) stands as a way to achieve godlike power in contravention to the gods and the laws of heaven: A good man who requires power as a means to a just end will eventually have 'enough' power to so whatever it is he needs to do, and will stop.
Those that don't stop view power over others as the end, greatly fear those of their own ilk wielding it over them, and see mortals as chattel-- lesser beings, means to their ends, not even 'human' in the same way that peer Cultivators are.
Once you get past a certain point, almost every Cultivation setting is a violent crab bucket full of murderous, treasonous psychotics, plus a couple enlightened hermit sages who aren't complete shitheels, observe and sometimes shelter sections of the mortal world rather than ruling over them like tyrants, and only survive because they found a way to game the system and are too powerful for anyone to safely fuck with.

>>96104810
>Probably, Can imagine that could be emotionally draining on cultivators a bit though if they get attached easily.
I mean, Divine Delusion and Soul Compass treat deaging someone as a party trick. Keeping a staff of loyal and devoted servants young wouldn’t be too hard at the end of the first stage, and by the end of the third stage it’d take more effort for a servant of yours to make them young then it would for you to do it.

>Though now Im imagining say generations of mortal servants for a singular cultivator who more seems a family friend at times. Coming to birthdays or important events.
Also the larger and more powerful cultivator houses would have vast numbers of servants, in part to take care of their estates.

>Maybe set up a engineering guild for the mortals. That could be fun.
I don’t think that’d work. Remember that Nayru is the Goddess of science, and your sect greatly cares for mortals. As such, I don’t think that would work as a mortal endeavor because you’d have plenty of cultivators who’d want to join and help advance the bounds of science and engineering, and pretty much all the cultivators of your sect who rule over land will do their best to spread the advancements that are made.

>>96104810
Important thing to be aware of: even if you have binding vow/unbreakable contract type perks or powers, one very easy tactic to circumvent those sorts of things is the following
>Cultivator Shit, of Clan Fuck: *makes binding vow*
>Clan Fuck realizes you have (thing) that they really really want
>Clan Fuck disavows/disowns/outright kills Cultivator Shit, thus nullifying the vow since it only applied to Cultivator Shit and not the entirety of Clan Fuck

>>96105000
Fair enough I suppose. A system like that... it really is tragic a bit.


>I mean, Divine Delusion and Soul Compass treat deaging someone as a party trick. Keeping a staff of loyal and devoted servants young wouldn’t be too hard at the end of the first stage, and by the end of the third stage it’d take more effort for a servant of yours to make them young then it would for you to do it.
True, that'd probably be a big side perk for potential retainers/servants.


>Also the larger and more powerful cultivator houses would have vast numbers of servants, in part to take care of their estates.
The arguments for becoming a horde of chibis grows to split up your time for all of them...

>I don’t think that’d work. Remember that Nayru is the Goddess of science, and your sect greatly cares for mortals. As such, I don’t think that would work as a mortal endeavor because you’d have plenty of cultivators who’d want to join and help advance the bounds of science and engineering, and pretty much all the cultivators of your sect who rule over land will do their best to spread the advancements that are made.
Crap, your right. Well still mortal scientists and scholars having a role would be good. Maybe some scholars.

>>96105098
>Maybe some scholars.
Meant Philosophers there.

>>96104810
>>96105090
And this isn't some last resort thing; sects/clans of sufficient power will happily, thoughtlessly, treat their lower level/younger generation cultivators as pawns this way and happily cut them off the moment they become even slightly inconvenient. This can easily be solved by simply making a vow with sect/clan leader, but...they're usually King Shit of Fuck Mountain types, the strongest of the sect/clan who won't hesitate to kill you just because you happened to breathe wrong in their vicinity, and would be outright insulted by the idea of being bound to their word by someone who's lower than their own powerlevel.

>>96105090
>>96105140
I'm beginning to wonder a bit how people can even get the chance to grow or climb the ladder at all if its so dire. Seems like they'd just take a step outside and immediately die for pissing off the wrong person with there presence a bit.

>>96105098
>The arguments for becoming a horde of chibis grows to split up your time for all of them...
Not necessarily, it’s important to trust your subordinates to do their jobs. What you need is to be accessible, so if there’s a problem that needs your input they can come and ask you what to do.

>Crap, your right. Well still mortal scientists and scholars having a role would be good.
Varied perspectives are always useful when doing science. Of course, the technology that gets developed would be of a more magical style. You don’t need to be a cultivator to create an array, and as the jump says, what is an array if not a qi-based circuit board?

>>96105170
You're either born supremely lucky or happen to be the child of some big shot which usually means you'll get some support to grow.

There's a reason that xianxia protagonists face life and death situations all the damn time despite their absurd luck.

>>96105170
Mostly a combination of luck, being born part of the power structure, and Face Culture. Ironically Face is a big thing that allows people to grow strong enough to actually start being notable; chinese culture has this whole convoluted honor system. Older generations stepping on the younger generation is deeply frowned upon, so most of the time only cultivators of the same stage/rank fight each other while the older monsters just kinda sit on the side sipping their tea until they see something that REALLY interests them (or if one of their grandkids gets killed or something). Plus-lower level resources are generally pretty useless once you get higher up on the totem pole, so once you're a Level 4 Supreme Dong you can't use Level 2 Ching Grass to help you anymore, so the Level 1 Ching Chongs will happily fight over the grass that's useless just two levels later and advance to the next level.

So it's a combination of "it's beneath me to step on these little people", "they don't have anything worthwile to step on them for anyways", pure luck, and being born into the power system so you have some old monsters in your corner backing you and protecting you until you can stand up on your own that lets most cultivators get anywhere in cultivation.

>>96105170
Patronage from another Cultivator, either on the whim of one of those enlightened hermits, or because a sect has vacancies they need to fill/need higher-level grist for the mill I'm pretty sure is the most common way.
The other way is that you get supremely fucking lucky; a ton of Xianxia protagonists have Isekai protagonist cheat skills in order that they don't get immediately murdered by the first arrogant young master that rolls up on them.

>>96105204
>>96105212
>>96105225
Well... that sucks.

>>96105290
There's a reason a bunch of people in this thread mentioned Nyanko's zelda xianxia setting is unusually pleasant, as in the karma system has teeth at all rather than just being something to circumvent.

>>96105290
Yeah. There's a reason every single xianxia protagonst has stupid levels of luck and like half a dozen cheats.

It's amazing how woke you have to be to have ever have believed in the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax.

What did your jumper do in Hollywood?

for xianxia mortals I'd probably go for a magic system where people can pool their skill together for greater magical efects, through rituals and collective chantings an the like. LIke going with a collective apprach of quantity over quality.
Cant really think of a system that would fit properly, since the ones I know that o include it, still usually benfit more from individal greater mages.

>>96105830
Fair enough. Thanks for the suggestion anon.

>>96102697
No, I shapeshift the masses to appeal to jumper.

>>96103446
Agent of Avalanche has a good spread for surviving a cyberpunk world.

>>96103446
Batman Arkham, Dark Knight, or BtAS/Beyond.

>>96105830
this sounds a lot like exalted 1 and 2 where all mortals had were rituals like that

>>96102427
>As I said, Mercury’s culpability-the fact that it was the one that planet and gas giant ALIKE ganged up on to discipline-in letting in Ghaul is the reason why I don’t see any good reason to trust ANY of them.
Current lore actually doesn't specify which of them supported Ghaul. Based on what we know now, it's very likely that Mercury was a scapegoat.

>Furthermore, the Witness had /tunnel vision/. I have already accepted the Gardener desires the universe in it’s current state. So instead of devoting all my energy and focus to a specific goal, I would instead take a broader view of universal culling: Setting off cosmic events to lure species away or towards the Traveller depending on their disposition, kingmaking and empire-founding those deemed worthy by it while manipulation those posing a threat with fits of madness, disease and deception, and thus over many generations arresting the progress of evolution itself itself so that only species capable of nonviolence towards the Traveller can succeed. And only, ONLY culling those posing true existential threats.
Literal Winnower logic.

>>96102900
>>96103045
My guy, Gohanposter is Shard. You aren't going to get through to him because whenever he's playing a bit, no matter how tired it is, he'll logical loophole and tie himself into knots to justify why he's always in the right regardless of context; just look at his Destiny posts up above or how he reacted in the bunker to finding out that the Cthulhu Mythos is a literal xianxia setting except God is wholly benign and wants to help people.

>>96107310
>spoiler
Wait what

>>96107310
There are multiple gohanposters.

>>96107355
I've only gohanposted a couple times this year. So I know there are at least two of us.

>>96107317
The bunker had a lot of talk about Gene's new Lovecraft jump which spiralled into a MASSIVE lore discussion involving Argent and Shard which detailed that according to Silver Key, the Supreme Archetype is not only literal God but is dedicated to guiding lower beings into enlightenment and doing so in as compassionate a manner as possible, even allowing them to refuse and be returned to their world safely. It also reveals that there is an endless procession of higher Gates that you need to cross in order to reach beyond the Ultimate Gate where you can commune with the Supreme Archetype.

>>96107355
I think it's mostly Shard. It's interesting that there's been no Gohanposting in the bunker ever since 9anon called Shard out for it. Also I've filtered most of Gohanposters strange lingo and it occasionaly hits Shards posts.

>>96099263
>144 - Dies Irae
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>>96107355
I have Gohanposted a few times, it was fun. Usually I do it just because I am really bored.