Thread 712543114

Sony is afraid of the switch 2

>>712543114 (OP)
They are in 2 different business though.
Sony is creating stuff for adults, nintendo creates for toddlers and imbeciles.

>>712543378
>muh adult videogames for adults such as myself
You're still stuck in puberty if you actually believe this

>>712543378
>Sony is creating stuff for adults, nintendo creates for toddlers and imbeciles.

panic behind the scene

this is where I laughed hard
>The number of users engaged on our platform continues to grow

>>712543378
cool bait

>>712543378
sony hasn't created anything in 4+ years

>>712543378
Oh oh Snoysister…
https://www.irwebmeeting.com/sony/vod/20250613/x8R5srwN/bsm_01_ja/1_GNS/fireside_chat/index.html

theyre more impressed with it than i am.
okay, better start making games again sonny.

>>712543114 (OP)
NINTENDOMINATION!

AIIIIEIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SNOYSISTERS DONT LOOOOOOK

>>712543857
>snoyggers are basically just evolved tendies
LOL LMAO EVEN

>>712543857
holy fucking COPE I can't stop laughing. this guy is embarrassing

>>712543114 (OP)
Maybe next time don't spend over 5 billions on bungie and GaaS shit. Imagine how many AA games could have been made with this money lmao

>>712543857
It will never not be funny how people keep saying this, when Nintendo appeals to both children and adults, the only demographic Nintendo doesn’t appeal is to edgy teens, that’s the only people that don’t like nintendo which might explain alot of the “hate” nintendo gets online doesn reflect reality since most online users tent to be teens

>>712543378
fpbp

>>712543734
>Someone asked about the PS5 before purchasing a swtich 2 at a retailer. We have grown our engagement.

>>712543378
all games are for kids
even your favorite ones rated M for mature

>>712543114 (OP)
good. Competition is healthy

>>712543857
It gets better, even Sony investors are starting to asking them about the Switch 2, remember when Sony tried to make the argument to the FTC and the Brazilian goverment that Nintendo didn’t count as a competitor? I wonder how they truly feel behind closed door.

>>712544670
>All it would take for mass suicides is for R* to decide they want to port GTA VI to the bing bing machine
kek this industry is a joke

The annihilation of Nintendo ,EA, Microsoft, and Sony will be the salvation of videogames. Inshallah.

>>712544483
Yeah I remember being that edgy teen playing halo 2 on xbox live and being flabbergasted that the wii was the most popular console in the world and thinking that normies are all stupid faggots for buying that gimmicky shit.

And here I am an adult with kids and I realize gaming is not that serious its just something that should be fun and that hyper competitive gaming is bad for ones mental state. And super high resolution graphics are worthless etc.

>>712543114 (OP)
From the article:
>We also have franchises that appeal to a range of different player segments. Horizon’s a good example, it’s very popular with female players.
Is this even true? I only ever see men playing/talking about it. Most astroturfed character ever.

>>712545010
They have their numbers but this feels like bullshitting for investors.
>It has a female lead, of course it's popular with women!

>>712543378
ok eric

>>712543378
>pretending your video games are not video games
What an own!

>>712543378
fpbp

>>712543715
Nice self portrait.

>>712546681
>DBSpics are also snoys
Explains a lot, really.

>>712543378
Is that why they are sending out polls about Switch 2?

>>712548917
Oof, there is a high chance Sony is unironically shitting themselves at the Switch 2 initial sales, it’s probably dawning on them that Nintendo can’t be ignored by them anymore, specially since now they have a system that Can run games good enough

>>712543114 (OP)
They have to be stupid not to be. If they're making any kind of handheld it's already too late. Switch has been on the market for 8 years and people have been building up their libraries. What's Sony gonna do to counter that? A more powerful handheld? I don't think that would matter because Switch 2 is a hybrid so you can just play it docked 4K anyways

>>712543378
>Sony is creating stuff
well. that's debateable

>>712543378
Truth Nuke

>>712543114 (OP)
Gee i wonder why? Jim really fucked this company for years to come.

>>712543531
I thought this way too when I was 13, then I grew up and realised Nintendo does actually make games for babies, in exactly the same way the Pokémon cartoon or mario movie is for babies.

>>712543378
>stuff for adults

>>712543857
>"graduating" to playstation as they age

Normies used to think this way. I'm glad it's on its way out. Videogames are not movies, or even games for that matter. They're toys, and you shouldn't be thinking about how to make people stop seeing them like that, you should be thinking about how to make better fucking toys.

>>712551401
Ironically Nintendo never leaving their Toy Maker roots has been a massive advantage right now over Sony’s attempts to turn gaming into Hollywood, because Guess what? Hollywood is getting fucked due to their expensive budgets, it feels like Sony learned nothing from the movie industry

>>712543114 (OP)
>Sony responds to question
More like Nintendo is panicking that no one is buying software for the flop 2, the pre tariffs boost is gone.

>>712551658
Its also probably why they are "wokestalled"
Nintendo tries to avoid anything politically charged because they dont see themselves as art and so dont fall into the fallacy that art exists to subvert. Sadly NoA finds ways to fuck that up within the games.

In fact, I think nintendo japan might actually be stubborn about it, since even after reiwa shit all they did was add a slide to their powerpoint saying "we hire women too" and "we dont ask about gender identity/sexuality".

>>712552113
>Sources cited.

>>712543857
>...if those younger users choose not to graduate to PlayStation as they age"
They should have never allowed SEGA to die then. The whole reason the idea of "cool games" and "adult games" even exist is because of SEGA being the first to really capture that. Sony was able to come in and overtake that and it led SEGA kids (those who didn't want the kiddy, uncool Nintendo games) to being enthralled by the PS1. The $299 price helped too obviously. After being taken from SEGA and locked in with PlayStation, they got into the PS2 (although PS2 was more of its own phenomenon being the best valued product in consumer electronic at the game). Which kept happening over and over and brings us to now
>PS3
As soon as they dropped the Kevin Butler ads and that shit wasn't $600 anymore, everyone decided to buy one and it eventually beat out the 360 in America. Not that Xbox had any chance anywhere else of course.

Problem is Sony and Microsoft made a mistake not playing the long game. While Nintendo was scooping up the younger people and casuals with the Wii, DS, 3DS and Switch (Wii U to a lesser extent obviously) and making their childhoods, Sony and Microsoft were focused on the "hardcore" gamers who were getting older and older, but weren't bringing in anyone else to "replace" them. It's why the only people you see still doing console war bullshit are people in their 30s and older.

>>712551658
>Ironically Nintendo never leaving their Toy Maker roots has been a massive advantage

Yeah, i was going to say. They're the only big one that truly understands what videogames are about. Japanese devs in general have a better grasp on what console videogames should be like (pc gaming is quite different, i think, and is more related to games than toys).

Like, Capcom, nintendo and konami back in the day have always been the goats, and if Capcom made a videogame console with their own exclusives, THEN i'd have a hard time choosing. But since it's just nintendo, it's just obvious.

It's so sad to have witnessed playstation become progressively westernised and boring. To think their big hype games nowadays is fucking capeshit and walking dead stuff is just devastating. Playstation used to mean a lot more than that.

>>712543378
fpbp. Sony's stuff is mostly trash but you can't argue against the "toddlers and imbeciles" thing about Nintendo.

>>712543378
It was obvious bait yet they still took it.... Tendies are a special kind of retarded. No wonder Nintendo can sell them overpriced cardboard.

Also Sony and Nintendo are in 2 different businesses unironically since Nintendo now only makes handhelds.

>>712552309
Source?
Cyberpunk selling under 5k on the no games Scamtendo deuce. So much for the biggest 3rd party game with super duper optimization.

>>712551658
It's crazy to me they still trying to push this shit with the Marvel fighting game. The deal is only going to bleed them more

>>712551658
It still so funny Sony agreed to this contract since it basically give too much power to the Mouse, Even more so because this what they tried to do to Nintendo back in the 90’s with the Nintendo PlayStation contract, hell this why Yamauchi told them to eat shit, what they truly feel fuck were they thinking?

>>712550517
>I thought this way too when I was 13, then I turned 15 and realised Nintendo does actually make games for babies
This website is 18+ only

>>712544830
As long as R* is still mad about Body Harvest I don't think Nintendo is getting timely ports.

>>712552923
>what were they thinking
It doesnt matter because they are getting what they fucking deserve. That playstation screwjob back in the 90s was such a scummy move and they have always pretended like they were victims of a bad deal.

>>712553303
Then why are you here? It's nap time

\>>712543378
>Sony is creating stuff for adults
> said stuff is tps/fps with smelly screaming lesbians where the gameplay is simpler than the games for toddlers
this is just sad

>>712543378
This desu. I feel so adult when I play Marvel ® Spider-Man ® on the Playstation 5 ™

>>712543114 (OP)
GTA6 delay killed their sales this year

>>712543114 (OP)
Do you guys think the investors are mad at Jim? I mean he is the one that started all the issue at Sony over the past 10 years

>>712543114 (OP)
The time to course correct has begun at Sony, do you guys think it will work?

>>712543114 (OP)
if only they stayed in japan, maybe they wouldn't be worring right now, why americans have to ruin everything good.?

>>712555965
> improve on a console with 1 game
I want to believe that sony will release a console where its first exclusive is cancelled making it the first console with -1 games

>>712543378
>They are in 2 different business though.
Is that why the games that are on both Playstation and the Switch sell better on the Switch?
Because they're in different businesses?

>>712556115
Japan population is declining, Jap boomers just followered the money to the west

>>712556572
And it didn’t work anyway since Sony still felt like they needed to chase the Gaas market and we know how that turned out, outside of Helldivers 2 and even them they almost killed the thing with their stupid shit.

>a new console comes out with 1 game
>sony is scared
Why didn't they just release some games over the last 5 years?

>>712557303
Making games is hard, pls understand

>>712543378
Yeah all those diaper wearing adults.

>>712543378
Lol, Switch 2 was very clearly marketed to adults. They've been selling more mature 3rd party games since the Wii U because they know their core audience has aged. The "Nintendo Kids" became teens with the SNES and then adults, and their strategy reflects that growth with each generation.
I'm not entirely sure who they're advertising to by getting Paul Rudd to be their spokesperson again, maybe older people, but the days of Nintendo just being for kids have long passed.

>>712543378
>here's your mature game for mature gamers like yourself bro

>>712544670
>FTC and the Brazilian goverment that Nintendo didn’t count as a competitor?
When people who's job isn't to know about video game business knows Nintendo are bigger than Sony.

>>712557391
I mean it is for Sony, the spider-man game costed 300 million to make, Jesus fucking Christ no wonder they chased the Gaas like dogs, with a budget like that to would too start trying to catch the whales

>>712550081
Wait they made two more flops after Concord? Why?!

>>712550081
What the fuck is Fairgames?

>>712543378
look the seethe in the replies

>Investors asked SIE President Hideaki Nishino about his thoughts on tougher competition driven by Switch 2 and Nintendo's improved relationship with 3rd Parties:

>"We constantly monitor, the kind of overall gaming industry, including the action of other market participants.

>Additionally, a catalyst in the market are great for the industry as a whole, and then, as they invigorate excitements and then demand them more properly.

>So it's great to have people launching new things."

https://x.com/Stealth40k/status/1933463390820696254

>>712558181
https://youtu.be/-B4n-d4cYTk

>>712548917
>there's panic b̶e̶h̶i̶n̶d̶ in front of the scenes

>>712558119
Please understand Sony needs money because according to them, the first party games are profitable but NOT profitable ENOUGH, that why they have been chasing Gaas for years and why they freaked out so much with Activision Buyout, that whole thing just shows how much people try to protect Sony, the fucking FTC only focused on the damages it could cause to sony and not the consumer to the point the judge had to remind him he wasn’t Sony’s lawyer, fucking christ.

>>712558465
Christ.

>Panic behind the scenes
He was right after all lmao

>>712559032
based adult console for mature gentlemen

>>712555965
The one game per console strategy is working
PS3 - Bloodborne
PS4 - Uncharted 4 or TLOU 1 remaster
PS5 - GTA 6
PS6 - GTA 6
PS7 - GTA 6
PS8 - GTA 7

>>712558560
>Gaas
IT'S GaaS YOU DINGUS

>>712559189
That's correct. The little kid only knows what the Switch is. Obviously when he gets old enough and tired of children's games, he'll want more mature games to play. That's where the PlayStation comes in.

>>712551658
>35-50% wholesale bundle

>>712543378
I'm gonna be real for a minute here, but stuff like this is genuinely why idiots like you do not understand how business works and will probably never amount to anything.
You see, business is very simple. Find ways to make money! More money=better. And finding ways to grab every possible avenue as a means of cash flow is ideal. Now, let's be honest with ourselves: video games are just complex toys. You can equate them to interactive books if it makes you feel better. "Oh but the Red Dead, the Halo, the COD!" That's very nice sweetie, your mountain dew and doritos are waiting for you in the living room...
So, since video games are toys, one must find out how to grasp the biggest amount of audience to appeal these toys to, or at least capture the attention of someone. How do you do that? Making good games. People like those! Insane, I know. But hey, shit sells itself. And Nintendo keeps doing that. You can bitch and moan about how its for kids, but somehow ignore Playstation also houses titles like Crash and Spyro.
And at the end of the day, the point is this:
If you were in the toy business, would you want 1 million adults buying your items, or 10 million kids? Thank you.

>>712559220
>PS6~10 - GTAO2
fiddy

>>712544483
If anything, that show's Nintendo's demographic isn't kids anymore but young adults. I believe that graph was from 2020-2021 so those 20-30 year olds were Wii kids. But as it shows, kids today aren't interested in Nintendo. They care way more about Fortnite and Minecraft. The audience Nintendo would appeal too is going to be far more comfortable on PC then when the Switch launched. The risk to Nintendo is that the nostalgia play doesn't work anymore. You can already see this. Everyone playing Mario Kart World is in their 30s and as you get older, you play games less. Nintendo hasn't created anything new and they've been relying on Millennials and early Zoomers to buy systems. This generation is at risk of falling out of games as they build a family, go up in their job and (maybe) buy a house. The Switch 2 will likely everywhere outside of Japan (it will dominate there again) as it struggles to keep the nostalgia audience. And because I know someone is going to say it
>BUT MUH 3.5 MILLION
Japan by itself was about 30% of that and UK, Spain and France made up another 450K, so US sales were likely underrepresented. This is likely why you saw a fuck ton of pictures where stores had a ton of them. Its not unlike the 3DS where Nintendo struggled to break 75 million and Japan remained its best selling market until the US barely overtook it in 2017. The nostalgia audience aging out is why its going to struggle in the US which is Nintendo's biggest market.

The risk to Sony is actually Steam though they are kind of losing that fight. PS6 without COVID stimmy checks will be the real test.

>>712559762
Video game demography is 14-21 for most part, even sony own data shown that.

Muh kids is a shitty ass excuse.

>>712543378
>Sony is creating stuff for adults, nintendo creates for toddlers and imbeciles.
>Their GOTY last year was a mascot platformer that barely sold at all
>journalists and Sonyfags treated it like it was the second coming of Christ
>even though Mario Galaxy and Mario Odyssey easily mog it
Lol
Lmao

>>712543378
Lmao tendies are absolutely fuming from this truthnuke

>>712558436
>if people are excited about the Switch 2
>they'll be excited to buy out products too
lol

>>712559312
The way things are going, there won't be a PlayStation to buy when he becomes an adult.

>>712559762
>They care way more about Fortnite and Minecraft.
You know kids play those on a Switch, right?

>>712551401
I don't think not enough people are tired of movie game slop but it's increasing. Users like >>712543378 never graduated to movies so holding up on the joystick while some characters walks and talks for the next 20 minutes is personally gratifying to him. He thinks this is the ideal way to watch a story.

>>712543378
and pedos anon.

>>712560316
For real, i’m still baffled at how Well Minecraft did on switch, like why?

>>712543378
Sony=Market for trannies and subhumans who hate videogames
Nintendo=Make games for humans who play videogames

They did mention Astro Bot as something for the kids in their interview.

>>712559762
>young adults love Nintendo
>get a job, have a family
>buy Switch for their kids and play together with them
Nintendo always wins, baby

>>712560316
They play it on their ipads and pc’s. No one’s gonna buy a switch 2 to play it on that

>>712560472
Gonna have to do better than a pretty faceless mascot in 1 game that is 75% nostalgia pandering.

>>712560020
>journalists and Sonyfags treated it like it was the second coming of Christ
Let’s be honest that was only because it came out after Concord, Sony NEEDED a win however small it was after a game that did worse than fucking E.T, have come out before i assure most people wouldn’t have cared about Astro since the platformer audience on Switch, which is why Sony isn’t leaving Nintendo systems any time soon since that where most of it sales come from, fucking Forces and Fromtier still did better on switch despite the Quality of the ports

>>712560472
Sackboy was better in every way. Including, and most importantly, the games.

>>712560451
>humans

>>712560472
surely this will get all the kids onto the PS5

>>712561078
Maybe it'll work on Switch
No? Wait kids don't buy Switches? It's just 30+ year old adults? Kids are playing roblox and minecraft?

>>712543378
funny how this post wasn't deleted

>>712560743
>Gonna have to do better than a pretty faceless mascot in 1 game that is 75% nostalgia pandering.
What? You didn’t like the mediocre Mario clone with overglorified PlayStation Cameos? Still so funny how Team Asobi took too much from Mario but can’t Say it directly or Sony will probably end them, that speech at the game awards where they tip toe around talking about Nintendo is so funny, just go to show the chokehold Nintendo actually has on the industry.

>>712544662
>all games are for kids
>even your favorite ones rated M for mature
After playing Persona 5 for the first time and it literally being "us kids are so cool adults are so bad" for half the game I agree.
It feels like I'm watching some some TVY7 after school show trying way too hard to appeal to children. I fail to see how slapping a rated M sticker changes how juvenile the game actually is.

>>712561181
>Wait kids don't buy Switches?
Kids don't buy consoles, retard. Parents buy them for their kids.

>>712559220
>PS3
>Bloodborne.

>>712561360
why does spyro gets to be the actual actual character while everyone else is a bot?

>>712543378
>This level of cope

Lmao

>>712561450
Kids don't play switches, it's 30+ year old adults like yourself. Consoles are not popular with gen z and whatever the next generation is called.

>>712561503
the devs jacks off to him

>>712559762
This post radiates the same smugness at this post but with even less confidence somehow

>>712560790
My headcanon is that Concord was supposed to win GOTY last year but given that it couldn't live even 2 weeks they had to pull the emergency plan.

>>712561618
my nephew (5 year old) begs me to play Mario everytime I see him, you're delusional

>>712543531
This is a very recent change. For decades Nintendo blocked the release of Yakuza on the Switch which only changed a few weeks ago. They wouldn’t allow mature games on their platform and you need their permission and special devkits to release your game on their platform nowadays.

>>712561705
I don't think forcing your nephew to play a game only you like is a good way to behave around children.

>>712560316
Most of Fortnite's users are on Playstation. Switch is a very small portion of the Fortnite audience.

>>712561456
Wait what was the one game for PS3?

>>712561618
This
No kid today plays or owns a game console, all they own is a $1000 iphone and the few that do get a switch

The only people buying consoles are millennials and boomers

>>712561770
Demon souls?

>>712561759
already moving the goalposts?
I literally never talked to him about Mario or videogames lmao, he saw me playing my switch one day and immediately asked me to play Mario unprompted.

>>712561763
The whales are on Playstation, the average kid can't sink as much money on it.

>>712561618
>Kids don't play Switches
The other day I had the kids of a cousin playing all the goddamn afternoon Mario Kart.

Those kids left my house begging their parents to buy them a Switch.

>>712561871
Why do you think your anecdote of forcing your siblings kids to play Mario is reflective of the majority of children? You aren't aware of what this next generation of kids is doing, it's not playing Nintendo or any console for that matter.

>>712561876
See above.

>>712561763
Does Switch have Roblox cause I know kids love playing that on Playstation.

>>712562074
It doesn't have Roblox, just Minecraft.

>>712562042
>more headcanon full of cope and seethe
never change snoytrannies

>>712561618
Oh yes the, “BUT MUH MOBILE THO”, the funny thing is that not even Apple believes this, their attempts to court, “Core Gamers” has failed big, because all the people play on mobile are Freemium Shit, the moment you charge money for something they dip.

>>712561618
I have young relatives who own the first Switch, with games ranging between Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing, 51 Worldwide Games, and some titles they discovered on my own console (such as Katamari, Deemo, Taiko Tatsujin, etc.). Atelier would have worked too if the game wasn't solely translated in English.

Switch caters to kids as much as they cater to enthusiast gamers like myself, who used to primarily play on PC and Playstation before.

>>712562258
>I have young relatives
OK? That's really neat but you don't know what the majority of kids who are playing games are actually playing. Your anecdote was even about something they don't personally have. What are you even trying to say? You have an incredibly small sample size. Kids play Roblox and Minecraft on phones and tablets. Especially tablets.

How it really is

>>712562443
>What are you even trying to say? You have an incredibly small sample size.
Nice projection.

>>712562520
>pic so old it's two generations out of date

>>712544830
I pray to Allah it gets announced that GTA 6 is coming to Switch 2

>>712543378
more like sony creates for edgy teenagers and nintendo for 30 year old balding manchildren

>>712544830
>>712563271
>Gets ported so Switch 2
>Becomes playable Day 1 via emulation
Imagine the nuclear meltdown

>>712563565
>PS5 emulation is now a thing.
God i wish i was here when this dropped i Can already tell there was seething

>>712543114 (OP)
Have they once ever considered that THEY'RE the negative impact on their own business? or do they just memoryhole a blatant failure like Concord and keep on keeping on?

>>712543378
I'm an ADULT and I BOUGHT a SWITCH 2, you tybe b tranny.

>>712544483
>the only demographic Nintendo doesn’t appeal is to edgy teens

They certainly tried during the GameCube/DS/3DS days.

>>712565194
Only during the gamecube, the DS and 3DS era were more like a vita-like mirror era which they also continued into the switch (mostly due to snoy trying to kill those devs off and them taking shelter on the switch)
coincidentally the most obnoxious nintendo "fans" that hate nintendo today are gamecube niggers
what a coincidental coincidence

>>712543378
fpbp

>>712557474
>game where you play as a average tendie
lmaaooo
me and the bros gonna laugh our asses off playing this one

>>712543114 (OP)
If big multiplats sold the best on Nintendo systems, Sony would be toast. But that doesn't really happens barring a few exceptions, like Sonic games.

>>712566441
you're gonna seriously pay for it and actually play it?

>>712555965
They've been trying to sell their VR2 system that nobody wants and think is a detriment when it shows up during an Absolute State presentation. They have no hope unless it's something they can spin into a "$299"/PS4 tier win for them, and if they can't have that, then it's time to keep putting games on Switch 2 while their best customers buy $80 Xbox games that end up replacing their own worn franchises.

>>712557728
I wish they would divest from their movie studios in the US. American capitalism is dragging down their creativity.

>>712561618
I got my nephews a SNES Classic and modded additional games onto it, and they love it.

>>712543378
FPBP

How is he coping?

>>712562258
>Switch caters to kids as much as they cater to enthusiast gamers like myself, who used to primarily play on PC and Playstation before.
Kinda hate having to agree with this.
Like 5 years ago I used to scoff at old farts that whined about PC gaming or even troonix gaming outright for being too finnicky and requiring too much tinkering to get working perfectly.
Yet these days after life hit me in the balls I vastly prefer pick up and play systems.
Even what I consider a fairly well built and stable system (no overclocking or that sort of bullshit) plus an SSD is far slower than just pressing a button on a portable and get going.
>But the goydeck.
Without having to deal with a gorillion proton versions to play a goddamn game.

>>712543114 (OP)
GO BACK TO MAKE EXCLUSIVES YOU RETARDED WESTERN COMPANY

>>712567352
Grow up, sales being good, and switches 2 being easy to get aren't the good thing

>>712563902
the news dropped yesterday on famitsu threads
the faggot went through nearly 4 threads to bump limit back to back just spamming his seethe
it was fucking amazing

>>712567606
Now say that again in english, akshit.

>>712561719
Literally everything you just said was wrong.

Yakuza Kiwami was ported to switch last year, and the only reason the series hadn’t made it to the platform prior was Nagoshi having a complex about the platform being for kids. Once he left the company, SEGA promptly ported it. Dunno where the idea started for him though, because Yakuza 1 & 2 were also on Wii U. None of it was on Nintendo.

They’ve had mature games on their platforms for decades. Hell, they’ve been fucking mature games for a long while too. Eternal Darkness on the GameCube, Bayonetta 2 & 3, and most recently the new Famicom Detective Club game.

I don’t believe you need a Nintendo dev kit to release on switch. I know a few indie devs who were able to get their games on the platform by just using the software SDK. You do have communicate with them, as with any platform holder (Steam included) prior to release but given the state of the Eshop it’s pretty light. They don’t give that much of a fuck about what goes on there.

>>712561719
>They wouldn’t allow mature games on their platform
shit like daymare has been out (everywhere but in muttrica) for like 2 years now on the switch 1

>>712567352
We're on our ninth Famitsu thread this week, I think you know how he's taking the news.

>>712568182
technically the 16th if you count the fake threads he spammed right after the numbers dropped and the preemptive overbloated numbers thread like 12 hours before the numbers dropped

>>712545010
They're very clearly bullshitting based off of the Ghost of Yotei and Marathon comments. Horizon games almost instantly go on sale and Lego Horizon Adventures flopped right out of the gate going on sale extremely quickly. I just managed to get it and HZD Remastered for $30 each just a few weeks ago when HZDR came out less than a year ago and LHA came out a couple months after it. HFW was $40 after about three months and then the Complete Edition was about $40 after four months.

Whenever they talk about Horizon they want to tout the numbers to argue there's a fanbase but said fanbase didn't show up for HFW or LHA, and HZDR was met with almost no reception. It's the Avatar of Sony; it makes millions of sales but no one talks about it like a fan.

>>712543378
Sony is for people who don't know how to connect a controller to a PC.
Nintendo is for people who only like Nintendo but not really since most of there series are worse now

>>712543378
based

>>712561719
>They wouldn’t allow mature games on their platform and you need their permission and special devkits to release your game on their platform nowadays.
So we are just making shit up now? Nagoshi was the reason why Yakuza wasn’t on switch and even then he regret it deeply

>>712561618
>Kids don't play switches
My nephews and nieces, all who are anywhere from 5 to around 11, only play on a Switch when they're not glued to phones and they primarily play Fortnite, Minecraft, and Pokemon on it. They absolutely are playing on it.

>>712568786
The Yakuza team underestimatimg the switch for years only for it to sell really well for them the moment it got ported will never stop been funny to me

>>712569039
To be fair, Yokoyama is also known to greatly exaggerate. He said they first saw that the Yakuza brand was going to be big when they ported it to PC completely disregarding the fact like five years prior to that statement the only reason everything was getting localized or even made in the case of 3R-5R was because of the massive success of 0 on PS4 which he just somehow forgot even though he talked about it in an interview at the time too. I'm sure it's doing well on Switch, but the man isn't exactly a reliable person to go for for sales despite heading the whole studio because he says what benefits the studio at the moment and never gives concrete numbers on anything.

>>712568278
>PS5 got a boost this week due to a sale
Imagine if both the Switch 2 and Switch 1 beat out the PS5 next week

Sonybros...

>>712571367
Lol can’t even keep the record on America

>>712572149
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
STOP, PLS STOP!!!!!

>>712572149
The fact this come from directly from Mat Piscatella must sting Even more considering he is part of the NPD so snoys can’t say the classic.
>IT DOESN’T COUNT.

>>712559762
>kids today aren't interested in Nintendo. They care way more about Fortnite and Minecraft
Both of those games existed in their prime during the Switch's lifetime.

>>712573759
and both are on the switch

>>712568308
I enjoy them, they're very pretty, but I would never buy one at launch price. The franchise would unironically be better if it just removed the story, replaced Aloy with a character creator, and let you roam and hunt robo dinos. It had all the potential to be a good Monster Hunter clone, but it chooses pages upon pages of lame dialogue and plot instead.

>>712573453
>Knack 3
Mario and DK better watch their backs.

>>712543857
>graduate
what the fuck

>>712575136
It goes to show just how much Sony depended on the whole, “Nintendo is for kids,” without they actually have to compete, since we know they actually see nintendo as a threat behind close doors

>>712543857
KEKAROO

>>712543114 (OP)
I heard there's panic behind the scenes at sony. Apparently they've only sold 720k PS5s this year.

>>712543114 (OP)
Concord 2 incoming.

>>712576658
Oh boy this is gonna be a major sloppy flop.

Good, i want Sony to actually give a shit again and try to make actual games and not live service trash.

>>712576545
Nintendo literally beating these clowns into the dust. They've committed Sega tier fuck ups at this point.

>>712568979
>>712566962
Weird nobodys' own kids play these games. Must not have any to reference, just weird one off occasions where they were seen playing a mario.

>>712543114 (OP)
Makes sense. They didn't have to worry about the Switch 1 because the system was so weak that it wasn't able to get any high profile games, so Sony basically had a monopoly on those. Now it can run them, even if it's still worse than playing them on Playstation/Xbox, so the Switch 2 can potentially eat into software sales. They have to consider Nintendo a real competitor now.

>>712561618
Having worked in an after school program with kindergartners through 5th grade, youre laughably wrong. Every Friday kids brought their switches to play Pokémon or rocket league during “electronics hour”

>>712577920
>They have to consider Nintendo a real competitor now.
Nintendo's been eating their lunch the entire generation. Have you not seen the company's sales in Japan? People aren't buying these high profile games.

>>712578042
>People aren't buying these high profile games.
Which is why they have been GaaS brainrotted for a while now, they need to make back their money

>>712578358
Instead of making no games they should have just focused on making better games and better managing the studios they did have rather than chasing after shit live service flops that never amounted to anything. Live service models are extremely risky as Sony learned out the hard way. There can only be so many successful ones on the market at one time and it requires eating a ton of cash to even get them going, all banking on microtransactions making that money back, and having sustained income which means people playing your games for years and years. Genuinely completely out of touch with the gaming market and they're supposed to be one of its leaders.

In the past console generations were 5 years now they are 8 If we look at previous generation and see how long ports to the previous generation were cut into the next generation. By the second year they were largely cut off. We are 5 years into the PS5 and games are still going to PS4 because the adoption rate really is that low. When you have new console roughly on par with PS4 specs wise and it basically ensures that adoption of current platform never will happens for a huge portion of the playerbase. 40% PS+ users are still on PS4 5 years in. When November 2027 rolls around and you release the PS6. Having the most powerful console on the market means nothing when 40% your audience as no incentive to upgrade. Since Xbox committed suicide you have nothing compete against but the switch 2. They are fucked long term.

>>712578720
>40% PS+ users are still on PS4 5 years in.
Is that why they get so upset when you point out Switch 2 is much stronger than a PS4?

>>712578791
The raw specs are roughly in parity on paper, with a modern chipset it definitely punching above its weight. Output on by a per wat basis it definitely more powerful.

>>712578598
>Genuinely completely out of touch with the gaming market and they're supposed to be one of its leaders
It’s the investor mindset. All they need is that one megahit that will make up for all those other losses and rake in billions upon billions. Proper games are a safe bet but you don’t get much from those compared to say making the next fortnite. Even after concord they’ll keep doubling and tripling down until they’re bankrupt for that next big game. Goodwill only takes you so far, but s megahit live service game will set you for life

>>712578598
>Genuinely completely out of touch with the gaming market and they're supposed to be one of its leaders.
Dude, they're porting stuff to PC. They're complete and utter morons when it comes to trying to attract people to their brand, and specifically their closed ecosystem. Nintendo understands that's an idiotic idea and only did it once with the Nvidia Shield to try to break into China specifically and never again.

>>712578042
Why do you people think Japanese physical famitsu sales are the end all be all of sales figures? Of course Japan sides towards Nintendo, it's the only handheld on the market and Japan has always preferred handhelds over home consoles. Also if you look at only Japan, you'd think Clair Obscur bombed extremely hard despite selling over 3 mil in a month. Famitsu threads mean absolute jack shit in the bigger scheme of things. If Japan was all that mattered then we would still be in the days where Japan releases a game and then waits a year to release it worldwide. Everything gets worldwide releases now because a single region means nothing.

there is no overlap between switch 2 and ps5 (soon ps6)

there is no competition, a person will not decide to get a switch 2 over a playstation or vice versa

Sony has one competitor and its pc gaming

>>712579441
I see them porting to PC as a way to strain a little bit of money out of their exclusives in the short-term not realizing it could potentially hurt them long-term. The growing amount of PC users is also a legitimate threat at least to their hardware business. Nintendo understands this and doesn't even entertain the idea of having their first party studios release on PC.

>>712543114 (OP)
Oh course they're afraid, Switch 2 destroyed every playstation in 4 days and PS5 emulation is already booting games

>>712543114 (OP)
That would explain why there was so many attack articles and doomposters on mainstream media sites, it was Sony Entertainment using its assets to help prop up Playstation during the launch. They should have instead looked at Mario Kart World to learn how to make a successful GaaS title that will last for a decade at least.

>>712579656
>Of course Japan sides towards Nintendo
But that wasn't always the case. Sony used to have a much larger presence in Japan, and being a Japanese company you would expect them to have a large japanese following, but they lost so much of it to Nintendo to the point where they don't have the reliable diehard Japanese fans or studios to carry things when the big western studios drop the ball. They're having a serious identity crisis, much like Sega did before they went third party.

>>712579964
sony didnt lose japan, sony dumped japan for american hollywood money

>>712579791
>I see them porting to PC as a way to strain a little bit of money out of their exclusives in the short-term not realizing it could potentially hurt them long-term.
That's exactly the issue. Yes, it's a short-term gain of money using your IPs but it completely devalues your brand. This is how you become a Sega or a Microsoft in the long run if you keep it up and go from first-party developers with your own ecosystem to making stuff solely for the competition.

>>712543378
>Sony is creating stuff for adults
Makes sense.
Adults shouldn't be playing video games, therefore Sony doesn't make them.

>>712580320
Kek

They'd never do it but Nintendo should stick with the Switch consoles. After Switch 2, do Switch 3 and then Switch 4, ect, ect.

>>712544670
>remember when Sony tried to make the argument to the FTC and the Brazilian goverment that Nintendo didn’t count as a competitor?
They did this for three reasons:
>To paint Microcock (Xbox) as an encroaching monopoly by buying Activision, despite the fact that they're dead fucking last for video games
>To work around the retarded logic of making deals to specifically exclude Microcock (Xbox) third-party multiplat releases, including their own IPs as seen with Patapon and Everybody's Golf remasters going to Switch but not Xbox
>To appear weak and incapable of sustaining themselves if Microcock (Xbox) gains exclusives from its acquisitions, even though Nintendo has almost none of those games and has proven for decades that game companies can succeed just fine on their own

>>712550081
>Jim really fucked this company for years to come.
>28mil in debt
>barely make profit on ps5 if any
>1st party games dont sell and bargin binned after 3 weeks
>destiny, fortnite, fifa, cod money drying up
No anon.
They are just permafucked.
There's no saving this shit

>>712580530
that wasn't sony
that was THE FTC LAWYERS THEMSELVES trying to shill for sony

>>712555615
>PC, Mobile, and GAAS will bring growth
>Live Service games will be "completely transformational" to Playstation
This nigga did more irreversible damage to the brand in a couple years than all of the retarded movie game shit that began with TLOU has in the past decade.

>>712577920
>They didn't have to worry about the Switch 1 because the system was so weak
that is the exact same mentality that led them to lose the PS360 to the fucking wii
except this time it's even worse because JP devs all moved to nintendo, pretty much the only ones left remaining are rats like CH and marvelous willing to die with the sinking ship

>>712576786
I am genuinely excited for the release of Marathon. It might be the final nail in the coffin of chasing live service games.

>>712581050
>completely transformational
well he wasn't wrong!

>>712559312
>Obviously when he gets old enough and tired of children's games, he'll want more mature games to play. That's where the PlayStation comes in.
We live in an age of streamers and youtubers, that kid will grow up wanting a top of the line gaming PC instead of a shitbox so he can be just like his favorite content creators

They not worried lil bro

>>712560472
The problem is that kids didn't play Astro Bot or the 40+ different legacy-related IPs the game is focused on.

>>712581620
>Revenue
kek

>>712543378
This. The article is saying they’re not concerned. Op has reading comprehension problems.

>>712557662
>but the days of Nintendo just being for kids have long passed.
It was never a thing to begin wither.
Every Nintendo system had T or M rated games.
It's a narrative spun by retards.

>>712581695
>yeah they have more people paying them money but how much did the CEO get in his bonus huh?????

>>712581620
>revenue
do we tell him?

>>712560790
>>712561661
MY headcanon is that the only reason Concord had its plugged pulled is because it was Bungie making the call. Not because they thought it was a lost cause, but because they didn't want Concord to occupy the same space that their own GaaS title Marathon was going to slot into. Honestly seems like a big, massive conflict of interest when a company making a big GaaS game is also given authority over 14+ other GaaS games being made by other companies during the same time frame.

>>712581847
Revenue is the total income before expenses, while profit is the income remaining after deducting all expenses.

>>712579708
Dangerously deluded.

>>712580701
Don't forget buying up Bungie, which was notoriously mismanaged even under Xbox.

>>712581108
>pic

What is wrong with these cockaroaches?

>>712581620
>>712581847
now factor in their almost 30 billion USD of debt to eat up that revenue

>>712581959
And how much of that profit do you get? Why discuss that when talking about general popularity of who the common person uses

>>712582221
How does debt effect the discussion of who is more popular

>>712582221
>Sony is 30 billion in debt while Nintendo is debt free.
It never stops to crack me up.

>>712579109
yes and no
not only it has a far more modern CPU with the benefits of current architectures and protocols, it's also straight up better in terms of raw power
this is critical when even the PiS5 pro is bottlenecked by it's dogshit CPU barely better than the base PS4 one

>>712582275
>>712582341
>coping after his revenue cope failed instantly
>w-w-w-who is more popular....
2.2 MILLION pre orders for switch 2, from one retailer in one country alone vs only 900k pre-orders across that entire country

>>712582341
Where's Playstation's theme park?

Sony obviously has the metrics that tell them what people are playing and what makes money. I wonder if chasing gaas and the service model is really a solid long term strategy as they alienate the generation who worshiped them and the newer generation only view PS as something they open Fortnite on.

>>712543378
>Sony is creating stuff for adults
>censors everything related to hot sexy women or outright cancel them
>makes Astrobot
>for adults
Only PC is for adults, Nintendo is for children and Sony is for retarded children.

>>712579656
>If Japan was all that mattered then we would still be in the days where Japan releases a game and then waits a year to release it worldwide.
most jp devs are still like that
square, segay and crapcom are exceptions due to being glorified westoid companies, and even then sega is starting to go by timezone rules, releasing games on japan half a day early

>>712581802
>It's a narrative spun by retards
Back in the 6th generation, that's when that gay ass meme started and it set video games on a path of destruction since then, fuck Normal faggots.

>>712582447
Nintendo made a worldwide successful movie out of Mario.

Meanwhile, Sony's all "At least we put Twisted Metal and The Last of Us" on TV! Where's your TV shows!?"

>>712582764
I still believe that Marathon could make out just fine even without the live-service. Fairgames, there's just no saving that at all.

>>712566582
>American capitalism
Global Communism

>>712543114 (OP)
sony should be afraid of nortubel

I'm feeling a sit down chain restaurant will be the next thing after Miyamoto gets tired of the theme park and movies.

>>712575369
>we want our OWN mario
>kills ape escape
>kill jak & daxter
>kills ratchet and clank
>kills spyro
>kills crash
>kills gravity rush
>kills little big planet
>kills dark cloud
>kills parapa the rappa
Ah.
Yes.
Truly a deep interest in brand cultivation.

>>712559762
>kind of
They've already lost

>>712543378
>haha my (company) makes (product) for (consumer A), your (company) makes (product) for (consumer B)!
i will never understand the faggots who buy into the console wars shit

>>712550081
add mindseye to that
sony is issuing refunds for it

>>712582508
Revenue shows whats more popular, youre just being disingenuous bringing up things that dont matter like debt. Whats next ROI lmao

>>712583427
They didn't make that

>>712581108
But Marvelous is bending to Nintendo.
No game key cards (least in the west) DxM, etc.
So they aren't dead yet.
Treason Heart is done though.

>>712581980
Buyng bungie is wrapped into the 28mil of debt anon.
But yes.

>>712543378
Sony has made content for adults since the ps3

>>712583152
I think the closest they've ever got to that is God of War

>>712583431
revenue is disingenuous because sony and snoy journos count it instead of units sold because nintendo sells more but sony charges twice the price for their trash

>>712543378
>Sony is creating stuff for adults
You're telling me adults don't like playing video games then anon? Cuz Sony isn't making anything at all.

>>712583112
>Yoshi's becomes real
>Menu is just all the MKW food
DO IT
YES
GLORIOUS

>>712543378
Nintendies BTFO

>>712583586
>twice the price for their trash
Yet people buy it, curious
>NOOOO THAT MONEY DOESN'T COUNT

>>712567903
Don't forget that during the Wii U era you had companies like Namco, EA, Sega, and others who would put several year old ports of games on the system, not advertise them then use it as an excuse to not support the console again.
Like EA put Mass Effect 3 and only part 3 on it and pointed towards it's low sales to not bother supporting the console. Same with Sega and the Yakuza 1&2 ports and Namco with Tekken Tag 2. They just slapped them on there, barely mentioned they were on there, then went "oh, dead platform" when they didn't sell due to them being either old games or barely advertised.

>>712583112
I've been amused by him working on the theme park ever since I learned his degree was in industrial design. Took him 50 years to use it.

>>712583743
>sales numbers don't count! only this cope number does!!!!!
cope snoy 3.5 million completely mogs ANY playstation release

>>712583112
Rainforest Cafe styled Nintendo restaurant? Sure.

>>712583152
Don't forget:
>Sackboy
>Medievil
>Twisted Metal
>Uncharted
>Sly Cooper
>Infamous
>Fat Princess
>Killzone
>Dreams

Now they're willing (but reluctantly) putting minor hits like Patapon and Hot Shots Golf on Nintendo and PC.

>>712578358
They had so fucking many original IPs and they threw them all away because they're so niggardly that they saw zero value in any of them:
>Crash and Spyro: Universal offered to sell them to Sony, but Sony didn't want "kiddy mascots" to be associated with the PS2. Now Microcock owns them.
>Jak: Dead. Thanks Neil Druckmann!
>Uncharted: See above
>Ratchet: Almost dead now that Insomniac has to piss away all of its resources being The Marvel Developer
>Sly: Dead
>Demon's Souls: Sony spent decades fucking over From Software because they straight up didn't like most of their pre-Souls games and thought there was no place for them when they had GTA and CoD. Yoshida hates Demon's Souls and tells From to go fuck themselves. People import Demon's like crazy, Atlus picks up the localization rights, Bamco picks up From and now Souls is one of the big mega-franchises of the modern games industry. Literally the only reason Sony can do a Demon's Souls remake at all is because they technically own Demon's
>Wipeout: Dead
>Syphon Filter: Dead
>Lemmings: Yes, Sony owns Lemmings but they refuse to actually do anything with it
>Bloodborne: Sony managed to get a new exclusive From IP despite everything that's happened. Then Sony does a Sony again and kept interfering during development, making all sorts of demands which lead to a huge chunk of content being axed. Now From no longer does deals with Sony anymore, and instead went to Nintendo for a new exclusive
>inFamous: Dead
>Resistance, Killzone, SOCOM: Dead because they didn't want anything to compete with CoD. Oops.
>Horizon: Should've died, but kept alive because the guy who made it is the CEO for SIE's Studio Business Group and Head of Playstation Studios
>Japan Studio and literally everything they made: Exterminated because they didn't want to make a GaaS game. Team Asobi was formed because even the press (which Sony controls most of) hated that decision, and even then almost half of Japan Studio refused to come back

>>712578791
>Is that why they get so upset when you point out Switch 2 is much stronger than a PS4?
It's stranger than that. Even critics and media and DF said it wasn't gonna be PS4 level which fed their delusional minds it must be true. They really believe it was "Sony who chased away Nintendo from the console market" and they've posted Switch is "just a weak handheld don't buy it please" thousands of times so that's why they get so mad Switch 2 is getting third party support. It's not about power, it's the fact people are buying Cyberpunk on Nintendo. They actually get angry and upset.

I love all the "SONY IS A MATURE CONSOLE TENDIES ARE ALL BABIES" coping over the years, then sony releases a bing bing wahoo game and snoys all lose their minds thinking its the greatest game to ever release

>>712543114 (OP)
>>712543857
'younger'? Doesn't Switch 2 audience exlusively consist of manchild millenials?

>>712583962
lmao thats just the hyperautist buying day one, it'll drop once the autists get theirs and normies will take awhile waiting for a price drop

>>712584372
>IT DOESNT COUNT
lol 3.5 million

>>712543715
You can't say that when Sony is afraid of a little nudity. They don't treat you like a adult, thats why anyone with a brain is switching to PC

>>712584454
3.5 million scalpers, and they aren't even selling on resell sites

>>712550081
Then should abandon the west first mentality, fire all westerners and shut down all western studios, and go full on mrketing to just weebs and the japanese.

>>712584490
>coomer
>brain

>>712543734
That's a type of cope statement Xbox would say
Not looking good Snoys!

>>712552291
So explain modern pokemon or link dressing like a bitch in BOTW, and the sudden presence of black Hylians everywhere. Nintendo has been a woke leftist company for a long time already. They even embraced the type A and type B bullshit to pander to trannies. There's no way you're gonna fucking tell me Jewtendo is not a woke and pozzed SJW company now.

>>712584497
nintendo provided enough stock and forced retailers to limit pre-orders to counter scalpers
sony lost

what does the PS offer you that PC can't?

>>712543857
>Switch 2, Xbox, PC
Any combination of these 3 is the winning formula going forward. There is no reason to own a PS, it used to be them blowing wad after wad on mid movie games, but they don't even do that anymore, it's a live service-station

>>712584729
This post is brown.

>>712557662
What is the point of the camera images?

>>712584956
I hope it's mandatory to show your ugly mug while playing videogames one day if things get dystopian enough

>>712567903
Yak 1 & 2 FLOPPED on Wii U so he assumed it was because Nintendo = 4 kidz and not just that the Wii U itself was a massive flop.

>>712584065
I did say Little Big Planet/Sack Boy.
...I was going to argue that Uncharted wasn't ditched...but holy fuck they haven't even done a release remaster in years right?
Lmao.
Fucking Hell.
This is just sad.

>>712584178
>Sony owns Lemmings
WTFH?
>DemonSoul+Bloodborne
what a crime.
>Killed all their FPS/TPS games to save CoD...that they don't own...but Nintendo has Splatoon which will forever cuck CoD/battlefield should they ever run back especially in Japan
succulent irony.

>>712585496
Sony got Lemmings when they bought Psygnosis. Outside of like a PSP version they haven't done shit with it.

>>712584956
some people want to see their friends get ass mad when they get stomped in MK or splatoon.

are people unironically looking forward to anything in the fucking PS5 or 6 or whatever?
mind you, buying a console on release is fucking retarded, no matter which one

>>712585608
And Sony killed Psygnosis because they don't know how to handle anything they buy.

>>712585725
I've seen plenty of Sony fanboys who wish the PS6 is 2030 because they feel "this generation haven't started yet."

>>712582992
>I still believe that Marathon could make out just fine even without the live-service.
I don't see how. Its visual neon style is the only unique thing about it at all and even then it's stuck in this dark, dreary, dismal world. Everything else about it just plain old sucks or looks uninteresting at the best of times.

>>712543378
>Sony is creating stuff for adults, nintendo creates for toddlers and imbeciles.
Adults are toddlers and imbeciles.

>>712558465
At this point the schizo in me is starting to believe that game developers are paid to intentionally make massive commercial flops using the concept of 'team up and steal from rich people' because some guy in a boardroom ran the numbers and decided that making a dozen such flopgames saves him money if it dissuades one individual from actually robbing his house.

>>712588339
>'team up and steal from rich people' because some guy in a boardroom ran the numbers and decided that making a dozen such flopgames saves him money if it dissuades one individual from actually robbing his house.
wtf does this even mean

>>712585608
I thought Rockstar originally made lemmings.

>>712562164
>It doesn't have Roblox, just Minecraft.
Feels like Nintendo should get Roblox

"Kids graduate from Nintendo to Playstation" has been conventional wisdom in the industry for decades, but it turned out that said kids not actually graduating was one of the big factors in Sony losing near all share in Japan.

>>712584772
Xbox isn't necessary at all. Switch 2 + Xbox misses way too many games that PC has access to.

>>712567903
>Dunno where the idea started for him though, because Yakuza 1 & 2 were also on Wii U.
1&2 HD sold so poorly that they couldn't even sell through the initial copies they had made if I remember right. It was a disastrous launch selling something like 5k copies. That's why he was so anti-Nintendo for years, because when they actually tried to push into a market that itself wasn't exactly filled with games it did beyond poorly.

Granted, this is also because of dumb decisions related to the Wii U release. It came months after the PS3 version, was objectively worse as it had no trophy support or save data bonuses for 5 like the PS3 version did, and the only difference between the Wii U and PS3 versions is you can have the Kamurocho map on the Gamepad or play the game on the Gamepad. Otherwise the PS3 and Wii U versions are identical in quality of life changes, visuals, and minor improvements.

>>712576545
The Switch 2 is the guillotine that clamps down on the PS5's fucking NECK. It's just lile when the Switch 1 ENDED the PS4.

>>712577920
>so Sony basically had a monopoly on those
And the PS4 got outsold by the Switch, so was it really worth it? No, it wasn't. Nintendo mogged Sony and the rest of the industry combined.

>>712592421
>Kid graduated from Nintendo to Sega.
>Kid graduated from Nintendo to Sony.
>Sega already become a third-party game developer.
>Sony increasingly releases its games outside of PlayStation.

History gonna repeat itself isn't it

>>712584772
Xbox is like PlayStation but somehow more worthless, it's just Switch 2 and Steam Deck/Steam Deck 2.

>>712592421
its weird they say this while allowing their games to be on the switch

>>712593363
>Sega kept moving towards becoming 3rd party as they pander to the west.
>Sony continues to become more of a 3rd party as they pander to the West.
It was over when Helldivers 2 and Lost Souls Aside became day-in-date PC releases. Hell, there's Playstation games on the Switch 2. Console wars are over. Nintendo won, and by the time they discontinue the Switch 1 it would have beaten the PS2 in sales.

>>712543114 (OP)
>next to no titles from summer games fest coming to switch 2
I don't think Sony has any real worry since third parties seem to hate the Switch 2 way more than they hated the original Switch.

>refuse to release demon souls outside japan
>lose out on having dark souls
>pay fromsoft to make bloodborne for ps4
>still lose to nintendo and they get bloodborne 2

>>712593363
I don't agree for the simple fact that the way the two situations have unfolded is wildly different.

Sega was chasing multiple markets and constantly unveiling something new to buy over and over again segmenting their market making it impossible to keep up with their releases or with what you had to buy. They also overwhelmed people with costs for platforms that maybe only had 100 games in its entire lifespan or add-ons that were wildly unsuccessful. The Dreamcast was their last hurrah, and they released it with the VMU which just further added complications into the mix. Yes, it was somewhat future-conscious with the approach to the internet, but Sony's aim at DVDs was the smarter one in hindsight because it appealed to near future rather than the slightly farther future.

Sony's only "main" issues so far have been their obsession with high cost releases and zeroing in on GaaS to chase the money printer. They've learned from the Move and Wonderbook to not really chase trends when it comes to device releases, and they heavily supported the PSVR1 which led to a lot of good will for them until they underperformed with their approach to the PSVR2. The issue they have on their hands currently is that they're porting things to PC which devalues their brand as you don't need their specific devices to play their games, and they're still continuing to spend wildly on their projects rather than take lessons from the success of Astro Bot or even something they didn't make like Expedition 33 to lower their costs.

Microsoft is the new Sega. Everything about their situation and all their failures has pushed them towards now being third-parties in the market despite years of trying to claw their way out from third. Sony's only going to end up as another Sega if they make enormous missteps in the process on par with Microsoft which they have yet to make. Right now they just need to be cautious about their approach to the Switch 2 and actually release low budget stuff

>>712593363
Yup, just look at Microsoft. At this point, it's best to just go Nintendo and Valve PC.

>>712591808
It was developed by DMA Designs (who would become Rockstar) but published by Psygnosis, so they are the intellectual property owners and not DMA Designs/Rockstar.

PS5 pro already nearly cost as much as a PC.
PS6 definitely will. Maybe M$ correctly saw the writing on the wall and just said fuck it let's just sell windows gaming pcs.

>>712543378
Too soon anon

>>712543114 (OP)
Sony should've expected Nintendo would put out a new console soon. What were they doing?

>>712543857
>started listening
>first question isn't answered at all but replied with corpo bullshit "we have a community"
Is there a text version so I can skip to the quesitons and see if there's an actual answer?

>>712594912
the PS5 pro is already around 800$.
so PS6 will be more than 800 at least.
at that point, unless Sony fans are like Apple fans, people not gonna bite it.
their studio got bloated, and the game got bloated for diminishing returns in terms of graphics. So either they have to do a whole lot to restructure the company and studios or they push more into third-party to get extra revenue sources to cover the expenses.
they might not going 100% like Sega but they on their way to becoming Xbox 2.0 at this rate

>>712598631
praying that GTA6 would save them

>>712599090
>at that point, unless Sony fans are like Apple fans
snoys are brand cultists the diehards will buy it no matter the price then start crying when they get made fun of for having nothing but a PS3 port

>>712543114 (OP)
>we run the risk of their console being a bigger slop than ours.

>>712599090
>the PS5 pro is already around 800$.
>so PS6 will be more than 800 at least.
The PS5 Pro is $700 by Sony's terms. Yes, the realistic thing is you need the disc add-on because you'd be retarded not to get it, but the fact of the matter is they consider it a $700 machine. The costs to make it will also go down over the years and I doubt internally that add-on costs more than like $4 to produce, though I absolutely expect the meme price of 599 US dollars to be the standard for the PS6.

Sony's main problem right now is their ridiculous spending and chasing the GaaS trends. They have to stop making every game a AAA high-budget game and start to work with Team Asobi and funding lower budget games to get their profit expectations in check. They're sharing many of their third-parties with Nintendo and PC now, they don't really have many third-party exclusives now, and their old guard like Squeenix have realized it's not financially viable for them to be exclusive anymore thanks to the PS5.

If they can't lower their budgets and get shareholders to deal with the fact that their profit margins aren't going to be as enormous because of them not being as focused on AAA game releases then they're in for a world of hurt going into the PS7.
>unless Sony fans are like Apple fans
Every single platform's fans are like Apple fans except Microsoft. People were literally chopping up their PS4 and PS5 exclusive disks when they got ported to PC. People bought branded cardboard to play glorified minigames. Both sides are willing to put up with a lot.

>>712599556
>The costs to make it will also go down over the years
that doesn't matter to a company as greedy as sony they've only ever INCREASED the price of the PS5s as time went on

Reminder that nintendo isnt beating sony
Sony is beating itself while nintendo watches with a mix of horror and fascination

>>712543378
What will Sony do now that sodomy is becoming unpopular again?

>>712584772
xbox has no exlusives and switch 2 is sloppy shovelware machine

>>712600156
>t-t-they aren't winning!
3.5 million SOLD in 4 days vs 3.4 million SHIPPED in a month

>>712600289
>they aren't winning
I never said that though?
Please read anon-kun

>>712600235
He says as a seething snoy is adding every 'pregnant frozen elsa dressup'-tier trash from the PSN store to the list of PS5 exclusives because the playstation has no games meme mindbroke him

>>712600373
I guess you may be right sony is too shit to even hope to compete with nintendo

>>712600648
This is unfortunately also why nintendos quality is getting a bit dubious, they dont really have to compete with a company that is speedrunning financial death

>>712598504
Yup, future is Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2, developers better start getting used to it and start learning how to optimize, lmao.

niggas literally only have to revive japan studio

>>712601125
that would require sony to admit they were wrong, kneel to japan, and beg forgiveness
and sony is too retarded for that

>>712601125
I will suck all the milk out of those

>>712601125
It's too late, it's over

>>712601125
>revive studio Japan
they also need to Hire/poach and train/retrain a lot of new developers which costs even more money.

>>712600972
>Steam Deck 2
deluded

>>712543114 (OP)
Sony has no IP

>>712601381
It and Switch 2 will be the only affordable options during 10th gen, it's that or nothing.

>>712600972
>developers better start getting used to it and start learning how to optimize

That's what the Series S is for.

>>712601125
>>712601187
That would require the studio heads at Columbia/Sony Pictures to be smart, but we all know with their treatment of Spider-Man, Venom, and other Marvel films that smart isn't in their repertoire.

>>712584497
>it's ok when Sony is scalped
shut the fuck up

>>712543857
Why does he looks like Chudjak

maybe they should try giving ps5 some games

>>712603681
games?

>>712604323
dios mio
la creatura del playstatino

>>712543114 (OP)
they're afraid

>>712604703
>sony ask about the magnets on the joycon 2 being possible incentive to buying the system
I'm gonna wait to see if the PS6 somehow has magnets on the controllers somehow

>>712604865
They better be Electromagnets like the Switch 2 ones or else they are fuck, too bad they invested too much in china

>>712560174
This is that same ass backwards thinking third parties made when their sales weren't making back what they spent with GTA6.

>>712605121
Unironically what are third parties thinking with this? That people that buy GTA will buy their games? Because that sound dangerously close to the “We want the COD audience” that infected all publishers during the Wii/PS3/360 era, hell that kind of thinking is why we got shit like the Ninja Theory Reboot of DMC, because Capcom deemed DMC4 a failure for not doing COD numbers despite been the best selling DMC game at the time.

>>712605519
>"a rising sea raises all boats"
i hear that alot in marketing but it seem retarded to think it applies to video games

>>712605519
These guys are purely retarded, the greed has rotted their brains.

>>712605664
Yeah specially because alot of publisher forget that the COD or GTA audience tends to be people that barely play games beside stuff like Madden

>>712605519
Remember they can set all the price they wanted, but the one making decisions is your.
I bought GTAV like 75% off.
I can see more studio falling cause they are delusional.
Sportgame on otherhand people will buy anything it shit out

>PS5
900$ (800$ console + 100$ online) for 480p 35 fps and zero games
>Xbox
850$ (730$ console + 120$ for online) for 360p 25 fps and zero games
>Steam Deck
PC but with 50% performance for 90% price
>Switch 2
470$ (450$ console + 20$ online) for 4k 60 fps for shitload of kino games

>>712605519
I wonder how GTA VI is gonna feel considering this will be the first GTA without the Housers

>>712605519
movie studios also have the same logic
>if a movie does well, it'll draw more people to the movies, and they'll try other movies
all it did was funnel people to one movie, and that's it

>>712605916
>this copypasta is posted right after ACfag whines about it being posted often in a different thread
boy I sure do wonder if someone specific got triggered by this and is posting it repeatedly to pad its count out

>>712606010
Consoles like Snes, PS2 and even GBA are fondly remember due big ass catalog alongside big titles.

Current problem is that PS5 have fuck all and big droughts between releases. Nintendo learnt this lesson hard with WiiU.

GTA would do fine and improve PS situation, except they have nothing to follow up or even hype up, monhun came and went like a wet fart for fucks sake.

>>712599090
>PS6 Pro for $1500
>Or Xbox branded PC
Easy choice.

>>712543378
They're both making shitty "games" (remakes, remasters, games copypasted from their previous entries for 10+ years and interactive movies) for mindless consumers with 0 standards.

>>712582447
On top of that Nintendo did major spending like a Mario Movie, a Nintendo theme park in Universal locations and opening up another store in a US city. While Sony is sitting on, a console, movies, tv shows and music and still stuck in debt.

>>712599090
Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 will own gaming next gen. There is nothing Sony or Microsoft can do, it's over.

>>712600561
>snoy, snoy, snoy!
It seems to be that sony niggers successfully managed to buckbreak nintentoddlers
They are still seethingly mad to this day

>>712601551
>switch 2
>affordable

>>712605519
>We want the COD audience” that infected all publishers during the Wii/PS3/360 era
Lets not forget when San Andreas and Vice City became a hit everyone was making their own GTA to the point it was infecting games that had no right trying to be a GTA clone.

>>712606376
At least they have the placeholder

>>712606625
Compared to what's coming after, yes

>>712606571
you wanna try again without the tears in your eyes

>Microsoft is afraid of Valve, so afraid that they canned their official Xbox handheld for an expensive Xbox-branded handheld
>Sony is afraid of Nintendo, so afraid that they're getting back involved in the portable market and making a very expensive handheld that can natively play PS5 games
This timeline just keeps on giving. Nintendo and Valve are going to kill Sony and Microsoft so hard and make them both go full third parties, lmao.

>>712561869
mgs4 desu, maybe uc2 or 3

>>712606761
More like "had" didn't they take that thing down last year? Of all the female PS character they chose her, not Kat, not Lara hell even Nariko would have been a good choice.

>>712606835
People also forget that Sony stayed that they WILL rise the PS5 price if the tariff situation doesn’t change,

>>712607201
its sony they'll raise the price no matter what
the tariffs already exposed them before

>>712607201
>>712607285
They will probably up the price on PSN again.

>>712606625
That Asus ally thing is already $500-$650, and the xbox version is going to be stronger than that.

>>712607394
and he announced PS6 has a very real chance of being $1000

>>712607285
>>712607362
True, it’s funny that Sony basically raised the prices to Europe and Brazil first which historically had always been Sony strongest soldier in order not to raise the prices in the US, i wonder how Europes feel about this

Sonysisters I don't feel so good

just release the ps6. it worked for the ps5 and that thing didn't and still doesn't have games.

>>712607495
considering switch 2's sales were also record breaking in most EU countries I'm going to guess they weren't pleased

>>712543114 (OP)
So it's a nothing burger?

>>712607464
Oh please, do.

That going make 599US DOLLARS look tame.

>>712607586
Oh yeah, it’s weird watching Europe switching to Nintendo, specially the UK, since the UK has been sonyland since day one.

>>712607667
Honestly what can Sony even do to turn this around? They can’t go the Nintendo’s route of been self-reliant that took Nintendo years to do, and Sony works on short term gains.

>>712607201
Yup, just to point out, the recent price drops was because Sony wanted to get rid of PS5S including Pros made before the tariffs, I can see a price increase happening soon.

>>712607285
Yup people wanted to blame tariffs for game price increasing but in a leak before Trump was even President, this was already planned a year or two ago.

>>712607667
More reason to see this happen I want to see every youtube shill and journalist why cried about Switches price to buy the paperweight only for it to not only be missing the disc drive but also the power supply and controller.

>>712607845
Their only option is to legit do a handheld but to brag and push power only to go back would not only make them look like hypocrites but piss of their fans.

>>712608103
>piss of their fans
Oh yeah that’s another issue, the audience the cultivated, it funny watching Snoys going gags over Astro Bot as if they didn’t spend years shitting on Mario and every other platformer even their own like R&C or J&D, the only reason why they care about Astro is because it came after concord and they needed a “win”

>already cancelled like 20+ liveservice games and nobody is hyped for Marathon and Fairgame$
>let's double down on the liveservice slop

>>712608349
It's over

>>712608349
This… This is literally gambler mentality, Sony needs an intervention now, like Jesus Christ How can they be this stupid?!

>>712603681
Nah, that sounds crazy. Let's instead make our own Sony Wii U tablet and spent billions on Bungie so they can give us bad advice on liveservice

>>712608547
I still don’t get what was Sony plan with Bungie, Microsoft literally let them go because they were a mess to manage

>>712608754
Literal panic buy after the Zenimax and Activision acquisitions from Microsoft. MS was now in control of Doom, Call of Duty, Wolfenstein and more. They had to get their hands on one big shooter franchise or else there could have been the risk of being left behind with nothing in that popular genre.
What else should they do? Bring back Killzone? Nah, we gonna focus on Aloy and Horizon now.

>>712608754
Mix of panic purchase and wanting more MTX garbage, they saw destiny and thought they could make more of those kind of games.

Funny that Nintendo avoid purchases and only get individual talent, unless company is working literally under their roof.

>>712608754
panic buying and unironically thinking they would take halo away from microsoft

>>712608754
>>712608931
It's literally a rehash of the Rare Deal. You're watching history repeat.

>>712543114 (OP)
Lmao, if Sony wants to fuck with Switch 2 sales, they just need to make a Switch 2 emulator for pc that works its best on first party titles and Switch 2 exclusives.

>>712608931
Yeah, Nintendo fairly rarely make big studio purchases. You need to have very close relations with them and special development history before that gets considered.
Like the developers of Luigis Mansion Next Level Games. or Monolith.

>>712609053
>>712609064
>unironically thinking they would take DK away from Nintendo

>>712607845
let's say they hypothetically
>sony japan makes the HQ move back to japan
>literally all SIE westoid leadership is forced to suicide as an apology on a livestream
>marvelous and CH team up with SIE to release next gen ecchi games
>SIE signs a blood pact to never censor anything because that's what age rating boards are for
>bloodborne remake and bloodborne 2 are announced afterwards
literally all within a day
even if this literal cosmic alignment of miracles were to happen, it still wouldn't save them because most people would either be indifferent, skeptical, or outright hate snoy THAT much and they would rather wait for the PC versions instead
they legitimately can't save the brand anymore, it's completely and utterly over in the purest sense of the word

>>712609064
>>712609129
lol

>>712609185
>even if this literal cosmic alignment of miracles were to happen, it still wouldn't matter because they're one of those "too big to fail" companies who ultimately aren't held accountable or suffer for their misfortunes.

You know, like Microsoft.

>>712609245
normally the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

too big too fall is just a myth, the bigger you are the harder for you to change and adapt

>release PS6
>Games still get made for PS4 because nobody is buying other consoles.

>>712609245
>"too big to fail"
heh

>>712609364
Normally the bigger they are, the harder YOU fall. Which is specifically why they aren't allowed to fall.,
>the bigger you are the harder for you to change and adapt
exactly. So hard to change that no one wants you gone. So lets see the world get by without sony electronics. Lets see the US government employees try to do work ona Linux. Oh god I can just imagine the DMV now.

Sony right now are so dumb because they found themselves into a very comfortable position. Playstation has never been more profitable - they never made this much money before. All while delivering basically nothing.
Why? Because they make money with each GTA, FIFA and Fortnite microtransaction sold through Playstation. They only make games like Spiderman 2 or Horizon out of obligation at this point. The sales of a game like Horizon pale compared to the tens of millions they make every single month by doing nothing except letting Fortnite and GTA continue existing on their store. And they use all those profits by gambling on their own big liveservice hit again and again and so far this has only resulted into massive flops - but they don't care cause the microtransaction money just keeps rolling in. They can afford to burn hundred of millions on turds as long as their lifeline results into record profits anyway.

>>712609537
Ubisoft is not one of those "too big to fail" companies, they only produce entertainment whereas the others were wise enough to actually produce something.

>>712606278
>Nintendo learnt this lesson hard with WiiU.
You're forgetting the part that even when they did release the titles barely anyone cared. It wasn't until the Switch where rereleases of these exact same games with very minor changes or additions got sudden massive boosts in sales. Yes, they had a dearth in first party stuff, but at the same time when they did make them it was a coin flip if anyone showed up for the games at all.

>>712610073
wii u only launched at the start of the nintendo directs so they hadn't built any traction for it yet and the entire games journo industry was trying to get back at nintendo for cutting them out, so anything on wii u was smeared horribly

>>712610497
>so anything on wii u was smeared horribly
cute of you to assume that ever stopped

>>712610526
Oh I know journo scum is still SEETHING
but in the early to mid 2010s they still had a lot of control
thankfully they're widely known to be a joke now and the directs are so strong that nintendo doesn't even bother giving those parasites review copies of things anymore

>>712610653
>nintendo doesn't even bother giving those parasites review copies of things anymore.
This right here is why many journos said there was no “Hype” for the Switch 2, despite clearly that not been the case, seriously they were never this blantant before

>>712543114 (OP)
Good.

>>712606278
Wii U pumped out exclusive software like a fire was under their ass. Nobody cared. Which worked out in the long run because all that Wii U software magically became Switch software and now everybody remembers them as Switch games.

>>712606660
Jak 2 was kino, thougbeit.

>>712611194
>and now everybody remembers them as Switch games.
reminder to this day goyim still think botw was a switch 1 launch exclusive
especially absurd when i clearly remember back in the day all the "you can just emulate the wii u version, same with xenoblade, the switch is dead on arrival" cope

>>712557662
that screenshot tells me the switch 2 is marketed towards groomers

>3734
engagers, yes
players? lmao
no quotes because total tranime death

>5916
>for 4k 60 fps for shitload of kino games
said no one ever.

>>712543114 (OP)
PS Portal flopped because it wasn't a handheld console. It should've been a handheld PS5.

>>712613369
>>712613492
new snoy seethe method just dropped?

>>712543378
fpbp
you would never find something as transcoded like bing bing wahoos or cuckcocked like legends of AGP empty open world on chadstations.

tendiepedos need to grow the fuck up and stop financing japanaese cartels whost strongarm developers into shitting out slop

why would sony be scared? They never considered nintendo competition or something.

>>712614072
damn hag
needs correction

>>712613553
double people have confidence in sony handhelds after they completely ignored the vita and those memory stick prices.

>>712614303
they didn't ignore the vita memory cards
they were pissed off at sony's greed and then stood back and let vita die

>>712614303
>>712614470
pretty much every single piece of switch 2 fearmongering becoming true with the new snoy handheld, including the proprietary SD cards, would be planetary amounts of karma biting snoys in the ass

>>712543378
100% true and accurate

>>712543378
>Sega does what Nintendon't
>Sega has its own console and handheld
>Sega making game for adult
>Sega started heavily carter the West
>Sega became a third party.

>Sony isn't Nintendo
>Sony has their own console and handheld
>Sony makes games for adults who graduated from Nintendo
>Sony start heavily carter to the west
>Sony start releasing games outside of their environment

History gonna repeat itself isn't it

>>712543378
>diaper vs adult diaper business

>>712543378
put me in the screen cap. XDD

fuck me this site might as well be reddit.

>>712608349
sure is gamblers fallacy in here.

>>712560337
this
he forgot the main audience for both companies

>>712614886
Sony was the one to kill sega
It also looks like Sony is going to kill itself

>>712614886
history doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes

>>712616587
who knows, maybe one or 2 failed consoles away for Sony, or they got bailed out and absorbed by the other department maybe Aniplex got them.

>>712616587
but its revenue is going up every year

>>712616813
And it's profits are dropping year on year for two years

>>712616813
Fat lot of good that does when they piss away so much on ideas that don't work.

>>712543378
Excellent bait. Get me in the screencap.

>>712567903
>>I don’t believe you need a Nintendo dev kit to release on switch
You don't. It'd be hard to test or fix anything without a dev kit, and Nintendo can be very anal so you'd be setting up yourself to getting fucked over, but you technically could release a game on Switch without owning me.

Source: me, am real licensed Nintendo dev, trust me bro

Mom warm up the tendies I just got MARIO KART WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRLDDD

Mom PLEASE clean my shitting bucket from yesterday.... IT SMELLS VERY STRONG..

Mom did you got my adult diapers???? I want to wear them and SHIT MYSELF out of excitement.

*boots up nintendo switch 2* MARIO KART WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD

MOOOOOOOOOOOM

Can I have your credit card?? THEY WANT MONEY FOR ONLINE PLAY.. I WANT TO PLAY WITH OTHER TENDIES ONLINE I WANT TO ORDER A NINTENDO TOY

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>>712614529
It already is biting them
>Shitch Poo will be $600 because tariffs! - PS5 and PS+ get price hikes instead
>Mario Kart World uses AI! - Sony announces AI focused studio
>Shitch Poo emulator soon! - PS5 gets emulated instead
It's getting comical