Why does Kris hate him so much? He's fantastic. It makes me wish I could go back to the days of when a TV was the centerpiece of a home and people gathered around it to watch shows together.

What are the best things to do to make Kris' life miserable for this?

Kris is a kid

Did anyone else struggle more getting S rank on Susiezzilla than fighting the Knight?

>>712428847
Asgore did nothing wrong

>>712429587
Asgore is a better dad than Toriel is a Mom

>>712431608
As far as we know
Asgore probably pulled some crazy shit that made Toriel mad at him
I just wonder what it was, probably revealed in Chapter 5

>>712427714 (OP)
Because he reminds him of a time that's never coming back

>>712427714 (OP)
>it's normal for couples to fight, tell 'em Kris!

>>712428694
I can't get T rank on it despite getting 795 points, I'm not sure if it's possible or not.

Will Assgore be vindicated in 5 or will he make more thorns

What other mini games woyluld you have liked to be saw?

Susie and the recruited darkners will protect us from Kris and Ralsei banishing us

Noelle and Susie will be the failure route where the prophecy gets fulfilled, because Kris will end up going through with his grand betrayal with the knight without a strong bond with Susie. Meanwhile if during the festival you get Kris and Susie together while sidelining Noelle, Kris will change his allegiances. Screencap this.

>its a beautiful day outside

>>712434473
Shoulda gotten 5 more.

How come Ralsei gets to keep HIS Fountain? huh? Ever thought about that?

>>712428030
out of 10

>>712434473
>795
Jesus I could only get 530 how did you achieve that?
If 700+ points didn't give you S then it's most likely not possible, has anyone checked the code?

>>712435027
Because it's all part of the plan
What is the plan? Fuck if I know

>>712431756
>Asgore did some crazy shit

>>712431756
whatever it was, is unlikely to be a huge deal sjnce no one else in town holds it against him

>>712435121
kek

>>712434784
>Ocean of ink
There’s that ocean again

>>712434757
Toriel was brought down hard and she was really the only one giving him a hard time, everyone else in town like him or at least are sympathetic to his plight. I feel like he's going to get a major W soon.

>>712427714 (OP)
Ant Tenna is probably my favorite design from Deltarune/Undertale. The way the letters TV form the face plus the puns really get me, feels like a motw that PLEX would design for one of their toku

What if Asgore didn't even do anything wrong and Toriel is just a massive bitch who puts her own feelings before the happiness of her family

what makes you react like this

>>712435360
It can't be just that since Asgore also lost his job but Toriel is indeed a bitch since she hate Dess and it's very likely that Asgore did nothing wrong and it's all a misunderstanding

I can fix her.

>>712435440
extreme cringe

>>712435440
Shame. And being used to seeing your parents being a mess.

>>712435480
Maybe it was simply an accident
That's why no one in town holds a grudge against him... expect for Toriel who blames the shit out of him

>>712435440
I related to this scene way too hard because my mother was shitfaced winemom as well and would often embarrass me in front of friends

>>712435440
Your best friend seeing the bad side of your family after how much of a good impression they did earlier, completely shattering her initial expectations and worrying how your friend will see you now
I just realized how much I projected while writing this paragraph jfc

>>712428030
he's about to go to college

reminder to check stuff in Noelle's house when your alone since some stuff is different, here's noelle's computer which has multiple things - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoflUEjTiyY

>>712435587
>expect
I'm having a stroke
>EXCEPT

>>712435440
she related to kris too much and couldn't handle it

>>712435665
Thanks for sharing I didn't do this in my playthrough, I'm surprised by how much stuff I missed despite feeling that I played in a very thorough way

>>712431756

>>712435440
I wonder why people fixate so much on Mom NTR and not on her alcoholism? Am I the only one here with an alcoholic mother?
She just had the gall to call me while drunk and ask me to wire her some money. The sum she asked was just enough to buy another bottle even.

>>712435665
Fuck man I need to replay this part on the normal route, there's a bunch of shit like this I missed

You guys see this dialogue during the church section?

>>712435813
where was this?

>>712435665
You think someone would have finished chapter 4 and not come to the conclusion Dess is missing?
It’s obvious to anyone with a double digit iq but never directly stated

>>712435789
because mom NTR is the funny meme for porn addicts (90% of /v/)

>>712435440
when my mom's drunk again and cavorting with that stupid convenience store guy that whoever owns my soul seems to know intimately well
>>712435587
Dess disappearing defied all logical/known explanation (a dark world, probably), and Toriel, having an autistic obsession/"love" for the children of the town, probably took Asgore's failure extremely personally and him blaming it on being a supernatural crime disgusted her (even if it's true). the town doesn't believe him (apart from Carol, who probably knows more than Asgore does and intentionally keeps him in the dark/strings him along), but it's only Toriel (and maybe Carol) that still resents Asgore for his failure

>>712435813
No? How do you trigger this?

>>712435783
Oh shidd

>>712435813
I am not envying Asriel. She's gonna bully him HARD. Wait, what the fuck am I talking about? GIWTWM!

>>712435813
i can see where kris gets his flirting powers from (if not (Us)/frisk-by-proxy)

>>712435789
mom ntr fits the situation perfectly so people shitpost about it

>>712435813
my FVARKING bbWARRIOR

>>712435665
>has a screensaver of Kris
Um is this really something a forced childhood friend does…?

>>712435813
How the fuck is he such a massive dork? I love him.

>>712435937
catty is the cat not the alligator
she's not that bad as far as i remember

>>712435665
>more proof that Noelle lied to Susie

>>712435813
First time I see this, when can you do this?

>>712435813
Asriel is going to come back from uni Flowey pilled, he’s going to be super cynical and unrecognisable to Kris

>>712436169
>she's not that bad as far as i remember
Did you see the sermon and her post-sermon dialog? Even I can't stomach this much retardation

Does anyone else think it's kind of interesting that Deltarune asserts some kind of panpsychism?
>In philosophy of mind, panpsychism is the view that the mind or a mind-like aspect is a fundamental and ubiquitous feature of reality.
>It is also described as a theory that "the mind is a fundamental feature of the world which exists throughout the universe".
The fact that the Darkners have awareness of things that happen in the Light World implies they are imbued with an inherent consciousness.

>>712435813
This must have been after Dess dissapeared.

>>712435665
this
HAS
to be snowdin isn't it

>>712436212
You have to be mentally retarded to not realize she was lying to Susie

>>712435813
Jesus Christ, he really is a dork.

>>712436169
she comes from a trashy family. made a huge scene and got kicked out of prom

>>712436169
I'm talking about Susie. Look at her face and say this isn't a face of a bully shark that smelled a drop of nerd's blood in the water. IIRC, she made the same face when she looked into his room at Queen's mansion and when she saw a glimps of "How to Draw Dragons" book at Kris' house. He better watch his back now.

Kris MUST touch tummy! It's in the prophecy!~

>>712435813
Susie is gonna bully the fuck out of this loser goat when he comes back

>>712436358
bad as in an evil repugnant person not just annoying

>>712436397
i can fix her
she can't do anything bad if i fatten her up to immobility

>>712435813
Okay so NONE of us found this so where the fuck is it?

>>712436358
Retarded but earnest is far better than spiteful bitch out to hurt people.

The knight is a darkner with Dess's soul

>>712436675
I think the Knight is Dess who absorbed Kris' soul. That's why she is so weird AND strong.

>>712435440
Works better in motion

>adobe photoshop is canon in the deltarune universe

>>712435440
>Come home after searching for Mum after she vanished
>Susie helped the ENTIRE TIME
>Open door and see mum absolutely sloshed and dancing with the midget skeleton that keeps insulting you
>Feel shame because Susie is also there
>Susie is shocked and a bit disgusted
>She can't take it and leaves
My aunt is always like this. She's a drunk and these scene feels like a fucking mirror.

>>712427714 (OP)
>Deltatraveler absolutely BTFO in every aspect
Everyone knew it was coming but it's still hilarious

>>712436857
As tragic as it is, it's nice that even their second-hand embarrassment is synchronized.

>>712436857
The reaction makes me think she's done this before

>>712436916
Yeah, who cares about that greedy bitch, I prefer this guy anyway.

>>712436916
>Photoshop Ralsei
>Photoshop Asriel
>Photoshop Flowey

bros...

Are there any interesting uses for the phone? For the most part it feels woefully underused.

>>712436857
>Kris looking down before looking away
Brutal.

Kriselle bros how we feeling?

I thought this section was a little out of character for Toby

>>712427714 (OP)
>nobody's pointed it out yet
If you haven't finished the Secret Game, Kris only does half damage to Tenna. It is only when he does, and Tenna basically snitches to the player that he set this all up, that he gets angry as fuck and does up to five times damage.

>>712437115
coping as usual

Also some possible Snowgrave spoilers: there are videos experimenting to see what enemies can be Frozen and what can't, and, well, pic related can happen.

Bosses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKgY7LaqX8w

Darkners: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxATfiB7sqI - the WaterCooler actually takes 2 Snowgraves, do NOT fuck with it

>>712437070
toby got rid of the contacts so he wouldnt have to write more stuff

>>712436857
>>712436940
only someone that has gone through that experience could write a scene like this

>>712437070
It's a plot point that Kris deleted your contacts. I don't remember if you learn this mandatory or if you need to check your phone immediately after leaving the Holiday estate. But Kris deletes their contacts and call history every time they take you out.

>>712437070
It's a holdover from UT
It gets even more useless because Ch3 is all Dark World and Ch4 the phone gets wiped.

>>712437139
Why would I attack tenna? I want to spare him

>>712437070
You get some unique dialog with Toriel if you call it at various points
Also Sans will give you his phone number in Chapter 1 and basically calls you a gay nigger retard baby

>>712437131
fuck you

jesus christ am i going to have to restart chapter three to get this fucking egg because i threw the block in the wrong place

>>712435813
Is this real? I hope it is.

>>712437131
Eat a dick

>>712436857
grim

>>712437131
replied

>>712437281
Don't bother, man. You're probably gonna have to replay it all to get a bunch of stuff you missed next year when CH5 Is about to come out.

>>712434998
I sure hope it's not that.
>>712435091
S rank was considerably below that, I mean T rank. Every round you complete without letting the statue get hit one gives you 99 points, once you can do all rounds perfect it's really easy.

>>712437281
Can't you just ring the bell?

>>712436945
It was always just fanfiction.

>>712437151
There aren't unique sprites for every frozen enemy, the game engine treats an existing sprite instead. So, none of this is indication that this was ever planned for ch3.
That said, apparently there is an unused shadow crystal dialogue of Undyne frozen in a block of ice.

>>712437309
>>712435875
>>712435935
afaik it is if you "search pockets for fun" at church without any dark world items (got rid of ball of junk)

>>712436945
>mentioning it out of nowhere
genuinely rent free

>>712437115
winning BIGLY after all of the reveals

Anybody got the tenna "all that ass" vid?

>>712435665
Kriselle will become canon. Suselle is just a red herring

>>712436857
Pure unfiltered embarassement

>>712436857
>force to defeat your teammates in order to move forward with the plan
>forced to rape your childhood friend after you reassured her that everything would be OK
>your Milf co-conspirator is seemingly hitting on the spirit possessing you
>your best friend is seemingly prophesied to die
>forced to bite his own hand to the point of bruising in order to not make your best friend feel terrible for opening up to you
>have to fight a giant incomprehensible monster because your best friend taunted your co-conspirator
>get home to find your drunken mom humiliate you in front of your best friend
>she then has loud sex with the annoying guy that never let's you into his convenience store
>you then receive a call to find out your childhood friend is even more mindbroken that you initially realized
I've made Kris' life pure suffering

>>712437492
Deltatraveler's biggest haters are also its biggest fans

So, what was your reaction when Knight appeared and you saw antlers?

>>712436857
POV: you walk in on your divorced whore mom failing as a parent (again)

>>712427714 (OP)
I miss good tv

>>712437573
Thank god it’s not papyrus

>>712437528
legit got me laughing out loud, I 100% see my soul having a "n°1 Berdly fan" T-shirt now

>>712437151

>>712427714 (OP)
Literally all Tenna does is talk about how much better Kris's life used to be. Most people don't like being reminded how their life is now much worse and that they are unhappy and that things actually can't go back to how they used to be.

>>712437131
Now now, why would you say that to the game show host?

>>712437406
no, i'm on the other side of the puzzle

>>712437584

>>712437687
Buble

>>712436857
>noticing 'em looking at each other before they notice toriel and sans
i'm starting to become one of those autistic shippers who goes insane just from seeing characters be close to each other

>>712437545
embarassement + disgust

>>712437740

>>712437234
You can finish the fight faster by attacking it.

>>712427714 (OP)
Reminds him of the bad times.

>>712437740
FUCK. motherfucker I guess I deserve that

Asgore bought ICE-E's. It's been his dream for years but Toriel thought it was a stupid idea and this interaction played into the reasons for the divorce.
Carol is backing Asgore financially.
>The things coming out of the pipes are ICE-E heads
>Level 5 in Dragon Blazers is the Ice Palace
>Asgore implied whatever he's working with Carol on is soon going to come to fruition
>ICE-E's is currently closed while they remodel/change the sign

This is another Kris eating the pie with the knife thing.

>>712437573
>That design is pretty cool
>Dess? Actually an interesting choice

>>712436945
Go back to to the vrpg thread if you want to complain about deltatraveler

Remember to trust Kris and the Knights plan

>>712435783
Spamton basement was also covered in vines

>>712437573
>Thought Kris was the Knight because of Tenna
>Random fuck shows up
>Roaring Knight with antlers.
>Wtf a impostor?
>Realize it's the actual Knight.
Bamboozled, but also sad Mother 3 parallel theorists basically won.

>>712437964
I'm not an autistic speedrunner, I will do the right thing even if it is slower.

How do I beat him?

>>712438159
Games too easy if you start butchering people anyway

>>712438109
I trusted Ralsei and I wasn't wrong. I can do this again.

>>712437281
nah, you can go back to Nowhere whenever so long as you haven't already gotten what you need from there.

>>712438203
What fangame is this? Either way the way it usually goes with Deltarune and Undertale is to git gud and learn the patterns

>>712437139
>Tenna basically snitches to the player that he set this all up,
aw jeez if only Tenna hadn't said that then I wouldn't have known Kris had created the dark fountain

>>712438249
Nice theory anon

>>712435813
thought this could've been fake, but it seems to be real according to the text dump.
https://hushbugger.github.io/deltarune/text/#en:4:obj_ch4_PDC03_slash_Step_0_gml_805_0

>>712436358
but her being a chubby cute retard is cute...

I'm going to save him

>>712438373
No, anon, I mean that the entirety of chapter 3 was literally just Tenna occupying Susie and Ralsei while they waited for the Knight to arrive and take Toriel and Undyne. That's it. Kris was in on the plan, too.

how how did kris become a good flirt? It didn't come from asgore that's for sure.

Honestly Lacus still hasn't been surpassed. Why can't modern Gundam shows have attractive women in them?

>>712437743
can't you GO BACK FIRST and then ring the bell there

>>712438660
Could (You) resist some androgynous twink mumbling something and striking a pose?

>>712438660
see >>712435813
monsters (and darkners) have very low standards

Since the goal in 3 was to have the Knight kidnap Toriel or Undyne, does that mean Noelle and Berdley would have been kidnapped by the Knight in chapter 2 or was the fountain in the library not part of the plan?

>>712437778
Feels good, huh?
Why contain it?

>>712438486
>Must've been hard always being the cooler one, huh, Kris?
Is this right after or another dialog?

What route pulls the "creepypasta but real" aesthetic better, Genocide or Snowgrave?

>>712438660
it's a human thing

can you actually get dual heal in chapter 3 or is that an hoax?

>>712438586
I still think Kris changed up the plan slightly. He didn't want Toriel to be taken. That's why he slashed the tires so Undyne would come by instead.

>>712437131
Susie you fat retard

>>712437131
faggot

>>712438486
Oh shit, I was wondering what TechAxe is supposed to be. Turns out it's an electric toothbrush, not Alphys' vibrator after all.

Anyway, I was wondering what that letter was doing in her pocket, but then I realized she was wearing Asriel's jacket.

>Kris scrambles to shut the drawer with the Dragon Ecchi How-to-Draw book if you open it while Susie is over
So, she’s 100% his type, right? Asriel checked that book out because his lil’ brother wanted to look at all the big scalie boobas? She’s his dream girl? And that’s why losing her is gonna hurt so damn much

>>712438776
the library fountain was made to get noelle into the dark worlds
assuming the knight could predict the future and knew that they would be going to the computer lab
also the first fountain was made to get susie and kris in the dark world
because the knight knew that they would be going in there for chalk
oh actually because alphys knew and is working with the knight
and the entire town is working with the knight except for susie
the prophecy said so!

>>712437573
>So, what was your reaction when Knight appeared and you saw antlers?
HOTTIE

>>712438576
Imagine forcibly dragging him out of castle town as he sobs and begs (because he knows what (you) are going to do). And then taking the red hornband he becomes and submerging it in a plastic bowl filled with hydrochloric acid. And, once it has significantly burned and deteriorated, tossing it back into the dark world and watching as Ralsei screams in pain and terror now that he's burned and blinded

>>712438810
genocide

>>712438810
Snowgrave because the conditions are much more esoteric and specific.

>>712437115
Feeling like a big shot, honestly

>>712438827
>I still think Kris changed up the plan slightly. He didn't want Toriel to be taken.
So then why would he still keep up the charade with Tenna? He absolutely did want Toriel to be taken. He was holding back even when the Knight was about to do it. In fact, even if you beat the Knight ahd Susie and Rals get SWOONED (which many believe was something Kris himself did) he does nothing

Sorry, but Kris was willing to sacrifice his mom to enact THE HEAVEN PLAN

>>712438660
It's from the SOUL. Which is Frisk's.

>>712427714 (OP)
He was putting his private stuff on blast (not maliciously but still) and he hated hearing it. May have also been involved in whatever happened with Asgore or was a part of the scene as it was unplugged for awhile it seems prior to chapter 1

Unused rooms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uae7eh-Jd-Y

Apparently the debug rock concert and piano could be used by fans to make their own content, personally I'm interested in what Toby was planning with the train puzzle, there are 2 and the 2nd one seems to be in the Holiday House since the santa dolls are tied to the tracks and ran over by the train

>>712438891
Dess has a drawing of a dragon on her room too, which I'd presume was from Azzy.
Everyone in Hometown wants to fuck a reptile (not Alphys)

>>712438795
right after

>>712438810
The Mantle game. There are no negative effects for doing it but the whole experience is still very uncomfortable to watch.

Lol. Lmao even. Definitely written from experience

>>712438943
man... you have problems, dude

>>712438810
>and then the screen TINTED RED and all my dialogue options disappeared!

I hope we get to convey to Kris information about Undertale somehow.

I don't understand how this is even a debate when we've had this since chapter 1.

is delta rune an under tale demake?

>>712438810
Genocide by default
What sort of half-baked creepypasta doesn't involve the game becoming sentient and killing (You) at the end?

>>712438810
Snowgrave

>>712438249
I don't trust Ralsei because he knows that when Kris closes his eyes, you, the soul, fucks off elsewhere.
Plus, in Chapter 2, when you examine his custom room the Queen made for him, Kris actively keeps his eyes closed, to prevent you from seeing shit.
In Chapter... 4 is it?
If you're doing Snowgrave route, Ralsei says that bringing Noelle to the festival is a bad idea and he looks pretty worried.

Ralsei is not a mastermind by all means but he's deep into it, same as Kris.

Do you think the site for chapter 4 with the red dot will change the more chapters get released?

>>712431756
Might be about losing Dess and the dark worlds. Toriel holds the event against him and thinks he is insane about searching "imaginary dark worlds" which is what she is referring to about his "weird hobby" or whatever she meant. Meanwhile Carol is helping him out because she is actually in the know of the dark worlds but is manipulating him towards some extreme plot because she is crazy (possibly due to another (You)/Chara roaming about)

>>712439218
It's a spin-off, no real relation to the story other than having a few of the same characters.

>>712439192
That was Asriel body spray

>tfw just realized I’ve been following Temmie for years
I guess I never out 1 and 1 together.
They play FFXIV a lot.

The thing is the Knight did the super slow suck for no reason when it just swooped up Undyne easily.

>>712436857
WE WERE THIS CLOSE TO THESE TWO SPENDING A NIGHT TOGETHER BUT NOOOOO SANS DECIDED TO GET KRIS'S WHORE OF A MOTHER DRUNK SO WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
FUCK YOU SANS UNDERTALE

>>712439192
It's Toriels

>>712439073
Some autist should make a mod that just turns Deltarune Chapter 3 into a standalone rhythm game and add the rest of the OST

>>712439282
:O

>>712439073
I mean seriously how much devtime was put in this unused puzzle

>>712439090
Small town churches tend to be like that to people from said small town.
Hell, just talk to Catti's family at the service. It seems like getting thrown out of that place is nearly impossible

>>712439252
>Ralsei says that bringing Noelle to the festival is a bad idea and he looks pretty worried.
Also worth pointing out that ralsei is noticeably afraid of cold areas or the cold in general. He starts getting agitated the closer kris gets to the ice palace in the zelda game.

>>712438810
I'm going with Snowgrave not only because it's more cryptic but also it involves the "character starts doing fucked up shit" that some creepypastas do, more when it's done to Noelle than Frisk.

>>712438810
They both work, but I lean more towards Snowgrave, mainly because it's very specific requirements. If I had been the first to find it by accident I would have been creeped out.
Plus I think it places more emphasis on the suffering caused by the player on a personal level to the characters.

The thinking of Noelle scene in Snowgrave and the changed ending of chapter 4 floored me
It's pretty sick shit, Kris even collapsed at seeing Noelle "thanking us"

>>712439149
>your mom killed EIGHT children!
>well, it was more of a gross negligence, to be honest
>and actually it was your dad who killed six of them
>Undyne was still a major hottie, though

>>712439469
Another thing is that Ralsei has fire magic but he hides it from us to motive us to act, so he's really the antithesis of Noelle

>>712428694
Absolutely. Fuckin hell.
>>712435121
Lol'd

I really don't understand where Toby is going with Snowgrave. Like why does he even want it in the game? What artistic purpose does it serve? I used to be interested in seeing how it might go, but the laser focus of violating Noelle in ch4 just made me sick to my stomach.

>>712439560
>don't even get me STARTED on your brother

>>712428694
It’s too floaty desu

>visit ralsei in his town
>melancholic music playing the entire time
>dude literally lived in an empty void before I showed up
>only exists because of me
>will die without me
>there's nothing I can do to stop it
>tfw Toby is going to let him die

>>712435665
>wallpaper in her computer
>photos together
>ferris ride
How the fuck weren't the two together?

>>712439469
It's why I can't trust the little fucker.
>ABLOOBLOO I'M SO SOWWY IT'S SO HARD BEING ME
Bitch, fuck off, you're in cahoots with Kris if not the Knight himself.

>>712439259
TV screen never turned on. Toby gave up on ARGs, it seems.

>>712439192
This is Asriel’s and isn't being used.

>>712439641
We did it to hurt Kris, probably

>>712437573
The Knight design reminds me alot of Jack noir for some reason.

>>712438726
turns out i'm a retard and only thought the bell vanished after i finished the puzzle
or maybe it did but comes back so dumbasses like me don't get screwed over

>>712435813
>When Knight/Dess sees this

>>712439641
remember doing both routes will be required for the true ending (the world will reset otherwise because susie wants eternity)

>>712435176
Or Carol covered it up and Asgore, Toriel, and Rudy don’t say anything anout it.

>>712439641
it's cool

>>712439641
I like it because it's edgy and dark
The ability to do extremely fucked up shit is a nice contrast with the rest of the game being sort of "goody two shoes"

>>712435813
>>712438486
FYI: this dialogue can play during the section where Catti is reading, I have no idea what the trigger is but Susie just decides to check the pockets of the jacket, I realise this is a DUDETRUSTME but I'm pretty sure a Streamer caught the scene but I need to check youtube

>>712437740
YOU BASTARD

>>712439569
he finally showed off his fire magic in chapter 4......as an random act. Really wonder why he keeps it under wraps. His physical attacks are weak compared to his magic potential.

>>712439149
>>712439560
>the guy that fucked your mom is suffering in an inescapable hell of being self-aware of being trapped in an infinite timeloop by a small mongolian child

>>712439772
jabroni mike did

>>712437740
IT’S BEEN
10
YEARS
YOU NIGGER

>>712439424
Nah, it was mostly about Toby being Episcopalean himself and Episcopalean church is more or less glorified agnosticism. They do have concept of sin, but confession is "All may, none must, some should".

>>712439694
>Chaos Chaos
何でもできる

>>712436857
>That slight head tilt and pause before looking away

>>712439690
I can't help but worry the knight will come to town and spawn multiple fountains and cause the roaring there.

>>712439745
Just made me think
>The player has the ability to use trance on Noelle
>So does gaster who uses trance on Susie so he doesn’t die and she keeps looping
>Twisted sword is actually for Susie so she snaps out of the loop

>>712439641
Because a good story should be able to invoke feelings and an even better story should give meaning to the things you do.
In a game that prizes giving players options, what good is being a pacifist or a kind person if there are no options to become a disgusting bastard?
You need the option to rape the doe not because it's the right option, but because it makes it all more important when you don't.
And it also shows you how much of a piece of shit Kris is, who would allow their friend to come in contact with a piece of garbage like me, who finds the only entertaining route to be the one where the ThornRing goes to their rightful place.

Kris could've put us in the birdcage and then went to Noelle's house.
He decided not to.
Too bad.

>>712439569
Does Ralsei use fire magic anywhere in the game except the ACT against the incense lizard called "Light Up" which is a joke about the stupid Ralsei weed meme?
Feels weird to tease Ralsei having a dangerous offensive spell with that joke which is amongus-tier IMO.
Why wouldn't he try to use it against the Titan? Ralsei knew that shit was absolutely life-or-death. That makes me question if he can actually even use fire to deal very much damage. He destroyed the Gerson statue with his scarf.

>>712427714 (OP)
>It makes me wish I could go back to the days of when a TV was the centerpiece of a home
Retards like you will then claim to be immune to propaganda unlike those pesky whatever category of people you're currently mad at

>>712439641
I sure wonder what KING OF ERO GAMES Toby is going to do on Snowgrave. Sure wonder.

>>712439906
aww baby kris is so.........cute?

Do you think the 5 dollars diner conversation with Susie in Ch. 4 will be mandatory for a future route? Kind of in the same way that you have to talk to Onionsan to see them in future chapters.

>>712439670
>Hey Kris, you know if your universe’s Asriel’s is into guys? Asking for a friend.

>>712435121
Lmao

>>712439694
I thought this dialog in particular referred to Dess?

>>712439745
that would recontextualize "there's only one ending" pretty well

>>712439641

>>712440081
Him and dess are canon, until she dissapeared

>>712440120
Nope, it was referring to Noelle, Queen is a Noelle item.

>>712440063
I didn't want to take Asriel's money was there any other way to get cash for that?

>>712440143
>I do like raping does
>You get better ideas that way
How did Toby make such a based character?

>>712436857
god this one hits too close to home

>>712431756
>some crazy shit
He quit his 9/5 to be a penniless florist

>>712440187
i haven't found any other items yet, just ten bucks from the dresser, a cactus thorn and a pencil

>>712439641
my best bet on snowgrave's purpose, in a narrative sense, is to turn Noelle to be our vessel replacement in case kris goes full rouge on us

>>712439694

>>712440187
selling the candy to sans

>>712439981
Ralsei's still a sweetheart so I doube he'd want to burn anyone. Only way I'd see him resorting to fire magic would be to counteract Noelle's ice magic or something similar.

>>712440120
Why would it? It makes more sense for it to be Noelle, who is the same age as Kris

>>712439416
Two entire years apparently

>>712440143
careful

>>712440120
Ramb last question just reinforces it's Noelle.

>>712440252
You won't be laughing when those flowers activate in the dark world and Asgore has a personal army

>>712440263
Vessel, huh? That tracks.

>>712439981
No, that's the only time he uses fire magic. I forget when but there's something that said that the dark prince has fire magic.
But yeah it's really weird he didn't use his OP scarf or fire magic against the titan despite complaining to you if you don't attack the titan when his weakness is exposed.

>>712439694
Everyone thought Kris and Noelle would end up together, but then [PLOT] happened, Kris fell into depression and shut himself away, and their friendship fell apart.

>>712439846
> dude who the hell is a mongolia

>>712440187
You can sell the chocolates.

>>712437151
Has anyone tried killing the Titan before Gerson shows up?

>>712440143
>>712440209
He’s knows Kris wants that doe pussy

>>712440063
>Susie goes to Asriel on festival: "Yeah, dude, we stole your money and went to diner, sorry"
>he says "Kris, if it's for friendship..." with the same face as Ralsei in chapter 1

>>712440351
What’s this?

>>712440351
>Snowgravefags will get the Genocide treatment of things going irreparably fucked
Oh boy...

>>712436857
>when three little-8 bit sprites convey more emotion than 4k face scan motion capture animation

So what would happen if Kris just like left (you) trapped somewhere? Why does he need to keep putting (you) back inside him? Does he need (you) to live? Or is it that he is scared if (you) were left to your own devices?

>>712440449
I doubt that will happen.
He already did that with Undertale and as much as I think Toby can be a faggot, he's very original with his ideas, so he wouldn't repeat the same scenario twice.

>>712440430
same scene as the one being replied to, if you answer "down again" when Gerson asks where to now

>>712440512
he at the very least needs you to enter the dark world

>>712440512
>Does he need (you) to live?
Yes

>>712435783
Oh he's creating fountains alright

>>712439641
Anon, Spamton literally TOLD you the point. [Making] [[Hyperlink Blocked]].
It's the only way off this road that the Prophecy has written for you. A road that ends in someone's great suffering, if Ralsei's obvious distress and Susie's frustration over the last portent are any indication.
You want that [Sweet, Sweet] [Freedom Sauce]? Then you need a [Ring] of [Thorns], [Angel].

>>712440063
Azzy would be proud of Kris for taking his money so he and Susie could eat together

>>712438810
Genocide is good up until the ending which is super arbitrary, I like Weird better so far

>>712439641
Narratively it's far more interesting than genocide just for the sake of genocide. The soul clearly has an agenda of some kind on the weird route and noelle is the catalyst for some unknown reason. She's the only one that can kill enemies so far if we ignore the titan spawns in chapter 4.

>>712440512
Why do so many people ask this did NOBODY listen to the phone dialogue
the soul is needed for the plan

Why do people insist that now ch3 and 4 are out that chess theory is "dead"? I don't personally subscribe to it but it's not an insane stretch to say that the Titan in ch4 could be an abstraction of a rook and therefore the final bosses so far have been
King -> Queen -> Knight -> Rook

>>712440187
Just have Susie with you for the encouragement. You can also sell Alphys' candy, but I feel you would need money at the festival to buy ice cream for Ralsei.

>>712440512
If you listen to the knight call in ch4, they vaguely mention that Kris needs the soul in dark worlds. Either because only the human soul can seal fountains, or maybe Kris can't function in the total darkness without a soul.
Just spitballing here, but maybe the Don't Forget lyrics also allude to this, if you don't have that light inside your soul that's shining in the cold, maybe you get overwhelmed and/or controlled by darkness.

>>712439690
I'm baffled by how many people think the final prophecy is anyone but Ralsei dying. Maybe others are included but Ralsei has to be the focus. He's raised basically every single death flag.
>Don't worry about me
>I just want everyone else to be happy
>I'm glad I was able to make friends
>I'm not real so it doesn't matter
All that's missing is the "If I survive, I'm going to..."

>>712440063
I stole Asriel money but didn't go to the diner fuck.
What do they say?

>>712440597
he has a pissing sprite actually.

>>712440748
they just chill and stuff

>>712439690
>tfw Toby is going to let him die
But Susie won't

>>712439641
noelle is the most powerful character in the game. she just doesn't realize it yet

>>712440748
its a whole krusie scene

>>712440512
Kris needs the SOUL in the Dark World, otherwise something bad happens. That's why he doesn't remove it there.

>>712440748
You gotta do it over, anon. It’s one of the best parts of the chapter.

>>712440512

>>712439694
Well, ya see... There's this big ball of FUCK YOU which can crash any relationships beyond belief to most of the time being irreparable called trauma...

>>712440748
>What do they say?
"Krusie confirmed!"
Not really, but close. You can even rub it in the doe's face.

Haha oh wow Kris your back fahaha it's been a while since you were in my house
Hey can you like, go to another room so I can talk to Susie alone? Thanks

>>712440748
Susie says
>Damn Kris, this diner date was really fun, I think I want to date you forever now and I'm no longer interested in lesbian activities. It's a good thing you invited me because otherwise I would DEFINITELY have become a lesbian!
So basically nothing important, don't worry.

>>712440063
It has to be. It's a really cute scene but I hate that I have to steal from asriel to do it.

>>712439906
I keep seeing this specific design. Where does this 'Baby Kris' thing come from?

>>712440781
this means asgore CANONICALLY has a penis

>>712439882
Check, and I just figured out why this happens:

SUSIE REACTS TO WHATEVER YOU HAVE EQUIPED IN THE LIGHT WORLD

On stream he had the mechanical pencil equiped when he checked hi pocket, I've seen another streamer have susie and kris play with tickers

>>712440781
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?

>>712440852
why is Carol able to speak red

>>712440671
They don't know about Jackstein board.

You know why there's a bunker, right? You know why Kris is the only human in town? It's because Deltarune is an alternate universe where Gaster introduced Darkness to the monsters during the Human Monster war in a way to make them win.

>>712440872
>Noelle (your ex-best friend) is actively trying to steal away your new best friend
Yeah, fuck her
Proceed

>>712440597
>>712440781
>dum dee dum
asgored fucking PISSED on the flowers in Undertale

>>712440939
Umineko logic, we're eventually going to obtain the blue truth

>>712440449
I have a hunch that if things play out differently, Susie or maybe Kris will have his existence erased and we'll play as the remainder with Noelle being the replacement

Maybe Deltarune takes place in the MY WORLD that Omega Flowey has 999 hours of playtime in?

>>712440872
Every time she says "fahaha" I want to pinch her cheek and pull it hard

>>712440921
Why does Jabroni Mike always pop up wherever I least expect him

>>712441007
Is that why Flowey wants to kill everyone?
He got pissed on one too many times

>>712440852
Why do people interpret this as Kris dying without the soul? It could easily be meaning Kris will gain full control of his body again which phone person doesn't want

>>712440921
TLDR I think there's a bunch of small changes depending on what you have in your pockets/equiped to Susie and Kris at this time, pic related streamer had susie and kris put stickers on one anther

>>712440964
How did that cause Asgore to go from king of all monsters to countryside hick who runs a failing flowershop

>it's raining somewhere else
>the place where it rained

>>712440872
>it's been a while since you were in my house
Noelle its been 12 hours

>>712440861
Well, Toby did say Deltarune has some similarities to Omori

>>712441176
>in a bad place
I wonder if he puts it on her shirt

Kris deserves all this desu.

>>712441085
I would also get hard as fuck if it's just regular Noelle dancing like this without the giant tits

>Be Dess
>Cooperating with Kris for your big plan
>After all your meticulous efforts you release a Titan, but most importantly allowing Kris to encounter Titan Spawn the only enemies that will allow Kris to grow stronger
>The SOUL fucks it all up by clinging to a presumption of “pacifism” even though Titan Spawn aren’t people
>her face when

>>712441259
you don't know that yet

>>712440861
DIE.

>>712440280
>>712440387
>Implying I didn't eat them with Susie by the lake

>>712440512
The Soul can't escape from the bird cage
>>712440852
Am I crazy for thinking Carol (it makes more sense to me than the Knight) either created the 1st Sanctuary Dark World or otherwise has some way to track the Knight or predict them? Even if it's just following the prophecy.

The doe that was cucked to death.

>>712439641
Game is obviously doomed for a bad end so the player will naturally be looking for any out from this doomed end on a replay.
Then the mantle game shows the way out except it’s into a even worse scenario where all your friends and family die at your hand, where you physically break the world around you to uncover secrets, anything in order to “save” them.
How far will a player go to uncover the world’s secrets? How far will you torture these video game characters on a lesser plane than you the player in the pursuit of knowledge? In the end of the game, you were used up, consumed by your own creation.
Isn’t that interesting?

>Toby released Deltarune during nationwide protests so that his hyper left fanbase would stay inside playing his queer game instead of overthrowing the government or whatever
Delightfully devilish, tricky Tony.

>>712431756
It only made Toriel mad and maybe lost him his job. And Carol is on it with Asgore which is why Toriel's disdain extends to her. Either because Carol supports his nonsense or because Carol holds equal responsibility as Asgore.

Reminder that Ralsei knows the full truth and he's still on Kris's side
There's more going on here

>>712441328
there's genuinely no justification for what he's doing that i'd accept
he's an evil apple man

>>712440852
>>712440512
my take is that soulless kris will turn into a darkner if they enter the dark world

>>712441239
Disappointed that there wasn’t a picnic scene in front of Gerson’s grave.

>>712441369
>Game is obviously doomed for a bad end
Gya-ha-ha!

>>712441391
what the fuck are you talking about, retard

>>712441391
SURVEY PROGRAM was in 2018 though

>>712441359
she was built to suffer

>>712441465
That's exactly it, though. I didn't know about the drama for over a week because I got offline hiding from spoilers.

>>712441473
I WANT KRIS TO DATE NOELLE WITHOUT GOING FUCKING SNOWGRAVE FUCK

>>712439641
the whole point of the route is trying to stray off the path given to (you) by the prophecy. only issue that going such a path requires committing more and more grave acts for the sake of "saving" everyone.

If Kris is Toby's self-insert and he does end up doing Suselle
Does that mean he's into cuckoldry for the sake of yuri fetish?
Wait... Don't answer that.

Asriel comes and, like, one thing leads to another and he and Susie fall in love. Will you be happy for them?

>>712440703
Anon Kris Works the same way as a Golem he has core inside his body If you remove that core the body Will have less than 2 or 3 minutes left to get their soul back or Else they die.

>>712439641
Committing genocide as a concept is tried and true, but manipulating someone else to kill for you is way more interesting

>>712441540
The suffering is necessary to build character and to reignite the relationship. Also Noelle is into it. Trust the plan

>>712441616
if UT was how much evil will you commit for the sake of nothing, DT will be how much evil will you commit for the sake of something

>>712441620
Yes, anon. Toby is Andrew Hussie.

>>712441259
This desu.

>>712440852
I wonder why Kris is referred to in third person for "Without Soul... Kris will..." instead of "You will..."

>>712441540
Patience.

No matter what happens i will make Kris fuck Susie
There is nothing anyone can do about this, Toby included

>>712441616
No, the point of this route is to dip your toe in it for some good ideas, as Gerson said. Namely TwistedSword. Otherwise it will be the route that actually brings the Prophecy to fruititon.

>oh hes your dad? sorry
What did he DO?

>>712440143
I think Gerson's just musing on the idea of taking a scenic route and enjoying yourself instead of soullessly speedrunning from point A to point B.

>>712441660
the knife grows dull

>>712441753
you'll get a new thorn ring from asgore's shop
aborted snowgrave is a meme

>>712439745
>>712439641
So it's kind of like what they did in Monster Girl Quest Paradox where you have to see both routes first before getting access to the true ending?

>>712441405
Ralsei will be the Weird Route final boss that has the Megalovania boss theme and we’ll fight him as our vessel. The little guy smashed a statue crafted by a legendary blacksmith to pieces with a single attack. He’s clearly hiding his true strength.

>>712441540
Just abort in Ch 4. Berdley will be fine and Noelle spends the afternoon confessing to how much she loves and misse s the old Kris.
Straight from the go Kris.
Chop of the soul Kris (not literally)
Set on his goals Kris

>>712441747
It’s two people talking on the phone

>>712441768
They say sorry because they were talking shit about his dad in front of him

>>712437528
Love the pics where the soul is just obsessed with a character and acting like a fanboy. In fact, all the Soul as a person pics are really good.

>>712441768
ran over dess

>>712441797
Both ways will be valid

So do you think the various aborted snowgrave routes will be accounted?
In one we get the ring, in another noelle gets closer to kris but berdly is dead.

>>712441824
Ralsei and Susie vs (You) and Noelle

>>712441540
Trust the plan, Toby is giving more and more hints. People are noticing, the rate of Kriselle fanarts is rising exponentially.

>>712441853
oh it's teamspeak then, gotcha

>>712441683
That's not how Golems work

Can I have a QRD on where the meme of Gaster basically cheering on the player in Deltarune came from?

>>712441873
berdly looks like he can still survive

>>712441768
He fucked the family dog
>They don’t have a-
Not after what Asgore did to it.

I have a feeling no matter what route you take, the ending will be the same
Remember, your choices don't matter
All these different routes you take trying to defy fate, it will all lead to the same conclusion.
In the end, it is inescapable, your actions futile
Minor details will change, but the result will be the same.

>>712441768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJkIjlQ0BCs

>>712441768
The Dremmurs had something to do with Dess disappearing.

>>712441747
two rationalizations: it's a voice chat with at least one other person (implying team Knight contains people outside of Kris and phone caller) or they're saying something like "Kris, you need to..."
basically its written to reveal as little as possible

>>712441768
who says these lines? I want to kill them.

>>712441824
Ralsei with a gun is more formidable than Sans.

>>712441914
The schizo squad voice chat

>>712441972
A cat npc that's outside Asgores shop in chapter 4

>>712440748
>>712440063
https://youtu.be/tMFBkfKWZGQ

>>712441768
>Asgore Root Prophecy keeps getting more fuel

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Who’s the man behind the tree and why did seeing him traumatized Kris so much that he wanted to repress his memory?

>>712441873
Not dead, just in a coma.
You can take care of Berdly and he shows signs of getting better if you swap his towel for something warmer and making sure the room temperature is high
You do want to make sure that Kris promise for Noelle that Berdly will get better pans out, right Anon?

>>712441940
The first time you die, the survey program text appears and basically tells you to try again. The meme is that Gaster is the ine cheering you on in the Game Over screen

>>712441423
Name one bad thing Kris has done

>>712441972
>>712442026
the bottom two are from the milk monster right after the outside of the church scene

>>712437131
Damn it

>>712441940
it's not a meme. He though you had no chance at first but the closer you get to victory in the roaring knight fight the more he'll cheer you on to win.

>>712441683
Snowgrave proves this is wrong. No way Kris walked to the other side of town, carried a completely limp Berdly to the hospital, detoured to Noelle's house, and then went back home to make sure Tenna had his shit together before Susie woke up, in just a few minutes.

>>712441940
He says this if you die on Knight's last attack.

>>712442123
Didn’t have baby making sex with Noelle

>>712442124
>>712441768
I remember missing his dialog the first time because I immediately went to the graveyard after leaving church, what a fucker

I've worked it out.

This is the last panel of the prophecy. It was in our fucking faces, all along.

Kris is possessed by Chara, or something similar. But it's not a demon, it's an angel. Someone like you, someone playing a video game, only they're a massive shit about it.

And what can you possibly do to an entity like that? Violence won't work, the fourth wall is infinitely thick.

You need to get them to go away.

You need to bore them until they give up and leave.

You need to banish the angel's heaven, the reason why it's here in the first place.

You need to get rid of the Dark Worlds. Forever. Without them, it'll eventually fuck off.

Kris builds the distance from Noelle to not get her hurt, Ralsei knows this

>>712441052
>implying Susie isn't already the replacement Dess
>implying Kris isn't already the replacement Vessel

Sans is a absolute nigger.
>works low end job
>chasing single moms
>sex infront of their kids
>raids their fridge
>daterapes a drunk woman
>probably left his original dimension to get milk

>>712442157
He’s just built different

>>712441747
Because Toby is a weeaboo and speaking about someone in third person even though you're talking to them is a thing in Japanese

>>712435440
The thing everyone misses about this scene is how Susie has been gushing to Kris about how great Toriel is, and Kris probably KNEW his mom has serious fucked up flaws. As players we laugh about how funny it is there's fur in every single drain because Toriel is too fucking lazy to clean up after herself, but Kris has to live with that. And we also experienced just like an hour before this how much Susie hates when people don't give her the full story. Kris probably wanted to tell her about Toriel, but he didn't, and as a result Susie got her illusions shattered without any preparation.

>>712442174
this fag's encouraging words were unironically the only reason why I went through with this fight

>>712442113
>>712442148
>>712442174
Ohhh, I forgot the assumption was that the testprogram text is Gaster lol. Yeah okay, I see it now

>>712436212
>>712436384
Lied about what?

>>712442227
>>712442124
>Susie and Kris not bullying and beating the shit out of the spongebob cat retard
Sad!

>>712442289
Maybe third time is the charm.

>>712442294
don't tell me you wouldn't do the same if you were in his shoes, anon

>>712442364
Her being relationship with Kris being forced

>>712442157
That a aborting weird route chapter 4 shows that soulless kris can sprint when necessary

>>712442364
Her feelings for kris

Kris
Fuck your childhood friend's doe pussy
Fucking do it or I'll throw in the Snowgrave route

>>712442391
*pink slippers

>>712442176
That can be easily rectified

Do you think Noelle's pussy has brown fur over it or the white stripe runs through it?

>>712442174
I can't believe people died on the final attack. That's like the second easiest attack to avoid

>>712442276
No, because the prophecy says the only way the WORLDS plural may be saved. The prophecy saves both the light world and dark world.

>>712442512
Based?

>>712442464
look at him go

>>712442072
Maybe, I would need a four saveslot.

>>712442464
How does he even explain this

>>712442381
There might be other souls involved, too. Kris has been doing the cage stuff since before the player's involvement.

>>712442567
TOby also gives you a shitton of leeway to survive with 1 hp

>>712442586
Just a prank bro.

>>712442586
>just a prank bro

>>712442572
Yes. And it will save them both.

The three heroes must seal the fountains. Forever.

The two worlds will never, ever meet again.

>>712442586
"It was just a prank"
Kris spent his life cultivating the prankster persona in order to gaslight others about his future extra-reality shenanigans

>>712435665
Noelle: Kris and I weren't THAT close
Also Noelle: *keeps a picture of Kris for years and puts it as one of her wallpapers*

>>712435813
Catty means going to the dance with Asriel in an earlier chapter does this does track.
I feel like Kris pulled pranks and did other irksome stuff as a way to stand out from his more charismatic brother. Kris feels like a mix of traits associated with both middle siblings and youngest ones.

>>712442567
The issue is that by the time you get there you're probably already with a very spent party. Even if you have the Shadowmantle, at least one of your group will get instakilled by the Swoon effect, and you basically need a ReviveMint (rare item) to get them up again.

>>712437131
eeep

>>712442157
>>712442464
Then why the hell does Kris normally walk like a corpse or with their head tilted down when they're shown walking without the soul in control? They still do this in chapter 4 when Kris is trying to keep the soul caged in the closet. There has to be a reason why Toby presents Kris like this for the most part despite Kris being able to do feats like these.

>>712442675
if the genders were swapped it'd be a really bad look

>>712442567
Once I got past the second hall of swords I beat the fight immediately even with the change up to the moves, the swords are the only utter bullshit in the fight

>>712442586
>quick we need to work on our school projects

https://youtu.be/fKgY7LaqX8w?si=o3Gk3_YEN0fj86uq
>Knight has a frozen sprite
Well, well, well...

>>712442450
>>712442468
Damn, I must've missed something. Was in while you're crawling in the vents or something?

>>712442072
But if we do that, how will we get BERDLY THE UNDYING?

>>712442746
Probably takes a lot of determination to move normally so he shambles to save energy

>>712442746
Kris moves on Determination, in other scenes he just has something he has to go do but in that scene he’s in a state of primal fear for his friend

>>712442705
Kris became what he is because he looked up to Dess. Since he couldn't become a cool rebel punk dude when he was a kid, he just became a little shit instead.

>>712441176
Still browsing youtube, It's confirmed Susie and Kris are having whatever items are currently equiped on them being checked for this specfic scene, also items in the inventory might be checked too - not STORAGE, but what you have on you since I'm pretty sure the stickers are Chapter 1 items most people have

>>712442464
Think about the end of Chapter 2
>Vaulted through the window
>Ran to the library
>Dragged an unconscious Berdley to the hospital
>Vaulted the gate to the Holiday residence
>Apologized to Noelle for the watch, removed the thorn, told her everything will be okay
>Vaulted the gate again
>Returned home
>Slashed the tires
>Vaulted in through the window
And possibly stopped to play piano several times as well

>>712442123
Hit me with a hockey stick

>>712442746
Because Kris is putting up a facade. Look at him walk normally when he doesn't know you're looking at him when he goes to play the piano.

>>712442746
Because they're fuckin' Bill Cipher in a human body.

>>712442854
Pretty sure this happens between ch 3 and 4

>>712442814
>Kris, I would have thought a fellow gamer would understand
>Gamers don’t die, we respawn

>>712440852
what if kris is a double agent? the call talks about kris like hes not even there even if its a conference call. maybe carol/dess think that theyre talking to (You) and not him?
despite kris doing certain stuff to further some agenda he's also made strides against it.
>slashes the tires so the knight takes undyne instead of toriel
>clearly makes no attempt to get the guitar away from susie, too busy chugging choccy milk
>carol says (You) are welcome any time and has no issue with snowgrave shenanigans
>kris constantly sabotaging our efforts to gain plot knowledge, but doesnt stop susie at all
also fuck the tranny janny for warning me for posting in on-topic threads

>>712442751
for me it's the fucking box slash attack once it starts going in every direction and the teleporting swords while inside the small circle.

RingRoute PrankingRoute

>>712442854
>Dragged an unconscious Berdley to the hospital
He did that right after they left the dark world, though.

>>712442842
What kinda items can you even pick up? The only thing I've noticed was the pencil in Ch4.

>>712442874
Doesn’t Toriel also mention someone shambling around outside? And Noelle mentions how weak Kris’ voice sounded

>>712442854
>Vaulted the gate to the Holiday residence
Carol saying Kris is welcome any time etc

>>712442043
>>712442043
>>712442043
Suselle fags will pretend this means nothing.

https://poal.me/jr03bb

>>712442808
In the cuck closet

>>712442854
imagine how stinky and sweaty kris is after coming back

>>712442994
They left him there for half a day

>>712443003
>>712442842
See here>>712438886

>>712442842
Damn I let Kris sleep through church (it’s fake and gay)

>>712443035
susellefags rejoice when noelle and susie get a scene together even though they spent most of it talking about
>noelle's relationship with kris in the past
>how good kris is at flirting
not to mention susie wishing kris were there with them

leaking this from Toby's discord since nobody will believe me

Toriel and Asgore got a divorce because of Asgore's reckless eating habit. That's it. That's what Carol is supporting that Toriel disapproves of.

>>712443025
Doesn’t Noelle mention he knows how to break in

>>712442801
the frozen sprites aren't unique they're just generic hurt sprites recolored by the engine

>>712437131
Penus

>>712443035
Remember that Ferris wheel rides mean nothing if they are forced. Every good Krusie scene is completely optional. And so is every Kriselle scene

>>712443109
Ah. I gotta go back and watch that scene. I guess I was too focused on doing the puzzle

>>712442043
>I missed this scene in my playthrough

>>712443191
NEGLECTFUL FATPHOBIC TORIEL

>>712442967
My take is that Kris is in on whatever the plan is, but also has limits and things he's just not willing to go through/allow, particularly where it refers to harming people.

And my theory is that whatever it is that happened with Dess and broke Kris and Noelle apart, he feels responsible about it, and this is all his attempt to make it right. But it passes through collaborating with Carol, etc. and they actually have ulterior motives that Kris at first thought were either an acceptable compromise or didn't really care about at all, but now he does.

>>712443184
but muh cute lesbeans together and susie defeating the evil homophobe mom!!

>>712435665
Then why say her friendship with kris is forced?

I'm confused, who's side is he on?

>>712436370
There is a distant house in Snowdin afterall...

>>712438810
Snowgrave feels like an actual creepypasta
>Very specific and weird requirements
>Game becomes silent and eerie
>Feels like you're doing something very unintended

Genocide feels a bit too in your face and the constant grinding is annoying.

>>712443250
>And so is every Kriselle scene
Not really, Chapter 2 has a lot that you can't skip on

>>712443358
Whichever side will prevent these dumb animal characters from having a bad ending.

>>712443358
His side

>>712443358
You. He wants to make a new future. With you.

>>712443358
(You)rs

>>712443358
funi

>shipfags arguing with each other

>me, a patrician, with dozens of saves for every possible route, seeing every possible future, and making sure every possible ship becomes true:

Woodybros... How we feeling?

What’s their endgame?

>>712435121
powerful

>>712442072
>spoiler
that's Kris' promise, not (Me)

>>712443490
Noelle got a friend inside her alright.

>>712443423
Yeah, but their button walk wasn't really about Kriselle, it was about Dess. Meanwhile their best scene together at forcefield is completely optional.

>>712443358
(you)r side
the real question is who else is on (you)r side

>>712443487
you can only have 3 saves, you bitch

>>712443490
The friend inside me died

What's his secret??

>>712443230
However, this does reveal the Knight has a hurt sprite, which does not appear in the normal fight.

full closet conversation
interesting what catches kris's attention

>>712437131
...

>>712443587
no job

Just finished chapter 4, it was pretty good. Chapter 3 and 4 really made Susie a genuinely good character. Also the story telling got a lot better and less autistic. Not that i expect this from deltarune obviously, it has to be autistic/toby fox/undertale-ish but it is good that chapter 4 was THE chapter to be serious for a moment.
For example, that scene where Susie screams at Ralsei for not telling them everything and ralsei being like crying and scared saying "im sorry, i know things but..." was genuinely pretty sad. It feels like a cutscene JUST for the people that think Ralsei is evil

Is there really a reason to bother with weird route? i already know what happens overrall

>>712437131
BOO

>>712443590
It’d be funny if there’s actually a bunch of knights and it becomes a normal enemy later

Kris and Susie should've had louder sex to assert their dominance over Sans and Toriel

https://youtu.be/tP0R-23XPHo?si=Usyvj2UU6wfEZ9t5

>>712443490
I feel like if chapter 5 is going to be in Asgore's flower shop, Toby is going to reference Asgore's favourite cancelled Cowboy show, but I doubt we'd get a woody boss fight.

>>712442071
Gaster is just that scary.

>>712443604
>happily chatting about ralsei and kris
>noelle tries to bring up something about susie
>susie immediately shuts the conversation down
oh no no no susiellesisters...

>>712443604
>Kris costume had flames

AIEEEEEEEEEE MY INFERNO

>>712443562
>he can't into windows file explorer

>>712443604
Record the scene with Kris reactions, please.
It's the best part.

>>712443709
>Kris and Susie should've had louder sex to assert their dominance over Sans and Toriel
I totally understand why she didn't do it, but I would've liked if Susie just pulled Kris away with her.

>>712442174
Always knew he was /our guy/.

>>712443750
It'll be a bonus fight like Mike

https://youtu.be/uae7eh-Jd-Y

I still believe that the game Will end with the castle town being sealed and Susie and Kris having their memory erased.

>>712442071
Man behind the tree is the doctor that Kris saw at an art club that people go to so they stop killing people.

>>712443772
no susie's coaster had flames

>>712443604
>immediately stops listening/reacting after hearing Noelle say she can’t remember how she felt
Fuck

>>712442294
Are niggers pedos, too?

>>712443772
no susie's coaster had flames on it

>>712443845
Dogshit hack fraud writing, I will find Toby and deflower him myself if this happens

>>712443761
It's the tail. Susie specifically told her not to bring up the tail. If Noelle actually listened and brought up Susiezilla instead, she might have had a chance to go down Susie route. But Noelle never listens to what Susie says.

chapter 5 WILL have a force feeding Asgore until he gains another 500 pounds minigame and WE will be playing it

Susie and Kris fit well together but would be ruined by romance, Susie clearly doesn't understand it
Noelle doesn't understand Susie and only likes it at her worst, and again, even on the normal route they don't fit that well together. They could definitely be friends though, they actually talk to each other as long as you don't snowgrave
Noelle and Kris are childhood friend with many close memories. Noelle said Kris and Rudy are the only two people she can say no too. Dess was clearly a bit influence in both of their lives. He used to play the piano for her, but was too shy to do it with her in the room. Her cactus is named after him, she has pictures of him on her wall, an a screensaver of him (the rest are her family and one generic picture). Kris visits her at night after chapter 2 just to apologise and hand her back her watch in probably the most notable moment of independant action he has in the game so far and gives her advice to keep her safe. If you wait for them to finish you see Noelle almost confessing to him there on the spot. And if Kris sees his soul he runs out of the room with her in one of his most emotive spirtes, showing genuine fear that you would hurt her. If you equip the ring to her he almost kills himself in the process just to hurt you, leaving himself half alive. If you see Noelle during the dark world and catch a glimpse of her "thanking you" he collapses on the spot. He also destroys the candles out of anger if (You) try to light one for Noelle. When he gets called by Carol at the end of the snowgrave chapter 4 he has a strong reaction to (You) getting access to Noelle again.
There has never been a single independant moment where Kris has ever done anything bad to Noelle and he makes a great effort to help her if we ever hurt her. Makes you think

>>712443884
>>712443930
oops my bad, apology, fellas

>>712443673
>JUST for the people that think Ralsei is evil
like me

>>712437131
DICKHEAD

>>712443604
>"Sounds, fun."
>Kris blushes at that

>>712443950
I shudder to think what would happen if Noelle had determination

>>712439694
how am i just realizing queen and king are stand ins for toriel and asgore

>>712443973
>There has never been a single independant moment where Kris has ever done anything bad to Noelle
Well, you have to define "bad". She likes the thrill of being scared and pranked by him, but I feel like he doesn't wants to prank her anymore and is ashamed of his old self.

>>712443604
>the entire part about the friendship being forced makes kris just slump over and stop resisting you from getting the guitar
hate this doe bitch

>>712444159
He does still enjoy pranking her, even makes sure to tease Noelle as singing off-key during the church segment.

>>712443845
It’ll end with Noelle taking over the last remaining Dark World and forcing Kris to play the piano in front of her and their friends.

>>712442567
I thought the knight's body would hurt me so I didn't go in the middle to easily dodge the vortex

>>712443358
Gaster discarded your vessel and put you in Kris instead. He is on your side. What he wants you to actually do though, that is anyones guess

>>712444227
goddamn there are so many little moments like this I missed
Gotta replay Chapter 4 again frick

>>712443490
Toby made fun of guys KWAB.

>>712435813
asriel... bbwarrior...

>>712444227
i think he just does that when you get close to the guitar actually

>>712444371
yeah, or when you don't come down

>>712444281
>>712444159
Yeah, disregard that, I am retarded, I forgot he's still an absolute goblin. Of course he would love to prank the shit out of her.

>>712444227
I was fuming about it too, but I realize that she's just confused.

>>712443358
All Gaster cares about is changing the prophecy, whether for the better or worse is up to you

>>712443358
Yours. He's the only character in the whole game that can unquestionably be said to be (You)r ally specifically.

make a new thread already because theres stuff i want to ask

>>712444637
we still have two beautiful pages left buddy boy

>>712444227
Didn't even realize that...

mfw the spirit that torments me lands me some deer pussy

Question.
What if we're not the only soul around?
What if Kris's original soul is the Knight?
All humans have a SOUL, after all.
Why wouldn't Kris?

has anybody even CONSIDERED that lancer is the prince of dark i mean that nigga LITERALLY has the hood and prince of dark status for it

>>712443316
>Kris's attack power increases if Susie and Ralsei die during the Knight fight
>Seems to be jumping out the window to meet up with Susie at the end up Ch 4 without us
>Phone mentions some kind of promise
I think Kris just ended up starting to care for Susie and thus is starting to go against the knight or otherwise have second thoughts.

I like to think this music and the empty Green room fits well with Kris' past. It's supposed to represent Tenna's backstory, but it also fits Kris as well. Asgore is no longer at home because of the divorce, Noelle doesn't come to visit as much and Asriel went to college. And it's in the green room you learn from Ramb that Kris and Noelle used to play together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCF3YY9BwBs&list=PLKXdyINOQYsaHwm4rJ0QDFzsaZQNQjF0U&index=23

>>712444895
YES
FROM DAY 1

>>712444159
He still messes with her, like staring at the Berdly statue

So these are the savefiles worth having:
>full recruit pacifist all the secrets(eggs, shadow crystals,light world quests) mantleless, stealing asriel money only for the diner
>aborted snowgrave to get the ring, all secrets,mantle, stealing all possible money in the light world
>same as before but aborted at before equipping the thorn and helping berdly at hospital
>full snowgrave route

>>712444895
the prophecy points him out specifically as "the pointy-headed one" or something like that

>>712435121
I fucking love these threads.

>>712444895
I would trade Ralsei for Lancer so fucking fast

>>712444895
If you skip Ralsei's prophecy he says he is the dark prince and it isn't played as a joke in that moment
But he doesn't fit otherwise and he isn't pure dark

>>712444895
There's an image of ralsei's prophesy but it's a vessel, noelle and lancer

>>712444973
Yeah I know, I had a brainfart. Him looking hurt at forcefield scene kinda tripped me up.

>>712445171
>If you skip Ralsei's prophecy he says he is the dark prince
no he doesn't, he says he's the one with "the pointy hood" or something like that

>>712444895
Constantly.
I'm convinced that Ralsei is the anti-christ and Lancer is the true prophet.
Consider that when the Queen traps you, it's Lancer who saves you, while Ralsei is fucking around.

Is the Lancer Fan Club something that every player gets or am I chad for signing up?

>>712444978
It's better to get the money from the chocolates

>>712445003
>>712445263

Speaking of this, it seems like he knows the non-abridged version of prophecy, unlike the one that Ralsei gives us originally

>>712437131
NIGGER

>>712444978
Only three save files though, Anon.

>ralsei can fly and levitate
>kill darkners in 3 hit
>use fire magic
>kris is sandbagging
>can tank way more
>and attack way harder than anyone else when actually forced (snowgrave spampton and knight when the others are downed)
>can oneshot susie and ralsei and make them swoon
Is Susie the real jobber of the team?

>>712444978
Grind Tasque for infinite stats route also

>>712445524
QRD?

>>712445470
No clue how Susie boss is going to go she’s got like 1 move. Ralsei is 100% holding back magic

Kris and noelle playing pretend with the darkners that are in the legend means they're surely part of it

>>712445470
I'll make sure that doesn't happen. I'll give her my SOUL if it mean she gets a good ending.

>>712445524
I think there's yet another route but for glitching since if I remember correctly, there's still the glitch of proccing Snowgrave route near the three guest characters by skipping all possible dialogue where they sell 400 bagels
It feels intentional

>>712445276
yeah i STILL don't trust that crocodile teary ass nigga
he knows the prophecy seemingly word for word but still heals the king?? for what purpose??

>>712444978
>all shadow crystals, mantleless
Nobody's doing this one.

>>712445380
I might created a folder with more saves

>>712445782
because he thought being nice would have changed the prophecy, the fact t hat it (seemingly) doesn't is part of the whole reason he starts breaking down in chapter 4

>>712445842
I did this on accident because I got the ice key but fucked up the mini games in part 2

I think threads are slowing down now bit by bit.

What will Kris's first actual power be?

>>712446085
Autism

>>712446085
Blue Buster

>>712446059
hold down the americans are still waking up

>>712446085
Kill enemy

>>712446059
God I need her to destroy my throat in a public stall.

so what was pluey? I never saw it

>>712446085
Be my bitch
On a leash

>>712446261
one of the mike minigames

>>712446205
>pulls out his actual irl knife and just shanks the motherfucker
>they bleed out and turn to dust
Kino...