Why aren't you playing Wonderous Waves?

>>712803079 (OP)
I can do that in echo point nova except I'm also shooting mecha with a grenade launcher.

>Wuwack thread
>look inside
>dead thread
so much for your Genshin Killer

>>712803079 (OP)
Heighty re m ind e r

>>712803079 (OP)
Sell it to me, anon.

>>712803079 (OP)

>>712803079 (OP)
I'm white.

>>712803079 (OP)
I tried it but the writing seemed really shitty, at least based on the opening

I'm not sure why I'd bother playing a game with dumb writing. Maybe they should have put more effort into that

>>712804304
Again, shin?

because ZZZ is more fun

>>712804936
This

It's been over since genshit went into decline. All these clones are extremely soulless.

>>712803079 (OP)
I prefer zzz and others

Because I pick the gacha I play based on how appealing the characters look and all of these chink games have the same sticks running around

>>712804707
>I'm white.

What a coincidence this successful white gentleman also plays it

>>712803079 (OP)
I genuinely would if I could skip the entire story and every side quest in one click, but sitting through that garbage is some of the most brain numbing shit I've ever experienced

Genshin is shit. Why would I play Genshin at home?

>>712804936
This, unironically

>>712805952
He only plays it because he kept asking Genshin for a sponsor and they wouldn't give him one. It was such a big hit to his ego he refuses to ever play Genshin.

>>712804936
ZZZ fucking sucks
Dogshit spam to win combat, god awful writing now with extra chink wank, and they've managed to destroy the charm and vibe of the game since you're just a magic man now

>>712806942
...i'm sure he reaaaaaally needs that Genshin sponsorship money

>>712808680
you don't play

>>712803079 (OP)
Because Anne is the best Bronte.

>>712809056
I have, thoughever

>>712804936
>press ult = i-frames
>press skill = i-frames
>press attack = i-frames
I can literally 3 star deadly assault without moving, dodging or parrying even once, I tested it. Therefore, ZZZ has no gameplay, it's all an illusion and your button presses don't matter.

>>712809608
you described wuwa though
https://files.catbox.moe/huv2dq.webm

>>712809679
>level 45
Good one anon

>>712809768
>it doesnt count because numbers arent high enough
do you lose the ability to parry by mashing after leveling up? lol

>>712803079 (OP)
because I'm not a virgin

>>712803079 (OP)
what's the point of those fancy air dashes if there's just a flight button?

>>712803079 (OP)
>add fancy movement mechanics
>remove exploration
Bravo Solon Lee, I uninstalled

>>712810008
what do you mean

>>712809608
>and your button presses don't matter.
Wuwa added a flying event that you could 3 star with zero inputs. It would auto fly you into the checkpoints.

>>712809883
Unironically yes, because they'll have a larger moveset with less parryable attacks.

>>712810217
so you dont lose the ability to parry by mashing kek

>>712803079 (OP)
Put your trip code back on and kill yourself you filter evading piece of shit.

>>712809679
disingenuous showcase since memphis has like a parry on all his attacks
you cant spam your way through an enemy that doesn't have so many parries

>>712810139
Please tell me you don't play the game and are just asking out of curiosity cause if the average gacha player is so dumb they actually didn't notice I'm gonna fucking kill myself

>>712810493
I only play ZZZ since is more chill

>>712810251
Point is you have to dodge eventually, in zzz you don't. You don't need to parry in zzz either. Or move.

>>712810251
>so you don't lose the ability to parry by mashing kek

He literally says that the move set changes and the boss will start using attacks that can't be parried by mashing

the initial argument was that there was no difference between lvl 45 and above
there clearly is

>>712803079 (OP)
Hoyoverse games outside of maybe Genshin Impact feel too modern

>>712810570
post your 3 star clear without dodging, parrying or moving

>>712803079 (OP)
Can I get big elf woman if i play now?

not on steam deck

>>712810663
If the thread is still alive in 30 mins I'll record it.

>>712810803
ill keep it bumped
i wanna spam it in /zzz/ threads
out of curiosity, are you using miyabi?

>>712810683
You can reroll until you get her or through the free pulls from playing the game, obviously it's better if you reroll since you can use the free pulls for the future

her banner ends on July 3

>>712810885
Yes but I'm sure I could do the same on other chars, I'll try.

>>712810987
if possible try someone else because its everyone copes that miyabi is too strong and has too many iframes but good luck anyway

>>712810987
Looking forward to it.

>>712810387
schizo

>>712809010
Rich people are known for turning down money

your webms are shit and arent a good representation of the game

>>712810559
>>712810139
Ok so basically WuWa 1.0 had normal Genshin exploration, the areas were kinda small and QC was a bit shitty but it's a decent enough way to waste time for someone who likes the genre
In 2.0 area all the randomly scattered chests get replaced with this gay as fuck ubislop activity checklist that you click and it just marks all that shit on the map for you.
They even added respawning chest mimics everywhere that drop nothing and just make you waste time, probably to frustrate anyone still trying to find shit themselves and make you click on the fucking checklist.
Shit is straight up awful, you just fly from marker to marker, and do things like
>kill 10 boars in 3 minutes while parrying and dodging 3 times each
and I never see anyone talk about it, apparently sucking off the latest trailer and retarded arguments about p2w one button mobile combat are more important for the modern gacha auidence
tldr: the "game" part of this game is shit, don't play it

>>712804172
this

i just hopped into make sure you fat weeb failures know how much of a failure you are if you play gacha

You are being taken advantage of by bug devs. they do not care about gaming, only using you

carry on fatties

>>712812619
>reddit spacing
>supporting a mentally ill kike shill who shills for every single western gambling scam
Kill yourself, subhuman shitskin.

>>712812302
I honestly prefer that it's marked, I had a Youtube video opened at 1.0 china trying to 100% the area

>>712811036
Well here's miyabi for starters.
https://youtu.be/r9PUvUw7ldc?si=Gf_csQcAiGM9eohN

probably the best gacha on PC

>>712804936
Based

>>712812913
So which part of the game do you actually enjoy?
Reading GPT translated chink writing?
Mashing the same 3 buttons in yet another baby difficulty roguelike mode?
You're the reason we can't have nice things.

When does it become shilling?

>>712804575
>5 attacks
>Takes longer than reading a leftist meme

>>712813141
There's a part where you had to follow a line of flowers like a fairy, how was I suppose to know that would bring up a chest

>>712803079 (OP)
Gatcha slop with good movement mechanics is still gatcha slop.

>>712813714
IKR gacha fatigue came to me so suddenly. I played girl's frontline for ages, I love the story and characters, but boy I hate girl's frontline 2 which is designed after all other gacha games with thousands of things you "must do" to get thousands of currencies for different things.I just want to enjoy the story.

Switch 2 port when?

>>712813141
stay mad retard

>>712811806
I can't win against those

>>712813637
I mean old Genshin was full of things like this, you'd get chests for using the rock skill in place of a missing statue, or breaking boxes on top of a pillar in some ruins. Also pic related
It's not that hard if you just take it slow and pay attention.
This is called good game design, and it's that secret sause which is missing from all the shit that came after it

>casinoslop

>>712803079 (OP)
Game is too heavy for both phone and PC.

>>712813637
>game is about exploration
>why do I need to explore?
nigga, just play some shitty auto battle gacha instead.

I dropped genshin after fontaine and before the brazil/blacks region and I play wuwa now, but genshin had a better story and wuwa has no puzzles or exploration post 2.0 and it's pretty gay.

1.0-1.4 were fantastic and I had no complaints. Now we get Zani having a stupid cape, no standalone Fleurdelys, Cantarella censored, no puzzles or hidden exploration objectives, bad pacing and bad story(though 2.2 and 2.4 have been okay), they don't release 4 stars anymore, we've still never met Danjin, they gave a free 5* male and keep releasing shit males meanwhile not a single shota since launch, Phoebe was rushed out with no character progression or recognition that her cult murders women and children.

I tried playing genshin again but it just FEELS dated and I can't stomach it. I hope wuwa writing and characterization gets better, but looking at PGR that's very doubtful.

>>712818552
Oh, and the anniversary was dogshit. Even putting the lack of a selector or guarantee aside, the content of the event was uninspired shit.

>>712812936
kek
shouldve figured its gonna be astra+ceasar
thanks for delivering

>>712818383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcy7d2mNODw

>>712812986
Jeezas

all gachas are shit and i have a personal problem with anyone who likes them because they did irreparable damage to the whole jrpg genre, if you dont agree with me your mother will die in her sleep

>>712803079 (OP)
I heckin' love empty open worlds too chinksister

>>712819245
wuwa, pgr and zzz have better combat than 99% of jrpgs

>>712819138
>Hoyoslorper is also the stellar schizo
it makes sense now

>>712819245
Haha no and fuck u

>>712803079 (OP)
not on steam and guessing it has kernel level anti-cheat so nah i'm good

>>712819245
Gachas have as much to do with JRPGs being bad as they do with WRPGs being bad.

>>712819816
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3513350/Wuthering_Waves/

>>712819816
Yet you use Windows and an Intel CPU. Curious.

>>712819946
>install spyware on your machine

Is there yuri? No yuri, no play

Any reason why zzzkeks are obsessed with this gacha?

>>712820134
No and you're not welcome with your sissy faggotry.

>>712820134
Yes, it's a yuri game. There's a male version of MC but he's ugly and has a phoned in design, he's just there to milk SEA paypiggy self inserters.

>>712819816
>>712820104
Steam is a kernel level botnet that belongs to china, retarded nigger.

>>712820621
>game needs to pander to SEAnig who wants more beautiful for (you) waifus and not girlboss or male NPCs saving the day

>>712820621
>the constant promotions of male Rover with female characters and female Rover with males
Kek, now this is actual cope. Also
>yuri goddess
>literally just a goddess version of Lucia from Kuro's other game PGR, where every playable girl character is shipped straight for a male audience

>>712803079 (OP)
I only have time for one gacha and I pick Blue Archive because it only has girls

>>712803079 (OP)
NTR game

>>712803079 (OP)
i don't play gacha games

I am playing thoever. Septimont has been a great update so far.

>>712821384
SKK is female.

>>712805952
>jewrat
>white

>>712805952
It's funny how many doubles he has gotten on stream. Kuro is not even subtle kek.

>>712820104
In exchange for big boob anime girls, yes

>>712823063
Yeah, only when catered to the male characters where your self-insert is written like a girl.

Besides that, SKK is male when specifically catered to the female characters and this is further emphasized by them using a male design in promotions when shown with different girls. Hell they only finally designed female SKK very recently to accomodate for the opposite gender with very distinct differences in design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmJjwu7PykM

>>712824196
>punishing GREY raven
>commandant's hair is grey
pottery

>>712803079 (OP)
Dont you idiots get tired of the 1:1 genshin clones? Then again, retards dont get tired of the 1:1 Dark souls clones either. Gamers really are in desperate shambles.

>>712803079 (OP)

>>712824781
wuwa is what genshin could have become if they reinvested into the game and leaned more into male pandering.

>>712823063
Not my Gary he ain't.

>>712824781
How many Genshin clones have been released and not in beta/release soon? Wuwa and ToF?

>>712820071
I think I fell asleep.

>>712824956
From what I read Wuwa ruined exactly the things I enjoy Genshin for: open-world exploration, secret hunting, puzzles and random encounters.

>>712827508
>don't use flight
>don't use the map tracker
There. Knock yourself out.

>>712828014
When there is flight, they're not going to be designed around being unseen from ground, need climbing, etc.
Also, there are probably no jumping stones or warp rings, because flying makes anything like this kind of unnecessary.

>>712828014
It's shit and empty. No secrets and nothing to find. Attention to detail isn't great
Playing like this only makes the game look worse than it already is

>>712828495
>flying means they won't put thought into the world
heh, I saw this coming a mile away.
I was going to address this in my previous post, but I didn't because too much typing tires my fat sausage-like fingers. I guess I'll do it now tho.
>there are probably no [movement gimmicks]
When they added flight, they also added speed boosts to pathways, boats to waterways, points that let you jump long distances, and grapple points to take you up to higher areas. You really don't have to fly if you don't want to.
>>712828957
How new.ru? Every open world game will have shit like that.

>>712803079 (OP)
>why aren't you playing chink censored open world gachaslop #76393

>>712826539
hes just a retard who doesnt legit believe the shit hes typing
there are no genshin clones because they require insane level of funding

>>712829442
>chinkslop censorship
>you are not allowed to see cameltoe
>westoidslop censorship
>you are not allowed to see attractive females
I'll take the lesser evil

>>712829371
>Every open world game will have shit like that
Pathetic damage control, Genshin's Liyue and Mondstadt were built to a much higher standard than this shit.
The map in WuWa is like an extra activity to waste time, the main attraction is soifacing over prerendered action sequences, QTEs and fancy setpieces meant to be seen once and immediately forgotten.
The fact you shill this as "better" says a lot about your character. Apparently Genshin had too much game for the average gacha nigger circa 2025

>>712812302
both genshin and wuwa have terrible "exploration"
this was always the case. they are both checkbox simulators. the only appeal are the rewards
it was never organic
if you enjoy the exploration in these games, you should be put down

if you want good exploration, play botw/totk.

>>712829743
kek

>>712831191
>le it was always bad
fuck off
Genshin > botw

>>712805952
sigh... I guess I'll have to install and enjoy it

>>712830471
I can confirm this. I started Genshin few months ago right after finishing Skyrim + DLCs, and I'm enjoying Genshin even with background like this which is still fresh in my memory.
>>712831191
> if you want good exploration, play botw/totk.
Release it on PC and I'll consider playing it.

>>712830471
>>712831849
This shit looks the same

>>712832495
they basically do have the same artstyle
genshit was a lot more soulful previously though
sumeru, fontaine to an extent and natlan are incredibly soulless world design-wise and the """puzzles""" are so shit they shouldn't even be considered when comparing the two games

>>712832495
It is not for you then.

>>712832712
yes, nu-Genshin is bad, that's the entire reason WuWa stays afloat
>>712832495
this dude is blind

>>712833120
>nu-Genshin is bad, that's the entire reason WuWa stays afloat
it's literally the reason I dropped genshit and went over to wuwa
loved everything up til sumeru which started out strong but overstayed it's welcome, because it was way overambitious
fontaine almost brought it back but it had a lot of high highs and very very low lows, natlan was the final nail in the coffin
there's like zero identity to natlan it's a beautiful area to be sure, but it has zero cohesive character and it's a pain to navigate forcing you to use their shitty """mounts""" or pull for characters with the needed traversal abilities

>>712832712
>>712832739
>>712833120
>sparsely populated grass
>muddy textures
>sharp edges
it's the fucking same
>b-but it's okay when my game does it because it's SOUL!
fucking gachaniggers.

I don't think we're getting that ZZZ video, bros

>>712833761
wuwa is slightly less polished but it makes up for it in a lot of QoL and just simply smoother gameplay

>>712833892
I have no idea what your stance is here, are you saying wuwa looks better than genshit?

>>712834048
I've not managed to take any good pictures of the new area yet, but I love the scale of it

>>712823383
I'd like to know how many times that actually happened to him on stream. The odds of it happening several times within a limited set of pulls is astronomically low.

>>712803079 (OP)
I kneel for Shin. To have such love and devotion to a game that he continues to make these threads knowing its a honeytrap for rabid wuwa haters that shit massive dumps on the game that he loves but it doesn't stop him. It doesn't make him dislike the game less. Revenue? Popularity? Doesn't matter. He enjoys the game, that's all that matters to him.

>>712803079 (OP)
Why didn't you fly from the first jump? Think you're cool or something?

>>712824781
Don't you get tired of thinking about that game all the time?

>>712803079 (OP)

>>712834048
>ummmmmm are you saying wuwa looks good?
Jesus christo, it's not some massive reply chain. I'm saying both games have the same shit but autismo is only spergging out about one game.

Safe horny designs. Not as bad as Genshit, but it's still chinkslop.

>>712834405
>grrrrrrrr why isn't the pious nun wearing a g string?
Snowbreak has a slutty nun skin for one of the characters. That might interest you.

>>712834048
>>712834180
>skybox pretty many colors high contrast
>building big
WuWa does a great job appealing to cavemen sensibilities with the fancy set pieces, but the actual world (that devs don't want you to explore) has sharper edges and lower entity counts than a 5 year old unity game. It's sad.

>>712803079 (OP)
I have sunk cost fallacy from all the money and time investment in Genshin so this game makes me foam at the mouth to see others investing theirs in this slop instead

>>712803079 (OP)
because i play genshin impact

>>712834759
Maybe my caveman sensibilities are too high.
But what I gather from these posts
>Looking at sky = le bad
>Looking at ground = le good
?

>>712834527
>Safe horny
Nah. Safe horny is shit like feet muscle girls. Stuff that is outside conventional titillation. Wuwa is firmly in the dangerous horny territory, it's just not gratuitous like coom focused gacha. Like, zani's base look doesn't show an inch of skin but her shirt is fit to burst, and her pants are skintight.

>>712803079 (OP)
I do play gathering wives. I also enjoy ZZZ. these are my two gacha games of choice

>>712834962
Yes, unironically. Sky is just a glorified JPEG, the ground is where it's really at.

I'll never play it but I touch myself to Phoebe and that elf lady

>>712834759
>that aliasing
bwo, what settings do you play on?

>genshin clone
Wuwa is an elden ring-like.

will 7 wuwa genshit flop?

>>712803079 (OP)
Pampering r emin d er

>>712835316
Max settings with engine.ini hacks to increase LODs. That's what UE4 looks with TAA off, you're welcome.
>turn the AA on
Bro the blur in this is obscene, like genuinely unplayable. It's so bad, Genshin's overall presentation looks better outside highly curated bullshots just by virtue of not being made with Unreal Engine.
UE is so hilariously bad these days the image quality is worse than Unity. Yes, I'm serious.

>>712835914
>Max settings with engine.ini hacks to increase LODs
I just don't believe you.

>>712836387
I can reinstall and take all the screenshots you want if you keep the thread alive for 2-3 hours. Or just do it yourself, it's a free game ffs

Notice how most of the promotional bullshots have some weird sub 1080p resolution >>712834048 >>712834180
They're taken with the ingame screenshot function. In motion, without the extreme amounts of post-processing WuWa looks like complete ass.
Genshin has a much more honest presentation in comparison >>712831849 >>712832739

Why do genshin threads get deleted here but the wuthering flop threads always get to live?

>>712837210
Genshin threads have more uptime on the daily. There's always multiple genshin threads on /v/ every single day

you guys told me wuwa wonnered wigly!

>>712837210
multiple necrobumps from the 1 resident tripfag

>>712837210
>>712837210
Wuwa threads ARE genshin threads, idiot. You all congregate here like rabid hounds eager to take a big fat dump everywhere. No genshin thread up? You can bet your ass there'll be a wuwa thread for you all to hold hands and repost the exact same drivel day after day crying about "clones", pretending like everyone outside your hugbox doesn't see Genshin as a Zelda rip-off, which it is - and pretending that likes are celebrated in every other video game genre but not here, because those that cry about it expose themselves for only caring about popularity and revenue

>>712835316
He played on cope settings that's for sure, but that doesn't matter, he thinks the garbage shots he posted from genshit look "good" or that finding a few sharp slopes(fucking kek) on a massive game is somewhat a reason to call it ugly or whatever he's yapping about, so you can't even be bothered.

>>712816080
There's still a bunch of chests in Rinacita that aren't a part of "find 4 in this circle, dummy!". Some of them aren't even picked up by the lootmapper, so you do have to explore to find them, they just aren't necessary for the false 100% the map checklist shows you and i'd say it's a nice compromise. There was one area in 1.0 with so many hidden chests that event getting false 100% required watching a video, unless you went pixel-hunting or got really lucky.

is this genshin for incels

>>712838720
And here's the blur I was talking about
Shit is so bad it shows up on a 4mb 4chan webm. Thanks for posting that lmao

>>712810139
It's another bot, like the ones unironically promoting gacha.

>>712823257
Yes

>>712837749
It shut down the month it came out. Play Genshin instead. With have nice cock physics.
Genshin Genshin Genshin
crtl + f, Genshin
4 results
Rent-free.

>>712839205
>Yes

>>712838720

I can't even tell these chinkistani slot machines apart at all.

>>712838792
>it's a nice compromise
No it's not, there's like 50 of them on the entire map. It's just enough to gaslight the average tard that chests still exist, but you can walk for 10 minutes and not find any unmarked chests on a fresh new area. I wouldn't dare calling this "exploration"
Plus many chests that gave 40 gacha currency before now have standard pulls. This chest change was obviously done for nefarious reasons. And you fags are eating it up because you're shills or nogames SEAsian phone niggers that never cared about gameplay in the first place.
>>712838720
>>712839789
Phone aspect ratios, the second is a prerendered cutscene lol

>>712809608
Pic related

>go to wuwa thread on /v/
>bots constantly shit on the game for being gacha
>go to zoo thread on /v/
>no bots comment
curious

>>712803079 (OP)
>Why aren't you playing Wonderous Waves?
No panties. It's that simple.

>>712840765
I don't shit on ZZZ because I never played it.
>zoo
/vg/ tranny

Do I start playing ZZZ or WuWa? I find most of the girls in each game hot.

>>712841290
All mobile anime hack-and-slash things are the same game underneath, and that game is awful, pick whichever looks more appealing to you.

>>712841290
Play the one with the better girl on the current banner.

>>712803079 (OP)
Not lewd enough. Babbies first waifu collection

>>712841290
for me its turn based sloppa

>>712840408
>Phone aspect ratios
You cant post 4k webms newfag not that you would ever know kek, now keep coping and seething.

>>712840765
Where's the video of your three stars without dodging, retard?

>>712842665
4k is 4096x2160
Scaled down 2x it's 2048x1080
2048x1124 is a phone aspect ratio
The buzzword density tells me you're brown

>>712842851
not him but he already posted it see
>>712812936

https://youtu.be/r9PUvUw7ldc
https://youtu.be/o1h7-O6Afo8

>>712803079 (OP)
That is some very flashy nothing you got there

I tried getting into it but it was too boring

>>712840892
They literally just released a character that shows panties this update.

>>712812302
i was trying to to the running event (i recently picked up the game again) and it kept cancelling the run because it passed trough one of those fights, triggering it and overruling the event

>>712843491
Proofs?

>>712843113
>4k is 4096x2160
just stop posting you retarded ass gorilla nigger

>>712843589
There's 2 of them and they released swimsuit skins for 2 other characters

>>712803079 (OP)
>spats/shorts

Why?
I thought only Hoyo had to settle for safe horny due to being branded as a Chinese Softpower Exporter

>>712843771
You can't be serious.

Isnt Phooebe clunky to play as? The mode switching part. I think it should be a setting like with the Rover.

>>712843715
cry about it

>>712812302
Sometimes I wonder if I should come back to just explore the world and ignore all the gacha shit that got me burned out on the *other game* but jesus fuck this sounds horrendous, wtf were they thinking.,.

>>712843823
They released a swimsuit skin but that's the best you're going to get

>>712844181
You don't know what you are posting retard, it's clear to everyone you don't own a single 4k display.

>>712844280
Carlotta sex
Sex with Carlotta

>>712845164
good post

>>712844664
I'm afraid you're not getting your paycheck for this one, jeetman

>>712845401
What the fuck kind of resolution is 1, 800x600?

>>712845401
>4k is 4096x2160
humiliation ritual

>>712845574
Yeah, it's my CRT for fightans

>>712843532
Oh yeah, i hated that shit. Started in 2.0 so i was too low level to clear that challenge in time (Black Shores has a separate mob lvl scaling higher than in other areas for some reason and the challenge is timed so you can't beat it by slowly chipping away at the enemies). So in order to finish the running course i had to come back later after building my characters properly. Until you clear the challenge at least once it literally just fails the running course when you get anywhere close and avoiding it is impossible. Wonder who the fuck thought this was ok and why it hasn't been fixed. Sure, it's not that big of a deal, but it's still terrible design.

>>712841531
It's not hack-and-slash, that's a term for games like Diablo and Path of Exile.

>>712803079 (OP)
No panties

>>712803079 (OP)
wuwa is so shit in everything
>character
>scenery
>ui
>story
>content
>events
the only thing good is combat and that shit is below mid at best compare to other action games

>>712803079 (OP)
I don't like the characters

>>712844000
You don't really need to switch between them, unless you're doing some sort of bullshit solo runs. It's just a part of the rotation where you use either one or the other depending on her role in the team. It's not like she's clunky to play, it can be enjoyable, but the shitty part is that if you want to use her as the damage dealer you have to switch to Rover to apply the frazzle stacks, which is fine when you're fighting a single boss, but with waves of enemies like in WhiWa, the stacks don't get re-applied to the new enemies and without them she does no damage, so it's a pain in the ass. Cartethyia actually has a mechanic like that at S1 where she re-applies erosion stacks to new enemies after killing anyone that already as them. If they actually retroactively buffed Phoebe to do something like that, she'd feel way better to play, but yeah right, the only direct buffs they seem to be willing to do are to Rover.

I'm just waiting for Genshin to add a skip button then I can drop this and go back to that.

>>712803079 (OP)
echo grind requires a full-time job. I'm good.

>>712810008
>>remove exploration

Based. I don't wanna run around map looking for 200 of some stupid fucking item.

>>712831191
>if you want good exploration, play botw/totk.
>Collect all korok seeds
>Get a golden turd

>>712846969
no it isn't
those are action rpgs
hack and slash is like darksiders, kingdoms of amalur, dragons dogma

>>712832712
>Mondstadt
>Soulful
Mondstadt is fucking shit.

>>712803079 (OP)
Any lolis with guns yet?

>>712837156
>promotional bullshots
I'll take that as a compliment on my video game photography skills, because they're literally just screenshots from my game
I have a 1680x1050 monitor

>>712848707
Mondstadt is the second best region in genshin
it's just so comfy

in game event where zani finally gets to use her PTO with no interuptions would be nice

>>712848938
Literally one of the worst for how fucking boring and bland it is. Yeah, it might be cool to some retarded nostalgic retard, but to anyone else, it's another generic grassland. I hope after they fix the old characters and shitty character by making them viable, and before we go to Celestia, they reboot Troonstadt's design. Maybe they can do an event to fix Mondstadt's shitty design a bit.

>>712849416
>I hope after they fix the old characters and shitty character by making them viable

>>712803079 (OP)
Played it for 2 hours few weeks ago but had other games to check out so i did never log back

and since I missed recent anniversary events which was perfect time to start playing this gacha, i don't feel like playing anymore. Don't wanna play catch up game when rest of the playerbase has been grinding characters since day 1

>>712849416
which area is your favorite: :)

>>712850163
Can't have those other players in your single player game getting ahead of you after all

>>712804936
This. WuWa is a step up from Genshin but both have combat that’s way too floaty, and not in a good way like Otogi 1 & 2. The dodging feels horrible.

>>712850306
>dodging
>wuwa

There's dodge?

>>712850454
I mean, there’s not a universal parry.

i just started playing wuwa and have around 12 hours of playtime and the exploration is slowly grinding me down, is there any gacha game that's a little bit linear and not like this? only thing that's keeping me going is that i pulled cartethyia from the free convene orbs

>>712850539
Just skip the exploration and rush the main story

>>712850275
Shut the fuck up faggot. You know damn well it's all about collecting waifus so why do you act like a retard?

If you miss years worth of banners as a f2p/light spender you might as well skip a game

>>712850740
There's way more to wuwa than collecting girls

>>712803079 (OP)

>>712850793
It might be more engaging than most of other gacha slop, but it's not bar that's hard to pass. It's waifus wirst, game second

They could go Azure Lane route and put old charaters in the non time limited store or whatever but since just like any other gacha, they insist on releasing rerun banners alongisde new characters, they can go fuck themselves. My time and money can be better spent elsewhere

>>712850740
>it's all about collecting waifus
*hits pipe*
nta but I stopped giving a shit about pulling every limited once kuro heel turned and turned into hoyo lite in terms of greed. I don't need to pull them because the story has me spend time with them anyway. Now I only pull the ones that I get attached to, like cartethiya.

>>712852205
I play both this game and ZZZ and honestly I don't care about the waifu
What I like is being able to play anime themed games with fast paced real time combat

ANKO'S GAME!

Does WuWa have a private server so I can try it without all the paywall bs? I recall Genshin having one.

>>712835914
Nah Genshin looks a thousand times worse
I'm playing on a very high end computer and playing Wuwa after Genshin is like jumping from ps1 to PS5 visually

>>712852716
Sure, as a light spender I don't need every waifu, just the ones I really like
but that's the problem with limited time bullshit in these gacha games. If you play regurally since launch you have nothing to worry about, cuz you have been there through every content/story drop and you could make up your mind about every waifu you come across in the story as content was current

but as a new player you will go through all the same story bits and meet characters you won't be able to pull and worst part is when you start playing and grow to like a character who just recently had a rerun which you missed, and then there is failiing pity mechanic, yeah I still have some self respect left and Im not going to touch this cancer of a game

>>712834227
He got 2 Zanis back to back not long ago

What is even the main plot of this game? Genshin = find sister, HSR = kill Nanook, ZZZ = find teacher. Why are we on this planet and what are we working towards going to these different areas?

>>712853557
>I'm playing on a very high end computer
Sure you are jeet
Both of these games don't even need a 1080ti to max out

>>712855223
9800x3d and 4090, faggots cuck
Wuwa can make use of my 360hz monitor, I can also enable DLAA with dlss4 to override the shitty in-game AA and DX12 allows me to add ray tracing on top of that.
The latest update was such a visual upgrade (alongside bad optimization) that the vast majority of PC players are complaining about it running like shit on their rig, a 1080ti would struggle.

>>712855535
Don't bother with that retard, he's tech illiterate, he doesn't even know his own resolution.

>>712803079 (OP)
Self insert pandering shit.
I don't play games were the main focus is trying to appeal to the sexual fetishes of incel losers.

>>712855535
>360hz
>gay tracing
yeah ok shill whatever you say

>>712857158
I accept your concession.

>>712857275
and here it is, the /vg/ catchphrase

>>712857668
You lost and you have no rebuttal. Crawl.

Furius is a cheating motherfucker

>11 stamina
>twice the amount of cards at the start
>has more than 2 buff cards

>>712803079 (OP)
Selfish re mi nder

RATE MY QUICK SWAP BWOS!

https://streamable.com/b6j5y3

>>712803079 (OP)
I did, beat all the new content in like 6 hours and theres nothing left to do, game seriously lacks good repeatable content. The open world is an absolute waste of space being a once and done deal. the endgame is on a 30 fucking day timer, just so you can beat it in less than 20 minutes, can barely enjoy the new character you got, and a lot of the events have nothing to do the actual combat with the game, which is the whole reason to play this trash, now you gotta do random ass tower defence or yugioh shit, or some automatic flying superman 64 with no challenge at all, fuck off with that.

>>712858047
you're trying to brag about 360hz like you're some dumb kid stfu
next you're gonna tell me how good your 7.1 surround audio is

>>712803079 (OP)
No game has been able to do engaging gliding mechanics as fun as Bamham and that was 16 years ago

>>712858401
BOTW was a disaster for video games

>>712803079 (OP)
I don't play "Church is LE BAD" propaganda games. Genshin is better because it treats the Church with respect

>>712858281
I'm not bragging dumb fucking illiterate faggot, I'm describing how Wuwa allows me to use my PC to a much more complete extent than Genshin
Retarded fucking sack of shit, unironically kill yourself

>>712858589
you don't even have a PC
nobody who's smart enough to build one would mention 360hz of all things
you just read a bunch of words from the nvidia shillnote

>>712858231
>The open world is an absolute waste of space being a once and done deal
Facts. I tried not using the glider and just go where the the road takes me and other than pretty grass, there are no NPCs, no secret room with chests, no an interest crevice with a document to read, or any random small cave. Take this storm drain for example. It sticks out the cliff face--it invites you to check it out, and when I got there, there's nothing in it. No unique room, no chest, no puzzle.

>the endgame is on a 30 fucking day timer
You mean the card game/auto-chess? Don't events go in the permanent event tab along with the fishing and stuff?

>now you gotta do random ass tower defence or yugioh shit, or some automatic flying superman 64 with no challenge at all, fuck off with that.
True, but personally I want more level 120 elites with unique mechanics. But ultimately, my main complain of Septimont that it tries to be Leyndell, but visuals only--no caves, no secrets, nothing.

>>712858876
neck yourself, that's all you need to do really
your mother is suffering unspeakable punishment for spawning a literal cockroach like you and you'd do her a great service by ending your life
you can't read, you're beyond stupid, you can't argue, you're a literal subhuman
kill yourself asap

>>712859537
wow that's a fancy PC for a 3rd world net cafe

>>712804936
LMFAO YOU FAGGOTS ARE EVEN IN HERE YOU ARE EVEN IN THIS FUCKING V THREADS NOT ONLY THE VG YOU ARE SEETHING THIS MUCH HAHAHAHA

>>712859319
> I tried not using the glider and just go where the the road takes me and other than pretty grass, there are no NPCs, no secret room with chests, no an interest crevice with a document to read, or any random small cave. Take this storm drain for example. It sticks out the cliff face--it invites you to check it out, and when I got there, there's nothing in it. No unique room, no chest, no puzzle.
>my main complain of Septimont that it tries to be Leyndell, but visuals only--no caves, no secrets, nothing.

Those are the inherent weaknesses of open world gacha games
You can't get anything other than casino tokens, making exploration both predictable and uninteresting by design
Quests and NPCs will be bad as well because chinese can't write compelling stories and characters to save their lives, especially in gacha
They've realized that hiding stuff was pointless and the open world is just there as an echo farming zone and eye candy, can't do much more than that in a gacha if you won't allow players to earn substantial stuff outside of the slot machine

>>712859683
end it, rope
go and slit your throat, trust me everyone would be happier that way

>>712859864
u mad bro?

>>712859770
If the chink community and aren't brain dead like they usually do, let's hope we share the same complaints as them and we get some significant changes or improvements other than riding the gacha bandwagon with generic-but-tried-and-true world design slop.

>>712803079 (OP)
the game sucks

>>712859319
Tower of adversity and whimpering wastes is on a 30 day timer. Which right now is the only 'true' endgame we have even though it's piss easy right now. I wish they would just make the hologram bosses a weekly endgame challenge, that alone already adds some value to having strong characters.

>>712859770
Genshin has good exploration. The issue with WuWa is the flying, there's no point in them focusing on the "micro" ground exploration when you can fly around. They just focused on the macro pretty vistas from above.

>>712860084
they can't improve on the open world mechanically without changing the monetization of the game

honestly I already find the echo system to be a good idea, it makes the open world much more interesting than Genshin because you actually have a reason to go back to old areas instead of never setting foot there once you've 100%ed an area
what the game needs right now is an actual endgame rotation, a weekly one for instance
ZZZ does that extremely well with the bi-weekly refresh of Shiyu and DA

>>712860106
>HSR

>>712860339
the kind of player that would complain the game is p2w if he couldn't clear ToA. People don't know what they're asking for.

>>712860379
Genshin has bad exploration.
It used to be somewhat decent before Sumeru when the puzzles weren't as braindead as they were since 3.0 but ultimately it's just gacha open world
why would you explore when you KNOW what you're going to find? just casino tokens and terribly written npcslop quests bloated to hell

the flying is the least bad idea they could come up with as they're acknowledging the issues of open-world gacha to begin with

>>712803079 (OP)
genshin

>>712860580
Exploration in every collectable video game is exactly the same, what are you talking about. It's not, and never was about the collectable you find, but the process. Finding the puzzle, enjoying the vistas, etc.

Flying is throwing exploration off the window, it's just there to give you something nice to look and maneuver as you go from echo to echo when grinding. That's valid, and considering it's far more combat-heavy and aims for a more hardcore audience at the same time, I do think it was the right option.

Gibs when

>>712860927
When you know what you're going to find, the exploration isn't interesting.
I'm playing Enderal and the exploration is thrilling because it's meaningful, places look both intriguing and have reasons to be intriguing.
The post-Sumeru puzzles may as well not exist, they're an insult to the player and further sanitize the entire open world making teyvat feel like a theme park instead of a living breathing world

Flying itself isn't throwing exploration off the windows, but adding markers to every chest on the in-game map is what actually diminishes the exploration (which is what wuwa does as well).
However, having good traversal tools is, by itself, an enjoyable way to explore. Flying in Wuwa feels good and it would benefits Genshin to a degree too as I don't know a single player who don't use Natlan characters for exploration or Xianyun/Yelan. Genshin's movement option are pretty unsatisfying overall though, my C6 Mavuika still felt stiff to use despite the much increased bike uptime.

Genshin has prettier vista, better draw distance, and more underground structures, it's superior to Wuwa in those aspects but both games still have pretty bad exploration.

>>712859770
>>712860580
>You can't get anything other than casino tokens
Here's a solution: remove the weapon banner and give high-level gear as exploration rewards.
>but the balance
Reset everyone's gear and levels with every new region. This also prevents players from breezing through easier world content with endgame builds.
>but the company needs to make all the money in the world
Yeah, who cares if the game is good, am I right? Go ahead, release another worse Genshin and see how that goes.

>>712861689
Yeah that's what I said, they'd have to rethink their monetization system.
They won't and that's to the game's détriment.
It's much better than Genshin though, Genshin has Paimon and that alone makes it terrible

>>712862109
Well there's already like 10 basic bitch genshin clones in the pipeline

>>712862347
I am glad thats happening though, then solon will actually have to put in effort to keep up, otherwise everyone else will move on, since right now we're stuck between just wuwa or genshin, once ananta/nte/azur promilia/ak endfield/silver palace and whatever the fuck drops, wuwa is fucked.

playing?

>>712803079 (OP)
Because i dont play gacha slop.
And i know the word slop is extremely overused here but it 200% fits gacha "games"

>>712862554
Endfield is the only one with actual potential

>>712862651
Holy shit this game truly is made for retards.

>>712861689
>Reset everyone's gear and levels with every new region
That's a bad idea, unless you streamline the leveling up system. Building a character take weeks, and you want the game to reset your progress with a team of fully decked out units? Come on.

>>712848938
>>712849416
Mondstadt area is nice and simple. I find later areas more sophisticated but I enjoy Mondstadt as well.

>>712812302
I had more fun exploring Septimont and just looking at things this patch, than I ever had opening some shitty chest in a random corner in the entirety of the time I played genshin.

>>712862651
lmao playstation 5 gameplay

>>712834759
>complains about no exploration
>scours the map geometry to find details to support his cope
Awesome, seems like it all worked out in the end.

>>712862694
Not really, the combat looks mediocre as all hell and since it's gacha game the factorio element is going to be watered down to shit, because some faggot needs to be able to play it on his phone in the 15 minutes of his commute.

>>712863176
>Building a character take weeks
You want the players to keep logging in, right? Endgame substat grind is not a good motivator, the casuals will just say fuck that shit, and stop spending stamina after leveling everyone.
In fact, this happened to me and I quit.

Player retention is just a side benefit though, the main reasoning behind it is this:
The game is a fucking RPG, leveling and progression are a big part of enjoying an RPG. In Genshin clones you only enjoy the RPG elements the first time you play. For every area added after release you're already at max level and don't give a fuck about anything.
You don't make decisions
You don't look for new gear to use
You don't try new builds
All your new characters are instantly prefarmed to max level
Resetting progression every 3-6 months fixes all of this and it has a ton of other benefits.

>>712803079 (OP)
I don't play gachaslop.

>>712803079 (OP)
>This thread is still up

lmaooooooo this shit was up when i started work and is still here after gymming and showering holy shit hahahah gonna get a snack before reading all the seethe

>>712803079 (OP)
>green webm
jeet detected

>>712855074
>>712835082

>>712831378
>braindead chest collecting simulator is better than botw
10 IQ post
post your hand

>>712864934
I was under the impression that once you leveled up your 16th unit, you'll be free of grinding or grinding less, and do other things other than being tethered to one game because your year's worth of farming got wasted. Like playing Skyrim or building gunpla.

If i had to choose one genshin slop game as a time waster, which one would you recommend?

>>712867082
>tendie seething at a 7 hour old post
Extremely high IQ

>>712867195
Genshin if you're autistic and care mostly about lore
HSR if you truly want to waste time with a bad turned based game with shitty story all around
WuWa if you want a Genshin clone that's worse in every aspect save for the gameplay and the graphics
ZZZ I don't really know because the game has lost all of it's identity at this point

Just play a real game anon

>>712867435
I was away, and now I'm back, and I replied your retarded reply, you retarded nigger

>>712868051
wuwa's writing is not worse than genshin's
they're both bloated pieces of shit

>>712868051
>WuWa if you want a Genshin clone that's worse in every aspect save most of what makes up a game
kek

>boss has debilitating aura

>>712867181
>do other things
Like what, spam WuWa threads on 4chan?
The rationale is simple: if the game doesn't have resets you're less likely to quit initially but when you do it's over, you become like this guy >>712850163
And that's why every competitive slop has seasonal resets. Gacha needs this shit too, it's the #1 tool to prevent player burnout, and Genshin burnout is massive. Everyone and their mother already quit one of these Genshin-likes at least once.

>>712868168
wuwa's writing isn't amazing but I wouldn't call it bloated at all.

>>712869549
Hey........ I never criticized you for your hobbies...... And it's not spam.....

there arent enough characters with animal ears so i dont really care