No mental health gays

Who feel off the hardest from those 4?

>>712758632
squaresoft easily

because the PS2 is the best console ever made and the second and third best were the xbox and gamecube, in whichever order you prefer

>crapcum
>great games
did you wake up from a 25 years old coma or what

>>712758632
Konami is a pachinko company now.

>>712758632
Who cares? They mostly do shit to mediocre content now at best.

>back in the day

They're all still doing it for the most part. Capcom is still constantly doing it.

>>712758759
>one gen Andy

>>712760987
>Capcom is still constantly doing it.

Jews (or the lack of)

Bandai Namco merger really fucked their output, they used to make incredible games in the late nineties
Square always kinda sucked, muh graphix and muh mature writing. Enix published better games .
Konami and Capcom haven't been good in like 40 years nearly

>>712757687 (OP)
the companies knew that a product couldnt sell if it didnt exist, so if someone came to them with a pitch they gave him a sack of money to make it reality
they werent all hits, but they were all the product of ambition

>>712758683
Square at least never abandoned the drive to make vidya, even if they had to merge with Enix to do it

Konami on the other hand tried to abandon vidya altogether to break into pachinko, with the worst timing possible as Japan was just about to legalize gambling

Laugh at Bombermanfags
>has 100+ games
>one of the most copied games of all time
>revolutionized multi-player in gaming
>had the first HD game ever
>launched the successful B-Daman toyline
>good Nintendo history and had a crossover with Wario and Mario Party 2 unused content
>has other crossovers with Pac-Man, Transformers, Yatterman and Lilo & Stich
>still gets BTFO in SSB and became a complete laughtingstock by everyone
>series gets overshadowed by waifufags and coomers beacuse of Bombergirl despite them never playing the game
>R got outsold by the new Momotetsu, a fellow Hudson IP that was only released in Japan.
>no console game for 5 years
>No games on NSO
>40th anniversary came and went with no fanfare or events. R2 flopped since nobody gave a shit
What a fucking loser. Imagine being a Bombercuck in 2024

>squaresoft
Glorious Iranian programming.

They weren’t. It was 80s slop. Vidya didn’t get good until the 2000s

>>712758632
is that lemmy

Blabla sloplike blabla mergers le jews le true art
Fact is that in the 90s and mid 2000s games didnt cost 200 mirrion and 1200 devs to make, 30 people working on a game can pump shit out way faster and with less dilution than whatever this current abomination of an industry does
>b-but they don't have to use so much resources
yes they do, niggers on this board will pick apart any graphic imperfections and shit on it and the general public is only hyped for games that look cutting edge besides some edge cases like balatro or fortnite

>>712757687 (OP)
they still had production pipelines designed for pumping out arcade games and complexity of the systems involved was still low enough that you could have teams of like 15-20 people many of whom were fresh grads working on their first real game
>>712760170
ironically konami is the company that still most resembles this dynamic

>>712762110
>we want smaller teams making lower budget games on 2 year dev cycles
>errmmmm why does this look like a ps2 game?

>>712757687 (OP)
Those companies (except Square) were all making games back in the early 80s, when the only thing that will make your game a success was solid gameplay that will keep players hooked so a lot of the staff were well aware about the fundamentals of what leads to a great gameplay experience. A lot of the most talented Capcom devs were working at Konami before, then they trained the newer staff members like Shinji Mikami and Hideki Kamiya so veterans will pass the baton to newer generations.
Nowadays only Capcom is still making stuff that has some of the fundamentals from those old days (GnGR even had Tokuro Fujiwara directing it) even if many of their games have left arcade game design fundamentals behind. Konami never cared about its employees so barely any great developers were still at the company by the PS3 gen and nowadays they either make crap or release outsourced remakes. Namco is in a middle ground between these two, although it is more profitable than both Capcom and Konami so it tends to be way greedier about it.

>>712762316
Unironically this. No one gave a fuck about Ghost and Goblins Resurrection despite
>having a lower budget than most modern games
>being aimed at masochists and hardcore players instead of something made for everyone
>being the revival of a dormant ip
>having enough attention put so that you can clear it without using a single gimmicky power up yet still including multiple options so that newer players don't have the roughest time
>had an OG directing the project
Most people just kept going "where's my Legends 3???" and similar faggotry. To be fair, the game wasn't the best GnG title but you'd expect a bit more of fanfare over stuff like bringing an old ip and director back.

>>712758632
I guess Konami since they basically stopped making games until very recently.

>>712762316
that looks better than any 3d trying to look realistic shit released ever

>>712762480
Only good post in the thread. /v/ is worse than Reddit and Twitter for game discussion now.

>>712758632
Squaresoft doesn't exist anymore outside Nomura.

>>712762807
>being so retarded you ignore a japanese company making japanese games for a japanese audience and being the 3rd biggest publisher on the switch

>>712757687 (OP)
Because studios weren't bloated messes back in the day. It wasn't a job to the old devs they were enthusiasts.

>>712759637
>Reading comprehension

>>712758632
Konami. They still have that fapbait bomberman thing and momotaro densetsu doing well but the rest is just remake slop made by other companies.
Square is next after that.
Namco publishes well receives stuff here and there and Capcom still makes hits no matter how many autists are mad about them, but they still have done plenty of greedy bs in most games.

>>712758632
Konami easy

>>712758632
Konami abandoned games entirely when koijima coudln't keep to a budget, minus beatmania and bombergirls. They still aren't quite back yet.

>>712761468
No one cares about bomerman so your bait is wasted and pointless. Laugh at megaman fans would have been more effective, and that series is just as dead.

>>712757687 (OP)
>How were they all putting out constant great games every year back in the day?
Because gaming didn't have a problem of right-wing chuds poisoning the well.

>>712763513
Alright, I suspect you're fresh of that other pol bait thread autosaging, but explain your logic.

>>712757687 (OP)
they had to.
now there's no need, you just make shiny graphix and the niggercattle will consoom your product
you don't even need to make the game run properly anymore lmao

>>712757687 (OP)
It wasn’t all great. If /v existed in the 90s all your classics would be getting shit on no different than today.

>>712763251
>Capcom still makes hits
amount of sales isn't an indicative of the quality of a game

>>712758632
Either Konami for being a gambling company that sells shambling corpse remakes, or Squaresoft for gobbling up PRIME enix and making both of them faggy woke companies

>>712758632
Konami until i get ZoE 3

>>712761717
I like that this guy made ultima shit in ff2 because he figured ancient magic should be worse and he had the code hostage so no one could do anything about it

>>712758632
Square Enix hasn't released a good game since 2016

Konami still has powerful pro baseball

>>712763964
September 4th 2018***

>>712763964
July 2017*

>>712757687 (OP)
Hardware limitations, lower budgets, and shorter dev cycles encouraged them all to actually take risks and innovate.

>>712757687 (OP)
>>712762480
It's this, for sure. I don't think it's at all an overstatement to say that the people working at Namco, Konami and Capcom in the 80s and 90s pretty much wrote the book on arcade games. They were enthusiasts and pioneers the likes of which the industry just hasn't really seen much of since.
As you point out, a lot of Capcom talent actually came there from Konami, and without Konami, Treasure, Clover and ultimately PlatinumGames never would have existed. And then from Capcom, we got Arika. God, what an amazing era of video game development that was.

>>712758632
Konami, which breaks my heart. I'd say they're easily my favorite of these four companies if I just look at games made from the 80s to the 2000s.
I'd like to think they'll get back to at least keeping up with Bandai Namco, but who knows. I'm just happy to see a new Salamander game coming out soon, I guess.

I think a close second would be Namco, really. When I think of Namco, I think primarily of their huge catalogue of classic arcade IPs. Tekken is pretty much the only one alive right now, and in a somewhat sorry state to boot.

Capcom has easily remained the most solid of the four for the last 20 years.

>>712757687 (OP)
The better question is which of these four were the best during their prime?

>>712757687 (OP)
These names meant so much in the 90s. Such a waste...

>>712758632
Anyone saying anything other than Konami is lying through their fucking teeth.
Square Enix went to shit pretty hard with FF after the PSX, but Dragon Quest was at least still good.
Capcom had that horrific period in the 2010s but they've been at least trying to claw back.
I don't give a shit about Namco.
But Konami? It's so fucking pathetic, BEYOND pathetic what has happened recently.
Most of their output is ports or borderline shovelware.
For their "major franchise" here is what we got:
>Silent Hill: Ascension (Shit)
>Silent Hill: The Short Message (Shit)
>Silent Hill 2 (Remake, Shit)
>Metal Gear Solid Delta (Remake, complete waste of time)
>Silent Hill f (Inevitably shit)
>Silent Hill Townfall (Very obviously in dev hell and it's another Western SH game, something that has never been good)
>Silent Hill 1 (A UE5 remake of a game carried by PSX visuals made by a guy who is as alien to AAA values as possible, take a wild guess, it'll be shit)
I honestly don't get the SH fascination. Contra had a couple games, they all sucked unless you don't actually play Contra, and Castlevania is still dead in the water.

Konami devs were unironically 200iq in the 80s and 90s and early 00s. The business people were turbo retards for not treating them well to keep them on board.

Because you were too young to understand how most of the games they pumped out were trash even back then, and now you live with an overly idyllic idea of the past because you have no place in the present.

Should SEGA be in that image too?

Can we say Japan has a gaming industry crisis? I mean, they are not terrible, but they aren't such a powerhouse like before. I remember as a teenager playing almost solely nip games, now mostly Western.

>>712766959
>>Silent Hill Townfall
what even is this? Is it supposed to be like an Until Dawn type game?

>>712767372
Post favorite video game

>>712758632
Square. Making tons of bad and failed games is worse than quitting the industry.

>>712767891
Nobody knows.

>>712767372
>le nostalgia

>>712758632
Konami barely makes games anymore, so them by default since the other 3 still make games.
Square is the most incompetently ran of those now though.

>>712767880
For me it's the exact opposite. Pretty much the only western games I play now are indie shit.

How is Square Enix still alive after their constant failures?

>>712757687 (OP)
I think there were just alot more games, and they had more freedom due to there being other games to pick up the slack if they bombed. Capcom and Square for sure had big fuckign stinkers even during thier peak in the SNES - PSX era but we only really remember the good shit. As opposed to now There's like 2 major releases from Capcom a year so if it's shit it hits way harder

>>712757687 (OP)
smaller team
lower budget
passion
and most importantly, weren't doing it for the money

game development got a lot more expensive so instead of competing with each other they all found their own niche and quality suffered greatly

>>712757687 (OP)
Sony wasn't polluting the industry. Notice how their quality and frequency drops around the same time the ps1 releases.

>>712758632
I mean, Namco was failing so hard they were bought by Bandai but I'd have to give it to Konami.

>>712763964
*july 27 2021

>>712767880
it was certainly the case during the 7th and 8th generations
nowadays japanese games seem to have a resurge, whereas American triple a games are being highly scrutinized

>>712769304
all 4 of them released great games on the ps1

>>712764758
>>712766959
konami is the greediest, laziest of the four and by pretty much all accounts essentially a black company but it is also the one who is actually doing low budget small team arcade games with 1-2 year dev cycles.

>>712757687 (OP)
konami is trash, and square enix is pretty subpar these days
capcom was also subpar during the 7th and 8th gens, but is seeing a great resurgence in games these days (vampire mommy helped)

>>712769916
There's always July 22nd 2022

>>712770257
Not compared to what they were doing before.
Square and final fantasy in particular took a nosedive.

>>712770396
cope 6troon

>>712758632
Squarsoft

In a vacuum Konami and maybe even bamco are worse but in terms of drop off square soft to square enix is crazy

>>712770396
eh maybe. I dunno I found them to have around the same output in the snes and ps1 snes.

>>712765478
capcom and its not even a question, even when they did movie tie in games they were gold.

There was nothing attached to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJXzgaPif8 that wasnt pure gold

>>712770756
output in the snes and ps1 gens.*

>>712757687 (OP)
Things were better before shareholders realized just how much power they truly had over the cuckecutives.

>>712770756
>>712770825
I mean, you can just look at what they made for both to see that isn't the case.