EUROFAGS GET TO IT. WE HAVE TILL THE END OF THE MONTH TO REACH 1 MILLION.
>https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

pewdiepie dropped a post

>>714158775 (OP)
We’ve won.

>>714158775 (OP)
I don't want the government to be more involved with video games. the consequences might not be in our favor.

This won't achieve what you want it to

>>714159009

>>714158986
we won Mr.Stark...

also fuck you retarded reddit mods hope you burn in hell for deleting the posts

>>714159009
The government is already involved in video games via the military-industrial complex, PRISM, and BlackRock.

I am no longer demoralized.

>>714158775 (OP)
Fear not the corpo.
The shill.
The lunatic.

*saves your're vidya*

>>714159112
It's true.

>>714158775 (OP)
>still not a single peep from euro ecelebs
imagine how easy it would've been

>>714158986
who?

>>714159110
This cutscene is kino

let me get this straight anon.

You've been able to pull out more signatures on this because some whatever the fuck furfag e-celeb shitted on it, and now every libertarian or republican (even THOUGH right-wing chuds are supporting this as well) get called a corporate shill if they make an argument against state intervention?

You're telling me if you could give up all your rights and liberties to own the opposition you would do it?

>>714161242
niggerman talked about SKG?

Why do you worship mountains of literal garbage? Is this an hindu thing?

Mods need to take these threads the fuck down. These threads are not related to video games (they're eceleb trash), and coordinated raids are a bannable offense.

>>714158986
BASED

>>714161915
republicucks can't vote on this, because they're muttmericans

>>714158986
>A YouTube comment, not even a tweet
Who cares this is nothing

SALUTE THE FLAG RIGHT NOW

>>714162084
right-wing europeans can, and unlike american right-wingers european ones have fascist roots and are pretty much pro-nationalization. So i expect their support.

>>714158775 (OP)
>>714162208
not signing because i hate the eussr and will not give it any legitimacy by engaging with it, simple as

>>714162054
Type that again without crying this time.

>>714158775 (OP)
Fuck off to reddit with your faggot activism.

>>714158986
Nice one we might actually make it

>>714161316
this and based

>>714158986
>>714158986
why wont he make a video is he against this or what?

no one cares about this tweet or whatever, look, not even 10k likes

>>714162419
>not wanting to get fucked in the ass is communism

>No, we would not require the company to give up any of its intellectual property rights, only allow players to continue running the game they purchased. In no way would that involve the publisher forfeiting any intellectual property rights.
This campaign is fucking gay.

>>714162419
>you will own nothing and you will be happy

>10 hours left in the day
>already 21K signatures
Nice.

>>714162419
>suomi
ironically, finns have been by far the biggest supporters of the initiative

I don't follow internet drama but I'm curious, how did this nepo furry homosexual become so hated so quickly?
I remember a year ago Youtube was shoving him down everyone's throats, he was suddenly the Authority on game development for his Blizzard dad's job and his Undertale clone, being invited to conferences and shit, but now everyone wants to see him kill himself live on stream.
I've heard he cheated on a puzzle game but that can't really be it, right?

>>714162864
>Not at all. In asking for a game to be operable, we're not demanding all internal code and documentation, just a functional copy of the game.
You won't own shit if this passes lmao

>>714162419
>STOP THE COUNT!!

>>714159009
If you don't act to make sure the government regulates the way you want, then somebody else will. That's how it works.

looks like the pastaniggers are finally signing the damn petition but we need someone to make a deepfake of Thor eating a pineapple pizza so we can get more votes from them

>>714162801
If you didn't want to get fucked in the ass you wouldn't buy corpo slop.

>+21k

>>714161915
>You're telling me if you could give up all your rights and liberties to own the opposition you would do it?
If you're against this that's quite literally what you're doing, you're giving up your right to ownership (and money) to own a perceived opposition that's actually working to make your life a tiny bit less shitty.

>>714162967
He roached on a WoW permadeath server with a bunch of other streamers and kept making excuses instead of apologizing

>>714162967
Mainly being a narcissistic retard who fucked up, but both refuses to admit he was wrong and refuses to just step out of public view for a few months until people find something else to get enraged about.

>>714162967
Something to do with fucking up in a hardcore classic wow raid and his general response to that made people realize he was always kind of an asshole and it just sorta spiraled from that

>>714162967
Gamers are insane autists, if you cross them it's ogre

>>714162967
As far as I know, his Early Access game was floundering for a while, then he made a hostile response to SKG, then there was a WoW controversy where he let his raid mates die and lose their characters in an iron man mode, then he started streaming puzzles games like Animal Well and Outer Wilds and was blatantly looking shit up, then this SKG thing happened again. I personally only knew about him after the first SKG debacle.

>>714158775 (OP)
>700K REACHED

>>714163008
But you faggots aren't regulating the way I want. You're not forcing game devs to give us the source code after they completely abandon slop game.
>I REALIZE YOU WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS IP BUT YOU CAN KEEP IT ANYWAY
Actually pathetic.

This is what will happen if it reaches the goal

>gets discussed for 10 minutes in the EU parliament
>is never brought up again because the bureaucrats don't give a shit about the games themselves and are actively invested in companies that provide games as a service

And that's precisely why you SHOULD sign it, as this would expose the EU for what it is to every gamer, a bunch of asshole commies who don't want to do good

Is it likely we'll gain at least just 1% of the vote everyday until the end?

>>714162203
he literally said he was going to make it a big part of his next video

>>714163109
The problem with your right thing is you can always stop buying that, something you can't stop doing. Because the majority of games the moment i buy them i own them, unlike corposlop.

>>714162864
You wont own those saved copies either if your old copie dies. This shit benefits no one

I agree on a principle. I want server browsers and self hosting option.

However, you "people" are the rong ones to go to bat over this. you are not qualified, you are cringe, and you are retarded.

You will fumble this. You have already fumbled this. You don't speak for me. Even if we agree on something. I don't recognize you.

>>714163196
Yea but the thing you want is retarded, the thing I want is likely to become law in 200k more signatures

>>714163035
>I don't like this type of society
>"but you live in a society, how curious"
Nigga neck yourself

>>714163347
>the thing I want is likely to become law in 200k more signatures
bruh

>>714163347
You're a cuck

>>714163017
Do we need italy?

>>714163279
You own none of you steam games nor do you own anything on the pass and psn+
Yet all you talk about î thise thread is your "freedom" to pirate mario kart

>>714162967
>screwup his hardcore WoW dungeon run
>could've saved it by simply apologising
>instead doubles down, lies out of his ass and blames everyone else
>again lies out of his ass while playing puzzle games
>solves hard puzzle games that take the community weeks if not months to solve by simply looking at it
>bro, my brain just works differently because I worked at blizzard and have three black defcon badges
>someone leaks decade old chats of him that show he's some gay furry perv
>is simply a vindicative fuck that can take no accountability
>fakes his voice
He's just an unpleasant person all around who thinks he farts with the eloquence of Plato and will never ever apologise for anything wrong he did.
He just figured out how to game the shorts algorithm for a while to weasel his way into everyone’s feed with his half-wit takes.

@nick we need another argument to divide them

>>714161242
what a fucking nigger

>>714163352
Nothing about living in a society requires for you to buy the latest AAA online slop, you can just stop and get some help

The fact that there are people in this thread whining like bitches that somebody is close to successfully forcing publishers to preserve games is the surest sign that /v/ is just infested with industry shills.

>>714163437

>>714159112
wait until it reaches 80% for the corporate sponsored hate campaign to start

>>714163313
I don't care about your opinion, though.

>>714162054
>not related to video games
Let me get this straight: Threads about owning your videogames, videogame publishers delisting videogames, videogame publishers killing videogames, people having private servers for their videogames, DRM free games that need no online components and people playing videogames on dedicated servers/LAN are not about videogames?

>>714163352
You're buying a toy.
Not bread, not water, not housing, it's a fucking corporate made toy.

You didn't do shit for increasing standards of living in any other sector, but when it comes to videogames you guys flipped your asses by the millions?

>>714163178
>>714163429
Cheating puzzle games on stream is the weirdest part, you're just robbing yourself of more content and money, streamers acting like a retards is what makes the chat happy. Ego is a terrible thing.

>>714163261
I doubt it'll be slow and steady like that, especially since the signature rate seems to be increasing these past two days. The momentum doesn't show any signs of stopping right now and it honestly feels like it'll hit one million before the deadline, which is good since there needs to be some extras in case a good amount of the signatures get thrown out. At the very least I don't think it'll flatline like it did between the start of the campaign and today.

>>714163429
>>solves hard puzzle games that take the community weeks if not months to solve by simply looking at it
>>bro, my brain just works differently because I worked at blizzard and have three black defcon badges
video of this? i wanna see it lmao

>>714163017
Yeah, because it was covered by a couple of Italian websites yesterday.

>>714158775 (OP)
It was around 680,000 yesterday around this time. How the feth did they reach 710,000 in 24 hours? Was there another drama boost?

>>714163116
I'd even fucking agree that the RL made a bad call that caused him to run first, had he just said that both fucked up, the lead for the bad call, him for not going back but instead wasting his mana all this shit could've been avoided.
But he's so far up his own ass he cannot ever admit any fault whatsoever.

>>714159009
my man, the Department of defense funds game journos. in 2015 they forced moot to sell 4chan to them over us trolling them over it. they declared gamers a terrorist organization for noticing their involvement. that was 10 years ago btw

>>714163419
So what do you want, a CD for every virtual indie fart game?

Just pirate them at this point.

what's with this ferret thing? he actually fucks ferrets?

>>714163279
>Just ignore the problem bro it will go away
I stopped buying those games a long time ago and they still keep forcing this shit down everyone's throat because unlike 30 years ago when this wasn't a thing, your decades of apathy have allowed this shit to happen in the first place, if you ignore an infection it doesn't magically go away, it gets worse, which is why you go to a fucking doctor to get yourself checked.
Also you don't own any of the shit you bought, because it's all corposlop in the first place, which is something you'd knew if you actually played vidya, but you don't, because we're on /vpol/ and you're a fucking tourist leech who's only interested in your second hand political propaganda, so fuck off and die.

>>714163590
>How the feth did they reach 710,000 in 24 hours? Was there another drama boost
The Brofist Army

>>714163503
i'm simply more contrarian than you, normalfriend

>>714163497
>anon still thinks this is all because of AAA garbage

>>714163549
I buy a thing, and I want to use for as long as I wish while technology is still able to so, not because some faggot publisher wants to pull the plug. Really fucking simple, nigger. Your word salad means nothing.

>>714158775 (OP)
burn

>>714163017
I guess my threat of breaking and cutting their pasta if they don't sign worked.

>>714158775 (OP)
destroy all video games.

>>714163691
Maldavius Figtree

>>714161915
>give up all your rights
Gov already isn't bothered by giving you one. So why not use them for benefit for once?
>rights and liberties
Name them.
>to own the opposition
No one cares what Hasan fanbase thinks. We just want the right to play our games back.

>>714158775 (OP)
>Q: Can you really expect all features in an online-only game to work when support ends?
>A: Not necessarily. We understand some features can be impractical for an end user to attain if running a server on an end-user system.
KEK did you retards even read this? You will achieve NOTHING even if the gay Jews at the EU parliament don't use this proposal as toilet paper.
>Here's your menu screen bro. None of thesee buttons actually do anyhting.
I hate yuropoors even more now holy shit.

PLAYEMPRESERVEM AND BRIDGE SLURSTY LINKED UP
NEED IT OR KEEP IT?

>>714163691
People dug up that he is a gay furry with a ferret fursona AND he has a ferret rescue center. You kinda just need to add 2 and 2 from there.

>>714163263
where?

>>714163703
Not buying something it's not doing nothing, it's called boycotting.

>>714163725
Then buy better things instead of crying like a faggot for a scam service.
>BOOHOO I WANT TO OWN MY VIDEOSLOP THAT WILL BE IRRELEVANT AFTER A YEAR

>>714163725
>>anon still thinks this is all because of AAA garbage
Well isn't it? Which non-AAA game is affected by this? Hell, do non-AAA always online games even exist?

>>714163017
>>714163735
It's currently 35 degrees Celsius (95 fahrenheit) in the north of Italy. Further south is even hotter. Everyone is inside their homes playing FIFA. Now is the time to strike.

>>714163853
Ferrets are notable for having extremely narrow shoestring intestines. They can be clogged up by a single fruit seed.
I don't like the implications.

congrats on being a more obnoxious and cringe filled political movement than gamergate and chanology combined.

>>714163006
>Owning is communism
>Somehow a petition gives EU more power
People are dangerously retarded.

I earnestly believe Pirate saved this campaign by being such a poor and hated figurehead for the opposition which drove all the drama the campaign needed to get the attention of everyone

>>714162054
Sure thing, bud.
But you have to go first.

>>714158986
OHNONONONO
Pirate fucking lost now

>>714163881
>it's called boycotting.
Yeah, and it's not working, now get fucked.

>>714163834
all features not working is not the same thing as nothing working anon, my man woke up today and chose schizophrenia

>>714163313
You are not wrong but it's not us who are doing it. There are more qualified people behind the initiative. We just sign and raise awareness so that we all reap the benefits. Including you.

>>714158775 (OP)
Can I get a tl;dr?
Is this about gacha shit closing servers?
I mostly play retro games, I don't care about modern slop.

>>714163549
It's the greatest form of art, but niggers can't understand this.

>>714161915
let me get this straight anon.

State intervention isn't a bad thing 100% of the time.

>>714163579
It was in one of his shorts, but the guy has thousands of them by now.
I'll try to find it in one of the puzzle reactions to the roach that are now out, one is bound to have that part in it since it's just too good to leave out.

>>714163929
i don't get why /v/ hates him so much, that guy is literally every /v/irgin reincarnate

>>714163834
Let's say Call of Duty Suck Cocks 8 is an always online game with a campaign. The servers go down, and you can't play any part of it.
Now let's say it's a normal game with multiplayer and a campaign, the servers go down, you can still play the campaign and LAN matches.
The latter SKG doesn't apply to. The former it does.

>>714163579
https://youtu.be/flSC3OiTvA8?t=1017

>>714163985
How will an online-only game function without servers? You're not asking the game devs to give up ownership so it's still up to them.

>>714164038
Bro just don't have children, it's that easy

>>714164038
>State intervention isn't a bad thing 100% of the time.
This kills the amerimutt.

>>714164015
Read the FAQ.
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/faq

>>714163939
>it's not working
They're all in red from pulling bullshit every 5 minutes, why do you need to correct ubishit.

>>714164068
>that guy is literally every /v/irgin reincarnate
He's actually a huge redditor. /v/ might hate videogames but they hate posers more, and if you have to pretend you're big brain when you can't even beat the Outer Wilds quantum camera puzzle without looking it up, you're a pretty big poser.

>>714164038
Yeah man, i love when they tell me to kill all the sparrows in order to improve grain production.

>>714164038
>putting out of a job several disciplined entrepreneurial individuals of young age
Typical commie bullshit

>>714158775 (OP)
But what if I want games to die?

>>714163834
You can't expect to chat with someone else in offline mode.
>westoid comics
>absolutely moronic take
Like clockwork.

>>714164097
So all you'll be able to play is the campaign no one cares about? They're not even going to force devs to implement community servers?

>>714164015
you know how you can still play old first person shooters multiplayer? even if there's no community for it, it's technically possible for like minded people to get together to play it, and you can still play the single player stuff and mod the game?
now you'd be paying for a game where everything depends on a central server, piracy isn't an option, and when the devs decide the game isn't making enough money, no more servers, which means you can't play the single player, you can't play the multiplayer, most of the game is lost. Stop killing games is trying to make it so companies have to provide either a date of expiration, or release tools for the community to make their own servers when the games shut down.

>>714164120
the point is to get the server software so you can host a server on your own raspberry pi

>>714163885
I just need to go to chatgpt, not even that hard

1. Live Service Indie Games
These are games built around persistent online features like matchmaking, events, or progression systems.

"Realm of the Mad God" – A bullet-hell MMO with permadeath, developed by Wild Shadow and later acquired by DECA Games. It’s always online and very lightweight.

"Trove" – Voxel-based MMO by Trion Worlds (not AAA). Always online with a persistent world.

"Warframe" – Not indie anymore, but Digital Extremes wasn’t AAA when they launched it. Requires online connection at all times.

2. Indie MMOs and Persistent Worlds
Some non-AAA studios launch small-scale MMORPGs or social sandbox games.

"Wurm Online" – A survival MMO co-created by Markus Persson (Notch). Deep crafting and building, always online.

"Tibia" – An old-school MMORPG still running, developed by CipSoft (definitely not AAA).

"AdventureQuest 3D" – From Artix Entertainment, always online, built on Unity.

3. Games with Server-Based Logic or Anti-Cheat
Even games that look like they could be offline may require constant connection because of how they’re structured.

"Dead by Daylight" (early on) – Not AAA originally (Behavior Interactive). Servers host matches, so it’s online-only.

"Destiny-like" clones – Some indie devs try to emulate the Destiny/Division model with hub-based multiplayer and missions.

4. Mobile and Cross-Platform Indie Games
Many non-AAA games on mobile or PC are always online, either for monetization, cloud saves, or matchmaking.

"Among Us" – Online-only unless you're playing locally.

"Genshin Impact" – While big, it’s technically from a non-AAA studio (miHoYo, now HoYoverse, was mid-tier at launch).

"Brawl Stars" / "Clash Royale" – Supercell isn’t AAA in the traditional sense.

>>714163881
Buying other shit is irrelevant when every single fucking publisher can pull the plug and fuck you in the ass.

>>714164120
>How will an online-only game function without servers?
In many ways
Releasing binaries for private servers (WoW)
Making a paid single purchase offline version (animal crossing pocket camp, Mega Man x Dive)
Allowing a specific group to host servers semi-officially, etc.

>>714158986
Linuxbros we won

>>714164181
Well, people against it say this will kill the game industry so, sign on.

>>714163834

>>714164038
>State intervention isn't a bad thing 100% of the time.
>is sent to war and dies for the elite
>next protectionist and regulatory policy skyrocks goods and services
yeah whatever

>>714164195
>Westoid
Good to see ya here mate. Pretty based.

Where is that 600k anon bitch.

>>714164259
>this will kill the game industry
SIGN ME THE FUCK UP

>>714162967
>"just admit your fuck-up and say you're sorry"
>"no"
That's all.

People giving their money to greedy jews are the ones killing video games.
>$80 for a digital game
>$100 + tip for deluxe edition
>dlc out the ass
>no dedicated servers
>microtransactions
>catering to trannies and mentally ill freaks
>call someone nigger, permabanned and sent to gulag
Whatever they do to fuck you in the ass, I'm happy about it.

>>714158986
>completes main life story quest
>starts doing every single sidequest
>moves to Japan and learns the language
>family life cleared
>learns Linux
>starts homebrewing and SSH

Pewdiepie has been on an absolute BASED streak recently and I'm very happy to see it

Stop spamming.

>>714164270
He isn't talking about the US though.

>>714164261
would hitler sign an EU petition you brown retard?

>>714158775 (OP)
How do I donate money to Ross for the campaign?

>>714164413
Considering the EU was basically Deutschland Uber Alles (or would still be if he were around) sure!

>>714164436
He isn't accepting any funding.

>>714164229
So you're wrong and it literally only affects AAA games
>b-but look at all these literal whos!!
I accept your concession
It's time to stop consooming

>>714163017
Better late than never pasta bros

>>714164387
Effects of state intervention are pretty much global regardless of the country, biggest example is price control leading to shortage or overproduction.

>>714164229
With the proper tools you can set up a private server for most of them without too many demands, the rest are not worth saving.
Besides, the initative isn't asking for retroactive change, so what exists now doesn't matter and will inevitably die.

>>714158775 (OP)
I doubt my signature will mean much, we are not exactly popular with EU these days
anyway +1

>>714164523
Someone should tell yotobi to get off his Egyptian ass and get to work.

STOP
FUCKING
POSTING
LISTEN TO ACTUAL DEVELOPERS

>>714164464
Does he have a patreon or anything like that?

>>714164564
Kill every single developer

>>714164559
>I doubt my signature will mean much, we are not exactly popular with EU these days
It's a +1 from the poorest Greek to the richest swede regardless. Your signature means we're one step closer to winning this.

>>714163881
>it's called boycotting
It does not work since a lot fo those games are being sold to little Timmy that is 12 years old and does not understand what he is doing. There is a reason a lot of videogame publishers make sure that games like that are targeting kids nad a PG.
>Fortnite is rated T for Teen 13+
Do you think that 13year olds understand?
>The Crewis rated T for Teen 13+
Do you think that a 13 year old that bought The Crew a few months before the videogame got killed by Ubisoft understood what always online meant? Do you think that this 13 year old understood the EULA? Do you think that this 13 year old is legally bound by this videogame EULA? Some of those talking points should be brought infront of the EU comission. Videogame Publishers should get assraped for their faggotry targeting kids and exploting the kids lack of knowledge.

>>714164436
See here (at 11m34s): https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?si=9vLVNMW5TVMI31IL&t=694

>>714158775 (OP)
A petition is not going to change bad consumer habits, if anything this just amplifies it. I want the consumer to suffer for the consequences of their own actions else the animal will never learn

>>714164665
Americans will suffer still don't worry

>>714164120
the same way ragnarok online had private servers

>>714164584
He has this, but it's not for SKG purposes.
https://www.accursedfarms.com/donations/

>>714164564
Nice LARP.

>>714164624
Says 12 years old on the box cover so a kid 12 years old could buy this game with his lunch money.

>>714164236
>>714164710
>Releasing binaries for private servers
Is this campaign actually aiming for this? Most games don't allow community servers.

>>714163225
>games as a service
it do be that way, huh? when will wagies wake the fuck up and vote for real parties?

>>714164624
Ah ok at this point we move to "SOMEONE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!" no matter if children get tired of this shit over time and grow up.

>>714164564
>It's not the 90's anymore where the ccodebase for an entire game can just be packaged up and viewed
And yet people have reversed engineers games from the 2010's like DDO and created their own private servers just fine..., but sure thing redditbro I totally believe you

>>714164202
>LAN
>Community server
>API so that the community can easily make their own server

>>714158775 (OP)
live service games have a limited lifetime by design. they function like venues. you keep them open for exactly as long as they're profitable.
if you prefer games you can keep playing forever, good for you. go buy those games. but there's a huge market for live service games.

>but they should say exactly how long the game will run for
not realistic. say Concord was announced to run for 15 years, billion dollar sensation it was slated to be. now what? would Sony be legally bound to keep it running at a loss?

>but they should add dedicated server support for end-of-life
do lots of extra work for free implementing legacy technology, just so a tiny fraction of your user base can play the game in a way it wasn't even designed to be played?
this is like asking car manufacturers to include a manual transmission toggle in all automatic cars.

>>714164564
>you need third party services to make LAN
in what world bro

A big reason why some low tier developers are against this is because it might be four hours of extra work

>>714164564
>hello I'm a developer from big AAA gulag from texas oblast
It's literally this, if you're an AAA dev and you spew such bullshit, then o wonder why gaming companies keep firing them in drowes
fucking talentless hacks and trannoids together with other diversity hires, making game to be playable in offline mode at most takes a little more time and it's more of a brainstrm than engineering poblem, since again, every fucking df have literal offline dev build of a game when working on it

EVERYONE SAY "BROFIST" TO THANK OUR ARYAN KING

Daily Reminder EA of all companies have done their part and made a pro-gamer move, instead of an anti-SKG move.

https://x.com/80Level/status/1895375887258026048

>>714164165
retard

>>714164793
Heck yeah! We should let videogame corporations exploit kids!

>>714158986
What a lazy piece of shit, not even a YouTube video from the guy who got rich because of video games

>>714162419
Vitun vajakki, ei tää anna niille uusia oikeuksia vaan me pakotetaan ne kerrankin tekeen hyviä lakeja rahoilla jotka ne on jo meidan hallituksilta vienyt??????

>>714164895
He's making one anon, come on. No way he doesn't make one after acknowledging this. Imagine how terrible for optics that would he if it fails and he didn't do shit.

>>714158775 (OP)
sorry lolberts, you WILL have consumer rights

>>714164564

>>714164804
Hi Thor glad you could make it to the thread

>>714164920
ei kiitos :)

>>714164564
>We simply do not have the legal infrastructure to accomodate this
Well, you raise the pricetag of videogames to 80 ameridollars so you might as well use that extra 20 dollars you're stealing from us to make some infraestructure.

The "We don't currently have this" is not an excuse, build one.

Isn't it funny that citizens have to go through all this trouble just to have a CHANCE of something being considered for legislation, but when the elites/politicians decide they don't like something they can just make it illegal in weeks with no regard to what the people think about it?

>>714164804
>live service games have a limited lifetime by design. they function like venues.
if they were subscription services maybe, but they aren't.
It is in fact realistic for devs at massive companies - the only companies who are actually making this stuff btw because they have the economies of scale to develop it - to figure out worthwhile end of life plans.

>>714164564
>ACTUAL DEVELOPERS

>>714164980
ECIs are specifically a direct democracy tool anon.

>lol let's kill every indie games because I can't play the crew
kys

>>714158986
This was pretty much over, it was nowhere near its goal. I think the guy even made a statement that he lost, right up until the drama started at the last minute and now its probably gonna reach the goal, lmao.

>>714164980
>Input a code in a website through a phone app
>All this trouble
Yes, we live in a society, you are very intelligent

>>714165050
BASED. TOTAL INDIE DEATH.

>>714165050
Elaborate your point, why do you think this would kill every indie game.

>>714164873
Why, what part of our society is not exploiting kids? from candies rotting their teeth, toys, videogames, TV and streaming, schools bombing them with shit propaganda.

Why am i supposed to end up in chains because you can't watch over children? Blend their media with adult one like 30 years ago so they grow up.

>>714158986
Can someone link this comment's video?

>>714165050
if there are any always-online indie games i can GUARANTEE that they are turbo dogshit, and i play almost exclusively indies
no this does not affect indies

>>714164780
>Is this campaign actually aiming for this?
Read the SKG website.
>Most games don't allow community servers.
And the campaign will make that behavior illegal. You'll be forced by law to allow players to host private servers, and not just that, but you'll be obligated to facilitate the playerbase to do so (aka: with an instruction manual)

The only thing this will achieve is making jewish lawyers millions of dollars as they get it shut down in the consultation phase.

>>714165050
>kill every indie games
name one indie game that is also an always online live service game right now

>>714163109
>right to ownership
that will not be impacted by this initiative.
games will still be sold as licenses and you will still lose your money if you say no no words.
live service games will still be made because they'll still be insanely profitable.

how come game journalists are completely ignoring this whole thing? no signal boost, no articles nothing.

>>714165127
probably the latest pewdiepie video?

>>714164797
Genshin Impact has private servers so yes, that redditor is full of shit. Modern games are no different from old games.

>>714164564
>hey why big companeis keep throwing away hundreds of devs!
>see this reddit post
NO FUCKING WONDER WHY, those fucking hacks would never get a job outside gaming industry

>>714158986
based

>>714165184
Very antisemitic post.

>>714164564
>we won't make online games
GOOD. GREAT. FANTASTIC. AWESOME. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

>>714165184
It isn't a top down movement, the journalist HATES grassroots movements.

>>714165125
>from candies rotting their teeth
Regulated in Europe
>toys
You don't want your kids to have toys?
>videogames
About to be regulated in Europe
>TV and streaming
Regulated in Europe under the AVMSD
>schools
That's your problem

>>714165179
world of tanks

>>714165184
because game journalists are in cahoots with big game companies, thats literally what gamergate was about until said journalists spun into being about sexism or whatever

>>714165184
They're not, actually. All of the major ones have covered it from what I've seen.

>>714165050
>>lol let's kill every indie games
Already debunked by indie devs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIZLyap0iNU (Indie developer)

>>714165179
Inscryption has a bit, funnily enough.

>>714165219
People want fortnite and genshin you DOOFUS

>I'll have to... MAKE A FUN GAME WITH AN OFFLINE MODE?
>And, and... And I won't be able to SELL MTX?
>AIEEEE COMMUNIST YOU ARE OPPRESSING ME

>>714164850
BATTERIES
WHEN THE MORNINGS GONE AND YOU CAN'T GO ON

>>714164564
Reluctance to change in the workplace is a real thing. I have to deal with it at work, even when it's safety related changes.

>>714164959
Mä allekirjotin melkein pelkästään sen takia että ne suojatyöpaikka loiset joutus kerrankin tekeen työtä josta ne meiltä veroa nyhtää mutta sä vissii mielummin maksat ja annat niiden perseillä kaupanpäälle.

>>714161915
This is giving you back your rights stolen by corporations though

>>714165053
Its incredible. Legit movie-like shit like Gondor from LOTR.

>>714165050
You mean indie games like: Noita(DRM free on GOG)? Factorio(DRM free on GOG)? Void Bastards(DRM free on GOG)? Project Zomboid(DRM free on GOG and you can host your own servers)? UnderRail(DRM free on GOG)? DeadCells(DRM free on GOG)? Styx:Shards of Darkness(DRM free on GOG)? ECHO(DRM free on GOG)? Rimworld(DRM free on GOG)? UnEpic(DRM free on GOG and you can host your own co-op)? Blasphemous(DRM free on GOG)? Hellpoint(DRM free on GOG)? Do i have to keep going or am i getting my point trough?

>>714165275
world of tanks is an "indie game" the same way george lucas was an "indie filmmaker"

Actual dev (unlike roach):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-RaQZPzhqU

PewDiePie was always /ourguy/
https://youtu.be/jlxX0phpEOY

>>714165409
semmoset voimikset sieltä :D

inshallah the furret faggot kills himself

>>714158775 (OP)
VISUALIZE THE LINE REACHING 100%
NOW
PLS BE REAL PLS BE REAL PLS BE REAL PLS BE REAL PLS BE REAL PLS BE REAL PLS BE REAL PLS BE REAL PLS BE REAL

>>714165264
>Regulated in Europe
Huge bullshit i live here.
>You don't want your kids to have toys?
The chinese plastic shit sponsored in christmas they throw away after a month? Scam.
>About to be regulated in Europe
Good luck
>Regulated in Europe under the AVMSD
Today with 50% more trannies.
>That's your problem
Which is why you would be a shit parent.

>>714165184
Videogame journalists are owned by videogame publishers. They are in their pocket. Videogame journalists will barely cover this once it passes so they don't look completely suspicious.

>>714164564
>we simply do not have the legal infrastructure to accomodate this
Well tought shit bucko, better get one then

>>714165184
jews are NOT HAPPY with it, so talking golem is prohibited from speaking

>>714165179
The game Pirate Software is making does this lol

>>714164564
>write whole paragraphs listing why the initiative is necessary
>'but this is a bad thing'
kek, AAA is so rotten

>>714164564
>LISTEN TO ACTUAL DEVELOPERS
"Waaaaah" - developers

Tough shit, git gud.

I know some in this thread are sucking corpo dick on purpose, but most americans in this thread are actually genuinely retarded, like 80 IQ.

The point isn't to ensure that the service is always online and maintained, it's giving the player some way to play the game even if the official servers are gone.


Counter Strike comes to mind, that's literally the model they need to adhere to, You can boot it up now, No official servers, but it has a server browser, and you can host a game if you want.

The crew is dead, you can't even play offline

>>714158775 (OP)
Good luck with that.

>>714165497
I just want him to become washed up. Would've been fine with him doing his thing in his corner of the internet but he had to punch out of his lane.

>>714165515
>Huge bullshit i live here.
You haven't seen American Candy standards then
>The chinese plastic shit sponsored in christmas they throw away after a month? Scam.
Exactly that, they can no longer poison your kid by using toxic chemicals to color them thanks to the EU by the way.
>Today with 50% more trannies.
No argument
>Which is why you would be a shit parent.
Unlike you, I'd pick a good school.

>>714163389
>>714163402
I see we've moved on to the next stage of cope. Sad!

>>714162054
You don't know what raiding means, you fucking retard.

just pirate everything instead of being a sad little cuck dependent on gobernment

>>714159009
>I don't want the government to be more involved with video games
they already put gamers on their field with the five guys debacle, there's no way out of getting buttfucked without playing by their rules.

>>714165613
>Anti-abortion initiative
It was never going to pass in the first place cro

>>714165590
>i want to keep playing a dead videogame after all the fans moved to the next big thing

>>714165179
Online multiplayer indie games do actually exist. Even if they don't run dedicated servers, they usually have a central server for finding servers hosted by other players. With SKG, this central server would need to be released after support is discontinued I believe.

>>714163834
MMOs are a lost cause. But some online-only games have singleplayer modes.

>>714165515
>Huge bullshit i live here.
i do also live here and guess what
comapre what for example, a basic grocery store sells in US and what's being sold in EU
i can straight up bet 100 euro that 70% of US products cannot be sold in EU due to health regulations and non-european pridycers were screeching about it for decades already. Best example being palm oil or other oil i think used to make potato chips
there's a lot og thigns you can shit on in EU. But you cannot shit on them on how aggresive they are in protecting consumer rights, and considering hwo they force right to repair and universal charger, there's no corp big enough to stop them

Advertising or begging.

>CP spam
He's scared.

>>714165127
It's a post on the community tab.

>>714165671
Damn. My daughter is packing on some meat.

>>714165346
That's kids and normies, only corpo worry about them

>>714165750
>MMOs are a lost cause
I have seen this posted in multiple threads about SKG, so I am assuming it's you making them all. What do you even mean by that? Private MMO servers are some of the easiest things to do.

>>714164385
you forgot
>starts drawing cute anime girls

>>714165438
wot started tiny, with unknown devs, a minimal budget, and fully self-published. it's as indie as it gets.

and shit like this could've killed the entire venture, it was by risky enough to invest in to begin with.

>>714165184
I saw PCGamer cover it a couple times so good on them.

>shitting up 4chan threads with CP will save my heckin' wholesome streamer!
why are they like this

>>714165629
>thank god my son is not poisoned with shit chemicals now i can just spend money for bullshit to fuel his/her dopamine addiction
Also sugar in euro candies still rot your teeth and make you fat but you're a dumb nigger anyways who can't into critical thinking.

>>714165147
>You'll be forced by law to allow players to host private servers
Whether or not I'll sign the shit hinges on this: Will they be forced to support private servers BEFORE they drop support for their games?

>>714158986
remember lads, subscribe to pewdiepie

>>714165851
When world of tanks shuts down they can just give everyone press accounts and allow them to self-host.

>>714165613
you're mixing a controversial society issue with basic consumer rights
apple tried and got fucked double time and US gov acting as apple lapdog trying to force an intervention also didn't help
they do not give a single fuck, they're willing to burn every non-eu citizen alive if it means to protect EU citizen rights

>>714165875
i'd imagine so, don't think taking servers offline and then indefinitely delaying the release of server software is gonna fly

>roughly 200000 signatures in 7 days
oh yeah once pewdiepie drops his video this shit is in the bag

>>714159009
>our favor
t.mr shekelgoldsteinbergen

Always glad to wake up and see more than 20K signatures. Today looks exta promising.

>>714165870
>dopamine addiction
Goalpost shifting retard who doesn't know what he's talking about confirmed. No point to argue any longer.

>>714165875
>Will they be forced to support private servers BEFORE they drop support for their games?
Obviously not, because that would result in actual lost sales. This entire initiative is about when games shut down.

>my enemies are literally pedophiles
Feels good to be in the right

>>714159009
The government is already heavily involved in vidya games.
If that wasn't the case then piracy would be legal, private servers would be legal and I'd be allowed to kill any ceo that tried to destroy my games.

>>714165953
It's over if he doesn't drop one.

>>714165053
The power of social media drama is fucking absurd.

>>714165753
So what, sugar is still poison and candiea are widely available and obesity increasing, as if i give a shit about US being le worse, we're talking avout videogames not goods for your basic needs, this deflection went on long enough.

>>714165998
Maldavious won't escape his wrath. He's the kind of man he hates.

>>714165901
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>714164385
I'm very envious of him although Id want to date someone local to get closer to the community

>>714165705
yes, shouldnt you be allowed to?
My mom bought me a Jurassic Park T-Rex that makes a sound when you hit him in the back.
I can still play with it right now, nothing is stopping me from playing with my toy T-Rex.

Had I not broke up with my fiancee, my son would have played with that same T-Rex. Similarly, my son should also be able to play old videogames that I enjoyed.

>>714165953
Video right now is not guaranteed, unless he responds to the demand from comments section.

>>714165834
Sure, but private servers are also reliant on some guys server, unless you can run the whole thing yourself easily.
And yeah, releasing some code or something might help to get more private serves, which is fine by my, but on the whole I still expect to see a lot of dead mmos, because some will simply don't get said private servers.

I am more concerned with life service/gaas/forced online infecting singleplayer games. In my mind Steam and other forced online launcher stores really are the crux, because they trained people to rely on forced online platform to run their games.
But in any case, the practice of turning singelpalyer games (or singleplayer component of it has MP) should be fought. And fine, they can have forced online while they sell the game, but if they shut the servers down there should be options for your to play the game, removing the DRM/forced online.

>>714158775 (OP)
are goyim really signing a petition thinking it will make any difference? that's adorable but also kind of pathetic that they think theyll be listened to

>>714158986
that's the based n word guy, cool

>>714164068
We shit on each other all the time

>>714166045
He was already married with a kid before he moved if I remember correctly.

>>714165831
what is that? that ain pee

>>714165978
>because that would result in actual lost sales
Games have had community servers since the early 2000's. If this petition doesn't restore that, then I'm not really interested in signing it.

>>714165975
>Goalpost shifting
>Oh my science! A product has more than one problem?
>WELL ACKHTUALLY I SHOULD OWN VIDEOGAMES AND HAVE CUSTOMER RIGHTS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE BAD FOR MY ATTENTION SPAN
You are a clown.

>>714166127
Runner's diarrhea

if you buy a piece of software under the condition that it might stop working after the company stops supporting it then you should have no recourse when they do stop supporting it. don't like it? then don't buy live service games

>>714165980
It always like that. You can be pretty sure any faggot related to fucking shit up for an average Joe is a pedo in a position in power. It's like they came in package...

>>714166015
Not really, Ross is just one of those retards who think the nobility of the cause is more important than achieving their goals.
There's a reason why most political campaign funds are directed to marketing, the more people you reach, as in the more ads you run, the more rallies you host, the more people see you, the more successful you are.

Your motives, what you're trying to achieve literally doesn't matter to anybody. Doesn't matter if it's noble, corrupt, you could be the second coming of christ or lucifer himself, and you'd still be worthless if you don't have a campaign set for max visibility.

>>714166069
Ms Schlein you lost the election. Please go back to whining about people not voting in your referendum.

Stop posting online and tell the real world. Your school friends, your parents, your siblings and relatives, put stop killing games billboards and posters in the streets. Make it as Viral as Kony 2012.

>>714166069
>that's adorable but also kind of pathetic that they think theyll be listened to
There's regulations in place that make it so that if enough signatures are reached, they will have to look at it and listen to it. Is this a foreign concept to amerimutts?

>>714166127
Dude shat himself on run and kept pushing forward to win.

>>714166146
Retreating into schizobabble only makes my refusal to argue with you more justified.

Four digits!

>UNDER 10K SIGNATURES NEEDED PER DAY

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>714166158
That's nice, but I can see them moving all games, even purely singleplayer ones, into forced online/live service mode in the future.

>>714166069
>a petition
This is not a petition. This is an ECI(European Citizens Initiative). It is a mechanism for direct democracy withing the EU. In this case it is being out into action by European gamers that want to own the videogames they paid for. There is also a hude support for this outside of the EU since it could lead to similar changes around the world.

>>714166143
>Games have had community servers since the early 2000's
Yeah but most developers made games back then because they enjoyed making games. Now 9/10 games are only made to get profit, so there's no good-will since everything is about making as much money as possible.

>Wake up to 65%
>Go to sleep at 71%
Love you cunts.
Greetings from Australia.

Not enough streamers have been harassed to talk about this. Someone get to it

>>714166023
there's diffirence between a drink having a shitton of sugar like coca cola, and drink being ltierally 50% compsoed of sugar liek fucking US coca cola. This shit is fucking cheaper than a literal bottle of water you retard
you can still, die from simply overdosing water. yes, you can drink a lot of water and die. Should EU ban water then?
Comission bans a product, that by itself, in a single dose is dangerous. Gov is not there to babysti you 24/7 because if they didn't you'll eat 10kg of candies. You're getting fat, because goverment gices you FREEDOM in making decision what you want to eat. They still spam you with adds about not eating a shitton of fat foods, they still tell you don't eat shitton of candy or sugar-rich products. They spam those cancer pictures on cigarettes to tell you the consequences of smoking. Its YOUR FUCKING CHOICE to get fucking fat as fuck and die from lung cancer, despite them informing you on every step that what you gonna do will hurt you, but they cannot force you to stop because that would directly impede your freedoms you colossal retards. Somethign that the supposed land of the free doesn't have and people drink gallons of literal kidney poison

>>714161915
I believe the goal of every government regarding internal domestic affairs is to regulate human behavior to make people play fair and not kill each other. Corporations using materials that inevitably give people cancer or obesity? Government should step in. Companies making their shit obsolete and unusable after a year? The government should step in. Entities deciding to move operations out of the country to sell their services and products right back the same economy that built them up? Government should step in.

What the government should not do is make completely people dependent on it for basic existence. I'm not saying welfare programs shouldn't exist but generally people have to be productive and contribute to society. So it's imperative that there's an understanding that welfare programs are to help people get off their feet and there should be heavy heavy consequences for abusing those programs.

>>714166262
you are unwilling to take into account a reality with multiple problems, keep chickening out

>>714166348
They're the demographic least likely to do so since they all have ties to Ludwig, and he is in cahoots with Pirate Shartware.

>>714166065
>but private servers are also reliant on some guys server,
and? That's all SKG is asking for. Give the fanbase the ability and opportunity to host their own servers if you can't officially support the game anymore.

>they post CP AGAIN
It's over, shlomo. Doing it under slav's ip wont change anything.

>>714166348
MoistCritical is a fucking faggot for not covering this earlier when it could've used the steam to push into a snowball

Backboneless sack of shit.

>tfw with every day we go above the minimum daily required amount, the future daily required amount decreases further
love to see it

sieg

>>714166069
ECI is not like american petitions lol

>>714166328
then why there's a button saying sign u the PETITION
just asking, still fuck furfaggots, ferret and jewish corpos and I amde my whole family to sign up

>>714165346
People would like those games even more if they were able to reasonably unlock all of the things in those games with wasting thousands of dollars or thousands of hours of their lives.

>>714166389
>either everything is solved or nothing is, there can not be relative improvement
Lolbert, go to bed.

>>714166432
The day it no longer says we're behind schedule will be a great day.

Is this actually going to squeek past the goal, at the last minute, because Ross did basically a big final plea at the last possible second and got a bunch of big youtubers to rally to his cause (and shit all over that faggot Maldavius)?

>>714166442
Noice

>>714166212
I do, and I'm not even eurotoid.

>>714166158
SKG is stopping that from happening.

>>714166462
>saying sign u the PETITION
>just asking
Because a petition is a collection of signatures. It's correct in the sense that ECIs take the form of petitions, but are legally different.

>>714164562
Yotobi for some reason had a santification process, but he is flawed too.
He is secretly very greedy, and if he does not get a lot of money for just mentioning this, he will never do it.

>>714166286
>>714166276
what did it say before? I'm not an euromutt

>>714166491
it was always going to get a final push at the end, but all the drama boosted it five fold

>>714166368
You can still harm yourself with that shit.

The solution? Don't buy it. Instead of crying out for regulation that doesn't do shit to improve your life.

Like you said IT'S YOUR CHOICE not the state choice.

>>714166158
Yes, except if you decide to take up the mantle and support it yourself and others, they'll sue you into oblivion because fuck you, you own nothing.

>>714164564
These are code monkeys, nothing important. Also they are mislead.

>>714166334
Correct, and since there's no goodwill, then the law will force them to be good samaritans.

>>714166397
Nah, кaни-pedonigger is not paid corposhill. Just regular pedoanon.

>>714166574
It updates in real time as time passes and signatures accumulate. Currently it's 9983.

>>714166338

>>714166387
>Corporations using materials that inevitably give people cancer or obesity? Government should step in.
A lot of stuff still give you cancer btw, and the cancer stuff is monopolized with the state profiting off it.

>>714166617
>Man, I could go for a coke, it's hot out and I feel like something sweet
>hey, wait, this soft drink could literally kill me by giving me cancer if I drank ONE can, that's not right!
versus
>Hey, this soft drink may be unhealthy, but I can afford to drink it in moderation because of safety regulations that outlaw carcinogenic chemicals

once this passes i hope to god people harass the fuck out piratesoftware and chet faliszek and rub their noses in it for the rest of their days

>>714165720
Not necessarily, these kind of games are usually still playable solo. If you remove the matchmaking server from the equation all they would need to do is to add a simple menu prompt that lets the players enter the IP address of a host lobby directly.

>>714166426
He actually apologized. He said he isn't a real gamer anymore and has been mostly outside touching grass. He immediately made a video once he heard the recent news.

>from 46% to 71% in 1 week with no signs of slowing down

>>714166471
after you statist parasite, buy a chicken constume

>>714166728
I'm way ahead of you

It's so fucking funny. If Pirate Software had ignored it instead of actively shitting on it, it probably wouldn't have passed. Now everyone is making videos dunking on him and signing the initiative out of spite.

>>714166779
>statist
Lmao
>constume
Learn English first.

>>714166617
what if I vote out of spite?
State exists to serve me, if they don't, I firebomb their ass

did not know cute girls dressed up in funny costumes are CHILDREN FUCKING, stay obsessed, i will keep pirating everything and never paying for games like some fucking loser~

Why are the shills against this movement so deranged?

>>714166714
Drink water, fatfuck, or drink something else.

>>714166836
They're bots, check the filename, it's an automated text string. There's someone at work behind that.

>>714166706
This my belief on what a government should for internal affairs. This doesn't happen in reality with how big the Lobbying industry is. If the government (in the West) truly cared for its people, it would come to the conclusion that the formation of families is much more important than individual rights and kicked women out of the government and most of the workforce.

But that's a discussion most people aren't going to accept.

>>714166819
>State exists to serve me, if they don't, I firebomb their ass
You won't do shit and will die in the next war like the loser you are anyways.

Are we pretending online petitions matter now

>>714166836
Its bots, and they are afraid that society is pushing back against the jews

>>714166908
>will die in the next war like the loser you are anyways.
Sasha you're about to get drafted you need to be careful saying shit like this.

>>714164940
yeah, anyone claiming otherwise has no clue or is arguing in bad faith.>>714164780
>Most games don't allow community servers.
bro, you're almost there

>>714166908
trust me, I will

>>714166842
point is still there
you can also still overdose water and die. Should goverment ban water then?

>activism thread
Stop killing threads.

POST YOUR "WE ARE WINNING FACE"

>>714164850
wat? he did nothing
>a youtube comment (not even a pinned one on his latest video but the community tab lmao)
that might actually be less than nothing

>>714166289
Who's the they? Oh AAA slop companies? I'm shook

>>714166948
They always did, it's just amerimutts who pretend that they're powerless despite claiming to be a "democracy"

>>714166948
are you pretending to understand how the EU works?

>>714166878
What makes you think a power system with a monopoly on violence can do your bidding and ignore others like the corporations? The state only cares about power and influence.

>>714166638
if you decide to profit off an IP you don't own you mean?
if you want to 'take up the mantle', approach the publisher and arrange to buy the IP, maybe you can even pay the devs to whip you up a dedicated server you can distribute.
oh, but you wanted to get millions of dollars worth of property for free because you paid $60? too bad.

>>714166819
State exists to create order
Voting exists to placate plebs

"Fairness" does not exist, only outcomes.

>>714166984

>>714167005
He made it and the signatures literally tripled in tempo. He's the first big European to do this.

>>714166836
It's jewish developers/publishers who are afraid that they might lose a tiny bit of profit, so they use bots and hired indians to attempt to stop it.

>>714158775 (OP)
based
>>714158916
based
>>714158986
based


also (me) literally based because I signed this petition a while ago

ross has always been the hero we need, mold be with him

>>714164564
>”Dev here, we don’t actually write any of code we just download libraries. On an unrelated note, I heartbroken about the mass layoffs hitting our industry”

>>714163549
you are either disingenuous or seriously retarded.

>>714164940
Devs like this are going to help us win.

>>714166984

>>714166948
Not a petition; an initiative. The EU parliament will be legally obligated to discuss it if it reaches it's goal.

>>714166975
You can't overdose on water, it's easier to overdose on garbage and eu doesn't stop it. And desu don't need it.

>the lolbertarian shill force follows the CP posting
I'm nooooticing.

>>714166189
>Your motives, what you're trying to achieve literally doesn't matter to anybody.
Good to know 700k people in the EU do not matter to anybody

>>714166948
>Are we pretending online petitions matter now
These kinds of things literally do matter in EU. They are forced to actively take a look at it and discuss it, if it reaches the threshold.

It's funny how smug you are, while simultaneously being completely uneducated and unaware.

>>714163549
Toys R' Us went out of business by the way.

>>714163017
Devious plan, it might just work. Add a roach on top of it too.

>>714166984
Not yet, but soon.

>>714166984

>>714166212
>Make it as Viral as Kony 2012.
what a good parallel to draw. another nothingburger grift with feel-good messaging that "nobody in their right mind could oppose"

>>714167154
>You can't overdose on water
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
Happens to old people most of the time, specifically the senile.

Can someone tell me if the process allow for people to inflate the numbers? It would be kinda sad if a good portions of the votes get discarded for that.

>>714167112
I support SKG because it will btfo s.o.ydevs

>>714164804
>not realistic. say Concord was announced to run for 15 years, billion dollar sensation it was slated to be. now what? would Sony be legally bound to keep it running at a loss?
announce support for 5 years. if the game turns out to be popular extend the support another 5 years and so on.

>line is still trending upwards
Doubter bros LOST

>>714167204
>grift
explain what you think the grift here is?

>musk retweeted

>>714167154
my grandpa died from water overdose
once your internal organs start to fail, your body can't process water like it used to and retains it inside, until it explodes and kills you.

>>714166069
while you where counting coins I studied the blade. while you where betraying your mortal soul I studied the blade.

>>714167241
You need to send your actual ID and face to vote so I doubt it

>>714167297
>literally who

>>714167287
You have to check daily change anon, that line will always trend upwards. But we literally recovered the tempo from 2 days ago.

>>714167238
Oh my god, quick regulate water so this tiny minority of cases can't happen!

>>714167241
~10% or more of the votes will be invalid, probably, so we must keep gathering signatures even after we hit 1 million.

>>714158775 (OP)
done. i supported it.

>>714166948
Not a petition
>>714166143
It could restore the practice of dedicated and community run servers for games after a publisher decides to cut support for the game.
>>714165750
>MMOs are a lost cause.
Depends if the point about microtransactions of digital goods in MMOs gets brought up. I mean once a videogame publisher kills an MMO what happens to any microtransactions you bought of digital items like skins ingame or other similar shit. Those digiral good were not bought as a subscribtion, you bought them as a digital good.

>>714166248
Did he win?? I hope to God he did

>>714167297
proof? he is a second class hero

Honestly, if we manage to push over 800k before the end of the week, this shit is more or less in the bag, isn't it?

I think even if everything slows to a crawl, the final "THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE" day is going to net us 100k+.

>>714164564
Nothing's stopping them from just releasing an offline patch or just distributing server binaries without source code and telling the community to figure it out themselves.

>>714167187
that pic proves god is not real, or that he is missing, or that he is a fucking sadist

>Grummz does something useful for once in his life

>>714167319
Also old people get propagandised by health magazines to overdrink

>>714167326
>You need to send your actual ID and face to vote so I doubt it
False. Only the ID.

>>714167326
>You need to send your actual ID and face to vote so I doubt it
I see people regularly saying that you need these things to sign it, but I signed it without any of those things. Is it different from country to country or something?

>>714167164
Did it matter?
Tell me, what propelled the number up, you didn't think it was the goal of the initiative, right?
No, it was because of drama from a NPD streamer, Which I might add, wasn't even related to the Initiative itself.

PirateSoftware came, killed the movement with a single video, and that's evidence that people don't care about your goal.
It took a fucking Mana gem, in a WOW raid, to explode this whole thing before people went, I'm going to sign it to spite him.

That's how much of a joke banking on the good will of people is.

tldr: The nobility of your goals are irrelevant, be big, be popular, that's all that matters.

>>714167352
FREN!

>>714167241
They WILL reduce the final countdown via removing fake votes. Which is why its always a good idea to surpass the goal by a good margin.

>>714167319
He would have died from regulated coke too, where the fuck is this discussion going?

>>714166678
the image is the wrong way friend

>>714167050
You misunderstand me. I specified what I believe the role of the government should be. Not what it currently is.

>>714167154
>You can't overdose on water
water intoxication exist. Just liek you can also overdose oxygen from hyperventilating you retard
>it's easier to voerdose on garbage
and te point is, eu prohibits a single dose of shit that directly charm you. They cannot prevent you, limit you etc. from overdosing shit or eating shit you're allergic to while you knowingly eat it. Simply because that would impede your FREEDOm you retard. Unless you want goverment to ltierally babysit you 24/7
you have freedom of choice. It's your freedom and your choice that you overdose and die doing stupid things

>>714167516
Well your beliefs are shit.

>>714158775 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/73l0tz.mp4

>blink
>1000 more signatures
doomers in fucking shambles

>>714167410
elon musk is following that fat booger?

>>714167526
>It's your freedom and your choice that
I get stabbed by a muslim
>gobberman bad
I'd rather not

>>714167334
That's what you're arguing for when you say you should remove soda from sale because it has sugar by the way.
>>714167483
>where the fuck is this discussion going?
That allowing products to be safe even if they're not healthy allows for people to enjoy them in moderation. I don't think we should ban alcohol because someone went into an ethylic coma, but we should regulate it so that as little people as possible go into one.

>>714167429
>PirateSoftware came, killed the movement with a single video, and that's evidence that people don't care about your goal.
Now PirateSoftware ruined his own reputation, doubled down on SKG when Ross made his video because he doesn't know when to let go and SKG is riding forth once again.
EU citizen's initiative was stuck at ~450k signatures before Ross' video. Now it's at ~710k.

>>714167510

>>714165050
Ignoring the fact that regulations like these are not retroactive
Which indie games are you talking about? Please feel free to be as specific as you want.

>>714162970
as opposed to now?

it cant possibly be cheaper to have centralized servers. people are literally begging for the right to shoulder 100% of the cost of hosting servers. are devs retarded?
>IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY
you have to contrive it specifically not to work that way

>>714167187
Funny image to bring up
We've reached the moment where Mr Satan is asking people for energy

Told ya it was a coverage problem.
Wait for us bros

>>714167592
These threads have genuinely more happening energy than when the US bombed Iran last week.

>>714164385
Yeah it's pretty admirable how well he held out for himself after being shat on for saying nigger once. He also taught himself how to draw too so there's no excuse for anyone itt who wants to be a gamedev to not be like pewdiepie

Even if the EU passes such a law, Trump would only have to mention tariffs to make them drop it, just like he did with Canada.

SHAME.
SHAME.
SHAME.

i'm still in doubt

i think this will fizzle out at ~800k, you can't keep this up for the whole month, it's just the sad reality

>>714167691
Who the fuck covered it? I've been completely disconnected from Italian internet for the last 7 years or so.

Finland has reached 0.5% signatures/capita now meaning 1 finn out of 200 have signed it.

>>714167717
those are fake countries

>>714167716
>Daddy Trump will save the AAA devs!
lol
lmao, even

>>714167526
And my point is you can still harm yourself under regulation, and the best form of safety from marketing dangers is a well educated customer base.
>>714167623
The thing is what something is labeled safe or not goes according to your judgement. For me sugar is not safe, aore effective regulation would be banning it, but we can't ban everything just because it's not safe.

>>714167721
This, we lost. Let's go home and lpay some vidya alright?

>>714158775 (OP)
I want slop buyers to suffer so I'm not signing shit
>B-B-BUT
don't care lol

>>714167716
What does Trump care about video games in the EU's internal market? He hates silicon valley, if anything he'll support this.

>>714161915
Explain how this gives up my rights or liberties, when in fact, it is restoring them so I can use and play the thing I paid for

>>714167410
>>714167610
Musk retweeted this? Why? There's no way he supports this right?

>>714167717
>Italy still bottom of per capita
Come on you pastaniggers, at least get your threshold to join the bronze border club.

>>714167410
>elon sending his army of NPC retards
yeah we got this

>>714167410
This would be cool if Elon’s fanbase didn’t consist of a bunch of jeets. He’s utterly hated in the EU

>>714167717
isnt luxumberg the eu's child eating capitol of the world? or was that another province

>>714166984

I dusted off my Italian passport for this one. I haven't used it for anything else and haven't even visited Europe yet.
Love, an Australian.

>>714167781
>The thing is what something is labeled safe or not goes according to your judgement
That's why we have established a set of legal frameworks that define what safe is. And how we can say that water based paint is inherently safer than lead based paint.

>>714167623
it's funny how these peopel oppose big corpos and goverment yet they expect a fucking goverment to constantly watch you and limit what things you can buy and eat/drink in what quantities
like, what the fuck, overment cannot prevent you from being a mongoloid retard if you wish to be one. I think US tried that with sillent castration of loq iq people and outrage from it was colossal

>>714167410
>musk
>grummz

ELON HAS JOINED THE BATTLE ON ROSS'S SIDE

WE WON

>>714167794
>He hates silicon valley
Yeah, that's why he just made Canada retract their digital tax.

>>714167636
Yeah, which is the point, Ross was naive and thought that the movement would be able to propel itself from how "right" the cause was, when what he really needed to do was start campaigning for visibility instead of substance.

The goals didn't matter at all, the Drama did, because they generated visibility.

Ross tried to run this from the bottom up, from Principle of the Cause > to Awareness > to Action
but that doesn't work, he needed to go from top to bottom
Spectacle so you get views > to Clicks which is engagement > to Alignment, an Us against Them mentality > then maybe you could talk about how noble and virtuous your cause is.

HERE'S SOMETHING MORE YOU CAN DO TO HELP

Italy is the best proof of it, lots of europeans either can't or just don't want to speak english. Seek out content in your language on youtube or whatever and leave a like and comment, to boost it in the algo so that we reach the non-english speakers.

Is it me or does the daily signature tracker shit itself when there is an influx of sigs?

>>714167912
You fail to understand how Donny works. He hates silicon valley, but he hates California more.

>>714167674
Jewish devs and publishers don't like private servers because:

1) They can't permanently ban "naughty" people from their game if they can just move to a different server
2) They will sell less copies of their game if pirates can play online on private servers
3) They will sell less expansions/DLCs if pirates can get them for free on private server
4) They will sell less skins if pirates can get them for free on private server

All of these are the exact same reason why jewish devs and publishers also don't like modding.

>>714167792
>t. american that wouldn't have been allowed to sign an EU Initiative anyway

>>714166984

>>714161915
I have never met a libertarian that was into tech that didn't clap every time the EU or any government body shat on Apple or Microsoft.

>the PirateSoftware drama is what's giving this campaign the final push it needs to succeed
Is he pulling a fucking Lelouch?

>"help! help! cockroaches have infested my live service house! they're killing it!"
>"oh no, what will we do as a community?"
>"I know. Let's fill your house with centipedes! that will take care of those roaches!"
this is your solution

>>714161915
>you need to let corporations do whatever they want or your taking away our rights
until the governments of the world allow me to trade in gold and silver again for all purchases and give every oz it stole from us in the 30s there is no such thing as government. It's just another corporate enterprise exploiting us. therefore, I dont care what the laws actually say, I will vote in the ones that damage my enemies just like every corporation is doing.

>>714167717
The thresholds are different (I don't know why). To see how virtuous countries are, sort by signatures per capita.

>>714158775 (OP)
>support the initiative
>paranoid the petition gets hacked in some way incase EU has shitty server security
>my info will be public and since it will get at most 1m signatures its easy to trace it back to me
>know i'll get spear fished or hunted down by the sharty or some schizo group just incase they are against this because of "le ebin trolling"
I blame my autism for me thinking two steps ahead to not make me sign, so I might hold off from now and just spread the word. Maybe if its doing bad like when we're 950k/1m on the last day then I might sign it.

>>714167869
Someone needs to update that 'toss edit to include Musk.

>>714167970
Wrong consoomer-sama
Stop culturally appropriating our t: btw

>>714168008
>aislop
>lolbert all or nothing nonsense
Saar

>>714167862
Legal framework that inflate market prices most of the time and despite how safe it's labeled it is not safe at all.

we're going full circle all day over this

>>714162419
Finnbro, it's not partaking in the system. It's using the system to furher your goals. You can do that even without agreeing with it
t. doesn't like EU after Lisbon

>>714166836
It's Indians

>>714167929
Great idea. (you) for visibility.

>>714167781
there's a lot of tv ads, ifnormation from your lcoal doctor, even desctription on the package etc. If someone still decides to drink cola 24/7 for rets of hsi life, it's his freedom to do and his choice. He was both warned and informed. The education is here since it gets hammered into you since elementary school. Still despite this, you have 12y old shitbags drinking alkohol and smoking cigaretes to look cool and adult
If someone decides to be a trashcan, no amount of information campaigns will save him until he feels the consequences of his action himself. We have photos of lung cancer on cigarete boxes for decades now. And people still smoke

>>714168006
no, but he is an obvious liar and didn't misunderstand anything. all of his body language shown in ross's take down shows PS is making ,unbeknownst to moss's autism, the tells of a liar.

>>714167717
These are irrelevant countries, you have a better chance of getting the other countries to 180% to cover for their slack.

Like literally, these are poor fags who don't even have money for food let alone thing about campaigning for videogames to not get shut down.

>>714168031
>>paranoid the petition gets hacked in some way incase EU has shitty server security
There's been 115 petitions and not one has been hacked, also the way eID works now makes it impossible to get your data, since it handshakes with your digital identity provider and doesn't internally store your info.

It's amazing how 300'000 people came together as a big "Fuck You" to a single arrogant dude / due to its arrogance.

>>714158916
>>714158986
wtf I like pewdiepie now?

>>714168031
Some retarded bureaucrat can already steal your ID any moment. The EUCI is not going to make your life less sexure.

>>714168006
what did lelouch do and who is he

>>714168057
>all or nothing
>paying the masses with real money or monopoly money is all or nothing
(((you)))

>ross wants to start a social media campaign on the day the news cycle is gonna be dominated by xbox layoffs and closures

not sure that's a good idea

>>714167051
If you think its so I can profit off of someone else's IP you've already missed the point. If you lack the background knowledge to understand where I'm coming from with that I'm not going to waste the time and effort explaining it to you.

>>714167691
Together EU bros! We will save vidya!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPTCq3LiZSE

>>714168061
>despite how safe it's labeled it is not safe at all.
Kek you're such a retard. Inhaling cement dust isn't healthy, and neither is inhaling asbestos, which is why we should legalize asbestos again, since it's cheaper!

>>714168008
If that makes you feel better i am against a single centralized currency as well. But i understand you point.

>>714166338
Love you cunt

>>714167869
An enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine

>>714168031
>>714168031
You are signing an EU governance initiative on an EU governance site who ALREADY HAS YOUR EXACT DATA you absolute bellend. This is just an authentication that you are an EU citizen.

>>714167051
>>714168202
No one should pay a fucking cent for an IP older than 28 years. Death to mark twain. Twice.

>>714167803
if italy keeps up the signature rate they currently have they can reach nearly 100k in a week

>>714167410
>Musk joined
It's fucking over he's going to ruin everything, can this fraudulent nigger stay out of games? This isn't something he can just buy.

Burger here. Finally read up on all this shit. Proud of you guys. I obviously can't sign, but is there any way I can help?

>>714166338
Congrats on finally passing your threshold.

>>714168056
>Stop culturally appropriating our t: btw
No.

>>714167443
yup. we're together in this bitch.

>>714167927
>SKG almost failed cause Ross is too good for this retarded world
I'm happy we have a chance, but the fact it took Drama Alert/TMZ bullshit to save it at all is an indictment that humanity is fucked.

>>714168006
Lelouch was a high IQ gigachad so no. PS is a retard, legit retard.

>>714168078
The general market system and the world itself is still predatory no matter what humans do. We're drifting away so much from the main point which is balancing freedom vs control.

>>714168073
changs are too expensive for shilling tencent ideals these days?

>>714168316
It's extremely bipartisan anon. We have the gamingcirclejerk trannies and Elon batting for the same thing. We are literally united against a furry.

>>714166158
Might stop working WHEN?
If you buy into ANY other service, you're notified in a clear and understandable way when the service will end.
>Public transport tickets and passes have expiration dates on them.
>Amusement park tickets are valid for the day unless stated otherwise.
and since you faggots love food analogies...
>Table reservations last until a specified time, usually 2 hours

>>714168031
I was like you and didn't sign it for a long time, but then I read all the "what do you do with my data?" pages and it seems pretty fucking secure, so I ended up signing it yesterday. Even if it does get leaked, you can just report any site/place where the leaked information is hosted by doing a GDPR request and it will get removed or the EU government will get involved with getting it removed.

>>714168374
>the desire for piratesoftware to rope has united all political sides harder than Israel

>>714168031
not how it works, the only data they could possibly get is your name

>>714168284
If the two World Wars have shown us anything, it's that Italy joining your side is highly detrimental.

>>714168356
dumbest timeline
>>714168374
must is just fishing for gamer cred, he doesn't care

>>714167726
>Who the fuck covered it?
A couple of websites and some small YTers
>I've been completely disconnected from Italian internet for the last 7 years or so.
You did good

>>714167927
The drama is what KILLED the movement in the first place, the drama queen being dethroned is what revived it
Yes, all of this caused spectacle, marketing and more drama in the process, but that's a little bit of extra support
PirateSoftware himself had an image powered almost entirely by marketing (carefully selected Youtube shorts) which eventually shattered because he's a jerk pretending to be smarter than everybody and big-name Youtubers found out.

>Spectacle so you get views > to Clicks which is engagement > to Alignment, an Us against Them mentality > then maybe you could talk about how noble and virtuous your cause is
I thought he already did this with what initial videos he made on SKG. He doesn't have to repeat this cycle like he's a propaganda bureau, when he's reported all SKG news and there aren't any more news he's done.

>>714168007
>centipedes
They're fucking cool and cute, and they don't give a fuck about humans. I would rather live with a giant roaming centi in my house that with roaches.

>>714158775 (OP)
I hope it succeeds just to laugh at it when it fails to do anything
>Lawmaker investigates into it
>EA says "yeah it's our IP, we shut it down"
>Lawmaker moves on

>>714168183
google code geass ending

>>714168031
the government and by extension the EU already has all your data stored
how else do you think they know youre a citizen?

>>714168331
1) Keep SKG threads bumped.
2) Boost SKG content on other sites.
3) Send thoughts and prayers.

>>714167410
I hate to as for opinion of Mark Kern, but does he actually support this? Because that's a real funny position for a literal blizzard exec, but I suppose he did get his efame trying to appeal to the more popular side
I actually kinda have to respect Maldy Fagtree for being so self destructively up his own ass, a man of his own principles

>>714168434
the west hates liars. Jews are just really good ones

>>714168331
>but is there any way I can help?
Spread the word wherever you go and to whoever you can, burgerbro.

>>714166984

>>714163261
That wouldn't be enough. There needs to be at least 1.2M signatures.

>>714167803
Over 60% of Italians don't speak English at all and know less English than an average weeb knows Japanese. At best they just know how to say "fuck", "dick", "pussy", "there", "yes", "no". Which is enough for having sex with tourists.

>>714168443
>must is just fishing for gamer cred, he doesn't care
It doesn't matter.

>>714168331
1) spam threads
2) argue with people
3) don't play vidja

>>714168485
EU has many many problems but they have a fantastic track record when it comes to consumer rights

>>714167638
Most anons are too young to know this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s

>>714166984

>>714158986
wait I thought all EU citizens could vote regardless of where they reside

>>714168331
Get people you know in the EU and UK to sign, or spread the word to other people in the US who might know Europeans so they can link them

another eceleb has joined

>>714168658
Not all, but most can.

>>714168331
I don't think so, talking about it to EU friends if you got any if anything.

>>714168518
>Because that's a real funny position for a literal blizzard exec
The last time he worked at Blizzard was 20 years ago when they were happy to fully support things like full modding in WC3.

>>714168658
They can, Pewds is just ESL

>>714168694
Isn't he a mick? He's gonna make a video shilling it I hope.

>>714168694
They really need to bring back gifting people gold. This is all just too wholesome.

>>714168694
Why don't these youtubers make actual videos about it instead of just making community posts or comments?

>>714168485
>"Sir, a lot of our taxpayers asked to look into ToS of your products, let's look closer."
>"uuuugh... can we NOT do that?"

Ok i'm libertarian but you convinced me, if the world is a race for power might as well race with the others, the existence of the state is still a threat that i can still counter with decentralized initiatives, and videogames regulation won't affect me too much.

Where should i put my signature? i am eu btw.

>>714168454
The movement was already dying and slowing down before the drama, it was never going to get anywhere because Ross wasn't the spearhead he needed to be.
All political movements have a Guy with a Face on their campaign for a reason.

He wanted to be on the semi backline to gently nudge it, but that doesn't work.

Thor didn't "kill" SKG, but rather he became the FACE of the ANTI SKG movement, and since Pirate Software guy was a natural narcissist, he conjured up a group of gullible people around him naturally.

He's basically what Ross needed to become, a visible, loud noise making, Figurehead of Campaign to Unite the scattered people into a group.

I cannot stress enough how CRUCIAL it is to any movement to have a FIGUREHEAD.
People need to rally under someone.

>>714168835
Too scared to lose sponsorships.

>>714168835
It's faster and I assume the videos will come when the campaign needs a final push. These guys aren't dumb.

>>714168835
i assume they have videos on the way, i think they just made initial comments to keep the ball rolling

>>714168835
That's what I'm saying. If they actually gave a shit they'd sit down and make a 5 minute video.

>>714168863
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

>>714168863
>Where should i put my signature? i am eu btw.
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
Pick your country and do what it asks to sign.

>>714168879
Which is funny, because in a way, Thor did Ross's job for him.

You can have someone to rally around, or someone to rally against.

>>714168863
>if the world is a race

>>714168863
>Where should i put my signature? i am eu btw.
The link is in the fucking OP dumbo

>>714168835
A lot fo youtubers rely on publishers paying them to promote videogames. So a lot of ''gaming'' youtubers will keep their mouth shut since talking about this can cost them their job.

You guys need to brace for the coming days. The pushback will get a LOT stronger, very soon.

>>714168643
This song and music video are good for the soul

>>714168879
I don't think most people who signed the petition care about it, it just became an avenue of attack against Pirate.

>>714169018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NerBjuTAk

>>714168518
He hasn't worked at Blizz for like 20 year and if he still plays WoW he's definitely doing it on private servers

>>714163196
So what tangible steps have you done to get the thing you want? Where's the petition for your perfect solution? Oh, you did fucking nothing?
>If you don't act to make sure the government regulates the way you want, then somebody else will
Damn, looks like that anon was exactly right

>>714168518
Golden era Blizzard devs were kind people. And most of them support the initiative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblBt9XzWoo

Reminder Pirate Software worked at blizzard during the "do you guys not own phones?" era.

>>714168972
>>714168987
signed, although is not in line with my beliefs but whatever...

>>714167407
IF GOD REALZ WHY BAD THINGS (never) HAPPENING

>>714168835
It's too FOTM to justify making a whole video about it.
90% of ecelebs that support this at all are just posturing because it guarantees more positive normie exposure at the moment.

>>714168863
If this is a genuine post, I applaud your honesty and open-mindedness anon.

It's like building a house. Some people want the house built immediately and can't realize that it's often built brick-by-brick.
We're trying to place down the first brick, however infignificant, and some will shout
>IT'S JUST A TOY, WHO CARES
I don't quite agree but from a certain view, I guess it is a toy. However, a foundation must be laid before you can contrust a house and one should start with the easiest of tasks.

>>714169246
>FOTM
Well this is literally the last month to get the votes for the initiative. Someone would say this is the most important month.

>>714169071
By who?
The most clever way for them would be is to accept with suprised faces like "oh golly gee, who would ever thought about that? it's genious!"

>>714169338
It's crazy how people will write shit like this out and then wonder why everyone is calling this "movement" reddit.

>>714167407

>>714168139
>>714168168
>>714168248
>>714168418
>>714168439
I see then. Seeing how secure it is makes me consider voting later today when the temperature goes down. Thanks anons.

>>714169407
Kill yourself.

>>714169338
I truly signed it i also have the receipt.

At this point idc, if state laws become heavy i can always go full agorism.

Thanks to you.

>>714169351
Exactly it's not going to matter long term. Why put the effort into a video when you can already pull all the love you 3000ers with just a tweet.

>>714168863
>>714169228
based anon making personal concessions for the greater good

if it does turn out to cause issues, you at least have the moral high ground to say you told us so. But I think it's way more likely that nothing comes of this at all, that it kinda helps consumers but corporations end up watering it down anyways, or that it does what we want, then it actually going too far or backfiring: That's the least likely outcome IMO

>>714169338
>brick-by-brick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_33ItUC9k

>>714169382
You know by whom you fuckign retard don't pretend.

IGN, PC Gamer, and Machinima are already working on their hate pieces that will shut down this initaitive for good.

You've been warned.

>>714167929
I've seen some work being put by spanish youtubers

>>714169407
>why everyone is calling this "movement" reddit
Because making strawmans, hasty generalizations and guilt by association fallacies are much more mature right?
Feel free to explain your stance anon.

>>714169512
well since it's not a dangerous regulation i can close an eye, yes.

>>714169442
Does your internet turn off when it's too hot?

>>714169512
Remember that 1 million signatures is where it begins. They will likely throw out some signatures, so it's important to keep signing past 1M

>Pewdiepie supports the movement
It's over for the ferret fucker

>>714169554
>already working on their hate pieces
2 more weeks?

>>714168863
wtf you weren't a concern troll?

>>714169407
Do you want to look good or have rights.
You should dress up your own corpse your reactionary worm.

>>714169584
Never, only when the power goes out. I live in the swamp.

>>714169554
game "journalists" are a laughing stock. nobody cares what those retards say

>>714169561
My stance is if you want people to stop calling you redditors stop acting like literal redditors. At least not publicly on the anti-reddit website.

>>714169613
no, i truly was attacking out of political belief, i am right-wing libertarian and i think we should be more independent from corpos and state

>>714168635
>fantastic track record when it comes to consumer rights
"better than nothing" is hardly fantastic

>>714169554
Videogame jurnos are irrelevant.

>>714169554
>IGN, PC Gamer, and Machinima
>normie journos no one gives a single fuck about after their shameless asslicking for DEY
Yeah, dude, we scared shitless.

>>714169721
surely part of being a libertarian is "survival of the fittest", if you buy FOTM corpo slop you aren't fit to survive and the state shouldn't protect you from that

>>714162419
pretty much
EU needs to fall so Europe can be free and white again
>t. CzechGOD

>>714169715
You care about optics more than substance, you're literally a redditor at core.

You don't care about what 4chan stands for, you care about belonging to a group, but you want to be "cool" and "alt".

You're cringe, and worthless.

>>714168694
kek
please make a thread when dunkey or penguinz0 supports it too

>>714169715
Please define what makes something or anything "reddit" and feel free to be as precise as you want.

>>714167831
What?

>>714169821
No one protects better than youself anon.

Btw, i'm not the only libertarian here so you shall expect the next thread raided as well, just with me less. But still, i hope this initiative doesn't backfire and harms big publishers.

>>714169932
Ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sJpTCitKqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTp4Am51i0

>>714169932
Charlie was the first one to make a video.

>>714169821
>FOTM corpo slop
Think about the future though. If devs and publishers have their ways then 9/10 games will become online-only and/or streamed-only and pretty much all games will become "lost media" once the devs decide to turn them off. In a future like that even games that aren't just FOTM will practically cease to exist.

Having some kind of laws and regulations go into place now, will probably prevent a dystopian future for video games like I just described.

>>714169921
I don't care at all, this whole issue doesn't effect my life in any way.
If you feel comfortable talking like a fag and being called a redditor in every thread then go for it man. It honestly makes the whole thing more fun for me.

Why hasn't Laura Fryer supported the initiative yet? Feels odd.

>>714164804
>I WANT people to steal from me
I'm just curious what kind of mental illness made you type that out?

What's wrong with reddit?

>>714169932
Mr Penguin literally started the counter attack against PirateNig

>>714170091
>Having some kind of laws and regulations go into place now, will probably prevent a dystopian future for video games like I just described.
Or opening the doors for big groups to make laws for themselves and accellerate dystopia. This is why i always tell people to make our own stuff, even if it sucks it's preferable.

>>714165184
You just posted the reason why. It could only be more clear if he was rubbing his hands about cheating the goyim

>>714168835
>time required to make a comment: a few minutes
>time required to make a video: over an hour
Man I wonder why.
They might make one tomorrow when the Twitter push happens, or the day after that. Or maybe in the last week for the final push. It doesn't really matter.

>>714169821
The reason Libertarianism failed people is corpo's already solved the game by joining together for their own intrest and subjugate everyone else at the bottom.

"Survival of the fittest" sounds fair until the competitors on top realize it's easier to stop competing each other at all and focus on controlling everone else lower in the food chain.

can someone tell me the amount of today's signatures? it stopped working for me

>>714170293
Damn I guess this town's only big enough for one long hair baritone faggot

>>714166158
When the software stops running, then some users often make their own unofficial patches to make it running again.
The whole point of SKG is that there should be a framework that could allow users themselves to keep the service alive if they wanted, through private servers for example.

>>714170178
You don’t care, yet you’re still here replying like a dog that got smacked and now insists it meant to bark all along.
You lost the argument and now you’re performing indifference for an audience that isn’t clapping.

>It’s more fun for me
No, it isn’t. You got exposed as a tone-obsessed midwit who mistakes groupthink for identity.

You’re not just wrong, you’re literally nothing, and you know it. Your life proves it more than I ever could.

>>714170351
and this is related to video game publishers how?

>>714170405
Currently 714,364. That makes for about 4,788 per hour since OP posted the thread.

>>714170351
Not to mention that they also join with the government through lobbying.
So people who are telling themselves there's a free market are fighting a literal robber-baron Trust with help from the Government who give them infinite resources to never face consequences with the excuse they're 'Saving American Businesses'.

>>714161915
pro corporation shills =/= libertarians

>>714167717
how do you see that?

>>714170351
This. Libertarianism and deregulation is exactly what turned America into a corporate shithole.

>>714166158
>victim blaming

>>714169891
Vole, musíš na to jak za totáče, pojebat systém jeho mechanismama zevnitř, využít a zneužít toho, na čem to stojí
Ať se kokoti v EU parlamentu zabývaj hrama a legislativou kolem nich, je to win-win situace. Když nic, tak nadělají míň škod, když se budou tímhle zabývat

>>714170526
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/

>>714170440
>You lost the argument
My single argument is you sound like a redditor. And I feel very confident that if we were on any gaming subreddit you would have many upvotes right now.

>>714170539
I absolutely disagree, america is overregulated but not like the eu with public services, it's regulated in favor of corporations.

>>714170448
>How do corporations working together to normalize not owning things you buy related to buying video-games?
I hate Americans.
So. Fucking. Much

>>714170448
Publishers literally save each other's backs to keep from going out of business. Notice when one of them fails, another immediately makes up the difference in stock like what keeps happening with Tencent?

>>714168149
Nothing drives humans like spite

>>714169715
>on the anti-reddit website.
Trying too hard to fit in

>>714170440
>YOU LOST
Literally nobody who feels they 'won' has ever had to say someone else lost.

>>714167717
Where can I see the country breakdowns?

Why are you on the wrong side of history? What drives you to be like this?

>>714170601
thanks!

>>714167410
>it's real
Oh fuck. Is it actually habbening?

>>714170623
>america is overregulated
America is overregulated in ways to fuck you over. Regulation itself isn't bad, regulation applied disproportionally and unfairly is bad.

>>714169979
i mean other than ukraine

>>714170508
Except i support a free market to not let people lobby inside the government, the moment everyone can get inside and ask shit to the state it's where cronyism start fucking everything.

>>714170635
Proof of video game publishers working together to cause whatever harm you're thinking of?

>>714170635
not all of us are this retarded the corporations have just trained the normies well

>>714170601
What's wrong with them?

>>714170817
Neither is deregulation... That is why i don't bail out bankers because they're "too big to fails". Listen to my reasoning sometimes.

>>714170861
Look outside and determine, using your own braincells, what are the industry standard practices. Find correlations between them, make an Excel spreadsheet, and come up with a conclusion on your own about what similarities there are between publishers.

>>714159192
>BlackRock
it's not a government

>>714170723
If I was trying to fit in a reckon I'd just start shilling

>>714161915
>GOVERNMENT REGULATION BAD
>CORPORTAE SUPRESSION AND CONTROL GOOOOOODDD
god i can't believe how cucked your mind can be

>>714170967
>just listen & believe chud
I accept your concession

>>714170612
Obsessing over tone, policing how people sound, jerking off to imaginary crowds, it's all you know how to do.
You have no values. No identity. No spine.
You are unloved, unadmired, and unnoticed, except when you're embarrassing yourself publicly like this.

You will die as you lived, obsessed with optics, terrified of sincerity, and pitied by people who forgot your name mid-sentence.

You're not just worthless, you're the absence of worth.
A hollow little reaction machine built from groupthink, spite, and porn-induced brain damage.

>>714170827
By American standards that makes you a dirty socialist. How DARE you tell corpo's how to spend their money.

Part of the "free market" is the freedom to give thousands of dollars to politicians and lawmakers. You aren't a commie are you?

>>714170971
Chances are it is involved with the government like any other big player

>>714170971
La Li Lu Le Lo.

>>714171002
more like
>think for yourself retard

>>714170927
banks are too big to fail has nothing to do with regulations or what american government believes is fiscally responsible or in the best interest of the country. it's entirely a sloppy silk screen to protect ultra rich jews from a bear market or worse. It's smoke and mirrors for them to gaslight the dumbest lead infused public and negros

It's over...
We're ngmi.....

>>714170827
>Except i support a free market
You don't got a free market. There is no free market when your "Market" looks like this.

This is identical to how Kings would divide countries up by lords because you are a Subject in this system.

>>714171012
>>714171012
>By American standards that makes you a dirty socialist. How DARE you tell corpo's how to spend their money.
Being hate by everyone is part of being a libertarian, but at least i get free nukes and no moralfaggotry.

>>714171068
>it's real in my mind
sure is

>>714170927
>Neither is deregulation..
Depends on the regulation, again regulation made to fuck you over is bad.

>>714171084
>>714171129
i could reply to you guys but i am fucking done and consumed, you also got my signature you lucky bastards. Have a nice day.

>>714171182
lern 2 reed

>2 hours ago we just reached 700k
>already at 715.000
YOU GOT BOOST POWEEEERR

>>714170914
>10k signatures in 24h
The Roman SOVL has woken up

>>714171129
>There is no free market when your "Market" looks like this.
95% of the games I buy don't come from any of those people.
There are plenty of games not made by the big shitty companies that everyone knows are big shitty companies.

>>714171323
Italian youtuber mentioned SKG?

>>714171084
the banking system is very regulated btw, stuff that cause financial problems as well

>>714167369
>after a publisher decides to cut support for the game.
Thats where youu lose me. If you wanted to go for the juggular, you'd force devs to allow community servers from launch.
The whole thing with games dying is caused by devs being overprotective. If community servers made a comeback, no game would die ever.

>>714171337
You can't even name 5 games you bought that aren't part of that list

>>714171105
>29k signatures today
>20k above average to make it
>ngmi

>>714158775 (OP)
Still 8 hours to the end of the day, and we got already 30.000 signatures today!

Keep pushing. We need to counter the possible invalid votes too!

>>714171416
>you'd force devs to allow community servers from launch.
We are trying to stop corpos from killing games, we are not actively trying to destroy the industry.

Just don't kill videogames, we are asking for an inch, and you want to go for a mile. We are not the same and you do not belong in this movement. Get out.

>>714171493
>destroy the industry
By reviving a good faith practice?

>>714171493
You're destroying the industry by buying the corpo slop

>>714171323
OY VEY ITS ANOTHER SHACKING OF JUDEA

>>714171479
You are so gay I want to vommit

>>714171429
Do you genuinely think that's difficult?
Even if you only count AAA games and ignore ""indies"" Valve and Nintendo aren't even on that list.

>>714171129
You got a higher res version of that?

>>714171582
Do it then

>>714171409
missing the point. those aren't regulations to protect anybodies interest but the rich.

>no new threads
the initiative failed

>>714171613
I will rather fuck your mom

>>714171556
>By reviving a good faith practice?
>reviving
The only reason the practice existed in the first place is because the internet was underutilized and underdeveloped.

>>714171665
There's still discussion. But I agree, that mods should pin this

>>714171493
>we are not actively trying to destroy the industry
But we should be.

>>714171665
What do you expect from fucking loser throwing a tantrum cause they can't play some ubishit games

>>714171693
if by underutilized and underdeveloped you mean that corpos were not trying to squeeze every shekel out of you, then yeah, i wish we could go back

>>714171479
God you are so wholesome.

When this passes I hope you (and all the other great fellows on 4chan) get a huge shout out!

In the meantime I really would vote more than once if I could, it feels good to be a part of something so important!

>>714165050
If that's the price I will gladly pay it.

>>714171634
Which is why i want to dismantle them

>>714158775 (OP)

Plenty of good mobile games, especially action oriented mobile games, have EOS with no way to play them. So I guess I have to support the "Stop Killing Games" movement.

If this SKG movement works then maybe Square Enix can bring back Nier Reincarnation as a standalone offline game, Nexon can bring back Darkness Rises as an opine game with a finished campaign and Hound 13 can so bring back Hundred Souls as an offline game with a solo campaign.

>>714171795
by underutilized and underdeveloped I mean that the internet literally wasn't being used in games enough to make stuff like this physically possible
the minute internet connectivity became a mainstay in vidja this stuff started up immediately
I'm not saying it's a good thing, but the better practice you mentioned never really existed.

>>714171672

I think Capcom is doing that, fucking your mom, that is.

>>714171914
>>714171914
>>714171914
New thread

>>714171967
Unfortunately this initiative will mainly focus on games you've paid upfront to gain access to play.

>>714171691

>>714171967
>Plenty of good mobile games, especially action oriented mobile games
Good morning saar :)