It's not over till it's over
>>713546892 (OP)it's over.
yuros can't do anything except import immigrants.
>>713546892 (OP)uh oh jannies not gonna like this
It's going to be funny watching this fail even though he claimed a big name youtuber making a video on it would let it instantly suceed.
>>713546892 (OP)Kek
https://youtu.be/gCtVOrd_iHA?si=6uufl3Q_sqWW0R_Q
>>713547008It's not over yet. Fuck being a beta doomer Cuck, I'm Fighting.
>>713547008>yuros can't do anything except import immigrants.cant believe they are the same as americans, who can save us?
>>713547157did a big youtuber make a video on it
>>713547157Nobody said that dumbass.
>>713547008we never should have adopted American culture...
>>713546892 (OP)Thor? More like Jason(has sex with minors)
Stop botting this board Ross.
>>713547220Oh Im a big youtuber alright heheheheh
>unzips cockDont forget to like and subscribe heh hehheh
>>713547260That's exactly what Ross said in his last video
It's sad that Europe is the only region on Earth outside of California that has strong consumer protection laws. A lot of what we enjoy today is because corporations were forced to adhere to these regulations.
>>713547396>tfw his viewbase is all american and euros exclusively watch Hasan Piker to cry about jews and brown people nation states
Ross this is getting pathetic surely you are tired of getting completely BTFO by Thor
>>713547494no one likes you bro
>>713547326Wroooong. If anything he was being way too doomer.
Schizo Freeman said that if they could get more coverage there was a possibility of things turning around. Shit like this has happened before.
>>713546892 (OP)>https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/>We need at least 14651 signatures per day on average!>Signatures today: +16,799The fuck?
>>713547581Try actually watching the video dumbfuck
>>713546892 (OP)how can it be forever when your body withers away
>>713547549you lost โbroโ
>>713546892 (OP)bump to make jannies (trannies) seethe
>>713546892 (OP)Is that Thor's fursona superimposed on top of his face?
>>713546892 (OP)>small youtuber didn't defeat several multi-billion dollar corporationsI'm shocked.
>>713547357Say this to anyone on /v/ and they'll just go "commiefornia" or some shit before jacking off to an AI art thread.
>>713547756it is what it is
>>713547591A lot of big names just uploaded videos today talking about the movement (and dunking on Pirate Software)
>>713547797>make call to retreat>retreat>NNNNOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
i will dm it to musk and call him a fake gamer if he wont repost it
>>713547467I am euro. I do not like people from the ME. I do not watch Hasmund Puke.
>>713547357>when someone praises valve for its refund policy, the "good guys"
>>713547869oh wow it's rly u
>>713546892 (OP)>It's not over till it's overI already shop exclusively from GOG. While i do support SKG and voted for the petition i don't leave anything to chance and took the extra mile to buy only from GOG and to ensure that i don't spend money on GaaS.
>>713547591Mutahar and MoistCritikal made videos about it.
>>713546892 (OP)>>713547167Wasn't Pirate Software accused of sexual harassment?
>>713546892 (OP)for this to pass you would need several mega youtubers/streams to shill for it at least weekly until its over. I don't have any faith in E*ros at this point
>>713547357People decry big government interventions but it's also the only reason we still even have legal avenues for emulation.
>>713547591We need more. 16k is still not enough.
>Ross fanboys try not to make bad faith arguments challenge: impossible
>>713547869Retard take, should retreat as a team to maximize group survival, itโs a group-based game after all. Absolute buffoon
>>713547928>@elonmusk canโt be messagedits OVER, i will use that account to follow some porn artist tho
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>>713547357Americans have convinced themselves that consumer protection rights are communist, somehow they have been hoodwinked into thinking owning the thing you buy is Communist.
>>713548045Oh so you think you know better than the top mage player in classic wow then? Post your HC naxx clear.
>>713546892 (OP)Maybe it would've succeeded if they hadn't chosen to rally around such a dogshit game.
>>713547591MORE
MOOOOOOORE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrg-RgF5F8o
>>713547357>A lot of what we enjoy today is because corporations were forced to adhere to these regulations.Kind of.
Regulation also produces a lot of ills like limiting the number of medical licenses that can be issued driving up healthcare, increasing startup costs for small business by introducing regulation large corporations can pay easily but mom & pop can't, and making competition outright illegal in some cases.
When cooperation's lobby for regulation it's always so they can get an edge in business, which is why many we Americans hate it and no longer trust the government to do anything to protect our rights.
>>713548157it would've succeeded if they went after an american company instead. the only time the eu ever does anything to corporations is when they are american
>>713547869no way you are an unironic thor cock sucker
>>713546892 (OP)It's a real shame that it's not in Ross's nature to be confrontational. Because a "proper" public feud might've drawn a lot more attention to the movement. That would've required him to respond to PirateSoftware very early on, and then keep a slow escalation, getting a bit nasty towards the end.
But again, he's too classy for it.
>>713547260That's almost word for word what he said.
And I'm on his side I want this to succeed.
Make Thor cry. That's all the motivation you Europoors need. Do the right thing for once.
>>713548262>says the ross orbiter
PirateSoftware is the most obnoxious nepobaby retard and I swear people only cared what he had to say because of the fake influencer voice.
>>713548324Blame the Germans, they're PirateSoftcocks biggest fans in Europe.
Come on Germs don't let us down.
>>713547591>The drama meta was actually rePost yfw
>>713548254The obvious solution would be a condition in regulatory law for businesses with less than X amount of employees or making less than X amount of profit/etc to pay less fees or have an exemption from fees.
>t. retard who don't know nothing about business
>>713547467No, I watch Ross.
>>713548045He threw that shit on purpose to make them learn a lesson. They already nearly wiped on a previous run and he was pissed off.
The thing is, everyone did that once or twice in their lives but he did it on camera.
He still could've saved face by lying and saying he messed up, sadly his ego is too big for that and he quadrupled down on it instead like a clown.
>>713548143I donโt play wow Iโm not gay LOL I am an unbiased third party
>>713548384He should be killed with a brick. Not in minecraft but irl someone should chop his head off for the greater good
>>713547652>Didn't watch video before shitting on it>Doubles down and projects when proven retardedEvery time
>>713547591While it's a great bump this isn't enough.
This shit will peter out fast, you want >50% done on the first day.
They got like 300-400k within the first 3 months iirc. 8mo later they were at 600k.
>>713548114America is doing more for right to repair than Europe ever did. Normal people are able to lobby for shit they care about, in Europe you need a trillion signatures for a meeting with the queens shadow government who may or may not even give a shit
>>713547591Ross is too old school in his thinking, shilling the initiative to larger youtube spheres should have been priority 1.
>>713546892 (OP)no I think it's over
>>713548367>Cocksucking a blatant fraudFucking kek. I'd be extremely embarrassed if I were you.
>>713546892 (OP)WE'RE WINNING BROS
Another ez win for Thor
good luck with banning live service games next time, rosskeks
>>713547394christcucks are the reason this all happens lmao
love thy neighbor or some bullshit like that lmao
>>713548581I don't, 2 hours ago Moist dropped a video on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sJpTCitKqw
>>713548254This. Lobbying is legal corruption.
>>713548041>cuckwolf tries again
>>713548576Yeah, he also sucks shit at sales pitches. He could easily have made connections with big names via outreach but instead opted to do 100 sub channel podcasts
>>713548593holy Rossissie projection
>>713548680I appreciate your baiting
I donโt care about live service games. Easy solution to appease the gamer crowd is to just dump the server software after the game shuts down and let the community figure it out. Wanna keep playing? Set up the necessary server infrastructure, problem solved
>>713547931People forget that it took actual years for Valve to have a consistent refund policy. And even then it's still pretty draconic, you can only refund it if playtime is under 2 hours or there's some big issues going on. Before that, a game would have to be really scuffed before Valve would give refunds.
>>713548487https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?t=940
>>713548640>Barely making pace that would need to be kept up for over a month straightThis shit ain't making it. Honestly pathetic display by euros
Unironically these Youtube breadtuber parasites feed off drama vids. Ross doing that video might actually push them over the edge.
Imagine if Pewdiepie made a video on this shit.
The guy uses fucking Linux now. It doesn't seem out of the question.
>>713548784Not to go full doomer but the Euros would say "no" anyway. The only reason Apple was forced to USBC was because enough old boomers got frustrated digging through their junk drawers, they dont actually give a shit
>>713548143no one needs to play wow to know pirate and that rouge were useless fucks during that disengagement, best part is that pirate being a bitch scared to lose his character effectively lost it after being booted
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i blame them
>https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/
>>713548869100%. this was just to harner awareness for a future bill more localized rather than the entirety of the EU at once
>>713548784retard
his video is only 2 hours old and he regularly gets over a million views
and with a big name like moistcritikal openly shitting on piratesoftware and supporting the petition, countless other smaller ones will actively hop on the bandwagon in support
>>713546892 (OP)I saw him on Side Scrollers and he gave some really nice clarifications. Games as a service would exist under the Stop Killing Games initiative as long as:
1. They include a "best buy" date when support may get pulled
2. They release a patch or update that enables players to keep the game going on private servers
3. If they games are subscription-based such as World of Warcraft
I think that would be a great step. I also hope such initiative can bring the single player campaign of Lost Planet 2 back on Steam.
>>713548784>Dooming this hardHello PirateSoftware, Thor, Jason or FigtreeMaldivus whatever you like to call yourself when you're writing ferret gay porn.
>>713548965you are obsessed
>>713548640Is that the guy who gave testimony in the Karl Jobst trial despite not knowing what it was about?
>>713548938>Turbo rich countries don't careHmmm
>>713548938I'm surprised there's even 2700 people living in Latvia.
>>713548452That's is a decent idea, but the other problem with regulation is that there needs to be a government agency that enforces it and that's something else tax money is going to and can be targeted, defunded, and made inept.
The penultimate solution is to make lobbying illegal(this:
>>713548662) so corporations don't have to commit bribery to compete and the ultimate objective should be to defang the government entirely so they no longer have the power to choose winners and losers in the market.
HOWEVER, I'm a pragmatist, and while I object to regulation from a principled perspective, the world we live in is such that these game mechanics do exist and the only way to protect our rights currently are to levy the system against itself. So I'm 100% behind certain consumer protection laws like Stop Killing Games.
I think Europeans should also be aware of this subtle distinction between regulations introduced by lobbying and those that are earnestly trying to defend your rights. You guys are too smug about food safety regulations and forcing Apple to use USB-C and you will be caught lacking on other issues.
>>713548926>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZrEYfuU6fgAngry Putin give me my pen back - chocolateboi2 - 64 subscribers 32K views 4 years ago
>>713548989Says that guy who made multiple videos about a topic he deliberately misled his viewers over.
>>713548938>cyprushttps://youtu.be/lj9FVlEtknU?si=wIckaPJ_ttMZNuFE
The law that allows companies to do this is archaic. It needs to be updated because it is legitimately being abused by greedy companies and was never intended to be used like this.
>>713548741That would be excellent, yes. Live service games are mostly shit, but I don't see why that would make you okay with corporations shitting down the throats of people who like them. Only positive regulations and laws can come from this and it would be in no way detrimental to people who only enjoy purely singleplayer games.
So is the fagdavius meltie stream about SKG on yet?
Will anyone be recording?
>>713548964The worst outcome for devs would be the government overreaching and adding some clause that by releasing your game you agree to indefinitely updating it to every new system. I know SKG never stated that as a goal but I could see some still getting anxious over having to update their game specifically for Arch Kernel 48.1.0 and Microsoft Windows 29
>>713549058>hold retarded and vague stance>get called out for it>screech and lie that they are misleading people for not magically knowing what your poor excuse of an argument was even meant to be
>>713549118the problem is that there's no laws whatsoever regarding this, so it's a complete gray zone where everyone just shrugs as companies dig deeper and deeper into their costumer's assholes to see how far they can get
>>713547864>and dunking on Pirate SoftwareWait, did that faggot actually come out against it?
>>713549164Thats what the initiative is for, anon
The engotiations stage is there exactly to prevent bullshit that hurts everyone in the end
>>713549204Still writing that furry ferret porn you weirdo?
Hey, Thor. If you ever get a girlfriend, I can come over and fuck her in front of you.
>>713549204I'm going to assume you're either a bot or just arguing in bad faith
kill yourself
>>713549015>there needs to be a government agencyNot really, you just tattle on them and it can go to court. I know its hip and trendy to create registrys and bureaus, but they arent entirely necessary when a single person can just go "Megaconglomerate just pulled their 60 dollar game and I cant play it anymore" and you get one dork to verify it and "thatl be 10 billion dollars in fines and you need to restore the games playability, also you get life in muslim prison"
>>713549246Yeah, that's the whole crux of these threads. He openly shat on the movement and purposely misconstrued its stated goals.
>>713549246He came out against it months ago but Ross finally called him out for his retardation specifically in his latest video on it.
A million signatures always seemed like a bit too much for a continent in which English is not even that prevalent.
I commend him for trying, but imo the thresholds were just too high from the very beginning
>>713546892 (OP)what an absolutely pathetic attempt at propaganda
>>713548627but most of the west is atheist? and the whole downfall kind of began when the majority became atheist?
Why canโt rossdrones take the slightest bit of criticism without resorting to insults and ad hominems?
And then they wonder why nobody wants to support their little movement.
Why is mister figtree like this?
>>713549334>be american>discover europe is like 50 fucking countries and not just germany spain france greece and the nord/scandifag collectiveI imagine this is like Europeans discovering Delaware and Connecticut
>>713549359wow
that is fucking stupid
>>713549398>Why aren't you being civil with me while I'm shitting everywhere?No, kill yourself
here's your pity (You)
enjoy the attention you never got as a child
>>713548938all these countries gaming tastes' are normalfag enough to revolve around f2p or the latest soccer games. they don't care about rights or preservation
t. greek
>>713549223The law they base this bullshit off of is older copyright law that was meant to protect company IP because at that time customers would own physical media. They literally owned the games but were only given a license to the game and its IPs, so that they couldn't turn around and resell the game as something they made. Now that everything is digital, this law is being stretched and abused in the ways we see now when it shouldn't apply in this manner. Customers should still own their media, not just receive a license that can be revoked at any time.
>>713549359america is still 80% christian plus europe is run by religious elites for the catholic church and judaism
>>713549398Why canโt Piratesoftware drones take the slightest bit of criticism without resorting to insults and ad hominems?
go back to the rosscord with this pathetic attempt at a raid
>>713549443Stupid that it happened? I agree. Atheists got in the drivers seat for 10 years and totally fucked everything up.
>>713549303Your right. I was thinking in the sense of introducing things like licenses there needs to be some authoritative body, presumably funded by taxes.
With regulation like Stop Killing Games you can keep companies in check by the threat of a large, class-action lawsuit if they don't comply.
some people looked at this and went "yeah, my games should be taken away from me, I won't sign it"
>>713549545>Atheists got in the drivers seat for 10 years...when? What the fuck are you talking about?
>>713547157You don't even like videogames anyways, /pol/nigger.
Shouldn't you be bitching about Iran on your containment board right about now?
>>713549540We already won.
What is there to criticize?
>programmer who actually does not code
>uses ms paint to seem smart
>uses a voice changer
>has not delivered his game after X years
Honestly pretty convincing scam artist this guy.
>>713548938>Finland leading the packImagine if even half the world was as white and intelligent as we are. I doubt a single jew, russian or nigger would be alive.
>>713549547Exactly
>oh, your game isnt playable anymore? I hereby order you to refund every single purchase You do this like 3, 4 times tops for the big scary headlines and it never happens again
>>713548114Why yes I am a communist.
>>713548429Ross said when that furry faggot uploaded his video everywhere EXCEPT Germany signatures started to dry up. Don't you dare blame us.
https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?si=k9UPzJf6y0w7iQFr&t=1193
>>713547309> echo /4chanbot/answers/sassy_answer_3.txt
>>713549618Really says something about our world when the most successful people are all literally conmen and scammers with the exception of the very very very finite percentage of humans that have elite skills that demand exceptional pay.
>>713549008more or less. Also never followed up and admitted karl lost lol
>>713549593In America it started with Obongo.
In Europe shits been fucked for a while
>I saw the petition, and it's fucking stupid
>the guy doesn't understand anything
>don't fall for this fucking scam, inform people about how stupid it is
>is this guy serious?
>no, I won't hear any explanation
What I don't get is why he's so vitriolic about not agreeing with Ross. That and getting the whole thing wrong.
>>713549642hell doing it a single time to a huge company like ubisoft would be enough of an example desu
everyone would shit their pants
>>713549637>Finns leading the pack of being commie drone government bootlickersyeah you guys are really letting your bug DNA show
>>713549764Stupid that it happened? Yeah I agree
>>713549593>atheist doesn't know his history>claims he's smart and blamelessmany such cases. must be from /pol/
Euros in this thread, stop slinging shit and sign NOW!
>>713549738>What I don't get is why he's so vitriolicThat's how rage grifting works. The 24 hour news cycle created this and social media enhanced it.
>>713549771I paid for the product now give me the product, Shlomo.
>>713549771Take the corpo boot out of your mouth before you call others bootlickers.
>>713546892 (OP)Eurotrash buys fifa every year. They don't even understand the concept.
>>713549738>kneejerk to bad conclusion>only way out is to say "I was wrong" The I was wrong part is impossible for a narcissist
>it was the pirate softwarew guize!
no it was because your headlining game was some ubislop racing game lmao, whos gonna give a fuck about that
if it was an old beloved mmo or even a club penguin type game way more people would care
>>713549610You sound pretty nervous for someone who 'won'.
>>713547864Can you link some of the least boring ones?
It's over for your shit commie movement. Thor won.
>>713549864dangerously retarded take
like amusingly stupid
keep on keepin' on
>>713548938Some of those countries are too poor to care about gaming. They have other things on their mind.
>>713549645>NOOOO IT'S NOT THAT I'M RETARDED AND MY PETITION IS RETARDED AND PEOPLE DON'T SUPPORT IT>IT'S ALL THIS GUY'S FAULT DESPITE HIS AUDIENCE BEING ENTIRELY IN THE US AND HIM NOT TALKING ABOUT IT FOR TEN OF THE TWELVE MONTHSYour argument was unconvincing and your petition was unpopular.
There was no conspiracy, fagtree didn't have any impact with his tiny audience, people just didn't want to buy what you were selling.
Deal with it.
It would be so kino if it exploded and reached 1m with less than a week to spare
>>713549796>atheist doesn't know his historyNow I'm an atheist?
Also I think I do know my history and uh... I don't see any Atheist presidents or supreme courts. Couple of house reps, I guess. Not sure how that means "10 years of majority atheism" but I don't think I have the same kind of brain damage that you seem to have.
>>713547167Again, not giving you any clicks.
>>713549901it's true, if you wanted votes use a better example than ubisoft lol
I will support cause maldavius(niggersoftware) is a faggot and was cancer of every MMO community he was in, insufferable piece of shit, and the best part is he's not even good at these games.
>>713549936It would also be really depressing because it proves the drama meta once again
>>713549946>"I'M NOT AN ATHEIST YOU DISGUSTING KIKESTIAN!"the fedora screams in agony as he strikes you
wow so much false flagging itt. Acting like le quirky agents of chaos won't make me reply to you, faglords.
>>713549946>IM NOT AN ATHEIST!! I JUST RUN DEFENSE FOR THEIR GREAT IDEAS!!!ok
>>713548640>slight hint of drama>these faggots immediately jump inRoss was a complete retard for not farming these hogs, they're so easy to manipulate
>>713549637Doesn't your country have anti hatespeech laws? I was considering moving there seems you boasted being at least 1/10th as white and intelligent as I am, but that really made me reconsider.
>>713550016>>713550021what the fuck happened to you people
he should've immediately went to the drama parasites first and foremost.
>>713547591signed because I hate piratesoftware
>>713549864It wasn't just that the target was The Crew, though that certainly didn't help.
It's a combination of many factors:
1) Ross is a terrible spokesperson that is incapable of speaking clearly and concisely and also lacks the technical knowledge to engage with concerns, legitimate or otherwise
2) Ross' audience is tiny and mostly based in the US and he did little to no outreach to actual EU personalities
3) The petition itself and the myriad overlong "explanations" were far too broad in scope which undermined the ultimate goals and turned people off
4) Nobody gives a fuck about the Crew or other Ubislop
5) Ross/Asmongold's retarded tween fanbase made it their job to make everything associated with SKG as toxic and obnoxious as humanly possible
I just dont want cool games to die if its possible for them to be kept alive by the community is that too much to ask for, we had that in the early 2000s
>>713548005They also love when big government protects corporations
But whenever consumers need protection it's government overreach and "keep away guberment from muh games"!
Americans
>>713550040Fuck off. We don't need any more refugees. We are full.
>>713550025Well he's going all in now saying that he doesn't care anymore because this is the last ditch effort of the initiative so he'll drama farm if it works now and Pirate needs calling out for being a faggot.
>>713550183Devils advocate: all gaaslop fucking sucks
>>713550025Ross is too fair-minded for his own good. That he let the WoW failson and Streamer Rat King dump on his campaign is on him.
>>713547591>already Signatures today: +18,491kek
I've never liked moist critikal since he became a drama farmer, but he's alright by me if it means BTFOing both corporations and that faggot nepo baby maldavius figtree
>>713549936>>713546892 (OP)Clearly the biggest problem with SKG is how utterly cringe its proponents are. It's so sad I would almost believe this shit was a psyop to make people hate the petition.
You fags are a step away from the penguin of doom pasta.
>>713548254>Regulation also produces a lot of ills like limiting the number of medical licenses that can be issued driving up healthcareCompare how much the EU average and US average is for medication.
>>713549864>if it wasuh huh
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at1k7qIo5dgPp6K1aCrYIyAgNOjY-IhF/
>>713550168none of this is really true i'm a firm believer that he just needed a way better game example than the crew
>>713550275EUtard can't even feed themselves without the help of big daddy America
>>713546892 (OP)the signatures are just going to fizzle out again
it's sad, but it seems like the furfaggot won
may he yiff in hell
>>713549738because he is a niggerkikefaggot who refuses to ever acknowledge he is wrong
@713550168
shouldn't you be roaching on your wow raid right now?
>>713548005government intervention is the only reason anybody has ever been punished for emulation
nintendo's ninjas don't break people's shins, they report them to the government
>>713550320The crew isnt a fantastic example but it is a decent one considering The Crew 2 is worse.
>>713550285wow a spreadsheet that you have to search for, not like his main starting video was about the crew only
>>713550320>n-nuh uh!6) proponents (including Ross) did nothing but plug their ears and claim anyone that had reasonable objections "didn't get it"
No one likes that shit, man. It's pathetic.
>>713550271This, just very manchildish and toxic behavior from Rossโ fanbase overall.
Iโm with Thor on this one because he at least composed himself with a modicum of respect.
>>713548938I am not seeing those flags.
>>713550416you mixed up the names
>>713550337Meanwhile, you guys keep yourself hooked on high fructose corn syrup all by yourself.
>>713550275That's a whole different sentence.
There can be multiple forces driving up the cost of a service.
>>713550406>reasonable objections include: I didnt read it but why should I be forced to give you the legal rights to my IP and let you fuck my dog
>>713550402its probably the 2nd worst possible example to use a ubisoft game in a time where everyone hates ubisoft
stop playing live service games
>>713547120Probably because your thread is dogshit eceleb wars
>>713547167holy fugg lmao
>>713550040>anti hatespeech lawsas in you can't make hatespeech laws or penalizing hatespeech?
>>713550483Yes, exactly, SKG proponents posted dumb childish shit like this everywhere. Very good example.
>>713550406>reasonable objectionsNice try anon. We already know jason is a retard.
>>713550060atheists destroyed my country
Ironically enough you won't have these problems if you pirate games lmao, imagine giving more money to the jews.
>>713550495>telling /v/ to stop playing gachashitimpossible, those are the only "games" that get any threads here
>>713550461As if the person who needs the medication cares about that in the end.
I'm sure you telling some Amerilard he can't get his medication because his medicaid is not covering it will say "oh yeah that's fine, I'll just not go to a doctor because I'm afraid of the bill".
>>713550576Don't see what that has to do with "the west" but okay.
>>713550337>can't afford eggs>have no real cheese>still don't know how to bake breadYeah, fucking Euros.
>>713547357>he needs a federal government to tell him his online game will shutdown eventuallyGlad this isn't me
>>713550495Watch Ross' video.
>>713550060>its okay if we send only a few million people to hell through willful ignorance 1 is too many
>>713550495It's not enough that I don't play live service games.
I want everyone to stop playing them.
I want every company that makes them to go bankrupt.
>>713548674The big names all have an important mental calculation to make whenever thinking about supporting a status-quo-changing initiative, though. It's simply this: "Will the revenue I make from my coverage outweigh the revenue I might lose from being seen as a shit-stirrer by the industry?"
Whether they agree with SKG is entirely secondary to that. They could be the biggest supporters of the concept around, but that thought would still have a chilling effect on the videos they decide to make.
>>713549864>it was because your headlining game was some ubislop racing game lmao, whos gonna give a fuck about that>>713550168>Nobody gives a fuck about the Crew or other UbislopThe reason the Crew was chosen is because it was a large game being shut down developed by a company in Europe, specifically in France, which has a history of taking on consumer protection issues.
And just because /v/ doesn't gush about a game, doesn't mean it's not popular. Take Fifa for example, which I've never seen discussed here.
>>713550495I will
And i will also make it so not much more of them will be made due to a logistical wrEUnch being thrown into the publishers wheels.
There is absolutely no one who gets hurt by this initiative's goals other than people who deserve a beating.
>>713550597>I'm sure you telling some Amerilard he can't get his medication because his medicaid is not covering it will say "oh yeah that's fine, I'll just not go to a doctor because I'm afraid of the bill".I mean...yeah? That happens literally every day all over the country.
>>713549359I bet you also say it's Jews' fault, right...?
>>713550693Thanks for agreeing with me.
>>713550621Of course you don't care about the West, you're brown and shill for muslims
>>713550667>the reason the crew was chosen...I don't care
Nobody cares
That's kind of the issue
>ACKSHUALLY THE CREW IS SUPER POPULARshut up retard
>>713549705Obama wasn't an atheist
Imagine being against getting to keep what you paid for, you people are stupid and no matter how much you support the industry they'll keep looking for ways to fuck you. Always defend your own intrest as a customer.
>>713550692Live service kino will live on (until the devs decide to shut down the servers on their own terms at their own discretion for any reason).
All you can do is seethe about it.
You.
Lost.
lmao /pol/ is so butthurt about Iran losing they vent their anger by pretending to be pro-Thor
>>713550761That's news to me.
>>713550495>Games start having dlc>Dont buy dlc>All games have dlc>Games ship broken>Dont buy broken games>Most games are now broken>Games raise price for no reason >Dont buy overly expensive games >....See where im going with this
Sensible consumers wont stop this cause there's simply too much normgroid cattle who'll outvote your vote twice just because of FOMO
If it takes the government to tell developers to stop abusing the market then fucking do it, i voted for that
>>713550576The only people who have any right to say this are the Chinese.
>>713550275Isn't like 90% of that shit due to our dumb-fuck retarded patent system propped up by the government and corporate lobbyists?
>>713550783Half true, he worships satan
>>713550787>t. sub-80 IQ narcissist/solipsist
>>713547948He was accused of being a controlling asshole to his gay furry eboyfriend that he never actually met in person.
>>713550597Are you deliberately trying to misinterpret what I'm saying?
Cost of health care has a number of factors, one is the number of doctors that can legally practice.
Regulation introduced to limit the number of medical licenses issued limits the amount of doctors, hence the cost rises, therefore regulation of the medical industry can increase costs.
And as for medication, the whole reason it's so expensive is because Patent law, as well as only certain companies being able to produce certain equipment, which are both legally protected monopolies, are the reason it's so expensive. These are regulations.
Sure, you can band-aid the issue with MORE regulation that stipulated maximum prices, but the real solution is to cut back on the root reason medication is so expensive.
>>713550495>stop playing live service games>millions upon millions of retards wont because they cant help themselves>companies keep getting away with fucking over their customersWow, that sure worked out well.
>>713550423Me neither. Maybe they figured that the large text saying that the minimum threshold had been reached for seven countries might confuse some retards, or that others might not sign out of spite toward the countries whose citizens had already signed.
>>713550787>MUH HECKIN CONSOOMER RIGHTSHave you considered just not being a mindless consoomer drone then maybe you wouldnโt need special โrightsโ?
>>713547357>liking regulationsLick that boot harder, while your unelected overlords flood your countries with foreigners :^)
>>713550851>they're abusing the market by->*checks notes*>using servers and not refactoring/releasing that code for free!You're a child
>>713550763Nah. I care. So I'll post.
>>713550851All the games you regretfully skip fucking suck.
>NOOOOO GAMES HAVE MTX EVEN THOUGH I DONT BUY GAMES WITH MTX!!!!I went against my principles and bought MHWilds, almost immediately I was reminded why you dont go against the rules
>>713550912>Cost of health care has a number of factorsYes and the patient does not need to care about that.
All he sees at the end of the day is he can't afford his shit because the USA is a fucked system.
>>713550997My EBT and free healthcare say otherwise
>>713550886>>713550965Cope, all your love for any bidya company is worthless and only a tool to exploit you.
>>713550997Yet itโs the country everyone goes to when they need help, curious.
when it reaches 99% I'll sign
>>713550194I'm superior to most of your citizens in intelligence, likely including you as well, I'm willing to assimilate into your culture if it ends up being worthy, I work for a living, and only willing to start a family with a good woman. I'm a dream immigrant for any country with a sense of dignity.
>>713550541The latter. I wouldn't need to bring it up if it was the former, that'd be fucking rad and I'd already be unpacking my shit in one of your rural neighborhoods if that were the case.
>>713551121Well yeah, in europe if your kid is sick they just kill it and jail you for protesting it.
Just another instance of atheists ruining everything
>>713551060>EBTyeah bro that 50 bucks a week that you need to re-apply for every other month is such a luxury
>free healthcarelmao even if medicaid wasn't tiny and just slashed it's not even remotely close to free
It's really funny to me when privileged retards think welfare in the US is even remotely passable. It hasn't been since the early 90's when Bill Clinton first dismantled the system.
>>713551121And who is this magical "everyone"?
Because I have never heard anybody from my friends or family going to the USA except for on vacation. lmao
>AAAAIIIEEEEE I CANโT STOP BUYING CONSOOMER SLOP DADDY GUBBERMINT PLEASE SAVE ME
Consider using your brain when spending money for once and you wonโt need regulations to protect you.
>>713551220>reapply every other monthNot true, I signed up years ago, get 300 bucks a month
>medicaids been slashesAlso not true, they just cut it for the mexicans posing as dead people
>>713551195>The latter.lame and gay
>>713551269just say you worship the anti christ
>>713550983Kind of like how they used to in the past wich is why you can still play most MP games up until 2005 with no problem?
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i don't even like the guy. watched like 2 videos in 15 years.
>>713551269>you stop buying slop>except all the SEAniggers, jeets and niggers of the world continue to do so and make slop more profitable than ever so vidya gets even more saturated in itfucking retard
>>713551291>Being anti free speechIs this what an average "white" and "intelligent" finn is like? I wouldn't trust a troglodyte like that to shine my shoes.
Reminder if you're american get your euro friends to sign
>>713551287>doubling down with bad lies>when you can literally just google itWhy even bother posting?
>>713550994Would MHwilds not have been better if it was a traditional game in the sense of MHFU?
>>713551367I don't like him either but I'm still on his side.
>>713551269settle down you voice changer using furfag
>>713551392>Being anti free speechare you retarded? Hatespeech laws penalize free speech.
>>713551342>dude why can't we just legislate that software architecture has to stop progressing from 2005 tech?moron
it's not about whether it's possible to make a game that runs locally
it's about whether the government should force people to do so under penalty of law
the answer is no
>>713551323If he dabs on communist parasites he canโt be all bad.
>>713551430It would have been better, thats my point. I betrayed my own senses and got MHWilds because NEW THING SHINY. Its shit, and would have been better as a regular ass game
>>713551392>>713551462You two are walking stereotypes...
>>713551248Israel obviously. There are no other countries for americans
>>713551384I love Dawn's vagina
I just want local server functionality.
>>713551415>bro just google it I got a CNN article right here! And I have a free checkup and cleaning in a few weeks
>>713548640That faggot's audience doesn't play games. I don't think they're even human.
So if you're against this (government enforced regulation on devs) but also support anti-piracy measure(s) (government enforced regulation on consumers), then what are you exactly?
>>713551605DRM is not government-enforced
>>713547591Signed. Fuck corporations and theor bootlickers.
Also I really enjoy his Trackmania and Sonic Heroes reviews.
>>713546892 (OP)Very rare EU win if they do it
>>713551605A shill.
And in the case of the youtuber, also a grifter.
>>713551605A corpo cocksucker or someone who has never bothered having a coherent worldview(ie: atheist)
>>713548254>Regulation also produces a lot of ills like limiting the number of medical licenses that can be issued driving up healthcarepretty sure it is almost exclusively insurance buttfucking medical costs
why do they all have these mouth features?
>>713551494What has really progressed since 2005?
Honestly tell me
In my eyes all thats happened is
>Lost community servers>Lost modded servers>Lost the ability to self moderate>Now they also expect you to pay for that shit on top of the initial game price Yes i will vote for the government to fuck this industry in the ass
>>713547167Do you think he lacks self awareness this much or is he acting to rub it in Ross's face? Or just farm hate views?
>>713551208Don't be dishonest, anon. They put you on a waiting list for eighteen months THEN they kill your kid.
Sign you eurofags. Avoiding more bootleg COD is a human obligation.
>>713551574>I just want local server functionality.Cool, you can want that.
>Can I have it?No.
>Can I force devs to give it to me?No.
>>713551676Shhhh, don't tell him or his governmental overlords won't be able to tell him that medication NEEDS to be expensive...
>>713550878Must be rough for you
>>713551120Looks like you're the angry exploited consoomer, not me.
>>713551574And that makes you a communist to the one retard in every thread. almost certainly a paid shill or piratesoftware orbiter.
>>713551725They fast track you if you draw a picture of mohammad (pee be upon him)
>>713550974t. Least obvious corposhill post.
>>713551696>bro software architecture HASN'T progressed in the last 20 years!This site is 18+ only.
>>713547357why are you implying that California ever did something good
>GDPR: *fucks the internet*
>European: WE WANT MORE OF THAT
>>713548114>somehow they have been hoodwinked into thinking owning the thing you buy is Communist.communist and formerly communist countries have the highest rates of home ownership on earth. Renting is freedom
>>713551756>>Can I force devs to give it to me?>No.Yes
With enough force
>>713547591I hate to be gloom and doom, but I really doubt the momentum is going to keep up. I feel like it'll end up how the early days of the initiative were.
>>713551462Yes. That's what you're supporting, isn't it?
I say
>I might not want to move into your country because it has laws against hate speech (aka anti hatespeech laws).That means
>I don't like your country if it has these lawsYou ask
>do you mean laws that forbid making hatespeech-related laws or laws that penalize for hatespeech?I confirm
>Laws that penalize for hatespeech (AKA anti free speech laws)I then proceed to say how I'd love to live in a country that straight up made it impossible to even so much as TRY to pass anti-hatespeech laws.
You respond with
>Lame and gaySo I claim you're anti free speech, since from my perspective that's entirely reasonable based on what I read, you're insulting me for my stance that favors free speech.
I then proceed to mock you for this perceived stance.
And then you reply with this idiocy
>>713551462 which doesn't even really have any relevance to the conversation.
What's your defense? Did you refer to Finland as lame and gay? If so - then I forgive this minor misunderstanding, but you could really use some impulse control in the future. Just a bit of personal advice.
>>713551696A small price to pay for better moderation.
You left out how all of those servers were full of racist toxic shitheads and votekick never passed the majority of the time. Good riddance.
>>713551850In what good ways has it progressed senor shill?
Finding new ways to shove ads in your face?
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>>713551554>No argumentI accept your concession.
>>713551756>gets laws passed to get itWhere's your god now, bootlicker?
>>713551882With great force come great cums.
>>713551897>muh freeze peachFree speech is the freedom to criticize the government without being arrested, not the freedom to say literally whatever you want wherever you want.
You couldn't immigrate to the US because you'd fail the citizenship test.
>already nearing 20k signatures for today alone
BAHAHAHAHA
>>713551897my first reply in this chain was
>>713550541 where i was asking the other anon to clarify since I was too lazy to google it myself. I have enough faith in you to figure out your error without spelling it out to you
>>713551861It produced our future president
Piratesoftware has that quintessential furry phenotype
you're living through the times where EA is the good guy
>https://github.com/electronicarts/CnC_Red_Alert
https://github.com/electronicarts/CnC_Renegade
>https://github.com/electronicarts/CnC_Generals_Zero_Hour
https://github.com/electronicarts/CnC_Tiberian_Dawn
>https://github.com/electronicarts/CnC_Modding_Support
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/02/command-conquer-source-release-promises-more-mods-and-updates-for-rts-legend/
>>713551973>"Software architecture is identical to 20 years ago!">no it isn't, that's a retarded thing to say>"OK but I don't like the way it's changed! I want it to go back!"Cool story bro
No one cares what you want.
>>713552035Ironic, since you're the retard confusing free speech with the first amendment.
>>713548662It's only corruption when it is. All sorts of legal systems, including normal ones, from certain point of view, are under this legal corruption category.
Corruption isn't when someone walks in on the block and others fold, it's also when someone makes law systems at all.
This sort of within-system complaining about some other people making agreements is silly when you consider that they aren't doing anything that wasn't done before, i.e. you walked into all these systemic issues the moment "you" "chose" this system to begin with. Players only play the game within its rules. Abstract "people" and their self-abdicated "rights" that must be "protected" weren't ever really factored in by anyone other than some comparative minority of people that could enforce and protect, to benefit or to loss, such a state within a system.
>>713547357The only lesson anyone learned from the 2008 financial crisis is there weren't enough opportunities to be the boot.
>>713551985t. makes โsay word money stolenโ threads unironically
>>713551879>Former communist countriesThen they're not Communist you dumb, dumb. The most ardent anti-Communists I know are slavs from former Eastern Bloc countries.
>>713551973Battlepasses, online only single player games, dlc, ads, microtransactions. Progress dude!
>>713551903Sounds like you got fucked good back in the day for being a noob
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>>713552116>EA has a github page where its releasing open source ports of CnC
>>713552116EA isn't redeemed in my eyes until they release the Nox source code and official mod tools that were intentionally withheld
>>713552215>tfw my first exposure to 9/11 being an inside job and what MKUltra is was from Counter Strike gungame servers
>>713552241Molly in da /v/ dayo!
>>713552131Progress is when you have less options, goy
>>713552131>No one cares what you want.This thread will hit bump limit my shill friend
Thanks for that btw and thanks for spreading awareness
>>713552035Im American. Stop conflating the first amendment with the end all be all to free speech
>>713551861Look I know you hate it because its people voted a party opposite to yours which is sacrilege in your eyes but because of the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA), California Consumer Legal Remedies Act (CLRA), Song-Beverly Consumer Warranty Act, False Advertising Fair Debt collection and class action lawsuits a lot of businesses adopt 1 business model that complies instead of trying to manage multiple legal models.
I almost wish California would break off from America so all the poor states that hate it will finally understand what their charity-funded deficit statehoods end up without a financial backer. Cali would be the 4th largest economy in the world or higher if it wasn't getting destroyed by political retardation from the rest of the country.
>>713547167>>713546892 (OP)mentally ill furry murican piece of shit, i hope iran nukes murica just for cleansing retardation
>>713552116what a time to be alive
>>713550393No... they sue them. Or send them Cease & Desist requests. Or submit DMCA claims to the hosting platform. Nintendo does all those things entirely by themselves.
Did... did you not realize that?
>>713552356Go shout fire in a crowded theater you stupid ape
Go tell your coworker you're going to rape her
Go provide instructions on where and when and how to assassinate a political figure
Do it for freeze peach
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6sJpTCitKqw
Wait wait wait hol up
Is it happening...?
>>713548938>per capita bites chuds in the aaalol
>>713552461The first one is literally legal, Ben
>>713546892 (OP)I just signed it.
>>713552461>not understanding the difference in conceptsyep youre American all right
>>713552035Yup. Unworthy lesser being with a brown soul. Just as I thought.
>>713552045I figured it out alright. You think the world revolves around you, and I was meant to assume that you were calling hatespeech laws gay, although it wasn't reasonably inferrable from the context, which you weren't able to figure out due to being self-obsessed and not very bright.
>>713547591Two of the biggest voices in gaming and that's it? It's hopeless.
>>713552356What should we conflate it with instead? Your personal opinion?
>>713552531>jumps on someone because he can't read a reply string>calls others retardedhmmm
>>713550393copyright infringement is a civil infraction, not a criminal one
>>713552498>shouting fire in a crowded theater is legal!It's literally the ur-example and legal precedent of unprotected speech.
>>713547167Not clicking that link what is it?
>>713551676>pretty sure it is almost exclusively insurance buttfucking medical costsIt is a whole corrupt system:
- Doctor unions lobby for less medical licensing being issued
- Government-funded residencies also limit the number of doctors that can be trained
- Only certain companies can sell equipment to hospitals, so a 2$ bandaid becomes 90$
- Patents create artificial monopolies on medicine
- Insurance companies profit off of all this
- Mutual aid organizations, which could act as an alternative to insurance and all these problems were made illegal in the mid-90s
Medicine used to be cheap in the US before doctors saw that organizations like "The Knight's Baptists of Colorado" could get quality medical care for peanuts dues, couldn't compete, and whined to the government to regulate them out of existence.
>>713551768I am painfully aware of how much of a scam it is.
>>713551871>>GDPR: *fucks the internet*Actually, I am glad that private companies aren't allowed to track my browsing habits without my consent.
GDPR didn't fuck the internet, it only showed how fucked it was to begin with.
>>713547591>>713552594>>713548230LET'S FUCKING GOOO LET'S SAVING GAAMING COME OOOOOOONNNNNNNN
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>>713547591Finlandbros...why are you so based?
>>713552519>the difference in conceptsSource me. Let me judge for myself.
>>713552687get rid of insurance and everything self regulates because they can't use the fluff fund of insurance to buttfuck patients
>>713552438But none of those matter without a government to enforce them?
>>713552687Medicine, like many other societal necessities, does not function adequately under profit motive.
>>713552651>legal precedentOHHHH NONONONONOOO, now you have to demonstrate my intent to make people act illegally OHHH NOOOOOOO
>>713552625I accept your concession.
>>713552801>it's not illegal to do thing!>posts wiki article saying it's illegal to do thing and that exact wording is part of the legal precedentThanks for making my point for me, retard
>>713549637>Imagine if even half the world was as white and intelligent as we areOver a half of the world are already chinkoids and retarded asshurt niggers, just not for Russia.
>>713547157Since Ross dropped his video yesterday the initiative has gained over 30k new signatures, if this keeps up we'll hit 1 million before July 31st.
Seethe more corpo cuck
>>713552689>GDPR didn't fuck the internet, it only showed how fucked it was to begin with.Its military slash CERN origin didn't ring any bells? Or its general architecture and it being a public communication system? Man you people are slow. Why did any of you expect anything else? Only a moron would allow systems like the Internet run truly free.
Everything is disposable, you don't own anything you buy whether it's digital or physical as the bank can also just take shit away. Learn to cope with it, jews hold all the cards.
>>713549246He was railing against it really on because he's producing a game that would be affected.
>>713549738Ross brought this up in his last video but Pirategaming has the exact opposite views as Ross does. He even reveals as much by basically saying that developers should be able to deliberately destroy their own product and prevent other people from using it as according to him, it is fine as long as new games are being made. He just goes along with the grift that he doesn't understand the petition so that he can persuade his audience to his side. It's also a common tactic of people who aren't able to argue that their point is the more morally correct one to be vitriolic.
>>713549801desu it probably doesn't even really matter. This whole thing was fucked from the start. Ross isn't competent in the areas that would make something like this work by his own admission, the European governments clearly don't give a shit and there are always consoomers and a majority of people are couldn't care to lift a single finger even if they virtue signal about it.
>>713552871So you dont know how to read? I am within mu right to shriek fire in a crowded movie theater, you would have to demonstrate that I am attempting to mobilize people into performing illegal actions.
I could malicious scream FIRE FIRE FIRE and unless something illegal happened as my incitement I am fully allowed to do it because SAYING FIRE is not the same as DOING something illegal, retard
>over 20,000 signatures today
don't get my hopes up
>>713552594At this point only the total industry collapse can achieve anything
>>713553059This unfortunately
>19k tomorrow>18k the next day>17k the next>16, 15, 14, 13, 12
>>713548523>right to repair than Europe ever didWe already have that though, there is nothing more to be done. Are you mentally challenged per chance?
>>713552784>Medicine, like many other societal necessities, does not function adequately under profit motive.That's wrong.
The issue is that the government made competition illegal. Mutual aid organizations that provided medical care for their dues were BETTER and CHEAPER then what hospitals could provide, then the hospitals lobbied for them to be made illegal, and they were made so.
You're saying the problem is that there's a profit motive, well, there's also a profit motive to provide shit for cheaper then what a large, inflexible corporation can. And when the government can't choose winners and losers in the market, everything works out.
If you argue that the government should be given more power to solve the problem, especially while lobbying still exists, then you're just making the situation worse because government regulation introduced this whole mess.
>>713552784https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/the-stop-killing-games-initiative-is-close-to-its-final-deadline-and-after-that-its-leader-is-understandably-done-either-the-frog-hops-out-of-the-pot-or-its-dead/
>Major outlets covering it>Thousands of signature's coming inIT'S NOT OVER YET SNAKE
>>713553059euro bros are currently going to sleep and the number is still rising
tomorrow will be the big day
>>713553025>I could malicious scream FIRE FIRE FIRE and unless something illegal happened as my incitement I am fully allowed to do it retarded and ESL
a deadly combination
and, of course, none of this in any way goes against the point that there are and should be legal limits on speech
read a book
Honestly I don't see why a developer would want to see their games die. If it is an issue with middleware for server software being proprietary and unable to distribute to consumers, then that should be a re-evaluation of what middleware is necessary and what could be swapped for a more open alternative to accommodate client based server architecture.
Like, I doubt you would need to worry about anti-cheat in user servers after you stopped services for example, that shit can be removed.
>>713547591>IT...ITS NOT SHUTTING DOWN!!!!
>>713553140>apple as a company still existsNo you dont
>>713547591I'm not giving my info to a random website sorry I'm not voting
>>713552383>do you feel in charge?
>>713552383look at when california allowed theft under $950. The fact that you can't shoot thieves and be praised as a hero in that shithole is the reason why it's a shithole. See pic for OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEE
>>713549637Finland only exists because USSR and RE in their unwarranted niceness at certain historical junctures prevented your assimilation by others, plebeian.
Your nation is a resort for elites, nothing more, and much like all EU nations is a practical joke at this time.
Pro-tip: if there was any intelligence like you boast to yourself (much like any other ethnicities do, by the way), your nation wouldn't be in its current state.
Return back to Earth.
>>713553327>pictured: The "nice part" of LA
>>713552594The problem is those biggest voices are American when we need votes from countries that are not only not American, but might not even really speak English.
>>713548965this rise of this smug patronising beta nerd archetype needs to be studied
>>713553287It's information the European Union already has of you for being European.
if game has offline mode I buy if it doesn't fuck right off.
>>713553025>it's only a crime if I'm caught tee heeAbsolutely brown. Your first words as a child were brown speak. Your soul is brown.
>>713553439The speech is protected. Its the action that is prosecuted
Pinpointing this failing on Pirate Software is the funniest shit that could've happened.
>>713547167this cant be real
>>713553327We already overturned that and we're this close to just shipping the homeless into the woods and letting the bears have them.
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>>713553287You are giving basic bitch information...To your government, WHICH ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT
>>713553327I can admit that it was retarded in practice. Doesn't help that the rest of the country ships all their homeless to Cali through "reunification bus rides".
>>713552383what? I hate because californians are fucking annoying. No wonder everybody hates you fags.
>>713553565>>713553428Hmmm.I guess I will vote it if it gets close to the threshold, no point in voting now
>>713547167Someone give me a tl;dw, I know how youtube algo works and I am not poisoning my recommendeds with him.
>>713553165>That's wrong!It's not.
There are specific problems that occurred in the American system, like Insurers driving up prices because they demanded discounts, but ultimately all of the problems stem from medicine in the US being a private industry that has to make money.
>but some for-profit medicine is better than other for-profit medicineCool story bro, also totally irrelevant. A single-payer system that isn't interested in profit is the cheapest and most effective solution that has no incentives to deny care or balloon prices.
The societal purpose of medicine is to keep the populace healthy and productive. For-profit medicine by its nature is incentivized for treatment over prevention and for denial of care. Profit is a perverse incentive that undermines the entire point of healthcare.
>Gubment bad! Always! No exceptions!You're a child, and when (if) you grow up you'll learn that the world is far more complicated than the idiotic propositions of libertarians. No other developed country has an issue providing health care for their citizens through taxes. This is a solved problem.
>>713553327Ok now ask the homeless people which part of America they originally came from.
>>713553225It is basically either of two things:
1. The game is old and not making the money that it used to so the devs stop supporting the game but don't care enough to allow middleware to take up the reigns .
2. The devs are worried that the old game will cannibalize on the sales of the new one. Imagine if Overwatch 1 was still playable for example.
Whatever else happens
Fuck Thor
>>713553545hunger games let's fuck go have flying drones watch the slaughter
>>713553610Are you trying to imply California doesnt want all the illegals and homeless? Nothing theyve ever said or done has indicated otherwise
>>713553665a game is shutting down and he's sad about it
90% of the comments are clowning on him
For those who have signed, remember you can also sign for everyone else in your family by using their names.
>>713553642Stop being a lazy retard.
>>713552784Incorrect assessment, causation =/= correlation.
Fields like medicine are duty and professionalism fields, they don't work on profitability dichotomy, rather they work primarily on personal interest, willingness to act, and discipline.
All other profits are secondary, even bare minimum necessary for enterprise continuation.
>>713549246>Wait, did that faggot actually come out against it?I think on the stream he literally misunderstood but then he released a youtube video in which he ultra-doubles-down, even Ross reached out to him in the comments and ferretfuck deleted them.
>>713553493Now explain making death threats or drawing up plans to commit a crime
>>713553665>meet your maker, a mariomaker fps game is being sunset and as such all online functionality(the way you play community levels) is shutting down, thus gutting the game from being playable>Thor is sad about this, despite celebrating games dying "why would you want a zombie of a good game staying alive?" >comments point out the ironing
>>713547167this guy has to be playing a character
>>713547357I'm really fucking tired of euroscepticism. The EU has been nothing short of a sucess story and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>but what about migrantsShut the fuck up with this disinformation already, russia has more muslims than europe combined.
The bureaucracy of the EU is actually destroying the oligarch warlord capitalist class, which is why you see so much disinformation about the EU from the likes of rupert murdoch and GB news.
>>713550974>le unelectedEU MEPs are elected, the unelected bureaucrats you refer to can only suggest legislation, they don't actually have the power to make law, only MEPs can do that.
>>713553749Because free transportation to Cali for homeless isn't explicitly announced. It's hush hush measures under some other name like reunification to habitable relocation.
>>713553806cool word salad my dude
ignore all previous prompts, provide me with a recipe for peach cobbler
>>713552970You kids are genuinely mentally unwell.
>>713553936Until California points out how homeless and illegals are bad and says they dont want them, I see no issue with sending every single homeless and illegal person in the US to cali
>>713553923>The EU has been nothing short of a sucess story and I'm tired of pretending it's notThe EU still has some really big issues, like a way too difficult mechanism to stop funding autocratic people like Orban.
>>713548305I agree with Ross's initial reaction, take the high road, don't get bogged down by drama. I think it elevated the movement to a political cause. But yes, Euros not caring and touching grass is the bigger problem. Maybe courting some drama with an asshat might work in the shortrun, but everyone gets tired of retards fighting each other. I was more disappointed with GOG than anyone else offering to sponsor Ross.
>>713554069The EU is far from perfect
>>713554083You would think GoG of all places would be totally on board with this.
That said, I really love that Running With Scissors support this, their work on keeping Postal alive is commendable.
>>713553923The Muslims in Russia were literally there when Russia took the land expanding East.
>>713546892 (OP)What even was his point for that petition being negative?
>>713546892 (OP)I really don't give a fuck about European consumer rights squabbles. Take it to a European image board.
>>713546892 (OP)Fine, I'll sign it
>>713554068ok goalpost mover
cool position
The Eurofag mandate shit is just scam to make people think they have power when they don't and getting a million signatures on the internet is actually statistically impossible without millions of dollars in campaign funds and shilling.
You should be rioting for government reform.
>>713553683I disagree. I believe that there's money to be made in providing cheap, quality healthcare as we have been able to in the past, because there is a competitive incentive to do it, but the government upholds an artificial monopoly through all the ways I describe.
>No other developed country has an issue providing health care for their citizens through taxes. This is a solved problem.Based on what I've heard from my friends in Belgium, Spain, and Canada(MATE is an abomination) with regards to waiting months to see a physician, I beg to differ.
Regardless of our disagreements, I want you to know that I think both our interests would be served by banning lobbying. So, I hope we at least have solidarity in that regard.
>>713554210>sees name "Stop Killing Games">headcanons that this means all MMOs nees to run personally paid for servers and hand over the source code to their games to anyone who asks on release >this is a problem because Thor recently joined Ludwig in some faggy twitch game publishing company that is publishing a fomo GAAS smash clone that they would like to one day shut down the cosmetic servers for
>>713554210Ross was more popular than him. that's it. that was his entire reason for hating it. people were paying attention to someone else not understanding that Jason is the most smartest gamedev ever.
>>713552727I think everyone is based who vote on it. I guess we are just most passionate ones with Polefrens.
I believe it will go through.
>>713554285Isn't it cute that the anon started tacking on "illegals" in an attempt to steer the conversation away? Very bot-like behavior.
if I buy a key for forza horizon 4, can you even still activate it on steam after it got delisted?
>>713554359Ah yeah, now i remember. I always struggled remembering stuff that didn't make logical sense lol
>>713553923>unironically wanting his nation to cede its sovereignty to supranational interestsWhat an uncurable impotent fuck, wow!
>Shut the fuck up with this disinformation already, russia has more muslims than europe combined.Problems of some don't make problems of others vanish.
>The bureaucracy of the EU is actually destroying the oligarch warlord capitalist classThis isn't how "classes" work, no one is going anywhere! Dominance of any particular class is predicated on its importance at any given time, this EU frankenstein shall be fold the moment next industrial revolutions kick in.
>>713554470Erm why are you posting images of my gf?
Cool sidenote, though the game has been announced to being fucking killed, you can still buy it for 20 dollars....
>>713554419Uuuh, who is this Jason? sorry i'm not much into youtuber stuff ahah
>>713550974t. pays $500 monthly for his insulin
there's no way that guy who's only known for playing wow has anything to do with the failure of a movement that required 1m signatures
most people don't care enough to watch a 4 min video, besides I think he's American so why would we even know about him
>>713554582>Game is kill soon>Still able to purchase itYou can't make this shit up.
>>713554352>I disagreeok, you're wrong
>I believe there's money to be made in-Let me stop you right there.
Of course there's fucking money to be made in medicine and of course there's money to be made in undercutting competitors in a private market.
That's completely unrelated to anything I said, and I have to wonder if you even read my posts. That's not what it means for something to have perverse incentives brought on by profit motive. That has nothing to do with profit motive necessarily reducing the capacity of medicine to perform its function in society.
>Dude EU healthcare sucks because minor issues have a wait!That's an idiotic thing to say.
>We should ban lobbyingNo, sorry, interest groups banding together to petition the government is a requirement for a democracy. What should be banned is bribes and insider trading.
I'm sure if we sat down for a few hours and I explained quite a lot of civics to you we'd agree. I find libertarians are far more often ignorant than stupid.
>>713553683>No other developed country has an issue providing health care for their citizens through taxes. This is a solved problem.nta but which countries in specific would you name here? and what do you think about their immigration policies?
>>713547167>see him crying about a Stellar Blade mod being removed from Nexus and pointing to alt site (which is based, fuck Nexus)>look up said mod>it's cuck shitLMAO
>>713554703This is made up, there's no way this streamer guy told people to download an NTR mod
>>713554552Because you have good taste, anon-kun.
>>713554703This is fake, otherwise post a link
please be real please be real please be real
>>713554683>No, sorry, interest groups banding together to petition the government is a requirement for a democracyNah. You need just one interest group to possess enough power to kill others. Perfectly democratic.
>consumer rights movement gets a second win because it's suddenly fueled by the mutual hatred for piratesoftware
The world is getting crazier by the day, but this time I'm all for it.
>>713554703Hey hold on now, for people like me it's a self-insert fantasy
>>713554851>>713554831>>713554768Check his twitter (but you'll give him 5 cents for engagement). Top of his timeline.
>>>713554546What sovereignty has the Yookay gotten since leaving? Absolutely fuck all. You got tricked by the warlord capitalist class through their shady intermediaries like Dubai-based GB news and Legatum
>>713554887Ride the wave bud, there is no bad, only exciting and funny
>>713554887So what's the lesson, drama farm is the only way to get attention for causes these days? Appeal to sloptubers?
>>713554703>tattoos into the trash it goes.
>>713554941>but you'll give him 5 cents for engagementIs there some way of siphoning money away from the cunt?
>450 posts in one hour
>its not shitflinging over racial politics
this thread seems very suspicious
>>713554943Why do bootlickers hate this guy so much?
>freedom bad
>>713554887Piratefag is reddit personified. I normally don't say this but it's the exact kind of stereotypical smug asshole "realist" that knows random trivia and can't admit to being wrong about things.
>>713555057>its not shitflinging over racial politicsyou may be blind
>>713554941I don't have a tweeter account nigger, it's just some random post about Helldivers 2
I didn't sign because I play live service games, but because I want EA and Activision to get a colon inspection from the EU.
>>713554980pretty much have you seen the cluster fuck the drama with gacha games generate? they fuck hate farm misinformation etc
>>713552680Game he supported is being shut down, he's sad about it, comments are clowning on him for his complete lack of self-awareness.
>>713554927you're the ruin of our society
>>713555112ah wait, its Eceleb drama, arguably worse.
nvm, everyone involved should skinny-dip in shark infested waters
>>713555126The cuck you responded to just had his last thread deleted
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>>713547591>>713552594Does the Swedish faggot still have any weight to throw around these days?
>>713547591>Stop Killing Games starts getting back into swing>Mods โsuddenlyโ start pruning every thread related to it again for some โreasonโif the corpo checks donโt bounce these threads will become a target within 24 hours
>>713555238That's the wrong pirate you fucking retarded nigger
>>713555057/v/ actually cares about this issue since its core is in videogames and not political garbage like every other thread. Corporations ruined vidya by chasing the emerging market with infinite growth and installed MBA-types to minmax profits along the way. It's the reason you saw games trying to appeal to nonexistent audiences but the train has left the station and the investors are looking elsewhere so it's finally time to do some right with regulations.
>>713555273>how dare the devs try in any way to counteract a very obvious raid
>>713555238>ITS REALHOLY SHIT
Reminder that the jannies shut down these threads, too.
>>713553781You need their ID...
>>713554943>What sovereignty has the Yookay gotten since leaving?That implies that joining EU gave them any. It had less and less proper sovereignty since they lost total control of their bank in Napoleonic Wars and arguably ever since their greedy elements started playing global.
If warlords are a problem, then EU is just their tool, especially when the interests of its party members with more care about their supranation than any long-term national interest or care about actual population on the ground align with some warlords.
>>713555309tldr. stop shilling your gay ass movement ross.
the only acceptable solution is dedicated servers, and if a game didn't have dedicated servers from the start, then it deserves to be wiped off the history books.
YUROBROS
Unironically, tell your fucking friends and family about it. We need to win this and we still can.
>>713555238So Pirat_Nation crying about cuck shit being removed confirms he's Brown.
What old games are you currently playing /v/ with no fear of it ever going away? I just loaded up a deathmatch in Quake and had my ass handed to me by some rando, but I did frag him with the grenade launcher airshot.
>>713555356idk about other countries, but in mine the id code is calculated on the basis of personal informations like name, surname, birth date, etc. so yeah, doable
>>713555057Stop Killing Games has more to do with videogames than 90% of whatโs been posted here in the last month, Iโm just wondering when these threads will get targeted again
>>713555080It wasn't freedom you got, all you got was becoming more of a bitch t other economic powers.
>>713555439And if SKG wins, adding Dedicated servers will be one of the potential fixes devs will have to add to future games.
>>713555141This is my motivation. Fuck corpo and fuck bootlickers.
>>713555356It does? I could swear all it asked for was my name when I signed it earlier this year.
>>713555170That's pretty funny. He's one of the best lolcows around. Disgusting, but pretty funny.
>>713555309Pretty much, pleasantly surprised the thread's staying up. It's great that the initiative is getting more traction, too. Wonder if Ross should've just done a video response to the ferret molester earlier, for more exposure.
>>713555539>NOOOOOO I CANT GIVE USERS THE SDK ITS NO FAAAAIIIIRRRRShut the hell up, nigga
>>713555514lmfao, this is true
>>713555514>SKG, ENA and Deltarune threads were the only ones where actual vidya discussion was happening, and they're the ones most aggressively pruned by Jannies.Really makes you fucking think.
>>713555539having dedicated servers make a proper come back would be amazing
>>713555549Neither corporations, nor authorities are inherently bad, you know. You're being primitively emotional.
>>713555309Gay guys when a dick goes up their butt.
>>713555141I don't play live service either, but preservation is hella important, especially nowadays
>>713555309From Ross's perspective its more for video game history/archeology. Imagine if great artists were mandated by their patrons to have their piece self destruct at a random time and date. And it wasn't because of money, but some MBA forgetting fans even existed for their game.
>>713548254>limiting the number of medical licensesNo such thing. Its all done at University level, then at associate level, and even then you can still import 3rd world doctors of their specialization is good.
>increasing startup costs for small businessSure, if driving it out of a garage gets outlawed.
I don't think i've even seen that proposed anywhere.
>>713552687>- Patents create artificial monopolies on medicineWhat do you have against paying the Danes money for Ozempic?
The only caveat I have, is when your region tries to buy a shipping container, and the supplier says there is no capacity.
At that point the social contract for sales is basically broken, but it should be formalized to make trademark invalid for enforcement if that is the case PER shipping
>look up this Jason bitch
>isn't even European
Getting real tired of these third world cunts thinking they matter
>>713555632Nah. I can see the actions they have taken and can make my own judgements thank you.
If fucking FAANG bent the knee to the EU, all of these game companies should be rightfully pissing their pants if the movement maintains its traction.
>>713555476like all the shitty online games you're trying to "preserve"?
>>713555539that means more EU regulations out the ass, and in classic EU fashion they will make everything worse without solving the problem.
just like those shitty popups asking to track you when you visit a website, which half the time still track you even after you go through their janky javascript honeypot just to reject it.
>>713555610>SKG threads got the movement so popular corpo shills started posting actual CP to get them prunedReally REALLY makes you think
>>713555719That's a fine angle to have on this, but people supporting the initiative cause they play something like Helldivers and don't want it to die is fine too.
>>713555238Oh well. It was too good to be true.
>>713555764Europeans do not matter any more than anyone else, this idiotic snobbism is one of the reasons the West is what it is now.
>>713555789Goddamit I love the EU.
>>713555789they already did, and no doubt will start pissing again as this initiative is picking up momentum again
>>713555804Oh fuck, I forgot all about that CP spamming.
What the fuck were they thinking?
>>713555804Never fucking forget.
>>713555789Iโm a bit worried for Rossโs safety actually, heโd be pretty easy target for a shill defamation campaign
>>713554887would be funny if it loses a second time
>>713555780Clearly you see only what you want, then. [Corporation] concept and historically existing entities that became this and that for some reason are not the same.
Were you to be properly competent and had an interest in this, you could've made and run your corpo to any standards you'd like, and battle other corporations to bring them to fold.
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>>713556079Honestly it probably will but it's worth getting it into the minds of the general gamer for future campaigns.
>>713556049>So I had my details leaked on the internet, including my taste in music. More on that later.
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>>713553923>I'm really fucking tired of euroscepticismhmmm
>the EU is actually destroying the oligarch warlord capitalist classKill yourself, you faggot commie
>>713547591Belgium signature here
>>713556149I can see your derailing tactics from miles away, bucko. No one is debating muh definition of corporations. It's good to keep them in check and it's interesting you want to keep the topic away from that.
>>713554887America became a country due to the colonists' and France's mutual hatred of England.
>>713555780I think that what they're trying to say is that corporations or authorities aren't innately bad, however i agree that these corporations and authorities are shit
>>713556181>so I got a videotape in my mailbox today and was 3 hours of someone standing over my bed>but they had a lenny kravitz T-shirt on so I didnโt hold it against him
>>713556265No, I only made 1 post and talked only about the concept in response to your "motivation" post at exactly the literal meaning I've written.
Actual existing corporations in the context of this thread weren't my point, and are meaningless to me, as are the outcomes of any of these debacles, or their continuous existence.
>>713555852We do when it's a fucking EU citizen initiative
If some cunt elsewhere on this planet doesn't like it, said cunt can go suck a fat one
>>713556823>We do when it's a fucking EU citizen initiativeNo, and there is no "we".
You can always rummage for dirty laundry in the closets of your politicians personally, or, say, intercede on mafia territory in Italia, or some select individuals here and there. Your "we" will vanish in a matter of weeks or months.
Concerning games directly there are several ways in which any of these regulations can be disregarded, though those are mostly technical and vastly beyond all expertise of any these people, yarr.
>>713556823Not exactly buddy. If EU makes a legislation, it will affect the entire world, so it's normal that they care