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>>96392972 (OP)
https://imgchest.com/p/n87wmxbnz4x

>>96392993
New parent statistics. Mostly useful for Adoption.

>>96392998
>Fot
>0
Poor guy

>>96392993
Hopefully, Vëe the Dream Librarian has everything this time.

>Patron God
YMRD
>Reincarnation
Adoption
Outer Tide
Parents:
Pu'un, Unnotable One (On), Afanasiy Sauromat (Qoppa)
>Race
Pixie
>Languages
Elven-Northerner
Old Northern
Spriggan
Everman
>Location
Mesecerechie
>Inborn Gifts
Perpetuity
Memory Retention
Noble Inclination
Attentiveness
Ethereal Beauty
Starsight x2
Antoantecedence
Dream Passage x3
Diminishment
>Mentors
Feodwra (Ouk, Remember About Death)
Upunth (Myslete, Dungeon Crawler)
Zu'us (Tsy, Nothing Ever Happens)
>Companions
Izbor (Izhe, A Song of Ice and More Ice)
Omega (Ot, By Design)
Gunter Lilim [Mocnaeth-From-Erebus, Gisela, Darina Tempo-Achaena] (Glagoli+Zhivete)
>Death
Az
>Youth
Treasure Hunting
Journey to the Self
Power Testing
Magical Training
>Quest
Temperantia

The Dream Library has humble beginnings - Vëe understands how to go back to the same "dream" and start stockpiling her notes in the seemingly static and empty Dungeon room. Sometimes alternate versions of said notes appear, but she chalks it up to dream shenanigans.
After her adoptive father dies and Feodwra teach her time magic, she start to "bring back" alternate notes, decipher it via Starsight, then write it back. Both to get knowledge and to understand how dreams themselves work by contrasting all the changes. She starts travelling to get more perspective and end up treasure hunting - her Gift makes her uniquely able to restore barely readble texts and by now she loves collecting stories. That's the basis of her rivalry with Gunter: who will get the most relics with a pinch of "mage vs fighter".
Her ultimate goal is to create a way for everyone to enter the Dream Library by thinking about it before starting to dream. A shared dream that will preserve the memory of the world as it's endlessly rediscovered by new people.

>>96392993
I'm noticing a trend towards more Az and Dis builds in this latest tide.

>>96392993
Aye, reposting with the Encounters.

Name: Krinak, Syn Ufroka
Patron: SRTR
Mother: Phershepa-From-Erebus (Zelo)
Father: Detmoun, Syn Ufroka (Cherv')
Gifts: Attentiveness, Inner Vision x1, Treacherous Palm x1, Last Breach, Warmachina Mounting, Devout Signature, Crooked Caress x1, Look of Chaos x1, Overendurance, Second Wind, Boiling Blood, Bestial Strength, Entrenchement x2
Languages: Simplified Duergar, Late Thulean
Location: Stygia
Mentor: Strokrad (Dobro, Nothing ever Happens)
Companion: Jarnigit ( Yat Zhivete, Playing Traitors), Brastat (Slovo, Full Stomach), Mocnaeth (Pokoy, Breaking and Entering), Baf (Ioated Greater Yus, Wild and Wilder)
Death: Buki
Quest: Vanitas

>>96393069
The Longest March begins anew—a Legacy March. While the world above struggles against the Ecumene, I remain in the Underground, waging my own war. With each step and every kill, I push back the darkness.
Our assault begins with a double strike into the Ecumene’s basement at Midday Crossing. Once we gather there, the march continues toward Tsoshu, then westward. Along the way, we make a detour through Chervolonin—not only to claim the 3/8th's corpse for Baf, but also because it is our inheritance as the heirs of the Longest March.
The road leads to two final adversaries: Dis, and whatever waits below, and then the Second Seat. With my skill at piloting war machina, and with a companion who can forge new ones, the path splits after Parsmunia.
If Vtorusha cannot be reasoned with, then the choice is clear—we fight. It will be Armored Core against the God-Killer Machine, and afterward, I must face Charlotte.
But if the machina can be controlled, then a greater conflict awakens: the Second War of Heaven and Earth. In that struggle, Buki must be fulfilled.
Perhaps I will not survive. But by then the Underground will be cleansed of Nightmare, making half the world habitable once more. From there, the scattered outposts and reclaimed lands can be reforged into something enduring: the Eternal Empire, named for its unyielding, undying nature.

>>96392993
Visual design bug. There is a gray line at the right in the mystery box. It is most noticeable on a black background. Looking a bit closer, one will notice that none of the cracks not extend to the line.

>>96393069
Youth section?

>>96393056
Az is actually kinda good. Don't play guessing games with what the DM thinks is cool, just let them write your character arc for you and enjoy the ride. And if you're worried about identity death, they'll probably pull the original you out of stasis again later. They love bringing old characters back.

>>96393086
>cracks not extend
*cracks extend

>>96392993
For the sake of identifying legal members of a Tide in an objective format, we're first going to list the appellation of a character and a permalink to their build, then their NPCs in the order shown by the CYOA, and then their Youth and Quest. All characters then have a parenthesis explaining their perks and deaths, in that order. PCs will be indexed by their location and then alphabetically. This is only a catalogue for builds with Outer Tide.

>Empire of Light and Dark
>Kingsmour
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96380920
Flagellant Gambler (Kako)
Parents: Mada (Lyudi, Zelo), Afanisiy Sauromat (Cherv+Yee)
Mentor: Leimei (Tsy), The Keter (Yat)
Youth: Plotting, Profane Lore, Theology, Daemonhunt
Quest: E Nomine

>Mesecerechie
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96392972/#q96393021
Vëe the Dream Librarian (Az)
Parents: Pu'un, Unnotable One (On), Afanisiy Sauromat (Adoption, Qoppa)
Mentors: Feodwra (Izhe), Upunth (Myslete), Zu'us (Tsy)
Companions: Izbor (Izhe), Omega (Ot), Gunter Lilim (Glagoli+Zhivete)
Youth: Treasure Hunting, Journey of the Self, Power Testing, Magical Training

>Dragon King's Most Divine Realm
>Mountains of Autumn
https://rentry.co/r5gabub5
The Jötunnsdrottninggen (Iotated Lesser Yus)
JNPL
Parents: The Horde
Mentors: Gewgrin Aureole
Youth: Travelling, Magical Training
Quest: E Nomine

>City State of Dis
>Dis
https://rentry.co/CyoaORBuild001
Moonman (Iotated Lesser Yus)
YMRD
Parents: The Horde
Mentors: Jdan Ordo-Dorian (Tsy), Dirk Yesod (Untimeskip, Iotated Greater Yus), Mlada (Shta+Zhivete), Spako, Gwriel (Glagoli)
Companions: Blazhko (True Love, Zelo+Yee), Kalliopa Aureole (True Love, Lesser Yus), Dobrava (Greater Yus)

>>96393086
wow
immersion ruined

>>96393101
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96386307/#q96389412 [ILLEGAL BUILD: EMPTY DEATH SLOT ON RHUCUPHRE-FROM-MAEVE (C)]
Nightmare Queen (Az)
SRTR
Parents: Phershepa-from-Erebus (Myslette+Yee), Aat, Half-Ascended Thaumiel, (Adoption, Dice Fudge, Zelo+Zhivete)
Mentors: Upunth(Shta+Yee), Seo (Glagoli+Zemlya), Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (???+Yee)
Companion: Araith (Izhe+Zhivete), Inga Yesod
Youth: Pandaemonium, Magical Training, Martial Training, Leadership Training
Quest: Vanitas

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96379443
Speedster Spider (Lesser Yus)
SRTR
Parents: Dryndedh-From-Agartha (Iotated Ouk), Plevaka (Greater Yus)
Youth: Martial Training, Travelling, Power Testing, Pandaemonium
Quest: Vanitas

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96382717 [ILLEGAL BUILD: EMPTY DEATH SLOTS ON RUZHANA (C), FEODWRA (C), ZENIA (A)]
Y'Sereth (Buki+Zemlya)
SRTR
Parents: Fot , Ruzhana (Slovo)
Mentors: Feodwra (Shta), Kilyn of the Orthrung, Zlata (Glagoli)
Companions: Caeda of the Doria (Dobro), Ota (Zelo), Zenia
Youth: Leadership, Magical Training, Dungeoneering, Power Testing
Quest: Ameno

>Old Throne
>Poluplato
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96381847
Placeholder (Vedi)
Parents: Ratha of the Orthrung (Nash+Zhivete), Simimar of the Doria (On+Zemlya)
Mentor: Opoia (Iotated Greater Yus, Dirk Yesod <0^0, Upunth> (Yat+Zemlya)
Companion: Evdokia (Lesser Yus), Su'uq, Nilmatrix
Youth: Magical Training, Daemonhunt, Profane Lore, Dungeoneering
Quest: Liberta

>Midoria
https://rentry.co/3amh4xgw
Shirou (Vedi+Zemlya+Yee)
Parents: JNPL, "One"
Mentors: The Keter (Untimeskip, Lesser Yus+Zhivete)
Youth: Martial Training, Magical Training, Leadership Training, Parental Support
Quest: E Nomine

>>96393086
Cracks aren't always all evenly long though

>>96393107
>Archaia, The Kingdom of Kingdoms
>Mamet Interior

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Okhalorkhan (Az+Zemlya)
JNPL
Parents: The Horde
Mentors: Ielsiazeh-from-Erebus (Untimeskip, Shta), Pukluxun, Seo (Dice Fudge, Lesser Yus+Zhivete), Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (Untimeskip, Tsy+Yee)
Companions: Oko Shtorma (Iotated Lesser Yus+Yee), Gunter Lilim , Esu, Du'um> (Fiert),
Youth: Magical Training, Martial Training, Power Testing, Plotting
Quest: E Nomine

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Queen of Mamet (Greater Yus)
SRTR
Parents: Simka Citzalo (Qoppa+Zhivete+Yee), Stoyan (Tsy)
Mentors: Tenyota (Cherv'), Spako, Arsak (Shta), Hladvig (Iotated Yest'), Zhuchka (Dobro), Brastat (Glagoli+Yee), Caeda of the Doria (Zelo)
Youth: Theology, Plotting, Journey of the Self, Parental Support
Quest: Fundamentum

>Principality of Stygia
>Stygia
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96379796
Demonic Nightmare Maker (Vedi)
JNPL
Parents: Dei, Pir
Mentors: Half Ascended Thaumiel (True Love, Dice Fudge, Zelo+Zhivete), Seo (Shta+Zemlya)
Companions: Esu (Iotated Greater Yus), ??? (Izhe+Yee), Baf (Yee+Glagoli)
Youth: Profane Lore, Magical Training, Power Testing, Dungeoneering
Quest: Patientia

>Toybox

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96386307/#q96387386
Father of the Paracausal Arts (Theta)
SRTR
Parents: Aat, Thonodreth-from-Agartha
Mentor: Eirina of the Orthrung, Dirk Yesod , Maou, Half Ascended Thaumiel, Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (Untimeskip),
Youth: Magic Training, Power Testing, Natural Philosophy, Martial Training
Quest: E Nomine

>>96393115
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96378482/#q96381238
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog (Theta)
Parents: Thonodreth-from-Agartha, Aat, "One"
Mentors: Dirk Yesod , Lemeie, Ielziaseh-from-Erebus, Mlada, Rhucuphre-from-Maeve
Youth: [DATA MISSING]
Quest: E Nomine

>>96393056
Az is for character builds, for which taking Outer Tide means nothing because they don't exist to begin with, so I believe that they shouldn't be included in any Outer Tide lists.

Of course, this is said with the assumption that no one would actually kill themselves. If one wishes to prove this assumption wrong, I would be glad to witness their evidence.

>>96393095
I picked 4 times "Nothing", so I deleted the section.

I have a [polite] request.
I fully realise that OR posting is going to continue for another dozen threads.
But for those of us who aren.t invested could you at least post the occasional actual CYOA so the rest of us have something to do?
As a compromise?
>t. has been skimming for days now

>>96393115
>Youth: Magic Training, Power Testing, Natural Philosophy, Martial Training
You ain't got a youth.

>>96393122
>Youth: [DATA MISSING]
As intended.

>>96393125
I'm not sure I understand this logic.
Outer Tide is for Outsiders of the Eleventh Seat.
Az Outsiders are also holders of that Seat, even if they don't remember their time on Earth.
Wny exclude them?

>>96393132
Sure. What kind of CYOAs do you like?

>>96393139
>Az is for character builds
>they don't exist
>this is said with the assumption that no one would actually kill themselves

>>96393115
Paracausal here, I made an error in the build, it'd be Sei, not Thaumiel.

>>96393144
I don't understand the second point.

>>96392993
>>96393101
Does anyone want a chronological list with every build?

Not the same person making the Tide list btw.

>>96393107
>>96393115
So why is Nightmare Queen illegal because of an empty death slot, but Demonic Nightmare Maker legal despite not filling either of her parents death slots?

>>96393147
"character builds" = not real people. They don't exist.

>>96392993
How many Outer Tide Outsiders are in each iteration of the world on average?
How many of these alternate worlds will fall into chaos due to anons conflicting with each other?
I imagine 0^0 will be defeated in most of them, but then anons will carve up territories for themselves and lead the world into a dark age until some specialized outsider gets reborn and eventually fixes the problem.

Can you keep you Death letters?

Wondering if it would be viable to do Iotated Greater Yus + Yee as an Uruk to eventually be able to fuse with your old horde once you reincarnate to regain your power.

>>96393161
Because I am a fallible auditor.

>>96393168
Bring back Erginter to clean up the mess (and create a new one)

>>96393155
Remember almost everyone unanimously deciding to save mommy Tiamat?

>>96393164
...Yeah, no, I don't follow.
They're just as real as the rest of the Outsiders despite being amnesiac. It's not about the self-insertion. Which wouldn't disqualify them anyway, since whatever person they end up being was still chosen by the Earthborn and have their soul. Or am I misunderstanding the argument?

>>96393152
Chronological as in ordered by which build was posted first? I'd want one, would make sorting out who gets which parent, mentor and companion easier.

>>96393179
Yea. It was funny being a fairy with trumpeteer.

>>96393180
Az is suicide. No one here would actually suicide if given the opportunity to go to OR. Therefore, Az builds must be characters, fictional creations, not representative of any real person, and thus do not exist.

>>96393192
Builds with Mind-altering gifts should be removed too then, since that's essentially 'suicide'.

>>96393192
But i don't see Az as suicide. In fact it is an integral piece for my build i am working on.
Buki is suicidal why are they not excluded?
What about Yat?

>>96393192
But you don't know everyone here, though. Perhaps someone will refuse the second life, wanting to die conceptually with his Earth existence. Or they want a true clean slate not burdened by their previous lives' experiences. Or they have a plan that their old selves would sabotage by virtue of being there. Hell, perhaps they think it doesn't matter since they'll get it back for ascension. And so on.
The only certainty is that YOU wouldn't.

>>96392993
In the shadow of god encounter you can't die if you have Buki right, because with Buki only Charlie can kill you. So you have a chance to kill Charlie's lieutenant yes?

>>96393192
Unless of course they're suicidal, which is a possibility. Thus there might be an amnesiac outsider, but of course it's also possible that we have zero suicidal people around.

>>96393132
Anon please respond the other anon.

>>96393213
He's obsessing over personality death

Yat can always be sidestepped with a ritual suicide to becvome a lich, jailbroken empyrean, etc.

>>96393184
Alright, expect the list tomorrow.

>>96393218
Doesn't Shadow of God strip you of your plot armor so Charlie's assassin can kill you? Which is part of why JNPL is telling you it's retarded to go for it?

>>96393225
Imagine defeating 0^0 by ascending and doing the mathematical proof of 1^1>0^0. Hell 1^1 even has narrative flair from us being the 11th.

>>96393225
I've always been a fan of ending the world with you in it as the fulfillment of Yat. Best girl wants it, and best girl deserves it.

>>96393132
Sure.

>>96393205
Nta but Az is explicitly a type of death and the mental gifts don't fulfill any death rune.

Yat is one of the best, yeah. Since Necromancy exists you can just plan to be undead eventually. Gives you plenty of time to develop your exact ritual. Like my earthbound undead setup. So long as you don't get yourself stuck in a fate worse than death and kill yourself out of depression instead of ambition.

>>96393234
Where does JNPL say it's retarded?

>>96393253
Companion card.

>>96393247

>>96393244
1^1=1
0^0=1 (or indeterminate)

>>96393253
JPNL pretty much says
>Anon i KNOW getting empyrean out of this sounds nice but you really shouldn't push your luck

>>96393234
It's retarded because it is throwing away your greatest advantage in Charlotte being clueless about your choices and playing into her preplanned trap to catch new Outsiders.

Now given, Charlotte is a retard whose plans were terrible during her adventures but she still fumbled around enough to dig up the other Outsiders work and jury rig them into ascenending .

>>96393244
>>96393258
One=Charlie=11th outsider?

>>96393267

>>96393253
>Do not be foolishly tempted by the reward, or the thrill of the challenge, or the satisfaction at landing a lethal blow on a crucial part of the Ecumene.

>>96393234
there is no part hat says it "removes your plot armor" or anything similar, what it does is use casualty to accelerate the death but as far as we know the requirements for each death remains the same

so if you get yest she could use casualty so maybe wild animals are attracted to you, but it's not going to cause you to have a heart attack

theoretically you could weaponize death slots this way for stuff that is harder to achieve during a fight like dobro

Tbf there is the B-Team plan with Dobrava and Gunter. The soul stealer too of you want Nilmatrix's intel. You just need to be sure to give Gunter and co nice death marks for their service.

>>96393287
I dislike this plan because now I'm down three companions.

>>96393257
>>96393268
But that's not JNPL talking that's just the outsider system.

>Managed to scrounge enough ancestry points to un-pick misalliance
feels good man

If Charlotte considered that future Outsiders might not even want to fight her at all, why is she such a bitch to us then? A little kindness goes a long way. Spite's a powerful motivator too.

>>96393283
Sounds like a plan, but wouldn't she just do what that one said? Kill/injure a companion, then run away since you only get rewarded on her true final defeat.

>>96393115
For Demonic Nightmare Maker the death slots for Dei and Pir are Dobro and Pokoy respectively. I forgot to add them the first time.

>>96393294
>He is unaware that she speaks through the system

>>96393294
Almost the entire Outsider System is JNPL talking, anon.

>>96393294
It lays it on pretty thick at the end of who is still piloting the Outsider system.

>>96393301
Because she is projecting

>>96393308
Reading that always gives me chills. OR has some issues, but the metanarrative is really, really well done.

>>96393292
Gunter's companions don't take slots iirc. They do need death marks tho.

>>96393308
Absolute cinema

>>96393168
>How many Outer Tide Outsiders are in each iteration of the world on average?
The answer is probably symbolic. Maybe 45 outsiders after the 45 letters in the god-script?

>How many of these alternate worlds will fall into chaos due to anons conflicting with each other?
Most of them. An outsider conflict after 0^0 is the next logical progression for the storyline. I can see a rare few worlds with peaceful anons getting the Pandaemonium dream merging storyline though.

>anons will carve up territories for themselves and lead the world into a dark age until some specialized outsider gets reborn and eventually fixes the problem.
Depends on the anons obviously. This tide for example doesn't have belligerent royal claim builds or 0^0 wannabes with plans of reshaping the setting so far, you'd need plenty of these types for an iteration of the world to go to shit.

>>96393273
What if my goal isn't ascension. I just want to kill the second in command of the Ecumene?

Also if I'm the son of the Viceroy of the exarchate and his wife and reveal myself as an outsider, and also use true love on Kalliope to marry into the Empire. Then Charlie knows my choices and she will pick a fight with me. So just killing her second in command first would be a good move. The problem is that Nilmatrix can change her appearance so we might not know what she looks like and be able to betray us while we think she is someone else.

>>96393301
Intimidation.

>>96393244
I'm pretty sure the number 11 has some kind of special meaning in numerology, don't know what it is though.

>>96393323
It worked pretty well considering those anons who are scared shitless of 0^0 and think she already won and turning the entire world into wageslave hell is inevitable

>>96393301
Considering multiple Outsiders rebelled against the gods and she's in a better position than them to spin a little propaganda she's kinda retarded. I bet that around 70% of anons wouldn't have even cared if she hadn't presented herself as an enemy or justified spent a little effort to justify what she was doing instead of greeting them with insults and death threats. Kinda feels like she's trying to commit suicide by Outsider if she's not just dumb.

>The Second Outsider is locked within her Mecha
>The Elder God is locked within the Outsider System
Ironic.

>>96393325
>The 11 is the most intuitive of all numbers.
It represents illumination; a channel to the subconscious; insight without rational thought; and sensitivity, nervous energy, shyness, and impracticality. It is a dreamer.
Don't know what the fuck this could practically mean for OR, but you can use your imagination, I guess.

>>96393341
That's the dumb AI bullshit from the first page of google anon.

>>96393325
Just look at the meanings that Tank already gave with the Death Letters and make the connection up. It's actually pretty easy for 11th since 'Yee" means 'and'

>>96393344
>https://www.worldnumerology.com/numerology-master-numbers/master-number-11/
It's dumb bullshit, but not AI

>>96393325
there's a million different numerology systems, so it could mean anything if we go to real-world numerology. In-universe I'm pretty sure you'd write it as either yee az or az yee, which you can then try to find a meaning in.

>>96392998
Adoption unironically changes everything. The value of some parents are completely different. Maiosara Yesod shot up from 10 to a whopping 14. New meta.

I think it'd be funny to give Apantoxia to Gunter.

>>96393325
Cant speak for numerology but in Christianity 10 and 12 are big deals (10 commandments, 12 tribes of israel, 12 apostles) so 11 would be an imperfect number between 10 and 12. Charlotte ripped off a lot of shit from Christianity like angels or a Holy See so I guess we're the 11th outsider because we're challenging the divine order of Charlotte.

>>96393370
So what I understand is people didn't read adoption properly until I came and pointed it out asking it because it was weird I didn't see anyone mentioning it?

>>96393337
If Charlotte spent the CYOA flirting with the player then 90% of anons would join her without debate and she'd instantly win.

>>96393370
Yeah but I'm too attached to my parents to just ditch them for their genetic code. I'd rather hit myself with Bitter Sickness if I wanted the points.

>>96393378
>people didn't read adoption properly
*people who replied to you didn't read adoption properly

>I didn't see anyone mentioning it
Because no one cared before.

>>96393379
I will choose to believe anons made choices following their deepest hearts and "a girl flirted with me" isn't all it takes to sap their wills.

>>96393378
Just like when I mentioned another loophole I will not bring up again. Nor the extra ****** in companions.

>>96393283
Ok but can I kill Nilmatrix without shadow of god and taking her as a companion? How would I do that?

>>96393388
C'mon anon, be real.

>>96392993
Can I take Buki without making an enemy of Charlie? Like she said that taking Nilmatrix was her test. If I send her a letter saying
"I did not take Buki to make an enemy of you, I just plan to never meet you in person. I did not take Nilmatrix to show that I'm willing to be peaceful if you are. Stay away from the Doria continent, and I will stay away from the Poluden continent."

>>96393388
People are already trying to fuck her while she actively hates them, you really think if she was sweet on them they wouldn't jump at the chance of fucking a god waifu? Do you know where you are?

>>96393419
She doesn't know you took Buki unless you tell her, dude.

>>96393419
If you think she's going to stay clear of Doria, you're delusional.

>>96393419
Her goal is to take over everything, you're better off just joining her side.

>>96393419
>I just plan to never meet you in person
Anon, it's been spelled out that deliberately avoiding your chosen Death is asking Fate to fuck you over. You need to lean into it to reinterpret it.

>>96393419
It doesn't work like that, you will meet one way or another and I doubt she will be in a forgiving mood when that happens. You cannot dodge your fate withour working with it and doing your best not to meet her is the worst way to do it.

>>96393372
Which is ironic as 9 is the devils number (6+6+6=18, 1+8=9)

>>96393432
>>96393433
Yes fate will make sure we have a confrontation. But she might believe that I'm dumb enough that I don't know that. So when we have our confrontation she won't kill me since I told her I plan to not meet her.

Tankista said that Buki used to mean something else for Outsiders before Charlie, and I theorize it involves meeting one of the Elder Gods in-person at least. So maybe look for ways to get into SRTR's toybox, YMRD's shelter on the moon, or revive JNPL.

>>96393443
Your letter dictates she will kill you. She does not care. Unless you find another way out like Keter you WILL die by her hand. Even if you believe she wouldn't do it, it can very well happen by accident.

>>96393453
>Your letter dictates she will kill you
Another one who didn't read properly. It's like collecting pokemon cards at this point.

>>96393450
All the letters have multiple possible interpretations, the ones presented are the ones available for this iteration of the outsider system but it is not the only one and the letter may still haunt you in other ways.

Why are people so deadset on Buki? Empyrean? That shit is overrated since all it gives is achievable outside of it and with stronger forms of immortality.

Is the Toybox located in the Underground?
There are three locations with seemingly not even a description: the Moon, the Three Pillars, and the Underground. We know that YMRD is hiding in the Moon, and that JNPL was slain at the Three Pillars.
Which leaves the Underground overflowing with Nightmare, and the Goddess who create the dungeons as corporeal dreams in the first place.

>>96393453
No the letter predestines you to MEET her. She promises to kill you. That's not fate that's just her making a threat. She could change her mind if new information or circumstances come about.

How exactly does one go about avoiding their death? The interpretation is already fairly aligned with a final end, and its in set to be a form of "true" death meaning it isn't as easy as dying and coming back through the use of something like Dead Sprint to recover since there needs to be an actual sense of death or distancing from the person you were.

>>96393473
What? No Buki does not give you Empyrean. Buki let's you meet Charlotte. To kill her you have to meet her otherwise it would be hard. There are a few ways to get Empyrean, some mentors or companions have studied it, also if you kill Nilmatrix you can get it.

>>96393488
>>96381713
Copying a previous post of mine.

The easiest way for most letters is:
1. Use magic to not let your soul enter reincarnation immediately.
2. Let your body die whatever death is picked.
3. Have prepared magic heal your body.
Essentially die and immediately revive. May need a few more steps or some modifications for some letters.

For letters that cause ego death, rewinding with prepared time magic is the easiest way.

In any case, it's best if you intentionally cause the death yourself to have control over the situation.

>>96393523
Wouldn't no one have a death letter since the Old Throne rewind removes them?

>>96393523
That just feels way too easy. Sure magic to actually revive is probably high tier but even then that kind of seems to really take away from the whole True Death kind of thing. What would stop it from happening again and force you into worse circumstances?

>>96393530
The Old Throne doesn't undo everything. For example, if someone is put under the control of a necromancer, even if they rewind time with the Throne and come back to life, they'll still be under the necromancer's control. This is how our little porcelain doll conquered the Old Throne.

>>96393530
The throne rewinds everything, including fate (but not sure about the Elder Gods). Here, you only need to rewind yourself (or parts of yourself), no need or want to rewind fate (which would be pretty difficult).

>>96393545
>>96393544
Errr, add not rewinding undead to the list of things it doesn't rewind.

>>96393523
Nothing implies that would even work, and again you are trying to dodge your dead through a loophole. It won't work unless you actually lean into it naturally.

>>96393544
>>96393545
>The Old Throne doesn't undo everything
>The throne rewinds everything
Who do I believe?

>>96393311
Shrine World
Oceanic
Holy Ground
Inquisitorial Precincts
Astropathic Relay
Chaos Cults

Inquisitor Waifu

Outsider System choices are a double-edged sword in terms how some can bite you in the ass and did so to previous Outsiders. With Death letters are your best defense because of their other meanings and ability to influence the narrative of the world and manipulate fate with right choices since you stack them in your favor to manipulate pre-determined event as they are enforced by Outsider System.
Like how you can kill somebody like Rhucuphre with just Shta and Untimeskip.

>>96393554
Read: >>96392174
Under the Old Throne.

>>96393551
Many things count as death. Most letters are bodily death by common interpretation.

At least try to have an argument instead of saying vague nonsense.

>>96393558
>kill somebody with Shta and Untimeskip
This doesn't do what you think it does. The target will just come and teach you and die the normal Shta death. They don't get erased out of existence or whatever you're thinking of.

>>96393573
The whole point of your fated ending is that it will come when you least expect it, trying to find loopholes without working it into your story will backfire.
Here's the text straight from the cyoa about the last person who tried that.
And again nothing implies that there is magic that works like you mentioned.

>>96393597
This is the reason why I didn't waste a point on Undeath

>>96393602
It's the superior form of immortality though.

>>96393597
Are you stupid? I'm saying to trigger the letter, the exact opposite of Savmak. My stated methods don't even use loopholes; they interpret the letters completely straight, hence "easiest".

>>96393602
>>96393613
If you want to be undead it's better to take one of the mentors or companions with a focus on that, or even an Encounter. Someone like Herleva can outright guarantee you become a Lich, whereas taking the letter doesn't ensure you'll become a GOOD type of undead, look at what Savmak became.

>>96393473
Look angels are cute

>>96393616
You do you anon, if you don't think that triggering your fated death in a safely controlled environment with the whole purpose of getting it over with, isn't trying to evade it and won't be seen as a challenge to fate then go ahead with it.

>>96393640
ye of little faith

>>96393247
Why do people keep reposting this?

>>96393640
What "challenge to fate"? It is as following fate as it gets.

It seems like we have completely different outlooks and cannot understand each other, so this is getting pointless.

>>96393653
It's a good cyoa.

>>96393653
It's the new Black Magic.

>>96392993
>Humans cannot buy unagingness anymore, only a possibility it might activate if gods like you enough
wow

>>96393678
Obtain immortality by your own efforts, lazy ass.

>>96393678
>cyoa: is about avoiding or embracing a fated death
you: "wahhh why can't I buy immortality wahhh"

>>96393686
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ guess I'll become a necromancer and resurrect as lich then. Fuck you cheapass ORland goddesses, no way am I playing along with your "hehe maaaaybe if you're nice to us we will prevent you from aging to death ;) ;) but u never know"

The death letter thing is certainly creative, but it frankly it does dramatically reduce or eliminate my desire to engage with the cyoa. Really don't like any suggestion of an unavoidable death for myself or those who would be dear to me.

>>96393777
Just use the information to gain mentors and knowledge without bending fate then. Your own death is easily dealt with by a simple Yee. addition.

>>96393786
Do you realize that by doing this you are essentially losing your build? And protection against 0^0.

>>96393797
My build had a good run. I'm sure she'll have her hands full to deal with the next Outsider than a nobody.

>>96393797
>without my super special munchkin power there is no way I can beat a pseudo goddess
Pathetic.
Also create caches of loot and shit for your eventual reincarnation. Research some methods to graft, steal, make inborn gifts, etc. If nothing else, use the Breaking and Entering Encounter to make a portal to the moon and chill with YMRD.

>>96393828
Oh, that's where she is

>>96393419
Well it's possible to reinterprate Buki into a non violent confrontation like a verbal confrontation

>>96392993
Why does Dice Fudge cost ancestry points and not destiny points? It changes characters' point cost type to destiny and doesn't affect inborn gifts (the main things related to ancestry points) at all. It is by all logic more related to destiny than ancestry.

WAIT WAIT WAIT
I GOT IT
>>96383596
>>96383600
Charlie's race is Breastfolk!

>>96392993
Entropissbros... Dragoncuckbros... Magishitsisters... we got MOGGED hard. How can we recover?!?!?!?!

>>96393843
>Spend much of the time before the fated day digging about her past and pondering her philosophy and ideals
>When the day comes then attempt to make her calm the fuck down/become her therapist
If you somehow win like that the Fifth would be proud.

>>96392972 (OP)
The Book of The Damned
Male
Patron God: YMRD
Perks: Halfbreed -2A -2D, Dicefudge(Keter), Extra Mentorx2 -2D -4A, Outer Tide
Mother: Dei -5A
Father: Taexx -4A
Species: Drakonid/Majin
Languages: Bilingual(Drakonian +1AD, Salian +2D)
-Quietened: Simplified Duergar, Late Thulean +4D, Everman
Location: Principality of Stygia
Inborn Gifts: Caster Intuition, Spiritual Feel, Ethereal Beauty, All-Glimpse, Spirit Tap, Royal Claim, Daemonhost, Letters of the Damned(Yee: Merging of Concepts), Dragon Transformation, Agelessness, Cognitive Speed -2A, Memory Retention -2A, Wisdom -2A, Intelligence -2A, Attentiveness -2A, Kneeling Twilight -1A, Wereplague +2A, Thoroughbreeding -1A
Mentors: The Keter -5D, Seo -4D, Dirk Yesod -5D(Eirina of the Orthrung, Jisilbert), Pukluxun -4D
Companion: Zhuchka -3D
>Encounters
A Score of Orcs +1D +2A
A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll +2A +2D
Dirk: For Auspicious Beginnings
Seo: Playing Traitors
Keter: A Massacre At Midnight
Zhuchka: To Dream Bigger and Higher
Pukluxun: Just A Nightmare
>Deaths
Me: Vedi
Dei: Dobro, Yee -1D
Taexx: Tsy, Yee
Seo: Shta Zemlya -1D
Keter: Yat
Zhuchka: Zhivete
Pukluxun: Ouk
Dirk: Lesser Yus
>Youth
Magical Training, Theology, Traveling, Power Testing
>Quest
E Nomine

It's time to become the Ultimate Majin. I'm going to extract the Letters of the Majin I spawn, then merge them into more powerful combinations, then they're all going in me. I'm going to turn my single Letter of the Damned into an entire Book of the Damned, mostly to see what'll happen since I'm not sure if someone's done this before. If I don't get the exact spell I need to do this, I'm going to roll the Majin gacha while endlessly praying to YMRD until I either succeed or flood the world with a bunch of new Yee Majin.

>>96393892
Meant to link >>96392993

>>96392993
Before i get slapped in the face for an invalid build i need to ask
If i quieten my parents fated languages down to two i can get the bilingual bonus because my final fated languages are two right?

Would All-Seeing-Eyes just make Nilmatrix easily spotted when she tries to infiltrate?

>>96393903
There is number/causality fuckery going on so maybe things are a bit muddled. Not saying no but just saying there might be a non-zero chance of it somehow slipping past you.

>>96383255
>>96392993
>>96393115
Because OG Orkha's whole gimmick of spawning stupidly OP orcs is no-go, build update.

Name
>Orkhalorkhan
Patron
>[SRTR]
Reincarnation
>True Love (Rhucuphre)
>Untimeskip
>Dice Fudge
>Extra Mentor
>Outer Tide

Mother
>Unavailable
Father
>The Horde
Race
>The Uruk

Languages
>Everman
>Benewhisper
>Late Thulean
>Enthramithraic

Location
>Dis, City State of Dis

Inborn Gifts
>Ethereal Beauty
>Bitter Sickness
>Meandering Thoughts
>Cognitive Speed
>Wisdom
>Intelligence
>Attentiveness
>Spiritual Feel
>Martial Instinct
>Caster Intuition
>Autoantecedence
>Starsight x 3
>Stigmata
>Enochian Brand (GAINED)
>Azure Wreath (LOST)
>Treacherous Palm
>Flowing Gait
>Dream Passage
>Inhumanity

Mentor
>Ielsiazeh-from-Erebus (Untimeskipped)
>Pukluxun (Untimeskipped)
>Rhucuphre-from-Maeve (Untimeskipped)
>Upunth (Fudged)
>Jdan Ordo-Dorian
Companions
>Esu
>Polkan

Encounters:
>MAHARA-Jdan: Things That Shouldn't Be
>Upunth: A Calm And A Storm
>Esu: Lost in Lost City
>Rhucuphre: Just A Nightmare
>Pukluxun: Hidden Amidst the Clouds
>Polkan: Digging For Trouble
>Ielsiazeh: A Song Of Ice And More Ice

Death
>Orkhalorkhan: Az Zemlya
>Ielsiazeh: Shta
>Pukluxun: Greater Yus
>Rhucuphre: Sha
>Upunth: Zelo
>Jdan: Tsy
>Esu: Iotated Greater Yus Zhivete
>Polkan: Qoppa

Youth:
>Magical Training
>Martial Training
>Power Testing
>Plotting

Quest:
>E Nomine

>>96392993
Name: Ҁ Ф ʌ(Death: Yat)
DP: 6
AP: 0
Mentors: 2
Companions: 3
Gender: Male
Patron God: YMRD - I'm personally a lore fan and I appreciate stories mostly through my understanding of their world.
>Boons:
Outer Tide
Mother: Dei (-5AP) (Death: Iotated Ouk (Easily circumvented with a Majin ability especially once I get true daemons running))- I can probably help her out on her mission and she'll immediately understand what's going on so there's no need for lengthy explanations. Daemonhost and All-Glimpse are the best things we have access to.
Father: Drynndeh-From-Agartha (Death: Zelo (I think this is how he'd like to go)) (+1AP) - He'll likely be understanding about the whole needing a father to exist thing, it may also be fun to listen to his stories.
Race: Majin
>Languages:
Bilingual
Quietened - Simplified Duergar (+2DP) (Not relevant to me and forces polyglot which is objectively bad with it for me)
Late Thulean (+3DP), Drakonian (+1AP,+1DP)(Points are points)
Birthplace: Principality of Stygia - Stygia (Dei makes this choice nice and simple for me which is nice) (+1 Yee)

>>96393951
>Inborn Gifts:
>From Mother:
Daemonhost
All Glimpse
Royal Claim
Spirit Tap x1
Purchased:
Misalliance (Father, +10AP)
Bitter Sickness (+4AP)
>Wizarding Set-up:
Cognitive Speed (-2AP)
Memory Retention (-2AP)
Wisdom (-2AP)
Intelligence (-2AP)
Attentiveness (-2AP)
Spiritual Feel (-2AP)
Caster Intuition (-2AP)
Racial:
Letters of the Damned (Zelo)
>I rolled 1d45 for this, I'll pick the interpretation so I'm going to say that it's a enhancement power, it doubles an objects meaning (i.e. a knife will cut twice as well) for a day then leaves it with a permanent 0.5% buff, this can be stacked only after the effect wears off. It can target other people but not myself
Longevity
Misc:
Everlasting (-3DP, -3AP)
Autoantecedence (-5AP)
Spirit Tap x3 (-8AP)
>The core of this build, an auto antecedence which loses much but gains far more. I can no longer change the race of a character to another magical one but instead optimizes them closer towards the mystical ideal of their race (The strength of this is effected by my understanding thereof), for example a Drakonid becomes a greater and more terrifying beast when transformed and can maintain dragon form more easily or an elf gains everlasting. In Majin this allows them to become a greater conduit for their letter of the god script. This is impermanent as usual.
>The actual trick here is to combine it with the use of my Zelo which leaves behind 0.5% of their buffed state allowing this inherent magic to grow through many repeat applications, after thousands of attempts at this an elf could become truly immortal, a Drakonid could become a perfect hybrid and a Majin a True Daemon, a complete vessel for a letter of the godscript (of course only one could exist per letter). These are inheritable and somewhat dependent on a persons intial gifts so a good few races could branch off from any experiments.
Thoroughbreeding (-1AP)

>>96393960
>Mentors:
Dirk Yesod (-5DP) (Death: Yer', Yee (Honestly this one could've happened a while ago, hopefully next time his life will be peaceful))- Ielziahe-From-Erebus, Half-Ascended Thaumiel
Feodwra (Death: Tsy (Perhaps she finds her way home, perhaps she merely wanders further into the future)) (-4DP)
>Get started with a pretty great magical education (I would take Rucuphre but her actual teaching bonuses are way worse than the stuff she doesn't teach you (I'd really like to know how pandemonium works, guess I'll just seek them out in the world)). Of course I'll go for Dirk's forbidden knowledge, but if he really doesn't want to budge on it I'll ask for advice on what to avoid looking at using the all-glimpse
>Companions:
Ota (Death: Iotated Az) (-5DP)
Izbor (Death: Greater Yus (He's just really into his demon magical girl RP))(-2DP)
>They should be all that is necessary, Ota's knowledge to assist in the ascension and Izbor's invention to bind the final products into a harmony
Baf (Death: Ouk (Either she achieves her goal or can assist with mine, I can only hope things go well)) (-1DP)
> It would be rather rude to leave my little sister? behind, I can probably fold her ability into the plan, it will be a good linker.
Encounters:
Playing Traitors - Baf
Remember the Demon - Dirk Yesod
Breaking and Entering - Ota
On Full Stomach - Feodwra
Respawning Point - Izbor
Youth:
Magical Training
Theology
Profane Lore
Journey Of the Self
>On my journey of the self I'll try to encounter YMRD, Omega, Rucuphre and Evdokia. Primarily because I feel bad for Evdokia and I wanna understand whatever schizo bullshit Rucuphre is spouting.
Quest: Temperantia
>I enjoy this world and want to understand it, nothing more and nothing less.

>>96393938
Very standard mental pack loaded to hope that whatever person comes out of the Az pick is smart enough to use the bootleg All-Glimpse, low-cost martial options and all the UT'd knowledge to survive in Dis. He still has the Stigmata and the Beauty to not get KOS, but it's going to be trouble. If he survives the City, then he gets to wait until Jdan walks in and trigger the only possible Encounter among the encounters, besides Rhucuphre's Nightmare, which I don't mind getting triggered early to proc True Love. After that, just a lot of wandering around as Jdan pilots Orkha into making the best choices at the right time. because 0^0 can't effectively act around Mamet and Orthrung until Orkha gets around to doing some of his encounters, and even in Tsoshu, she can only play consolidation because Orkha's also still forced to do Digging For Trouble around Bastionaria.

Very boring deaths, Ielsiazeh has to somehow teach Theater to this guy in the wastes, Pukluxun gets forced into a role and dies in that role, Rhucuphre dies (hopefully) because she somehow got warped into True Love with this guy, Upunth gets the die in battle, Jdan wanders off to nowhere, Esu Dream-merging trick, and Polkan just dies to whatever curse he meets or a miscast of Orkha's. Az Zemlya's there just to see if my memories can make a comeback even through an Az somehow.

Youth is there so he actually gets decent foundations without parental support, and the Quest is so he gets why 0^0 should be dead. If I had to guess about how he turns out, pseudo-Solipsistic caster who autodidact'ed his general kit from Dis. Might or mightn't have Upunth's weaving of dreams and trances, depending on how good A Clam And A Storm was by. Definitely got messed up by Just A Nightmare because of Starsight.

>>96393971
My plan is to create a group of 45 majin each with a unique letter, I can then elevate them each to the rank of true daemon over the course of a few decades I can then use the one with yee to bind them together into a full rendition of the godscript in entity form and use Izbor's daemon piggybacking with Baf's ability to gain its complete understanding.
There are a couple of good plot hooks here, using my ability on non-majin races to create basically ubermensch in their species, the effects of physically incarnating full letters and the process of keeping together a group of 1-45 demigods for several decades without one splintering off and joining pandemonium or something.
In terms of interactions and my general behavior I'll probably be fairly reclusive planning everything out and making sure that my 45 Majin are well cared for along with learning Godscript. I'm more than willing to craft stuff for others or buff them so long as it doesn't interfere with my great work (Through diminishing meaning). I'm a bit of a coward so I'll avoid taking sides in conflicts between outsiders in the tide and can probably be threatened easily because squishy mage. I will get pissy if people start fucking about with the letters though, I need those.
I'm pretty sure Enochian brand is a trap option with all-glimpse, you just start writing over reality without knowing meanings and no way to stop it.

>>96393951
Lol bro decided to immediately drop a better version of my build

>>96392993
Is there an option or method to customize your appearance permanently?

>>96393903
>It should in theory, but won't in practice. The fate necessitated by the Encounter will ensure that you will somehow overlook looking into it every time.

I'm not sure why anons are so dead set on giving 0v0's right hand free plot armor to try to assassinate them. If you just want to kill her the Gunter, Dobrava plan is right there, and if you just want to become an Empyrean, there are mentors that can help with that.

>>96393056
Dis got buffed with +1 Mentor Slot and effectively free +3 Destiny from Everman. You can have Fay as well, which adds +1 Ancestry and +1 Destiny. Really good stuff.

Az is also pretty good at making a person to pilot against 0^0. You don't need the baggage of actually knowing that Charlotte is mimicking Old World tech to know that everything she builds is false. You barely lose anything if you have a way to contact with someone with relevant info as well.

>>96393617
Savmak's cool though.

>>96394031
Never heard of the details of either of those options.

>>96393974
Enochian brand + Meandering thought is a trap option
All-glimpse is just more difficult to manage, because your an outsider you can't really die by non death slot means so you can't die from mispelling the godscript as a child and also you have an adult mind not a babies, so with proper discipline its possible to master such thing, kneeling twilight and attentivness should help with keeping focus. Worst case you can just overuse your enoch brand by casting some low level spells until its exhausted from overuse. Don't really know how long the cooldown from overuse so it might just be a minute or two so easier to just have kneeling twilight.

>>96394031
Well the trap works perfectly, they are foolishly tempted by the reward, or the thrill of challenge, or the satisfaction of landing a lethal blow on a crucial part of the Ecumene. They just YOLO it without a plan thinking they are the overpowered invincible main character Keter 2: Now with less empyrean.

>>96394084
With blessings of [SRTR] I win.

>>96394096
Blessing of [SRTR] just transports you to a fake practice world inhabited by npcs.

>>96394084
If you win then you get to be Keter 2: Empyrean boogaloo tho

>>96394061
Who the fuck picks meandering thought with enochian brand?

>>96394135
>Implying the whole cyoa isn't this

>>96392993
I've finally finished updating my build:
https://rentry.co/772hurgv
This is an update to this build, most of the write-up is still good for it. I should probably add more with how I'll interact with Thaumiel, Zhuchka, and Jdan eventually:
>>88529433
>>88541256
>>88541316
>>88541394
>>88541444
>>88541514
>>88541622

Someone posted this song at my build last time. The Engrish is pretty thick, but I think it sounds very nice. It gives me a nostalgic feeling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSq-5-5Tayg
>>96393101
I didn't take Tide (I wouldn't be able to keep this build if I did) but I'm happy to pretend I did if people want to talk about interacting.

>>96394038
Tank confirmed that Dobrava, the GOAT, can solo Nilmatrix if you put them both on Gunter's team and take the Shadow of God encounter. Also you can take the hidden races if you have JNPL as your mother. Except Empyrean.
Exact quotes
>(Redditor)I also suppose it won't work on "shadow of god" since it is said to be the last encounter so you will already have met Dobrava so she can't use her hax.
>(Tankista)It's actually an intended secret strategy - that's part of why the text says whoever vanquishes Nilmatrix gets the reward, not specifically you. However, to achieve this you need to set up the B team under Gunter Lilim. He needs to have both Dobrava and Nilmatrix as his Companions, and then Dobrava's solving of her Encounter should apply.
>(Redditor)How about Dobrava constructing the Encounter so that Nilmatrix gets permanently killed by a Companion or Mentor?
>(Tankista)That's possible, but it would likely require that person being in Gunter's party for that to work. And it'd likely fail - Dobrava winning by herself is the most likely result here by default. Everything else overcomplicates things and just increases the chances of her failure, which is why it wouldn't happen if the circumstances don't favour the outcome.

>>96394153
Nice. Trading her in now.

>>96394142
welp no one with basic literacy and common sense, you would probably need to have meandering thoughts IRL to choose such thing

>>96394153
This is good. I already have Jdan Ordo-Dorian to have given some hints as well as other methods to increase the likelihood of defeating her so this addition guarantees it, thanks.

>>96392993
>tfw to take Sharik to have a cool dungeoneering vagabond bro dad
>tfw want to be human
>tfw I don't like any of the human mothers

fml bros

>>96394153
Like this is the only viable strategy I seen, and it was pretty much just revealed by Tankista. Most people don't even seem to have an actual plan against her and just run straight into the trap. I guess the trap works as intended.

>>96394170
The Unnotable One is cute.

>>96394170
Why do you want to be human so badly?

>>96394170
well I guess you can always go with an unnotable one, if you really hate the other choices

>>96394171
The strategy is sound but it does take away the reward of Empyrean if you do it yourself. Still, that's the price to pay for guaranteeing the death of Charlie's right-hand.

>>96394170
JPNL and have him adopt you

>>96394160
The power of an autist protected by her own death...

>>96394148
>I didn't take Tide (I wouldn't be able to keep this build if I did) but I'm happy to pretend I did if people want to talk about interacting.
Well suppose you did take the outer tide. What would you do in it?

>>96394173
He's a humaboo

>>96394182
yeah its just very unlikely that you will actually kill Nilmatrix yourself, like at best you can probably get YMRD to kill her, like you will probably need to decypher Gewgrins notes at the minimum to neutralize her yourself, not to consider stacking other options to increase your chances, but your pretty much need to build your build around taking down Nilmatrix to actually take her down, you can probably kill her sure, but to permanently neutralize her to get the reward you need a lot of fucking prep as your dealing with an empyrean.

>>96394173
It is what I am, anon. All of the good and bad. Turning away from it just doesn't sit well with me.

Also having animal ears is gay as fuck and only acceptable for my boyfriend.

>>96394176
>>96394172
It's not that I hate the other choices. They just don't really call to me.

Out of the human options I like:
>Kapitwlina
>Irmtrod
>Unnr Yesod
>Boyana
I'll probably go with Boyana as she seems the most compatible with Sharik

Otherwise I'd probably go with Pu'un or Phershepa for that sweet, sweet Warmachina gene.

>>96394194
>adoption
That is now a consideration.

But also feels like a dick move.

>>96394202
Well so far, from the new Tide builds, it doesn't seem like anyone is aiming for thrones at anywhere near the same rate they used to. So nobody is really stepping on my toes in my plan to feed Icon of Icons as much as possible. So, instead, I'm going to want to be friends while I carry out my personal goals. A lot of them are big on some kind of magical and dream research, so I'd want to help them with that, since my build is set-up to be pretty good at magical research.

>>96394202
There is a complete lack of Ecumene builds, maybe I should build the complete opposite of an outertide. Go solo, team up with Charlie and screw up the chances of the next outsider as much as possible.

>>96394210
I can take her.

>>96394222
The quality of Outsiders really took a nosedive after Sarmat did his thing

>>96394225
do you mean pick true love, get fucked by her and then get assassinated in bed by some causal manipulation shit?

>>96394210
Don't forget that you're facing her immediately after reaching adulthood too, so you're doing this with only your inborn gifts, what your mentors are guaranteed to teach you, and whatever your companions have at base.

>>96394217
>But also feels like a dick move.
A dick move?

>>96392993
Is there any reason not to go undead as a dark elf? Some of the states of undeath seem better than their curse.

>>96394210
I keep repeating this.
ZENIA IS RIGHT FUCKING THERE
PICK HER THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL NILMATRIX ISN'T YOUR DARKEST MOMENT

>>96394230
well he solved too many problems, maybe if you do the inverse and cause even more problems, the quality will improve, maybe the elder gods will pull some hyper competent Mary Sue from their asses to stop this

>>96394236
Not at all, I had a full on plan of taking her out

>>96394246
Blessed weapons or other anti-undead abilities, and an even worse reaction from other people.

>>96392972 (OP)
It has been many a moon since I was on this board last. Tell me, brothers. Has Italics completed his Great Work? Has the successor to PPP been completed?

>>96394250
>Zenia kills her and gets Empyrean
>Now has personal training from SRTR and nigh-impossible to kill

>>96394263
Of course not, we Outer Reincarnation now.

>>96394250
well not dying from Nilmatrix is not that hard if you pick Vedi your pretty much immortal for over a hundred years what she going to do shunt you into the future. But yeah you can choose Zenia she will save you she might even kill Nilmatrix, but to deal with her permanently you need to have done your Empyrean neutralizing homework.

>>96394263
Magi Case has been released if you mean that?

>>96394250
>>96394266
Zenia will only drop if your death is about to be fulfilled right? Not sure if it's worth it to pick an achievable death just for that since Charlie will be watching.

>>96394263
no, but pickachu cumslut 2 is making good progress from what I hear

>>96394219
Yeah I remember royal claims being claimed really fast in the first tide in stark contrast to this current tide. Its like everyone turned into YMRD over the years. Like I don't think we even have any rulers in Doria right now, only some in Mamet. If you're focusing on building up Icon of Icons as a ruler you'd fill up a niche in the current tide.

>>96394279
Yeah, but if it does trigger there and you'd survive, you're free from it. Of course, you're now capable of dying from literally anything else after that.

>>96394290
nope, Zenia won't remove your death slot, she will just save your from one death 100% of the time. Then fate will need to meet your death slot condition some other way.

>>96394295
Huh? That doesn't make sense. If I was to go die to something else and it procced Zenia, what would be the point of the Death I chose?

>>96394267
I don't think I have the 'tism needed for that. Looks fun though. Do enjoy.

>>96394276
i don't believe so. I recall him mentioning a spiritual successor in the works an age ago.

>>96394285
I don't even know what any of that is supposed to mean.

>>96394241
To saddle someone with someone elses kind.

Don't get me wrong, I think Sharik is definitely one of the Father choices that would be most likely to roll with it.

But is JNPL as a Mom really worth taking? It's a pretty hefty investment.

>>96394300
Think of her as an extra life, if you don't choose Vedi, and one time when your death is about to be fulfilled, she'll resolve it and let you continue instead of seeing a game over screen. The death's still there, you just get to keep playing instead of dying there.

>>96394300
It probably depends on the situation.
If you had played into it, then you've successfully avoided the death fully - which also makes Zenia's entrance kind of redundant, since you did most of the prep work yourself.
If you did not play into it, then the death did not come to pass yet, so you still have it on the horizon. But Zenia did properly save you at that time.

>>96394287
Yeah, there's no Augustus to butt heads with this time (though I saw that he got a lore character named after him, good for him.) From the Tide repost, it looks like the main thing I'd have to do is toss out Feodwra, Dirk, and even Jdan from my build. Which I can do, I have an interest in the mentors who teach dream and necromancy related stuff instead (though getting any satisfactory amount of either would be hard since around half of them are taken, so it's like half in one half in the other) but the big issue for me is that someone has already taken Omega, which I won't really negotiate on. Omega or bust.

>>96394308
>But is JNPL as a Mom really worth taking? It's a pretty hefty investment.
Depends on how strong you think being an Asura, Daeva, or living Warmachina is

>>96394300
what? That doesn't make sense. You can't die from anything else but your death slot. So she literally can't procc if it is not a death related to your death slot. But because you dodged the death slot and not actually triggered it, it will still be there. So you can only die from a second instance of your death slot chosen death triggering.

>>96394310
How does she work if you do choose Vedi?

>>96394310
>>96394311
>>96394316
Okay, that makes sense. So it's more of a delay/second chance.

>>96394318
She gets to stay in the toybox for another 100 years until the 12th gives you another death, then she'll save you from that if you fail to circumvent it yourself. She's a safety net.

>>96394310
well technically she will work as an extra life even if you choose Vedi, she will just have to sit for over a 100 years in the toybox until the next outsider gives you a death slot, and she will save you from getting killed by that death slot one time.

>>96392993
>Jdan + Dobrava
>auto-resolve Second War of Heaven and Earth at the cost of one point

Okay let's break down Nilmatrix

>Is an empyrean. Solution: Figure out how to kill one. Gerwyn aureole's diary will probably help a chunk but might need more work. Kilyn's killer wordplay is very likely to point you the right way to figure out to make your own if you can't just simply copy hers to kill her. It did crippled 0^0 so it will probably devastate her if not kill her right then and there. Even a bastardized version might do.

>Has a rough equivalent of Daemonhost. Solution: Either have an army of your own to deal with them or have a way to sweep through chaff quickly

>Master of any form of physical combat. Solution: This one is so straightforward that i don't really know what to tell you. Be good enough to not be steamrolled in any way you see fit.

>Herald of the divine mandate: Be prepared to deal with Final Destination bullshit. All-Glimpse is the most obvious one to see them coming but View of Fore can help if you managed to keep those eyes up until this point. Another obvious one would be having a fate that prevents you from dying outright from those. That being said that doesn't mean they can't just set you up to die by her hand instead.

>Vicar of the holy see: Know how to fight mathemagicians well enough to be able to fight the best of the bunch excluding 0^0. Either that or don't use that much magic to deal with her. Numerology is likely to help eitherway.

>The world-shattering betrayal: Be a paranoid fuck that will draft fallback plans for everyone they meet or Pop an Eye of Fore so you can see it coming because it happened already and plan accordingly after that. Sleep mitigation and abstaining from dungeons highly recommended.

Roughly that should be about it no?

>>96394345
Seeing four of my plans here tells me I'm on the right track.

>>96394345
>Another obvious one would be having a fate that prevents you from dying outright from those. That being said that doesn't mean they can't just set you up to die by her hand instead.
Also if she realizes she can't kill you she'll probably go for your companions then run away so you can't get the reward, there's nothing stopping her from doing this.

>>96394359
Nta but three of my companions have death traps. If she invokes them, it'll either be for my benefit or her hindrance.

>>96394359
If she runs away at the best possible window backed by the Outsider system AND Causality to kill you then they are never EVER gonna have a better chance than that and by that point you will be more prepared than you were at that time.
Also there is a non zero chance Nilmatrix is gonna get an unreasonably harsh punishment by an angry 0^0 and by that point you can probably recruit her for realsies because the tide of causality that prevented it already came to pass.

Also remember that you also set up the fate of your companions.

Also i feel like i am sorta convincing myself to take Nilmatrix
What the fuck man

I think I'm the only person who has zero interest in being Empyrean.

>>96392993
A question only real YMRD detectives can answer.
Who killed Spako, and who brought her back?

>>96394387
>I think I'm the only
You are not special.

>>96394387
Okay papa lich.

How is mathemagic different from regular magic?

>>96394392
Sure thing, Charlotte.

>>96394387
Angels are cute. You should reconsider.

>>96394345
I'd assume she isn't immune to eye powers like look of chaos or human goodness, either of which could severely hamper her, and Ota's shadow definitely would work (if successfully triggered).

>>96394406
Considering the nature of Mathemagic look of chaos is probably extremely crippling to its usage

>>96394396
Math uses "reality" and magic uses narrative. But even math has it's faults because it's a narrative in itself. Something we created to help us understand the world and percieved patterns just like those in the past used gods to explain their world. Once I come face to face with 0^0, I plan to yap my way into nullifying her own magic.

>>96394409
>Xavier Renegade Angel tactics
Bold move

>>96394409
I'm sure an actual mathematician would humiliate her, much like an actual physicist, chemist, or biologist would when confronting her fuck-stupid approximations of our reality's laws.

>>96394420
Mind i remind you that the greatest warmachina ever created was designed to argue with the gods?
And even if it didn't fulfilled it's original purpose she argued the true dragons into being an impossibility already.

>>96394345
you also need to take note the once you start fighting 0^0 will notice and start fudging the fight in Nilmatrixes favour using deus ex machina

>>96394424
>Euler gets reincarnated as the 11th outsider

>>96394387
There are other ways to become empyrean, probably easiest to just go work for Charlie for a few decades and you will get your empyrean reward

>>96394431
Would be hilarious if you can bait her into a narrative error then and there though.

>>96394435
No way in hell i am helping her to turn the world into somewhere i want to isekai away from. I would rather fight Nilmatrix desu.

>>96394430
Sucks for her that you can rediscover True Dragon Solipsism, the moment in the Nightmare where they became Dragons, and also companion and romance Araith, whose dragon form is running on True Dragon rules.

>>96392993
>name
unnotable lich

>patron
[0^0] | +20 pink +20 green
>sex
m
>perks
burn the future x12 | -24 pink +12 green
outer tide
>mother
unnotable (muddish) | +4 pink
>father
unnotable (northerner) | +4 pink
>race
muddish | +1 mentor +3 green
>languages
polyglot
everman (inherited) | +3 pink
simplified duergar | -2 pink +8 green (from 2+1+1+1 mentor, 3 companion)
fay | -2 pink +1 green +1 pink
sylphid | -2 pink +1 mentor
>birthplace
city state of dis - dis | +1 mentor
>gifts
body: unburnt hide, bulletproof skin | -2-4=-6 green
mind: all gifts | -2-2-2-2-2-2=-12 green
sense: all gifts | -2-2-2=-6 green
eye: all-glimpse | -5 green
mark: autoantecedence (esurient walk), blazing seal | -5-3=-8 green
arm: treacherous palm | -1 green
legs: esurient walk lvl 2 | -3-3=-6 green
>mentors
NONE
>companions
NONE
>events
NONE
>deaths
self: Yat+Zemlya (suicide + undeath) | -1 pink
unnotable dad: Lesser Yus + Zhivete
unnotable mom: Iotated Lesser Yus
>youth
magical training
power testing
profane lore
other (contact other outsiders)
>goal
patientia

===

The goal of the build is to take no non-unnotable contacts, so it cannot possibly contradict other Tide builds.

I am born a lowly muddish human, to an unnotable dad and mom in Dis.
One day, my mom slowly morphs into two mini-moms like a cell undergoing mitosis. My dad, observing this wondrous event, nearly has his mind split in two - but this doesn't happen, he remains sane, phew.
I try to get into schools to learn magic and necromancy, so I can one day turn myself into a lich. I also try to contact other outsiders, so they can point me towards mentors.
Then, once I'm ready, I tell any outsider friends that I've found that they'd better vouch for me, and I kill myself and become a lich.
If people try and chase me due to toxic anti-lich sentiment, I escape with lvl3 esurient walk. To avoid such situations, I try to travel with other outsiders.
Aside from the lvl3 esurient walk, my powers are largely normal caster powers.

>>96394420
I didn't take all the mental Inborn Gifts and Chaos Eyes for nothin'.
>>96394424
This too. I believe it said somewhere that her understanding of math/science was flawed which is why the magic system has exploitable holes. The way I understand magic to work in this universe, is to have faith in it.

She fucking hates the God-script and the story she has been put into, and uses her own perception reality to bring comfort. Once I tell her why math isn't real and practically the same as God-script, she'll crash out and lose her understanding of her own work as she loses faith in it's reality which will bring everything crashing down. She got injured by a pun. She is mentally weak.

>>96394444 (me)
I'm also sleepy so if there's problems, yell at me.

>>96394444
>One day, my mom slowly morphs into two mini-moms like a cell undergoing mitosis. My dad, observing this wondrous event, nearly has his mind split in two - but this doesn't happen, he remains sane, phew.
I like you, bone man.

>>96394449
>She got injured by a pun
The greatest pun that has ever existed and took days to formulate though.

>>96394455
I've got at least 100 years and mentors.

>>96394452
uoh mini moms

>>96394458
Go get em champ!

>>96394455
days probably more like years

>>96394466
I meant to deploy the pun not to create it

>>96394468
its probably much faster to deploy than that maybe a minute or a few, I don't think you would be able to keep 0^0 at bay for days to be able to use such a thing on her

Is the Respawning Point encounter turning the companion into a Majin?

>decide to drop Everlasting
>go for an extra companion instead
>buy Gunter
>give him Blazhko as a companion
>now I have 6 more characters to weave into the story
I'm never finishing this build, it's over, Charlie is winning.

>>96394444
You still need to purchase the third level of esurient walk with autoantecedence, it merely unlocks the option to have 3 right now autoantecedence isn't doeing anything for you.

Thinking about it probably one of the most potent thing a pro Ecumene outsider do is fix the Ecumenes PR for the next outsider. If you get anyone but Charlie to write those messages in the outsider system they would probably have much higher join rates.

>Finally getting builds with substance.
Excellent, I'll post the first string of reviews and the dream invitation when I can.

>>96394497
Just block the part that explains JNPL's intentions and add a bit of "please aid me in freeing this world, oh sexy outsider" from Charles.

>>96394501
P-P-Purple Truth-sama?!?

>>96394495
do it anon, give up, join the Ecumene and you can get as many elf slave waifus as you want

>>96394514
>anon ends up being betrayed by Charlotte for single-handedly repopulating elves with his huge harem of slaves

>>96394508
yup, just censor out the parts about collective ascension, and you got evil gods torturing and manipulating people for their own amusement for all eternity and the Ecumene is the good guy trying to give humans free will

>>96394345
Also you should not lose your letter unless you go JNPL child route. If 0^0 knows you don't have a letter anymore, she will write you to death by Nilmatrix and good luck getting around that.

>>96394523
I imagine Charlie will just make every child between a non elf and a elf be a non elf in the Ecumene trough deus ex machina out of sheer spite

>>96394528
She can't censor things that Elder Gods actually want you to read, just look at E Nomine.

>>96394538
i don't think JNPL child route will save you if you don't have a letter, Nilmatrix will probably just insta kill you with magic as any death will work on you. A death slot is both your greatest defense and a curse.

>>96394514
Nah, fuck you. Blazhko is going to be an invulnerable dreamfighter and Gunter's team will add the united majin and Exarchate to my grand alliance. Trust.

>>96394494
yes

>>96393971
What's the Thaumiel copy for?

>>96394549
Thought so, just wanted to confirm. Since you get to choose what they look like, that includes their letter right? I haven't read too deeply into Majins.

>>96394543
well then you can then try to change their opinion by adding extra text. Spin a narrative on how the elder gods are enslaving you and making a pawn in their games, how the outsider system is a tool of their manipulation, twisting the fates of the innocent inhabitants like puppets on strings. But you can help defeat these evil beings and free the people of this land from their influence.

>>96394557
Yes anon, make all your male companions into cute demon girls.

>>96394552
Knowledge related to creating inherently magical creatures or things with a conceptual nature like ??? mostly. It'll also just be useful for optimising the very few majin I do actually create. I only plan to make the 45 (Less if I can get other outsiders or important figures to fill in letters) and space them out fairly heavily to avoid not being able to pay them enough attention in their formative years.

>>96394562
>girls
Oh no, no, no it's fuckboi hour.

>>96394557
No, you don't get to choose what they look like as Dei is the one making the template not you

>>96394576
What does this mean?

>>96394584
You can give her Ota or Seo letter and meaning.

So is there any reason not to terraform the Moon into your Uruk spawning base? Plenty of materials to craft more Uruk from and very safe. If you master portal magic you could create some very spicy assault armies to portal into Ecumeme lands.

>>96394592
Unknown amount of caloric
Unknown method of entry
[YRMD] is likely to be unhappy about you bringing uruks to her neet cave

>>96394592
In outer tide?
I already have
Otherwise?
It’s a hassle

>>96394590
Then appearance-wise, he'll look the same just with horns? I can work with this.

>>96394584
Seems so, then you choose the looks and letter it seems. But this does sound like some extreme mind fuckery by the elder gods, how exactly would fate make Dei think up of such a specific template seems like they are just shoving this thing into her head.

>>96394612
The day just so happened to be Az day for Majin production.

>>96394612
Dei thinks of herself (and all Majin) as just tools. By her own philosophy, she has no right to complain about being used as a tool.

>>96394612
>Dei reads with All-Glimpse:
>"And then Dei follows these specific instructions and makes this template"
>Dei is annoyed, but follows up on it

>>96394590
The letter yes, the same meaning, highly unlikely

>>96394623
Template is meaning. That's explicitely said in Seo description. Dei may not know Ota template, but she for sure can create another Seo.

Is there something that would stop me from making Aat adopt me? How would that work?

>>96394628
What's the point in getting to choose the template if there is only one option to choose? That doesn't make sense.

>>96394634
Him being dead dead after fusing with Erginter and losing in usurping the Elder Gods.
The Father Aat option is actually Xian.

>>96394645
I believe you can force Dei to apply any template, meaning you can literally create a copy of Aat this way.

>>96394649
Yes, I was talking about Xian, I know he was Fierted, I was just wondering what does it mean to be adopted by what is the eternal curse.

Could creating a bunch of Majin with Xi etched in them tempt 0^0 into suicide with them?

>>96394628
But Seo is a remembrance not a demonhost summoned template.

>>96394658
Rather than reverse isekai Charlie you should do so to everyone else instead.

Leave Charlie alone in the world with just the Elder Gods as her punishment.

JPNL have mercy on the 12th though...

>>96394652
I think I may have possibly solved how to make an Empyeran through this or at least similar. I'll save it for when I finally post my build.

>>96394665
From Dei description

>>96394658
Probably not, but if you somehow invented a way for her to go back to earth she might accept but really depends if your good enough at convincing her as she might be spitefull enough to kill of the remaining gods first.

>>96394669
yes that is a remembrance, but the respawning point mentions spawning a majin template, so she is using her demonhost not remembrance trough her letter.

>>96394679
That's why you can only get a letter and a meaning but not memories and personality.

>>96394670
pretty sure she is very unwilling to stop being special

>>96394496
Right... I am adding bitter sickness then. Folks might murder me early on due to this, except I am fated to survive long enough to learn 4 languages, by which time I should have contacted the other outsiders and be well on the path to lichification. I hope.
Also swapping treacherous palm for azure wreath, assuming that the blue hair stays somehow.
Also changing picture. An unnotable lich born to unnotable parents should look less aristocratic and more hobo.

>>96392993
>>96394444
version 2

>name
unnotable lich

>patron
[0^0] | +20 pink +20 green
>sex
m
>perks
burn the future x12 | -24 pink +12 green
outer tide
>mother
unnotable (muddish) | +4 pink
>father
unnotable (northerner) | +4 pink
>race
muddish | +1 mentor +3 green
>languages
polyglot
everman (inherited) | +3 pink
simplified duergar | -2 pink +8 green (from 2+1+1+1 mentor, 3 companion)
fay | -2 pink +1 green +1 pink
sylphid | -2 pink +1 mentor
>birthplace
city state of dis - dis | +1 mentor
>gifts
body: unburnt hide, bulletproof skin | -2-4=-6 green
malady: bitter sickness | +4 green
mind: all gifts | -2-2-2-2-2-2=-12 green
sense: all gifts | -2-2-2=-6 green
eye: all-glimpse | -5 green
mark: autoantecedence (esurient walk), blazing seal, azure wreath | -5-3-2=-10 green
legs: esurient walk lvl 3 | -3-3-3=-9 green
>mentors
NONE
>companions
NONE
>events
NONE
>deaths
self: Yat+Zemlya (suicide + undeath) | -1 pink
unnotable dad: Lesser Yus + Zhivete
unnotable mom: Iotated Lesser Yus
>youth
magical training
power testing
profane lore
other (contact other outsiders)
>goal
patientia

===

(same description)

>>96394692
hmm... no she seems pretty willing to do so... she just gonna kill the gods and make everyone equal and not special first as her plans did include destroying the three pillars which would make her lose her god powers.

>>96394716
On the surface that is.

>Elder Gods decide to stop making immortal races to speed up their sublimation plans
>strong nation of immortal elves is a strong holdout against this plan
>they pick one who just so happens to conveniently exterminate them
Anyone else noticing?

>>96392993
>Pick Dice Fudge and Adoption
>Pick a character who gives access to all languages as your adoptive parent
>Refund Godscript for infinite points
>???

Was it that hard to specify "Any but Godscript"?

>>96394732
What would be the point? They are gonna die out eventually

>>96394740
>>Refund Godscript for infinite points
Specifically you can't refund the Godscript.

If you pick Buki as your death, then inflict a True Death on yourself, would that Logic Error Charlotte?

>>96394762
How the fuck are you gonna do that?

>>96394762
You can't. You think you can, but you somehow end up not doing that.

>>96394748
>>96394750
I feel like the characters with All should just specify that they give you all except Godscript, you know there'll be at least one dumbass that thinks they give it.

>>96394768
You gotta be beyond retarded if you are playing with the blessing of JPNL and think you can just do that.

>>96394770
Would it even be one of the top 5 dumbest cases of media illiteracy?

>>96394770
Do you know where you are?

>>96394778
On the one of the 4chan boards that demands a modicum of literacy to earnestly engage in the medium.

>>96394783
We're talking about the thread about escapism where people obsessions with strength and lust (because they don't got any) supercede their logics, where speedreading is rampant and the author's intent is misconstructed in 43 different ways until a WoG.

>>96394794
Excuse me but i always strive to follow the intent of the words

>>96394798
Bold of you to assume everyone is approaching the medium with that attitude.

>>96393069
pick outer tide bro it's free

>>96394804
They should.

>>96394794
considering how many people just go straight for Nilmatrix trap with no plan at all, this is very true

>>96392993
>>96393101
I've updated my build (referred to in the list as "Shirou") one more time to fix an error and add a proper writeup.

>>96394815
Retard moment, the link is the same but I still should have reposted it.
https://rentry.co/3amh4xgw

>>96394814
Eh, there's also people who cannot fathom Nilmatrix being beatable and so consider any build that picks her to be automatically doomed. You cannot just say "if you didn't pick this specific choices you will die", the story is dynamic and even without them a way to beat her would be found, or you can just punch her really hard in the face. It is in part the return of the unbeatable Charlie argument where people take her words at face value and cannot conceive the idea that she's a flawed girl who nearly died to the elves calling her fat poetically.

>>96394840
It was to be expected since Nilmatrix is micro-Charlie.

>>96394847
More of a micro 0^0 in contrast to Omega's micro Charlotte. Nilmatrix shows how far Charlie has fallen while Omega shows how innocent Charlie used to be.

>>96392993
About what age would you say is adulthood for a drakonid? Same as humans or older due to their lifespan?

>>96394814
Unless you really really want Empyreality, the proper way to handle Nilmatrix is not to take her premade encounter and just find her in the wild.

>>96394814
You can't assume that anons didn't plan for it just because builds may lack elaboration.

>>96394872
That's implying you're encountering Nilmatrix in the wild at all.

>>96394840
>elves calling her fat poetically

I have a suspiction that PUNishment that could seriously injure someone who is straight up better than even Elder Gods, at least in direct confrontation, could absolutely roflstomp everyone else in the setting.

>>96394877
The only one I'm not suspicious of is the town dog from my hometown after all, it would truly be surprising if they were the one to betray me.

>>96394877
You will encounter her. Charlie will send her after you anyway. Charlie does not know your choices so she will have to pretend you chose Nilmatrix companion. You can only chose that it will be "a world-shattering betrayal" with a guaranteed empyreality if you win or not bound by fate encounter. If you don't chose Nilmatrix you can dodge her for example.

>>96394882
Nilmatrix was extensively trained in petplay with a Wereplague variant just to catch you off guard.

>>96394882
>Nilmatrix takes wereplague just to ambush you
It would be really funny if that happened.

>>96394840
well that is why I specified without a plan, to defeat Nilmatrix or Charlie you need to make a build tailored to defeating them. Defeating Charlie probably requires way less fate fuckery in your build simply cause you can have way more prep time and acquire resources and powers not provided by the outsider system.

Nilmatrix encounters scripting makes acquiring these extra resources almost impossible as it attacks you just after you finish acquiring your companions this means most of your time will have already been eaten up by resolving the encounters and learning from your mentors.

So if you do not have methods to deal with her via a Dobrava B team or at least Gewgrin note decyphering mixed with something like Zenia to give the narrative punch. There isn't really a way for a build to permanently defeat her. Which will prove mostly detrimental as it might have resulted in a companion casualty and 0^0 now knowing from a early age that you are working against her thus limiting your future prep time and ability to deal with Charlie.

>>96394883
>You will encounter her.
Really? I thought Charlie was simply monitoring Nilmatrix's causality chain to see if somewhere down the line "world-shattering betrayal towards Eleventh" appears, since it implies you took the perk, which in turn make her more aggressive during you run.

>>96394896
That's another interpretation. That's also possible. But in any case if you get Charlie attention, you can wake up in a bed with Nilmatrix one day.

>>96394896
No, she will only learn of who you are when the encounter happens, where she will try to balance it in her favor but Tank mentioned that it will not be some Final Destination unavoidable death. She will know who you are now though and that you killed her main asset if you live.

>>96394896
Yeah she is simply monitoring her, she doesn't even know you chose her until the betrayal happens and when it does she starts pulling deus ex machina bullshit to help her out.

>>96394906
>who you are
She already have the list of the Mothers and Fathers. Just check who have a kid this year and stalk them for a few years to see if they encounter Mentors or Companions.

>>96394915
Unless you're born to two Unnotable Ones.

>>96394905
well yes she can still send Nilmatrix after you even if you didn't choose the encounter, she will just have far less narrative fuckery behind her.

Like fate will literally prevent you from noticing Nilmatrix before the betrayal even if you have All-glimpse or some other detection methods, if you choose the encounter.

>>96394915
You can go double unnotable ones.

>>96394917
>>96394919
Fair, but those builds are on the rarer side.

>>96394918
Since she's aligned with Causality and not Providence, Nilmatrix probably don't need Fate to be undetectable.

>>96394891
The encounter will happen after all other encounters and meetings have passed. This means that in the interim you could have fought in a war, learned the secrets of Empyreality through a hidden note, found ways to kill Empyreans in Tsoshu and gathered the support of nations.
Of course picking choices that can actively help you against her will be a massive boon and that if you pick her you will have to prepare for the encounter from a young age if you want to survive, all I'm saying is that assuming that the given choices are the only way to survive is reductive to the story as a whole. Just look at Keter choices and her results, she managed to seriously make a dent in Charlie and achieve all sorts of feats during her travels but her initial choices don't point towards some specific build or goal.

>>96394891
You can also take "One" as parent and speedrun all encounters before you reach "adulthood". The One is guaranteed to protect you before you reach adulthood.

>>96394917
>>96394919
This will only partially work you would need to take no mentors or companions for complete anonymity or at least Jdan so your events don't happen in the same location as if individuals on the list of companions and mentors start to gather and meet with this one specific fellow living in this one location that is born the same year an outsider is supposed to be born. Well it will raise some suspicions.

>>96394915
>[JNPL]
All according to keikaku

>>96394926
I just call all the predestined outsider system stuff fate, as its all fated to happen.

>>96394915
Jokes on her, I'm from the Horde. But yes, most builds are fucked.

>>96394926
She's using the Outsider system there, that's why that encounter is only so bad for you if you choose it instead of meeting Nilmatrix in the wild. If you choose the encounter Nilmatrix is backed by causality and providence to be undetectable and betray you as the person you least suspect, even if you have All-Glimpse or another method of finding her. Don't do that, and she only has causality bs to hide behind.

>>96394931
Learn from Rhucuphre as well, go full stealthmax.

>>96394946
I'd beat Nimatrix with Providence+Chance+Fate+Causality boost.

>>96394946
Wait no it's Fate not Providence, SRTR made the Outsider system(the others did collab on it, but it's mainly her creation)

>>96394915
>>96394931
There are lots of things happening in the continent at once, a lot of those predetermined. There will be a war between the whites and blues, Apantoxia will exist regardless of you picking her, the Mamet resistance will capture the capital, etc.
Charlie is not omniscient and cannot check every single possible child to see who is the Outsider until they reveal themselves. She's busy running her empire after all.

What exactly does Causality do?
With Nilmatrix she seems to have enforced her not to betray but wouldn't Nilmatrix having a cause to betray just break that?

>>96394952
>She's busy running her empire after all.
An Empire that's still dealing with growing Mamet resistance and the everpresent Uruk roaming in their territory.

>>96394930
>About to get defeated
>One shows up and speedblitzs Nilmatrix into a mountain
>Then Zenia meteor drops on her as a cherry on top
Absolute cinema round 2

>>96394960
Final destination bullshit most likely

>>96394960
It's really just Fate/Providence renamed based on the silly idea that literally any outcome is possible from any given state of the world, like a normal person splitting a mountain in half by just getting gud.

>>96394966
Technically speaking you can hit rocks a bunch of times and they WILL split in half

>>96394952
>every single possible child
No need to check everyone - just what fits the list she was given.

>>96394960
Weaponized butterfly effect.

>>96394883
Not really, it's fated that she will meet you, not something 0^0 will organize, to the point the author mentioned even her won't know who she is and when she will strike.

>>96394965
From Tanks Q&A
>As per her description, she won’t know herself if you’ve chosen Nilmatrix until the Encounter takes place (but it will be easy for her to detect it specifically the moment it happens), at which point she’ll try to rig what events she has there on hand towards Nilmatrix’s victory, but it won’t be any absurd Final Destination bullshit.

>>96394977
Okay milder final destination bullshit

I'm so fucking stupid I'm unsaveable. I just connected the pieces that the reason the Outsider system mainly works through Fate bs is because SRTR made it.

>>96394970
Charlotte is dumb and won't know how to spot us. Trust the plan.

>>96394977
That's only because Charlotte doesn't know your letter and she's afraid of annihilating herself. If you happen to dodge your fated death already and if Charlie knows that, good luck.

>>96394979
It's a pretty meaty CYOA, and some of us had years with the previous version to absorb the finer details.

>>96394981
That's not what that's about, but yes you are fucked if Charlie realized you don't have plot armor anymore.

I wonder what other powers YMRD's avatar has other than Deus Ex Machina. Surely she at least has Everlasting for herself?

>>96394991
Traditional spellcasting is just quoting the Elder Gods as they're the only fluent speakers of God Script so she's probably the ultimate mage build

>>96394970
>just what fits the list she was given.
Let's say Sarmat and his wife have a child the year you are born, and at the same time Sarmat has a child with a mysterious concubine, a little harder to detect, at the same time the cryptkeeper Kapitwlina has a child that's hard to goes unnoticed since she's not a public figure, Charlie would need spies close to whatever location she's in to notice. Meanwhile you were actually born to an assassin dark elf who settled with settled with Stoyan in the desert steppes.
Think about all the possible combinations of parents and locations and all the tracking Charlie would even have to do. Hell, you could be adopted after which all bets are off.

>>96395003
If Charlie's spies are capable of watching every single parent option then it's already over

>>96394991
I do wonder why not many builds have her as a Companion. YMRD's the literal Lore God of the three. If you need essential info, special secrets, or tips and tricks for anything, just ask her.

>>96395016
My singleplayer build has her, just didn't Tide with her

>>96395010
I'd still win.

>>96392993

SRTR

Reincarnation
Male
True Love (Kalliopa Aureole)
Extra Mentor
Extra Companion * 3
Untimeskip (Kashtankka)

Mother
Senamotis Sarmata

Father
Marsaget Sarmat

Races
Human, Southlander

Languages
Polyglot
Everman
Palatiner
Greenspeech
Nymphe

Location
The Exarchate
New New York

Inborn Gifts
Thoroughbreeding
Cognitive Speed
Wisdom
Intelligence
Attentiveness
Spirtual Feel
Caster Intuition
Noble Inclination
All Glimpse
Stigmata
Icon of Icons
Royal Claim

Mentors
Maou
Kashtankka of the Orthrung (companion)
The Keter

Companions
Ciliren of the Orthrung
Blazhko – (Evdokia; Ota; YMRD)
Kalliopa Aureole
Gunter Lilim (Du’um; Darina Tempo-Achaeana; Oko Shtorma)
Omega
Dobrava (A Daring Rescue; A Calm and a Storm; Shadow of the God)
Inga Yesod
Nilmatrix

Encounters
A lone Goblin (The Keter)
A Pack of Goblins (Maou)
Hobgoblin (Ciliren)
A score of Orcs (Blazhko)
A Band of Ogres (Gunter Lilim)
A Troll (Maou)
For Auspicious Beginnings (Kashtankka)
On Sick Leave (Omega)
A Daring Rescue (Inga Yesod)
A Calm and a Storm (Kalliopa Aurole)
Sage of a Thousand and one Treasures (Dobrava)
Remember the Demon (The Keter)
Crown in the Gutter (Maou)
Shadow of God (Nilmatrix)

Death
Buki

Youth
Profane Lore
Theology
Natural Philosophy
Uplifting

Quest
Ameno

>>96395041
>Buki
dead

>>96395042
>fell for her lies

>>96395038
>6 month old anon when Nilmatrix attacks his home with the entirety of the Ecumene's Empyrean army

>>96395045
>Nilmatrix is my babysitter
Ever watched Home Alone?

>>96395041
Did you mix up Blazhko and Gunter?

>>96395045
If 0^0 can no sell a continent killing nuke with fate fuckery then I don't see why not.

>>96395045
Old enough to speak, old enough to rizz.

>>96392993
I'm gonna make Katya adopt me. I can't hold back anymore. The points are calling to me.

>>96395052
She'll send you off to bed without any snacks if you're naughty

>>96395062
Tfw want to True Love her, but it'll just be weird if you have her raise you first

>>96395052
>>Nilmatrix is my babysitter
That would unironically destroy my ability to trust people no matter how the confrontation goes.

How do we deal with Mathemagicians being anti-mages?

>>96395072
Pummel their faces in.

>>96395072
Be better at magic than their antimagic. Yes, everything is indeed dragonball.

>>96395068
She's aware of this too.
>"The baby I'm raising wants me to have sex with him eventually."

>>96395053
No he gets 3 mentors, as I get 3 mentors. So they train him up into something special. That's his special

>>96395072
Just punch them in their stupid faces.
Casterfags, seriously.

>>96395072
Kill them again and again until they're too mindbroken to find their way back.

>>96395072
Tell them that mathemagic is literally just a cypher of ancient elven magic.

>>96395068
You cannot do that if you have her adopt you.

>>96395072
Numerology is anti-anti-magic.

>>96395079
Evdokia, Ota, and YMRD are not Mentors, YMRD could do it but she doesn't want to.

>>96395072
Call them nerds and shove em in a locker.

>>96395072
Charlotte brought gunpowder as she was from earth 2 centuries ago, you can develop something better with modern earth knowledge. Even if you're not a gun maker you'd have general ideas and can help improve the gun tech of the new world. So get better guns and shoot them.

>>96395072
Isn’t it just magic by a different name? I feel like Charlie isn’t smart enough to develop or refine a bulletproof magic system. You could probably code them into oblivion

>>96395041
Missing companion and mentor deaths

>>96395072
Seduce them. The Northerner strat has yet to be patched.

>>96395093
>she was from earth 2 centuries ago
She was from right now. All Outsiders were taken at the same time, they're merely released every century.
Source: qna after the original release of the CYOA from 2022.

>>96395093
I don’t think the original timelines for the Outsiders reflect in-world time. The even the early Outsiders, One aside, reek of modernity.

>>96395093
>modern earth knowledge
Do YOU know how to make modern earth firearms from scratch?

>>96395079
He is supposed to pick from the mentor list

>>96395098
That means no one posting here ever made it to the DM's stack of character sheets

>>96395068
Imagine
>don't True Love her
>get her to love you anyway
>she's convinced you True Loved her

>>96394391
I made an approximation from scratch, only works for outsiders though.

>>96395093
>[Vtorusha] brought [mechas] as she was from earth 2 centuries ago, you can develop something better with modern earth knowledge. Even if you're not a gun maker you'd have general ideas and can help improve the gun tech of the new world. So get better guns and shoot them.
>t. Charlie

>>96395072
I flex on them with my superior irl mathematical skill and then they resign in shame

>>96395109
I've headcanon'd that this would happen to my build and it would lead to an angsty and dramatic confrontation.

>>96395102
If Charlie can create a new magic based off her bullshit understanding of math and physics then I can create a new weapon based off my bullshit understanding of them. If the Second could do it, Lazer guns for everyone.

>>96395111
>brought [mechas] as she was from earth 2 centuries ago,
They come from one of her mentors, she just leaned into it and made them her sole focus.

>>96395122
The Second might have actually been an engineer back on Earth, to be fair.

>>96395109
That's a better storyline than True Loving her outright.

>>96395098
Are all outsiders cyoa players from 4chan or Reddit?

Strokhad + Xet + Boiling blood + bestial strength are an underrated combo. Almost nobody will be physically stronger than you and if they are you will reach their level and surprass them. Magic is the only option

Another mentor + gift underrated combo?

>>96394391
It was the ecumene, she gave the emperor the ideas that lead to him putting his book in code

Rail guns would be the easiest high power tech to bullshit out.

>>96395122
I would imagine her bullshit beats yours since she’s on the seat of providence, especially within the bounds of the Ecumene. It’s probably much easier to undermine her existing system as opposed to making your own and brute forcing it. Not to mention her fucked up “earth” physics don’t work right, so if you try to operate under a superior understanding of earth physics you might fuck yourself

>>96395134
Is that real maths...?

>>96395134
silly anon, x isn't a number!

I'm going to invent the internet and social media. Then everyone will get addicted to shitposting, memes and porn. Checkmate Charles.

It seems pretty clear Keter did not true love Thaum, but was their falling out really from the latter just being a cold bitch? That seems too simple, especially since they lesbian’d a kid

>>96395143
Anon you poor retard, x = x
The only time x can be more then x is when x is infinite, but we don't talk about that with children because it has fewer rules and so you can break it

>>96395134
∞-7=∞
19+∞=∞

>>96395151
>It seems pretty clear Keter did not true love Thaum
From what?

>>96395151
>she actually thought she was a kuudere
I feel a little sad, but it's just too funny

>>96395147
Now that you say that, internet shitposting could have a seriously deleterious effect on the world given the world given the power of the written word and narrative. If you somehow put some dream/nightmare energy into it, you could probably twist the world into something one of those social media corrupted AIs would dream up

>>96395145
That's not x that's Khier you fool!

>>96395151
>It seems pretty clear Keter did not true love Thaum
Why?

>>96395151
She very obviously did
The woman was just a coward at her core, so she left keter to die

>>96395156
From this >>96395157
Unless we think it really is true love and fate gone wrong

>>96395160
Reenacting the plot of SMT Devil Survivor's demon summoning system would be fun.

>>96395160
You're not ready for the Pandemonium falseflaggers destroying reality from their battle stations.

>>96395160
imagine the shitposts between the Dorians and the Ecumene

>>96395160
On that same thought, imagine the fanfiction. The elder gods would love them for that alone since they're on the same level. Imagine if CYOA were created within that universe.

>>96395172
That doesn't prove anything tho? The only thing True Love does is make sure those feelings will appear, it's entirely possible for them to fade from either side. Keter didn't like who Thaumiel really was so it faded on her end, not sure how Thaumiel feels about it.

>>96395186
Hoping this happens for every anon that chose True Love.

>>96395172
Thau still loves Katya and still fights for her cause. It's just that Keter's hate make it impossible for them to be together. If she wins this war, then maybe just maybe Keter will look at her with a smile again.

Do people know that the Elder Gods want them to ascend or is that obscure knowledge?

I don’t care about your disgusting weeb shit

>>96395172
Jeter was the one who called Thaumiel a snake and dumped her. We are likely to think that whatever love was from Thaumiel sided faded after that, specially with how her description calls Katya a sorry mess.

>>96395196
Pretty sure they knew a couple of centuries ago but not sure how well that got preserved.

>>96395160
Imagine the propaganda and misinformation being spread on a massive scale. I saw Charlotte suck orc dicks in the back alley.

what the fuck did katya see in a half-demon nobody for her to use true love

>>96395210
Kawaii kuudere~!

>>96395210
A cute kuudere whose heart she could melt with her love, she was wrong

>>96392993
Which 4 languages net you the highest number of Ancestry Points from the polyglot bonus?

>>96395210
Also Anon: "Oh look, a brown tribal catgirl! Mai waifu!" or anything else like that.

>>96395204
Thaumiel is logical to the point of autism. And Katya is a sorry mess right now.

>I am ONE ancestry point off from getting everything i want
agggghhhhhhh

>>96394344
Bro BTFO'd charlie and nilmatrix all in one fell swoop.

>>96395207
>Charlotte suck orc dicks in the back alley.
>misinformation
...?

>>96395220
We are kin.

>>96395221
>And Katya is a sorry mess right now.
Who wouldn't be after going through a dark souls type boss fight where you keep dying and reviving for multiple days with no rest?

>>96395220
Being an aranaia/dragonid hybrid. Well some people are really into NTR.

>>96395210
You ask that here? You know how many anons would do the same?

>>96395222
Who needs two eyes anon...

>>96395222
Burn your Future.

>>96395222
Just Blessing of SRTR it bro. Come on, nobody's looking.

Do you guys think that the Red Goo encounter is Spako's flesh, we only here about one seperated lump of melted flesh so it has to be that just by narrative rules right?

>>96395230
How many anons took true love anyway?

>>96395220
They're so easy lmao

>>96395222
The Flesh is Weak anon, you can replace anything you MISSED later. It's up to you to SHAPE your future.

>>96395216
All the Kuu and none of the dere.

>>96395222
If you haven't already, Bitter Sickness and Werecurse might as well be free points.

>>96395233
ILLEGAL BUILD

>>96395241
Only if you have good parents

>>96395210
Maybe she didn't get as much good companions as we did. She kinda cute tho.

Evdokia
Any of the princesses
Geminara
Araith (especially if true dragon gene maxxing)
???
Omega
and the incest route
All of them are good romance options (btw, I like how people ignore Zenia got PSTD from being in the box but people want to be in there)

>>96395222
Sell a language

>>96395222
Check >>96392998.

>>96395236
Half.

Is dice fudged Keter adopted parent the most cost efficient parent choice if you sell all languages?

>>96395232
Picking 0^0 as a patron god is asking for trouble

>>96395248
That gives future not past
>>96395241
Guess i could begrudgingly pick werecurse. Would free a single ancestry point so i can pick a different mentor too.

>>96395241
The only explicit cure for bitter sickness means taking an event and hopefully getting the best result. And until then your life will be miserable.

>>96392998
Why do the elf dads mog the elf moms point wise?

>>96395257
>sell all languages
No, you keep whatever is necessary for the right bonuses. Tank added more math, so you WILL do more math, pointslave.

>>96393484
desu, it could be more vague than that. Like it ensures you get into a fight with a god, and Charlie assumes it's her because the rest are out of reach. Maybe you'll defy her expectations and go pick a fight with moon lady, dying to her instead.

>>96395262
Take Sig and you're set. That's what I did.

Wait. If Keter knows "any" language, she should know God-Script too and you will inherit it?

>>96395261
>Guess i could begrudgingly pick werecurse. Would free a single ancestry point so i can pick a different mentor too.
Werecurse is curable and in the mean time you can be a cat acting cute to be hugged between breasts. Just imagine your romantic interest discovers you turn into a cute cat, the work is done.

>>96395271
Not this shit again...

>>96395262
Already picked Jdan and Let the Purgation Begin, baby!

>>96395273
Does this world favor cats or dogs more?

>>96395271
The text lies. She doesn't know the God-Script. TAAAAAAAANK.

>>96395247
>???

You know more or less nothing about her personality, lol.

>>96395271
We caught one

>>96395271
>To know the God-Script is to be an elder god
Use your logic anon.

>>96395279
Depends on the area probably. Ask [YRMD].

>>96395285
Keter is JNPL and Thaumiel is 0^0?

So you're fated to finish all of your Encounters before you reach 25, right? Because you're gathering your party that way.

Can I use adoption to make Thaumiel adopt me as a guy

>>96395219
anyone?

>>96395282
She is the TRUE kuudere with indomitable will.

I don't think JPNL is a shipper she just enjoys romantic drama the same way SRTR enjoys adventure drama. Tragedy or comedy as long as it makes a good story.

>>96392993
Is there a time limit on the death letters? "You will die via x before y time" stuff.

>>96395292
No, female only.

>>96395236
I haven’t posted my build, but I’m not wasting points on shit like that. Depending on how much of “me” is preserved through a second life, I’ll be just fine in that regard

>>96395289
Hopefully

>>96395299
Don't ruin my headcanon. She's a filthy shipfag and that's that.

>>96395247
You also have mentors and can dice fudge any mom to be a possible love interest. And if Dirk mother is any indication, women in OR can safely have children in their fifties.

>>96395300
They're probably on a narrative time limit, whenever it seems most appropriate

>>96395271
What kind of retarded ass question is that? this isn't even a matter of reading comprehension just downright stupidity.

>>96395219
4? No, the combo is 2: Fae, Spriggan.

>>96395262
I feel like with the right companions or gifts you could get through it earlier. Inner Vision or the Sick encounter with a proper mentor come to mind

>>96395300
The lifespan of your race. You'll definitely die from your death letter before you die of old age.

>>96395247
>(btw, I like how people ignore Zenia got PSTD from being in the box but people want to be in there)
She's not built like me.

>>96395300
Natural lifespan's the time limit, but if you have any form of biological immortality, it could be limitless.

>>96394768
>>96394770
>>96395271
In the very same thread, amazing
It's probably bait but still

>>96395305
Have you met female shippers? Bitches love fucked up relationships.

Iirc all outsiders are from around the same time period in our earth.

>>96395323
Shame Katya chose 0v0 instead of embracing her role as the favored daughter of JNPL

>>96395300
Xian's Yat letter triggered 399 years after it was given. I'm guessing they will wait until a dramatic enough moment to hit you. That can be when you are 26 or when you are a hundred.

>>96395289
What I don’t get is how you’re supposed to get all across the fucking world by 25, especially since certain parents or locations make it unlikely you’re on an international trek. Additionally, it would logically make sense for certain companions or mentors to remain with you, however encounters charge extra for participation. You mean I’m meeting a fated companion in Dis, then somehow making my way to another continent to meet a different companion, then we’re all gonna meet up again in the future? Making the encounters gel with my envisioned story is really slowing me down.

>>96395325
I need textual evidence or WoG to trust such a big claim.

>Wine is thicker than water
>Pick Omega
>Omega with true love
>You fucked Charlotte's daughter and also married her while drunk
>She is a tsundere that will act like she hates it but still will follow you

>>96395338
Events are restricted by locations if you don't pick Jdan

>>96395340
Better do it with Katya.

>>96395325
>tfw you knew Charlotte or Katya in real life
>Your interactions are fucked up because of your paths, but the memories haunt both of you
It will make the confrontation bittersweet.

>>96395339
NTA but I remember it too.

>>96395338
It's like [JNPL] says in the location section, events will be contrived enough for things to come to pass, just know that the more unlikely they are, the more likely they are to screw you over. Just look at Charlie's family becoming slaves because she sent them alone to another continent.

>>96395349
Omega > keter

>>96395348
Yeah, that’s my problem. I need to be all over the damn place by 25 even though I have bitter sickness and a diplomat mother

>>96395311
But that pretty much locks me out from most my mentors and companions. Having at least Everman is mandatory.

>>96395355
Nah. The point is Keter will know that you planned this all but will still stick together with you because that's written in the encounter.

>>96395357
Learn everman by yourself. Stop piggybacking on fate for everything.

Why are you all so incompetent?

>>96395356
>>96395354
Bro's getting kidnapped/randomly teleported across the world while battling his incurable disease

>>96395356
Stop being sick.

>>96395361
That sounds abusive.

If I romance Jdan can we fuck on the throne and fuck through time?

>>96395361
Omega's genuine reactions to it are better than keter knowing you decided it all

>>96395363
Retard-kun, the cyoa won't let you pick mentors if you don't share a language with them at birth. If it was just about learning more then we'd all do that

>>96395363
>was about to ask how to learn language without the system
it's over for me

>>96395366
>As Vtorusha soul drifts aimlessly through the nightmare, she feels something pounding on her head, alongside annoying moans
>Great, another king fucking on my corpse

>>96395376
>the cyoa won't let you pick mentors if you don't share a language with them at birth.
You can pick them but the cyoa remarks that you are gonna need to speak the language if you want to actually learn from them

>>96395376
Readlet-kun, you need to learn their language to speak with and learn from them, not pick them. You're thinking of the companions.

>>96395382
>>96395385
Both you assholes are right, quietened just got a lot better

>>96395363
Ain't nobody have time to learn a bajillion languages while three apocalypses are happening at the same time. Everman also costs no points.

>>96395388
>Everyone starts being adopted by Keter because of points autism
>Their childhoods are a miserable experience since she's a mess who has to take care of you and they will be so traumatized from the experience that they will surrender to Charlie

>Pick 0^0 as a mentor
>tell her I saw the letter that could get her home and write it for her
>tell her it's up to her to figure out the rest
>she stops her bullshit and focuses on figuring out the meaning and how to apply it to herself, leaving me the fuck alone.

>>96395403
...Do you think being fated to learn them means you just have knowledge injected to your head? The more languages you pick, the more time you will spend learning languages. If anything, not picking fated languages may be the most time efficient.

>>96395403
You are being born as a child if you fail to learn everman when your parents speak it then man i don't know what to tell you either your parents fucking suck or you suffer a SEVERE skill issue

>>96395407
>Everyone starts being [...] because of points autism
>Their childhoods are a miserable experience
The Charlotte parrallels are only getting funnier.

>>96395407
Just pick One as another parent. He will fix her.

>>96395363
>almost free options to learn a language no matter what
>leaving it up to chance
retard

Just now realizing Charlotte's life is I Hate Fairyland

>>96394548
>Nah, fuck you. Blazhko is going to be an invulnerable dreamfighter
Which mentors would be needed to achieve that?

>>96395414
What are the other Charlotte parallels?

>>96395425
>Unwilling to take a bit of complication to take a hold of the language bonuses should they be of use for the build

>>96395425
>thinks it's actually free

>>96395429
>...Send. Me. Home.
She was not, in fact, sent home.

>>96395465
If she was you think she would meet the same fate realizing earth is worse after spending so long in OR?

>>96395416
Would using Multiocular O with two different All-Glipses allow you to Autoantecedence them?

>>96395514
you can't do that

>>96395514
You cannot take Multilocular O and All Glimpse at the same time anon.
Please read carefully before asking.

>>96395525
Technically it seems that you can but it is useless

I'll let you choose

>>96395536
>>96395536
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>>96395539
Bro the last thread reached a thousand why are you in a hurry

>>96395525
Wrong, the combination is illegal due to Autoantecedence needing a choice that normally can be upgraded twice.

You can take Multi and All-Glimpse at the same time but it is a waste since Multi loses it's main functionality.
Unless you want to do shenanigans with All Glimpse and the final Warmachia.

>>96395478
Depends.
I'd say her character is defined by her thirst from freedom - from the Eldar ruling over her family, from the Eldar Gods, from her past mistakes, from the Letters, from (You). Telling her about the Outsider System was a mistake because she'll never be content living like a rat in maze.

On Earth, without clear divine intervention and scripted events, she could think everything is born out of causality, which makes her free. That's why she's still talking about her wish to go back despite being so entrenched in the Usurper plot - her truest wish is to live the comfy slice-of-life Providence lifetsyle, and she's mentally unable to in this world.

>>96395552
unfortunately for her there is no Providence on earth.

>>96395434
I was thinking of Zlata+Upunth.

>>96392993
If one's parents are human and beastfolk and you want the human mechanical benefits, there's no reason (other than social) to not be a hybrid, right? Free Longevity.

>>96395557
NTA but she'd mistake Causality for it.

>>96395552
I CAN FIX HER

>>96395557
Nostalgia is a pretty thing, isn't it?

>>96395569
Human/beastfolk don't get Hybrid Disease, readlet.

Another pokemon card collected.

>>96395569
>Mix of two different kinds of human
>It's Human/Miscellaneous
>Two different kinds of lifespan inborn gifts
Anon seems to be on the free