Thread 713106632

Duscss games like DMC, Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta

>>713106632 (OP)
I miss this genre of games but Ninja Gaiden 4 doesnt seem to have hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits so I'm not buying it

>>713106632 (OP)
Hold up.

Snake was dying in MGS4. Why didn't he just become a cyborg like Raiden?

>>713109142
Snake was aging rapidly because he was designed to do so. He was born with an expiration date.

>>713107895
If the game has no Rachel I will not be getting it

>>713107895
Isn't the operator miko babe in the japanese red bondage tit-binding? I thought that was kinda hot

>>713109427
Exactly. He has the perfect excuse to become a cyborg.

replaying dmc5 with the mod that lets you use dante for the full game has made me realize that he does literally everything nero and V do but better and now I dunno why you'd play anyone else
>I don't like clawgripping to GUNTRICKSWORD
you just put trick and sword on the same buttons nero would buster/exceed and move weapon swap buttons to the dpad because if you're new and bad you can just literally never swap weapons mid fight and be absolutely fine because all of his weapons are so good and full of tools in this game

im gonna say it dmc2 is so overhated and it's such forced hatred it's making me think the dmc fanbase are actually filled with drama kids with the way they moaned over it. it's just mediocre but they treat it like it's disgustingly bad like some other shit.

>>713109718
MGR cyborgs are head/brain and a spine in a metal suit, if those organic cells are actively dying because they were coded to just kind of disintegrate at a set point it doesn't matter how much metal you surround it with

but the real reason is kojima didn't write this game and the devs didn't want to fuck with snake for similar reasons trish hangs around in every dmc game

>>713109992
>I have extremely low standards and haven't played any of the games that released directly before and after that games release, both on the PS2 and elsewhere, that make it look like total shit
k

>>713109992
No, it is truly a horrendously made game. It is amplified that every other mainline devil may cry game is actually very good. But even on its own, it sucks dick. Only redeeming factor is some of the monster designs looking cool.

>>713110214
>>713110116
bruh it's just a mid game, obsessing over it and treating it like it's the worlds worst video game is so fucking dramatic dude.

>>713109483
Same but even if it turns out she is in but with a censored outfit I won't be buying it

>>713106632 (OP)
I want a game with a baseline as good as MGR's and moves as cool as DMC5.

>character action
kill yourself

i mean it's just more of
>me: eh dmc2 was whatever
>EE: OMG DMC2 WAS THE WORST IT KILLED MY MOM IT LITERALLY WENT TO KYOANI AND BURNT DOWN THEIR BUILDING DMC2 CREATED WW2 DMC2 IS THE WORST THING IVE EVER SEEN IN THE HISTORY OF ATARI'S ET
like what the fuck is this hyperbole like lmfao what the hellie

>>713110424
Maybe ng4 but I doubt it

CHARACTER ACTION IS NOT THE NAME FOR THIS GENRE STOP FUCKING FORCING IT YOU POSER FUCKS

>>713110037
>those organic cells are actively dying because they were coded to just kind of disintegrate at a set point
Maybe that can be reversed with... nanomachines.

>>713106632 (OP)
I legitimately had more fun playing DmC than DMC3. Something about it felt smoother to me, I think it would be even better if it didn’t have mini-cutscenes consistently interrupting the gameplay. The combat itself is impressively smooth, especially considering the games before it (Heavenly Sword, Enslaved) and after it (Hellblade 1 & 2) felt sluggish.

>>713109992
It's good as Chaos Legion. Cool artstyle but shit everything else.

I really liked the dodge/slow time thing in Bayonetta
Are there any other games like that where dodging or blocking less second gives you an actual advantage to combat as opposed to the royal guard thing in DMC where it just neutralizes damage?

>>713111765
Every platinum game.

>>713111765
FF16 does this

>>713111765
Astral Chain
No More Heroes
Samurai Jack Battle Through Time

>>713110264
>mid
No it is shit

Why DMC3 feels so right compared to DMC5?
>>713107895
Don't they suck?
>t.Clueless

>>713113713(me)
I mean gameplay wise.

>>713110530
Shut the fuck up faggot

>>713113713
>>713113913
They're fun in 3RE but then you have to play 3RE

>>713113713
>old good
>new bad
Yawn

>>713114135
Anon, I was born the same year as DMC1....

>>713114273
So?
Being a zoomer does not make you immune to oldgoodnewbad phenomenon

>>713111765
Quite literally Transformers Devastation, it's the same mechanic in all but name. Go play it, good fucking game. Should've had a bigger budget.

>>713113713
3 has a actual gravity and no delay on the jump cancel

>>713113713
No, theyre Kino

>>713114575
>Should've had a bigger budget.
>originally there were going to be vocals that kicked in during the second phases of the bosses ala MGR
>but due to to budget and time constraints, they had to remove them
I still love the game's soundtrack, but I'm still pissed about that.

>>713114923
Alright, I'll get 2Black when its on sale.

Just played Bayonetta 1 and 2. Ready to play 3, what I'm in for? I hated Bayo 2 btw.

>>713116247
They copied the Arkham fight from DMC 3 and made the entire game be like it.

>>713111765
>dodge/slow time
Absolute shit taste and gay ass trend.

>>713109142
He wasn't fabulous enough

Your threadly reminder that stats mean absolutely nothing

>>713110491
>>713110264
>>713109992
Jesus christ nigga we get it, you got bullied for liking dmc2 like the no taste faggot you are, no one gives a fuck.

>>713106632 (OP)
Bruh just crop out donte

>>713110491
I think something worse than a normie is a normie who somehow wanders in here and doesn't adapt to the culture. Come on, say a slur, you pussy nigger. You afraid of getting cancelled?

>>713109142
Snake believes he's the last piece of the Philosopher's/Patriot's scheme and he needs to die.

>>713117069
>>713117456
this is exactly what im talking about man, you don't gotta exaggerate to be with your CULTURE AND YOUR ECELB opinions. you guys are acting like it wasn't a generic action game.

seriously what the fuck is wrong with you lol

>>713119014
Anyone know what this dumb nigga babbling about? Anyone?

>>713119714
dude look at me Im mr tough DMC guy im super serious all the time look at me GRRRR I REALLY HATE DMC2 I THINK ABOUT IT RENT FREE EVERYDAY literally you you fucking rage filled monkey indian ape

want to try ninja gaiden
>emulate 1
>grab black 2
>3 ??????
help a nigga play some vidya

>>713117456
saying shit without slurs in v somehow comes across as manlier than saying slurs
Its like extending the contrarian mindset to v itself. If everyone does it then its lame

>>713119896
Nigger, just stop, nobody liked dmc2 because its shit and almost killed the IP

>>713120058
Get Master Collection for S1, S2 (which 2B is based on) and 3RE and emulate vanilla 2.

>>713120483
how about you stop hyperboling about a fucking mediocre game acting like it's the end of the world

>>713119014
>>713119896
>blud unironically defends dmc2 :skull: fr fr
L

>>713120721
im not defending it, i'm just saying treating it as the worst game of all time or anything more than mediocre is just bullshit blazing. but what can I say you fucking monkeys will just chill whatever max says or whatever his name is uh richard bob will? whatever the fuck you guys stroke your dick on

>>713109881
>"Dante can do everything Nero can but better"
Whatever you say.

Got a Series X for NG2. The enhancements make it way better than playing on Xenia.

>>713119014
>you guys are acting like it wasn't a generic action game.
here's 10 games that were out at the time or within a year that run circles around dmc2
>shinobi
>ninja gaiden
>viewtiful joe
>gungrave
>zone of the enders 2
>bloodrayne 1 and 2
>rygar
>blood will tell
>castlevania lament of innocence
>van hellsing the movie tie in game which is unironically a truer sequel to dmc1 then its actual sequel to the point it's almost a ripoff

and then of course in current year you have tons of indie/low budget games that have come out that are blatantly inspired by devil may cry that also play way better then dmc2, but even if dmc2 was just a "generic action game" it would be the generic action game sequel to a really cool action game that inspired tons of devs for years to come to the point the god of war guys actively say they made their game "devil may cry but easy and more cinematic" so it would have some serious hype backlash. do you really not get this? I wouldn't take the bait if you weren't posting about this shit for hours in this thread

>>713122271
okay AND? my god it's been like decades now and you're STILL fucking seething over some fucking jank game?

>>713121007
It's not the absolute worst game of all time, but it is way bellow any other product of comparable popularity.

DMC2 is a huge blemish on the series in ways people don't usually understand. The rest of the series was pretty much built around trying to fix the giant fuck-up it represents.

>>713121765
if dante wants to tell an encounter to go fuck itself he can just SDT and press the "kill everyone in 5 miles" button after erasing the few enemies that can survive it with his fucking instant kill any enemy button, or use huge king cerberus aoe lightning to stun the entire room, or make himself literally invincible in multiple ways, or pay orbs to tell the encounter to go fuck itself even harder but you're right that this and missile surfing are the two things dante doesn't literally have a version of

>>713122425
yeah and I don't see this many people have a RAGING FUCKING HARD ON FOR SF3 or RE6 EITHER

>>713121007
>just chill whatever max says or whatever his name is uh richard bob will?
Blud just went full schizo ong

>>713122568
> I don't see this many people have a RAGING FUCKING HARD ON FOR SF3
you don't play fighting games lol

>>713122568
SF3 and RE6 have legitimately good aspects about it, even if they're flawed and had backlash on their time. DMC2 is a demo stretched for two PS2 game discs; the game is barely even there.

You want to compare it to MMX7 or DC3.

>>713106632 (OP)
name a worse genre's name

>>713119896
>>713119014
>cries about culture
>immediately calls someone an ape
Lmao. What a hypocrite. Is this what normies are like?

>>713122336
Why are you defending some old trash to anyone that will listen?

>>713122525
That's a whole lotta words to say he can do a lot of things that aren't timestop.

>>713120245
Everyone already DOES do it, dumb newnigger.

>>713121765
>>713122827
Show me where Nero has a natural ability to stop time.

>>713120058
Master collection and get sigma 1 black and sigma 2 black/nm mods

>>713122568
>SF3
LOOOOOOOOOOOL LOOK AT THIS DUMB FAGGOT HOLY SHIT
>>713121007
>bullshit blazing
AND IT'S A STRIVER? HOLY FUCK LOL, I have every reason to NOT take you seriously

>>713122714
actually yeah MMX7 and DC3 is probably closest yeah but jesus fuck what's with people having a melty over a mediocre game

>>713123019
I'm so tired of the whole Nero vs. Dante discussion, man.

It's literally impossible to win it. If Nero isn't absolutely better than Dante he's not good enough. If he is he's stealing his show. If he Dante can do what Nero can then there's no point for Nero to be there. If Nero can do things Dante can't then it's unfair.

People putting forth this argument are never going to be satisfied because they just don't like Nero, so I'd rather just you say that and be over with it. I'd rather just agree to disagree rather than keep going for circles for the next half decade until DMC6 comes out while Vergil is sitting there twiddling his thumbs having even less "reasons" to exist besides being cool and badass.

>>713123380
>ask for simple proof
>responds with an entire meaningless double spaced redditor paragraph
Yeah, we're done here. Dante clears btw. I accept your concession.

i beat dmc3 for the first time
it was good

>>713123510
>moves the goalpost
>"b-but where the proof"
Embarrassing.

>>713109992
It's got all the good ideas but didn't do them well at all. My thumb hurt after playing DMC2 because every boss is a floating thing that you can only really do damage to by shooting it.

I like ruining people's time in nioh 2

>>713123732
>no argument
I accept your concession.

>>713123972
It's a logical fallacy, kiddo, it's not a valid argument.

>>713124132
>admits to having a bad argument
I accept your concession.

>>713123794
Keep your flaming pots to yourself

>>713111645
>Chaos Legion
Nice. Never heard of this one.
I wish this genre had an actual name. I'm always on the lookout for obscure third person hack'n'slash/character action/3d beat'em'ups games but it feels impossible to find because no one categorizes them properly.

>>713124227
Bruh.

>>713117027
>DMC4 on Xbox
That's the problem. Ng2 is exclusive so that number is accurate thougheverbeit.

>>713123380
>nero is a mistake no matter how he's implemented
we know. there's a reason that gacha collab only has dante and vergil

have another one

>>713113713
>>713113913
>Rachel in Sigma
She is pretty fun to play, has a solid moveset. The issue is that her campaign levels are lazy and boring. But she is pretty darn fun in Survival and Ninja Trials
>Rachel in Sigma 2
She feels gimped compared Sigma 1, idk, i just don't like her.
>Momiji in S2
Fun, very fun. She has an Aerial UT gimmick that is very fun to chain.
>Ayane in S2
Sucks massive balls. Her gimmick is that you delimb your enemies and then execute them. HER UT CAN'T FUCKING KILL. And her chapter is aids.
>Ayane in RE
Pretty fun, quick and snappy.
Didn't bother trying Momiji or Kasumi in RE. I still have mixed feelings on that game still better than Sigma 2

>>713124905
for you man >>713124603

>>713109708
It's safe horny

>>713123646
Glad you enjoyed the tutorial.
Now get to work, DMD won't unlock itself.

>>713124603
>no one categorizes them properly.
Action games. Simple as.

>>713110823
Yes DmC plays much better for people who don't have hundreds of hours in DMC games but nobody wants to accept that because they're too busy larping as hardcore gaymerz.

>character action
is this dmcsissies thread?

>>713117027
>comparing hd collection rerelease to xbox 360 game
all xbone/xsex games have much lower achievement completion averages compared to xbox 360 games because people buy games more and play them less on average

>>713124951
what is the point of the pelulu tail?

You will obtain a switch emulator and emulate Astral Chain, no questions asked

>>713122271
how could you forget WHOLE RUBBER

>>713125279
There's some shitter defending DMC2 with his life for some reason, so I guess it is.

>>713125469
Summon-based is somehow even worse than parry-based combat. Don't get the appeal of it at all.

>>713125327
true but wasn't that his point though? with re-releases and gamepass and different platforms achievement % just isn't an accurate measure of difficulty

>>713124831
>nero is a mistake
Whatever you say.

>>713111765
Ninja Gaiden 4

>>713125469
I did that, and regretted it. Astral Chain is genuinely terrible. Get better taste you nigger.

>>713125627
I suppose. I was just mildly miffed he didn't use the Xbox 360 version of DMC4's achievement for the comparison.

I have found the pic I sought in my folder

>>713126024
What were they thinking with V? What is this mind virus that action game devs have where they absolutely MUST make a shitty new character for you to play instead of your established hero. Nintendo has be using Mario and Link for decades and nobody is tired of them. Do they not see this?

ninja gayden 4 will be such a huge flop that this genre will die forever

>>713126404
Anon you must understand. This is literally the best CAG ever made!

>>713125469
A true 6/10 game that'd be a 5 if not for some great character designs/music that I regret buying for $45. Thankfully it was physical and I traded it to a friend for a monitor.

>>713125592
I think it can be done well, in fact while I think AC is really mediocre it does have some good ideas even if they are very surface-level in execution. Bayo 3's Demon Slaves actually have a lot going on under the hood but little in the way of forcing you to engage with it when just doing AoEs or simple strings while Cereza is in the corner nets you a ton of damage and score since every single Slave attack counts as a Weave (an insane oversight) and Magic is way too freely doled out.

>>713126404
>Nintendo has be using Mario and Link for decades and nobody is tired of them.
And Donkey Kong, and Peach, and Bowser, and Wario, and Toad, and... There's a bunch of Mario games where you can play as characters besides him and his brother and there are entire spin-offs for some of those characters.

>>713111765
Most action games use either a time slow dodge, a parry, or Souls rolls these days.

>>713114996
You can definitely hear it in some boss tracks. That said I would've preferred more polish on the weapon drops, a Nova Prime superboss, and maybe one more level location than what's in the final game.

>>713126787
It truly is and one of the major reasons it is is the multiple characters.

>>713126024
even chinese gacha players, the exact demographic that should like nero over dante, prefer old man dante (and vergil the king of ebin tiktok memes) because the entire plot of dmc5 is about the two of them except for 30 seconds at the end where nero gets an epic powerup and is instantly knocked on his ass while dante and vergil go into hell to resolve the problem permanently. you don't honestly think it was nero pushing those 10 million sales do you? how many random streamers and vtubers played dmc3 on normal because of the netflix show, a game that doesn't feature nero at all?

>>713116247
3 is better than 2 but worse than 1 IMO, how you feel about it will likely depend on why you hated 2. 3 has more interesting and deep weapon movesets than 2 as well as better bosses and better Witch Trials at the end, but the visuals/story/music/pacing are all downgrades, the scoring system is less strict on time but easier to max out Score due to Slaves, the new enemies are pretty meh overall, and Viola is a pretty different gameplay style from Cereza with some enemies definitely not being built around her gameplan (whereas Rosa was optional and could easily play the same game as Bayo & Jeanne and Balder/Rodin were just a bonus in Tag Climax).

>>713127256
>chinese gacha players, the exact demographic that should like nero over dante
The fuck are you on?

I've been experimenting with NG3RE's weapons lately and I think the Scythe is really fun (and broken as fuck) in this game. I like it much better than II's Scythe, which was always my least favorite weapon in that game. Still don't really like most of the other weapons, though. The Sword and the Scythe are just the only ones I find fun.

>>713124969
Thanks. Added to the list.

>>713125118
No. Action games is a really broad term nowadays that would likely include stuff like FFXVI, E33, Hades and FPSes too

>>713127509
the actual characters of punishing grey raven are a bunch of edgy young adults with power armor and a variety of swords/guns, nero with his robot hand and bad attitude fits in way more then wacky depressed homeless uncle dante and yet nero is such a charisma vaccum the devs actively excluded him

Yakumo already looks better than Nero to me.
>Multiple weapons in his first outing. Said weapons can transform when using Bloodraven form, giving a different moveset
>Can swing around by grappling and can run up walls like Dante's trickster in 3
Devil Breakers fucking sucked, and you couldn't switch between them. You had to automatically break one to use another one.

What are the implications of this? Could it be a Mari0 64 reference?

I'll never understand how Astral Chain didn't get a PC release.

>>713127256
>the entire plot of dmc5 is about the two of them
This again? Dante is almost a plot device in 5. The game is mostly about Vergil.

>you don't honestly think it was nero pushing those 10 million sales do you?
By himself? No. But he's one of the reasons the game is as good as it is. There's constant complaining about Nero but he's literally never hindered the franchise in any way. If Nero wasn't in the next game people would be sad he's missing and they'd be happy if he returns later, just like people are happy when characters from SF3 return, to give an example.

>a game that doesn't feature nero at all?
Yeah and the anime massively misrepresented the franchise. DmC also didn't feature Nero at all and it didn't stop it from sucking as well.

All the ass versions of DMC have Dante and no Nero actually. The worst of them all has Dante and no Vergil to boot. But it's all those other characters that are the problem and we should return to the golden age of Dante-only games. Because that would add... something?

>>713127965
NIntendo owns the rights to the game. Same with Bayonetta 2 and Bayonetta 3.which only exist because of Nintendo.

>>713127965
Nintendo codepeveloped it.
Or something like that, i know they own the IP since platinum sold it to them.

>>713127698
E33 is an RPG, dumbass.

>>713128109
>rpg
your choices are: changing outfits, slotting gems into your lumina shit, sexing either woman, the ending choice

it's character action for sure

>>713128069
>>713128079
Bayonetta I get unfortunately (though I still shit on Nintendo not letting Pt release them on other platforms as well ), but Astral Chain is a bit closer to Wonderful 101 I thought; maybe all we need is a self-published remaster of Astral Chain with new content to bring it to PC?

Also as it hasn't been discussed much
>Hi-Fi Rush
was underrated for a character action or stylish action or whatever the fuck you want to call it. I like there's content you can't unlock until NG+ that changes the story and other shit.

>>713106632 (OP)
Tried playing through Bayo 3. I really can't into it, the puzzles and challenges are so boring and the main combat is a cluster fuck. I'm playing through Garden Black 2 instead and am having a blast

>>713127731
>he thinks collaborations are based on what fits in-universe
Bro just be thankful the PGR staff actually likes DMC so they did Dante and Vergil right instead of looking like they were from the actual DMC gacha.

>>713128056
>dmc2 means that a game with only dante in it is automatically bad
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

>>713128235
It's still a turn-based game even if the active inputs are more effective than your strategy. Might as well say Project X Zone 2 counts because you do long combos when you attack, or hell even Paper Mario TTYD since one of the most popular builds is perfectly guarding as much as possible while Badgemaxxing and never investing levels into HP.

>>713127061
>That said I would've preferred more polish on the weapon drops
I kind of wish weapon drops weren't a thing at all. You eventually get to a point where it doesn't matter anymore, but I do still dislike the system. As for the other things, yeah, those would be cool, especially the Nova Prime superboss.

>>713127965
Because it's shit? Just a thought.

>>713128304
HFR is wonderful even if the assists became pretty all-consuming in terms of both being needed to open up some enemies and being extremely powerful when on offense otherwise (though I love W101 and half of those enemies want you to be using certain Morphs too).

>>713128380
Not only did I not say that, DMC2 has second playable character as well.

DMC1 is literally the only game in the franchise where only Dante is playable. Almost like having more characters is an easy way to implement spins on the same type of gameplay and try out new ideas.

>>713106632 (OP)
Can we talk about the Lies of P DLC? The final boss was sooooo hype bros

>>713128235
You're a bit stupid, aren't you?

>>713128463
>Project X Zone 2 counts because you do long combos when you attack
I'm fine with that

>>713128559
I appreciate the level of variety they provide, at least in terms of having different weapons that are available to multiple characters and all the ranged weapon options, but the granularity it can get to is definitely annoying when you can't sort or delete them quickly. It's not as bad as Nioh and its ilk in terms of dumping loot on you but even then I loved SoP despite the lootvomit

>>713128707
The game is based and underrated due to both of its prequels being boring slogs but it's still an SRPG at the end of the day, even if there's actually a level of depth to optimizing your combos with capture states, Cross Break maximizing, and Red Mirage Cancels.

>>713128235
Doofus.

>>713128650
imagine getting this triggered over a \n

lol.

>>713128941
Oh, you're a schizo. I have no reason to take you seriously then. Goodbye.

I've not played DMCV yet - is the version on Steam (the Deluxe version anyway) the most feature complete or is there exclusive content on some god awful console somewhere for asinine reasons?

>>713128235
>action
>it's turn based
This board is so fucking stupid, man.

>>713129072
Exclusive stuff on console. Just buy it on PS4.

>>713129072
LDK and turbo are limited to the SE on current consoles because Sony had no exclusives to sell with the PS5's launch.

>>713129072
Deviil May Cry 5 Special Edition (PS5, X Series) is the only one with turbo mode, ray tracying, and legendary dark knight mode. You should still get it on PC because you can just use a trainer to get Legendary Dark Knight enemy waves, and boost the game by any speed you want (turbo mode is 20% faster). Not to mention mods.

>>713128708
>delete them quickly
Yeah, having to delete them one by one every time I reach the inventory limit (which happens pretty much every time I play a couple of challenge missions) is really annoying and it's probably the thing I dislike the most about the system. I wouldn't mind it as much if it weren't for that.

>tanked an entire nu-adel bite and lived as revenant
huh?? I didn't even take that many defensive passives
I had a +19 lightning negation item and I think I took one phys negation but that was it

>>713129158
>a single e33 shill is the whole board

go fuck yourself carl

yeah this thread just leaves me to believe dmc fanbase are a bunch of fucking drama kids who try to act tough. AWOOOOOOOOOO AND IM PREYING ON YOU TONIGHT

>>713129484
NGBuck or Bayotroon.

Call it.

>2023 had Hi-Fi Rush, Gravity Circuit, and En Garde
>2024 had Kunitsu-Gami, Magenta Horizon, and Shadow of the Ninja Reborn
>2025 has new 2D & 3D NGs (Ragebound is a clear winner, 4 is up in the air still), a version of NG2 that while still not Vanilla is "Sigma 2 but not shit", Captain Blood, and Absolum
>The future has more pretty fun-looking games as well, mostly from indies but there's a chance Romeo Is A Dead Man or the new Onimusha deliver
Feels good man

>>713129564
I'm gonna shoot for the hidden third option of "Gooner Blade" Simp, Michael.

Today, I beat NG3RE on UN without buying the healing lifebar extenders from the shop and without skipping a single fight. It was somehow easier than my previous run, outside of a few encounters which were much MUCH harder. Beating those 3 purple whores on Day7 took me 2 fucking hours, and it was absolute suffering, and yet it was also absolute heaven. You die and get back into the next attempt so fast in this game, it's incredible. I love Razor's Edge so fucking much.

>>713106632 (OP)
Are his games character action?

>>713129617
Somehow forgot to type "new Shinobi" while attaching a Shinobi image.

>>713129863
They are action games. Some of them are good, some aren't. Sands of Time gets the most out of a simple system I'd say. Lost Crown apparently had some fun stuff going on but I don't touch Metroidvanias usually.

>>713129267

Good to know thanks. What's Legendary Dark Knight? is it just difficulty/enemy waves or is there actual new content? Sounds like its annoyign there is anything exclusive to console versions. fuck this shit, butI'd rather get the PC version if its close and as you said, can mod in the missing stuff if necessary

>>713129874
Reviewers and people who got to play early like the new Shinobi. The old guard, however, isn't happy with it here or on reddit, and just wanted the game to be like Shinobi 3. So I guess it'll be divisive in the end.

>>713129701
>Today, I beat NG3RE on UN
Why would they call the difficulty "ultra nigga"

>>713129701
>buying the healing lifebar extenders from the shop and without skipping a single fight. It was somehow easier than my previous run
I envy your ability to like RE as much as you do. I can't imagine doing that shit, seriously, day 2 is the absolute bottom of the game for me with those helicopters.

>>713129701
>Beating those 3 purple whores on Day7 took me 2 fucking hours
How? Spamming UTs with the Lunar kind of trivializes that fight. Were you not relying on tactics like that or something?

>>713130005
In DMC4 (PC and DMC4SE) and DMC5SE, Legendary Dark Knight gives 4 times enemy waves, but lowers the enemy health. So, it basically turns the game into a musou/warriors game. The title legendary dark knight is based off Sparda's title, and how he fought the Underworld army solo.

>>713130005
LDK is the Sons of Sparda difficulty (in terms of damage numbers) but with way more enemies on screen. I think its three times as many. PC mods let you go beyond three times but it does have a weird caveat for mission 07's boss. LDK is very fun but more of a bonus mode. It is annoying Capcom shafted PC but at the same time it lit a fire under the modder's ass to go all out and make better stuff.

>>713129701
Based and congrats. It really is a fantastic experience when you get into the zone, and everything about the game actually wants to get you into it too.

>>713129701
Congrats. Does that include ToVs too? What weapons and ninpo were you using? I replayed UN earlier this year but might do it again with the HP restrictions down the line, still have shit to do in NGB and Vanilla 2

>>713129972
All 3 are very good games in the trilogy imo
The combat in Sands of Time was actually really cinematic thanks to the insane amount of animations, their quality and fluidity, so the sorta basic combat still came across as very satisfying
Plenty of tech that is not told thru tutorials anywhere adds lots of options for encounters, even after tens of hours I learned something new from speedrun vids I could only trigger on accident before that
Warrior Within improved the formula and we got a very in-depth system with some insane stylish combos on par with any of the games in the op
What makes them not necessarily character action, and 'just' action games?
Fuck lost crown, won't be touching that shit

play Eve's game.

>>713130087
It's spelled nigger, you disgusting creature, now go back to picking cotton

thoughts?

>>713126928
Good, keep them in their own game.

>>713130907
It plays somewhat like nioh, right?
Kinda want to, but eh, don't have a pc that can run it.
Also lol'd during the nikke event where eve and scarlet met and were like "have we met before? do you want to duke it out?"

>>713127685
You don't like kusarigama? I didn't really start having fun in 3RE until getting that.

>>713130079
I love Shinobi 3DS which definitely deviates from 3 in some ways but is also in many ways the sequel to it that some people want out of the new one so I'll be fine with a new take if it's good on its own.

>>713130957
What the fuck is a "stice"?

>>713131140
it's not nearly as complex as Nioh, i haven't played MGR but i see it compared to that a lot. the parrying is close to Sekiro but there's actual combos and overall the combat doesn't feel very close to it
i thoroughly loved the gameplay, and the OST is one of the best in years. Eve being hot only adds to what is already good. of course NG/DMC fags will complain about it but that's pretty standard

>>713130769
Lost Crown is actually pretty fun, and the main villain goes full Vergil iaijutsu on you.

>>713106632 (OP)
There are exactly 4 types of Real Video Game. Platformer, Action, FPS, Vehicle. Everything else is some kind of sloppa
>Open world survival craft
Autism fidget sloppa
>spreadsheet games
Turbo autism sloppa
>Job Simulator
Boomer autism sloppa
>gacha
lootbox porn sloppa
>JRPGs
nacrolepsy sloppa
>visual novels
book sloppa

Etc etc etc. Character action games are the Kino Peak of video games that rises about the gray morass of sovlless, shallow pornsloppa, fidget spinner games, graphics whoring, and industry key jangling

And faggots like this >>713107895 want to ruin it by making it gynocentric. Females delenda est.

>>713130159
The helicopters are really rough, but planning your ki and either slowdown aiming or just winging it with regular bow shots gets my blood pumping.

>>713130502
Thanks! It really is a thing of beauty when everything clicks into place.

>>713130170
I only use the dragon sword, except for the first phase of the final boss this time around, since that part is already incredibly taxing, I decided to preserve some of my sanity and use the lunar there.

>>713130564
Appreciated! No, ToV's are next on my list, I still need to do those and around 40% of the ninja trials. I too have unfinished business in Black and II, I still need to wrap up Eternal Legend and some fiend challenges. In II a few more ToVs. Once I'm done with that, I'll feel like I've finally become a master ninja. And then I'll go back to beat all three games with more restrictions and try to eliminate all the remaining "cheese". I almost always only use the dragon sword, and I alternate between the regular inferno and the true inferno, only ever using the void once on the helicopter boss.

>>713128109
I know, illiterate faggot. The problem is when journos and other dumbasses classify it as an action game.

>>713107895
>WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH MY GAME ISN'T WALL TO WALL FEMALES I NEED MY HEKKIN GYNOCENTRISM ANITA SARKEESIAN DEMANDS IT DAMNIT!

>>713130910
>random seethe out of nowhere
Somebody come get their honky, cuz they actin' wonky.
>>713131331
You being serious right now nigga?

>>713131245
I think it feels really weird to use compared to 2's iteration of the weapon and I don't really like it. Same reason why I don't like the Claws or the Lunar Staff in 3RE. I know 3RE is its own game, and complaining about the weapons working differently from how they did in 2 is rather silly, but I just don't care for most of the changes.

>>713131936
>somehow thinks the opinions of retards like himself and normies mean anything
Retard.

>>713131914
The helicopters aren't so bad but particularly by the time you get to UN I think you really have to have the bow cancels down (both the hold forward and drop aim after each shot one, and the dodge cancel after each shot one), once you do they're way smoother to handle and it especially helps on the Day 2 boss.

>>713111765
NieR Automata has a "chip" you can install for that effect on dodges. A high level one is OP AF.

>>713131914
Very nice. I'd definitely do the trials first just to learn the bosses, otherwise ToVs risk becoming an exercise in insanity. Got pretty much the same stuff in Black and II as you, I already did the fiend challenges in Sigma and I am curious to see how much of a torture the final two will be in NGB

>>713129617
Sigma 2 Remake is complete fucking garbage. Saying it's the best version of Sigma 2 is saying nothing at all when vanilla still exists and still hasn't been ported everywhere.

>>713131741
>>713131942
Only faggots and SJWs are against hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits

>>713134309
Based and estrogenpilled. The whole point of character action is to be flashy and over-the-top, why the hell wouldn't you crank the fanservice dial up too? If you want beige-faced realism and tactical modesty, go play Spec Ops or something. Let the coom flow, my brother.

>>713131331
Bro you know damn well he meant "solstice" but had a stroke mid-post. Either that or he’s trying to coin some new urban gamer lingo like “stice hits diff fr fr” and just hoped it’d catch on.

i wish this was a thing

>>713132548
I think I might have done the dodgecancel one, but haven't done the hold forward one yet, I saw it on somebody's stream, but I wasn't able to replicate it. Do I hold forward when I release the arrow and release the aim button at the same time? Or are there any other specifics I need to know to get it down?

>>713133535
Hadn't thought of that, I'll definately go for the ninja trials then, thanks! Impressive clearing the last two fiend challenges in sigma, I've only tried the vigoorian berserker one a couple of times and didn't get past 15 kills with the ds, I'm thinking I probably have to use another weapon there. What weapon did you use?

>>713134785
trickster on circle?

>>713135341
right shoulder. i want there to be different melee attacks like stingers that are usable while dashing.
been thinking about it for a while actually

>>713134869
In Sigma I had to pull out the lunar and just counter-attack them with some occassional UTs during their phase transition, anything else was too dangerous due to off-screen mines. They don't do that in Black so I'll use either Dabi or DS, or maybe Kitetsu if the health drain works on them

>>713135640
>They don't do that in Black
Oh and most of their attacks guardbreak you so theLunar strat is obviously off the table for that reason alone

>>713134869
Simply hold the left stick, say, to the right, and keep spamming aim > shoot > aim > shoot without ever letting go of the stick. It’s pretty easy.

The best bosses in NG are all other ninja/samurai/swordsman. Big bosses are always lame shit where you hit the big guy's shins and wait for his slam attack. We get a hint of that in the NG4 trailer (Yakumo vs Ryu) but I hope it's not the only instance of it. Also copium but I think you'll be able to do that fight as both Yakumo and as Ryu.

>>713134869
Just hold forward the entire time, aim and fire, then let go of aim and immediately hold it again to fire the next shot. It's actually really simple in action with the timing being what you finetune, you can practice it whenever but focus on aiming just long enough to get the shot off and make sure you actually shoot, the more you do it the faster you get at it until you're dumping arrows out at crazy speeds.

Also since you're asking about the Sigma berserker challenge I can weigh in on that too. The overall best strat is to use Lunar counterattacks. If essence from the last one you killed is around then UT them when they powerup and it finishes them off right away, just make sure you position right to stay out of range of their flame. Fire Wheels is a very good Ninpo to use since it does good damage alongside the counters, you can use it to fill the gaps and speed up kills when you can't UT. Keep the others offscreen as much as possible so you just have to worry about the landmines, you can iframe through them with counters too but play it safe when you hear/see them coming. The fight's all about positioning and endurance.

>>713106632 (OP)
>DMC1
Really bad movement and targeting. Decent for one playthrough but never again.
>DMC2
Complete trash. Was it even playtested? Everyone who worked on it should seppuku.
>DMC3
A lot of awful enemy and boss designs ruin the otherwise good gameplay.
>DMC4
Dogshit campaign that you have to play backwards halfway through. Rushed garbage.
>DMC5
Playing V is garbage and ruins the game. Also ugly as sin art direction.

>NG1
Good gameplay, good enemies, but game is ruined by a few awful levels with dogshit platforming or swimming gimmicks. Sigma version is dogshit because of forced femoid sections.
>NG2
God tier. Great game with no nonsense. Sigma/Black version is dogshit because of forced femoid sections and ruined gameplay.
>NG3/RE
Simply feels like shit to play. Garbage.

>Bayo1
Good game but ruined by retarded level design. Has stupid gimmicks like DMC1 but not as much.
>Bayo2
Nintendo slop.
>Bayo3
Nintendo slop.

Is there even a SINGLE one of these that are as good as original NG2?

>>713136095
>NG2: Great game with no nonsense
>Awful swimming sections still there
>Awful bow sections still there
>Bosses are even worse than the first game
>Tons of shit enemies like the worms and zombies
>Game devolves into nothing but iframe spam to deal with the cancerous amount of projectile spam by enemies on higher difficulties
How did NG2 niggers become so delusional?

>>713135868
Well the IGN footage did show the bits of the DDO Samurai bossfight and it was ok.
>Also copium but I think you'll be able to do that fight as both Yakumo and as Ryu.
CC better be in so I can fight them both with their respective characters.

>>713136502
I can forgive it because it's not as bad as other games and the rest of the game is so good. If you can name some games that are better then I'll be happy to play them.

>>713135640
Interesting, I'll try it in black first then, and if I don't want to blow my brains out after that, I'll do sigma as well.

>>713135825
Holy shit that's it!? Much appreciated, I'll give it a whirl next time.

>>713135876
Also very appreciated, I was using the inazuma ninpo to even get to 15, and there's like 120 iirc, so I'm interested in seeing how fire wheels play out.

>>713136095
>Is there even a SINGLE one of these that are as good as original NG2?
Transformers Devastation and I'm not even joking. Still, your post isn't totally right about certain things. I get what you mean by saying that NG2 has no nonsense, but that's not really true. There's the entirety of the jungle chapter which is nothing but nonsense with the mechs, the jellyfish mines, the puke-green tunnel with bugs, the blood fish, the zombies, the worms, the giant death worm boss, and the Twin Dragons. Still, you're right that NG2 doesn’t have “nonsense” in the sense of wasting your time with adventure elements or padding. It’s pure, combat-focused gameplay from start to finish, which I do like.

>>713136771
Not him but Resident Evil 4

>>713136502
>How did NG2 niggers become so delusional?
I wonder the same. They'll see the light after clearing MN.

>>713136095
>NG3/RE simply feels shit to play. Garbage.
How far did you play? Tell me you at least beat it.

Started the no health run earlier than expected.
Bought Guillotine Throw instead of Cicada Surge (both are 100k)

I like these. Nero`z sord goe vroom vrom

>>713125469
They should've stuck with the original design and made it more pokemon like. 5 summons with 2 moves each is way too limited and predictable, you basically have a macro set up by the end.

>>713137724
I wouldn't call crisis core a cuhrazy game

>>713136095
>NG2
>no nonsense

>>713106632 (OP)
>Character Action thread
Dumbest name, all because the hubris of Ninja Gaiden fags don't want their series of games to be labelled hack n' slash.

>>713138075
>I wouldn't call crisis core a cuhrazy game
What do you call this then??

>>713137657
Niiiice, how's GT working out for you? I just realised I've never used it in 3 so I have no idea if it's good. I'm a bit slow, I didn't get around to using cicada surge until my 5th playthrough (neede it to survive the fight on the slowly breaking ice on day6) but now that I have, I'll never go without again. The Cliff fight was so much more fun not getting raped by his grab while doing my strings. An absolute game changer.

>>713136502
I actually like iframing. It's not like there's a souls dodgeroll button, you still have to learn the mechanics of the game to be able to avoid all that damage and initiate the chain of UTs and OTs that let you survive without getting stunlocked by explosions. But I can see why people think it's more like action puzzle gameplay and not free form enough for their taste.

>>713116247
Does shipping matter on your end? Because some people were absolutely broken by 3 not making their ship canon.

>>713138245
>all because the hubris of Ninja Gaiden fags don't want their series of games to be labelled hack n' slash
No, what? Some people were against the term "hack 'n slash" because it was already used to describe games like Diablo. Others didn’t like it because not all action games are about hacking or slashing. I don't know where you got what you said from.

>>713138245
the term was literally popularized by ecelebs who were into dmc

>>713107895
>>713109483
go back to senran kagura or some dogshit

>>713109992
I played DMC2 for the first time recently, being open minded and thinking that maybe other people are exaggerating how bad it is. They didn't exaggerate, it's probably one of the most unfinished games I've played. I must have been confused 80-90% of the time about what was happening since the game kept jumping everywhere, suddenly teleporting into a cave with a moth boss, kill him and acting like it never happened, learning the girl was kidnapped only the instant I teleported into the bad guy's base somehow, then acting like we'll somehow find a way to get in even though the game just skip-cutscene-teleported me in there, only to then get randomly mindfucked by 3 floating heads boss, kill him and Dante acts like it never happened, somehow learning the girl was a demon begging for forgiveness from something I have no clue about and only learning that at the end. People did exaggerate the infested tanks and helicopter however, they only appeared once in the game.

>>713139280
the main thing that justifies DMC2's reputation is just how shitty dante feels to control, the way he kinda glides into position for each hit of a combo string feels weird as fuck and for how busted they are the guns have 0 impact - also whoever decided the already bad camera needs to zoom closer when enemies spawn when most of the enemies are flying shitheads that play keepaway deserves to get stabbed

if they had just taken the dmc1 engine and made some new bad levels for it it would be a pretty ok game, but instead they went that extra distance for reasons I'll never understand. surely they didn't just throw the entire dmc1 assets in the trash instantly after release right? they had to consciously choose to not use any of it despite iterative sequels being capcoms entire thing

>>713138229
NG2 'fans' out themselves yet again

>>713136803
Both Inazuma and Inferno don't really have enough damage to be used in the way you'd normally expect and want from them. Fire Wheels isn't huge damage but it lasts long enough to notably speed up the kills on a few while still being a good iframe panic button without needing to wait around like the others.
>>713137657
Nice, best of luck. GT is pretty handy early on as a high damage delimb on the Alchemists if you have a wall, I think unless you're going for the ToV you can put off Cicada Surge for at least a little while considering the cost but of course it's always good to have.

>>713138282
Gacha

Best action game in years. Perfectly balances enemies fucking mauling you if you slip up and your options being completely reasonable to handle all of that once you have a grasp on them, while not retreading the same ground as anything else out there.

>>713139802
His sword swings did feel more "static" than in DMC1, when I played it right after. I heard DMC2 was made by the arcade section of Capcom instead of the DMC1 team.

>>713138591
>>713139204
Because God of War back then had the label of hack n' slash and the 'cool kids' who were playing DMC and NG saw GOW's combat as beneath them.

>>713127889
Yakumo is basically Platinum's Magnum Opus. He doesn't seem to have any ranged weapon though.

>>713139802
>surely they didn't just throw the entire dmc1 assets in the trash
Ironically enough you can unlock Trish in DMC2 and she plays exactly like DMC1 Dante.

>>713139968
>revisionist bullshit
You need to be over 18 to post here.

is assault spy worth my time or should i just replay dmc3?

>>713138350
GT is good and underrated, it saves a lot of trouble in Day 1 against alchemists and tac ninjas, especially the multirocket mofo. It's not a guaranteed delimb like it was in vanilla 2 but the rate is still high, and when enemies don't lose their arm you can launch them while they are recovering from wallsplat (there are some exceptions). Just don't use it heads on as most will dodge it, the best opportunity is during guardbreaks. It also doesn't work on enemies with any sort of armor (like dagger cops and invisible tonfa guys) until you break it so keep that in mind.
Cicada is probably my favorite addition to 3RE and I am glad it's back in 4, I keep finding more ways to utilize it. Been looking forward to the double spider fight since I found about webmrelated

>>713140117
There's nothing revisionist about it, it's literally the arguments I came across when I called DMC and NG hack n' slash games.

Tell you what anon. Start calling DMC and NG hack 'n slash games from now on and see faggots argue against to term for whatever bullshit of the day they come up with.

>>713106632 (OP)
>character action
Gay term

They're called slashers

>>713109142
Fox die remember?

>>713140387
I know. I'm waiting for the inevitable 'Character Creator Action' game.

If your Character Action doesn't have Mission Rankings like these two God tier entries then it's just middleware slop like Bujingai & NG

>>713140339
nigga went from blaming NG, to blaming god of war, and now to blaming dmc and NG

>>713140571
NG has mission rankings, though.

>>713109142
He was genetically engineered to age rapidly when he reached a certain point in his age. He's basically like the replicants from Blade Runner, where most only have a lifespan of six years.

>>713140629
Seriously, start calling DMC and NG hack n' slash games. It's the best descriptor of their gameplay.

>>713138282
A janky ARPG, and not even one worth discussing in these threads, like Kh2fm or Neo TWEWY

>>713139838
Yeah just gave it a go and I felt very lost without CS. Next time I replay I might just not buy wind path since I haven't used it much this time around, that way I'd have enough for both GT and CS

>>713136502
They are posers.

>>713140872
>*Hack & slashes in youre path*
Haters gonna hate.

>>713140824
DMC doesn't even have dismemberment

>>713141663
Your character hacks and slashes in DMC.

Nah GT absolutely cooks these bozos

>>713141242
ok that's cringekino

>>713141794
He certainly slashes, but he does not hack. Hacking is to dismember. DMC has no dismemberment so it cannot be a hack and slash game.

Prototype is a character action game.
>collect red orbs
>unlock combo moves with said orbs
>air juggling niggas
>style switcher
>emphasis on player expression
>bornze silver gold and PLATINUM medals for challenges

>>713142171
Gran turismo?

>>713142467
Hack 'n Slash an umbrella term. Perhaps Smash 'n Slash would appease you?

Every game is a character action game.
>Have a game
>have a character
>character does an action
HOLY FUCK WHAT A SMART NAMING CONVENTION YOU STUPID FAGGOTS

>>713140484
Personally I'm a big fan of "Japanese Action Violence" games, or JAV games, for short.

>>713127385
Well, yeah, I didn't like 2 because of the visuals/story/parappatherapperbrat/pacing but you are telling me it gets shittier? Also the combo felt more streamlined an more boring in 2.

playing dmc5 with dante only is pretty interesting because if you're decent at the game you get enough orbs to mostly max out your starting gear by the end of mission 12 and then you start getting new items so it actually works out

>>713139264
>go back to senran kagura or some dogshit

>>713106632 (OP)
If we call these games Character Action instead of J Action

Why don't we call them Character RPGs instead of JRPGs?

>>713142806
You should gain some character and perform actions that would get you some bitches instead, faggot.

>>713143204
that's funny, just a few years ago people made of you weebs for acting like a faggot playing faggot tranime games where you play as a woman

>>713142902
The levels are larger to accommodate for Demon Slaves and Masquerade mobility options, the visuals/FPS on Switch 1 are kind of dicey but apparently it keeps to a pretty rock solid 60 on Switch 2, the story is genuinely nonsense multiverse wank with the most telegraphed "twist" of all time and somehow makes something teased since the first game feel like a cop-out. Viola & Jeanne also have separate chapters from Bayo, and Jeanne's are basically reused concepts from the 3DS Cutie J spinoff Kamiya once mentioned wanting to make (to the point where they have a separate credits roll).

>>713142467
Here's a list of alternatives:

Smash n' Slash
Mash n' Slash
Clash n' Slash
Slash n' Dash
Slash n' Gash
Lash n' Bash

>>713143204
>>713139264
Burst Renewal is a good game
Deep Crimson is a good game

>>713143446
What about slapdashed, since none of these fucking games are built with any sense of coherency

>>713143564
Sure. Slapdash can be added to the list.

>>713143443
I will emulate it to give it a chance then.

>>713143446
Slash em up

I think Sonic Adventure is Character Action too

This autism reminds me of "immersive sims". Still no clear definition of that genre other than "games that are kind of what Looking Glass used to make"

>>713143864
>Slash em up
We have a potential winner.

>>713143858
You might come out of it liking it more than 2 like I did. The weapons (both traditional and Slaves) are all really fun to mess around with, including the stuff you get right at endgame/postgame, and I do really think the boss lineup is really solid. 3's rival boss doesn't have the presentation of Jeanne or Lumen Sage but it does have better fights overall.

Is Oni allowed? It's not gamepad centric like most of these games, but it's curahzy enough in my opinion.

>>713143524
if it's so good, you'd play that instead of asking forced female missions on other games that nobody liked

>>713106632 (OP)
Ninja Gaiden Black is the greatest game in this category. It is one of the greatest games of all time despite the fact it will not be seen as such by most of the masses. This game has remained untouchable by the genre it seems and I can't see it ever being topped at this point with this bullshit gaming industry. Devs just do not know how to make a game as kino as this anymore. Itagaki has eternal bragging rights even if he hasn't done much of note since NG2.

Mission Rankings ==== Character Action

>>713144384
>Ninja Gaiden Black is the greatest game in this category
shut the fuck up

>>713131741
kys zoomgroid

>>713126404
New characters allow you to radically alter mechanics and playstyles while still having the safe option of the main hero. If Dante strays too far from established gamefeel, he stops being Dante.
Even with like DMC4, Nero plays relatively similar to Dante, but if they just gave Dante a demon arm with a grapple hook move and various grabs, I'd bet my kidney half the people here would be crying "Lame gimmick, I wanted another nunchaku". And then they'd have to decide whether to keep the arm going forward, at the potential expense of other mechanics like style switching, etc. And that's important; there's a button economy and DMC by this point is so dense with moves that it's difficult to fit in more gimmicks than Dante already has. (They can, however, expand on existing gimmicks; you can potentially give Dante 8 styles with the current setup and DMC3 on Switch proves he can have up to 10 weapons at once)
Also, if a character isn't well-received or their gimmick is too difficult to expand upon, they're easier to write out.
V's understandably polarizing, but I think ultimately I'd prefer they experiment and trying something fresh rather than risk stagnating. Like for DMC6, they should revamp Lady or add a wizard or some shit.
>Nintendo has be using Mario and Link for decades and nobody is tired of them.
Not the most apt comparison, since those series add radically different gimmicks on each entry to stay fresh, ie Zelda going from a dungeon crawl to a survival type game with BotW. If DMC6 went open world and added vehicles, how open would you be to that?

I just wish there was one more company making these games. Even just AA.

>>713145240
I kneel. Dmctards & Ngtards are united in their retardation that is brainlet mashing in the void

>gog now selling DMC 1-4
>my interest is piqued
>add to cart
>watch some hype combo videos to relive the memories
>remember getting blisters and hand cramps more than a decade ago
>remove from cart
>I'm starting to feel too old for some of this stuff.

I guess I'll stick to Dragon's Dogma and RE5
Didn't have problems with MG Rising though.
Does anyone else?

>>713140872
Reunion is Kino, better combat than 16

>>713144272
Oni as in Onimisha or the Bungie Oni?

>>713146851
Use mnk?

>>713109992
you zoomers are such shit eaters, sorry you grew up during the worst video game gen

>>713131741
Can't tell if masterfully crafted bait or actually that brain rotted

>>713146917
Bungie Oni. I was recently playing some Blade & Soul (a terrible korean MMO with great tits and an awesome combat system) and it reminded me of Oni and how nice it is to play a KBM-first action game. I understand that this genre is deeply associated with consoles and, as such, with gamepads. I wish we'd get more games like that in the genre, but oh well.
(I do also love Onimusha though)

>>713147063
Feels kind of wrong to me since it's not for aiming or even moving the camera. I've tried pure keyboard for DMC3 too, was kind of uncomfortable.

>>713144338
I'm not that anon

>>713147410
Nice, I really liked Oni too, the controls were pretty good and the ability to disarm enemies and take their guns (and vice versa) is something I don't think many games have managed to do as well.

Chinese God Hand (spirit x strike) is out as an early access, with a full release planned for next year, in case anyone cares to try it.

>>713145295
What's better in your opinion?

Oh shit! Chech it out out! *burps* Tiny Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiick in the hizouse !!!

>>713146851
>Dragon's Dogma and RE5
Ah yes the superior MT framework games. Fuck DMC4 I hate that piece of shit.

>>713113713
I think DMC3 has the most memorable basic enemies, plus Dante shit talking the bosses is fun.

>>713139914
>2D
Not going to play.
>>713138282
I call it slots and pseudo ATB. Kingdom hearts 1+2 and neo twewy are close enough that they belong in these threads. This does not, though. Too many cutscenes interspliced into the battle, too little control over the character.
>>713130957
Actually just started it last night. They first chapter is very promising. Had fun, excited to play more. Feels very good to play.
>>713131331
Soul+solstice=soulstice

>>713148358
>>2D
>Not going to play

>>713148401
I'm 30. I play 2D platformers. If i want to play an action game with combos n shit, i want it in 3D.

>>713148093
Come to think of it, I really liked Lost Planet too. Something about the graphics and gameplay in those games really clicked with me.

>>713148471
Just wondering, what are your thoughts on Viewtiful Joe and 2D beat 'em ups?

Wow this is lynchian?

>>713148678
didn't play viewtiful joe and most 2d beat em ups that i have played just aren't that good. i will say that there are exceptions, i would like to play viewtiful joe someday and slave zero X looks good. but very rarely do i enjoy a 2D beat em up, usually i just prefer refined 2D platformers and the odd run n gun.

>>713149348
>most 2d beat em ups that i have played just aren't that good
beat em ups are cool man

>>713140571
Shut the fuck up gay Loser

>>713145295
Nitpicking one measly encounter in a game full of legendary encounters. You can do this btw for every game in the genre. The point remains. NGB is untouchable. Its king

>>713143446
Style 'em up.

Reuben is shit. Only secondaries think he's Dante.

>>713107895
Sexualized females are not modern.

>>713125469
wow Ninja Gaiden 4 looks cool

>>713151107
I kneel. REBOOT Dante absolutely mogs the everloving frick out of 3Dante. He's so badass. Not a clown doing flips off tables in slow-mo.

>>713149674
this does not look fun to me.

>>713151413
Thats the problem, we have to go back to better times

>>713131741
its trve...... dont forget walking simulator sloppa

>>713148038
This is the best post ITT. Honestly might be the best post on 4chan right now.

*Nods respectfully in your direction*

Remember me?

>>713151883
sucks to be you I guess

>>713153367
how about me? how about transformers devastation?
i am now taking it on myself to buy any platinum game or DMC inspired game that uses some cartoon or movie's IP right away for fear of it being delisted.

>>713153472
no, i still am playing games and having fun. like i said, i just started soulstice and am enjoying it.

Just bought this, is this character action?

>>713153835
It's got a combo meter so probably.

>>713153835
it's action adventure

>>713109142
he doesn't like swords

No More Heroes 1&2 and Lollipop Chainsaw. Discuss.

>>713154013
NMH1 is the last good suda made, the rest is unironic kusoge

>>713154059
killer is dead is ironic kino though

>>713154059
character action games are often kusoge tho. i love them, but they are kusoge.

>>713154059
Shinobu sections were good in NMH2 howeverbeit

>>713154119
yeah, that one was decent actually, forgot it exists

>>713154202
the good ones aren't, wtf are you on

Resident Evil Mercenaries ==== Mission Rankings ===== Character Action

>>713145240
>>713154537
Everyone else stop posting because this is the only anon that gets it.

One of the few genres that got to ride into the sunset without being ruined.

Baldr Sky's gameplay is fun as fuck, I wish the whole game was like that instead of being split between VN sections. What were they thinking making the best girl the heroine of the first and worst route?

>>713153835
Ayyyyyy, brother.
I got it too. Having fun with the revamped combat? I am.
You better be playing in truth seeker or else you are a casual.
As for your question, eh, maybe? So far (finished Chapter 1) i'm putting it above NMH but not by much. That is to say, it's certainly stylish, and can be fun, but it's obviously not becoming a staple of the (sub)genre any time soon.
But yeah, i'm having fun but it's kinda ugly at times, ngl

>>713155074
Thanks for the reminder that i need to finish baldr force.
The progression is weird. Feels strange setting things to unlock for the next mission between VN sections. I don't entirely like it, feels like i'm being pressured into picking something without enough information. Would rather have a shop with points and unlock on my own.
I hope we get the VN/Game with the fantasy robots translated.

>5 enemy spawns
>Spam Holy Water
>5 mins. saved from playing Bop-it
>Exit room
>MISSION COMPLETE - S rank
This is the way DMC was always meant to be played.

>>713106632 (OP)
Why character action and not hack and slash? What's the difference?

Forfeit the game
Before somebody else
Takes you out of the frame
And puts your name to shame
Cover up your face
You can't run the race
The pace is too fast
You just won't last (last, last, last)

DUNT DUN DUNNAP DUN DUN DUNNA DUNNA DUNNAP

>>713156647
"Hack and slash" has confusing meanings.
People call games like Diablo and Golden Axe "hack and slash."
The "character action" term was made to be more specifically about DMC-like stylish action games.

>>713157078
Diablo, i get it.
But Golden Axe is the literal definition of a beat em up

>>713140248
That sounds very much worth it, since that tac ninja encounter is probably one of the hardest on day1. Thanks for the additional info too, I think I used it heads on when I first played the game, saw it wasn't as free as in II and immediately dropped it. Oh yeah, cicada surging the spider tank is fucking awesome, it works wonders if you're about to get caught in that fucking electric field, tho you might still surge into one of those timed missiles.

>>713140936
Sounds like a good plan, I use wind path a metric fuckton, but it's now bumped down on the priority list. I used to go for the lv2 ds upgrade first, because of the extended strings and additional SoB, but I for my next playthrough I'll go for GT and CS and see how that works out.

>>713157157
I know, I agree.
But "it has weapon" = "hack and slash" to a lot of people.

>>713145616
I just wanna be the same cool guy. Is that too much to ask?

>>713145295
You choose the cheese you use

>thread im actually interested in
>355 posts in already
Why does this shit always happen

>>713157474
>Oh no, it's too late to post bait and farm (You)s
Here's one on the house, kid

>>713157568
I genuinely want to talk about action games THOUGH

>>713157596
We're not at the bump limit better start now and make a new thread latet

>>713157078
The real tragedy is that the once vibrant genre of isometric dungeon crawlers got both spreadsheetified and zoomified by Path of Exile to the point that the original Diablo looks like an RTS for babies. Like some sort of awful convergent evolution, everything is now either Shitty Hades, Shitty Vampire Survivors, or Shitty POE.

>>713157689
Well OK, I've mentioned it before but I feel like there's this curve in Bayonetta where it feels horrible at first, then you get better, get more skills, then you reach this peak of KINO, but then you keep playing and realise there's so much bullshit getting in the way of NSIC P runs, let alone PP runs
IT feels like the combat devolves into about 10 combos

>>713136095
NG3RE feels better to play than NG2 simply because no UT spam. The levels/bosses are mostly bad in both games but 3RE has by far the best combat in all of NG.

>>713131140
The port is magic. It can run on a potato. You can always download the demo and try for yourself.

>>713157078
>The "character action" term was made to be more specifically about DMC-like stylish action games.
ng is character action and it's nothing like dmc and not stylish at all, the term was made by dimwits who want to feel smart for playing certain video games

>>713143204
>that's funny, just a few years ago people made of you weebs for acting like a faggot playing faggot tranime games where you play as a woman

the only thing that character action can mean is that the main character's moveset is deeper and more involved than usual (compared to some action adventures like Castlevania LoS or Ico for example)

>>713124951
Kasumi is straight up funner than Ryu in RE
Would recommend for challenge mode

Just give me a fucking MGR remaster with quick weapon switching already, Konami.

>>713138491
I have no idea why, because Bayonetta was always infatuated with Luka and Jeanne was her sister, not a romantic interest

>>713138491
>some people
>>>>>people

Is Wonderful 101 really that good?

>>713125469
>action game
>30fps

>>713158305
you don't have to move the camera around so it's goated if you are a pad scrub

>>713136095
Now THIS is shitposting, guaranteed replies, well done

I fucking love Vanquish, but I wish they did a small patch to remove the walk n talk segments and maybe get rid of that retarded sniper section

Will it deliver after a decade of development time?

>>713109142
>>713109718
>>713158576
Cyborg Old Snake with Vanquish-like gameplay for Rising 2.

>>713158305
Lol no.

>>713127061
>Most action games use either a time slow dodge
And that's a fucking travesty, wish they would stop or at least give the option to turn it off.

>>713160126
No. It can't possibly live up to the 10 years of hype. I'm sure the game will be fun though.

>>713160126
It's crazy it took a decade. It was supposed to be the spiritual DMCV/FFXVI. Now it needs to surpass them otherwise there's no reason for it to exist.

>>713144384
Who are you quoting?

>>713140202
It's worth a playthrough. Took a look at it again recently and it's been fun. The dev is obviously a fan of DMC and there's analogues of a ton of the moves. The main guy's moveset is pretty much just Vergil and has several just frames, they're pretty lenient though. Also the buffering window is pretty loose. Still fun for an indie DMC fan game.

>>713149348
>slave zero X
LMAO
He doesn't know

>>713149348
Slave Zero X is so fucking garbage it's unbelievable

>>713157941
>main character's moveset is deeper and more involved
Elaborate

>>713166912
it's an arcade game, not a cag

>>713157737
I only just started Bayo and I put it on the shelf for a bit. I like the campy humor more than the game itself so far. Good to know it should start feeling better at some point

>>713131741
I can see your point. A bit vague, but it's fair. You can fit a lot into the action catogory, e.g. rts and fighting games.

>>713167318
So God Hand doesn't count now either?

>>713158305
It's very good when it comes to the combat. The game lets you control how big you want the morph weapons to be and this adds a lot to the feeling of impact you get from the game. However the constant mini games prevent me from replaying the campaign more. Bayo 1 is one of my favorites despite the few qte segments, but w101 takes it to another level.

>>713157749
3re makes enemies harder to open up, which is a good thing, but it still lacks proper balance and polish. Weapons were stripped off their best moves in 3re and the hold attacks are boring since they are mostly the same. Most evasive enemies are countered by spamming Y or baiting sob.

>>713168468
I never played it, can't say

>>713157749
lmao

>>713168913
The state of this board

>>713169209
It's the board that defends DMC2 and Senran Kagura; what did you expect?

>>713169209
I didn't play one game you guys worship so I am bad now?

>>713169886
Your taste is bad yes.

NG4 looks kino to be honest and the new twink protagonist is growing on me.

https://youtu.be/LypituWx0hY?t=296

>>713170892
The only reason I haven't preordered is a friend is insisting he gifts it to me on my birthday.

>>713170353
bad taste would be playing it and disliking it, I just didn't care to play it and obnoxious goychan shilling didn't help you guys whatsoever

>>713125083
>Play Dante once through DMC3
>Never touch him again
>Play Vergil only
>Almost finish my 2rd playthrough with him
game is 8.5/10 now

>>713157841
it actually has the potential for style and is very similar to dmc if you are looking at the broad map of all video games, or even all action games for that matter. this is like saying age of empires 2 is nothing like starcraft. we could write a book about the differences. medieval vs sci-fi, 3 asymmetric civs vs 20 symmetric ones, food wood gold vs mineral/power etc, different micro tech with different unit comps but ultimately they are both still rts from the same era, they aren't "nothing alike"

>>713147247
zoomer derangement syndrome

>>713171582
>highly regarded game
>refuses to play it for that reason
Yeah you're free to leave.

>>713174227
a bunch of 4chan mongoloids shit posting and posing as hardcore gamers bc someone made a video about godhand on yt isn't what "highly regarded" means to me

>>713171924
they literally have nothing in common, and the potential it has is "cool" and "cold", not "stylish".

>>713131741
I think that one anon just likes having hot babes in his game from a series that usually has hot babes.

>>713128463
>>713128707
>>713128862
PROJECT X ZONE 3 WHEN

>>713106632 (OP)
DMC is mid tier
NG2, 3RE and Rising are amazing tier
NGB and Bayo 1 are god tier

So how do you guys feel about Ninja Gaiden 4?
Also hey Red, hope you're doing well

>>713170892
Don't care, no hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits no buy

>>713142467
I think the only enemy in DMC that ever lost their limbs was frost from DMC 1&4. And that was only like one arm. Man I wish more enemies in DMC lost their limbs and took battle damage other than shields breaking. Also wish DMC didn't drop wall running after 3.

>>713175618
this

>>713175650
looks good to me, hope it'll do well enough to warrant more action games from platinum and tn

>>713175650
Optimistic

>>713175650
I'm very excited about it. Looks badass and like a proper evolution of the previous games.

>>713175650
Doing pretty good, thanks. You too I hope.
NG 4 looks good, I am a bit concerned about some of the parts they showed and Ryu's gameplay is still a mystery but I am optimistic overall, already pre-ordered it.

>play DMC2 when it releases and think "eh"
>Bunch of zoomers who only played 3 act offended for me
>See the error of my ways
Wubba lubba dub dub

>>713166912
As time goes on I find PS2 Shinobi more fun to revisit than any of the 3D Ninja Gaiden games. It's a shame Nightshade doesn't quite hit the mark.

Shinobi really is an incredible series given how varied it is.

>>713179574
>already pre-ordered it.
Same

>>713180210
Is Shinobi ps2 the greatest filter to date?

mgr
>top tier gameplay and character designs
>boring grey levels

dmc5
>top tier gameplay
>characters look okay
>ugly ass levels

>>713128304
>hrt rush
your kind is not welcomed here

>>713179867
Based

>>713180614
>mgr
>>top tier gameplay
lol?

>>713180614
>>713180759
Aaand here we go again.

>play level
>Struggle to beat the boss
>Get to next level
>Fall right at the start, no dragon statue start again teehee
If you don't end your playthrough then and there you are a cuck. There's no reason to accept that. Just play again next year

>>713175651
Probably just side characters in the game or DLC if the game sells well.

>>713174583
they literally do

>>713179867
Respectable

>>713181016
just beat the boss again, they are short and easy

>>713175650
Its shaping up to be a fan favorite like NG3.

here's hoping ng4 flops horribly and they never stain the name of the series again
allahu itagakibar brothers

>>713182003
Same

>>713140571
How would Shadow fair in a Resident evil style plot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNj6NN-jtc
What did zSenzy mean by this

>>713109142
He retired and decided to rest and wait out his dead, as he was already tired from the battlefield as early as the freaking end of MG1 of all games (do not confuse with MGS1).

He fulfilled his role, had his due and is at peace with himself. It'd make no sense for him to suddenly decide he wants to become a war-monger cyberfreak merc for hire.
Neither did for Raiden, but someone had to star the game I guess

>>713183002
I don't know but zSenzy and Farnham the Drunk are my fuarking HEROES.

>>713170892
I wish Yakumo would get slutty outfits

>>713171798
Have you played 5?
THAT is peak Vergil. I can't go back to other characters after playing Vergil. Like 80% of my play time is with Vergil.

>>713183607
Stylesman not included?

>>713184280
No, I just thought that video was funny because he kept whining about NG2 fans
Also forgot to mention WokeBlader, all my heroes

>>713158305
It has a 72 on metacritic anon what do you think

>>713181021
Until I see her uncensored I'll buy it otherwise pass

>>713113713
Presentation.

Do anons know if ZZZ is actually worth playing? I hear it’s a fantastic CAG but idk if I want to get into gacha.

>>713127959
REFERENCE TO WHAT IN 64

>>713181838
NG2 also has collectables

>>713181838
I hate that you need to do a QTE to collect it. It's like something out of a Korean gacha. Miss it? Replay the level to try again. Just padding

Friendly reminder that the Soulslike genre is at its weakest due to the double whammy of Shadow of the Erdtree and Nightreign so you HAVE to buy Ninja Gaiden 4 if you want proper action games to come back.

>Action games: Ryu
>Delimbed enemy: From Software
>Buying Ninja Gaiden 4: pressing Y near the delimbed enemy

>>713106632 (OP)
it's called hack n' slash faggot stop using eceleb new speak

>>713186223
Modern audiences and journos love that stuff, the more padding = more mainstream appeal according to Platinum.

>>713185676
It's press x to awesome zero depth chinkslop. The girls are fucking hot but I just jerk to the porn of them. The game itself isn't worth playing at all.

>>713185676
I like ZZZ but whoever told you it's fantastic was absolutely overselling it. It's decent for what it is but you should not be expecting character action tier gameplay from it.

>>713186418
Both of those games sold millions of copies. Shadow of the Erdtree was even nominated for GOTY for fuck's sake. What do you mean "weakest"?

>>713186556
Looks straight out of rachet and clank or 3D sonic.
On a separate note, the art direction for the game is atrocious.

>>713186418
I wish this was true, I'm ready for this subgenre to die off, but I doubt the normalfaggots have had enough, so get ready for another decade of openworld crafting cancer rollslop, or even worse this pvpve nonsense like nightreign/duskbloods.

>>713186763
People bought both games due to drone indoctrination but everyone hated the fuck out of them, to the point where /v/ itself renounced From Software and the Steam forums are nothing but people shitting on both.
Both games inflicted mortal wounds on From Software and the rest of the genre will follow.

>>713186556
>ng went from picrel to having no gameplay density at all
grim

>>713186887
It’s crazy how fucking gorgeous NG2 is and now Ninja Gaiden just looks like any other video game.

>>713186887
It certainly has the HUD/UI to go along with it.

>>713187190
2 is ugly compared to 1

>>713187073
Shooting respawning jellyfish sure is dense alright.

>Ninja Gaiden le hardcore Character Action game cuz like................................................u mash combos rly hard
Cringe Lel

>>713187719
>>713187732
>anti-NG2 schizos coming to the defense of NG4
kek like fucking clockwork

play her game immediately, actionbros

>>713187816
>NG 2 fag calling anyone schizo
Genuine comedy

>>713186556
Honestly a little less worried about this now that they didn’t show any of this shit in their last trailer or their twitter clips. Guessing it’ll be significantly less bad than your average plat game, but it won’t be the perfection of pacing like NG2.

>>713187915
>anti-NG2 schizo instantly outs himself
concession accepted

>>713187893
no. bayonetta exists.

>>713188159
you can't enjoy more than one game? Stellar Blade combat is very fun

>>713175650
already pre-ordered the deluxe

>>713185676
No game with an anti cheat is worth shit

>>713187816
They hate us, 'cause they ain't us!

>>713188187
I bought to send a message but I don't like Dark Souls not Elden Ring, I need combat like Ninja Gaiden or DMC, even Nioh and Kazhan have better combat than other soulslike

i haven't played ninja gaiden in 10 years and playing ligma 1 master collection on hard difficulty and it's kicking my ass, but also very fun and rewarding. also got 2 black with the white mod and it's kicking my ass too, but it's less fun than 1. i guess i like the adventure elements more.

>>713188478
Stellar Blade is not a soulslike, it's closer to an action game

Damn. I get chills when I walk down spoopy hallways action.

So far the sword alchemist fight in Ayane's chapter was the hardest part of my base HP run.

>>713188478
>I bought to send a message
Kek

I'm not gay but sometimes I wish Ryu would hold me tight in his strong arms.

Ahhhhhhhhh today's been a good day. Just got done jerking it to Marie again.

>Character action
correct and great term

>>713186418
>>Action games: Ryu
>>Delimbed enemy: From Software
>>Buying Ninja Gaiden 4: pressing Y near the delimbed enemy
holy kino

someone should compile a list of goated action games so it'd be easy to find and play all of them

Fuck yeah first tried the encounter with the loa shitters, alchemists and vangelfs

>>713158576
It really is fucking insane they blatantly set up the story for sequel bait.
That aside, I really like Vanquish, but wish it was structured more differently. The gameplay is cool as fuck, but the story being just as badass with actually cool boss fights could've helped cemented it even more.

>>713191993
i look like this and say this

Upcoming Lilith Soft action games will save the genre.

when I was a kid I thought MGRR and Vanquish were set in the same universe

>>713109992
I'm a huge luciafag and even I know her game is complete shit.

>>713190653
Itagaki only acted hostile to DMC and Tekken for marketing. All of his hatred was bs.

>>713191748
This clip is giving me anxiety. It features the two biggest concerns I have about the game.

>>713188478
You didn't do any of that. You're an Indian retard.

If Rhythm games have a Results Screen then they must be Character Action too?

>>713191602
How has no one does this?

>>713191748
>auto OTs
Dunno how to feel about it

>>713127965
Because Nintendo is greedier than the most greediest jew or dragon.

>>713194794
I know how to fix OTs, Platinum just gotta hire me.

>>713191748
>[!] warning
>red arrow indicating enemy attack
>astral chain HUD

>>713145616
>if they just gave Dante a demon arm with a grapple hook move and various grabs, I'd bet my kidney half the people here would be crying "Lame gimmick, I wanted another nunchaku"
The funny thing is that they tried this with NG3 and it sucked. It was completely out of character for Ryu to have a demon arm that made him go crazy and the SoB mechanic sucked hard.

Just like they tried to Nerofy Dante with DmC: Devil May Cry and it just turned into something worse than either. Just like they're now probably going to give multiple weapons to Yakumo while limiting Ryu to the Dragon Sword in NG4. Just like DMC2 has separate campaigns for its characters or how Vergil is always a secondary thing with two new moves per game or how VJ1 or Bayo1 have "characters" that are just skins with slight gameplay modifiers.

Every single thing people suggest would "fix" DMC5's multiple character "problem" has either already been tried and failed or didn't really lead to anything worthwhile.

>>713196523
what did he mean by this?

>>713196523
These teasers have really sent him off the deep end. Wonder how release day will be for him?

>>713196430
Oh and let's not forget this absolute travesty.

>yeah bro we're giving Bayonetta a successor
>oh but don't worry she's not the star of the show
>yeah she doesn't really get a lot of things actually
>really she's just there for slapstick
>but don't worry at the end of the game she's Bayonetta now!
>here's your day 1 patch
lol
lmao

>>713196598
https://youtu.be/gCNj6NN-jtc?si=zftlz-3m8tQDseDt

>>713196523
>i Needed Ninja Gaiden 2 in my Life
kinda gay bro ngl

>>713196670
Oh and let's not forget this absolute travesty.

>yeah bro we're giving Bayonetta a successor
>oh but don't worry she's not the star of the show
>yeah she doesn't really get a lot of things actually
>really she's just there for slapstick
>but don't worry at the end of the game she's Bayonetta now!
>here's your day 1 patch
lol
lmao

>>713196758
>Wait! Wait, the Dragon Ninja did not hoard the fiend's essence just to have a party at the motherfucking OT, why would he do that?!
>[[[To chase me down the schizo hole]]]
>What was that, Itagaki Schizo?
>...I didn't say anything...