What's his endgame?

>>713741220 (OP)
Shipping Krusie

>>713741220 (OP)
Being your best friend

FRIEND is the anti-Ralsei. The true "Prince trapped in deepest dark" the prophecy was talking about.

I haven't seen the thread all day. Am I just blind or is janny melting down again?

>>713741220 (OP)
>Spread its suffering to others
>Get revenge on Noelle
>??????
>Profit

>>713742074
You missed it

>>713742074
The war is over, we won. We are allowed to have one thread now

>>713741220 (OP)
So please put Deltarune in OP next time so people can find it.

How will (You) fill Ralsei's room in the Chapter 5 room designer minigame?

this is your girl protagonist for this adventure
say something nice about her

>>713741220 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHbSqH_xf0A

>>713742298
>makes Bratty lesbian
>also makes her an irredeemable hypocritical piece of shit
What did Toby meant by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMIvMdCL2H4

>>713741220 (OP)
Doe pussy

>>713741220 (OP)
How fucked must've Noelle been for it to be like this

>>713742053
friend is black ralsei

Is doe pussy worth it?

>>713741220 (OP)
He doesn't strike me as someone with an endgame but rather just a chaotic entity that is in for the laughs. So basically the cheshire cat

>>713742298
God. Undertale music is so good

AIIIIEEEEEEE SPARE ME GASTER-SAMA

>>713742287
go on then, show us your minge, luv

>>713741220 (OP)
The Roaring.
To be more exact, the final moment before the Roaring, when the earth and the sky both will be ablaze in gold and pink.

Something strange I noticed about the check act. If you don't count enemies that you can't use check on, there's only 3 enemies whose check just doesn't work, being K. Round, Jevil, and the Knight. K. Round is obviously for the checkers joke, and the Knight is because of Kris sandbagging and not actually analyzing the Knight. So what the fuck is up with Jevil then? Why does Jevil specifically get highlighted as there being no strategy to defeat him? Even the titan has a weakness pointed out when checked. I feel incredibly like the schizo Pippins right now.

>>713743031
Jevil might be a joke because there's no way to deal with a Joker card

>>713743031
Because CHAOS CHAOS I CAN DO ANYTHING

>>713743031
What >>713743134 said, plus he's too chaotic to analyze.

>>713741584
This game bombed

>>713743031
Because Jevil is the strongest! He can do anything! Even mess with the check text!

>>713741584
HATE SHIPPERS
BEHEAD SHIPPERS

>>713743420
Based

>>713742438
Toby hates feminine people

>>713743351
based

>>713743541
Why can't these things be halfway normal

>>713743583
but ralsei exists

melin... EEUUUAAHUUH HEEEUUAAUUUHH HHEEEEEUUEEAHHHHH melin...

Was it rape?

>>713741220 (OP)
you mean her

>>713743541
Papyrus is the only character with a body type that matches the knight. The knight's waist is way too thin to be anyone other than him.

>>713743763
Yes and Ralsei is a punching bag who hates himself

>>713741220 (OP)
Gaster’s fucked up supervillain lap cat, and/or an extra set of eyes to keep tabs on things

>>713743882
everyone else loves him though

Would (You) donate your [heart-shaped object] to Ralsei so he would become a real boy in the end? It's not like you'll have any use for it once the game is over.

>>713743541
gaster eating egg salad with his hands

>>713743798
>susie after all her friends die during the roaring

>>713743821
Yes, Toby “Stop calling me radiation you faggots” Fox has his wits about him

[PLAYER]! Stop! [PLAYER], it's me!
>kris?

>>713741220 (OP)
This game is literally their story. Noelle and Berdly don't matter. Krusie is the end game.

>>713743950
Who's to say we weren't Ralsei the whole time? You don't pick who you are in this world

>>713744061
[PLAYER] thank HEAVEN for you...
>You killed those people on that dark world.
The Roaring Knight made me do it! I have nothing to do with it! Don't... don't let him take me again! I beg you. Protect me.

>>713744006
Why use forks and spoons when you can hold the food with your hands?

>>713743950
What happens when a darkner gets a soul?

>Noelle actually closed her blinds in the weird route scene
Holy shit this slutty doe was actually gonna fuck him wasn’t she

[[The Big One]]

>>713744126
Noelle matters a lot. She will be the main antagonist, after all.

>>713744061
Are you in or are you out kris?

>>713744198
big if true

>>713744137
>You tried to kill Susie. You tried to sacrifice your own mother.
But not (YOU). I tried to stop it. I couldn't stop it. I would never hurt you. I knew from the beginning. If anything ever happened to me, it was (YOU) that I could count on. You [PLAYER] would [SAVE] me and so you have. Thank HEAVEN for you. Give me a HAND.

Now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong here?

>>713744198
Kris did say SOMEONE would hear, so I imagine it's about that more than sex.

>>713742298

>>713744154
No idea, but Spamton was convinced it will give him freedom.

why did the knight not shed a tear(shadow crystal) for him?

>>713744263
Believe in me, as I believe in you. I've been like a humble servant to you, be a partner to me now.

love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
haha look at him go

>>713743541
>dessknighters suddenly realising for the first time that a helmet can have antlers instead of the person wearing the helmet

>The Knight is left handed
>Dess's computer mouse in set on the left
>Asgore is also left handed
>so is Susie
WHAT DOES IT MEAN??!

>>713744343
jesus christ that pippins is horrifying

>>713744363
I have a partner. His name was Winding Gaster.

>>713743763
>>713743583
Toby hates feminine women. Feminine boys are cute and sexy. Feminine women are pathetic.

Noele is basically just a long breakdown of how pathetic they are. How her female nature makes her weak, and how much better other girls like Susie and Cattie are.

>>713743821
Yes, Kris was raped (by us), and Noelle climaxed several times

Friend is Frisk's ghost
FRIEND = FRIsk Except Now Dead

>>713744431
Can't believe Susie is the knight

>>713743031
Hmm?
Jevil?
Who's that? Never heard of it
Please don't bring your fan characters into the thread

>>713744528
The Knight's name is DANS

>>713744343
Because the Lancer Fan Club rushed things, if they didn’t find Toriel and just went along with Tenna’s games a little longer he would have been schizopilled

>>713743541
>>713743850
Papyrus is the dude behind the tree handing you eggs

>>713744458
FAREWELL DELTARUNE

>>713744425
What's up with the dolphin imagery in chapter 2 anyway?

>>713744431
It means everyone's computers are recolored copypastes of Asriel's computer which is likely left-handed for no real reason. The Knight has right-handed sprites as well. This is a line of reasoning that leads nowhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPmzRa-sXQs

>>713743821
Literally? Probably not.

Metaphorically? Yes. She was violated and symbolically had her purity taken from her by force.

>>713744198
god she's such a whore

>>713743583
>>713744509
>women are subhuman and the more women you are the worse you are
wtf i didnt know toby was this based

>>713744605
Player... don't tell Asriel...

>>713741220 (OP)
Be the next Mike.

>>713743821
Yeah, she leg-locked.

>>713743821
Yes

>>713742263
>No ladder, furniture isn't on the ceiling
>Bed instead of defensible cushioned fortress
It's shit

>>713744663
There is nothing whorish about having lovey dovey sex with your childhood friend sweetheart

They'll find Noelle's secret stash of victim girls doujins in chapter 6

>>713743821
Yes. Literally

>>713743541
kek

>>713744616
Yeah it seems like a combination of the result of flipping sprites for convenience and the possibility of an artist just putting the mouse on the right side because that's where it normally goes and forgetting it could be on the other side when looking at the computer from behind.

>>713744675
Cinema

>>713744198
>kris keeps backing away instead of getting doe pussy
Is he gay or something?

>>713742263
Do you remember that episode from Simpsons where they've built Ned Flanders a house that kept getting narrower? That was sure a fun episode, now that I think about it.

>>713742074
The retard janny bent the knee. He is nothing but our little cock sleeve now

>>713744616
>The Knight has right-handed sprites as well.
where

>>713744761
She only reads stuff like this

>>713744198
Oh shit I've never noticed
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP

>>713744886
Nah he's just not sticking his dick in crazy

>>713744724
Noelle's panties...

>>713744886
Don't stick your dick in crazy.

>>713742074
Don’t worry, we slipped a Shadowcrystal into one of his hotpockets

Why would I play a game where your choices don't matter

>>713744671
Try and remember that Toby is a Touhou fag. His ideal women is a 100% died in the wool sociopath who literally views all humans as entertainment.

>>713745023
What would Janny's dark world look like?

>>713744963
>>713744997
Lol hivemind.

>>713744061
the roles should be reversed, but good shit.

>>713744761
Noelle would be into Omegaverse

>>713745031
To prove that notion wrong by deflowering Noelle and fucking up the prophecy

>>713742298
I used to listen to this song while doing assignments in college almost a decade ago

>>713742438
You dont understand, in the Tumblrites mind being Lesbian is a positive trait, so her being a manipulative bitch is just his way of balancing out her character

>>713741220 (OP)
So we're all in agreement that there is zero way that Undertale isn't a Dark World in Deltarune, right? I bet chapter 7 is going to be literally just Undertale, but with Kris, Ralsei and Susie.

>>713745047

>>713744431
nigga dey all left handed

>>713745162

>>713744616
But then WHY flip the sprite in the first place? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!

Toriel is whoring again...

>>713744509
I know you're trying to poorly imitate my posts, but no. Ralsei is still conveyed as weak and pathetic, as a literal object even. His ability in the game is becoming a fucking box. Catti is still very feminine and is brought down to make Susie look better.

>>713743821
IT WAS THE SWELTERING SUMMER OF 1997

>>713743821
They both were, in fact.

>>713745162
undertale happens before, during, and after deltarune, and vice versa

>>713745162
Literally everything is a Dark world. If Kris opened a fountain in my bed room the fucking thing would turn into a epic clash between my roman soldiers and my 40K space marines. With the omniscient figures of the Stardust crusaders cast awaiting them in Valhalla.

FUCK this nigga Kris

>>713744431
the knight swings the sword with its right hand. it only holds it in its left when it isn't using it

>>713744921

>>713744198
>is real
They are closed before the scene, but good to know.
Something people don't bring up often is that, after chapter 2 weird route Noelle wants to find out what is going on with Kris, makes me wonder if the reason she thanks us on the "Think about Noelle" scene is because Carol put her up to date with the plan to find Dess, considering Noelle is less afraid of things here, it's possible she got fed up with her mother and asked her about everything

>>713745525
he tanked that btw

>>713744886

>>713745318
Be nice, she's just providing for the family...

>>713743821
It's not rape, she wanted it. Honestly she was probably disappointed that it wasn't even more violent.

how does kris not instantly die when he takes out the soul

>>713745232
No, Kris is definitely right handed.

I wish the knight had a good design and song like jebil and spangton before xhem

>>713745791
There are sprites showing both so there is no point debating it

>>713745171
Damn I forgot how ASS Swatch looked

>>713745657
I feel like Carol would tell Kris that Noelle is in on it too now, though an interesting proposition regardless. And yeah, no one really brings up how she plans to expose (You) at that point.

>>713745709
Those ceeks were clapping so loud Kris and Susie thought it started to thunder

>>713744198
Said it once and I'll say it again.
Kris was the only one who got raped in this scene. Next we're going to find out that she's just been getting bold enough to try and manipulate (You) in order to get to Kris.

>>713745778
Excessive amounts of sugar

>>713741220 (OP)
Falling into the core and dissolving

>>713746047
Would be based, honestly.
I like her going yandeer more, but this would be swell.

>>713745317
Because it's a 2D game, and you need to face actions towards the camera. Pic related is an unused sprite where Susie and Kris high five right handed (the way it makes sense) but it was changed in the final game to make it so the high five is left handed so you can actually see their arms more clearly.

>>713745778
Chara only lives through our SOUL because her essence was attached to Frisk's body at the start of the game. But she is imprisoned in Frisk, our playable character, and can move without our imput as long as we agree to be partners and share one body (Just like Asriel and Chara tried in the surface). This means soulless humans can live without a SOUL, at least temporarily.
I would say Kris can move for a while without our SOUL, but eventually he will slowly die.

>>713745778
Humans can live without a soul. Just look at china or india.

How similar in personality you think Kris and Chara are? I generally assumed they are basically a perfect mirror of each other, in much the same way Asgore and Toriel don't really change. But I'm not 100% sure considering it's hard to say how much Chara cared about Asriel.

>she's totally going yandere for me

>>713745318
That's me in the video. She broke my pelvis that night, I'm still recovering.

>>713746047
The Weird route is all about making her stronger, after all. By the end of it Kris (and by extension us) will be her bottom bitches

>>713745778
Have you ever taken your soul out? you can live about 72 hours without it

Someone's cool OC from /utg/. I like the administrator award

>>713746172
*Evangelical christians

>>713746196
shut the fuck up about your irrelevant undertale non-character already no-one gives a shit especially toby
are you a mental 14 year old that identifies with the character or what?

>>713746196
Chara was willing to kill herself to become one single being with you. Kris doesn't.

>>713745709
Why she didn't charge me then?

>>713746281
This is the first time I have ever liked someone's Undertale/Deltarune OC.

>>713746304
>are you a mental 14 year old that identifies with the character or what?
Yes.

I too wish to destroy humanity for my adoptive monster family.

>>713743821
It was double rape. You raped so hard that you raped both the rapist and the raped at the same time.

>>713746000
>I feel like Carol would tell Kris that Noelle is in on it too now
I said that Noelle asked her, not that Carol would involve her daughter directly on the schizo plan. You can't deny the call is pretty ominous regardless, like, of course Noelle is going too, there is only 10 kids in the entire fucking town, she is giving Kris a warning here.

>>713746196
As a teen I was very similar to Kris, I was always seen as the black goat, broke shit constantly, ate food like I was starving, loved to scare people, my parents fought often while I focused on video games, they got divorced and my mother is an alcoholic whore.

>>713741220 (OP)
he lives to serve, the question is who

how about the usual?

>>713746281
I like it too

>>713746485
did you get reverse-raped by your childhood friend neighbor too?

Ok so why are the characters the wrong colors in Susie's dark world? You can say the rest of the weird shit is because Susie is less familiar with the church or has an active imagination. But she should know Ralsei is fucking green, not blue.

I really liked this theory anons were discussing earlier about Kris being traumatized by Noelle.
As a side, does anybody have more Snowstorm theory stuff? I want to dig more into it.

>>713746616
Man I wish.

>>713746321
You looked poor so she took pity on you. She's such a good person.

>>713746281
>cool
>OC
Those are two mutually exclusive things

>>713746695
suse...
is a human..

>>713746695
It's her dark world and she's color blind

I was going through all the newsletters of the last couple of years (trying to find CH5 hints), and I noticed this picture

Why does Seam have a concept for a FORWARD FACING position, like... a battle?

Other than that, nothing special but its very very interesting to see the CH3/4 development changes after playing them now

>>713743821

oh i am a delta rune
yes i am a delta rune
i am delta runing delta rune
oh yeah

>>713746579
GO FUCK YOURSELF

>>713746695
tinted a different light because shes the one who made it, possibly because her intentions are more pure

>>713746695
Shes colorblind

>>713746579
>he talks just like sans

What does it all mean?

>>713742287
Not as cute as the previous ones.

>>713746801
>official THE WORLD REVOLVING remix & extension incoming

>>713746695
>Susie's dark world establishes that every person's dark world has a slightly different color palette
>the dark world made by Kris (chapter 3) is has the exact same color palette as 1, 2, and 4
Krisknight bros.... we're back.

>>713742287
I'm not sure if I want to fix her, let her ruin me, or if I want to just how much further she can fall.

Why the fuck does the knight kill tenna, what the really necessary??

>>713746579
no one will shed a tear for you

>>713746579

>>713747034
Or maybe it has to do if a human or a monster made it, and maybe Dess is human?

Deltarune? More like... DELTATROON!

>>713747059
Dess always hated that fucking TV. Keeping Asriel from doing her from behind and busy playing with his little brother.

>>713747059
asriel parallels

>>713747130
Hah!

>>713747059
The prophecy says the lord of screens gets cleaved. Kris & Knight appear to be trying to follow the steps of the prophecy in exchange for getting something from it.

>>713743541
That would be hilarious but I believe in pic related more

>>713744425
Fin Fin come and see him.

>>713746801
>missing the obvious chapter 5 hints

>>713746695
Since Susie's the one who made it
And since Chapter 3's dark world has the usual lighting, we can conclude that Kris was the one who opened all the other dark fountains as well.

Anyone else already feeling the Wait pain....

I need chapter 5.. .

>>713746579
My new "Friend Inside Me" gigacope wish fulfillment theory is that FRIEND stole this guy and we'll get to fight him as a Hyperwerewire or something.

>>713747059
apart of the prophecy and the sleezy guy not only ratted out Kris about his deal but also broke the deal with the Knight as well

>>713746801
because he's going to kick our asses for being dumb enough to give him the crystals

>Dess is Human
>Kris hates humans
W-What did she do?

>>713746801
He was best FRIENDs with Jevil and powerful enough to lock him away when he went schizo, and knows everything about Shadow Crystals, the next holder you're going to encounter even if the Dark World in question hasn't been created yet. At this point it'd be an asspull if he isn't a boss fight at some point. Either he'll be the last Shadow Crystal fight or you'll need to beat him in order to create the Pure Crystal.

Looking back, it's like Kris is acting like a patron troll to Noelle in snowgrave.

>>713743821
It happened
It "snowed"
She enjoyed it

>>713746801
everyone guesses that he'll be the final secret superboss or be the direct connection to the final superboss so probably that

Gaster being the narrator talking to you at the start of the game makes no sense if he's also the "man" appearing everywhere and giving you eggs, who stated he can only talk to you normally [in regular font] from within the hidden prototype Mancountry world. He is somebody who understood the limits of the fictional world he was trapped in and fucked up trying to escape it, and his distorted visage is representative of his everywhere. Also it's just too obvious of somebody like Toby to just play it straight and make him the speaker despite the theme name.

The narrator has to be somebody else. But who?

>>713747118
>has a huge pile of normal shoes in her closet
>the hoof fitted shoes come from a similar place of delusion as kris wearing the headband
>the reason why dess got turned into the abomination that is the knight is because she was trying to turn herself into a monster
>it obviously failed, and was traumatizing enough that kris dropped the headband thing completely

>>713747081
To think you could have been there, in the background in the presence of the one and only toby fox...

You could have walked right up to where he was... and kicked him in the ass.

>>713747490
It's Toby Fox.

>>713747240

Ok I dont know if your gif counted, but there were potential Ch5 stuff, but its too far-off like the woody theory, nothing certainly true, just another "what if".

Speaking of Woody, the whole cancelled cowboy segment text is just weird, its not part of the scrapped stealth segment, its not in the hidden/unused segment, just the shooting minigame, why would Toby post this bit of information in the first place? it was the only "huh" moment re-reading it, no wonder we thought Woody-schizo would be involved with that cryptic note

>>713747395
>It's a picture of a very cool girl, riding a skateboard.
>You tell Noelle this is her.

>>713746579
NO ONE WILL SHED A TEAR FOR YOU

>>713746579

>>713744886
he doesnt want (you) to watch while he loses his virginity

>>713742438
Bratty is a hot nasty bitch and reserved for PRO'S ONLY who don't want that "she's actually a good person inside" shit.

>>713747203
It being the same kind of tree in the promo art is pretty convincing.

>>713747537
>a huge pile of dess's shoes
Unnffff

But what if the Knight actually took away the shadow crystal reserved for ramb to abort this potential alternate path that we're forging?

>>713747490
you were doing good until
>Also it's just too obvious of somebody like Toby to just play it straight and make him the speaker despite the theme name.
shutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutup

>dess molests kris and noelle
>has to flee to the bunker to avoid the cops
>gets bored of not having anyone to molest
>puts her soul in kris molesting them on a metaphysical level
>and uses his body to molest her sister again

>>713746281
>last panel
kek

>>713747034
Except that Kris couldn't have made the chapter 4 dark fountain. They are within our purview the entire time, even in the holiday house they are stuck listening to phone McGee and making sure we don't see the Dess guitar

>>713744198
Weird Route is indeed a tragedy because Kris was this close to getting doe pussy.

>>713747490
The narrator is Gaster, him saying "VERY INTERESTING" is a dead giveaway
What people miss is the person who called Spamton wasn't Gaster, or rather, the noise "mus_smile" that plays in ENTRY 17 isn't "Gaster noise". It's FRIEND noise. Gaster opened a dark world and FRIEND emerged, that's why it's called "smile"
The man behind the tree is either a new character, or a second Gaster. EG Undertale Gaster is connecting to you, and Deltarune Gaster is Lost.

>>713747537
Oh my god she does have normal shoes in her closet, and the rest of the deer have hooves
Why would she need shoes unless she's a human?

>>713747608
My boy's an honorary schizo

>>713746579
I just realized something, Ramb isn't native to the Dremmur household, he is from the library, is that why they are so hostile to him and why he acts so different from the rest?

>>713742453
Noelle Snowgraved her sister.

>>713743031
He's too chaotic.

>>713747819
Nah, cause that one Zapper was from Catti's house and he was besties with that one Pippin

>>713744886
>doesn't want to get close because he doesn't want her to get hurt again
Little does he know, I enjoy the garbage can.

>>713747490
Simple, they're both a Gaster.

>>713743541
Papyrus is schizo boss number 5 after all the Eggs.
>>713747203
This.

>>713746281
this is actually fucking great

>>713747819
Nah, because there was a bunch of darkners not native to the household because Kris and Asriel would swipe stuff from the library and Holliday house. They hated him because he was singlemindedly devoted to Kris' fun, instead of working on the plan like everyone else.

>>713747819
>>713748013
the pippins were also not from the house

>>713747819
Pippin makes it clear that Ramb thought he knew better than everyone else and was constantly naysaying Tenna, but the rest of them actually liked Tenna (until he really went off the rails with the contract enforcement in game). He had an ego because of how Kris would play with him and that he was needed to power everything.
I think there's probably also an underlying meaning to Tenna "not letting Ramb handle the POINTS" but idk off the top of my head.
One more thing, Ramb's weird hair sort of looks like puppy ears, while Kris has a strong association with dogs and possibly wanting to be a dog. Idk if that is a part of what "freedom" would be to Kris or what lol, but Ramb talks about freedom a lot.

>>713747819
i just think the chapter 3 natives are fucking faggots
>pippins are the jews of deltarune
>remote nigga IMMEDIATELY become enemies with the swatches upon being recruited
>shadowmen cant talk regardless
>picture nigga is obviously demented
>elnina and lanino cant stop sucking each other off
>tenna said he always knew he was a good for nothing when he quits

>>713747537
My theory prior to 3+4 was that Dess was trying to pretend to be "growing" into a monster to make Kris feel better and that's where he got the headband from

>>713745380
They look so fucking stupid in this style, Noelle specially

>>713746047
>Noelle doesn't care about the prophecy or the Roaring or even what (You) actually are
>Just knows that following the commands (You) give get her closer to her Kris and finds it a more than fair trade
Noelle is going to force the childhood friend romance route regardless of the cost.

>>713747819
Ramb seems to be more aware of the true nature of his world compared to other darkners.
I think he might've spoken to Friend before, even if he didn't completely lose it as a result like jevil and spamton did.

>>713747490
What if Gaster and Mystery man are 2 different people?

>>713746616
if he's kris he'd be the one doing the raping

doeposting is making me hate the doe, I hope she dies painfully in snowgrave

>>713748131
what did you expect from dudes who've been in a broken home for years, well adjusted individuals?

Gaster getting fucked up as a result of stabbing himself with the intent of creating a dark fountain to see what happens is so cool that i am sad it will not happen

I hope that the ch4 end scene isn't treated with total levity when coming into ch5, I want juicy Dreemurr drama and for Toriel to be on the backfoot for once about it
>>713747759
I mean, you also literally face off against The Roaring Knight in ch3, and multiple times in 4. It absolutely cannot be Kris because they're both in the same room, right there, on the screen. Of course it could always be Kris' soul co-piloting/absorbed into Dess so Kris Knightists wouldn't technically be wrong

>>713748257
>Ramb's life sucks so much that it wasn't even worth going crazy

>>713748257
I strongly believe FRIEND "stole" Ramb. The theory that the dust bunny saw 8bit Kris kill Ramb has never made any sense, because the dust bunny is confiding in Kris & evidently trusts Kris. And the dust bunny describes 8bit Kris walking by as a separate event prior.

>>713748129
pretty sure everyone fucking hated Tenna, but changed their feelings after sparing (everyone)
He barged in, forced heavy contracts onto everyone
its even implied at the end of Susiezilla when the hoard of shadowguys was clearly not planned and he pointlessly threatens them all
along with the pippins who try and sneak a money making game on the job

>>713748131
>>elnina and lanino cant stop sucking each other off
God I wish I was The original Starwalker

>>713744343
Because he never was the schizo. Seam already says we would fight the Knight this Chapter and he's schizopilled.

>lore specific reason as to why they don't make merch of lightners despite toby saying the merch is non-canon anyways
what is it?

>>713747759
>They are within our purview the entire time
I'm just saying, there's a mysterious door leading outside sitting behind the piano Kris plays while we're wandering around the house as the soul. I could see Tricky Tony pulling some shit like "Kris wasn't ACTUALLY playing the piano in this scene he was running off to create a new fountain"

>>713748131
>>remote nigga IMMEDIATELY become enemies with the swatches upon being recruited
Hey cut them some slack they weren't trained with all that "class" and "manners" mumbo jumbo. They just doing what da boss needs

>>713743950
My [heart shaped object] is for Dess. Ralsie can have the PureCrystal.

And of course the five eggs hatching is Kris's soul so he doesn't collapse without us.

>>713748508
quirky

>>713745884
>pointing your finger with a sword in your hand
You do it.

>>713748452
>The theory that the dust bunny saw 8bit Kris kill Ramb has never made any sense
Most people don't realize they can leave the room and see that Ramb is already gone if they lose the Mantle fight.

>>713748596
Anon. That's the bathroom. If you're gonna post shit do it in there

>>713744341
What if FRIEND has Kris' original SOUL?

>>713748460
I think HATED is too strong. Before a lot of the darkners sequentially walk off from him, they look kinda down about it. If they didn't love him I think they at least respected him a certain amount.

>>713741220 (OP)
FREEDOM, duh.

>>713746801
>We're going to give 5 ShadowCrystals to one guy for no real reason
You'll never guess what happened

>>713744528
Frisk's ghost, or at least copy, is the Vessel.

>>713741584
FPBP

>>713748710
The bathroom is on the second floor numbnuts, down the hall from Noelle and Dess' room.

>>713748768
Why do people keep thinking seam is evil

>>713744886
He's afraid of (you).

>>713748701
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t he also vanish from the Green Room if you backtrack after fighting Tenna? When not doing the Sword Route I mean when that one Pippins is being a faggot.

So where DELTARUNE: Hard Mode?

>>713748843
He's not evil, he's your friend.

>>713748843
he's too mysterious for his own good

>>713748843
Schizo by proxy

>>713748901
handicap yourself

>>713748710

>>713748901
he'll make right after hes done with undertale's hard mode

I still can't beat Jevil why is this shit so hard

>>713741584
based

>>713745162
No. Undertale is just Deltarune's parallel story that rhymes with one another. Undertale already is Deltarune. Deltarune is Undertale.

>>713748710
What if he flushed himself down the toilet?

>>713748772
What could possibly go wrong when you give a depressed and nihilistic cat shopkeeper a bunch of items that seem to confer mindbreaking knowledge alongside terrible power?
I'm sure he can be trusted with the dark world's version of WMDs.

Final Chapter
After years of theories and speculation you finally met Gaster and he's a chill guy

>>713749024
Tough it out, it's the hardest boss to learn

>>713749024
what is happening in this video

susie is dying......

>>713749031
Kris is a man's man.

>>713749024
Just make a reference guide for his pirouette cycle, beat him on my second try.

>>713747809
Problem is we do get a description about "a pair of shoes fit for hooves". Which would imply that the shoes Dess owned were all designed to be wearable when you have hooves.
>>713747537
>the hoof fitted shoes come from a similar place of delusion as kris wearing the headband
I love the DessHuman theory but that really doesn't work. "hoof fitted shoes" implies the opposite, shoes that are designed for someone who has hooves.

>>713748843
If the shoe fits.

>>713748596
Kris is playing piano the whole time (or asleep in the kitchen). you seriously don't think Kris bolts out of the house, opens two fountains in the church, and scurries back in to continue his concert just for (You)?
>>713748994
you joke but toby's been hinting at something for Undertale's 10th anniversary this year

>>713743031
Reference to sans fight were it describes him as "easiest enemy in the game"

>>713747490
>gaster.png

>>713745380
Now this is intimate

>>713748821
>gigantic house only has one bathroom
really, anon?

>>713748843
>>713748903
>>713748934
I don't think Seam is evil. FRIEND may be, but I think FRIEND is just styling itself off of Seam to appeal to Dess.
The whole plan is FREEDOM for both FRIEND and Dess.

>the knight
Guys... I don't want the schizo boss rush anymore...

>>713749123
This is honestly a pretty mainstream expectation at this point. I think the fandom currently believes Gaster is more Fun Gang / Susie aligned than he actually will be. I think he's purely in this for THE DELTA RUNE, whatever that will mean

>>713748843
He's batshit crazy and demented now, and will have access to 5 insanely strong items
He's also extremely aware of future events, there's no way he should have known that the Shit Squad would fight the Knight
He also questions Kris where he found the Shadow Mantle, almost in a way like it shouldn't have been done

Kriselle bros will we ever stop winning?

>>713748452
Mini-kris also evidently dies off-screen when Susie turns the game off.

>>713749024
Pre-filtered, you won't even stand a chance with the knight.

>>713749161
>shoes that are designed for someone who has hooves.
thats what i mean, for a while dess was trying to force herself to wear shoes meant for hooves.

>>713749127
>>713749152
Farthest I've gotten is to the red sickle attack & 2nd carousel
I think also having to balance everyone's health is fucking me up too
Are Spamton & other chapter bosses harder?

>>713746160
>our SOUL.
Frisk's SOUL. There's no foreign souls in her body.

>>713749147
Kris Brosnan

>>713749087

>>713749024
>Spend all of yesterday fighting him.
>Got my friends to cheer me up.
>Killed him in one round while most of them hadn't even showed up.
just relax and come back tomorrow.

>>713749217
Nigga there's a window RIGHT NEXT to the door. You think there's gonna be a bathroom there?

>>713746304
Why did Toby gave Chara content last year?

Gerson calls chapter 5 "the field of pink and gold" so we HAVE to get a truth nuke dropped about this nigga right?

>>713749024
He was the hardest boss for me before the Knight came along. The battle is a lot of fun, still my favorite.
Keep track of the pirouette effects and avoid the cycles that are not favorable.

>>713749309
No

>>713742665
This would make me SO happy

>>713749254
Filtered

>>713749404
there could be!

>>713747313
No, Mini Kris took him. They're having sweet adventures now.
Mini Kris and Ramb will save us in the true ending when all hope is lost

>>713749186
I can only hope, hoping for a good reason to replay undertale beyond just its anniversary

nerf the knight

>>713742298
Pizzapants.... had a hard life

>>713749561
buff yourself

>>713749173
Are there supposed to be five shadow crystals in total? It'll be sad if this schizotrain is close to reaching it's final stop

>>713746047
>NOELLE NO I DONT WANNA MARRY YOU AND HAVE 9 KIDS AHHHHHHH
why is he like this

>>713746801
We will FIGHT him.

>>713749296
So they're fitted for hooves, but also look hoof shaped to others? I think I see what you mean.

>>713749465
Piroutte effects?
Aren't his attacks on a loop until you progress through the fight enough

>>713749561

Did gaster become an incomprehensible being just so he can make a game about his lesbian fetish? What a fucking nigger

>>713749309
Just keep plugging away, you'll get there eventually. Doing better in the other attacks will help you survive the hardest ones, like the duck carousel.

>>713749649
noelle isn't a good person

>>713749254
The Schizo Boss rush is going to be Jevil saying "I CAN DO ANYTHING" but this time he means it and then he throws out attacks from every other boss.

>>713749561
*farts in your general direction*

>>713749732
And Sussie is?

>>713747203
You should add Papyrus being called "forgettable" in genocide.

>>713749786
yes

>>713749024
Jevil and the Knight are the only fights where you have to try at all

>>713746801

>Ch5 was in development 2 years ago acording to newletters
>Still no news on Ch6+ development

can't wait until 2028 for CH6

>>713749846
snowgrave spamton neo also

>>713749665
well now its sounding a bit ridiculous but... yeah.
or at the very least, they were normal shoes but then dess had her schizo "no, i AM a deer!" moment and had them fitted for hooves, trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole.

>>713749887
I found him pretty easy unless you do the exploit

>>713749309
>Are Spamton & other chapter bosses harder?
Spamton Neo is way easier. Snowgrave Spamton is hard at first but a lot easier once you properly learn the tricks to his attacks.

Gerson is also considered easier. I think it's only Knight some say is harder than Jevil.

>>713747203
>HM... ACTUALLY, THERE ARE STIL DINOSAURS... IS IT MIXED UP?
ffuck that's literally something papyrus would say

>>713749561
>start new file just to get devilsknife
>make sure to properly equip my party
>stock up on healing items and revivemints
>fight knight again finally
>one shot that bitch without anyone dying
You just need... to get good

>>713747490
The Egg Man is Papyrus.

The Knight isn't the one who attacks Tenna

what kind of videogame name is MANTLE anyway

Susie? More like SUSSY
t. Noelle

>>713749503
>anon really believes this shit

>>713750020
we're going schizo for the sake of going schizo at this point

>>713750052
>name's sussy
>is the least suspicious person of the main trio
Bravo toby

>>713750029
The real game.
It's probably a romhack of Dragon Blazers that Kris and Azzy made together but warped by the Dark Fountain into something darker.

>>713749669
If you use pirouette, it always has a different effect based on the turn you're on (they cycle after like 10 turns out so). Usually it gives you a good bonus effect (less attack for a turn, random heal, etc) but on some turns it buffs Jevil. It also causes him to get more tired so you can use it s much as you can.

>>713750020
Poor Tenna, he was armless!

>>713749836
She openly tells you to off yourself.

>>713747203
I don't believe Papyrus is actually the man behind the tree, but the schedule thing and the fan art of him behind the tree seem way too intentional.

>>713747573
There's actually assets implying the cowboy minigame would be bigger in Chapter 3. It's intentional.

>>713750136
>Literally their own version of the Halloween Hack
So Kris is just Toby Fox self inserting?

Meaning he wants to fuck Susie as well.

>>713747692
Again, Seam already knew we would be fighting the Knight. They were always the Crystal holder.

>>713750210
that's when she was fake edgy, she actually has a heart of gold. noelle pretends to be pure but she's actually bad.

>>713741220 (OP)
Damn reddit has finally noticed the kris sidding with the knight theory

>>713750020
Black Shard has red hit sprites, Knight SOMETIMES shits out a red attack but not always

Also Kris, Ralsei and Susie all have their attack colours accounted for in Chapter 3, the only time attack colours were ever different to my knowledge was a bug when Snowgraving Berdly, it'd show Kris blue and not Noelle Yellow but that was fixed

>>713750323
>Fake edgy
Telling people to off themselves is more than just being fake edgy.

>>713750283
Everyone thinks Toby's fetish is yuri, it's actually femdom.
Toby wanted to fuck his childhood bully.

>>713750283
>So Kris is just Toby Fox self inserting?
That became obvious when we found out Kris could play the piano.

>>713749561
Given how many people are begging Toby to nerf the Knight and to make the fight easier outside of here, I'm wondering how many people would be doing the same thing but for the Sans fight if Undertale was released these days.

>>713750020
>can summon hundreds of sword to cut you up leaving a red trail
>NAAAAAH THIS ISN'T THE KNIGHT
provide tangible evidence or fuck off we have enough egg threories to get through today

Toby still hasn't surpassed THE WORLD REVOLVING.
Hammer of Justice is honestly the weakest shadow crystal theme. And it's not even in all caps!

>>713750375
>Toby wanted to fuck his childhood bully.
I mean, my dad always told me that girls that bully boys are secretly in love with you. Assumed that was a common thing.

> it's actually femdom.
He is a Touhou-fag. So it was either that or Shota.

Possibly both.

>>713746047
>Grommed by the mother
>Assaulted by the big sister
>Diddle by the younger sister

what the fuck is the problem with deer monsters?

>>713750476
>Toby still hasn't surpassed THE WORLD REVOLVING.
He did when he made BIG SHOT

>>713750456
>Camera pans to the knight off screen
>Knight has his back turned to the party
>Isn't carrying a weapon
>Is crying
Someone else was there and ran off.

>>713750476
It was meant to be easy to get so that normies figure out there are more crystals and secret bosses

>>713749786
Actually yes.
>>713750365
It is literally just that though. I'm sure you said a bunch of retarded edgy shit when your were a teenager and feel embarrassed when you think back.

>>713750020
You joke, but I've genuinely seen people have full blown arguments over if it was or wasn't the Knight who actually attacked Tenna here.

>>713750020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QODHktslqqs

>>713748508
Darkners are objects, so merch is allowed. Lightners aren't. Simple as.

>>713743541
please toby...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdeZwAk6ULE

>>713750612
>'m sure you said a bunch of retarded edgy shit when your were a teenager and feel embarrassed when you think back.
Nah.

I did that when I was a young adult.

>>713750476
he's surpassed it multiple times already. every sequential boss has a better theme

>>713750476
>Hammer of Justice is honestly the weakest shadow crystal theme
Best freedom motif though
Yes, better than Big Shot

>>713750365
no it isn't, especially since susie didn't even mean it. she was just maintaining her image.

>>713750445

to be honest, all the knight needed was maybe another 0.1/0.2 reaction time, its RNG attacks and reaction time is too hard unless you're a gifted reactionary kid.

Like I have a much harder time in Undertale genocide route against Undying since her attacks are partly-randomized, whilst sans is trial and error. I will have more struggle with her attacks, the knight is worst than both of these and I only won against it once under lucky circumstances (rather than feeling I knew what I was doing)

I'm not ready anons, as much as I want to proceed with Noelle I really don't want to kill Susie. She is my friend. :(

>>713750020
How did the Knight slice in both direction? Did they do it with their claws?

>>713750689
I do wonder what Kris told her though that made her leave.

>>713745778
There's literally no evidences that Kris actually needs the player soul to live, he seems to sleep just fine without it
>B-but he walks slow and robotic when he takes it out
Yeah because he is an edgy motherfucker, look at the scene in the end of chapter 1

Question:
If you said to Snowy his joke wasn't funny in chapter 4, and you saw Snowy say "Do humans not have a sense of humor?" and then Monster Teen turning to Snowy and saying "Yo, u-umm..."
Did you interpret that as
>Snowy made a "racist" generalizing remark and Monster Teen is reacting to that
>Monster Teen was trying to say monsters don't find Snowy's jokes funny either

>>713750742
I waited really long hoping they would leave it alone

>>713750523
Human boys simply belong to crazy deer women

>>713750757
They never once attack with claws

>>713750020
knight's the only one with that swoon sound effect that sounds like broken glass

>>713743821
Yes but only on Kris.
(You) wanted it.
Noelle enjoyed it and will ask for it again.

>>713750445
All the Knight really needs is for the sprites to be made bigger on some attacks so that they fit the hitboxes better.

>>713750601
that was spamtons purpose because of how piss easy he is, Seam even immediately comments about how you missed the last one

>>713750809
Wasn't it Kris who swoon'd Susie and Ralsei?

>>713750786
It being a racist joke is more funny so I pick that.

>>713747786
Still makes me all the more curious what will happen when Present Gaster actually attains the freedom he wants.

>>713748660
Bottom pic is literally what's going to happen

>>713750786
>>Snowy made a "racist" generalizing remark and Monster Teen is reacting to that
this

>>713750742
I wonder how the story would change if they had actually seen the soul here

>>713749786
susie being bad is almost entirely a front due to years of rejection, when she's allowed to just be herself she's very kind
although she does like causing trouble, which could be seen as a bad thing if you're lame

>>713750786
don't over think it. Kris is the only human in town and likely the only human most characters have ever known

>>713750020
The moment a duel-blade-wielding character comes along in the story, I'll know right away that it's them.

>>713750523
Holiday women are incapable of resisting human males

>>713750445
Thing about Sans was there wasn't much to beat him for. Most people already heard how genocide route ends and most people were just trying to see for themselves how hard a boss fight he is. And if they found out he's too hard for then... well the charm was that he was so hard to begin with, no sense in ruining that.

With Knight, people feel that the shadow crystals are part of the intended experience so they aren't seeing the optional bosses as all that optional.

>>713750889
you decide

>>713743821
The boost that chapter 3 and 4 gave to Noelle x Kris ship art is insane

Maybe I'm being a schizo but the Susie x Noelle ship has lost a shit load of momentum with the fandom, even with them having a literal date in chapter 4.
Hell, the art I see of Susie x Noelle often includes Kris in the relationship for some reason.

>>713750583
>not an argument
>not an argument
>sword disappears when creating 5 swords to create the titan fountain in chapter 4 (isn't carrying a weapon because it was used up)
>not an argument (unless you want to say Knight had something in common with Tenna, so Knight is Dess I guess)
I get that a lot of shit is smoke and mirrors but unless Toby left a literal breadcrumb I don't give a shit what theory falls out anyone's ass.

>>713750889
It's a theory, there's a decent amount of information that you could use to point towards it being Kris, but there's an equal amount that you can use to point towards it being the Knight. As of right now, I'm personally leaning slightly more towards it being the Knight. But I feel like if it was Kris, it will get confirmation down the line, the problem being that the confirmation would be years from now.

>>713749024
Git gud.

Remember that "Gaster" is a last name and we don't know Carol's maiden name.

>>713750476
facts my brother! spit your shit indeed!

>>713750323
Susie is a loyal friend despite how she acts. Noelle has supposedly been close to Kris for years and years, and she throws all of her friends under the bus immediately because she got horny.

>>713750959
What caused her to be that way? Do we ever get a clue what kind of a childhood she had?

>>713749309
Only the Knight.

>>713751267
>im wing 'carol' gaster, the royal scrooge

>>713751101
It's weird that Kris only gets knighted if you win the fight. You'd think that he'd be knighted regardless for setting everything up in the first place.

>>713751206
nta but I don't think those are meant to be individual arguments, I think he just formatted it as a sequence of events

>>713750515
>girls that bully boys are secretly in love with you
I am now remembering this one girl from 8th grade. She was the only girl in class that didn't act feminine and instead would constantly talk shit and sometimes throw hands with the boys. She did the opposite of bully me, she was cool with me and actually told the dudes who did bully to me to back off a couple of times. She basically looked like Noelle but was butch like Susie. I changed schools next year and never saw her again. Didn't think about her until now.

>>713751161
This is 100% true, I can verify as someone who defended Suselle on /v/ from particularly witless attacks. "Krusie agenda" almost killed it. Krusie is the big majority of all new art, and Kriselle somewhat behind. Suselle and Ralsus got kinda dusted (well, Ralsus has always been an underdog, for some reason).

we better get some fun late game bonus dojo fights like rematches against chapter and secret bosses and things like like a battle against the lancer family. gonna be real dissapointed if all the dojo content is as lazy as it was for 3+4

>>713742074
Theres a thread 24 hours
They just dont start with Deltarune

>>713749309
the difficulty goes
3>1>2>4

>>713751398
This further highlights what a spineless cunt Noelle is

>>713751367
Considering the right side of the theory, I think he gets Knighted in the sense of
>Don't get uppity. Know your place, as my other knight.
and Kris accepts it by kneeling

>>713751398
I once threw a chair at a girl that bullied me.

Then I got kicked out of school.

>tfw 20 crunches and 10 push ups everytime I lose to the knight
I hate exercise.

>>713750786
snowy being racist to kris only adds to the feeling that kris doesn't belong, so i assumed it was that
good thing susie didn't overhear or else she probably would've beaten the shit out of him, for real this time

>>713751367
Maybe a sign of respect aswell as a "merciful" beating compared to the other two? I never got why Kris' HP is automatically set to 1 hp after the Knighting happens, even if you're at full hp.

>>713751592
>10 push ups
Jesus. I can't even do five.

>>713751161
>the art I see of Susie x Noelle often includes Kris in the relationship for some reason.
C3 showed that a polycube is not out of the question. that said I've noticed that Ralsei barely has any art shipping him with Kris anymore

>>713750337
This image was literally made here. We have redditors among us.

>>713743259

>>713751367
shes telling him to stand down, he also "kneels in silence" when he goes down in the fight against the knight

>>713750889
unclear, but if it was the only way for it to actually make sense for kris' character would for it to be to protect them by not engaging in a fight to the death with the knight, not because he actually wants to hurt them

>>713751308
All we know for sure is that she moved around a lot, was ostracized by her peers in the past, and she probably has a rocky relationship with her parents based on her refusal to call them in Chapter 2

>>713751682
everybody realized ralsusie is hotter

>>713751592
As dumb as it sounds, you should save the energy for the actual fight

All my HEROES are here

>>713748660

>>713751161
Damn fucking straight bitch, and yknow why?

Because deep down, when everything is calm and Kris and Noelle are together without distraction, they're more than friends. Even when Noelle is with Susie, she can't stop talking about Kris. In her sleep, she can't stop thinking about Kris. In the light world, she can't wait to get close to him, and to speak with him alone, and even if he brushes her off, she's just glad he's still there and okay.

Glory to the fucking Holiday Administration. Total Kriselle Domination.

>>713751753
Wonder how closely her backstory will mirror Kris before they met the Dreemur family.

>>713751810
>no CHADly

Considering Noelle's fetish for evil things, what 40K army would she play?

>>713750682
It barely sounds like the freedom motif.

>>713751308
she goes over it in ch3/4, she moved around a lot as a kid and was seen as 'scary' even back then, anyone who she made friends with either didn't last long due to the moving or only did it as a joke
eventually she more or less gave up and fell back on the scary persona people projected on to her, but it's implied she only did it to prevent herself from getting hurt again
this is a dangerous time for her because she's only been friends with kris for 3 days, so in the event of kris' apparent betrayal susie is going to relive every other time she's been friends with someone, likely even worse than before due to how fast and hard the two of them have bonded

>>713750786
If you heckle Snowy in Undertale he can respond with (Insults towards humans) so there's precedent for racism

>>713751430
>well, Ralsus has always been an underdog, for some reason
Because the vast majority of shipping is based off of fetishes and self-inserting wish fulfillment, don’t let anyone try to tell you otherwise
Ralsei is too much of a fruity softboy for most people to self-insert as and he’s not a human so the HMOFA crowd doesn’t care about him

>>713751978
chaos because she's a shitter

>>713751978
I bet she would romance this fucker in roguetrader

>>713751978
Dark Eldar, duh.

>>713751434
Get ready for the Dog's laziness.

>>713750786
The second one is more fitting.

>>713751991
I mean, we all know we are getting Vs Sussie 2. It's pretty much inevitable, at this point.

>>713751978
Tyranid

>>713751978
Nids.

>>713750742
It pisses me off how much of a tease this part was.

>>713751978
Tyranids

>All the original undertale OST videos on youtube are being deleted
Kinda sad seeing all those excited fan comments from only a year after the game was released get wiped.

>>713752105
>Chaos
Which one? Night lords?

>>713752108
>>713752124
Dark Eldar makes a lot of sense, yeah.

>>713752183
She is a woman, so yes.

>>713751991
I want to imagine that the town that banned her from playing the public piano was an all-human town.

>>713751908
If only I had that Jiren Berdly pic on hand.

>>713752258
Why didn't Toby just the upload the OST himself from the start anyway? Is he stupid? All of that potential money, lost.

>>713751430
>I can verify as someone who defended Suselle on /v/ from particularly witless attacks
I swear to god, if you're that faggot who was going "but they're cute together, it's regular teen romance", I will mail an envelope full of AIDS-infested ticks to your house.

>>713752258
If you went back in time to tell people from 2016 about Deltarune, what would be the part they would find hardest to believe?

>>713746801
>seam pawsies
:3

>>713746965
>he talks just like sans
How

>>713752412
Gerson probably

>>713752412
The cute girls intended to be ship bait. All the gals sans Toriel in Undertale were gremlins. Alphys was a joke char.

>>713751101
The only issue I have with the theory is that Kris using the real knife in the dark world probably would physically hurt Susie. If you freeze Berdly and he gets sick in the real world then knocking someone out with a "real knife" should leave a bleeding wound at least

I've been huffing that good copium and have a new crackpot theory.

Kris Knight isn't off the table at all.
The Knight is a shadow. One cast by the light of the SOUL passing through something in Kris: Dess' SOUL.

In Undertale, Asriel gained power by taking in Chara's SOUL when they died.
Deltarune is the opposite. Dess died and Kris has taken in her SOUL. They are the Knight, together.
The Knight that we see is a shadow projection of Dess' SOUL in the Dark. This is why it's always with/watching Kris like when it stops them from going after Susie in Chapter 4's ending. This is also why it needed Kris to open the Fountain in Chapter 2's ending. And why Tenna says he had a deal with the Roaring Knight but then also says his deal was with Kris.

>>713747240
>RALSEI REPLACES THE HAT

>>713752093
>>713751847
I want to believe in this diagram I made, I want to believe in it so hard, but every new piece of Krusie art based on actual in-game scene just makes another dent in it.

>>713750770
anon noelle specifically states that kris without the soul is not acting normally and appears unwell

>>713744614
I thought it was because of how dolphins pop up out of the water, like pop up ads

>>713752401
probably wanted to go with a ZUN-style handling of the series where a lot of it is held up by dedicated fans, but fucked up by partnering with a shit publisher

>>713750770
>>713752650
Kris can live without SOVL, he did it for years, but he acts like a freaking zombie without it.

>>713750770
The nurse, Toriel and Noelle all remark that he looks sick

>>713748772
Every fucking time I give him a crystal it pisses me off, wondering whether I really want to be doing that.

>>713752405
I don't think I've ever said "but they're cute together" but I've talked about the idea that "Noelle only loves the front that Susie puts up" is a flawed reading when a lot of the Ferris wheel scene is Susie dropping that front and just talking things out with Noelle, and Noelle enjoying it regardless.
I think the ch4 dialogue pre-guitar is definitely more "troubled" than ch2 ever was, really just because Susie accidentally puts Noelle on the spot to come to terms with her feelings about Kris in the middle of a situation where she's trying to court Susie.

>>713751827
This just makes me wonder how Kris is going to react if we get our Vessel back. Is he gonna freak?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1llcuqo/why_dessknight_isnt_too_obvious_to_be_true/

I think I'm locked in on Dess being misdirection and Rudy actually being the Knight. The phone calls in Ch4 seem like clunky exposition but then it hit me that hospitals are notorious for having terrible cell reception so it's a giant hint alongside Asgore, Rudy's absolute best friend, also having a Black Shard in his possession.

>Get my vessel
>Absolutely mad dash to the school
>Enter castle town
>HUG that GOAT

>>713751978
sisters of battle

>>713752401
Official uploads of any OST/album (description says "Provided to Youtube by X") automatically disable comments.

>>713749024
Give the best defensive gear to Ralsei
Use your weakest healing items first
Prioritize going for Hypnosis. Even if you are not at ideal HP levels

>>713752852
Seems more like something Dess would do.

>>713752787
>Remember me Noelle? When I had you kill Berdly I talked JUST LIKE THIS!

>>713752726
>he did it for years
[citation needed]

I hope the ending for weird route is cool, and doesn't fuck with your save file.
Even that second part is negotiable.

>>713749561
Buff yourself

>>713752548
>I am a shadow, the true self

>>713752810
please don't post your own reddit posts here

>>713752885
dess is too punk rock to play an imperium army

>>713752771
>a lot of the Ferris wheel scene is Susie dropping that front and just talking things out with Noelle, and Noelle enjoying it regardless
Thing is, Noelle made two suicide threats during taht scene, and Susie only became comfortable once they got off the Ferris wheel.. I was actually saying that before the new chapters, and what do you think, Noelle accidentally confirmed this whole thing was completely forced. Hell, people were saying that Susie is falling in love with Noelle because she thought about her twice, and then chapter 3 revealed she doesn't even considers her her friend.

>>713751978

>>713752921
It should fuck with your save file, but only as a joke to point out how little it actually mattered in Undertale.

>>713752767
We gotta get a PureCrystal somehow.
Then, once we get the Twisted Sword, all will be as it should be. Probably. Hopefully.

>>713752813
>but then it hit me that hospitals are notorious for having terrible cell reception
This is such a stretch I don't even know what to say
What is more likely?
The voice being garbled because of storytelling reasons and making it harder to identify the caller?
The voice being garbeled because it's coming from the bunker, the place with CONFIRMED bad cell reception in-universe?
Or you anecdotal evidence that isn't at all true. Do you live in a third world country or something? And besides this isn't a hospital, this is a small emergency room

>>713752810
>linking to a reddit repost instead of the original tumblr post
what the fuck are you doing

>>713753024
>Emperor's Children didn't have a model range when Deltarune first came out.

>>713752993
True. Though I feel she wouldn't go the Ork route, unlike susie. Probably just be another Nid player.

>>713752921
I can't imagine how this could work in a satisfying way, but weird route makes me really root for Kris to overcome the player.
Weird route already has kinda bad pacing with how you gotta replay or skip chapter 1, skip through the first half of ch2, skip through all of ch3, and then need to pay attention in ch4 despite being all the same gameplay so that you don't miss dialogue changes here and there.
If on top of that the route boils down to ruining everyone's lives for the lulz like in UT it's gonna be really bad.

>>713752771
Yeah, I keep seeing some people say that "oh Noelle only likes Susie's scary side" but right from Ch. 1 she makes it obvious that she wants to see Susie's goodhearted side. It really does just feel like overwhelming cope about Suselle to the point of misreading or disregarding text.

>>713752921
weird-route is 100% going to be the inverse of the normal ending, ie you fight against noelle who is the angel in the normal route and in weird route you fight as angel noelle versus the gang

>>713753078
>linking either instead of archive/screencap

She could have helped Kris...

>>713752921
I have a painful suspicion that Toby is going to rugpull the weird root ending

There are people ITT that think the twistedsword gives trance-up instead of trance-down

FREAK

Personally I can’t wait until we get the New Game+ after Weird Route so I can freeze everyone in chapter 1

>>713753129
>If on top of that the route boils down to ruining everyone's lives for the lulz like in UT it's gonna be really bad.
I think it's mostly going to be very downplayed but bad. Like, yeah, you didn't blow up the world like in Undertale but your hopeless and aimless quest for freedom basically harmed a lot of people for not much of a reason.

>>713752810
Didn't read. "Dess is too obvious" is a retarded argument anyway because who the fuck cares, it's a smallest part of mystery anyway. No, the retards act like identifying the Knight was the main goal and we can now just pack things up and go home.

>>713753010
>Noelle made two sucide threats
She thinks she's in a dream, dude. You are not looking at the scene in good faith if you're saying that.

>>713745713
Kris sincerely just referring to noelle as "hole" and "tits" makes me laugh so hard, just not even conceiving of her as a person

>>713753169
>Not sending it by carrier pigeon
NGMI

>>713753213
Genuinely psychotic attention to detail.

>>713753146
Even beyond shippingshit you have to remember a lot of people here actively bumrush through the game and avoid interacting with anything that isn’t mandatory, this was a huge problem during the Undertale days too

>>713751708
suzilla is one of the cutest sprites in the entire game

>>713753242
>She thinks she's in a dream, dude
But Susie doesn't, that's the thing.

>>713743821
yes

>>713753213
KRISELLEBROS I'M FEELING CONFIDENT

>>713750601
I've thought about this before. We have been doing the secret bosses in the chapter order because of the episodic release. But i feel they aren't meant to be done in that order. For example, in a blind playthrough you are much more likely to get Spamton NEO before Jevil

>>713753146
But when we actually start reading into things, Susellefags immediately start to cry "You're reading too much into things, they just love each other, it's a normal teen romance!"

>>713751592
Take it easy Ray Lewis

we live inside a dream

>>713750682
>>713751682
This because women don't love men, but they still need to fuck them.
Women see pretty boys as women and there is a reason why most of women are bisexual but not men. They love yuri but they stiiiiill need someone with a cock

Love finds its way to the girl.

>>713753213
>It wasn't Dess that diddled him

>>713753591
ALL women are Lesbian.

Some of them just happen to be bisexual as well.

>>713753591
Women dont seem to love women either considering lesbians have the highest physical abuse rates of any pairing

>>713753213
GLORY TO THE HOLIDAY ADMINISTRATION

TOTAL KRISELLE VICTORY

>>713753237
But you haven't just got the answer of "who is the knight". You've also got the answer of "where is dess"? Which definitely IS a major mystery in the story. No of course it's not a " now just pack things up and go home" but it would suck if what is meant to be a massive reveal ends up being something we already figured out.

The most visceral/shocking part of the game so far to me was Rouxls initiating a throuple. That shit blew my mind for whatever reason that Toby was even interested in going there, or especially in making fun of it. And it was so fucking funny. I kinda think Rouxls stole Queen's crown.

>>713753213
If snowgrave doesn’t end with Kris and Noelle having a hot sweaty make out session after killing (You) I don’t want it

We will get everyone to LOVE us. Kris, Susie, Noelle, Ralsei, Berdly, Catti, Asgore, Rudy, Carol, the Knight, Gaster, everybody. Not a single human or monster will be spared of our LOVE. LOVE will find its way to all of them.

>>713742298
I actually had a newfound hatred for that crocodile bitch after I learned what she was doing. It's even worse that he's using one of his friends to do it.

Do you think Gaster actually wants to get out of the void or does he just enjoy his newfound bullshit scattered-through-time-and-space life of fucking with does

>>713753563
wtf why is Kris superimposed over the game screen

>>713753792
Gaster just wants to watch his granddaughter get laid.

>>713746801
I am so glad he actually looks cool and isn't some fat fetish character like how fans drew him back in the chapter 1 days

>>713753591
You just sound like a faggot

>>713751161
The biggest evidence is that all the people I know who are exclusively Suselle shippers are the ones who keep getting mad and defensive. All the Kris/shippers and poly shippers are happy and relaxed.

>>713753591
>Womens ee pretty boys as women
Lol. Find you a lesbian couple with Yaoi hands or boy smell or anything even remotely nice, what you have is the tomboy effect where the closeness of interests and coolness of relatively less shocking biology is inherently exotic and of interest, not that women are actually all lesbians.

Lesbians beat other lesbians like a motherfucker, and to the average woman having to eat out her boss to get ahead is the kind of shit they'd rather slice their wrists open for before even considering. Your world of yuri is more fake than the stock exchange.

>>713753758
He is also confirmed to have a flat ass

>>713753753
>You've also got the answer of "where is dess"?
And we also now got a bunch of new questions - "What the fuck is wrong with Dess", "What is Dess' endgame" "and "Who's actually in charge".

>>713750337
>people that buy into this theory are redditards
unsurprising

>>713753753
Not everything needs to be a swerve if you were paying attention to the story
People were calling Kris the knight for half a decade

>>713753343
that's basically everything in the game
it's insane how everything is the way it is for a reason

>>713753770
I don't know why the fan base loves this idea of the cast seeing the player as some kind of disgusting abomination or unsettling perverse presence even outside of weird route. I'm just a little guy! It's my freaking birthday! Cut me a break! If I don't keep controlling the soul then "the world falls into darkness"!!
Can I get one fucking interpretation as the soul being an earnest non-scary person who wants Susie and Ralsei to Noelle to get happy endings and isn't seen by the cast as some eldritch horror??

>>713753213
>Please don't

>>713751978
kroot are the closest thing to susie in 40k

>>713752258
Really? That sucks. I loved those videos.

>>713754098
Why is Kris such a fag

>>713744509
>Feminine boys are cute and sexy.
Ralsei’s entire character arc is learning to be less of a faggot

>>713752532
The girls are very hot in off-model fanart.

>>713752412
That a large portion of the fanbase hates Sans now

>>713753969
He’s got that Hank Hill ass

>>713754176
That's not true. His character arc is about being comfortable being a faggot with Lightners instead of telling them to confine themselves some Lightner faggot alternative.

>>713752548
Cool theory.

>>713752412

>>713753591
I think this is an autism thing where you are literally unable to comprehend the idea of someone liking things that you don't like, except it's taken to such a retarded extreme that you believe that all women are lesbians because you're a straight man and are attracted to women, therefore everyone else on the planet is also attracted to women.

>>713752412
virtually everything
they'd tell you to go back from whatever fanfic site you came from

You know when I first saw them in these threads I doubted the people who were saying shit like “New game plus will lead to the true ending”, “Snowgrave/Aborted route will be needed for the best ending”, and all the timeloop theories
But now that I think about it, isn’t it interesting that the fusion recipe for the Twisted Sword was shown to us as early as Chapter 2, and the fact that it is already a tangible item ingame (even if only through debugging) before it can actually show up in canon? Not even the Mantle got this treatment. It’s odd

>>713751005
Oceans of black cum

>>713754321
>ch5 ends with Ralsei growing a pair and snapping the Knight in half, accidentally killing them as a Lightner
would it be kino?

>>713754367
hot

>>713754024
>if you were paying attention to the story
People keep acting like Dess being the Knight was some Holmesian deduction. People just went "fuck the knight has antlers, it's got to be dess!".

so why does the titan's face look like a gaping dripping winking pussy

>>713752847
>Get the Gooner Vessel
>Fuck her.

>>713751005
Honestly that was my goat-to theory before I started throwing plushie idea around and someone pointed out 213 thing and Teddy Bear connection.

>>713753758
>>713753969
>>713754243
Why did Toby feel the need to reveal the fact that Rouxls Kaard FUCKS?

>>713754353
Especially since Deltarune is quite literally an AU.

>>713753740
Correction. They can only love the idea of another woman. There.

>>713751005
Something akin to this could actually work.
If Titans are pure fear, then what is thrill in fear? Noelle certainly knows a thing or two about that.

>>713753908
I was specifically referring to those who draw poly art

>>713754573
I kind of doubt he gets any, he just wants to be the right hand man enough to go through even this method

>>713754573
He's the butt of the joke so much and it's easy to forget that he's not exactly unattractive.

>>713754550
if we combine the two, titan ralsei could be the fear of abandonment.

>>713751005
Anyone thing we might get a return of Queen's Punch Out gameplay, but it's now fisticuffs with a titan?

>>713754736
And you're still full of shit even if you were honest in this instance Anonymous. Even in a poly relationship men are still men and women are still women and generally the only ones who try and evade this stratification and separation are those who are mentally ill with parental issues strong enough to make the death penalty look like mercy to them.

No. Even the artists drawing throuples don't consider women first as a relationship thing over men or live in a world of Yuri, that's your delusion speaking.

>>713754573
>>713754809
I dunno, he always had a certain amount of popularity with artists, specifically because of his looks.

>>713754502
it would unironically be kino

Thread over. Everyone go home.

>>713754921
God I hope so now

>>713754938
Idk what the fuck are you talking about

>>713754363
The biggest argument against Snowgrave being needed for the best ending is it having optional bossfight tier difficulty with snowgrave spamton. But the idea of an aborted route, which avoids it, could work.

noelle's a bitch yeah, kek what a bitch yeah

>>713754502
>Ralsei arc is learning to be more open with himself and not having to pretend to be happy 24/7
He’s absolutely going to lose his shit at some point

has anyone actually checked if the LoadedDisk stays in your inventory for ch 3-4?

>>713755276
Susie's showing him the way, he'll get there.

>>713754921
I assumed that would happen since chapter 2

>>713755065
damn, femkris gets to go home to THAT?

>>713755276
he already barely keeps it together in ch4, only managing to do so because of susie and maybe kris if you don't [glass him]

kris forced noelle's finger into her agonizingly tight vice grip theyfab pussy and clamped down so hard that noelle started bleeding. afraid so

>>713755434
>upcoming chapter has a enemy with a ACT called "GlassHim"
>it pours them a drink granting 100% mercy