Thread 714115440

This needs to fail for multiple reasons. Devs need to learn to fuck off with spending a lot of their budget using celebs, nobody fucking cares that you mocapped some retard from a formerly popular TV show or random whtite girls. Second, walking sims are lame. Third, Kojima isn't some auteur, he makes nonsensical garbage for pseuds and there is no place in gaming for a cheap David Lynch knockoff. Keighley is a fag and I'm sick and tired of him sucking Kojima's dick - hello? Metal Gear Solid (good game) for the ps1 was like 30 fucking years ago - kojima hasn't made a single good game since.

Now watch as DS2 wins GOTY undeservedly because of sunk cost fallacy, Geoff hyped this trash up for 2 years and he worships the shoes Kojima steps in.

>KOJIMA WON
KOJIMA WON
>KOJIMA WON
KOJIMA WON

>>714115440 (OP)
from what i can see so far, this dogshit made 1/100th of a splash compared to the first dogshit in the series

>>714115440 (OP)
Death Stranding 1 and 2 are incredibly easy to follow and acting like they are unintelligible and intentionally vague just makes you look retarded.

>>714115440 (OP)
You're seething so hard it's physically radiating through the screen. Kojima lives rent-free in your head because he dares to make games that don’t spoon-feed you like 90% of the AAA slop these days. You don’t like celeb mocap? Cool, go play Roblox. Meanwhile, Kojima is out here turning walking into a meditative, atmospheric experience instead of giving you another cookie-cutter shooter #58. DS1 wasn't for everyone, and it didn't need to be. DS2 doubling down makes perfect sense-it's his vision, not a shareholder-pleasing Ubisoft turd. And yeah, if it wins GOTY, cry harder, because at least it tried something weird and original for once.

>>714115440 (OP)
That's wrong. The last good game was mgs3, the mgs trilogy was his best work and nothing comes close. Mgs 4 and 5 are "fine" but have too many problems. 4 only has gameplay for 2 and a half acts, the rest is just the convoluted story meandering. 5 has an abysmal story and the good gameplay is not enough to save it

>>714115440 (OP)
Sometimes I feel like I don't belong on /v/ for not getting outraged over the smallest things.

>>714117014
>5 has an abysmal story and the good gameplay is not enough to save it
>the gameplay of a video game is not enough to save it

>>714117014
5 was better than 4 because 5 had actual gameplay and wasn't 90% cutscene faggotry
>>714116545
stopped reading after you said I was seething, looks like you went on a rant. Who's the seething one?

I just don’t understand how this game is getting perfect scores across the board. I can get that a game just isn’t for me, but to say this is a perfect title is INSANE.

It’s a walking sim with an open world so lifeless any other game would be panned for it.

Delivering packages… what a fucking joke. This entire object of the game seems like it should be a side job in an even bigger title. And when you do get to some action, it’s so janky and barebones, and this is coming from the guy behind the metal gear series. How the fuck did none of that gameplay transfer over?

Dialogue is nothing but 30 minute exposition dumps, monologues, or exposition dumps followed by monologues. I couldn’t tell you a single thing about any of the characters other than their stupid ass, on the nose names because they all act exactly alike.

This is what happens when you let an idea guy off the leash and do whatever he wants. Kojima comes up with some dope character designs and ideas, but he needs a filter. Death Stranding probably would have been ACTUALLY good if there was someone there to tell Kojima to chill the fuck out.

The only thing Death Stranding has going for it are the graphics and the cutscenes. Thats it. Just watch the cutscenes online. This game was practically MADE for that.

>>714117268
Name?
>>714117383
Kohima dick sucking, has been happening since mgs4

>>714117537
>Name?
that's a man. he has a weiner. caileyanne

>>714117667
And?

>>714115440 (OP)
Quite down e33shill, KojiKING is speaking. Sit down and listen

>>714117903
And nothing, girls with dicks are based. I just thought that fella should know he was attracted to a boy.

>>714118043
>e33shill
lol? you're already fighting invisible enemies. Says a lot that E33 comes to mind for you. I got bored of it and stopped playng almost a month ago, still a better and more liked game than Gone Home 2: Actor From the Walking Dead edition

lmao

>>714116545
calm down

I played Death Stranding 1 on my PS4, wasn't impressed, in fact I hated it, all my tryhard arthouse film friends thought it was genius. I also didn't care for MGS4 but MGSV was and is something very special that stands on its own apart from the rest of MGSverse, Kojima peaked at MGSV, getting fired form Konami broke him. Konami at least kept his self masturbatory stories somewhat in check, getting let go and starting his own studio made him triple down on stroking his own ego unchecked, with Death Stranding he's literally cooming all over his fans and demanding you gobble it up.

Go to sleep retard.

>>714115440 (OP)
Kojima is pretty much the only guy who scans famous actors en masse like this.
Also no other game plays like DS.
Also it's only nonsensical to you because you are retarded.
Also snoy will fund his next games no matter what. Eat shit faggot.

>>714115440 (OP)
>Devs need to learn to fuck off with spending a lot of their budget using celebs
I do agree with this. This is precisely what contributed to the destruction of Hollywood and should serve as a massive warning to the video game industry.

>>714115878
they ARE easy to follow if you have all the info on hand in some wiki or video summary instead of digging through boring in-game emails. The story just happens to be boring mid fantasy dogshit.

>>714116545
nigga, if I wanted a meditative atmospheric experience from walking, I would get up off my ass and go outside. In a stinking city? Take the train or bus or drive to a park or forest. People who unironically believe this shit about walking being great are lazy fatasses who never bothered going outside. They probably think Iceland only exists in DS1.

>>714125674
>dude why play sports games just go out there and play sports

Kojima won

You can really tell who is low income in these threads

it's not that bad op

>>714127305
>"guhuhuh I'm better because I can spend $600 on a plastic box to play KINO KINO KEENO!"

>>714128749
This but unironically

>>714115440 (OP)
cope chinky

>>714128807
Don't reply to poor people

>>714115706
Sure, keep on telling yourself that, faggot.

>>714115440 (OP)
KOJIMA WON

YOU LOST

>>714129006
>these numbers
LMAOOOO

>>714129086
Imagine wearing those clothes at 61 years old. Holy cringe

>>714117240
otherwise anon would have to admit that MSGV was fun and dare I say good

Cope and seethe tranny
I'll take a billion actual celebrities over faggot voice actors and E-Celebs appearing in games

>>714115440 (OP)
>This needs to fail for multiple reasons.
Nothing is going to change the fact that you're unsuccessful, not rich, probably short, and definitely out of shape. Why do you insist on acting like you're part of some real movement?

>>714115440 (OP)
These games further push vidya toward being aggressively cinematic, on the nose and dull in their presentation of stories with no attempt to really use the mediums strengths through the marriage of agency and narrative, just beat you over the head with narrative in a tell-don't-show way and waste the player's time
They are quintessential plebeian games packaged as art with wacky visuals and marketing
There's more genuine artistry in Stellar Blade's soundtrack than there is in the entirety of Kojima's catalog because he's a boring hack

>>714115440 (OP)
It's Kojima's game. It already succeeded, but even if it failed it'd still be his game.

>>714116545
Kojima does spoon feed and abstractions/surrealism are not "weird and original" in the least.

>>714128248
Is this webm supposed to be something really impressive what am I supposed to be seeing

>>714128939
>>714128807
typical of rich people to spend all day on their ass.

>>714130083
>i'll take high-ranking pedophiles over low-ranking pedophiles
interesting

>>714130443
>implying you wouldn't

>>714130181
trvke

>>714130557
I'd still be too proud to feed Sony's pockets.

>>714130557
>>714130692
>>714130443
>>714128939
the fuck are you on about? only poors buy consoles. Same reason they buy apple products despite their low quality. You know how many poor niggers I know that wear Jordans and Rick Owens and own PS5s? All the people with money I know own PCs and wear fucking kmart brand plain tee shirts.

>>714116545
Wow that's great can his vision be good for once

>>714115440 (OP)
>Now watch as DS2 wins GOTY undeservedly
anon E33 will win regardless of how good the other nominees are. if it doesn't you'll have every troglodyte alive saying the show was rigged and biased (no exaggeration, it could genuinely cause enough buzz to ruin TGA's reputation permanently because of how high profile it is)
If anything's dick is being slurped it's E33, whether that's deserved or not is up to you.

>>714132818
but death stranding 2 is the better game

Do you understand how brutal it was for me when i started DS2 if i tell you i just came back from finishing yoshi's island lol
Pure gameplay vs a literal movie

>>714115440 (OP)
the real reason it needs to fail is getting a PC port quicker, ive just realised we are getting it in february, the game awards will be the perfect place to advertise the PC port

fuck man i wanted it for december on PC

Hi, /v/!

>>714130181
The signs are there

I'm starting to like it. Firdt 6 hours felt like a shameless retread but after that it's been a shameless retread that's kinda fun.

>>714130442
Kojima invented jumping. Don't you see? This changes everything.

>>714134290
Oh hai raini

I keep hearing how good this game is yet i never see gameplay clips being posted.

>>714130864
Playstation owners have the highest income on average across all gaming platforms, with Nintendo being second. Don't know why PC enthusiasts continue to find new ways to cope and seethe.
Source: https://gamerant.com/study-playstation-gamers-earn-more-money-pc-xbox/

>>714130864
must be posers around.

I don't bother eurotruck fags because they don't worship their game as "ludo" nor do they even get considered as a GOTY contender. I personally like FPV drone simulators which is a largely movement based simulator. Again, I don't treat it as some deep avant-garde bullshit.

Kojima dick suckers do need to fail so they stop polluting the videogame industry. Make movies Kojima-san.

I am the only one who dont see any discussion about this game anywere but here?

>>714133242
No it isn't. I'm enjoying it a lot, but E33 was lightning in a bottle that struck out of nowhere. This is good but not great. E33 is still the obvious front-runner. Only game that remains to possibly challenge it is Ghost of Yotei or a Silksong shadow drop.

>>714134778
I see a lot of clips on tiktok
>photoshoots
>quizzes
>dollman dance
>Reedus onsen

>>714134778
I see it literally everywhere on Twitter and Youtube without even looking for any of it.

>>714134545
This is actual "gameplay" btw

Gameplay

>>714134858
Its like with doctor who. Thats neat but is anyone watching/buying? The uk sales charts tend to be in playstation's favor and it sunk there. All we're missing are the famitsu sales

Hate walking and driving? Build a zipline. But first you need to collect the material. How? By first walking and driving. Alot. This is a chore by definition.
DS gets called a walking simulator for a reason. In other games, walking, or travelling with whatever means, is a means to an end, to get to the next activity. In DS, walking IS the activity. Kojima drones get huge dopamine hits from using shit like roads and ziplines because it indicates progression.
>I once struggled here, but now I can breeze through it
They fail to realise they bought a game with a boring activity, then engaged in said activity in order to get tools to skip it.

>>714134804
Goy? As game of the year?

Also unironic actual gameplay

>>714135485
Kek i can already feel that this image is here to stay and will be posted regularly

you are getting filtered.
it's a lot more than just walking.
DS2 actually feels a lot like metal gear

watch this video:
https://youtu.be/5jpUYtiN-WU

>>714129802
It’s pretty cringe, but at the same time it’s hard to hate on a guy that’s doing what he loves with no regard for whether or not people think he’s lame.

>>714135382
What if I like walking?
Specifically gamified walking like in DS?

>>714130147
This is oddly specific, anon.

>>714115503
won what Yong yea gets 1/10 of the views he use to get when Kojima wasn't considered a hack

>>714135951
Remember when Kojima pretended that MGSV sucked because of Konami
why did he make two games that are just downgraded versions of mgs5?

>>714129802
What are you gonna be wearing at 61, retard? A pair of overalls of a flat cap? Maybe you’re one of those people who think they’ll be rocking a suit and tie every single day.

Nah. You’ll be wearing a graphic T-shirt referencing your favorite video game as a youngster along with some fitted jeans and some nice shoes if you can afford them.

>>714134349
It's very blatantly just DS1 again but refined mechanically. I can't see how anyone watching the cutscene of Sam putting on an empty BB pod, dying his hair back to how it looked in DS1, and charlie pointedly saying he can't use any voice except Die Hardman wasn't a lampshade on that. Fragile and Dollman explicitly say doing what he's already done will help him grieve. Kojima actually made a sequel for players who liked the first game rather than for line go up investors and everyone is upset the game isn't a different game.

>>714136164
Then go outside to walk.

>>714136603
Oh you like shooter games? Just join the army, it's the same thing!

>>714135951
This isn't new to me. If you claim it is similar to metal gear, I will very cautiously buy it on a >50% discount years from now. Trust is lost by the bucket and earned by drops.

>>714136708
Retard. I would play airsoft. I am not dying for Israel.

doood build bridges not walls!

>>714134580
>Playing FIFA, M-rated games like Doom, and other games could lead to higher earnings.
amazing ''study'', retard-kun.

>>714136603
No.

>>714136797
Ok, then stop playing vidya and go play airsoft. Stop playing racing games and go drive. Stop playing RPGs and join a reenactment group.

>>714115440 (OP)
>fuck off with spending a lot of their budget using celebs
this, even though the main guy looks kino

>>714122789
Kojima is not the only "sonyssesur" making shit games btw.

>>714115440 (OP)
One of the core gimmicks of Death Stranding is that moving around the environment is the game because of the insanely realistic and complex movement mechanics. It puts real human limitations on the player that other games do not. Traversing the world is a puzzle to be solved with strategy and practice. Defeating or avoiding threats is part of the puzzle but not the game. "Walking sim" is not an appropriate label" because walking is not the only challenge. The environment itself is the challenge. A walking overland driving survival horror puzzle solving and melee and firearms combat while defending vital mission resources game starts to cover it.

>>714137249
Facts are facts, PC poor. People who game on Playstation have higher incomes on average than their PC counterparts. I don't care about console warring, your gay post about it just needed a good slap. Now get on your knees and suck it, PC peasant.

Just finished a few hours ago
First game was much better. DS2 had no sense of wonder and discovery, you could see all the twists from a mile away and lots of filler cutscenes or repeating the same thing for the 9999th time (that last issue is just classic kojima exposition though)

>>714137378
>Ok, then stop playing vidya and go play airsoft. Stop playing racing games and go drive. Stop playing RPGs and join a reenactment group.
Okay since you're an actual retard, I will explain it to you.
>shooting games
Getting shot hurts and could lead to death. Shooting games provide a reactiom/coordination/positioning challenge without those downsides.
>Racing games
I'm not risking a ticket, or crashing my car. Games let me do this without downsides.
>RPG
Okay you are an actual retard. Where are the real life dragons? Elves? Dwarfs? Magic?

And finally:
>Walking
I don't live near niggers so I can take a walk whenever I want.

>>714137674
>PC peasant
What causes this mentality? PC is objectively better in every single way, the only reason I assume it is fox and the grapes. A good PC gatekeeps you pathetic consolecucks because it's too expensive.

Dw buddy, you know you can buy an RX6750XT for like $300 right? It's more powerful than a PS5 pro. Ask your mother, she might get you one for christmas if you be good.

>>714137960
>Press start to play
vs
>Press start to play with the settings for the next ten hours and by then you'll be unintersted by the game

God I hope it loses GOTY. Imagine the "pretend you won (GOTY)" memes.

>>714115440 (OP)
DS2 didn't even cost a fraction of the amount it took to make Cyberpunk 2077.

>>714137960
>W-what causes this mentality?
Christ you're dumb. I responded to this post>>714130864
Specifically "only poors buy consoles." And yet studies show that console owners make more money on average than PC users. The rest of your whinging is irrelevant. I was just shutting you/other anon up. And yet you're still going, saying stupid shit in a thread about a game only on console.

>>714115440 (OP)
I would argue that western studios should fail first. Kojimas team has pumped out many hours of cutscenes and gameplay with 200 people. Kojima himself says he maintains a fast decision requirement i.e. anything that needs to be decided will be decided immediately never postponed. He finishes games. They're not the problem he just has bad taste in vidya.

>>714137949
>>shooting games
Getting shot hurts and could lead to death. Shooting games provide a reactiom/coordination/positioning challenge without those downsides.

Death Stranding is this but with the realistic downsides intact so you have to play like it was you in real life attempting to move three tons of fragile cargo through an open desert full of armed militias dead set on robbing you of it while invisible ghosts try to eat you. That's the game.

>>714138176
There is no way it beats E33. E33 generated hype, fan art, and buzz across all of social media. It was a genuine hit. DS2 is barely registering. I say that as someone who likes it so far. But it is nowhere near E33. Honestly, unless something unexpected drops this year, there is no competition.

>>714115440 (OP)
i would say you need to fail for multiple reasons but you already do

>>714138105
>Press start to play with the settings for the next ten hours and by then you'll be unintersted by the game
Are you a retard?

>launch game
>open settings
>set everything to ultra
>start playing after like 10 seconds MAX of tinkering
My favourite is this
>currently playing Rise of the Ronin on ultra settings, looks and runs better than the PS5 version
>alt tab to argue with a fag on /v/
>all within a microsecond because I have 64gb of ram and an SSD, making my PC completely capable of having multiple things running at a time with zero delay
>go back to my game
Back in 10 minutes, fag.

>>714138356
>Death Stranding is this but with the realistic downsides intact so you have to play like it was you in real life attempting to move three tons of fragile cargo through an open desert full of armed militias dead set on robbing you of it while invisible ghosts try to eat you
Eh. You're overselling it. The game is pressing scanner and then walking on the blue and yellow terrain followed by occasionally putting a rope or ladder down. The game isn't some intense survivalist journey.

>>714138356
>realistic walking is fun

Why does Death keep getting stranded?

>>714138312
>Kojima
>finishing games
yeah, pick one, tourist.

>>714138584
It actually is when the environment is difficult to traverse and requires strategic planning to overcome because of environmental threats AND enemy encounters. Most games center around defeating all the enemies. This game is like a chase where the you fight them off of you while prioritizing an objective beyond the combat.

>>714130181
>no attempt to really use the mediums strengths through the marriage of agency and narrative

this x1000
if the only way you know how to tell stories is to put hours upon hours of cutscenes and exposition dumps into your game you should have not made a game, you should stop wasting our time and just make a movie/show because you clearly have no interest in utilizing the medium
Kojima is probably the worst offender but it's exactly the same problem in the nu GoW games which are extremely similar in their shittiness to ds

>>714134545
here you go

>>714138584
Any gameplay footage of this game reminds me of my real body and real life ticking away, and how I can spend time used for playing this to do better things, reading, working out, drawing, studying a new language, watching some good old movies/shows, even playing better games.

>>714138884
nice slo mo of him completely missing him with the kick but hitting anyway lol

>>714138540
Cool story bro
meanwhile
>Launch game
>Press start to play
I already finished half the game and spamming spoilers to ruin your experiemce by the time that you're ready
Captcha it just Warxs

>>714115440 (OP)
Why do modern media try so hard to make me want to have a family?

>>714139195
Tlthe fact that you can drop kick is nuts itself imo

>>714139195
Most games have occasional targeting or hit box errors like this. Dark Souls is infamous for this and everyone loves that. It rarely happens, but I'll admit its actually slightly more frequent than the first game. It will probably get patched out.

>>714117383
Child, game reviews are paid, they are meaningless.
Maybe you grow up one day and become a thinking adult.

>>714130442
Don't you see. You have to remove your backpack to cross the river! Isn't that amazing? It's just like in real life!

>>714139629
it's that and more

>>714139762
>"Is that and more"
>Proceeds to show nothing else

>>714115503
FPBP.

iOPpler BTFO.

>>714139762
This is going into my Kojima folder. I love when Kojimadrones post something "deep and meaningful" and then it's the most boring 2deep4u nothingslop.

>>714139295
...So just like Steam? retard.

>>714139629
More accurately, removing the backpack affects your mobility by allowing you jump further. Realistic weight management mechanics is part of the gimmick. There are other solutions provided. You could place a ladder across the river. You could equip a mobility skeleton that allows you to jump further while carrying more weight. You could use a grappling gun to retrieve the cargo. You could use a vehicle to jump the ravine. Its your problem to solve but the conditions are all realistic in nature and not automated and effortless like most games.

>>714139857
it's atmosphere. It's feeling. There's passion here. You just know. If you don't the you don't. Sorry to say.

Bros why is there combat and boss fights in my walking sim

Make Lou Sam’s biological daughter is a top tier hack move bravo Kojimbo

>>714140009
Please post the rest of your DS2_*.webm collection

>>714140009
Ah yes, such atmosphere and passions at trying to replicate reality.

>>714115440 (OP)
I give Kojima a pass cause this is what he does.

>>714140079
Brutal difficulty makes them extra spongy unfortunately but the blood mist grenade plus lmg combo def helps

>>714140150
This is exactly why he needs to fail

>>714140136
gotchu

>>714139981
Nigga you probably never crossed a river irl and are in awe for a dev bloating the game with systems for simple tasks.

>>714116545
>SHIT FART PHSHPSHPSHPS DEVS NEED TO NOT PFSFSHSHSH KOJIMAI HACK PFSHSHSBHSBHSHB PSEUDS NONSENSE PFPFSH POO POO
>YOURE SEETHING FART SHIT PFSPFSHFSHSHB A HHHH RENT FREE RENT FREE PEE PEE PFFPSFPSFJSFHSH CRY HARDER GO PLAY SBRSHSHSHSFSF

>>714140415
Can you post 1 and 4?
Also, do you only have 9 total?

>>714129974
mgs one of there main pillar on story and v is shit yeah it plays smooth but the gameplay is shit from the ai to the same shit layout of every copy pasted base

Just beat it, great game

>>714140496
"Bloat" is fun for people with a taste for complexity. I never got into playing Warhammer 40k because I never had the patience to build and paint an army. It doesn't mean there isn't an appeal for people who are really good at those things and really enjoy them. Most people don't have to overland a truck through a ravine in real life but the challenge is often appealing to some people.

>>714137960
steam users are weaker then a ps4 lol

>>714140496
it's not just a task, it's every delivery and every obstacle

>>714138884
>>714139401
Why does this look like MGS4?

>>714140621
>>714140973

"1" was already posted by someone other than me
>>714138584

>>714140009
> atmosphere
> passion
> feeling
Not included: Gameplay, enjoyment, fun
A game you can play for free on youtube isn't a game. This really is the peak of playstation gaming, it's literally NOTHING but cutscenes and slowly walking forward while expository voiceovers set up the next cutscene! At least Ragnarok had actual gameplay occasionally.

>>714142873
>stick faggot
>gets filtered by rope
Everytime

>>714140009
That pretentious shit you just said proved better than anyone ever could that Death Stranding is the video game equivalent to nailing a banana to the wall and calling it modern art.

>>714144675
good it makes normies like you rage just like the banana. Those who enjoy it, can appreciate it. Those who can't will continue to question or disagree until they see.

He should just make movies.

>>714145214
Normie? Chat, is it normie behavior to call a pretentious walking sim a pretentious walking sim?

You’re allowed to like what you like. You objectively have awful taste, but no one is here to take that right from you. However, if you’re in the camp that implies this indie film festival bullshit deserves anything higher than a 7/10, let alone game of the year, then you’re crazier than Kojima was when he decided he was going to make a death stranding sequel instead of a fucking horror game like he should have. Samefag btw. In case it wasn’t obvious.

>>714115440 (OP)
Kojima mocapped a shit ton of people, mostly western actors and he ended up making anime. I thoguht he wanted to be Spielberg, not Anno

>>714115440 (OP)
>Devs need to learn to fuck off with spending a lot of their budget using celebs
you are a retard who does not understand budgeting departments. it isn't "the dev is a retard for allocating this money to get big name actors in", it is "the publisher has a certain budget allowed specifically for the voice cast and allowed a big name actor because a big name actor is a draw to the game and will likely increase sales. if the big name actor was not there, the publish would never have released those funds."

>>714115440 (OP)
I have 50 hours in this game and im really bored of building roads

>>714137615
>Traversing the world is a puzzle to be solved with strategy and practice
Not in 2. The world is all flat and you get vehicles from the beginning so you just drive everywhere. Traversal has little bearing on the gameplay

>>714115440 (OP)
>Devs need to learn to fuck off with spending a lot of their budget using celebs
Regular devs? Sure. But Kojima is a whole other category. No use trying to copy him, that's what others should learn and just fuck off with mocap shit.

>walking sims are lame
Walking and navigation in DS1 is more intricate than the whole of any random AAA slop released within the past 10 years. If you have a problem with it now following most of the modern conventions and just being serious soldier guy doing shooty shooty then just fuck off.

>Third, Kojima isn't some auteur, he makes nonsensical garbage for pseuds
If you have IQ low enough to see his works as artsy shit for le intellectuals then its your problem. His works are pure kitsch made of cliches and visual spectacle that just tries to have some sincere message in-between the absurd and comedy. It's just dumb fun and even Kojima himself doesn't deny that.

>kojima hasn't made a single good game since.
Even MGS5 was a good game despite its many flaws. You need to be either a brainlet or a child to deny the fact there isn't a single "bad" game Kojima has ever produced. And he's not even acting like a highbrow asshole like Cuckmann or any of the other notable people in the industry.

>>714146760
I'm in episode 9 and I've given up completely on side content a few episodes in. You can just drive a trike everywhere. Absolutely pointless game.

>>714115440 (OP)
And yet, it's still the best game of 2025 despite how disappointing it is. Videogames are just terrible in general

>>714145942
>objectively
as if you have some sort of basis to stand on. This 'indie' film is more of a game than anything that's being put out right now. The only thing that could probably come close will be GTA6

>>714115440 (OP)
dangerously based

>>714116545
Holy fucking based. Midwits eternally BTFO.
I’m tired of these retards constantly seething all the time just because other people enjoy games they don’t. Fucking hell, what a bunch of close-minded fucking retards anti-Kojima niggers are.

>>714125502
Anon, on the surface, it’s about reconnecting America. Don’t hurt your little brain thinking too hard now

>>714117268
>posts unprompted wall of seethe praying for Kojima’s downfall
>”lol not seething btw :))))))”
you retards have zero fucking self awareness. no wonder you got filtered. you’re a fucking drone

>>714117383
Have you considered that maybe the game just isn’t for you? Not everything in the world is fine tuned to your tastes. You don’t need to go on a seething rant while reddit spacing

>>714144724
This image perfectly captures how fucking fragile and deranged Kojima haters are. What kind of obsessed faggot even made this image? Kojima made a game for people that aren’t you, you’re unironically not the audience, get the fuck over it, you sensitive bitch.

>>714115440 (OP)
>Second, walking sims are lame.

Honestly, i've been restoring the roads and using a that big truck for most of my journey. It's even equipped with a big canon and something that auto picks up packages on the ground. I ain't walking this shit.

>>714147762
Now do this for every "woke" game that gets shat on here.

>>714115503
Your false god is crumbling, yong yea
You love to see it

>>714140009
>If you don't the you don't.
Spend more time in school and you'll not only learn valuable language skills, your taste will evolve beyond that of an imbecile.

>>714147762
I'm not the one who cries over a funny meme like a sensitive bitch, lmao

>>714115440 (OP)
Kojima drones are the nig***s of vidya.

all things considered I would put death stranding as a net good. the fact that it's pursuing some kind of novel gameplay outside of kill x enemies is good for the industry. it could lead to devs taking that mentality and applying it to a structure more applicable for consistent meaningful gameplay than long delivery routes. just more combat, more combat, more combat even if it's in 'good' games is just not interesting to me anymore.

You're all just pretending you played this as a joke, right?

>>714115440 (OP)
Kojima is a genius who has never made a bad game (ACID was fine, shut the fuck up). I say this without irony. I will buy any game Kojima puts out. Yes he's retarded on social media but his games are fantastic. My only criticism about DS is that ghosts scare me and I have to be drunk to get through forced BT segments. The game would be way better if you only ever had to face MULEs and BT bosses (the BTs that are monstrous are fine, it's twitchy looking humans that unnerve me). I can understand being indifferent to Kojima's games, but I can't understand outright hating them. MGS2 is one of the best games ever made.

>>714115440 (OP)
>This needs to fail for multiple reasons.
I'm buying it to piss you off, OP. Also OP is a faggot.

>>714147275
Brother, Quantic Dream games have more compelling gameplay than death stranding.

You can’t look me in the eyes and tell me that walking through a featureless environment and dropping off packages to listen to holograms spout dialogue seemingly DESIGNED to be be skipped until you get to the next 30 minute cutscene full of tell don’t show dialogue makes for a game of the year contender.

You say not many games come close to the game play of Death Stranding? I need you to do 2 things.

1. Let me have some of what you’re smoking.

2. Walk into any game store or pull up your steam library. Close your eyes tight. Spin around a few times and point at a random game. What game did you land on? Guess what…it has better gameplay than fucking death stranding.

>>714148603
>ghosts scare me and I have to be drunk to get through forced BT segments

bro why the fuck would you post shit like this thinking it's going to help your case. you sound like some mentally ill teenager who has never read a decent book in his life or watched a decent film in your life.

>>714148736
The gadgets are neat however

>>714148770
Because I love myself and feel no shame about any aspect of myself.

>>714148770
What does reading a book have to do with being scared of ghosts

>>714147487
Someone mindlessly glazing a game where all you do is walk featureless landscapes with your only reward being a 30 minute cutscene having the nerve to call someone else a drone is actually the biggest lack of self awareness I’ll bare witness to for the rest of the year.

Go make yourself useful and donate some of your resources to help me build a full bridge over a 2 foot river in Mexico, faggot.

>>714148894
>featureless landscapes
why do you think you get to lie?

>>714148858
I’m happy for you, but retards like you end up getting put into positions of power, and then the next thing you know we end up with faggots who are afraid of the sight of guns working on making guns for halo titles.

Does it have more cutscenes than the first one? I hated how there was barely any story other than at the beginning and the end.

>>714115440 (OP)
Played the beginning last night. Kino is back on the menu bois

>>714134778
I've seen very little hype, little discussion and little excitement around this game. Many streamers did their one day sponsored stream and never went back to it. It's all felt really kind of muted.

Did anyone else remember how the filtering process of Death Stranding 1 went? In this thread alone we have midwits, poorfags and people who clearly just hate Hideo Kojima as a individual and haven't played the game. I predict that when Death Stranding 2 releases on PC suddenly everyone is going to like it.

>>714130391
Gives us examples of these in games

>>714148953
Where’s the lie? I’m playing the game RIGHT NOW. The game looks like a tech demo designed to show off how realistic the environments look.

There’s NO random encounters.

You’ll probably see 2 or 3 instances of wildlife MAX at any given time.

You’d be forgiven for assuming all the “cities” are copy and paste across the map.

The only “features” are the player built shit and those don’t even count because they’re nothing burgers. “Oooooh, a random grey and blue bridge against the vast landscape of brown, tan, grey, and very occasionally green.”

Fantastic.

>>714115440 (OP)
nah its good

>vtumor
Trash.

I don't understand why everyone in game loves sam, he's a grumpy fucker or autistic as fuck.

This is one of the most unimpressive games I've ever played in my life and everyone who says they like this is in a cult.

>>714115878
You are right but people think it's dense because of a trillion acronyms obfuscation easy to understand info and how people over explain everything at every opportunity making things seem difficult to understand.

>>714149223
You’re gonna need to get a new crystal ball, wizard, because your prediction is as retarded as your assessment of the situation.

People almost universally liked the metal gear series, and the glazing that came from PT was such that it redefined horror from the moment it released.

No one hates Kojima as a person. At least not as many people are you’re trying to say. No, people were waiting at the edge of their seats to see what he’d do next, and instead of a stealth action spiritual successor to Metal Gear, instead of a horror masterpiece we were waiting for, he makes a fucking post apocalyptic amazon delivery man simulator….TWICE. That’s why everyone is like fuck Kojima right now. She should have gotten the same reality check Inafune got.

>>714115440 (OP)
>This needs to fail for multiple reasons.
If you have to push this every hour, it means you are desperate. Death Stranding is a good game and DS2 is even better.

>>714149309
You are not playing the game.
>Where’s the lie?
Just about every one of your posts itt.

>>714149491
you didnt get it

>>714149556
> he makes a fucking post apocalyptic amazon delivery man simulator….TWICE

>>714149751
Hey, as long as you can enjoy your minimal effort slop, that’s all that matters.


As long as you’re aware that “slop” is indeed what it is.

>>714149036
But if I'm retarded yet in power, what does that mean for you if I'm in a position of relative dominance? What's the next step down from a retard?

The Bonehunters is my favourite book if you want to enjoy hating my taste further, and my favourite movie is Back to the Future 2.

>>714149885
nah

>>714148894
Bridges in this game are so fucking pointless you can literally just drive across every river in the game and battery is never a concern

>>714149125
There's usually a cutscene after every couple main missions

>>714115440 (OP)
>there is no place in gaming for a cheap David Lynch knockoff.
Every fucking gaming company right now has this problem, what the fuck are you talking about!

>>714149309
>There’s NO random encounters.
This bothers me. The fact that you know you'll never encounter enemies unless you choose to go into one of their camps was one of my problems with the first game and it the same in the sequel

I just finished the game, I get why the chinks are pissing their pants over this because it's going to end up snatching a bunch of shit from their french porn simulator at the end of the year
There's never going to be another game like this one in our lifetimes I think

>>714149309
>You’d be forgiven for assuming all the “cities” are copy and paste across the map.
There are no towns or cities in the game, just drop off points that have fake city looking backgrounds

>>714150292
BT encounters and ghost mech ambushes on roads aren't fixed encounters tho

>>714150292
This too, but I was thinking more along the lines of how GTA does it. Maybe you meet some random weirdos on the road or have to help someone out who is stuck in the middle of a getting attacked by BTs.

Just fun, interesting characters you can find out and about. DS has none of that. It’s just you, the EMPTY open world, some BTs here and there, some bandits, and your next cutscene.

>>714149309
featureless used in tandem with landscape implies flat grass land with no obstructing or variation in terrain. a lie.

>>714149885
Slop lost all meaning. It means "thing I don't like". I suggest you find another buzzword.

>>714150675
Nothing. You said nothing.

Why do people who argue in favor of death stranding always do that?

>>714151540
Slop is the most fitting title to describe it. Slop. Like the gunk you see them scoop into the plate in prisons in TV and movies.

Mass produced, easy to churn out, little to no value.

Slop. Goyslop even.

I’m not going to find a new word to describe things I don’t like because it’s a word YOU don’t like. I suggest you find a higher caliber of game to go up to bat for.

Of course I’m going to punctuate all that by calling you a faggot. As is customary for these encounters.

>>714151736
But enough about Expedition 33

>>714151736
>ITS SLOP THEREFORE ITS BAD THEREFORE YOU SHOULD STOP DEFENDING IT

>>714115440 (OP)
>>714151229
Death stranding 2 is so shlt it's peak kojima lazyness everything is exactly the same as DS1 and you add fights from mgs 4 and mgs 1 and some of mgs2, Kojima is senile this game is ass through and through.

It's retarted, Kojima is a hack, he thinks he knows Egyptian mythology and mix and match every pieces of previous games and shit and fart all over them by creating the most CRINGE and HORRIBLE narration and the most forgettable character ever.

It's worse then modern art throwing shit at michelangelo sculptures.

>>714151830
No, E33 has some effort put behind it. If E33 loses game of the year to DS2, I might be a little bit perturbed.

>>714151857
This but unironically, bitch.

>>714152098
uh oh melty

>>714152057
With some luck you might even hang yourself

>>714152701
I’ll use the rope they give you in the game. God knows there’s no moment in the bland ass gameplay where I needed it.

>>714151554
>how could you possibly enjoy a game about 'featureless' landscapes, it's nonsensical!
>ignoring the entire point being majestic perilous terrain

>>714152826
No, I got the point. I understood what the story wanted me to understood about the world. It’s still shit.


Characters go on and on about plotting my course and making sure I’m prepared for the journey. What is there in the journey that I need to be prepared for that’s more dangerous than a steep cliff or two?

BTs are a joke.
Mules are a joke.
Rivers are barely an inconvenience.
Gate Quakes are hardly noticed.

And whatever challenges those do pose are blown out the nano second you unlock a vehicle. So what game is there? Genuinely asking, because your game is YouTube cutscene search fodder, and you cannot deny that fact.

>>714153105
dont lie asshole. that's my message.

>>714153192
I didn’t lie. There’s nothing, fuckface. Featureless environment no matter how many mental gymnastics you do to warp how it’s defined. The only lie you’re telling is to yourself to justify your purchase.

Why you all spend so much of your time on hating games for not being things they weren’t trying to be, for not being tailored to your individual liking. All you need to say is that “it’s not for me.”
This isn’t a case of Cyberpunk for example where a false promise was made and a mess was delivered, this game is exactly what it tried to be.
My backlog is so huge I could never finish it, even if I retired today, so how the fuck does anyone have time to play games they didn’t even want to like, and then bitch about how they don’t like it.
Hitman is really good, for example. It’s something a lot of death stranding haters would enjoy.

>>714115503
fpbp
shitposters can't even find a genuine flaw anymore

>>714116545
based as fuck
low IQ pajeetniggers eternally buttblasted.

>>714117014
>MGS3tourists think it is the best one
LMAOOOOOOO
V shits all over it

Where do you guys get your chiral in mass quantities? I figure the mines are the best ways to get other stuff but it seems like farming BTs isn't as viable as the first game.

>>714115440 (OP)
Death Stranding has great visuals, designs, atmosphere and mechanics. But it just cant quite achieve being a great game because the core gameplay loop truly just isnt very fun

>>714150518
It would be nice if literally any of the characters existed outside of cutscenes and holograms

>>714153956
I don't know I play like a 3rd worlder and leech off other people's creations

>>714154062
same for real life too

>>714138575
And you’re being reductionist. There are easy missions where you deliver light cargo, but there are also moments that match anon’s description. What you’re describing is what people do when they force themselves to beat a game they never liked in the first place, they rush through it and skip most of the mechanics which makes the whole experience more tedious.
It’s the same dishonest take as saying being stylish in DMC is pointless because you can just spam stinger. You either like the core idea of a game and try to have fun or you hate play a game like a retard because it bores you

>>714115440 (OP)
I tried to give the first game a second chance but it was boring me to tears and I dropped it after around 10 hours. Biggest issue was the BT encounters, they just completely fuck the flow of the game every time you encounter them.
>freeze the game to have the little light do its animation, taking control away from the player to hide a loading screen or whatever, feels like shit
>boss fights aren't fun in the slightest, just climb on rock and spam grenades, not even difficult because the game starts spawning more grenades for you if you run out, doubt having a gun would make it anymore engaging
>BT locations are set locations instead of something more interesting like dynamic encounters, so there's areas of the map that are "replay game, remember THAT level" tier locations peppered everywhere
I don't care to type the rest of my complaints really. I'll watch a recap video on the story and get the 2nd on a sale or just wait for it to come to PC eventually, that one at least seems like it has more human enemy encounters to break up the monotony.

socialists can't play death stranding because they have no work ethic and they are also dumb

>>714157064
>>freeze the game to have the little light do its animation,

You can turn that off in options

>>714157147
Rare frogposter W

>>714115503
>PRETEND YOU WON

DS2 cultists are mentally retarded man

>>714157565
Post your top five favorite games and if a single one has an easy mode you put on a clown mask

>>714157565
>I'm too young to die
>picture of doomguy sucking on a pacifier
Kojima is mocking journos with this option zoomer

>>714157636
shut up nigger
you have less value than dirt you don't get to make demands here
I could btfo you in any scenario
go back to your shitty movie game

The actors are shit

>>714158175
>pretend you won

>>714157636
>easy mode
that's hard skip of the entire boss fight which is not easy mode, but a 5 iq person like you wouldn't know

>>714158230
>>714157903

This is not the insult you think it is lil bro

>>714147390
>bro it's about reconnecting america
look inside
>you're mario
>and I'm princess beach

>>714115440 (OP)
>there is no place in gaming for a cheap David Lynch knockoff
Gaming is exactly where second-rate people have gone in the past. There is a place for plenty of those in a hundred different dev studios.

>>714117268
>There's so much porn and whores online that there are cis girl and tranny versions of OF girls
Impressive.

>>714148051
>seething over typos
how low can we go?

I watched 9 hours of cutscenes on Youtube and I can't say I understood more after the 6 hour mark than I did before.

>>714115440 (OP)
Don't worry Expedition will win GOTY anyways. Kojima can pretend he won GOTY though.