Thread 96367513

Krakeneater edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96354711

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Booru:
https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread question:
Does your faction have an artillery piece? If not, invent one. (or invent a second one)

>TQ
Not really, picrel or the shærk is as close as we get.
>invent one
Uhhh a big fat kraken that just throws rock and broken pieces of a temple.

I love my Kraken Eater, I need to get some Mod Podge to finally add some waves to his base, it's a little too static atm.

>TQ
I've been pushing Ghouls with guns, I would enjoy if FEC somehow had a working Trebuchet that maybe launched livestock or gore spatters so it maybe gave the ghouls a bonus to attacking. Effectively chumming the waters.

>>96367513 (OP)
Yes, but give me the Squig Gobba back you bastards

>>96367555
With prices on the most recent gitz releases, are you sure you wanna tempt the monkeys paw?

>>96367513 (OP)
>TQ
Warp Lightning Cannon my beloved
I wish that the RoR had a WLC instead of a RWB — the other two units use warp lightning weapons!

>>96367555
can't you literally use this thing's >>96367564 rules but with a recast of the gobba?
there's also a version to print you could plop onto a cheap chariot of your choosing to represent the profile more faithfully(?)

>>96367548
Since ghouls are a mix of high medieval and some late medieval, burgundian courtly era I think a huge bombard could be cool for them, something like the guns of Orban. Although the question is whether ghouls would be smart enough to operate them, maybe they could have a few engineers captive to work the guns for them, mongol style.
I also had an idea for a ghoul warmachine battering ram, but instead of a finely sculpted head they just found a big wolf or goat beast and put its severed head on a big log. See picrel.

>>96367513 (OP)
>TT
Kairos Fateweaver spitting out ballistic pellets from his gizzard. (Does Kairos ever argue with himself?)

>>96367589
That's as fitting as the flinger arachnarok

>>96367555
this >>96367589 is the one i have. it just needs to be sized up a bit to work the same.

>>96367596
I feel like there's an implication ghouls couldn't operate things, but they're just humans who went crazy. I have to imagine they might just have former guys who ran artilery who went nuts and can still get things operating or delude themselves.

If not just make it really swingy with d6 attacks or something so as to imply the ghouls kinda fuck it up.

>>96367513 (OP)
>tq
Yea we got a couple of sort of artillery pieces, spawn of chotec obviously.
If i have to come up with a new one I say give the arcanodon a chance to shine

>TQ
Ye
>Make a second one
I'm actually struggling beyond "bigger cannon" or "the hwacha from the Empire"

>>96367540
id rather have a big balista mounted on a big crab.

>>96367727
If IDK get more crabs other than just Underworlds crab I would sign on to the faction. There's a severe lack of crabs.

>>96367715
what about cannon but aiming up?

>>96367739
crabs don't fit the idoneth
lobsters and shrimps would

>>96367752
EXPLAIN THEN ANON, EXPLAIN YOUR ANTI CRAB LOGIC

>>96367743
Would be cool, like one of those stubby bombards. That one does have a rack and pinion system for elevation but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't function, or rather would only allow for depression and not elevation?

>>96367759
idoneth fast and long
crabs slow and stubby

>>96367776
>t. never got chased underwater by a crab

I've literally only seen two different stormhosts in my life

>>96367752
Are you confusing crabs with crayfish?

>>96367776
Turtles are renowned for being fast and long

>>96367776
Crabs can be fast, imagine a long base crab that moves sideways with a war platform on it, or giant hermit crab where the deepkin made a shell custom for it to ride on. That would be sick as hell.

>>96367785
For me it *was* Sigmarite Brotherhood

>>96367785
Not a SCE player buy if I were, Lions of Sigmar look the coolest

>>96367785
My oc army, the hammerknights of sigmar, have a blue white and gold color scheme but different from the other blue white and gold color scheme

>>96367715
Feel like if CoS wants more artillery they're going to step on the toes of empire at some point. Cogfort is the obvious idea though.
>>96367785
Ive seen the standard gold, the skaventide iron/silver, and some painted white or black

>>96367513 (OP)
Some kind of Spite seed mortar unit (akin to the biovore but without the obnoxious rules) would be sweet for sylvaneth.

Also as someone who actually really likes 4e, why has AoS never tapped into like statuses other than ensnared? Why aren't there units other than just flamers, who apply burning, or rats doing poison damage over time? Is it just too much mental stack? I think it would be cool if a poisoner like the new ghost, if it landed an attack, the unit suffers 1 mortal wound for every phase for the rest of the turn ot battle round.

>>96367785
God, they tried so painfully hard to make Stormcast “chapters” a thing without none of the build up. That said, for me it’s Knights of the Aurora, Sons of Mallus, Stormblood Guard, Radiant Suns of Sigmar, and Blades of Dawn.

>>96367883
To be fair, early Battletomes had nothing to realy feature, so they filled space with paint shemes. There was pages upon pages of Khorne shemes or Ironjaw clans.
Flayed ones get a shout out recent and Kryptboyz got featured with the Ardboy remeak, but most of them are gone to time

>>96367792
turtles are absolutely faster than crabs, and they made the idoneth turtle longer on purpose

Dispossessed actually seem kinda fun in 4th? Helicopters, rune magic, beards and all that shiz. But I won't be playing them. I want to, but there's no way they're surviving into the Battletome.

>>96367911
That’s true. I’d love to see the ones I listed get a random shout out at some point. Also it’s funny that the Sons of Mallus aren’t the SCE for Excelcis.

>>96367878
>shoots seeds for new (mini)wildwoods to grow out of
Kino
>>96367883
Why did they fail so hard at that anyway, I see stormcast players fairly often but almost nobody gives a fuck about the various stormchapters or whatever. Not a whole lot of homebrew on that front either. I see a reasonable amount of people make up their own idoneth enclaves, seraphon starhosts, etc, especially homebrew CoS are very common. But not so with stormcast, while it's the opposite for their 40k counterparts. What gives ?

>>96367992
I think it’s because they never really went into the weeds about how they all interact with eachother outside of being allies in battle and lacking named characters even if they don’t have models to serve as a point of view provider for the reader. Hell, we barely know anything about the other Lord Commanders and what drives them because it’s just straight up not written. Not to mention that outside of the 6(?) main hosts the others almost never got more lore than what you see on that page. It’s just something AoS lacks in general, what the factions do besides fighting or preparing to fight.

>>96367992
nothing gives, it didn't "fail so hard" you're retarded and trying to make something out of nothing.

>>96367940
with the new helsmiths book you've got a pretty suitable proxy for everything but the helicopters, so if you like the old dwarf models i'd say go for it, and if they get axed out of cities, just run them as helsmiths

>>96367992
Stormcasts don't really seem to have anything differing the hosts beyond color scheme and primary location.

>>96368055
You don't have to sperg out anon, I don't gave anything against stormcast I'm genuinely interested. Stormhosts as little subfactions a la chapters just didn't catch on, and it's not like gw didn't try to in 1st edition. I'm just curious why that is.
>>96368093
I think this is mostly it, marines are more of a blank slate aesthetically too. I think the reforging makes it hard for different stormhosts to have a dedicated home and culture too, you kinds get the idea that they're all in azyr waiting to be beamed down when they're not fighting. I guess a way to make them more interesting is delving into their religion a bit more. With how some stormcast have secondary patron deities (morrda being the big one) besides sigmar, could be a good entry point for some more variety in em.

>>96368215
>marines are more of a blank slate aesthetically too
Might not be a big part but, yeah, if all the marine models we had were like, say, the Deathwing sculpts then that'd probably dampen things a bit on that front. Or maybe I'm just falling in the "they should cater to my whims, that'd totally appeal to everyone"-trap, as I'd prefer them to be rather plainer overall.

>>96368215
Tell me your metric for catching on dumbass. They still exist, even a stiff like you can probably still name half of them.

>>96368269
nta but yeah it's harder to make stormcast but vikings, stormcast but vampires, stormcast but crusaders when they already have a fairly defined art-deco greco-roman aesthetic.

>>96368215
Marines are a blank slate but have more to build and base off of. You have stories of renegades, loyalists, barely legally loyalists, guys with families yo go home to, guys with hobbies, guys who have weird rituals, etc. Stormcasts do NOT have that. They're all in Sigmar's sex dungeon when not ripping and tearing.

>>96368432
>they already have a fairly defined art-deco greco-roman aesthetic.
I'd like for that to be true but the thunderstrike stuff doesn't reflect that pitch at all.

>>96368470
It's true, primariscast suck ass.

>>96368361
I'm specifically comparing to them marines where even a sloptuber addict who's never even set foot in a gw store could name all your first founding chapters and a few of the more relevant succesors. I think if you were to ask the aos players at your lgs to name the main stormcast colour scheme less than 20% of them could answer correctly and I genuinely think that's being very generous. I can name around 6 off the top of my head hammers of sigmar, anvils of the heldenhammer, knights excelsior, hallowed knights, astral templars and celestial vindicators . I could tell you nothing about then but their names and the fact that nr 6 purged vindicarum that one time. I also see less deviation from the main colour scheme comparrd to other armies but that's very anecdotal i know.
>>96368438
In theory stormcast should have the more original personalities, on account of them have actually lived life before becoming stormcast, as opposed to child soldier marines. But ig you don't really see that reflected much outside of bl and short stories

Here's how I'd make stormcasts more customizable
>Azyr is under siege, under lockdown. Chaos marines are gonna fuck Stormcast Eternal butt
>Stormcasts not already in Azyr are stuck in whatever realm they're currently in and have to adapt to the area and culture and endure long enough for Azyr to reopen
>From this Seven Prima- I mean Storm Emperors arise to take control of the situation, each with preferred tactics and gear
>Stormcasts must now grapple with being less eternal than previously thought while Archaeon has fun with his forever war

>>96368089
>Just play what you like and proxy it until it works
Holy mother of sovl
I kneel

>>96368361
>even a stiff like you can probably still name half of them.
Well, as a different stiff here I don't even know what the gold&blue posterboys are called. I do remember the Lions of Sigmar since they were just mentioned above and... that's it.

>>96368553
>I'm specifically comparing to them marines where even a sloptuber addict who's never even set foot in a gw store could name all your first founding chapters and a few of the more relevant succesors
To be fair that's mostly due to 40k revolving around marines to an absurd degree, whereas that's really not the case with stormcast. They're the intro faction and the posterboys to lure in children and their moms but aside from that they don't have their fists around the game like marines do. I think if you were to ask 40k players to name some drukhari cabals or SoB orders you'd get a lot of blank stares too.

>>96368574
Sounds decent, though a single siege sounds like a bit too short of a time period for it. So I'll present my own idea, which probably isn't any better but it's mine: we know the stormcast are getting worn out by repeated reforgings. So to alleviate that problem a bit, send them out into the realms to settle in a bit, make new memories, have some minor everyday emotional events, and just generally regrow their humanity a touch while they also get a refresher on what's at stake all said and done. Adopting facets of local culture would seem to come naturally, and would likely also be encouraged.

>>96368574
>dark imperium: aos edition
We're never escaping the 40k knockoff allegations with that but fuck it sounds interesting. Can make stormie minis a bit more interesting now too. Would also finally pull azyr out of the cuckshed and into the narrative

>>96368644
It's a Super Duper Siege so it takes longer. The narrative would pick up after about 2 years into the 7 day conflict

>>96368574
Stormcasts are already as customisable if not more customisable than marines, fluffwise.
It's just that the models plain like marines are because marines have a sacred cow design made 40 years ago.

>>96368790
>Stormcasts are already as customisable if not more customisable than marines
how

>>96368800
They're just magical electric people, you can put whatever armor on them, they're not like magically melded to it or anything.

>>96369056
I'll never understand the skull beard iconography

>>96369082
Bearded face = Sigmar
Bearded skull = Sigmar, but in a mood

>>96368690
A good cultural diversification sounds like a matter of decades to me... But yeah, I'm nitpicking.

>>96369072
Note in the post he replied to: "fluffwise".
Though that said, they're harder in terms of modelling too as there's a lot of existing iconography to remove/cover up in order to get a blank slate, whereas the basic marine model come as quite blank slates as default.

>>96369131
fair, and weirdly enough the fatcasts felt like they had more variance than the new guys. I think mostly because all the various random spikes, helmets, and bullshit taped to their armor. I feel like the new guys while stream lined all look a bit samey. (Except maybe the big hammer guys with the giant mono-shoulder)

>>96367695
>spawn of chotec
Why the change from a hunting pack to a single Salamander? Seems odd.

How is a mostly Tzaangor army?

>>96369173
>fair, and weirdly enough the fatcasts felt like they had more variance than the new guys
I guess it helped that fatcast had 3 different incarnations, standard, vanguard and sacrosanct. But yeah i see what you mean.
>>96369241
They've always been a singular salamander anon, you've been playing too much tw: wh ;)

Any suggestions on Chorf third-party sculpts?

>>96369241
Hunting Pack is the pack of skinks around it, not a pack of Salamanders.

>>96369082
Grungi and his smiths are the ones designing all the gear and you know how short men like their beards

>>96369263
https://youtu.be/c3dmdnDzAV8?feature=shared&t=1049

>>96367548
>MY PRONOUNS ARE FEE/FI/FO/FUM

>>96369317
Fabelzel and tortuga bay seem to be the most common suggestions. The former for classic oldhammer chorfs and the latter for more forgeworld/total war inspired designs. Maybe check /wfg/, they're more experienced with this stuff.

>Collegiate Arcane
Is it supposed to be Collegium Arcane?

>>96369429
It's a starfish not hair D:

>>96368800
They can be drawn from a lot of different cultures and time periods of the history of the setting, and this includes the possibility of their own patron entities in addition to sigmar.
Each one is potentially a hero with a lifetime worth of heroics even before being made into a sigmarine.
The stormcasts have been overly active in all corners of the realms and have been involved in all narratives, so your dudes may have participated in any combination of events, including the founding of the cities, and in many cases they're solidly ruling or overseeing said settlements.
The reforging of each individual can have quirks or flaws that can be as minor or wild as the narrative demands, and the entire stormhost can share a discreet and unique magical quirk/flaw too.
The immortality of the sigmarines can also be used to detail defeats that are utterly crushing, as well as having permanent deaths that have an added gravitas.
Unlike with marines, you can even have reformed chaotics, and you can have interactions with other factions that aren't "X bashed Y in Z place in year W", including normally sworn enemies.

>>96369317
It depends on the style you're after and whether you're alright with 3d printing.

>>96367759
Snibbity snab, you will kneel before the crab

>>96369789
Snibbidy snab, dis gills the grab

>>96367752
>he doesn't know
You're asking to get snibbed

>>96369797
Release my crodie

Can someone please toss me a link to a mega or something full of all the Warcry releases? I know about Warcrier, but I'm looking to read the lore and just generally dive into the rules.

>>96369056
>librarian in chaos city
>sperged out and rioted
>instantly put down like a dog
>sigmar likes her energy and reforges her
>is a shit fighter
>reforges badly
>shuffled off to another chamber where she bashfully tries to redeem herself
Fucking moe. "Incompetent femcast trying her best" has incredible waifu potential if GW only knew how to capitalize.

>>96369835

N please, I posted it in the GWSG thread after you asked

>>96365376

>>96369859
faildaughters really appeal to the warhammer fanbase huh

>>96369868
Didn't see that for some reason, thank you anon <3

I wonder if people would even care if the double turn was snuffed

>>96369874
In settings where named characters tend to be superlative the fuckups really stand out. Usually this is unintentional, like with Abbadon or Belakor, who are supposed to be utter arch-evil badasses, but whose history has earned them a certain reputation among fans. Doing it deliberately has a lot of room for exploration.

Plus, honestly, it fits with the Stormcast and helps distinguish them from Space Marines. Sigmar is recruiting off vibes, not from a small group of children who have survived a deadly gauntlet of tests and who may yet reject organ implants. Not everybody with a noble soul is going to reforge into a great warrior, but you gotta find something to do with them, you can't just take them out back, pop them as a heretic and harvest their geneseed.

>>96369954
The people that defend the double turn are the same people who defend any and all decisions gw takes, so they would fall in line pretty quickly.

>>96369965
I think a chamber of failcasts who have support roles instead of big frontliners would be nice, like they're the cleanup crew who finish off stragglers and help rebuild sieged locations.

>>96370028
Why would you waste invaluable cosmic powers to create semidivine immortal warriors to carry out something like that?

>>96369968
the fucked up thing is the double turn guy usually loses anyways because you lose out on points. It just feels like absolute shit for the other guy because you have to sit there and get your dick smashed in. I have won when the other guy takes the double turn nearly every time.

>>96369968
If it was properly balanced it would be fine. I think something like you score zero victory points that turn and your opponent scores double would maybe make it ok

>>96370036
Ask Sigmar

>>96370036
Sacrosanct Chamber? Based lorelet

>>96370036
I mean, Sigmar is still kinda dumb. Like, he's still the same stupid barbarian god that he was before, just kinda ascended.

>>96370085
They don't do that, they have their own mystic duty that's not doable by normal people.

>>96369965
>In settings where named characters tend to be superlative the fuckups really stand out. Usually this is unintentional, like with Abbadon or Belakor, who are supposed to be utter arch-evil badasses, but whose history has earned them a certain reputation among fans
This is why I liked Thanquol from the old world.
When he wasn't fucking his own plans up, out of chaos crack induced paranoia, he was actually a scary sorcerer.

>>96369965
I think you're on to something here, bit of a break from the hypercompetent badasses (supposedly) we're used to. I can't help but like the interpretation of yin-yin as a fuckup for example (even though that's more fancanon than official really).
>>96370028
Support stormcast are cool but I wouldnt make those sort of characters like one dedicated force if you get what I mean, kind of takes away from the narrative potential imo.

>>96370096
They're just academic researchers

>>96370096
Lord Ordinators? They're architect engineers

>>96370259
No, they're not just that, their main point is helping with the reforging process

>>96370265
They're also astromancers and involved in sieges

>>96370265
>lord ordinators
Take me back. Malign portents was peak aos hype.
Also I just realised they got rid of them and the celestar ballista. Do stormcast have no artillery now?

>>96370342
>Do stormcast have no artillery now?
They have dudes and monsters with ranged attacks. But no ballistae.

>>96370113
>When he wasn't fucking his own plans up, out of chaos crack induced paranoia, he was actually a scary sorcerer.
It's the Skeletor factor. Bumbling villains with immense power who occasionally lock in are inherently appealing.

>>96370120
Exactly. "Failcast-chan's Daily Life" would be a great way to explore the universe following an endearing character while letting the actual competent characters flex by upstaging her. When everybody is badass it's a lot harder to stand out.

>>96370342
Yeah, the Malign hype was definitely the peak of the setting. It's so embarrassing they rehash it every edition without any effort
>what if instead of the threat of inevitable entropy undermining the victories over Chaos we had... beastly thoughts... Skaven
Everything was given some love, fucking Spiderfang and Bonesplitterz shorts that stick with you. Harbingers teasing new expansions, new campaign books, new modular terrain... 3rd and 4th are so soulless
>How about we just tease expansions in lit then squat the related armies instead XD
>How about an incomplete static terrain set built for 40k tournament specifications

>>96370420
I'm glad I nabbed my fuckin' Astromancers Vane, this thing is so god damn sick even if it was just reprinted for malign portents.

>>96370384
you're basically describing gotrek and felix, it's just instead felix has tits and is 8 feet tall. So honestly pretty good.

>One of the unopened chambers is the Logister
>It could easily be filled with failcasts who act as LOGISTICS SPECIALISTS for Sigmar rather than hammers for the realms' nails

>>96370384
When are we getting an isekai for "Reborn In Another World But Now I'm a Girl and a 9 Foot Tall Muscle Mommy?!"

>>96370342
I miss the other version of this that had the female operator

>>96370455
Other people don't remain failures forever, they get trained.

>>96369056
> Le epic BASH LE FASH fan fic self insert
I cringed so hard I hurt my neck
> Standard issue side cut
I cringed again and hurt the other side of my neck

>>96370532
You will not be missed

>>96370503
Failed Stormcast are put in a care home and then decapitated shortly thereafter
The rest are locked up

>>96370551
Troon detected

I like where these are going, and after i nail down my scheme they'll go a lot faster but without my airbrush i'm rugratting doing white.

>>96370666
Going for a birch or winter theme?

>>96370637
cope

>>96370682
yeah i'm trying to do a like arcane white theme. Like Crystalsong foresty. I primed them grey, painted it in bright neutral grey, then did the raised portions in white blue, washed the lower places with pale's blue.

>>96370461
I isekaied into a city full of sexy elves!
BUT they're all dominatrixes!!!

>>96370461
>>96370729
we must transition for Morathi
we must return to harkuron

>>96370781
>>96370804
The AoS to trans pipelines is real

Should I make one of these for the Helsmiths? I think I should wait until after the book comes out so I understand the lore first.

>>96370781
No, we must get absolutely jacked as fuck to better serve.

>>96370854
Only for fags.

>>96370804
Post the fixed one I made, not this original blunder of mine

>>96370913
Definitely wait a bit.

>>96370913
You got more of these?

>>96370927
Morathi hates men, you are not a loyal follower

>>96370532
Her whole lore is she sucks at her job

>>96370968
Trans identified men are still men

>>96370976
sister you are not making it to har kuron

>>96370968
She loves men, to dominate.

>>96370978
She would not accept any Troon freaks, only the most muscular and physically imposing men are fit to serve

>>96371042
>Inb4 the battletome mentions some male aelves can magically transition to better serve their god

>>96371070
40k moment

>>96371070
You guys gotta stop obsessing over this shit you probably somehow think about it more than they do

>>96370952
Yes, name your faction

>>96371133
You got any KB, IDK, or KO?

>>96371133
Sylvaneth

>>96371133
CoS please

>>96371146
Here
>>96371145
I can only post one image at a time

>>96371133
Amazing.
>>96371145
Seconding IDK since you already did LRL.

>>96371145
>>96371168
The I Don't Knows, I put less effort in some of these than others, but it was a fun project.

>>96371133
FEC!

>>96371145
Finally ur dorfs

>>96371179
Could definitely do a "My ancestor..." with the shark and Skycutter.
Thanks.

>>96371184
Kinda regret the Brettonian skeleton but egg

I dont actually know where to get started with duaradin lore in aos. The only thing I really only appreciated about them in warhammer as that tww had the ghost dwarves which seemed unique.

>>96371070
Fake news

>>96371133
Soulblight and Seraphon

>>96370952
Swampies

>>96370952
Ironjawz

>>96371211
Core book.
Battle tomes

>>96370952
And the best

>>96371211
There are three Durardin factions + one coming in the future.

The most generic ones are the Dispossessed. They're allied to the Citites of Sigmar and play like classical dwarves; advanced tech, tight formations, the works. There's not much.

The Fyreslayers are gold-obsessives who worship the god Grimnir, who's currently shattered and they're seeking to build him. They all look like slayers, which if often a mark against them, but if you like slayers they're basically an entire society of those + lava monsters.

The Kharadron Overlords are atheistic engineers who control transit networks and mercenary companies. The Mortal Realms are cosmically massive so their tech basically fuels the factions of Order.

The Helsmiths of Hashut (who might be Tzeentch in disguise, we don't know yet) are Chaos Duardin (most likely) who worship an evil god of industry and pollution. They're basically Captain Planet villains.

Gotrek is technically a Fyreslayer unit, but he can be used with any Order army and he's an entire story. The TL;DR is that he's a hero from Fantasy whose soul (aka marketability) was so great that it survived into AoS and he's famous for being a damn blender who can survive most charges.

>>96371242
The Soulblight are one of the most varied armies in the game so I didn't really scratch the surface with them.

>>96367564
I would just look at these magnificent model that could be updated.

Given what factions have most recently gotten releases, what's most likely to be on the next roadmap? I hate knowing nothing.

>>96371242
The Seraphon (aka Lizardmen 2 Scalie Boogaloo) are pretty basic, the only real variety is skinks vs saurus so I think I got both down well

>>96371282
You could honestly get two out of them between all the different vampire types and the bone kingdoms. I love intra-faction diversity

>>96371270
Can we count Dispossesed still? Aren’t those on the beast way any day?

>>96371286
I know nothing and all my opinions get me yelled at, but I think the next faction is certainly either going to be a Death or Destruction faction because those two are the tightest Grand Alliances (each only have one god) and they're tied for the smallest GA's. Chaos and Order got loads of armies, while the D's are languishing with four each.

My bet is some sort of decay/rust based army for Death and some sort of Amazonian army for Destruction.

Either that or a Beastmen revamp.
>>96371297
They still have rules, their models just aren't being sold. I think for 5th edition Cities will get some elves and dwarves back, and the current Dark Elf lines will be moved to The Old World for its 2nd edition.

Also, here's my Gloomspite thing.

>>96371297
They and the dark elves are unlikely to survive the battletome. They're not even in the online shop so that should tell you what you need to know

>>96371327
There's actually a bunch of old metal dark elves from fantasy at my FLGS that someone sold. Are any of those worth picking up? (they're like new in box too)

>>96371326
Post cities

>>96371286
The most rumors I've heard are for CoS or Nurgle after chorfs.

>Dispossesed, by far the best and more appealing Dwarf flavor that could be easily expanded into “Generic Dwarfs” will die for Fantashit
This is truly the worst timeline

>>96371369
Nah I think they'll be reintroduced to AoS in a few years.

>>96371337
Ok now do it again but with freeguild troops jakpointing at an oldhammer skaven model (this is the greatest enemy of mankind (for now (an entire continent got telefragged)))

>>96371369
>Dispossesed, by far the best and more appealing Dwarf flavor
Just play old world already.

I don't get why they don't just make a few token elf/dwarf units for modern CoS
Like it's not a Heraclean task to just sculpt a box or two each of them in Dawnbringer garb

>>96371133
Cities of Sigmar

>>96371326
I don't think Death necessarily needs a new faction. I would prefer the existing factions to be expanded. Especially Soulblight since it's the most varied in the types of guys that can exist. And I think "mad science" undead is too narrow to be it's own thing. Or too narrow to do it well anyway. Nighthaunt needs those haunted armors too.

>>96371488
We keep comin' back to this anon!

Personally I'd just enjoy nighthaunt just not having 3 units that all fit the niche of "Melee guy but slightly better than your chaff" that all basically do the same shit.

Range expansion autism:
>IDK
Elite infantry like palace guards types. Elite 5 man heavier infantry equivalent to Bladelords with some kinda fishy elf gimmick.
>Fyreslayers
Small magmadroth/fire lizard cavalry. 3 man units akin to Aggradons. Have decent short range flame shooter and devastating charge but they're a little om the slower side.
>Night Haunt
I wanna see some possessed suits of armor. Big Mace shit brick house tower knights with ghostly spirits. Faster than expected but have a 3+ save and 3 or more sounds but have 0 mw defense.
>OBR
Fuck huge construct or Construct with great bows. Similar to Kurnoth hunters with bows but get all the death benefits and good rend.
>KO
Honestly I'd say some kind of ur gold cracked out front liners with pocket pistols or something.
>IJ
Big wizard of gorkamorka on some more lithe but still scary wyvern

Thats all I got while I take a dump

>>96371530
>OBR
Something like a bone titan. The equivalent of a Mega Gargant.
>Serpahon
Some FUCKING SAUROPODS
>Soulblight
I think an elite bodyguard unit would be cool. Something above Barrow Guard that serve as a Wight King's personal retinue

>>96371580
>SAUROPODS
Man how has this not been done yet

>>96371530
I mean there's quite nice evidence of giant archers being sick as fuck. Ushabti fit the general theme as well of arrows the size of a man slamming into you.

NH I would love more elite stuff, spooky mansion styled haunted objects or some horrifying wendigo styled feral ghosts

Fyre slayer ghosts

>>96370461
Based marisaposter. We need some futa muscle mommy DOK ladies to keep the snatched hoes in line

>>96371605
You know NH doesn't have a like big monster right? The biggest thing it has is the coach and that's not really built for massive melee combat right? A big ass spooky ghost thing crawling on its hands and feet like a wendigo monster thing would be real cool

>>96371645
Actually, a big horrific amalgamation ghost would be rad. I thought of the really big Rod Reiss titan from AoT, how it crawls desperately and falls under its own weight. Just a giant tormented ghost blob desperately crawling forward looking for some kind of relief

>>96371530
>DoK
Khinerai hero
Heavily armoured Melusai

>>96371699
I will always vote yes to more snake women.
>>96371689
Could be equally horrific and cool. What were those crawling half zombie half ghost things from fantasy? Mornghohls? Not what you are talking about but those could be cool redesigned for aos

>>96371699
>Heavily armoured Melusai
Why not just heavily muscled snake ladies

>>96371689
More southeast asian styled ghost stuff? Like those massive fuckoff ghosts the size of trees with mouths the size of pinholes. I feel like that type of thing fits Nagash's level of dickery.

>>96371626
There's only one waifu for me from SF anon.

>>96371790
Based Morathi and Dom appreciator.

>>96371772
Not into the monster girl stuff so much, more into the femdom side. Would love for them to lean into it more. Have a unit of leathmen as chaff with a witch elf leader who just whips them

How do Scathborn reproduce? Asking for a friend

>>96371825
Breeding pits

>>96371828
who does the breeding? My friend is full of questions, ha ha

>>96371825
Human men are thrown into the breeding pits where they fall prey to the Scãthborn.
While some are excited by this tantalising prospect, they soon become horrified when they realise that their pleasure is of no concern, solely extraction of their seed. A task which the Scãthborn relish finding ways of doing so humiliatingly whilst also depriving men of any pleasure.

>>96371820
And no one will ever know which anon I am.

>>96371832
Heehee. Your friend's a curious fellow anon

Orcs, Stormcast, Ossiarch ect all use spears but the one guys who would make the most sense don't use them

>>96371849
They don't even have uniform gear what did you expect

>>96371849
I feel like there's a small bit we're not taking into account, aren't these basically just conscripted peasants? That's why they don't match and all look like massive jobbers. I feel like freeguild needs some fancier elite guys to kinda set apart from the steelhelms.

>>96370342
IMO Stormcast shouldn't have warmachines. Imagine putting divinely reforged heroes behind this thing

>>96371868
What if that hero was a really good artillery operator in their past life

>>96371868
Don't they have the magical equivilqnt of grenade launchers and machine guns?

>>96371840
Sauce?

>>96371990
IDK maybe if it was one Stormcast overseeing human auxiliary crew I'd be okay with it

>>96372004
I miss the Lord Ordinator buffing any Order war machine unit he stood near

>>96371999
Har Kuron breeding pits on a Thursday

>>96372008
I miss coalitions. Tempest Eye and Living City where peak

Is this a hot take? 4th ed has the best core rules to date. That being said 2nd ed Battletomes >> 4th ed battletomes and 4th is currently being carried by Scourge of Ghyran

>>96372074
The FEC book being as good as it is gives me hope.

>>96371335
>Post cities

>>96371866
Yeah but you'd probably give your conscripts spears because they're cheaper to manufacture and easier to train with

>>96371849
>guys who would make the most sense
It doesn't makes sense for them use spears.

easier to make, easier to learn how to use, more reach so regular as humans can keep their distance from huge armoured orcs

>>96371868
Having centuries worth of military physics in your pocket is good actually

>>96372166
They’re crusading attackers not defenders. They’re their to retake not hold
>but
Yeah thematic modelling not military autism

>>96372110
Go back to /v/

Has there been any word of the deathrattle spearhead? I know they mentioned it with the army box awhile back, but I haven't heard or seen anything about it since.

>>96372260
>Fortress-city Defenders
Sounds like defending to me anon

>>96372327
>Dawnbringer Crusade
Checkmate

>>96372342
Not my dudes, so I want spears
Actually I've gotten absolutely fucking thrashed every time I've played it, should I try the extra range formation instead? It does mean I have to deploy behind terrain with my guys and miss a turn of shooting though.

kinda miss the old liberator shields

>>96372342
isn't the main theme of the army entrenched formations?

>>96372350
Entrenched gunlines with advancing infantry

>>96372110
Superior city

Please when Dark Elves get booted from AOS take these with you

Guys, does anyone have the PDF of the 4th edition of Gloomspite Gitz?

>>96372751
Jesus christ what is wrong with those horses

>>96372349
I agree, it's the only part of fatcast I prefer.
>>96372836
They witnessed the scathborn breeding pits

>>96372751
I think they're meant to be a reference to Mares of Diomeds/ Mares of Thrace. Meat eating horses from Greek Mytholgy. Dark Elves have a greek myth thing going on for some reason

>>96372751
God they're awful. Unfortunately I have a unit of them

>>96372836
methamphetamines

DoK players universally disgust me

>>96372992
Maybe if you weren't a fat slob and also lifted and high T you would be normal too and not hate/be jealous of us

>>96367776
To be fair Namari are also just elves on foot, give them a crab to footslog with

>>96373061
>Maybe if you weren't a fat slob and also lifted and high T you would be normal too
You get to hear this often, I guess.

>>96367785
>The Blooded Dawn
Does that count as child soldiers?

>>96367785
For me it's the radiant suns of sigmar

>>96373061
but being an abnormal fat slob is the prerequisite for being a dokfag

who else would want to get fucked in the ass by a strap on or a tranny like >>96370804 >>96372690 ?

>>96373061
catty, are you behind on your hormones or something?

any nighthaunt pdf gigachads about ?

>>96373360
Doesn't release until the 30th so we only have rules
https://files dot fm/u/eapp85rtcz

>>96373061
I just find them annoying. They make me not want to discuss DoK in /aosg/ because I know it will make them shit up the thread more than they usually do. They just suck.

>>96373392
yeah, we should have a comfy server that's trans only instead
morathi haters can DIE

>>96370927
what do you use to generate this beautiful ai art of my goddess and can you prompt bbc cuck porn with it?

Since gw seems keen on giving everyone their spells and terrain, does anyone know which factions still need one or both ? I know seraphon don't have their own spells for example.

>>96373551
Currently, they're mostly a free advantage. Soon they'll be pointed and then it's a choice

>>96370927
I worry hrt will hinder my gains. I'm gaining muscle but it was easier before Morathi transformed me

>>96371133
Is there any for Khorne or Slaves to Darkness?

>>96370854
it's barely a pipeline, more like a venn diagram that is almost a perfect circle

>>96373551
>lizards: spells
>cities: spells and terrain
>khaine: terrain
>idoneth: spells (the incarnate is more like a new unit?)
>kharads: terrain (the endrin stuff is more like spells?)

>ghosts: terrain (reused sbgl shit doesn't count any more than reused whfb shit counted for vampires)

>ogres: spells
>giants: spells and terrain

>nurgle: spells
>tzeent: terrain
>hashut: spells and terrain

>>96373589
This, always refuse to play against DoK players. Pretend the army doesn't exist. IDK are nu-delfs anyway

>>96373597
thanks anon. I'd say the kharadron one is very clearly terrain, maybe a bit more interactive to make up for them not having spells. Idk incarnate is a bit of a grey area but looks more like a spell to me.

>>96373597
>>lizards: spells
wind incarnate via coatl
>>cities: spells and terrain
cogfort and gargolyan swarms
>>khaine: terrain
two-sided statue of morathi and malerion
>>idoneth: spells (the incarnate is more like a new unit?)
no spells
>>kharads: terrain (the endrin stuff is more like spells?)
no terrain
>>ghosts: terrain (reused sbgl shit doesn't count any more than reused whfb shit counted for vampires)
no other terrain
>>ogres: spells
ice stalagmites, lesser maws, floating ingredients
>>giants: spells and terrain
lol, no
>>nurgle: spells
erupting ground pustules, summoned worm, cloud of fug
>>tzeent: terrain
silver tower
>>hashut: spells and terrain
kdaii unbound, demonic chains, rune of hashut, and ziggurat temple furnace

>>96373630
The KO one is basically a terrain piece that summons spells, so it's essentially both. The IDK incarnate is clearly a spell, and IDK already have terrain in any case.

>>96372836
Evil

>>96372836
nothing? they're noble steads of Order

>>96373365
apparently the points leaked and people are lot less optimistic now.

grimghast reapers, harridans, and BGR up to 210, the points were so inflated it completely wiped out any survivability from the extra health, GGR's are 60pts more expensive per 10. characters and units who's wounds didnt change seem to remain the same points they are currently. black coach went down 10. awlrach is the same points despite being nerfed into the ground.

stay strong sheetbros

>Briardark features regular Humans with Gryphound pets
I really wish they were available for CoS but muh mudcore shitbulls, gotta be different from WHF! Gotta be 40k

>>96373647
>cogfort and gargolyan swarms
>mfw killing a demigod with a horde of freaky little buggers

>>96373687
AoSCoach casually drops points while talking through the book because he's a retard. He opens with the typical "NDA, can't tell you guys" then when discussing a warscroll he'll blurt then out anyway

>>96373695
Forgot my face
>>96373690
1. That's straight up a gryphon
2. Gargolyans can look like that I think

>>96373690
just use the hounds as pets. or as that one warcry band.
That being said I dont think fantasy ever really used em in fluff or pets or what not. Im pretty sure that pic you have is just fan art.

>>96373690
>gotta be different from WHF!
the reasoning was actually
>gotta be different from SCE!

>>96373647
>wind incarnate
would be kino
>cogfort
It's been hyped for so long I feel like it'd be a bit disappointing if it was terrain. Like how the idoneth incarnate would've had a better reception if it was a normal unit.
>giant terrain/spells
Someone on here once suggested a giant boulder the giants can kick around the board to do damage. It sounded fun.
>>96373690
where's this art from, it's pretty cute. Since it has wings, is it a juvenile griffin? Either way I think gryph-hounds are an aos only thing, don't think whf ever had those. Although gryphhounds are basically small demigryphs anyway.

>>96373699
he knows no GW rep is actually going to sit there and comb through the video listening for NDA breaks, so as long as he isnt posting photos, slides or discussing them in the first 30 seconds of the vid, he's probably safe just due to sheer lack of willpower on GWs part to dedicate a guy to listening to his rambling

>>96373690
>gotta be different from WHF!
what?

I want more gargs that is all

>>96373711
General kit came with a lil griffon

>>96373724
arts from the watermark thats ON THE FUCKING BOTTOM YOU IMBECILE

>>96373738
I always forget NH have a weird Mexican inspiration for a few kits, feels like an aborted concept

>>96373749
I still kinda see night haunt as the dantes inferno faction

>>96373749
flowers on macabre stuff aren't a mexican inspiration

>>96373738
this artwork inlcuded botshit in its making

>>96373777
skaven

>>96373690
Total shitbull death and all that but letting them maul goblins seems like a decent purpose for them.

>>96373764
look into Santa Muerte

>>96373777
Bad but not AI

>>96373749
I guess, with the roses and stuff? But like the other anon said I don't think that's a mexican only thing. Maybe if they had painted skulls of something.

>>96373825
I know what it is, I'm telling you that not every instance of flowers on macabre stuff is a reference to the mexicans' use of flowers on macabre stuff.

>>96373837
I've always seen people celebrating their lady death cult with over sexualisation using corsets and veils like the banshees, then there's the fact Olynder is a lady of death with roses
AoS was always the multicultural push for WHF until TOW introduced Cathay. Makes sense they'd take inspiration from weird Mexican stuff

pretty sure roses and skulls is about the most basic foundation of goth aesthetics

>>96373862
yeah, but anon is schizophrenic so things have to be directly connected, no other possibility exists.

Either way, Olynder and the other female units are jarring next to the consistent generic medieval ghosts following Kurdoss' inspiration

>>96373860
Idk flowers and death are a fairly common association around the world, it's not overtly mexican I think. Remember too that gw is british so they're not as familiar with mexican cultural items as americans are.
As for aos being more multicultural, I agree but maybe not in the way you think. Aos has gone out of its way to make their factions less 1 to 1 adaptations of historical cultures, and one of the ways they do that is by combining multiple into one. Lumineth have both east asian and ancient greek inspirations, ossiarchs are both samurais and roman legionaries etc.

>>96373904
High Elves were not Grecian, though, they were Norman Melnibonians. Dwarves were Anglo Saxons and so on. WHF was strictly inspired by the knowledge of a few Brits.
Now Fyreslayers have a SEA inspiration and LRL have Bonsai.

So this is the level? Flowers on tombs=Mexican? Lmao

>>96373944
>High Elves were not Grecian
They had some greek references too, par of the course of being the atlanteans of your setting.

>>96373612
im out here tryna find a DoK gf.

>>96373944
>Now Fyreslayers have a SEA inspiration
No, they don't, I already told you that the asian artist didn't work as concept artist, let alone sculptor, at the time the slayers were made, he was just an illustrator, he worked to illustrated what the studio produced, any random asian tidbit he might have put into his artworks are not actually on the models.

>>96373886
So you're saying GW needs to make the regular Nighthaunt models sexier?

>>96373886
No, they aren't jarring, they're perfectly normal depictions of banshees next to perfectly normal depictions of other ghosts.

>>96373962
Magmadroths look like SEA temple statues.
If you mean Kevin Chin, he was the chief Dwarf artist internally and Blanche recruited him. I'm not sure they've ever stated that how strict the roles were - especially when he crossed over thereafter and especially when he was the one guy playing a Fyreslayer army internally as far as early WD shows.
>Yeah, they totally fired all their artists for six months until the concept artists and sculptors caught up when AoS was in development
I'm sure it was more collaborative then and he did shift roles later so

Guys....I think I might like my new army that I have like 1.2k of more than my 3k one...

>>96373978
>NOOOOO DON'T NOTICE THAT 20 KITS COHESIVELY FOLLOW A THEME AND 4 DON'T
You okay, pal? I like the division but c'mon it's clearly there and clearly every new release has been Kurdoss adjacent more than Olynder

>>96373997
>Magmadroths look like SEA temple statues.
No, they don't.
>he was the chief Dwarf artist internally
illustrator, not concept artist, he only began working as that recently.
>especially when he was the one guy playing a Fyreslayer army internally as far as early WD shows.
AFTER the army was made, he had no hand in its making, there's no asian element in the army.

>>96373957
how big does her cock have to be?

>>96373962
>>96373997
Nta but yeah magmadroths have always read a bit asian to me, but my knowledge is entirely surface level so I could be imagining thing.

>>96374021
Sure, man, but source? It's speculation either way but no, Magmadroths do look like SEA dragons regardless of how they got there

If they want to expand on NH why not add an Spectral Dragon? Or a new Mournghul less ghoulish? Or a Mortis Engine equivalent?

>>96374011
the banshees ARE cohesive with the other ghosts, retard, they don't become suddenly unfitting because they're not painted black, these archetypes of ghosts have been paired since the start of warhammer and sure as hell aren't some new schizophrenic reference to mexico.

would be really embarrassing if kevin chin drew a dozen dragon doodles for the 8e Dwarf book that look reminiscent of Fyreslayers or something

>>96374066
Nighthaunt are Knights, Executioners, Scribes, Crossbowmen, Kings, peasant rabble, etc
and
corset wearing thots
Real cohesive.

>>96373749
>Mexican
They're Spanish. Spain isn't a part of Mexico

>>96374029
>>96374029
he speaks about his roles in the first minutes
https://youtu.be/xgkAlKYFcx8?t=6s

you don't have a good memory of what a magmadroth looks like, unless you think having a nasal horn is enough

>>96374104
Yeah, I see it too. Usually dragons aren't so pointed and decorative in western art

got a question for the GSG bros out there.
What does a moonclan only GSG army look like? I'm talking like stabbas, shootas, fanatics and foot heroes? Do you run the troggs and monsters anyway? My options are either that or running lots of squig herds, a Mangler squig or two, and then squig riders.

Does GSG run a lot of stuff outside their chosen battle formation? Like would they run many or any troggs in a Squigalanche formation or does it depend on the list? I really don't like the spiderfang or gitmob part of the army. I like trogs but not as much as the squigs or pure goblin subfactions. I got a printer so price isnt' an issue and there are some really nice sculpts online, but it's intimidating to paint and carry all those tiny dudes (any print all those bases)

>>96374077
Nightahunts are ghosts, grim reapers are ghosts, banshees are ghosts, chain rattling bedsheets are ghosts
It's not difficult, anon

Next you'll tell me damsels couldn't possibly fit an army of knights

>>96374077
I mean the tomb banshee could just get a skull face or little... spooky cowl thingy the myrnmournes have. Realistically Tomb banshee and myrnmournes are basically the same fuckin' thing just one has a spooky bedsheet ghost look vs hair and a face.

>>96374119
the corsets come from the tomb banshee and renaissance stylings of vampire counts, but nighthaunt are otherwise late middle ages

Don't GW have an explicit subfaction division for the female ghost shit?

>>96374112
i dont have a dog in this fight, but lots of age of sigmar armies draw their inspiration from multiple cultures. mono culture aesthetics are more of a whfb thing

>>96374139
>the corsets are where the cooties are

>>96374112
Fyreslayers originate in the Slayer Grimnir cult Gotrek met at the end of WHF and they wore togas.
Fyreslayers have Greek helms/plums and pop culture Spartan nudity. >>96374147

>>96374104
The horns on his head and the spines were the main things that lead me to that connection. Those might just be there to evoke the flame motif but it might be a more deliberate connection. Idk what to tell you anon I'm not even saying that's actually what's happening I'm just saying how I interpreted things. I also have no idea who this kevin chin guy is, that was another anon.
>>96374117
Mono moonclan seems like an uphill battle, you're going to want some rockguts or squig herds at least, ideally some bounderz too.

>>96374115
those points and decorations are horns, scales and fins that have been present on various dragon depictions all along
dragons in modern fantasy artworks got more and more literally edgy and decorated as a result of paleoart giving quite some angular reconstructions of dinosaur skulls and better and better real life references for how scales work

>>96373944
LRL also have geta, sashimono, and some sort of yi-fu or cheongsam type suit under the armor. I’m sure there’s more stuff I’m missing, but I love seeing the little cultural influences melded together to make something new compared to “Vikings but evil” or “this army is the French, but with people”.

>>96374153
Helmets...

>>96374117
I feel like ironically moonclan are the worst part of gitz, you've got a bunch of guys but that's about it. Even having "oops all squig herds" would probably be better than all grots.

You want some other options because of the bad moon swapping phases and being mono-type leaves you out to dry like 4/5ths of the time.

Nothing to derail a thread more than wh*tes arguing over whether whores in corsets could possibly exist in a medieval bedsheets society and people who think a fucking lizard is SEA because they want to discuss their thinly veiled racism towards 1 Asian artist. It's not even Amerifat west coast NEET hours what's going on.

>>96374211
I mean the alternative is Morathi goon-sesh that's been going on for the past 8 hours

>>96374211
>their thinly veiled racism towards 1 Asian artist.
I don't think either of the side has anything against kevin chin, he's hit or miss, but he's a swell artist in my book, I definitely enjoy his works more than many others.
You sure you aren't projecting that part yourself?

>>96374211
>discussing the design inspirations behind a unit is derailment
I'm sorry you're right we should go back to posting morathi pegging images or whatever the fuck it is you want.
Also nobody was even coming close to implying anything racist about kevin chin?

>>96374104

i could definitely see the potential influence, especially in the tail and the wavy spines on the arms and legs

and upon looking at actual historical norse dragon references they tended to be very smooth and snakelike with almost no spines, which bears a resemblance to some of the infantry helmet crests, but not so much the magmadroth norse and european dragons are also predominately winged, while asian dragons tended not to be.

>>96374275
ANON WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? I'M LOSING MY FUCKING MIND AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>96374288
on of the vietnamese dynasties

I prefer this racist shit over Morathi faggotry.

>King
>Knight
>Alchemist
>Scribe
>Crossbowmen royal guard
>Executioner
Do people really argue NH doesn't have a medieval courtly theme?

>>96374328
anon just respond to the god damn posts you're responding to

>>96374305
>Le trung hung
Christ sounds like a pol meme

>kevin chin becomes concept artist
>highly likely he's incharge of Fyreslayers
>newest models are as anglosaxon as they've ever been
hmmmm

30 pushups for Morathi
the men of har kuron will submit to my gock until they scream for Morathi's forgiveness

>>96374347
>>newest models are as anglosaxon as they've ever been
Pretty sure anglosaxons knew how to make pants and weren't repulsive manlets

>>96374369
All the words for clothes come from the Normans so I doubt it

Is there an archive of pdfs for older battletomes anywhere?

>>96374386
Anything in particular?

>>96374383
Wasn't Saxons originally living near Jutland?

I'm trying to find different symbols or something akin to heraldry for the idoneth enclaves but I'm not really finding anything, did gw never bother to come up with it for them? Seems strange as they loved doing that in 1st edition.

>>96373647
Give ogres one more terrain instead
Bonus points if it's gutbuster's, again and pot still remains the better option, again

>>96374331
It's a fantasy setting, adjust your expectations accordingly. But the black coach, grimghast reapers, spirit hosts, pyregheists, harridans and those odd rat/horse/whateveritwas-skull faced guys who just got squatted aren't exactly a brilliant fit for your high medieval castle, either because there's nothing that really connects them to it (and frankly I only went for the low hanging fruit for that part of the list) or because of direct misfits. So that medieval theme gets shaky in a hurry if we don't cherry pick to support it. Meanwhile the theme of "ghosts" is a bit harder to shake.

>>96373647
>cloud of fug

>>96374469
The black coach fits, it has ghosts holding a sword, chalice, etc. It's a warriors coffin?
I'm not saying NH is cohesive but the miniatures themed around Kurdoss are and the quantity of those heavily outweighs the few that do not.

>>96374486
Why did the jutes job so hard

>>96374275
finned tails are nothing new on Warhammer dragons either.
and the references for dragons have expanded massively since the medieval ones, people now have decades of reinterpretations of western dragons that add all sorts of features.

>>96374386
https://files dot fm/u/p2hjvag9e8
still uploading so check in 15 minutes

>>96374486
Ah so it's been angles.

>>96373647
Feels like with this stupid order-larping fluff for the HoH there's little chance of getting K'daai or anything else outwardly daemonic

>>96374699
aren't kdaai captured/bound daemons? seems perfectly on-brand for nuchorfs

>>96373699
he can say the points he can't show the document.

>>96374776
I really don't know what the hell is on-brand for them honestly
I wish that they would have just played them straight as "chaos dwarfs" and not done this weird subversive shit where they don't see themselves as a chaos faction (despite being repeatedly called "chaos-worshiping duardin" previously) and don't like hammers (even though they use hammers)

>>96374593
Thanks, I needed some colorscheme inspiration and the early books are such good resources!

>>96373687
I thought they would be 200, obv they were going to price them like chaos warriors. Rip.

>>96374699
their demonic flames they use for energy have little eyes in them, there's remaining sentience clearly, it's just a matter of making some fire monster spell that's only partially bound in chains instead of being completely inside a bull or watermelon.

>>96374024
>how big does her cock have to be?
Nonexistant.
Her strap on? At least as big as my arm.

>>96374457
They haven’t. And it pisses me the fuck off because I’ve been wanting to design my own enclave crest for years. There is only a few Idoneth unique symbols that aren’t just Eltharin runes from WHFB. The old faction symbol, the new faction symbol(seen on dice), the symbol on Volturno’s crest and shield, the Akhelian King’s shield, the symbol on the Ikon’s chest, the Namarti symbol with small variations in the Reavers and Thralls kits, and the more elaborate version of the old faction symbol seen sculpted EVERYWHERE on the army like the top of the turtle and the eel banners. It’s frustrating as fuck that they can’t sit down and come up with some more simple iconography for Idoneth, or other factions for that matter.

>>96375024
That's really disappointing, subfaction iconography goes a long way to fleshing out the faction. Why are they skimping idoneth, can't be that hard to design some symbols in idk minimalist style

>>96374162
They have viking/migrant helms. They look a lot more like the sutton hoo helmet than anything greek.

>>96375119
They are a mixture of influences

>>96375119
>viking/migrant helms

>>96375067
While it affects me the most with Idoneth, they aren’t alone. Most of the factions lack any minimalist style subfaction icons. Many have complex, more artistic ones, but IDK don’t even have those, unless they made some in the new boom, which I doubt. This guy on reddit made some cool ones for the LRL nations that I really like.

>>96375177
And also a cool little environmental art.

>>96375173
They were peaceful settlers!
I should have said Migration period.
>>96375139
Yeah I agree and those helmets are one of them. Names like fyrds are also a giveaway of what GW were aiming for.

Tell me some bad things about FEC, so I don't hyper into spending another 200 bucks and never painting a full unit.

So we have any clue when the quarterly update is due?

>>96375177
>>96375179
SAAR!

>>96375209
nova, end of August then Oct and Nov

>>96373687
Meh this edition already sucked for deathlads because they took away all the fun army rules.

I'm still confused why so many armies return models just as good or better, really sucks the flavor out of playing undead. They really rushed out a change to make sure barrow knights could only do it once per turn army, but cities restoring command corps for d3 models every turn is perfectly fine.

Meanwhile most death factions have some clunky ass mechanic where if you have even one wound on you, you can't restore models. What in the actual fuck. Also be sure to roll that shit d3 roll just in your hero phase to maybe restore a kavalos if they aren't hurt.

Is Nurgle magic worth trading a Lord of Blights or 5 Blightkings out in order to fit in a Sorcerer? For reference the list currently has 2 reinforced blightkings, and Bloab Rotspawned

>>96375179
Top kek.
Literally Indian

>>96375177
>>96375179
Yeah seraphon are another without any real subfaction symbols. They have little artwork at least, but some dinos in stereotypical aztec codex or maya glyphs would be really cool.
I like the lumineth art, have some fyreslayer symbols.

>>96375335
The fyreslayers ones are sick as fuck. Not sure why they haven’t turned those and the Sylvaneth ones into simple vectors.

im new to tabletop games overall but decided to get myself some soulblinght box (i like skelletons and vampires vibe) i hope they are fun to play cuz i dont like to be meta slut in any game.
Tell me is there any website to check cool color schemes? I was thinking about giving them maybe some blue/turquise/magenta glow on a weapon and eyes.

>>96373687
Did a ghost rape someone's mom at GW? Why do they hate Nighthaunt so much?

>>96375335
>Yeah seraphon are another without any real subfaction symbols
we have a lot of symbols inherited from fantasy, plus color and thematic associations with the old ones, and the subfactions so far have characterised themselves pretty well I'd say:
a celestially supercharged saurus from the tail of dracothion will be already instantly different from the red crested lizards of the fangs of sotek, and both will be pretty different from the more tribal looking guys of koatl's klaw or the magitech heavy thunder lizards herders.
They are all simple conversions/paint flairs away, without the need for symbols, especially because with the way gw has changed the shields, and with the longstanding practice of preferring totems to other banners, there aren't that many places to apply symbols with a modicum of consistency and practicality.

>>96375398
Welcome anon, enjoy your skellies. I think they're prettt strong this edition, but I have no idea how fun they are. As for colour schemes there's plenty of inspiration to be found online, but I don't know if they had "official" alternate colour schemes. Those were mostly presented in the 1st edition tomes and I don't think they were a distinct faction yet. Someone might correct me on thay though.
>>96375414
Yeah I know about the constellations, and I agree that seraphon don't really need heraldry to represent their particular faction on their minis. I'm mainly speaking from like a battletome art perspective if that makes sense.

What are the biggest units of respective alliances? (For Destruction it's obviously Mega-gargant.)

>>96375398
Here have the 1ed legions of nagash battletome.
https://files.catbox.moe/y6gjf9.pdf It's got some cool sections on painting lots of different stuff and some neat fluff. This predates contrast paints so there's a lot of new tech we have now that they weren't using before so keep that in mind(skeleton horde contrast paint is amazing). Have fun with your new boners anon

>>96375648
Nagash for Death
Counting discontinued models, the Dread Saurian for Order and Skalok for Chaos

>>96375400
It's worst then malice, the rule writer is an idiot. Id bet money it's the same person who

Made belladammas spell give dire wolves rend but didn't actually work because they're companion weapons.

Gave mortek guard anti charge when it doesn't stack with the faction trait that gives anti charge already. Bonus is ethereal you can't opt out of and also doesn't stack with katakros plus one save.

Gave wight kings exploding 6s that doesn't stack with pretty much every skeleton unit aside death rattle.

Made the necromancers 3 up roll cost a cp as well, with nothing changing about it.

4e is the best.

>>96375729
How many Dragon Ogres (RIP) would have to stand on each other's backs to be as tall as a Mega-gargant?

>>96375179
>>96375303
I was thinking the bottom right looks a bit like sacred Mongol cairns. And the first image looks like it could be inspired by the Shinto practice of hanging rope around rocks as part of purification rituals.

>>96375335
that one towards the bottom right is straight up a samurai helmet.

anyone trying to argue they dont have asian influence at this point is just lookin foolish

>>96375807
*bottom left

>>96375792
This is from minicompare so take it with a grain of salt

did the new points leak?

>>96375807
This one? Tangrim lodge supposedly. From azyr.

so if the war despots card is anything to go by, looks like the daemon fuel on their weapons gives them crit mortals, kinda like the kruleboyz poisons.

>>96375398
For a bone army, my suggestion would be to pick out
>armor material
>cloth color
>how long they've been dead and where
That'll help you settle on what you need for paint. For example, if you want to give them iron armor, red cloth, and they've been dead for a few centuries, then you'll have a very rusted looking dark silver and probably some pretty dirty bone unless the bone has been bleached over time.

Death
>Fleshcraft Menagerie
Frankenstein army whose heirarchy is based on how many different people you're made from. Army gimmick is dropping and picking up corpse parts for buffs
>Brinecorps Mercenaries
Zombie/vampire/skeleton pirates that shoot and loot the mortal realms. They live and die on their boats, ranging from small skiffs and rowboats to larger ghost vessels.
Destruction
>Armageddon Brayherd
Beastmen now loyal to Kragnos instead of the dark gods fighting for their right to rape
>Ironjawz
>Kruelboyz
They're already getting split

>>96376031
Even if we don't know what the rules do that short bitch has a decent statline honestly.

Uh….

>>96376546
Scalpers are wild.

>>96376439
>>Brinecorps Mercenaries
>Zombie/vampire/skeleton pirates that shoot and loot the mortal realms. They live and die on their boats, ranging from small skiffs and rowboats to larger ghost vessels.
Make them the vehicle and gun faction similar to KO and I'll buy into that army happily.

Gents, I feel like my CoS needs some sterner infantry to guard the fusils. Should I take dorfs or delves?

>>96376546
lmao have fun trying to shift those, losers.

>>96376584
Neither of them will survive

how do i paint pale goth girl skin. preferably without fucking rakarth cus i hate that fucking paint

>>96376546
Lmao Magic War Rings. They have that lust provoking image to try to get simps to buy from them and sell at an insane scalper markup.

>>96376622
Not what was asked.

>>96376622
The Ironbreakers look good for a shield wall. I might just commence Operation: Get Behind The Stunties

>>96376623
Wraithbone base. Dreadful Visage layer.

>>96376623
Try a rakarth equivalent that isn't as chalky, from vajello or whatever?

>>96376584
I like 40 longbeards, very efficient.

>>96376439
>Beastmen now loyal to Kragnos
dude fucking hates beastmemes, man, he's getting his own army of centaurs

>>96376782
This seems like bait

>>96376546
Dumb scalper is going to get fucked on this. Well deserved.
>>96376584
you vill buy 3 more command corps boxes und you vill like it

>>96376845
What's bait about it they're 110 with a 3+ save and access to orders.

>>96376849
Hell no, that stupid fucking rapier failed to wound in six combats

What's next for the Stormcast Eternals model range?

>>96376976
Is there anyone that really cares? They're the worst range in the setting. Boring Not!Space Marines

>>96376976
Some manner of dreadnoughts.

>>96376976
Dracoth/stardrake refresh

>>96377005
>refresh
Please stop.

>>96376976
extra extreme vandus

>>96376976
Like >>96377005 said, refresh for those, but I think it’ll be a Vanguard focused refresh in 5e. Maybe a hero or two in between like we had Ionus.

>>96376976
I know it won't happen but I'm desperately hoping they skip stormies for once and let some other chums go in the starter box. Surely they can come up with something else that's easy to paint and collect.

>>96377030
They are designed to be in the starter set, there's no way they would let another faction feature unless as something that does so alongside them.

>>96377027
Something's different about Calanax.

>>96376981
>Is there anyone that really cares
stormcast sales carry this entire game retard. Your dogshit only exist so stormcast players have npcs to kill.

>>96377051
He digievolved

dracoths are canonically believed to be an immature stage of their species, they become full blown stardrakes after a number of lives, so gw can just make him grow onto a dragon whenever

>>96377073
I'm still not sure how death and reforging works with SCE beasties. Like I'm pretty sure gryph-chargers don't get reforged.

>>96377085
I think it's only the dracoths/stardrakes because they naturally reincarnate, since they're so saturated in azyr and direct spawn of dracothion.
If anything the reforging process was probably inspired by them.

Other random animals, even ones with a connection to azyr, just die normally.

>>96377085
Yeah, the novels always have heroic sacrifices for Knight Azyros birds and such so

Almost there

>>96377151
Cum trees

>>96377151
id dry brush some brown at least in the inner parts of the tree.

Anybody got a pdf of the IDK tome?

>>96377403
>>96374593

>>96376976
Ruination or warrior chamber judicators would be cool. Really hate there's only one non hero option for shooting and it's vanguard.

Outside of that I'd like a two hand scroll for reclusians, and just completing the range refresh.

I dont see the 4th edition tome in that link.

>>96376031
>Black-Hearted Conqueror
Gives +5 to control score
>'Fight, you scum'
Lets an infantry unit fight right after him

Hero abilities are pretty predictable (and boring) this edition

>>96377472
Seems par for the course for GW in general lately. Everything in the rules for all the main games is boring.

>>96377421
I don't really know much about stormcast but isn't the whole ruination chamber basically just reclusians and two or three heroes ? I might be missing something but found it weird how little of skaventide + subsequent releases was about them vs the attention they got in marketing etc

>>96377521
For non heroes its just the reclusians and the prosecutors. There was rumor of cav but that ended up being stormstrike.

Fluff wise there's apparently a ruination justicar unit yet to be shown.

>>96377545
Huh I didn't think prosecutors were ruination since they're a refresh but yeah you're right. Whateva happened there

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>>96377802
>>96377802
>>96377802
AND A GLORIOUS FRIDAY EVENING TO YOU

>>96367513 (OP)
Soon