STOP KILLING GAMES JUST PAST 900K! LESS THAN 100K TO GO! EAT SHIT YOU FERRET FUCKING FAGGOT!

I worked at Blizzard, you know. Eat my entire ass.

>>714322807 (OP)
How about you Stop Botting instead?

>>714322807 (OP)

>>714322718
Don't think about losing your job. Think about video games not having servers!

Thoughts?
https://youtu.be/_by-4Mwv0IM

the irony here is that some of you are celebrating the death of games that got shut down by microsoft while supporting this.

FOR THE LAST TIME I'm not signing it

>>714322807 (OP)
kys

does this mean you cunts will shut up and stop spamming your NOT VIDEO GAMES threads by this time tomorrow?

>>714322807 (OP)
why is e-celeb drama this powerful
disgusting

>>714322807 (OP)
Buy an ad already you spamming faggot.

industry plants ITT are freaking out HARD

>>714323360
>>714323357
>>714323296
>>714323169
>>714322893
you already lost thor

>>714322807 (OP)
they need to make the botting less obvious

>>714323113
People are supporting this to further hurt companies, not because they actually care about the games.

>>714323296
ross won you cock inhaling faggot

>>714322807 (OP)
so what's gonna happen when the EU's response is
>these signatures are suspicious
>no we will not show evidence
>no we will not consider this petition
>have a nice day

It's amusing to see people pissed off at this initiative for no reason. I don't get why you'd get mad at this but people for some reason decided they'd use this one good thing as an excuse to lose their minds for whatever reason.
It always seemed really cringe that people just randomly get set off and completely embarrass themselves and tank their mental health for fucking nothing.

>>714323458
The only people who care about this are retard gacha paypigs who can't control themselves

just out of curiosity

what were the other initiatives that completed the million? and what happened to them?

REMINDER pirate software used that dildo in the image. Shills do not defend a fag with a gaping asshole

>>714323113
What games? If they are not released they aren't games, but just clumps of code

>>714323703
nuh uh were row row fighting the powah

Nepobaby BTFO'd by the community coming together, you love to see it

>>714323632
A few less people simp for the EU so still a positive. Can't believe how many people think the EU with it's unelected nucommunism is a good thing

>>714323663
They are parroting ecelebs who are acting in bad faith

>>714322807 (OP)
Remember to push well past 1 million since loltarians, republicans, corporatis and everyone else against SKG can and will find a way to challenge EVERY signature.

Heh you can just feel the seething coming from the oil barons in this thread.

>>714323663
It's annoying to hear people demand that the government intervene in their own lack of self control, and it's also annoying to hear people demand something without understanding whether it's practical or even legal.

>>714323834
you mean piratesoftware?

>>714323663
>no reason
They've been told to do by people that have been brainwashed by people that are psychopaths who are paid by the gubmint

>>714323707

BASED REPAIRMAN

I don't care about this one way or the other but I think it's disgraceful how a bunch of drama farmers like Cr1TiKaL have ganged up on Thor using le heckin wholesome chungus mold man as an excuse.

>>714323927
Regulations are good.

Won't amount to anything but ugly warnings crowding the beautiful boxart. Sorry champs. That's your prize.

>>714323748
He's a blizzard fag, does he even have fans or shills? Youtube pushed him hard at one point, but I don't remember anyone ever actually liking him.

>>714323462
>714323357 (You)
I'm happy for the initiative finding success in the end, I'm just yet again disappointed in our species that fucking internet drama of all things was what got us over the finish line. I could cope myself into thinking people would have showed up towards the end regardless, but I'm really not sure that would have been the case.

>>714324023
Cry more Malding Faggotry

You all know what could be coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the possible consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This could be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.

This might not be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this may not even be the corpo vs government clash either, this could come entirely at your expense. They MIGHT fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as intentionally misunderstanding Thor like he clearly is. He may have had to go to such lengths to ignore all the valid concerns Thor brought up and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games. Maybe he was hoping there'd be a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this to bully Thor all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from something that could potentially harm devs without hearing their concerns? They've been going into overdrive to push for this and you are all being way too mean to Thor.

If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you think hard before you sign this. Give it some thought, and spend a day to consider what Thor brought up on the Dev side. This shit could have so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Do you really believe that you might not be throwing away your information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time?

>>714323748
that dildo looks very unexciting

>>714323952
Nothing ever happens.

>>714322874
Soggy Cereal's video is the best at using this over and over lmfao

>>714324079
didn't read you're gay

>>714323663
I literally don't give a shit whether your little petition succeeds or not. I just wish you'd stop spamming the board and buy a fucking ad already. The fact that you won't buy an ad for maximum visibility and instead resort to shitting up the board with nonstop threads makes me question your sincerity.

>The only people who care about this are retard gacha paypigs who can't control themselves

No matter what they decide, it's a win-win either way, games will get better or people will despise the EU even more

>that's right I lied on purpose to bring more attention to it
>I was the good guy all along

>>714324079
You lost Thor

>>714324079
>asmonrat
not reading your gay wall of text kill yourself

>>714323927
>demand that the government intervene in their own lack of self control
this shit never made any sense to me because how the fuck are you going to dramatically change culture and peoples mindset to actually push for the benefit of all?
legitimately some people just have enough money, power, and persuasion to make things go their way and get away with shit for seveal decades so your only chance for ANY salvation is SOME government interference.

>>714324079
Yes I do know what will happen if this imitative succeeds.
I'll be able to play the games I bought forever.

>>714324028
Consumer protection is important. Nanny state faggotry is not. This kind of regulation is how you end up with buildings where you can't open the windows more than a few inches to make sure you can't jump out.

>>714324048
To add on top of it, I'm not saying piratesoftware or whoever he's supposed to be isn't a massive faggot, I'd just like people to show up for a cause mainly because it's a good cause, not because of celebs x, y and z telling them to. Tale as old as time, I know.

>want to play Kartrider Drift again
>Nexon killed it outside of Taiwan and Korea, and they're planning to kill it for them too in a few months
it hurts liking non-sim racing games
they're almost all either single player, offline multiplayer only, live service with extra monetization, ultra-dead, or more retarded than Mario Kart (unmodded)

>>714324079
>Give it some thought, and spend a day to consider what Thor brought up on the Dev side
Thor misinterpreted the entire initiative on purpose. He's arguing against an initiative that doesn't exist.

>>714323748
I've done worse

>>714323663
>one good thing
More expensive games and more regulation is not a good thing. Stupidity should not be tolerated under any circumstances.

I have not been paying attention to any of this, can I get a QRD about what all this is about? I googled and got a site but I still don't get it.

>>714323981
Ironically he will do way more harm than good kek, he's bringing a software developer to debunk "muh stop killing games".

>>714322807 (OP)
means nothing, won't pass and will change nothing. keep coping retards.

Hopefully this will lead to fewer indie games with multiplayer, I don't have friends and all of this friendslop is making me sad

>>714324326
>I bought
The initiative is not retroactive.

>>714324398
The initiative does not affect F2P games, or games with subs like WoW.

>>714323927
>whether it's practical
It's completely practical and there are numerous examples, you're just a moron.
>or even legal
That's literally what the initiative is about, you smoothbrained fucking faggot retard. Just kill yourself you complete waste of resources.

>>714323927
It's not my lack of self control that's the problem, it's the lack of self control of the billions of retards who let this shit go unchecked and tell me it's no big deal when I rail against it.

>>714324323
>so your only chance for ANY salvation is SOME government interference.
Or, you could just not buy a video game that relies on a first party server to function. Or do so understanding that it's not a permanant fixture.

>>714324326
>I will be able to play different offline single player versions of a game I never had to begin with

>Developers being allowed to delete an entire game forever is good because.... fascism

>>714322807 (OP)
Even if it passes the million, we should keep gathering signatures just in case some are invalid

qrd on the eceleb drama?

>>714324487
name 5 indies with multiplayer

>>714324220
that's actually partially the mods fault since things could've stayed in one thread until mods deleted it out of nowhere which then ended up in many threads being made
also the anti-SKG people have been spamming threads also and spamming CP and gore just to falseflag and have mods delete threads faster which then becomes another cycle of spamming threads

basically this all would've never happened if the threads were like they were in the beginning where there was literally only one in the catalog.

What are the countries with poor ID verification? We should have a worst-case-scenario signature count and aim to get 1M signatures that won't be discarded for sure.

>closing online game
>here is local server
was of that hard?

>>714324445
Developers will have to make sure games can be played after they end their support of the game
Not that they have to keep servers up, but that normal people are able to play a game long after official servers are closed

>>714324629
among us, phasmophobia, lethal company, repo, peak

>you want to play the games you buy whenever you want? NOOOOOOO THAT CAN'T FUCKING HAPPEN YOU FUCKING CHUD JUST LET ME TAKE YOUR GAMES AWAY YOU FUCKING CHUD YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO OWN THEM

>games will be forced to have offline modes in the event of a server/company shutdown
no....NOO!! WE HAVE TO STOP THIS NOW!!!!

>>714324553
man you really are simplistic and retarded to think that would work.
just so you know I haven't bought a ubisoft or EA game in a decade and both companies exist. I want you to convince several million to do the same.

>>714324665
Yes, this is literally dev genocide.

do you really care about a decade old game being taken away from you?

>>714324538
>It's completely practical
Depends on the game. You're not going to be running EVE privately, for example.
>That's literally what the initiative is about, you smoothbrained fucking faggot retard.
If you didn't understand what I was alluding to, you could have just asked. Many game servers run using third party software that the game publisher does not have the right to redistribute.

>>714324665
You would be surprised how cheap some companies are when it comes to doing the bare minimum.

>>714324079
>it was full of delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything
It never stopped being that way you faggot-ass faggot. I'm tired of faggots trying to act like Jack Thompson was the last threat games faced and pretending it's fine that old faggots sit on all of the investor boards, executive seats, and director positions trying to sterilize and over-monetize everything with no fucking idea of what makes a good game.

>>714324665
It's impossible to make peer-to-peer work without making the game open source

>>714324592
Yes. And not just single player games.

>>714322807 (OP)
>EUanons actually saved gaming
I kneel, euros... I will never disrespect a euro (on gaming) ever again.

>>714324741
>just so you know I haven't bought a ubisoft or EA game in a decade and both companies exist
So you're saying that you haven't personally been wronged, you're just seething about financial transactions that you aren't even a part of. Lmao.

>>714323113
No irony. Some games are wokeshit and should never have been greenlit.
The scale is being reweighted. Cry about it.

>>714323952
it's basically always
>cool petition! anyway, into the trash it goes

Ross is ugly and poor

I still don't get why I am seeing this so much. Since when did an petition ever do anything? Why do people give a shit?

>>714324938
And you're a virgin.

Believe it or not, this is the first (successfull) Euroepan Citizen initiative that regards tech, culture or media instead of like...fucking animal rights and pesticides in food and shit.

I think this has a much higher likelyhood to actually result in something considering the European track record.

>>714324461
BASED!!!

>>714324819
Some guy literally made coop mods for dark souls 1, 2, 3, sekiro and Elden Ring. The games don't connect to Fromsoft servers at all. Did he steal the source code?

>>714323952
the only way it'll work is if you give the politicians money

>>714324823
Ok well your not getting either. Even if you stuff the ballot box.

>>714324893
>you haven't personally been wronged so you shuoldn't care
ah yes the typical non-white mentality on the prospect of even minimally improving society.

>>714324969
They're formal legal initiatives that require lawmakers examine the issue if they meet the signature threshold

It doesn't require they pass laws, necessarily, but it requires they at least consider it

>>714324969
Maybe take 10 seconds to read instead of seething, faggot. It's NOT a petition.

>>714325029
Sounds like you don't need the devs to do anything then.

I dont live in EU but i would sign this god i hate being a burger with rigged election goylord trump in office

>>714325096
At least you were able to vote for him

>>714325058
>ah yes the typical non-white mentality
That is actually a very white mentality.

>>714325029
These games are already peer to peer, the first party server only does match making.

>>714325053
Actually I will, Bobby.

>>714325029
Do you know which servers they do connect to?

>>714324969
>Since when did an petition ever do anything?
If you spent just 2 minutes reading about it, you'd see that it's something called European Citizens Initiative and if it gets 1 million legit signups, then they literally have to take a genuine look at it and have actual discussions about it.
>Why do people give a shit?
Because one day all devs and publishers might just decide that every single game is now online-only and then once they decide to shut down their servers/game, then those games just cease to exist forever.

Does anyone have the funny maps or even the website counting the votes?

>>714325058
How about you minimally improve your awareness that online game communities live then die and getting an empty server wont bring your game back?

>>714325093
You'd have a point if the average anon could make such mods. But no.

Place your bets on the arguments that the industry is going to throw the way of the EU when it comes to the negotiation part of this.

>>714324726
>>714324738
More like
>That game will never exist because the developer no longer has an incentive to create a product for you to purchase
You fucking morons don't understand a single thing about politics in the EU. Allowing for the globalist state to dictate what kind of games are made and how is just a really bad idea.
I'm not here to defend Ubishit or EA or Epic or whatever, but video games are products first and foremost and they are made to make a profit. If you limit our ability to make that profit, there simply will not be a reason to make the games.

>>714323113
People do it for the dopamine of trolling and arguing
You can only troll people about topics people care about. The more people care the easier it is to troll.
Values<dopamine, welcome to the post social media era. Doesn't it feel good when you prove someone wrong, so smart

>That is actually a very white mentality.

>>714325058
There are no negative externalities of people buying shitty videogames. Society would not be improved if MMOs were illegal.

>>714325208
>t.

>>714324417
>more regulation is not a good thing
You're right, regulations are inherently bad. We should remove all regulations, including those that force companies to list the ingredients that are in the food they sell you
Make it legal to add arsenic in food too. If people buy food with partial ingredients lists and arsenic in it, it's their own fault and they should stop being retarded

>>714325148
Don't count on it.

>>714325208
>videogames will cease to exist if they can't have always online bullshit
good

>>714325181
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/
It even has a graph :DDD

Could dogshit companies (Ubisoft, EA, Sony) get around this by still selling games in the EU but having you accept an EULA or whatever when you buy the game?

>>714325158
>a genuine look at it and have actual discussions about it.
Doesn't really mean much.

>>714325153
It's P2P, thanks to steam's matchmaking interface.

>>714325208
>>That game will never exist because the developer no longer has an incentive to create a product for you to purchase
what a retarded line of thinking
>Oh no! We have to have an end of life plan for our games, better not making any more games like that and lose out on that market and profits!!!

>>714325208
TSMT videogame companies will only sell cards and boardgames from now on if this passes!

>>714323927
Freedom is good and I want to use my freedom to punish greedy kikes trying to steal from me.
Freedom is relative
>NO, NOT LIKE THAT

>>714325182
It's funny how we made fun of this but this is now the argument you're using just to be contrarian
I know you don't even believe this you're just wanting to argue for arguments sake.

>>714325284
It means more than nothing.

>>714322807 (OP)
Rent free

>>714325208
We will miss out on more ubisoft games? It's so over...

>>714325208
Explain how allowing a game to be played offline via providing server tools for players or not requiring a permanent connection to developer servers will inhibit studios from making games.

It's only just beginning.

>>714323113
>unreleased games are real games
>fetus is just a clump of cells
you amerimutt bootlickers are unhinged

>>714323113
>companies will be a little more discerning about the predatory slop they release
hopefully

Finnish public news station YLE just published about stop killing games.

https://yle.fi/a/74-20170653

>>714325208
>our ability to make that profit

>>714325096
>*knock knock knock*

>>714325358
>save me unelected EU bureaucrats!!1!

>97K Remaining

finns are gonna reach 600% by the end of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TGalu36BHA

SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE BOTTOM LINE FOR AAA COMPANIES

>>714325284
I think it's kinda like those law thingies where you're forcing someone to take a stand where they previously didn't have to, we will get a definitive answer and the self-proclaimed consumer champion will have to stand with normal people or megacorps

>>714325208
>That game will never exist

Fine, i'd rather developers spend time and money making games that won't become unplayable anyways

>>714324048
It's not necessarily internet drama, it's that the guy who tanked it finally got called out for it. Ross was a fucking moron to stay silent after Thor's hitpiece, he would've gotten to a million way before now if he hadn't tried being the "nice" guy about it.

>>714325340
Not really. You can't own a service. I never once believed otherwise.

>>714325208
I want you to know that if the game industry totally fucking dies and no games ever get made again other than indies willing to play ball I'm 100% okay with that

>>714325275
>by still selling games in the EU but having you accept an EULA or whatever when you buy the game?

EU Customer Protection Laws supercede whatever EULAs have written on them

>>714325289
Which means they still use external servers, retard.

>>714324738
This would actually be great for Brood War remastered, it already has private ladders but if Blizzard shuts the servers off one day that might fuck over some things.

Any spaniard here? I checked some of your biggest vidya e-celebs and not one has mentioned that.

>>714323632
We'll at least get an indirect response, which is "Look, fuck your consumer rights! Have a nice day."

Yes, signature spoofers will be arrested by interpol.
No, the initiative won't be affected.

>>714325208
>limit our ability to make that profit
This is everything wrong with modern games. You fucking niggers think of profit before everything else. You cunts have zero passion or love for video games. Even if this did kill always online gaas dogshit as a consequence I'd still praise it you cock slurping fucking cretin. Fuck you

>>714325340
Not him but that’s not an argument. Honestly I hope it succeeds at this point, just so Eurotrash stops spamming my board their neckbearded ecelebs.

>>714325478
This is bad for the industry. Fewer games, less profit, less innovation and a shrinking market.
This is the reality of your ''pro consumer'' petition. You will be killing the industry.

This is botted af, we need a lot more than 1M

>>714325506
>You can't own a service
That means neither can the companies and they should be compelled to release the things that make the service functional then

ur welcum

>>714325547
PirateSoftware getting investigated by Interpol would be peak ending desu

>>714325463
Good point, I'll sign it again.

>>714325208
>our ability
Kek

>>714325339
Trying to fuck with people you don't like by manipulating the law is literally the single most jewish thing you can possibly so. You wanna pirate? Go ahead, I don't give a fuck. Bragging about intentionally dragging the nany state into gaming? I'm calling you a faggot.

>Play Quake
>Play Unreal
>Play Half Life DM
>Play Ratchet Deadlocked multiplayer
>Play Spy vs Spy multiplayer
Can't wait to expand my server farm to support more "dead" games when this passes.

>>714324738
Please think of the tiny indie devs with no budget or staff that operate massive online-only games, though.

>>714324749
I really wanted to play Front Mission Online, Star Wars Galaxy, and Final Fantasy: War of the Visions. My punishment for not being a trend-chasing FOMO-obsessed consumer is that I will never be able to. I never got to finish White Knight Chronicles 2's online play, and by the time me and my friends came back to play, it was prematurely ended. I really enjoyed Tabula Rasa, which I only played for one month due to the free month, but by the time I had free time from college (this was late 2008), it had already shut down, ensuring I never got to actually play a game I really enjoyed.

Yes, I want to play 10 year old games. And I believe that people who push this FOMO shit should be exiled to and imprisoned in central Africa. I'm sick and fucking tired of not getting to play games because they came out and then fucked off before I had time to actually play it. I have zero sympathy for devs who close games.

>>714324761
>You're not going to be running EVE privately, for example.
You can third party servers that are able to run the game.

You can only reply to this post if you country has over 300% signatures
NOT SO FAST NON-NORDICKS + Denmark
The Lions of the North WW@

>>714325208
>"shutting down games and making you buy the new one is good actually"
Shoot yourself, if you're a nogunz euro jump off a bridge

>>714325275
No, whenever a major power puts in a regulation the companies just sigh and make it the standard. If the EU forces them to do something then that something becomes the standard. These companies can't be assed to make massively different versions of their products.

8 months ago
>ITS DEAD HAHAHAHAH NO MOMENTUM
1 week ago
>SAAAAAAAAR LET US KILL GAMES AND SPAM 'ZA & GAY PORN
today, passing 900k
>ITS NOT EVEN GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING, ALSO THE SIGNATURES ARE ALL FAKE!!!!!

>>714325628
>investigated for voter fraud
>interpol discovers caged children and raped ferret corpses

>>714322893
>>714323296
Go back, sharty chud. These activism threads suck but you're even worse.

>>714325208
>That game will never exist because the developer no longer has an incentive to create a product for you to purchase
The incentive for making games isn't the ability to turn them off, it's money. That's why they made games before online games. There's a million ways to still monetize. Any game that leverages the live service or subscription model intentionally gimps itself and creates a worse product anyways.

>don't like petition
>make false signatures on it so the whole thing gets dismissed

>>714325590
Nobody has ever extrapolated on how making studios have an end of service plan to all allow players to continue playing their fsforitr game past "fuck u lol" is going to kill games or stop them from being made.

>>714325093
We need the kikes to stop ending Cease and Desists

>>714325551
Well yeah businesses only exist to make money. You think I’m releasing anything I ever make down the line for free? Most “gamers” are entitled manchildren who deserve the shit they eat up.

>>714325616
nice work, king

>>714325513
You can literally use it via LAN if you want. So no, try again.

>>714323927
They cater for the shareholders and investors, not the public.
The public already said loud and clear and with sales that no one want concord.
Yet concord 2,3,4, X, Legends and Zerker versus ninja are still being made.
Also most people don't even know that they don't own games. or didn't, until al lthis.

these constant "spikes" really do look like botting or some shit is going on

we really need to make sure to get this way above 1m to be sure

>>714325753
and then you get arrested by interpol

>>714325208
Stop, stop, I already signed, I can't sign again stop selling it to me so hard!

>>714325208
>Can you imagine a world without new live service games?

>>714325506
yet when something even tangentially beneficial comes and challenges that idea you instead go AGAINST it instead of even giving it a chance?
instead of even passively supporting it just so you can have a BIT of benefit you'd rather have none?

>>714325590
games don't need live service integration to be profitable or innovative

Enjoy having no more games lmao

>>714323037
Based

>>714325732
And then
>lmao botted you're going to lose like 40% of signatures
which is an honest concern

>>714325208
>If you limit our ability to make that profit

I love this movement

>>714325208
>our
Way to out yourself, you pathetic pie e of shit

>>714325840
Gimme the archive link or you're a ferretfucker.

>>714325832
>just give it a chance
Never, fuck leftism and fuck the EU

>>714324417
>Stupidity should not be tolerated under any circumstances

Unless it's corporate stupidity that lack of regulations would let it roam freely. And if the worse that could happen is "Modern gaming literally dies" then that would still be better than where we are now.

>>714325840
that is such fucking bullshit lmfao yeah these companies are totally gonna miss out on that market and profits because they have to have an end of life plan for their games. sure thing, phil, I believe you.

>>714325803
no it's just from content creators shilling it. pewdiepie is a large part of it too, his audience is massive.

>>714325769
>admitting to being a soulless faggot
Eat shit. I hope you lose your job. I have no interest in playing games made by passionless demons driven purely by profit.

>>714325803
>or some shit is going on
Moistcritical talked about it. Pewdiepie talked about it. Jacksepticeye talked about it. Grummz talked about it. Elon Musk retweed Grummz talking about it.

These are just some of the huge profiles off the top of my head who have talked about it in the last 24 hours.

>>714325590
>Fewer movies are made
>All the people who love movies suddenly stop watching movies instead of watching the few that come out each year
Make it make sense

>>714325208
>If you limit our ability to make that profit
>our ability
>our

>>714325757
Because, retard, what is the point in making a new game if the players can just keep playing your old game, that you stopped supporting since it wasn't financially viable, for fucking free?
Enjoy playing Game: Online forever, because you sure as shit ain't getting Game 2: Online.

Use your brain and think for yourself even for one second, please.

>>714325797
>Yet concord 2,3,4, X, Legends and Zerker versus ninja are still being made.
And? Every day a new dogshit TV show comes out, I don't hear you crying for legislation over that.
>Also most people don't even know that they don't own games.
Yeah it's almost like it never fucking mattered.

>>714325942
all of those are literal whos.

so what games was killed? did something happened and some games dead out there?

>>714325753
you've just committed a crime in the EU by interfering into a democratic process
have fun rotting in jail

I hope the big corpos will get fucked by this some way or another. and everyone who supports those crappy practices for that matter.

>>714325665
I want to use the government for my own people and to advance my own agenda, yes.
>it's jewish to do that
Sure it is, bud. Not using a gun doesn't mean the gun can't be used by your opponent. Same for government. I don't care about counter arguments because they are wrong.

>>714325803
holy shit, someone will get investigated for this

>>714322807 (OP)
Imagine spending 11 months trying to demoralize people and shitting on the campaign, just for it to make it through in its last month anyways.

>>714325208

>>714325997
Poor bait.

We need a /v/-board for SIGNATORIVS, you present your email confirmation of your signature and you get to post with fellow SIGNATORIVS

>>714325901
you're pretty much admitting to being a cück that loves to be screwed over when something as small as this triggers you.
this is beyond crabs in a bucket mentality it's actual cück behavior

>>714325983
Make it a better experience then fucknugget.
People aren't only playing Quake deathmatch for example, Quake 2 and 3 both have players.

>>714325517
Meds don't play vidya, too extroverted.

>>714325934
>soulless
Aren’t most of you guys Atheists over there? All games were ever only made for profit, regardless of what you thought at any other point in time. People care about money, shocker!

>>714325665
I am absolutely using state power to crush your faggot face. Die mad about it.

>>714323663
Might be unironic paid marketing from publishers.

>>714322807 (OP)
Why does Piratesoftware's fursona look like Wonka Depp? He looks like the kind of guy who'd sneak you piece of experimental gum and hide inside the bathtub while you violently transform into a giant blueberry.

>>714325608
>That means neither can the companies
No it doesn't. They're providing it. You can't ever own it or provide it. Do you want a box label telling you this?
>>714325832
You're getting your chance retard. Stop crying.

>>714325840
They won’t do shit (except not kill games).

>>714322807 (OP)
oh wow, they are going to do it, good for Euros that dont allow themselves to be raped by big corporations unlike americans

>>714325983
game devs used to have to do this thing called "innovation"
If this is even a small step toward forcing devs to innovate then I'm all for it.

>>714325590
>fewer games

Offline and single player titles cost less then live service and mass multiplayer shit, it would mean more, not less games

>>714323296
will you stop pretending to be a jannie?

>>714325998
Daily reminder that this all started over the Crew, a shitty open world Ubisoft driving game.

Nothing ever happens.

>>714325208
>If you limit our ability to make that profit, there simply will not be a reason to make the games.
Nigger, no company is just going to give up on the thing that makes them money just because they could be making more if a law didn't exist. If that was the case, there would be no companies on Earth.

>>714325208

>>714326110
>while you violently transform into a giant blueberry.
I still can't believe that movie became the basis of an entire fetish.

>>714326056
But what if I am a shitposter from down under who can't vote but has been rooting for you cunts by spreading the word?

>>714326110
kek

does anyone have his >>714325753 picrel? I wanna see what image he posted

>>714325812
You mean like everyone who was trolling the UKs emergency online chat from America?
Interpol wont do shit, European government glowies cant comprehend citizens that are actually armed.

>>714325983
>what is the point in making a new game if the players can just keep playing your old game
so you can sell a new game, that is hopefully better. besides it's not like you can't still sell that older game as well.
you argument boils down to "why should I make an effort to sell more product?".

>>714326057
>censoring your own words
Faggot, I do whatever I want and fuck any government overreach that tries to tell me otherwise. My game is literally based around killing Commies like you.

>>714326010
>>714326097
I'm heckin's based for getting the government to ban gas stoves!
lol

>>714326108
There’s potentially millions on the table this is a huge industry. They’d be dumb not to shill.

>>714325928
>>714325942
That graph is just from today, in pretty regular intervals we get spikes of like 500 votes at ones. There's something fucky going on.
>>714326020
I hope so.

>>714325803
isn't that from both ecelebs shilling it and the votes getting processed in batches?

>>714325840
Xbox is already doing that regardless kek.

>>714325840
obviously fake article, but this is literally just blag and bluster.
The current petition doesn't list anything concrete, its just the idea that games should be playable EITHER singleplayer after the service ends OR on community ran and community funded servers using the server side code released by the developers to enable continuous operation.
>BUT [Edge Case #39482] MAKES THIS IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Yeah, thats why its just a little funny vote right now so that gets ironed out.

>>714325983
If your sequel or new project is so fucking bad that literally the entire fan/playerbase has no interest in moving on from the previous that's on the fault or the studio, not the players. What a fucking absurd reasoning. That's ignoring that the majority of a playerbase will absolutely move on when the official end of service hits. I would consider you follow your own advice, mongoloid.

>>714325840
Fake

>Half of /v/ is so cucked into the live service model that they literally can not comprehend how a studio would BEGIN to monetize a game without a battlepass and gacha system
You guys need this more than you know

>>714325983
>why would people want to play mario 2 if we don't make their mario 1 carts explode

>>714326110
I always shudder when I think about how him and his boyfriend have ferret fursonas and jerk off to ferret erotic roleplay, and then they have a "ferret rescue" with 50 ferrets.

I pray that they aren't raping and molesting those poor ferrets.

>>714324969
>Since when did an petition ever do anything?
Since ancient greece. If not longer.

>>714326204
Bronyshit.

>>714326235
Cry about it, FAGGOT

>>714326204
it's a dabbing unicorn with a rainbow mane

>>714326217
Uh huh sure thing bro just keep botting the votes I'm sure nothing will go wrong

>>714326204
stupid newfag

>>714326284
nevermind then

>>714325994
> I don't hear you crying for legislation over that.
I bet you would if the television networks and stream managers did really scummy business practices like keeping a series for only a very limited time and erasing it.
Also now that someone is bringing up the topic it might also happen.

>>714326119
>No it doesn't
So it can be owned, therefore they should not sabotage the ability of consumers to do it themselves.
>You can't ever own it or provide it
According to the law, ergo the law should change and allow customers the right to repair and maintain what the companies themselves will not do without the companies sabotaging these efforts.
No, I don't care that the multi billion dollar corporation might have to pay 2 hours worth of wages to do this.

>>714325803
Probably a script set to fetch the total number every hour,
The slopes after the big increases is explained by time having a more granular value, causing the line to fall off gradually after each update.

>>714325396
Lmao it mentions Pirate Software despite him being a literal nobody by real journalism standards.

>>714326226
>censoring
>he doesn't know
next time just fucking say you're a political grifter-newfag

>>714325780
I can't tell if you're genuinely this fucking stupid or just baiting.

>>714325516
Blizzard will never shut off BW servers for the same reason they won't shut off vanilla D2 servers. It's low maintenance and people still buy keys at full price.

>>714326265
Nobody here is defending those models.

>>714326197
Honorary SIGNATORIVS SIGNIFERI will require an invite from a SIGNATORIVS

>>714326235
Chuds win, you lose.

>>714325983
>Game 1 is no longer financial viable we can't keep servers on
>So many people will prefer playing Game 1 that making Game 2 is not viable unless we forcefully stop them from playing git
You can't have both. If enough people prefer game 1 you can afford to keep it around and if nobody wants to move to your shit sequel unless it's literally impossible to play the old game maybe the sequel just doesn't deserve to exist

>Drop mobile game for beloved franchise
>REQUIRES internet for every single interaction
>Highly dependent on social features
>Milks the fuck out of customer with gacha furniture for a few years
>Gets tired of counting money
>Tweaks game to work offline and be singleplayer
>Wraps a big fat $20 bow on the game and walks away
>Everyone is happy
That's so weird not only did they make money but they're still making money. I thought you said we couldn't make devs do this?

bot thread

>>714326384
What's so hard to understand?

>>714326369
>So it can be owned, therefore they should not sabotage the ability of consumers to do it themselves.
It's their choice. You're sabotaging their choice.

>>714326461
I'm the chud, you're a faggot leftoid eurotard.

Genuine question, not trolling. Would this prevent game companies from permanently removing your ability to play a game you bought for saying nigger in the chat? Not just banning you from multiplayer, but revoking your access to the game entirely.

SKGshills what was your favorite meme, seethe and copes from antis?

For me it was calling SKG Start Killing Goys

>>714326321
Oh what you gonna send a pakistani rape gang?

>>714325208
>there simply will not be a reason to make the games.
I hope the gaming industry crashes and burns tomorrow. Nothing of value lost. New studios will rise from the ashes just like last time.
>If you limit our ability to make that profit
>our
kill yourself you money-grubbing kike nigger

>>714326519
>EU
You do the math, anon

>>714325590
If "killing the industry" means it'll be less of a MOVIE made by AAA and more of a, you know, GAME made by gamers, I'm all for it
Hell, if it means we also have to drop down from something with FFXVI's graphics to FFX's in exchange of better everything else, I'm all for it.

>>714323663
The handful of genuine people are incurable lolberts who are exactly the same kind of subhumans that ensures the right wing is always toothless and ineffectual.
>NO YOU CANT USE GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT YOURSELF ONLY YOUR ENEMIES CAN USE GOVERNMENT TO ENFORCE THEIR WILL
>oh whoops haha guess that didn't work out for us, oh well there's always next election cycle pal :)
They are retards and should genuinely be put down like old yeller, as they are either malicious actors actively sabotaging or total retards who should be excised.

>>714325732
Yeah i remember seeing this movement spammed all the time on /v/ last year and anons kept bashing the fuck out of it. Weird to see a complete 180 being done now that there's drama involved.

>>714326391
Nobody FROM here. There are people defending that shit in these threads, they are just bad actors and fags who are false flagging as being actual users of this site.

>>714326519
>tranime

>>714326190
I watched both of the Wonka films. Been into fat women for the rest of my life. Please MAID me before I get pinned underneath Bobbi Jo Westley's pancake ass.
>>714326274
I wouldn't be surprised at all, given how specific the whole ferret thing is. It's not just cartoons with sex with that guy. It's all about those FERRETS!
>>714326475
>>REQUIRES internet for every single interaction
Ew.

>>714326475
no nononon ITS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND SERVER BACKENDS SAR DO NOT SIGN

>>714326519
No unless the game dies and private servers show up with cleaned ban lists.

>>714326474
Congratulations! You want the industry to stagnate and die!
No more video games for you!

>>714326237
Nah, it could be billions in theory, the game industry is massive, so if live service has to compete with old games, that would not be good. Though in theory, it could help you figure out what the public wants to play.

>>714326519
While they are running the service? Probably not. After that period of time? Nothing will stop you.

>>714326475
@piratebros
FUCKING KEELHAUL THIS KING'S LANDLUBBER YARRRRRRRR

>>714326384
not sure what are you even arguing against

>>714326519
>Would this prevent game companies from permanently removing your ability to play a game you bought for saying nigger in the chat?
You'd have to wait for the game to shut down, but yes.

>>714323981
Americans always fuck shit up and muddy the waters. Why represent the side of companies when they are already lobbying every single day and will have their concerns heard? STOP BEING RETARDED ROSSMAN!!!

>>714326519
No, he specifically addressed that companies can ban whoever they like for whatever reason as it's only censorship when the government does it, moeshitter tranimechud.

>>714326536
pic related best meme

NEVER SLOWING DOWN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vfyh5Bknhc

>>714326519
Arguably? Really depends on how it’s codified. One could argue that rendering your game inoperable for saying a word breaks the initiative.

>>714326519
>Say nigger
>Get money stolen
>Get a million chuds to sign a petition
Be the change you want to see in the world.

>>714325840
Don't threaten me with a good time

>>714323952
How the fuck did these get 1 million signatues but its a pain in the ass to get Stop Killing Games to 1m?

>>714324079
>none of you can see Ross as intentionally misunderstanding Thor like he clearly is
Such as?
>you are all being way too mean to Thor
I think people have actually been too kind to him.

>>714326578
You are getting less of EVERYTHING you dumb fuck.

>>714326536
I always disliked piratesoftware for being an obvious fake "good vibes" nigger on youtube shorts
feels very vindicating to see him exposed and get kicked 10000x while he's down

>>714326616
>Ew.
it felt fucking AWFUL to play when it was online and you didn't have a solid connection. Literally everytime you interacted with a villager or object it would spin load for a half a second.

>96K remaining

>eclebs start shilling something
>suddenly /v/ is filled with that something and half the discussion is about ecelebs

>>714322807 (OP)
How many signatures will be shown to be ineligible when they review it?

>>714323113
Every true gamer is celebrating the death of both big corpos and dei

>>714326602
>saying tranime
Go back.

>>714326745
*farts on your face*
sorry anon...

>>714326719
Money. How much money do you think Ross is pumping into this movement? Not a lot.

>>714325983
>Because, retard, what is the point in making a new game if the players can just keep playing your old game, that you stopped supporting since it wasn't financially viable, for fucking free?
You mean the fucking way the industry grew and worked before online gaming?

I guess the only thing he's good at killing is wow teammates

>>714326823
going by past initiatives? around 10% because of people making mistakes when signing
with bad faith actors probably 20%
but we'll clear the 1.2m hurdle easily before the end of the month

>>714322807 (OP)
Sent a bogus pledge through Greece. I think a lot of it is botted through countries that don’t require EU identification numbers like Greece and Denmark.
When the audits begin, a lot is going to get thrown out. Hopefully the Europoors are going to keep signing the initiative so it’ll be guaranteed over 1 million signatures when their unelected clerks filter out the spam

I want less games with lower budgets with worse graphics with smaller teams and this will do the trick because they can't rely on funneling people to next product like they did with Overwatch -> Overwatch 2.

Some games SHOULD get killed. They didn't deserve to be born in the first place. Not all games deserve life.

>>714326819
>popular people are popular
ok

>>714326764
For me it was when he insisted his stupid fake voice was real. Nobody sounds like that naturally, that's a 100% obvious grifter voice.

>>714326745
I can't hear youuuuu. Having too much fun in Rimworld

>>>/pol/

Lol

>>714324334
I know this is about Britain, but if I was going o commit suicide, I would not jump from a tiny ass building like mine, but go to some more interesting one and break into it and break a high floor window with my body. They cannot arrest me as I would be dead. and there is also the underground - fast dead machine. It always amazes me when some politician makes some laws that anyone with 1 minute of planning can just break. 90% of the laws in the UK cannot be applied to anyone who can plan any of their actions. If you can plan your next day in some amount of details, you can ignore almost all UK laws.

>>714326868
Makes sense a manchild like you would still think it's fucking 2007.
This is the reality of the industry. You either accept it like an adult, or continue living in a fantasy world.

>>714327021
This is supposed to be a bad thing? I fucking hate this furry faggot.

Don't know if people are talking about it but there's another Louis Rossman video about SKG now. Louis was the guy that Thor kept posting the video of because "well he didn't agree with me but he was very level headed!" or some shit. The real reason was that Louis was the only other big tuber to cover it and Thor liked him.
https://youtu.be/dibEZ9-Psss?si=KWmgSlkN3gc_2P_V
TL;DW is that Louis fully supports it and backs it, and his criticisms are with how Ross handled it. Just not fundraising or getting someone to manage funds at all, but also he took a big issue with Ross saying he's 'done' after July 31 if it doesn't pass. Louis is one of those hardcore activist right to repair types so it kind of makes sense why he'd be pissy about it. Not rude or annoying though.

>>714327021

WE ARE THE DUSTBORN
WE ARE THE NEW PORN

>>714327021
>Uh oh we have to do this one thing to ensure our games work after we drop support, better not make anymore live service games and miss out on potentially hundreds of millions of dollars in profit

>>714326631
If the only "innovation" is innovation of fucking the customer in the ass and making games worse than maybe there shouldn't be any more videogames. This is an outcome I'm okay with, but somehow there's still games that don't need to call home every 2 seconds to check if you are still allowed to play them and I have enough to a backlog of those to last me a long time and after that... I'll get a different hobby and go touch grass I suppose

>>714327021
>you will get less online only games and more single player or couch co-op games
Promise?

>>714327021
Remember when online multiplayer games came with LAN support? Good times.

Why do vidya developers get away with shitty practices that the rest of the software world just works around?

>>714327059
*sharts on your face*
woops it wont happen again

>>714323113
>WE ARE WORKING FINE SAAAR

>>714325517
Yep, just BaityBait made a video when the petition was launched 11 months ago. I don't like him (too loud) but at least he actually does some research.

Someone mentioned Alexelcapo about it and he started crying and complaining like he always does.

>>714327021
How is that a bad thing?

>>714327021
why is he threatening us with a good time?

>>714327021

>>714323663
Hey, remember when people bitched and moaned about Steam refunds and got their way? Remember what happened from that point forward? Oh yeah, steam sales suck now.
Thank you big daddy government, for ruining everything for everyone except faggots with no self-control.

>>714327116
That is just how these things work. It's like how Apple just stopped making phones after being forced to use usb-c.

>>714327021
So he is in favour of it after all.

>>714327021
Dude fuck this guy so much, I can't wait until the initiative hits 1million.

>>714327227
>Alexelcapo
No idea what he said but chances are he's the spanish version of PirateSoftware.

>>714327092
I never saw Ross to be that person to step and be the actual face of a huge movement like Rossman is. Guy just likes his vidya and was sick of them being destroyed. I do hope we do get a giga-chad activist to keep pushing forward because this shit could change the entire software world and how we view digital goods.

>>714324079
>consider what Thor brought up on the Dev side.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAHAH no thank you.

at this rate it's going to hit 1 million before I wake up

>>714326916
>Overwatch -> Overwatch 2.
Holy shit I totally forgot about that, would that be illegal if this petition leads to some laws being made? If they tried that again after the laws pass and all that jazz of course.

>>714327279
nigga are trying to fucking argue how refunds are BAD? because steam is pretty fucking lenient with their refund window

>>714327372

>>714327268
>Not a single minority
What did he mean by this?

>>714327403
They killed the first game entirely and forced people to move to Overwatch 2, absolutely yes.

>>714327225
Amerishits should be always reminded that they unironically live in a corpocratic dystopia where corpos can literally hire hitmen on you to kill you, and the police is so comically corrupt that they'll be complicit in your death.

>>714323663
they're AI chat bots deployed by xbox

>>714326809
I'd just play exclusively offline games at that point, and I already do because games that require wi-fi are stupid anyway.

>>714326536
For me it's all the nu-"devs" that are against this outing themselves as complete fucking illiterate retards who would get gtfo'd by the thought of coding a P2P connection.

>>714327021
Is he unironically playing the heel?

>>714327372
It'll slow down as it's night here in Europe now but it'll pick up tomorrow and if it hasn't it will hit the goal over the weekend.

spite is a powerful motivator kek

>>714327457
The fact I saw people defending Wizards of the Coast sending Pinkertons onto a guy who accidentally got a new Magic card early shows how fucked a corpo-cuck's mind is.

>>714327092
I'll be honest. Ross pretty much idiot savant the whole thing. He actually did all the right thing.
>No donations(makes your side more noble and just)
>Waited to tackle the drama(if Ross responded when Thor made his video, not only was Thor at his peak of popularity but many would have seen it as bitter instead of a last ditch effort to save the cause
>Did it when it was close enough to death but still with time(the start and the end are when people are at their most proactive for something again if he responded 10 months ago the popularity would have petered out)
Genuinely Ross did pretty good

>>714327021
game is healing!

>>714327372
Theres talk of potential bots, lets go for extra 500 000 just to be sure.

>>714327434
Yes.

I wonder if this could extend to thing like Ready Or Not where the devs are removing things from the game after you buy it.
Like if Steam forced them to have every version of the game downloadable from a dropdown list, that would be neat

>>714327435
>pic
Hey, wait a second...

fin that signed it only because piratesoftware is an obnoxious fuckhead.

>>714327350
If you take more than a decade to make a RPG maker game, you opinion does not matter.

>>714327021
Still misinforming.
But also... Is that a bad thing?

>>714325208
1. If the options are have gaming degenerate further into "you'll own nothing and be happy" and no more video games releasing ever. then ill take the latter. better i be forced to play all the classics until i die than some corporate fat cat cuck get even richer.

2. You and those who say "government bad" are right. the government isn't my friend. but neither are the corporations. I will utilize the strength of the one I can exert more control over to bring the other to heel.

3. I know you and your ilk are being disingenuous. you have bought into the "this movement needs a villain" mindset and wish to become a shitposter and get yous. Its not funny, and you're a faggot.

4. I do not play live service games, but i will still argue for protections of those who do, which I loathe. They cant help themselves like actual gambling addicts, so through my influence i will at least mitigate the harm they can do to themselves by making their mistaken enjoyment permanent.

>>714327592
I wonder what the law is about shooting those guys if they show up and try to do anything forcefully.

>>714327702
Based

/waiting/ for greenbar to overtake red bar.

>>714323113
We support even late term abortion at /v/ but not after birth abortion

>>714322807 (OP)
What are the chances that a ton of the signatures are found to be invalid?

>>714326235
>please Mr Schlomo sir don't make me suck the lead paint off your cock, I just got home from my 3rd shift in the asbestos mines

>>714327824
Depends on the race desu

>>714327751
Genuinely based

>>714327092
I think he's made the right-to-repair stuff his entire identity and dedicated so much time and money and energy to it, that he has to defend this way of life or else it mentally bothers him personally. He can't not criticize Ross for being a full-time activist forever, because that'd be admitting to himself being a full-time activist forever might not be worth it, and that'd destroy his self-image. Think of it less like agitating Ross to do xyz and more justifying himself doing xyz for right to repair, ex post facto, by projecting onto SKG.

>>714327702
I signed it because I also do not like piRAT, his cowardly retreat in WoW earned him a ton of enemies.

>>714327751
based af

>>714322807 (OP)
OP, in the new threads, remind people to keep spreading the word.
We need more votes to make up the invalid and fraudolent ones.

>>714327751
Gigachad really said this

>>714327753
they aren't law enforcement or employees of any government body, would fall under the same laws as if anyone else tried it

>>714327830
10% incorrect signatures
10% bots
it will go to 1.2m anyway as there's a whole month left so it shouldn't matter

>>714327225
Love me some "suicide by multiple gunshots to the back of the head"

>>714327021

>>714328015
holy swiss cheese

>>714327993
I hope it doesn't slow down too much because people think they don't need to sign it once it's 100%

I only signed the initiative on the off chance that Piratesoftware is right and it really does lead to more single player games.

>>714322874
Your hiv+ ass Fagtree?
No thanks.

Imagine if we continue speeding up and end at 4million signatures

>>714326965
go lick asmongold's toes eceleb tranny

>>714327604
Yeah, he really played it perfectly (99% by accident, and by being a good person)
He waited because he didn't want to be accused of Drama-mongering, and was clear that he was only doing this as a last effort which shows character. And that meant he waited just long enough for Jason to reveal himself as a narcissistic idiot in other domains too, giving the cause a clear antagonist to fight against.

>>714327092
idk
I see where Louis is coming from but Ross just wants to play video games instead of playing politics
and I want more game dungeon

>>714323834
This pretty much. Nailed it

>>714327992
Cool so I get to call the cops if they don't fuck off and kill some corporate hired dogs if they try anything fucky. I'm not scared of corpos sending their mutts after me.

>>714327993
It will get to 100 percent everyone will stop shilling and caring about it, the countries who didn't get 100% signatures will have ALL their signatures removed from the tally any typos or botted fake signatures will be removed
>EU: Aww, only 50% signatures after all the fakers are remved? Too bad! Rejected!

have italians even voted?

>>714327993
I think it's going to slow down to a crawl once it hits 1 million

>>714327021
>you will get less online only games and more single player or couch co-op games.

>>714322807 (OP)
qrd on the ferret fucking

People are deluded if they think they can force companies into giving away their server source code just so people can keep playing their games forever. This movement is already dead

>>714328128
nothing will happen because the EU is filled with faggots and this entire "movement" is a bunch of narcisisitic ecelebs dying on a retarded hill

>>714328181
u jelly?

>>714325803
imagine being this dumb
this is what a graph looks like if you don't put in smoothing to mess with the data
the votes get checked every 10 minutes

>>714328283
They have joined the bronze tier.

it's still going up by the thousands, even in the dead of night
shit's definitely getting botted to hell

>>714327830
Probably some are going to be found invalid because someone fucked up the input but I don't think they look that closely unless it's obviously fake and most countries have pretty roust systems for it. Still bets to aim for a bit of a buffer.
I'm assuming no schizo actually faked 100k of them

>>714328283
They (somehow) made it to 100% earlier today/yesterday

Wouldn't this just hurt PC games in the long run? This initiative really only affects PC. It's not like you can give server tools for a PS5 game.

>>714328283
Italians barely know how computers work

>>714328265
The EU shit don't actually matter.
What matter is normies knowing, if you rule the normies, you rule the universe.
And they will know, and there's nothing you can do to stop it now.

>>714328306
His fursona is a ferret.

>>714323927
>It's annoying to hear people demand that the government intervene in their own lack of self control
So I take it you support drunk driving?

>>714328350
>Make the server tool on PC
>Have your console connect to it
I don't see what's hard about that. I've played a game of Ratchet Deadlocked with people who still have their original PS2's

There are months where nothing happens; and there are days where months happen.

>>714328461
most petitions are like this
ton of support at the start
and ton of support at the end

>>714326575
>last time
the "video game crash" wasn't real, it was a purely american phenomenon. video games did just fine in the rest of the world-

>>714325208
I don't care. I dislike the pirate software guy because of how he behaved publicly. By contrast Charlie and the other bearded guy acted like professionals so whatever stance that pirate software guy takes I'll be taking the opposite. Simple as

>>714327021
But that's a good thing

>>714323981
louis griftmann

Nothing ever happens (until it does)

>>714322807 (OP)
You list, kikes. You fucking lost. Eat my steamy shit.

>>714328436
And he has a shitload of "rescued ferrets".

>>714328459
That's unlikely to happen. No console manufacturer would support the distribution of mods like that. That sort of thing is purely fan creation territory.

>>714328554
>Facebook Frog
Yeah, sounds about right. These are the people who are siding with the ''consumer movement''.

>>714328309
Seems like it boils down to “give us your server code” or “keep this old game on life support forever” both of which are losing propositions

>95K remaining

Imagine if the big publishers just set up bots to spam invalid signatures to discourage people from signing it after it's above 1 million

>Movement Succeeds
>EU Gives them everything they want
>Companies are forced to make end of life plans now for all games
>Start a new movement to stop people from playing Elite Dangerous
>Player counts crater
>Frontier hands over the server code
>People finally deliver what Frontier refused to. A single player mode

I wonder if this will fuck nintendo in the ass.
I hope it does.

Stop Botting Petitions
#PajeetedFarms

>>714328683
Imagine getting raided by interpol.

>>714325840
>sony, xbox
and nothing of value was lost

>>714328309
>>714328643
Mald

>>714327021
It's like he genuinely can't stop making bad faith arguments

God, I fucking hate how much shit I have to go through to e-sign.
Truth be told, I would rather people just stop buying games from shitty devs or learn to use private servers, the EU is already too regulatory.

>>714328643
Well the easier option is to not have games tied to a centralized server to begin with. Though, obviously, there are issues with this idea.

I guess what the people who support this movement want is for companies to detach their games from their servers and allow them to be run purely p2p.

Why are people pretending that normal people still have decision power in this dystopian society?
Some corrupt official will simply look at it and say "No.", and come up with some excuse if needed.

>>714328631
That's a car anon

>>714328683
the judge will know they wanted it to fail so will be approved.

>>714328724
Mmmmm, can't wait to get to that Black Lives Matter Rally

>>714328683
That would be their optimal play.
That’s why the score board needs to be run up as much as possible.

you faggots keep going on about muh fake signatures but haven't described a way the signatures can even be faked nor presented any evidence that it is doing so
you are just underestimating how influential ecelebs really are

>>714328724
I love how his review of the crew is
>This game is mediocre as fuck, but man I love driving across America.

Nothing involving government regulation is good. Never has been the case, never will be the case.
They will fuck things up and you will never ever be able to go back.

Fuck all of you dumbass retarded commies who sign that petition. I hope you all wake up with testicular torsion tomorrow.

>>714328743
UK votes require IDs though. You can't bot them unless you steal a bunch of peoples ids

>>714328798
good goycattle

>>714328781
There's two sides to that argument.
That's how it should work, and people should hold themselves to that.
That's how it should work, so when a company does something scummy, they should be held accountable.

The fact that you're correct has multiple logical consequences.

>>714328798
>PLEASE STOP JUST STOP THINK OF THE COMPANIES
No.

>>714328184
not to mention it being the last month adding a sense of urgency
he thinks he fumbled by not talking about it sooner, but it was really perfectly timed

>>714328643
just build the game with an offline mode and/or lan support

>>714328692
>examine the code
>no raxxla
I can't handle it

>>714328906
Seething Americans is just the cherry on top

>>714328906
Yes, remove copyright

>>714328776
Are you seething so hard you are having a stroke?

>>714328906
You lost Malding Faggotry

>>714328870
You can literally input whatever information you want on the form, it doesn't get checked until after it's sent to the EU officials

>>714325665
Fuck off Jason.

Trump is taking away my healthcare, where's the petition for that?

>>714328906
yeah fuck these commies fighting for
>owning property
...wait...

>>714328889
That is true though. The game wasn't the best, but driving coast to coast was fun as fuck and super chill

>>714328906
I love USBC instead of having tons of garbage connectors specially having to deal with my mom complaining that the fucking apple charger doesn't work for the 54665654645 time.

>>714328798
On one side: Trillion dollar company that employs countless people in tech
On the other side: People who want to play Daikatana in their basements forever at the expense of the company who made it

Hmm I wonder who the judges would side with

>>714328906
Libertarians are cuckolds

>>714322807 (OP)
wow i can't wait for nothing to happen.

>>714329056
americans are slaves sorry

>>714329056
Over at reddit, where you belong

>>714328798
>Some corrupt official will simply look at it and say "No."
B-B-B-B-Based! Oh, to be the Eastern blok boomer this is sent to who tosses this shit in the trashcan.

>>714328906
Governments are like guns.
A imperfect solution for a imperfect world, with horrible consequences.
But if there's no other solution, gun it is.

714328781
huh?

>>714328953
“No”, says the company

>>714329081
Oh it probably was, I would be lying if I said that video didn't get my interest in something like that.

>>714329123
I am a racist white neet
I am 4chan

>>714328906
>consumer rights=communism

The american mind is an enigma

>>714328906
I've noticed that US food is superior to EU food where it's more strictly regulated, and EU food is superior to US food where it's more strictly regulated. I have a hard time believing it's a coincidence.

>>714328724
>Guy dedicated a good chunk of his life to getting this started, looked at an approved by lawyers not just in America but in Europe as well, has been future-proofing just about every argument anyone could make that could potentially tank the momentum and has been neglecting his rent and food just to keep the initiative alive
>We're only a few more signatures away from the goal
I wonder what he's thinking right now

>>714329138
The other solution is to stop fucking giving money to the publishers who keep putting out predatory, shitty live service garbage.
But, no. You must consoom!

>>714329167
Libertarians are corporate cocksucker slaves so it's not surprising

>>714328916
UK votes in no way require ID, just a name and an address which you can just make up or Google

>>714328798
You're right...everyone hear that folks? This whole thing is just a bit ol' nothingburger, there really is no hope. Damn, I'm feeling sleepy...let's all get some sleep folks, this is a lost cause....

>>714329195
Ew, gross... So glad MIGA is replacing you with H1Bs

>>714328906
What about regulations about dumping toxic chemicals into rivers?

>>714322807 (OP)
If euros can save vidya, they can save their countries
Clean out the muzzies already

>>714328692
>Companies are forced to make end of life plans now for all games
SKG doesnt demand this happens retroactively unfortunately.

>>714328906
Yeah I hate that I have forests and clean drinking water around me. I wish the stupid government would just let the corporations dump their waste in the river and cut down the national forests

>>714329230
>EU food
Oh, you mean mashed potatoes and fish, or middle eastern cuisine?

>>714329229
>consumer entitlement = communism
FTFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0EYo_ZQVU
This video has literally never been more relevant to how these stupid fucking shills think.

>>714329329
The jew fears tomatoes

>>714329280
People will just stop buying stuff from companies that dump toxic waste into rivers if they care about it that much, the market will solve it.

>>714328906
Dumb burger

>>714328906
shut up jew

>>714329329
>Conflating the UK with Europe
Kill yourself.

>>714329329
>rotten meat drowned in spices

>they said we would NEVER get enough signatures

>>714322807 (OP)
>EAT SHIT YOU FERRET FUCKING FAGGOT!
?
why are gamers like this

>>714329329

>>714329392
people always say shit like this but it never actually works IRL

Stop trying to tell American companies what to do you communist fucks. This stupid authoritarian dictate will make sure you get even less games.

>>714327092
>a jew mad he didn't jew it up
Yes we know he should have begged for shekels day one and be getting more shekels right now its gotta be about the shekels!

>>714329434
Silly anon. Pokemon SW taught us that UKs staple cuisine is curry

>>714329462
it's easy when you bot it with an army of indians on VPNs working for $5

>>714324415
They censored it now lmao

>>714329501
Kill yourself Mald

>>714329462
I was preparing for the worst, turns out just attention whoring with eceleb drama was all we needed.

This will never do anything. Petitions have never worked, no matter how many signatures you can cuck up.
Fuck your Yuro gubment and fuck you for supporting this shit.

>>714328906
I agree, we should repeal copyright law, none of this would be an issue then

>>714329501
I don’t really care about temporary games. This will result in more permanent games, which is a good deal.

>>714329495
because libertarians are all terminally online retards

>>714329501
good

>>714328906
You know the Initiative is working when the thread is starting to get posts like this from seething retards. You love to see it.

>>714329230
When is US food every more strictly regulated than EU food? You mean the retarded screaming boomer children at the FDA banning epoisses and kinder eggs?

>>714323952
The thing a lot of the people signing and talking about this now is that Ross always knew this was the likely outcome. He just decided "I care about it, I'll put a year of effort in cause nobody better than me will, chances are nothing will change even if it works". Very down to earth

>>714324415
Holy shit, he's kinda hung too!

>>714329358
>consumer entitlement

No such fucking thing, the consumer is the end all be all of consumer economy. you would probably be against Teddy and the antitrust laws he pushed if you lived back then you disgusting corporate cocksucker.

Speaking of eurofood, I have no clue why people say American pizzas are better than italian pizzas. That's not to say that American pizzas are bad, I love chicago style, but I instantly have my mouth water looking at something like this.

>>714329237
I don't, and even when most people don't it still happens.
Hyenas died, concord died, but they keep doing concord 2,3, 4,5 and 6 because the US is fucking retarded and you get sued if you don't do what the investors and shareholders demand, even if it will literally kill the company.

>>714329594
>Petitions have never worked
Not a petition.

>>714328906
>STOP THE COUNT

>>714329597
>repeal copyright law
kys commie

do you think pirate software is doing a zero requiem? I refuse to believe a person can be that contrarian for no fucking reason

>>714329570
>>714329604
>>714329626
Enjoy your faggy vegan shooters from the ubuntu store i guess.

>>714329697
>No such fucking thing, the consumer is the end all be all of consumer economy
Your statement sounds like the definition of entitlement to me frogposter

>>714329501
Update your buzzword, jeet. Muh commies is getting old already

>>714329753
Copyright is socialism.

>>714328461
>the already rising line gets even more vertical
vgh
kino

>some Twitch guy had the gall to repeatedly defame, of all people, Ross Scott
What the hell?

>>714322807 (OP)
>STOP KILLING GAMES JUST PAST 900K! LESS THAN 100K TO GO! EAT SHIT YOU FERRET FUCKING FAGGOT!
How the fuck did this happen didn't it stall out at 400k?

>>714329296
That also said, for any game that is currently being supported, it's not fucking hard to implement. All devs have a SERVER.EXE file sitting on a laptop next to their workstation. It's how they test shit. It would be a trivial matter to clean up and release that same .exe to customers. People just seem to have forgotten that in the past 2 decades.

Is a gamer not entitled to the product he's purchased?
"No!" says the publisher, "It's live service"
"No!" says the developer, "It's mine to change"
"No!" says the platform, "It's licensed, not owned"
I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... permanence.

>>714329706
Americans have never eaten real pizza, and on the rare occasion they do they have a stroke because it's not what they're used to and the existence of things that aren't what they're used to offends them

>>714329771
Yeah I bet he set it up with Ross and he’ll reveal how genius he is after it’s over.

Daily reminder we need 1.2 million in total

>>714329495
I know. The whole idea that every person will extensively research their every purchasing decision is clearly retarded from the start. Libertarians in general; imagine perfectly rational actors with perfect information and perfect competition and none of those works this way.
And they still favour enforcing the things they like, like patents/copyright

>>714329753
>Wanting a free market without goverment enforced monopolies is communism

>>714329654
In multiple areas, actually. Educate yourself. The food standards are different, but that doesn't mean US has no food standards. The issue comes when they're allowed to label corn syrup with red dye "tomato ketchup" when it's basically just corn and corn derivatives.

>>714329854
And the EU will say "No! The Owner of a product has the right to terminate a product at the end of its life."
Then what will you do?

>>714329706
Bro, my best friend is italian and he would strangle you for this post. That's a frozen pizza, pic related is a real italian pizza.

>>714329706
It’s simply the inferior predecessor. Italian pizza gets a lot of points for better ingredients, absolutely, but the assembly is all off.

>>714329262
Enjoy getting extradited for a felony offense

>>714323981
rossman blew ross' ass out
this is exactly why I don't think this shit will go anywhere, ross isn't taking this shit seriously at all and once you have the corporate and government types arguing about this shit they will fuck everything up

>>714329984
twitter harassment campaign

The worst thing about this is how people think pirate actually helped the movement when its always at the very end when petitions like this get a huge part of the votes.

>>714329987
I was hoping someone was going to pick up on that, thank you anon.

>>714330003
I dunno, the cheese being sparse instead of slathered on is a win for me.

>>714329706
>>714329987
>Those nasty burnt crusts
Do yuros really....?

>>714330046
>>>/twitter/ fag

>>714329987
I've never had pizza like this, is it something you can make at home (apartment) reasonably decent?

Quick, I need to play to The Crew right now.

>>714325208
Good. Games should have stopped being made after the PS2

>>714329916
What the extra 200K for? Safety buffer?

>>714330032
He spent years talking to devs and lawyers across the globe figuring out a way to get this thing done. Then campaigned for a year. What more do you want?

>>714330147
Lurk on /fit/ and a recipe sometimes comes up that is really nice.

>>714330032
>ross isn't taking this shit seriously at all
he literally said he was working 12+ hours a day and spending his savings to get signatures
he's just an autist who isn't cut out for this kind of work but cared enough to do it anyway
his only problem is not being popular enough

Pirateshitware utterly BTFO

Alright, I’m gonna get some Dominos

>vidyas are the biggest money maker
>some how, cant get 1m signatures

At least europoors will have more time to enjoy their walkable cities when they get no games anymore.

>>714330147
yeah, don't listen to elitists
buy a pizza stone if you can and look up some recipes
making pizzas(and cooking in general) is actually really fun and you get to enjoy your hard work

>>714330096
Both look good to me.

>>714330185
theres likely a number of americans or just non EU in general that fraudulently signed

>>714330147
Sadly no. The real deal is made in ovens like this, you can't really emulate that.

>>714330252
While you are out can you get me some garlic bread?

>>714330147
Yeah, my ex made a good pizza. Never had one before because pizza is mid, but it's good stuff

>>714326519
In a word, no. The dev/publisher would still have the right to ban you from the servers that THEY host, and any other services they provide.
It would depend on each specific game, of course, but you should, in theory, still be able to run a server of your own and play with your friends.

Remidner.

BREAKING: A user by the name "PirateOfKyiv" has been found to run a bot farm in order to pump out fake signatures

Is the SKG bill retroactive? or will it only affect games that are released after the bill?

>>714329771
Look at what Twitch is. Look at the pathology that Twitch breeds. Look at who these people are. He just flushed his channel being mean to a guy who may honestly qualify as one of the most wholesome people in the sphere. For no reason.

>>714330261
uuuh, the tracker, sis???

>>714330375
not retroactive

bros I can't deal with the fallout if too many signatures end up being invalid

>>714330375
After, retroactive would be impossible.

>>714330096
It looks perfectly fine to me.

>>714329771
Hes mentally ill and thinks hes a flawless genius

>>714326094
Wrong.

Cooking pizza is fine and all, but have you made your own garlic bread with your own butter? That shit is divine.

>>714330375
It took everything in me to not call you a retard. this shit has been everywhere the past week and you still dont get it?

>>714330375
That depends on what they decide in the first place. Potential answers include
>yes
>no
>that's a category error

>>714330375
It's not intended to be retroactive.

I guess if lawmakers really wanted to they could try to make it so, since they don't have to follow the initiative's goals to the letter, but that would be very difficult so it probably won't happen

>>714330375
how stupid do you think itd be possible to retroactively apply this

>>714330451
you should prepare yourself for the fallout of the movement failing instead, it's going to get enough valid signatures

>>714330375
No, it's only for future games not for current or historical games.

>>714330341
this makes me schizo because idk if my vote from back in september last year was valid or not

>>714330503
I did. Sucked ass, recipe didn't demand enough garlic. Still got some nice buttery toast out of it though

>>714330503
I thought Garlic bread was the summit but garlic spread on Garlic bread changed my life.

>>714330261
People are fucking retarded, unless you wiggle keys infront of them (Youpooper controversies talked about by other Youppoopers) none of them would know about this.

>>714330375
Depends on what the EU lawmakers and regulators deem appropriate.

>>714330639
As an anti-EU fella I would welcome more disdain towards them as well, I suppose it's gonna balance it out

>>714330453
>>714330636
>impossible
but if you tried REALLY hard tho....

>>714330636
It's possible to include legislation that entitles consumers to fair compensation if it's an old release. This is actually the result if they include it as a clause in existing legislation.

>>714330147
You can't make it in a normal domestic oven, sorry anon. The bread has to cook at temperatures well above what your oven can do.

However, if you're keen to get into it and you have a bit of money to spare, look into home pizza ovens like these:
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/review/best-pizza-ovens
As of the last few years it's been possible to get a home pizza oven that's reasonably affordable, compact, and convenient, and produces more or less restaurant-grade pizzas.

>>714330503
My mom makes banger Cheesy Garlic Bread, she likes to put pepper flakes in it for a little kick too. My birthday lunch growing up would be medium rare steak sandwiches in between two of those bad boys.

>>714325983
Yes, you fucking moron. What IS the point of making the exact same game over and over, calling it a sequel and asking people to buy it again? Money? Get fucked. If you don't produce something worth playing no one is going to buy it. You aren't entitled to people's money and you are not entitled to exist. You retarded cum guzzling, pig raping faggot.

>>714325983
If Game: Online was good and we were having fun with it, why did we need a Game 2: Online? Look at TF2 and CS:GO, they seem to be perennial games that their players are quite happy to not see replaced with new releases.

>>714329056
You don't need it, you'll be going to war for Israel

This thread really has it all, contender for thread of the week

It feels weird that something good happens for once

>>714329501
Ok Sukhmendeep Johnson from Alabama

>>714329235
He's a pessimist so he's unironically probably thinking a lot of the things the shills say, but he most likely powers through it like always.

>>714324023
The rope is just a hardware store away

wait a moment how this even affect mmos? you are not buying the game, you get a subscription. is Pirate software a retard?

>>714330708
At what point do you just put a whole garlic between two pieces of bread and start muching.

Stopkillinggames.com isn’t loading for me. Anyone else verify?

>>714329501
Mickey Mouse caused this problem in the first place. Mickey Mouse should stop telling us all how we should run our countries.

>>714326631
It has stagnated for the last 20 years you retarded little faggot. There are no "new" games, there is only "next" game. But you're too fucking stupid to see the difference.

>>714330375
>>714330449
>>714330453
>>714330576
>>714330636
They could just make it apply to games currently still in service aka still under the proviso of the developer. That's not technically retroactive, as the service is still ongoing. Only already discontinued games would fall under the purview of retroactive.

>>714330708
Garlic oil is peak garlic, finely chopped garlic in a neutral oil and letting it infuse overnight.
>>714331151
yeah

>>714329262
this nigga posted himself commiting a crime.

>>714331192
lmao yeah it's dead
cause over guys, we gave it our best shot

>>714331192
its dead jim
Thor won

>>714331183
You say this but I caught my gf munching on garlic straight at midnight one night.

>>714331067
Great year for vidya all around. E33, Silksong confirmed for 2025 release, SKG might actually pass.
Here, have a ring for good luck!

>>714331151
MMOs that rely on a subscription aren't affected, but there's less than 10 of them

>>714331151
That's the thing, since MMOs are billed monthly as a service, the business model is honest and it's unlikely they'll be impacted. What they might do is tell MMOs that if their game is a service, it's a service, and copying services is encouraged as long as no copyright laws are broken.

>>714331268
>>714330006
and how precisely would one click the verification email sent to chucksneed@4chan.org that would make a vote count?
you fucking imbeciles

You can actually make games yourself and make them open source so they remain free forever and you can customize them as you like

I’m guessing this is more about forcing Ubisoft to give up their server code though because I don’t see any mention of open source in this discussion

>>714331292
why i can't believe thor is hacking skg now

>>714331192
>SHUT IT DOWN

>>714331383
Sorry mate, just got off the phone with Vance and Thiel, they're sending an amazon drone to pick you up

>>714331409
What it actually means in the real world is that Ubishit is allowed to do this stunt if they refund the game. Fair's fair. They take away access, you get your money back.

>>714331419
I wonder if the site did get hit with something. The opposition is getting really extreme.

>>714331409
Did you ever play a multiplayer game that supports dedicated servers? Btw this initiative isn't about forcing devs to open source anything. They just need to give us ANY way to keep playing their game past their official lifetime

>>714331192
>They made it to 90%?

>>714331547
Best case, it is being hit with a shitload of people wanting to sign it

>>714331151
>wait a moment how this even affect mmos?
It won't
>you are not buying the game, you get a subscription.
correct they are upfront about it upon buying a sub so they don't fall under this
>is Pirate software a retard?
yes

>>714331192
Yeah it's giving a blank page. IsItDown says it's up, so best case scenario it's being updated, worst case, someone hacked it and deleted it. Obviously the petitoin which is on offical EU site is safe, but now it's harder to get to. was at 90% at my last check

link to eu petition:
https://x.com/StopKilingGames

THE FUCKERS HIT THE WEBSITE.

>>714331151
>how this even affect mmos?
Its a product you pay for, why should it be exempt.

>>714331892
it's a monthly subscription with a defined end date, which makes it perfectly legal.

>>714331409
ubisoft can release binaries (not source code) that require a server tower with specific hardware to run and that would suffice even if the average consumer wouldnt be able to get it running, at least the goddamn means are within reach not just to people that work for the company itself
there is a lot of creative freedom allotted to developers here on how they should go about with EOL which is why everyones dunking on thor for trying to frame that as a bad thing

>>714331892
If it's a subscription it's clear you are paying for a service with a specific timeframe so it's not within the scope of this initiative.

>>714331892
If The Crew was sold up front as "10 years' licence" do you think it would be used as the go to example?
If you buy an MMO and the server goes offline, it's clearly not the same. Do you think lawyers are disconnected from the real world?

fuck maldavius figtree

>>714330341
why is ross still up at 1am

>>714329706
What you think of as "american pizzas" is probably slop from some chain. Decent pizzerias in the eastern US make pizza this way all the time. Along with typical new york-style, or sicilian, ones with a thicker crust, etc. It's like tasting a hershey bar and saying "damn american chocolate sucks!" when there's like 2000 other brands making all kinds, including stuff identical to the Europeans.

So what about this abomination?

>>714332298
He's a gamer without a 9-5, what do you think?

>>714331570
I think one possible solution to say that making private servers is a legally protected way to repair your game.

>>714324023
They were unironically all too soft on him

>>714327918
>He can't not criticize Ross for being a full-time activist forever, because that'd be admitting to himself being a full-time activist forever might not be worth it, and that'd destroy his self-image
>this
he spent the majority of the video making it about himself.

>>714323113
I don't.
All games deserve to exist. Don't rope me in on other people's bullshit.