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>>96340668

Thread question:
Whats the worst color combination you've ever seen on someone's models?

>>96344123 (OP)
baby blue, white, and pink

Evening peeps, I lost to Ultra Marines again….anyone else play any games this weekend?

>>96344123 (OP)
Orange and and green orks

>>96344139
nah, I spent my painting day in the desert watching the meteor shower

>>96344148
Ok wow that sounds sick

>>96344139
>no dice visible anywhere
This isn't a game

>>96344139
Mechasonic gonna fuck both of you up. What were you thinking?

>>96344139
Is that Sonic?

>>96344123 (OP)
>TQ:
Orance and teal.

>>96344153
Bottom left corner punk

>>96344159
>>96344160
Yea we were using him as a marker for the little beacon model that we left at our other brothers house.

This seems cool. Boarding Actions is pretty fun, I'm gonna try to convince some buddies to try this with me on Saturday

>>96344139
Was going to play the local 3round today but something with my dad came up. Did at least schedule a game for tomorrow evening though.

Getting into 40k and starting a Black Templar army. Is it worth getting 2x pic related? From the Codex reviews I watched you apparently want like 2-3 Crisader squads and 1-2 Impulsors and the Marshal is now pretty strong but no idea if you want 2 of them. So do I get 1 or two boxes? I'll also get the new Combat Patrol but pic related was discontinued. Also the old CP has the BT upgrade sprue while the new one doesn't.

>>96344171
>Tomorrow Evening
Thats a weekday anon

>>96344176
with transports its pretty lethargic to use just one, if they're weak to them they can just blow up your only transport and be safe

>>96344177
nta but I work on saturday and have sunday monday off, not every place is a pure christian closed-on-weekends townie

>>96344176
Its a good box.

>>96344178
impulsors are so terribly low costed that if your opponent is wasting shots on them, any of them, you're already winning

>>96344181
>nta
Nobody asked you

>>96344177
I'm on permanent disability and the guy I'm playing is in college. We both have plenty of time.

Custodesfags, tell me: are the resin dreads worth it?

>>96344187
>it begins
leave it
down boy

>>96344139
Based game player

>playing 1k necrons vs sisters with vahl and 2x immolators
I don't want to list tailor, but I only have infantry and 2 heavy lokhurst.

>>96344205
Who cares don’t tailor and have fun even in a loss

>>96344205
Do people often bring many vehicles for 1k games?

Minor progress.
Out of 10 captains this pilot test model is turning out great. Waiting on thunder hammer, no idea what head I'm going to get for him.

I think I have about 2-3 hours of cutting crap off this model and shaping things... Fuck the dick tabard paper thing. I had to add sprue glue to reshape the codpiece.

>>96344198
decalslopper doesn't play, he just stages photos

>>96344213
I don't know.
He has more models than me and this is the list he runs.
>almost exclusively plays 1k because 2k takes too long, no other reason
>it's not OP, it's just a very efficient list for sisters you can outmaneuver and outscore if you try

>>96344205
>vahl and two immolators
tell him to fuck off and pick an actually balanced 1k list

>>96344230
Yea ok nomodel and nogame biatch!

Has there ever been mention of a power chainsword? I don’t remember any mention of one. The closest I can remember is a chain fist for Dreadnought.

>>96344205
At Vahl and 2 Immolators you're also gonna have to accelerate, man.

>>96344241
eviscerators larger versions but have powered teeth i some ancient lore

>>96344245
Ok. Thanks.

>>96344139
Quality terrain

new leak, they are actually planning to renew the grey knights.

Kaldor is getting a return

What is your favorite 40k model you own? For me it’s Calgar. He just looks so badass.

>>96344231
It just sounds like a very waac list for 1k. Vahl and Immolators when everyone runs mostly infantry...

>>96344265
Please be true. I’m holding off buying the new combat patrol in fear of the range refresh.

will see how it goes, I beat space marines pretty well at 1k
maybe the doomstalker pops off or he doesn't have the miracles to blank my lokhurst heavies

>>96344265
except that is 3D printed slop

>>96344205
that faggot's bringing one of the sweatiest combos possible for a 1k list fuck him tailor your shit to counter him if he's going to be a cunt like that

>>96344276
damn 3d prints look that good now?

>>96344265
Duh.

>>96344282
with an 8k printer well calibrated yeah. the base is obviously not a GW base, and all leaks are either boxes or new on sprue.

>>96344293
you don't even need an 8k lmao
my mars 1 pro with antialiasing turned on prints crisp enough that people can't tell which of my models are scans until they feel their weight

>>96344265
Nice try but with how GW operate now. Draigo would have an obnoxious base, not that wishy washy kind.

aight, sorry for the low quality effort shit post
its actually I abominable intelligence slop

>>96344176
don't buy intercessor or impulsors

>>96344303
yeah no shit all the paint pots and the fake latin on his armor were melty gibberish

>>96344176
You could definitely use a second impulsor, could possibly use a third crusade squad, but probably don't have much use for more intercessors or another Marshall.

The discount is generally only worthwhile if you want everything in the box. In your case it might be cheaper to just get the transport and crusader squad separate if that's all you need from it.

>>96344306
Why not?

I like the gravitas of the victrix guard. I remember being super jealous of them as they released long before any melee primaris variants. I like that they're basically proto-bladeguard.

>>96344306
Intercessors and Impulsors are both good what are you talking about?

>>96344293
>>96344300
Its AI you retards.

>>96344332
irrelevant

If I want my guys to have the good weapon, can I still build them with the cooler looking weapon?

Armies for this feel?
>https://youtu.be/iIC9VRD-ZAk?si=1IePkLVn3Kjb2-AM&t=50

Thinking either Guard or GSC? Orkz?

>>96344340
That's against the rules. You can try but most people won't play with you.

>>96344340
nobody will care, wysiwyg is dead and good riddance, only peabrained aphantasia-addled retards liked it

>>96344348
>Music for religious zealots
Sisters of Battle. Obviously.

>>96344340
Do you want to:
A. Enter tournaments
B. Play casual games against pedantic faggots

If either of the above are true, it's a problem. If not, go ahead.

>>96344340
Sure, why not! The details don’t matter, right? Hey, since models are expensive and painting is difficult, just break out the lego men. They’re colorful little humanoids, close enough, right?

>>96344361
trying too hard

>>96344358
as a frequent tournament player, literally nobody cares. as long as you're clear about what models have what weapons its irrelevant.

he'd only lose out on games against pedantic faggots.

>>96344365
He's replying to a retard. The content of the message is in danger of flying over head if he doesn't spell it out.

>>96344371
the only retard is the one who can't rotate an apple in his head and threw a tantrum over somebody daring giving a cooler looking chainsword to the sergeant wielding a power sword

>>96344370
>he'd only lose out on games against pedantic faggots.
So everybody at the LGS

>>96344355
Yeah but Orks have exploders and hiluxes, while GSC have ieds.

>>96344370
Yeah it probably won't fuck him over, but the potential is still there depending on his local scene.

>>96344375
I can count on 2 hands the amount of times my opponents "forgot" what their substitutions were and tried to use their modeled weapons until I pointed it out.

I will admit since gear was no longer factored into points costs my opponents' "forgetfulness" has decreased significantly.

>>96344361
I am so confused. Should I be buying lego men instead?

Guys, this why we're such low pop.
Stop being power-posting idiots. You look weak when you try to power post. Compensating, in fact.
>reply to me
do it

>>96344395
I love you anon, I hope you have a good night.

>>96344395
I'm new here, what's a power post?

Post what you've completed most recently!

>>96344400
please clean your fingers jesus fuck

>>96344395
I don't think about you at all

>>96344399
>power post
looks like this:
>>96344371
>>96344353
>>96344349

>>96344400
My most recent painted stuff is AoS, but I've been building some votann stuff tonight. Does that count?

>>96344400
>model sinking into basing material
You should base your models before you glue them to the base.

>>96344400
Technically finished painting them, just need to paint the bases.

>>96344410
NTA, but I'm pretty sure a giant robot like that would sink into the soil when it walks.

>>96344395
We're low pop because of the retarded 300 second post timers

>>96344400
getting started on a captain to hopefully finish before the month is up but just th cape alone is giving me doubts

>>96344414
Thats true. It gets a pass I guess

>>96344414
So many battletech threads in /k/ we had to remind them of the sinking laws of gravity and ground pressure.

So many fucking threads....
>maybe I should go make one myself for the fun of it

>>96344421
Why would /k/ have battletech threads

>>96344400
I no longer complete things. I get everything to 50-75% completion and then get distracted by the next project.

>>96344423
/k/ is about hypothetical weapons as well, which walkers always ends up as a topic

>>96344400
>"this imperial knight smells very clean"

>>96344400
Not even remotely my most recent, but I don't think I've posted it here before.

>>96344416
Deployed to the cum bubble planet

>>96344139
Game looks lovely anon, shame about your loss.

armageddon crusade game today. 1000 points tyranids vs our newest guy. A tau doing a Guevessa themed army. Tyranids overrunning a fortified zone.
He did pretty good all things considered, denying me an agenda and one potential strategic points.
We were both pretty suprised finding his entire army including heroes is ld7+ -

Some highlights were locking one transports doors for 5 turns through battleshock and forcing fallbacks(thanks deathleaper aka lictor prime)

And zoanthropes deleting 5 or 6 assorted units.
His list: patient hunter
2 devilish things
10 Breachers in one with fire blade
some other inf squad in the other
Pathfinders
Stealthsuit x3
Commander in suit
3 broadsides
1 or two more inf units.

I brought: subterranean assault
Trygon prime
Neurotyrant
Deathleaper
Ooe

1 biovore
1 ripper
2 carnifexen (one devourer and scythe, one dev and crushing claws)
6 zoanthropes

I underestimated his devilish having 2 hunter killers each so trygon prime made a tunnel and died for his sins after ingressing. Lesson learned.

He went for a weighted flank deployment which was completely blunted by spore mines.

Why are Adeptus Custodes so bad in terms of the meta? They seem to slay at 1000 pts.

>>96344467
Custards are pubstompers. Their role is to shit all over casuals by walking down the middle and fucking everything they touch. Low skill floor, low skill ceiling.

>>96344455
Wow awesome game brother

>>96344455
Anyway the triple carnifex threat emerging 6 away and rerolling charges killed the commander and reduced the broadsides to one, the broadside shot and killed 2 carnifexen. But the damage was done.

I split fire like crazy with my zoanthropes and they just obliterated everything.
Anyway I’ll fight against a chaos knight who’s won 3/4 games next, since that will be an interesting spectacle.

Need to do a little more cleaning on these lads but I'm really liking the model so far. I'm not putting the third dude on each because it's already way too cluttered.

>>96344470
Success breeds jealousy.

Man I hate how swingy this game can be at times.
>expose my DG prince to a S6 D2 flamethrower
>do some quick math on my head, that should average a bit less than a wound in shooting
>no dev wounds so invuln and fnp should smooth it out
>instead the guy hands me 4 sixes
>I fail every single invuln
>then only fnp one of 8 wounds
>my daemon prince is now on 3 wounds off a flamer with strength 6
It's so difficult to try and play by the numbers. I also swear there are some people who just magically affect the dice because this always happens with a friend of mine, I swear if I need a 4+ invuln to roll decently it never will against him, I will always fail every one

>>96344478
Merk those Knightfags bro

>>96344486
Shut the fuck up decalslopper

>>96344488
Why bitch?

>>96344484
roll your dice by actually letting the dice roll off your hands, if you crapshoot (just toss) it's proven to reproduce the same result time and again

sharp corner dice roll more because the corners catch in crapshooting, hence why rounded corner dice suck when tossed... you let them roll before they get off your hands

>>96344484
A couple weeks ago I had a Plague Marine squad overwatch the Lion and kill him from full wounds. Sometimes the dice just roll your way.

>>96344486
>>96344488
>same typing style
>>96344489
>suddenly changes typing style
Nah, stop samefagging. Make a GIF of you recording, not a snippet you can edit the (you) out of.

>>96344494
Good god man are you serious?

>>96344494
to iterate why it's the same typing style, let me say this

>people tend to lead the first or second word with the same starting letter, the first two
>>96344486
>>96344488
>leads with a T for second word
also, when speaking in their own minds, you say what they say out loud in your mind and you get their tempo down flat.
^merk ^those ^knightfags Vbro
^shut ^the ^fuck ^up Vdecalslopper
(upnotes^ versus downV notes)

>>96344496
the thread is so slow the second or third time the "argument in under a minute" happens uncannily to avoid looking like a samefag, while phoneposting to avoid the timer

>>96344475
>>96344475
>>96344486
Thanks anon, I’m just planning on killing his 3 other units so he only has his big guy (his list is like one big knight, 2 war dogs, a squad of demons who deep strike a point somewhere)
I think I can alpha strike the small fry then just try and throw everything at the knight. That’s the plan anyway

>>96344508
the earlier you remove big guns the less damage they get to return their worth in

>>96344501
Genuine schizophrenic

>>96344178
>>96344182
>>96344186
>>96344306
>>96344312
Thank you for the advice. I'm tempted to get two because it's no longer available.

I like orks but having an ork army seems daunting.

>>96344160
>uses sonic as an objective marker
You know I was joking before but you are kinda starting to look like a 40k flavoured chris chan

>>96344517
Ork players are the worst anyway.

>>96344510
>>96344488
>>96344483
>>96344447
>>96344404
>>96344365
These are guesses but once you apply the tempo theme:
>>96344501
It might make sense. You can pick people out easily this way. It's speech pattern recognition.

>>96344522
No that's still guard and eldar players followed by custodes

>>96344501
Anon, are you doing okay?

>>96344525
>custodes
Fuck off, I just want to play with my spear dreads

>>96344523
Mental illness on display

>>96344523
Proof positive he's out of his mind.

Custodes proving they are the worst.

>>96344531
well, editors are good at this, I just took a moment of my time to goof off on it

>>96344538
Literally out of his mind.

I've lost track of who's mad at who and why, but I just have to say this amateur language pattern analysis is extremely embarrassing and whoever posted it should take a moment to self reflect.

>>96344545
I find its easier to just ignore when people get pissy lmao

Thread going so fast nobody will realize i am painting poxwalkers with nothing but contrast paints because I am lazy

Should I run two land fortresses at 2k? I like the model a lot, but worry two is too many.

>>96344139
>hm people hate on my avatarfagging how do I do it without my furry knights?
>i know i'll use a catchphrase so people know it's me
>peeps seems gay enough let's go with that
Genius

>>96344549
Healthier, if nothing else.

>>96344559
They say the 2k game is made for its primary limits. It's not so swingy and someone can just change out their devastators to lascannons and just one shot it with some stupid buffs or something.
>rerolls something
>keeps a dreadnought near to reroll misses of 1's
>marks them as their focus or something
>gets bonus to hit with some other unit
It adds up and it's dead, deathstar style lists are half dead atm.

>>96344559
If they cant deal with two land raider what can they deal with? It's not like you're putting 5 knights on the table. They don't even have an invuln iirc.

>>96344566
That's sort of what I'm worried about. I figure putting 500 points into two models seems like they're just gonna get removed and I'm going to be playing down points.

whats a good all rounder vehicle to take for csm? A chaos predator? Im not a big vehicle fan but I want to try getting at least one or so. I saw that duncan death guard kitbash vid and it looked really cool and I definitely want to try something like it.

>>96344580
If you can play a side flank push with them and just own something they can't get near then that's the point of hard fast units. If they have can openers they will be attracted to them. So if you have a response unit, like a good melee unit to reserve until then. You have it planned. He has to reveal his unit lists anyway, so you can just assume.

>>96344582
Vindicator

>>96344582
>what unit
What detachment?
If you're doing a Zealot list then the most powerful tank indeed is a Predator Annihilator using Dark Pacts. Sustained Hits on 4 Lascannon shots.

>>96344554
a 4/10 paintjob is perfect serviceable to get stuff on the table no shame in it

>>96344597
For the overwhelming majority of the time, anything more than that is squandered effort anyway. Especially if you don't enjoy it.

>>96344582
Depends on detachment, annihilators are good for anti vehicle (though they are very swingy and some games won't do anything), and vindicators especially in the detachment with marks are very good all rounders due to blast, good damage, good synergy with sustained hits, beefy, do not care about getting bogged in melee.

>>96344593
dont really care or know that much about the meta/listbuilding aspects. Just something I can paint for fun, take in all 5 chaos armies - or reasonably proxy (yes I have a problem) and not be something completely worthless in game.

>>96344554
Contrastslopping poxwalkers is the objectively correct way to paint them. They're massed chaff. They won't be on the board long enough to even look at. But make sure you make your Plague Marines look nice.

>>96344603
>Use in all 5
Rhino is your answer then.

>>96344603
If you're planning on using the same vehicle in CSM as a Cult-based codex then its easy to plan it before buying.

Like a Nurgle/Tzeentch tank. Predators and Land Raiders are in both of their cult armies and can be used in the CSM codex "As Zealot Detachment" without shame.

Unfortunately Vindicators are not in the Nurgle faction codex. But can be used in CSM Zealot list if you use a nurgle Vindicator.

My suggestion is to ask yourself what you like in a vehicle, since theres a variety of units to plan around the rest. People pick tanks to pick off other tanks right? A Lascannon predator fits that role.
>just be sure to add the add-on weapon options since they're free

>>96344605
Land Raider is also available to all 5 codexes.

>>96344599
>>96344597
This. And besides that, most gaming tables don't have good lighting anyway. For gaming, anything above 6/10 is a waste of time. Anything above is purely for showing off (online), with well lit and high res pics. That is fine in itself, but should never discourage anyone from bringing 4-6/10 minis to a game.

>>96344627
graytide and undercoatide is unsavory

>>96344265
The fuck you mean a leak? that's a joytoy on a base

>>96344638
Correct. But pretending that anything other than base coating and washing matters when you're looking at it from table top distance is actively preventing people from playing games.

>>96344663
NTA but I was pretty sure kaldor draigo was gonna be an end-of-edition release, bit given how the codex is treating him like yarrick I suspect hes gonna be gone for a bit so they can do more for his return, i.e, probably 11th edition for a campaign tie in

I can see your badly painted miniatures during games and I'm judging you for it. I'm also gossiping with other players about your bad painting skills and tactical acumen.

>>96344400
Now working on bladeguard vets, but they're not as fun as the sternguards for some reason.

>>96344679
I'll call you an asshole to your face instead of being a gossipy bitch.

>>96344679
That would imply you played games or owned models.

40k needs proper dragons in it.

>>96344580
T12 W16 2+ is not a trivial profile to kill and they're not overcosted. It's not the kind of profile that will die the moment it peeks its head out from a ruin, we're not in 9th anymore.
I am not super knowledgeable about Votann but if I'm not wrong they have pretty good guns, can transport stuff and even have OC5 or so? And at T12 can do some decent tank shocks in a pinch. They seem like a perfectly fine tank to run, what a Land Raider wishes it was honestly.

>>96344679
Should Warhammer 40,000 try harder to imitate the presentation of Mutant Chronicles?

>>96344700
>40k imitation
oh never, GW would never do that

>>96344696
Magmadroths should be in salamanders

I hope horus heresy stuff drops in price some more.

>>96344715
>Horus heresy: the drop price massacre

>>96344717
Tempted to run a bunch of Mk3 marines as khorne berzerkers. A 2k list can only support 5 fat units of them. Which by amazon prices is about 350 bucks at most. Just have to convert all the hand weapons for them.

>>96344715
GW dropping prices??!

>>96344679
i only judge the painting skills of my opponents when they're using the same scheme as me

>>96344726
>I am the emperor's sp-*crunch*

>>96344139
That table looks awesome, I still hope the game was fun. No game this weekend but last week my wife and I played our Imperial Guard and Blood Angels vs this nice guy at our local shop using his pop up terrain and his Nids. It was a good game we had a strong start but due to some dice flub ups in turn two he was able to secure victory the following turn.
>>96344455
I love the table!

>GW dragging their feet on the 1000 Primaris releases
>zero info on the end narrative for 10th edition
>work was garbage today
Tell me it gets better...

>>96344726
The fuck was that Knight painted with? Texture paints?

>>96344737
If that was your day then you'll live.
>at least 9 of my customers lost loved ones the past month
>yahoo newsfeed had at least 10 famous people the last month pass away, every day it seems
Just reminds me of the people's birthdays I missed.

You'll live.

>>96344741
>>at least 9 of my customers lost loved ones the past month
yeah, I lost my grandma too recently...


will you give me a discount now?

>>96344696
they cant do a kroot dragon, disney would sue them

Do I finish 2000 pts of my army or do 1000 pts and do another army?

>>96344725
All the third party retailers overpurchased HH shit for the new release and it sold way worse than they expected.

Which is funny becsuse the launch box is the new starter set so its not limited in any way and all the shit in it is either available already or about to be very soon so it was really predictable.

So you can get that shit at up to a 35% discount in some places, its like Dominion on fast forward, but at a smaller scale.

Why don't Imperial Agents have rules for including Sisters of Silence?

>>96344768
>its like Dominion on fast forward, but at a smaller scale.
I don't see any discounts for the HH set while I can grab Domininion for below 100$

>>96344501
Meds

>>96344265
>nonsense lettering everywhere
This is ai and if you can't see that immediately you are retarded

>>96344696
kys ritualposter

I have never ever in my life cared about bases. But i think it is time to start doing that. As i want to save as much efforts and time as possible, here's my idea: i'll just cover bases with some glue and then put models into the beach sand.

There's a positive side of such approach, besides saving time, i can watch sunsets and feel ocean wind on my skin, doing hobby at the same time.

Picrel shows how it works. To me it's fine enough. What do you think?

>>96344781
Just buy some texture paint and slap it on.

>>96344781
Quickest is just slapping texture paint on or thinned pva plus sand in a tub, sealed with more thinned pva

One thing people really have to level with at this point is that the lore is pointless. This means the average Primaris battalion are fucksticks that will get randomly wiped by a squad of under half strength Guardsmen, an Eldar Titan can get stomped by a single Inquisitor in melee combat, and a trio of Daemon Princes will turn tail and flee once a motley crew of Genestealer Cultists remotely sets off a group of fireworks fifty feet away from their position.

>>96344781
The second you're covering an entire base in glue then you may as well be doing a coat of texture paste instead. Doing this is actually more steps than just texture paste and some rocks superglue down

>>96344705
Agree. Thunderwolf cavalry is gay, but giant fire lizard cavalry will be cool.

>>96344807
> Thunderwolf cavalry is gay

no its not. i am so tired of people shitting on space wolves for actually leaning into their themes instead of just being "man with bolter" like so many other chapters

What the best way to paint sororitas white armour? Grey seer into shade? Is vallejo dead bone white better to highlight than other whites?

Also, could someone provide me with l the image/meme of the sororitas drinking milk, please?

>>96344766
Emperor's Spears look cool.
I do wonder how those spears attach to the back however.

>>96344813
No its definitely gay. I asked e621 and everything.

>>96344781
like the other anons said texture paint is the easiest way to do bases but you can take it further with a basecoat, wash and drybrush on top of texture paint which will massively elevate your bases for almost zero effort.
people ask me for my base recipes all the time when i literally do just that

>>96344737
>>zero info on the end narrative for 10th edition
Supreme Grand Master Kaldor Draigo challenges supreme failer-upper Lucius the Eternal to a duel. Incredibly, defying all odds and expectations, Lucius handily defeats Supreme Grand Master Kaldor Draigo, leaving the Grey Knights Chapter bereft one Supreme Grand Master Kaldor Draigo.

>>96344781
This looks like crap, you may as well use texture paint. If youre going to use rocks or sand glued to the base you need to paint it for it to look right.

>>96344830
>>96344804
>>96344796
>>96344792
Okay anons, thank you. I was under impression, that working with texture paint is something time consuming. Will try it now!

>>96344638
A 5/10 paintjob is neither, but way more achievable for your average player than anything above a 6, which is what is posted online most of the time. It gives people wrong impressions.

>>96344800
fluff is not pointless
all of that is perfectly within the bounds of the fluff
your brain is just too rotten on biased factionism and power levels shit to accept it

>>96344814
>What the best way to paint sororitas white armour? Grey seer into shade? Is vallejo dead bone white better to highlight than other whites?
best way is generic grey rattlecan primer highlighted with vallejo extra opaque bluegrey and pro acryl heavy titanium white. or just spray white and use one of the desaturated blue contrast/speed paints.

>>96344849
yeah texture paint can take anywhere from 30 minutes to 24 hours to dry depending on the exact paint and how thick you slop it on
letting it cure overnight is what i usually do

>>96344853
Secret to white armor is following:
- Base with any white spray. I bought my in a car stuff section in Auchan, i don't know the brand, but it's white with a slight grey shade. Like pearl.

- Cover miniature with glossy nuln oil.

That's it. You white miniature is done.
I did that to my sisters.

>>96344582
vindicators and both types of predator can do some work

>>96344868
Show us the sisters?

>>96344868
nuln over white looks like shit even if you thin it down, sorry your models lied to you

the "secret" to painting white is to paint it last and leave as much grey as possible. way easier and more realistic looking. only top highlights should be genuine white.

>>96344868
The real secret to painting white is ultra matte varnish but you didn't hear that from me ok

>>96344814
The secret to white that reads as white is that there's very little pure white (if any) in reality, it's all usually grey. You want pure white exclusively for your highlights.
Then you want to do some careful recess shading, there are some contrast paints that are good for this. You can choose whether you want a cold white in which case you go for blue-ish shadows, a neutral white in which case you go for neutral greys or a warm one in which case you go for warmer greys.
For this one I did ghost grey, shaded with I think it's called gryph charger grey or something like that, then highlighted with pure white because I wanted it to look very sanitized and cold. I don't think it came out all that good but at least it gives an idea of how it looks.

It makes sense CSM don't get to be Primaris, but it doesn't make sense that CSM wouldn't get Primaris vehicles. They would capture them and reverse engineer them for sure.

>>96344849
My method is slap on texture paste, leave overnight to dry, drybrush it in the morning (takes 30 seconds)

>>96344896
When do you add skulls, stones and other trophies? Before on the base or on the texture paint?

Do you disembark from model or base

>>96344768
I did a quick check and most of the cheap stuff seems to just be rulebooks and such, minis seem to be still in high demand. I only checked wayland and element though.

>>96344907
wayland claimed they sold their 1000 copies of the starter set overnight a week after slapping the 35% discount on it. bit suss.

>>96344912
That's because autist tactics did a video on it

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96344895
and why wouldn't they be able to reverse engineer the rubicon?
or get new renegades that turned chaos after the ultima founding?
it only makes sense if we assume heretics are almost exclusively long war veterans and/or marines don't fall to chaos since the era indomitus
and from the meta perspective of gw wanting the ranges to be visibly different and not wanting to bother with making spiky versions of everything, both model-wise and rule-wise

if there is one good corner to add chaos primaris is the red corsairs, the premier non-legion force of non-long war veterans, who more or less desperately lacks a proper gimmick to stand out as a subfaction of chaos
huron can be the one to have acquired the prized technique and tools to have a reliable rubicon in the forces of chaos, and be the first chaos marine to cross it himself, the corsairs can be where the vast majority of new renegades would flock to, corsairs can be the detachment with a rule that allows them to field a number of primaris units, like genestealers field imperial guard units

it's a win win for everyone, it doesn't break gw's modus operandi, it doesn't require extensive releases, it contextualises where chaos primaris typically are, it gives red corsairs a somewhat unique aesthetic of kitbashes with imperial units, it gives huron a new importance in chaos politics, and it gives his detachment something to distinguish itself from the other chaos marine detachments

>>96344942
>and why wouldn't they be able to reverse engineer the rubicon?
Too stupid to do it and also already living CSM are too mutated to survive through the process anyway.

So I have a friend who is BIG into Armageddon Steel Legion, and want to gift them a piece of painted machinery for their upcoming birthday. Any of the tank models currently sold by GW would work for them? I am honestly not too familiar with those, and since the friend cares about the accuracy, I wouldn’t want to give them something that wouldn’t quite work for the Legion.

>>96344922
are there haemunculi chefs?

and I don't mean soul cooking, I mean normal cooking, with normal ingredients, prepared with normal means
where perhaps they look scary and terrifying and use all sorts of wicked and crooked blades and implements, but just to cut ingredients harmlessly and arrange a normal plate with good edible not poisoned food on it

>>96344951
>they/them
Just say "he" holy shit, we all know it's a dude.

>96344957
>rent free

>>96344951
I'm not that knowledgeable about the subfaction, but I'm relatively sure the two things they have are yarrick (who's dead) and a focus on vehicles but expressively for massed troops transport, so lots of chimeras and in case of a superheavy tank*, the one with big bolters that carries troops
although I might be wrong
*there was also yarrick's own ride that was a converted baneblade
link related looks like a rather accurate recreation of the conversion for printing
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/citadel-of-egotism
even if yarrick is dead, the tank behind used in his memory, perhaps with a statue of him rather than the living guy standing on the pulpit, might be a thing to consider too

>>96344868
Don't tell beginners to use black washes on white undercoat

can you take knights as allies with your space marines or chaos space marines?

It fucked me up when I learned 'Eavy Metal primes their Admech models black when painting them in the Metalica scheme.

>>96344917
a guy who gets 30k views globally sold 1k boxes on a UK webstore?

>>96344957
They has been used as a term for singular person for centuries in english.

>>96344970
yes
one big knight or up to three small knights

Rumors for point update

Deathguard
Putrifier +10
Deathshroud +20
Flamer drones +10
Gun drones +20
Blightspawn +15
Lord of contagion +15
Lord of virulence +10
Haulers +10
PBC +15
Poxwalker +5
Tallyman +10
Typhus +10

Thousand sons
Magnus +15
Infernal master +10
Vortex beast +15
Rubrics +5
Sorcerer +10
Bow goats +30 for 6
Bow goats +10 for 3
Shaman +5

Guard
Dorns +10 both versions
Leontus -20
Gaunts ghosts -10

World Eaters
Khan +15
Angron -25
Spawn +10
Eightbound -15
Exalted Eightbound -20
Forgefiend +20

>>96344922
you know for a fact that when they do they're gonna be sanitized and modernized with all the sharp edges removed just like the modern necrons.

There are rumors circulating that Lady Malys is going to be the release with Dark Eldar this edition; however, the codex does feature the new archon in product shots and new wracks which are going to be in the second kill team box of this season. Grotesques are missing from any pictures even on the datasheets, but they are in the codex I suspect they didn't know if they would be giving Dark Eldar the wave this edition.

>>96344982
How are modern Necrons more sanitized?

>>96344986
>new wracks
that's not a rumor that's circulating, this is your wishlist you're pretending is a rumor adjusted to what we've seen about products going momentarily out of stock

>>96344951
Chimera troop transport works, because the steel legion is a mechanised regiment. Alternatively any Leman Russ.

>>96344995
>that's not a rumor that's circulating,
correct it's a new one because the dark eldar codex has reached certain people

>>96344963
He explicitly said to use a gloss wash.

>>96344952
From Path of the Dark Eldar:

>Another, perhaps more heartfelt, cheer erupted, drums thundered and pipes skirled in the tumult. Dancers stepped lightly among the tables to perform as the music calmed to a more languorous refrain. Yllithian turned his attention to a plate of jellied pin-stars harvested from sunless seas, pushing the luminous echinoderms around with a silver-tined fork. The accoutrements of each table were rich and finely crafted; the plates, bottles, chalices, goblets, bowls, the multitudinous and highly specialised knives, forks and spoons – all were made with fantastic artistry and skill, but all were mismatched with one another. No artisan of Commorragh had made these things to unify form and purpose as only eldar hands might do, rather they were articles of plunder taken from a million worlds. El’Uriaq’s feasting tables had all the riotous barbarity of a pirate’s lair.

>The thought depressed Yllithian. Were there not artisans enough in the dark city to make goods of their own aesthetic? He already knew the sad truth. The kabals prized plunder more highly – what could be taken had become worth more than what could be made with their own hands. The chaotic diversity hid a message for the keen observer – El’Uriaq had reach. Even from hiding he could pluck treasures from anywhere in the galaxy at his whim and scatter them before his followers. Yllithian had no doubt that it was a display that impressed the lowborn members of the assembly, but it left him feeling cold.

>>96344979
>no mention of orks

Guess we wait until 11e

Wracks don't even need an update, just a box of 10

>>96344982
Oh no. Those poor, modern Necron players.

>>96344979
Unironically not enough for DG. PCB need more, DS need way more if they are keeping deep strike, and gun drones need to be in the realm of +35

>>96345015
They should've done the deceiver first, there are so many models you can proxy as the nightbringer

Hey everyone, hope you're enjoying the last few weeks of summer. Just a quick reminder about the collage.
This month's theme is character.
The deadline is midnight the 31st est and I'll post anchor posts the last week where you can submit your entries as usual.
If you have any suggestions for next month's theme feel free to share.

>>96344400
This Terminator squad has been a nightmare

>>96345032
Next month's theme should be something vague, like support. Sure that could be fire support, but it could also be logistics or something

>>96344998
>because the dark eldar codex has reached certain people
no, it hasn't, you're making this up

>>96344957
Who hurt you dude

>>96345015
All C'TAN armies are gonna look sick

>>96344962
Okay that’s actually lit. Thanks for the idea!

>>96344997
Do Solar Auxilla Leman Russes work as well? Or are they too “old” for Armageddon to use?

Playing DoW again got me thinking pure copium. What if the updated "tactical squad" is a mix of tacticals and devastators? As in, 5 to 10 dudes per unit, 2 per 5 can get plasma incinerators/pyreblasters/melta rifles or heavy bolters/multimeltas/pyrecannons. The last dev commentary pretty much confirmed points for wargear is coming back, so in a single squad you could combine intercessors (just take no specials or heavies), tacticals and devastators. Let them drive in a rhino and you have a great and flexible battleline unit.

>>96344123 (OP)
>Mechanical Xenos Edition

Oh, are we just making sweeping retcons again? God, fuck this gay setting.

>>96345054
the "updated tactical squad" rumor is something that's been distorted via chinese telephone.

The new unit is going to be a veteran intercessor unit with mixed marks of armor and thats it.

>>96345058
"veteran intercessor" is just sternguard and it already got updated.

>>96345054
Cawl would never allow mixed loadouts in his Primaris Space Marine squads.

>>96345062
Nobody said anything about mixed loadouts.

>>96345054
>The last dev commentary pretty much confirmed points for wargear is coming back,

could you post a screenshot

>>96345066
It was mentioned in the How We Roll episode of writing a codex. Warhammer+. Here's a recap if you don't mind Autismus Tactics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Q2xwZNQmk&ab_channel=AuspexTactics

>>96345015
Is this the best box art paintjob GW has ever done for a 40k model? Whoever painted it knocked it out of the park

>>96345074
oh, ill watch that then (the actual episode)

>>96345054
>so in a single squad you could combine intercessors (just take no specials or heavies), tacticals and devastators. Let them drive in a rhino and you have a great and flexible battleline unit.
That's literally just a Deathwatch kill team. Why don't you play DW?

https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/space-marines/Fortis-Kill-Team

>>96345082
Deathwatch have their own wargear and can also get a ton of melee stuff. I don't have a deathwatch army. I just want tacticals/devastarors to survive in some shape and the basic DoW space marine squad that can get 4 specials or heavies gave me the idea. It also slots pretty nicely into the current primaris roster without making any of the dedicated special weapon squads redundant.

>>96345082
I doubt these squads will survive when the new primaris deathwatch vet kit comes out.

>>96345032
>If you have any suggestions for next month's theme feel free to share.
diorama/battle scenes

>>96344905
Before, I PVA rocks to the base then texture paste can meet their bottoms and they look sunken into dirt

>>96344952
Craftworld eldar probably have a path of the chef, and those eldar spend like 200 years autistically focusing on cookery before they change path

>>96345092
I'm genuinely not sure. If you get rid of the 4 special kill teams (which came out only 8 months ago btw) that really hits them for no real reason. If the new KT kit replaces anything, it's Deathwatch Veterans for which they are an almost identical replacement for. Both kits have

Dual Blades
Frag Canon
Infernus Heavy Bolter
Shield
Xenophase Blade
special KT backpacks and grenade pouches
studs on the collar evoking the Mk 8 armor (even though Mk 8 is way sexier than the imitation primaris stuff)

my local "meta" is filled with pubstompers
or rather WAACfags who don't actually understand competitive level play and have never attempted it

how could I smash them at a game and humble them?

>>96344979
DG needs more than just points but I assume there will be rules changes too.
>Putrifier +10
Should be +15.
>Deathshroud +20
>Flamer drones +10
Fine.
>Gun drones +20
Should be more. I think +30 is the absolute minimum, that is simply the best gun platform in the game.
>Blightspawn +15
Doesn't need a nerf at all, Malignant + Putrifier are optimal basically 90% of the time.
>Lord of contagion +15
Lance + Sustained Hits 1 is just too much, should just lose the SH1, get a weaker rule and maybe go down a bit.
>Lord of virulence +10
Could use more honestly.
>Haulers +10
Could be 15 ngl.
>PBC +15
Stupid change, PBCs are already quite mediocre and this puts them at 210 points which is "don't even bother" territory. You don't even max PBCs in fucking Mortarion's Hammer which is their detachment and they can get full hit re-rolls and hit afflicted targets across the map. They're just there because there are only so many vehicles you can put.
>Poxwalker +5
Still the best chaff unit in the game lmao they should probably lose Infiltrate or go to OC0.
>Tallyman +10
>Typhus +10
Typhus doesn't need a nerf at all. The tallyman one is okay, CP generation and sitting in backline on a PM statline for 40 points is way too cheap.

>>96345117
You get good at the game and outplay them. If they're bad and just abusing OP lists it should be reasonably easy as long as it's not DG/IG

>>96345106
Yeah but all those kill teams are nothing but a pdf stopgag because the deathwatch vet team wasn't primaris. Deathwatch isn't even getting a codex this edition but they'll definitely get one next so they could change a lot.

>>96345124
>Deathwatch isn't even getting a codex this edition but they'll definitely get one next
lol keep the faith buddy

>>96345100
>aspect of the flipping burger

>>96345124
This is wrong. All those kill teams use Primaris units. Actually read the datasheets. They are all primaris weapons. The only firstborn things in the entire codex are DW veterans and DW terminators.

>>96345106
>even though Mk 8 is way sexier
It's not, mk8 looks fucking terrible. The ones we do have are universally reviled because they look god awful. It's the reason why you practically never see anyone use them even before 10th rolled around.

>>96345124
>but they'll definitely get one next
I wouldn't be too sure about that

>>96345117
40k is well past the days when the people here would help you make a list better than the average person.

Just build a slant list

>>96345032
Duel! Two minis on the same base duking it out.

>>96345133
Actually read my post, mate.
>>96345126
>>96345140
I wouldn't have said it a month ago but they just showed an updated deathwatch vet kill team so they will be getting something.

>>96345106
People pretending that everybody didn't fucking hate mk8 until 2017 are hilarious

>>96345137
>It's the reason why you practically never see anyone use them even before 10th rolled around.
I think being out for less than a year before primaris came out and put a death sentence on all firstborn has more to do with that.

>>96345160
We've had mk8 models for 35 years tourist

>>96345158
This. Nobody liked MK8, just as nobody likes MK10 now. 6 and 7 are all that was ever needed in terms of space marine armour + termis ofc.

>>96345119
I don't like 10th ed 40k so I cannot call myself "good" at it as I don't know all the minor details

but given what >>96345145 said, it may just be best to build a slant list and ask experienced friends who know how to play those kind of lists

>>96345160
>GW releases dogshit looking models that nobody likes
>GW then releases objectively less shitty looking models
Yeah, it's not at all surprising why nobody bought the garbage that is mk8.

>>96345163
The only kit were you had an actual full suit of mk8 armour was the deathwatch vets and people loved them when they came out. They just were short lived because of primaris. Before that you got AT MOST a single chestplate with a gorget for your sergeant. Idiot.

>>96345157
>so they will be getting something.
yeah, the deathwatch vet kill team, shoved in imperial agents

>>96345118
>sitting in backline on a PM statline for 40 points is way too cheap.
>I want my mortars/smart missile system to be able to kill your lone character turn 1
Stop.

>>96345171
>The only kit were you had an actual full suit of mk8 armour was the deathwatch vets and people loved them when they came out.
No they didn't. This pure historic revisionism, nobody liked those models because they looked ugly as fuck with terrible proportions and shitty helmets.

>>96344875
Dude, i don't have them now. I lended them to friend. I have one photo or them. The girl of the very front with simulacrum is painted, just like i described: sprayed and nuln-oiled. As you can see, this photography is made from the angle pretty similar to one, you're using when you're playing the game (and we're talking about playing the game, right? Not painting for the shelf) and there's nothing bad with that miniature that could catch your eye. So my method works perfectly.

>>96344963
Idk, what's the problem? It looks, like white NASA spacesuit that experienced some otherwordly soil. I'm genuinely asking, it's not sarcasm or irony.

>>96344878
Again, if you're goal is to play painted miniatures and you're grown man with real-life stuff to do, my painting method is good.

Artfully painted battleline miniatures make sense only if you don't play and just keep them on the shelf to yourself. (Which is not understandable to me).

I can get why you want to paint your demon prince or imperial knight well, but not infantry, which you need like 50 of.

>>96345171
Retarded tourist

>>96345171
People have mocked the mk8 turtleneck armor since the 90s when the first jes art and sculpts of them came out

>>96344979
That's it? Other factions?

deathwatch isn't a real army and all the other subfactions like them have a home in kill team now. the 40k range is going to consolidate into a stronger core after decades of branching out into niche shit that doesn't sell.

>>96345174
His statline is fine, but 40 points is too little. A tiny little increase doesn't change much, he's just a backfield sitter and a nice to have for non Vectorium lists.

>>96345179
You're a grown man, you can managed to paint something better than a child with a physical disability
The plastic you're spending silver prices on deserves the effort

>>96345172
All the more reason to think the stopgag primaris kill teams won't survive.

>>96345190
It's a bit funny to say this in the same moment GW is releasing half-baked armies left and right.

>>96345179
>Again, if you're goal is to play painted miniatures and you're grown man with real-life stuff to do, my painting method is good.
using an appropriate contrast paint or lighter wash is just as easy and doesn't look like shit

>>96345190
You don't know the first thing about what does and doesn't sell, you fat smelly fuck!

>>96345195
what absurd assumption are you making? it's a perfectly standalone kit that slots perfectly inside a kitchen sink faction of other such kill teams
deathwatch is not being made into a full faction anytime soon

>>96345200
Shut the fuck up subhuman decalslopper

>>96345190
yeah the core should be 2k points of guard vs 2k points of traitor guard. Maybe then players can ally in an elite choice of space marines, no knights, daemons, super heavies or flyers

>>96344123 (OP)
Valrak quitting Youtube

>>96345215
Please let it be true

Chaos players, what model or kitbash do you use for a sorcerer in Terminator armour?

>>96345032
Terrain.

>>96344862
>>96344896
<3

>>96345215
Why? Does he explain? He earned enough to start live normal life and finally clear his basement of warhammer stuff?

>>96345221
the sorcerer in terminator armor

>>96345206
The assumption I'm making is that I don't see any future where those pdf kill teams that require you to buy 5 separate boxes to make will be kept around. Either because DW get shoved into imperial agents and will only get a minimal roster (ie: the blackstar, the updated vet kill team and the handful of vehicles they'll borrow from regular marines) or they'll get a proper codex with their own kits for extra squads.

But the point of the duscussion in the first place is that they should merge intercessors, tacticals and devastators into a squad very similar to the fortis kill team independently of what happens to deathwatch.

>>96345221
One of DG Blight Lord Terminators (the one which you like more), clear it from bodyhorror slop, add helm from rubric marines sorcerer. It's done.

>>96345171
>Before that you got AT MOST a single chestplate with a gorget for your sergeant. Idiot.
Nigger mk8 is literally just mk7 with a gorget and a slightly different helmet and backpack

>>96345237
>Either because DW get shoved into imperial agents and will only get a minimal roster (ie: the blackstar, the updated vet kill team and the handful of vehicles they'll borrow from regular marines)
that's what's happening, there's no other alternative

>>96345215
who cares?

>>96345215
>Obviously lost his insider source with how his track record for accurate leaks has fallen off
>Quits YouTube shortly thereafter
LMAO

>>96345192
>The plastic you're spending silver prices on deserves the effort

Says who? It's just plastic toys after all

>>96345250
>Nigger mk7 is literally just mk3 with an aquila and a slightly different helmet and backpack

my LGS still has a 2022 munitorum field manual book for sale

If I want a bunch of old SM helmets for my Shitmaris, this is the box to get?
Also, how much risk of this box being sold out in the months to come?

>>96345266
full price too right? mine has a 6th edition rulebook they've had since release and they still asking full price for it. I asked them if they'd do $20 and they said noty. still there of course.
saw recently a game shop owner youtube vid talking about stock they can't move and I think about that 6th edition rulebook still going for full price a decade later... FUCK YOU

>>96345250
>Nigger mk8 is literally just mk7 with
>a gorget
>slightly different helmet to fit into the gorget and superior ballistic augurs
>different backpack
>abdominal plate to cover the cables
>disks on the ankles
>extended vambraces
>tassets
>concave greaves
But, yeah, it's basically just Mk7.

>>96345269
clearance discount but not practically giving it away cheap

just throw it in the bin, nobody is gonna buy it

>>96345260
Not my fault you're a blind retard who needs to try and make facts sound ridiculous to cope with that

>>96345267
>If I want a bunch of old SM helmets for my Shitmaris, this is the box to get?
3d printing them will probably be way more cost effective. Red Warden has exact copies of all the helmets in the tactical, veteran and devastator squads for free on cults.
>Also, how much risk of this box being sold out in the months to come?
At the very least not until 11th next summer. But who knows if they'll just squat them, update them like they did with sternguard or terminators or just leave them festering for another edition with the worst rules known to man.

>>96345271
>But, yeah, it's basically just Mk7.
Yes
Also
>tassets
>Picture has none shown
Lol
Lmao

>>96345250
Not my fault you're a blind retard who needs to try and make facts sound ridiculous to cope with that

>>96345271
Many of those "differences" are missing in the models you could consider a Mk 8.

>>96345279
the picture also doesn't have one of the arms

>>96345285
Oh you're SEETHING seething
Sorry to have to be the one to tell you nobody liked your turtleneck armor

>>96345271
Damn mk8 really is just mk10 but worse

>>96344400
Upset no one responded to your post in the IK subreddit, so you cross post here?

>>96345290
more than likely they forked off in development as cawl toiled away on his ship

>>96345294
Nobody cares if somebody posts their models elsewhere

>>96345290
Helmet even has the kitty cat ears of mk10
Jes had been cooking it up for decades it seems

I forgot how much soul DoW had.

>>96345294
You have to go back.

>>96345289
>>96345290
>>96345294
I think you should stop browsing the internet if your only form of engagement with it is getting angry or suspicious or negative

>>96345300
Wish he had kept an eye on the kitchen because shitting all over the established stuff to make new things isn't great.

>>96345294
He got 130 updoots, that's more than you'll ever get considering you own no models

>>96345301
>252 points for 6 power armoured marines armed with 1 plasma gun, 1 power sword and a combi

>tfw hobby burnout has lasted for a few weeks now

i think i might have the depression, lads

>>96345301
Yeah I love that game. Gotta try the remaster at some point.
>pic
I love those old army pictures too. If I had less restraint i'd post stuff like that every thread.

>>96345316
get some sun, dimwit

>>96345287
Almost like 10,000 of armour mixing and GW standardizing things so bits can be mixed has had an effect.

>>96345289
Can you say that without crying next time?

>>96345317
The remaster is great for what it is. It's still the first game with all the expansions but the new lighting engine and upressed textures and screen resolution make it look way better.

>>96345312
There are characters in it too zoom zoom

>>96345301
normalise 1000 point armies

>>96345330
Normalise washing your ass!

>>96345312
Most of those points are into the command squad upgrades, my dude. The techmarine, the apothecary, the banner and their wargear.

>>96345301
And apothecary, techmarine, and standard bearer w/ special standard.

>>96345316
I got disillusioned with the game (and therefore the hobby aspect) for a few years when I realized GW balances the game in service of selling models, not balance. Once I started playing narrative games my enthusiasm for the hobby was revitalized.

>>96345308
Shut the fuck up retard

>>96345322
You're the only one crying here mk8troon

>>96345338
Why are you so mean!?

>>96345338
No thanks.

>>96345277
NTAYRT but I need gravis/bladeguard vet pads. do you know of any good 3d printers who sell em in bulk?

>>96345319
its been raining here quite a bit but i do go outside on sunny days

>>96345335
i could give that a try, ill see if anyone at my lgs is up for it

>>96345320
Why get so hung up on detail then?

>>96345341
They get weirdly defensive the moment someone suggests people liked space marines before primaris and don't appreciate squandering the things they like to replace them with something else.

>>96345215
>Valrak quitting Youtube
There's no way this isn't drama farming.

>>96345353
>we have info from GW on what's the difference between MkVII and VIII
>not all the models reflect this, for various reasons
>thus MkVIII is just a VII with a gorget and that's it

>>96345332
But that's already normal, anon.

>>96345250
no, there are more differences
not drastic, but more differences nonetheless
probably why it was essentially a prototype and not fully rolled out

we don't even get to see mk9

>>96345357
like that mr bones guy fundraising after burning his shanty house down

>>96345299
>>96345303
>>96345307
>>96345310
Aw, lookit the butthurt Reddit brigade.

>>96344403
nem dread legs are just too long

>>96345366
Autism.

>>96345377
Apology accepted.

>>96345366
Yes
And it looks like shit

>>96345369
Why did Cawl skip the number nine? Does he not know how to count?

>>96345371
You did it sport your very first troll post

>>96345383
Literally Elon Musk tier writing. It's not X as in 10. It's X as a letter. Which is fucking retarded when you consider the other marks use roman numerals aswell and X is roman numeral for 10.

>>96345383
He didn't want people to get confused with windows 99

>>96345391
why are you making up fanfiction to make yourself angry with lmao

>>96345277
Thanks, bro

>>96345383
he was producing the primaris armor around the same time mark 8 was in development, so he had no way of knowing they wouldnt do a mark 9

>>96345379
Your rivet counting fits more with /hhg/ than here.

>>96344680
I really wish GW could decide if tiling shields go on the chest or shoulder. and if it's right or left.
or am I proving myself a lorelet?

>>96345383
MkX isn't Mk10, it's just X. For "Xtreme!"

>>96345383
It's a Windows 10 situation. No, it's not the tenth iteration of the Windows series of operating systems. But it sounds nice.

how many times can a unit be forced to take battleshock tests?

as many as your abilities etc allow?
or is it a case of no matter how many abilities you have, they only test once per turn regardless of phase?

>>96344763
Huh?

>>96345407
>>96345412
>>96345391
everything i learn about primaris makes me glad I wasnt around during the rollout and just get to benefit from truscale marines
I like phobos armor

>>96345383
We do not know. Any information you do see is pure speculation and fanfiction.
Only option that is the most likely answer is just that GW named it mk10 because 10 is a nice round number.

>>96345383
Honestly, my head canon is 9 went through a full development just to discover some fatal flaw in the design that wasn't easy enough to remedy to the point developing a new mark was the easier option.

>>96344403
I'll be real with you anon, I thought you kept posting this as a joke

>>96345301
This roughly equates to what would now be a 1070p army
>Chaplain (Warlord)
>Apothecary
>Techmarine
>Intercessor Squad
>Intercessor Squad
>Sternguard Veterans
>Dreadnought
>Dreadnought
>Vindicator
>Whirlwind
If you add the extra Marine to each Intercessor squad it goes to 1235. The extra Sternguard Vet goes to 1335.

>>96344734
Any closeups of those nids? They look fantastic.

>>96345447
this list sucks ass compared to the original

>>96344781
That is the most abominable thing I've ever seen. And I've witnessed that shit IRL. Just cancer.

If you are going to use beach sand you need to bake it in the oven first you absolute fiend. But as others have said - just use texture paint. Don't use the GW ones other companies sell it for a fraction of the price. Buy some tufts and you're golden. Pic related.

>>96345435
That doesn't require to skip a full mark. Mk6 was supposed to be mk5 but mk5 was quickly scrambled during the heresy before beakies entered full production so they got pushed to mk6.

>>96345137
Newfag, MK 8 came out under a year before Primaris. They were literally the last firstborn loyalist kit released, and it shows. They look fantastic and represent the alternate timeline GW could have taken. The high collar is very cool.

>>96345460
it's the exact same thing

>>96345460
what would an equally competitive list look like in 10th

>>96345466
Not really. Intercessors don't have plasma cannons. Dreadnoughts suck massive donkey balls in 10th and should be half their points. A command squad isn't a sternguard squad and all the command squad characters do different things. You also missed the banner.

>>96345317
I am loving the remaster, highly recommend.

As oldmate said, game has soul. Plus you can put your chapter in. I added my marines.

>>96345465
>calling others newfags while not knowing we'd known what MK8 looked like for decades before that kit and people hated it that entire time
tourists coming in pretending MK8 was this darling design are adorable

>>96345460
The literal only difference is that Intercessors can't take Plasma Cannons, and instead will be taking a Grenade Launcher.

>>96345466
>>96345477
>tactical squads still exist
>take intercessors tho!!!!

>>96345476
I'm talking about my opinion retard. Mk 8 mogs any of the primaris armor variants.

>>96345475
>Plus you can put your chapter in.
>firstborn
No thanks

>>96345475
>Plus you can put your chapter in
You can?? How? I can get my main colours with the painter but not my symbol or any stripes. Beakies would be too much to ask for I suppose.

>>96345481
your opinion is dogshit and you're nothing but a contrarian

>>96345475
IRL version

New video games just don't have that level of comfy.

>>96345480
Tactical squads have been purposefully gimped out of usefulness and 10th's retarded power level points system doesn't let you take 6.

>>96345483
It is from like, 2004

>>96345484
You take whatever image you want, make the background a transparant layer using GIMP or photoshop, save it as .tga and then put them in the banners/icons folders in %appdata%/relicwhatever/dawn of war.

>>96345480
Tacticals only come in 10-mans now, and are costlier than 5-man Intercessors. Taking them in place of Ints would bring the list to 1190p minimum.

>>96345488
not my problem, see >>96345473
you didn't even try

>>96345488
Oh nooo you can only take 60 tacticals in 10th what a travesty

Found this while looking for images of my chapter.

>>96345465
These are the exact ones I talk about.
They look fucking awful.

>>96345481
Mk8 looks retarded and you can make better looking mk8 with buying regular intercessors and then slapping a mk7 helmet on them and shaving the knee fins.

>>96345032
Base rims.

>>96345504
Personally I like the high collar and the alternate chest, but sanding down intercessor chests is babies first conversion. I quite like the MK 8 pouches and symbols on the neck.

>>96345500
Orange kino. Checked.

>>96345504
>>96345501
>firstborn are ugly and primaris look cool
So all the grog whining about primaris kneepads was just larping and people actually like them over firstborn? what do you guys think about GK which also came out at the same time?

>>96345527
Gk conceptually look good but their sculpts suffer from their age

41% for two posterboys jfc

>>96345532
they have identical proportions and posing to DW vets because they were designed side by side. you quite literally a hypocrite.

>>96345549
You're delusional

>>96345539
Its just because those armies popular lists struggle with Knights. Knight nerfs are on the horizon.

>>96345497
The fuck has that do with ppm and paid wargear not existing and tacticals being locked to 10 man for no reason?

>>96345491
It won't show on other people's games, right?

>>96345555
Space Marines have access to Lancers and super oath and they're struggling into Knights?

>>96345383
he did mk9 but then he had a breakthrough in primaris geneseed and needed to start from scratch because the marines were now bigger, so he made the next armour modular just to be sure he could accommodate anything

>>96345549
grey knights are almost 6 years older and clearly a different scale
but hey, (you) tried

>>96345527
>what do you guys think about GK which also came out at the same time?
What? The grey knight range is like a decade older than the deathwatch vets.

>>96345549
ignoramus

>>96345565
>because the marines were now bigger
That is and has always been nonsense. Marines are not all the same size. There were huge firstborn and armour, by design, needs to be adaptable si the next guy can wear it after the previous owner died. And even if we ignore all that, look at terminators. They didn't need to make a whole separate armour just because they are now bigger.

>>96345567
they are 4 years apart but yea (GK as an army released in 5th in late 2011 and DW vets came out in 2016).

>>96345527
The only people who genuinely get angry about primaris or firstborn are nomodels
They usually come from /v/ thinking they'll be in like company or spamming it as Timmy's first bait

>>96345580
That's some massive cope.

>>96345573
well, cawl made his mk9 too fine tuned which made it hard to adjust it properly unlike other armors so he started from scratch

>>96345558
>Whine about only being able to take six squads
>Wtf why are you bringing up that nobody would ever bring 60 basic tacticals uhmmm what about war gear???

>>96345585
Then Cawl is a fucking idiot.

God I really wish primaris just ignored firstborn entirely

>>96345549
Why would you reveal yourself to be a lying tourist like this lmao

>>96345588
Six dudes per squad, not six squads, you illiterate fuck.

>>96345583
Feel free to post your models and prove me wrong
You literally have somebody posting his primaris mk8 conversions above you

>>96345590
I wish primaris never existed and they just updated the classic units like they did with CSM, Necrons, SoB, Eldar, Orks, Tyranids and Imperial Guard.

>>96345583
Then post your models

>>96345599
>I wish primaris never existed
Too bad.

>>96345599
They look better

>>96345561
I am unsure, I think it does though. They are tiny tiny files.

>>96345566
>>96345572
>>96345567
>>96345578
>>96345592
Huh. I thought they came out at the same time. I was wrong yea

>>96345599
>just updated the classic units like
>SOB
>NIDS
LOL
LMAO
KEK
HAHAHA

>>96345539
starter armies are played by newer, worse players
winrates dont mean much, except with like DG becuase they've been in so many starter sets

>>96345465
>The high collar is very cool.
No, mk7 is best armor

>>96345617
How is that wrong?

>>96345562
God forbid someone doesn't wanna play the Ultracircus character list.

>>96345617
Didnt nids come out in the 80s and Sob in 1994? SoB codex was in 1997

>>96345622
He's got a bad case of schizoseethe

>>96345618
If this was the case SM would have really really high usage (reflecting newbies) but the usage rates are very low too.

>>96345644
are you dumb?

>>96345622
The "classic" units in both armies are either a minority or have such a drastic redesign that they are something entirely new.
For SOB you'd have an easier time picking out what is an update over the originals than the new innovations for the faction.
OH and I forgot orks snaggas.

>>96345648
The 41% winrate figure came from Meta Mondays, and that showed Marines at 42 players at top events
DG had 59, Knights47, CK 44, WE 41, a lot of armies in the 35-40 margins like Necrons& Eldar, and a lot of armies in the low 30's.

Space Marines at tournaments are arguably underrepresented for what they should be AND are doing badly on top of that.

>>96345656
What redesign did:
>SoB squad
>retributors
>doninions
>zephyrim/seraphim
>rhinos
>immolators
>exorcits
get? I'll give you repentia even though I shouldn't.
What redesign did:
>termagaunts
>homragaunts
>genestealers
>lictors
>ravenors
get?
>snaggas
Snaggas don't replace or displace any classic unit like primaris do. They are just an addition.

it should be expected that tournaments have weird distributions reflecting temporary power levels. sweatlords are not gw's core customer base.

>>96345032
Battleline troops.

>>96344560
Why are you so hateful?

>>96345618
>starter armies are played by newer, worse players
>winrates dont mean much
Spoken like a true nogames. We've been able to filter by elo for years, but you guys keep outing yourselves by repeating this over and over again.

>>96345032
Terrain, I need an excuse to continue painting this temple.

>>96345686
Don't reply to the 8 hours old schizopost, please.

>>96345690
a player has an Elo score
a faction does not

Why don't they have legends rules?

>>96345697
>a player has an Elo score
>a faction does not
And he can't read and comprehend basic information. I'm shocked...

>>96345697
If SM and Orks were powerful armies let down by hordes of noobs, you'd see a high x-0 and x-1 count. But that isn't the case, implying that even the strongest Marine players are struggling.

>>96345686
You're a subhuman redditor deserving nothing but abuse and scorn

>>96344139
Orks vs blood angels. Lost by 9 points because of challenger cards. Beast boyz and mephiston slugged it out in the middle for 2 rounds.

>>96345700
GW hates AdMech and are jealous that the FW team does everything they do, but better.

>>96345700
The bean counters call the shots and want clear and rigid distinctions between their game systems so that they can more easily track sales even at the expense of lost sales from people who would normally spend on both systems.

>>96345716
fair. I just mean that winrate doesnt tell the whole story

>>96345716
Let me guess, amost all x-0 and x-1 are Death guard and Chaos knights?

>>96345735
There are a few Sangspam lists, Abbadon Guncastles, Oops All Wraiths and the odd Drukhari player who took all haywire and shot half the DG/IK/CK off the board turn 1

>>96345750
Imagine being a waacfag that bought a whole DG army and copied a netlist thinkin it will be an easy win just to get shot off the board by dark eldar in your first game.

>>96344517
How high are your painting standards?

>>96345722
Dante deep in the action

>>96345700
Because they want you to play Horus Heresy.

>>96345767
I'd be more inclined to play horus heresy if I could use my 40k army instead of buying a whole new army from scratch.

>>96345054
A mix of tacticals and devastators? Anon, do you think the heavy weapon guy in the old tactical squad was a "mixed in devastator?" Did you think a 10 man devastator squad with 5 bolter guys had mixed in tacticals? How fucked have the aspect squads made people's brains.

Yes, fucking obviously a primaris tactical equivalent would have heavy and special weapon options for a couple of the troopers. What else would it fucking look like? Literally what else could it look like?

>Evens
I paint the Visarch
>Odds
I paint the Yncarne

>>96345779
Subhuman response

>>96345694
Lol, painting this terrain further is a complete waste of time. It's terrain, it doesn't need any efforts. Just basic paint and wash.

You terrain is already painted much more than enough.

You'd better paint something that has value.

>>96345013
75% sure Orks are the starter faction for 11th which means they've already written the codex. Most we can expect in the meantime are some pity point drops.

>>96345788
I have no idea what you mean. I'm baffled by the original question of "do you think a primaris squad that has options instead of being all the same weapons would have weapon options."

>>96345779
That's not what I mean. A classic tactical is 5 to 10 dudes with either one special and one heavy or two specials depending on the edition. A classic devastator is 5 to 10 dudes with a max of 4 heavies. What I'm suggesting is a unit that combines both, keeping the OC/Line or whatever objective capping mechanic they use in the future for their role as tacticals but options for 2 specials or 2 heavies per 5 models like skitarii, for example. That way you can have:
>5 man barebones squad with boltguns
>5 man with two specials or two heavies
>10 mean with four specials or four heavies
I say this because intercessors are boring and under a system with paid wargear they don't need to be a separate squad, just a barebones tactical that's cheaper simply because they didn't take the guns and because all the primaris weapon squads render devastators completely redundant. This way you can keep a flexible and interesting troop choice, keep the devastator guns in use and have a better blanced roster overall.

>>96345815
Orks vs Crimson Fists would be a fun throwback

>>96345823
I used to hate how bland intercessors are but 20 S5 AP -1 shots from five guys with an assault profile makes my pp the big pp

>>96345781
Update: After 10 minutes, half of which was prep, I had realized why this model fucking sucks to paint. Holy shit.

>>96345419
If the ability doesn't say something like "you don't have to take another battleshock test this phase" like in csm dread talons then it's as many times are you have instances of it

>>96345823
Close enough. Welcome back Tyrant's Legion Cohort.

>>96345865
Speaking of Tyrant's Legion. I assume the units in that book are just an add-on to the Codex: Space Marines, right?

>>96345823
I see. I guess that's possible but it depends on the sprue. You're saying a 5 man kit needs to have 5 bolters, two of every special option, and two of every heavy option, because the world we live in says every option the squad has needs to be in the box. And then every body needs to support being bolter, special, or heavy, with some puzzling over how one guy in the box could just do bolter or heavy, or bolter or special.

And also, I don't think line troops are the big sellers so I don't think they're motivated to do this over just boxing the existing primaris with the new special character and a tank every 2 months for the rest of time.

>>96345874
It's its own armylist. Like a separate faction. Unless something in here tells you to look at the space marines list, you can't use anything else. Like the transports.

>>96345539
Orks are struggling for a few reasons:
>still suffering from the dakka nerfs
>really weak into DG
>the ca25 deck punishes scoring high early game, which is how Orks used to succeed

>>96345727
Makes me wonder what is going to happen to the bananas and sos.
GW barely supports them as is. Are they going to do a complete revamp of the custodes in HH so there is now two under-developed armies with intentionally different weapons?
Sisters will get a different, token squad box in HH and then just forgotten about for another decade?

>>96345896
I think Bananabois will get rolled into Agents with a few dedicated detachments

>>96345881
>You're saying a 5 man kit needs to have 5 bolters, two of every special option, and two of every heavy option
The options would probably be quite limited. A plasma, a flamer, a melta, a missile launcher and a heavy bolter. Doesn't seem too far fetched. The old tactical squad kit had one of each special, one of each combi and a missile launcher so there's space. Otherwise look at the amount of guns plague marines get in the kit.
>And then every body needs to support being bolter, special, or heavy, with some puzzling over how one guy in the box could just do bolter or heavy, or bolter or special.
That's the easiest part. Every space marine, both firstborn and primaris, already works like that.
>And also, I don't think line troops are the big sellers so I don't think they're motivated to do this over just boxing the existing primaris with the new special character and a tank every 2 months for the rest of time.
I'm not following you. Troops sell well when they are interesting and have decent rules and GW makes more money off of them because you usually want more since they are battleline. Also if we're being scummy, everyone already has a buttload of intercessors so this is an opportunity to sell them even more kits to upgrade their intercessors to tacticals.

>>96345789
Except I got so many more pieces and I can always work more on some more details. I also need to give an oil wash to darken stuff.

>>96345865
>Astral Claws dreadnoughts plastered all over the rulebook
>can't even take dreadnoughts
Bravo Forgeworld.

>>96345881
Not op but tactical marines were the single best selling sprue kit they had for the longest time. If intercessors aren't selling gangbusters then I can promise you they'll be made to be more enticing because selling troops is where the money is.

>>96345928
Meant to reply to this >>96345882

>>96345717
Yea of course you have never been to reddit ever right?

>>96345928
>>96345931
The Legion armylist is mainly focused around using auxilia with a couple of marine squads as support. You can still play Astral Claws with the normal space marine armylist since they have their own chapter tactics.

>>96345930
Realistically, Primaris units can't sell as good as tactical sold back then, percentage wise.
Back then you had tactical, devastors and assault squads.
Today you have a single box for each type of special weapon and lots of other random troop types. So instead of buying 4 boxes of tacticals, someone would buy one heavy, normal intercessors, plasma intercessors and flamer intercessors.

It's doubtful that any of those actually outsells the tactical squad, but all combined actually might.
But for GWs production this might actually be beneficial because they can make more sets at the same time

>Space Marine RepEx gonna get nerfed for BT's sins
I HATE IT

>>96345896
horus heresy makes an all new custodians plastic range including vehicles and gets back the one existing sisters of silence kit, as well as expanding them with more units

40k keeps the custodian kits it has and makes one sisters of silence kit as a kill team
ideally the 40k stuff would all go on imperial agents, together with grey knights, but for now they sell enough as a standalone things so they keep their half assed army range in a codex you have to buy separately

>>96345945
I've always said that the argument for the aspect warrior style squads selling more never made any sense. Since realistically people don't magnetize infantry, a devastator style squad is way more efficient for GW. They just make a basic squad, a squad with all the heavy weapons and the players will need to buy extras of the basic squad to glue the spare weapons to have all the options. GW only needs to design, produce and store 2 kits. With the primaris squads they need to design, produce and store 12 kits to get the same amount of sales.

>>96344517
>I like orks but having an ork army seems daunting.
you could always go a lower model count option like a dread mob or kult of speed

Sovl is bad to mto

>>96345776
Too bad.

I think current 40k would improve with standardized base sizes.

>>96345988
they added that to the app

>>96345991
They added the "current" base size to the app. Those aren't standardized.

>>96345982
>EC players had to make do with this for decades
No wonder they were so whiny.

>>96345823
Again though isn't this just the Deathwatch Veterans unit from the Agents Codex? They can take up to 4 heavy weapons in a 10 man squad, plus a bunch of wargear besides. And their bolters have underbarrel flamers. You can also just build them with snipers, shotguns or regular bolters.

>>96345994
>>96345988
>model updates
>army invalid
fuck off

>>96345994
how would you even approach doing this across all armies

>>96346002
literally just glue the smaller base onto the larger one if you're assmad about it. let the bareness of the bottom "correct" base stand as your protest.

>>96345914
I said it's possible and named the challenges, I'm not super interested in going point by point.

But I'm not incredibly familiar, so I will ask. What do you mean every primaris kit already works like that? Every primaris kit has arms that could accept any bolt gun or any of the primaris specialty guns? I don't think that's true. To get a dynamic pose that works for a bolter and a heavy bolter would usually mean only one body in the kit can fit that specific bolter. Which, to be clear, is not me saying "this is impossible!!!" I'm just pointing out the challenges.

And also, what you want just actually isn't a factor. I think they're quite happy selling the simplest possible data sheets to keep milling new players in. You might be bored of intercessors, but for existing players I'm pretty sure they're happy trying to make you buy more intercessors with the new model bundles, since new players are happy with the deal they're getting.

>>96345999
Not quite. The fortis kill team is the closest thing and it's a bit of a mess. That kill team just says "start with 10 guys and you can swap 0-4 of each gun or 0-2 of the missiles". I'm thinking of something closer to skitarii if they could get multiples of the same gun. 5-10dudes, 2 per 5 can swap their bolter for either a heavy or a special.

>>96346008
>how would you even approach doing this across all armies
I'm not that anon, but the answer I have is simple
the size that gets standardised should be the one of the unit as a whole, not of the individual models, so you don't need to change individual model bases at all and you simply have standardised movement trays and adjust unit sizes accordingly so units are made up of a few trays of the same sizes

What do they even want?

>>96346016
>>96346020
Nice pictures anon, how do they make you feel tho?

>>96345994
What do you mean standardized?

>>96346018
>What do you mean every primaris kit already works like that?
Every space marine, both firstborn and primaris, has the same type of chestpiece. Same width, same flat arm joints. That means any pair of arms can fit any body no matter the kit. You can glue hellblaster guns on intercessor bodies or spare devastator guns on tactical bodies.

>>96346019
Ah, I see. GW has been really pro schizo loadout in 10th so I find it unlikely. An example is traitor guardsmen can't take 3 sniper rifles anymore. You can't include any option more than twice. And that kind of design has been spread throughout the whole game this edition.

>>96345955
>as well as expanding them with more units
>and makes one sisters of silence kit as a kill team
You seem to have a mistaken impression the SoS are getting anything at all?
Only AC are getting new kits, the sisters are just going to remain a squad and the dildoe tank that you ally into a marine force.
Same in 40k, they'll remain just the one box and rhino so AC has their cheap chaff.

>>96346027
To find whoever painted over the lightnings drawings on their armours while they slept

>>96346008
>>96346031
Same way it used to be in 40k or WHFB or MESBG. Normal human sized models go on 25mm. Bigger ones that have their feet overhanging the small infantry bases go on 32mm. Things the size of terminators go on 40mm. Dreads go on 60mm. The last few years they've assigned base sizes almost at random sometimes.

>>96346037
It's mostly a limitation of what's on the sprues but space marines being mostly sprues of 5 dudes duplicated in a kit I think it'd be possible.

>>96346042
>Only AC are getting new kits
I wasn't saying immediately, but the horus heresy is preparing some paired releases for their imperials-only and heretic-only waves
custodes are released practically together with darkmek
sisters will be released paired against ruinstorm demons

a striped hawk moth told me last month

>>96346052
It's 100% possible but it just doesn't seem like something modern GW would do.

>>96346008
Why the fuck do you even want "standarized" base sizes?

>>96346057
Perhaps the most likely thing would be 2 specials or heavies but no duplicates per 5. So you could have a squad of 5 with a plasma and a melta but not two plasmas or meltas and a asquad of 10 with 2 plasmas, 2 meltas but not 4 of any of them.

>>96346049
But that rule holds 90% of the time anyway. Only weird thing in Orks is the tankbusta nob being on a 40 instead of a 32. What were you thinking of

>>96346063
Looks better.

>>96346027
To be taken seriously.

>>96346074
Well, they aren't doing a good job of it.

>>96346072
Eldar are a mess. Most are 28mm but you have farseers on 25, warlocks on 32 and phoenix lords at 50. All these models are the same size. They should have the same base size like they did before.
IG you have your basic squads in 25mm but your elites and command squads at 28mm for no reason. Again, these models are the same size, they aren't bigger. They don't need bigger bases.
Space marines have their basic squads at 32mm but seemingly at random you'll have squads at 40mm despite not being in terminator or gravis armour. You'll have all your hq at 40mm despite not being in terminator or gravis armour, except the terminator captian who's in a 50mm for no reason. Then you have a bunch of characters in 60mm bases despite being the exact same size as an intercessor. Double the base size for no fucking reason.
Those are just some examples.

>>96346073
Yknow at first I thought you meant it in a more "using older, smaller base sized means hiding units is slightly easier by clustering them closer together" competitive WAAC bitter autism way but now I am genuinely confused
I don't get how that image looks different from 40k

>>96346049
sisters being 32mm while space marine scouts are 28mm looks dumb to me. choosing based on armour type in the lore rather than the size of the people is stupid.

Has anyone ever used Gothic Sector terrain? They have the DoW Eldar structures but looking at pictures they seems huge and kinda out of place for most placemats

>>96346093
Because of this >>96346089
If you look at the pic you'll see each unit has a base size standardized to the unit type. Power armour goes on 32, terminator on 40mm, regular humans on 25. No matter if they are elite or troops, hq or chaff. They get the base size of their model size, not their percieved importance.

>>96345995
>make do
>completely mogs the new EC models

>>96345995
I will say that the new noise marines are one of the best kits GW has ever put out. Im planning on painting some even though I don't play EC.

>>96345486
i like your dudes

>>96345062
Cawl will alloy anything that will earn him more imperial credits.

>>96346104
>They get the base size of their model size
they don't though.

>>96346089
because base size is not just relative to the size of the model but also the rank and pose.

>>96346124
Yeah I'm saying it shouldn't be.

>>96345054
It's possible.
In Kill Team every team is allowed to take 1-2 special weapons and 1-2 heavy weapons. So basically every team in kill team is like good old tactical squad.

And we all know that kill team is a testing ground for big 40k.

But what really matters is that it will obviously make people buy this box. That's the most important thing.

Is there no comfier feeling than sitting at your paint station knowing you've got the entire day off to work on /yourdudes/?

>>96346133
I hate broccoli, even the stench of it is revolting

>>96346133
Nice broccoli

>>96345032
I am not a good painter, but i do love my kitbashed dudes:
Sorcerer, Master of Possession and Master of Executions.

>>96345032
Ideas for next collage:
1) Transport
2) 2+ Save Infantry
3) Transport
4) Conversions

>>96346129
You're saying something dumb then.

>>96346170
Nta but what subjects have already been done? Am newfag.

Funny how the new combat patrols for Hh mog 40K ones

>>96346170
I don't know :ˆ)

>>96346187
Yeah pretty hilarious.

>>96346149
if you overcook it

>>96346196
Yeah if you steam it and add some seasoning its great in chicken and rice

>>96346207
I think I am going to be sick

What is the size of that thing? What is the name of that thing? What i can proxy in CSM army with it?

>>96346217
You probably will get sick if you're eating like your average American.

>>96346149
I eat so much broccoli even my farts smell like it. broccoli farts mmmmm

Sang Guard +10 per 3
Biovores -5
Wraiths +15 per 3
Technomancer +10
Raveners +10
Archons +5
Beastmaster +10
Talos +5
Cronos +5

A bunch of non UM named characters down by a lot
Infiltrators down 10
Redemptor down 10
Vindicator up 5
Rep Ex up 15
Ballistus up 10

Atropos & lancer +45
Abominanylt &Despoiler +30
Canis +50
Other Big Knights +20
Dogs and armigers +15

>>96344361
You could do that but lego is even more expensive

>>96346245
Lol samesies

>>96346245
>>96346254
Death Guard players.

>>96344403
Clean your camera

>>96346240
Hellbrutes are some of the most retarded CSM units ever made.

Any reason not to use MK6 marines as regular intercessors? Is it really that much of a big deal as they're slightly smaller, even when put on the same 32mm base?

>>96344467
Because they're cheaper to collect than other armies so GW makes them bad

>>96346240
Still stupid how GW wants to replace the boxnought with something the size of a leviathan.

>>96346240
Could you please do the same comparison but with a Demon Prince, Vashtorr and Forgefiend please ? :3

We need a new Badab War. Except with someone less whiny and more competent leading the secessionists this time around.

>>96346251
>Sang Guard
Needed. Their stats are fine but their synergies are too strong.
>Biovores
Needed
>Wraiths
Needed
>Technomancer
Not needed
>Raveners
I guess.
>Archons
Lmao
>Beastmaster
Not needed
>Talos/Cronos
Needed

>Infiltrators
Not needed. Theyre already really good.
>Redemptor
Im convinced GW just wants people to buy the fugly
>Vindicator
Ok
>Repulsor Executioner
Needed
>Ballistus
Needed

Dont have knights in my meta.

>>96346279
There would be no problem. Collecting beakies is a patrician choice.

>>96346244
You're famished, you enter a room with a bowl full of steamed broc and a plate with a fresh Mcdouble and a large fry next to it. What do you pick because I know what I am devouring.

>>96344467
>melee guys
>into uhoh stinky
>Termies lose 1v1 to dst
I wonder why

>>96346283
Nobody cares for boxes

>>96346287
minicompare.info

>>96346251
Do these tiny 5/10 points nerfs/buffs matter at all? A busted unit will still be busted at +10 points.

>>96346295
I do. And that's still no reason to do it. There's been multiple weight classes for walkers in the game for decades.

Are there any cool feats attributed to Typhus specifically? Something he's done to make people go "damn what a badass"?

>>96346293
Part of eating healthy is not being famished you doofus. Besides theres nothing stopping you from eating some broccoli along with the fries and burg.

>>96346300
When you run 3 of a unit a 10 point hike is usually enough to make you consider swapping one out for an alternative.
Sometimes the purpose is not necessarily to nerf the unit into unusability but to weaken the Army overall by forcing them to run one fewer unit or give up an enhancement to keep playing the same way. A lot of little plus fives across all the popular units can equate to one fewer activations per turn which can matter a lot.

>>96346316
turned an entire legion to nurgle

>>96346316
I've seen him kill himself with his psychic abilities in three seperate games. That was pretty cool.

>>96346300
They do. People will tailor their list as close to the points limit as possible. 10 points is enough to force someone to reorganize their entire roster because the units they had no longer fit.

>>96346291
It seems like a great way of collecting marines for 40k, except 40k is gay and you can't use Rhinos to carry around intercessors. I'm trying to get my cousin into 40k but the discount boxes aren't that good.

>>96346251
thanks anon!

>>96346333
Ive seen someone's Mephiston kill himself with an overcharged plasma pistol attack

>>96346316
He once fought Supreme Grand Master Azrael of the Dark Angels and didn't die within seconds.

>>96346251
waiting very much CSM changes

>>96346342
Horus Heresy lets you use rhinos

>>96346342
I'm hoping they do lift the transport restrictions on rhinos ans razorbacks. Both are great transports right now, there's just nothing good that can jump inside at the moment except certain builds of devastators.

>>96346251
Where is this from?

>>96346251
canis rex rugged

>>96346089
Why is that a problem

>>96346378
I like uniformity and it disincentivizes modlels becoming mini dioramas instead of sensible game pieces.