Thread 96478474

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Gift of Faves Slop, hot, fresh and sloppy.

Anyone got any good CYOAs where you're a wizard? Ideally summoning focused. I'll even take anime slop ones - not fate faggotry.

how important is Rhucuphre as a mentor if you're going for dream stuff? I know she was behind the beginning of pandemonium, but she's so expensive, and all she's guaranteed to teach you is some admittedly high level stealth stuff.

Also, anyone have an idea how strong Upunth's dream stance stuff is supposed to be? seems like it's allow some pretty high tier nonsense.

>>96478603
finally, oc

>>96478608
From her description, she is the best source of dream knowledge in the setting. The problem is actually convinving her to share it.

>>96478675
I don't know Jujutsu Kaisen.

15
>Intellegence
10
>Friendly Spirits
0

>>96478608
If you can get her to teach more than the minimum the Outsider system provide, she likely is the most knowledgeable about dream even if she focus less on her dream research and more on her revenge in the past millennium.

>>96478675
>No eternal youth
UNPLAYABLE!

here's the better jujutsu kaisen cyoa

reminder that jjk was made for fujos and gays and reinforces gayness

>>96478880
Where are the negatives?

>>96478889
it is rapidly emasculating men and giving women power over them; you need only look at that recent kpop movie that came out on netflix to see just how cringe and gay pop culture has become

>>96478894
Care to explain to the class why you're monitoring Netflix K-Pop movie releases?

>>96478906
because I always monitor the things I hate :)

Gojo is for molestation.

>>96478907
Ape you are, mindlessly pursuing emotional reactions regardless of quality or lasting happiness and making up flimsy justifications to feed your obsession.

>>96478907
Gangnam style was good imo. All other K-pop sounds really uninspired. I'd expect pop music to be catchy (like ABBA), but K-pop other than gangnam style is never even catchy. Yet somehow it fills some kind of niche. Even if it's about optics, wouldn't it be better if the music was good/catchy as well? A mystery.

I'm not attracted to anime boys because I know they're Japanese and no amount of 2d animation will convince me otherwise.

>>96478965
why do you not like the japs anon?

>>96478965
japanese boys are cute though...

>>96478989
They are uncanny valley.
>>96478994
They don't smell like anything.

>>96478998
ah, i see, you're a boysmell inhaler like sand

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Know what setting has a lot of cute boys? Fate.

>>96478608
>anyone have an idea how strong Upunth's dream stance stuff is supposed to be? seems like it's allow some pretty high tier nonsense.
Upunth is the best "Magic Martial" mentor by a wide margin, he handily bears Xet and Zlata in their respective strengths (Reality Warping Hax >>> Rage Strength Boost/Defensive Aura). Only a combination of their two styles could pose a threat to him. Also remember how his description says that even he himself hadn't reached the full potential of his style. So the limits are still blurry given even greater credentials to it.

>>96479062
anal rape
strangle her

Hey, Anons, I'm the creator of the latest "unplayable" cyoa. Full adventure: https://www.imgchest.com/p/lqyemdxdx7d

I need feedback on the companions. Specifically on those that are bad and I should throw them out, and suggestions for companions to add (bc I just writing in random ideas and I feel like I missed some must-have archetypes).

>>96480073
Weird how you can't help Medea in her goal even if you're a psycho chimera.

>>96480073
I honestly didn't care about companions much (and was proven 100% right while playing through it, can't kill all the companions if you don't have companions). I was extremely confused at the realm/quest structure however. What you should've done IMO:
1. There shouldn't have been any starting stat divergence between isekai/realm start, it's just needless math and CYOA forces you to look back at options you selected and subtract your class stat bonuses if you selected isekai, for example. Should've been just linear addition with every option giving you +n to stat so you could select isekai and a class and a realm or whatever.
2. Claimed realm starts should've been expanded and broken into several choices instead of being a single choice. Because I for the love of me couldn't comprehend how many conquest quests I should've gone through one after the other, depending on which realm I was in. I think I went through 3 including conquering the orcs, and reading the same page 3 times in a row is not that fun. Perhaps you should've just listed the realms and fluff for them so instead of the general "claimed realm" you could start in the Empire, Union etc., then made conquest quests exclusive to the realm in question. That would've required more work but at least you could actually play through the CYOA without gettin an aneurism.
3. The whole premise of being cursed for who the fuck knows what adds nothing to the multiversal war storyline except building resentment in the player (as we find out later, it's actually the multiverse's spite or whatnot so it's even worse because it's not even your fault you get royally fucked). I also didn't find any option to turn yourself into undead or something similar (dragging your soul to the phylactery when you turn to dust might've been one way to try to cheat it) despite Dark mentioning creating undead. I was banking on that and selected soul + dark but it turned out to be a nothingburger.

>>96480872
Hmm... Adding more undead options is a good idea. I've overlooked that.

>>96480073
If you want to increase enjoyability of play have more degrees of success and failure than just you win or you get permanently enslaved/killed. Also have all options start with only one piece of the combo and have the connected pieces add more points successively so your rewarded for finding interesting comboes rather than punished for not thinking of the authors exact ideas.

>>96481472
What you are suggesting is getting rid of the endings and just leave open-ended outcomes that imply combinations between themselves. This requires from reader ability to read between the lines. This doesn't work, as the endings was added PRECISELY because during fist testing and feedback people were obsessively complaining about the curse like fucking possessed by something.

I added the curse here to test one of my concepts of explaining re-spawn mechanics like in games, basing lore on classical polish Upiór legends (modifying it a little, to not give the reader more weakness). I haven't even comprehended that this would aggravate people so much it did. Like, wtf? There is so much cyoa about afterlife, that one with the concept that you eventually die should be a no issue. But for some reason NO.

Anyway, I'll be working on widening the options and making the Realmverse narration more flexible, but the thing is that 90% of reader problems with the Curse of Immortality is not me and stiff options I give, but the readers hyperfocus on it.

Anyway, I was asking about companions. You seriously haven't picked anyone?

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>Chronological Build List
A Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479399
Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459760
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480941
Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603
Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96379796
The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522
Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399
The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145
Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847
Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717
Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856
Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452392
The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837
Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021
Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919
Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372
The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011
Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96467167
Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447556
Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479706
Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910
Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017
Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399427
Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248

>>96481733
Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560
Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221
King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022
Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302
Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724
The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963
Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218
Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496
The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523
Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577
Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173
One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498
Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568
Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916
HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920
Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458
Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015
Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883
Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679
Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141
Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436
Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96463819
He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341
Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292
Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422

>>96481745
Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560
Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221
King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022
Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302
Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724
The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963
Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218
Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496
The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523
Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577
Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173
One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498
Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568
Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916
HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920
Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458
Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015
Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883
Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679
Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141
Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436
Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96463819
He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341
Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292
Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422

>>96481745
Avi - Demonic Dragon Sage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96446382
The Silk Matron https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452816
The White Prophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96454351
Led https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96458991
Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459966
Ars Goetia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96461924
Thaumaradrak https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96468757/#96471990
Valar https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96471461
Inbred Aureole https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96477816
Rap God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479391
Alfrent (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480079

>>96481745
Glagoli doesn't have anyone who took either Eirina or Leimele(Fir had her, but he's a toybox build)

>>96481619
I'm gonna be honest I just picked the most tolerable one who didn't share any abilities with me. The animal companions seem rather unfleshed out with only two unique ones which makes the entirety of animal handling look completely worthless on a first run through and even after given very little suggestion is given of how they can actually be used, signposting these things would be good.

In terms of humanoid companions I would say that Shas and Kurara are the least interesting to interact with on a cursory run through Kurara because she's kind of mundane and Shas because he's a schizo who would probably be unfun to interact with. Add some earth based companions with a gun focus as well Mingaile is the only one who even tries at guns vs magic, a crazy scientist or manipulative politician would be cool.

I wasn't talking about endings I was more thinking of the individual events, honestly I don't care about the curse, 100 years is enough for me since I'll be a gigachad saviour of the planet by the end anyways.

>>96481791
Yes, it is a legacy intersection left over from the previous anon, who counted Dirked mentors as overlapping. I didn't want to redo half the table by so it remained in place.

Guess I'll try to slot someone from the hermitage there, when I update it.

>>96478675
>Immense CE
>Curse Energy Skill
>Intelligence
>Shikigami
Honestly don't see what else you need. Nothing really says we have an innate technique so having Shikigami expertise is great for making up for the lack of it, and having CE skill on par with Sukuna is just insane. Stack that with Intelligence and enough Cursed Energy to make use of it and we got an extremely strong Shikigami user with enough creativity and skill to handle any situation.

>>96481745
>Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560

>1.
lacks Quest
>2.
starts in New New York, ignoring language requirements
>3.
the points don't work out. Of course Mr. Arc could simply remove the Burn Future/Past actions to resolve this
>4.
can't pick the mentor due to not knowing her language
>5.
lacks Race
>(6.)
does companion "nil" mean no companion, or Nilmatrix? If the latter, again language requirement is failed

Am I autistic for even making this post

>>96481733
Outer Reincarnation unofficial DLC

Due to irl, I'm not going to be able to finish this tonight. I've forgotten how long it takes to find decent images. It's is playable, just ugly. If it is well received I may continue it next week. Don't take it too seriously and have fun.

>>96481880
One cannot expect more from a joke build.

>>96481880
I'm wondering why you're tracking mistakes at all, unless it's your build of course.

>>96481880
Your not only autistic your also wrong on several accounts, you don't actually need purchased languages for mentors, you can learn the language in universe through profane lore or journey of self discovery as per WoG. Nil obviously meant none in this case.

Rolled 4, 2, 5, 1, 13, 12, 12, 5 = 54 (8d20)

>>96481902
Here I go.

>>96481784
There were a couple new Tiders last thread. See >>96477816 and >>96480067

>>96481910
>you don't actually need purchased languages for mentors, you can learn the language in universe through profane lore or journey of self discovery as per WoG
What, really? WoG keeps surprising me. Source?

>>96481880
In any other case I'd say it is illegal, but it is a living meme that has no overlaps with others, so who cares?

>>96481921
Anon how are you learning languages IRL?

>>96481923
Me. It's illegal and should be treated as such no matter how """""funny""""" he is.

>>96481921
I too would like to see this WoG, since it seems to contradict the text of the CYOA

>>96481918
>>96477816
Already added.

>>96480067
Missed this. Added for next time.

Rolled 15, 20, 17, 17, 5, 5, 20, 19 = 118 (8d20)

>>96481902
R O L L

>>96481935
I'll leave a note next to it then.

>>96481923
>>96481935
It's really easy to fix though, there's just purchases that could be noted and it'd be valid.

>>96481935
Why are you obsessed with the legality of others?

Rolled 4, 20, 19, 7 = 50 (4d20)

>>96481916
I haven't see the childhood events. Rolling again.

>>96481916
Suffering builds character

>>96481964
Because people are making funny tide worlds

>>96481950
Your parents are really trying their best for you. I hope you gave them good letters.
>>96481916
>>96481993
Incoming 0^0 2.0

Rolled 7, 18, 6, 11, 19, 19, 20, 1 + 4 = 105 (8d20 + 4)

>>96481902
Lets see how things go YMRD patron declared now to keep me honest

>>96481993
Where have you found childhood events?

>>96481733
>Patron God: 0^0
>Reincarnation: Extra Mentor, Extra Companion, Burn the Future x4, Outer Tide
Mostly posting this to "canonize" it in my mind since I picked the Tide. Every solo build I tried ended up unfun since I felt I must pick certain things to stand a chance, and in a scenario like this I wouldn't pass MP option.

>Mother: Thonodreth-From-Agartha (Yest' + Zhievete)
>Father: Aat
>Races: Majin
She seems pretty laid back about demons, which is a good trait for mother of a cursed demon baby.

>Languages: Polyglot, Quietened (Late Thulean), Palatiner, Sylphid, Spriggan, Entramithraic, Tutored (Palatiner x1, Entramithraic x4)
Raking in points from companion slot with Palatiner. Not proud of spreading Entrashit everywhere, but my allies had such scattered languages...

>Inborn Gifts: Ethereal Beauty, Bulletproof Skin, Longevity, Misalliance (Sight Beyond Sight, Blazing Seal, Dead Sprint), Memory Retention, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Wisdom, Intelligence, Cognitive Speed, Caster Intuition, Eye for Shadows x3, Grim Outlook x2, Inner Vision x1, Starsight x2, Autoantecedence, Multiocular O, Kneeling Twilight x2, Seraphic Wings, Letters of the Damned, Daemonhost
Magic and information related mind & eye gifts, making demons and cursed items for a DIY army, and flying & anti-bullet. For Eye for Shadows x3 I'd say it extends the unseeability effect to work just by the target entering my sight (so someone hiding or out of sight could still see me). As for Letters of the Damned I rolled letter & concept and got Dobro & luck, which is always useful (though not something to trust one's plans on).

>>96482053
Underneath the rest, they have numeros.

>>96482056
>No thoroughbreeding
NGMI

>>96482077
We don't know if she doesn't have Tenyota.

>>96479583
>The 3 point generalist mentor is better than the 3 point specialist mentors in their specialties
Nah

Rolled 12, 9, 4, 17 = 42 (4d20)

>>96482031
Poor environment - Probably a siege from 0^0 destroying stuff for a while and maybe forcing us into hiding?
True love - Ayyy YMRD got my back
Sparse Time - My parents have useful skills so this is fine
Friendly Peers - Nice, this is good for companions.
Profound Knowledge - M-my knees, YMRD san most gracious of the godesses I kneel
Beloved - Guess I'll be a popular king when that time rolls around
Ping pong player - Alright, I guess I'm definitely in hiding
Absent - And they couldn't come with, well that's sad.
Rolling for events

>>96482056
>Location: Empire of Light & Dark / Exarchate, Hexland
Demon Empire of Dark & Light start. I'd be in good position to meddle in that conflict, though I'm not going to use fate assist here, and rocking the boat at this point seems counterproductive anyhow.

>Mentor: Herleva, Kashtanka (Glagoli), Nezvana (Zelo), Mlada (Shta + Zemlya)
Necromancy (escaping death letters by going demi-lick seems good, though I'll hold in case better path comes first), and "meta" skills of copying magic, comboing skills & gifts, and boosting gift use. Basically hoard magic and combine it smartly.

>Companion: Caeda (Her'v' + Zhievete)
She's effectively a teleporter and it should be copiable with Mlada's teachings. The best mobility skill in the cyoa IMO. With that and Daemonhost I could build up forces in places most inconvenient for 0^0 or bug off if I'm about to lose a fight and generally be global nuisance.

>Encounters: A Pack of Goblins, A Hob A Lean A Hobgoblin, A Band of Ogres, A Score of Orcs, A Bridge A Toll A Troll, A Daring Rescue (Mlada), Ready Aim Thunder (Nezvana), Interested And Dissolved Parties (Caeda), Immortal Coils of Intrigue (Herleva), Breaking and Entering (Kashtanka, gate to: Kita)
Laa di laa, Uruks can't see me...

>Death: Vedi
>Youth: Martial Training, Power Testing, Profane Lore, Leadership Training
>Quest: Patientia
Work in shadows to help others win. After I'm done with the starting location stuff (and sneaking around reading magic books / peeping at wizards casting), I'll use the (hopefully intact) magic gate to enter Tsoshu in force and start harassing Ecumene every which way. Using demons and cursed items with Eye for Shadows should make for a pretty good gorilla warfare unit, and necromancy provides both cannonfodder and way to recover losses. If other Outsiders are taking active approach against 0^0, I'd be open for coordinating efforts, though I can't be the spearhead of attack on her due to my blessing / quest limitations.

>>96482077
I can't believe he took Ethereal Trash instead of Thoroughbreeding.

Rolled 3, 6, 8, 12 = 29 (4d20)

>>96482017
I gave them decent letters, I think.
>>96481950 >>96481902
Second roll. ChildhoodAnon, you really should've just said roll 12d20

>>96482090
No, you need both
And either icon of icons or deamon host
Else you fade away into the backround

>>96481940
Do you need to know a language in the Outsider system in order to choose a mentor?

Yes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/makeyourchoice/comments/1mwbkpv/comment/nb52qpw

He's just a retard.

>>96482083
YMRD(Final Letter) - Hearing Voices - This one seems fitting to switch too, perhaps I dream about how to destroy the world with Izhitsa or the location of Omega.
Beastial Friends - I'll take a pet turtle, perhaps I can increase its intelligence with magic and it can use its lifespan for good.
Injury - I fall over and break my arm on the floor at age 5 because no one was looking after me, this leaves me unable to safely return to Stygia due to lacking the ability to defend myself.
The Marked One - I would never leave a man out to dry like that, I can take the rep hit.
Build is qoppa theta lyudi, this gives me a good reason to begin work on my daemons early. Very cool DLC fun to work out a story for it.

>>96482101
>ChildhoodAnon, you really should've just said roll 12d20
You're right, thanks. If I continue it next week, I will update it.

>Charlie is injured
>Her Deus Ex Machina is limited to line of sight
>her main method of attack, assigning you death letters, doesn't work if you don't have a death slot (undead)
>even Keter dodged this attack 1000 times over
>her other main ability is Causality, which isn't even magic
>other than that she just has regular mathemagic + empyrean shit + her gifts
Stop glazing this fucking jobber. One solos

>>96482116
My bad, I swear I heard it somewhere but I probably should've looked for a primary source.

Rolled 17, 16, 13, 4, 14, 7, 5, 6, 7, 11, 4, 13 = 117 (12d20)

>>96481902
rollan around at the speed of sound

>>96482162
Anons overestimate 0^0 almost as much as they underestimate her

>>96482162
>Her Deus Ex Machina is limited to line of sight
Where did you obtain this information?

>>96481733
After toying around with new builds and a lot of choice paralysis, I just decided to update my old build from the first outer tide. Illior of the Doria.
Feel free to put me in this outer tide, but I'm not going to try figuring out how it could fit right now.

Last time I didn't have any leverage for pulling the Old Throne into an alliance. Now I have Jdan's son as a companion. Stoyan is also no longer the biological father to get his inborn gifts, and the adoption perk was dropped entirely. Misalliance does it cheaper now. lots of other little changes while keeping the same flavor.
Dirk Yesod's mentorship comes from Eirina and Rucuphre if that wasn't clear enough.

>>96481902
Rolling for Liadan. Let's see how a family life of One and Rhucuphre looks like!

dice+12d20

>>96482179
Its almost as if her abilities are intentionally somewhat vague so that you can scale her to the story you want to tell.

>>96482191
Can someone say what did I do wrong?

>>96482191
There's a fucking pinned post explaining how to do this on this very board.

>>96482056
Shit I forgot about the name... Demon names seem to be very short... let's go with Aera ("air" or "mist" in Greek).

>>96482201
Put it in the email or "options" field.

>>96482186
>Raise
>Reaction time
Incongruous
Also, you need to pay for 3 copies to get anvhjifbvi, so for the swap to work you would need to already have 2

>>96482162
>Assigning death letters to Keter
She definitely didn't do this. Keter is half-empyrean (she wouldn't have a death slot otherwise), and a death letter in a half-empyrean works like pixies' Perpetuity, taking revival into account in enacting the fate. She wouldn't just be able to corpse run repeatedly to escape like she did if that were what happened.

Rolled 14, 9, 6, 12, 6, 17, 15, 8, 1, 10, 9, 14 = 121 (12d20)

>>96482191
Ok, I am an idiot. Let's try this again.

>>96482185
Tankista

>>96482223
Pretty sure she did do that. Explains how Keter got so good at cheating the death letters.

>>96482116
The mentor section description is sylen tier misleading. Almost no one thought that you need to know a language in the Outsider system in order to choose a mentor, as evidenced by the builds and discussion.

>>96481916
>>96481993
>4, 2, 5, 1, 13, 12, 12, 5
>Hostile Environment
>Hateful
>No Time
>Hostile Relationship
>Average tutelage
>Wordly Traveler
>Absent
>4, 20, 19, 7
>Injury, Treasure Map, Wandering Flying Circus, Kidnapped

All things considered, I won't write misery porn on /tg/.
She's getting jarred though.

>>96482242
Surprisingly wholesome, even a strained but tolerated relationship is kinda expected.

Aaaand I got cursed again. Now I have 4 curses, including Eternal one!

>>96482253
Fucking speedreaders the lot of them. Next time read instead of hyping up your shit OC.

Rolled 2, 7, 4, 10, 14, 6, 16, 16 = 75 (8d20)

>>96481902
SRTR bless my rolls!
Please!

>>96481857
Yeah, this is pretty much my build too. Sukuna's understanding of cursed energy is an insane thing to be able to purchase and that (along with the barest shred of being able to interact positively with human beings) would turn you into Gojo's only peer overnight.
All the rest? Just icing on the cake. I'm not completely sure about what ultimate Shikigami skill would look like, but since Shikigami are just like, artificial curses, it sounds like you'd basically be Geto 2.0 except you'd make the curses yourself.

The only alternative I considered was just going all in on CE as:

>Sukuna's Skill
>Intelligence
>Immense Cursed Energy x 4

Yuta's insane cursed energy is remarked on a lot. Having double would basically just make you into 'ersatz Sukuna', because you'd have a comparable level of CE to the guy and his talent too.
I think it could be argued either way whether that's better than Shikigami however. Afterall we don't get to choose our innate technique so we probably won't be able to immediately fight equally with Sukuna even with this.

I'd prefer the Shikigami build for the sheer utility: doing shit like riding a dragon I made around or whatever sounds awesome. But if forced to choose I might well pick ersatz Sukuna just because of genre savvy. In the world of JJK the guy who punches people in the face is probably safer than the guy who sits back and lets his minions fight.

>>96482283
Victim blaming, good one.

>>96482222
Shit, you're right. I'll fix this later.

Charlie is just SRTR’s sock puppet. All of history was fabricated to set her up as the perfect villain for my story.

Trve Dragons proved right yet again

>>96482252
She just had a mentor to help with cheating death. Oilea of the Orthrung. She was more theoretical and Keter put her ideas into practice. Again, the corpse-run shit that we know Keter did (thanks to Thaumiel's entry) wouldn't have worked if 0^0 were just spamming death letters, because of how half-empyreality interacts with death slots.

It's also worth considering that Keter was still in the middle of her Buki at the time of their confrontation, so while 0^0 could fulfill that fate by attacking her spirit, it's unlikely that 0^0 could write a new fate just yet.

>>96482303
Yes, it is customary to understand that bad judgement is the punishment of its own crime.

>>96482283
I choose to ignore this because I can't be assed to remake my build for a nitpick (It wouldn't even change what I learn it would just mean more death slot shennanigans because I can't use dirk) I also have no idea whats stopping two people with all-glimpse from communicating by looking at each other but oh well.

>>96480073
You have both muscle mommies and cute boys so I can't really complain with the companion lineup.

Rolled 5, 7, 20, 10 = 42 (4d20)

>>96482296
Sadly seems to fit for my build, at least I'll have a lot of friends growing up, and my parents love me even if they don't love each other. +1 to peers

>>96482321
Of course you're an All-Glimpser.

>>96481902
Lets see what fate has in store for me.

>>96482321
>I also have no idea whats stopping two people with all-glimpse from communicating by looking at each other but oh well.
You can consider it a purely meta and mechanical thing, similar to the points themselves, or to how you can pick exactly four options for Youth and not five. What are the options in the process of making a build, and what the character constructed by the build can do, are two quite separate things.

>>96482253
I'm not auditing builds, but I've definitely seen people using Tutored: Everman or using Entramithraic billingual to meet language requirements for characters they want to take. I think you just didn't read.

Rolled 11, 17, 19, 10, 17, 10, 8, 3 = 95 (8d20)

>>96481902
Lets see what fate has in store for me.

Fresh Isekai OC!
https://altcyoaisekaitheend.neocities.org/

>>96482341
A minority. What part of "almost" did you miss? What proof do you have that they thought differently from others and weren't just trying to game the system? Those everman builds thought that doing so was free like as if they found an exploit and quickly backtracked once their mistake was pointed out.

>>96481733
New lore dropped in the google drive.

>>96482394
I can't wait to dismantle these guys for good.

>>96481902
>>96482345
>11, 17, 19, 10, 17, 10, 8, 3
Housing Environment: Average
Parental Partnership: Decent
Personal Time: Decent
Peers: Friendly
Mentoring: Average Tutelage
Community: Accepted
Traveling: A Couple of Vacations
Parental Involvement: Absent

I'll take it.

>>96482423
Filthy majin shouldn't be posting here.

>>96482442
I'm not a Majin, but I am the empress and technically a demon lord and they kept attacking Dis when I was a child so I hate their guts. Sucks for them, shouldn't slaughter Majin for no reason, now they get dismantled.

>>96482442
Ok, mudskin

>>96482373
Do you have numbers backing your claims up, or are you just insisting that everyone else made the same mistake as you without evidence? Because I saw other people making an effort to follow the rules, and I now see you getting mad and insisting without evidence that everyone did it. Auditor-anon would've caught more illegal builds if it were as common as you say.

>>96482468
>pretending to be ignorant
Lol, I won't waste my time with you. The facts are clear as day.

>>96482479
So you don't have evidence. Got it.

What's he planning?

>>96482446
You know that Thaumiel invited them, right

>>96482503
>He's already writing the autism years in advance
How does he do it?
How can I attain this heavenly tism?

>>96482503
Another update, with Charlie's Left Hand and hookers.

>>96482296
>>96482329
>Housing Environment
Hostile Environment
>Parental Partnership
Negative Partnership
>Personal Time
No Time
>Peers
Loyalty
>Mentoring
Average Tutelage
>Community
Tolerated
>Traveling
Worldy traveler
>Parental Involvement
Team ups
Seems I'm being punished for being a bad matchmaker, but at least I'm loved by my peers, parents, and mentors.
>Events
Uruk Attacks: Holy shit, I hate these Uruks so fucking much. I'm getting jumped by Uruks throughout my childhood.
Kidnapped: . Hope this is just Jdan helping me with my encounters, but I doubt my luck's that good, so it's probably fucking Uruks again
Treasure map: I know it's my own fault, but I'm a little surprised SRTR gave me her toybox after arranging for me to be jumped by even more Uruks.
Classmate: What kind of student would Dirk accept?

>>96482506
Yeah my mentor is a scheming evil bitch, I know. Does that somehow excuse the Daemonhunt?

>>96482534
Just saying that if you're willing to individualize her betrayal down to her specifically, you should probably be willing to individualize the actions of rogue demonhunters down to the rogues specifically.

are succubi majin a thing

>>96481733
>>96482186
Illior does not posses ethereal beauty, just like the last tide. The previous image claiming otherwise should be ignored.

>>96482566
You can take Demonhost and make them a thing.

>>96482577
Forgot image.
Hopefully no other mistakes, as I won't have time to fix them.

>>96482585
You need to take those legs 3 times for autoan.

>>96482566
No, succubi are a kind of insect equivalent in appearance and role to a mosquito, they come after you when you're having wet dreams and spread the real Bitter Disease.

>>96482585
Only small nitpicks that bug my autism: it's "Oculus of Human Goodness" and Flowing Gait should be x3 since Charlie's Autoantecedence Hand of Infinity had it too.

>Malkuth is the edgy kingdom full of necromancy, dark magic and cursed knights
>Their king is ailing from a horrible affliction
>No one wants to depose him, they’re all proud of him for dealing with it and pissed off he got it to begin with

What made the people of Malkuth so loyal?

>>96482616
Evil mom willing scapegoat

>>96482616
JNPL fanatics that turned mad after she died who now place their hopes of reviving her in their All-Knowing King that made their kingdom crimeless.
>>96482626
This too.

>>96482563
>Rogue
You actually buy that excuse? You know how these organizations work. They officially but on the down-low send agents on a controversial mission then disavow them in public while congratulating them in private.

>>96482616
He is handling all crime before they happen making it a pleasant place to live.

>>96482531
>What kind of student would Dirk accept?
Someone to take his place? An heir? I don't know shit about Dirk though.

Rolled 20, 15, 15, 3, 18, 13, 3, 16 = 103 (8d20)

>>96481902
I bet it'll be as cursed as on the original.

>>96482616
It's the mythical phenomena "effective governance".

>>96482634
I wouldn't buy that excuse normally, but it came directly from the mouth of god so I have little reason to doubt it.

>>96482356
Did you make this?

>>96482373
>and quickly backtracked once their mistake was pointed out
What's the mistake there? If you nudge fate with tutoring so they know Everman before they meet you, and you then get the bonus for having the language bilingually yourself its -1 -0 +1. Makes perfect sense to me, more than the Keter trick (her requiring "any" language implies understanding or teaching without language just as well as knowing all languages)

Rolled 11, 19, 1, 3 = 34 (4d20)

>>96481902
>>96482645
Surprisingly okay, but even on a good roll I get no friends. Let's see events, I bet they're cursed.

>>96482596
By RAW, you could argue that Autoantecedence doesn't allow buying a third gift unless you already have a second.
By its meaning, I would argue that Autoantecedence allows buying anything that can fill it, even if it will do absolutely nothing, not even allowing use of it's contained gift, without a valid third gift.
>>96482603
If I do another fixed image, I'll capitalize Human and Goodness. Good catch. I only have 2 Flowing Gaits though, as I won't acquire the third until a later encounter event.

>>96482686
What's your death slot?

>>96482641
That's what I was thinking too but I'm not sure if there's anyone suitable there. Maybe Maiosara or Unnr still pop out an heir, since Rozir doesn't seem interested in inheriting Malkuth.

>>96482682
Some people ITT thought that the "won't allow you to satisfy language bonus requirements" clause in Tutored was meant to apply to that interaction and similar.

I maintain that the word choice is really odd if that interpretation is correct, and there's a cleaner reading that the clause in question is about stopping you from getting a free Zhivete by tutoring your parents in Entramithraic, but alas, there is no WoG that has been posted here or that I could find half-assedly searching tanks comments on reddit

>>96482686
See, I told you, cursed. Community is the only real option for this.
>>96482704
Vedi, nothing special.

>>96482713
Surprised there's so few royal claimants. Guess everyone wants to be a hero instead of a ruler.

>>96482737
What's the appeal in being king of something when there are so many juicy plot threads around?

>>96482722
My reasoning would be that if a Mentor fudged into a companion turns int a full value companion, a mentor fudged into a mentor+language is a full mentor of that language and qualifies for the interaction with Everman.
I mean, the language is literally designed to be a semi-magical lingua franca designed by the Second (or her brother) who was far from ordinary. Just like Auburn has magical qualities, the other Sepian language branch.

>>96482730
At least you'll get whispers of sweet nothings from your goddess

>>96482713
>47
Spiritual Feel
>46
Intelligence
>45
Caster Intuition
>42
Attentiveness
>40
Wisdom
>37
Cognitive Speed
>35
Memory Retention
>28
Ethereal Beauty
>27
Autoantecedence
>23
Bitter Sickness

Top 10 most chose Gifts.

>>96482713
I can't believe I'm the only one to Autoantecedence Magician's Hand.

>>96482764
Didn't expect All-Glimpse to be so low with how it is constantly glazed by the thread.

>>96482737
All the countries with have good candidates for leadership in this version. Empire has Kalliope. DKMDR has Apantoxia. Margaset is fine for Exarchate as long as Blues win, and he can be replaced by his wife if you want. Thaumiel is the best ruler Dis has ever had, which isn't saying much but it's something. Dirk is great for now and when he finally kicks it or goes fully mad, Maiosara will be adequate. Vadim is actually pretty great for the Old Throne. Mamet countries don't have a succession crisis brewing and their current leaders are adequate.

>>96482713
Mind gifts were a mistake

ayo where the fuck is Rake?

>>96482503
SRTR comes across a pretty unlikeable in general. Like I know the purpose is to motivate them to find Meaning even if they get slapped down but come on.

>>96482808
Hands off my brain boosters!

>>96482761
My goddess is dead though.

>>96482764

>4 Autoantecedence
Spirit Tap
>3 Autoantecedence
Inner Vision
God Hand
Dream Passage
>2 Autoantecedence
Starsight
Esurient Walk
>1 Autoantecedence
Occulus of Human Goodness
Look of Chaos
Touch of Embedded Rust
Panarmament
Magician's Hand
Crooked Caress
Bleeding Heart Gesture
Greatriding Spurs
Entrenchment
Shadow Footwork
Grey Wandering

>>96482808
>Most players decide to go caster or pull off some complicated bullshit
>The gifts that help with that get chosen more
>According to anon this is a problem
Buff martial options if you want something to change there, more than one anon mentioned that they wanted to make a martial build, but it just didn't feel viable.

>>96482808
>Still mad people want to play smart characters

>>96482821
But her voice still calls out

How bad of an idea it is to pick 0^0 as your patron? What is she capable od doing with her patron status? It clearly didn't hinder Keter much, she did it fine on her own.

>>96482713
>>96482827
Also this.

>>96482764
Based nerds

>>96482841
It is the single dumbest thing you could do.

>>96482846
How about pinging her with update prayers every day using Devout Signature and using her like a diary.

Rolled 3, 10, 12, 5, 6, 18, 16, 16, 11, 20, 20, 17 = 154 (12d20)

>>96481902

My chaotic goddess, what do you have in store for me? Bless me or curse me, as long as my story is exciting I accept it.

>>96482861
>giving her live updates of your position
Yeah you're dying at 13

>>96482869
>So then I grey wandered into Mamet, did I mention that I had that before? (have done so over 300 times at this point), Yeah so like your subordinates, lovely people by the way, they tried to attack me, but luckily my Stifling of Arms and Occulus of Human Goodness saved me, and after talking to them for a few hours, they even bought a beer, gave me traveling rations, and bid me on my way, lovely people those guys, strange though, like why would they say please when bidding someone farewell lol, haha well then after that.............

The Dread Autist Strikes Again!

>>96481745
>>96481880 (me)
>>96481959 (me)

I'm back. Here is all that's needed. To be clear I didn't mean that I hate the build or something.

>>96482829
It's not even that going martial is un-viable, it's that you also want mental gifts as a martial. Martial Instinct is about as popular as All-Glimpse and twice as popular as magician's hand; it's not like people are skipping it.

>>96482764
Half of builds has no ethereal beauty
I'm not taking vedi. Go fuck yourselves ugly bastards.

>>96482764
>Autoantecedence
In the Lusus Naturae run too, the not!Autoantecedence choice in it made building and build description a lot more fun.
Autoantecedence-like choices in cyoas seems like good and popular design. Take note, authors.

>>96482889
I want Angelfag to keep this post in mind when he redoes Idealist.

>>96480073
Try posting it on reddit, maybe they can help a brotha out since everyone here is too busy with Outer Reincarnation.

>>96482914
s/build description/build discussion

>>96482914
Eh. It’s one thing OR didn’t well. Most people don’t even give a description for theirs, probably because the cyoa has so few examples of it.

>>96482914
We have had alot of those
Like the ultimate attacks in luminary, or the other things I can't remember

>>96482900
>I'm not taking vedi

There are high chances you'll be picked by the System anyway.

>>96482841
It's probably viable if you want to betray yourself, the world, and everyone in it to help her build wageslave discount earth. She clearly wants to intimidate you more than she wants to recruit you, but she does offer you a few carrots throughout the CYOA, and history shows she's willing to reward those who bend the knee.

Can you live with yourself, bending the knee?

>>96482936
So how do I protect myself from an ugly 12th? If 12th picks me he have to be beautiful.

>>96482939
That outcome won't last. The elder gods will rewind and pick someone smarter for the 11th seat the next time around.

>>96482945
If you mind control yourself to for example kill all ugly people on sight, then you might be able to force Ethereal Beauty as a requirement.

>>96482862
>Hostile Environment
One and Keter where the hell did you take me?
>Decent Partnership
At least they get along with each other. One, please continue to keep Keter in check.
>Decent Time
Not bad, I'll have enough time to get some plotting done and leadership training.
>Hostile Relationships
It's because I'm a hybrid freak, isn't it? Filthy mixed blood drakonid.
>Poor Learning
Even with all my mental gifts fate does not want me to get a handle on magic easily.
>Community
Well, I guess the kids hate me because I don't act like one but the adults seems more than fine with me. I'll rely on them to remember and support me in the future.
>World Traveler
No wonder I'm not making many friends, Keter and One are taking me all over.
>Team Ups
And at least Keter may stick around up to the final fight.

>Hearing Voices
SRTR is probably telling me how to find her
>Treasure map x2
...Yea, she really wants me to find her. I'll figure out how to open this box later in life.
>Marked One
After I save this kid. Everyone else my age was a dick, it'll be nice to have at least one friend.

Enochian Brand and Meandering Thoughts make a good combo.

>>96482945
Safest bet is probably to keep your inborn gifts down to typical mother candidate levels and have a viable father ready for you, like the Samat(a) or the Aureole siblings. Then the system picks you up as a mom not a mentor, and they have to pay extra if they want to dice fudge + true love you. Most people aren't willing to spend the points so they'll pick a different waifu.

>>96482959
I'm a fan of Missed Shape x6
So much extra AP.

>>96482971
....6?

>>96482975
Blind Nugget

>>96482950
Can you imagine the drama of a 12th is born into a world with 100 more years of Ecumene conquest backed by two outsiders, though?

>>96482980
Ah, blind. Yeah, that makes more sense than what I was thinking.

>Enochian Brand

True waste of points.

>>96482991
There are circumstances where it's useful -
I just realized that there are spells that you cast by writing. Never mind, garbage gift, it's just a Blazing Seal that kills you.

>>96482939
No. Fuck that bitch nigga. Live free or die.

>>96482971
>prosthetic limbs
I can make this work

>>96482841
It's what I did, but it doesn't stop us from being SRTR's strongest soldier. People keep saying its a bad idea and bringing up something about someone named Katya or whatever, but with the power of progeny friendship, nothing can stop us!

>>96483003
Honestly just burn yourself into a Greater Warmachia.
Kuz'ma might even be a good option for that kinda build since he would support you 100%.

Nugget fairy with warmachina mounting and all the other gifts

How will anon feel when his next reincarnation and Charlotte's next reincarnation end up as lovers?

>>96483014
Nothing. They will be anon and Charlotte no longer.

Reminder that All-Cucks will never experience the joys of drifting into blissful sleep while cuddling with their waifu.

>>96483014
I would taunt her for fucking her Great-X son's reincarnation.

this is embarrassing

>>96482893 fix

>>96483003
You're going to have to take Brastat and Never Alone first.

>>96483019
My Myslete Majin waifu begs to differ.

>>96483014
>anon fight Charlotte and wins
>Charlotte is no longer a god but still empyreal
>System puts both anon and Charlotte as possible parents for 12th
A possible scenario

>>96483031
Important: Who is raping who in this scenario?

>>96483031
>get Nash'd and On'd

>>96482983
Their only available races will be Northerner and Soutlander and only northern Doria will be a pickable location.

>>96483014
As long as Charlie is a cute boy I'm okay with this.

>>96483007
Important: If you're a werewolf with no limbs and no eyes, does wolfmode also have no limbs and no eyes?

>>96482971
>18 AP
HMMM

>>96483039
Who do you think I am, Tuzik?

>>96483028
>Brastat wakes up one day and there's a blind nugget baby in his room along with a living Warmachina (you need to take Oko so he has material to work off of)
>She tells him to build prosthetics for the baby

>>96483023
Your strange interest for the joke build fascinates me.

>>96483063
>Your reward for defeating 0^0 is JPNL's blessing
>OP shit that sounds cool
>this also makes your slots B.

>>96482971
Hyakimaru turned out fine

>>96483075
Forgot the image

>>96483071
autism

>>96483066
>>96483028
0^0 will never see it coming. Neither will I but that's not the point here.

>>96483029
Is she kuudere?

>>96483112
She is the best dere, kamidere.

>>96483019
They will meditate into deep trance near their True Loved.

>>96481733
I remain of the opinion that language bonuses were a mistake.

Rolled 15, 5, 11, 18, 1, 2, 17, 13, 12, 17, 5, 8 = 124 (12d20)

>>96481902
rollan

>>96483135
Fuck you anti-minmaxxerfag. Stop policing our fun.

>>96483135
I enjoy having more AP and DP. The only mistake is the Keter/Thaumiel trick.

>>96483135
It doesn't really matter since anyone smart takes god script insular.

>>96483145
>I enjoy having more AP and DP.

>>96483142
>>96483145
Start with 25 points of each type. No language bonuses.

>>96483157
My build has none of these and still easily beats 0^0 and all the gods.

>>96483158
I can get get 26 points of value even without the Keter Trick, no deal.

>>96483157
No, I was going to take all the mental gifts anyway. Having more AP allowed me to buy some companions and non-mental gifts, making my build more varied. Mental gifts are non-negotiable for a magic build.

>>96483157
Yes. You're just salty because your build don't have a good synergy and others did better.
>>96483158
Fuck off.

>>96483158
That would make there less interesting choices. I like the languages, and trying to fit in ones that make sense and give good bonuses.

>>96483158
I mean this would be fine for me but I'm not trying to optimize.

>>96483158
>>96483157
Sorry, but I like the number game.

>>96483163
Oh yeah? Well my build chooses himself as patron god and so now he's a god and nobody makes fun of him anymore

>>96483158
But I like knowing every language

>>96483157
What's the problem? It's clear some builds are giving up on some mental gifts, so anons are clearly thinking about it and deciding on their own. Mental enhancements will often be the most popular choices if they are remotely functional because they nearly always have the best synergies. How do you even want to fix it?

>>96483157
>>96483158
Go police someone else.

>>96483191
It's also that the scenario we're presented with is one where the straightforward approach have been tried and failed. The CYOA heavily suggests you attack the problem from weird angles, which is the exact scenario where gifts like Intelligence and Attentiveness shine.

>>96483184
You cant do that. Try making a build within the rules and bounds of the cyoa, like me. Im sure you can do it if you really put some thought into it.

>>96483244
I already won though?

>>96483191
The problem is that people obviously feel they have to take them, meaning that them being choices feels like a lie and all the extra points are just forced to be used on boring mental stats.
It's one of the reasons why all the builds are basically copy pasting the biggest AP gains. If those didn't exist I feel people would be more creative with their builds.

>>96483191
>>96483235
Popular picks = Bad game design
According to that autist

>>96483261
You retards keep hyping gifts up and saying it's impossible to survive without x or y

Being reminded of this model really made me realize how stupid the average OR build is

>>96483191
A game about making choices is more boring when everyone chooses the same thing.

>>96483293
Why would you care that something is or isn't popular when making a build for yourself ?

>>96483310
He wants to be the snowflake

>>96483293
Did you even read the chart? There has been an incredible amount of build variety (hell, even if we only count the mind and sense gifts, it's more variety than some entire cyoas). Removing the mind gifts is not going to increase build variety, it will just decrease the number of builds.

>>96481902
Some of these don't make sense. If you are the lawful child aka not a bastard of the Viceroy of the Exarchate, you won't live in a poor environment.

>>96483321
You could interpret it as "the brewing civil war is making everyone miserable", really.

>>96482806
This. The only semi-inadequate ruler candidate is Maiosara, but there's no worries since I'm planning on pumping Dirk's mom full of babies anyways.

>>96483140
>>96481902
>One
>Hateful Parental Partnership

>>96482713
>not a single build took witchshot
Its somehow the only gift nobody took. Is Witchshot really that bad?

>>96483344
Its exceptional but anons are scared of guns because they make loud sounds.

>>96483344
It's just lacking in options to combo with. It basically requires you to Ytorusha it and create stuff for it within your own story.

>>96483344
Overpriced. Compare Magician's Hand and Esurient Walk.

>>96483290
I'm the one saying that you will always win since you are the one telling the story. Any build as long as they have a competent idea will work once inside the world because that is what would make the more interesting story. Saying that you wouldn't be able to survive without All-Glimpse, Intelligence, Daemonhost or whatever else is just stupid and shows a lack of imagination.
I like seeing different builds because I like the different stories people can come up with. There's nothing wrong with shopping list builds but they do become repetitive unless they actually explain what they would personally do.

>>96483261
If people weren't able to boost their intelligence or be casters then only one type of build would be possible: meathead.

>>96483339
One is done

>>96483357
Magician's hand isn't that good either. The best spells won't be spammable anyways.
3x fireball is awesome, basically 3x better than one fireball.
3x spell of instant meatcube is probably less of an upgrade.

>>96483344
Guns are gay.

>>96483145
Keter trick doesn't even give you AP unless you have 0^0 patron.

>>96483344
It’s all because no one knows what triple witchshot does

>>96483344
I took Sonya so she handles guns.

>>96483370
False premise. If you have an instant kill spell that works on everything, fuck all resistances, you might as well be an elder god and any gifts can be said to be moot.

>>96483358
And we had good stories too! Liriel's going to Orthrung, the BBEG of the Damned, the Capitalist, the Earth-Pocket guy, the Dream Librarian, the Orthrung reclaimer, the guy who unwrote himself, the anon who crashed out and tried to bring back the previous tide...
I'm shit at math so I never checked nor cared about the balance, but the number of stories you can craft is limitless.

>>96483392
>If you have an instant kill spell
What's with autists and coming up with random shit that nobody said?

>>96481880
>>96481935
Thank you for your service

>>96483400
Her name is Du'um.

>>96483402
If it's ironic fuck off if it's genuine no problem dude

>>96483344
>Magical epic fantasy land
>I will use guns!
You could have sex with men and be less gay

Is there a list of all the exploits?

>>96483395
>limitless
It's not actually. Most of these builds are illegals or overlapping.

>>96483292
>don't be seen
not with my 3x oculus of human goodness

>>96483416
Are they really exploits if they are intended?

>>96483433
does it matter?

>>96483416
Exploits are a trap desu, you get all those points but you get locked out from the outer tide for taking too many characters.

>>96483416
No I will not spoonfeed you, find them yourself like the rest of us.

>>96483441
if you'd taken advantage of the exploits, maybe you wouldn't need outer jobbers to beat 0^0

>>96483441
Outer Tide is populated by Meaningtards anyway.

>>96483416
Only one matters, making a non-meme build, almost guaranteed to beat Charlie that way,

>>96483432
That's "don't be targeted", which is an inferior goal to maximize towards but it also includes "offensive" capabilities by neutralizing hostile assets so you good.
This is mostly about the geniuses going straight to "don't be killed" as their main gameplan

>memory retention
Wasted points. If you can't kill charlie in 15 years tops, you aren't even trying.

>>96483328
If that happens and you lose the war, then you lost, and Charlie won. You have to avoid the civil war, or win it. Only then would you as a king be able to fight the Ecumene. If that doesen't happen Charlie wins.

>>96483447
Have we ever gotten any builds that actually wrote out their journey, how they defeated 0^0, and epilogue? Most builds just explain their build's gimmick and leave it at that. I'm seriously considering doing a single player build for once.

>>96483461
You have never passed an exam in your life have you

>>96483292
Sight Beyond Sight stands supreme

>>96483472
I don't remember.

>>96483469
You mean like, not just their plan but an actual story?

>>96483468
I could lose the war, take refuge in the Demon Empire of Light and Dark and "conquer" back the realm though.

>Autoantecedence + Bleeding Heart Gesture x3
This is a whopping 20 point combo... what should it do?

>>96483469
>wrote out their journey
Did it but it's actively illegal since tank WoG'd that you don't know the order in which events occur

>>96483476
Possibly one of the best options for survivabilty + impact yes. Someone propose pairing it with Evil Eye. The new multi-eye dragon bnullshit is also promising, invisible dragons have always been the endgame of fantasy warfare (just like stealth planes ensure a kind of superiority of the US military that ongobongo's without extremely sophistcated radar + anti-air setups will never counter)

>>96483495
Insta win. Hope you took Buki and Eye of Fore

>>96483495
It lets you punch hard

>>96483513
b-b-b-based?

>>96483451
Nothing more meaningless than multiplayer mode

>>96483495
Maximum chunni
>You have forced me to unless the hidden power of my right hand
>Nukes a city
Ignore that you have to spend every moment people aren't looking at you punching your face.

>>96483495
Let's you decide how much charge you release per punch instead of allways using it all up. That way waves of trash mobs ain't invalidade your entire gift.
Or make any damage to anyone in short range ccharge the gift

>>96483488
An actual story would be kino but I mean a really detailed plan that lays out how their journey went as in instead of simply explaining their build's gimmick like "i use daemonhost to yada yada yada" they also explain their journey like "i visited YMRD on the moon, I got advice for a pun that would kill 0^0 from YMRD, I explore the world with Kilyn to complete the pun, I spread the pun around the world, I barely survive a battle against 0^0 who tried to stop me from reciting the fully completed pun and kill her with the pun, I retire in peace until the 12th arrivees"

>>96483521
NTA but disagree, Torrential Tide had some modicum of Meaning. Then again it was a different time with different people and different points.

>>96483469
I did, posted it once, fucked up on the math and haven't posted the update yet. I don't blame anons for not reading it because I wrote details for just about everything choice, encounter, companion, mentor, how I'd beat Nilmatrix and then I stopped halfway writing for the Charlie fight.

>>96483527
cutting yourself is pretty chunni though

>>96483469
The guy who wrote a summary of what happens in each world did it for us.

>>96483495
Be a complete joke against any Empyrean.

>>96483535
Here you go.
https://rentry.org/TreeSonOuterReincarnation

>>96483495
>>96483545
Attack the soul through sympathy.

>>96483469
Would you read it?

>>96483558
No.

>>96483559
Thanks for your honesty, burning everything as we speak

>>96483535
Can't be done with the quantum order of events which then gate your companions and mentors so you cant determine when you have what available and it's all suck


>>96483537
>different people

>>96483563
Good, me too

>>96483564
>>different people
Okay hotshot, give me names. Who was here both times? "Everyone" is not a valid answer.

>>96483570
nta but #15 made multiple builds both times. He uses > and capitalization in a very specific way.

>>96483570
Me. And I recognize a bunch of the perennials here after thousands of hours shitposted together

>>96483344
It's just overpriced. I've tried to make a character who uses it but it's 4 points for a gift that is really only useful in combat and is arguably worse than some 2- and 3-point gifts even in that arena.

>>96483577
>>96483578 (me)
See what I mean? #4 and #12 are here too though #12 posts way less now (good.)

>>96483577
...Are you talking about #12?

>>96483490
It's technically possible. But I don't think it's very likely it would be hard, you'd be in a bad situation.

>>96483588
He most definitely is but did well increasing the number because newfags will think its the 12th outsider. Which is a great meme why didn't we think of that

>>96482356
Good effort but trying interactive cyoas like this are a bit of a pain in the ass to navigate if I want to go back and forth through it. More so when there are so many choices to keep track of. Is there a static version?

>>96483527
If you have the eternal curse, it's not that big a deal since you won't feel it.

someone should compile the one liners from last thread into a screenshot

>>96483604
Why not you?

>>96483603
You will also never heal so that's a horrible combo

>>96483564
>Can't be done with the quantum order of events which then gate your companions and mentors so you cant determine when you have what available and it's all suck
Just take Never Alone for all companions and mentors then.

>>96483570
Me. I was Rhucuphrefagging the torrential tide before Rhucuphre was even published

>>96483592
I can weave a story around the concept. Better than nothing.
>>96483593
Don't tarnish Twelfth with #12.
>>96483611
Big titty elf?

what bonuses should you take if you select a special snowflake human race from the extra section?

>>96481733
https://www.reddit.com/r/makeyourchoice/comments/1mwbkpv/outer_reincarnation_cyoa_update_1/nbboh90/
>It doesn’t say that your soul is devoured, it says your spirit is devoured. Consider these two things to be separate.
>soul and spirit are separate
What does he mean by this? Is the spirit just a second body? Is this a setting with indestructible souls?

>>96483615
>Big titty elf
He made like 8 other builds too and I figured it out before he revealed it but you called me a schizo. Not false but

>>96483410
I was being serious. Auditing builds is based.

>>96483618
I would guess that your spirit includes your memories and shit. Everything that is attached to this specific lifetime.
But your soul is the consciousness that gets reincarnated.

>Is this a setting with indestructible souls?
I would assume yes

>>96483617
None.

>>96483618
The souls themselves are the main method of reincarnation and it would be antithesis to the gods world for there to be a way to kill souls. Spirit would be something like your conscience outside your body and that can be harmed and killed, returning your soul to the cycle.
What you kill are Empyrean spirits, not their souls.

Does Ecumene have working dungeons?

>>96478675
>>96478872
are aliens canon in these cyoas?

>>96483631
>I would guess that your spirit includes your memories and shi
>>96483639
>Spirit would be something like your conscience outside your body
The mind is actually mostly a product of the body. See: cognitive speed. No body = goodbye ~90% of your mind; you might as well be dead.

>>96483618
Using D&D as a metaphor

Soul = Player. It has an existence outside the game and can't be hurt by anything in the game.

Spirit = Player character's "soul", which exists inside the game and can be eaten, put into a phylactery, used for resurrection magic, sent on empyrean corpse runs, etc.

>>96483570
I made a build but was barely involved in the Torrential Tide posting. Honestly my build is kind of just the inverse of the original but able to explore what I wanted a lot more with the new points and gifts this update.

>>96483628
Was it autism?

>>96483628
It sounds difficult to believe. People have expressed how difficult it was to create one, and you expect me to think they made eight?
Then again perhaps it was simpler in V1 with less choices.

>>96483672
Meandering Thought is a booster.

>>96483672
It's definitely possible though, v1 only had 10 pages it was much simpler.
Also, once you have made your first build you don't need to reread the whole cyoa only parts of it. An excel sheet for builds would also make the process much faster.

>>96483670
The respectable kind. It was a bit obnoxious at scale but there was some real effort in there

>>96483672
"Difficult" is function of cognitive effort. And once you have made one the next is easier. And they were all highly specific, not attempts at grabbing everything one Anon wants as much as adding certain Egregores Anon could then evoke.
And V1 was both easier and more lore was hidden so people could ass pull better.

Though I disagree on Rhucuphrefagging (if its even the same Anon), the one I am thinking of was definitely Ielziasehfagging

>>96483618
>What does he mean by this? Is the spirit just a second body? Is this a setting with indestructible souls?
This is what I've concluded based on high level magic and the weirder deaths:
>For a refresher on how death works in Outer Reincarnation; we have souls, which are indestructible metaphysical identities responsible for perception and free will. These souls go into bodies. The interactions between a soul and a body produce a ghost, a biological process that reads, assigns, and creates capital-M meanings of things. A ghost will sometimes overflow from the body into becoming its own object. A ghost can be a vehicle of the soul, it can be a prison of the soul, it can even be its own kind of soulless shell. A certain chair has already reduced everybody who ever lives on this planet to the spiritual equivalent of carrion hundreds of times over.
>Outer Reincarnation has every play on this threefold relationship that it think of. One set of soul and body can have two ghosts. One set of soul and body can replace its ghost. Two souls can go inside one body and ghost. One body can have two different sets of soul and ghost. Two different sets of body and soul can have the same ghost.

>>96483637
>:(

>>96483617
I would accept taking another human race and copying it. It is better than nothing or creating your own biased interpretation.

>>96483689
>>96483698
I suppose.
For me, OR is similar to Cityscape Skirmish or Heart Adrift in that once you've built it, even if you return and make other choices, it's not "your" trip anymore.
>not attempts at grabbing everything one Anon wants as much as adding certain Egregores Anon could then evoke.
Then, what did he want?
A more pertinent query is: what sort of robotic portrait would appear if every member of the Outer Tide were occupying the Eleventh Seat?

>>96483663
Memories can be transfered without bodies, see incorporeal undead, outsiders, and Yee.

>>96483618
The biggest question is if your Soul retains any memories from your previous lives or not, as we know the Spirit normally doesn't.

>>96483740
Winning.

>>96483740
>Cityscape Skirmish or Heart Adrift
Those are very personal I agree. I am still going to read all of them eventually but avoided doing it back to back or even "just" reading without engaging in the journey

>Then, what did he want?
To steer thread conversations by evoking his own characters, which reinforced their identities further and .. steered thread conversations. For some reason he wasn't met with the hostility wanking his own builds warranted but this was before the mp culture really took off and people were aware of the playbook.

>>96481733
Why do dark elves even bother to have sex? Are they capable of feeling pleasure? They're naturally infertile and always shocked if a pregnancy does occur, so why bother?

>>96481733
Are the traits for the extra races at the end written anywhere? I can't seem to find them and there's some fun stuff to build with there.

>>96483791
The descriptions explain what they do

So what exactly does the Toybox path entail and why does so many builds had chosen it?

>>96483804
>didn't spoiler
oh no! Everyone hide, SRTR's about to put you all in the toybox

>>96483804
>why does so many builds had chosen it?
1. You die of horrendous grammar and spelling.
2. Only 4 builds (3 if you don't count the joke) have chosen to be in the toybox, so I have no idea what you mean by "so many".

>>96483804
>Just grab powers and don't interact with the world at all
Why do you think?
That said, the idea of being super powerful backup that will fall down to the world like a star when the time comes is cool and has certain appeal.

>>96483779
>To steer thread conversations by evoking his own characters, which reinforced their identities further and .. steered thread conversations
I suppose this explains why the previous tide was so ordered.

>>96483804
It's the laziest serious build strategy, you don't have to plan anything.

>>96483816
>so I have no idea what you mean by "so many".
A few thetafags keep revising the same builds non-stop.

>>96483762
In a scientific sense, it definitely does. The spiritual growth that elder gods are encouraging happens in response to experiences in life, and grander experiences lead to more profound spiritual growth.

In the way that you probably think of memories, those seem to be stored in the story of the world, which your soul should have only limited access to prior to ascension. Dei's remembrances work by grabbing a random soul that's ready to reincarnate and giving it the body, spirit, memories, etc of someone that it reconstructs from the world's memory. See Seo's description for the clearest example of this.) The Yee death letter in all likelihood works in a similar way, except that it promises both iterations will have the same soul while not promising the same body.

>>96483609
No you can heal. It says that most dark elves learn healing magic. The curse is just that they don't notice any physical changes to their body through touch. So they won't feel pain and know something is wrong. But if they get stabbed and see blood they know they are injured and can heal.

>>96481733
Is there any possible utility to being an Ancient Morlock? I want to be a cool cave dweller.

>>96483689
>excel sheet for builds would also make the process much faster
You mean to say people don't do this? It's obviously not necessary for short cyoa but for anything longer than 4 pages that require tracking numbers it's a chore to not use it. Plus a good way to see old builds from cyoas you might have forgotten.

>>96483822
fix your filenames

Rolled 18, 15, 3, 18, 11, 5, 15, 15, 5, 18, 17, 2, 19 = 161 (13d20)

>>96481902
Rollin

>>96483883
>Severe nutritional deficiencies
>Can't fit in with other Morlocks
>Basically a goblin
>Except without Inhumanity and its benefits
Why would you do this to yourself?

>>96483901
I want to be a cool cave dweller.

>>96483892
>>96483896
Okay, now it should be the right title!

>>96483907
You can be a dwarf, you can be three different kinds of elves, you can even be spiderwoman, you can be a goo-person, or even an outright demon. Why do you overlook all of this to play as Gollum?

>>96483920
>you can be a goo-person
Untrue.

>>96483920
Let the man be a cool cave dweller!

>>96483883
Sneak into poluden and sabotage the cohesion of 0^0 forces by internal scheming and reigniting morlock tyranny.

>>96483925
Ooze is right there, what are you on about?

>>96483934
You can't pick it. It's contradicting the rules.

>>96483943
What do you mean? Its a race option freely presented. I'm not sure what rules are being contradicted?

>>96483943
This guy again
>>96483934
Ignore him

>>96483934
There's an anon here who hates the fact that Tank gave out-of-CYOA permission to be a JNPL kid with the extended races and tries to start this argument every time someone brings it up

>>96483934
He's on about nothing and will waste your time.

>>96483962
>This guy again
No that's me! And I don't care ever since I know the WoG on it don't invoke me

You are being observed.

>>96483672
>how difficult it was to create one
If you self-insert/live with your choices maybe, if you are making characters it's a lot easier.

>>96483999
>A cyoa by Hyenanon,
>imitating Sandnigger,
>with a gentle touch of Glory Unto the Sweet
Yes... yes! What a wonderful bouquet!

>>96483804
1. No need to care about the character picks other than inborn gift inheritance and teachings.
2. Be taught by an Elder God for 100 years. Extrapolating from Zenia's described abilities and likely mediocre innate talent, you will come out much greater than her.
3. Safe for 100 years. Not only safe from death, but also safe from Charlotte winning. SRTR won't waste her own time for 100 years and end with a meaningless reset. Nothing is more boring than a nothing burger, right?
4. You probably won't have mental problems like Zenia if you're in the toybox together with anons.

>>96484036
>4. You probably won't have mental problems like Zenia if you're in the toybox together with anons.
Thank you , this is very reassuring

>>96484019
Hey, they both make okayish stuff occasionally

>>96484036
>4. You probably won't have mental problems like Zenia if you're in the toybox together with anons.
is this ironic

>>96483804
>So what exactly does the Toybox path entail and why does so many builds had chosen it?
You get stuck in a pocket universe with SRTR, and can't leave until she figures out how to break free, or someone lets her out.

On the bright side, it means that the current mess with Charlie, the Nightmare, etc, is someone else's problem. So you still get to be the Eleventh Outsider, with all the perks that implies, but without the responsibilities.

On the downside, you might not like how everyone else resolve these problems (or not). Plus, until someone lets you out, you're stuck in a pocket universe with a psychotic adrenaline junkie goddess who believes that strife brings out the best in people.

Variant on the idea - take Theta, and then try to escape the Toybox on your own. If you succeed, you've just neutralized your death letter, and probably won favor with SRTR. Of course, that still means you have to deal with Charlie, the Nightmare, etc - and they may be worse than when you went into the Toybox.

>>96483855
That's not actually an answer.
>Duh totally but like not in the way you think!
Okay what way is it then? Translate the difference.

>>96484036
Literally the "I dont want to think but I want to participate anyway by being nowhere" option. Participation trophy and a cuck chair.

>>96484059
Alternatively, it's for the lazyasses who don't feel like reading the whole cyoa.

>>96484053
>pocket universe
Given the high profile dreams usually being known in the lore, does anyone know which specific dream she is stuck in? There is some hint somewhere that it's a high profile one and not its own thing

>>96483416
Valar practically had all of the point tricks if you want a spoiler.

>>96483899
>Perfect Home (Sierogrivian Basin)
>(0^0) True Love (Tam & Aat + Rhu)
>No Time (Parental Support, Daemonhunt, Pandaemonium, Plotting)
>Loyalty (Siblings, Blazhko sometimes)
>Average Tutelage (Rhu)
>Hated (??Sierogrivs??)
>Worldly Traveler
>Team Ups (Tam & Aat)
>Uruk Attacks
>Harvest Festival
>Marked One
>Blessed
Seems like a pretty straightforward, effectively be a parent to the other four siblings because Tam can only come by on weekends and Aat (Xian) is literally only around because he's a dormant curse and only speaks in dreams. Don't know how either got the True Love disease but I'm not one to judge. Perfect Home suggests to me that this family is probably on the southern edge of the Basin, near enough to Arcadia to receive some of its benefits. Going to assume that Valar gets hated by the local community due to a mix of early Pandaemonium plotting, sibling shenanigans, and somekind of failure at the Uruk attack, along with defending the local Marked One (negated from below-Hated by Blessing).

>>96484056
Anon if you don't know what the scientific definiton of memory is, that's on you. My post was clear.

>>96484067
Refer to the first pont (dont want to think)

>>96483999
I don't really see a reason to not go with the other Rulebreaker. I don't trust the person at the start a lick. They made the universe, the rules, and basically everything? From my point of view, it kind of looks like they were the original Rulebreakers. Hyperreality Geyser and Positive-Sum Anchor both give a start to act like them and if you trust the voice you can take both right now.

>>96484079
It's worth differentiating; reading through some material and making plans are separate things.

>>96484051
No, I was being serious. Despite how anons may seem on 4chan, most are actually normal people. Add in mental gifts and social skills gained from the cyoa and they likely become quite pleasant to be around. Add in spawning more people with means like Daemonhost and mental problems truly become not a worry.

>name
"Godslayer" Punchardt

>patron
0^0

>reincarnation
Extra Companion (free)
Extra Mentor (free)
Burn the Future x19 (-38DP/+19AP)

>parents
Unnotable One x2 +8DP

>race
Tempered (Muddish bonuses, +3AP +1 mentor)

>languages
Everman
Benewhisper -1DP (+7DP)
Simplified Duergar -2DP (+7AP)
Palatiner -1DP (+4DP)

>location
New New York (+1 companion)

>gifts
Ethereal Beauty -1AP
Everlasting -3DP/-3AP
Bestial Strength -4AP
Boiling Blood -3AP
Second Wind -3AP
Last Breath -3AP
Cognitive Speed -2AP
Intelligence -2AP
Martial Instinct -2AP
Fighter's Eye x2 -4AP
Attentiveness -2AP
Icon of Icons -5AP
Bleeding Heart Gesture x3 -15AP
Autoantecedence -5AP
Flowing Gait x2 -2AP

>mentors (3)
n/a

>companions (4)
n/a

>encounters
All Uruk +7DP/+7AP

>death
Punchardt - Buki
Unnotable Mother - Nash
Unnotable Father - Greater Yus

>childhood
Martial Training
Emancipation
Power Testing
Other (more training)

>quest
Ameno


Punchardt is a simple man of simple methods. He does not seek fame, nor riches, nor the embrace of a woman, though these things often find him in his journey. He cares only for one thing. Punching things really, REALLY fucking hard. Towards this goal he devotes the entirety of his being. Every ounce of focus, will, and determination spent training, pushing the limit just a bit further each time. He does not reject companionship, though again he does not seek it either. The few who choose to walk alongside him must do so of their own accord.

His goal, to fight and kill the gods. Not for godhood (he wouldn't want it anyways), but to truly test the limits of his strength.

Autoantecedence Effect:
Bleeding Heart Gesture now cannot be blocked by magical effects. Causing harm to others heals proportional to damage dealt. If you have no injuries, the excess violence is stored as power to be released later. Additionally, you will retain any wasted energy when killing an enemy using this ability, beyond what it takes to render them a fine mist.

>>96483672
If you are only making a build for the sake of it then you can do it in just a few minutes after you have read the whole thing a few times. The only thing that really takes time is optimization, trying to make your build as good as it could be while not losing focus of the main idea.
I thought of several possible builds, and if I didn't care about making them as good as possible, I could just write them all down and fill all the gaps in the tide. But there's no point in drowning it with a single person writing, one build per anon is more than enough.

>>96484100
I'll chant your name during the final fight, my king.

>>96484098
>reenacting half-remembered cyoas for 100 years and getting stronger with one of the 10 retards who are similarly autistic enough to end up here
Okay maybe there is some merit to this

>>96481921
Shouldn't untimeskip give you their languages too?

I forgot to add Outer Tide, and reply to the cyoa, so I'm doing that now. Punchardt should be compatible with all possible worlds.

>>96481733
>>96481745
>>96481784

>name
"Godslayer" Punchardt

>patron
0^0

>reincarnation
Extra Companion (free)
Extra Mentor (free)
Burn the Future x19 (-38DP/+19AP)
Outer Tide

>parents
Unnotable One x2 +8DP

>race
Tempered (Muddish bonuses, +3AP +1 mentor)

>languages
Everman
Benewhisper -1DP (+7DP)
Simplified Duergar -2DP (+7AP)
Palatiner -1DP (+4DP)

>location
New New York (+1 companion)

>gifts
Ethereal Beauty -1AP
Everlasting -3DP/-3AP
Bestial Strength -4AP
Boiling Blood -3AP
Second Wind -3AP
Last Breath -3AP
Cognitive Speed -2AP
Intelligence -2AP
Martial Instinct -2AP
Fighter's Eye x2 -4AP
Attentiveness -2AP
Icon of Icons -5AP
Bleeding Heart Gesture x3 -15AP
Autoantecedence -5AP
Flowing Gait x2 -2AP

>mentors (3)
n/a

>companions (4)
n/a

>encounters
All Uruk +7DP/+7AP

>death
Punchardt - Buki
Unnotable Mother - Nash
Unnotable Father - Greater Yus

>childhood
Martial Training
Emancipation
Power Testing
Other (more training)

>quest
Ameno

>>96484124
Not RaW and definitely not RaI but logically yes, if they were to dedicate time to teaching them to you. Buuuut that would likely still need to to have a language in common to teach you in
Mechanically this would be completely overpowered.

>>96481902

>>96481950
>>96482101

15 (+1 tier bonus)
>I grew up in a perfect, rich-people home
20
>My parents had True Love
17
>I had a decent amount of time to myself
17
>I had friendly relationships with neighborhood kids
5
>I had poor mentoring
5
>The community, aside from neighborhood kids, hated me
20
>My family will travel around constantly, never staying >6mo in an area
19
>My parents are very dedicated to me

3
>Godscript weapon
6
>First love
8
>A day with your parents
12
>Final letter

These were good rolls but I consider it a test run.

>>96484124
Not really, it only teaches you what they would have taught you. If you were speaking with them in the first place then they wouldn't need to teach you their language since you should know it.

>>96483816
I would like to go on record saying that Fir is /barely/ a joke build. I stand by the picks as reasonable choices, I just wanted a funny name and story.

With every unnotable omnicompatible build my resolve to finally finish my own wanes. It was a funny and fresh idea to be a theoretical "last one". It feels just silly and suboptimal now. Meh, at least I don't plan to Burn the Future.

>>96484148
Many mentors speak more than one language though.

>>96484175
>at least I don't plan to Burn the Future.
You kinda fuck yourself on ancestry points if you don't. No inheritance, no companions or mentors. And you will end up with 30+ DP just rotting.

>>96484175
The only correct way to do unnotable omnicompatible is to spam Tutored on one of your parents to create the omniglot peasant

>>96484184
Uruk encounters and Simplified Duergar help.

What are the nightmare monsters like? Are they supposed to be tentacle monsters or what?

>>96484190
>omniglot peasant
What's the point?

>>96484201
>Are they supposed to be tentacle monsters or what?
I have never seen anything else

>>96484151
Ok, since it's real, then I have motivation to discuss your choices.
>no mental gifts
>Icon of Icons without social boosts
>ONE Bleeding Heart Gesture
>Greatriding Spurs
What an abomination. If I didn't think it was a joke build from the 3rd person orc perspective, I would have thought that it was a joke build from these choices, which actually fit the retarded orc archetype.

>>96484206
They are not necessary peasants, just most likely. If Chance is willing to cheat for you, make it a reasonable development.

>>96484206
Spending otherwise-unusable DP on something silly when you're unwilling to take Charlie as your patron

>>96484176
Why would they reach you whatever other languages they know? I heavily doubt Upunth would be a competent Drakonian teacher if he even cared enough to do it.
Some others could probably do it but it goes beyond the scope of the outsider system and saying that Untimeskip let's you learn their other languages through osmosis is a reach. Hell, Untimeskip itself can be used standalone to master one language, not do both things at the same time.

>>96484190
>>96484228
Cunning linguist build
Your parent(s) are linguists. They study language. Not in a magical or theological sense, but the actual structure, usage, history, etc.
Maybe you get extra knowledge of some dead languages?

I still hate all builds better than mine.

>>96484233
>peasant child comes out of the womb speaking every currently used language in the world fucking fluently
Kek, untimeskip all languages is the true peasant minmax

>>96484215
>ONE Bleeding Heart Gesture
>Greatriding Spurs
Not him and I agree that Icon of Icons is questionable while no mental builds is just a choice some are content not taking, but these two by themselves aren't that bad. Even if you have two bleeding hearts the most optimal way to use it is to still hurt yourself to charge it, as long as you are willing to do it it's a good nuke option, and Greatriding spurs is not flashy but you can potentially ride drakes and other fantastic monsters with it. I would like it more if the x1 version was permanent on one animal at a time though.

>m-my build may be dogshit, but think of the MEANING!
sewer roach dalit tier
>I hate all builds better than mine
peasant tier
>my build is the best
midwit tier
>I didn’t even read other builds
TRVE DRAGON TIER

>>96484278
>TRVE JOBBER TIER
At last I truly see...

>>96484278
>TRVE DRAGON TIER

More like TRVE JOBBER.

>>96484278
>I can't read.
This is the tier beyond tiers. The man who can say this in sincerety stands beyond argument - any argument utterable in the medium we engage here, at the least. But for you, anon, this door is closed. You are reading this post because you know English, and you will never be illiterate again. You are of the world and its filth.

>>96484215
It's a Tenyora build. It's collecting powers intending to give them up, because Uruk respawn doesn't let you keep your powers. WoG is that Tenyota doesn't get better with x2 limbs, is why they're avoided.

>>96484285
>>96484281
I am 900% sure he was aware of this and playing at it, or he would have called it Elder God tier

If we've got done the to-do list to the point that we're at accusing each other of being jobbers, it might be time to switch to another cyoa.

>>96484294
That's it, I am self-lobotomizing

>>96484294
Si supieras...

>>96484300
It is fine. It's never wrong to remind who these shitters really are.

>>96484306
settle down tok

>>96484306
Sure! You got a fresh one? Oh...

>>96484294
Können Sie das bitte wiederholen?

>>96484233
>why would they
Because they are your mentor and you asked. Are you dumb or just butthurt?

>>96484294
Tu assumes que je ne vais pas feindre l'analphabétisme pour le plaisir de te faire perdre ton temps.

>>96484098
With enough anons srtr could just make a whole new world within her box and her new outsider friends could enjoy another plane of existence. They'll probably breed though which is a problem when they get out.

>>96484358
They can't breed. They're MEN.

>>96484297
That's lame, I gotta redo my Tenyota build now.

>>96484352
This reminds me, wasn't there some french youtube cyoa project advertised here ages ago. Did anything ever come of that?

Which further reminds me: did cyo the adventurer ever drop by again?

>>96484306
Various things the author has confirmed about Rise:

Most of the art is significant . . .except the Temperance du Mort.

Most of the options were written to combo with other picks.

The Black Coast is black because the Dragon Kingdom is on a flying continent that permanently eclipses the sun.

Deeja the lich mentor was Adolf Hitler.

Lady Wilhelmina (the centaur mentor) is basically an archery god, just without the immortality. If a shot can be made with a bow, she can do it.

Giving Andrea or Avesta a dose of Eldritch Muddler is a bad idea.

More Eldritch Muddler can be made.

Mido knows where the temple is.

The Eternal Comet can unlock all of Excalibur's power. Dusk Mirror, with both halves agreeing, can unlock almost as much (and both halves get a version of the sword).

Both halves of a Dusk Mirror get companions. Points spent on companions are effectively doubled, so both halves get the same number (no duplicates)

Garrett and Andrea are from two of QuietAnon's other cyoas. Garret is a brother option from Quiet, but no one has figured out where Andrea comes from.

Lusteria and Tyr are looking for each other.

Deliah is key to unlocking Avesta's best ending.

Not everything is known about the cyoa, and the author promised (and failed to deliver) a lore pdf, along with a page of "small" things you could buy with your points.

>>96484364
Agreed. I SRTR it in single player, but tide is tide

>>96484362
The amount of anons who decided to be the girl will breed like rabbits

>>96484352
>je faisais juste semblant d'être attardé
lol

>>96484271
One Bleeding Heart Gesture is basically useless in the midst of combat after you use it once. It specifically has to be harm by your own hand. Way too slow and focus intensive. Nuke once on one target and it's done for that fight.

Greatriding Spurs is extremely questionable. First, the toybox that doesn't have anything for it to be used on. Second, you will come out op, so mounts are of very dubious utility.

>>96484297
>It's a Tenyora build.
That makes sense... in explaining the choices but not in justifying their usefulness. SRTR has more to teach than you can learn in a thousand years, so why add more things, things that are even inferior to the sacrifices?

>Uruk respawn doesn't let you keep your powers
That's not relevant in the toybox.

Now that I think about it, Uruk is probably the worst race to have in the toybox because of less points and Inhumanity collecting dust.

>>96484388
Я нe пoнялa

Whats with the sperg trying to kill OR discussion?
This general is shit and dead most of the time. This is the best it’s been in a while

>>96484320
>settle down tok
Actually, I'm PromptAnon. And while I understand going fanboy on a book/movie/cyoa you love, it's been . . what? Three weeks? Four? And if we're getting to the point where people are just insulting each other's builds . . . maybe it's time to move on. Or set up a dedicated Outer Reincarnation thread.

>>96484362
>2 Daemonhosts in the box
They'll spawn women.

>>96484405
Trying to start a discussion of another one is fine and beyond criticism imho. It's just an extended hand people can take or leave. I will leave it because the visuals burn my retina and there is no provided reason ti power through!

>>96484409
>Actually, I'm another retard
Kill yourself.

Am I the only real American ITT?

>>96478499
>The First Responder
duh. simple power up
>Classier
Duh. More simple power ups.
>Explorer's Suit
idk what this is but its op

>>96484425
Yes. Stand proud, Anon.

>>96484425
Nah there were 4 burgers on a recent poll, 2 indonesians, and then a bunch of special snowflakes all alone all over the world

>>96478692
me neither. I choose the same.
>>96478675
15
>"Intellegence" (why did the author misspell Intelligence)
10
>Friendly Spirits
0

>>96484425
>Am I the only real American ITT?
Nope, I'm American, too.

>>96484409
>Three weeks? Four?
It has been two weeks.
>dedicated Outer Reincarnation thread.
I understand disliking when a cyoa takes over the thread for a few weeks, but that happens multiples times per year with different cyoas and then ends. If there were a Spirit Conscript thread, and OR thread, an Overlord thread(again), an Entropist thread, etc. the threads would die quickly, only really serving to kill discussion and make searching harder.

>>96484425
No, I'm an (honorary) American too!

>>96484425
you're telling me I've been speaking with non-ameriburgers?

>>96484444
>No, I'm an (honorary) American too!
You're a descendant of the Marquis de Lafayette? Or maybe that Prussian general? I think he got the same offer . . .

All the best cyoas are made by eurochads btw

>>96483740
>>96483779
I remember being very unhappy with what I got for Hearts Adrift because I got that spiteful ghost who was obsessed with cats.

>>96484460
Like Dragonfall?

>>96484392
SRTR isn't going to just give you free godscript lessons for 100 years. That shit is repeatedly said to be a reward for loyal service, if you're not taking any initiative yourself she'll laugh in your face. It's the same reason bitter sickness isn't free for toyboxers -- SRTR can cure it but she won't, because that's lame.

Toyboxers finish learning everything from their mentors in 20-30 years and are left with nothing but time after that. You need to find a way to make that time productive yourself, and Tenyota sacrifices are one way to do that. Particularly since you have easy access to other Outsiders in a tidebox.

>>96484464
That's a mongolian

>One
American
>Savmak
American
>Sarmat
American

will the 12th be American?

>>96484463
Same but I liked her

>>96484468
Probably Russian again to keep them even. Author sensibilities. Also Savmak was clearly not a burger

>>96484443
>Three weeks? Four?
>It has been two weeks.
Huh . . .you're right. Just fifteen days.

>>96484473
The guy who founded New New York wasn't American?

take daemonhost
learn puxluxun mage cult shit in the toybox
spawn and sacrifice 10 majin every day for 100 years
profit

>>96484425
We're getting less and less based...

>>96484468
>One(1), Savmak(4), Sarmat(7), Katya(10)
It all makes sense now.

>>96484201
Whatever they want to be. ??? is technically a nightmare monster.

>>96484499
Nobody will miss her if I kill ??? right?

>>96484480
That's Sarmat no? Savmak founded the Exarchate but not New New York. Leading the blonde blue eyed people in an explosive expansion and being severely socially autistic and paranoid isn't american coded in my book

>>96484505
Who?

Erginter is thirdie coded.

>>96484512
Nobody gonna dispute that one chief

>>96484512
But she behaves like half this thread though?

>>96484473
>Same but I liked her
I don't like her because I'm not a sadomasochist. I'm not really looking forward to being a ghost and murdering/torturing people for being mean to cats with someone who treats me like shit forever.

>>96484517
Really makes you think

>>96484509
Southlanders are the German expy. Drakonids are the Anglo expy.

>>96484517
It's almost as if...

>>96484519
Well, in the story you can't exactly tinder on to the next ghost so I made my peace with it

>>96484505
No but why would you do that? The point of Thaumiel's little experiment is turning nightmares into people, basically mixing raw dream with her (and Keter's) physical flesh to make a person. Like using a seed of god-power to actualize something. ??? isn't bad or evil just because nightmare juice was involved in making her.

>>96484527
>in the story you can't exactly tinder on to the next ghost
Fuck is 'tinder on'?

>>96484525
How are drakonids anglo?

>>96484509
>Leading the blonde blue eyed people
believe it or not the USA is majority white
>in an explosive expansion
manifest destiny
>and being severely socially autistic and paranoid isn't american coded
where do you think we are?

>>96484517
>But she behaves like half this thread though?
Where else are you going to find a large pool of frustrated wannabe isekais who've put a lot of thought into the idea?

>>96484540
>Live on an island off the coast of not-Europe
>Think they're better than everyone else
>Use any opportunity to seize power, even world war
>Enslave others
>Cowards

>>96484539
Move on, tinder on. Tinder is a dating app you are probably culturally familiar with even if you avoided that particular mouse trap. It is well known to induce a mindset of "this looks nice but maybe there is something better" by turning candidates into a gambling gacha swipe spree. Which then leads to never settling on one option because the next one might be better, rince and repeat until the grave.

>>96484549
>uber based, generate ungodly levels of asshurt even past their prime
yeah I'm thinking they're anglo gods as well

what happens here?

>>96484562
Oh I forgot one.
>Slaves to Satan (True Dragons)

>>96484544
Coming from a steppe and being blond/blueeyed is the aryan mythos of ww2 fame, not even obscured by actual history or whatever imposing on it. Your points do work (especially the third) but if we are going to point at expys it's obvious.
But there are 2 outsiders associated with them, and a big migration from city x to New New York..

>>96484571
Japanese Beastmen constantly under fire, under siege, by the Ecumene. Bastionaria is basically constantly attacked, if you look at the geographical map the region south of it is basically an empty no-man's-land between mountain ranges with the Ecumene fortifying the opposite mountain range, so it's a perfect defensive spot.

what is the point of spamming 10 different old cyoas

>>96484575
>>96484544
The Morlocks, at least their current generation, are more directly burger coded, since they live in a modern corporate dystopia. That said it's pretty obvious Southlanders (under Savmak) are just Germans while Southlanders (under Sarmat) are also burger-coded, if only because he injected them directly with American culture. Most Americans being genetically German (not even British) helps connect these two.

>>96484585
Giving lurker newfags something to scroll through. Did you not start like that?

>>96484585
>what's the point of posting cyoas in the cyoa general?

>>96484585
Trying to drown out discussion.

>>96484589
Concurred. Though the Morlocks are more about the lifestyle and less the direct mapping imo. They were never really free and their societies eating Gnomes don't map either

>>96484585
1. Not everyone has seen them yet. We do get new people once in a while.

2. We're way, way past bump limit, so it doesn't inconvenience any of the other threads.

3. I'm bored of Outer Reincarnation posting.

Does that make the phoenixians jewish?
They are the chosen people, after all.

>>96484604
>We're way, way past bump limit, so it doesn't inconvenience any of the other threads.
That shouldn't be a concern. If we post more we are on page 1, that's how imageboards work and you shouldn't self-censor over it. Only becomes and issue if we are keeping 5 threads there at once.

>>96484585
Killing the thread again.

>>96484599
Hence it's just modern Morlocks. Until 0^0 stepped in they weren't anyone's analogue, 0^0 turned a sort of tragic race of survivors who attempted redemption but whose former victims chose revenge over forgiveness into a monument to the pointlessness and Meaningless of modern life. Probably echoing values she doesn't even really have (who actually likes that kind of world?), but pushes out of spite for the gods and their Meaning.

>>96484613
Excellent bait if it leads to anyone mentioning how aranea are parasites latching on to cultures and pretending to be all innocent, the parasites.
Or the muddish obsession with the past to the detriment of all others