what is the most indefensible, bullshit thing in any game you've played?

>>712880574 (OP)
Elden ring

Oblivion level scaling

>>712880574 (OP)
Any Fire Emblem story

Having to play through a 20-40 hour game to unlock Hard mode

>Yakuza

>Items have zero text describing what they do, even in the game menus
Reason why I only played Isaac for an hour

>>712880574 (OP)
Reminder that Tony was in late 30's at the start of the show.

microtransactions, battle pass, subscriptions

>>712880574 (OP)
One recent one is Valheim's ridiculous insistence that you can't teleport with precious materials or items
The entire purpose of this decision is to pad out the game and force you to walk or sail between vast distances, but there's no real events in between that actually make for interesting gameplay

It is pure spiteful tedium, but a shit ton of Valheim is just that, which is quite frustrating

Damage-on-ground effects in path of exile failing to render

>>712880821
i'm 47 hours into yakuza 5 and i only just got up to the hakura part lol

>>712880617
It doesn't deserve it's success. I'm so glad I only "rented" it from GameStop. It was mediocre. It proves From is just out of ideas.

>>712880574 (OP)
Probably Dark Souls 2's instant access to warping and how it set the standard for the future of Fromsoft games afterwards
Level design died with teleporting

>>712880821
FF XVI... I wish I could have played it in a harder difficulty... It was WAY too easy and simplistic. Game was supposed to have deeper combat that what it had. Wanted so bad to love that game.

>>712880931
considering hes fat and balding i dont think he looks that terrible

>>712881197
This. The amount of shilling ER had on /v/ was insane it's a 5/10 game at best.

single-use preorder DLC praxis kits in Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
fuck squeenix

hard to choose, im usually more tolerant than average for this sorta vidya stuff, nothing all that atrocious
but the most game-worsening thing i can think of is the way defense works in Dragons Dogma 1
>its just a flat damage reduction
>if you get bored with snorefest enemies and rush to bitterblack isle, 90% your attacks deal no damage and you need to spam a burst move over and over until shit dies. pawns other than sorcerer become useless
>if you get high level enough or use periapts so you can deal damage and have fun, its possible everything dies too fast because you quickly darted from dealing 0 damage to dealing way too much damage
>>712881236
it was nowhere as good as DS1's world, but it still had some neat interconnection. You could just remove being forced to level up from Majula and the game would still hold up adequately without fast travel
Its possible to make worlds like DS1 with good fast travel (ex: hollow knight)
you should blame DS3 instead for being basically a linear action game

>>712880574 (OP)
the least steps challenge maps in portal 1, complete fucking bullshit.

>>712880669
using bethesda is almost cheating.

>>712880574 (OP)
>old game that was left alone for the better part of a decade suddenly gets a forced update / remaster that makes the game worse and there's no way to truly revert to how it was because they changed so much of the backend that you have to either purchase an older, unpatched version of the game or pirate it, and even then, the online functionality has been totally neutered with countless mods and gamemodes being either stripped down, deleted and any new mods have to be approved by the company before they're allowed
>even on the private servers, it's a shell of a once great community that's been forcibly fractured and filled with bitter people like myself who can only talk about how good the old days were

>>712880574 (OP)
that undodgeable attack they gave Radahn in the Elden Ring DLC

>>712880574 (OP)
I hate this fucking plant so much

>>712880574 (OP)
You get locked out of the good ending in the Blair Witch game if you follow the tutorial. I'm not even kidding. The game prompts you to pick up an item and if you pick up even a single collectible, you have no way of getting the good ending and you wouldn't know it until you got the bad ending.

>>712880574 (OP)
Why you making me do this you fat fucking miserable piece of shit

>>712880574 (OP)
Unskippable cutscenes in any game it happens but FFX to give an example.

>>712881587
>use SAM
>problem solved

>>712880574 (OP)
The goddamn sticker bullshit in sticker star. Fuck that game, and fuck you.

>>712880574 (OP)
>Permanently missable items, especially if they're tied to the true ending. Fuck you Illusion of Gaia.
>That horrible puke-inducing missile level in Bayonetta, and even worse the actual fun boss fight isn't a separate stage.
>The Spider Ball boss in the gamecube version of Metroid Prime 2 that doesn't have a spring ball.
>Tripping in Brawl.
>The obscenely long password system for Bomberman 1 on the NES with the awful character selection method. Seriously, why do you need 16 characters to figure out what stage you're at and what powerups you got? Bubble Bobble only needs 5, and it has a better interface, too.
>Any RPG with random unavoidable enemy encounters. Yes, all of them. It's NEVER been a good mechanic.
>The fucking Dark Grape spawn rates in Xenoblade chronicles.
>Terraria's spawn rates in general.
>Long unskippable cutscenes, or slow scripted setpieces that are boring as fuck. Eat shit, Signalis.
>Like 90% of what was added to the Repentance expansion for Isaac. No, a few 1/10 items getting buffed to be 2/10s doesn't excuse Jacob and Esau, Tainted Cain, forced damage for alt paths, the boring Knife chase sequences, and the countless fun item nerfs.
>The comically tiny text font so many modern games now have. I shouldn't need to squint when playing on a 60 inch screen.

>>712880574 (OP)
Any game that is pay to win.

>>712883142
I can never hate a game as much as Sticker Star. It's not the worst game I've ever played, but it is the most offensive and inexcusable one, it has not ONE redeeming quality.

that lame ass FFX thing where you have to open the correct chests in the right order to get the super weapon

basically anything put into a game purely to get people to buy strategy guides due to how bullshit it is

>>712883120
who's sam? she sounds cute. lol

>>712880617
I played 50 hours waiting for the game to get good and realized it will actually not get good, this is what the game is and it's pure garbage.

Planes in ground battles in War Thunder, or artillery in World of Tanks. I guess it adds realism because you randomly explode from something so far away you have no way to actually account for it. In both games people use the same defense, "It prevents camping" when in reality you're more likely to get bombed if you stick your neck out. If there's only a few people left on the map and you need to capture the middle point, guess what the guy in the plane does when he sees the point is being captured and someone must be sitting in the circle that might have zero fucking cover.

Playin really well, beating everyone, then getting hit by a blue shell. Fuck mario kart

>>712881242
>play game
>complain that it's too easy
>finally beat it and unlock hard mode
>"finally! let's play this shit in hard mode!"
>90% of the shit I completed, I had to do again but now with enemies with... inflated stats
>begrudgingly played through it again, spamming the exact same skill strats while unlocking the same weapons... but better!
>finish it again for the hard mode trophy
>come out disliking the game because they NEEDED to lock the hard mode behind easy mode for some fucking reason

>Party members can evade healing/support spells.

Faggots are going to reply "filtered" but I dont give a shit.
XCOM's "difficulty".
It's the worst type because of increasing the challenge by using smarter tactics it's just
>lol you missed despite being two feet away
>lol the alien 300 feet away hit you behind cover
The actual gameplay is great but ultimately I install it once a year, get to a certain point and then uninstall this shit.

>>712885101
*instead of

>>712880574 (OP)
Mimic save points

>>712880931
I'm pretty sure he turns 41 in season 1

>>712884768
not every game can be DaS2

>>712885208
I can only think of two games that do that and one of them is a trial and error troll game to begin with.

>>712883495
I don't remember that
I remember 12 making you avoid opening certain unremarkable chests to get the super weapon

>>712885352
That's way too many, it's indefensible

>>712883495
You mean FFXII and, luckily, that removed that retarded shit in IZJS and onward. Also, you're only locked out of getting the Zodiac Spear EASILY; you can still get it the hard way.

>>712885413
Name one that isn't FFXII or IWBTG and I may agree.

>>712885348
Why the fuck not?

>>712880574 (OP)
unskippable cutscenes

>>712880574 (OP)
It was from this FeMC life-sim porn game, but this fucking Slavic rat thought that having to manually charge your phone was part of the "gameplay experience." Absolute krok-brained rat.

Play enough porn games, especially lesser-known H-games, and you'll come across a lot of shit like that. Stuff that lets you know that the dev fundamentally does not know what makes a game tick, or why it is that games often give you time to get invested in characters before killing/making them fall for the dick.

>>712881236
that was a thing since demon's souls dark souls 1 was the exception

>>712885486
How does it become indefensible at 3 but it's fine at 2? Either it is or it isn't (it is)

>>712881236
Instant warping isn't the problem. The problem was that in DS2, the bonfires were so fucking close together that it made having instant warping needless.

>>712885616
Demon's let you warp to the start of each level, not to up to 5 points within that level

>>712885679
Because, for me, it's defensible in those two game. I'm asking for another example because maybe it is indefensible in that game and I might see where you're coming from.

>>712885593
This just to a greater point in general about games in that realism should be ignored unless a)It makes the game more enjoyable or b) you are specifically catering to a "hardcore" audience or a simulation audience.
Encumbrance does not need to be a thing in RPGs. It only serves to force more time wasted in menus and fast traveling back and forth to storehouses.

>>712880574 (OP)
Ignoring monetization for actual aspects of the game maybe rubber banding in races
I don’t give a shit if leaving the cpu in the dust would remove all challenge. If I run the race better, I should win

>>712880574 (OP)
Class levels in Tactics Ogre PSP and Soul Memory in Dark Souls II

>>712880574 (OP)
Weapon durability

>>712880574 (OP)
Grind. Any drop chance that isn't 100% is bad game design. A monster in MH should drop all the materials needed for one piece of armor or one weapon every time you kill it. Diablo and its clones should have handplaced, unique loot, or not exist at all. Treadmills are not video games.

>>712880913
That's good though. Just figure it out.

>>712885101
>lol you missed despite being two feet away
You genuinely were filtered though.

RNG keeps the game interesting and rewards actual strategy and tactics by forcing the player to have backup plans and deal with everything not always going as planned rather than turning every encounter into a puzzle or a math problem which is typically what happens in TBS games without it. The actual gameplay is not separate from the RNG. You should also use that apple visualizing brain to realize the combat is abstracted and the sectoid isn't just standing two feet away but he's dashing to cover or firing back and that's why your soldier misses.

Finishing a fetch quest but because I handed the item to the NPC instead of telling them about it, they interpret it as a gift. Or an NPC follower making another NPC hostile to me while I did nothing.

Crafting that has fixed recipes, requiring rare/limited drops with success rates and if you fail you lose all or some of the mats

>>712880617
>>712881197
If Elden Ring in general or a game just being mediocre is the 'most indefensible, bullshit thing' you can think of then I don't understand why you're on a board for a medium you barely engage with.

>>712880574 (OP)
Dishonored 1 with the 250 mo memory limit of the 360 making corpses disappear. And ragdoll physics turning non lethal playthroughs into a gambling and a savestate simulator
>oops, that guard's body decided to turn rogue and noclip into that crate, he's gonna be eaten by rats when you look the other way
>oops, that one just started slipping from them shelves/crates/inclined roof, now he's falling down and because you need to keep pressed the button to grab him back you won't have time to catch hig- wow he's making a big splat haha! Now enjoy reloading.

>>712885101
I kinda agree, the game should just show the actual likelihood of you connecting with a shot instead of falsely claiming 99% which is obviously a lie & tell you that they're omnipotent aliens with 10000% accuracy ratings across one billion yards of distance.
I just played the game assuming I'd always miss & they'd always hit me, if something good happened I was blessed by lady luck.

Fire Emblem Fates revelation route. Just everything about it reeked of ass, compared to the godly conquest route.

>>712887903
Or better yet don't even show percentage chances since thats the actual effect of lying about it.

>>712887903
>the actual likelihood of you connecting with a shot instead of falsely claiming 99% which is obviously a lie
If the game ever rigs it (depending on difficulty) then it's rigging it in your favor. I think EU is always accurate and 2 lies but only when it's giving you a boost on easier difficulties.

>>712888218
I'm not claiming its rigged I'm claiming the stated probability is a lie, especially in the EU & early on in EW & 2. The latter two seemed more accurate off rip & got progressively more accurate as characters leveled up but still totally outside the stated probabilities. 97% chance to hit was far less than a coin flip for example, it was virtually guaranteed to miss almost every single time with an occasional lucky hit.

>>712880574 (OP)
>easy and medium mode having its own unlocks
>they dont unlock if you start with hard mode

>>712888969
>I'm claiming the stated probability is a lie
And I'm saying it's not. People have dug through the game's code and tested it. People are just not good at judging probability. There's a reason other games like FE actually changed it to give more weight to high numbers and less to low ones (which also ends up being very much in the player's favor) to get rid of complaints.

>>712880931
a fucking kid

>>712880574 (OP)
Every single game system in Project Zomboud

>>712880574 (OP)
>what is the most indefensible, bullshit thing in any game you've played?
Paradox Interactive

>>712889728
>they tested it & confirmed its totally realistic for a 97% chance of something happening to be overwhelmingly beaten out by calling heads on a coin flip in real life
So what you're saying is reality is lying about probabilities & I should lose calling heads on coin flips the vast majority of the time like I do with 97% chance shots in xcom.

>>712880574 (OP)
pay 2 win cash shop, started with d3

the faux gacha system for pulling blades in xenoblade chronicles 2

>play game
>It dies on the vine

>>712880574 (OP)
>DMC5 has full network support for co-op play
>This even includes Steam integration so you are more likely to get matched with people on your friend lists
>This entire feature is limited to a handful of arenas in one level and a single boss fight in another. Zero integration with Bloody Palace.

Thank goodness for the co-op trainer. I might have gotten twice the hours out of that game vibing in BP with my brother. It's one of the best co-op experiences in vidya and they arbitrarily kept it to a bottleneck.
I have no words for how much I hate that they got this close and stopped at what they did.
What makes it several times worse is that the Switch version of DMC3 released within a year of DMC5 and has co-op Bloody Palace so they know it's a great idea.

>>712880574 (OP)
Dark Souls 2 preview builds getting downgraded for the real game.

>>712890706
I'm saying that you, as a human being, are terrible at judging probability especially over a decent sample size and also inherently biased. Again, this is why other devs change it so that a 95% chance is actually just shy of 100% because that's what the average person expects and they get complaints otherwise. I guess the alternative is that there's obfuscated code hidden in the game designed just to lie to the player and somehow nobody's figured it out despite people analyzing their actual results ingame.

>>712891317
I can install EW right now & I'd bet everything I own & every penny I have to my name that that I can flip a coin on the ground calling heads in real life & take a 97% shot each 50 times in a row & I'll have more successful calls for heads than shots hitting in the game. I'm confident because based on dozens of hours of pattern recognition from playing the game the real life 50/50 will skew far more in my favor than the alleged 97% chance.
Its possible that I experienced a series of coincidences but given the widespread criticism that the odds of hitting are bullshit I really doubt that my experience is unique.

>>712892027
Alright, do it then. Record it and upload the evidence so everybody can see the game is lying.

>>712880574 (OP)
The way new Souls game were sped up beyond they were designed. So much for my medieval fantasy game. Nah, it's all about how many times you can roll before your brain melts now.

>have to talk to nothing copy paste NPCs for vital info
>english version replaces 80% of the dialogue with nonsensical cryptic shit so you have no idea what to do without the guide
Take a guess.
>>712883183
Tripping in Brawl definitely takes the cake for me. The epitome of WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

>>712892086
If you're willing to bet real money, enough to justify spending hour of my time starting up a new game & recording it & the coin flipping I will do it.
Throw a number at me.

>>712885101
Original X-com did it right I don't know how nuXCOM fucked it up so bad

The crafting system in Tactics Ogre.

An RTS game called broken arrow just came out, and for some goddamn reason lacks the ability to play a 1v1 versus AI. If you try to fight AI, it requires you to be in a 3v3 format, and has no friendly AI, so the game will mot start unless you find three other human players to play with. The community was outraged until someone realized the restriction can be flipped off by changing some words in an ini file. So there was no singleplayer purely because the devs turned it off on purpose.

>>712892550
I don't care that much, bro. I hopefully won't even be awake in an hour and I certainly have no interest in spending time trying to determine whether or not you're rigging a run or wagering with someone on 4chan in general. If that makes you think you must be right and I'm wrong then more power to you. I'm just telling you if you think that's true and it's that easily provable then you should do it, upload it to youtube, and prove everyone else is a fool.

Unfinished updates/expansions/dlc.
Or DLC that was already in the game, but you have to buy to get access to despite it already being in the game itself.
Basically anything corporations do to get more money out of their consumers in cheap as fuck ways. I notice this kind of shit and it makes me get a refund every time.

>>712880574 (OP)
hit rate scaling on your level in xenoblade chronicles
fuck that dogshit awful game for gaylords

>>712890995
> Oh nobody knows what the fuck I’m talking about

rubber bullets

every paradox game

>Grind for XX hours
>To earn XXXX game currency
>To buy a lootbox
>That has 5% chance of containing the item you want
>With 3 random traits
>Each of which has 10% chance of not being complete dogshit

>Single-player game

>>712880574 (OP)
Things like this
>I dont get it...I played it perfectly and the boss still killed me
Yeah...
https://youtu.be/sWNZ0y6tkiA

>>712880574 (OP)
Pressing pause skips the cutscene.

I'm gonna take every dev who did this and I'm going to drown them in shit and scream THESE ARE THE TURDS YOU MADE ME HOLD IN YOU FUCKERS
PEEPEE POOPOO IT'S OVER FOR YOU
And then I shit them to death.

>>712894156
I always hate games that do the following
>You meet up with a quest NPC and need to follow him up to a certain point
>He starts telling you about the mission/dumps lore while you're walking
>If you somehow reach the point of interest too early, his dialogue just abruptly stops and he just says "ok, we're here, now, see that tower over there, you need to steal the key..."
Its like why the fuck would you design the game in such a shitty way? Why even have the story info/lore dumps during that part?

>>712884956
>Darkest Dungeon
>Occultist heal
>Roll 0 +Bleed
Good fucking shit

>Playing Shenmue 2.
>Get to the part where you need to impress the scout by fighting different people.
>Really struggling with the one opponent who can easily 1HKO of the ring.
>Terrible at fighting games, so I try to learn and use different moves.
>Nothing is working, he keeps knocking out of the ring.
>Get mad and just spam regular punch combo.
>Win.

>>712880574 (OP)
that mission in gta SA with the toy plane
fuck that mission

>>712880574 (OP)

>>712896991
I cannot think of a worse ending for a game, not even the ME3 pick a color comes close.

>>712894156
How the fuck do so few games have pausable cutscenes, it shouldn't be that hard.

>>712896991
Would you prefer this or the seething dev version where he goes in the chamber and the epilogue pretends the protagonist was a coward

>>712887903
>that they're omnipotent aliens with 10000% accuracy ratings across one billion yards of distance.
Aliens have flat accuracy but it's unaffected by distance so long potshots and point blank are the same chances.
Percentages only rig in your favor but depending on the game the RNG is seeded so you have to take actual different moves for it to work if you're save scumming. The only issue is 2 acrion, six squad member limit preventing law of large numbers ever helping you while turn units you can squeeze off 3 snap shots with 14 rookies.

>>712882541
kek based

>>712897228
ME is worse because it's more story driven
But F3 ending is a bigger asspull for sure

>>712882352
Better than the sphere + rat or snecko with 5+ full turns of only 3 costs cards in your hand

>>712896991
The shittiest part of this isn't the mandatory sacrifice, it's that they clearly wrote an intended ending and then later realized "oh wait why wouldn't you just send in Fawkes" and instead of reflecting on this and coming up with a better excuse, they just gave him this pathetic line. It's the overall laziness of it that speaks to the poor writing of these games in general.

I never played Wolfenstein 2 because they locked Uber difficulty behind beating the game first. I played the previous games on Uber so no fucking way am i playing the whole game on easy mode first just to play it on the difficulty i want

>>712880574 (OP)
How Dark Souls 1 ruined the Souls series.

Like Shattered Soldier before it, Neo Contra has part of the endgame gated behind maintaining an A-rank average across the game's first five stages, and stage 6 is almost entirely a multi-stage boss battle, with the last part being a TIMED boss battle (pic related). This battle is not difficult in theory, but you have to inflict max damage possible in 30 seconds while shadow clones, space lasers, and attacks designed to make your character slowly recover from having been tripped (in a CONTRA game).
If you can't do it, game over. Back to the title screen. Extra lives? Fuck 'em. Came in with continues? Aren't you sweet. Back to the title screen. You can try practicing that stage when you make it back to the menu, but your in-game progress still isn't saved, so you'll have to spend close to an hour maintaining high-level play across the first five stages again just to try it again for real.

>>712882541
Infocom Hitchhiker vibes coming from this one.

>>712880574 (OP)
platforming mechanics in Elden Ring
no, I do not want to jump tombstone to tombstone with imprecise jumping and slidey movement controls
no, I do not want to stand in a small crevice, pushed up against a wall to dodge a fire or a moving blade chariot, both of which still hit me because the invisible hitboxes still connect somehow

for real though whoever came up with these for ER, needs to stop making games altogether. Or switch genres at the very least.

>>712880574 (OP)
Unskippable cutscenes

>>712880574 (OP)
>Achievement is no longer obtainable because the service required to unlock it shut down and they didn't bother updating it

>>712885101
I completely believe that tactics games are instantly total dogshit tier if they have hit percentage. You have to implement guaranteed hits to even enter the running to be a passable tactics game. There is absolutely nothing gained by having a constant random "lol, you thought you could win, get FUCKED" chance to occur at any moment.

There has never been and never will be a good tactics game where you have to hinge your entire run on a series of 70% chance to hit shots in a row.

>>712900194
>giving a fuck about achievements
shiggy diggy

>>712893095
>broken arrow came out

holy shit

I wanted TES 6
I compromised
I bought Oblivion remastered

>play bo6
>spawn in enemies camp 90% of time

>>712900875
>buying games
in general, but especially
>buying a remaster
total retard alert

>>712880574 (OP)
1. Pre orders
2. Remasters
3. Paid dlc

>>712901104
>>buying a remaster
>total retard alert
It's even worse, anon: he bought an Oblivion remaster

>>712880669
Still the most autistic complaint out there. How about you build a combat skill or make some potions or poisons or make a spell or enchant a weapon or use all your non combat spells to build fighting power just by working in the cities and all this shit

>>712880574 (OP)
Consort Radahn on release

>>712880574 (OP)
>>712880617
Malenia healing on hit even though you're blocking 100% of the damage.

>>712880574 (OP)
Unskippable interactive cutscenes in first person games that take away player control and force you to watch retarded, slow actions with exaggerated hand movements until something nearby your character happens to push you into the next scripted event.

Weapon attacking missing in Morrowind. I would have been fine if your damage got reduced but missing entirely was very retarded.

>>712892134
I actually like the rollfests, but yeah it'd be neat if FromSoft released another IP that has DeS and DaS speed alongside the cracked out boss rush games. I want to feel what I felt playing DaS for the first time again.

>>712882541
provided the game isn't too long, that sounds kinda based ngl

>>712901350
>broke ass bandits in ebony/glass
>end missions are now daedroth, storm atronach and Xivilai spam
Shit is retarded.

>>712880617
>>712881197
>>712881309
threadly reminder that shazam lost so hard they started saying dumb shit like "spiritually flopped"

>>712900213
>You have to implement guaranteed hits to even enter the running to be a passable tactics game
I'll never understand the notion that you need everything to be guaranteed to be a 'real' tactics game when the very nature of tactics is messy and uncertain where you can only hedge the odds as much in your favor as possible. What good commander or squad leader in history that's seen actual combat has been able to say with 100% certainty that their soldier will hold a position if somebody pushes him? Which one hasn't had to take risks with the lives of his men or have backup plans for when things go awry? None. Yet somehow we're able to distinguish great military leaders. Almost as if risk assessment and dealing with uncertainty and putting people in the right positions to maximize their chances of success even if it cannot be guaranteed are valuable skills until somebody throws a fit that their guy missed a shot in a video game.
>you have to hinge your entire run on a series of 70% chance to hit shots in a row
You don't have to do this in XCOM. The fact that you think you do is evidence your actual tactics are just dogshit and you're not nearly as good as you think you are. But I'm sure you'll continue coping it's all RNG regardless. Don't bother replying, I'm closing the tab, I had my fill of anons stubbornly whining about their skill issues for the week before I even opened this thread.

>>712880574 (OP)
>DaS1
>dodge 1.5 meters away from boss attempting a grab
>character clears the attack
>rubberband back into the bosses hand and die from the ensuing damage
Souls should have just stayed on the PS3 as a one-off mediocre artslop game

>>712901350
The entire game world suddenly being filled with nothing but high level enemies in every single location does not make sense nor is it enjoyable. This is why most RPGs scatter more challenging encounters throughout the world.

>>712880669
level scaling isn't the problem. if you use the +5 mod where you don't have to grind attribute points across all your skills unnecessarily, the level scaling problem solves itself.
t. figured that out a couple years ago when I replayed and still think the game is dog shit almost 20 years later

>>712885776
>not to up to 5 points within that level
lol
retard

>>712903031
No it doesn't. Even with 100 in all attributes you'll still regularly come up against daedra and dickheads in full glass sets in virtually every interior. And you will need some decent enchanted weapons to keep taking them down.

>>712881052
this. awful mechanic

>>712880574 (OP)
Assault Horizon - Dogfight Mode

>>712900194
>achievement to win a multiplayer match against a dev
>devs have abandoned the game

>>712880574 (OP)
Always-online requirements for single player games.

>>712902818
"risk assessment" and what they mean is a tactics game where the enemies can spawn and then free move wherever they want and you can randomly miss all your shots and die.
Maybe fps games should also have your attacks randomly do nothing because nothing in life is guaranteed.

>Don't bother replying, I'm closing the tab
lol

>>712880931
...and?

>>712887903
Fire Emblem actually does this

Kingdom Hearts 2 has a bossfight that'll randomly stop to make you kill 50 enemies in 10 seconds, and if you can't do it then you just lose. No justification, no cutscene of you getting overwhelmed or whatever, just a straight game over. Oh, and the boss is in the middle of a scripted sequence that you can't leave to go level up, so if you saved you're basically soft-locked. Absolute dogshit game.

>>712881827
what game

>>712880574 (OP)
Star Ocean 3 item creation
Original FFXII zodiac spear
That abscess fight in original SMTV that is just lvl 99 starter demons, an acknowledgement from the devs that most of the games challenge derives from the damage scaling based on level difference

>>712887293
>spoiler
retard.

>>712904245
motherfukken THIS so much this
there is NO legitimate reason to put this shite in games apart from GREED bc they want that sweet macrotransaction moolah

>>712881242
The combat is sadly held back by the skill cooldowns. They take to long to comeback so you're just mashinging basic attacks with a couple magic burst tossed in most of the time. Tougher enemies with abilities being more frequently used would have helped it so much.

>>712880574 (OP)
>6 enemies shooting at you
>get out of cover
>die
>kill 2 enemies
>take too long killing the rest
>2 more come out and replace the dead guys
>maybe I just need to kill a few more
>kill enemies for 4 minutes
>walk up 5 feet
>cutscene triggers
Infinetly respawning enemies and respawn closets in general

Death Stranding

>>712880574 (OP)
ffxiv glamour system
imagine wow transmogs, but to get the item appearance you have to physically store it in a wardrobe, it has a limit of 400 items, and appearances aren’t account-wide

>>712896991
>>712898442
I could buy Fawkes pulling this shit because he's a LARPing weirdo, but Charon (the ghoul who's literally mindbroken to obey any order the holder of his contract gives him) and the robot also doing it is beyond fucking retarded

>>712904524
that minigame gets a lot easier when you realize that, despite being the water guy, he (and his water clones) are weak to fire

>>712880617
i dont get why people like elden ring in a world where nioh 2 exists

>>712905752
Does the game ever give you a hint for that or anything? Because how the fuck are you supposed to figure that out otherwise?

>>712906015
Diablo lootslop filters a lot of people

>>712904524
>>712905752
You're just supposed to spam the reaction command, you grab one of the water things and spin it around in a huge AOE which kills a ton of them at once

>>712902398
They get stronger when you do. Every level is a monster spam, they’re just different monsters.

>>712881197
AI generated post

>>712904524
>nooooo, mashing Y repeatedly is so hard!
Anon, come on now

>>712892134
This. But on a broader scale; Souls gradual evolution into becoming fighting games. I just want medieval fantasy adventure.

>>712880574 (OP)
Open inventory in all the souls games
>Wow I sure do love having to use my entire inventory because the other guy is also using his entire inventory and then turning on cheat engine when he breaks one of my arbitrary rules on what is fair. This surely won't spawn game breaking bugs! Why does fromsoft keep nerfing invaders?????

>>712882352
Everyone insists the heart is supposed to be unfair so I can't complain but fuck that shit.

Getting to the heart and I have two bad draws in the first two turns is enough to fucking destroy you.

I have gotten better at lowering the chances of this happening but the notion of playing perfectly and still losing is very present always, at least past ascension 6. Which I always play at ascension 9 personally.

I never thought pronouns and they/them bullshit would bother me until it infected my favorite game series.
https://youtu.be/yA5CHDSTdT8?si=BrFf2QoGi54-UkDV

>>712907394
Oh fuck this, and fuck people defending it.
If you have 15-year old G-fuel fingers, or use macros, you effectively have infinite loadouts.
It defeats the entire point of armament slots and weight limits. There's no opportunity cost, no sacrifice. Just pump big vigor, hit the minimum stat requirements and away you go.

>reload
>lose ammo

>reload
>bullets magically refill the magazine

Games that remember magazine counts are kino. Bonus points if it straight up doesn't tell me how much is left it lets me guess by looking.

>>712904596
Lost planet comes in mind. They finally removed the microsoft shit but completly killed multiplayer

The time an adventure game wanted me to turn off the game's music in the settings as the actual solution to a puzzle

>>712880617
FPBP

>>712906834
>>712907004
>DOOD just mash the button and hope for the best!
I did. Sometimes it'd work, sometimes it didn't. And the boss can just do it again, so if you mess up once then you have to do it all again.
>UR JUST BAD!!!
Yeah, I've been bad at games before, but usually I'm having fun too. This is just another layer of nonsense on top of an overall unfun game.

>>712908195
Personally I thought that this was a pretty creative puzzle

>>712880931
he never had the makings of a varsity athlete

>>712882541
that's funny

>>712904524
what? isnt that the data version of demnyx that does the insane adds phase shit? the regular fight is free as fuck, data version literally requires you to be in wisdom form to kill the adds fast enough

Tales sidequest availability.
>Do main story event flag #44.
>Flag #45 is literally like two steps away.
>BUT at this exact moment in time an NPC has spawned on the opposite side of the world in a town you haven't had reason to visit in the last 10 hours.
>There is zero indication this dude has appeared at all.
>If you do not talk to this NPC before flag #45, that's it. You're cucked out of the sidequest.
>A bunch of sidequests do this like 5 times for extra "fuck you, buy our guide."

>>712880617
Holy first post best post Batman

>>712909701
game?

>>712880574 (OP)
The final mission of the first Armored Core game.
After fighting some enemies, they make you do an absurdly long platforming section in a FAST PACED MECH SHOOTER, and if you fall you do it all over again, while you're being shot at and knocked off.
Once you suffer through that, you fight the strongest character in the game who is literally using hacks, and once you kill him, you fight ANOTHER ONE later, and only then do you beat the mission
If you die once you have to restart the level, no checkpoints

>>712880574 (OP)
Games that peak in the first 3 hours then either slowly or quickly fall off in quality.
Tailor made to wow journos and avoid steam refunds.

>>712885760
Checkpoint placement in souls games has been a slowly boiling frog issue for me. Used to be that clearing the area with enough flasks left to make a solid attempt was apart of the challenge but now having checkpoints outside of every boss arena has become the norm.

>>712880821
>Have to play through ~20-25 hour game to unlock a KEY for hard mode
>Which you can then give to other players but you cannot use it yourself
>This is also true for easy mode for some inexplicable reason
>And whether you get the key for hard or easy mode is entirely dependant on which version of the game you bought
Pokemon BW2

>>712881121
>he can see the ground in poe
I only finds out about damage on ground because it's the only times my life decrease.

BOTW and TOTK weapons breaking every 8 hits without any simple way to repair them. You just hoard good shit and throw aticks the rest of the game. Fucking terrible gsme design. The archaic way you could repair weapons was indefensible

>>712880574 (OP)
Excessive, mandatory interminable grind stacked with RNG bullshit. You may implement, if and only if absolutely necessary for a legitimate reason, one and only one:
>excessive, terminable grind
>mandatory, terminable grind
>RNG-based interminable grin

this entire fucking fight. every single aspect of it. it's as if they took the word "molestation" and made it into a boss

>unskippeable cutscenes
>video game disables Spotify on PS4

>>712880574 (OP)
LITERALLY fucking impossible

>>712880574 (OP)
Slow text that can't be sped up or, worse, unskippable voice acting.

Shadow 05. One of the worst games I've ever played that zoomers are trying to meme into "it's an underrated masterpiece!". 06 is better than this garbage.

>>712884956
>Spell reflect reflects healing to enemy

>>712913862
I got everything I could equipped and still can't make a dent in his health, it's stupid.

>>712909964
holy fucking newfag

>>712914557
>ally dodges healing bolt
>it goes on to hit your undead buddy
>instakills them because healing hurts undead

yellow/red cards in ffta

>>712915330
These could've been good if each mission had its own ban to make it unique but the game putting it on a fucking global cycle is mind numbingly stupid.

>>712880574 (OP)
Unlocking custom moves in Smash 4

>>712880574 (OP)
>>712880931
He also survived the ending of the show

There was auto balance in the multiplayer of an RTS game called World in Conflict. I was tryharding and pulled back out team from the brink of defeat, 2 people on the enemy team quit, and I got sent to the enemy team to lose with a few mins left in the game. I never played it again and I still get mad when I think about it

>>712883746
TRUTH NUKE

>>712881052
Sailing with your friends singing sea shanties is fun. Doing it by yourself is boring.

>>712910092
The platforming section sucks and you're right about it being a drag. As for the back to back Nineball fights, git gud.

>>712904524
>play kingdom hearts for the first time a few years ago because friend is playing it
>tells me to play it on hard
>kind of gay but whatever
>get to the jack sparrow mission
>if he dies (even though he's immortal?) it's a game over
>can't even get the boss to half hp without the retard dying over 10 attempts

Enemy spam. Genesis Beauty and the Beast (boy version) is one.

>>712880574 (OP)
>have to data drain enemies to progress the plot
>have to data drain to complete main story dungeons
>every data drain has a chance to give you a game over and start from your last save point which means doing the entire dungeon over again

>>712881052
Imo this would be acceptable if killing the region boss lifted the restriction for the current tier of ore, so you're still encouraged to build in new areas but aren't penalized for wanting to go back and get lower tier or for whatever reason

>>712880574 (OP)
Any sneak mission where you have to change from the main character to the person you are rescuing

If they die then you die/lose the mission too

>>712917364
doesn't data drain only kill you if your virus level or whatever its called reaches 100%?

>>712900194
>Game is no longer obtainable because the company behind it is retarded and shut down
FTFY

>>712913775
You listen to sportify on your console while playing games on the console? Are you fucking retarded?

>>712882541
Why would picking up collectibles lock you out of the ending? What's the through-line here?

>>712903991
Any other case besides this one?

>>712880821
Ya i fucking hate when games do this.

>miss a hidden treasure chest
>locked out of the best weapon/skill in the game, can't go back to get chest

>>712880574 (OP)
Time-limited assassin's creed content in FFXV. There was a whole quest area and cosmetic unlocks. I wasn't in the mood to play it for a while but one day I had nothing better to do so I decided to play it so I would have the unlocks for ng+. The day before I decided to do this they pushed an update which removed the content from my fucking single player fucking game. FOMO is complete cancer but at the time I thought it only existed in live service garbage. I dropped FFXV and never touched it again and I haven't bought anything else from square shitnix. I know FFXV sucks but I still somehow had fun with it. I can't wait for this fucking shit ass company to die.

>>712880574 (OP)
Blizzard making the original Warcraft 3 unplayable officially with their dogshit remake and removing features that were in the original

>>712918695
Frozen Synapse

>have a quirky, iconic rhythm/RPG franchise that help define a console's library
>toss out all sense of fun, playfulness, and adventure
>retool the entire game to be an MMO
>systematically destroy any goodwill for all named characters in the series
>end the series-wide plot and all associated mysteries in the most stupid, pointless way imaginable
>turn off the console's online servers one (1) year after the game's release
>permanently tank the series' reputation, condemning it only to rereleases and poor-quality clones
>be Sony with Patapon 3

>>712881827
I cant of anything like this outside of WC Reforged. I still cant bring myself to touch that game again and its the point I gave up on Blizzard. Is it still censored?

>>712887293
>they make you stay on your toes
>by just completely randomly saying "lol no" at point blank range
>so you implement your backup plan of shooting from somewhere else and also getting "lol no" at point blank range
Retard.

>>712919271
I never played 3 was it really that bad?

>>712904524
I just want to say fuck Kingdom Hearts 3 and breaking eggs

>>712919579
Yes. I could give you an itemized list of everything they fucked up, but it's much easier just to say that 3 took out every single good element of 1 and 2 and replaced it with low-quality MMO nonsense that made the entire game redundant one year after it came out. If you're playing the series, stop after 2.

>>712880574 (OP)
There's a mission in Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere where you have to fight the two best pilots in the game in a fucking above-ground bunker. You have about 300 feet of wriggle room up and down. You're on the route with the fucking WORST planes. Like absolute DOGSHIT. You can barely fucking turn, there are still BUILDINGS in this cramped space. Pillars you have to avoid. And the pair are specifically using some bullshit SUPER PLANES which can do ridiculous fucking nonsense bullshit movement.

The S rank for that mission is 2:30 but it took me 4 hours.

Forced stealth in a game without any stealth mechanics.

Being burden by item weight. What do you mean if I carry just 1 more pound I suddenly move slow as shit?

>>712919894
I think I dropped Hotline Miami when I first played it because of the stealth section

>>712880574 (OP)
early access

>>712919975
>Item weight limit
>Breakable weapons
Which is worse?

The rain in Breath of the Wild that always seems to know when you want start climbing shit.

>>712892369
I'm probably wrong but Breath of Fire 2 on the SNES had a comically bad translation. I think there's several points where they outrright tell you the wrong town to find story trigger NPCs.

>>712920838
breakable weapons. i like to do dedicated one weapon runs

>>712887293
You're a shit eating retard. The dice roll board game style gameplay of the nuCOM games is garbage, and will never be as tactical or as fun as the oldCOM games.

>>712880574 (OP)
equipment repair and consumable crafting

>>712880574 (OP)
All western woke games

>>712887293
this

>>712880821
It's from before the age of steam sales, and each game was a dedicated purchase that you would sink weeks of your life towards. I wouldn't be surprised if half of all yakuza players never even reached an Amon fight

Why did Phil never utilize his house transformation jutsu again?

>>712924107
Chakra reserves got fucked from all the gay sex during his 20 years in the can. The prostate is what maintains a healthy flow of chakra.

>>712880574 (OP)
Years 1-2 of For Honor without a doubt. It was the most unbalanced sack of shit to play with 70% of the Roster being useless past a certain point because everything they did was slow and reactable or from just having a nonfunctioning kit. The viable characters? All of them had one or two moves that were completely broken, every engagement with said heroes would just devolve into spamming that one move over and over again.

And on top of that you had all of the numerous exploits and cheese you could pull off because of the fucked geometry, instant death mechanics and spaghetti code such as the infamous unlock exploits, numerous option selects, instant killing people from guard breaks etc.

>>712924805
I'd kill for a For Honor 2. I'd honestly guzzle down Ubisofts piss shit and cum for a For Honor 2. There's just no other game like it and it looks so good compared to the chiv-like games. But yeah the balancing sucked ass.

>>712925074
I don't think we're getting a For Honor 2 since they already announced we're getting a Year 10

>Yakuza Kiwami
>Jingu Boss Fight
I've never raged as hard as I did during this shit. The whole game I was playing on hard and did fine enough, but this ONE FIGHT where
>Soldiers have high HP bars and guns that give them range and stagger you
>Main boss always rushes you down
>Even if you kill his soldiers LMAO THEY JUST RESPAWN XD
>Can barely get back up before you're staggered again
I raged so hard it was to the point of me going schizo yelling at my fucking monitor. I set to easy and was so fucking pissed the rest of the game. Fuck this retarded fight

>>712880574 (OP)
Oblivion's level scaling system

>>712880574 (OP)
Fake walls. Any of them. All of them

Scenario 1: You by chance move through a wall and discover that fake walls exist, and now have to try every single fucking wall just in case
Scenario 2: The above, but the devs only did it for this one secret. There are no other fake walls. You still try and hit/move through every single wall in the game not knowing this.

Special mention, items behind trees or bushes/buildings you can't see in fixed camera angles.

>>712880574 (OP)
stormy ascent time trial

dark souls 1 hitboxes and the entirety of persona 3 fight system

>>712880574 (OP)

>game lets you customize your character's appearance via skins/cosmetics/et cetera
>forced to play the game in first person so rarely if ever get to actually see it

Mandatory bullshit mini games you have to beat in order to progress the game.

Fuck you Breath of Fire 3!

>>712926503

San Andreas flight school and also having to date that one bitch in Las Venturas

staves being able to miss in thracia only exists to force resets early in the game when all of your healers have a shit skill stat and they inevitably fail to heal in a crucial moment

>>712926650
retard filter

>>712926735

Nigger I beat the game just fine. I just don't enjoy being forced to do boring chore slop. At least that oyster diving shit was optional.

>>712927171
>unskippable

>>712926343
sometimes that's not a bad thing

A riddler trophies type of mission/quest as part of the main campaign.

>Scarface world is yours
>Basically own the entire state of Florida by the end
>Billionaire
>Walking arsenal
>AY YO TONY YOU NEED TO GET REVENGE AGAINST THE GUY THAT DID THIS TO YOU
>IMA KILL THAT COCKAROACH
>Get dropped off in an isolated island with just a pistol regardless of what you where carrying

>>712918484
>>712918484
A videogame should not have authorization to change features of private property.

>>712880574 (OP)
Unskippable cutscenes.

>>712926039
those are kino, you just need to get the instinct for 'em

>>712888182
>that one singlar note after it's faded completely to black
yup
that's got my vote

>>712906015
>nioh 2
Should I play Nioh 1 first or should I skip it?

>game has a mechanic
>better yet, game SERIES has a mechanic
>it's been consistent since day one for multiple games
>sequel suddenly changes it without explanation for ONE instance in the entire game

Guess the fucking game.

>>712929125
Watchdogs Legion

>>712917960
Any sneak mission in a non stealth game. Its never good.

>>712916424
Actually he didn't.

>>712929912
For me it's those fixed camera angles in OoT sneaking into the castle, or the Deku Scrub one in MM
i've seen speed runs, i know you can abuse line of sight in some cases, but it was so ridiculous as a kid

>>712904257
Not him, first person shooter is different because you have direct control of your character. That's not a genuine comparison.
I see what he's saying if you're approaching a tactics game as merely being a commander instructing individual soldiers what to do, vs something more omnipotent. Yeah this lets some bullshit edge cases show up where every soldier whiffs a 90% to hit shot and all your plans amount to shit. But I do find it appealing to have a layer of separation from your dudes on the ground. Like, Total War games have chance to hit baked into it too, it's just harder to notice because of how the combat works. But in an ideal total war game, I'd argue you want separation from your soldiers. You could apply that mindset to Xcom too.

>>712880617
FPBP

>2 gun limit in an FPS with more than 2 guns

>>712930509
>Nooo I have to make tactical decisions about what weapons I carry with me!!!!
You are like a little baby

>>712930748
>>Nooo
opinion discarded

>>712930160
He diddent!

>>712930509
isn't that left 4 dead?

The post-game in any of these games

>>712880574 (OP)
Pointless RPG stats mechancis in a game that doesnt need it. Or scale the enemies up so the player feels like they need it.
Bonus points: If its full of random combination of stats with random values.
Extra bonus points: If to get the item you want to try for a build you have to individually reroll/craft the item WITH AN UNSKIPABLE ANIMATION for the stats and thresholds you want.

In short- If the game has systems that are there JUST to waste (You)r time.
Looking at you, Fatshart with your -tide games and their gear/item bullshit.


Honorable mention: Single savefile/profile with no backwards progression.

>>712881827
vermintide! 1 and 2.

>>712880617
3 years later, still mindbroken

blue price. never felt more cheated in my life

>>712933632
prince*

>>712904596
Warcraft 3, Reforged
downgrade, that forceably patches your 1.8gig strategy game from 2004 with a 32gig texturepack made by outsourced pajeets and tethers you to to a shitty launcher, guts LAN play because the company hated that it allowed people to play together without buying a new copy/cdkey

Also Trackmania2(Canyon) did something similar. 5-7years after launch they made a patch that force downloaded itself if you ever connected online trough the game.
The patch removed massive parts of the game lighting and shadows to owngrade the visuals to make their new game look more appealing. The patch also altered the game physics making some parts of the game literally unplayable.

>>712894084
Skill issue.

>>712901350
Because there is no sense of progress in Oblivion, you can beat the entire game remaining level 1, that simply should not be possible, at least not easily possible, but it is actually the easiest way to beat the game.

>>712883183
Good post.
>The comically tiny text font so many modern games now have. I shouldn't need to squint when playing on a 60 inch screen.
Fucking this. I have to get off the couch whenever I wanna read any terminal or quest text in Cyberpunk 2077. I'm sure it'd be fine if I had my face up against a monitor, but that's not how I relax.

>>712880574 (OP)
this bitch in third strike, or third strike as a whole. great game but a lot of things on it wouldn't fly in today.

>>712923723
>I wouldn't be surprised if half of all yakuza players never even reached an Amon fight
aren't amon fights locked behing 100% or something like that?
Not a yakuza player, I just remeber him being a secret boss from youtube videos.

>>712883183
once i do something legitimately in terraria i felt okay to use mods on other playthroughs
then one of the updates added "journey mode" which included some of the cheat mods stuff like increased spawn rate, love it

>>712880574 (OP)
The fire emblem GBA games where some random mob happens to be holding a Killing Edge and kills your favorite unit. Also the same games when enemies just spawn in behind you after 10 or so turns. They're just cheap ways to force a restart

>>712934529
>bitching about Chun in 3rd Strike when it's the only time she was actually good
>when Ken and Yun exist

>>712934972
ken is not on the same level as chun li even though he is very strong
Yun is and and I hate his stupid ass too.

>>712911583
Sometimes I wonder what even goes on in gamefreak to make decisions like this

>>712927931
>some cutscenes are skippable and some are not and the only way you can find out is by hitting a button

>>712897864
Honestly yeah I'll still take the DLC ending because no matter how hard the devs want to gaslight me into thinking it's the bitch move, fuck them, I'm right and they're retarded.

>>712928906
yeah play nioh 1 first because 2 is easier and has lots more mechanics

>>712880574 (OP)
For me, it's mobile game tier time gating in a singleplayer game. Not "takes 13 turns to research" but insane shit like having the requirements for something and having to wait DAYS to use it.
Absolutely hated this in MGSV, but it didn't get too retarded until you got into the equipment grades intended for FOB play at least. Still left a nasty taste in my mouth despite overall liking the game.

>>712880574 (OP)
Last hits - only being rewarded for a kill if you were the one who dealt the killing blow, and absolutely nothing else otherwise, even if the kill was by an NPC ally.
In many MOBAs.

>>712901350
>Still the most autistic complaint out there
autistic contrarian

>>712934754
Not 100% completion, that'd be absurd considering the absolutely tedious grinds to get true 100% in Yakuza games.
Just 100% side quest completion, which depending on the game can be an annoying grind, but more doable.

>>712936048
are first hits okay so like i use my wizard to cast poison and it does a little damage, then someone else kills it and i get at least partial (good) exp

Hitman's online requirements as a singleplayer game. I put up with it begrudgingly because I like the game, and I recognize it makes some degree of sense for Elusive Targets but if your connection drops while playing one of those then you're boned, and tying basic functionality like gear unlocks to a server connection is absolutely indefensible. I know you can get around the online requirement with Peacock but you shouldn't have to in the first place.

>>712880574 (OP)
I played this shitty robot turn based game with flash graphics that was free on Xbox Gold several years ago. It gave you a new robot after every level, but they were always level 1 so I kept using the same robot. Then in the last level, they make you play in multiple areas as all the robots you collected, so you have to replay the whole game 20 times to get them all leveled up enough to beat it, and I dropped it when I realized this.

>>712906015
I guess people like a lot of the bullshit like running on a horse for 5-10 minutes at a time and more horseback running, and teleporting a lot to minimize the amount of time you spend on a horse and not in combat playing the game. I can understand how people see the lootslop in nioh the same way I do the walking sim horseback aspect of elden ring though, it's just annoying tedious shit that exists to waste your time.

snake puzzle in void stranger

>>712880574 (OP)
Warframe's Durviri Content (both Circuit and The Experience)

>>712900194
Anyone remember the timed achievements on Xbox One?
Shit like "Play Dead Rising 3 during launch week". Basically killed achievement hunting on Xbox entirely. Everyone moved over to doing PlayStation Platinum trophies instead.

>>712937186

>>712936398
Rewarding all contributors is fine and makes sense. Weakening enemies for someone else to kill is still contributing.
That you can, for example, deal 99% of the damage to an enemy that is then killed by an allied tower leading to you getting nothing, or near-nothing, is indefensible.

microtransactions in a single player game

I hate how fucking servile "gamers" are

>>712936868
real
the fact that they are doubling down on the always online shit already with their 007 game with time limited "do this thing to get an item when the game releases" is enough to make me not want to touch it. i was already sick of it with nu-hitman and i'm not taking another assfucking again.

>>712938837
Aside from TES or dark souls style expansions, what single player games have full on cash shops now? I don't play many of them so I've no clue.

>>712903010
But I NEED to go ANYWHERE! It's not a REAL open world if I can't waltz into Lord Killblood's fortress of evil on Mt Deathdoom at level 1! Then the fucking devs are railroading me!

>>712940804
holy crap lois

>>712880574 (OP)
>be someone who likes to 100% a game
>kokoro seeds

>>712941289
>modern nintendo game
>has some collectible that takes tens of hours to grind and hunt for 100%
SURELY I can't be the only one who notices how they keep doing this to justify the prices, right?

>>712938315

>>712941289
>>712941495
Tears made it so much fucking worse too. Having to hunt through the boring shitty Hyrule that's practically 1:1 from the last game along with a shitty tacked on gimmick like the underground all to get absolutely nothing worth caring about is insane.

>>712880617
>>712881197
Literally even Miyazaki couldn't believe people ate that shit up. He literally apologized before the game came out and at least initially said he would do things completely different.

>>712941289
>>712941495
100%ers deserve to suffer

>>712942164
I WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING THE GAME HAS TO OFFER
DOING THIS DUMBASS "COLLECT MY 666 SCRIMBLIES" SHIT IS ANNOYING

>>712942164
>punishing someone for exploring your open world game
Bravo

>game has a set of hidden collectables
>exactly one of them is missable
>it's also the hardest one to find

Grand Strategy supremacy games by Bytro Labs and their system of persistent resources on account that carry out through games you play. As a new player you can get resources and free units and then use those three month later to pull a game win out of your ass. You can also blatantly and unashamedly pay2win (in a game where sessions may last for 20 IRL days). Those games are a massive clusterfuck of bad ideas, like artillery you need to micro manage in real time (sometimes for 6 hours or more), night attacks when you sleep, utterly horrible matchmaking, etc.

>>712942803
Remember when you would look up on YouTube where the collectables are at and the uploader would jump all around the map instead of finding them in order?

>>712880574 (OP)
I don't remember what action game it was, but it played a long fucking cutscene before every boss fight, and on every subsequent retry for that boss fight.
Completely inexcusable game design.

>>712942164
Take the nintendong out of your ass, anon, I don't do it with every game, but if the gameplay is fun and the world is inviting I like to complete the experience.

>>712943241
kingdom hearts 1?

>>712943114
or you look it up on the wiki and there's a screenshot but it's so zoomed in it's impossible to use any context clues to tell what's happening

>>712926225
>persona 3 fight system
for me it was randomized movesets from fusing personas so you have to sit there and mash them together until you get what you want

>>712880574 (OP)
Street Fighter 6 throw loops i like doing them to other people though

>>712880617
That's not an answer to the question he asked you mindbroken retard.

>>712943509
i'm pretty sure there's a calculator that can tell you which one is it but i cant imagine rawdogging that game on launch without wiki

>>712910935
Checkpoints in front of bosses has been effectively mandated as they load more and more of the difficulty onto the bosses themselves.
Which is related to diluting the areas.

>Final Fantasy games
>A metric fuckton of enemies are weak to Wind, Water, and Earth.
>Most games in the series give you JACK FUCKING SHIT for dealing those types of damage, unlike the abundance of easily accessible sources for the fire, blizzard, thunder trinity.
Like the only ways to deal Water damage in FF5 are Gaia (RNG and location dependent), Leviathan (extremely lategame summon), and Water Scrolls (gil sink consumable). And FF9 has a grand total of 2 Earth attacks.

Still blows my mind 24 years later that FF10 actually had a proper series of Water spells.

>>712943593
>juriposter
Yeah we know you like dick

>>712899535
damn atleast he music is cool to keep you going again

>>712942268
if you've collected one seed you've collected them all. i doubt they were even intended to be 100 percented

>>712880617
Playing it on seemless coop is fun as fuck
Sorry you don’t have a social life

>>712887262
>just figure it out that this item has a 10% chance of turning half red heart drops into full red heart drops, but only if it’s Saturday
Everyone uses the description mod for a reason.

>Game has an element-themed boss who predictably uses mostly that element.
>Equip gear and abilities that resist that element beforehand.
>For daring to build your party for that boss the game throws its entire battle script out the window and has it relentlessly spam the game's UNRESIST FUCK YOU 99999999 DAMAGE GIGA NUKE spell.

contra III robbing you of a proper ending sequence and basically telling you to git gud when you beat the game on normal.
I played the game off and on for years, it was like a daily ritual to put a quick run of contra in after I had gotten my homework done. one weekend after having finally got to the end game boss rush I was keyed in, I spent all weekend replaying the game to learn the final boss and finally I managed to clear it. no save states. the literal years of my life I spent playing that game off and on from childhood and my reward is a splash screen telling me to play it again on hard if I want the true experience. no credits, no slideshow, no catharsis.
When i try out hard mode bullets move at fuck off speed and the game feels spammy and cheap. sure hard should have a bonus but contra 3 on normal, beaen legit is too fucking hard and time consuming to tell players to just fuck off.

>>712880821
Difficulty modes that have to be unlocked are a pretty good pick for this.

>RPG with elemental damage system
>weaknesses don’t correlate with the appearance or theme of enemies at all and may as well be completely random

the uh thing where the character in your party leaves taking all your shit.

>game has parts where you have to play as one of your party members solo
>if you benched them earlier and didn’t level them or give them gear your playthrough is bricked

>you can redeem the villain bitch
>it requires such a highly specific series of dialogue and choices (many of which require you to simp unreasonably hard for her) that essentially no one will get it without a guide

>RPG with elemental damage system
>figuring out enemy weaknesses is a crapshoot and bosses don't have weaknesses anyway so it's more efficient to just go all in on full power neutral hits towards anything that isn't completely immune

>zodiac spear
>bosses that can take hours

>>712943286
I've been thinking about it and it could have been Persona 4. I remember it being on PS2, most definitely.

>>712880574 (OP)
can't make the cute boys wear the cute dresses
see: every game with cute boys you can't force to wear dresses.

also where's the fucking games where you put the dresses on them and they hate it, act embarrassed, blush. I want to force cute boys to run through town in dresses.

also no homo

fucking uplay like services, stopped trying to play ubislack shit
games getting higher in prices: fuck you todd

>>712946670
on a serious note, when you can't separate audio. like, background music from speech and background noise. fuck that shit.

>>712880574 (OP)
British accents.

>>712946950
this

>>712880574 (OP)
The lobby music from Xenoverse 2 that you can't turn off. And Bulma yelling into my fucking ear shilling her gacha game.

>>712946950
>oi guv you got a loicense for that sword?

>>712880574 (OP)
Muttmerican ebonics.
Bonus points if its in a European fantasy setting.

>>712946087
lol
lmao

>>712885616
>dark souls 1 was the exception

sort of. DS1 dlc was linear and had fast travel at every bonfire

>>712885593
>this fucking Slavic rat thought that having to manually charge your phone was part of the "gameplay experience."
Russians are obsessed with "muh immershun" time-wasting shit like minutes-long item animations for everything, weapons that break after three reloads, etc. See: the miseryshit mods in Stalker, that were eventually taken to an utter extreme with Tarkov and GAMMA (single-player Tarkov for shitters).

>>712880617
elden ring base game was pretty good except malenia and the snowfield area
shadow of erdtree was pretty unfun. too aimless

>>712945889
Had that happen in Mother 3 with the monkey

metro's good endings. i did my best, i'm not doing all that. i'm still getting 20 lap dances

>>712950801
The only time it was hard to get was the original 2033 where the bad ending was the canon one. After that all you need to do is explore the levels and not be bad at stealth and you'd have to be fucking retarded to get the bad endings for 2034 or Exodus.

>>712945736
Monster Hunter. Sometimes it's just a crapshoot

>>712927171
lol

>>712943937
>lol look at you criticizing [game], [game with mods] is great

>>712882541
Kino

>>712911984
Durability with a recharge or only fixable at camp is the way to do it, if at all. Encourages you to diversify and use strategy but doesn't leave you with tons of stuff "too good to use". Dark Douls had it in the right direction, your stuff has to last to the next checkpoint, but you can fix it easily.
If your stuff permanently breaks after a few minutes of use, it's not a weapon, it's a consumable.

>>712945889
>violent romance rite >>712946670
with laezel
>she starts hurling thousands of gold in grenades and scrolls at me
Fucking stupid

>>712902818
>I'll never understand the notion that you need everything to be guaranteed to be a 'real' tactics game when the very nature of tactics is messy and uncertain where you can only hedge the odds as much in your favor as possible.
Bullets need to be guaranteed to actually come out of your gun barrel and then they need to hit something. If your tactics game is really a board game, then it's shit.

>>712953991
how would you translate that to a game?