Thread 2819468

Why do longterm white expats usually avoid other white people in foreign countries? You never see Asians or Meds do this.

>>2819468 (OP)
Not me, I avoid everyone

>>2819468 (OP)
Because Germanics and Anglos have been psyoped to hate themselves by a certain group of tiny hat people

>>2819468 (OP)
Because if you're truly long term you get to understand the 1 of 5 conversations that almost always come up

The biggest annoyance is always wanna be digital nomads:
>DUDE HOW DO I DO WHAT YOU DO?
>try to explain it
>YEAH BUT LIKE WHAT DO I DO TO GET YOUR JOB BRO
>ask what skillets
>OH I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT I'M UNEMPLOYEED JUST GIVE ME A RESOURCE I CAN LEARN IT IN A MONTH RIGHT? WHO DO I GET HIRED BY BRO HELP ME
>explain it might take 2-5 years in office work to build a resume and show employers you're dependable to work remotely and have the skillset to follow up on projects, and that certificates might be a good idea. Also explain the pitfalls of timezones, being your own boss to ensure projects and deadlines, backup internet shit, and how weekends can be ruined
>eyes gloss over
>WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS DRUGASOFT TO LEARN JAVA IN 2 WEEKS!?!? BRO THE US MARKET SUCKS DUDE I LIVE AT HOME AND DON'T EVEN WAGE SLAVE BUT TRUST ME IT SUCKS THERE! REDDIT AND POL TOLD ME! x9001 doomer excuses

Most other expats are basic bitch travelers wearing the expat name or expats going in a slow decent into madness and poverty losing money at each turn. For those who are real long-term expats, most already know what to do and just want to get ingraned in the local culture or not hear about how Stacy from LA is ~finding themselves~ in SEA on their gap year with their trust funds.

It also depends on the country, PH I don't want to meet with balding 20y/o's who are desperate for pussy explaining to me da west has fallen, or in Korea a dickwaving competition by white guys explaining how they really could do a job there they just don't wanna. Power leveling competitions suck.

>>2819475
Meanwhile two Chinese people meet each other in Brazil

>woah you speak Ching Cheng too? Let's go eat hotpot and chill

>>2819468 (OP)
In asia you have the zoophilic sex pests from /r9k/ and in south america it's wanted criminals that fear to be identified by a fellow human.
No exceptions.
Nobody wants to deal with them so yeah.

>>2819477
I mean that happens but it's generally the exception not the norm. There are a good few friends I've made over the years being an expat, but 9 times out of 10 if I go hang out at a bar, pub, or event; that's simply not the case.

Usually, it's
>I wanna be a digital nomad conversaion
>have you tried in this country? What's the good place to go for what essentially is slop
>some 22-26 year old girl who's been a slam pig to everyone in the hostel they are staying at trying to get free drinks and ~explore themselves~
>bro you know where
>foreigner who wants to ask and debate me about america and I must have turned expat to get away from donlanb BLUMPF!

But this is just my perspective from ~8years of expat

>>2819475
You write like someone traumatized you

>>2819468 (OP)
>two Indians spawn in a country
>next year their entire family and neighborhood moves in partying and having fun jeeting up the place
I'm kinda jealous of this power

I've been an expat for the last 12 years and I have very few white friends here. But I'm kind of the odd one out. Most expat nationalities stick together - the French especially, the Americans to a large degree as well because no one else will put up with them (Americans abroad are an awful breed, but for some reason Americans are very pleasant when I visit their home country).

A lot of white expats are very covetous of the cachet of living abroad. It’s wrapped up in their personal brand that they portray across social media and in daily interaction. They want what they are doing to be unique, intrepid and meaningful—and they definitely don’t want to share in any of the self-perceived “glory”. Americans are particularly like this, but nationalities of all stripes can exhibit it.

It’s like dealing with the embassy is extremely difficult and onerous, and socializing with embassy workers doubly so. They resent you for being in that country because they feel it cheapens their experience. It can be very hard to penetrate this wall until you get them intoxicated then it whithers away.

>>2819468 (OP)
Depends on the place. I lived in several different countries in Asia.

>Japan (Tokyo)
most other white people are weird as fuck. you essentially have 50% chance of meeting some cringe autist or 50% chance of meeting a desperate sexpat who can only talk about sex. eventually you stop trying to meet other westerners.
that said there are many Eastern European models in Tokyo and they were fun to meet, they usually don't like Asian guys so they are happy to hang out

>China (Shanghai)
also lots of autism and weird people in general, and most white people have a terminal main character syndrome so they don't like seeing other whites. I've heard it's better in Hong Kong but never lived there

>Singapore
expats are actually pretty cool and they do hang out with each other all the time, they are pretty much the only one suistaining the nightlife scene in Singapore so you're bound to hang out with other white people if you're out. they're generally friendly, well educated, have good jobs etc. so it's a different class of people than the LBH stereotype in east asia

>>2819468 (OP)
Individualist culture. Asians are like the borg. All the same.

>>2819485
The liberals leave because they hate America. The people who stay love their country and are good people.

>>2819492
True, they want to be the only unique one

>>2819492
Plus they leave for a reason. If too many whites show up it will turn the nation white. Just like liberals turned America into a shithole by pouring in Hispanics.

>>2819503
>terminal main character syndrome so they don't like seeing other whites
The ones that look all around you but not at you when they see you. Annoying.

>>2819475
>how do I do what you do?

This so much. Nearly every single time a fellow white expat finds out I am living here permanently while earning a huge American salary. No im not going to help you. I planned and sacrificed for years to make this happen.

>>2819482
It's hard to explain, but it's enough to make anyone who's an expat annoyed or skin crawl. I don't know how many conversations I've been in where been having a decent conversation chilling with people only for them or someone in the group to drop that question and that's the only topic they focus on. The entire group will latch onto it and try to find out whatever "secret" they think exists to doing it.

Tell them they need to just say fuck it, going to lose some friendships, going to have to change myself, or need to study more? Nope! there has to be another way
Tell them that being a NEET and living off daddy's money with 15k credit card debt to see things abroad doesn't qualify them for a job? Nope! It does I know someone who did it
Explain that you'll really need to be your own boss, self-motivated, and it's not as glamours as the YT videos? Nope! doing it wrong I know I saw a vlog about it
Show them that working abroad and not for a US company actually is a step down in pay and quality of life? Tiktok didn't say that... Besides ORANGE MAN BAD!

There is nothing more irritating than being abroad and someone asking you "HOW DO I DO UR LIFESTYLE" then hit them with facts and they either zone out in the first 10 seconds explaining it requires work towards it. Or the alternative you get told nuh uh that's not how expats do it, they know they just haven't done it but could and whatever you say is wrong because tiktok/instagram/youtube post said it was easy! They just need you to tell them the ~secret~.

It's hard to explain but it can be a night ender if around the wrong people who won't drop the subject.

>>2819541
God you're fuckin disgusting

>>2819468 (OP)
because when you start being an expat you want to make friends and get a social circle, so you hang around with anyone and this puts you in contact with a lot of weird people and many canadians, germans and swedes, so after a while you realise that you are better off avoiding people.
so unless you are forced into a social situation, or someone comes recommended or you decide to randomly chat to another white guy, you play it safe to avoid the insane and canadian.
normally in your own country you are selective in who you socialise with, but as an expat just being white is enough to put you in the same situation as people you'd normally be segregated from at home.

>>2819503
shanghai has the worst expats in china. beijing expats are better, the other cities with fewer expats seem to be the best and friendliest. maybe as shanghai is the least effort to live in, they never have to really struggle to be there.

>>2819563
>because when you start being an expat you want to make friends and get a social circle, so you hang around with anyone and this puts you in contact with a lot of weird people
yes. tons of weirdos and people with unresolved trauma, family of origin issues, etc

You have to think of the kind of person that is OK uprooting and living in another country: probably someone without a warm family experience either from parents or their own (failed) family building.
Especially in asia for americans, it's very far away.

The best subgroups are going to be people that
1) are healthy individuals but just happened to have some deep interest in the adventure, the country, or some activity uniquely available there. normal people on sabbaticals would be nice
2) people without a bad family of origin but aren't just engaging in escapism, addictions, etc. they're actually doing/done recovery

you're unfortunately going to subject yourself to a ton of shit people if you expose yourself to expat general population.
>>2819503
>'ve heard it's better in Hong Kong
true. they are at least higher functioning and basically no autism. there was still HK degens whatsapp chat a moto group led me too lol.
lots of cross pollination with singapore, as these are the high money job hubs for asia for the most part. all the way up to partying with an oil exec and his filipina wife and her friends. dude was sort of a tard in aspects of life outside of his professional exerptise, but was loaded and could offload that thinking. fun loving guy.

>>2819468 (OP)
The premise of your thread is demonstrably bullshit, and anyone who has travelled around Southeast Asia or South America can attest to this. Westerners LOVE to hang out with other Westerners in those overseas destinations which cater to Westerners' desire for luxury living and hedonistic escape. Go to almost any hostess bar in Thailand, and I guarantee that you will see Westerners hanging out with each other and socializing, even if you don't see them anywhere else in the city.

Only a small percentage of white men, less than 5%, "go native" and forgo the comforts of living in an English-speaking expat bubble in order to immerse themselves in the local way of life. And most of those are adventurers who stay on the move.

>>2819562
And you sound jealous.

>>2819471
>>2819482
>>2819523
>>2819526
>>2819562
>>2819625
I'm not White, but I imagine that the quoted anons are why. I'd avoid them too if they acted like these fags.

>>2819475
>>2819550
Since we're anonymous and I'm not a retard, how hard is it to break into this lifestyle starting from zero? I won't reply with any tiktok bs (I don't even use it), so don't worry about any of that shit. Just want to travel and get in the mix. Starting from zero, how do I un-ironically do what y'all do? Give it to me straight.

>>2819667
NTA, I'd also ask how to do that starting from a STEM degree (physics/maths).

>>2819669
>STEM degree (physics/maths).
have to start by either being good enough at these to go into academia or you need to spec into a related real field: quant trading, various types of engineering.

or you do something seemingly unrelated and keep that as your academic background. e.g. a remote B2B sales type guy or online marketer type or remote manage an agency you started. list goes on and on.

I did it with software engineering and was pulling $300k remote from USA while livng all across SEA and EA, but i did top uni CS and had over a half decade exp and connections before I made the leap. Someone can't replicate my path with a little 1 month course.
Another anon on /pol/ worked in natural gas within Yangon itself.
An indonesian guy I met yesterday graduated from AUS and is working from AUS from here in Surakarta.

start by staying in the US and getting a foothold in a career, make academic, friend, and professional connections. the bottom line is that there is no one size fits all but having a degree w/no career started or in mind ain't it

>>2819773
oh btw I'm not >>2819550. I'm just another guy that's lived in SEA for years while working the USA system.

Some other quick notes: I worked 1 year locally in HK in my early career just to grab experience, but
>how them that working abroad and not for a US company actually is a step down in pay and quality of life
true

some will accept the step down though and it opens up options.

I also didn't make the full time remote from asia jump until I already had high 6 figures accumulated. Now I'm at $1.6M ($1.7M somewhere in august but we're down) and could probably coast while still increasing NW in various SEA towns, if need be. I wouldn't recommend forgoing USA earning potential just to chase brown pussy. at least not for more than 2-3 years

>>2819468 (OP)
>Why do longterm white expats usually avoid other white people in foreign countries
it really depends on the country. in places like Thailand so many long term expats barely know any locals other than people they employee and their partner's family. otherwise you'll usually find them hanging out with other expats.

>>2819468 (OP)
Because at bottom, white men travel overseas/live overseas because they’re excess male losers in their home country and can’t get pussy. No, idc if you’re a six figure remote worker, you came to get your pecker played with, p4p or unpaid pecker arbitrage.

So that being said, as hypocritical as this is, I don’t want to be around bottom-feeders like that. They creep me out.
Thais call us “hungry ghosts” already a stain on your dignity and a shadow over your soul when you decide to leave.

Like look at this guy. He looks fluorescent despite living in pattaya for over a decade. Tropical country with constant sunlight. Why is he ghostly/sickly pale? All these guys who stay there look love that. They look like lifeless wax dolls with hollowed out eyes. Every long term coomer has that “Der coomer” look.

>>2819471
didn't know vatnics now wear tiny hats

>>2819475
God you sound like a faggot, i like telling people about my work

>>2819492
On the money

>>2819550
I mean you kind of sound like the type of person that makes others zone out with your inane takes

>>2819468 (OP)
suicidal empathy

>>2819566
yes, I was in Beijing for a year, and most of the other people there seemed quite nice, apart from a few chuds and old balding english teachers.
However, I speak Chinese, and I'd prefer just to hang out with local friends and people close to me rather than having to take an hour metro to Chaoyang to see expat friends once a week or something
also the women there are usually incredibly boring (either English teachers or trophy wives of businessmen)

>>2819812
Wow you're so much better than everyone. What a conceited twat

>>2819468 (OP)
The sole answer is that for the most part white expats are rejects from their home and want to feel superior. Chatting to a fellow white normally threatens that as they want to gain a sense of superiority by being uniquely accepted and preferring of another ethnic group. Literally the same mental pathway as a fat hambeast being anally fucked out by niggers but in that person as a male.

>>2819817
lol what about my post gave you that impression
I just don't like spending time with fortysomething English teachers who can't speak Chinese and understand nothing about the country while believing that it's their personal disneyland

I'm a balding expat who was failed life at home. I just couldn't keep doing the same thing over and over again so I left. Am I really so bad? I just couldn't keep waging back home, idk what but something was screaming at me to get out.

I teach English and the pay is abysmal but there's no way I'd go back. I just really like life here. I've been learning Khmer for about 2 years now and am pretty decent too.

>>2819503
>some cringe autist
>a desperate sexpat who can only talk about sex
Sounds like typical /trv/ users.

>>2819799
> i like telling people about my work
I do to, however there is a huge difference between the telling people about work and the act of dealing with a dude bro with a Business Admin or Liberal Arts degree begging you to tell him the "secret" to becoming an expat.

If you're not an expat or haven't been one for a decent length of time, it's near impossible to explain. I enjoyed trying to help people become an expat early on but then I noticed all the conversations went the same path. All information is in one ear out the other, it's a waste of time, and talking to someone who has no grasp of what my field is other than 'this can make me money it's just compootah!'.


Again if you're not an expat or haven't been one very long, hell maybe if you're a shut in expat I know a few who do nothing but wake up work->sleep->play vidya->maybe go out on the weekends; the social interactions with these kinds of people specifically is annoying. Again, it's not every conversation some just ask me what I do and move on. It's the dudebro's and stacy's who will not drop the subject and act like you're hiding some simple trick that keeps them from being an expat like you.

>>2819828
Sounds awesome anon, good for you. Haven’t heard a lot of chatter from Cambodian dwellers
>>2819848
Hes doing his own version of my “go fuck yourself” but you sound perfectly reasonable so I can’t co-sign his seethe

>>2819667
> I'm not a retard, how hard is it to break into this lifestyle starting from zero?
As hard as you make it,

Depending on your field of work it might be easy or completely impossible. Some Healthcare/Finance/Gov work can't be done out of state let alone out of the country. Tech is by far the easiest remote work that can be done, but it's dependent on many factors. You'll basically need to find what job field, most importantly you LIKE, and can do.

After getting into said field, you'll most likely need to pull 2-3 years MINIMUM at an office job proving your worth, as you have no experience you need to show you understand the gravity of projects and such. This is where most people get too cushy with a decent paying job or accumulate debt to step up their lifestyle and forget about the traveling since "well I can just do a fun 2 weeks in X" is more appealing. Once you have a resume built you can often forgo raises(in this economy) for WFH, most companies are using WFH as a "bonus" rather than give cash incentives. Once there assuming you can keep up with everything and work isn't cutting your balls off about working abroad; go enjoy it.

The biggest problem will and always will be getting through the first round of jobs to build the experience while keeping your eyes on the expat goal, while also being able to walk away from the job you built up at for what you want and possibly start at a lower level/pay than what you invested 2-3 years in already. I'd say out of the 6 or 7 firends I helped back home only 1 kinda made it into a travel like lifestyle, but really only travels when his company tells him to.

>>2819792
>Like look at this guy. He looks fluorescent despite living in pattaya for over a decade. Tropical country with constant sunlight. Why is he ghostly/sickly pale? All these guys who stay there look love that.
while your overall post is decent, this clause is not why lol.

SEA local culture isn't to bake yourself in the sun at 2pm

take for example, da nang: at 2pm there are only russians and westerners on the beach + low class viets perhaps, but dominated by whites. vietnamese come out like an hour before sunset, still wearing a hoodie.

Through various combinations of hats, hoodies, sunscreen, covers, or just not going outside, people largely hide from the sun and tanning in SEA. saves the a couple hundred pesos of sunscreen or some aging per month I bet.

Anyways, I think the real main reasons are:
1. Guys have huge anxiety
2. trying to appeal to women purely by being a rare, unique white and another one around seemingly ruins that for them. scarcity mentality.
3. low camraderie among whites in general. blacks always acknowledge each other it seems, if not have a full alliance on the spot

>be expat
>know the local places I like that foreigners don't go to
>go there to not pay tourist inflated prices or deal with morons
>eat, drink, or have peace of mind from a long week instead of being asked about what tourist spots are good for the hundredth time
simple as

>>2819475
So basically whites don't help each other, that's your point? Because if this was two Indians, the one with the job would just vouch for the other one and get him the same job and they'd get free money together.

>>2819848
>talking to someone who has no grasp of what my field is other than 'this can make me money it's just compootah!'.
Because that's exactly what it is. Stop smelling your own farts moron.

>>2819934
You would vouch for some random person you meet at a bar with 0 skillset or knowing what they are like? You either overestimate your worth or have none.

>>2819950
Indians would if they met them in a white country, that's my point moron. If you wouldn't, what the fuck are you?

>>2819664
They're grocery store stock boys with no skills, let alone wealth. Of course they're going to reply with incoherent, immature, impotent rage.

>>2819468 (OP)
I think I this is a thing in America too. I don't often see groups of white friends chilling with each other after university.

We see our hobbies, women, and internet usage as more enjoyable than meeting up with other men for coffee or hiking.

I don't watch sports, drink, or eat meat, so what else am I supposed to do with other men I've met after 25yo? There's no bond, and there's no incentive unless you share a hobby or common goal.

If that hobby is travelling, that's cool, but it won't be enough for me to hang out with numbskulls with no work ethic or ambition.

>>2819950
and so whites continue their gay march to non-existence

>>2819950
welcome to 2025 where pajeets infiltrate and ruin anything and everything they touch like locusts

>>2819792
In almost any nonwhite country, paleness signals privilege. Rich/privileged people always veil what they are thinking when they are in public. Their mannerisms when interacting with others are 100% contrived, which is what gives them that "lifeless wax doll" appearance when they do not see any valid reason to engage with their surroundings.

I am White, yes, but I am a sunburned manual laborer. My Third World travel experiences are nothing like those of the pale, pampered whiteoid hedonists.
>>2819819
>leave the West because everyone is a cold, standoffish and fake asshole
>go overseas and be a cold, standoffish and fake asshole
Migrants bring the problems they are trying to escape. Every single time.

>>2819950
Non whites do this. You're just a race traitor

>>2819964
That's how you play the game now. Jews do it, jeets do it, Asians etc

You've been so demoralized as a race you don't even realize it

>>2820005
Not THIS non white.

>>2819953
Why are your standards that of Indians?

Is this a "haha I was merely pretending" bit?

>>2820091
Not something an Indian would ask another Indian so... let me guess, Jew?

Why would I want anything to do with other white people. I've had to waste my youth dealing with these passive-aggressive unfriendly uptight asocial freaks in Canada for too much of my life.

>>2819797
it's not working, David

>>2819492
This is exactly what it is and I’m not above it.

>>2820110
You can go FUCK yourself that’s exactly why I hate seeing other white faggots abroad. I mean I’ll tolerate you, at least you’re not an American ape, but I don’t like you. You probably think you’re the big man around town you fucking dorkus

>>2819797
Rent free

This thread is really an insight into the white mind. Sorry you guys became so cucked.

>>2819492
I don't have social media and I don't interact with anyone. I just go for long walks, train rides, the gym, and eat great food.

t. working remotely from kanagawa for the past month

>>2820156
The crazy is palpable. Let me guess, you‘ve really got it all figured out and those other dweebs are just getting in the way.

>>2819850
Shit. My plan now is to enlist in the service for linguist, and try to turn that into setting up a life where I can travel or expat full time (or as near to that as possible). If that doesn't work? I was going to go merchant Marine and see if I can turn that into remote work as well.

I know I want to be either remote work like you, or self employed altogether. Based on what I've told you so far, are those two paths doable to get into full time travel like you? Or any kind of job where I work overseas and earn USD. Sorry for the questions. I just like information from anyone willing to share it. You'll notice that so far, I didn't "glaze over" or try to mention some tiktok zoomer who makes a living off of being retarded.

Wholly molly, there must be some societal campaign brainwashing all of you to loath wfh chads. Quite sad to think you're all so susceptible to brainwashing, like redditors.

>>2820294
There are no wfh chads. In order to have positioned yourself effectively, you had to have been facefucking your c# textbook in college on the weekends instead of college teens and “studying hard”
Instead of partying hard.

There’s no wfh chads. I’ve never seen a single one. They’re always some iteration of a pale DORK with limited social acumen

>>2820373
CS is a dead field now anyways.

>>2820373
>I’ve never seen a single one.
it's because they're working from home my dude

>>2820156
>>2820373
^^this is the insecurity fagaurd, don't reaply to this man in any serious matter as he is the literal embodiment of the 'crabs in a bucket' mindset.
I hope you're not seething on company time faggot, back to waging you!

>>2820403
I can’t wait to screenshot my next weekly paycheck ^_^ you’re gonna tuck your tail so hard

>>2819526
>If too many whites show up it will turn the nation white
> implying a white nation is a bad thing
dude the entire world is moving to white countries there's clearly something there. personally I find it exhilarating to see so many whites in Tokyo. they are all rather on the sensitive introverted classy side, that's the way it seems, which kind of reminds me of myself so it feels like if I move there I'd be in an inside elite group of white expats with similar interests and desires to mine
I don't mean the clearly fob tourists I mean the random whites walking around by themselves or you see them on the subway

>>2820378
Why do i offers for $300k in a dead field?

>>2820430
We’re not doing this fucking bullshit. Show the fucking job offer. Show your bank balance.

>>2820450
>We’re not doing this fucking bullshit. Show the fucking job offer. Show your bank balance.
I'm worth $1.6M at 32. Could have been better or worse. Not saying it's easy, as I was disciplined with top 2% intelligence. the field simply isn't dead if you're high IQ and/or not a newfag. I was also always willing to move for the career until I went remote.

tons of totally mid people, literal thirdies, normie women, blacks, etc flooded CS. that's going to make up a lot of the unemployment. people thought they could just stumble in and collect. the field is very competitive, but not dead

>>2820457
Respect and thanks for the receipts. Enjoy your hard work and wealth

>>2820457
Alright, give me a remote bullshit job for $60k then.

>>2820485
Honestly, same. Id pay 10k to be given a remote job, even if it was 40k salary. But only if it’s guaranteed

>>2819475
I'll add to this. If you are traveling away from the west as a white person, it's because you don't like the culture for one reason or another. So it is fucking annoying and grating to be somewhere else, then to have some bumbling white faggot there talking about politics or social shit back home (or heaven forbid tv shows or sports or whatever useless stuff). The majority of travelers are homesick for some reason, and they will latch on to you for some "comfort" if you let them.

I have an example. I was traveling in Hanoi with a friend of mine, and the guy matches the ONE liberal white women in the whole fucking city (he doesn't like asian women for whatever reason). He says we should grab drinks with her, I say I'm not interested because see above reasons. He gets angry and says I just don't want to hang out with him or something. I say I didn't come all the way to Hanoi to spend time with some ugly white woman on tinder.. He gets angry enough to almost hit me.

Travel does shit to people

>>2819468 (OP)
because whites are insufferable assholes

I get tired of whites asking me how old my girlfriends are and making a big deal about them being under 18. FUCK OFF!

>>2820485
>Alright, give me a remote bullshit job for $60k then.
what makes you think the job is BS?
It's a 7 round interview just to get in. we can start with that

>>2820110
Nobody who grew up under the relentless crush of western mass marketing is above it.

>>2820505
I'd pay a first year's salary if I could just retire on a remote bullshit job that's guaranteed. That's how Indians do it (only it's usually just a month's salary but I'm very desperate being white).

>>2820617
Because it's just a $60k remote bullshit job? Obviously you are a highly valued member of society sahib, I would not presume to tread in your footsteps and demand a high salary such as yours, I merely wish to become your digital foot slave, a janitor behind the keyboard if you will.

I’m not even in tech. I’m a regular ass mechanical engineer designing plumbing and air conditioning systems and I work remote.

I did the international thing for a while but it’s too fucking shitty have to be on meetings at 2 am because of the time difference. My sleep and work schedule were all kinds of fucked. So, it’s not enough to have a remote job, but also a remote job that is completely hands off in terms of interaction with other people in real time. There are plenty of remote jobs, shit the US government is full of them. What you guys are after is the remote job that lets you live in Thailand and not have to actually talk to anyone except through email and that’s rough.

>>2820662
>>I did the international thing for a while but it’s too fucking shitty have to be on meetings at 2 am because of the time difference. My sleep and work schedule were all kinds of fucked. So, it’s not enough to have a remote job, but also a remote job that is completely hands off in terms of interaction with other people in real time.
That's your problem dude, you're a pussy. I don't care about a fucking sleep schedule if I'm living in a big city that's awake 24/7.

>>2820662
>I did the international thing for a while but it’s too fucking shitty have to be on meetings at 2 am because of the time difference.
I did this for 3yr lel
key to make it less shit was to be consistent. slept mostly 7am -> 3pm on avg.

get right outside to get some sun and have evenings wide open for socializing/dating/etc

still much better to be a day schedule ultimately, but being consistent helped.
>What you guys are after is the remote job that lets you live in Thailand and not have to actually talk to anyone except through email and that’s rough.
Hence, the "digital nomad scam content creator" archetype that focuses on creating romanticized content by day in SEA. "Retire in 3 years with ZERO dollars by moving to Da Nang!" (just doom your children to no opportunity or be an indefinite bachelor alcoholic)

that or someone needs to setup a full biz/agency that they can remotely manage at reasonable hours. difficult to setup.

or an indie software product built on ones own hours.

asia academia could be another potential route.

or remote Australia/singapore/japan work.

>>2820664
>I don't care about a fucking sleep schedule if I'm living in a big city that's awake 24/7.
which city are you thinking of?
Most, outside of a few in the world, go to freakin' sleep. Even bangkok is low key a very sleepy city on avg.

how do I become a permanent expat in NIPPON?
I don't see any way to get a legitimate visa.

I already work remote, but from my parents' basement

>>2820666
Then what's the point of living an international expat life if you're not in a city where you can go grab a kebab at 3AM and listen to some street music and go into an art gallery and find people to talk to or whatever?

>>2820665
>"Retire in 3 years with ZERO dollars by moving to Da Nang!" (just doom your children to no opportunity or be an indefinite bachelor alcoholic)
That's fine, I don't have or want any children, so how do I do this?

>>2820664
I don’t have a do nothing job faggot and you know jack shit about how these positions are. The trade off from being fully remote in most jobs, and this is an unspoken rule, is that you are always at work. Meaning, you can’t be drunk off your ass with some SEA monkey jabbering in the background when you are on a last minute (by US time standards) teams meeting where you have to have your camera on and talking to a client.

>>2820670
This allows me to rest easy knowing dorks can’t even arbitrage their salary because they’re nightcucks

>>2820726
>He will not rest easy untill het can come up with cope about how the rest of us are as miserable as him.
You are in the top 10th percentile of losers on this board, faggaurd.

>>2820673
Ok? I'm already at home all day, what's the problem? You normalfags are disgusting as fuck.

>>2820823
Snarker has a point. Stand down, gentlemen

>>2820664
>>2820666
I was shocked how sleepy of a city Tokyo is, despite its good reputation. I spent 2 years there and was really disappointed with how early everything closes down except for few very small designated areas. It's just a completely different vibe that you get in a city like Seoul or Bangkok, where it just feels alive. I guess Japan is too geriatric now...