>>714371215 (OP)>enemies just stand around doing nothingFigures
No thanks, take your Japanese Toddjima Starslop elsewhere. I'd rather play Quasimorph for another 900 hours.
>>714371262Sam is too fast for them.
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>714371215 (OP)I just got the pizza moves, still really fucking hate that circle is attack. I constantly switch square and circle in accessibilities every time I'm about to go into a fight.
>>714371215 (OP)/v/ can't decide if they want to hate this game because it's muh moviegame or because it's too video gamey and not realistic and serious enough
I wish the terrain was tougher, where are my hecking crevasses
>>714371745Idk why they changed some controls honestly
>>714371215 (OP)how the fuck do you do this? rubber pizza?
>>714371215 (OP)that flying drill punch was fucking cringe as fuck
>>714371262Figures what you little cunt? Figures that you're a whiny little bitch and don't know shit? Yeah, figures pretty hard.
Now shut the fuck up, men are talking.
I will when La Creatividad puts it on PC in x amounts of years due to Sony, thanks for beta testing the game until then.
just about to start the first one. i remember playing the first one when it came out and was bored.
Im older now so maybe i enjoy it this time? its got mads in it so it might actually be good.
>>714373896im pretty sure the first one came to pc in like 8 months after release on ps4
>Off roader not able to drive up steep snowy mountains
I will NOT walk
absolutely insane how much soul this game has
>>714372670What is this exoskeleton? Battle?
I expected Bokka to let me move through tar during BT fights quicker but no luck
>>714374116you get an upgrade for tires around chapter 8
>>714371745I keep forgetting pick up chiral crystals is triangle now instead of square and I keep jumping out of my truck lol
>>714374116Even worse when you've already climbed so far then fucking BT's spawn in and you go flying back down the mountain
Throw dollman at the ground and into rivers at every opportunity
>>714371931press x to awesome is what movie games do
>Really Higgs? Are you going to say that in front of Usada Pekora?
>>714373896Never ever. Sony's not going to make that mistake again. DS2 will be the PS5's Bloodborne.
>>714371215 (OP)I refuse to play a game with hollywood actors' faces
This fucking faggot wants to turn video games into some hollywood crap
>okay that's cool but why is the gameplay not like this tho?????
>turns out it is
lmao
>>714374407which map point is this?
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>>714375672What about Bollywood actors' faces?
>>714371215 (OP)>>714375771I've done his trophy and questline, but how do I do those moves?
every single webm I have seen of this game has been some completely different whacko fucked up random thing all happening in the same engine with the same aesthetics, otherwise I wouldn't even belive its the same game at all
also about half the webms I have seen of this game I would assume are some bizarre AI slop if I didn't know it was kojima behind it
>>714375867near chronobiologist
>>714375924Hold O while holding R2/L2 or both
>>714371215 (OP)This feels like the old Yakuza game
and you know how sometimes you can sort of piece together what a game is about if you look at enough threads and screenshots/videos of it?
no, not this game
I have no idea what it could possibly be about, or even what type of game its supposed to be
>>714376189This. Yakuza's now turn based trash so based Hideo Kojima is taking up the mantle. Just need climax moves.
>>714376201A strand type game
>>714376201You're doing parcel deliveries between some bunkers in Australia. That's all there actually is.
>>714371931I hate it because its way too over the top but pretends to be some deep esoteric and philosophical work of art despite having some god awful cinematography and juvenile script writing like some high school student would write for a play at school. I used to defend Kojima but i think Konami were right. Kojima should be heavily regulated and restricted.
>>714376419I love all the 4th wall breaks in the game
Kept you waiting, huh?
>>714376179can I do it anytime in game and I just didn't realize or are there some requirements
>>714376580as long as you got the scrolls Pizza man gives you for each of the moves you can do it anytime
>>714376631Jesus Christ, what a hack.
>>714376672Is this a hidden cutscene? The fuck lol
>>714377369No, it's part of the main story.
>>714371215 (OP)Looks gay as fuck.
what dogshit costume design and bland environments.
>>714377392How do I not remember this
>>714377552Deserts are often bland. The beige and brown era is back!
>>714377302Diehardman is the goat of both games desu
>>714377771His constant tutorial nagging any time you tried to do anything throughout DS1 was annoying, but he redeemed himself by the end.
>>714377302/v/ is the president
>>714371931Itโs supposed to be both. Kojima wants to present himself as an intellectual but he also wants to have fun and do goofy shit now and then, like the Conan and Pekora cameos. MGSV wasnโt much different. Honestly, this is much better than just having a story that takes itself seriously the entire way through, that shit drags after awhile
>>714377771>>714377302https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O91YcZWcUVY
Still the most kino moment and I can't believe I finally like Diehardman
>>714377746His baby for sure has brain damage and he should just get rid of it now.
>>714371215 (OP)>Press x to start animation and lose control of your character for 3-5 seconds.No thanks.
>>714371215 (OP)>It's treason then
>>714375672Anon, thatโs been a thing since like at least CoD Advanced Warfare
>>714371931it's not video gamey at all.
those animations are sluggish dogshit. it's just more scripted movie slop.
>>714376201Honestly, Death Stranding is a game you have to play yourself to truly understand it. You wonโt be able to fully experience it until you hold the controller yourself (preferably one of those fancy PS5 controllers with that directional rumble thing) and put on your headset
>>714371609>You will give them an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders.
>>714377864For sure, his role in ds2 was fucking peak too
>>714378096>silly as fuck moment that still makes sense in the story and manages to be kinoHow does he do it
>>714378182>he should just get rid of it nowHe does.
>>714376713oh the scrolls! I only got one, I guess I need to lvl him up more
>>714374902You cant even grab crystals from a truck
>>714377864He quickly grew on me. I like his voice and the way he talks down to Sam like heโs his proud father or something. I like when vidya characters care about me. Diehardman is easily one of my favorite niggers in vidya. The only other one I liked was Johnson from Halo but heโs just funny and thatโs it, not much more to him
>>714378558>preferably one of those fancy PS5 controllers with that directional rumble thingDoes that work wirelessly on PC yet? Only thing keeping me from getting one and my DS4 is beginning to drift.
>>714374902Why the fuck did the controls change so much from DS1. They were perfectly fine and everybody was used to them.
>>714372670>Attack the giant enemy robot spider's weak points for massive damage.
>>714379296You can if you have the climbing power gloves equipped
>>714379340Rumble only works wired and in a few sony approved games but you can use it bluetooth just fine
>>714376029Huffing paint is a helluva drug, anon.
Wow that looks even more retarded than I could have imagined.
>>714379436I'm not sure, the controls are terribly overdesigned though, I keep opening up the "change like symbol" menu from spamming likes on structures and picking up empty weapons when I try to aim with the one I just switched to. It's annoying.
>>714379690My DS4 is fully functional with the official adapter, can even use the speaker and headphone jack. I've gotten used to it and refuse to give up those features.
I don't get why Sony won't make an adapter for the Dualsense, or better, release a firmware update for the previous adapter. Seems so backwards with how much they support PC now.
>>714371215 (OP)that move at 0:16 was in Operation Scorpio, a kino among the kino
>>714371215 (OP)i S-ranked the "defeat 30 enemies bare handed" VR mission on Brutal. unfortunately that mission really showed how fucking ass the combat is in a serious brawl.
>>714374407l....la creatividad...
>>714371215 (OP)This looks terrible
>>714373605it makes zero sense and having circle as attack with no way in-game to edit the pre set controls is seriously retarded, I want an update with classic controls so bad
>>714371262Kojima likes movies, so he makes his games just like movies.
>>714381368damn the facial expressions look much better than the first game
>>714381368Imagine what those hands could do....
>>714380825You look terrible
>>714381590Yeah, I thought DS1 had really good models and facial expressions, but DS2 just completely blows it out of the water and now they look really dated.
DS2 is the first time this generation that I've felt a game really looked "next gen".
Remember to say thanks to Nintendo for making this game. Thanks Nintendo!
>>714376672It's almost as if Kojimbo is struggling with repressed homosexuality or something.
>>714371215 (OP)is that Tekken moveset?
>>714382317Dynamo Pictures which was used for DS1 and they'd already started DS2 before Nintendo even bought the company and renamed it. Retard
>>714382001game looks insane
reminder that Kojima literally apologized for this not being good enough
>>714382317Switch 2 release when?
>>714381368looks like my mom
>>714371215 (OP)How did sam learn to do a psycho crusher? Do chiral crystals let you do this.
>>714371215 (OP)I can imagine the kojimbodrone smirking to himself, believing he just btfo all walking simulator accusations.
But in reality, this gameplay is actually press X to awesome. The enemies are just waiting for you to finish the move. Sitting ducks really.
>>714382001I hope that my pc will be able to handle it when it'll come on steam...
>>714383138Same. I'm guessing 3080 will be the bare minimum though.
>>714383109And? You think you're cooler because you press more buttons in your favourite games?
how do i kill the first boss
it has this animation where it "plops" down like it's dead then i blood grenade it and it gets back up
tried with like 25x of those yestarday and couldn't get a kill, is there some sort of button I'm supposed to press??
How exactly do I build roads? there's a road going north east from west fort knot. I go as far as the road goes, but I don't see any terminal that allows me to advance it.
>>714371215 (OP)What's the story with this one? The first one was your dead sister being a god of the apocalypse who's soul was sitting on a beach with dead whales or something, also you play as a grown up test tube baby in a world where deadpeople are nukes(???)
COME HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT
>>714383536Ok I just found the terminal a bit further back, but it says it can't be upgraded further. So it just stops?
>>714383381Just keep shooting the glowing weak point anon. Its not that hard
Blood grenades when downed are good but you can only pop off 2 or 3
>>714371215 (OP)mgsv is kojimas last good game
>>714371215 (OP)Kojima does it again!
Cannot fucking wait to get my hands on the artbook
>>714383713The terminals are halfway between each road segment, but to be honest most days i've played they've all been repaired by someone else already but i managed to build a few the other day and i'm sitting on mountaina of likes
>>714382317>he doesn't know https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTMrI3CWgrc
I think I lucked out with my autism roll on the first game. Everyone loves one part but hates everything else. To me, everything about the first game is charming.
>love walking because itโs the comfiest shit ever
>love hiking because it feels like an actual adventure
>love driving because Iโm an autist obsessed with trucking
>love building roads because I like seeing the logistics aspect of it
>love BT encounters because I like being put on edge now and then
>love MULEs because you can get creative with how you deal with them just like enemies in MGSV
The only thing I avoid is ziplines. I think Iโve only put down like four zip line networks and I always feel like a bum for using them. I donโt get how people can put down a zip line network spanning across the entire map
is there a kino reference to pic related?
>>714383590Literally MGSV. Wasn't there a mission in this exact spot where you had to rescue some animal?
>>714384595>I donโt get how people can put down a zip line network spanning across the entire mapYou absolutely have to if you want to get all the LLL ranks in premium deliveries. You're not getting deliveries across the map in under 5 minutes without them.
>>714371215 (OP)how did they mocap this?
>>714385123Asian people can do this no problem
>>714383573The BB you adopt gets left in a different world and gets raised by dead people and since time flows differently there she comes back as a 20-somethingish year old and has some weird powers and turns out to be the next extinction entity. Higgs tries to use her to bring about the last stranding again as revenge against Sam and Bridget but gets BTFO'd. Sam's wife had a fling with a smuggler(Neil) who snuck braindead pregnant women into America from Mexico to be experimented on and now bridges wants her and Sam's baby for the experiments since he's a repatriate and when bridges catches on that he's told her about the smuggling(she was Neil's therapist) they almost kill Sam's wife, Neil makes a deal with some bridges fucker to save her, they kill Neil, but the baby gets reassigned a different serial number to escape experimentation. Neil takes out his frustration on Sam for getting cucked but is revealed to have been protecting Sam's baby in the other world the whole time at the end of the game. Fragile was revealed to have been dead since she teleported the baby to the other world but her body dragged on until the end of the game, she also gave the baby to the people in the other world who raised her. Some other weird shit happens
>>714383381Just shoot him?
The glowing parts are weak points
>>714371931I wouldn't play it because it's a movie game, but I can appreciate a movie game that doesn't take itself too seriously. Kojimbo may be a bit of a pseud but he does have talent when it comes to cinematography and the like and has shown that he has competency in making real games like the Zone of the Enders and early MG titles (all the way until MGS3), so he isn't a Cuckman tier hack that doesn't like games.
>>714383829This is very MSGV
>>714376525>I hate it because its way too over the top but pretends to be some deep esoteric and philosophical work of artHow can someone play more than one (1) Kojima game and still think this is beyond me
>>714385489Thank you for typing this all out. Honestly, you could of made the whole thing up but it sounds right.
>>714385656This. DS1 was SHIT, but DS2 looks cool. I like the renewed focus on combat and simplifying/speeding up of all the delivery garbage. Will pick it up when it comes to PC because no PS5.
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>>714373971it's much better than the first one gameplay-wise, but it's a real sequel and not a "don't worry, we'll handhold you through the story, you can skip the first one" type of game
Kojima before:
>Serious dramas about war
Kojima now:
>DOOOD LE PRETTY GIRLS ARE DANCING AM I RIGHT???
>>714374407my knees...
they're falling on their own...
>>714375771Peppino man gets better with every scene jesus
>>714385849It sounds like complete batshit but it's presented ingame in a very kino way
>>714385909Monster Energy is gone in DS2. Very sad to see it go.
>>714374407It actually shows you Kojima if you look at it? I thought someone just shopped him in lmao
>>714385982I also hate joy and whimsy
https://x.com/SunhiLegend/status/1940436187476582667
So this is death stranding 2 gameplay...
>>714386016Supposably yor rite.
>>714386313It was already removed in the PC/PS5 version of 1.
>>714385982>serious drama about war>MCs name is a dick joke>also has pretty girls dancing, panty shots, bikini models for the character viewerOh and lets not forget identifying meryl by staring at her ass in MGS1, the most seriously toned game of the series
>>714385656no
>>714385857>DS1 was SHIT, but DS2 looks cool.lol
>>714376285Kojima in 2008
>Serious fistfight between brothersKojima in 2025
>GUITARS!!! AM I RIGHT GUYS??? THEY ARE SO COOL, RIGHT???
I hope the PC release is this year, I have manual saves before each Neil fight and some other parts to replay later when the conversation ramps up again
>>714371721Cool but why does this look like an early access crafting survival asset flip?
>>714386605He already rehashed the MGS4 fist fight in DS1. He needed something different.
>>714386775Because real life looks like an early access crafting survival asset flip.
>>714386605Are you just making shit up to be mad about?
>>714371215 (OP)The only thing this walking sim did was make me wish Star Citizen wasnโt a giant fucking scam. Being an Amazon delivery boy would be so much more fun there.
>>714376631Imagine if Snake killed The Boss and she said "It's like you're Bugs Bunny and I'm Daffy Duck".
Thank God there was someone slapping Kojumbo on the noggin when he got too autistic back then.
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>>714386778It's basically backwards. DS1 was the MGS4 fight and DS2 is the MGS1 fight (which is surprisingly memoryholed and never brought up by MGS fans)
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Is the Tsuchinoko in the game?
>>714387139Honestly if MGS3 remake was just unhinged Kojima with all the cut ideas like a bossfght that lasts a week I would buy it in a heartbeat
>>714387139wdym? I love his unbridled autism
>>714375281yeah but this is actually awesome
>>714387527No, its a movie waiting for you to press play.
SAY THE LINE NORMAN
SAY IT
>K-K...KONPEKO!
>>714375771This time he is prepared. Feds ain't gonna stand a chance now.
>>714382725damn, that's really imperssive, hopefully they make an actual game with this
you unlock both Higgs masks after completing the game
>>714387843>50 hour movie when most directors can barely go over 2he's unstoppable!
>>714379992I hope you didn't overpay there. Any regular USB stick for Bluetooth under 10 bucks does the same job (and more).
>>714388628It was $20 when I bought it, Sony was selling them as a promotion for their game streaming service.
Normal Bluetooth adapters have more latency (the Sony adapter is 2.4GHz) and don't support audio.
Now they go for insane prices because they're discontinued, but for $20, it was definitely worth it over a $10 Bluetooth adapter.
oh wowzers, is that SCUD from BLADE?!
>>714388865That looks cool
>>714389084really brings out the asian in Norman Reedus
>>714389214Like a bad ass baby-weilding samurai deliveryman
>>714385820I have played all MGS games, retard. You are literally media illiterate and uncultured, thatโs why you think ceinge worthy shit like this is peak fiction and artistic marvels
>>714389964Don't be so serious anon
>kept you waiting huh
>it ain't over yet
>>714384684DS2 takes a lot from MGSV to a point of almost being a spiritual successor
The snowy mountain area is incredible in this game. Naturally I ditched the vehicles for my first trek to each new prepper, had an intense blizzard throughout most of my trek to that first snowy mountain prepper. As I was keep on keeping on through the final 500 metres and the prepper was in sight the blizzard started to clear and night time descended. The colors of the night sky and the look of the snow, the sense of scale when you angled to camera to look down, Sam barely able to keep on going as his stamina was almost gone, ready to collapse at the front door of the prepper, absolute pure kino.
>>714371609looks better than Gunn's Superman
>>714383590i was surprised it had a hitbox
>>714384010stop compressing so much. 20 seconds max will give you great visual results while still staying under 4mb limit.
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>>714391950>beige>brown>bloomMGS4bros, we are SO back. Return of the golden era!
I love this game so much. I can't stop playing it.
I'm a completionwhore so I was doing standard orders way too long and eventually just said fuck it and now I'm speeding through the main story and saving the 5 staring for later, the game is so fucking long holy shit
>>714392183Return of the piss era.
Do you get more likes/experience from delivering cargo on foot as opposed to vehicles (tricruiser/off-roader/monorail)? I know you get a different grade from delivering via the magellan but I'm talking about the other vehicles
I just can't do this shit no more.
>>714394490demoralized porter
>>714394490Delivering at night looks hard. Cannot see shit. Shouldn't Sam at least get a head lamp?
>>714394919Your odradek can shine a little light, but I never really use it.
>>714375771>him putting the pizza back in the box>him casually closing the fridge doors>shoving the spatula into the oven and doing that little 'look at the bottom' move>giving the pizza to sam and cutting itevery fucking moment in this scene is pure gold, I want an entire movie directed by Kojima
>>714391649>>714391649I was enjoying the game a lot but something clicked harder when I had to delivery 200lbs of bullshit from the Animal Shelter to the West Observatory out of the network. In the way was a camp so I had got out my truck and checked out the area. Rappelled down cliffs, placing ladders up to a vantage point and did recon, then waited until night to take out the guards only in the way. That last climb up the anchor at night in the rain, I thought I was Snake in the opening of Ground Zeroes. After doing all that I got to the objective unloading everything into the carrier with the in-game hands.
Honestly the only thing holding this game back from being a masterpiece is really just that its too goddamn easy, the first game had the same problem and its not better here. I get that they're worried about making an AAA game too "annoying" but the game really shines the rare few times it actually puts the screws on you. My private lockers are absolutely packed with shit because I barely need to use all the resources and game mechanics the game provides you
>>714377369yes, you have to sleep next to a coffin
>>714383138>>714383318If they don't force gaytracing on PC the specs will be reasonable
>>714395369>I want an entire movie directed by KojimaPretty sure it's all thanks to the action director, yuji shimomura (the DMC and Bayo cutscenes guy)
>>714395759Doesn't help that Kojima is contracted with sony and they're too bitchmade to have games on their console that are challenging to players since they want to appeal to such a wide range of people
>>714395759shame, I played the first game on hard and I really disliked how easy it was. I'm not a hardcore gamer or anything but when the challenge is too braindead some of the mechanics don't get to shine and the game as a whole can get boring
>>714396230>you have to sleep next to a coffinIs that the coffin from the mission where you go to pick it up?
>>714371215 (OP)he stole this from the walking dead
>>714396561The coffins you can fabricate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r39_xQNpYh4
>>714396678This. Blatant copyright theft. AMC should sue.
>>714392951ANSWER DAMN IT
>>714386775because it's horribly compressed and low resolution you dumb little gay fuck?
>>714397194>gay fuckHey everyone! This anon wants a gay fuck!!! Ha ahaha hahaha hahaha ha
>>714371215 (OP)Is he like Neo from the Matrix but from the Beach instead?
>>714396789>hehehe... shhh >today we're gonna prank Sam by kissing him>that will show him!
>>714396331>yuji shimomura (the DMC and Bayo cutscenes guy)Legend. Did he work on other titles?
>>714381368Leah Seydoux will never marry and have a family with me. Why even live?
>>714397853He also worked on MGSV
>>714397853Don't think he did any other games, mostly some live action movies and tv series, just look him up on imdb
>watch this movie where a narcissistic hack brings celebrity culture to videogames
nah
>>714376573I know it's like heckin deadpoolerino man I love post irony!
>>714371721city escape did it better
>>714381585>O.D. teaserItโs going to suck isnโt it?
How do I get these parts online? No story quests, and the right hand side I've already got the mine running but there's nothing else there.
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>>714399102Might help if I post the image.
>>714371215 (OP)I would but it's not on PC. Do you think we'll get a Christmas release?
>>714371215 (OP)this reminds me of Frank West's moves in dead rising. looks like fun.
>>714398686>I'm a contrarion faggot who has a fetish for being an insufferable cunt on 4chan!
>>714371215 (OP)bruh you have to put in a secret cheat code before you're allowed to play the game you bought lol
>>714400191>if you don't like movie games and celebrity worship which is coated in post-irony because the narrative can't hold up on it's own you must be a contrarian.Ok retard.
>>714400210Is this to make sure people don't accidentally use lethal bullets? In DS1 you just switched the ammo to actual bullets and then killed people, but it lowers your reputation and you have to deal with the bodies so almost nobody did. There's basically no difference between knocking out and killing because even killing them, they still come back later.
>>714400502>they still come back laterNot if you leave one survivor, making dealing with camps much easier.
>>714400210deadass unc needs to activate the Konami code to play this """""""""""""""game"""""""""""""" fr ohio rizz
>>714400419Yes. Do you like being such a miserable faggot about everything?
>oh noeyyy!!!! people are enjoying le game so I must spread misery and faggotry to validate my existence11!!!!!Rope.
>>714371745the controls are pretty annoying, I appreciate theres some sluggishness to it but theres 5 different contextual actions for each button. The one that annoys me most is when I'm trying to do the L2+R2+X skip animation but it defaults to the shoulder bash, which is supposed to be done using O
>>714400869I don't give a shit if you enjoy trash made for people that don't like videogames. I'm allowed to make fun of your shit taste and your delusions of having a parasocial relationship with a hack who is propped up by sucking Hollywood's dick every chance he gets.
>>714391657Good morning, sir!
>>714400502It's a minor story detail that instead of there being separate lethal and non-lethal guns/ammo like before, there's just Multipurpose guns that automatically change ammo type based on your target. Kinda similar in function to the gun IDs and lockouts in MGS4.
Eventually the bandits start firing lethal ammo and your crew is like "how did they bypass the lockouts??" and after linking up one guy he sends you an email with a secret code he says to try using, which activates lethal fire mode, and there are some other details that indicate he's the one that's been distributing weapons to the local bandits, but dealing with this issue is an optional side mission.
>>714401149>makes assumptions about a random person from literally two posts on a thread about a game he doesn't like>calls me delusionallol
>>714371215 (OP)I'll wait for the pc port
>>714401217>Eventually the bandits start firing lethal ammo and your crew is like "how did they bypass the lockouts??"That's retarded.
>>714401257Yes, I can make that assumption because you got extremely butthurt about remarking how Kojima's "4th wall break" isn't clever and it's just mimicking Deadpool.
You are getting upset because not everyone likes your uninspired Hollywood lol so randumb experience.
>>714401498>fourth wall breaks are le mimicking le deadpool!!!!Fuck off you brainrotted spastic
>>714401626Yes, because 4th wall break as a narrative medium doesn't consist of just telling the audience >look, I'm literally looking towards you and nodding, yes we're totally self aware!
It's low grasping fruit to make the audience feel in the know without making any effort.
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>>714402009Yeah, the obviousness is pretty jarring. Like in DS1, the only 4th wall break I remember was Higgs commenting on the player getting tired of the grind and wanting a boss battle/game over, but he didn't wink at the camera as he said it. And it could easily be construed as him just being weird (he uses game lingo a lot) and still talking to Sam.
The cutscenes and dialogue are much better in this game than DS1 imo, it still has that Kojimaism where people talk like autistic robots but its more charming than annoying in this game, and they don't repeat themselves as much because of the corpus. I like Sam more too, he feels more like a lovable stoic weirdo in this game, while in the first one he barely felt like a character. Game just feels a bit more playful and lighthearted overall
Snake, put your controller on the floor.
>>714402546NO BTS, NO VOIDOUTS, NO BULL-SHIT!
JUST A GOOD OLD FASHIONED BOSSFIGHT
STICK VS ROPE
GUN VS STRAND
ONE MORE ENDING BEFORE THE END
ONE LAST GAME OVER
Would nu-/v/ call him reddit?
>>714404532he's a freemason , that makes him reddit
>>714404532literally deadpool ripoff
>>714405035Metal Gear was Marvel slop all along.... its joever
I really hate how challengeless they made ds2... I feel like ive spent the last 15 hours just driving from point to point with basically 0 friction.
>>714388865Just unlocked this mask, very cool
>>714405567There really isn't as much challenge as there was in the first game. I took so many hits from giant ghost mechs that I expected to completely BTFO me but I got back up with a quarter of my health bar gone. The terrorists in 1 did more damage to me and actually made me retreat a good few times.
>>714405883all I wanted from ds2 was weather and more challenge/obstacles to get around : (
Someone post the Higgs-Reedus sex scene.
>>714407075https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC51eIxMGHc
>>714371721>OMG YOU CAN MOVE AT 30 MPH THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY
>>714407718On a coffin that burns corpses and turns you gay if you rest near it nonetheless
Death Stranding Stylish Action spin-off when? The cool as fuck setting and aesthetics are begging for it.
There're a lot more NPC porters in this game compared to the 1st one.
>river at the dowser that merges into one from two streams
>crossing a bridge after the merge
>see a lone NPC porter on the piece of land that is surrounded by the two streams before the merge
>Sam waves at him and says hi
>porterman jumps for joy and waves with both his arms
Soul
SOUL
>>714408032>MGR2>Higgs ends up in the Metal Gear universe >pure entertainment ensues
>reach The Motherhood
>have to trek all the way back to F2 for the next order
>a ton of new standard orders that can be delivered to all the preppers in-between Motherhood and F2
>load up floating carriers and have a multi hour long huge trek picking up new orders at each prepper as I make my way to F2 doing aid requests along the way
It's frankly pure kino and there's no other experience like it.
I wonder if Physint will be an open world too.
>>714408510I bet there is a porter fan club where they gather and talk about their encounters with Sam, the legendary immortal porter
>>714410565kek, it's the little things like this that just make Kojima games feel so much more polished and alive.
>>714410230Didn't this setting have some weird gimmick about a spontaneous death magic nuke blowing up if people touch each other?
>>714410680Coming into contact with a dead person blows the dead person up like a nuke. Alive people can still interact and touch, but that's the reason so many choose to live in isolated bunkers.
>>714410680If BTs touch them
Sam is more resilient because of being a repatriate so they have to eat him to trigger a voidout
>>714371372>i'd rather play a tranny game for 900 hoursyou do you
>>714371215 (OP)Death Stranding 2 has actual combat this time? Is it any good? MGSV for all its faults and shortcomings, had GOD tier gameplay. Does it scratch a similar itch?
>>714411863its basically mgsv lite
>>714371215 (OP)bollywood tier "gameplay"
I think I might be around halfway through the game, maybe a little less. 40 hours in.
First couple of chapters I was feeling like Death Stranding 1 was a little bit better, but now it's turning and I'm starting to feel like 2 might end up being better if it keeps on improving.
>>714412060TOTAL AMELIE DESTRUCTION
I dropped 1 after shortly getting to the snowy area. Just got burnt out from it's slow pacing. Not a bad game just didn't get it's hooks in me. Should I finish 1 before 2? Would 2 engage me more than 1?
>>714371215 (OP)I will!
...When it comes to Steam...
>>7144118631 had actual combat too.
2's is a bit improved, but not like a huge amount.
The stealth and shooting mechanics are still nowhere near MGSV's imo, but they are slightly improved over the first games.
Melee combat is the most fun imo.
It does scratch kind of a similar itch to MGSV, but just don't expect the stealth and shooting mechanics to be on the same level.
There's a ton of gadgets and tools that are fun to use so infiltrating and taking out bases can still be fun and creative.
>>714412738The secret to snow areas is to set up a zipline net.
>>714412738>Should I finish 1 before 2?Yes, but I'm only saying this because I like the first game a lot.
>Would 2 engage me more than 1?In my personal opinion I don't think there would be much of a difference for you.
2 does start much faster and gets you into the core of the gameplay quicker than the 1st game, but on the whole the game is still very very similar to 1 and the pacing is also quite similar to 1. I think 2 might have more important story moments spread out a bit more evenly throughout the game than 1, but the pacing is basically the same aside from the quick intro.
>>714371215 (OP)terrible choice for animations
>>714371721the clunkiness of the landing is so off putting
>>714379634>it's okay when other games do the exact same thing>BUT THIS TIME ITS GONE TOO FAR
>>714376285>CROSSING COCKS ANS TICKLING THEIR BALLS SEEING WHO CAN RESIST THE URGE TO FUCKING CUM FIRSTThis game is so fucking gay.
>>714378413TIS THE SEASON THEN
>>714413337Canonically it is gay as fuck yes, the games have zero shame about it
>>714375771That's what I imagined Yakuza was like
>>714371215 (OP)>Play Death Stranding 2i cant its not on PC
The more I see of 2 the less I want to play it.
>>714371215 (OP)WHERES THE FUCKING PC PORT KOJIMA
>>714413969Uhhโฆ itโs down there somewhere, let me take another look
t what point did kojimbo become normieslop?
>>714414350when you showed up
>>714374407a humble man by any stretch of the imagination for sure.
>>714371215 (OP)You're kidding me, right? BTโs fights in DS1 were an absolute disgrace, sloppy animations, laughable hit detection, and AI so broken it might as well have been asleep at the controller! Iโve seen indie titles with zero budget put together more coherent combat mechanics. It was honestly insulting to sit through.
So you'd hope, pray, that the developers pulled themselves together for the sequel. Did they learn? Did they fix that mess?
>>714371215 (OP)I won't play garbage and neither should you.
>>714414350normies hate it and can't play it properly
>>714414350since metal gear solid you fucking tourist
>>714414350the transition from metal gear to metal gear solid
Honestly kino
https://youtu.be/_bhEa2hF6Y4?list=RD_bhEa2hF6Y4
>>714411359He said he doesn't want to play Piss Sitting anon. You got your terms mixed up.
>>714399201The one on the left is Mr Impossible and lost cargo for him spawns on those floating ice things
>>714371215 (OP)death stranding 1 is better
>>714416362I know. But he also said he'd rather play a tranny game for 900 hours.
>>714416779You zoomer fucks truely only got one rebuttal, huh ?
>>714371215 (OP)no thanks I don't like watching 40 hours of cutscenes like a snoydrone goyslave
>>714417418kek!!!!! you got them so heckin good anon chungus keanu!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>714416886Sam the rodent man
>>714416779But he didn't say he wanted to play Piss Sitting for 900 hours anon.
>>714417207You are a tranny because your woman mentality is making you incessantly bitch about a game you don't play, for subjective reasons you never elaborate on in the first place.
>>714371215 (OP)It's insane how good this game is. Like when I played the first it was interesting but tedious and I told myself I probably wouldn't play a sequel. I bought it anyway and they took everything that made the game shit in the first one, removed it, dialed up the action and it's so much fun. I can't remember the last time I had this much fun playing a single player game
>>714375771Kek. Why is Mamoru Oshii a fung fu pizza maker?
>>714371215 (OP)>Neil listen, I know you have PTSD from commiting crimes against humanity, but Im exploiting your childhood trauma and guilt to make you lick Sam's cum from my pussy
>>714418175Yes, correct. He said he would rather play a tranny game for 900 hours, implying that he touches kids.
>>714418813He loves vidya apparently all he does these days is play modded Fallout 4
>game gets wackier and wackier
>Don't think it can be wackier
>'Sam when you weaken BTs throw this not pokeball at them to catch them and train them and use them against other BTs"
>game about hiking
>wants you to do everything but walk
Vehicles ruined the first game and this doubled down on it and made it even worse
>>714371262>doing nothingYou didn't see their MASSIVE FARTS?
I can't
Not on PC yet
Stop reminding me
>>714418903But he didn't say he's gonna play Piss Sitting for 900 hours, made by a kid touching Jap obsessed with kid touching troons. What are you smoking anon? Be honest.
>>714419115Every area should have a side quest where you disable a vehicle damper or something to let you use vehicles in the area OR vehicles just die when you get off the network
>>714419115>not ignoring everything and just taking the chuddies for a walkworks for me
>>714418954Maybe that's for a best, the anime he's had his name attached to recently have not been very good, in my opinion. Maybe Kojima will get him involved in game development.
>>714381585bazz edit when
>>714419115That is like saying MGSV is about crawling
You can tell Kojima played Red Dead Redemption and was obsessed with the part where you go to Mexico taking a long walk and it pans out and plays music since he over uses that shit
What does likes do? I am still confused about that? I can get buffs that give more likes faster or some shit but don't understand why you need them? When I connect with another player what does that do?
Sam, the DHV Magellan has a tummy ache and can't fast travel.
This game feels like an autism simulator. Everyone keeps give you over exaggerated praise and your mommy calls you every mission to come home and bathe
>>714420545Sam, it's been awhile since you've had a proper shower.
Wahoo, bet it feels good to be nice and clean again
>>714371215 (OP)>tranny>face scanning memeI honestly don't know which one is worse.
>>714371215 (OP)why did kojimbo go all out jap slop for the sequel?
the first one had a sense of atmosphere and consistency while it took itself seriously
>>714376672are ya winning son.png
>>714371215 (OP)did he just psycho-crusher that dude?
This game single handily proves that western developers are going out of their way to make woman ugly in their games
>>714420545Well yeah, Sam is autistic so why wouldn't it be an autism sim
>>714374407this nigga for real based as hell
>>714371215 (OP)The first one was some gay package delivery mailman simulator. Why would anyone want more? How did that shitstain even get green lit for a sequel? Kojimbo is a hack and firing him was the smartest decision Konami ever made.
>>714421681peak fashion statement in post-stranding society
>>714420545All the unapologetic positivity and everyone being so supportive is cute and soulful though, there's too much cynical misery porn in modern entertainment
>>714371215 (OP)Mfw I found out the Night Monorail was a real thing in the lore and I figured it was just a bad glitch
i liked death stranding 1 but it felt like jankslop most of the time with people cobbling together pieces of different games. i hated the stealth thing and the whole bb system having to avoid those stupid ghosts. if any of that is in the new game i can't play it
>>714419115This is because you misunderstood the premise of the game.
It's not about hiking. Hiking is something that you can do if you want to, but the game is at its most fundamental level about moving from point A to point B contextualized through the action of delivering cargo.
Then the game gives you a variety of different options to perform this action.
>>714420993There is no tranny in this game.
That's the other game he is making, OD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q_OsaftT04&t=26s
>>714423163You still have to avoid ghosts sometimes, but it's FAR less prevalent in this game.
In my 43 hours so far I have barely encountered any outside of a couple, not even a handful, of scripted encounters with them.
is it true that getting 5-star ratings from preppers is way more grindy and tedious in this one?
>>714423880Not at all. Getting 5 star ratings from preppers in 2 is the same as getting them in 1.
Some will be super easy to get, some will take a bit more and then there are some preppers that will want a lot.
Then there are some that will grind to a halt until you do some story order, and then it will level up normally again.
The rate at which you get 5 stars feels identical to 1 in my experience.
>>714423607>That's the other game he is making, ODNot anymore. It was cancelled by Microsoft.
>>714424107It wasn't. That's just a rumor so far with no real merit to it yet.
KojiPro also owns the IP so they can find another publisher to do it if Phil is too retarded.
>>714423880I reached my first 5 rank just by playing normally and I haven't finished the game yet, I think delivering lost cargo is incredibly important to level quicker, always check shared lockers and pick up lost packages on the way
>>714423743thanks ill probably give it a shot then
>>714424105You're not able to check which facilities have specific orders for others in this one so it's a lot more going back and forth between shelters
>>714371721Turtle Power, dude!
>>714423880There's some shelters like The Adventurer who take a ridiculous amount of likes to level up but it's mostly fine in comparison to the first game
>>714419357That's not how you spell Pedomorph, anon. Are you illiterate?
>>714421343>Why would anyone want more?Because it was unique and surprisingly fun. Not buying a PS5 for one game though, hopefully PC release gets announced soon.
You'd think /v/ would be calling the game based because the Elder was anti-trump in the first game but I guess it's not on PC or shitch deuce so that takes precedent
>WE ALL HAD HER SAM
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>714425786I always knew /v/ was actually /resetera/.
ds1
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>>714421343>How did that shitstain even get green lit for a sequelBecause Kojima's the boss of the studio and the first game made so much money they could fund 3 whole new games with it and then some.
>>714421343Because that first game made so much money it paid for itself and fully funded this games development
You lost the game
>>714371721>IM GONNA SHOW YOU SONIC SPEED
>>714425879BUT I MARRIED HER!
>>714425879"But you wanted to marry her knowing I was fucking her already"
>>714425879>>714426108Sam deserved to get cucked in all honesty. Because these games have shown us that Sam does not give two shits about his loved ones.
>>714426270Get off the computer Neil
>>714426108>>714426206>>714426360Is Lucy the worst Therapist ever?
>>714426650>TherapistJust when I thought this game couldn't get any gayer.
>>714426650At least she's not the therapist from the Sopranos
>>714426650Or maybe sheโs the best therapist ever? She gets straight to the root of the problem by curing lonely menโs depression using her coochie
>>714427013Only if they look good
>playstation progress meter thing says I'm 50% through the game
>40 hours played
>going on 2 week vacation saturday
>almost no time to play tomorrow
Strand type bros... please keep my structures in good shape :,)
>>714401217Well I neverโฆ the goddamn fingerprint lock actually works on this thing. You know I just thought of an interesting experiment to try with this gun? Letโs see if it still recognizes my fingerprints. Donโt worry if the gun goes off, you arenโt gonna know fuck all about it.
>>714371215 (OP)Are there any good options to cover Sam's face? I don't like the way he looks and in the first game you just get these stupid carbon fiber glasses that make you look like Redneck Batman.
>>714376672>know nothing about this shit>see thishuh?
>>714427536Iโm 30 hours in and still on episode 3. I have become a MULE.
>Kojima being Kojima with wacky anime stuff
>old /v/ would have loved it
>nu-/v/ hates Kojima and wants everything super serious
>>714428571nu/v/ hates everything.
anything that is liked or gets popular? have to hate it, it's the nu/v/ insincerity rule.
Death Stranding 2 got great reviews so nu/v/ has to hate it. Every big game that gets some level of attention is guaranteed to get some resident schizo shitposter or two latching on to it for a little while at least.
>>714371215 (OP)to much pretentious and obnoxious faggy shit in the game
just stop
>>714429223There was one earlier who was having an absolute meltdown over a fourth wall break
>everyone talking about how theyโre getting 50k likes
>build road
>my name is on it
>no likes in 24 hours
What am I doing wrong bros
>>714429867Please respond
>>714430473Keep building roads bro. You'll get some eventually. I also have some roads with very few likes, but then some with tons.
>>714430721Thanks man I guess Iโll keep on keeping on
>song triggers when you're like 400m close to the destination
Come on
Well looks like I'm gonna reload my save from 3 hours ago. Curse the lying anon faggot who told me it was just going to be a little while until I get the Magellan back after taking Rainy to the Motherhood. Motherfucker it's the end of the damn game. Dollman was right.
The scale of both of these games is weird. Youโre being told youโre connecting entire continents but the maps are extremely small.
>>714431697Just think of it like traversing the world map in an older FF game.
I just got the level 2 PCC
I havent even used the level 1 PCC yet...
>>714371215 (OP)Kojima really dropped off hard without metal gear to carry him huh
>>714379436Probably changed just so they would feel more "new". Don't get the change either it's so stupid.
>>714431862You sound like a konami shill.
>>714429867Connect some ziplines to other ziplines in convenient spots, find some local porters and spam them with likes, donate materials to other structures until they're level 3
>>714431830Level 1 PCC is useless desu
I just hit chapter 3, should I just keep grinding out Mexico? Got a silenced pistol from there so I'm inclined to do so
>>714383008Can you say hi to your mom from me?
>>714432135Bro your timefall shelters? Also never hurts to put down a generator or postbox in the hopes other people upgrade and use it.
>>714432562Yes. Farm all the upgrade mats and store them in the magellan for the structures in straya
>>714416016NTA but metal gear is one of the most well known known and liked series. There's no way it isn't reddit fans wise.
>>714432576Every time I find a useful spot for something thereโs some faggot that already put one up that had 100k likes.
>>714432792Will do thank you
>>714431697The death stranding made the world stupid
>>714432882Mostly true but there are still spots at times. You can always build something next to it that isn't already there or delete it from your map and build your own.
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>>714431697This. DS1's map is 12 miles across all 3 regions.
The real US is 2700 miles. Who does Kojima think he's fooling?
>THAT'S THE LAST OF THE CARGO
>LET'S HEAD TO OUR DESTINAYSCHUN AND MAKE THE DELIVERY
someone please just make it fucking stop.....
>>714433124Is it because the rest of the landmasses were destroyed in voidouts?
>>714433369I had so much hope for this character from what was shown. He's such an annoying little nigger. At least his backstory is somewhat interesting.
>>714433124The timefall residue in the air makes everyone move much faster. The atoms moving faster means they're all bigger too. Sam is actually 1300 feet tall. This is why vehicles handle poorly, the atoms in the wheels move so fast quantum mechanics comes into play and they get entangled with rocks. This is also why mules have such slow reaction times. Sam's connection to the beach means his reaction time is sped up so he can react faster than everyone else. This was revealed to me in a dream.
Thereโs 2 things Kojima fucked up on in the sequel
>have at least ONE exploitable knot city where you can see how they live
>enemies that dynamically roam the map to keep you on your toes
>>714371262What the fuck happened to proper enemy design in games
>>714433550I was interested in him at the start but after the constant yapping and loading screen dialogue when you "talk" to him in Sam's room on the magellan I gave up on him completely. He's my least favourite character in the whole franchise now.
>>714433747The corpus does at least give a reason you never go in a knot city. Partly it's to minimize chiral contamination, and partly most residents are kept in the dark about how things are outside to keep them from trying to leave or travel to minimize voidouts and unrest
>>714433747>>have at least ONE exploitable knot city where you can see how they liveI wanted this so bad too. Even if it's just in a cutscenes I would've been happy.
>>enemies that dynamically roam the map to keep you on your toesThis is the nr1 thing I wanted. Having fixed BT and mule areas mixed with a couple that move would've made the gameplay loop so much better.
Another thing I really was expecting that baby Lou actually stayed with you for majority of the game and not 10mins.
All Kojima had to do was not kill Fragile and let her and Sam become a very cute family with their daughter Lou in the end.
>>714434041Baby Lou wouldn't survive the first time I eat shit off a cliff.
>>714425950News to me. All I remember was /v/ saying how much it sucked and how badly it flopped.
>>714435065> /v/ sayingThere's your problem
jesus that is some assassin's creed tier garbage
>>714432879If you're looking for a "small, mostly exclusive group" experience, you should try tranny marxism.
>>714435065Basically, anything /v/ says the exact opposite is true. No exceptions. That's why I am avoiding E33.
>>714376672Is this the same guy with the cool golden skull mask or someone else because he looks so gross with the Amelie hair and necklace. I'm sure it's intentionally perverse.
>>714436970It's the same guy but there's a reason he looks that way
He got left on a beach for like 10,000 years just doing nothing but wandering and he went batshit
I just can't see the appeal. I've watched a lot of videos on the first and 2nd now. Looks like 90% of the time you're just delivering packages with some "haha so weird le so random xD" cutscenes in between. Ballerina nigger really exposed some of you fucks for being the most normie consoomers there are.
>>714388865the amount of cool collab cosmetic shit is gonna expand thats going to be in the game by the time the directors cut comes out on PC is gonna be great
>>714431697potential explanation is that timefall fucked everything up
that's why npcs are surprised when sam makes a "huge" journey for them when for sam and the player it was a afew hundred meters
>>714437921>potential explanation is that timefall fucked everything upthere's a giant himalayan tier mountain range in the middle of australia and the east coast of the US got transmogrified into Iceland, ofc timefall is fucking shit up
>>714437715The story and cutscenes are weird and random, but that's just typical Kojima. The delivery gameplay is better to actually play than it looks can be stressful, cathartic, or relaxing.
Looking forward to 2's PC release.
Any niggas further in the story, do we get rest room drinks that arent Drawbridge(tm) brand green tea? I unironically miss the Monster and Timefall Beer from 1...
>>714438186yes but in many ways
perhaps I should've worded my post to say that timefall is in fact the explanation for it but that said I don't think it was ever confirmed in the game
>>714437715> The game is too weird!> The game is too normie! > It's a walking sim!> You just drive around!> Nothing but cutscenes!> You spend too long walking!> It takes itself too seriously!> It's too silly!Why get so angry about a game you don't play that by your own account no one is buying?
I wish we could connect Spotify through the chiral network so I could listen to the first soundtrack instead. Low roar fell off and Iโm tired of hearing โJIBBER JABBER JIBBER JABBER ABLOOO BLOOโ
got all the roads and monorails done now, gonna miss all the 'openness'
>>714438489>the game is too weird>the game is too normie>its a walking sim>nothing but shitty cutscenes>you spend too long walking>it takes itself too seriously>its too sillyYes. All of these things are simultaneously true. If this were made by a western developer you'd be yelling slop right now.
>>714438295>that's just typical KojimaWhy does this fucker always get a pass?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcJepz3QW0
>>714438932>>714439074Just buy a ps5 man. They arenโt that expensive. You too can enjoy death stranding 2!
fine, i'm gonna buy a game console after like 10 years of only pc gaming
i can't for the pc port, it's at least a year from now.
>>714439168You can enjoy gta vi too :^)
>>714439168>it's at least a year from nowDS1 was only 7 months. DS2 could be even sooner.
>>714439168nice try sony but I'm not buying your gaystation
>playing Kojima games on pc
I canโt think of anything more soulless
>>714439273oh yeah i guess but i've never been as excited as everyone else for that game, i don't think it will be better than rdr2
>>714439337i literally cannot wait anymore, i'm getting a ps5 when i get paid
>thread devolves after a few anons realizing they're the only ones praising the game
Always love to see it.
>>714439495what's the difference?
>>714439621I think you have things twisted, anon. /v/ is the only ones shitting on the game. And even then, its just a few pedophiles.
>>714371215 (OP)I'd love to but I still can't justify buying a PS5 for 3 games
>>714439896Strangely enough, I haven't even heard it mentioned outside of /v/. Legitimately asking, how were the sales?
>>714440061>I haven't even heard it mentioned outside of /v/.Too busy playing it.
>>714440061Cursory google says 1.4 million physical copies as of the first week
>>714439168>cant wait 6 months retard
>>714376419No More Heroes did this in what.... 2007?
>>714440316Jfc it really is true. Content doesn't matter, just attach a 2 to the title or give it some retard celebrity name like Kojimbo and it sells.
>>714440586I bought the game because I enjoyed playing the previous game.
Playing Death Stranding 1. Like it so far, but only a few characters are kind of lacking. Sam is way too chuuni for an old man but he's not the worst, it's people like Mama and Heartman who are forgettable and lame and make me wonder if they're just friends with Kojima who got a nepo role, kind of like the Japanese girl who marries the junk dealer.
>>714398686Hey bro the hating on everything era is over, it's okay to find silly things funny again.
>entire game is about how evil AIPAC is
What did Kojima mean by this
>>714425879So what's this guy's story? Is he notSnake?
>>714438716You have shit taste im afraid
>>714440586The content is why I bought the game
200 something hours in DS1 btw
>>714441495To each their own I guess. I am trying, I just can't see it. Its always just deliveries and preparing deliveries, then some basic shooting, then some random vtuber or some fat black ballerina dancing on screen. I'm still convinced if this weren't released by kojima it wouldn't be well received at all.
>>714442301>I'm still convinced if this weren't released by kojima it wouldn't be well received at all.Almost as if concepts and ideas arent universal objects that would be the same if implemented by people of lesser talents. and something that would be awful shlock in the hands of a Niel Druckmann is ludokino in the hands of a Kojima.
>>714442603Are you retarded? The point is it could be the same product but slap Niel's faggy name on their instead of Kojimbo's chink name and suddenly you wouldn't like it as much.
>>714441061When I unlocked the secret Free Palestine shirt I clapped
>>714443435"exactly the same game, but made by someone else" is a false premise because druckmann would never be able to make the same game, or if in this other universe he was making all of kojima's games instead of his own bad games then his name would obviously not be disliked in the first place