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Anonymous No.96355542 >>96355560 >>96355608 >>96355659 >>96355783 >>96355803 >>96355860 >>96355928 >>96356023 >>96356044 >>96358038 >>96358115 >>96358866 >>96358942 >>96359491 >>96361302 >>96361824 >>96362224 >>96362437 >>96363799 >>96365894 >>96366171 >>96371844 >>96372560 >>96372576 >>96373790 >>96382731 >>96392190 >>96408144 >>96416899 >>96422899 >>96422905 >>96438371 >>96440134 >>96461147 >>96482047 >>96488019
Tieflings Redesign Thread
At my wits end with the torrential downpour of baby blue femboy tieflings in my games. To heal the world I made a table to create fucked up tieflings. Roll and let me know what you get. tiefling hate thread otherwise
Anonymous No.96355560 >>96355572 >>96355719 >>96356044 >>96358866 >>96361017 >>96362224 >>96362342 >>96362437 >>96362872 >>96364887 >>96365986 >>96366010 >>96372390 >>96391138 >>96422899 >>96461235
>>96355542 (OP)
Anonymous No.96355572 >>96355577 >>96355719 >>96356044 >>96358866 >>96361017 >>96362437 >>96365986 >>96391138 >>96422899 >>96461235
>>96355560
Anonymous No.96355577 >>96355719 >>96356044 >>96358866 >>96361017 >>96362437 >>96365986 >>96391138 >>96422899 >>96461235
>>96355572
Anonymous No.96355585 >>96358683
____ ___ _____ ___ _______ ___?
Anonymous No.96355608 >>96358935 >>96378790 >>96408447 >>96410236
>>96355542 (OP)
>"I hate X thing from Y game!"
>"I'm not going to play literally anything other than Y game though!"

You brought this on yourself, stop complaining.
Anonymous No.96355659 >>96355706 >>96358935 >>96378790 >>96408447
>>96355542 (OP)
>Waah, people are playing thing they like in a way that doesn't affect me
>Waah, they're having fun

How many "baby blue femboy tieflings" have you actually played with?
Anonymous No.96355706
>>96355659
enough
Anonymous No.96355719 >>96355731 >>96358935 >>96378790 >>96378848
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
>i hate baby blue femboy tieflings
>they should be playing my fetish tieflings instead
Anonymous No.96355729 >>96355845 >>96362835 >>96377058 >>96443541
This is a lot of problems for a regular stat block but pretty cool. Got 2, 7, 3, 8, 3 then 8, 20, 12, 17, 12.
Looks like I'm a hunchbacked, long-toed, hedgehog spine covered idiot that walks funny
Anonymous No.96355731
>>96355719
yes
Anonymous No.96355783
>>96355542 (OP)
>my games
Which games are those?
Anonymous No.96355786 >>96362835 >>96377058
1, 7, 2, 6, 6 and 8, 7, 17, 1, 15
I got loose teeth, spider foot, giraffe neck, and shitty legs
Anonymous No.96355803
>>96355542 (OP)
If these are your games, have you tried filtering your players better? Or are you too much of a bitch to actually tell people "no"?

Don't answer that. We already know.
Anonymous No.96355845
>>96355729
I'd be more concerned if I saw a hunchbacked, long-toed hedgehog spine covered idiot that walked in a confident swagger.
Anonymous No.96355860
>>96355542 (OP)
these would work better as a list of curses
Anonymous No.96355892 >>96355910 >>96362835 >>96377058
8,2;5,1;1,18;4,2;2,12
A sometimes invisible, potbellied toothless asthmatic with a crab claw. More of a Hieronymous Bosch tiefling than your classic demon.
Anonymous No.96355910 >>96356487
>>96355892
>potbellied toothless asthmatic
thats just my uncle
Anonymous No.96355928
>>96355542 (OP)
As for myself the tieflings in my setting are a race of invariably aristocratic seven and a half foot tall albinos with oblong skulls who smoke black tar heroin.
Anonymous No.96356023
>>96355542 (OP)
>in my games
Who's playing them op? Is it you? Be honest now...
Anonymous No.96356044 >>96356119 >>96481279
>>96355542 (OP)
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
You do know these kinds of tiefling tables have existed since their birth right? You making this pile of seethe at people having fun the wrong way changes nothing
Anonymous No.96356119 >>96358008 >>96372560
>>96356044
paizo tried so hard through whole pf1e to push for scary monster tieflings but each time community just ignored it lol
Anonymous No.96356487
>>96355910
Anonymous No.96356525 >>96357123 >>96372560
Here's what Tieflings used to look like before they became femboys with horns. Especially when you look into the 2e planescape tieflings.
Anonymous No.96357123 >>96357306
>>96356525
tieflings started with planescape, I prefer the 2e design *actually I prefer most things 2e*
Anonymous No.96357306 >>96357478
>>96357123
look like final fantasy art
Anonymous No.96357339 >>96358008
This is your reminder that

>You should be ugly.. ON PURPOSE! It's the only MORAL thing!!!!

isn't new8
Anonymous No.96357478 >>96472131
>>96357306
Anonymous No.96358008 >>96360295
>>96356119
>>96357339
I think ultimately people don't like playing truly ugly things unless that's the gimmick of the setting or system
Anonymous No.96358038
>>96355542 (OP)
Traditional games?
Anonymous No.96358115 >>96358131
>>96355542 (OP)
How ya doin' Crypto, Dessous still fondly remembers you tricking the fuck ass wildhunt werewolf guy thing into drinking the wolfsbane and powdered silver juice.
Anonymous No.96358131
>>96358115
Yo! brother good to hear you are still kicking have not had the chance to talk in a while. Whats funny is that was prob one of my first "real" longterm games. Always gonna have good memories about it no matter how much of a mary sue I made. Reach out on discord we gotta catch up.
Anonymous No.96358683
>>96355585
Anonymous No.96358866
>>96355542 (OP)
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
What a strange idea.
Anonymous No.96358935 >>96358951 >>96359049 >>96359122 >>96363109
>>96355608
>>96355659
>>96355719
LGBTiefling Defense Force has landed
Anonymous No.96358942 >>96360926
>>96355542 (OP)
That's nice good work OP, and effort is always worth praise.

With that said, consider that your efforts are only made to spite WotC's contradictory game design, wherein races are being contraproductively removed and being made less distinct, in an environment where everybody is a theatre kid that only wants to play freakshit and all the published modules have near exclusively human NPCs.

When an Elf, a Halfling, a Duergar and red-skinned horned man walk into a village in Barovia, the human villagers should take out the torches and pitchforks, but that'd be racist, so instead we live with massive cognitive dissonance. Your rules are only fit for a social atmosphere / setting / system where deformity is shunned in the first place and where characters are allowed to be mechanically distinct.

Long story short, have you tried not playing D&D?
Anonymous No.96358951 >>96378790
>>96358935
>(You): "I hate X thing!"
>(Everyone Else): "Maybe you shouldn't play product designed for X thing."
>(You): "Noooo! I'd rather keep deliberately exposing myself to X thing and whining about how it's your fault!"

You know what. I take it back. Keep playing D&D. It was designed for retards. You are right where you belong with the rest of your kid. Retarded faggot.
Anonymous No.96359049 >>96378790
>>96358935
Only one of those is defending tiefling faggotry. The other two are calling you an even bigger faggot than the faggotry you're complaining about. You're the equivalent of someone jamming his dick in a pencil sharpener, then complaining that the only reason people would ever tell you to stop jamming your dick into a pencil sharpener is because they must enjoy doing it too.

No, sometimes people call you stupid because you make bad decisions that make you look stupid. Anyone willingly playing D&D in 2025, when the game has gone out of its way to pander to the stupidest people on the planet, is going to look like one of those stupid people. Play something better. Be better.
Anonymous No.96359099
This is cool, but I'm shallow and generally don't want to play uggos.
Anonymous No.96359122 >>96363081
>>96358935
The LGBTiefling players really aren't faring much better. In truth what OP made is exactly what they want, except that in their twisted minds, deformity makes one inherently more special, rather than just making their life more difficult. So they would want their tiefling table to have butterfly wings, and a red backlight aura, and a cool tribal tattoo, and cat eyes, and shark teeth, and a smell of sulfur (but not rotten eggs), and a quirky imp familiar, and a snake tongue that lets them talk to snakes, and... and all of things are not really something bad.

But WotC in its sheer and utter incompetence is still unable to pander to these people, and shoots itself in the foot by erasing mechanical racial differences, because its somehow even worse at splitting the hairs of social justice than /pol/, and rather would not deal with this troublesome nonsensical faggot shit at all. When pressed to try doing something of the sort, they come up with a fucking combat wheelchair, because it's just inconceivable that there could be a conceptual difference between being a cripple and being a sickass demon guy.

Is it hypocritical of freakshit players to want this? Yes. Is WotC delivering it? No. And so they make endless homebrews and special tables and custom settings when all they ever needed to do was to just play a system that's not D&D, which is tuned towards player expression, and not killing 1456874687 goblins in 6468468 caves.
Anonymous No.96359491 >>96359567 >>96363873
>>96355542 (OP)
Impressive work OP! Have you considered doing a similar table for Aasimar? What about Genasi?
Anonymous No.96359567
>>96359491
Honestly didn't even think about doing a divine lineage one. Its a great idea though. Like how vile darkness had exalted deeds
Anonymous No.96360295 >>96360654 >>96361073
>>96358008
That's why rolling is better than point buy and picking a template, people will play the hand they're given and be better for it, but they wouldn't choose it.
Anonymous No.96360654
>>96360295
true
Anonymous No.96360926
>>96358942
well said anon
Anonymous No.96361017 >>96361262
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
I love these! Thanks!
I have nothing against twinks at my table but rolling disgusting demons? I'm all for it. Who cares if there already are tables? Now there are more. These troons shitting on your pure creative autistic rage don't know what's fun.
Anonymous No.96361073 >>96362612
>>96360295
I've never really found this to be true for the groups I've played with. Yeah, people will play what they roll, but rarely be better for it. Its not exactly rare for people to retire a character early or get them killed because they aren't fun or just boring to play.
Anonymous No.96361262
>>96361017
thanks, hope you make something fun with it
Anonymous No.96361302 >>96361326 >>96361420
>>96355542 (OP)
>To heal the world I made a table to create fucked up tieflings.
Were you aware of the preexisting tiefling trait tables from Planescape
Anonymous No.96361326
>>96361302
I had a vague memory of it but only after someone else mentioned it to me while I started this
Anonymous No.96361420
>>96361302
They weren't nearly as bad as some of these iirc.
I'm gonna save these tables probably to repurpose them for curses and shit.
Anonymous No.96361824 >>96363518
>>96355542 (OP)
All Tieflings should have big sloppy titties.
Anonymous No.96362224 >>96362238 >>96362399
Rolled 7, 3, 6, 5, 2, 8 = 31 (6d8)

>>96355542 (OP)
Tieflings aren't made to be terrible abominations, you know.
And original tiefling mutations exist still, which can make them abominable after all.
But I welcome your inspiration.
>>96355560
Let's see what parts are affected first.
Anonymous No.96362238 >>96362399
Rolled 14, 11, 19, 7, 5, 12, 3, 5 = 76 (8d20)

>>96362224
Good, nothing hurts my pretty face. And hands.
Let's see how bad everything else hurts.
Anonymous No.96362342 >>96362399 >>96362835 >>96364686 >>96377058
>>96355560
Chest: on my chest are the symbols of chaos and dire insults to your mother(that shift to suit the viewers mother tongue)
Skin: My skin is covered in bruises, not related at all to the reactions of the people I meet. They also look like faces. Sorta.
Stomach: Looks like I'm related to Nurgle. Much like a lot of things on this list. Yuck.
Legs: Left one is long and thin. Starting to see a pattern.
Feet: Cracked nails are weak and brittle, leaving toes hurting.
Soul: I feel mildly angry about living like this.

Thanks, I hate it.
Anonymous No.96362399 >>96362480
>>96362224
>>96362238
>>96362342
dude your life sucks, imagine seeing that thing try to walk into town and talk at the bar. You are disgusting
Anonymous No.96362437
>>96355542 (OP)
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
Not gonna roll but some of these are inspired

>Rose thorns sprout from the flesh around your heart, growing when you feel love
>right arm attempts to strangle you every night when you sleep
>never healing wound where your grandfather was stabbed
Anonymous No.96362480 >>96362507
>>96362399
How dare you, I'll burn your house tonigh!
Anonymous No.96362507
>>96362480
see what did I tell you tieflings only make up 13% of the population but commit 50% of the infernal crime.
Anonymous No.96362612
>>96361073
Random generation is a hard balance to strike and not just for roll tables but for so many different computer applications. On one hand you have to provide enough variety to stay interesting again and again without the player growing bore, on the other hand you also need to reign in the random chance enough so that the game isn't ruined. Minecraft's world gen for example is extremely complicated because of this.
I think if I were to run something with this table I'd make it so that you only roll if a stat is less than 9 or higher than 12, or just cap it to 2 or 3 deformities but optionally more if you want a stat boost.
Anonymous No.96362835
>>96355729
>>96355786
>>96355892
>>96362342
Need to get a drawfag from other thread in here
Anonymous No.96362872 >>96362904 >>96363014
Rolled 4, 4, 1, 6, 3, 4, 3, 2, 5, 1, 5, 2, 5, 6, 4, 3, 2, 4 = 64 (18d6)

>>96355560
Good work OP. Let's see here... good ol' 3d6 down the line, then we'll see what we get.
Anonymous No.96362904 >>96362911 >>96363014
Rolled 8, 8, 7, 6, 1 = 30 (5d8)

>>96362872
>Str: 9
>Dex: 13
>Con: 10
>Int: 8
>Wis: 15
>Cha: 9

At face value, we've got a dimwitted man on the bottom-end of average for muscle and looks. Despite that, he's got sticky fingers and the school of hard knocks has taught him when to keep his head down. Now, we'll see how far his lineage has condemned him...

At 9, 13, 10, 8, 15, and 9, that gives him the standard 5 rolls. I'll get those out of the way in two posts, then surmise them.
Anonymous No.96362911 >>96362967 >>96363014
Rolled 13, 14, 4, 18, 5 = 54 (5d20)

>>96362904
That's two afflictions of the soul, one of the feet, one of the legs, and one of the head. Poor bastard.
Anonymous No.96362967 >>96363014 >>96363033 >>96363079 >>96364701 >>96365001 >>96377058 >>96377461
>>96362911
>Flies are drawn to you in swarms, they can smell you are already dead.
>You leave a black charcoal imprint wherever you sleep.
>Your right foot is clubbed, rolling inward and downward at the ankle.
>Your legs have malice and will always attempt to kick passing beggars.
>You were born with the ears of some low bred equine.

This man is surrounded by flies, can't get a room at any inn he's been at before, and walks with a staggering limp. If not for his coordination, he'd need a crutch. Aside from that, he's got the ears of an ass and legs to match. This tiefling has spent his life in roguery to get by in the bowels of a dock city, and after decades of reaffirming the stereotype, decided to risk it all on dungeon-delving with a gaggle of idiots. Almost guaranteed to be Chaotic Evil, there's a hole in the Abyss with his name on it.

This is why miscegenation with demons is banned in every civilized society. Thank you for the tables OP, they're very well executed, even if most won't agree with the vision.
Anonymous No.96363014
>>96362872
>>96362904
>>96362911
>>96362967
OP here dude. Amazing little mongrel you came up with to go along with the rolls. Love how much you fleshed him out. The fact you put so much effort in is a big compliment thank you.
Anonymous No.96363033 >>96363054
>>96362967
>feeling nothing but pity for this thing as it hobbles past in the ally
Anonymous No.96363054 >>96363075 >>96363119
>>96363033
>get a kick for staring
Anonymous No.96363075 >>96363086 >>96363119
>>96363054
Hey I think we should kill this guy, does nothing but attract flies and kick children. I heard he was the one who lured those missing children into the forest last month.
Anonymous No.96363079 >>96363126
>>96362967
>You leave a black charcoal imprint wherever you sleep.
Anonymous No.96363081
>>96359122
>by erasing mechanical racial differences
meme
>combat wheelchair
That was invented by someone's homebrew, and professor X did it in comic books decade ago. Stop repeating narratives from people trying to create ragebait.
Anonymous No.96363086
>>96363075
The man responds to the occusation with appropriately donkey cry "uohhh ", and runs away limping before you got serious.
Anonymous No.96363109 >>96363522 >>96364367
>>96358935
nah that's my job.
Anonymous No.96363119
>>96363054
>>96363075
You know whats crazy, I heard the same thing from terry down at the pub
Anonymous No.96363126
>>96363079
>filename
Anonymous No.96363518
>>96361824
fuck so true, knew it was missing something
Anonymous No.96363522
>>96363109
tieflings carving the horns is underused
Anonymous No.96363799 >>96363873
>>96355542 (OP)
You are a saint OP! And yes, I’m aware of the irony, lol. Have you considered doing a Genasi version? They’d be so much more interesting if they were more than humans with brilliant skin colors and elemental hair.
Anonymous No.96363873 >>96385198
>>96359491
>>96363799
other anon made that suggestion, ill get on and post the thread when im done 100%
Anonymous No.96364367 >>96364694
>>96363109
artist name?
Anonymous No.96364686 >>96364729
>>96362342
You know I usually don't go for the whole "Roll Tiefling Mutations" routine, but this is great. 10/10 would stand alongside against the Hordes of the Dark Lord.
Anonymous No.96364694
>>96364367
fiverr.com/studartsmaju
Anonymous No.96364701 >>96364732 >>96364919 >>96365001
>>96362967
>Anon comes into town
>compulsively kicks at a begger
>uses the wrong foot goes ass over tea kettle
>knocks himself out
>leaves a blackened stain as he gets up, twitching his ears to fend off the flies perpetually surrounding his head
Amazing. No notes.
Anonymous No.96364729 >>96364761
>>96364686
Anon... We are the Hordes of the Dark Lord.
Anonymous No.96364732
>>96364701
most pathetic creation on the plane
Anonymous No.96364761
>>96364729
Oh. Obvious in retrospect.
Anonymous No.96364887 >>96364911 >>96366712 >>96377058
>>96355560
Long black Tongue
Gaunt with protruding ribs
Deathly pale skin sensitive to sunlight
Right arms chokes self in sleep
Walk toe to heel
Worshipful followers

There all the sexy options I am ready to play
Anonymous No.96364911
>>96364887
unsettling mf to watch
Anonymous No.96364919
>>96364701
vaudeville ass existence
Anonymous No.96365001 >>96365027
>>96364701
>>96362967
I worry this kind of thing is funny to point and laugh at but miserable as the one who plays it. You laugh now in the abstract idea of it, but if the screws are put to you to play it in a long, dedicated, campaign? You'd probably soon be asking your DM to let you play anything else. Find a way to kill him on the sly. You already have another sheet ready that used point buy too to ensure you get something useful in the party.

Don't get me wrong. I've seen this play out with immense grace before. A player in a game long ago carried the burden of being 'Fumbles' very well, but you could tell he was relieved to play something that the party could actually use instead of being a walking mockery of life.
Anonymous No.96365027 >>96365059 >>96371694 >>96470270
>>96365001
Going to reply myself to add a thought.

This issue is exactly why TTRPGs have moved to standardized generation systems and away from randumb character generation. You'll get to the session where the joke has already outlived it's usefulness, and now you're just some dumbfuck who shows up to the table to make everything worse. That session can easily be session one. See it enough times and the novelty of playing The Wretch is gone and done with.
Anonymous No.96365059 >>96365063 >>96365088 >>96377058
God I've seen what you did for the other anon so let's see what kind of dude I'm getting in the Dark Lord's Horde with just raw 3d6 stats
>18d6 = 6, 1, 2, 6, 4, 1, 1, 5, 1, 4, 3, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 6, 4
>Str: 9
>Dex: 11
>Con: 7
>Int: 10
>Wis: 6
>Cha: 11
wow that's awful, probably the kind of sickly malformed peon that gets squished in anger when he gets the unenviable task of relaying the news of the fall of the western army to the big bad, they probably only keep him around for laughs desu
>5d8 = 1, 4, 1, 5, 6
>5d20 = 20, 20, 13, 9, 11
okay so two on the head, then the arms stomach and legs. bummer I was wanting the soul I thought it would've been fun

>Nose, chin, and mouth are replaced with the maw of a slobbering mutt
>Your hands grow nails at twice the average speed, they bleed for hours when cut
>Born without lips, your mother was always told to smile more
>You can only consume raw meat
>Like some kind of forest man, long hair grows in a pelt along your legs
that's actually super coherent I'm surprised. I wrote some stuff but it ran out of space here

>>96365027
yeah kinda, one shots three shots NPCs or specific settings. but if everyone is a deformed demon is anyone a deformed demon?
Anonymous No.96365063 >>96365097
>>96365059
cont.

As you finish off the stragglers from this outpost of the Dark Army you hear a soft whimper from a hatch in the floor of the bunker, left forgotten during the earlier carnage. Creaking open the heavy wooden covering uncovers a terrible sight; chained to the cellar wall a scrawny figure whom just is just barely defined in the shadows, waif thin. Breaking through into the shaft of light from above is a grinning canine muzzle looking back at you. From the ground up he looks like some greater daemon got bored creating a hell hound and gave up after the waist. Cruel mockeries of beast claws sprout from his hands while his spindly arms are covered in cuts bruises and dried blood, likely from the pile of rotten carcasses in the corner. The corpses are in varying states of decay and with slight horror you notice the regalia of your own army amongst some of them.
The only other things you can see in this barren oubliette are pieces of trash, likely thrown at this creature from above by the previous tenants, and a dog dish full of brown water. A new name has been scratched violently into the side of the dish over an old embossed one, "Smiles". Sad wet eyes finally adjust to the light and look up at you. Into you. It clearly recognizes you're not one of the Dark Lord. It gropes lamely at the metal around his neck, whatever hope this creature held must've been beaten from it long ago. He gives up just as quickly when he sees your drawn sword and lets out a shuddering breath, seeming content in your judgement. His shoulders relax and he closes his eyes...

that was way sadder than I was intending when I started writing this
Anonymous No.96365088 >>96365121
>>96365059
crazy how they all kind of shifted towards the same aesthetic. The dog mouth and no lips is a WILD combo.
Anonymous No.96365097 >>96365121
>>96365063
man thats just depressing, somebody help him
Anonymous No.96365121 >>96365152 >>96365222 >>96366764 >>96423855
>>96365097
>>96365088
do you sheathe your sword and save the mutt anons y/n
Anonymous No.96365152
>>96365121
Emphatic yes
Anonymous No.96365222
>>96365121
death
Anonymous No.96365894 >>96366368 >>96367341 >>96382731
>>96355542 (OP)
Unironically, I think you need to take inspiration from F.A.T.A.L.'s Anakim (they have 1d10 traits rolled on a 1d100 table) you have way too much Nurgle and not enough actual evil. You should also add horn/tail/hair/skin tables. I still admire your effort to make tieflings bastardly again.
Anonymous No.96365986 >>96366086 >>96366287 >>96366832
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
Very cool, super flavorful and actually appropriate for something that is supposed to be a descendant of a literal demon from hell.
Would make mandatory. Whats that, you want to look like a classically attractive person? Roll a human, not the demon spawn.
Anonymous No.96366010 >>96366712 >>96366721
>>96355560
dog mouth
hunchback
saggy skin
giant calloused hands
reeks of onion wounds
pelt of hair on legs
feet 3 times longer than average
preowned soul

So,,,An ugly hunched horned not werewolf? sounds fun.
Anonymous No.96366086 >>96366287
>>96365986
Guys like you are why these kinds of tables died out.
Anonymous No.96366171 >>96366712
>>96355542 (OP)
>far too many teeth and extending jaw
>wheezy and gurgly voice.
>blotchy skin
>arms longer than normal
>hyper metabolism (emaciated)
>double jointed knees and ankles
>toe to heel walking
>food tastes like ash and water brackish

Beware hungry man
Who walks at night
who gnaws at the window
whose eyes shine white.

close shutters and doors
turn off the lights
stay in your bed
or he'll come to bite
Anonymous No.96366287 >>96443254
>>96365986
>>96366086
Does anyone else think its weird that there is no in between for this. I either see people who want a chaos spawn or sweet little cinnamon rolls
Anonymous No.96366368 >>96371629
>>96365894
>F.A.T.A.L mentioned
Anonymous No.96366712
>>96366010
>>96366171
>>96364887
it would be sick to see a lineup of all these guys in a party
Anonymous No.96366721
>>96366010
Onion wounds is a reference to them serving onion soup after a battle to see who would actually benefit from medical care
Anonymous No.96366764
>>96365121
YES
Anonymous No.96366832 >>96366910 >>96370023 >>96370500
>>96365986
Tieflings are devil spawn, not demonspawn. All modern tieflings are specifically tied to asmodeus. Click to see his 1e and 2e appearances
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Asmodeus
You know what else are devils? succubi and incubi.

Not all devils are attractive obviously, and many are terribly monstrous, but it's clear that you're a fucking secondary who wants to be on le epic contrarian side. Fuck off back to /v/ with the rest of your kind.
Anonymous No.96366910 >>96367065
>>96366832
I feel like if you want to have a cute tiefling there is nothing wrong with having them related to succubi and incubi. its just for people who want to go some other route with the char. nothing wrong with that
Anonymous No.96367065 >>96367646
>>96366910
Oh, I have absolutely zero problems with people wanting more monstrous tiefling options. I think it's actually pretty cool, and it's always comendable when someone on /tg/ actually makes something, I just really don't like it when people act like their preferred aesthetic is the only one that should be used and the only one that makes sense. It's doubly annoying in this case because that anon's post doesn't make sense within established lore, making me think he's a shit stirrer that doesn't know anything about or care for what he's talking about.
Anonymous No.96367341 >>96372390
>>96365894
I feel like letting them choose hair, skin color and horns lets you customize a bit. So that the player still has some control.
Anonymous No.96367646 >>96367923
>>96367065
Eh you're halfways right, I don't like the ammount of attractive tieflings versus actually monstorus tieflings but thats my own fault focusing on that. I rescind my comment about it applying to everyone, it is dumb.
Anonymous No.96367923
>>96367646
be honest when was the last time you saw a fucked up tiefling
Anonymous No.96370023 >>96371273
>>96366832
But enough with the nulore shit. Tieflings are spawns of any outsider, demons, devils, even yugoloths or even more obscure monsters.
Anonymous No.96370500 >>96370660 >>96371273
>>96366832
Anything post-3.x is pure bullshit created by revisionist fucktards. Tieflings were originally tanar'ri spawned in 2E Planescape. Then they expanded them a bit to include other evil planar races.

DevilKin from The Guide To Hell 2E were the original devil spawn. They typically looked entirely human, but had minor devilish quirks.

The faggots at WOTCuck came in and destroyed D&D with their faggy woketarded nonsense and basically shit all over the ACTUAL D&D legacy by raping the game with faggy woketarded political bullshit that most gamers fucking hate.
Anonymous No.96370660 >>96371390 >>96371531
>>96370500
Perhaps the most mentally ill post on the board right now
>most gamers hate
>most popular race from the most popular edition of the most popular game in the entire hobby
You're overdosing on copium and your brain is shutting down in response.
Anonymous No.96371273 >>96371531 >>96371538
>>96370023
>>96370500
>this
The idea that the term tiefling is used to describe anyone with a tainted bloodline makes more sense and is more unique then how it is portrayed rn
Anonymous No.96371390 >>96371430 >>96371437
>>96370660
bro why choose a tiefling when you could play a human, be honest
Anonymous No.96371430
>>96371390
why not?
Anonymous No.96371437
>>96371390
Tieflings look cool and have cool abilities. Humans are boring.
Anonymous No.96371531 >>96371577 >>96373291
>>96370660
>>96371273
Massive levels of retardation in these posts. None of your bullshit is valid.
Cope. Seethe. Dilate.
YWNBAW, newfag.
Anonymous No.96371538
>>96371273
Agreed
Anonymous No.96371577
>>96371531
obsession with trannys despite not being mentioned in the thread once. Youre playing your hand too early
Anonymous No.96371629
>>96366368
hummana hummana hummana
Anonymous No.96371694 >>96371745
>>96365027
ehhhh I feel like non of these have too much of a negative impact n gameplay, its all flavor
Anonymous No.96371745 >>96371757 >>96371787
>>96371694
Having evil legs that kick people at random is 100% going to have a gameplay impact on you. And a very bad one. Though at least the misery of playing this won't be prolonged thanks to the character being executed after walking through one civilized location.
Anonymous No.96371757 >>96371815
>>96371745
its not at random though op wrote its only poor people lmao
Anonymous No.96371787
>>96371745
who would get killed for kicking a beggar lmao
Anonymous No.96371815 >>96371827
>>96371757
Wait, how do the legs know if someone is poor? What if it's some rich brat slumming it with the local thieves guild?
Anonymous No.96371827 >>96371852 >>96371889 >>96371977
>>96371815
see this is why I like it though, because imagine this weird supernatural propensity to target poor people then it just - doesnt - for someone that the party would assume is poor. Intrigue abound
Anonymous No.96371844 >>96371881 >>96371885 >>96372455 >>96372519
>>96355542 (OP)
The way I've always viewed Tieflings is by imagining a Museum of Fantasy cultures.

Walk into that museum and visit each exhibit, and you'll probably logically expect a few things: The Dwarf exhibit has big ass stone pillars, mining equipment, some wicked cool Art Deco style armour, writings inlaid with gold and jewels with a lot of straight and precise angles, because that's what dwarves are.

Go to the Elf exhibit and you'll see a lot of green, a lot of tree fancying, flowy curved weapons and flowy curved writings, everything's very much pretty and elfy, because that's what elves are.

Do it for every fantasy race you care to give a damn about and include in your setting, and then walk over to the Tiefling exhibit and behold an empty fucking room.

Because there's no culture to tieflings. they're an offshoot of races that DO have culture. There's no architecture or fashion, no style of their own, they're parasites off other peoples, existing merely at the behest of tolerance and good will and quite literally offering nothing in return, creating nothing, providing nothing, BEING NOTHING.


Tieflings as they currently are exist because of a 4th edition mistake. They were just an enemy type. They should go back to being subhuman, half-demon enemies.
Anonymous No.96371852
>>96371827
it's like a painful dousing rods for net worth, imagine the opposite! The emperor has no clothes and bingo the clown demon just booted him in the ass
Anonymous No.96371881 >>96372348
>>96371844
Now you're just encouraging them to play the cool edgy outcasts again. Noice.
Anonymous No.96371885 >>96372348
>>96371844
You are right they are parasites, but doesn't that just mean they fail to assimilate into their parent culture and remain on the sidelines as a second class citizen? Like travelers or gypsies
Anonymous No.96371889 >>96371977
>>96371827
Legs of Detecting Broke Bitch.
Anonymous No.96371977
>>96371827
>>96371889
hold on I think this is actually really cool
Anonymous No.96372348 >>96376595
>>96371885
I drag your sorry arse back to the museum and show you the exhibit of gypsies. Even as nomads and hangers on, they still have their own style, music, food, culture and penchant to be stabby criminals!

Even the fucking GYPSIES can have an identity, but Tieflings CAN'T! They're half-devil scum, the result of unholy union, not "people".

>>96371881
THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT ANYWAY!
Anonymous No.96372390 >>96372435 >>96373561 >>96375607
>>96355560
>>96367341
Personally I'd rather have the traits be entirely randomized with a random number (as the Anakim but more serious) rather than have the location of the traits be randomized, as this also opens up more freedom for mechanical-only traits as well as traits not specific to one location, but I just decided to make this table to contribute to the thread

Horns (1d4)
1: 2 ram horns
2: 2 bull horns
3: 2 short round bumps of bone, partially covered in skin
4: 1 long mostly straight horn and 1 short curved horn with a blunt end

Tail (1d10)
1: A snake-like tail covered in scales regardless of your skin, with a club in the shape of a nonfunctioning snake head at the end
2: A vestigial tail similar to that of a fetus
3: A wide, flat, beaver-like tail
4: A tail with a nonfunctional stinger
5-7: A tail which forks into 2 prongs at the end
8-10: A tail with a spade at the end

Hair
1: Bald
2: No change
3: Instead of hair, your scalp produces gray ash
4: Your hair is black, straight, and wiry, similar to boar bristles
5: Instead of hair, your head grows sinew
6: Your hair chars in sunlight, although the portion closest to your head is unaffected.
7: Random portions of your hair appear bloodstained and cannot be washed
8: Your hair stands on end in the presence of divine magic, and painfully adheres to any individual or object bearing it.

Skin
1: Your skin is covered with blisters filled with green fluid that smells like ammonia
2: Your epidermis flakes off in large patches at a time
3: Silver and cold iron bruise your skin on contact
4: Your skin appears like that of a recent corpse, and is cold
5: Your skin is transparent
6: Your skin is covered in large black patches with a red boundary
7: Your skin is thick, rough, and pitted like basalt
8: Your skin emits a shower of sparks when struck, and a small flame if pierced
9: Your skin is incredibly wrinkled, having twice the surface area as a human of your volume.
10: Your skin is made of yellow keratin plates
Anonymous No.96372435 >>96372437
Rolled 2 + 2 (1d4 + 2)

>>96372390
You boys really like getting weird with the skin. Not complaining, I like it.
Anonymous No.96372437
>>96372435
Aw fuck. How do you different die types in one email field again?
Anonymous No.96372455
>>96371844
>go to museum
>theres no Albino Culture exhibit
clearly albinos are parasites
Anonymous No.96372519
>>96371844
>Because there's no culture to tieflings. they're an offshoot of races that DO have culture. There's no architecture or fashion, no style of their own, they're parasites off other peoples, existing merely at the behest of tolerance and good will
Bael Turath is nothing to you? The fuck is this Arkhosian horsepiss?
Anonymous No.96372560 >>96373555 >>96373684 >>96374320 >>96378741
>>96355542 (OP)
>>96356119
>>96356525
Here is the hard to swallow truth. No one gives a fuck about ugly Tieflings. No one will ever play a ugly Tiefling (unless he looks cool and badass). If your Tieflings dont look like sexy demon people you can goon to, youΒ΄re wasted a lot of time and effort to a race that will NEVER see play
Anonymous No.96372576 >>96373500 >>96377058
>>96355542 (OP)
I just rolled all because lazy: 7,9,7,7,15,2,1,9

Wrinkled pig snout, bruises from being hanged, right arm is short and stunted, lesions erupt when I lie, blood hungry roots to a strange chthonic organ, knees tilt inwards while ankles are spaced apart, horny ungulate hooves, hunted by a sect of witch hunters for a crime I didn't commit.

I would probably tie the lesions to the chthonic organ, and the bruises from the witch hunters. The rest actually fits quite well with each other considering how weird they are independently.
Anonymous No.96373291
>>96371531
>gets called out for literal coping and seething
>which includes ignoring realities that make him uncomfortable
>n-no u!
How does a race in a ttrpg not being ugly induce a mental breakdown of this degree?
Anonymous No.96373500
>>96372576
op here, its really cool to see that they all interact well enough. I like this guy you rolled up alot
Anonymous No.96373555
>>96372560
Nothing against pretty Tieflings, I just think that players should have the option if they did want to play something with some edge
Anonymous No.96373561
>>96372390
op again, I would love to make a table just for horns but I have a hard time describing them outside just naming the animal they are from. I want to get an artist to do horns so that I can just use the images
Anonymous No.96373684 >>96377547
>>96372560
Are the horns covered in skin? Never got this part of tiefling art. Why make them the same color. Foreskin horns
Anonymous No.96373790 >>96374506
>>96355542 (OP)
>to create fucked up tieflings.
So, just demons? Innovative.
Anonymous No.96374320
>>96372560
This is objectively correct.

But still. I played Prettylings all of once, regreted it, and went back to my other faggotry.
Anonymous No.96374506
>>96373790
no?
Anonymous No.96375607
>>96372390
is there not a skin one in ops post already?
Anonymous No.96376595 >>96376700 >>96378451
>>96372348
>They're half-devil scum, the result of unholy union, not "people".
lol, the majority of all half-whatever fantasy stories literally push against that with the justification usually being, that the human half is all it takes to redeem them so they can rise above the monstrous half.
Anonymous No.96376700
>>96376595
I mean thats badass though
Anonymous No.96377058 >>96380499 >>96407108 >>96417619 >>96443541
>>96355729
>>96355786
>>96355892
>>96362342
>>96362967
>>96364887
>>96365059
>>96372576
Any drawfriends want to take a crack at these?
Anonymous No.96377461
>>96362967
This one is so coherent its crazy
Anonymous No.96377547
>>96373684
>foreskin horns
how do you like your tieflings cut or uncut
Anonymous No.96378451
>>96376595
is that not a good trope?
Anonymous No.96378741
>>96372560
you're right, they should never see play.
Anonymous No.96378790 >>96378848
>>96355608
>>96358951
>>96359049
You don't dislike ANY aspect of your favorite game?
Really?

>>96355659
>>Waah, people are playing thing they like in a way that doesn't affect me
He literally stated he's been playing with them thoughbeit. This is not a "le NOT OKAY to criticize what people do behind closed doors!!!!" scenario.

>>96355719
It may surprise you to learn that in some circles not everything revolves around sexual fetishes. I know this is an unusual thing among the LGBTQP+, and modern 4chan.
Anonymous No.96378848
>>96378790
yeah no I don't care what people play, or how they play them. One of my favorite PC's was played by my friend and was a softboy twink druid. It was just the fact that it seemed like the racial bog standard for tieflings. That combined with the whole subplot that penetrates of this profiled people just didnt gel with me. How can you be downtrodden and also all the most stunning people on the planet. Wanted to give the people that play with me the option of having something different.
>>96355719
Regarding this, what do you mean what is fetishistic about anything I wrote here?
Anonymous No.96380499 >>96417619
>>96377058
bumping this because im biased and one is mine
Anonymous No.96382731 >>96388975 >>96390189
>>96355542 (OP)
>>96365894

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Anakim_(3.5e_Race)
Anonymous No.96385198 >>96386133
>>96363873
Different anon, but I fully support that! Apparently there’s never been any roll tables for Genasi, ever, or at least none that I can find. Not sure that they would be as deformed as some of your Tieflings options, though I can see Aasimar rocking the β€œBiblically accurate” aesthetic!
Anonymous No.96386133 >>96397261
>>96385198
im working on it
Anonymous No.96388975
>>96382731
Not OP, but cool, thanks for sharing.
Anonymous No.96390189 >>96417619
>>96382731
OP, this is cool, thanks for sharing
Anonymous No.96391138 >>96425169
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
Interesting, but these are just demons.
I agree Tieflings should just be removed.
Anonymous No.96392190 >>96393286
>>96355542 (OP)
Cool shit, I love this more variable way of building characters. I'll be honest I don't really hate the pretty tieflings at all, but I like the idea that having demonic heritage is like a lottery where you either can be an inhumanly attractive supermodel or a hideous mutant freak. Fiends themselves often follow that sort of variance between them don't they? Honestly the only mistake DnD tries to do is make all tieflings look uniform but that's probably more of a consequence of trying to solidify their "brand identity" more then anything.
Anonymous No.96393286 >>96393608
>>96392190
reminder that this is a blue board
Anonymous No.96393608 >>96394325
>>96393286
literally not half as bad as shit in the pinup threads, its just art man
Anonymous No.96394325
>>96393608
I don't care but someone else might
Anonymous No.96397261
>>96386133
Take your time, it’s better to do something right than fast. Thanks in advance.
Anonymous No.96400505 >>96406990 >>96422721
I feel like even in 5e you could have an abyssal or feral tiefling that has traits like what OP came up with and it wouldn't be out of place or anything. The stereotypical tieflings we have now tend to mostly all be asmodeus tiefling. Being a stereotypical devil person just has better mass appeal for people than being a horrific gremlin. If you do want to be a horrid monster though, I think it'd be fairly easily accepted by most groups.
Anonymous No.96404866
Bump
Anonymous No.96405494 >>96407103
Hey OP, I found someone’s attempt at making a Genasi roll table in the archives, if you’re interested in taking a look and seeing if any ideas work for you, the link is below.

>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/93014929/#93028854
Anonymous No.96406698
Anonymous No.96406990
>>96400505
>play a tiefling
>an actual, pre-4e tiefling, complete with randomized traits you rolled off a table
>but use a makeup kit and prosthetics to pass yourself off as a 4e/5e Asmodean tiefling
Anonymous No.96407103 >>96407968
>>96405494
Bro thank you for this, good find. Ill be sure to credit if I do use anything
Anonymous No.96407108
>>96377058
Bumping this I want to see some freaks
Anonymous No.96407968
>>96407103
Thanks, good luck!
Anonymous No.96408144
>>96355542 (OP)
Yes, thank you. I've had it with those quirky original character donut steel tieflings, these are so much better.
Anonymous No.96408447 >>96408495
>>96355608
>>96355659
>op makes some homebrew for GAME
>fans of GAME take personal offence at this and attacks op
Yeah, how dare you modify our perfect corporate product. Seriously, what mindset is this?
Anonymous No.96408495 >>96410236
>>96408447
The first is clearly trying to tell him that homebrewing for D&D is a fool's errand, though. It's an unconscious expression of more fundamentally not wanting to play D&D.
Anonymous No.96410236
>>96355608
>>96408495
People want to play DnD because it is what they grew up or are familiar with, plus it is the most accessible one. It is extremely common for DMs and players to say at any point that they like X and Y elements of the system, but don't care for Z.

In my experience, it is bound to happen the longer you play the system, and get to know its pros and cons; you then begin to say stuff like 'man, itd be cool if this was like that instead of this', so you start homebrewing, with varying degrees of success.
Anonymous No.96413934
Anonymous No.96416074
Anonymous No.96416899 >>96417537
>>96355542 (OP)
>5. Crimson tears.
Kay. Not too bad. Just don't cry.
>10. Can't look up too important folk.
Okay, can deal with that. Might just pass for shy
>19. No sense of touch unless evil
Cool. I have a built in alignment radar.
>4. Cold frostbitten hand
I can wear a glove.
>2. Always sickly skinny
Fine. Better than being fat. This can be hidden aswell.
>11. Pelt along legs
Again. Just stuff in pants.
>13. Walking on glass.
Sucks. But maybe I can still hide it.

Great! With some practice and prep I'll pass for norm-
>20. Leper
Fuck you.
Anonymous No.96417537
>>96416899
you got it rough man, probably the roughest in the thread4
Anonymous No.96417619
>>96377058
>>96380499
>>96390189
cope that no one will because drawfags only want to draw attractive chicks
Anonymous No.96422024 >>96422652
Anonymous No.96422652
>>96422024
get this AI slop out of my thread, back to your containment
Anonymous No.96422721 >>96422838
>>96400505
>Abyssal Tiefling

I think it's dumb that Abyssal Tieflings stayed as an Unearthed Arcana race for years and once they finally became an official race they're just a slight rework of the Unearthed Arcana race instead of going down the route 2014 5e Infernal Tieflings did where their abilities are inherited from whatever Archduke they descend from.
Granted this is WotC here and they'll probably drop a book with Abyssal Tieflings that descend from Demogorgon, Orcus or even Jubilex but they'll charge an arm and a leg for when they do
Anonymous No.96422795 >>96422806 >>96423453
Kill tieflings. Behead tieflings. Roundhouse kick a tiefling into the concrete. Slam dunk a tiefling baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy blacks. Defecate in a tieflings food. Launch tieflings into the sun. Stir fry tieflings in a wok. Toss tieflings into active volcanoes. Urinate into a tieflings gas tank. Judo throw tieflings into a wood chipper. Twist tieflings heads off. Report tieflings to the IRS. Karate chop tieflings in half. Curb stomp pregnant black tieflings. Trap tieflings in quicksand. Crush tieflings in the trash compactor. Liquefy tieflings in a vat of acid. Eat tieflings. Dissect tieflings. Exterminate tieflings in the gas chamber. Stomp tiefling skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate tieflings in the oven. Lobotomize tieflings. Mandatory abortions for tieflings. Grind tiefling fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown tieflings in fried chicken grease. Vaporize tieflings with a ray gun. Kick old tieflings down the stairs. Feed tieflings to alligators. Slice tieflings with a katana.
Anonymous No.96422806 >>96422816
>>96422795
Kiss tieflings. Headpat tieflings, spin a tiefling around and watch her tail twirl.
Anonymous No.96422816
>>96422806
Put a bomb in a tiefling's mouth. Throw knives at tieflings. Inflate tieflings until they pop. Send tieflings into a blackhole. Castrate tieflings. Feed tieflings poisoned food. Force tieflings to walk the plank. Push tieflings into a pit. Kneel on a tiefling's neck. Curse tieflings with a spell. Stuff tiefling babies into the washing machine and turn it on. Flatten tieflings with a tank. Pop a tiefling's car tire. Strike tiefling children with a ruler. Make tieflings swim in the Mariana Trench. Cut off a tiefling's limbs. Airdrop tieflings into Antarctica. Throw tieflings off the boat. Pressurize tieflings into fine crystals. Light fireworks in a tiefling's ass. Falcon-punch a tiefling in the face. Make tieflings into fiction. Blow tieflings heads off with grenade launchers. Blow tieflings brains open with a sniper rifle. Lock tieflings in a cage and drown them underwater. Nail tieflings to a cross and stab them. Run over tieflings with a tank feet-first. Crush tieflings with a press. Attack tieflings with acid. Boil tieflings in a pan. Lock tieflings inside a brazen bull. Burn tieflings alive. Drag tieflings across a wall of spikes. Pour molten lava on tieflings. Quarter tieflings. Impale tieflings on a pike. Tenderize tieflings with a mallet. Ionise tieflings in a mass spectrometer. Irradiate tieflings in a nuclear reactor. Spaghettify tieflings in a black hole. Curse tieflings with the necronomicon. Trap tieflings in purgatory. Bang a tieflings testicles with a spiked bat. Throw tieflings off a twelve story building. Freeze dry tieflings in the vacuum of space. Fry tieflings with power lines. Feed tieflings ricin. Kneecap a tiefling with a twelve gauge. Re enslave tieflings. Sell tieflings organs on the black market. Run tieflings over with an eighteen wheeler. Throw tieflings into the grand canyon. Burn tieflings with jet engine exhaust. Beat tieflings to death with a tire iron. Cauterise a tieflings asshole with a blowtorch.
Anonymous No.96422838 >>96448449
>>96422721
You'll never hear a good word from me about WOTC's handling of races of UA in general. Their entire process for deciding what becomes real and what doesn't seems fairly schizophrenic imo. I mostly play pf2e these days, which has its own issues but I very much prefer it to 5e.
Anonymous No.96422899
>>96355542 (OP)
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
I like it. I've always been a fan of the original Tieflings/Aasimar and have had the literal baby blue femboy tiefling in a game before. I'd say it goes a little too far if there's no mechanical bonuses (or maluses), but I'd still play a character using this chart. Hell, I might take this chart and use it to design some NPCs for my Mundus Carnis game I'm running.
Anonymous No.96422905
>>96355542 (OP)
This is how I tiefling. Yes I make the sounds.
Anonymous No.96423453 >>96423586
>>96422795
Anon I think you uh, missed changing one of those
Anonymous No.96423586
>>96423453
No, he's just also racist against blacks.
Anonymous No.96423855
>>96365121
Empathetic no, I'll make it quick and painless. It's suffered enough.
Anonymous No.96423902
>No I don't want any blue femboy twinks at my table!
>>ends up with this sexy creature in his game
Anonymous No.96425169 >>96438404
>>96391138
Tieflings should be replaced with half-fiends/cambions and Dragonborn should be replaced with half-dragons.
Trying to deemphasize the fact that racial traits are gained through reproduction was one of the main factors allowing WOTC to completely retcon races in 5.5e.
Anonymous No.96425292 >>96425645
with this thread wrapping up just wanted to say thanks so much for the feedback anons. Going to try and keep making more stuff for us all
Anonymous No.96425645 >>96427293
>>96425292
Hey OP, just thought of this, but how about for the Genasi table there's options related to the Szuldar? Just thought that I should mention it before I forget.
Anonymous No.96427293 >>96428974
>>96425645
that would be sick, ill be sure to include some
Anonymous No.96428974 >>96429403
>>96427293
Nice, I'll try to come up with more suggestions! Like, how about something like "is surrounded by a scent related to their element"? BTW, are you thinking of having one table with options that can be tweaked for any element or something else? Because that might affect my suggestions.
Anonymous No.96429403 >>96433225
>>96428974
im probably going to make a table for each element
Anonymous No.96433225
>>96429403
Out of curiosity, will there be a table of element-neutral options too, like the scent one I mentioned?
Anonymous No.96437329
Anonymous No.96438371
>>96355542 (OP)
check the book they were introduced in, back in ADnD 2e. It was all random tables and mismatched parts. They were never meant to be a main-line race. Then again, neither were Orcs, and look how much love they get. Strange days.
Anonymous No.96438404 >>96439181
>>96425169
>half dragons
i beg of thee to consider the implications of such a thing. theres a reason dragonborn exist in their place
Anonymous No.96439181 >>96442586 >>96443165
>>96438404
The implications are level adjustment, I was arguing from the perspective of it not making sense that a humanoid dragon is completely humanoid except on the surface, not more powerful than other humanoids of the same size, and somehow more common in the setting than actual half-dragons. Dragonborn are to half-dragons what green-tinged supermodel orcs are to pig-faced orcs and what pastel tieflings are to pre-2024 cambions
Anonymous No.96439424
I remember when dragonborn were a special ritual to Bahamut not diluted half dragons...
Anonymous No.96440134 >>96441001
>>96355542 (OP)
So fucking tired of Vitiligo Tieflings, please God let this take off.
Anonymous No.96441001
>>96440134
what about revitiligo tieflings?
Anonymous No.96442586 >>96442934 >>96443165
>>96439181
People don't want to play "half" or something, they want to play the real deal if they can. Dragonborns are the closes you can get to playing a Dragon beyond just playing a Dragon. That's part of the reason why WotC did away with the weird Rebirth Ritual thing, other than that it's weird
If you're complaining about Dragonborns being weaker than a Mutt then again, blame WotC for thinking Breath Weapons and Damage Resistance was good enough for almost a decade. It's why there's so many Homebrew's for Dragonborns, they suck and WotC refuses to make them Goliath Firbolg sized people who can tank a hit
Anonymous No.96442934 >>96443165
>>96442586
I mean I know a lot of people that enjoy halfers or hybrids. I do as well personally. In fact most of my characters lately have been weird ass hybrids of some sort.
Anonymous No.96442989
This garbage is why you guys don't work in the industry and can't even work up to a bronze seller on DMsguild.

>hurr durr I'll ruin the most popular race in DND by cranking up the freakshit to 11 and making them ugly

Die in irrelevance alongside this thread.
Anonymous No.96443165 >>96443561
>>96439181
>>96442586
>>96442934
The implications are that humans can fuck dragons and make it work
Anonymous No.96443254 >>96448413
>>96366287
Funnily enough, I was thinking that this table could use some variety. It's all horrific shit that makes you wonder why the tiefling in question doesn't just neck himself, it could use a few inhumanly beautiful options mixed in, to really juxtapose the horrible shit. Like, beautiful face on the body of a cripple. Deer skull head, rocking tits, gnarled limbs, etc.
Anonymous No.96443541 >>96451706
>>96377058
>>96355729
I tried
Anonymous No.96443561 >>96443661 >>96443667
>>96443165
>The implications are that humans can fuck dragons and make it work

This would also bring up the question on whether or not Half-Dragons are a common place race of halfies or a rarity that people know can happen but don't probably wouldn't see in their lifetime.

What kind of Half-Dragon is common to see. Silver Dragons are known to fuck humans because of how social they are with them but a Green, Red or Black Dragon probably aren't going to be so casual unless they're getting something out of it like a potential "chess piece" in a long con they're playing
Tieflings are as numerous as they are because the Archdevils are all foaming at the mouth trying to gain as much power as possible for their own ends, so you could have some Dragons do the same by having as many Half-Dragons to justify a decent population of them
Anonymous No.96443661 >>96443675 >>96444242
>>96443561
>What kind of Half-Dragon is common to see.
mostly good aligned half-dragons i reckon
good aligned dragons are more likely to have sex with mortals due to not being murderous pricks most of the time
(you could argue that evil dragons would just rape, and i wouldn't argue that point, but i would argue that they would probably just eat their victims afterwards)
>Silver Dragons are known to fuck humans because of how social they are with them
do you think other dragons think silver dragons are sluts/freaks for screwing around with mortals so much
>Green, Red or Black Dragon probably aren't going to be so casual unless they're getting something out of it like a potential "chess piece" in a long con they're playing
i suspect you're most likely to see them in positions of power. royal dynasties with dragon blood, barbarian warlords, etc. or in positions of leadership within a cult following the dragon around, a divinely appointed scion of the dragon who can keep the proles in line for the scaly fuck on top.
>Tieflings are as numerous as they are because the Archdevils are all foaming at the mouth trying to gain as much power as possible
worth noting that tieflings are explicitly not exclusively the result of fucking demons (directly fucking demons makes cambions after all) but the result of having a bloodline touched in some way by diabolic power (grandma fucked a demon, ancestor was a powerful warlock, born in a land cursed by the hells, etc)
Anonymous No.96443667
>>96443561
Ignoring D&D I think it makes reasonable sense that half-dragons be freakishly uncommon in any other setting, similar to demi-gods.
Anonymous No.96443675 >>96443683
>>96443661
An evil dragon would have more sex, and tieflings are freaks
Anonymous No.96443683 >>96443700 >>96443841
>>96443675
>An evil dragon would have more sex
yeah but i doubt it would be with lowly mortal apes
they'd be off fucking evil nymphs or night hags or something
Anonymous No.96443700 >>96443841 >>96444242
>>96443683
>Lowly
>Apes
>Mortal
Aswell, an evil being wouldnt want to lay a night hag or other evil creature, it would desire the taboo and corruption of screwing the good
Anonymous No.96443841 >>96444442
>>96443683
>>96443700
A night hag sounds like a "sit back and think of the treasure" situation
Anonymous No.96444242 >>96444280 >>96444417 >>96444442
>>96443661
>do you think other dragons think silver dragons are sluts/freaks for screwing around with mortals so much

Yes

>worth noting that tieflings are explicitly not exclusively the result of fucking demons (directly fucking demons makes cambions after all) but the result of having a bloodline touched in some way by diabolic power

This reminds me that it's odd that WotC never made a Warlock subclass for Dragons. It's not an uncommon story for Adventurers to be going on a quest given to them by a Dragon so it wouldn't be too far out there to suggest the Dragon would give an adventurer or 2 some sort of power through a pact they made

>>96443700
I don't know, if you're in the business of gaining power I don't see a reason you wouldn't breed with another powerful creature to help boost your kids abilities beyond potential betrayal
Breeding with something that isn't evil and possibly wouldn't want it sounds like you're going out of your way for something that would be easier if you just convinced a Night Hag or a Dao that playing a long con would benefit them
Dragons being bred to come out a certain way isn't even new, Dragonspawn and Draconian's history is being mutated to be foot soldiers. Cult of the Dragon does this shit all the time
Anonymous No.96444280
>>96444242
But which is more sadistic?
Anonymous No.96444417 >>96444433 >>96444442 >>96444718
>>96444242
>it's odd that WotC never made a Warlock subclass for Dragons
Dragons don't have spell-like abilities by default in 5e anymore, unless you count supplements.
Anonymous No.96444433
>>96444417
Even then, a Dragon granting motherfuckers the ability to huck fireballs twice a day seems like a Gimme for easy Elemental themed spell lists for Warlocks.
Anonymous No.96444442
>>96443841
who are we to assume that what we find attractive is the same as what dragons find attractive
>>96444242
>Breeding with something that isn't evil and possibly wouldn't want it
also sounds like you're gunning for some kind of wannabe hero born of your wayward seed to show up and avenge his mother by slaying you
>>96444417
this is true but they also still often have spellcasting anyway if they're a named dragon
or it could just be some wacky drink a drop of dragon blood and gain phenomenal powers type shit
Anonymous No.96444445 >>96444460 >>96445640
get
Anonymous No.96444460
>>96444445
FOOL
Anonymous No.96444718
>>96444417
We will do the objectively correct thing and ignore WotC stupid decision making skills because they get in the way of my fun
Anonymous No.96445640
>>96444445
Cursed
Anonymous No.96448413 >>96451631
>>96443254
I see what you mean, just thinking about what you’re talking about…
Anonymous No.96448449 >>96455537
>>96422838
I think it's whatever interests them vs what they think they're obligated to put out but don't want too.
You could easily have Abyssal Tieflings have a sort of built-in ability instead of being given spells at different levels to differentiate them from the Infernal Tieflings but all of this would require some work that WotC isn't interested in
Anonymous No.96451631 >>96452916
>>96448413
Yeah, I like the idea too. BTW, how's it going OP?
Anonymous No.96451706
>>96443541
Somehow I don't see this style of tiefling taking off
Anonymous No.96452916 >>96454804
>>96451631
Its going, had to put the other table on the backburner for a minute, trying to balance getting a little thing finished for a festival around here
Anonymous No.96454804
>>96452916
I was more asking about how your weekend was, but I hope the festival thing goes well!
Anonymous No.96455537
>>96448449
So it all boils down to WotC sucking? I can see that. What do you hope they do with Tieflings, or Aasimar and Genasi, in 6e, BTW?
Anonymous No.96461147 >>96464383 >>96472104 >>96477405
>>96355542 (OP)
Winged Tieflings, based or cringe? What do you say anons?
Anonymous No.96461235 >>96464360
>>96355560
>>96355572
>>96355577
Ironically this makes me actually want to play a Tiefling desu
Anonymous No.96464360
>>96461235
I’d like a better mix of deformities and typical Tiefling traits, but otherwise the same.
Anonymous No.96464383
>>96461147
They’re a sometimes food. Best for Tieflings with very close ties to their hellish
heritage, methinks.
Anonymous No.96469065
Anonymous No.96470270
>>96365027
The move away is in part due to the move away from higher lethality at low levels. Ending up with some terrible wretch of a character works fine when everyone brought 3 backups anyway and he won't make it through the first two rooms of a dungeon.
But on the slim chance he does...well now you've got a story of how this miserable wretch beat the odds. And then you can start thinking more about what you're going to do with him beyond his existence as a joke doomed to die.

That's something you loose as generation systems become more standardized and have the edges sanded off. Everything ends up samey.
Anonymous No.96472104
>>96461147
Based. Picture related really sells the look well.
Anonymous No.96472131 >>96476586
>>96357478
I still think of that specific piece from 4e on the right whenever I picture a tiefling in my mind's eye.
Anonymous No.96476586 >>96476619
>>96472131
What book is that from, out of curiosity?
Anonymous No.96476619
>>96476586
It's from their entry in the Player's Handbook if I'm not mistaken.
Anonymous No.96477405
>>96461147
Vestigial wings are best as a default trait, with one of the random traits being wings that can actually fly (as in FATAL's Anakim)
Anonymous No.96477463 >>96480916
How do we feel about the Malebranches from Brancalonia? They're devils that rebelled against The Devil and became mortals instead.
Anonymous No.96480916
>>96477463
I’ve never heard of them before. Never done anything with Brancalonia.
Anonymous No.96481279 >>96484514
>>96356044
is that the Kengan Omega author?
Anonymous No.96482047 >>96482172 >>96484489 >>96489294
>>96355542 (OP)
I like drawing tieflings as ugly monsters rather than something I'd want under my bed, or in my bed, or on top of me in my bed
Anonymous No.96482172 >>96482410
>>96482047
I mean that's still pretty hot
Anonymous No.96482410
>>96482172
Anonymous No.96483498
The popular 5E and BG3 tiefling appearance just seems ridiculous and over the top, and more typical of the lowest grade fantasy art that hyper exaggerates physical traits. Tieflings were rare in previous editions, and their features seemed more grounded while still being fantastical, and they genuinely made them outcasts who faced prejudice and struggled with their own nature. Turning them into a standard option for players in order to cater to retards led to this cartoonish version of them that maximises surface level appeal like exotic sexy appearance but waters down the substance of their identity into nothing more serious than what flavour of ice cream to eat.
Anonymous No.96484489 >>96485298
>>96482047
Would
Anonymous No.96484514
>>96481279
yes
Anonymous No.96485298 >>96489294
>>96484489
>ywn a hellspawn
Anonymous No.96485608 >>96489294
>draw monster as a joke
>fall in love
every time
Anonymous No.96485614 >>96485869
>race of demonic hellspawn
>the official LGBT race
kek
Anonymous No.96485869
>>96485614
It's not really surprising to be fair. It happens a lot in fact. Devils have been associated with the LGBT over and over again because of the sort of correlation of "Anti-Christian Values". It pops up a lot where the angel is pure while the devil is "kinky" or "bicurious" at the very least or just flat out pansexual or something. Even in the westernization of one of my favorite series Wish by Clamp though angels and demons were "genderless" they assigned male pronouns to demons and female to angels and all the demon characters were known for sleeping with anything that moves damn near. It's a relatively common trope that angels represent pure Christian values and the bond between a man and a woman while demons and devils are typically promiscuous and possibly gay. And even from the fandom side, because the trend is so common, it's unsurprising that the LGBT community would be attracted to something that represents more freedom and rebellion against the "God fearing Christian" status quo.
Anonymous No.96488019 >>96489286
>>96355542 (OP)
Do you prefer your Tieflings with or without tails?
Anonymous No.96489286
>>96488019
with
Anonymous No.96489294
>>96482047
>>96485298
>>96485608
divines give me strength for I am a weak man