Thread 96799668

Pellaeon-class Edition

>>96735511

A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.

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Thread Question: Tell me about your GAMES. Even if its just some random casual game, how did it go? Does the Pellaeon-class feature in it?

Starting a new campaign, combining Star Wars and Andromeda. Massive ancient ship that got trapped in a black hole's time dilation finally gets free, centuries have passed but from the perspective of the people inside it's been no time at all.

>>96799668 (OP)
Eternal GMing, currently easing my current autsim 28ABY start campaign into the Otherspace Adventures, player availability has made it a bit of a pain however so I'm currently running a prequel (relative to the main game) game with the players that are available using the the Minos-Mestra adventure from the Rancor Pit. Sounds confusing but it's been a good time.
I'm the same anon that made these
>>96794659
>>96794665
and posted this question
>>96794730

you know, I think more people need to realise that dooku was not a good man

his legacy is that of failure, his movement was crushed, his bloodline wiped out, his castle looted and his apprentice hates him
all he has was a bunch of separatist holdout retards who didn't understand that he was evil and can't seperate the separatist movement from him

>>96798442
Nope, it's my LGS terrain
I'm pretty sure the buildings are official for Infinity.

What if Israel deployed B1 battle droids and Droideka into Gaza. How fucked will Gaza be?

>>96800579
>Pod Racing
I don't know if it can be adapted to D6, because i've never played that one, but i have my own D20 Chase System that i use for a lot of D20 games (Saga, E20, Starfinder, etc.) that can also be used for racing. Here's how i do Speederbike chases and Pod Racing and stuff..

>Determine the length of the track as a number of Chase Squares (A square about 30ftx30ft for the purposes of effects)
>As the race begins, everyone involved rolls Piloting. For every multiple of 5, they go 1 Chase Square forward. (So, a 19 goes 3 squares, a 21 goes 4 squares, a 3 goes no-where. etc.) Criticals go 1 space further than their roll (E.G. a player with +7 to their Piloting who rolls a critical goes 5 spaces, then an extra 1 for 6 spaces total.
>Initiative is deterimined by who was out front at the beginning of the round.
>You can use ranged attacks against anyone in the same square or 1 square in front or behind you.
>You can use Melee attacks against anyone in the same square.
>Whoever is in first at the beginning of the round rolls a straight 1d4 to determine what obstacles are in his square before he rolls piloting, on a 4 there is. Mark these down in these squares as other racers will hit these obstacles as well if they move through it.

>Example obstacles:
>Traffic Intersection: Make a check (DIF 15) or lose your next turn as you are completely shunted out of the chase and are forced to take a turn to recouperate
>Dangerous obstacle: Make a check (DIF 14), if failed, then they take damage and their turns movement is reduced by -1 this turn (To a minimum of 0)
>Henchmen Trick: All heroes travelling through the space are attacked by villains henchmen who are covering their boss. If they are hit, they take damage and and their speed is recuded by -1 (To a minimum of 0)
>Helpful boost: Make a check (DIF 15) On a success, increase the space they move by +1, and an additional +1 for every 5 points over 15 that they scored on the check.

>>96800630
>His bloodline wiped out
Isn't Zsinj supposed to be his cousin or something? I seem to remember one book stating him being the current Duke of Serenno by Endor, through his father being the Son of Dooku's uncle or something like that.

>>96800630
>>96804726
Ackshually Dooku had a brother and a nephew in Legends, featured in Agent of the Empire - Hard Target in which a Serenno noble schemes to replace Dooku's brother as ruler of Serenno. Zsinj just took it over using either his vile jew sorcery or the Iron Fist.
Hard Target has some great spy movie vibes, though I remember Iron Eclipse being kind of ass.
imo Ostrander is much better at writing underworld or glowie kind of characters than Jedi or other good guys.

>>96802954
...sweet Jesus fuck, I had no idea the Infinity buildings were so perfect for star wars. Like, slap on some aurebesh and you're in a seedy Corudcsnt industrial district.

>>96800579
In D6 vehicles generally have two listed speeds. One its base speed and the second its max speed which defines how much distance it covers.
They can move at 4 speeds.
cautious: 1/2 base
cruise: base speed
high: 2x base speed
all out: max speed
The trade off between the higher speeds is that the player has to roll piloting against varying terrain difficulty values (easy terrain hard terrain etc) that increase in value by how fast of a speed you are going.
(Turns are 5secs so divide a vehicles kph by .72 to determine how many meters it moves a turn)
Likewise vehicles generally have a maneuver code you can add to the piloting skill which can also be used for things like getting around sharp turns or avoiding notable obstacles.
Failing a vehicle piloting roll has you consult a table of values which depending on the degree of failure can result in things like not moving the full value of your movement/speed or crashing your vehicle and taking damage

So in the case of running a podrace, what you are probably going to want to do is create a track with an explicit length. Then define things like terrain difficulty for the track at various parts and maybe some notable obstacles/hard turns that you would describe to the players, things like going through a cave or canyon or something.
The players primarily would be deciding what speed they are willing to risk going through these terrains and obstacles. And dependent on their speed and degree of success/failure you determine how much distance they covered, or alternatively, whether they exploded and died.
Initiative is determined by perception but in the case of choosing a winner when two players cross a finish line in one turn, I’d recommend determining who won by who got farther past the line rather than who happened to pass first by initiative.

It makes sense that all the major criminal organizations would use Separatist surplus, no?
>already a criminal organization, no need to worry about imperial law banning it
>industrial bases were in the mid and outer rim, not concentrated in the heavily policed core like republic and imperial equipment
>battle droids could buff out security, likely not used for long range enforcement due to legal issues and the droids' lack of creativity
>could scale all the way up to smaller frigates for forced debt collection on entire communities

apparently bob iger didn't want TCW S7 but kathleen kennedy did and pushed against him for it

now, I don't like TCW S7 but are you ready to APOLOGIZE?

>>96804094
Their children would likely be safer

>>96805768
No, because it is fake and gay.
>ZOMG GUYS, BOB IGER IS THE TRUE VILLAIN AND EVERYTHING IS HIS DOING, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T GREENLIGHT SOMEHOW KYLO REN RETURNED! ARE YOU ANGRY AT BOB IGER YET? KATHY WAS /OURGAL/ ALL ALONG! BELIEVE ALL WOMEN!
Imagine simping for Kennedy, who not only cancelled Clone Wars in the first place, but shut down Lucasarts, cancelled 1313, and is responsible for greatest hits such as Acolyte, Obi-Wan Kenobi, hiring Rian Johnson and giving him full creative freedom, and much more.

>>96806124
kylo ren returned is lame and gay and just the same shit as people wanting mace windu back

>>96805768
I think that TCW S7 was the peak of nucanon which isn't particluarly high so Iger can suck a fat nut.

>>96807674
When I say peak of nucanon, I meant excluding Andor, which is autopeak

>>96807674
S7 sucks

>>96805757
It makes sense, but also keep in mind that the SW galaxy is so awash in milsurp that the Rebels were able to build a significant fleet out of it (wherever they weren't repurposing civilian ships or stealing military ones). Planetary defense forces exist and so do corporate security. Sure, vastly successful pirates could have a seppie Recusant...but they could just as easily have a couple of refit Dreadnoughts. You could make the argument that using seppie ships might draw a harder and/or faster response from the Empire due to the symbolism, but honestly once you start talking capital ships youre probably high on the shitlist for the local sector fleet regardless.

>>96807806
I can understand your opinion.
You are a fag.

>>96807930
nah it just sucks

>>96807927
Yeah that's a good point. Were planetary / system defense forces allowed to exist under the Empire? The impression I got from Andor, and other media in general is that most were forced out of service

>>96807927
It actually makes me wonder about what the most common source of milsurp ships would be:

1. Ships made to be sold to a planetary defense force seems the easy pick for top slot. Until about 20 years ago, there was no vast galaxy-wide fleet to rely on, each planet was on their own. This means that theres a lot of demand, but when planets fall on hard economic times, big fancy ships with high operating costs make for a good, quick injection of cash and annual savings, enough so thay you might not do the hardest background check on the buyer. May be in danger of falling off thr top by the time the GCW comes around due to the Imperial Navy.
2. CIS milsurp. Was a galaxy-spanning organization that went bust nearly overnight and the Empire sent years hunting down the remnants. Makes sense that a LOT of captains and their minimal organic crew either pawned off their ships to go into hiding or were just easy prey for pirates with the fleet scattered. Only question is how hard the Empire go after it as a matter of principle.
3. Imperial milsurp. Despite only being 20 years old, the Navy has been developing and innovating new ships like crazy, which means that older or cheaper versions get exported. Easiest example is a starfighter, namingly the Mining Guild TIE, but I'm pretty sure there are other support ships that have been sold, licensed, or otherwise made available to those deemed sufficiently loyal.
4. Republic milsurp. I put this lowest because unlike CIS hardware, the Empire had control of virtually all the Republic hardware out there. Ironically, the symbolism of ships from the Republic is actually more damaging than ships from the CIS, and its not surprising that most of what we see of these ships in the years following RotS is them being torn apart for scrap. They said we know that the Empire wasn't able to get all of it; that's why the Alliance has Y-wings.
5. Archeotech. Just weird histotic shit lying around.

What else is there that I'm missing?

>>96808162
I think they were slowly phasing them out, but that's not a fast process. Its a moot point anyways: if the planet follows the will of the local Imperial governor, theres no need to disarm it with any alacrity. If not, it doesn't have a chance against the Imperial Navy.

>>96807927
Doesn't the Dreadnought need an absolutely ridiculously huge crew? Recusant could be run just fine with a skeleton crew, since the ship is controlled by its own droid-brain. Unfortunately the droid-brain likely has a personality of a homicidal maniac that will try to ram the ship at the nearest enemy while screaming "KILLFRENZY!" on loop on open comms, but you take the good with the bad.

>>96807927
It actually makes me wonder about what the most common source of milsurp ships would be.

1. Ships made to be sold to a planetary defense force seems the easy pick for top slot. Until about 20 years ago, there was no vast galaxy-wide fleet to rely on, each planet was on their own. This means that theres a lot of demand, but when planets fall on hard economic times, big fancy ships with high operating costs make for a good, quick injection of cash and annual savings. Enough so thay you might not do the hardest background check on the buyer. May be in danger of falling off the top by the time the GCW comes around due to the Imperial Navy.
2. CIS milsurp. Was a galaxy-spanning organization that went bust nearly overnight and the Empire spent years hunting down the remnants. Makes sense that a LOT of captains and their minimal organic crew either pawned off their ships to go into hiding or were just easy prey for pirates with the fleet scattered. Only question is how hard the Empire goes after it as a matter of principle.
3. Imperial milsurp. Despite only being 20 years old, the Navy has been developing and innovating new ships like crazy which means that older or cheaper versions get exported. Easiest example is a starfighter, namely the Mining Guild TIE, but I'm pretty sure there are other support ships that have been sold, licensed, or otherwise made available to those deemed sufficiently loyal.
4. Republic milsurp. I put this lowest because unlike CIS hardware, the Empire had control of virtually all the Republic hardware out there. Ironically, the symbolism of ships from the Republic is actually more damaging than ships from the CIS and its not surprising that most of what we see of these ships in the years following RotS is them being torn apart for scrap. That said, we know that the Empire wasn't able to get all of it; that's why the Alliance has Y-wings.
5. Archeotech. Just weird historic shit lying around.

What else is there that I'm missing?

>>96808060
Aww, did it not enough asajj for you to coom over?

>>96808286
no, it's writing just sucked

you cannot tell me a season where 1/3 of its episodes are absolute dogshit is "good"

>>96808226
To run at optimal performance, yes. But if you're a pirate, you probably dont give a shit because you're not looking to go toe-to-toe with anyone who can actually fight back. Having the shields at 20% of max and only half the batteries operational isn't a problem when you're shaking down a mom and pop refueling station who only have a lone patrol boat and a light of Z-95s for defense.

>>96808266
there were also lots of paramilitary-type gear built for sale to private parties during the old republic; lots of corporations had their own warships, armed freighters were extremely common, as were mercenaries with just about anything. Hell, random dudes owning starfighters was by no means uncommon. So I suppose similar to PDF stuff, but already out there in circulation well outside of government view.

Another possibility was various non-republic polities that had their own militaries joining the republic and selling off surplus in a post-war drawdown, or just selling off their old gear to fund the purchase of newer gear from republic suppliers.

>>96808500
I imagine it would be like the real world. The core Republic has the largest industrial base and produces most of the milsup in the galaxy. Outer rim shitholes and mid rim backwaters rely on that equipment, while some of the core+mid rim junior partners to the Republic (like Naboo) have enough local industry to have their own milsup. Like how western Europe has its own stuff while most other US allies just use old US stuff

>>96808266
>>96808500
>>96808525
something I'd imagine would be fairly common would be licensed production of various older model core equipment in the outer and mid rim. Think stuff like how mexico kept making the old model beetles for decades after VW stopped, chinese G88s and SKSs, or a hundred other examples. all sorts of otherwise obscure and rare shit can pop up this way
Plus, of course, knockoffs and clones

>>96808616
What would be the common PDF ships? I know we have stuff like the Firespray patrol boat and Gozanti, but are there other things in that weight class that aren't well known?

>>96808680
go grab the old WEG Pirates and Privateers, it is absolutely chock full of the kind of patrol boats that are ubiquitous with PDFs
As for bigger stuff, CR-90s and DP-20s are extremely common at the small end, and Dreadnoughts are *the* PDF heavy ship.
There is kind of a shortage of preexisting stuff in the medium size range, though, but that's really just more fertile ground for homebrew

>>96808500
Yeah, I was lumping those in with the PDF stuff since I imagine it's the same designs and whatnot.

>Another possibility was various non-republic polities that had their own militaries joining the republic and selling off surplus in a post-war drawdown, or just selling off their old gear to fund the purchase of newer gear from republic suppliers.
I cant think of any planets that recently joined that had their own unique kind of equipment save the Mon Cals and, well, we know where all THOSE ended up.

>>96808525
Naboo is a good one, but I didnt get the impression that Nubia and the other companies that made their ships made much more than the fighters and the queen's personal starship. I don't think they had much of a navy to speak of. Luxury of living in a stable part of the galaxy that bit them in the ass when the Trade Federation rolled up with a full-blown fleet.

>>96808737
>I cant think of any planets that recently joined that had their own unique kind of equipment
it shows up in the background of some of the ships in WEG supplements, the Discril-class Cruiser* is the first to come to mind

*actually corvette sized

>>96806124
Personally, I think they both suck, for distinct reasons, and I hope Iger sticks around long enough for his bad decisions to come home to roost so those who fete him as a modern-day media business genius can suddenly evaporate and insist that they always saw this coming and provide detailed post mortems of why this happened.

>>96809555
It's not like Iger will be so sad once he retires full of infinite money anyway, doesn't matter what people think.

>>96804685
>>96805569
Thank you brotatos, I'm relatively new to running D6 (before this I was running a goofy homebrew setting with shit pulled from my ass and Dwarf Fortress using BFRPG with the same group) and really only have hangups on how to do specific things like this so it's much appreciated, especially >>96805569

>>96805337
Fuck, you're right.
Almost all of their terrain pieces look like they'd fit right in.

And I thought infinity was just about minis with delicious curves in skintight spacesuits.

>>96805337
what scale is infinity?

>>96810920
28 mm, but you'd have to place a few Legion stormies on the terrain to see if that really works.

But the terrain pieces do look quite nice. Some(?) appear to have prints on them, so they might be ready out of the box?

>>96811031
i've seen this table layout a bunch

would make a good board for a 28mm star wars skirmish game which I wanna make but i'm really lazy

>>96812785
>forgets image

have the setting be the coruscant underworld or nar shadaa or something

>>96805337
Infinity terrain works great for star wars cities
In picrel, the table was meant to portray the Upper City of Taris

>>96805337
>>96812805
>>96812825
What kind of dumbass marketing psyop is this? No your faggoty tranime terrain is not a perfect fit for Star Wars, and in an age of 3D printers where there are literally hundreds of terrain sets out there explicitly designed with Star Wars in mind they're not even useful as a "there's no better alternative" substitute because there are *countless* better alternatives.

Have some fucking self-respect.

>>96813072
I dont own a 3d printer

>>96813072
>NOOOO, in a galaxy with a million inhabitated planets with totally different cultures, species and architectures there can't be cyberpunk buildings!
Anon, you can use literally EVERY tabletop terrain from medieval over WW2 up to sci-fi for Star Wars, as long as you don't use it for any better known planet.
Wooden huts and palm trees or a cyberpunk city with lots of neon light obviously look dumb when you play the battle of Geonosis, but not when you play the battle of random planet xyz.

>>96813104
One of your gaming buddies will. You do have actual IRL gaming buddies, right anon?
>>96813224
>>96813945
>NOOOO, in a galaxy with a million inhabitated planets with totally different cultures, species and architectures there can't be cyberpunk buildings!
This is factually true. Literally the whole point of Star Wars visually is "used future" or "shining past" derived from a recognisable historical style. Cyberpunk is innately futuristic in style, futuristic from a *modern* perspective, it's fundamentally incompatible. Now some massive cumgargler is going to step forward and say "Nar Shadaa" or "Coruscant Underworld", but neither of those is cyberpunk you delusional troons, it's grimy 70's neon red light district vibes. It's meant to imply something seedy and run down, not shiny and chrome.

Just fucking kill yourselves and save the rest of us the headache of knowing you're wasting air.

>>96815314
>it's grimy 70's neon red light district vibes
And that's exactly what cyberpunk was based on, because there was functionally little difference in visions of the future from the '60s to the '90s. Only with the advent of rounder cars and the Silicon Valley boom did a smoother, sleeker, cleaner vision of the future come about. The "used future" look is definitively cyberpunk, because cyberpunk was conceived as part of the cassette future era.

>>96808266
The Battlefront 2 campaign had a corporation using old clone wars era gear. I also like the idea of retired clones repping their old gear. Many likely became mercenaries post war, but would be given some leeway by the empire.

>>96815314
>futuristic from a *modern* perspective
What is Kamino.

>>96815314
>>96813072
Post minis

>>96799668 (OP)
How is the new edition of legion? The imperial starter box looks tempting as a painting project but I don't really enjoy painting tabletop miniatures unless they're gonna get used

>>96815314
>"Nar Shadaa" or "Coruscant Underworld"
>neither of those is cyberpunk

>>96819686
Legion is a ton of fun, and is in highly active development. For example, we got a free narrative mode a few weeks ago. If you want to play around with painting, I also suggest taking a look at the /your dudes/ kits that recently came out.
>How is it
I suppose I'll compare it to 40k, as it is the big one.
Legion is a small-scale wargame with alternating activations. It is pretty quick to play due to several factors - universal keywords, movement templates and a unified roll to hit/wound. There are also almost no gotchas in this game, assuming you know the game fairly well.
>Balance
As of now, separatists and rebels are very strong. Republic, Empire and Shadow collective are weaker, but not unplayable.
>Compared to first edition
Imo, it is better. While the game is a little bit less complex in terms of tactics, this change came due to the elimination of unwinnable games due to extreme skew lists tailored towards specific objectives. Also, outside of bunker assault, you actually play on the whole board now. Bidding is also gone. The one thing 1.0 had over 2.6 is better objective variety - but this is also due to change, as they've already announced extra mission packs.

Anything in particular you'd like to ask about, Anon?

>>96820288
That all sounds good to me so far, I know I could easily twist the arms of a couple of my group to try it out since they still love the setting
could you tell me more about what you mean by those /yourdudes/ kits? Are they like extra options/bits to customize your list with or special units to fluff them up or something?

>>96820463
>/yoududes/
Basically, they are kits that let you build your own characters to lead your army. They generally come with a ton of extra bits, and let you choose the role of the character. Melee, shooting, different kinds of support, etc.
>Empire - imperial agent and officer
>Rebels - rebel agent and officer
>CIS - Super tactical droids
>Republic - jedi knight and master
Picrel is something the developers posted as examples of how you can build the Empire characters

>>96820550
Oh I actually read something about this a few weeks ago, it sounded like a fun hobbying project
I heard something about the rebels recently getting refreshed to replace some old PVC with more modern plastic sculpts, have the empire/republic ranges been refreshed or is that something to be expecting in the coming months/years?

>>96820620
Correct, every single soft plastic mini is/will be resculpted into hard plastic. The hard plastic minis from old legion will be repackaged with new cards. As of now, you can already get a few of these kits, like
>Clone infantry
>Stormtroopers
>Scout Troopers
>Rebel troopers
>Rebel commandos

>>96820661
>>96820620
FYI, we're a few weeks before ministravaganza, when AMG is basically guaranteed to reveal new kits. The pics I'm posting are a year old.

>>96820661
i might get back into this actually
I got into it when it was initially released, but the mini sculpts honestly sucked ass. Glad to see they will get proper treatment

>>96820661
>>96820672
Gotcha good to know good to know
How many units on average are you looking at for a standard list?

>>96820716
In general, you're looking at 10-13 activations in an army. The republic works differently, as their armies are 6-11 due to some highly elite builds, eg. With Anakin, Bad Batch or Clone super squads with Ahsoka.

IT’S OGRE.

They finally took aul yeller out to die.

>>96815314
The OT is one of the worst aspects of Star Wars.

>>96820968
I sleep

>>96820968
>The OT is one of the worst aspects of Star Wars.

>>96820550
Bit annoying that they didn't give separate male/female torsos
Girl heads look a tad off on these bodies, especially without the armor.

>>96816184
Or hell, he can just post his Coruscant terrain that he's apparently got on tap. The worst part of that terrain is that its fucking GW tier expensive, so I would be overjoyed to pick up an equivalent from somewhere. But I have a sinking feeling that if he had that, he'd have posted it alongside his little schizo melty.

>>96819989
Was Nar Shaddaa supposed to be a negative reflection of Coruscant by chance?

>>96822363
It's coruscant without the pretty outer layer

>>96805792
Who’s children?

You guys are kinda kind and easy-going.

>>96823290
I don't know, who is children?

>>96823458
Which children would be save?

https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/scene-to-stats-grievous-tsmeu6/

New Greg. The 2 pip seems really good for vehicle lists. Could actually prove really painful against ewoks. The 1 pip seems nasty against units that rely on billions of tokens, like an Obi wan on his 1 pip round.

>>96825216
>more grievous
once again asking for commander ventress

>>96820772
Sick, how important are vehicles/walkers?

>>96821008
Yeah, I really hate that, even if flat chicks are cute these unisex bodies look too manly. As a wise woman once said: "men should be buff and women should be vavoom."
>>96825216
Damn, the rich keep getting richer. AMG never misses the mark on CIS releases.
It's a bit crazy to me from a balance perspective that Grievous (even the the infantry version) is now the best vehicle commander in the game even when compared to the like of Cody, Veers and even Marquand.
Though it makes sense lore-wise, he was a seasoned ground General even before getting shanghaied into joining the CIS, so it's fitting that he would be good at directing both infantry and vehicles.
It's just a bit frustrating that CIS gets the most versatile army, they feel like the only army that doesn't get restricted by their faction identity.

>>96820676
If the new legion sculpts are anything like the standard for shatterpoint the quality is fantastic, barely any mouldlines to clean up and they fit together without any major pains

>>96825259
Agreed, I'd also like that
>>96825445
They are very good now. The big thing about vehicles is that they can't be knocked off objectives through suppression. They also usually block LOS. As far as competitive choices go:
>Empire - AT-STs, specifically in Tempest Force
>Republic - AT-RTs, ISPs
>Rebels - AT-RTs, Lanspeeders, Speeder trucks
>Shadow collective - Speeder trucks, swoop bikers
>CIS - droidekas, crabs, spiders, snails, Aqua droids
>>96825512
>Pic
Lovely stuff!
>unisex bodies
I've seen some people greenstuff some tits and ass on, and the results are pretty good. See: the pic
>Greg
Yeah. At least there is a points change coming soon, I believe AMG said they'd have a points update in november. Let's hope for some more Empire buffs this time around.

>>96826159
The final result. As mentioned, these are not mine.

>>96826168
Neat.

Really makes you wonder why they didn't a include female torso or three on the sprue. They have them on various other squads/heroes

>>96826168
Why is evil allowed to be hot?

>>96829485
>I can fix her

>they brought back darth maul, palpatine, boba fett, ventress etc etc, THEY CAN TOTALLY BRING BACK BEN SOLO

are they just ignoring the part where his body literally disappeared like obi-wan, yoda and luke?
and half the examples they use arent even characters dying

>>96829592
>i can make her worse

>>96829950
It is legitimately hard for me to enjoy canon stuff when you know they always lead to the bad movies.

>>96820968
TRUTH NUKE
>duuuude the setting should just be boring generic rebels vs generic boring nazis
>duuuude the force should be subtle and mystical
>duuuude battle of hoth was epic! i loved when the unkillable walkers just shot infantry for 10 minutes
>ewoks! epic!
>duuuuude lightsaber fights should be slow boring dogshit

Prequels blow those boomerslop out of the water. More interesting battles, more interesting conflict, characters and fights. Old Republic too. Sequels failed because they translated the boomerslop to the modern day

>>96831743
Mandalorian was at its best when it was disconnected from the sequels, the more sequelshit and prequelshit they threw in there the worse it got

>>96831810
>generic boring nazis
That's sequels. Empire is more influenced by Imperial Japan
>ewoks! epic!.
Nobody ever thought that
Sequels failed at even making boomerslop.

>>96831824
season 3 was such a fucking letdown outside of a few key moments
but they had to try to fix the garbage tie-in with book of boba
I probably won't bother going to see the movie

I'm unbelievably salty that they took the cool point of the armorer in S1 where she was able to defend herself with just her tools and turned it into a marvel superhero gimmick where she apparently just ONLY fights with her tools

How's D6 for solorpg?

>>96826159
>>96826168
Thanks.
That's a nice source of inspiration.
I was planning to resculpt my Rebel Agent to give it a more feminine figure.
I also got the Imperial Officer/Agent box and was planning to kitbash/sculpt the officer into Ocho from Visions and make the agent some sort of Storm Commando.
I'll post the result when I get around doing it.
>Legion Point Changes
I really don't know what to expect to be honest.
People keep clamoring for Aqua nerfs, but I think just making the Heavy 5 points more expensive might be enough. I don't think CIS has really any underperforming unit that could use a buff
For Republic I think Clone Infantry heavies could use a small point cut, and Commandos/Delta could do with costing around 5pts less.
As a Rebel Player I think Sleeper Cell are now well costed, but the Landspeeder M-45 and Unhinged Droid will get hit with the nerfbat. I'm not sure how they could buff Rebel Commandos and Wookies. I can't see them make commandos even cheaper, it would be weird for commandos to cost less than Corps. I think for Wookies they'll try to give them a wookie-only upgrade to try and fix them.
Imps are where it gets tougher. I doubt they'll touch corps, they'll want to see how Imperial March and the Customs affect things. ISF have the same problem as Rebel Commandos, but they could get a 10-15pts cut without stepping on corps' toes. I doubt they'll reverse Range Trooper nerfs, but they should, at least until the new objectives are released. The Inquisitor will probably get a 10-20pts cut to match other Force user buffs last update
For Mercs, I think Cad Bane could use a 10pts cut and/or making the gauntlet free. Likewise, SC Maul could get a 10pts cut.
What I'm most curious about is if they'll show the Squadron Leader, Kraken and Rex upgrade cards. I hope other factions can get their own named characters as Heavies for units that could use more options.

>>96829485
Is that AI art?

>>96831900
>Darth Vader had a samurai helmet
>that means the space Nazis were actually Japanese!
Why are boomers actually retarded?

>>96832455
I talk about the Navy, not Vader.
Also, the eastern influence is more visible in Stormtroopers wearing white instead of black.

>>96829485
Something something Maddonna/Whore complex, something something danger is erotic.

>>96829592
>>96829980
>i can accept her for who she is

>>96832122
>Officer/Agent box and was planning to kitbash/sculpt the officer into Ocho from Visions and make the agent some sort of Storm Commando
Gigabased, i do wanna see that when it's done. Visored helmets are just cooler.

>>96834008
Redeeming a villain so she becomes good while keeping the spicy side for the bedroom is peak farmboy rise to Paladin-like champion of the galaxy.
Leia did it with Han too.

>>96829950
Bring back Poggle.

>>96831900
>Empire is more influenced by Imperial Japan
Let's check:
- no divine emperor, or any centralized religion at all
- no warrior codex to speak of, relies on masses of anonymous soldiers instead
- actively wipes out what could pass as warrior monks

>>96832483
>I talk about the Navy
I never saw pic related on star destroyers.

>>96834016
https://youtu.be/MJAZ4XyDKF0?si=LPGiFOoWYF958rOq&t=133
What does everyone think of the Storm Commando designs from Rebel Strike?

>>96832396
I don't know, I saved the file from this general in November 2022.

>>96834639
It's not bad, but like I said, I mostly like Storm Commandos because they let me oper8 operationally in the best-looking Imperial armor, made 20% cooler because it's black.

>>96834385
The imp officer tunic is very close to IJA dress tunic, stiff turtleneck and all.
The cap is practically a copy of the NCO cap in your pic.

Lucas was not copying directly, though. The 'Imperial look' is various things from Victorian British to Imperial Germany to Imperial Japan all thrown together and coupled witha rather stark black/grey/white palette.

>>96834825
There's nothing Jap about the Imps. John Mollo, who designed the original Imperial officer uniforms said that Lucas wanted uniforms that looked "efficient, totalitarian, fascist." Mollo specifically said he was inspired by the German Uhlan cavalry uniforms from WWI (pic related, and source of the collars and front plastrons) mixed with the olive drab belted tunics of Nazi Germany.

Lucas didn't help things in the commentary for Empire Strikes Back by constantly referring to the Imperial uniforms as just "Nazi" despite them having more influence than JUST Nazi uniforms.

>>96829950
Obi-Wan, Yoda and Luke DID come back, somehow. And even Anakin.

>>96834875
>There's nothing Jap about the Imps
Some of the helmets are kabuto styled.

would you pull off heists across the galaxy for her?

>>96835105
For a female Twi'lek or a female Chiss, maybe.

>>96835105
I'm not a furry, but...

>>96834875
>There's nothing Jap about the Imps
Yeah, no.
They are a mix, but claiming 'there is nothing jap' is just idiotic.

>>96834875
>Lucas didn't help things in the commentary for Empire Strikes Back by constantly referring to the Imperial uniforms as just "Nazi"
He also referred the Rebels as 'they are the Viet Cong', compared the fall of the Republic to nixonian America and compared the Trade Federation to robber baron tycoons in the wild west.

He clearly thinks in broad definitions and visual or stylsitc associations, not in actual, hard real world definitions of those things.

>>96835224
But. . . ?

>>96835105
>>96835357

>>96835394
Mandalorians are like the Vikings of Star Wars
>Pvre Warrior Culture
>Only does well when going up against barely equipped militias
>Gets curb stomped whenever sent against a proper army

>>96835481
Vikings were mostly traders, though.

>>96835481
They almost dominated the galaxy and stomped the republic like 3 different times

>>96835481
Mandalorian Varangian Guard when?

>>96835105
Would.

>>96831810
Oh hey threadshitter, get bored of trying to trigger /wfg/ and decided to drag your manky arse across our carpet again have you.

>>96835602
Got one.

>>96835774
To be fair, he's not wrong about a big part of the ST being shit was the fact that it was a low-effort attempt at remaking the OT without technically being a remake.

>>96835801
>a big part of the ST being shit was the fact that it was a low-effort attempt at remaking the OT without technically being a remake
A big part of the ST being shit was that it was made by hacks who could not write a trilogy.

Good morning, /swg/.
Can we agree that Bo is easily one of the worst characters in Disney star wars?

>>96834016
>>96832122
>Storm commandos
Makes me wonder about the amount of required kitbashing here
The armored torso and legs are a start. The seeker droid also makes thematic sense. The scout helmet is also obvious. What about the rest? Anything on the arms or legs?

>>96835968
I mean, a Din and Bo romance WOULD have gone crazy.

>>96835985
I guess that would be it. Maybe some bits off the Deathtroopers?

>>96835968
I'd say that admiral cuntface (Laura Dern) or Rey Palpatine would be the worst Disney character.
Bo-Katan, like Ahsoka, was made pre-buyout (Bo-Katan's first appearance was Jan 2012), so they're disqualified by technicality.

>>96835985
Yeah, I thought about keeping the torso and legs as is, for the arms I'm still weighing my options, but I'll probably go with Scout Trooper arms to go with the helmet unless it looks too weird.
I'll definitely replace his blaster with an E-11, even if an EC-17 could work. I'm not sure what kind of melee weapon option I should give him though.
The stun and riot batons don't feel suitable for an operative.
A vibrosword or vibroaxe would look a bit over the top but I don't hate it. Especially a BX droid-style vibroblade.
A force pike or an electrostaff feels like the coolest choice.
A vibroknife is obviously the best option lore-wise but it would look a bit boring.

>>96836068
Yeah, fair. I personally had the idea to put a leftover GAVw tank helmet on the operative since I despise painting faces. Maybe I'll also look into 3d printed helmets.
>>96820550
I actually like the riot baton as a storm commando weapon - see the two dudes on the left here. It's big enough to look like a serious weapon. The stun baton looks tiny, more like a Harry Potter wand than something that should be able to block lightsabers.

>>96836051
You hate women so much it's unreal

My answer is Suh-vauge O'press. Interesting concept ruined by the name.

>>96836088
>3D-printed helmets
Always a good idea if you want to make a warlord-looking dude. And yeah, not having to paint faces is great, as a rebel player that part is always a chore.
>It's big enough to look like a serious weapon.
Agreed, but I still prefer something that looks a bit more lethal.
Tbh I'm also debating whether to have the Storm commando dual wield the gun and melee weapon or to magnetize the right arm with either options and keep his left hand empty. Or maybe put electrobinoculars in his left hand.
Dual-wielding would be easier to model, but using only one weapon would look more serious.

>>96835968
the mandalorian was a mistake

LITERALLY 1 good season

An imperial officer psychopath who works with Darth Vader isn’t afraid of Vader right?

>>96836121
Disney just can't write women.
Also, Savage Opress is pre-buyout and clearly named by Lucas himself.

>>96836333
More than kenobi or acolyte can claim

>>96836736
>doesnt mention book of boba fett
bobachads...we won.....
now all we need is a season 2 with omega

>>96836794
Well, to be frank I just forgot that existed.

I still wonder if they were all just high as fuck when they greenlit those shows.

>>96836815
good ideas, just poor execution

plus in my opinion, they came out too early in regards to the lore
so any good ideas for a "season 2" wont happen because season 1 for both shows were just shit
BoBF came out just as bad batch was airing, if bad batch had finished its 3 seasons first, BoBF could have used omega in its story
same can be argued with kenobi, ventress and obi-wan teaming up would be a solid idea too, and if kenobi came out say, this year or next year, that could have happened

Is it worth trying the Star Wars RPG? It's a system I've been interested in for awhile.

>>96835105
>>96835357
>ywn be a sith with his own intelligence agent (alien) concubine

>>96836857
No one wants to see Omega ever again, you shit stain for brains. She was a shit character and Bad Batch was a shit show that left zero cultural impact. No one wants to see Boba Fett getting bossed around and made "good" by obnoxious femoid. People want badass stone cold bounty hunter Boba Fett, not a crime lord boba fett who doesn't do any crimes and who can't do any action, because he is old and fat, so they had his asian femoid sidekick take over the show. No one wants to see Ventress in a story where Obi-Wan was supposed to learn how to become a Force ghost with Qui-Gon. Ventress is dead. Obi-Wan doesn't give a shit about Ventress. He had much more pressing matters to think about than some bitch from a war who had tried to kill him a bunch of times. You have such a brainrot, it's baffling.

>>96836051
>>96836121
Arguably Bo-Katan's character was "ruined" by Disney, as the pre-buyout character was a dumb terrorist who only saw the horrors of her actions when they affected her directly (got her sister killed). Her last appearance was helping Obi-Wan escape Mandalore, everything after that is after Disney took over. Savage Oppress existed only in the Lucas-controlled Clone Wars, lived and died under George's direction.

Pic related is the closest we got to Bo-Katan's redemption.

>>96837138
you're obsessed, just let it go

>>96836859
If you’re talking about the Fantasy Flight Games RPG series like Edge of the Empire then yes, it’s definitely worth trying out. I’ve been having lots of fun with it, the dice system leads to some very dynamic situations but I would recommend using a digital dice roller.

I, for one, enjoyed Mando Season 3, and have no strong opinions on Bo-Katan.

>>96835968
Need one for Borsk Fey'lya

>>96838350
need one for ahsoka
"potential jedi"

maybe I should make it later

>>96838350
Any suggestions to make it good?

>>96838552
the 0/0/7 thing is a 007 joke, 001 just doesnt work, so find things he's done 7 of
e.g for the ahsoka idea i mentioned a minute ago
"0 relevance in the movies"
"0 character development"
"7 tv show appearances"

>>96838574
>>96838552
>>96838530
>>96838350
>>96835968
Go back to shitter with your painfully unfunny normalfaggot memes, you underage brown queers. Every time the likes of you try to make a meme it ends up being wall of text leftist tirade. God, this general just completely sucks now.

>>96838574
Sure, why not. Not sure how else to put the Caamasi firestorm somewhere.
>>96838606
Sorry, you're right it's not that funny.

>>96838606
then leave, we'd all be better off and dont have to deal with your insufferable ass filonifag

>>96838649
You're not in the company of underage brown queers on shitter, ventressfag. Stop dragging bottom of the barrel crap from the bowels of the internet here, no one is interested, you gay subhuman.

>>96838645
Nice work anon. At least someone here is having fun.

>>96835801
His assertion that ST was shit because it immitated the OT *and the OT was shit*, not because in doing so it was an unoriginal immitation of a superior predecessor. Dunking on the OT and pretending to be a rabid Prequelkiddie is always Threadshitter's opening move, next it'll be Ventressfagging or reposting that unused comic cover to try and start a fight about the EU. It's always the same and dumbasses always fall for it for some reason.

>>96835801
>>96835878
Both can be true.

>>96835481
The mandalorian are spartans/jews. I think Star Wars needs a space viking faction to flesh things out.

>>96834875
Yeah, sure aren't any parallels with having do fights against an EMPIRE lead by an EMPORER.

>>96838897
hey I only do ventressfagging when I feel itd okay to do so, I know my boundaries and at least try to make a topic about it

unlike now where i'm just posting this because it's her VA's birthday and I thought the image was cool

>>96840073
oh wait shit I misread the sentence now I look like a fool, ignore this

>>96838606
At least this produces OC, something I haven't seen from one of these threads in years. If you wanna argue about where it all went wrong, or why Bo-Katan is a shit character, or why Ahsoka's a shit character, or why Andor is a betrayal of everything SW stands for, or why Legends is doodoo, or why the Pellaeon is a horrible successor to the Imperial, or why Legends did Clones better, or any of the other overargued, over discussed, beaten to death topics that derail thread after thread, just wait for a few days. I'm sure we'll be game then.

Should I open the Sith holocron? My Jedi character is just confident enough that he can get important knowledge we need from it without being corrupted.

>>96840472
>nah, I'd win
I don't think that has ever worked out for a Jedi who tried it. They sometimes come back from the Dark Side, but never without paying a price.

>>96834799
Just wondered because I couldn't find who made it or where it came from. Could have been a drawfag. Wouldn't have been the first time an image descended into being too obscure for image search

>>96840472
No, but your character should turn the holocron into a hood ornament for their starfighter.

>>96836736
Fuckin' Devaronians

>>96835597
>>96835506
>>96838913
What I'm hearing is that they'd be much improved if they were written as Space Norsemen, instead of Space "Vikings".

>>96841241
I wish, man. I wish.

>>96842108
I prefer white.

>>96840516
Based on historical experience, that's going to end with you being constantly followed by the spirit of an ancient Sith Lord with a dumb name, who keeps pestering you to become the next Dark Lord of the Sith until you eventually give in and burn down the Jedi temple.

>>96842603
bit suspicious that every imperial officers girlfriend (yes, even the female officers) are either a twi'lek, miralan or pantoran?

>>96843066
It is part of anti-subversion training.

>>96843066
>miralan or pantoran
Those are more acceptable near-humans than those with outright inhuman physical features unrelated to skin colour.

>>96844425
>rattataki
your entire existence got taken away from you for the better in my opinion

What's with Threepio not being able to control his actions but at the same time being fully self-aware when his head was attached to a B1 body? Isn't his "brain", or CPU, supposed to be in his head? Why couldn't he control the B1 body? Why would he randomly say "DIE JEDI DOGS" and compulsively shoot at everyone? Do B1 droids have some kind of CPU or behavioral module in their bodies that takes over? Because B1 droid head that was attached to Threepio's body was fully aware of his function as a B1 droid and said that he couldn't move for shit, so his CPU was clearly in the B1 head and was fully in control of Threepio's body. What the fuck was even the point of that entire sequence anyway?

>>96844540
Both Maul and especially Ventress being tied to Dathomir was a mistake.

https://www.xwing.life/resources/points
There was a big update to the x-wing points today. The fanmade project moved from 20 points to 50 points per squadron.

>>96844875
>In Universe explaination
B1 Processors are in the backpack, not the head. But C-series Processors are in the head. So, it's a droid with 2 processors. 3P0 most likely only has a Basic processor due to him being unable to do things he's not programmed for. B1's also have a Basic Processor as a cost saving measure. So, being that 3P0's processor can't interact with any of the B1 systems and the B1 Processors are barely capable of interacting with the speach unit, it means that the B1 Processor just follows its orders, while 3P0's objects because, as he says "I'm programmed to educate, not destruction." But has no ability to stop the B1 processor.
>Actual reason
Heehoo funny

>>96842204
True Human High Culture is to have waifus/courtesans/slavegirls in all colors.

>>96846733
Indeed. A Man's truest goal should be to taste every color of the rainbow.

>>96846817
Do not attempt to lewd crazy hot sith, she will force lightning your dick.

>>96845921
It's
>I'm programmed for etiquette, not destruction!
you deafdumb ESL buffoon.

>>96847220
The risk makes temptation stronger.

>>96842204
What race is this?

>>96847220
>haha electroplay is my kink!
>unoreversecard.jpg

>>96847695
Arkanian Offshoot, subrace of Arkanian.

The specific character is Jarael, I believe.

>>96847861
Thank you my son.

>>96847695
Arkanian Offshoot, yes.

>>96847941
That mustache guy on the right has great expressions.
>what's the boss looking at me for
>oh wow she's kissing him
>wait she's still kissing him, with tongue, in public, fuck have some decency to do that in private
>still kissing him... I feel so alone

>>96847738
not an uno-reverse until she is bearing your children

New Visions soon.
Excitement?

>>96848096
I didn't even know it was happening.

>>96848096
Overall I'm looking forward to it. Still sad there's no continuation of Lop and Ocho.

>>96848284
2 days from now iirc

>>96848353
Yeah. It was kind of written like a potential pilot for a series.

At least Ninth Jedi IS getting a series.

>>96848096
Chink cartoons are even lamer than western ones so no.

>>96848972
Indeed. They are very cheap in many ways. Thank the Force, they kept the Chinks from participating.

>>96847958
>not an uno-reverse until she is bearing your children
Is this Sith logic?
Your seed gets her pregnant, so she submits and bears your children but now she has your children as hostage?
Sounds like the setup for the most dysfunctional family ever.

Also, sex with her is probably more like ballet, wrestling and bondage all in one.

>>96849366
Reminds me of Otters. If a Male Otter is hungry and his mate has food, he will literally start drowning their babies until she gives him her food.

>>96849366
I can't imagine a Sith relationship being anything but dysfunctional, considering that by the Sith philosophy the relationship only works as long as both sides feel that they gain something from it and both sides will try to maximize their own gains and dominate the other.

female sith be like "we must destroy the jedi!" but then proceed to have a jedi boyfriend
many such cases!

Ranking the Posters in this general
>Chosen One Tier
Wargames posters
TTRPG posters
Board game posters
>Bigger Fish Tier
/k/ posters
/his/ posters
>Pudu tier
Coomer posters
EU posters

>>96849833
Nightsisters are not Sith, and they just want to repopulate Dathomir.

>>96849700
FWIW, I wrote a bit of background for a potential campaign in the Legacy era and I noted that the One Sith were basically doing arranged marriages, to gain political and/or dynastic power while also hopefully breeding the next generation of powerful Sith.

>>96834875
Their hats are budenovkas with the top shaved off.

>>96850547
They used to be in old lore. But then again, Old Lore couldn't get its facts straight on anything, so this could just be another "We couldn't be bothered to look further than one of those 'Star Wars Essential Characters Encyclopedia' books that anyone could shit out without doing their research on" things.

>>96851477
In old lore, Nightsisters were just Dark Sider subgroup of Witches of Dathomir, which in turn may have origins in an exiled Jedi woman, but they had no direct connection to the Sith.

Gas eufags

>>96850664
>Legacy
Holy shit. Did we finally find someone who actually uses the Pellaeon in their games? (Or would if the campaign actually happened)

>>96848503
>At least Ninth Jedi IS getting a series.
No lie?

>>96851661
>>96850547
Correct, Nightsisters lack Sith heritage in both continuities.

>>96851477
Sometimes people didn't care for the nuance of Sith vs Dark Jedi vs Unrelated Dark Side Cult. Sometimes they're also depicted as having access to lightsaber tech, which isn't supposed to be correct.
>The Clone Wars: Jedi Alliance had them with crossguard sabers seven years before Kylo
>Empire At War: Forces of Corruption had Silri, a Nightsister hero for the Consortium who wielded a lightwhip
>Battlefront: Elite Squadron (at least the Nintendo DS port) had a Dathomir level where the protagonist fights several saber-equipped Nightsisters
It definitely seems like a video game thing to have witches with lightsabers. I think it might be the case that, in-setting, people often make the mistaken assumption that they must have Sith origins. In Elite Squadron the Jedi protagonist identifies them as Nightsisters, at which point his Force-deaf companion goes "a Sith witch?!"

>>96850547
digging up an argument from the grave for this one
ventress was a type of sith

>>96852223
That argument belongs in the grave, it doesn't make sense. Ventress got Sith training from Dooku, why does that make Nightsisters Sith? Should we consider the people of Tatooine as Sith because of Darth Vader?

How's shatterpoint doing? We used to get some discussion of that game, but nowadays we only really get Legionfags

>>96852345
Floundering and dying.
Shouldn't have used its own scale and just been to Legion what Kill Team is to 40k: a small, squad based entrypoint with models that make an easy crossover from one system to the other.

>>96852250
Ventressfag is legitimately stupid, like not joking or trying to insult him. He is just not very bright, intellectually.

>>96852250
sith assassin etc etc etc

>>96852706
anyway i'm just fucking with you a bit, not really interested in debating

I have a different topic I want to discuss later on

>dude what if the republic and the empire fought....dude what if there were a billion jedi and sith dude....dude that would be very crazy
Old Republic is for Jeets

>>96852223
Ventress didn't even knew she was a Nightsister before being trained by Dooku for a while.

>>96853660
>he doesn't like peer conflicts
>he doesn't like armies of laser-sword-wielding warrior monks fighting each other for reasons that only roughly map onto the battle lines in the war going on around them

>>96853794
how'd she know to go to dathomir when she got betrayed then?

>>96853869
She was taken off her homeworld as an infant. The question should be WHY would she know her origins, if she couldn't know them by all logic.
The answer is: retcon.

>>96853850
Yes sar is very epic awesome like Vedic hymns

>>96854638
The answer is much simpler: Ky Narec obviously told her at one point when he trained her before Dooku.

>>96854719
What, he knows what Nightsisters, famously isolationist, look like when not raised by Nightsisters and growing hair?
Think, Anon, think!

>>96854824
Or he interrogated the slavers whom he fought when he freed Ventress. You think, you fucking cretin. And the Jedi knew what Nightsisters looked like, and they also knew of Dathomir, and the Nightsisters knew of the Jedi and had interacted with them in the past, as evident by Talzin's many lines of dialogue.

>>96854862
Making Ventress a Nightsister is a shitty retcon that was done only to tie her to Maul's arc.
She was used as introduction to Dathomir, to introduce Savage Opress, which led to return of Maul. She was a tool to a plot that she was not necessary for.
Remember: Maul was not a Nightbrother before The Clone Wars came out and made his type of Zabrak to be Dathomiran kind. Before that, Qui-Gon immediately thought he's a Sith from their first encounter, no mention of Dathomir.

>>96854896
No one gives a shit about "muh retcon" reductive thinking. Also, not even a retcon: you have to be reminded that none of the EU shit was ever canon, so as far as The Clone Wars goes, Lucas was introducing the one and only true and canonical information that had never been revealed before. Ventress was always a Nightsister. Maul was always a Nightbrother. That's how it goes. You have also automatically conceded because you were obviously proven wrong, when your obviously stupid points were easily refuted.
>Before that, Qui-Gon immediately thought he's a Sith from their first encounter, no mention of Dathomir.
No shit, you fucking cretin. Because he had a red lightsaber and knew the arts. Why would his race/planet of origin be mentioned at all, which is by all intents and purposes completely and utterly fucking irrelevant in the face of the fact that he was a Sith Lord, who was well-trained, and revealed himself for the first time in a millennia? Qui-Gon also never mentioned that he was a "Zabrak" from "Iridonia". Because it did not fucking matter.

>>96848983
Oh sorry you thought I was referring to the Chinese. I was just being racist.

>>96851878
But enough about your fartwitch fetishism...

speaking of nightsisters and stuff:

is ventress the only TRUE resurrection we've seen?
you could argue palpatine never "died" because he just body hopped and got crippled as a result, and basically everyone else is just "they survived their injuries"
>something something the hunt for ben solo

>>96855242
note that I am a bit concerned that it's opened a can of worms, and I was concerned already that they wouldn't have brought her back because at the time, they were just bringing basically just any random character back

>>96855242
Resurrections can't work in Star Wars because once anyone dies they become one with the Cosmic Force and they lose their identity. To say otherwise is to undermine the entire Star Wars narrative and its metaphysical foundation. Which is what J.J. Abrams had already done with Rise of Skywalker by bringing Palpatine back, because to him Star Wars is just pew-pew-pew, he never really put any deeper thought into it, he never once thought of the implications of what he was doing. You can't come back from the Netherworld of the Force, unless you've been specifically trained to preserve your consciousness after death or chosen for it, which is something only a few specific Jedi could do. It's been discussed and explained ad infinitum, I get the feeling that you just refuse to understand and accept it. Ventress' resurrection was a completely vague, nonsensical, totally arbitrary asspull, and there was no real thought put into it. It doesn't make sense on any level: narrative, thematic, logistical, continuity. It's also absolutely fucking hilarious just how pointless it ended up being: one filler Bad Batch cameoslop episode and a bunch of nothingburger shorts. Bravo, Dave. So I just struggle to see what is there even to discuss, other than you just having an excuse to post Ventress again, because that's all you ever post or care about. Speaking of which, I have never seen you post anything else. You never talk about Star Wars movies, Star Wars themes, Star Wars philosophy, or anything Star Wars really - all you ever talk about is your waifu.

>>96848488
This was off by 1 day anon, but I suppose is true now

>>96855335
60% of all force users in OT became force ghosts on screen. 75% of all force users who died in the OT became force ghosts on screen. 100% of all force users who died on screen in OT became force ghosts on screen. I don't mind so much that they brought back grandma as I do how they brought back grandma, also that the ST movies sucked shit and literally the only character I got any joy out of was the stormtrooper guy who got caught up in the quest to save the galaxy because maybe he might get his dick touched if he pretends to be a good guy, which is the most relatable motivation for a hero I've ever seen in a film. But, then, I liked nothing at all about the PT, so maybe I'm not really into Star Wars after all if I'm not willing to murder the innocent and bring their blood back to fuel its unholy unlife into perpetuity. Sometimes, dead is better.

>>96855335
(you)

>>96855242
I think it's notable that we at least saw that the Nightsisters had some sort of deal with Necromancy before hand. I do still think it's a lazy thing to just HAPPEN without goinig into detail. They at least go 'there will be a cost' but there's really no sort of rules established as to why this happens.
>>96855335
Nobody should be that surprised that the guy who wrote Lost thinks that endings are just things you pull out of your ass out of obligation.

>>96854938
The ability to use a lightsaber and it being red clearly was not enough to convince the Council that Maul was a Sith, until Qui-Gon was killed by him.

I need your help anons.
I am GM-ing a campaign in Age of Rebellion.
Now I am preparing for a session which is spoused to be a mid-point of the campaign. I wanted to end it in a boss fight.

And there is where my problem begins.
I have a idea for boss, but I could not find a good stat block for him.
I need nemesis level Imperial General with at least Adversary 1.
The General Veers would be good for vehicular combat, but I am planing fight on foot.
Do you have any suggestions?

>>96856296
one thing that's interesting that it presents is the fact that the nightsisters can preserve themselves after death in their own little spirit realm, which isnt natural (after all, it's the dark side)
granted, they don't act like force ghosts but can seemingly interact with the real world to a limited degree (needing artefacts to do so)
ventress was dead for MONTHS before she got buried (and resurrected) so it's interesting that she didn't pass into the netherworld of the force like everyone else does

>>96851930
The campaign didn't hapen, an I was specifically preparing to shit on the starship and starfighter designs.

>>96856952
The classic Imp Officer thing would be for him to not be a great fighter himself, but have a really tough elite bodyguard squad. Deathtroopers, maybe?

>>96856296
>necromancy
Not really. If you refer to the "zombies" they raised to fight the Separatists, it was not a true necromancy or resurrection. It was just one elder merely animating the dead bodies, they had no "souls" or will of their own. They were just puppets moved by the elder, and they all immediately fell once she was killed by Grievous.

>>96857059
Yeah, Ventressfag. It is very "interesting" how utterly retarded it is, and how it fundamentally contradicts everything about Star Wars and breaks its metaphysics just as much as the sequels did, if not more. Not that you care, of course. All you care about is your ugly waifu, you are not a Star Wars fan.

>>96857229
(you)

>>96857229
>it fundamentally contradicts everything about Star Wars
lolno, we have zero actual info on different types of non-Jedi force users, and before you say' bUtThey ArE sItH' you fucking well know they have jack shit to do with the whole Cult of Two retard club.

Also, Dooku using the Dathomirans to learn new ways to control the Force would have been way more interesting than another season of cloneshit.

>darth plagueis was so powerful and so wise that he could even influence the midichlorians to create...life...
well, where else did you think he could have possibly learned it from if not the nightsisters?

>>96858928
>well, where else did you think he could have possibly learned it from if not the nightsisters?
Ancient Sith texts

>>96858928
Careful Experimentation.

>>96858928
Being a scientist at heart while financier as a day job.

>>96859335
>>96859460
>>96860347
Pffff, ridiculous. Everyone knows stinky moids can only ever achieve anything if they steal it from women.

>>96860454
What makes you think Darth Plagueis was male?

>>96860768
Are you suggesting he was female to male trans?

>>96860907
If one is to understand the great mystery, one must explore all genders.

Going through my usual Halloween movie list and, however bad a flick it was, I am always amused by the 2011 Thing prequel where Ewan McGregor's wife, Hera, burns Owen Lars to death.
https://youtu.be/tz-XJMspLOA?t=31

>>96861272
>burns owen lars to death
finally, the mystery from ANG is solved

>>96855335
Per George it's still possible to collect a person's Living Force energy and store it. Mother Talzin was having Living Force extracted and store from various people in order to re-energize herself enough to resume her corporeal form after she used her Force witchery to become insubstantial to escape Grievous. She still kept all of the extracted energy in the same tank, so obviously people got blended but you could in theory just take one and store one and retain the person, presumably indefinitely. The new shit did reuse Sith having bound their Living Force essence to objects such as Darth Momin to his mask. Also I think Darth Filonius said that the Sith holocron Ezra had contained a specific person, but I can't be arsed to look it up. Also somehow the Grand Inquisitor returned as a ghost in the comics. Darth Vader keeps his spirit bound in his castle and occasionally sends him out to fuck with Luke, or whatever. Don't ask me how Vader managed to get his Living Force after he fell into an exploding hyperspace reactor.

It's not like a person's Living Force is really consumed as in ingested. Your spirit becomes part of the Cosmic Force, spread across everything. In theory a Force user who knows their shit could, in theory, pull a person back together again. It would be like trying to refill a cup with the same water you poured into the ocean years ago, but as Yoda would have it never underestimate the Force. Now imagine the horror of Yoda and Obi-Wan restoring the entire Prequel Jedi Council as Force Ghosts. Imagine how much damage they could do.

Also, and again in theory, an easier method would likely be because as part of the Cosmic Force the Ghosts are unbound to time and space. They could just hop back to the point in time where Mace Windu got through out the windu and yank his ass into Ghosthood. Just in time to play pep squad to Rey.

>>96861370
>Now imagine the horror of Yoda and Obi-Wan restoring the entire Prequel Jedi Council as Force Ghosts. Imagine how much damage they could do.
lets not forget the voices of jedi past in TROS (despite how shit the movie is)

seemingly, the nightsisters have their own spirit realm, its where talzin goes when she becomes incorpreal (and stays around without a body after dying in son of dathomir) where ventress goes when she's buried as a ghost, the dead nightsisters are presented as ghosts in the same episode as well as the nightsister ghosts which can possess people in rebels, you also have the dead nightsisters lending their power to the living as presented in fallen order

the real question is why doesnt ventress' spirit pass into the cosmic force when she dies, and appears on dathomir as a ghost months later as soon as she's buried
maybe theres some form of "spirit trapping"? their spirit cant become part of the cosmic force because of some latent nightsister spell?

>>96861448
>lets not forget the voices of jedi past in TROS (despite how shit the movie is)
I think that's what the "pep squad" comment was for. It would explain why Anakin's ghost was so absent in the sequels if he was still hiding from Mace WIndu's ghost.

>seemingly, the nightsisters have their own spirit realm
I thought the problem Talzin had was while she had enough witchy ichor to phase herself through solid matter she didn't have enough to fully come back. She tries to have a cult acquire enough force energy another way but Jar Jar and Mace stopped that, so in a comic she possessed Dooku and fed off of him until she could come back in time to get stabbed to death. I always wondered what the ramifications of that was to Dooku. Did she Force "level drain" him and this is why he was so much weaker in Revenge, or did he fully recover and it was just Anakin having leveled up on his own?

>>96861448
>the real question is why doesnt ventress' spirit pass into the cosmic force when she dies
Forgot to comment. I somehow doubt Filoni will ever give a concrete reason. The strongest fan theories revolve around the fact that Obi-Wan and Vos left her body to sink into the Nightsister's ichor reservoir. Ichor is basically concentrated living force they obtain from a giant fish monster and fuels their magicks. That's why when they shoved it into Savage Opress he not only became able to use the Force but he was also made larger, more muscular, and able to withstand withering blaster fire. His body was sustained by a large dose of Force energies and when he was horribly wounded it leaked out of him as smoke.

/k/ is a soulless place that only cares about ukr-rus war slop threads now so loadout threads die with little fanfare, so I had a cool idea. Make loadouts for the average dude in your homebrew Star Wars factions. Would be fun to compare to the average imp or rebel trooper

>>96861370
>it's still possible to collect a person's Living Force energy and store it
Yeah, just energy. Not identity. Nothing ever suggested or implied that. George was pretty tight on that shit. He even insisted that Nightsisters were NOT Force users, he was very autistic about Sith spirits, etc. So no, I doubt that.
>The new shit did reuse Sith having bound their Living Force essence to objects such as Darth Momin to his mask. Also I think Darth Filonius said that the Sith holocron Ezra had contained a specific person, but I can't be arsed to look it up. Also somehow the Grand Inquisitor returned as a ghost in the comics. Darth Vader keeps his spirit bound in his castle and occasionally sends him out to fuck with Luke, or whatever. Don't ask me how Vader managed to get his Living Force after he fell into an exploding hyperspace reactor.
Disney shit. Don't care. Enjoy discussing Disney shit with Ventressfag, I suppose.
>>96861979
>That's why when they shoved it into Savage Opress he not only became able to use the Force
Savage was already Force sensitive. Did you miss the part where he was the last man standing in the trials that made him Dooku's servant in the first place? He was the only one. He learned to use the Force and trained under Dooku. It was not injected into him. Dark Side training is quicker and easier, but he was very much unrefined and sloppy till the end.

>>96856952
I've never done any Genesys System stuff, so i can't help with rules, but i'd stat him as a Rom Mohc type of giving him a Droid Exosuit and Gatling Cannon.

>"Attention Rebel Scum. You are about to feel the full might of the Imperial Research Academy."
>Dark Trooper MkIII suit lands and he steps into it.
>"Stand down and face Imperial Justice. Or, at least, try to die with some god damned dignity. Either one will look good on the report."

Or, make him a melee fighter and go the Senator Armstrong route

>"You think I have these bars because Daddy bought them for me? Unlike these other sops, I actually earned my commission through hard work-"
>Takes off his coat and jacket to reveal massive rippling pecks.
>"And crushing skulls." *Cracks knuckles*

>>96862318
>Savage was already Force sensitive.
Did you literally miss where his last words to Maul were, "I'm not like you. I never was." As he was dying he lost all the witch smoke and reverted back to his original non-powered form. Not to mention he was literally empowered with the Force in the first place as part of Talzin's plan to give Dooku a traitorous new assassin/apprentice to get her revenge against the Sith.

So I was watching The Return of the Jedi and I was wondering: How come emperor Palpatine can use the Force? Who thought the emperor how to use the Force?

>>96862543
Holy fuck, you are literally fucking braindead. "Not like you, never was" meant that he was not like him in character, resolve and spirit. He was weak. He failed and got merced. He was an unworthy apprentice. It was explicit and fucking obvious. Did you miss the entire arc where he tried to bond with him like a brother? Savage was physically amped, but he was not injected with the Force, you fucking cretin. The only reason he survived Ventress' trials while others didn't is because he was Force sensitive in the first place, you fucking donkey. He literally had precognition, anticipated her attacks and dodged them. Dooku then trained him, there was literally an entire episode where he was trained by Dooku. God, Star Wars fans are so fucking retarded, it's insane. Don't reply to me, faggot.

>>96862840
>meant that he was not like him in character, resolve and spirit.
Oh sure, lots of folk as they far witch gas and fade back into a nothing lament that they don't have the same temperament as their evil bro. Makes total sense, ya fuckin' knob.

>but he was not injected with the Force, you fucking cretin.
That's literally what the Nightsister's ichor is made from, sleemo. All their magicks are Force based. The fucker didn't show any powers until being enhanced by Talzin's ritual, but somehow this is too dense for you, and vice versa.

always figured Savage being turned into a force user was obvious because that's why sidious was chilling on dathomir to learn how they influence life. saw maul and decided to child abduct instead.

any one know if sidious was master already or maul was part of his plan to kill plaguis?

>>96863144
Well it seems the new Disney lore is that Plageuis was not Palpatine's master. Which always made more sense to me honestly-

I like the implication that Palpatine is stroking his own ego when he tells Anakin about how Plageuis was killed by his own aprpentice, but I prefer it be ambigiuous if he's talking about himself, or an actual Sith Legend, or if he's making it all up on the spot. Of the three, I prefer it be an actual Sith legend, and thus not something Palpatine personally experienced.

It seems like new Disney lore is that the cool sith guy we saw in Acolyte was Plageuis' apprentice, and probably the one that mercs him on his sleep baring an arbitrary plot twist. I don't know if or when that show is getting a second season, I don't think it molested my mother like some people do, but I won't lose sleep if Acolyte doesn't get a second season. Overall nothing about the creative decision thus far particularly bothers me though as it stands. I don't mind us getting more Plageuis lore, I would have preferred it all stayed ambigiuous, but like I said, I think this is the least worst option than I've seen come from some fan interpretations (like Anakin's divine birth was Palpatine's psy-op).

>>96860907
>trusting the word of a Sith Lord who literally tricked everyone by crafting the most elaborate web of ruses imaginable
Nah m8, Darth Plagueis could just have been a woman.
Also, trans is not a thing in SW because you can obviously just hop into a Bacta Tank and have the doc change you.

>>96863357
lol no, just no. Disney is going to pretty much just going to use the Darth Plagueis novel. They've already used elements of it. Qimir was going to be a Ren (which is why he was given no last name, unlike every other character), it's even in the fucking artbook for the Acolyte. Seriously, stop doing headcanon bullshit about things that are already widely known.

Shit, I hate admitting it myself, but the tinfoils that brought up Kylo Ren's music ended up correct. It's pretty much spelled out.

>>96862716
I did. You're welcome.

So /tg/, what did you think of Star Wars Visions S3?

>>96864192
The impkied connection between Qimir and Kylo would probably be retconned if the Acolyte would somehow get continuation, since the comics established that the Knights of Ren aren't some sect of dark side users but a random pirate/space-biker gang that Kylo took over.

>>96862716
His master before him I assume

>>96864805
>some sect of dark side users but a random pirate/space-biker gang that Kylo took over.
The guy before Kylo was clearly religious, talking about Ren and shadow and whatnot.

>>96862716
>>96864850
Actually, what was the pre-prequel conception on Palpatine and his dark side powers? Him having been the chancellor/president of the Republic before getting himself elected as dictator for life was established as early as the novelization of the original film, but where did he gain the ability to shoot lightning at people? The term "Sith" while mentioned in the script and the longer version of the DS boardroom scene (before it was cut down to what ended up in the finished film), was very vague in definition (and there definitely wasn't a notion of a chain of Sith masters and apprentices going back 1000 years), so most novels just referred to the bad guys with red lightsabers as "dark Jedi", and Palpatine never seems to have been conceived as being a former Jedi.

>>96864500
Shinya Ohira's entry is the first good Star Wars animation since 2005, and arguably the best Star Wars thing to come out since the Disney acquisition.

>>96864500
Don't care about generic weeb slop. Shan't even pirate.

>>96863934
>Someone in the GFFA goes trans
>gets a bunch of hi-tech surgeries
>including an artificial womb mounted inside the abdomen
>This person is stigmatized not for being trans, but for being a cyborg

>>96865373
It seems like a lot of people back then had this idea that Palpatine was more like an ancient evil entity, old like Yoda if not older. That his political career in the Republic and ensuing reign as Emperor had been his most recent identity in a long chain of covers over the centuries.

>>96865373
Sith in the early drafts were an evil Dark Side order similar to and rivaling the Jedi. Knights of the Sith they were called. It's reasonable things coelesced as they did

>>96864805
>since the comics established that the Knights of Ren aren't some sect of dark side users but a random pirate/space-biker gang that Kylo took over.
Stop thinking anyone gives a shit about continuity from some comic book.

>>96866816
Especially when even novels got retconned already.

>>96863357
A reason I hate the rule of two is that it makes little sense as a means of ensuring continuity of their organization. If Master and Apprentice are on the same ship that gets destroyed the Sith are done, at least until some sleemo finds a Sith holocron and decides the Sith must rise again. There are things they can do to mitigate the issue, as during the PT Sidious and Dooku rarely met up, but it still is a risky gambit since pure happenstance can still do them in. Accident, disease, even a critical brain drain of Sith secrets if the Master falls down the stairs and leaves only a barely trained Apprentice to take over the mantle.

>>96863144
I think a lot of this is just fans connecting certain dots, like Plagueis having the knowledge to directly influence midi-chlorians to create life and the Nightsisters able to manipulate Living Force enough to make a relative nobody like Savage into a buff monster practically immune to blaster fire. All their so-called "magic" was just manipulating harvested Force energies, so it's tempting to make these connections. I'm not aware of any canon explanations. As I recall even the story of Sidious going, "Yoink, got yer Maul!" was Talzin's version of events. She's not exactly a reliable narrator, but broadly speaking that's surely what happened. The details of what Sidious was trying to learn is left sketchy.

>>96866862
Yeah, pretty sure comic stuff has been overridden too. The so-called grand unified canon of all Star Wars media is basically that something is canon-ish until overwritten by a later author. Basically all live-action flicks and streaming is still king, basically same as the old canon tiers. Still sucks how they retconned the Kanan comics with Bad Batch since the cartoon version of events was so much lamer.

>>96867498
Before, it was the actual mother of Maul, who wasn't Talzin, giving Maul to a passing by Palpatine, to get Maul away from the clan, as he had better chances with a Sith than as a slave Nightbrother, especially when he was a twin.
It wasn't even on Dathomir. And later Talzin was shown to consider Maul her slave who should belong to her, but she failed at reclaiming him. And that was before the Phantom Menace.

anyone see/have a good visual for lever action rifles or shotguns greebled to match star wars aesthetics?
how would you justify the lever cycling action within the narrative, since obviously blasters dont need to reload.

>>96867897
I enjoy the idea of someone saying, "Oh please, passing kind sir, take my innocent, vulnerable, morally malleable baby boy, I'm sure you'll take good care of him!" to a randomly passing by Palpatine.

It seemed weird that Talzin happened to be the actual mother of both Maul and Savage, but on second thought, given the relative low number of Dathomirian Zabrak and and how the chicks occasionally kidnap the Nightbros to breed, I have the feeling they're all related. Cue:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ow547fxWvDM

>>96866697
Tbh, the emperor being some ancient dark side sorcerer who brought down the Jedi and the Republic as the culmination of centuries of planning is cooler than Sheev Palpatine being the spoiled son of a Naboo politician who Darth Plagueus took as his apprentice since he was both Force-sensitive and an asshole (the two main qualifications for being a Sith).
Though I guess they did do the whole ancient evil Force-entity emperor thing in SWOTOR with Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion/whatever name he's going by this week.

>>96868204
I've been waiting for someone to reveal that not only did Palpatine know about Luke and Leia being brother and sister, he was the one who was secretly encouraging them to make out hoping that the child of the children of Anakin Skywalker would be twice as powerful as either of them. Also presumably twice as easy to manipulate due to looking like Sloth from Goonies.

>>96865373
>It seems like a lot of people back then had this idea that Palpatine was more like an ancient evil entity, old like Yoda if not older.
Makes sense given his first on-screen appearance

>>96867498
>A reason I hate the rule of two is that it makes little sense as a means of ensuring continuity of their organization
There's not a lot of great solutions since the Sith are so prone to infighting and the Jedi are so zealous about erasing them. Any attempt at expansion comes with a commensurate increase in backstabbings and Jedi on your back.

>>96868353
My best guess is it works (beyond just saying "plot says it does") because the Force lets them foresee when they need to make allowances for future catastrophes. How does that jive with the Apprentice being able to kill a Master that can foresee the future (which would be a problem either way?) Either an Apprentice just reaches a level of strength that it doesn't matter or is clever enough to work around visions. Either would be a suitable replacement (though I'd personally preference intelligence and guile over brute strength, ideally a Sith would have both). The other way it can work? Both end up leaving enough secret Apprentices lying around that they have some small degree of redundancy. Cue Dooku being a substitute for Maul and the plan keeps right on chugging along.

>>96868353
This is why i like the Triumverate idea over the Rule of Two.

Rule of Two's problem is that it relies on the honour code in a system that is designed to attract those who are generally not honourable. All it takes is one guy going "Well, i want power now, so i'll just put a bomb on the Master's shuttle and tell everyone i slew him in honourable combat." And suddenly the whole system goes into a death spiral where weaker and weaker Dark Lords rise.

The Triumverate is a flawed system, but at least it banks on the natural paranoia that such a system creates. Lords A, B and C share power equally. And with equal power, none have the clear advantage. This means 1 cannot stand against 2. And 2 can't team up to overthrow the other, because none can be sure of their intentions.

If A walks up to B and says "Hey, let's kill C and take his stuff for ourselves." Then B can't be sure that A isn't in cahoots with C to trick him into making the first move. Whereas A can't be sure B won't run off to C and tell him about A's plans so B and C come back to kill him. Now, as Kreia found out the hard way, this system falls to pieces the moment B and C hate A so much that they don't care about paranoia anymore, or are just too insane to understand basic reason. But at least it plays to the strengths of the system, rather than to its weaknesses.

>>96868772
>All it takes is one guy going "Well, i want power now, so i'll just put a bomb on the Master's shuttle and tell everyone i slew him in honourable combat."
If the master was worth his salt, he would see this coming and punish his apprentice appropriately. Which is to say either torture him until he gets back in line or killing him and finding someone else.
>And suddenly the whole system goes into a death spiral where weaker and weaker Dark Lords rise.
Nah, the system self-corrects because eventually when you get a pathetic enough dark lord, the next guy will be stronger almost by default. And then all it takes is some guy who's both strong and clever and we're back in business.

>>96868353
>>96868609
wasnt there a plot thread or something before disney where there was possibly multiple rule of two active in the galaxy, either actively avoiding each other or waiting to amass enough power to be the 'true' rule of two.

every sith has a not-so-secret secret apprentice in their back pocket anyway

>>96869176
and those apprentices are trying to take on their own apprentices themselves

its canon that you straight up have
>palpatine, who has dooku as his apprentice as a replacement for maul, he is trying to groom anakin to replace dooku
>dooku, who has ventress as his apprentice and is trying to convince other jedi to join him etc
>ventress, who is trying to convince impressionable younglings and padawans to join her as an apprentice

>>96868925
Yeah, but a system that fails and fails and fails and fails until a set series of circumstances arrive and with a lot of luck (Someone doesn't just slit his throat in his sleep) it self corrects into working, is not exactly a glowing endorsement.

>>96869176
>>96869299
My favorite bit of TCW is palpatine going to dooku and going
>hey I know you're trying to sith me with ventress and replace me
>don't be ridiculous master
>kill her then
>fine
>5 minutes later
>hello my new apprentice, are you ready to help me kill palpatine and replace him

>>96869095
I mean technically there was in canon since Sidious/Dooku and Maul/Savage existed at the same time. The funny thing is just how long Maul continued to be a loose thread for Sidious.

All this talk about witch shit reminded me that there was that Inquisitor in the Ahsoka show who also "bled" witch smoke. Does he have a backstory? I'd find it hilarious if he was evidence of Palpatine experimenting on Inquisitors using Nightsister techniques. See if they can be enhanced or if they'll, I don't know, explode?

>>96870200
He's in Maul show.

>>96870225
There's a maul show? Shit I really am out of the loop.

>>96870269
In 2026

i'm still a bit mad that they're giving maul a show

not sure what they can do and he's overused as it is

stay mad ventressfag

>>96871088
>slop is good because it makes people mad

NEW:
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>>96871204
>>96871204

>>96871093
>slop is good
yeah we know that you love slop

>>96871214
(you)