Thread 712807706

Is she a bad Mom?

Oh she is bad alright...

She's a bad person and that impacts on how she is as a mother

>>712807797
This. She seems to love Kris genuinely but she's kind of... well, morally stupid at times.

>>712807948
Explain

>>712807706 (OP)
>stop masturbating for a week (too busy)
>this character suddenly does nothing for me
what the fuck

>>712807706 (OP)
Freak child = bad parent(s)

>Didn't notice a giant fucking bloodstain on her own son's room
>Susie does within moments of getting in the room
Yes.

>Lies to her child about going to church
>Instead, goes to visit Sans without telling anyone
>Makes Susie and Kris go into the dark world because the fountain is right where she's supposed to be and they are awfully worried
>After everything is over and they go through something truly awful, Toriel is nowhere to be found
>She's later found back home, dancing with sans and drunk
>Dismisses the way her child and his friend might be feeling about all this
>Gets banged by Sans and won't let Kris sleep

I'm rooting for Asgore so hard, man. No wonder Kris doesn't like (You), he's a victim of shitty parenthood.

>>712807706 (OP)
Town bicycle

>>712807706 (OP)
She's a bad bitch (I want to have sex with her)

>>712807706 (OP)
Is this the thread?

>>712814395
Don't forget just 24 hours earlier her tires were slashed and she was scared enough to call the cops and stop Susie from walking home alone. 1 day later and she's perfectly fine with her son being out after dark without even a phone call while she's at home drunk with a new man that just moved into town a couple days prior.

>doesn’t notice the giant bloodstain in Kris’s room
>doesn’t notice how Kris is possessed or acting different
>falls asleep waiting for the police to show up after seeing someone with a knife outside
>doesn’t question why the police didn’t show up and doesn’t care that the police chief is fucking missing
>Bad storm rolls into town, decides to get blackout drunk with a complete stranger without knowing where her fucking kid is
>parties till 2am with him without worrying about her kid trying to sleep
She’s a fucking cunt

>>712816179
>pancakes are not in the fridge implying sans ate them
she just outright sucks

>>712807706 (OP)
>her only bio child died in some weird murder suicide pact with her adopted child
Yeah I’d say so

>>712816356
Wrong Toriel

>abandoned the monsters in Undertale
>is presumably the town bicycle in Deltarune while trying to keep a god fearing public facade
Yes.

>>712814395
Don't forget, lies about there being food in the fridge. She cleared it out for sans's fucking ketchup.

>>712816502
>She cleared it out
Proof?

>>712816179
To think you went into all that detail, and still didn't even hit the major one.
>The family's fighting again.
The bitch's behaviour is a major source of trauma for Kris. It's baffling that tumblroids want to pretend people just hate her for the typical single mom getting drunk and fucking around thing

>>712807706 (OP)
Why did Toby ruin her character?

>>712807706 (OP)
She had one bad day. Give her a break. Imagine if you had Cringegore jumping out the bushes to flirt with you every damn day.

>>712816012
I genuinely think this is more Toby forgetting about it rather than Toriel being a bad mom.

>>712816614
I want to say she was never good, but I think back to how everyone believed by default during ch.1 and ch.2 that she just was

>>712816728
That just means Toby's a hack.

>>712816614
funi
Also to distance her from her Undertale version.

>>712816614
>ruin
You can still fap to her secondary-kun
Toriel was never a good mother, or arguably a good person

>>712816179
>>712816597
Why are posting that fanfiction character?

>>712816614
he didn't ruin it, he just added more to her

>>712816854
Can't speak for the other guy, but personally I'm just enjoying a sense of vindication while it lasts

>>712816179
>doesn’t notice how Kris is possessed or acting different
I thought this too, but she actually does. She went to the hospital to inquire about it.

>>712816764
i still can't believe azzy just kinda moved on

>>712816614
I'd argue she was always never the greatest
She abandoned all responsibility in Undertale to go live in some ruins
>inb4 they're not the same character
Oh yes they are

>>712807706 (OP)
Her fight theme in UT is still one of Tobis Foxius' best tracks in my opinion.

>>712816179
>doesn’t notice how Kris is possessed or acting different
But she does mentions that Kris seems off. Can't remember if that happened in chapter 1 or 2 though.

>>712807706 (OP)
Has anything new been discovered?

>>712816951
more for kris

>>712807706 (OP)
She's a bad wife.

Like the rest of the characters aren’t also flawed as fuck.

>>712816998
If you have a Ch4 save a new photo is added in Sans' lab in Undertale

>>712807706 (OP)
>Loved Toriel in Undertale
>She starts acting like my mother did when I was growing up in Deltrarune
It's like a switch in my head flipped and I feel nothing but disgust. I never really liked Susie at first, but I can't help but sympathise with her as the game goes on.

I still want to destroy Ralsei's innocence though through rape. I get some sick fucking kicks hugging that little faggot.

>>712816854
most yellowfags think that by forcing their super obvious hmofabait characters (…that is, compared to the subtle and less tryhardy hmofabait of utdr) next to canon characters that people will believe the game is at equal standing

Marketable plushie character for Chapter 1: Jevil
Marketable plushie character for Chapter 2: Spamton
Marketable plushie character for Chapter 3: Tenna
Marketable plushie character for Chapter 4: Jackenstein
Marketable plushie character for Chapter 5: ???

>>712816614
>fucks off from her job to chill in the ruins all day
nothing really changed

h

nerf the knight

>>712816845
>You can still fap to her
No, I can't anymore. I'm not into NTR

>0 posts about the game

Where are the mods?

>>712813135
>Who would be the funniest pick for the terrorists?

>>712817278
buff the knight (make her ass bigger)

>>712817278
buff the shit out of the knight instead so it's even more rewarding to kick her ass

>>712807706 (OP)
majorly flawed, yes. but bad, no

>>712817235
>Jevil
Anon it's Ralsei for every chapter
Also Ch5 is obviously gonna be Asriel

>>712817335
tumblr toilet humor

>>712817171
>(…that is, compared to the subtle and less tryhardy hmofabait of utdr)
It was never subtle, anon
I saved this 5 years ago

The real question is, why did Sans fuck off to a PU? Could it be possible that the soul kris is holding is the protagonist's (from undertale)?

>>712817321
I never fapped to her before ch 4 but now I am constantly tbdesu

>>712817139
>Undertale was updated with new content and scans your computer for a Deltarune save folder

>>712814395
Rooting for Asgore lmao like he’s not just as bad

>>712817449
That'd be funny.

>>712817362
Hard mode NEVER EVER

>>712816854
Yeah, Ceroba is still an infinitely worser character than Toriel.

>>712817491
>Is kind to you
>Gives you food
>Believes in you no matter what

>>712807706 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfYyBp4Ln2s

>>712817171
>compared to the subtle and less tryhardy hmofabait of utdr
>subtle
anon, there is entire almost rape scene with a human and doe in deltarune

>>712817449
Really he should've been doing that since the start
Also doesn't need to scan shit
Just needs to look at the default spot a deltarune folder would be

>>712817557
Does your brain just grow around the parts you don’t like?

>>712817613
I don't think gamemaker can do that

>>712816951
>Asriel moved on from Dess
>But not Chara.

>>712817139
>>712817449
>mfw i loaded my tp save and went all the way back to actually check
why am i this desperate

>>712817557
Using your own child as a surrogate relationship mender in your messy divorce is bad. Harassing your ex wife who you KNOW doesn't want you like that anymore is bad. Being a corkboard schizo is bad.

>>712817660
Then how did it know I have a non steam ch 2 save?

>>712816764
Shouldn't he be with another goat monster? How did Asgore find Toriel in a world full of random monsters? How did Rudy find Carol?

>>712817884
it can check the deltarune appdata folder but no folder outside that afaik

>>712817139
Yes, you must read the prophecy in specific order.

I love her despite her flaws.

>>712817449
FUCK undertale. MOVE ON ALREADY.

>No! Mommy is only allowed to hang out with people that I KNOW!!
How to identify a virgin chuddy 101

>>712818027
no
:(

>>712818027
Hmmm.... nyo.

>>712817650
Tell me two bad things about asgore

>>712818031
but we do know sans
are you implying people that didn't play undertale are virgin chuds?
that'd be pretty funny

>>712817510
>noelle's chinese cowboy impression is so offensive that kris's SOUL practically explodes and he is unable to ask her to stop being so fucking racist

>>712816445
Asriel is dead in Deltarune too, he meets Chara at college

>>712818087
1. Simp
2. Too nice

>>712818143
Kris doesn't

The Knight would easily solo Chara.

>>712818027
Ask Toby to move on first instead of making Deltarune parallel Undertale.

>>712818027
why?
it's actually a complete game.

>>712818206
so kris being upset at this could have been avoided with him shacking up with noelle or susie?
that's even funnier

>>712818087
Keeps giving stuff away, can’t run the flower shop. Keeps hassling his ex wife while it makes her uncomfortable. Trying to use Kris to help fix his fuxked relationship. More obsessed with former case and winning back Toriel than getting on with his life. Doesn’t give a fuck when Carol goes mental at Susie and Noelle. Too nice to the point of being pathetically taken advantage of.

>>712818234
>Weaker than Gerson who would get one-shot by Chara.

>>712818027
Deltarune is obviously connected to Undertale somehow
Why reuse the characters if not?

Why does that old fart Toriel slut acts like she's in her 20s
Why the fuck does she see in that retarded piece of shit skeleton

>>712818167
Chara kills herself in UT because to escape the Underground, and also to become immensely powerful, requires a Human and Boss Monster Soul to share the same body. None of that shit seems to matter in DR so there would be no reason for that whole scenario to take place.

>>712807794
fpbp

>>712818312
Hey, you don't belong here. Leave.

>>712817559
>>712818240
These overly edgy sans animations are so fucking funny

>>712818338
Gerson would dodge and Knight would easily kill Chara with his attacks.

>>712818360
the ladies love funny guys

>>712817248
Stop erping with cleverbot you sad freak

no one would be mad at sans if he invited kris for a threesome

>>712817701
Is it me or are people taking old chasriel headcanons and reassigning them to dessriel?

>>712807706 (OP)
She's a terrible mom...

Dess is a human

>>712818281
>why would (ME) do that? I fucking hate him

>>712807797
Tasque is electric, the mizzle's are water... Seems like a bad combination from tasque
god imagine her getting soaked in mizzle cum and blue screening

Blaming Asgore for being a schizo obsessed with blowing the lid on the Dess case feels disingenuous. We literally know for a fact that he is onto something. He knows more than WE do

>>712816594
>Proof?

>>712814395
forgot
>so drunk she falls and almost crushes Kris to death with her massive ass
although I'm not sure that's a negative

>>712807706 (OP)
Do you think Sans waits for Toriel to get black out drunk before going upstairs and raping Kris?
She's a single mother after all, they're not known for bringing safe men into their homes and around their vulnerable children.

>got a job so can't spend all day drawing Deltarune porn
Rip

>KOMM hates what happened to her.
Yes.
She is in deltarune, at least.

>>712814395
She doesn’t lie about church, she cancels practice because of the rain.

>>712818547
loser

>>712818458
he did, though

>>712818610
She glanced over to Sans when she said that
It was clearly a cover story so she could of cavort with a bastard bone man

>>712818537
How many anons are projecting their own shitty childhoods onto a videogame?

>>712818547
Hey, at least you will have money for commissions now.

>>712818409
Meira broke you

>>712818610
It's just water
The town has like 3 streets
Whats the danger?

>>712818610
She explicitly tells you to go to the church to look for her, then locks the house's door so Kris can't come back

>>712818340
Deltarune was made first.

>>712818027
No.

>>712818610
>Monstertown never invented umbrellas

>>712818724
Kris should have a key. He has a phone, why doesn't he have a key?

>/v/hu posters
Ah. Suddenly the massive dip in quality makes sense. A shame.

Post some tunes you dig.
https://youtu.be/7f1RK1m7qvc?si=6GRVyj9DFwalbwbd

>>712818537
>Do you think Sans waits for Toriel to get black out drunk before going upstairs and raping Kris?

No Papyrus is

>>712818338
Deltarune Gerson is stronger.

>>712818792
Ask Toriel, not me

>chapter 5 start
>sans is havong breakfast with Toriel

>>712818338
>who would get one-shot by Chara.
Chara one shots every monster. But LOVE doesn't seem to apply to Deltarune.

>>712818849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcy7d2mNODw

>>712818849
No, I'm asking Kris. We already know he hides shit from us.

>>712818792
How much do you wanna bet he lied about not having a key?

>>712818429
Someone could also dodge Chara attacks and yet was still BTFO'D.

>>712818857
Not on my watch

>>712818967
Sans is a lazy pipsqueak who can only deal 1 damage and has to exploit the battle itself in order to be a threat.

>>712818696
I know I am

>>712818812
no one ever really talks about the mike theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-DvoCTarMQ
i liked it

>She left Kris and Susie out in the rain bro!
>mention that she cancelled choir because of rain
>just use an umbrella bro wtf

>>712819020
Atta Kris, you did the world a favor by removing that annoying skeleton.

>>712819062
Can't talk, too busy grooving

I wonder if they'll do the same thing to Asriel and Asgore.
Just kinda drag them through the wringer as a lesson/punishment for not letting these characters go.
At least that's what I see with what happened to Toriel.

>>712819046
>who can only deal 1 damage
Sans poisoning you with Karma unironically prevents him demolishing you in seconds

>>712819020
>LV doesn't go up

>>712818537
>Cunnychad Sans ends up winning.

>>712807706 (OP)
she's a great mom
https://static1.e621.net/data/c8/5e/c85e9c2cd8e31ce12a7af65dc16a6a72.webm

>>712818537
>frisk x sans is one of the most popular sans ships
it all comes back to haunt him. THAT SKELETON FUCKS KIDS

>>712819118
Toriel always had these flaws.

>>712818908
I mean, Chara destroyed the entire underground so he can destroy a whole fucking city with a single hit.
Also the real knife has 99ATK, it's stronger than any other DR weapon
And Chara must be good at evading shit, the only thing that makes him weaker than the trio is that he'd only have 99 HP

>>712819118
How is it a punishement? Nothing she did in Deltarune clash heavily on her Undertale behavior.

>>712818795
Yup. YUP.

>>712819189
As did Asgore and Asriel

>>712819193
Making it even less subtle for the people who couldn't see it in UNDERTALE.
>>712819189
I know.

>>712818857
>Sans apologizes for the noise last night
>gives kind fatherly advice to Kris
wholesome?

>>712818463
Nah, I see it, too. Except since Dessriel doesn't have the """"incest""" label to normal fags, it's more socially acceptable.

>>712819250
we barely know anything about asriel other than being a superstar

>>712819190
Knight would solo

>>712819169
>she's a great mom
>e621

>>712818857
>sans ate kris' portion while toriel was oblivious leaving nothing but smeared ketchup on the plate

>>712819269
is this before or after Sans touches Kris inappropriately?

>>712819269
No.

>>712819342
... the losing competition.

Why doesn't Kris just murder Sans?

>>712819163
He didn't think sans was worth anything.

>>712819441
Soon

While some people overplay it, getting wasted on Jager and rawdogging a guy you met at most 2 days ago is a shitheel move.
I mean fuck, actively disrespecting Asgore in front of Kris (and presumably Asriel) was already beyond the pale in a reasonable world. They likely look up to and miss their father and while you can be separated, parents who shit all over the other parent are, indirectly, telling their children that they're 50% worthless.
That in and of itself should be enough to condemn her assuming Asgore isn't secretly leading either the local Klan chapter or NAMBLA club.
If it really is just 'He failed to find Dess' then she's officially a shit mother

>>712819483
Please

>>712807706 (OP)
She is a narcissistic overprotective mother. She isn't overprotective to protect Kris, but to make herself not worry. She only does what makes herself feel good, with no care about how it will effect Kris.
But as soon as Sans enters the picture, she doesn't care anymore, because it has always been about how she feels, not Kris.

Has anyone got that screenshot of Toriel and Rudy?

>Your wife
>You mean Carol
>YOUR WIFE

>>712819020
i love her reaction

>>712819368
>comes into your house
>fucks your mom
>eats all your food
>stops you from getting any sleep
How long until Sans starts beating Kris?

>>712819595
wait no
hold the fuck
Toriel isn't seriously implying that carol is fucking Asgore and Rudy is perfectly okay with this, right

>>712819342
Remember Chara has 99 defense too with the locket

>>712819595
What was the deal with that anyway?

>>712819528
>I mean fuck, actively disrespecting Asgore in front of Kris (and presumably Asriel) was already beyond the pale in a reasonable world.
You're right about the Dess thing, but Asgore did this to himself. He keeps being so god damn pathetic in front of his kids and in public to the point that the townsfolk gossip about it.

>>712819698
Not saying someone's name when asked to is a sign of disrespect.

>>712819698
Toriel is pissed.

>>712819264
Meh, they deserved the wake-up call then.
Besides, look at everyone screaming about "Toriel has the right to hang with her boyfriend!". Clearly it won't be enough for the truly lost.
(Surprising lack of empathy for the teens, but oh well.)

>>712819698
Knows carol is a dirty human fucker

>>712819595
i'm honestly surprised how many times i've seen people see that as meaning rudy and carol are having problems, and not that rudy wants toriel to see carol as her own person and not just 'your wife'

>>712819698
carol is funding asgore's conspiracy shit which toriel does not like

>>712819784
I guess you're right.
I just hope it doesn't happen to asriel too much.
He's already been through enough.

>>712819685
You know the rules, no Shadow Mantle you get one shot, it's ogre.

>>712819683
toriel's just being a cunt i think
she has some kind of grudge against not just asgore but carol too, possibly for being friendly to asgore still
toriel made a specific point of "YOUR WIFE" even after being called on it

>>712819698
She was pissed at Rudy and since Carol is probably into some shady shit and Toriel want to remind Rudy "that woman" is his wife.

>>712819875
if fucking ralsei can eat a few hits without getting SWOONed even without the shadow mantle, i'm pretty sure chara can

>>712818506
group hug

>>712819354
And?

Even when it turns out in Chaoter 5 that Toriel and Sans weren’t fucking at all people will still act like cunts about it. BUT SHE WAS PLAYING BOARDGAMES WITH HIM.

>>712819738
>You're right about the Dess thing, but Asgore did this to himself. He keeps being so god damn pathetic in front of his kids and in public to the point that the townsfolk gossip about it.
Asgore doing it to himself is one thing, her doing it to him is another.

Imagine the reverse situation, Asgore is looking after Kris and he just lets rip about how Toriel is a filthy bicycle seat cover who used to get black out drunk and drink cum by the shot as a party trick at parties.
Full on, straight out 'Your mother is a drunken whore and not worthy of respect'
Would that ever be appropriate? Even if they'd just found Toriel lying in a gutter with a couple of guys taking turns on her it'd still be fucked up to lay that on the kids.

>>712819441
You didn't get to murder him?

Toby

>>712820142
yeah what's up

>>712820107
>Imagine the reverse situation, Asgore is looking after Kris and he just lets rip about how Toriel is a filthy bicycle seat cover who used to get black out drunk and drink cum by the shot as a party trick at parties.
>Full on, straight out 'Your mother is a drunken whore and not worthy of respect'
toriel has never done this to asgore though.

>>712819929
Well I guess it makes sense. If the whole reason for the divorce was because Asgore was obsessing over finding Dess, then it makes sense for it to be a sore topic-- especially considering it's Carol that isn't cutting him off.

>>712819997
*WOOSH* *WOOSH* *WOOSH*
>heart shatters
Ez

>>712819997
Ralsei isn't real

>>712820126
Kris is too much of a pussy to do anything without our prompt.

>>712819441
He would have a bad time if he did.

>>712819824
Given how career orientated and successful Carol is, it's particularly disrespectful when you think about it.
For all that she radiates big bitch energy, Carol has clearly earned her way to the top in town and done so off her own bat.
Even 'The Mayor' would show more respect.

>>712819929
>sick as fuck and dying of canceraids
>go to church for your daughter's sake even though you know it's not good for your health
>toriel disrespects your wife and you, on purpose, twice, in front of your daughter still
>splashes a drink on you over a dumb joke in a not really playful manner, but brush it off anyways
>sitting and standing around for a few hours without constant rest and care is enough to fuck you up hard while your condition is getting worse
That's kind of fucked up

>>712820097
Toriel cant be creating puzzles with another man, it's just not right.

>>712820107
>Imagine the reverse situation
Why is this such a popular defense for chuds

>>712820097
It either way clearly screwed over the abduction plan.

>>712820290
But Kris can win look >>712820126

>>712820384
See! Sans is ruining both the Dreemurs and the Holidays

>>712818537
wish I had my tablet with me and not a mouse

>>712820340
Because unlike you subhumans, Chuds apply the golden rule.
I know the only standards you've got come in set pairs, but for the rest of us we tend to rely on 'Treat others the way you've like to be treated' and the inherent empathy that comes with it.

>>712818474
what is the source of this?

>>712820705
Lmao.
So defensive.

>>712820384
Do you think Sans Deltarune is actually Sans Undertale, and he knows exactly what he's doing?
>Pisses off Kris so bad he leaves you alone in the house with Sans (Toriel is passed out so she doesn't count)

I hate Susie because she's just female Bowser

>>712820923
i've wanted to rail bowser-but-girl even before bowsette became a thing

>>712820770
It's just chud behavior to think about the feelings of someone else, don't worry about it.

Chapter 5 egg room but the trauma tree gets replaced by the long couch

>>712820327
yeah usually people tend to act like they're walking on eggshells when hanging out with someone deathly ill, but toriel treats him like he's perfectly healthy and willing to get in an argument at church over marginalizing his wife (and mayor of the town)
either whatever happened with asgore was THAT bad, or she really is just kinda a bit of a bitch

>>712821048
Toriel is just a megabitch

>>712821031
To the point of it coming before yourself?
Yes, and it's unhealthy, reeks of desperation, and it's pathetic.
Two things that will make any girl dryer than a desert.

Does Carol... with those pillows...?

>>712819020
Alternate ending.

>>712821048
>Toriel doesn't fucking know Rudy is sick because she's been asking Kris to go in her stead.
That's really fucking something, now that I'm thinking about it.

So Asgore is totally going to make his own dark world then have creepy recreations of his family/friends, right

>>712821048
it seems like toriel's the aggressor in the divorce pretty much no matter what happened, but asgore resigning from his job didn't help

Sans couldn't hurt Kris because he's PACIFISTS

>>712821138
Shut up ho, go do the dishes.

>>712819698
Toriel seems to dislike Carol.

>>712821256
Toriel only likes children

Toriel stocks are plummeting...

>>712821329
And sans

>>712821252
Okay bro.
Just wanted to help your lonely ass out.

Krusie stocks SOARING. BUY BUY BUY.

>>712817557
Asgore has literally done nothing wrong ever, only a tranny would disagree

Post THAT pic of Kris and Noelle.

>>712821176
I want black Ralsei back

>>712821329
I do love kiddo and evil kiddo, so I don't blame her.

>>712821429
Caring about me? Bro that's chud behavior.
Stand by your own backwards ass ideals for once you pansy.

>>712807797
Me on the left

>>712821584
I Don't care about the ants I don't step on.

>>712821453
only chud men would disagree with this

>>712821563
go away it's not here

IT'S
TV TIME!

>>712821662
agree*

This will be Deltarune chapter 0

>burns the house down with no survivors
no boner is more based than him

>>712821640
Oh you don't? Well then it seems you're just trying to validate your own ideals and instead found out they're stupid as fuck. You're a real go-getter, fag-boy. A real pussy slayer. Goddamn.

I don't know why but this angle got a pop out of me

Asgods, how are we feeling about total skeleton death?

>>712821802
Why are you so mad anon.

>>712821174
damn that image is just kinda sad thinking about it
>dess is gone
>rudy is dying
>noelle's drifting away
>all she has left are her pillows and a hope she might get her eldest back again
glad we've got some carol art that isn't just 'haha i'm homophobic' and 'haha you're into milfs'

>>712821665
alright [LATER]

>>712821837
>u mad
ayy that's a blast from the past

>>712820097
Playing loud music all night ain't that fun either when you are trying to sleep, tbqh with you.

can you zoometes stop bickering? your vocabulary and nigger slang are really tiring.

>>712821814
what if you wanted to be free but the deltarune looked down and said "diagonal"

>>712821936
Sorry asriel I'll do better next time.

>>712820340
Not an argument.

How many chapters do you think will be here? What if we get a Chapter -1?

>>712820097
It don't matter. It's symbolic sex just like the thorn ring.

I wish the tranny and the chud would just get a room and fuck already.

doesnt toriel say she's going to the diner before church practice, and invites you and suzie? i spent so long trying to get the scene but now i assume it doesnt even exist?

Was Tobias Vulpes right in shitting so ferociously and mercilessly on Sans fans?

>>712821174
not just carol after hot summer of '25

>>712822107
its right after church

>>712820692
gonna have a bad tom

Is Susie a bad friend?

>>712822107
>>712822169
Is it bad that I just ignored her and went straight to Noelle's house?

>4 years waiting
>5 seconds screentime
KWAB, jobber of the year

>>712822107
she says it after church and then immediately fucks off after asgore ruins her mood
doesn't pay for you and susie to go by yourselves either, had to nab that shit off your brother instead

>>712820340
Human beings tend to point out double standards, it's only lefitsts who are subhuman monstrosities and pretend otherwise

>>712818719
there's some connections being drawn between darkness and water, like how they are called dark fountains, or jevil saying "hell's roar bubbles from the depths" or that the image used on the fountains is called IMAGE_DEPTHS and the weird song from the sea that onion went to investigate and never came back from
also carol cancelled school because of the rain once as well so it doesn't seem to be an entirely toriel focused fear

>>712822128
Yes, retroactively ruining everyone's childhood is based

>>712822261
wtf lol

does toby hate toriel

>>712822128
>didn't have to add a megalovania reference to the piano because it's impossible to play more than the first four bars of it with that setup
>did it anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flNH3iU-bXM

>>712822259
it's undover

>>712822349
No, he loves Toriel and hates Asgore which should really make you think

>>712822249
You literally cannot ignore her, it's a mandated cutscene.

>>712822259
Undyne the dying.

>>712822259
>Nodymes

>>712809347
This is unironically how you cure a furry fetish.

>>712822301
One day you'll learn that life is unfair and double standards are the only standards we have.

>>712822259
>jobs in both games
>romantic interest is a fat ugly stammering weeb in both games
Toby fucking hates her

>>712822259
Undamsel in distress

>>712822392
Yes I did, after the cutscene with Asgore you can just go to Noelle's house or go check Ralsei. I just went to Noelle.

>>712822453
Wtf i thought this was a progressive game, is Toby a fucking incel chud?

>>712807706 (OP)
She's an alright mom, but a shit wife

>>712807706 (OP)
Depends.
How thick is her vibrator?

>Kris and Susie being friends around town
Slice of life spinoff game where there's no roaring when

>>712822478
she says it before asgore ambushes her

>>712822431
She doesn't even know alphys in deltarube.

>>712822574
they have each others number

>>712822574
*can specifically make sure she doesn't know alphys in deltarube

>>712822552
Yeah but I just didn't go to Diner, I left Toriel there ahahahaha

>>712822552
>Asgore ambushing her was so tough on her sensibilities that she had to go get drunk and fuck the store janitor to get her mind off him.
Heh.

>>712822574
It's a small town
Everybody probably knows each other somehow

>>712822261
>doesn't pay for you and susie to go by yourselves either
I forgot about that
She's almost comically shitty in this chapter

I hate small towns, everyone knows each other.

>>712822431
she could've at least gotten some dick if he kept alphys a guy but he had to deny her that too

>>712819368
How will the toriel or sans fans defend that one?

>>712822765
Try again in English pajeet.

>>712822413
You're alright.

>>712822765
Toby can't fap to a heterosexual relationship.

If you could communicate with Kris and tell him that you're gonna help him kill Sans he would probably stop trying to rebel against you

>>712807706 (OP)
i dont think so, maybe a BIT neglectful, she not being worried about where Kris is, but then again she told Susie "they do that sometimes"

implying she's used to Kris disappearing from to time

>>712822765
>>712822942
Alphys is only a girl because toby realized she was unlikable and that was the best thing he could come up with to fix it.

>>712822998
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Kris is a huge pushover ad I bet he is fine with Sans.

Can I use Asriel's money on Noelle instead?

>>712823103
you should have $12 if you know what you're doing. you'll probably need it for the festival

>>712823172
>not feeding kris and susie at the diner
they'll be nothing but skin and bones at this rate...

>>712822942
Alphys was a late revision.

>>712819698
Anyone nice to Asgore is an enemy to Toriel.

>>712823043
I love the games and Toby, but it really looks like that to me too.

>>712823273
what about alphys

>>712823319
That's not a schizo theory or anything, he actually admitted it somewhere. Or at least I remember something like that.

>>712819698
Like others say, Toriel seems to not like her, since if she was at the very least neutral towards her, she'd say her name.

I figure whatever Asgore was doing that led to their divorce, Carol supported (or at least was in favor) of it. In the Tenna cutscene, Carol is the second to leave (First being Dess, obviously). I was going to head canon that Asgore got too caught up in investigating the missing Dess (which Carol obviously would support) and eventually that led to cracks in the marriage forming. However that would make Toriel into a massive irredeemable bitch who got pissed that her husband was putting a lot of time into investigating the disappearance of a teenage girl, who also happened to be his best friends daughter, so I don't think Toby would do that, unless he wanted everybody to hate Toriel.

>>712822431
Toby IS a fucking weeb, making her a weeb as well is basically crowning the fucker

>>712823386
In the art book or something like that, yeah, said the character didn't work for him at first, and then changed the gender.

>>712823359
Do not shatter my delusions with facts.

>>712807706 (OP)
>barren bedroom
>blood on the floor
>keeps her bedroom locked
Horrible mother, you can tell the moment you boot up chapter 1

>>712823265
i meant having $12 before the diner. you can probably get gifts for whoever you want with &$7 at the festival

>"So you're telling me that you managed to gain his mother's trust and that she forgot about her child and his bum friend disappearing for a whole day? excellent, truly excellent"
>"Now place a bottle of ketchup inside the fridge to signal your growing control over the household, get her drunk, seduce her and fuck her, but don't rush! you must wait precisely until he comes back home so he can catch his only stable parent dancing like a cheap whore with a guy she's known for only 2 days, then when he goes to sleep grinding his teeth out of impotent rage after his friend runs away out of embarassment make sure to make to cause as much noise as you can, though i expect that drunk cow is gonna be anything but quiet either way"

>>712818372
>>712818167
>Chara and Asriel get very drunk on campus at a party
>Chara proposed a suicide pact while intoxicated
>Asriel, who's heavily influenced by alcohol like his mother goes forward with it
>Two dead young adults

TOBIAS YOU FUCKING GENIUS

>>712823409
It has to have something to do with the Dark World. Carol and Asgore are both 100% in the know - Kris and Dess almost certainly learned about how to make Fountains from them either by being taught or by spying on them - and Asgore keeps insisting to himself that if Toriel knew about the Dark World she'd instantly understand. I figure this is why Kris keeps trying to kidnap Toriel - they agree with their dad and think he's taking too long to make a move.
So it has to be something that would look really bad if you don't know about the Dark World, but would instantly make sense if you do. It was something about Asgore wanting to "protect everyone."
...Toriel hated Asgore because he killed kids. Did Asgore kill Dess?

>>712823172
Where do you get the $2 from? I only got $10 from taking from Asriel's drawer twice.

>>712823043
i've always found it kinda hilarious how toby came up with the most obnoxious, stereotypical fat stinky nerd he could make then went "oh shit no one's gonna actually like this guy" and just swapped his dick out as a patchwork answer
then he ended up practically remaking alphys as a different character for deltarune anyway since even THAT didn't save the concept of a gross otaku who gets with the hot fish because uuuh they both like anime i guess and also has the zombies of several monsters hidden in their basement that they refuse to put out their misery

>>712823612
>Poorfag son in a single-parent household
>Has rich mcMoneybags the Reindeer for a friend
>Limited to $7 at the festival

Noelle can proceed to pay.

>>712823915
>i've always found it kinda hilarious how toby came up with the most obnoxious, stereotypical fat stinky nerd he could make then went "oh shit no one's gonna actually like this guy" and just swapped his dick out as a patchwork answer
That faggot is a fucking genius because it has worked flawlessly, Tumbrlinas and similiar subhuman slugs will do everything in their power to defend Alphys

>>712823853
refunding the get well soon card that undyne gives you

>>712822248
Fuck no. I want a Susie of my own.

>>712823915
Despite the easy dodge of changing the gender of the character, I still enjoy Alphy's and Undyne relationship, they are both retarded, and the dino is a bara fujoshi, which has it's charm.

>>712821451
What do you think Kris drew at the end, that we didn't get to see?

>>712824052
Based

>>712823782
I can see toby doing this just to make Asriel suffer more yeah.

>>712824070
Fat retard vs meathead jocks is one of the most retarded ships i can imagine, that shit belong sin the hackiest of wattpad fanfics cause it literally never works in reality

>>712823915
>and also has the zombies of several monsters hidden in their basement that they refuse to put out their misery
OR let out of the basement, which is the only moral thing to do because they're only scary because they're all stir-crazy from being trapped in a dark hospital for years without being able to see anyone.

>>712824114
A stickman with a huge dick and an arrow pointing to it saying "me"

Asgore is much better than Toriel but it's hard to admit that because most Asgore fans are barafaggots.

DESS RAPED KRIS

>>712821451
>>712824114
He did the same thing with his brother for years, so you better be a supporter of gay goat incest.

>>712824282
u mean asriel

>>712823801
I'm not too sure about Asgore working with Carol honestly. Unless she keeps him in the dark that Kris is ALSO working with her, I can't imagine Asgore being okay with Kris potentially risking himself for whatever Carol's plan involves. I do figure it has something to do with Dess's disappearance though.

>>712824184
Freeing the amalgamates would be a fucking disaster that could destroy the entire underground civilization from the implications alone, nevermind the fact that various monsters would see that their loved ones who they thought had died long ago were tortured into becoming horrible monstrosities

>>712821897
Already said it, “but le homophobic helicopter Mom” is a ruse, her arc is going to invert Toriel’s thus far where we get this negative preconception and get shown how deeply her caring runs.

>>712824340
Anon she literally has an identical corkboard to the one Asgore keeps in his room, they're both doing SOMETHING together.

>>712824156
Undyne is literally a weeb.

>>712824036
Ah fuck, I figured it was: hand over the card to Alphys and say some shit, or eat the hearts with Susie. I hadn't even considered returning it.

>>712824340
If Asgore is in cahoots with Carol (which he probably is) he barely has any idea what's going on and is mostly being used, mostly just kept in line by the vague promise of somehow managing to win back Toriel's respect

>>712824432
Real gay

>>712824398
You get to see her alone in her office or whatever and you expect her bring out the black knife and polish or some other evil villain shit only for her to pull a framed picture of Dess from her desk and crying silently to herself while caressing it
Fucking calling it

>>712818281
>>712818483
>Kris, did I ever told you about my GENOCIDES?

>>712824452
He was the chief of police, he had one of the codes to the shelter dark world. He knows exactly what's going on...or at least what WENT on. I don't know if he knows anything that's happening now, being so focused on Toriel.
>>712824340
I'm betting that Carol and Kris are actually enemies. Carol said that (You) are always welcome, not Kris. Since we and Kris are enemies, wouldn't that make Carol our ally...?

>>712824427
Kinda happy about how pissed the gay goat gooners are at this ship.

>>712824356
They get freed at the end of the game and it's all hunky dory though

>>712824452
The weird thing Toriel and some of the townies mention about him is probably his believe in the Dark World and going there to search for Dess. Most don't believe him but Carol does because she's in the know and is using him for her own plot

>>712824356
but they're freed in the end anyway and are shown back with their families.

>>712824626
>Noelle learns the world is a videogame
>Gets hype and immediately tries to clip through walls

>>712824631
I'm an uber gay goat gooner and I love this ship, specially knowing Dess pegged Asriel like crazy

Kris raped Dess

>>712824452
Imagine the full on incoherent rage if Asgore and Carol were attempting to ressurect/save Dess and that's why Toriel despises them both.
The incoherent fury of everyone who has ever lost a family member would be magnificent.

>>712824701
That's because the pacifist ending runs on happy go lucky cartoon rules and people were more invested in the whole "kid saving us from the hypergod of death and breaking the barrier" thing
Imagine if the amalgamates were freed in any neutral ending

Carol raped Kris

>>712824786
Can't be, Toriel doesn't know about Dark Worlds. Asgore keeps saying if she knew she'd understand.

>>712816728
>>712816773
There is a reoccurring theme of Toby writing plot holes or things that aren't properly explained and people attributing that to Toriel being a bad person despite that never being acknowledged by another character in the story.

Toriel is beloved to the point that a character like Susie would willingly dress up smart and got to church for her sake. Maybe Toby will acknowledge there is actually some self-awareness here with Susie saying "actually Kris, maybe your mom isn't as great a person as I thought" at the start of the next chapter. But otherwise we're probably going to continue to have this routine of /v/ insisting Toriel is actually this really flawed person with the flaws they notice being totally intentional writing despite no character in the story acknowledging it.

Why does everyone always draw Deltarune Asriel with glasses?

>>712824114
Heart with an arrow through it. Susie took it one way, but he meant something else.

>>712824560
do you think the fanbase will swerve in their opinion of her or will they continue pushing the "I HATE GAY PEOPLE" meme since she's still against suselle (because she doesn't want the last bit of family she has left to leave her too)?

>>712824893
Self inserting or stereotypes.

>>712824780
>>712824849
The only thing Kris raped is the pillow having to listen to Sans bone blast all over his mother's goat cunt.

>>712824849
And that's a wonderful thing

>>712824893
he's supposed to look like ralsei, but more vanilla

>>712824631
Bi for Asriel
Would 3some with Dess

Lemme ask this. Why didn't Tenna and everyone else in Chapter 3 want Toriel to wake up?
Do you think she would have been batshit crazy powerful in the Dark World?

I mean my guess was "saving for the Knight" but still it seems weird that they didn't want her aware and awake.

>>712824849
From how possessively she touched him and sad that he is "welcome anytime" i can genuinely believe it

>>712824849
I wish I were Kris…

>>712824761
>>712825013
That's not true because the actual gay goat gooners all abandoned asriel for ralsei.

>>712824404
Oh, I never found that. I guess I can see something like what >>712824452 said. I'm still not sure how that would lead to Toriel not liking Carol though.

>>712824629
Just because he has the codes doesn't mean he knows exactly what was going on. Undyne apparently had the code, and she clearly didn't know what was happening; or she wouldn't have gotten her ass captured. I can see him knowing some of it, enough to know some of the details of Dess's disappearance. Also for Kris being Carol's enemy, she has his number and calls him, which she absolutely wouldn't if Kris was an enemy. One of the few things I am certain of is that she's allied with Kris.

>>712818812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPHMcpuYeA

>>712823782
Chara is the worst character, just pure evil with nothing else going for her

>>712825047
Adults so far seem to be ridicolously strong in the dark world compared to both darkners and kids, Gerson was just a writer in life but in the dark world he's basically Goku and that's probably why the knight is so tough too

>>712824427
I hope we get something like this in game
>Asriel gets back to town during a shitshow
>Wonders what the fuck is going on
>Ends up in dark world with his boss look and thinks its cool looking
>Knight shows up during a big moment and Asriel intervenes
>Pause as Knight sees Asriel
>Spergs out and gets the fuck out of there
>Hey so like...it's not just me who thinks that knight looked kinda cool right?

>>712825148
SHE'S
LONG

>>712818792
He normally uses the window anyway

>>712824427
>Dess is obviously lesbian-coded
>Asriel was always a gay icon of /v/
>they are a straight couple
Guys, are we sure that Toby is actually a yurifag?

>>712825080
Asriel has been my husband since the day I saw his face three or so days after Undertale released and I'm not going to cheat on him with some other goat hussy.

>>712825268
>>Dess is obviously lesbian-coded
According to which voice in your head?

>>712825080
Only the weak fags, I'll never abandon my perfect goat boy. I love Ralsei, but Asriel always comes first.

>>712825306
I admire the dedication even if I don't want to fuck him.

>>712825127
the escalation from this to the titan's theme was a great bit of musical storytelling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2IT2YzscSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRMn2HlCRFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP9mB1sVJz4

>>712824758
>gets hype and immediately grabs a knife, presses against the wall and starts spazzing out

>>712825183
I think with Gerson it was more of a mix of how he was perceived along with his soul. Gerson was looked upon as an awesome CHAD so he got a power boost in the dark world to reflect that

>>712825356
Would you give him a tight embrace? He is really soft and fluffy.

>>712824758
Noelle becoming a schizo boss like that would be dangerous indeed

>>712824009
Tumblrinas do not, in fact, like Alphys that much beyond being a tubby girl
Past that it's mostly the "she just like me fr" Tomoko aspect of being a disgusting NEET

>>712825398
IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE

>>712825353
>>712825356

>>712825087
>Oh, I never found that
https://youtu.be/qZ2f0fJHbho?t=151
Should probably watch the full scene, then, just so you've got all the context.

>Just because he has the codes doesn't mean he knows exactly what was going on.
He also has a Black Shard - or Carol owns a sword made of it since he's standing in front of a katana - and constantly talks to inanimate objects.
>Undyne apparently had the code, and she clearly didn't know what was happening; or she wouldn't have gotten her ass captured.
She also didn't freak out at the sight of the Roaring Knight. She knows something, and wasn't expecting to get tackled.
>Also for Kris being Carol's enemy, she has his number and calls him, which she absolutely wouldn't if Kris was an enemy.
She only calls him for the Weird Route ending. It depends entirely on how much she knows - if she knows EVERYTHING that's happened, up to and including the SOUL's existence (highly probable considering red text you), it could be a taunt directed at Kris rather than a genuine message.

>>712825398
Need an opposite version of those where everything else is lens flared and only the YOU is legible

>>712825148
N-No! Too Tall!

Is Carol actually lovely once you get to know her?

>>712825395
You can put Asriel in a dress and he'll be prettier than most girls, it doesn't matter if she is lesbian.

>>712825494
Leftists trying to push this random ass ship because they're afraid of the water queen getting real porn is funny as hell

>>712825268
>>Dess is obviously lesbian-coded
by "today's" standards, she would just be a tomboy in early 2000s which is what toby based most of his stuff from though his team might be starting to change that

>>712825406
>>712825183
Ralsei said: "The Dark Fountains change everything into a fantasy." Gerson was an acclaimed FANTASY writer.

>>712825527
>bare hooves

>>712825461
I would never let go, anon.
it is the deepest dream within my soul.

>>712824758
>Noelle finds out she's in a video game
>immediately goes to acquire (You)
>"After all... nothing in this world is real, right?"
>"So what does it matter if I... proceed?"

Kris and Susie were meant to be together

>>712823915
What kind of beef do you think Kris has with Deltarune Alphys, anyway?
Because he takes that 'Drink it in front of her's command and fucking runs with it.

>>712824631
I'm gay for Asriel and I still love this ship and Dess though

>>712825148
Noell becomes a baller

>>712825537
This is a toby fox game so she won't be pure evil, besides considering how she has a fucking sword in her kitchen you're already getting the sense that she has a chuuni side

>>712825319
>extreme tomboy who plays hockey and has combat jacket in her wardrobe
Yeah, sounds very much like straight girl to me. Except she is

>>712825628
its a teen fucking with their wimp of a teacher

>>712825627
Imagine burping into her mouth while you do this.

>>712825628
We force him to do that

Why does Carol hate us?

>>712825607
You are a real one.

>>712825703
>girls can't do boyish shit without either wanting to become abusive gays or destroying their bodies with hormone injections
Amazing how, in their eternal quest to be as progressive as possible, leftards became the most old fashioned people in the planet

>>712825703
Female hockey players are often straight
The softball players are the dykes

>>712825628
We're playing as an isekai'd Frisk's SOUL and they're still mad at Alphys for all the bullshit she put them through.

>>712817491
He isn't you fucking tard

>>712823915
drink

>>712825721
I made him drink it in front of her, not throw it on the fucking ground like a spaz.

>>712825627
I wonder how Susie would actually react to that. Would probably slam him into the floor, then ask for another go.

>>712825385
Yeah I really enjoyed the variations on this theme.
On another note, is it just me or does >>712818812 sound significantly quieter than the rest of the song? It feels like it was mean to have more gain, it was kinds weird in the game.

>>712825537
i mean, would a bad person take the snowflakes her kid made for her and fucking bronze them?

>>712825628
She's his teacher, duh

>>712825768
It is simply a life goal to be someone he'd want to be friends with.
I think anyone would miss a friend after a decade.

>>712825827
He just wanted to do some banter lmao

>>712825578
>Ship
Mizzles don't have any personality, so it's not a ship. I just want to see them fuck and get fucked by me

>>712816179
The cops didn't show up, sure, but also nothing hapenned, so she felt safe. I do agree she should have had better track of the kids the next day, but they might have come back home at like 9pm, which is somewhat early for summer breaks in small towns.

>>712825765
If anything quite the opposite.

>>712825835
She gets a mini heart attack, freezes up without knowing how to react and then bites his face by pure instinct

>>712825787
Phew, dodged a bullet here, good thing she doesn't have a bat.

>>712825903
>summer breaks
We go to school in chapters 1 and 2

>>712825903
>but also nothing hapenned, so she felt safe.
Several items went missing in her house overnight and her TV was vandalized. The missing items are because Kris and Susie took them, but still.

>>712825525
best I can do

>>712816614
She was a drunk in Undertale too.
>SAUCE OR SHUT UP
Toby Foxington posted the cuts and excerpts from the Undertale alarm app that got cancelled. Hits include(Christmas edition)
>Toriel getting wasted on egg nog and singing super loud and rowdy with Alphys, who didn't want to take part but was drunk-bullied by Toriel
>Toriel getting SO wasted that she ended up passing out, and Papyrus pushed her into another space and covered her with a damn tablecloth to make her festive (lmao).
>Asgore the cuck walking around outside in the cold, unfeeling snow while this is happening
>Flowey seeing how retarded Toriel is acting and laughing, then feeling bad about it.
AND MORE? BEST PART? THAT SHIT IS CANON TO UNDERTALE.
>In short, Tori has always been a lush.

>>712825385
SPAWN is such a kick ass song.

>>712825765
She hates Kris, she likes (You). She's part of Team Schizo, not Team Knight.

>>712826034
Hehehe
Thanks Anon!

>>712826034
perfect

>>712825979
I assumed they were in summer vacation now. What with them having a completely free day for a destival after the day of Sunday mass.

"Dess is the knight"fags are in for a rude awakening when the shelter doors are opened and she's revealed to be Deltarune's only amalgam

>>712825627
Holy cute

>>712825926
Goddamn it Toby, you are going to make a mother and daughter deer duo tag on me.

>>712826085
I thought she was the Knight.

>>712825398
>Mystery Man still barely visible
kek

>>712825385
God if only the titan wasn't such a fucking wimp in the actual fight

>>712826197
Genuinely cannot be.

She's a terrible mother, wife, and queen.
And she was ALWAYS like this, her main motivation in Undertale wasn't actually to save children from Asgore but to spite him, and that directly led to many deaths.

>>712826008
Taking the TV is optional tho, you can fuck up your promise to Tenna.

>>712826153
nah we're definitely opening the door to THIS
i refuse any other possibility until it happens

>>712826254
This works because she is, completely fucking unironically, an actual ninja
In the ARG Noelle even mentions something moving extremely quickly over her house's roof during a storm and she collects ninja stars and katanas

>>712826287
I'm talking about how Tenna actually gets seriously fucked up by the Knight, to the point where Toriel thinks about throwing it out. If you did Chapter 3 through violence Tenna's just outright smashed.

>>712826197
>I thought she was the Knight.
Dess is. Carol/Kris/Asgore likely all know she’s the knight and are conspiring to free her

Still find it funny how people were expecting the chapter 3 boss to be satan incarnate who mindbroke Spamton only to turn out to be the single character who suffered the most in the game and who doesn't even want to hurt you until he just loses it

>>712825851
It made Noelle cry

>>712826460
Free her from what? if she's the knight she can run around in the light world just fine, she even mocks Susie when she says otherwise

>>712826330
God fanon Dess is so hot I can't take it
I need her to steal my first kiss while I'm below 13 years of age

>>712826501
>expecting the worst person in the world
>get Spamton's sitcom archnemesis
It was good.

>>712826587
What is wrong with you?

>>712826576
Free her from whatever the fuck Zombie Kris has over her to get her to do what they want.

>Bad mom undertale thread
>Not a single ceroba

what the fuck

>>712826550
i mean that's just a kid not understanding what exactly it means when your mother treasures what you make so much she goes and makes them shurikens

>>712823273
That’s bullshit though. She says she’s glad Carol is financing him and she lit a candle for him and prays for him.

>>712826576
Likely a masked man situation where she’s not in control of her body fully

>>712826460
The only horns that even remotely match the knight's are Carol's, she is specifically the only reindeer in the whole game with sharp tips

>>712826576
>Free her from what?

The darkness

>>712826330
>>712826587
ba/ss/ed

>>712825537
My God, she's a member of the Authority

All I’m saying is I’m gonna love Toriel no matter what cunts on /v/ think or says

>>712823273
Asgore lost custody because he fed Kris and let him sleepover one night Toriel was busy drinking, can't have that shit.

>>712826368
you know i would've interpreted that as dess/the knight scuttling around up there, but the idea of carol fucking weebrunning up there is fucking amazing

Will Toby ever give us board 3?

>>712826754
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U5tnnCvQI
Datamining the third Mantle game shows that the Knight is represented by a black deer, while Noelle is a brown deer. If Carol was the knight it'd be a golden or white deer, not black.

>>712826810
Based NTR enjoyer

>>712826576
ME

>>712825537
On the one hand, Asgore said it and he's a big softie so maybe she's not all bad
On the other hand Asgore said it and he's a big softie so maybe he's just being a pushover
On the goner hand, he might be in cahoots with her and the Knight

>>712818338
Chara, or at least the chara we pilot is, by definition, above all characters, because they're just the character name we pilot on any RPG with name input. If someone CAN be beat, chara is to be assumed to beat it.
And the Knight has a health bar.

>>712826820
the same night he showed kris his schizo corkboard to win him over

>>712826876
He never even gave us undertale hard mode.

>>712826368
>Darkner hunter
>Ninja
I'm gonna need fanart of Taimanin Carol, stat.

>>712826254
Reminder that this literally is true, because the bunker is under the city and in the Holliday basement you hear the bunker sound. There are entrances to the bunker all around the city and Carol LITERALLY has an underground tunnel system she can use to travel the city.

>>712825506
Alright, yeah. After watching that he does know a lot, especially if he can seemingly recognize what a black shard is on sight. I'm still not too sure about Undyne knowing much about what was going on. I kind of figured she just saw some black guy attacking some kids and jumped into action without really stopping to ask herself some questions as to what was going on. As for Carol, I did see the scene with Kris standing in the kitchen, and I think that the voice on the phone talking to Kris WAS Carol. Her sudden appearance is too suspicious otherwise, though I can't really explain her talking to (you). Maybe she doesn't know that the soul has begun to make its own choices separate from Kris?

I guess my new theory for Asgore is maybe he left Dess behind or sealed her in a dark world, thinking that whatever was in the dark world was too dangerous to get out, essentially sacrificing her. Though, that wouldn't explain why Rudy and seemingly Carol are okay with him, and Toriel isn't. Even if they understood him doing the best he could in that situation, I don't think they'd still be on speaking terms, nor why Toriel would hate Carol for (again seemingly) forgiving the guy who abandoned Carol and Rudy's daughter, and also not hate Rudy.

>>712826635
IT'S NOT MY FAULT
IT'S TOBY'S PLAN
HE MADE DECEMBER SO MUCH STRONGER THAN A MAN

>>712826876
he could have made it optional instead of cutting it out

>>712826879
Kris is also represented by blue in the dark world when he's yellow in the light world

>>712826754
The game literally plays a guitar sound when kris touches the knights hand in ch4

>>712826987
>the town mayor skulks around in underground tunnels like a nosferatu travelling through Santa Monica

>>712826987
>Ch 6-7
>Fucked up shit happens and the bunkers dark world gets so fucked up it spreads to all the secret entrances across town

>>712826197
>I thought she was the Knight.
I reckon Toby's pulling a fast one on us with Kris's phonecall to her. Because Kris was previously in a phone conversation to someone seemingly on team knight you can be led to believe she was was the same person when he phones her later.

Instead while Kris did phone her in order to keep Susie from looking into the Guitar and getting the code, the reason she did what he wanted was just the simple fact she didn't want some delinquent playing with her dead/missing daughter's guitar.

>>712826970
>the hard part is that it ends
I do respect the humor.

>>712826140
What were Noelle and Bird studying for then?

>>712826754
>she is specifically the only reindeer in the whole game with sharp tits
ftfy

>>712826754
>>712827037
It's Noelle's dead sister

>>712826754
I think the knight is dess after being corrupted by the dark for so long
it might not even actually be her completely but just a fragment of her, it makes no sense for the knight to be a regular lightner with the way it contorts its body (all other lightners remain relatively the same just with new clothes)
but it is still a lightner since it can open fountains

>>712827037
It literally doesn't because it's not enabled unless you edit the files

>>712827252
Considering how when it roars it specifically conjures a deer skull and it's ribcage opens up to reveal that it's empty inside she could genuinely be a zombie/goner/whatever version of Dess

>>712825537
She's the red herring evilbait character to distract from someone else

>>712822050
Holy shit, shut the absolute fuck up

>>712827252
>>712827345
It's Dess with Kris' SOUL absorbed.

>>712827252
If that's the case I'm wondering what Carol and Kris plan is to fix dess. All we know is a sacrifice.

>>712820097
Yeah, just playing monopoly with the guy she just met......while absolutely shitfaced drunk

>>712827436
I'm not sure Kris ever had a human soul the way the prophecy specifies he's a "cage", and the bird-cage's presence in his room implies possession of some kind has happened before

>>712807706 (OP)
she's definitely a bad wife

Here's my wild theory to destroy all other theories:

> the knight has to have been able to reach the library in broad daylight
> dess would be recognized

And yet, I still think it's Dess. The knight we see is Dess.
But she's not Dess outside.
The knight in the light world is actually Undyne carrying an object full of her monster ashes.

>>712827457
Maybe Dess' soul is lost somewhere and the knight is what's left of her body, so she needs a new body for her daughter's soul to inhabit

>>712827524
Yes, have you ever play a Toby Fox game

>>712827539
Is she? What did she do where she was in the wrong against Asgore? I don't think we know why they broke up.

>>712826989
>As for Carol, I did see the scene with Kris standing in the kitchen, and I think that the voice on the phone talking to Kris WAS Carol.
Kris is a cunning little fuck. I figure they could have simply hung up and called Carol when you weren't looking. I will, however, also note that Carol shows up early in BOTH normal and Weird routes, and in the latter Kris is too busy kicking the shit out of you in blind anger to make any kind of phone call. From that, I have to say that her getting home at that point was something that'd happen no matter what Kris did.

>Maybe she doesn't know that the soul has begun to make its own choices separate from Kris?
You literally haven't been making your own choices, Kris won't let you. You can only do that in the Weird Route.

>Though, that wouldn't explain why Rudy and seemingly Carol are okay with him, and Toriel isn't.
Honestly? I'm starting to think that there actually isn't a big mystery with Dess - she just ran away from home all those years ago, and abandoned Noelle. It'd explain why Noelle is constantly trying to look her up on the internet all these years later. Undyne's reaction to seeing the Knight was basically "What the-You've got some explaining to do!" which is...kind of an odd reaction, for the kind of situation she just walked into.

>>712827524
A lighthearted twist like that started Ch2

>>712827562
can't be, the knight is a lightner since it can open fountains
the black shard keeps its form even when returning to the light world, so it is likely that the knight's entire body is just made of hyper compressed darkness
but I believe in the light world it is much weaker, closer to an amalgamate

>>712827608
>this is essentially what dess is currently
i can buy it

>>712827525
That's not referring to Kris but the Vessel.

>>712827337
The game expects you to datamine it for clues.

>>712827562
Or it was just Kris.

>>712827636
If it's anything like in Undertale, she'll avoid all responsibility for supporting him when he makes a mistake in judgement by divorcing him

>>712827762
>spoiler
Amalgamates are one of the strongest creatures in Undertale, their whole problem is that they cannot die

>>712827780
>Was a super boss in kh2 that felt near unwinnable as well unless you locked in
Honestly a kino comparison

>>712827806
It's absolutely referring to Kris, they backstabbed the rest of the party.

>>712827806
Kris IS the vessel as far as the prophecy cares, same as the prophecy specifies a female hero and a fourth, unrelated "girl," both of which could refer to either Susie or Noelle depending on who occupies the other part of the prophecy.

Bros I love Noelle so fucking much…

>>712827918
yes but they are still shambling monsters that can barely keep their physical forms in shape
that might be what dess' body has become but made of darkness instead of DT

>>712826197
>Oyakodeer route
Oh baby

>>712819169
based, Toriel /ss/ is peak

>>712827857
>If it's anything like in Undertale
We have no idea if it is like that at all desu

I think Carol is the knight and it's gonna be funny when it's revealed that Dess is still missing and all those fanarts of dess knight age poorly

>>712827934
Kris literally glares at you when you kill Susie's and Ralsei's avatars in a videogame and protects them of his own volition multiple times, he would not lay a finger on them and this theory is retarded in general because the sprite of the attack effect is credited to the knight

>>712827762
Unless they are different in DR, you would need humans to get determination from

>>712827337
It's technically enabled, it's just the volume is down all the way.

>>712828057
Why would carol use a bat instead of her katana

>>712827993
Doesn't exactly sound like something that would be able to sneak around in broad daylight very well

>>712828057
Explain the knight's sword getting chipped but Carol's sword still being intact afterwards then, smart guy.

>>712828084
monsters have DT in DR

Dess managed to transport to Undertale long long ago, that's why Rudy there has more daughters than Rudy here. The Knight and Carol want to bring her back the same way we were brought to this world. This requires a sacrifice of some kind; the test-run was Kris' soul.

>>712828136
Because the black knife is not a bat, it's made of glass in the lightworld

>>712828175
????????????

>>712828057
carol can open her rigcage, split her skull and transform into a bird/baseball?

>>712808528
Someone's annoyance at you for not knowing where your child is perfectly reasonable, but her pretending like she's in the right is bizarre if she's supposed to be a matronly protector

>>712828146
Might've been in the library closet since the previous day

>>712828183
Rudy is in fucking Undertale??

>>712828183
This gif lives rent free in my mind, it suits almost every post in these threads.

>>712828254
queen says so in chapter 2, any lightner has DT and can open a fountain
we literally see susie open a fountain in chapter 4
monster bodies in DR are much meatier than UT monsters, they need to use toilets

>>712828057
Even if it'll turn out wrong, making wild theories and fanart for said theories is part of the fun of Deltarune.

>>712828331
Rudy is deceased in Undertale but mentioned.

>>712828069
Kris wasn't glaring at you, they were looking to the side - where Ramb was. They've also got stark white skin when they look at Ramb, and have the same skin color when the 8 Bit Kris walks towards Susie to try and kill her.
The skin notably turns blue right before Kris quickly grabs Susie and pulls her out of the way.
Kris needs the SOUL in the Dark World because if they didn't have the SOUL, they'd have completely different colors.

>>712828272
In the dark world she can, same way Susie can shoot magic bullshit out of her hairbrush

>>712826368
>This works because she is, completely fucking unironically, an actual ninja
>In the ARG Noelle even mentions something moving extremely quickly over her house's roof during a storm and she collects ninja stars and katanas

Also the Knight would have been pretty fast to get Undyne from Kris' house to the bunker in the light world and for Carol to get back from work soon after Kris calls her.

>>712828136
>Explain why a hairbrush and a pencil turn into an axe and a sword.
>>712828147
I don't think the knight's weapon is a katana either, since it's made of glass. But we don't get to see the katanas again after we leave the Holiday's

>>712828057
Doesn't matter if Dessknight is wrong, it's still hot

>>712828331
>>712828391
Also mentioned on the alarm clock thing on the website. Asgore's one.

>>712828415
this shit still does not track.

>Kris gender thread in the catalog
Can someone make a new thread, that one's stinky

>>712828069
I missed killing them in the video game. I would have felt so much worse about the game if I knew I could do that.

>>712824432
You can be a weeb and a jock at the same time. Most of Mexico worships DBZ.

>>712827961
Okay? That could still mean Kris HAD his own soul in the past.

>>712828331
He's only mentioned in canceled alarm-clock app and other supplementary stuff, already dead of illness. Dess is apparently alive in Undertale's continuity. Susie gets similarly mentioned but in the game itself as "Suzy" by a clam NPC in Waterfall.

>>712828545
You can miss it? i thought it was mandatory

>>712828428
that's different from literally morphing your body

>>712827708
>I will, however, also note that Carol shows up early in BOTH normal and Weird routes
I saw that, and to be honest, I figured she was worried about Noelle being home alone then, based on what Noelle said during her conversation. Like other anons, I don't think Carol is just "evil", I think she does care about her family, even if we haven't really gotten to see that too well right now. As to why she suddenly decide to call instead of Berdly, who knows. Maybe she knows what it looks like when someone gets "killed" in a dark world, and was worried about Noelle.

>You literally haven't been making your own choices, Kris won't let you. You can only do that in the Weird Route.
Yeah sorry, I used the wrong words. I more meant that we are developing are own consciousness.

As for Dess, I think something more serious had to have gone on with her, just from all the trauma, hints, etc. It'd be one hell of a fake out if there was nothing going on with her beyond something relatively simple, and not necessarily in a good way.

>>712828713
>that's different from literally morphing your body

Ralsei can morph into a footstool

>>712828740
>Toriel about to domestically abuse Asgore and Kris

>>712828589
And most mexicans would bang a fat assed nerd, checkmate.

>>712828514
The name of the attack is credited to the Knight because Kris is the Knight, and what's holding them back is the SOUL. Their actions are contradictory because Kris literally is two characters in one body, and both are arch enemies. The SOUL isn't an avatar of (You), they've been in Kris for at least a few months since the only Kris Susie has met is SOUL Kris.

>>712828713
The knight in general is a completely different league of power, figures that an advanced lightner might be able to just do whatever in the dark world

>>712828654
Kris would probably be outright dead if his soul was stolen and he was a natural human. A Process Occurred at some point in his life no matter what to make him into a receptacle for unrelated souls, it seems much likelier to me from the phrasing of "human parts" and his status as a cage and all the recent developments surrounding a gray hand that he's a vessel (as in Gaster experiment) and always has been, right down to mysteriously being the only human in a monster city.

>>712828272
Maybe she's harassing the power of the titans? I think the Knight is stronger than our heroes but not necessarily because they're younger. I think Carol has been doing something to become strong in the Dark World

>>712828873
>Kris is the Knight
You retards are Mike tier by this point, do you need Toby Fox to publically make fun of you like he did for them in the next chapter?

>>712828374
Fair enough, I did forget about the queen dialog. I just hope humans still have some edge on monsters, it's just more interesting to have differences ig

>>712828776
ralsei is a darkner

>>712828776
I want Toriel to use me as a footstool haha

>>712828959
The idea of adults being generally more powerful in the dark world (hell see the beast Gerson became) just makes sense thematically, they're fantasy fun lands ala Narnia for little kids and here they're being invaded by grown adults who want to spam them so they can summon world ending demons

>>712828873
Kris is *a* knight as of being knighted, I don't think he's *the* Knight, that's pretty firmly Dess/Roaring Knight. I think what happens in the cutscene also trumps the actual filename, naming that "kris" would just be a spoiler and the actual slash effect is white-and-gray in line with his own slash effects with every other mundane sword, while the Knight's slash effects and Kris' with the Black Shard equipped are red-and-black.

>>712828069
>>712828415
How can you retards seriously not just accept that Kris wasn't looking at anyone? He was looking away because the sight of having to kill his friends makes him upset. Ramb disappearing has nothing to do with MiniKris because it never once exits to the right. Kris' colors change because they're reusing sprites for what's meant to be used for the giant ass screen lighting up the room. You people are so fucking stupid.

>>712828987
Who do you think murdered Ramb, after Kris played the game that revealed that Tenna was working under their command? Why do you think Kris is so angry after his deal with Tenna was revealed that they go from dealing half damage to Tenna do dealing triple damage?

>>712825047
They didn't want her awake for the Knight. Undyne was the real target.

>>712829328
>Who do you think murdered Ramb
ZeldaKris

>>712829091
Big meaty Toriel soles

>>712829328
>Who do you think murdered Ramb
Nobody. He turned to stone, and disappears if you backtrack after you start the third game, even if you haven't beaten it yet or seen Tenna in that game yet.

>>712829328
>Who do you think murdered Ramb
Nobody. There is no proof that he was killed
>B-b-but minik-
never moved to the right.

>>712829328
Ramb turns to stone

>>712829328
>Who do you think murdered Ramb
Where was it said Ramb was killed?

>>712826970
>Undertale Hard Mode unlocks when finishing Deltarune
I KNEEL AIEEEEEE

>>712829732
Most "Kris is super evil" retards either didin't play the game or have literal goldfish memory that gets overwritten by their headcanon

>>712821176
>Ch1 Ralsei
>Jojo part 5 dance
>Guardians of the Galaxy quote
This makes me miss the late 10s, bros.