Thread 96326213

There is no greater fantasy race than a mouse with a sword. They're the perfect adventurer
>Fit into small places
>Heroic as fuck
>Always the underdog, always comes out on top
Every time you see a mouse with a sword and armor the only thing that goes through your mind is "damn".

Anyway mouseguard, mausritter, whatever thread. I fucking love this aesthetic.

>>96326213 (OP)
>Every time you see a mouse with a sword and armor the only thing that goes through your mind
is that you probably should put down the bottle.

>There is no greater fantasy race than a mouse with a sword
So, is it born with a sword? Are there certain sword-breeds?

>>96326222
My alcoholism is not the topic of this thread

>>96326225
Only the most noble of players use swords and mice are the most noble of races. It only makes sense they only use swords. So yes, they might as well be born with a sword.

>>96326213 (OP)
What about Rat with Turtles?

>>96326305
Splinter is an NPC, he uses a staff and sits in the background. Leonardo is fucking cool though

>>96326311
>Splinter is an NPC
GMPC you mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6SI_tx9D_E

>>96326213 (OP)
Mouse guard is an amazing comic series with a very cool spin-off RPG that sometimes gets a bit too bogged down in the minute details for it's own good. I still love it, though.

>>96326213 (OP)
Mustelids just better in every aspect.

>>96326213 (OP)
>sword not a needle and helmet not a thimble

>>96326213 (OP)
>>96327369
>mouse, squirrel
classic heroic protagonist
>mustelid, fox
crafty anti-hero

>>96327369
>>96327416

>Leaves after getting paid at the end of the second act
>Comes back midway through the final confrontation with the villain to save the heroes
>"Eh, you're good customers. And he didn't have a better offer."
>Disappears into the night during the celebration, the treasure he had wanted all along is missing from the grand hall
>Still gets added to the tapestry

>>96326213 (OP)
I raise you mole with a hammer

>>96326213 (OP)
>>96327416
>>96327963
Fuck, now I want an RPG that's like this.

>>96326213 (OP)
What is the best steed for a beknighted rodent?

>>96328303
There's a few games like that, OP mentions two which are Mausritter and Mouse Guard. Can't say much about the latter because I haven't played it but I am fond of Mouse Guard.

I mean, there's always the secret third option, it's free too.
My game
https://primrosegame.itch.io/core-book

>>96329064
Fuck I meant former

>>96326213 (OP)
Only fat rat tats

>>96327413
That's cute buy why would they use human stuff when they're a functioning industrious culture capable of making their own clothes and houses and metalcraft?

>>96329254
Now we're talking

>>96329309
That is a rightfully vicious mount. Chickens are ferocious.

>>96329344
They will in fact eat mice if given a chance.

>>96326213 (OP)
I too read a lot of Redwall in middle school.

>>96329064
>Within the Terrirtoies

I'll check it out, but fix that typo on your download page

>>96330299
>Within the Terrirtoies
Its so over.

But thank you

>>96330373
I like the setting. The seasons idea and their divisions is good!

>>96326213 (OP)
How was your last session with this mouse game?

>>96330509
Thanks anon, I hope you enjoy the book. Honestly I left the setting as open ended as possible because the game initially started as a Redwall fan TTRPG but I wanted to turn it into something more.

If you ever get a chance to play it I'd be down to hear what happens, the game can get quite silly at times but who doesnt like the occasional bit of whismy.

Yes there is.
Frogs in petticoats and automobiles.

>>96327369
>"mustelid"
>not "ferret" or "weasel" or "otter"
furfag that wants to talk about his fursonas species
this is a desperaux thread
a reepicheep thread
redwall

>>96330521
badass squirrels
wow

>>96331368
Wind and the Willows is based, but I dont know how many sessions of organising picnics you could have before it gets boring

>>96329064
>Within the Terrirtoies
Is the rest just ChatGPT bullshit?

>>96326213 (OP)
Agreed

>>96327963
>>96328303
the new heir is growing a little quickly, and he seems to be a bit sharp-tongued.

>>96328456
A shrike. I fuck not about. I suppose a good could do.

>>96331403
Reepicheep is based as fuck.

>>96331688
Nah, I've refrained from using AI in general. I think I'm just a dumbass and didn't even realise the first paragraph contained an error like that.

Generally, I've been proofreading as I go when playing the game, and my writing can be really sloppy at times. It's probably why the core rules are the most polished, but something like character creation still on the rare occasion, has old or obsolete nomenclature from when it was an unofficial Redwall RPG. Hell, I just found one earlier where it refers to 'Flaws' as 'Faults'.

I bet if you go to something like the music section which I just wrote a few days ago you'll see a ton of errors especially.

>>96327963
>Still gets added to the tapestry
While the mouse and the mustelid are just remembered as heroes through the tapestry, one part of the tapestry is torn off, hiding someone who was originally part of it.
Who was it, and why were they later dishonored?

>>96331403
There are too many mustelids to list and stoats are different enouth from martens to just use "weasels". I have an opinion that mustelids make better and more complex characters to have fun around then overused rodents. They are nice too but people sleep on other options.

Calm down and ambrace mustelids company https://files.catbox.moe/qwya0m.mp4

>>96331926
The mustelid's gay lover who is a noble beast of legend and he is not accepted in the mouse community because of his proud sexuality.

>>96332092
Mustelid hater proved himself to be the first too spoil the thread with stupidity.

>>96331926
Obviously, it was The Rat.

>>96327369
>>96332085
Based mustelid appreciator. Do you have any other art to share that would work for adventurers or NPCs? It's hard as fuck to find good quality art that works.

>>96326213 (OP)
Such a kino aesthetic. I really hoped MTG with Bloomburrow would garner more interest but unfortunately its still mostly just the Redwall crowd.

Mouseguard and Mouseritter are cool, but having just mice be playable really does hold back the aesthetic and it's potential.

>>96332496
promt/lora?

>>96332454
Search for ttrpg books and artists via visual search and be happy

>>96332497
Larry MacDougall, I don't even know what promt or lora is

>>96331426
God I remember loving that book as a kid

Historia has great art and nice story. Sadly its half-baked dnd clone

>>96326213 (OP)
Been thinking of running a campaign with small critters in a world of humans and such.

>Abandoned castle town in the woods.
>slowly becoming a new settlement for a few families of adventuring humans.
>The wizard's crystal-headed staff has fallen into the castle's basement level after many, many years of the wooden floors slowly rotting away.
>the crystal has fallen into a tiny underground creek and rendered its waters magical.
>creatures that drink from this stream gain intelligence and self awareness.
>tiny civilization has started to spawn in the castle, in parts of the human settlement, in the woods, upon the crumbling aqueduct.

>Plot . . . err, dunno. need to workshop that.
>and more worldbuilding.
>crab mounts.

>>96332499
Thanks, mustelidbro. I appreciate it. For the sake of discussion, could you expand on how you'd use mustelids in a TTRPG context (vis-à-vis your comments on using them instead of mice)?

>>96332681
-Mustelids tend to be emotional and energetic, not schizo-like but in harmony with their own stranges. They are evolved spicies after all.
-Extreme focus on tasks and resalt. They tend to overwork and have will to motivate others to do as match.
-Deformed reaction on stress. Mustelid almost never fear or fall in sadness. Instead they rage, distract on new activities or sleep a lot.
-Risk of harming others and innate mastery in killing things force a lot of mustelids to have special tricks and rituals to cool themself. Art and music are popular for a reason. Dancing is religiously loved activity.

>>96332793
And they stink good :)~

>>96332838
Had a ferret without cage. Once a month she stink when overexited and all other days smell is less than of a cat or a dog.

>>96332793
>>96332876
>>96332838
Silence ferrets, this is a mouse thread

>>96329064
Yeah, I know about both Mouse Guard and Mausritter, and really like both of them, but they have a very different vibe than what I meant.

I'd like an RPG that's about a party of small, fuzzy adventurers belonging ti different species doing standard fantasy-action movie stuff, maybe a bit tongue-in-cheek, somewhat like Princess Bride, and that has a great focus on the relationships between the party members. I have some ideas whirling in my head for how it would work.

Also, your game looks pretty interesting! I'll give it a read when I can.

>>96332892
It's a polecat not ferret. Ferret = domesticated polecat. There are little room for ferrets in animal world.
We a helping this half-dead mice thread more then harming.

>>96329265
then how am i suppsoe to know they're tiny

>>96326213 (OP)
No, because I'm not a degenerate furry.
When I see mouse fantasy I think "how quaint".
There is nothing inherently brave about mice nor anything inherently cool about them besides being one of the most consistent vermin

>>96326213 (OP)
Gay furry shit

>>96334970
>>96335018
You've obviously never read nor played Mouse Guard.

>>96326213 (OP)
>>Always the underdog, always comes out on top
unless there is no more space to breed

>>96332906
So whats the different between Mouseguard and Mausritter? Looking for a System to introduce children/Teens to RPGs. Does one of then fit?

>>96328456
For the tall folk, only a legendary mythical steed such as a gryphon or pegasus will take them to the skies.
But for Sir Mouse, any humble avian will do.

*blocks your path*

>>96326213 (OP)
I dont see the appeal , but I dont feel that strongly enough to really care. You like mice knights , then more power to you

Surely a villainous rodent with his own sword to clash against could stand in as a Black Knight figure. But what is the best choice for a Great Foe, equivalent to a dragon, for a mousey hero to face? Snake, cat or owl?

>>96335851
Owl is the big bad, mysterious lich figure,
Cat is a sentient dragon type of big bad, evil, but can be fooled if you get it to listen to what you have to say.
Snakes are a more "mundane" enemy, something that would terrorize a small local village

>>96335949
Cats work surprisingly well as sentient dragons, they're smart enough to be sadistic yet can be tricked. Though I'd personally set owls and snakes as the greater threats. One is Death on Silent Wings; sometimes a mouse or other critter just vanishes at night and those who investigate do too. The other hails back to ancient dragons which still held a strong resemblence to the serpents which inspired them, their burning breath more venomous than fiery. If a setting includes humans, you may notice that the titans in whose shadow you live seem to love cats, ignore owls and share your mortal terror of serpents.

>>96336254
Herons would probably be pretty good too for the related areas.

>>96326213 (OP)
I'm running a mouseguard campaign, that's heavily inspired by 1800s social darwinism, that middle part of heart of darkness and the cyclical intertribal violence in pre colonial Papua. The only true heroes are going to be the shining knights in armor who keep the predators at bay.

I cannot agree enough

>>96335851
Right now Im running a heavens gate ufo cult for rats that worships crows. Full on let them feast on us as ascend sorta stuff. I think what makes birds in particular is their intelligence and intimidation factor which makes them good dragon stand in.

>>96335851

Traditionally, the snake is the dragon, inasmuch as the dragon is a force of nature that the heroes must overcome.

>>96336287
>>96336820
Herons, crows, owls, shrikes, hawks, birds in general make some nasty foes for mice. Hell, I've seen what chickens do to them, like a scene from Jurassic Park.

>>96336846
Agreed, it's why I included them. But cats are also a very traditional foe for mice, and owls felt like a good Death from Above option. Really, I can see a heroic mouse knight slaying a snake like a dragon, if he can just avoid the fangs, but anything with wings is beyond fighting you just dive for cover and pray.

>>96336969

I may be talking out of my ass here, but I see it as follows, vis a vis their relationship to move in fiction.

>Snakes are the dragon archetype
>Owls are the Grim Reaper archetype
>Cats are the Satan archetype

>>96335416
Mouse Guard is an RPG based on the comic series by the same name. The comic is by David Petersen, and I really recommend it. It's not strictly a kid's comic, but it can be absolutely enjoyed by them too and doesn't have anything sexual or overly violent.
The game is by Luke Crane and is based on a simplified version of his Burning Wheel system. The players take up the role of Guardmice: members of an order that dedicates itself to protecting the Mouse Territories from predators, the weather and evil mice. It's a really interesting ruleset, and it's probably one of my favourites, but it's pretty crunchy, sometimes a bit too much for it's own good, so I wouldn't recommend to a small child, although an 11 or 12 year-old should have too many issues playing it. It does heavily depend on the child in question, of course: a friend of mine's brother GM'd Pathfinder games to his friends since when he was 10. The rulebook is clearly written with the assumption that's it's going to be read by a younger audience, but I think that a small child is gonna be a bit overwhelmed by all the rules. The art is by David Petersen, and it is gorgeous.

Mausritter is an OSR-esque game where you play mice adventures in the modern world. There's all the classic Dungeon Crawling package: Ancient ruins inhabited by mysterious cults, evil wizards and their towers, hex maps and lethality. There are also all the problems that stem from being a small mouse in a world populated by humans.
It's extremely rules-light, and character creation is completely random. The Inventory system is probably my favourite part of the game. It's simple enough that no kid should have big problems playing it, but since dying is very easy, again it depends on the child.

>>96335416
>Teens
I think you're referring to 13-14 year-olds, and if that is the case I'd recommend other systems. If they are anything like I was as the time, they are desperately trying to be more "cool" and "grown up", not to mention full of all kinds of angst, so trying to entice them with small mice with swords, as beautiful as they might be, might be the wrong approach. As a 12-13 year-old I was very fascinated with D&D, but that my Fantasy-loving ass having made first contact with the Dragonlance books.
I think that teenagers would be interested in something like Old School Essentials or Dungeon World, depending on their tastes. If you find yourself with a group of absolute edgelords, all you have to do is show them the Mörk Borg rulebook's cover and you'll have them convinced.

>>96338905
Mice are Jews though, they wouldn't be in a tank.

>>96326213 (OP)
So what the hell is this genre called exactly? Because there's a ton of media similar to it but it's always just been called 'Fantasy' when it's very much it's own particular thing.

>>96338905
Why? >_<

>>96338937
I think that's probably because it's so wide spread as a general concept in myths, fairy tales and fantasy writing.
Especially if you go from anything with a talking animal all the way up to fully anthropomorphic animal civilizations of one or multiple species.

>>96337623
Makes sense, gives each a role as a major threat, feels inspired by older myths and legends. I can agree with that.

Literally been considering homebrewing a mouse race for AD&D (easier to homebrew stuff without getting caught up in convoluted crunch) but I don't like how so many other homebrews make the mouse races 2 feet tall. I want my mouse race to be actually mouse-sized, but I'm considering how to handle the logistics of it (both in terms of damage dealt and damage taken, plus potential AC bonuses due to being harder to hit as a target).

>>96326213 (OP)
>>96330241
>>96335692
>>96335949
>>96336254
Mouse civilisation lives in the underbrush and underground while the skies and trees are ruled by the Owls of Ga'hoole
This set up strongly reminds me of Root now that I think about it, with the Eyrie dynasties as distant overlords to the burrowing forest critters

>>96337623
Snakes are serpent dragons.
Owls are death dragons.
Cats are Satan dragons.

>>96341373
vengeance!

>>96332655
Fuck yeah crab mounts

Maybe trouble with downstream littlefolk where the magic in the water gets diluted by a second stream so they have to do with less?

>>96339171
I think the main distinction between something like Redwall and more typical anthro focused fantasy is a lot of the setting leans on the animal aspects being core to a characters identity. Same with size disparity being a common theme that complicates interaction within the world.
Just look at Mouseguard where just ordinary regular ass crabs and seagulls are a life and death struggle whereas something more furry like ironclaw wouldnt even consider them worth thinking about.

I think thats enough difference for these types of settings to have their own genre to describe them. And I am autistic enough to want a name so we have something to call these kinds of threads because Im fond of the discussions and art.

>>96343244
stop posting AI shit

>>96338920
>Hear that Shelstein, you're not s'posed to be here.
>Thank mouse god, someone send me back to Walnutpick.
>S'all weasels in Walnutpick
>Says a lot about how you boys square up, don't it?

>>96343540
I didn't even realise that was AI, fucked up world

On a side note there is also Bunnies & Burrows. It is inspired by Watership Down. And I just learned that there is also a GURPS adaption of the rules.

>>96344029
It's some dumb chick LARPing as a "witch" on Instagram who's been posting AI shit and making money on it for a while now. I fucking hate how AI has spammed every tarot/divination/occult/magic site.

>>96329703
>>96329309
Well, it's not like there haven't been people mounting stuff like panthers and wolves in fantasy anyways.

>>96330241
>"Members of the Jurraaayyy, I am but a humble forest lawlyer (Lawyer owl), I turn my head around all the way when I check my surrounding, I eat my mice in an obnoxious and gross way, almost dislocating my esophagus to swallow it how..."

>>96345731
Whole*

>>96338937
Mouse-core, Woodland punk, Post whimsical, Rewallian

>>96326213 (OP)
Rats > Moice

>>96343244
it falls under xenofiction, but most xenofiction is more 'realistic' like its told from the pov of a dog living in a house with human owners, whereas this stuff is fantasy. But theres overlap, like Watership Down.

We do need a name for this stuff tho

>>96326213 (OP)
redwall and nimh certainly did a number on an entire generation of autists huh (me too)

>>96346081
>Redwall
>NIMH
>Mouse Guard
>Owls of Ga'Hoole
>Watership Down
>Bunnies and Barrows

Never read Warrior Cats, does it fit here?

>>96326213 (OP)
love it, the few sessions I've played in Mausritter were a lot of run.
however, I would like to offer one thing: a mouse is always in need of noble companions to their journey. the bunnyfolk are honorable people and are willing to lend their swords to aim small mammalfolk. will you allow them to accompany you on your quest the stop the evil feline warlock that's threatening the forest? (@tama00001234's art is too good)

I fucking love adventure mice.

>>96347539
NTA, but this thread is giving me too many ideas for an RPG, I might even end up finishing it.

>>96349156
Do it, you won't.

Redwall is one of my favorite settings and I'm shocked there isn't an official Redwall RPG. Though they'd probably try to make it a little too child-friendly. I'm also shocked they haven't appointed an official successor to the series and let some other author take it up. Don't they know there's money to be made?

I'd like to see something like the World Of Darkness done with critters. It would be hilarious to see a gothic-punk take on this genre.

Vampires and werewolves would obviously be bats and wolves, respectively, but what about the rest?

>>96349971
I mean, hell, set it in the World of Darkness, just viewed from a different angle. I could also see it almost being like Secret of NIMH meets Hunter, where your colony of animals, whatever they might be, defend their territory from incursions of the weird and supernatural. A recently turned Nosferatu, unable to live on the surface and is now haunting the sewers and subsisting off rats. What is your colony going to do to stop his poaching? A strange creature - corpse like, but crackling with the fire of creation - has settled into a long-disused pumping station underneath a park. He studies the fire that animates him, but when he uses it to try and animate dead flesh, it spawns horrid, chitinous things that stalk the park. It's gotten so a decent squirrel can't even climb trees and hide acorns. What will your brothers and sisters do?

>>96338905
Would read.
>>96338963
the Mouseguard comic used the season and year as a subtitle for each volume.

>>96349197
I'm working on It. I'll take this as a challenge.

>>96351397
I know, but why WW2? It feels so out of place.

>>96326213 (OP)
Does Fantastic Mr Fox fit here or is it too cartoony. I know the animals in this movie wear suits but they do act like animals and live in burrows

>>96347539
>bunnyfolk are honorable people
shut the fuck up Usagi

>>96326213 (OP)
>There is no greater fantasy race than a mouse with a sword.
/tg/ out here winning the Wrong Again Award yet again

>>96327369
Finish your game first, Maldavius

>>96331926
The Redeemed Rat
He tore it off himself, with the justification that he didn't deserve such glorious remembrance but in reality, he wanted a keepsake that he was, once, a hero to some. And a reminder that he could be again as he wandered the wider woods. That tiny scrap of cloth is more valuable to him than all the baubles he was killed for

>Mouseritter
>Mouseguard
>Primrose
>Burrows and Badgers
>Historia
>Bunnies and Burrows

Any other game we're missing? I wouldn't mind more of these threads but we do need something to call them.

>>96345604
I'd say so

Mausritter is free. No excuse not to download it.

>>96351935
Bunny Borg

>>96350900
Sure, but I wanted to extend the analogies from >>96335851.

>>96327963
(((Wiesel)))

>>96351756
Putting the MouseGuard concept into the Maus date would be my best guess if there was more going on than just "cause it's cool."
I don't find it any stranger than mice living like humans in 1152.

>>96329703
>carnivorous
>can be extremely violent (cockfights??)
>descended from dinosaurs
>'member when Australia fought emus and lost
I'm thinking based. It's the equivalent of a human riding an Allosaurus.

>>96327369
They are awesome but suffer from a bad historical reputation much like rats do, and when dealing with fantasy stories heavily influenced by myths and stereotypes it makes sense most carry over the animal ones too.

>>96335851
Owl for the Moloch references, snake for the Biblical (and/or Sumerian) references, human exterminator (some sort of hunting hound or terrier optional) if you're going full Great Old Ones

>>96355001
Not sure if Allo would make a good mount or not...

>>96355067
It's basically the only large theropod with proper size front limbs instead of those gay retarded midget flippers (otherwise I'd be more of a Carnotaurus fan)

>>96351756
/tg/ GETS SHIT DONE

>>96326213 (OP)
I usually don't like beastfolk, but this is the closest to an exception I would make

>>96349971
Wraiths would be ravens.

>>96351756
>I know, but why WW2? It feels so out of place.

It's a historical comic. WW2 was a pretty big deal history wise. Why am I explaining this. You're dumb as hell.

>>96355096
>It's basically the only large theropod with proper size front limbs instead of those gay retarded midget flippers
Exactly, those "proper" sized front limbs are huge ARMS he's not using to move with, but still get in the way!
Unless you want it galloping around on all fours like a quadruped, Allosaurus probably prefer hunting via ambush grappling while Tyrannosaurus and others POWER WALKED!

>>96356025
So you're saying Allo was a jiujutsu chad while Mid-Rex and the other overratedsaurs were basically douchey suburban joggers?

>>96351835
FEUDAL JAPAN!

>>96356261
Allo being a Jiujutsu chad is a maybe, but the others clearly weren't overatedsaurs all things considered.
Remember that "douchey suburban jogger" is at least a five ton locomotive of living muscle lead by one of the most powerful jaws known to Earth.

>>96352888
>Bunny Borg
Yeah I guess that counts but how many fucking borgs are out there

>>96351825
Yeah it does, I don't see why it wouldn't. I think one of the most important aspects is animal sized animals and their identity and behavior shaped around what animal they are.

>>96349971
Vampires: bats (maybe bloodsucking insects for Tzmisce and Nosferatu)
Werewolf: wolves (duh)
Mage: All sorts of birds
Changeling: large variety of colorful insects like butterflies, ladybugs, fireflies...
Hunter: domestic dogs and cats

No idea of which animals to use for wraiths, demons and mummies, though

>>96357778
Would snakes work for demons?

>>96357912
I could see it work, yeah

>>96357778
A quick skim through Wikipedia suggests that dogs or horses are associated with ghosts.

Let's say you've been invited to join in on a Redwall campaign. It's going to be a fairly standard sort of affair in which some Abbey dwellers are sent out into the wild to rendezvous at Salamandastron. What sort of character would you like to play as? Species? Role in the party/story? Caveat - goodbeasts only, no vermin. While I don't disagree that there's plenty of room in the setting for less black and white than Jacques paints in the books, let's stick to the basic premise.

Anyone out there with enough main character energy to play as a young badger with destiny thrumming in their blood, or a reluctant bearer of a very famous sword? Me, I'd probably wanna be a hare. I like that they had boxing and kicking hares in the books.

>>96358152
>main character energy
>badger
I didn't read em all but I can't think of a single book with a badger main character. At most one had a badger as the protagonist of the B-plot while the main plot was still about mice and the abbey

>>96358152
>>96358651
Oh yeah, and to answer your question I'd probably go mole. I think my favorite character in all of Redwall was that one rat who renounced war and became a pacifist boatmaker but I wouldn't want to just copy him wholesale, so I'd go mole. The moles were always great.

>>96358152
Mouse, cape and sword. Simple as.

That or a retarded squirrel with a chip on his shoulder.

>>96345923
Rats are effeminate gay balls of love. Mice are asocial retards with capacity for extreme violence.

I know which one I'm taking adventuring.

>>96355003
Historically rodents have been hated far more than weasels. Its power of nostalgia for children literature that shapes genre

>>96359337
Mustelids are hated by people who raise chickens and rabbits, because they're little murder machines. Also, unlike rodents, they're hunted for their pelts.

>>96326213 (OP)
Found the furry

>>96336254
If you're doing a setting with domesticated cats then they also have room to be "good dragon" equivalents, some housecats are just completely and utterly uninterested in chasing prey for some reason.

I'm fairly sure someone was working on a Tooth and Tail D20 system a few years back. Kinda interesting not for the game but the setting.

>>96368576
Cats are genuinely too dumb to be dragons

>>96371834
So dogs then?

>>96371834
1. Dragons don't need to be that smart.
2. We're already making even dumber animals sapient and giving them weaponry.

>>96336254
>>96336969
>owl
>silent death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UrHfqmgycY

>>96326213 (OP)
Based mouse enjoyer

>>96335851
>>96336254
cats being dragons is funny. but there is still the common buzzard. even called mice buzzard in german

>>96349971
Not supernatural but gothic-punk and edgy, Knifewinter was a LARP where you could play as a rabbit and have the special ability of producing extra rabbits in downtime whom you could then sell for meat.

https://larpx.com/2024/05/02/knifewinter/

>>96385356
Is this one of those Swedish Suffering L.A.R.P.s?

>>96358152
Rat merc. We do it for the cheeze

>>96386497
I said no vermin, RAT. But I'd probably allow that, actually. It'd be interesting for the Abbey to deal with some folks who are neither for Mossflower or against it, but are more than happy to be swayed to one side or the other.

>>96386150
steampunk-adjacent brits from 20teens Brighton

>>96326213 (OP)
I'm currently playing a rat with schizophrenia and a masters degree in engineering. Does that count?

>>96387921
The Bellmaker features an ex-pirate rat called Blaggut who ended up genuinely taking to Abbey life after being dragged there by his captain in a plot to rob the place, so Brian Jacques says it's okay.

Fairies are better as not only are they still small they can also fly and have magical abilities

>>96391618
>no badgers
What the fuck

>>96403604
I felt like they were borderline another weightclass, sure they'd be shrunken anway.
Had them in there with beaver and fox initially.
They're supplement material.
Same with otter(overpowered)

You'll have to roll Mole.

>>96326222
holy kek

>>96331696
I'm still surprised we don't have Tower Dungeon threads here on /tg/.
We had Dungeon Meshi threads when that was ongoing.

>>96407771
Eh
Tower dungeon just doesn't hit the same way

I've been kicking around ideas for a creek/river/lake scenario where the PCs start out a small mouse village/town near a body of water.
You could go full Moby Dick with large mouth bass and pike as both of those are known to eat small mammals they come across.
Here's one of the settlement ideas that I had.
Greenhome
Wooden bridge joins the settlement.
Industry: Fishermice with nets and rafts. They primarily catch crawdads, creek chubs and other small fish. Occasionally they might be able to catch a much larger fish.
Greenhome is located next to a creek with a small wooden bridge going over it that the mice maintain. It is made up of four small half buried burrows and one large covered round house made from what looks to be an overturned whicker basket sealed with dirt and clay. Near the creek can be seen a dock, various structures, and equipment for fishing, which is the primary method the mice of Greenhome use to make their living. They fish the creek for crawdads, creek chubs, other small panfish, and minnows that call the creek home. Sometimes a much larger fish slips into the creek and ends up hooked at which point the whole town goes up in a flurry trying to either bring the monster in or cut it loose before it completely destroys the lines. It has a small clay pot tea candle heater in the center of the large round house that provides a meager amount of warmth to those inside. All of the smaller burrows are connected via a main tunnel that also connects to the round house. There are about 3-5 families of mice living there.

>>96403894
Moles are FAGGOTS
I want to crush, kill and destroy. Such is my birthright as a badger.

>>96330160
I feel like Redwall equipped me unnecessarily for death in Middle School.
>mandatory side character sacrifice death in every book
>sometimes it’s the most innocent and undeserving characters for no reason but being in the wrong place at the wrong time
>villain arcs that last multiple books to end in horrifying terror
>Realistic 4/10 survival odds for large field battles (The Long Patrol was GOAT but honestly it felt like secondhand PTSD once it was finished)

Why did Brian Jacques feel the need to prepare me for the inevitable deaths of my favorite people?