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>Previous Thread:
>>96754404

>Thread Question
Which model do you want to see redesigned the most?

>>96757525 (OP)
>Which model do you want to see redesigned the most?
The primarchs, redesigned into corpses to decorate your bases with

>>96757525 (OP)
What are the odds that the winged prime gets a non winged or at least non monopose version. Just finished putting one together and was thinking about how shit it would look to have two clones of it.

What the fuck
https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/a-note-from-the-founder-of-wargames-atlantic

>Wargames atlantic founder is actually defiance games guy

>>96757525 (OP)
>Which model do you want to see redesigned the most?
Holy motherfucking shit the Lord of Skulls is the absolute worst shithead of plastic ever manaufactured out of Nottingham. I want the designers publicly humiliated and to have them banned from every single pub in a 19 mile radius of Games Workshop's HQ.

>>96757525 (OP)

> TQ
Grey Knights.
Not (just) because they are badly-proportioned manlets, but because their whole aesthetic is just shit. Gigantic texts like 'knight' or 'champion' plastered over them like motivational post-it notes. Massive ammo clips awkwardly hanging off the side of their guns. Stupid squatting poses.

They should look like the artwork where they are covered in esoteric scripture.that is properly integrated into the armour, with all the knightly trappings you'd expect of a holy daemon-slayer.

>>96757525 (OP)
>pic
>next level painting
holy fuck I remember randomly encountering his video once, that dude was sure something else
wonder if he's still alive
>TQ
make WYCHES sexy again, that's it

>>96757525 (OP)
>slaaneshi shit
>vandalised op with the removal and modification of links

>>96757525 (OP)
>TQ
ASDRUBAEL VECT on the DAIS OF DESTRUCTION

>>96757568
Report it so mods delete it and we can get a real new thread

Let Chaos idols take this thread!

Reminder that this bint burns coal

>>96757525 (OP)
>TQ

honestly i dont know, as an ork player id like to see an update of the weirdboy model, the current one sucks imo. also maybe a redo of the new boyz kit, i like the poses but the push fit bullshit with all of the awful gaps makes it inferior to the old boyz kit

>>96757525 (OP)
>TQ
Asdrubael Vect. I don't even play Dark Eldar, but I still want to see a glorious new Vect miniature on par wit Glutos Orscollion and Katakros

>>96757606
The emperor's children? I'm sure they've done much more depraved things than that.

>>96757611
I don't trust current GW to do justice to Vect.

It's done. Maybe not 100% accurate to the old studio fort but close enough for me. Pretty happy with it.

>>96757632
looks lovely anon, id gladly stick my lootas and big mek on top of that

>>96757632
And one with some guys. I gotta set up my table for some pics but my garage is full of bikes and cars.

>>96757637
Oh wow it looked much smaller without the minis. Good work.

>>96757632
I'd put some metal colour on the bits sticking from the concrete. Like reinforcements showing from the damaged parts.

>>96757525 (OP)
>TQ
A new take on Chaos androids would be interesting, and Daemon engine infantry could be a fun niche.

>>96757638
AoS might as well exist in another universe from the stuff they're making for 40k.

Convince me not to. Please...

>>96757649
It literally does, doroo

>>96757636
>>96757642
Thanks
>>96757643
Oh you're right. I'll put some on, thanks

Why the fuck did they make the Harlequin box a one and done FOMO set instead a permanent part of the range. I'm going to throw up.

>>96757653
>17 Citadel Miniatures

finished that terminator
thought i had a second one to do but he was used up as kitbash fodder

>>96757683
Very nice. I like his face.

>>96757683
so much better than allurus

>>96757666
FOMO is the new standard practice anon, I'm just waiting for supermarkets to discover that fruits/vegetables are fomo by nature.

>>96757683
not pissing on your modelling skills anon, just curious - are those moldlines on his boots?
>>96757637
nice one mate

>point nerfs are irrelevant DG is still op
>winrate drops to 47%
lmao

>>96757683
what do you use to make his boots look dirty?

>>96757669
It's a good discount. The Exorcist is free.

>>96757743
nah they're part of the design - you can see the lines on the FW team's paintjob. my drybrush may have made them a little too striking however
the really egregiously mould line is on his powerfist which i somehow missed

>>96757666
Harlequins are very unpopular. They didn't think many people would want a box and there even being a box puts further strain on their manufacturing capacity as they need to keep those boxes and minis stocked while when sold separately they can keep them temporarily unavailable for months without a care in the world.

>>96757547
Are you that new? When WGA made their first sets, people already were arguing that it's probably WGF-reborn.

>>96757769
I love how you fags always come up with different copes why something new is either sold out or still in stock

>>96757666

Harlequins are getting remade through Kill Team so GW wants to offload all their old troupes. This box will look like a really good deal until next year's resculpts mog them for size, aesthetics and coming in squads of 5-10 to fuck with old collections.

OK so the way the Guardian equipment belts work is you like one end up with the thong line?

Eldar sisters, is there anything I'm missing?

>>96757769
>box sells out instantly
ah, this proves how unpopular they are!
>>96757810
I haven't seen any rumors of that. The most reputable rumor mongers say Exodites are the next Kill Team for Eldar

>>96757810
>Harlequins are getting remade through Kill Team so GW wants to offload all their old troupes.
>replacing 7th edition miniatures
lol lmao they didn't bother to make new minis for kabalite warriors and you think they replace the troupe?
At best they get a extra sprue and that's it

>>96757637
sovl. would you allow charges up it?

>>96757751
It’s less they’re bad and more that there’s better armies now, so the community did this.

>>96757881
Clowns unironically sell better than Dark Eldar.

>>96757666
So glad I preordered this, Satan

>>96757773
>>96757834
>make 30 boxes worldwide
>they all sell out worldwide
>THIS IS THE MOST POPULAR ARMY EVER CREATED
kek

>>96757916
>Clowns unironically sell better than Dark Eldar.
Source?

>>96757834
>The most reputable rumor mongers say Exodites are the next Kill Team for Eldar
Source?

I feel like you Eldarfags always talk out of your ass. Valrak said Corsair jump pack unit btw.

I suspect what happened with harlequins is a lot of craftworlds players have wanted to dip their toes in to clowns for a while and this box put them over the line.
I know that happened for me and another craftworlds player I know

>>96757881
>they didn't bother to make new minis for kabalite warriors
Because that's coming next Edition. They just added that extra sprue to get a bit more life out of the kit, same as they did with the old Cadian kit

Schrödinger's pre-order,
The box is either underproduced or overproduced depending on the observers opinion.

>>96757666
Because they knew it'd sell.
That's an absurdly good Combat Patrol that comes with a Transport, and specialist Vehicle, a very punchy pseudo-named character, and the generic leader of the mini-faction. It's 565p out of the box and offers a good start for anyone to either start a Harlie army or add Harlies to their existing army.

>>96757943
Yeah I preordered on as soon as I saw they were limited. But now I'm worried I should get a second. I was going to do that eventually anyway if they were permanent products, but now I feel rushed.
>>96757957
>Source?
Valrak. And he didn't say Corsair jump packs for Kill Team, he said a mini Corsair wave including jetpacks, a couple characters, and a new Vyper kit as part of the end of edition narrative.

>>96757906
The meta shift wasn't kind to DG, at the end of the day it's a very "honest" army in that they have very few tricks up their sleeve. They're extremely lethal which is good when there are big units to kill so they can get value trades (Knight meta) but bad when the lethal units are tiny and trading up all the time, which is what we have no with Admech and Sisters.
Still the most fun book of the edition and now I get to play them without people hating them so I'm super happy.

elves >:(

>>96757957
They’re usable by two armies and used have a competitive reputation and sold crazily well. Dark Eldar don’t see sales bumps even when good, or Skarii wins his 8th tournament of the year with them.

>>96757977
>But now I'm worried I should get a second.
Why? What's the point? They will probably be squatted. One box for nostalgia is enough.
There's a reason they squatted the separate Harlequin army. It's over.

elves <3

>>96757984
>Still the most fun book of the edition and now I get to play them without people hating them so I'm super happy.
I still hate them. I can hold a grudge a long time.

>>96757987
>>96757994
elf butts :)

>>96757990
Bruh, The entire Dark Eldar range has been sold out for like a month and a half now. They sell like crazy every time they get a new release, as rare as that is.

>>96757960
Yep, I already had a troupe to run around in Ynnari, I picked up the combat patrol because it has two boats, it's rare to if it had a death jester instead of solitaire maybe I'd have gotten two.

>>96757992
>There's a reason they squatted the separate Harlequin army. It's over.
You mean just like SOB until they came back, or genestealer cult until they came back or witch hunters until they came back with imperial agents.

>>96758006
>anon this delusional about a minor irrelevant squatted mini faction
Sad to see, honestly.

I keep jumping from project to project ahhhh
What are you guys up to?

>>96757957
>Corsair jump pack unit
What jump pack unit would they even get? Kill team already had one dude with a warp spider backback, other than that they have the winged backpacks like hawks and scourges but these don't seem veru corsair-y to me desu.

Where does she put her feet? This suit is very weird.

>>96758017
Something like the Forge World upgrade kit, which was a callback to Rogue Trader.

>>96758011
>minor irrelevant squatted mini faction
Harlequins are part of 40k since rogue trader they ain't going anywhere

>>96758004
Yeah I have 1 troupe already too, so adding this box gives me a nice mini-army as an addition to my craftworlders and my backlog dark eldar

>>96757632
>>96757637
It looks so good like wtf

>>96758027
As a faction they are already gone.

>>96757992
There's no reason for GW to squat them. They're a small range that doesn't take up production time, they're in one of the most popular army books, they show up in the lore all the time playing key roles, there's no other game system to move them to, and as we've just seen, they sell.

>>96758020
Instead of wheelchairs they should have suits like these.

>>96757999
Not surprising considering even my area’s GW just kept a few boxes of Kabelites and maybe a Lilith on the shelves until release time. They just don’t sell well enough to stock outside a few week window when their codex hits and they can sucker people into clearing stock.

>>96758033
>As a faction they are already gone
Still playable since 1988 cope harder

The DEfag 'cord really doesn't like it when you remind them they are the most unpopular 40k faction

>>96758027
Harlequins should never have existed outside CWE. Making the guardians of the black library a faction is like making the guardians of the emperor a standalone faction.

>>96758016
Finished my broadside; still fucking around with my counts-as-farsight.

I think that's technically all the suits built for my 1000 points. I just gotta do some more converting, finish basing and do all the painting.

>>96758048
Heh

>>96758040
She apparently can get out and walk normally. She just doesn't want to because it was a gift from Custodes or some shit and it's sacred and she gets wet while inside of it.

The problem with Harlequins is simple; where do you go with them when it comes to new models? They basically have everything they 'need'; They have a physical leader, a psker leader, two specialist characters, a semi-elite troop option, cavalry, a transport, and a flexible vehicle.
The only thing they lack is a big monster, which doesn't really fit the faction. At best they could get a Wraithlord unit and MAYBE a heavier vehicle.

>>96758006
>just like witch hunters with imperial agents
Delusional, imperial agents is one kit and some random named inquisitors. We don’t even have a plastic basic inquisitor

It’s not a returned witch hunters it’s just a way to sell kill teams in 40k

>>96758047
Aren't Votrannies or GSC even less popular?

>>96758043
Show me the Harlequin 10th edition Codex.

>>96758055
votann, the same votann who got their range expanded with 20 new kits while DE got a pity HQ?

>>96758048
yeah, that would be crazy

>>96758049
Hope you're magnetizing them.

>>96758053
Land Raider with upgrade sore since it’ll be leave the Marine line soon.

>>96758060
These kits were designed and produced before votann sold even a single box though.

>>96758047
its discord, what do you expect?

I bet half of them are shilling the voidscarred novel despite not reading it because it aligns with them politically

>>96758066
>>96758047
What level of schizo is this

>>96758063
Why did the artist draw armpit hair on mr harlequin there?

>>96758063
Auto correct really got me on this one lmao.

>>96758062
Oh yeah, you can't see it from here but all the options are magnetized on these. Prima-dona in the middle excluded cause of course Farsight gets no options.

Broadside was a bear cause I went and magnetized the entire arms and shoulders so I can swap in the missile launchers, as well as the support system and plasma on the shoulders.

Coldstar there has 4 magnetic weapon attachment points and is also held in position by that puck on his leg. I wanted something more subtle, but it really needs the strength there.

I got 6 more crisis suits also magnetized and modularized,

>>96758053
Second troop options with heavier firepower, dualbuild with lasers or missile launches (light shows vs pyrotechnics)
HQ on bike
Named character
Avatar of Cegorach that's actually a giant puppet

That right there would make Harlequins way more viable as a standalone force.

>>96758071
It’s a tasseled jacket

>>96758054
To be fair that was a bad example but my point still stands
>>96758057
Stop arguing in bad faith , by your reasoning every SM subfaction is squatted because they share one codex.

>>96758080
>he thinks people can see the hard to reach places during a game
>inb4 well actually if I place the model 3" away from my eyeball and rotate it 210 degrees like so and them use my phone to zoom in then...

>>96758087
>bros faction needed creepy uncle vendr to repair his gods chair for him

>>96758081
stop coping and face reality

>>96758051
>she gets wet while inside of it
Should have started with that ngl

>>96758087
>Acrobatic Melee combatants stand still and fire pistols at a vehicle
God the writers are stupid. It’s the opposite of that comic panel where 15 Banshees jump at a marine pointing a rocket launcher at the ground with their swords instead of shooting him.

>>96758069
eldar level of the highest kind

>>96758071
It's their hair, baka

>>96757525 (OP)
The only interesting thing about the Howling Griffons is their fortress-monastery, apart from that they are just weak Dark Angels.

>>96758081
Unfortunately anon I don’t think they’re ever going to be a separate faction. There’s just not enough to build on there.

I’d be perfectly happy if they get a grotmas detachment of their own or rolled into an Eldar mercenaries sort of thing

do you guys think the 7th edition codexes will be worth any money? i tried to get as many of the pre primaris books from my lgs as i could

>>96758115
sorry but your faction is the fodder of the day for bolter porn

>>96758121
Codex aeldari is pretty big right now.
Would be good to have
>Codex craftworlds
>Codex drukhari
>Codex other eldar
The last one with clowns, corsairs, ynnari etc

>>96758121
All Eldar are going to be folded into one book, GW is cutting down on unnecessary model lines.

>>96758131
Are you underage?

>>96758121
>Unfortunately anon I don’t think they’re ever going to be a separate faction. There’s just not enough to build on there
People always say this shit until they expand on something like they did with GSC or Votann.
>I’d be perfectly happy if they get a grotmas detachment of their own or rolled into an Eldar mercenaries sort of thing
While not happy that we got shoved into one book with CW i can understand it and be happy about having my little corner, I'm just pissed when people want to erase essential parts of the setting until nothing but fucking SM exist, we have Horus heresy for that shit.

>>96758139
Echskuze me chuddy but Eldar is xers deadname it's Aeldari now bigot

>>96758139
>GW is cutting down on unnecessary model lines.
Lol
The directly contrary thing is happening. More and more subfactions and factions are being made. And not squatted.

>>96758154
Reddit experts have informed me that it’s perfectly healthy for loyalist Marines to get 50+ model kits an edition while other factions get 1. Because they sell more!!

>>96758139
>GW is cutting down on unnecessary model lines.
You say that but then they keep shit like the primaris Mario kart and turret that no one buys

>>96758145
Ultras always win. Are you underage?

>>96758145
He might be a retard but he's not wrong; if the lazy animation on the eldar wasn't enough of a hint, those scorps were literally there to be mowed down in that shot.

It could be worse, the last time I saw my xenos do something cool in an official GW thing was a seven second clip of stealth battlesuits suits being actually stealth as marines were trying to splat them.

>>96758165
>Ultras always win
One word, leviathan.

>>96758077
how do I play Clowns? It seems that strong as they are, they are still pretty expensive so if you don't make any mistakes they still shoot one thing down, charge another, then die on the clap-back, and if they ever shoot you first (or god forbid, they have one (1) whirlwind, you're dead.

>>96758160
its not that either, they're cutting down on less popular factions while making new factions (it will sell because its new) and subfactions

GK, Daemons etc will go, while their spots are replaced with Votaan and Emperors Children

>>96758160
Daemons and Deathwatch are both dead, Harliquins are dead, Dark Eldar are going to be dead with Grey Knights.

>>96758171
At the expense of sound a bit of a dick, I think Harlequins are one of those armies that if you have to ask how to play them you should pick something else.

They hard as fuck.

>>96758172
>we replaced more uniqe factions with small marines and even more gay marines
Dead setting

>>96758157
I forgot, hopefully the Voidscarred Baronex will forgive me.

>>96758181
I already play GSC and do fairly well, I can take it anon.

How would you make warriors good without giving them an absurdly low PPM

>>96758168
Sorry, kiddo, but the infinite bug swarm did not cease the existence of Ultras. Until GW changes their marketing, the boys in blue will always dust off any minor inconvenience thrown their way.

>>96758145
>Are you underage?
What a weird thing to say. Are you a predator or something?

>>96758165
They lost at
>Dal'yth
>Damnos (first battle)
>Shadow Crusade
>Eskrador
>Calth

>>96758193
Make them significantly stronger?

>>96758171
Sure, I'll do a write up.

Heavily reliant on the Starweaver and Falcon to survive. Anything that gives you extra moves after fight phase lets you get back into transports. Death Reaper famously has a combo where he rides around in a starweaver behind a wall, hops out on the other side of the wall, then hops back in to the not visible starweaver. It is quite literally the ultimate glass cannon army. You HAVE to use every bullshit trick in your arsenal just to go even, but they do have those bullshit tricks like 6" consolidate and such. My personal list uses Shadowseers and Warlocks to buff up Wraithlords as the "hammer" for the Harlequins "anvil" and corsairs to scout to draw them out because I'm not really a good enough player to maximize that style of trade gameplay.

Eldra is also great in that list because of the CP generation and leading a full squad of warlocks. Warlock on Jet Bike is just an amazing solo character who can buff the Wraithlords.

I've thought about painting an Avatar of Khaine in clown/wraithknight panoply but they both are pretty bad for the points right now (doubly so with the meta so kitted to kill knights)

>>96758193
seeing the price of these things is kinda what made me stay away from tyranids.

So I wanted to start Tau after my Necrons but I'm having second thoughts and now thinking about Eldar. Could I get some advice? Tau have a Battleforce incoming while Eldar kinda have nothing. They would be however easier to start as they require no magnetization or other advanced techniques.

>>96758199
Don't forget that their primarch had to be resurrected by xenos magic and mechanicum life support instead of just waking up like lion did

>>96758199
A lot of 30k in there. What's that? Horus is dead? And the traitors had to retreat back to the eye of terror in the counter attack?
Anyway, it's not even a fucking pissing contest: Ultras have plot armor until GW says otherwise. see >>96758194

>>96758211
Only because Fulgrim jobbed like usual and couldn’t kill the weakest in melee Primarch besides maybe Lorgar.

>>96758211
At least he has an excuse rather than just being a lazy cunt

>>96758204
>65 ppm

>>96758193
Give the melee variants a S8 weapon and a S6 D2 weapon. They literally ONLY have twin linked S5 D1, so each one is basically just wielding two power swords. Each one is essentially weaker than an individual Terminator, with the same wounds less saves and worse weapon options and terminators aren't great. Terminators are about 40PPM usually and nids are 25PPM, so it makes sense. But Terminators aren't GOOD and they are so similar to them actually while being worse. Tank killing things EXPLODE them, Infantry killing things EXPLODE them. It's like their profile was designed to be weak to everything, where as Termies at least have their invuln. It puts them in this wierd situation of being 25PPM and only being good at killing things that are 10PPM.

So yea, as I said already. Needs more weapon options so when they do get into a target they actually do something when there. Because they are too squishy too tarpit, too expensive not to do damage for the cost, too low in number to hold objectives, too limited in the targets they are good at killing... etc etc

>>96758211
>champions flexibility and adaptability
>couldn't flex out of the of a blade
>couldn't adapt to the poison
is he retarded?

>>96758216
>And the traitors had to retreat back to the eye of terror in the counter attack?
And the Ultras still lose from time to time, on both 30k and 40k.

>>96758219
Your obsession with EC is hilarious. I accept your concession.

>>96758223
I mean I dont even care for the points, that shit changes all the time. $80 for three dudes is fucking stupid. Its why I dont understand tau paypigs at all. They dont think straight.

shadowsun or farsight?

>>96758228
A single LT. And two intercessors buck broke the entirety of the Thousand Sons, except Magnus, canonically since those games are canon now.

>>96758173
>>96758172
Deathwatch just got an unit, they aren't going anywhere
Daemons currently are AoS models so they will keep getting only a bare minimum of support in 40k and TOW. Until they get 40k specific kits, which leaks say may be in that new 11th Edition Chaos army.
Grey Knights will get a refresh in 11th we already know this. And getting rid off them in particular would be absurd when they have a stronger visual identity than most of 1st founding chapters. And GW already refreshed Bangels, Dangels, Wolves and Chud Templars. They need more Marines, not less.
Eldar Corsairs will get an expansion soon
Dark Eldar wave 1 will be in 11th Edition
Exodite Kill Team
Harlequins may come after them at earliest but won't be squatted either
Orks will get more culturs
Catachans will arrive in 11th as an another unique IG regiment
Tau will get more auxiliaries as we already know from rumor engine

>>96758193
What >>96758202 said, they're meant to be closer to Bladeguard vets (and are comparable PPM) but them not having invulns or fnps linda makes them shit.
Either that or make them closer to terminators.

>>96758220
>At least he has an excuse rather than just being a lazy cunt
I mean hole yourself up in your room after getting your mid life crisis is understandable, getting cut by a metrosexual SM snake only to be put inside a jar for other people to look at you like a museum prop is not

>>96758240
Deathwatch and GK will be fully folded into Imperial Agents next edition where they can be safely forgotten about.

>>96758239
Titus is a former captain, so it's better to look at the Space Marine Captain datasheet and https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/space-marines/Lieutenant-Titus.

That said, yes. Main characters tend to wipe out everything. In Tau Fire Warrior a single blueberry wipes out an entire guard, inquisition and CSM force.

>>96758254
The difference is Fire Warrior isn’t canon.

>>96758228
>And the Ultras still lose from time to time, on both 30k and 40k.
And it's treated like a sitcom, dude. It's been over 20 years of Ultra dominance. They dip into the Genesis chapter after every event, and are probably stronger than they were before because of veteran knowledge.

>>96758166
It's not that he's wrong, it's that he's being really juvenile.

Ultras are annoying as fuck. Why is this allowed? GW is such a joke.

>>96758239
>30k doesn't count
>video games do
lmao.

>bu-but uwtwamaweens won here!
Yeah and the ultramarines still lose from time to time.

>>96758240
Remember when the same faggots said that we would never get plastic krieg because the army isn't popular enough or GW wouldn't waste a release on non space marins unit and so on, its just the usual trolling

>>96758267
why do you care about special characters?

>>96758273
Why do you care about him caring?

>>96758267
you forgot kharn

a year + of NEETdom has given me plenty of time to work on my grey pile.

currently 7/10 on my hellblaster squad.

Also obligatory hand posting

I would just like to point out that the mark of calth is still ticking.

>>96758267
All the tie in media is Ultras, its just that simples.

>>96757760
airbrushed vallejo mud brown then a thin reikland fleshshade wash

>>96758267
Deathwatch has an epic hero. Watch Captain Artemis. He hates aliens a lot and bitch slapped Eldrad.

>>96758287
plasma coils looks nice. i think you may need to thin your paints a bit more.
keep going, anon!

>>96758269
The issue is “from time to time” where all non-loyalists space marine factions have far more losses than wins on their records

>>96758296
a setting cant have main characters

>>96757525 (OP)
>Thread Question
>Which model do you want to see redesigned the most?
I have a soft spot for Nazdreg, I used him back in 2nd ed. Wish I'd kept him.

>>96758298
>Ultras never lose
>it doesn't matter if they lost because they haven't lost enough

>>96757632
>>96757637
peak soul
you could tell me this was from an old white dwarf terrain article and I wouldnt doubt it

>>96758303
I've seen people using the old metal Ghaz for him now, with a little bit of work.

>>96758297
i do leadbelcher with 1/2 coats of black templar contrast over the top.

i think im probably applying too much leadbelcher on my basecoat.

>>96758316
I actually do have the old metal Ghaz, but I'd like to keep it in its old paint scheme for nostalgia purposes
Its a good base though, maybe I'll see if I can't find another one cheap somewhere, good idea anon

>>96758300
lol, lmao you can tell me this when a faction other than space marines fights someone in an edition start box.

>>96758300
>a setting cant have main characters
That the thing anon for them its a story not a setting for them it needs a beginning/middle/end, it needs hero's and villains, side characters and love interest and all that other bullshit.

>>96758300
sorry sweaty, GW says the core of 40k is the Imperium versus Chaos. The human race fighting their inner daemons is the main story, and you xenosfags are filling out the NPC rolls for side quests.

do demon princes count as fallen angels

>>96758296
>he says while posting the background faction

>>96758295
Artimis is going to be squatted soon.

>>96758303
I found a scan of that model (I think without the arms) and I use it as the nobz for my 2nd ed boyz

>>96758206
The Eldar Combat Patrol is very solid (aside from Dire Avengers being a pretty old kit). It's also a great start to an Aspect Warrior-heavy Eldar army, which is both a strong way to play and pretty elite. And a great hobby project to boot.

The Tau battleforce isn't great, it's only like 500 points and that's including Farsight, who you may or may not want to play.

Eldar are in a really good place right now with so much of their army being new to brand new fantastic plastic kits. They have a ton of versatility in play style too. Tau are bit inbetween, with their most iconic thing, Crisis Suits, being an old kit and a crazy expensive kit too. An they have a much more limited playstyle.

If you're genuinely torn and aren't leaning one way or the other, Eldar are the safer bet for having a good time building, painting, and playing. But if you're leaning Tau but just noticed how cool Eldar are, then maybe you really do want to play Tau but you're hesitating because of the money and time commitment of an army

So really, as always, listen to you heart.

>>96758333
>The human race fighting their inner daemons is the main story
no, thats the setting

>>96758340
only if they were space marines first

>>96758296
I am perfectly happy being the jobbers. Losing is much more erotic than winning.

>>96758296
>being so creatively bankrupt you need others to come up with characters and stories for you in a sandbox setting

>>96758303
The big old hand klaw and a fancy bad moonz gun would be pretty fun to see reimagined

>>96758351
>The Tau battleforce isn't great, it's only like 500 points
That might be so but Tau are fucvk expensive so any bit helps. The optimal way would be to buy 2x 2024 Battleforce and the 2025 and like 2 more boxes of Crisis Suits for a complete army but it's hard as fuck to find the 2024 battleforce for retail.

>>96758340
No, deamon primarchs count as them though. daemon princes are nietzschean ubermen who have made a pact with the Demiurgs to ascend above humanity

>>96758296
I'm okay with being on the sidelines. Makes it more fun to do /yourdudes/ without worrying about anything. You can't really make /yourdudes/ with canon chapters full of named characters and assigned roles like captains.

>>96758296
Considering the main story is homosexual soap opera shit that isn't much of a loss

>>96758333
>setting gets worse the more focus is on chaos

>>96758333
sounds like some homo shit

>>96758374
Skinwalker flayers could be cool. Imagine a flayer lord who has wiped out an astartes chapter and thinks hes a chapter master. They see imperials in trouble and send word their mighty noble chapter is coming to aid them and they teleport into a field and the astartes are just torn skin and shredded power armour that start killing everyone else around them. Could be cool

The cope and seethe never gets old.

>>96758119
Is that a ship front?

>>96758399
Wasn't there concept art of a flayer lord out there
They should do more with the idea, give us a FEC equivalent faction

>TQ
as a salty GK player, Kaldor Draigo. give me my 6" charge from deep strike back, please.

>>96758386
true. they dont even bother with proper warzone/campaign books anymore, thats how bad the setting became.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96758417
Who doesn't want to live in a house with a ship in the middle?

>>96758401
Your faction has cum (geneseed) inserted into them by people they call father

>>96758418
>FEC
who?
>Wasn't there concept art of a flayer lord out there
Nope, theres a flayer lord boss in the mechanicum game but thats it as far as I know

>>96757525 (OP)
>Which model do you want to see redesigned the most
The one of the gay reddit da vinci models out of a hat so there can be some more cyber horror in admech

>Another Cawl book
>Involves raiding a Necron Tomb World
>But AKSHULLY Vashtorr is there too so we don't have to write Necrons!
Holy fucking shit it's already awful.

>>96757525 (OP)
Looks like Mister Popo

>>96758225
Melee warriors actually hit kind of really fucking hard, and if you don't think so, you've never delivered a 6-man with a prime into a target. They're S6, thanks to being Synapse themselves (so always get the +1S) and Tyranids have pretty easy access to +1 to wound from Neurolictors. It takes some setup, of course, but that unit will fucking annihilate anthing that isn't T12. I play them in Vanguard, and with Surprise assault, you have 36 (+6 from the leader, but he's unironically worse at doing damage due to not having twin-linked and just AP-1) attacks that hits on 2s re-rolling 1s, sus1 (so average like 42 hits), wounds on 4+ on anything T7-11 and even better on lower toughness stuff. They almost kill a fucking knight on average dice in a single combat phase when you set it up like this, and a prime+6 warriors is just 225 points (you also want a neurolictor or similar, but those are amazing on their own). Melee Warriors are incredibly killy for their points.
The problem with warriors isn't their damage output, it's how easy they are to kill combined with how difficult they are to hide (those 50mm bases fuck them over) and outside of vanguard they're too slow to be reliably delivered. So if you wanted to buff (melee) Warriors, you'd have to make them tankier, but their profile is already fairly impressive as is (on paper) and we absolutely don't want a repeat of 9th ed with stacking defensive abilities that made them absurdly hard to kill. I honestly think the best buff they could get is going to back to 40mm bases.

>>96758437
Sorry you have to play 30k for good mech models

>>96758423
>they dont even bother with proper warzone/campaign books anymore

>>96758351
>If you're genuinely torn and aren't leaning one way or the other, Eldar are the safer bet for having a good time building, painting, and playing. But if you're leaning Tau but just noticed how cool Eldar are, then maybe you really do want to play Tau but you're hesitating because of the money and time commitment of an army
Both actually. I was dead set on Tau because Suits and Mecha are cool and they are getting a Battleforce but I was hesitating due to the fact they need magnets and maybe big robots require a more experienced hobby enthusiast to do them justice. Eldar look good and yeah I would lean into the Aspect playstyle. They were my second choice but the fact they are newer and easier to get into made them jump to #1 consideration. I'm however not a fan how beaten and humiliated Eldar are in the lore.

I also made some calculations and an Eldar army would cost me about the same as a Tau army (including the Battleforce discount) so it's about the same.

>>96758441
Sorry chud but only chaos matters as an antagonist in 40k(haos) enjoy irrelivence in your own books Xenos child

>>96758267
Now do regular units

>>96758437
>everything I don't like is reddit

>96758401
>superiority
>forced to rebuy his entire army only for gw to backpedal and make real truescale miniatures
>fluff of his faction raped in the process of what is mentioned above
>even the crunch of the army is lost by making aspect warriors
>chaos counterpart meanwhile gets new miniature while suffering none of the above
And the loyalist piggy will squeal in delight as he rebus his army for the 3rd time .

>>96757649
AoS/fantasyfags are way more critical of their shit than 40k ones
>Rejecting TET
>Rejecting characters coming back
>Rejecting stormcast
>Rejecting Kragnos' goofy plotline
>Rejecting grotwolves
If this was the 40k fanbase there would be countless secondaries cocksucking every last one of these

>>96758451
I’ve never seen someone with this book in public, and it’s for a game mode that no one plays.

>>96758459
yes

>>96757525 (OP)
>Which model do you want to see redesigned the most?
him.
Hopefully with rules for Hermiatus in 40k

>>96758451
yes, shit compared to the campaign books from 7th edition.

>>96758449
One of the defining moments proving warhammer hinges on particular individuals.

>>96758333
>>96758457
>implying Chaos matters
Curious, you say that yet you throw a hissy fit when its pointed out how Yabbadabbadon is destined & ordained to enslave Chaos to his will. You grow angrier, finding escape in saying that he is just another puppet in spite of the fluff saying otherwise. Meanwhile, Chaos Daemon fluff is still in a pretty awful state
I am very intelligent

>>96757525 (OP)
Imperial agents expansion is coming!! I can feel it!!
>TQ
Deamonhost and the genestealer limo

>>96758463
>>96758478
>nobody plays it!
>its bad!
goalpost status: moved
cope about GW selling out these books everytime: assmad

>>96758461
AoSfags rejected Stormcast because they were not WFB, now they reject grotwolves and characters coming back because it's not AoS (they seethe at ToW) and Kragnos... Kragnos was fucking retarded and should've been a Beastman or have his own Centaur Army.

>>96758476
>"corrupted Patriarch" with alternate bits to build it as the Malstrain Patriarch, the Patriarch of Khaine, an ork derived Patriarch, an Augmented Bladed Cog Patriarch, or all at the same time.

>>96758457
>This latest tale focuses on Cawl's continued efforts to stabilise the Attilan Gap at the order of Roboute Guilliman, to provide another potentially functional route for crossing the Great Rift.In order to put his latest great work into action, he requires one last item – a series of control codes preserved on an ancient Necron world.
>The hitch is that this planet is trapped on the event horizon of a black hole, increasing the risk substantially, even after factoring in the residents. To achieve his mission, Cawl will need to call on recruits from across the Adeptus Mechanicus. And to make matters even worse, the Archmagos’ meddlings in matters best left untouched have piqued the attention of a like-minded but altogether more malicious artificer, and rumours abound that Vashtorr the Arkifane is on the move…
This reads like a shitty comic book hook

>>96758495
>cope about GW selling out these books everytime
If we apply the same logic that other anons use then they only sold out because they made 7 of them

>>96758431
>homoshit homoshit homoshit
lmao
doesn't work, stay mad

>>96758430
Probably the inhabitants of Galaspar, after Mortarion crashed a ship through a spire in an attempt to bypass their heavy defences.

>>96758451
>>96758495
>Chaos smashed Sangua Terra in the first book
>Steel Legion turned traitor or evaporated after coming in contact with the WE in the second book
lmao

What army do you play and do you like tomboys?

should i get a second dunerider/skorpius disentegrator or 2 more kastelan robots so i have 4 in total?

>>96758300
Yes it can, like how America is the main character faction of real life

>>96758370
>daemon princes are nietzschean ubermen who have made a pact with the Demiurgs to ascend above humanity
not how princehood works in current fluff
In Siege of Terra its described as growing a cancerous tulpa clone of yourself inside of you until it erupts and completely overwrites you
Same flaw as trying to upload your consciousness digitally when its just a copy, not (You)

>>96758515
>>Steel Legion turned traitor or evaporated after coming in contact with the WE in the second book
Don't worry, the Death Korps was there to take over! Isn't it great?! *Raises shovel*

>>96758503
If they were written today the Cain books wouldn’t sell any copies because they don’t have any NAMED CHARACTERS TM, in them. Genuinely sad

>>96758522
Good thing lame things like that aren't canon.

>>96758524
Yea it is great since Krieg are a faction people actually buy instead of claiming they like them like the Steel Legion.

>>96758510
Nta anon but we could also say that marines eat shit because at one point they did

>>96758522
Do you have source for this like the actual passage/page? Seems to contradict what the codex says.

>>96758528
Pure cope

any of you guys excited for the new wolf scout KT? i am fairly new to the hobby and have been building a 2000pt Space Wolves army, thinking of using these guys in my army as a Librarian in Phobos and Incursors when they drop

speaking of wolves, what are peoples' thoughts on the Thunderwolf Cavalry getting a refresh in 11th edition?

>>96758516
Crimson Slaughter and yes

>>96758503
>this planet is trapped on the event horizon of a black hole
wait what

Did someone say Steel Legion?

>>96758536
>erm can u get a source for that
Lol, lmao even

>>96758536
Not him but I've seen it posted.
It basically says that the soul that attains Apotheosis is destroyed as a Daemon is 'born' assuming their identity. The original soul is destroyed in the process. I think it likened it to something hatching from an 'egg' with the original soul being the shell.

>>96758540
Even if I played SW I wouldn't grab these, some basic kitbash and greenstuff would make a better version.

>>96758540
Eh, Phobos armour kind of sucks

>>96758546
There's only one battle for Armageddon that matters ma'm.

>>96758522
>Same flaw as trying to upload your consciousness digitally when its just a copy, not (You)
Lame, deamon princes being a transference of your mind is part of the horror of them. They arent a different being they're still the same person they once were and they chose to strip away every part of themnselves in the name of power. They are to a man and women, Griffiths, notTulpa clone. removes too much agency and character and emotion

why is everyone on here so angry all the time

>>96758563
Don't you fucking call me angry you fucking cunt

>>96758560
Isn't there like 4 wars now?

>>96758026
>turned guardians into jet-pack infantry with missile launchers
I believe these were one of the things forgeworld put out that weren't overcosted and performed well for their cost. Too bad that doom of mymeara didn't include more corsair type units instead of just small conversions for guardians.

>>96758546
You got any steel Legion models anon?

>>96758522
prove it

>>96758542
It's like that so when Cawl and Vashtorr reach the center of the Tomb World they can fight over the code which accidentally deactivates the Macguffin Field around the planet and makes it start to fall into the Black Hole, so Cawl can have a super cool escape sequence as the book's finale.

>>96758535
>niche 'canon' to illustrate an organ's function
yeah, don't care.
anons are twisting and contorting themselves to frame space marines as lame and humans not the center of attention.

>>96758561
>Griffiths
Omg guys, he mentioned the heckin awesome gritty anime.

>>96758569
Officially the Season of Blood is just a part of the third war for Armageddon

Would this be a good start to an Eldar army? Should I even start an Eldar army?

>>96758516
Eldar
Ofc

>>96758563
I genuinely don't get it, you'd think this place doesn't have a fast enough inflow of newbies not accustomed to the constant ragebait, but either it does, or most of the people here simply enjoy being angry. Or there's a really obsessed handful of idiots who roleplay as both sides to try to get some bullshit going.

>>96758573
Not yet, managed to get scans of the metal models and planning on getting those models I posted after I finish my cadians.

>>96758553
>I think it likened it to something hatching from an 'egg' with the original soul being the shell
Berserk did it better

>>96758540
They’re ugly even by space marine standards

>>96758573
NTA but there’s dozens of us

>>96758588
>Would this be a good start
Yes.
>Should I?
Debatable. They're not likely to be getting much in terms of new or refreshed models any time soon so unless you really like Vypers the models are going to last.

>>96758588
That depends on what detachment you wanna play. Guardians are way better in their detachment, aspect warriors in theirs, etc

>>96758495
you moved the goalpost first when you posted something that is not a proper campaign book of old.

>>96758592
>spoiler
This entire thread is just one GW intern

>>96758540
Are both of their shoulder pads the same size now? I thought Phobos was suppose to have one big, one small. Wish GW could figure out what they want to do with Phobos, instead of constantly switching out their designs.

>>96758602
>Vypers
Are actually rumored to get an update next edition lol

>>96758594
I have a couple of really good Steel Legion scans, I can post them in about 12 hours when I get off work if you want.

>it's a *SETTING* not a story! Nothing should ever happen in it and nobody should ever be a named character!
you people have the most boring conception of 40k possible, I'm glad none of you are in charge of it.

>>96758611
t. NPC

>>96757637
Oh shit that's cool

>>96758577
But it says it's on the event horizon that's the point of no escape that even a child knows about. It's kind of stunning that somebody writing for what is theoretically at least science fiction wouldn't know something that well known.

>>96758611
As awful as some GW decisions are I've realized that if they listened entirely to their "fans" there would be way more dumb shit added to 40K than there already is.

i really hope the rumour of red terrorgetting a new model is true.

its always reminded me of a tyranid version of a scrab from oddworld, picrel.

>>96758609
That's what I meant. Eldar have pretty much an entirely modern range, and most of the models that are older are still extremely solid an unlikely to be updated.

>>96758608
Honestly not sure at this point myself either, but I enjoy the unique head sculpts and poses enough to pick them up. It would be interesting to see actual veteran Wolf Scouts brought into 40k proper.
>>96758555
nice trips but can you elaborate?
>>96758554
okay, how might you go about it? i'm not beyond some basic kitbashing but i've yet to mess with greenstuff beyond filling gaps
>>96758599
how so?

>>96758611
>Nothing should ever happen in it and nobody should ever be a named character!
You've got it backwards. Its a setting so everything should happen in it and named characters should die

>>96758611
Yeeeess I NEED Lord Bingusbongus to fight Sneedlywoop Zoplonger on the wartorn planet of Rapedungenes! SO HYPE

i just want everyone to know that the vorgh are actually just giant sized female tau.

>>96758605
>old good nu bad
fuck off, these are pretty much the same as previous GW books outside FW Imperial Armour

>>96758588
After decades we live in a world where all the Aspects are updated and in plastic. Aside from the FW one. Even Incubi got the treatment. Never thought I'd see the day. Now the only thing they need to update is probably the Vyper and maybe the Falcon/Wave Serpent/whatever but that kit holds up decently well still. The Vyper shows it's age but still isn't bad for how old it is. Most likely they'll do a single character like Yriel in plastic and that'll be it.

>>96758638
So Epic 1v1 wrastling match on de_dust bro (no cock grabbing though that's gay)

>>96758649
bitch you're responding to a post with the still unupdated dire avengers

>>96758635
>nice trips but can you elaborate?
nta but some anons here really don't like the cut down shin guards that make it look like they have shorts and sneakers.
they're good sculpts imo, they're probably gonna have their own dedicated 40k datasheet so you're probably better off sticking with that.
I just wish they had more gold filigree, I prefer my viking warriors more real life danish than tall versions of fantasy dwarf berserks.

>>96758660
Cringe self-insert hero fantasy

god i hate elves

god I love elves

What options do I have for getting bulk MK6 helmets to build some Primaris Crimson Fists?

god i hate dwarves

I have had a Mortarion laying around for 2 years now and I honestly don't think I'll ever get to the point where I feel I can make this miniature justice. I don't think I'll ever paint it.

>>96758681
So resell it

>>96758681
Just do it. I was the same way with my Heresy Daemon Fulgrim but I started

>>96758660
not very pedro kantor of you to constantly try to belittle ultramarines.
both chapters would show respect for each other.

>>96758677
Horus heresy kits

I just noticed only the banshee aspects have boob armor, everyone else has man pecks. What a disgrace.

Has there been a DEldar scan yet?

>>96758696
yes but I won't post it because I dislike deldarfags itt

>>96758692
Isn't there a betitted Dire Avenger torso in that kit?

>>96758704
Maybe DA have that I checked all the new aspects and none of them have boob armor like in >>96758455
This sucks.

>>96758710
For a fanbase who believes that women exist in fiction to be objectified, Warhammer players hate having sexy women minis in their wargame. Surely the most popular faction being grizzled, sharp jawed, men has nothing to do with this.

>>96758672
Yeah that describes the Ultramarines to a T.

>>96758696
https://files.catbox.moe/126av7.pdf

>>96758692
Even more, some plastic aspects doesnt have female heads. But anyway, you can kitbash them and use female guarsians heads

>>96758717
Glad SoB managed to get boob armor at least. Also it's not even about sexualization. Peck armor on females is retarded. I get the intent (the PL is a male) but it's still retarded when in their licensed games and art they all have boob armor.

>>96758724
Thanks anon

>>96758692
Rangers have boob armor

>>96758724
virus don't click

It's up
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qbrdkglz/belisarius-cawl-attempts-to-bridge-the-great-rift-in-a-new-black-library-book/

>>96758635
>unique head sculpts and poses
If the pads are separate (look like they're Scout sized), then the gloves arms would make funky conversion bits for a variety of MkX suits. Backpacks too.

>>96758692
Harlequins and corsairs have boobies

>>96758611
But yarrick is the exemple of a setting since he was a steel legion/armageddon guy.

>>96758610
Sure, I grabbed my scans from that big telegram leak a while ago, but too much can't hurt

>>96758635
>okay, how might you go about it?
Depends on what I'd be going for.
I would want to make them distinct from wolf scouts, so I guess I'd reinterpret the "wolves of morkai" unit, maybe a knife-centric unit based on reivers.

My first step would be to make a big reference document for Space Wolves bling and then establish the core identity of the unit, see what works, take what already exists and make up what's needed.

Could also take inspiration from picrel, I like that.

>>96758739
>book
I sleep

>>96758754
Aren’t you excited to see all your favorite Marv… I mean 40K characters in one novel????

>>96758692
Guardians are 50/50

>>96758728
Small plastic toy factory,please be patient

>>96758611
>it's a *SETTING* not a story! Nothing should ever happen in it and nobody should ever be a named character!
I kinda feel this way, which is why I like Tyranids and genestealer cults

>>96758728
The gender of the Phoenix Lord has nothing to do with it, Lhykhis is female but wears male armor. It's the aspect they represent, Howling Banshees rep Morai-Heg (who is the Crone, and female) thus they wear boobplate, not because Jain Zar is female, but the others represent various aspects of Khaine, who is male, so they have male armor.

>>96758345
fuck off retard

>>96758759
I only care about the plastic kits.
Rules I can either find online or make myself.
I've seen better stories and fluff on deviantart.

I find the pleas and motivations of angsty troubled teenagers to be more interesting than the pandering and virtue signaling of overgrown children.

>>96758775
He’s a manlet

>>96758773
Gtfo,mike

>>96758773
>Lhykhis is female
I will forever say he's a guy because of the armor.
I don't care about the official statement of the warhammer church.

To preface: I am fairly new to this hobby, and I cannot see any color at all. I am monochromatic colorblind, and I have my gf help me pick the colors with what I want to try and achieve.
That being said, I am posting these from my first one to my latest.
Hope you all enjoy!

>>96758517
second dissie
those things slap, bottos not so much

>>96758773
Sop Eldar are not only pathetic but also a tranny faction? Jesus...

The sword broke off this guy and I still need to find a replacement. He will be fixed though

>>96758828
>>96758847
fix your pics bro

>>96758828
>>96758847
Oi, cunt. We aren't on an Aussie board

>>96758847
Always nice to see someone from Australia in these threads

>>96758828
>>96758847
Anon rotate the pictures

>>96758828
1) Good teamwork on you and your gf, that's a pretty nice mini
2) I've never met anyone with this kind of vision, is there anything special that it brought you?

>>96758828
>>96758847
This happens when you post directly from your camera
You need to take the photo, trim it, then post it
Cute story, glad you have someone who supports your hobby

>>96758800
Heretic

Is this worth getting or is it all going to be refreshed/squatted next edition? Is this just stock clearance before something happens?

>>96758828
>gf
KILL YOURSELF REEEEEEEEE

>>96758868
Wtf posting gore???

I don't know why the fuck they are being upside down, will try to correct it
This is my first kitbash marine since I had extra parts and was able to make it look a bit deformed which was the plan
>>96758858 No, I've always seen in monochromatic my entire life. Shit sucks when I accidentally use a wrong paint than what I wanted on a miniature since I need someone else to tell me what I'm using

>>96758872
>Is this worth getting
Do you like the models?

>>96758868
I laughed

>>96758880
why are all your death guard blue

>>96758872
The question really is: do you want all of these miniatures? Y/N.

Bundle boxes, including battleforces and combat patrols are always to clear stock.

I think they will get refreshed but they might be different.

>>96758872
The Helion rules are 100% to clear stuck
For what reason, we do not know

>>96758880
Okay :C

>>96758885
Fuck you I know they are death guard green since that's what the primer is called

>>96758786
so are you shorty

This one will be a two part since I wanna show off the backside of this guy

Guys why are you hate Mike Brooks? His orks books are perfect. Lion novel is very good. Corsair novel is interesting. Only miss is Lelith novel.

Motherfucker why does my camera keep doing this shit on my phone lmao

>>96758923
>Corsair novel is interesting. Only miss is Lelith novel.
Those two were absolute garbage. His Alpha Legion book was boring. Ork and Lion were just okay. He's a shit writer.

>>96758924
trick is to crop it before posting, even just by a pixel

>>96758923
The Corsair book sucked. He pretty much just skimmed a wiki article about Eldar then wrote a shitty knock-off of Yriel, completely having missed the point of Yriel in the first place.

>>96758939
Realized that too late it seems
Have a fly boy

This one is one of my favorites because of the little nurglings.
Love those lil guys

Probably the longest mini I painted, coming out at 6 hours in a single session.
Rest of the miniatures though have taken around 4ish hours

I painted dickhead here after about a year since my grandmother passed. Didn't really have the motivation to paint more til recently, and this was the first guy I wanted to do 2 days ago. Lot of fun

>>96758441
It's not like Necrons are exactly suffering from a lack of books. I don't think Vashtorr has been featured in any books yet, has he? It's fine.

>>96758944
Can you explain? Because Baron Myrin Stormdawn is pretty likable character. Smart, funny, brave etc. All corsair character in the novel are different and interesting. And there are no boring characters

>>96758930
Harrowmaster and Alpharius novel are the only good books about Alpha legion. Are you kidding me?

And this is the latest mini I painted. I don't know what it is about the belly mouths but I seem to not be able to stop myself from including them in each model.
This is gonna be a two parter since I wish to show off the belly mouth

>>96758611
I would be more charitable towards this sort of person if it didn't overwhelmingly feel like they only hold this opinion because it's the "right" one on this website

>>96759008
Slapping basecoats down is not good it's the bare minimum and the monthly collage proves the generals average is higher for a fact.

And this will do it for now. Will probably update more as I continue to paint and finish models. I can see why a lot of people like this hobby, it's quite fun

>>96759007
It was boring garbage and it was considered so by a lot of people. Predictable and boring.

>>96759007
>What is Legion
>What is Shroud of Night
You fell for the Mike Brooks special

>>96758999
>Baron Myrin Stormdawn
Baronx not Baron

>>96759008
>unthinned paints
>sloppy application
>zero shading / highlights

The guy has an excuse, but come on, the paint jobs aren't great and most I've seen on this board are better.

>>96759029
Stormdawn is Baron. At the end of the novel he is prince.
Baronex is the title of exodite Saraan Skyhand.

>>96758923
>mike brooks
Who?

>>96759035
Anon, it's wip

>>96759039
One of the best BL authors.

>>96759038
>Baronex is the title of exodite Saraan Skyhand.
I was joking. I was honestly joking. Jesus Christ.

>>96759039
the latest target of seething xenofags angry at BL writers for not pandering to their headcanon

>>96759047
>BL
Why would you do that?

>>96759018
Stfu girlfriend having faggot

The next photos are the paints I used. Still trying to get use to a paintbrush.
>>96759035 I do thin all my paints, but perhaps I am thinning them too much? I am not the best painter in the world since I can't really see if something missed or not, but I am gonna try better and better for each model afterwards

>>96759028
Legion is kinda meh.
Shroud can't even get a sequel. It's bad and fotgetable.

They will be showing one model per week.

>>96759067
Harrowmaster also can't get a sequel. So much for being better.

>>96759061
get a hooker noob

>>96759069
This box is not gonna do well

>>96759096
Only because everyone was hoping for a 40k Quest after the AoS Cursed City.

>>96759069
Boring, it's just the generic white male knight character.
Don't worry, the rest of the cast won't be much better.

And this is the final photo. I will try to post more here as I progress, and my main goal is to have a very large death guard army with deamons and Mortarian.
If possible, please tell me how I could possibly improve my technique and learn highlights? Not entirely sure what highlights are desu

>>96759069
yo this is sick ngl

>>96759069
White Male Fighter's win again

>>96759096
I loved Silver Tower and Blackstone Fortress but Cursed City and now this one seem to be going for a more focused and less schizo distribution of models, which I don't like

>>96759111
>Boring, it's just the generic
Your mom

>>96759111
>Human Warrior
>Pajeeta Priestess
>Generic Elf Ranger
>Generic Dwarf
>Kurnothi Centaur
>Generic Wizard
>Female Ogor
This is the full cast vs. a Nurgle Plaguebearer Kill Team lead by a Mini Unclean One and a bunch of Pestigors (Nurgle Beastmen)

>>96758999
>Got angry when a Farseer told him to not jump the gun and attack a minor Slaaneshi cult, warning that the involvement could lead to future issues for the Craftworld.
Autarchs arrange war plans and attack strategies, not Admirals. Admirals chiefly deal with the PROTECTION fleets of Craftworlds when not being directed by an Autarch.
>Left the Craftworld in a huff because of said Farseer admonishing him for his hot-headedness
Immature and infantile. There's a legitimate process to stripping an Admiral or Autarch of their rank and banishing them if they go too overboard. Myrin not being subjected to this just makes him out to be a whiny bitch.
>Complains that Farseers hold too much power and rule Craftworlds
They don't. Again, Autarchs are the military leaders of the Craftworlds. Farseers do not command them, they advise them. Some Craftworlds, namely Biel Tan, don't even have leading Seer Councils. Even then Farseers are valued because Eldar are a dying species who need every advantage and premonition they can get, hence why Farseers are so valued.
>Supposedly a great Admiral widely respected on his Craftworld
He's repeatedly shown as a power-hungry moron who got outmatched in Naval combat by Orks and had to be saved by Craftworlders, only to insult and belittle said Craftworlders in turn. He has little care for those under his command, and even less for those not immediately around him.
This is the equivalent of writing a Space Marine Lieutenant who left his Chapter after the Chaplain gave him a stern talking to for disobeying orders to hunt for personal trophies. It's moronic.

>>96759008
There are maybe 10 people in this general that are actually good painters so not like that's a big achievement or anything.

>>96759008
I doubt that. My technique and application can be greatly improved, and because I can't see what I am putting down, it is a bit of a hassle.
From what I have seen others do, mine look horrible, however like all skill stuff I just gotta work on it. It's why I chose death guard, since they are meant to be gross looking, even with a bad paint job

>>96759112
Watch some Warhammer Painting Tutorials

>>96758868
matt varnish is fantastic. Ork/IG/Tyranids are the 3 factions that will treat their fodder like this

>>96759069
Makes sense they have more models to show off than Dark Eldar!

>>96759139
Hey I resemble this remark. I know I’m bad but at least I paint

>>96759139
Hello, “guy who paints his stuff to 1-2/10 on the /tg/ readiness scale” reporting in.

>>96759107
I can’t imagine a warhammer quest being exciting

>>96759139
>maybe 10 people in this general that are actually good painters
like who

>>96759131
>Italians being reduced to pajeets
Time is a flat circle

>>96759192
Being a CSM player in 8th and seeing the BSF reveal was insane

>>96759069
nice model
fuck off to the AoS general

>>96759200
Yeah and in another thread some anon was trying to convince people she was swedish.

>>96759139
I'll be honest, if there are 10 painters in this thread ranked from best to worse, I hope I am number 2 at least lmao
Also, this is gonna be my next guy. I enjoy a good belly mouth

>>96759204
Meh

>>96759213
Let me correct myself. Worse to best, 1 being the worst 10 being the best. I do not see myself being a 9, I see myself being a 2 lmao

>>96759218
It was the herald to the massive CSM revamp and showed us the first glimpses at plastic traitor guard and new-scale legionaries

i am the best painter in the thread but i just dont post my models.

>>96759236
I always loved your work Louise.

>>96759131
Pajeeta would not be a problem to me if she were pretty (she's not because gw)

>>96759240
Oh damn, that aged me
Fuck

>>96759256
Those were better days.

>>96759069
I love knights

Why are they throwing the Tau under the bus, too? Their weapons don't explode.

>>96759307
Tau have lots of experimental weapons that blow up all the time

>>96759307
Can’t insult Imperials in a book without also insulting someone else or Imperial fans get upset

>>96759322
not their plasma

>>96759307
We got a new ritual post spammer boys.

>>96757525 (OP)
War Walkers

>>96758020
Aren't paragon warsuits basically just dreadknights but they cover up the legs

>>96758053
Technically not actually Harlequins but I want White Seers, the anti-Chaos nerds who run the Black Library

>>96759329
Depends on how you're defining plasma. If it has to say 'plasma' on it to be a plasma weapon, then yes, T'au don't have exploding plasma weapons. They do have exploding ion weapons though, which are a subtype of plasma that fires more of a beam than the usual ball.

>>96758267
>iron warriors have honsou
>word bearers have erebus or kor phaeron
Poor Night Lords and Alpha Legion, doomed to have no good candidates for a character model

>>96759379
Haarken is basically a Night Lord character but cooler

>>96758630
i love oddworld so much, I should get>>96759136
>Immature and infantile. There's a legitimate process to stripping an Admiral or Autarch of their rank and banishing them if they go too overboard. Myrin not being subjected to this just makes him out to be a whiny bitch.
Did we read the and book? This is exactly why he didn't belong in the rigid Craftworld system and becomes a corsair. His entire development is about that. He's not whiny, he's individualistic in a collectivist society and that's why he ends up joining the corsairs.

>Complains that Farseers hold too much power and rule Craftworlds
they literally do and we see over and over them misinterpret their prophecies and her everyone killed. Its literally an actual in setting bad thing the farseers have so much pull, even Eldrad. Just because others have formal authority or political influence to resist them doesn't mean you can't be frustrated that on a Craftworld you aren't allowed to argue the Farseers are wrong, ever.

>>96758503
Will we ever get an Admech named character that isn't Cawl

>>96759385
He literally is a Night Lord who decided to stop being a cringe good-for-nothing and instead get shit done.

>>96759396
No.

>>96759400
>Get shit done
>Black Legion
You jest

>>96759197
I do not make the top ten. I do not thin my paints.

>>96759139
There are 25-50 tabletop quality painters and a handful of dudes who can paint NMM. I tried NMM once years ago and I'm lazy and I dont want to improve so I stopped.

>>96759236
I bow to you my sensei.

>>96759379
they just need a better "lord box" filled with bits similar to the absolutely dope Terminator Lord box. We know GW won't since they have a hard on for monopose faggotry

>>96758773
Phoenix Lords don't even have bodies anymore, they're literally just psychic star energy in armor

>>96759396
No, glupp shitto herald of the 9th company needs one first

>>96759371
Ion rifles don't explode. The operator has to expose the ammo to supercharge it in exchange for getting a deadly dose of radiation. Operating normally, Ion is safe.

>>96759396
Cawl is a gestalt of a 100 AdMech scientist brains in a centipede shaped jar. If a new AdMech characters got a name Cawl would immediately assimilate him or her

>>96759136
Wasnt Yriel both an autarch and an admiral for Iyanden? How does that work anyway

>>96758053
All harlequins need is a walker and a centerpiece. They have great vehicles, mounted and infantry. Bonus if you give them some form of semi elite infiltrate unit that's actually somehow cost effective. Corsairs work great for this though and that's what I use because desu Corsairs seem exactly the types the Harlequins would call on before Craftworlders. Nothing they would get wouldn't overlap with normal Eldar, so I suggest just modeling and making Harlequin wraithlords / Avatar of Khaine and write your own lore. Other than that Falcon chassis are easy to see why they would is them in addition their weaver vehicles and rangers are easy to understand why as well.

Solitaire is their epic hero, kind of the whole point of the masquerade is to remain anonymous.

>>96759200
Italians have never been white
Despite this they still made Rome thoughbeit

>>96759396
You'll get a female techpriest, happy?

>>96758267
Will CSM also get the same treatment as SM recently and get a named character model for each legion?

>>96759444
Yes.

>>96759392
holy shit I fucked the post up so bad

>>96759450
No

>>96759400
>Wants to get something done
>Joins the ultimate jobber force
Oof

>>96759450
Do they even have named characters besides the ones already in

>>96759439
Nta but the american race obsession is fucking cancer.
The worst part is the arbitrary categories.
>Let's put 2/3 of asia as the same
>Let's put the whole of western asia and the middle-east together
>let's put most of africa together
>let's put all of europe together

Not only is that system terrible in term of efficacity, but people always make exception when it's convenient, like with italians and irishmen.

That, is the race obsession, that is even pervasive into 40k because of the appeal to the race obsessed american market.

>>96759475
Please consult the map

>>96759460
Gyet em!
Hehehe (bzort)

>>96759475
European obsession is way better and more detailed. The colonial mind cannot comprehend.

Does anyone have muhrine Orange & Teal schemes?

>>96759392
>he's individualistic in a collectivist society
Eldar aren't collectivist. Unless someone is Lost in a Path, if they don't feel comfortable they can pick any of the other paths. In fact becoming a Warrior is viewed as a sombre and honored Path specifically because those Eldar who walk it are choosing to put the Craftworld above themselves. Even then if an Eldar doesn't feel any calling to the Paths they're free to leave as a Ranger, either until they get Lost on the Outcast Path or return and resume their life on the Craftworld.
The only time Eldar have been portrayed as truly collectivist is in a niche situation involving Twins, as only Twins can pilot Wraithknights.
And Farseers don't "rule" Craftworlds. They report their findings to one another to go over their visions before reporting to other central figures of the Craftworld to determine the best course of action. As I said, in some cases Farseers aren't even central leaders and solely act as advisors to Autarchs.
Again, Myrin is just a really shitty knockoff of Prince Yriel.

>>96759482
>picrel
To think this retarded classification persists almost intact today.

Be racist, I don't give a fuck, but if you're basing your beliefs on arbitrary categories pulled out someone's ass I cannot take you seriously.

>>96759450
Would be really cool if the edition end narrative wasn't just Huron Blackheart and had a character each for Red Corsairs, Alpha Legion, Night Lords, Iron Warriors, and Word Bearers. Could even do them all as having a different rival to set up a bunch of galactic conflicts.

>>96759485
I'm not gonna ask why you have this or where you found this, but thank you for showing a better classification.

>>96759450
I wouldn't mind this. I don't mind Epic Heroes unlike most of this general. Its never mutually exclusive with your dudes except maybe primarchs. A NL and AL character could be cool, just make them mutually exclusive with other side characters. The mono legions already have Kharne, Typhus, Ahriman, and luscious Lucius who are all better than average BL characters. Unfortunately the best NL character was in the HH and he's dead and AL all remain anonymous.

That just leaves Iron Warriors but I would bet a Combat Patrol they will get a release as as their own codex one day with maybe dark mech in there. You may hate it, but Perterabo has SO MUCH POTENTIAL to be a cool fucking model.

>>96759396
Why, Hermiatus the Second Son!

>>96759475
It's a just a way of the rich to fuck up them like cattle, by creating arbitrary never ending division amongst the american public.

>>96759495
they literally have a path called the path of the outcast because do many people feel lost and aliensted by the path system. not to mention they basically have a lowkey caste system with ancient engrams and farseers being separate and above regular eldar.

>>96759396
There's a few minor ones, like the dude from Blackstone Fortress. Or the HH Mechanicum characters

>>96759514
Divide and conquer.

>>96759471
>world eaters: kossolax
>deathguard: vorx
>emperor's children: eidolon
>alpha legion: solomon akurra
>iron warriors: honsou
>word bearers: kor phaeron or erebus
>black legion: khayon
>night lords: talos except he fucking died, so i guess its decimus
>thousand sons: khayon again lol

>>96759475
>american race obsession
>>96759485
>European obsession
It's actually germanoid autism.

>>96759518
anyone can become a farseer if they really wanted to do though. which might be the actual problem with how typical craftworlds are run since farseers also pick out the eldar who become autarchs

>>96759495
Not the anon you are talking to but you just described a collectivist society. Just because there are individual freedoms doesn't mean it isn't collectivist. Also you don't have to "rule" a society to have massive and potentially harmful influence. America is nominally a democratic state separate from the church and yet religious leaders still have enormous pull at the white house and everyone has to constantly virtue signal how much they love God (including dema like Biden). Ultimately someone doesn't just say "I want to walk the path of being president or king or Admiral" on a Craftworld, their government is basically a seniorocracy with the oldest and most psychically gifted having, on average, the most political influence. Someone who wanted to fight naval battles would walk its associated path regardless of how much they cared about the Craftworld.

>>96759526
he's a generic technoarcheologist in 40k, at that point might as well count Larsen van der Grauss from the Rogue Traders kit

>>96759518
>they literally have a path called the path of the outcast because do many people feel lost and aliensted by the path system.
Yeah anon, I mentioned that. And if an Outcast wants to rejoin Craftworld life they can do so without issue, just like they can leave.
And no, they don't have a Caste system. Seers often work in seclusion with the Crystal Domes because they're literally communing with the crystalized seers of the past. Furthermore any Eldar can go on the Path of the Seer regardless of their past, hell Warlocks are specifically Seers who were once Warriors. Being a Seer does not automatically put your above other Eldar in status, and Farseers are respected because they're Seers who have had significant and long-standing experience, just as Autarchs are respected for having mastered several Aspects while being a Warrior.

>>96759552
>since farseers also pick out the eldar who become autarchs
They don't pick out Autarchs, Autarchs are specifically the Path Of Command, which is (in usual Craftworlds) walked by learning from numerous Aspect Shrines as a Warrior without becoming an Exarch.

>>96759514
Brown hands stained with tears typed this post

>>96759526
This guy is such a cool sculpt

>>96759565
He was a named character in 8e before becoming generic. Same for the other minis in BSF

>>96759585
I didn't know that, he is a cool sculpt indeed, almost all tech-priests are a treat

>>96759567
>young talented military leader constantly held back from killing chaos by pussy ass farseers
I would join the corsairs too. You realize that the Eldar are written specifically to be flawed right? They aren't objectively good at everything. Its 40k, everything is complaining. The corsairs are where anti social talented people go because Eldar society doesn't like you if you don't hero worship the oldfags and the novel does a good job of showing that.

I'm not saying the Path system isn't good for most Eldar, but there are people who it doesn't work for and that's what the novel shows. Why would a naval officer walk the path of the Outcast? That makes no sense, giving up your career and becoming a social pariah because you disagree with the Farseers of your community isn't freedom. Of course you will always be welcomed back, as long as you conform to societal norms surrounding jerking off oldfags/ancestors/psychic presience.

We not the Farseers can be wrong because we see it in almost every Eldar story, but its taboo to say so. Even in Bieltan.

>>96759609
>Can be
Always are in every 40K story

>>96759514
t. knower

>>96759571
The way its written, its like a candidate thing, where certain Eldar are chosen to walk the Path of Command, and then they go through the various shrines. The ritual where autarchs get a relic weapon from shrines is also a test to make sure they can be an autarch. Its kind of vague, and seems inconsistent honestly.

Like is it possible to just casually become an autarch, like you become an aspect warrior a few times over centuries and someone notices you'd make a good autarch? Do you then go back and pick up relic weapons from the previous shrines you were at? Its also interesting because autarchs aren't inherently lost on the Path of Command like farseers are on their path, though they can be.

>>96759609
>You realize that the Eldar are written specifically to be flawed right?
careful, you are going to make the resident eldarfags very upset

A good thread for once? Something ain't right...

>>96759627
Everyone is flawed! That's the point of 40k! I'm an eldarfag! CWE always think they know better even when they don't, which is a good thing and adds flavor to the setting and keeps a possibly 'too good' faction from being boring and never having conflicts that result in all out, mind blowing war.

>>96759627
All Eldar should be flawed. They're more fun that way.

>>96759630
don't jinx it

>>96759539
its unfortunate there aren't any recently prominent thousand sons characters who aren't ahriman, what's with that

>>96759648
Thousand Sons were always the smallest legion, but Ahriman has had a few apprentices over the years and he killed the pyromancer dude in a sorcerer duel. At the end of the day he is THE sorcerer so anyone else is going to be either his student or in conflict with him. He's older than Magnus is. They are quite literally just too few in number to have a lot of named characters, even more so because 95% of them were dusted to prevent mutation.

>>96759609
>>young talented military leader constantly held back from killing chaos by pussy ass farseers
It wasn't 'constantly'. The Farseer told him to not poke the Chaos cult that wasn't aware that the Craftworld was even there, because why potentially get Eldar killed or bring unwanted attention towards the Craftworld, and the retard sperged out over it because he legitimately doesn't care about the lives of other Eldar. It flat out says so in the book during a battle when he has a power trip over having become a higher commander. He's an immature gloryhound, and instead of stopping to think over his actions he got pissy and left. The Craftworld didn't even force him out or punish him for his thoughts, he left entirely on his own.

>>96759648
they should bring back the team rocket sorcerer from the old space wolf books

>>96759648
Thousand sons and tzeentch as a whole are creatively bankrupt. Mainly because the two dont mesh well with each other and thousand sons arent really a chaostic warband.

>>96759669
>Thousand Sons were always the smallest legion
Not true. EC were almost wiped by the blight and had tini tiny numbers back in the day.

>>96759648
>even the recent campaign has a thousand sons sorcerer who is an ahriman apprentice, and also has a daemonhost that's ahriman's fleshpuppet
Oops all Ahriman

>>96759671
Yes, exactly like a narcissistic pirate who wants nothing but battle and glory? HMMMM.

The craftworlds don't have the Path of the Glorious Pirate Admiral. Thats literally the point. You are mad at the pirate character being pompous and self aggrandizing. He left to chase glory because he didn't care about why he was fighting, he did it for love of the game.

>>96759679
I agree. Completely ignoring the lore and history of it, I always found it a bit annoying that the dedicated Tzeentch legion is conceptually a weird gimmick faction that feels like it should be a codex side mention army.

>>96759687
The EC have working gene seed theoretically and can repopulate. Tsons don't make new marines, they are immortal sorcerers who repair their dusty boys forever. Its stated in a few places, but they can't make more and rarely take in new recruits. That's why they end up in other warbands a lot.

>>96759621
Only eldar himself decide whether he can become a autarch or get lost on one of the paths. Every path, both military and civilian, is a challenge

>>96759679
Unironically it’s Rubrics that are the issue, they were a lot more Chaosy in Realm of Chaos

>>96759747
what's wrong with Rubrics?

>>96759621
imagine being an autarch, and taking a break to be a baker, and getting lost on that path. and then the craftworld gets invaded and you're stuck as a shitty guardian instead of an autarch

>>96759721
>working geneseed
Are you sure? Aren't most new csm that arent turncoats made with stolen geneseed? Csm geneseed gets mutated by chaos. I remember reading about an apothecary having to fight a mutated progenoid gland as he was trying to harvest it.

>>96759747
Exactly
>>96759759
NTA but they are by design samey, boring, and bereft of character. They can't have mutations or special equipment or differentiating details.

>>96759814
Based tube head

when will EC and WE get unique terminators

Played DLC against my friend's Iron Hands and got absolutely rinsed. Really feels like this detachment is just lacking at least one defensive strat. Still kind of fun to play though.

>>96759702
My issue isn't that he's a pirate, it's that he's a shitty knock-off of Yriel, the major Corsair character whose hot-headed nature led to friction with his Craftworld that culminated in him leaving to become a Corsair despite having been a prominent and significant military leader for his people.

do you guys try to make lists based on the in-universe organizational charts?
ten russes in a list is kind of overkill, and i have a hard time making seven work, but only three in a platoon seems so sad

>>96759814
they look better than these lead boogers

>>96759814
when GW added mutations and character back to Death Guard in 8e, and there are people still whining about it.

There's design space to do mutated tzeench marines, but Rubrics are fine. The problem is GW refusing to add more Rubric units and only focusing in the fuckign magic birdmen

>>96759506
>Unfortunately the best NL character was in the HH and he's dead
If you're referring to Sevatar, you will be laughed at.

>>96759875
I dont get this complaint on the tzaangors, you just had them try to experiement with the sekehtars and no one cared for that because its not marines.
People dont want innovation they just want their clean marines.

>>96759875
>There's design space to do mutated tzeench marines, but Rubrics are fine. The problem is GW refusing to add more Rubric
TS have a entire pit full of mutated marines and they give us giant robots instead

>>96759518
>they literally have a path called the path of the outcast
"Path of the Outcast" is just a colloquial way of referring to the tendency for youngsters to fuck off from the craftworld and blow off steam as rogues and reavers, it's not an actual Path.

>>96759897
people hate tzaangors because they're buying a marine army and half their releases are wasted on recycled AoS birdmen, how is that hard to grasp?
Even the robots they just released are robot birdmen

>>96759875
>when GW added mutations and character back to Death Guard in 8e, and there are people still whining about it.
Well I whined about it because 1. I think it was done a bit poorly and 2. It seemed to be done at the cost of cutting down on gore

>>96759898
lol they arent even "giant"
if they were dreadnought sized maybe better but they are dinky af

>>96759846
To be fair an ad hoc battlegroup composed of multiple units from different Regiments is a fluffy way to run a list and has real life examples of similar things too. It's not always possible or desirable to deploy in full company strength.

>>96759759
Their existence and lore means we’ll never get non-rubric marine units in TS, the only fleshy stuff we’ll get is Tzangors, which funnily enough, were in the TS army lineup before Rubrics ever existed.

>>96759914
well here's the thing, I wouldn't care for the marine portiion of the army. I'd like my chaos army to have uh....some actual chaos in it?

Hey guys any small advice? I got my Deldar battleforce today and the box arrived with some noticeable damage. When i opened up I saw that some pieces were broken off the sprue and there was even a broken piece of plastic straight up through the box. There's also some noticeable spiky bits here and there bent and such.

Its not massive, but it is kind of annoying. Should I do anything about it - and if yes, what? or just suck it up and eat it?

>>96759875
The problem with the TSons is that GW pretty much wrote themselves into a corner with them by making them 99% dust and reanimated armor.
I guess they could do some more sorcerer stuff where they have visible mutations who are more elite. I dunno make them into melee sorcerers whose fluff is about how they use their psychic power to augment their physical strengths.

They could make some mutated horrors as well, like they are sorcerers who have failed some ritual and then turned into horrible monsters because Tzeentch finds it funny.

>>96759953
Email GW and see if they’ll send you a replacement sprue.

I’ve gotten replacement kits before for broken parts

>>96759939
Nobody cares about what you want though

>>96759965
and the setting suffers for it immensely!

>>96759965
Why do people make these replies in the middle of a conversation of a bunch of people discussing with each other what they want? Might as well reply to every person in the damn conversation if you're gonna say that.

>>96759921
it just feels odd to be building an ad hoc battlegroup since they're going to be together on the shelf in perpetuity
the only other thing i got is they started out as full strength but now these are the guys left on this particular battle

>>96759975
to rile retards like (You) up and he obviously succeded

>>96759975
>talking about the appeal of a MARINE army
>hurr but I don wan MARINES in my MARINE army
>wtf why are people calling me a retard???

>>96759953
Complain to your storefront then if they ignore you try GW, they're good with this kind of thing

>>96759963
where the fuck are the sorcerer dreads that's all im asking for

>>96757554
>realistic rot in Death Guard
That makes me wonder, has anyone tried to cover a DG mini in chia pet stuff, then letting it rot in the wild for a couple of months? Would that get realistic results?

>>96759985
I wouldn't label confusion as "riling up"...

>>96759991
Its not entirely a marine army, its a chaos marine army. One where its chaos elements are rather quite lacking.

>>96759995
They’re writing dreads out of Chaos lore

>>96760009
which is retarded, FUCK HELBRUTES

>>96760008
>chaos is when tentacles and birdmen

>>96759953
gw customer support is pretty good though i don't know if they'll cover package damage
worth a shot

The Imperialization of chaos and its consequences...

>>96760014
>>chaos is when tentacles
Kinda!

Just how useful are the deathwatch to the imperium? What can they do that normal space marines can’t?

>>96760014
body horror is in fact one way to display chaos, yes.

Chaos is when your uniform block of identical automata shoot their boltguns

>>96760013
Same with them too.