I don't know why but I feel like doing this is ilegal

>terms of use to which you agreed: you will NOT do X, Y and Z with our device
>do X, Y and Z and get punished for it
>AIEEE THAT'S ILLEGAL, MONEY STATUS = STOLEN

just buy a deck
why buy a portable you can't mod??

>>712990104
But I can't play le newest mario slop on it o algo

>>712990062
>3000 pages of contract written in legalese on a console aimed at kids
>hurr durr the contract clearly said your kidneys are property of nintendo!
What a cuck. You're literally a cuck, no other terminology fits better.

>>712990062

>>712990062
With how many securities Switch 2 has, and with the number of consoles sold (and will sell), you will hear about a lot of false positives, when it bricks itself even though you didn't do X, Y nor Z.

migswitch status?

>>712990208
ctrl+f3 dweeb

>>712989987 (OP)
GET FUCKED PIRATETARD LMAO

>>712990062
term of use are bullshit. RIGHT TO REPAIR.

>>712990062
If your Switch is charging and you have a power surge/outage, that's an instant brick.
They really did not think this through.

>>712990320
>when it bricks itself even though you didn't do X, Y nor Z.
just like piratefags that say their games were actually dumped from the physical copies that they own lmao

>>712989987 (OP)
looks like a tranny from that small profile image desu

>tfw your brother logs into your switch 2 and says nigger 238 times

>>712990772
retard

>>712990709
>RIGHT TO REPAIR
isn't a right and doesn't exist no matter how much you bitch and moan
don't like it, don't buy the switch 2

>>712990870
>don't like it, don't buy the switch 2
don't worry I won't
you may now proceed with your melty

Why the fuck are people wanting to play online with their pirate console? Just get a second switch to play online. It's way too fucking hard to deal with every single pirated game automatically trying to go online and then banning the console, and getting some emuid and trying to remember if you are in the emuid or not, and you have to buy the games you play online anyways, and you are linking your nintendo account to a hacked console and hoping you never make a mistake with it.

I don't give a single rat's ass if I'm banned from online. As long as they don't "brick" the console.

>>712990301
>Log in
>Say "Gurney, gurney, gurney, gurney!"
>Banned
What's with the discrimination against medical professionals?

>>712989987 (OP)
>return it for a full refund on grounds of the console not working
Nothing personnel.

I don't get it, hacking handheld consoles is pointless in the age of portable PCs and chinkhelds

yuzu 2 when?

>ITT

Wait, hold up. Is the switch2 hacked already??

>>712991252
no, try again in 7 years.

>>712989987 (OP)
Why are so many people applauding less homebrew options and freedom with their $500 devices? Isn’t modding a good option to have for us as the consumer? It’s not all about piracy. Modding allows customization, theming, and other cool things you can’t normally do. Isn’t that good? Why would anyone be against that? I struggle to believe many people really unironically actually want their devices to be locked down hard from any form of customization. Is it all just contrarian shitposting or do people actually want less device freedom?

Why would anyone want to hack or mod their Switch 2 in the first place? What are you even going to do with it? Play old Nintendo games on it? You can do that for literally $50 a year (not month). If you don't even play Gamecube or N64 games, that goes down to $20 a year. Are people really this poor that they can't afford even that and resort to hacking/modding their Switch 2? Other than using it to get games for free that you'd otherwise have to pay for, what reason is there to even do this?

>>712991252
People are transferring hacked accounts from Switch 1 and 2 and then going online

>>712991346
Then what is the screenshot in OP?

How did pirates all get so retarded?

>>712990062
nintendo fans are the most buck broken consoomers on the planet it's wild. you are looking at a company that is currently trying to bleed another developer to death for making pokemon with guns. the company which sued some hacker into indentured servitude. the company that killed off ROM sites as best they could resell them in the worst format possible
>Nintendo would never treat ME like shit :^)
>gets treated like shit
>woooooow

The Switch literally works fine you just can't go online... You've literally never been able to go online with hacked consoles, what kind of desperate console war fuckery is this thread

>Standard industry practice
>Lose your fucking mind when Nintendo does it
Why is it so common?

>>712991362
>You can do that for literally $50 a year (not month).
So true sisters.
For just 50 dollarinos a year you get tons of FREE games. Whats the matter? Whats another subscription service added to the list.

>>712990772
They should put a battery in it

>>712991414
some retard that tried to insert the Switch mig on Switch 2 and got the console banned for it.

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CAN'T PIRATE HELP ME VALVE
Fuck off.

>>712991636
doesn't that card emulate a real gamecard?
theoretically if you dumped it yourself they cant even detect it.
so what i am asking is....d-did it work? that would be cool.

>>712991636
I wonder if this would work in switch 2

Wait wait, do I need internet access to play a fucking handheld, or how does this work?

>>712991526
because it's okay when Sony does it. specially when in 3rd world countries like Brazil, you can just sue Sony and their justice will force Sony to unban you or pay a new system for the user.

>>712990320
It's literally a scam your electricity company does it too.

>>712991845
Why should anyone care about a thirdworld shit hole?

The switch 2 flopped.

Normie people hate it.
Collectors hate it.
Gamers hate it.
Youtubers hate it.
Reviewers are on the fence and mixed reactions even from paid shills.

Its been a colossal failure and any other excuse is cope.

>>712991934
3rd world shitholes are the only places that Sony's winning so they still do lol

>>712991980
How much did it sell again?

>>712989987 (OP)
it feels so good when someone tries to steal from nintendo gets 500 dollar stolen from them lol

>>712991980
oh the melty lmao

>>712990320
TWO MORE WEEKS

>>712989987 (OP)
Nintendo telling these faggots thanks for the money but you're not welcome on this service is incredibly based

But it does mean that you can't buy this thing used for the forseeable future.

>>712991845
It's eternally amazing to me that post-purchase contracts can have any legal weight.

>Nintendo online TOS: hey please don't pirate or hack games, using rom loaders is forbidden for this reason thanks
>use rom loader
>get banned from online
>"WOOOOOOOOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW"

>>712992276
funny that i have seen comments like this for 20 years now.
corporate anal cleaners like anon exist throughout. kinda comforting to know some stuff doesn't change over the years.

>>712992227
isn't that illegal because you're selling a product and not a service?

>i should be able to steal without consequences
Third worlder mindset.

>>712992502
OP is about losing access to the online SERVICE, it can still play games in offline

>>712992420
If you want to pirate or hack your games just do it offline. I don't want to deal with hackers when I'm playing online thanks

>>712992420
>NOOOOO CORPORATIONS ARE OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE ONLINE FUNCTIONALITY TO RULE BREAKERS BECAUSE...BECAUSE... BECAUSE THEY JUST ARE OK
lmao get fucked poorfag

>>712992721
oh ok I see

>>712989987 (OP)
It was common knowledge from day one that they would brick your shit if you attempted this shit.

Why are people this fucking stupid?

I think the dude who tried the mig went online. They never learn.

>>712990062
>Buy hammer
>Terms of use: You're not allowed to hammer round head nails
>Hammer round head nail anyway
>BANG BANG BANG McPolice comes in and steals your equipment
>4chan: Dumb retard, should've read the TOS, based company

>>712990301
happened to me. I got banned from all EA games for cheating in a game I don't own and have never played and when I actually reached out to customer service they said "we have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing." defending these multitrillion dollar corpos who would put babies through a woodchipper if it thought it would net them a dime is fucking gay and pure contrarian behavior.

god i hope someone hacks nintendo and sends out a global brick signal

>>712992757
The funniest thing is people bitching about something every console does.
If Sony or MS detects you have molded files your console gets online banned too. If your steam profile gets flagged for cheating your entire library is locked out of multiplayer

>>712991980
I'm not buying one but I'm pretty sure it had a healthy launch. Just doesn't have any fucking games

>>712990301
fucking kek

>>712992420
I think the guy with the machine gun shooting at us is bad. I also think if you step out of the trench directly into the machine gun as if nothing would happen and then get shot then it's your own damn fault. What do you expect to happen?

>>712990062
>Buy good at store, pay with $$$
>Producer: No good is not really yours, you can only do what we say you can with it
>And we can change idea whenever

And people is HAPPY with this shit.

OP here'm, didn't know it was for playing online. yeah you're right, it is a service (online) so they have the right to settle the arrangment to play online and if you don't follow the rules you get banned.
tldr: nintendos right

>>712989987 (OP)
Is it just preventing online access or does it prevent you from using the console offline?

>>712992993
More like
>buy gun
>TOS: do not flag people, ND, fire warning shots, or murder
>do these
>"WTF WHY AM I BEING SENT TO JAIL"

>>712991040
The console works, dumbass

>buy a switch 2
>no games
>put third party software on your switch 2
>still no games, but also no online services

>>712991980
>Normie people hate it.
>Collectors hate it.
>Gamers hate it.
>Youtubers hate it.
>Reviewers are on the fence and mixed reactions even from paid shills.

and yet, it's selling like hell and will keep selling for years and years and years.
Yeah i know it's stupid, but it's like that.

>>712990943
They're banning any console you put your account on.
If you had a banned Switch 1, they're going to ban your Switch 2 even if you didn't do anything on Switch 2.
Apparently this even happens if you sell your switch 1 and someone else hacks it after the fact because that switch is still associated with your account even if you removed it.

>>712991748
Nintendo can detect it.
>>712991793
Are you living under a rock? It works but gets your console banned

>>712993550
I don't believe you on the latter part but you're a fucking retard if you don't do a firmware reset before selling your switch

>>712992721
What games? 90% of the console's library will be keycards you have to download online.

>>712989987 (OP)
Because on a good platform (like PC) your hardware can be modified freely and your connection to the internet is regulated and assured, not gated through 1 gaming company that hates its users.

>>712991980
already seething over tomorrow's famitsu thread?

>>712993735
There's one guy that says it happened to him. Could be bullshit, but I wouldn't put it past Nintendo.

>>712993520
Apple and Nintendo are complete opposites. Nintendo wants to sell their consoles at cheaply as possible, Apple cares about the most expensive tech and making their products as expensive as possible because they're status symbols.

>>712990709
>repair = steal

>>712989987 (OP)
this isn't from the banwave this is just a retard who used his banned switch 1 acc on his now switch 2

>>712991748
nintendo found some way to identify even personal dumps. the console logs everything and reports back on next conection to the servers. guaranteed ban

>>712993380
that's not related to TOS, that's the law you fucking retard
>hurr laws are basically a TOS
the gun manufacturer are not the ones enforcing it

>get banned
>cant connect
>your purchased key cards are now worthless

how is this legal?

>>712990709
Does it actually ban you if you try to repair or modify it?

>>712989987 (OP)
Just get a Steam Deck.

>>712989987 (OP)
Blame Anericans and the Japaneses for being this cucked to corporations.

>>712990961
kek

>>712994271
Nintendo's pushing games at $80 and famously never discounts them properly tho. And they sell hardware so unbelievably terrible that they turn a profit on hardware unlike all the other consoles.

>>712989987 (OP)
>>712990062
Companies should be able to restrict your service according to TOS but when they do they should always have to give you a 100% refund.

>>712990320
>you will hear about a lot of false positives
Are the false positives in the room with us right now?

>>712994271
>Apple and Nintendo are complete opposites
yet, they are surprisingly the same.

>>712989987 (OP)
even in my 3rd world country this nintendo gimmick is not legally allowed
usa is a joke

>>712990062
>>terms of use to which you agreed: you will NOT do X, Y and Z with our device
But it becomes MY device when I buy it, so it's invalidated.

>buy shitty cd keys from some shady website
>get banned
>NOOOOOOOO I DINDUN NUFFIN

>>712990208
>Most people don't go to law school
>Most people have to sign dozens of contracts with no lawyer consultation each year.
There should be a law that says companies must hire a legal interpreter for you if they expect you to sign a contract. At their expense.

>>712991845
>>712991934
this is communism and it's why these shitholes are shitholes. if a company can't innovate, they leave.

>>712989987 (OP)
All hackers should be sent to El Salvador

i've said it once and i'll say it again

the nintendo switch 2 is for upper middle class to upper class people, if you are poor, if you are trying to scrabble around stealing games, you aren't wanted on this platform - if you want to make amends for your attempted theft, go out and spend another 500 dollars (or more from a scalper) and learn that hard work in software development deserves to be paid for, this isn't a charity, and if you don't like it you can get lost

poor people don't deserve entertainment, get in an uber and drive me around, peasant, i'll be in the back playing games i earned the money to pay for

Proprietary e-waste.

>>712996975
you say this but why would someone who can build a 5k+ gaming PC ever realistically bother with nintendo products?

>>712990062
>buy refrigerator
>terms of use to which you agreed: you will NOT store alcoholic beverages in our refrigerator
>store beer in it
>fridge is remotely bricked by the company

>buy lawnmower
>terms of use to which you agreed: you will NOT cut grass taller than 5 inches with our lawnmower
>cut 6 inch grass
>lawnmower is remotely bricked by the company

>buy a computer monitor
>terms of use to which you agreed: you will NOT watch pornography on our monitor
>watch a tv show with a brief sex scene in it
>monitor is remotely bricked by the company

>>712990062

>>712996665
Or, simply write contracts that can be easily read and understood by the end user. Can't do that? your problem, you're the multibillion dollar company.

>>712997105
to play nintendo exclusive games, of course

>>712990208
idiot

>>712996975
You went a step too far into baiting when you said poor people don't deserve entertainment, but just about everything else you said is true.

Entertainment is fucking rampantly available for free or dirt cheap. A young person today can spend their whole life on youtube/social media, not to mention decades upon decades of free/dirt cheap movies and video games. You don't need to buy the newest shit anymore just because your friends bought it. Anyone whining about switch 2 price, just don't fucking buy it, download a fucking emulator.

>>712989987 (OP)
Hasn't banning console hardware when they detect hacking been the default action used on every fucking platform?
I hate Nintendo as much as the next guy, but I don't see how this is different than what console cucks had up until this point.

>>712991356
I am inherently and vehemently against anything that wasn't intended by the creator of a thing. If you go to a restaurant and put additional pepper or sauces on your food you are just as much of a retard as someone who mods their switch for a "custom theme". There is only one correct way to enjoy a thing, and that is the way it was intended, and it is your sole duty in life to make yourself correct at all times.

you couldve just played the entire library on one of the other steam os or windows portables with way better hardware. people who buy switch 2 are the same as tards who buy ipads

>>712997105
Because PC has no games

>>712997297
I do that on PC though

>>712996165
PlayStation said they are turning profit on PS5 hardware

>You WILL NOT MOD
>Okay, *proceeds to mod*
>NOOOOO, WTF!? I'VE BEEN ROBBED!!!
It's really funny when pirates whine about being robbed. Hypocrisy much?

>connecting online with pirated software

this is literally the first rule of doing console mods violated

The scene went retarded during the 3DS and Switch era, I swear

>>712997426
>he doesn't know

>>712989987 (OP)
>Tendies will defend this

This tranny used cheats to win at fucking splatoon btw deserved

>>712997507
twitter user is a zoomer, so it's not unexpected coming from them kek
learning the hard way

>>712997334
>download a fucking emulator.
NINTENDO ARREST THIS MAN!

>>712991515
>You've literally never been able to go online with hacked consoles
Not true. Nintendo couldn't detect hacked system or pirated games on the 3DS so you could actually just go online with pirated games with little risk. That little risk was also mitigated by just not going online with a pirated game before the official release. You could also still use online services for a hacked Switch 1 if you have an emunand set up, you just couldn't go online with hacked games like the 3DS.

>>712991425
Pirating Nintendo stuff got so easy in the last two gens, and most pirates learned how to do it from shitty spoonfeeding YouTube tutorials. The scene doesn't have any sense of self-preservation of discreetness anymore which is why Yuzu was able to get fucked balls deep

>>712991980
I'll wait for the better, cheaper revision a la 3DS

>>712990062
You sound like a fucking retard! You do know that you payed for the console right? Its yours so you can do anything you wan. Its the same with Ferarri You buy the car but cant do wierd shit with it or els they sue you but its your car and you bought it wtf go suck a cock you dumbass

>>712997193
Completely different situation but it's been explained hundreds of times already. Just keep posting this dumb meme and making yourself look stupid.

BASED NINTENDO

>>712993380
More like
>buy gun
>gun TOS says "Do not use cartridges that have been reloaded"
>decide "fuck that I can reload for half the cost of new ammunition"
>gun detects non-factory ammo and, despite being perfectly capable of firing the round, locks up and becomes completely unusable

we need to bring back gatekeeping

Nintendo is putting magic back in gaming that brownoids with emulators have been trying to destroy <3

>>712989987 (OP)
What are you going to do about it, little bitch?

>>712996324
Nintendo's marketing is all about gameplay and just making the games as good as possible. How is that comparable to Apple's marketing? Have you even seen their trailers?

>>712996165
Still cheaper than what all of their competitors are doing

>unlike all the other consoles.
Literally both of their competitors raised prices multiple times, Nintendo didn't. Either for Switch 1 or 2. You're retarded.

>>712990930

>>712997307
i accept your defeat, cuckold

>>712997853
>go to supermarket
>sign says no thiefing
>thief anyway
>get thrown out
>get arrested
>WTF, I'm a customer!!!

>>712997105
cus emulation is a pain in the ass and so is the upkeep on a PC. Unless you're a labo fan you dont gotta worry about compatibility issues with the switch 2. You cant say the same for Windows 11
>Muh Linux
Linux gaming is a fucking meme. Perhaps one day it'll be worth a damn but right now no.

>>712989987 (OP)
Nothing personnel, tendie
https://files.catbox.moe/7mmhvi.mp4

>>712998469
>a customer
>who tried to steal
???

>>712998524
That's the law, not a terms of service agreement. Continue exposing yourself as a complete halfwit.

>>712993368
Despite that EULA people keep dooming over, they don't actually brick systems, they just ban you from online services. A lot of fucking games on Switch 2 are Game Key cards only now though, so getting banned is waaaaay worse than it was on Switch 1.

>>712997853
Just don't buy it. It's not hard.

>>712997121
dont buy the products if you dont agree with the terms. Its extremely simple. If you dont agree with the terms complain about it on social media but theres no sympathy from me if you buy it first.

>>712991410
no retard. They're using the migswitch flashcart thing and its getitng detected and banning them.

>>712998690
Big brains on this guy.

>>712998646
>wtf, it was just a sign, not the law
>that's not legal that you ban me from your store
try that in Afghanistan, and you get your fingers chopped off, you fucking dirty thief

>>712997490
>Can mod my car
>Can mod my house
>Can mod my PC
>Cannot mod my console
the more you defend it the more stupid you sound

>>712998739
>Can steal
sure, but it's still illegal.

>>712998738
>try that in Afghanistan
Anon we're not in a savage thirdie country and the fact that you have to pull that card tells me you've already lost in your own mind

>>712997490
Using a flashcart is considered "modding"?

>>712990062
FPBP
just follow the law

>>712998720
You realize most of those terms aren't openly advertised in way that's clear and concise, and instead are buried in a 300 page documents filled with all sorts of legal mumbo jumbo, right?
Stop defending massive corporations that actively fuck their customers over.

>>712996975
This has always been my mentality. When I buy a game I want to play it. I dont wanna have to make sure my drivers are up to date or windows setting need to be ajusted or figure out why the skybox is glitching to spend the next hour reading steam threads, jeet youtube tutorials or reddit posts trying to find a fix for it.

>>712998818
Afghanistan has more control over whores than in your shit hole
cope

>>712998796
There zero reason to use a migswitch to pirate when getting your console modchipped is like half the cost and you can install literally anything you want instead of being limited to just the base game.

>>712990062
pro-tip: if you propose a contract that goes against the law, the other party can sign it and ignore the illegal bits
you can't waive away your rights unless the law explicitely says so, tos don't overpower national laws

>>712998796
i hope someone plugs a mig cartridge into your console when you're not home to see you defend this stupid garbage, it's not a subsciption when it's tied to games you own

>>712998738
...Because the law isn't the same in every country. Jesus Christ you're stupid.

>>712998838
ToS has nothing to do with laws.

>>712998821
stealing, not "modding"
you aren't preserving anything, you are just stealing

but go on, try to sue Nintendo over that. Give them your address and what was on your totally legit flash shit cart

>>712998865
it's simple.
don't cheat and don't steal.
there, no problems when you do that.

>>712991845
>hue in favela has better consumer rights than most westerners
Grim.

Why is /v/ so fucking gay when it comes to piracy?

>>712998958
>nooooooo, a thief broke into my home and inserted a thief device into my Shitch, Nintendo!!!
>I'm innocent!!!

>>712999041
just fanboys defending their favorite billion dollar corporations

>>712999041
we are pro-gaming
thieves are anti-gaming
it's that simple.

>>712991425
everything is getting retarded because the ethnic and generational makeup of the population is shifting

>>712999041
/v/ is the most tech illiterate board

>>712999041
This behavior has been fostered by two decades of the encouragement of console war bullshit all in an effort to recapture the nostalgia people had for Sega vs Nintendo lunch arguments.

>>712998865
>buried in a 300 page
I found it within 1 minute in an extremely short document available on their website.

>>712998796
See? Proved my point, you're an idiot.

>>712999269
DELETE
>I was just inserting this thief device
>WHAT'S THE PROBLEM, IT'S TOTALLY LEGIT DOWNLOADED COPIES

>here's your console, if you modify it you won't be able to use our online services
>>mods it
>you are no longer allowed to use our online services
This isn't new, it's been around since console online started back in the 360/PS3 days. Sorry to say it's too late to start crying now

>>712999041
It’s mostly just the hardcore nintendo shills that play mario/zelda games. Pc gamers and even the Xenoblade anons talk about piracy/emulation all the time

>>712999308
Hey, if you weren't a faggot, you would have stolen your PC as well, but you are too chicken doggo shit turd to do that.
Chicken, fucking chicken

>>712999041
puritan zoomers that don't know how to make a new folder on their desktop infect this place now.

The issue right now is that even if you fully own the games you dump nintendo just bans you. This wasn’t the case on the switch 1.

>>712998865
>300 page documents
its not. I think this is just a rightoid thing. Like they cant read anything longer than a paragraph. Hence why ill keep this post short as not to scare you.

>>712999269
Nice of you to not highlight the absolute travesty that is the first part of that paragraph.

>>712999041
I don't mind piracy and I pirate games myself but I've always been annoyed at retards that pirate and then get mad that they got punished when they got caught. The lack of self awareness is insane, this whole modern saying of "Piracy is morally correct" has genuinely turned people into idiots. I'm not going to play games for free and act like I'm in the right. I know I'm doing something wrong and I'm going to do it anyway instead doing mental gymnastics to justify it.

>>712999593
>HOW DARE THEY
>fully own the game allows me to make copies
nope
>THEY CAN JUST BAN ME
Plot twist: MgShit was a sting operation

THEFT IS THEFT AND THEFT IS IMMORAL PI-RAT NIGGER SCUM.

>>712999041
because it gets (you) riled up and uppity

>>712996279
Yes yourself.

Imagine buying a car and the manufacturer bricks it remotely forever because you put straight pipes on it. Gamers are the biggest cucks in the world.

>>712999732
I dont own a Nintendo Switch 2 because im not a fucking retard. If you dont like the EULA then dont buy it. If noone buys it then maybe they dont make a shitty EULA next time.

>>712999041
pirates make gaming worse for everyone, just look at the state of PC gaming now, most major releases have to release with Denuvo which tanks the performance of the game, who is to blame for this? should software companies just roll over and let it happen? or should people stealing shit be held accountable for forcing an arms race in anti piracy measures that has now made everyones games run worse?

theres nothing wrong with pirating abandonware and old shit where nothing would be going to the developers or publishers, but you idiots acted smug about stealing brand new games and getting to play them before anyone else, now you're crying because you need more than two braincells to continue stealing, i have no sympathy for pirates, fuck you all

>>712998957
Go ahead and sue Nintendo for the right to use your switch. I'm sure it will be cheap and worth it.

>>712999774
In the EU you’re allowed to back up games you own.

>>712999910
exactly
fuck PCiggers
they try to ruin everything, after they ruined PCs.

>>712998739
>>Can mod my car
>>Can mod my house
Yeah, I wanna see you do this with a house and car you're still paying off. Guaranteed you're not going to like the results.

>>712999910
>who is to blame for this?
Publishers who believe that if pirates can't pirate, then they'll HAVE to buy the game. Even though everyone knows they would never have bought it anyway.

>>712999910
Aren’t there studies that show that people who pirate aren’t even going to buy the games in the first place? It also mentions that pirates tend to buy the game afterwards if they think it’s worth it. Publishers are just cucking themselves and punishing the gamers

>>712999910
>have to release with denuvo
They don't have to at all, non-denuvo games still sell like hotcakes (see Elden Ring), and denuvo games still flop.
Denuvo does nothing but appeal to confirmation biases.

>>712999982
>break copy protection
nope, you aren't.

act like a nigger get treated like a nigger
just stop stealing shit nigger

>>713000036
I don't have a mortgage on my game console though, it's paid off. And you can bet I can mod my car that I own and my house that I own.

>>712999041
You think you're talking to anons, but it's just shills and bots trying to change the narrative.
Piracy is good.

>>712989987 (OP)
>the use of online services
Absolute nothingburger
The way some of you retarded zoomers are posting you'd think they remotely detonated the hardware

>>713000112
what's funny is that they could have stolen the Shitch 2, but they paid for it, lol, and thought they could keep stealing games.

>>712999742
But assuming some of the people getting banned are being truthful and using they're own copied games, what real legal ground does the company have here?
I honestly don't doubt that people would make back ups of they're own stuff especially for the convenience since I use to have duplicate games on my flash carts during the DS era

>>713000147
>they remotely detonated the hardware
"yes, 911, my Shitch 3 just blew away my benis after I inserted flash cart into it, wtf"

that would take care of the thief problem.
it would be the thief solution.

>>712998739
>>Can mod my car
>>Can mod my house
Yes, but only if you don't have Car insurance or bought the deed also to the land your house is on, otherwise you're a liability and will get in trouble

>>713000147
Some nintendo games would require you to update your switch’s software. Game key cards also need to download some things online. You basically can only play a handful of games going forward unless someone hacks the switch 2

>>713000198
>what real legal ground does the company have here?
The console is still functional, you just can't use Nintendo Online, right?
Pirates need to make their own Nintendo online then.

>>713000198
>thieves are truthful
>their own copied games
lmao
"yeah, I could insert my cart directly, but instead I pay hundreds of dollars for a flash cart, and for a ripping device to rip my own games and put them onto the expensive flash cart for nothing in return.

come on
btw. that's also not legal already

>>712999910
>muh denuvo
meanwhile before its existence Valve's storefront becomes a powerhouse, and games today are still highly successful without needing Denuvo

>>713000269
WTF
It's my car, I can do whatever I want with it, like driving it into people or putting a bomb inside it and driving it into a military base.

>>712989987 (OP)
>ITT: armchair libertarians that don't understand contract law

Don't buy the Switch 2. It's kinda shit to begin with. But if you're going to buy it anyway, understand that it is a closed system, Nintendo takes its IP very seriously, and there are ramifications for treating it like a Steamdeck or any myriad Android-based handheld device.

>>712998957
Except nothing in Nintendo's EULA is illegal. EULAs are not legally binding, but if you violate them and they are written in a way that is not "misleading" according to the courts, it's virtually impossible to sue (Nintendo in this case) because you voluntarily purchased their product, knowingly violated the TOS, and received a consequence accordingly.

Besides, you can still use the console. They don't let you connect online, which they have the right to do since you've modified the console/cart. You don't have a right to online services.

>>712990208
>irrelevant hyperbolic analogy

>>712996665
>>712997284
And these are both just really pathetic.

You are not even remotely entitled to have an "interpreter" if you're unwilling or unable to read the EULA you are implicitly agreeing to when making a purchase. If you can't or won't read it, it is YOUR problem, not Nintendo's, in this case.

And just to be very clear: I do not think that the Switch 2 is a good purchase, period. But I despise this trend of retards acting like retards and chimping out when their retarded actions result in predictable consequences, only for you guys to clap like seals and mistakenly believe some great injustice took place.

Do not purchase the Switch 2 if you want to mod it. It's not difficult.

>but le Mario!

If you want to play Mario on official hardware without jeopardizing your ability to play Mario on official hardware, don't attempt hardware or software modifications on said device.

>>713000326
no updates
bye bye cucksole

>>713000365
Some people don’t want to travel with their entire physical copy of games on-hand you know. Having the migswitch lets you keep your entire library on the go

>>713000383
>and games today are still highly successful
>yeah, you can just release your AAA game and it will sell double as many copies as on Playstation
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/y9xk2m/uncharted_legacy_of_thieves_collection_has_lowest/
>ohhhhh

>>713000587
>I need all my totally physical games with me
no, you don't
>migshitch
good, I bet you got a receipt for the extra ripping device, you fucking lying thief

>>713000036
ffs.
Aren't there millions of passionate mechanics and carpenters in the world who build and modify their own things?

>>712999269
>grants you a non-exclusive, revocable LICENSE
>the software is licensed, NOT SOLD, to you

>>713000665
>got a receipt
wtf, why would you imply that I lie?
I'm not a thief, I'm not stealing anything.
I got a receipt right here
https://youtu.be/vyE3bnxVHKg?t=17

>>712998721
No, this tranny got their agcount banned for cheating in splatoon and transferring the account kept the ban, it's a ban account, as stated on the error message. The mig switch always banned you, even on switch 1, that's why everyone used an emumcc and never touched an online game

>>713000453
Again, these are laws. Not terms of service. I can't bash someone's head in with a Switch 2 either despite it not being said in the ToS.

>>712999038
Only the US has garbage consumer rights my guy. We're golden in the EU.

>>712989987 (OP)
It raises the question of who owns the thing you buy?
And if they only sell you a license at to use the hardware you buy at the store should they also require you to sign a written license agreement before you take the product home?
Without a written agreement signed by the end-user you cannot make a point like this guy >>712990062 after all the customer does not have to agree to any condition set by Nintendo between the time of purchase and the opportunity to remote brick his console at home

>>713000802
wtf, why can't I bash someone with my Shitch over the head?
it's my property!
fuck you, fucking corporate defender
I will do whatever I want with my Shitch

Still waiting for tendies to be banished to their own board
Fucking cultist niggers

>>712989987 (OP)
its time to put the mario slop down tendies.

>>713000383
this doesn't mean anything when you're on the other side of the gun, from the developers perspective if they can use denuvo and potentially get more sales they will include it, its a simple equation

include denuvo = nobody can steal your game
don't include it = you lose sales because of piracy

with the cost of development skyrocketing more and more every year they aren't thinking about taking the gamble

>>713000147
>Absolute nothingburger
>detonated the hardware
This, until they don't start talking about some kind of "custom firmware" this is just "nothingburger"

>>712990062
>get away from the multi-trillion dollar corporation you little slut

>>713000810
mutts have been indoctrinated by corporations to think consumer rights are socialism

>>713000665
>2 week trip
>Ok i have the sudden urge to play X while in the hotel
>Left X at home because you thought you won’t need it

>>712999269
>available on their website.
not legally binding

>>713000810
Didn't belgium and the netherlands ban lootboxes sounds pretty heavy handed and I hate lootboxes.

>>713000973
>I got urges to fuck this child
>I just have to .... give in.... the urge to bing bing wahoo the child
wtf is wrong with you
>I take 100 SD cards with me
no, you don't.

>>712991425
It got easy and people talking up how great emulation is brought not only in retards/jeets, but also the proverbial Eye is Sauron from Nintendo.

Priacy/emulation are things you shouldn't talk openly about, as to preserve them.

>>712999041
We used to be pretty cool about it but then someone made a wojak acting like a retard in Disneyland and it completely buckbroke /v/

>>713000917
>include denuvo = nobody can steal your game
it's added investment for people to steal your game, actually.

>>713000884
Yell at your government then, Idgaf. Still nothing to do with terms of service.

>>713001148
it's about ownership
I own my shitch, I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT WITH IT, including murdering children.
Anything else is fucking fascism
FUCK NINTENDO, FUCK BIDEN.

>>713000874
I do agree that if companies want these end user license agreements to be enforceable you should be made aware of them and have to agree to them at the point of purchase. I've never tried to return a physical game on the grounds that I do not agree to its EULA, but I have to imagine I'd face as much resistance as if I was trying to return it because I just didn't like it.

BASED BASED BASEF BASED BASED BASED

>>713000993
Only the paid ones. As a result they only have free lootboxes in their countries.
Which is a good thing, gambling is extremely predatory, even more so with today's technology.
That shit's been tuned to take advantage of some specific evolutionary behaviour some people have and destroy their lives as a result.

>>713001081
for sure, it makes those games a bigger target, but only because Denuvo works, and while yes some games have been cracked, many haven't and it typically takes months to get them cracked, which I would assume what the publishers care most about, how it sells in the first few months, unless I'm mistaken I don't recall any Denuvo game which was cracked instantly, which is what was happening pre-Denuvo

>>713000464
KEK ALERT KEK ALERT

>>713001404
right, publishers care the most for the first few months, that's where the majority of big bucks sales come from.

and thieves are of course lying. they want new bing bing wahoo, and when they can't steal it, they buy it.
Ask any supermarket detective for verification.

>>713001404
>I don't recall any Denuvo game which was cracked instantly
depends on the Denuvo version, or if there was some day-1 fuckup that forgot to add Denuvo in the day-1 patch. But if one version of Denuvo is cracked, then there was day-1 cracks of Denuvo if they were using the same version, this is what happened with RE3.

>>712999974
>I'm sure it will be cheap and worth it.
You could make the same argument for anything a big corpo does. It may not be worth pursuing, but it's no more legal for it.

>>713000464
>Except nothing in Nintendo's EULA is illegal.
Doubtful without extensive analysis within any given legal system, due to the above fact most companies push extremely far into the grey.
Besides the other anon talked about doing X, Y, and Z, not whatever specific actions Nintendo bans you for. The point is that accepting TOS doesn't waive your customer rights.

>>712994271
>Nintendo wants to sell their consoles at cheaply as possible
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHA

>>713000464
KIKE ALERT KIKE ALERT

>>713001236
Yeah right? In my mind it's a deceptive practice to put a game on sale but not actually sell the game
If the customer is buying a temporary digital license then the packaging should make it clear that it only contains a license and if it requires an agreement of any terms or conditions those should be agreed to before the money and product are exchanged
Otherwise any reasonable person would be led to believe that they have acquired ownership of the product at purchase

>>713001404
>unless I'm mistaken I don't recall any Denuvo game which was cracked instantly
Didn't hogwarts legacy get cracked within two weeks of releasing?
The software itself is hardly uncrackable. The biggest reason why people don't bother is that most companies remove it after one year or so.

The EU needs to step in and stop sony and nintendo from doing this through new laws

>>712999269
>Derivative works
>Make wahoo party meme
>Money stolen

>>712996975
kill yourself middle class goon

>>713001967
It's already illegal for them to block a console in the EU. They can only block games.

>>713001967
>>712989987 (OP)

>>713000464
>Except nothing in Nintendo's EULA is illegal.
Yeah, I'm sure there was nothing illegal in Disney+'s EULA that said you forego the right to sue Disney for any reason, which lead to a man (who tried a Disney+ free trial) unable to sue Disney after his wife died at Disney World because of food poisoning.
These are the companies you defend.

>>712999910
Video game piracy specifically was literally never a financial problem, just a convenient scapegoat for uninteresting games not selling well.

>>713001386
Oh I agree and I can't speak for belgium but here in the netherlands we get commercials for online casinos on daytime tv so cracking down on lootboxes seems contradictory.

>>712990062
Terms of use are not legally binding in most of the world nigga. You can't be forced into using your property a certain way by the person that sold it to you. There's a reason right to repair/alter cases keep winning in favor of users.

>>713001967
>yes, mommy, protect me from getting caught for stealing games

>>713002436
>yeah, you see NINTENDO POSIONED MY WIFE by blocking me from stealing their games

>>713002469
your perceived truth of it doesn't matter from the developer/publisher perspective, if there is a way for people to steal your game without too much hassle they will put in things like denuvo without a second thought to make it harder because its seen as a loss of revenue if you don't have it - not every dev has this same mindset, but those that use denuvo do

>>713000464
>AKSHULLY UR ALL DITS!~ IF YOU UNDERSTOOND THAT CORPOS CAN MAKE YOU SUCK COCK LEGALLY YOU'D GLADLY ACCEPT A BIG SLOBBERING OF TENDO CUM RIGHT DOWN YOUR GULLET
You are a sheep. A prime example that knowledge does not equal intelligence.

>>713002861
cock sucking is voluntary
Steamies do it all the time though
sad

>>713000464
HAVA NAGILA
HAVA NAGILA
HAVA NAGILA

>J-Tag 360
>don't go online
>hack PSP
>don't go online
>hack PS3
>don't go online (im aware some do but this is a 20 year old console at this point not launch month)

It's that ez bby.

Can you get banned for modifying your car?

>>712989987 (OP)
You only can't go online, but you can still play games offline right?

>>713003118
until they need update
kek

>>712991980
eric, took you long enough

>>713003057
"hey officer, yeah, I just modded my property. WTF I can do whatever I want with my property like removing the license plate FASCISM"

Do you really need to play Mario Kart World? With that many requirements and conditions?

>>712993087
>If your steam profile gets flagged for cheating Your entire library is locked out of multiplayer
no it's not, a vac ban just bans you from the servers using vac. That's literally all there is to it. You can literally just play the same game online on servers that simply don't use vac, which is possible in every valve game that I am aware of.

>>713003057
Yes, actually.

>>713003458
so only banned from thousands of servers of different games got it

>>713002775
Dead by Daylight is not my cup of tea, but it has spent 423 weeks in the top 100 sellers of Steam with its only arguable DRM being the mere fact that it is on Steam. BG3 despite being a single player game with no DRM has spent 131 weeks in the top 100 sellers. Gaben and Valve are lazy coat-riders these days, but were right when they said piracy is a service issue. Make a game worth buying, and people will buy.

>>713003569
yeah? like any ban ever

If buying isn't ownership
piracy isn't stealing

When a company sells you something and they can revoke your usage of said thing at any point, it's time to jump ship
become ungovernable, get yourself a PC, download everything you want and back them up before internet becomes a centralized hellhole and enjoy games and software for the rest of your life.

>>713003579
>>piracy is a service issue
>implements always online DRM
>which doesn't exist when you steal the game
???

btw. you misquote fat Gabe, he was talking about Russia, not you you stupid cattle.

>some random lucky games sold well, including one online multiplayer game
oh wow, really? an online multiplayer game sells? wow, I wonder why that is, everyone could have easily stolen that piece of shit

>>712990062
>terms of eating the steak you paid for: you agree to eating the steak with your left hand only
>eat the steak with your right hand, they take it away from you while handing you bill+tip
>this is OK in the EULAcuck mind

>>712990062
Imagine traveling to 20 years ago and telling the world libs would become corporate dick-suckers that hate free speech.

>>713003691
I own my bing bong wahoo carts, therefore you agree that piracy is stealing indeed.

>>712990208
>NOOOOO YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE EXACT LINE THAT SAYS I CAN'T PLAY FLASHCARTS THAT ARE FILLED WITH STOLEN GAMES
>KEKKEKKEKKEKKEK
Literal gradeschooler behavior, grow the fuck up

>>712999910
>Tendies have the mentality of a battered house wife in an abusive relationship
Ok tendie behavor is making more sense.

should i buy a switch 2

>>712999910
In 2004 games had DRMs that constantly check the dvd in the drive making the entire game stutter constantly (NWN2)
You're a gigantic betacuckfaggot

>>713003754
Imagine buying from a company that hates you and will do anything to limit your fun.

>>712993003
Are you me? I had the exact same shit happen with EA after playing Apex for like week. Tried to log in, couldn't as I was seemingly permanently banned, contacted customer support. They never disclosed the reason for my ban and the 5th time I tried to contact them trying to pry out a valid reason, they literally went and said "any further contacts to customer support will be ignored"
Haven't touched EA anything since, and never will.

>>713003796
except that you don't, and nintendo can come over to your house and take them away from you at any time if they wished
it just so happens that you're an inconsequencial insect that they don't bother, if what you're doing hampers with their cash flow, then they will send fucking assassins to your house

>>712999910
What about every good game that released without Denuvo and goes on to sell millions of copies? More recently, Expedition 33
You think releasing GTA 6 without DMR would make a dent on sales? People only pirate shit they don't want to buy

>>713003887
>NOOOOO YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE EXACT LINE THAT SAYS I CAN'T PLAY FLASHCARTS THAT ARE FILLED WITH STOLEN GAMES
unironically yes. that's how contracts and laws work. Everything that isn't outright forbidden is allowed.

>>713004614
Very funny, Steamie
>it was real in my mind
I'm not the idiot who signed a contract and then renting games, while being called subscriber.

>>712990208
i would agree if you retards weren't crying about this exact clause ever since it was announced, but now that nintendo actually enforces it you act all surprised?

>>713005913
sue them
they are waiting for that
>yes, mr. judge, of course mr MigShit cart is filled with stolen games
>BUT IT'S MY RIGHT TO THEIR GAMES FOR FREE
>I'M PRESERVING THESE GAMES ANYWAY
>wtf, why are you laughing now

>>713001967
stop them from what? banning accounts that are caught cheating in online games?

>>712991526
>Sony only mentions software not hardware
why lie?

>>713000198
The DMCA has anti-circumvention provisions, you cannot legally backup Switch games as doing so requires circumventing DRM which is illegal.

>>713006268
>another cuckold getting an hardon over having his rights stolen
How did the world become like this?

>>713006162
>drag a game folder to an external drive
>launch the game off of the .exe
>game boots up normally
That was too difficult for you so you decided that a corporation designed to squeeze every penny out of you has your best interests in mind?

>>712990870
It actually does exist and you can refund a bricked Switch 2 by taking Nintendo to small claims court. Nintendo either pays their very expensive legal team to fight you for $500 in a court where they have zero options to follow up from (and lose because what they are doing is technically illegal) or you get your money because they refuse to show up.

>>713007868
>I DINDU NUFFIN MR. JUDGE IZA GUD BOI HELPIN DA COMMUNITY
I guess it's easy to paint everyone else as the problem when you've already painted yourself into a corner.

>>713008059
Steam also manages dependencies like runtimes and configuration behind the scenes.

Can't you circumvent a ban? Aren't there options to, y'know, hack yourself out of a ban?

>>713007868
>moi roights are to steel gaems mr judge

>>713009743
yes, the hack is §449 + tip

>>712990208
>aimed at kids
Found your first lie. Kids can't afford 500 bucks

>>712999269
>document available on their website.
Wait, so if I put a document on my website that states that anyone selling me stuff also allow me to modify and own it - will it be legal and binding?

>>713003691
piracy was never stealing
it's copyright infringement which violates federal copyright laws

>>713002380
There have been zero (0) documented cases of Nintendo disabling or "bricking" a console
literally all they do is ban you from online services, that's it

>>712990320
At this point I'd be worried about a poorly testing update or official software to brick the damn thing.

>>712990301
>be japanese
>say "run away"
>get banned

>>713010070
this never happened

>>713009010
Well, no. They'll just not show up so you'll get a win by default but no one enforces that they pay you whatever damages you're owned, so you're just left with a brick and a piece of paper.

>>713010889
Shouldn't have used the hard r.
But seriously, to this day I'm baffled not by the fact that it happened, but by the fact that some people were defending it, even saying "then don't use that word".
Imagine being so arrogant that you unironically think that people shouldn't be allowed to use words in thousands of languages that exist in the world only because they are similar to one no-no word from one language.

>>712989987 (OP)
Tendies are so retarded

>>713009984
>>713009357
>buy product
>want to own product
>kikes online tell you you're a thief and a dindu for using your own product how you like.
Okay Schlomo

>>713000984
>>713010287
Wow you guys must be fucking lawyers or something. If I told you that the EULA is available on their website and is also presented to you when you set up your console would it be like the last act of a Law and Order episode when the bombshell drops?

>>712999142

I do more good shilling the games i pirate to friends than if i only shilled games i bought.

Are pirateniggers even human?

>>712999910

Denuvo is literally a product sold to CEO's.

>"mr ceo, bing bing wahoo 3 was pirated 20 million times! If you buy our drm, those 20m users will be forced to buy it! We only charge the equivalent of 1m sales to use it!"
>"You're telling me we can improve sales 30% for a 1% cost! Sign me up!"

>"Invest in my game"
>>"Will I see a return?"
>"Well if everyone decides to pirate the game, no"
>>"Then no"
This is somehow an impossible concept for people to understand

>>712991356
Because they are cultists. nintendo is their religion and you are blasphemer if you dare to say nintendo isn't right all the time.

>>713011798
>ignoring the part where you're committing piracy
>painting yourself as the good guy because "the heckin corpos won't let you own the software, chud!" while you try to benefit from said software illegally
Just be a pirate and shut the fuck up.

>>712989987 (OP)
I bought and hacked my Switch back in 2018, I've never gone online.

>>712989987 (OP)
What did Xhe do?

>>713000601
>cherrypicking a dogshit collection that's missing the first two, which are also the best, games in the series

>>712990208
I'm not sure what the word cuck means, but if Nintendo haters use it as an insult, then I'm proud to be one.

>>712991980
>Normie people hate it.
>Collectors hate it.
>Gamers hate it.
>Youtubers hate it.
Youtubers and collectors don't play games anyway.

>>712989987 (OP)
Can't you make a new account?

>>713013145
it's a hardware ban.

>>713011339
Religions tend to have sacred words.

>>713012126
Not even 1%. They can write off the Denuvo and cheat taxman. It's a scheme that straight up earns them money.

>>713006445
I like how you needed to move the goalpost to not sound like a lunatic.

>>712990301

>>712989987 (OP)
>Nintendo: "We're releasing games. Please don't pirate them."
>/v/tard: "Haha, i just pirated and emulated (nintendo game). what saps! Yarrr i pirate everything because it's so easy lol"
>Nintendo: "Okay..."
New console comes out
>Nintendo: "We have improved our antipiracy measures and technology."
>/v/tard: "NOOO, THIS IS ILLEGAL! WHY WOULD NINTENDO DO THIS?"

If you guys were not being such incomprehensibly retarded idiots and bragging about how you pirate things and kept quiet about it, things wouldn't be like this. What's worse is that because people had to be loud and proud about pirating and emulating, this sets a precedent for other companies.

>>712991526
>>Standard industry practice
>That totally means it's okay to steal someone's money, guys!!!
The absolute state...

>>712990320
Yeah and that hasnt happened yet because reasons right? You anti ninteniggers are pathetic. I have seen you cry and whine about how you should be able to steal Nintendo games and you justify it. One of the things I have noticed is the people crying about piracy on youtube are indians and jewish ex-Nintendo "fans". Like Mutahar, he always cries about piracy being the savior of gaming and of course he is a brown pajeet.

>>712991526
The worst part is seeing shit like "How to report chats."

>>713013462
I alone forced nintendo to be more hostile towards their paypiggies?
Fuck, I'm awesome.

>this entire thread
The guy in the OP is a notorious cheater banned for cheating in Splatoon.

>>713013704
That depends... Did you pirate games? Or did you pirate games and brag about it like someone using a shitter for the first time?

>>712996975
Harsh, but based.

>>713013805
Pirated and bragged, what are they gonna do?

>>713012737
>committing piracy
I'm not, I'm simply preserving the games I already bought onto an SD.

>>713013872
they already did it, nigger. Absolute nigger behavior.

>>713002752
The Nintendo food at Universal has food poising potential.

>>713014272
Good, I'll pirate some more. Then I'll delete them without playing and pirate again and again.
Think you can stop me? Try.

>>713011798
>I boughted this car
>now I can fill this car with whatever stuff I can get my hands off - free of course lol

>>713012957
>that doesn't count
okay, show me all these PC releases that sell let's say 5 million, that's basically nothing, games on consoles sell 50 million.

>>713013389
What did i move it with? The retard used cheats in online splatoon games and then got it's account banned which shows in the OP image.

>>712999041
If /v/ had ID's you'd see it was like 1, maybe 2 niggas.

>>712990062
You're really pathetic.

>>713014417
>bought car
>get into accidents because you have to pay extra for brakes

>>712999041
>Why is /v/ so fucking gay when it comes to piracy?
ever since shazbowl which had a million fucking viewers 4chan has been inhabited unironically by redditors and normies.
/v/ is the biggest and fastest moving board on 4chan with over 50 million unique posters each month.
at this point its more normies and redditors than genuine assclowns.
the board is a marketing target for fucks sake.
pic unrelated.

>>712989987 (OP)
>return for a full refund
It's that simple.

hackers bricking their switches is a sacrifice I'm willing to make as long as it gets me a good hack in the future.

>>713015026

>>713015171
good ol larry.

>>712989987 (OP)
Deserved for buying any Nintendo product lolol

>>713010889
>>713011339
What? Is that real?

>>712990104
TPBP. Shitcher 2: Assassins of Tendies BTFO

>>712990062
I mean, I agree with you, but why the hell did you have to express yourself like a manchild?

>>712990176
Yes you can.

>>713015361
Yep, Japanese players were (are?) getting banned on Twitch for saying 逃げろ - nigero - run away/escape. And yes, of course people were defending it.

>>713014417
>buy car
>get sued for changing the oil

>>713014883
>stealing games is brakes

>>713000036
you can absolutely do whatever you want to a car or house you are financing.

>>712989987 (OP)
let me guess, she already got 100+ death threats by tendies, right?

>>712999974
>Go ahead and sue Nintendo
Appeal to the broken judicial system
You've admitted that it's completely sound and lost.

Awww, the poor little pirates.

I play my tiny violin for them.

>>713015494
Ain't no fucking way... ain't no fucking way

>>713015540
how the fuck are you real lmfao

>>712990208
Disney tried to pull some shit like this last year with their Disney+ streaming service. I've gone off grid since then. Full pirate bro now.

>>713015639
Shut the fuck up Boco.

>>713015639
You've been really annoying lately. Ever since the hack your panties have been in a bunch. Unwad them.

>>712990062
where does it say i agreed?

>>712990301
Never buy online games, Nigger
Never buy games made by Nintendo, Nigger
Never buy games made by Sony, Nigger
Never buy games made by jews, Nigger
Never buy games made by faggots, Nigger
Thanks for the attention, Nigger

>>713000036
This is a joke right? People renovate and repair/replace stuff all the time. You gonna sell your house when your water heater needs replacing?

>>713000464
>Except nothing in Nintendo's EULA is illegal
intentionally damaging a consumer's device
remote bricking, which i believe they claim to be able to do in their tos, is very likely illegal under us law. op's pic isn't that though, it's just a device or account ban; that would almost certainly be legal.

remote bricking without user authorization is explicitly illegal as it renders the device that the user paid for unusable, depleting its value; it'd be functionally the same as if they came in and smashed it. nintendo tries to get around this by claiming that the user agreed to it in the tos; in order for that to even potentially hold weight, the provision itself needs to be clear and obvious and the user's consent must also be clear, obvious, and informed. courts haven't even consistently found that shrinkwrap mandatory terms of service for devices like this are in and of themselves enforceable due to informed consent issues, let alone an exceptionally dubious provision like this. courts could even potentially strike it just because it's such a one-sided term and there's no recourse for the buyer to reclaim their device's value. it's likely that if they did remote brick a device, they would at least be required to repair or replace it under warranty or offer a refund. failing that, they could be sued for damages.

in practical terms, if nintendo actually remote bricked your device (not just banned it from their services) and you actually wanted to go down a legal route, your best options would be small claims (where procedures tend to be vastly simplified, you don't even generally need a lawyer for this) or, if this happened to a lot of people, joining a class action suit. if you bought the device in your state and agreed to the contract in your state, in most cases you can file the small claims case in your local jurisdiction even if nintendo's american offices are based out of some other state.

>>712993003
i would bomb EA myself if i could, i got perma banned from all EA games bc i put george droyd as my name on steam. demonic fucking company.

>>713016010
is*, idk how that line break replaced the word is

>>713015821

Ya know, I noticed that too.

I'll work on that.

>>713000464
>Except nothing in Nintendo's EULA is illegal
I can tell you right now half the shit in their EULA wouldn't fly in any EU court if it came down to it.

>>713013762
People like him kill eSports.

>>712989987 (OP)
g-guys.......
imagine if nintendo was microsoft

>>712990062
Die in a fire

>>712990208
You do understand that contracts cannot supercede the law, right?

>>712990961
heh, well done anon

>>713016019
That's wild, man. My Steam handle is so fucking offensive that I'm auto-muted on almost every CS server I join and this hasn't happened to me. What EA game did this?

>buy car
>do illegal stuff with it
>get busted
>>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTF THIS UNFAIR

500 USD stolen during economic recession is nasty.

>>712990301
>Play online
>A guy on VC say it's his birthday
>I reply "Happy Birthday Nick Gurr"
>Banned

>>712990062
I hate faggots like you so much

>>712991362
Tinkerers, people who like to hack for the fun of it, people who want to be on the cutting edge of emulation or piracy. Some more good reasons, some less so. I'm perfectly okay with people doing this but no way am I going to get worked up over it on their behalf. All my emulators and ROMS are for stuff that's truly ancient, hard to find, or that I already own(ed) and don't care to buy again. I'm actually grateful for the work some of these people do, but I don't see a reason to run out and get started when the console is less than 2 weeks old.

>>712989987 (OP)
imagine being poor

>>713016684
>buy tractor
>try to repair it
>get sued
>NOOOOO IT'S UNFAIR

>>713016684
Cars have better difficulty settings

>>713016684
What is illegal about modding?

Just don't pirate you dumb thirdies. Videogames are a western hobby for wealthy people.

>>712990062
>say words
>(You)s gaomed

>>713017189
>western hobby for wealthy people.
those are the reason why games are garbage now, they can't help themselves and have to buy all the slop that releases. Worse than niggers.

>>713017189
>Videogames are a western hobby for wealthy people.

But Chinamen are making more games than ever.

>>713017357
t. shack dweller still playing OSRS 20 years later

>>712991362
You kids might not understand this, but for old people, we're used to owning things when we buy them. And if you own something then you can do whatever the fuck you want with it.

>inb4 what about their online terms of service
sure but that only applies to things you do on their servers, which of course they can have control over because they pay to maintain and operate those servers. But what you do with your property in your house is none of their fucking business

>>713017478
*bans you*

>>712992183
>defending corporate greed
gee, i wonder who's behind this post

>>713017109
>Modding bypass the console's security measures, allowing users to play pirated games, which is a breach of copyright and terms of service. While modding offer features like playing backups and imports, Nintendo's focus is on protecting their intellectual property and preventing unauthorized use.
>While modding is unlikely to result in legal action against individuals, it is still a breach of the Terms of Service.

>>712996665
>There should be a law that says companies must hire a legal interpreter for you if they expect you to sign a contract. At their expense.
retard. companies would just hire the slimiest lawyer to represent "(You)", then just increase the prices of their products to cover the additional costs.

>>713017478
>sure but that only applies to things you do on their servers, which of course they can have control over because they pay to maintain and operate those servers.
So the entire thing OP is about?

It is illegal, there are consumer protection laws specific to this bullshit. Same goes for the "legal arbitration" BS they slipped into their new ToS.
Problem is no one it happens to has the money to afford a lawyer long enough to fight companies like Nintendo that historically force people into bankruptcy by delaying the court cases and making them settle.
Best case scenario is it happens to enough people for a class action lawsuit, or tricking Timmy into sueing Nintendo as well as Apple.

>>712990062
I will buy nothing and you will go bankrupt.

>>713013414
has this ever actually happened? I've only seen the opposite where rules state no sex/politics and yet gay faggots get a free pass

>>713013704
You are aware of the fact that pirates and youtubers who bragged about pirating Switch games are partially responsible for the lawsuit against Yuzu emulator, right?
All you had to do was to keep your mouth shut. How hard is that?

>>713019227
Literally what happened in the pic.

>>713019227
That's the joke.

>>713017109
What's illegal about stealing games?
This is my cake, not the baker's cake. I took it without paying, but no harm is done. Insurance will pay for it all.

>>713017478

Dumbfuck illiterate boomer faggot, you can do whatever the fuck you want with your Switch 2, they just banned it from connecting to their servers, the very thing you agree they have the right to do. God damn moron.

>>713019295
You are aware I did all of that and I'm still here? And I'll do it again and again.

>>713019498
So it's not like you hate only Nintendo. You hate the emu devs as well. Well, good for you I guess.

>>712989987 (OP)
do weebniggers really

>>712989987 (OP)
You have to identify yourself and submit the object for some type of analysis which is you basically admitting to pirating to sue though so gl.

>>713019715
That's right, good for me, bad for you.
Suffer.

>>713019414
You have the physical game?
Is my NSP a physical copy?

>>713019837
Be sure to include this conversation in your next yt video rant, anon.

>>713019974
Like yours?

>>713010889
Ina i know its you

>>713020052
Nah, mine's got only 10 subscribers so far. Do you want a link?

>>713020190
I dream of it.

>>713019798
I saw a couple of reviewers who had dumped their legit switch cartridges get banned.
This guy for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgYTA18_vo

>>713020098
Did she get banned???

>>713020052
is this the guy who posted a full meltdown about people spoiling a nintendo game (i forgot which game exactly) that one time?
someone post the nintendie crashout gif

>>713020269
Ok.
https://youtu.be/Ule064199b4?si=y5bn7x37Pxz_2JR7

Fuck, this reminded me how I need to go back to NG Black 2 master ninja run...after 3 months of pause lel.

>>713020556
Downvoted + advertising/begging

still at it?

>>713020614
You said you dream of it.
What can I say? I'm a man of my word.

Also, I can't see dislikes. Better leave a bitter comment.

>>712989987 (OP)
What game is he banned from and how did he get banned?

>>713020820
>Also, I can't see dislikes
That's okay, I can.

>>713020836
He's banned from the entire online service because he was a retard and put a mig switch cart in without getting offline first. Piracy Darwinism.

>>713000104
>Aren’t there studies that show that people who pirate aren’t even going to buy the games in the first place?
No. There was one study in Europe but it was thrown out since there was no way to actually tell.

>>712990104
How else can I play the most lukewarm Mario kart since the gba game?

>>713020098
If she ever goes to japan she'll be executed like the korean dog she is.

>>712990104
>still shilling that failure that got outsold by the switch 2 in 4 days

>>713020996
It's his own damn fault then. Zoomers are retarded. Back in my day you knew to keep your head down when you pirated things. You stay offline, and you don't advertise you're doing it. People wonder why Nintendo is always shutting things down and going after pirates; it's because they're broadcasting, loudly, "hey look at me!"

>>712989987 (OP)

>THE FUCK YOU MEAN I CAN'T STEAL WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE? THIS IS BRUTALITY, I'M THE VICTIM FOR NOT BEING ALLOWED TO STEAL IN PEACE

>>713020052
based paladin of consumerism justice.

>>712990062
>create new product with 100 pages of TOS no one will read
>include paragraph how anyone agreeing will be your slave for lifetime and everything he owns will be yours
>???
>profit

i have an american express plat card. every time sellers pull silly shit like this i just charge back.
the largest amount that was ruled in my favor recently was me not showing up for an event when i was vacationing in hawaii. $4000 returned to my account no questions asked.

>>713022669
So basically you lie to them.

>>712989987 (OP)
Piratecucks lost

>>712990208
No company wants to ban paying customers, the rules that get you banned aren't a trick, they're obvious.

>>713023127
na, always get them on technicalities. amex plat customer service A+

>>712990062
Expecting better from 13 year olds on 4chan?

>>713022539
blacks can exactly clone and replace the iphones and sneakers they "steal" before walking out of the store? trvly yakvbian

>>713020527
he had a meltdown because people on pc were emulating a nintendo game a week before release. i think it was totk

>>712990062
KEKAROO
LOTS of wall of text replies to this one

>>713023882
>it doesn't count as stealing
sure thing jamal

>>713024048
it is by definition not stealing

>>713024217
yes jamal, it's not looting, it's not murder, it's not drug overdose, you got all the mental gymnastics to avoid all accountability

>>713024048
>nigger stealing
>thing is taken and assets of victim are reduced
>Piracy
>nothing is taken and assets of any supposed victim remain exactly the same

>>713023885
>a week before release
That's called pirating and it ruins emulators for us that use them legally

>>713024358
piracy is not theft
piracy is piracy

you can cry that piracy is morally wrong if you want but you are objectively, factually incorrect if you call it stealing. words have definitions

>>713024654
nintendo doesn’t care if you “legally” emulate, they want you to face the wall regardless. they hate you

>>713023668
Meaning you lie.
Because if you gave them a story that implicated you then they wouldn't approve it.

>>712990208
>written in legalese on a console aimed at kids
I might have agreed with you except for the fact that nearly everyone who owns one of these isn't a kid and by not reading the legaleze is blindly agreeing to its terms, whether they actually agree with them or not.
Yes, it's true that you can't use the thing if you don't agree to the terms, which is why you shouldn't buy shit if you're not ready to either accept the rules or be willing to fight the terms in court.

So can I buy a new console, open it and bring it back in the same day if I don't accept the terms of service? A full refund will be given?
That scenario is stupid; they should have ToS and EULA in print that you should sign/consent to before buying something that requires you to use it.

>>713025246
>nearly everyone who owns one of these isn't a kid
Statistically wrong.
>which is why you shouldn't buy shit if you're not ready to either accept the rules or be willing to fight the terms in court.
morally wrong, as even if I wanted 99% of the people buying a switch don't have the money to fight in court even if they were right.

>>712990062
It's still stupid. It's like those "this movie is intended for the consumer only, no sharing" warnings except if you share it the vhs tape blows up

>>713025332
You do know the ToS and EULA that come up when logging into consoles is for the services attached to the console like PSN or covered repairs right? You can use the console and physical games offline without agreeing to anything

>>713024967
you are one dumbass nigger and this retarded post is further proof you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
when you submit a claim you need to submit proof of course, receipts, pics, explanations of how you were wronged etc.
i only submit claims when the items are late, not as described, doesn't function as expected, and so on. and it's been approved 100% every time. loyal amex customer since 2011 as they are known in the industry for impeccable service. cry some more about it.

>>712996665
The law already takes that into account
EULAs are largely non-binding because of this exact reason.

>>712989987 (OP)
>Online Services are restricted for this Nintendo Account
Can't you just make another if you want to play Online?
The Switch lets you have multiple profiles for different users doesn't it?
I know in some games like Pokemon, save data is tied to the account, but if this is about Mario Kart (which barely has unlockables to begin with), making a new account should be fine.

>>712989987 (OP)
Hacker status : Caught!

>>713026242
Nah, the whole console is banned from online, not the account.

>>712994271
>the most expensive tech
>dogshit 60fps screens since forever

>>713025417
>Statistically wrong.
Prove it with actual stats.
>morally wrong, as even if I wanted 99% of the people buying a switch don't have the money to fight in court even if they were right.+
my point was don't buy it if you don't agree with the terms, or if you have the money, fight the terms for the better of everyone.

>>713012985
Kek

>>712999269
>post-purchase contract
not my problem

>>713026064
>explanations of how you were wronged etc.
See this is the important part. You can submit an entirely fabricated story about you being wronged and they won't check it.
>i only submit claims when the items are late, not as described, doesn't function as expected, and so on
>the largest amount that was ruled in my favor recently was me not showing up for an event when i was vacationing in hawaii.
Why lie when you already shot yourself in the foot?

>>712989987 (OP)
It is illegal in the EU

>>713024805
>emulating legally
Such a meme cope, thats why Nintendo can and will keep bricking the pirates consoles

>>713026868
boughting a switch 2 and a mig right now

>>712989987 (OP)
>twitter snip
>no context at all
>UHHH IS THIS BAD??
>a whole thread of speculation about...?

what the fuck is this thread supposed to be about


HEY FAT NIGGER I DON'T USE TWITTER COULD YOU PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT FOR THIS RAGEBAIT SO I CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT NIGGER SHIT I SHOULD BE MAD ABOUT NOW K THANKS

since when has /v/ shifted from fuck yeah piracy and modded multiplayer servers to "buy it and let them keep you rmoney if you don't bend over for X company." I know /v/ has always been cock hungry for nintendo but jesus christ.

>>713015361
Yes.

>>712989987 (OP)
>Hack system
>go online like a retard.
>get banned from online.
fucking deserved for being a retard.

>>713027334
at a certain point you just have to acknowledge that people do it to themselves
if you don't like that you can't say NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER i'd recommend not buying the product, but it seems to be a given that everyone here is OBLIGATED to buy every brand new thing and do the one thing they agreed not to do and then act surprised when a company (who does not and will not ever give a single actual shit about you as a person) decides to take it away

>>713027454
Well if you're retarded enough to say stupid shit like that then I understand getting banned from the game but your console getting bricked is fucking insane.

>>713027530
there's no context attached to the OP
but if terms say you can't modify your equipment and go online then i'd recommend either not buying the product or not modifying the product
i know it's hard to grasp for some people but purchasing something with an agreement means you are signing... an agreement
i can't really be mad at Nintendo for keeping hacks off the internet

I shouldn't be surprised that people are bending over backwards so much to take Nintendo's cock all the way up their ass, but for some reason I am.

>>713027679
not our fault dumbasses try to pirate shit without thinking of the consequences.

>>713027679
honestly if you're mad at the terms just don't buy the product

>>713027663
Yeah I agree it's retarded. Just don't buy it. This is /v/ though.

>>713027918
word up

>>713027663
>purchasing something with an agreement means you are signing... an agreement
the agreement is after the purchase, not before

>>713028073
every time i buy on steam i have to agree to the terms before i even spend the money
every single video game that goes online since the 90s has had user agreements to go online
at what point can you just take responsibility yourself for agreeing?

>>713013680
Those reasons are the only ones buying consoles without games are cultists who worship their toys
Once kids and normies start buying them the shit will hit the fan

>>713028305
Do you really think zoomers have the ability to feel responsible for their own actions?

>>713028305
>i have to agree to the terms before i even spend the money
>before i even spend the money
>BEFORE
nigga learn to read

>>713027530
>your console getting bricked is fucking insane.
Yeah, that's why it hasn't happened

>>713028514
nigga learn how to take responsibility for yourself
is this the first console you've ever bought?
you dont know about user agreements? are you just playing dumb and buying a nintendo and then making a pikachu face when the one thing you know is always there is... there?
nigga you literally need to learn how to use your brain

>>713028514
from nintendo's website:

If you purchased the Console from an authorized retailer but do not agree to the terms of this Agreement, you may return the Console for a refund in accordance

take responsibility for your own actions

>>713028514
>want hot dog
>give money to hot dog seller
>"here's the hot dog"
>open your mouth to bite into it
>"by the way if you eat it you agree to sell your soul to me"

>>713028773
OP BLOWN THE FUCK OUT FOR ETERNITY

>>712989987 (OP)
I hope a switch 2 emulator is up and running by the time the splatoon singleplayer spinoff comes out, I'll never give nintendo a dime.

>>713029050
you'll be lucky if it is running by the switch 3 launch

>>712991980
You don't decide that, the facts do.
What do the facts say?...

>>712989987 (OP)
Depends on whether you live in the EU or not. Either way it wouldn't have been a problem if the twiiter tard waited for a free emulator instead of giving Nintendo money.

This is an agreement (the “Agreement”) between you and Nintendo of America Inc. (together with its affiliates, “Nintendo” or “we” or “our”) and provides important information about your access to and use of this Nintendo video game console, its accessories, the Software (defined below), and any services available using this Nintendo video game console (the “Console”).

Please read this Agreement carefully before using the Console. By clicking the “Accept” option, or by using the Console, you represent that you are 18 years of age or older (or the age of majority where you live) and agree to be bound by this Agreement. By clicking the “Accept” option, you acknowledge and agree that you are responsible for any use of the Console, including any use of the Console by other users, and are responsible for ensuring that all other users of the Console comply with the terms of this Agreement and any other applicable terms.

If you purchased the Console from an authorized retailer but do not agree to the terms of this Agreement, you may return the Console for a refund in accordance with the applicable return policy. All other users of the Console who do not agree to this Agreement must not use the Console.


So you bought the console knowing that user agreements exist, got all the way to the User Agreement and skipped all of it, and then got mad when you broke a rule that you glossed over and want your money back?

>>712990062
Cool I will simply choose to not buy their console thereby removing the need to agree to their draconian terms of service

>>713029439
This should be common sense

>>713028773
>you may return the Console for a refund in accordance
lmao
dyrb they'll let you do that

>>713029568
Retailers have no choice in the matter

>>713029568
no i think we're living in your world where they will twiddle with their evil badguy moustache and do a nefarious cackle rubbing their hands and saying "YOUR MONEY IS STOLEN MUAHAHAHA"

meanwhile most retail stores offer 30 day return policies w/ receipt

>>713012985
boi...!

>>713029796
>retailer says no
>"b-b-but nintendo said-"
>this is not nintendo
>"@Nintendo @FBI @Mossad HEEEEEEKP"

>>712989987 (OP)
Yeah, I'll keep my Switch 1 for now...

>>713029923
all you have to do is keep your receipt
i know that's hard for you because you're a subhuman with a below 70 iq
i don't even know how you manage to feed yourself desu

>buy mig
>buy switch 2
>brick switch 2
>return switch 2
>reorder and brick switch 2s once or twice
>return mig

>>713029923
>retailer says no
>phone up nintendo
>hand phone to retailer
>return authorised
It's really that simple

>>713030526
this is too complicated
life hack : KEEP THE RECEIPT
THAT'S WHY THEY WASTE PAPER TO PRINT THEM

>>713030526
kek

>>713025498
Sure, for other consoles but the Switch 2 has far too much functionality hidden behind online; hardly a working system, especially with games having download codes now.

>>713030647
Of course you're going to keep the receipt you idiot.

>>713030787
OF COURSE

>>713030519
@NINTEDO @FBI @POTUS @ISRAEL @WEF
KILL THIS GUY NOW

>>713030780
>, for other consoles
No, it's considerably worse on to her consoles both because of their multimedia functionality that requires logging in to psn/xbl whatever and the fact that they can disable your physical games since they're all just installs and function in the same way as digital games in that you don't play them from the disc. A banned PS5 pro, is functionally bricked since you won't be able to pair a drive to it either.
In fact if you have a game key game downloaded you'll still be able to play that game with the key, you just won't be able to get more.

>>713031103
Interesting. Further proof that no one should be lock into these ecosystems. On that note, I need to get off Windows and onto Linux.