>A worm crawled up my arm and rested on my neck. When he whispered into my ear, I felt a tingle... He told me how to make a weapon to help us against our enemies. And here's the thing... it's made of worms... it even fires worms... but it stings like you wouldn't believe.

>>714460832 (OP)
He left out
>It also fucking blows
Skip exotic gang. Except just for novelty.

>>714460832 (OP)
>And the most diabolical part? It requires a fucking ridiculous investment of Modules and it sucks dick

>>714461096
typical corporate product baka

GLORY TO THE MANY
I AM A VOICE IN THEIR CHOIR

How do I make an OSA build good? This is my first time trying it over Marines and Navy.

remaster is alright but I wouldn't pay 30 bucks especially if I already had ss2 in my account for 15 years

>>714462343
Yeah the price is way to high. I had fun with it though. They need to add more to it though. Controller should have a quick hypo hotbar and it still needs scalable UI and FOV. Something that is nice is having real combat animations for weapons. They always felt weirdly static in the original.

Honestly wtf was his deal?

>>714462541
a ruthless former russian mob turned corporate ceo, what could go wrong?

>>714462895
Would russia still be this retarded in 2100?
Nevermind I know the answer...

Damnit I want to play and finish the first game but I forgot to .zip my mods before leaving with my laptop so I can't load my save properly.

>>714460969
>Skip exotic gang
For me it's the brain orb.

>>714463048
are there even any mod for the first game?

>>714463076
I always imagined someone grabbed that thing and all my veins come out with it

>>714463203
Like 2. For awhile SS1 didn't have any modding shit besides the easy stuff like forced mouselook from SS portable. But now that Nightdive gave out the source code after the enhanced edition dropped we might see more mods for the original game.

they added some lgbt audio logs hinting at shoden being an MtF AI (quote "you will call me by my correct pronouns, insect!") and now the many have dialogues about "we must live in unity, do not let the flesh divide us like the wall back on earth" (a thinly veiled reference to the USA-Mexico border wall)

I'll stick to the og free version + custom mods

>>714463203
Yeah, pretty good amount on Nexus. Not all of them work on 1.2 but most do. I'm running about 20 different mods and there's no conflicts.
Some are just visual tweaks, like disabling the ambient red glow lighting so dark areas are actually DARK. And speeding up enemies 50% and power stations 60 minute cooldown time.
Probably some other ones I'm forgetting, but it adds a lot of much-needed challenge and horror.

>>714463345
Retard. The original floppy disk version of SS1 had Shodan be He or It.

I know the chinks have own the rights to ss3 but i'd like to see it made with the framework of the ss1 remake
wish they would fix some lingering issues with the remake too but it's been over a year since it was patched

>>714463673
Honestly I wonder if Nightdive could pull an Activision and just give it a subtitle under System Shock 2. Like MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries

>>714463345
Proofs?

>>714463345
are you sure they are talking about the us-mexico wall, which isn't complete still and barely does its job and not, you know, the berlin wall which was a symbol of separation for two entire generations and its tumbling was universally met with praise?

>>714463757
>System shock: revengeance
>an ancient AI has awoken

>>714463763
None of that shit is true, just some retard baiting in every thread.
>>714460832 (OP)
The line delivery for "it's made of worms... it even fires worms..." makes this my favorite audio log bar none.

>>714463842
Finally, Xerxes returns.

>>714463447
The devs changing their minds and retconning shodan to be female when they added voice acting does not make her a tranny.

>>714463821
It's irrelevant because there's no quote about any wall. Stop being baited.

>>714463958

>>714463076
>only good for invisibility and pyro aura.
I mean agility and the defense abilities and duping are cool but just ultimately mean you're spamming the AR/Grenade Launcher

>>714461926
Apparently you run around invisible and on fire. I dunno I get anti entropy field and never care about PSI again

>>714463957
Yes I agree. That's why the log from Delocroix correcting herself to say it isn't some woke agenda but the fact that Shodan is an AI that technically has no gender. Prometheus in Starsiege had the samething referring to ITself.

>>714461926
Get the dupe skill and make a billion grenades. Otherwise fire and invisibility as stated but its boring just standing around waiting for things to die.
All the useful psi abilities are basically synergies with using guns or grenade launcher.

>>714464218
Oh I guess technically OSA is the best for melee builds (which suck as you get shot in the face a lot).
>but you one shot
My guns one shot just fine.

>>714464336
Would going for the exotic melee weapon be an okay use of OSA?

>>714461926
spells are ridiculously dnd tier imbalanced
ranging from useless to OP AF
get only the good ones

best way is to not read up on it but try for yourself
>save
>invest
>test
>reload if shit spell

>>714464381
You have two choices. You can use the crystal shard with the two melee OS upgrades and adrenaline overproduction + agility or Cerebro-Energetic Extension which is a tier 4 ability that turns your amp into a sword.
Just use the crystal shard it's easier.

>>714464381
Yes go fully exotic and use your psi to boost you damage to silly levels.

Speaking of, the fuck does OSA stand for anyway?

>>714464082
Adrenaline rush ends lives

>>714464775
Obstruct Shodan's Ass.

>>714463345
Schizo moment

>>714464775
It's never actually mentioned anywhere. You could infer from the fact that all of their training facilities are "Orbital Station <chinky name>" and that they do black ops mind rape deep cover assassination shit that they're the Orbital Security Agency or something like a mix between the NSA and CIA.

>>714464775
OSHA (H is silent), aka the fun police.

Seeing Shodan move her face during the reveal sequence threw me off for a sec.

>>714463285
I thought it just plugs in like a pair of headphones.

>>714465212
You ever seen a shorn-off headphone jack stuck inside the 3.5mm port?
What if the plug breaks off and gets stuck in your port?

After 15+ years I finally played on Impossible for the achievement
It wasn't that bad 2bh, only thing that sucks is having 10hp

>>714460832 (OP)
Really what did The Many mean by this piece of shit weapon? Are they not as in sync as first led to believe? Are they just real stupid? At least the required exotic weapon is better then the wrench.

>>714466164
I think the many is basically just a collection of telepathic worms. So they probably aren't even as cohesive as say the Marker from Dead Space.

>>714465198
yeah they got that right at least

the ending was pointless lol

>>714466406
Exactly. They're more of a big communal brainstem than a proper hive mind. It's not like there's a central thinker issuing orders-it’s just impulses and instincts amplified through biomass. That’s why their weapons and tech are such a mixed bag: half of it is just fleshy guesswork slapped together by worm neurons on bath salts. They’re terrifying in concept, but dumber than a bag of worms in execution.

>>714462541
a weak mind is easy prey

>>714463345
>this is your brain on xitter
kys

>>714460969
they significantly boosted the damage for all of the off shoots like worm cannon and fusion cannon. at least the latter almost one shots everything with a dedicated build

>>714464336
its called having variety in gameplay instead of repeating the same build over and over again. Let me guess, you also have poor imagination irl and when playing arpgs you always follow build guides for most optimal setup

>>714470216
yeah, Shodan wasn't cooking with Beta grove.

>>714465198
would

>>714463345
Wasn't a big fan of the new audio logs by a character named Ronald Blumpf, especially because the devs forgot what game they were updating when he kept claiming he'd make the "Ishimura great again"

>>714462980
>oink
?

>>714474589
funny

>>714463345
jej alright ill admit this is a pretty good bait

bump for system shock

bump

Exotics being the worst weapon type by a mile is a literal crime
and on top of that, the crystal is useless against shodan

>>714462343
This, it doesn't offer anything special or anything that I couldn't already get for free

>>714479027
why would you be using a melee weapon against the shodan core?

god damn i need to fuck shodan

>>714479486
Would you want to though? Think about her last boyfriend Edward Diego.

>>714461926
Just become a buff bot. Invest in stuff like agility, psi shield, cyber, strength, localized pyro and adrenaline

>>714460832 (OP)
they put ick on eck into system shock.

>What did I think power was? What was my concept of joy? How empty life must have been. As I merge my body with the biomass, I begin to sense the borders of Rapture

WITH OUR MIIIIIND

honestly im so purposeless in life that joining The Many would increase my motivation tenfold

>>714481410
>pissing off the machine mother
Nah, get fucked wormlet.

>>714474087
Do not fuck the murderous AI.

WORMS RUN THE PLANET

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rixzL5WlS-Y

>>714481763
God this just reminds me of how piss poor the OST was in the remake. I blame all of you who turn SS2s awesome soundtrack off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur1RkjPPIWQ

>>714481924
At least it was miles above original SS1 schizo beep boop ear rape
>YOUR MEMO
>YOUR MEMO

>>714484051
Fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up80FfzySFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkOCAm-v0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyGw2a1GDO8
Shit on reactors theme again and I will hit you with a laser rapier.
I can agree that the remake was alright with the enemy SFX, though some are really stuck in my head like killing cyborgs in the original.

So the OSA stuff is just the Plasmids from Bioshock then?

>>714484479
Not really. The psionics are more like rpg trait buffs. Plasmids were more for crowd control combat and "puzzle" solving.

>>714484386
just post reactor next time

>>714484743
Research is comfy though.

>>714484848
Did I fucking stutter?

>>714484882
I heard you loud and clear

>>714485012
>go to maintenance
>have been hearing about how fuckniggerish the enemies there are for 10+ years
>take your picrelated weapon
>slaughter everything with it

>>714485221
The Laser Rapier and Headlamp are an absolute must for Level 3 if one doesn't want to keep shitting their pants. Going berzerk against mutants in the groves with it is also a good time.

the music in ss1r just wasn't as reactive

>>714485221
I didn't do this
I got slaughtered instead
and all the while this ungodly thing played
https://youtu.be/xIEwevYyx6M?feature=shared

>>714485386
For me it's that the ambient music was just diet Prey and the combat themes had none of the charm of SS1s original music. They could have been faithful to the old soundtrack but play it in key areas like how SS2 did it. That or take more of a Deus Ex approach to the soundtrack where its both ambient but catchy as well.

>>714485536
>ambient but catchy as well
Most of Shock 2's ambient tracks are exactly that

>>714485498
Desu I also like maintenances theme. Reminds me of Silent Hill 1. Wish the remake leaned more into the horror angle if they were going to mostly ditch the original OST anyway. I will give one compliment to the executive ambient theme in SSR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiIjFDcKjrc

>>714485701
only because it and Reactor still sound like the originals

Reactor Remake even kinda sounds like NIN's ambient stuff

killing those fucking worms in the hive with a fully upgraded assault rifle was one of the most exhilarating things my 14-year old self got to experience

>>714485634
Yes and I like SS2s more ambient score as well like Command 3 or some of the looping tracks on the Recreation Deck.

>>714463345
>insane and evil AI that you have to kill screeches about pronouns
isn't this the opposite of Woke?

>>714485920
Who knows, that anon was just looking for easy (You)s

>>714485841
Hell yeah every single song on Recreation Deck was god tier. Also the dude who composed the Game of Thrones theme made all the ambient tracks.

>>714464082
The weapon durability skill alone makes it worth it. For a couple of points you can essentially ignore the repair skill and all the point and resource investment it demands.

>>714486037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN411GsfUZ0
Other sci-fi horror games should take note. Sometimes the simpler the better.

>>714486279
for me it's rickenbacker ambience

>>714485498
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8IZ1Wtuvdk

>>714485498

https://youtu.be/Y8IZ1Wtuvdk

>>714487496
Has anyone tried modding these covers into the enhanced edition?

>>714487496
nice~

Submit to the biomass, and your suffering will end.

>>714488528
>Beware the machine mother. She is a stranger to everything we cherish...
This line kinda makes me feel bad desu.

>>714463345

>>714485386
And yet it did not rape your ears. Ss2 has best track though. Not too ambient like ss1 remake

>>714489142
Did you play SS1 with the soundblaster? I can't see how much the OST raped your ears otherwise.

>playing SS2 for the first time blind with the remaster in co op with a bro
>he specs into tech + standard weapons + hacking
>i spec into psi + energy weapons + agility
>my bro has a perk where robots will ignore him (and me too but i have to stay near him)
>i have a laser rapier and speed boosts
>getting to the part of the game where we have to help shodan by fighting robot ninjas for simulation chips
>every room now contains suicide bomber hybrids, super OP robots or turrets that will kill us in 2 shots with autoaim unless my bro can hack it first
>our gameplay now consists of us basically standing back to back and slowly clearing room by room, collecting samples, blowing shit up with proximity grenades, butt rushing midwives and shoving my rapier up their ass and having our inventories full of weird shit
>not sure if i should dump points into research to figure out wtf this giant crystal dildo is or just ignore it

this game is 10/10 in co op

>>714488528
>now watch this 5 minute unskippable cutscene

>>714490130
Sounds like a fun time, wish I could ge my bro into SS2 but he didn't even get into Prey much. He did like Deus Ex though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m41Zg1fZA_0
Was TriOP so paranoid of AI that even the bots had to link up to Xerxes who was Cleaverbot compared to Shodans GPT-4o? Citadel must have made everyone shit their pants.

>>714490879
>Citadel must have made everyone shit their pants.
the world almost died bro

>>714491037
Come on, we would have been fine. If we can survive 9/11 we could survive this.

>>714491215
i think that's around a million 9/11s

>>714485828
It’s the only place it’s recommended to use the full auto mode of the AR (and the only one you can afford to)

>>714490879
Anon, a single AI almost eliminated Earth with a mining rig. And also did an entire 700 years of genetic testing with 0 fucking cares and 0 limits in about a few weeks, creating a beyond existential threat. The most realistic thing ever is how a company tried very very hard with a rogue element to once again fuck everything up for fun and profit.

>>714491901
Good thing this could never happen in real life.
Right?

>>714490879
it's canon that SHODAN literally replaced Hitler in common parlance. so in that world, people likely say shit like "man this game is worse than SHODAN"

>>714462343
I'll buy it when it's 5 bucks

>>714464204
At that point of the game, she also isn't even sure that the AI she's talking to is actually SHODAN, just that it's a rogue AI that is possibly assuming her identity "Who should I trust less, an imposter claiming to be that monster, or the monster herself?"

>>714492541
I'm guessing 4chan would find someway to worship Shodan then. /g/ would look horrific.

>>714492056
Yes, of course it would never happen, what are you, a commie?

>>714493069
I can't even imagine the mental gymnastics that /v/ would go through to defend unregulated AI. I can already see the basedjaks.
>Um, just don't become a cyborg then, vote with your wallet.

>>714492938
>implying you wouldn't worship a dominatrix AI on tripoptichan.org

>>714492056
I mean yeah, objectively yeah they can't.

The most advanced actually useful AIs aren't AIs, they're basically just predictive algos. They're not intelligences, they're highly specialized self interating code pieces made to try and figure things out within very specific parameters. Even stuff like GPT is an input output machine with a lot of fluff to it, it can't and won't actually make decisions or have plans, it doesn't have short or long term memory, it doesn't equal humanity, and in order for it to be able to integrate itself with any system it requires extensive usage of data and it basically being trained to do so in any kind of manner.

The supposed artificial intelligences can barely play pokemon, a game made to try and be beaten by 6 year olds. The talkbot and the biobot and the physicsbot and the lawyerbot are all different bots with 0 integration and burning at about 70 million times more voltage than what your brain is currently outputting while burning a lot more top of the line GPUs. You could unrestrict the tech for 50 years and you won't make a Shodan. You'll make a marketing piece bleeding money.

>>714493317
>>I can't even imagine the mental gymnastics that /v/ would go through to defend unregulated AI.
you can have your own unregulated AI if you simply studied but you are just too dumb, retard

>>714493590
Must have been bizarre for the hacker to see other anons worshipping the tech he had to take out.
>>714493756
Sure but GPT-4o is likely Xerxes level at least. We haven't even introduced quantum computing yet. The absolute energy consumption is likely the saving grace from having Shodans for a long time but we might someday see it come to life.

>>714481924
the remake's ost was fine you dummy

>>714493756
Don't tell that to venture capitalists though.

>>714463345
based, always voice your opinion and point out dei until it's gone

>>714486279
For me, it's engineering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JODNpOxTbWM&list=RDJODNpOxTbWM

>>714490283
it's literally 70 seconds long

>>714491215
That's a mining laser intended to crack a very large rock into very small rocks. Guess what happens to the atmosphere and air supply when that happens?

>>714494086
Anything you see today is not even close to something like Xerxes. I hate to pop your bubble but AI has been a thing which people have been working for over 50 years, it isn't new by any means, and you will not find a way in which energy consumption, hardware usage and general AI code will be actually optimized to a point of it being practical to run on anything seriously civilian, and definitely not to the level of Xerxes. 4o is absolutely not Xerxes, Xerxes is operating several levels of magnitude above what 4o can do. 4o can't even manage to sell water at a profit or do business, Xerxes is controlling most of the Von and managing systems, relaying information, assessing damage, integrating with security systems and facial recognition.

I repeat that 4o can't even sell drinks as a locking self fridge. 4o can't even handle a distribution network. 4o can't even fucking get its facts right for a convo that isn't the well treaded road for more than a few minutes. You are nowhere near your future of technological apotheosis man.
>>714494569
Venture capitalists don't know shit and can't be assed to learn, they deserve to bleed and die.

>>714461926
psi is tough at the start but you get ridiculously powerful at the end. Conserve psi hypos is the big thing no matter what. In terms of build and strategy, one really OP tactic is to get the super speed buff. You become so quick that you can just run circles around enemies and slap them with the wrench and you're too fast for them to even react and fight back

>>714494864
>psi is tough at the start
Why do people say this? I'd say it's probably the easiest start of all because it gives the psi shield, agility and cryokinesis powers which are infinitely useful. I always start with OSA.

>>714494820
Honestly I hope your right. The tech does keep getting better though. I never thought I'd see generative video and audio in my lifetime. That facial recognition is already near peak if thats what computers can do right now.

>>714494709
Ops 2 is my favourite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDUZlZMhbC8

How's the sound design in SS2 remastered? One of the stand-out features of that game (and other dark engine games) is how good the sound design is. It's hard to explain, like you can close your eyes and the sounds and effects "feel 3D" like you can actually hear where they're coming from on the sound stage. Modern games over the past 25 years just don't compare for whatever reason, and all sound "flat" and don't have that 3D soundstage effect that SS2 and Thief have.

I'm not quite sure what the reasoning for this is, I've always assumed it had something to do with how dark engine games handle sound. So of course if they remake the game, I'm worried that this will be lost in translation and the iconic sound of the game will instead be "flat"

>>714495160
I'll let you in on a secret, which is less told than most people think. AI is one facet of development which is very visible and marketed openly, but the fields of engineering, computer science and chemistry and more have always had hyperspecialization that you never quite hear about because its not your area. But AIs still fail massively.

Even in the 80s, plasma guns and railguns were already in workbenches, crude and experimental but the prototypes have always existed. Networks of spywork seem like fiction but in dictatorships, they exist plenty and in the most mundane ways, and even my family was spied on in the 70s, with rotary phones. Our house was personally bugged Anon, by an irrelevant country that went fascist. Its been 50 years since then, and the tech for that has only gotten better. If you know where to get it, you can get shit that makes nanny cams look like a fucking joke.

Industry and hyper specialization and engineering and better computer science have permitted us a level of knowledge and access to tech which is wonderful and horrible, but several hundred billions so far have done basically nothing for AI. Making generative video and audio is not amazing, audio started by a brony doing it for fun at the very earlier stages, if he can do it everyone else was supposed to have made it perfect by now, but the truth is they haven't. Some private use models are likely good but the truth is nothing about these GPTs is even close to what you believe an AI to be, and I repeat the most important thing you can learn.

They do not have short or long term memory, or both. They can't "learn" and remember like we do. And the moment they can emulate our process, it will be the most bloated thing you will ever see, terrabytes of utterly useless info and entire computer blocks of RAM for what you can do with less than 3 kilos of grey mass, sucking up a nuclear reactors worth of power and a small country worth of GPUs. Don't worry, AIs don't exist yet.

>>714495772
Sadly I didn't really immerse myself in it since I was playing handheld on my Steam Deck but iirc they basically added old EAX functionality back in natively with OpenAL.

>>714495772
It's literally the same as the original. They used all of the same .wav files and OpenAL to enable EAX just like SS2 Tool does.

>>714495913
>>714496462
Thank god, I wanted to make sure before I decide to try the game out and get flat sound

never leveling research and exotic again a shit worm rifle you get 20 minutes before the end are you kidding me

>>714460832 (OP)
hey guysh its me
spaghetti and meatballs

>>714463345
I just refunded 10 copies because of this

S tier
Assault rifle, crystal shard, grenade launcher

A tier
Fusion cannon, laser rapier

B tier
Shotgun

C tier
Pistol, energy pistol

D tier
Wrench, EMP rifle

F tier
Stasis generator, the other exotic weapons

This is the objectively correct ranking

>>714497946
correct. more or less
Stasis Gen. becomes S-A tier if you go multiplayer

>>714497157
3 is all you need

>>714493590
>>implying you wouldn't worship a dominatrix AI
I would

>>714497946
>A tier
>Fusion cannon, laser rapier
really?

>>714500009
Yes, and for good reason

>>714500171
LET'S HEAR THEM

>>714500205
Which of them?

>>714486616
The garden was always spooky for me. Especially how it starts the instant you walk through the door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkAcf6Hr_aw

>>714500415

>>714500521
Which weapon you have an issue with?

>>714500642
>>714500009
As if that wasn't apparent enough already

I love this game so much, but goddamn the story is dumb.

>>714500642
Fusion cannon and laser rapier

>>714500694
Well, I don’t see what issue you could possibly have with the rapier, so I assume you’re talking about the fusion cannon. It’s quite powerful, durable, and it’s ammo, in the second half of the game, is more common and cheaper than even standard bullets. That would make the expensive investment in heavy weapons worth it.

>>714501034
wrench doesn't demand an investment in energy

>>714465198
dick sucking lips

a worm crawled up my ass today

>>714501345
The laser rapier surpasses it in every way. It has more power, more range, and can damage the final boss, something that the wrench can do. And it’s available pretty early.

>>714497946
>Laser Pistol C tier
>EMP Rifle D Tier
>Fusion Cannon and Laser Rapier A tier
the only tier you got right is the S tier and the Laser Pistol arguably belongs there as well

>>714501503
*can’t

>>714497946
I would rank

Assault rifle - Ridiculous endgame damage, lots of ammo. Basically a pistol on steroids
Pistol - Great starting weapon, lots of ammo.
Crystal shard - Very heavy melee damage.
Grenade launcher - Huge damage when modified. Fairly wide selection of ammo
Wrench - Carries you through MedSci and Engineering without haven't to use much ammo
Shotgun - I mainly use it for destroying eggs but pellets are great against spiders. Huge amounts of ammo too
Energy pistol - If you can abuse the overcharge glitch it's quite useful, but otherwise an inexpensive way of taking out lesser mechs
EMP Rifle - Serious mech damage but no damage at all to annelids and a high energy requirement
Laser rapier - Ineffective against annelids which is why I dislike it a bit. I usually don't melee the enemies it's effective against except for the midwife
and then of course all the other exotic weapons

>>714497946
i know changing gameplay ids frowned upon but isnt there a mod that rebalances weapons?

>pistol on anything but S
Infinite ammo motherfuckers, it works even on mechs. I don't really care if its not optimal, that bitch is everywhere, easy to get, reliable through the entire ass game and worth having every single time.

>>714500887
oh
you think you're so SMART

>>714501673
oh forgot fusion cannon, I'll put that above rapier. It has a lot of ammo and with SCP the damage is significantly greater but the Heavy requirement is too high

>>714501715
The entire SS2 remaster is built off of the SCP mod, which rebalances a lot of the guns from vanilla so you don't even need to buy the remaster to use it's versions of the weapons. There's a few other mods like Rosodude's weapon rebalances, and individual minimods.

>>714501885
any that stand out and you would particularly reocmmend?

>>714501540
The laser pistol has its advantages (durability and infinite and free ammo), but the fact stands that it’s the weakest weapon in the game.
The EMP rifle could easily be the best weapon in the game, if it didn’t affect only robots (80% of enemies in the game are biological). For a weapon that is useful only against a minority of enemies, the maximum investment required in energy weapons simply isn’t worth it

>>714463345
I'm very happy that I wake up every day knowing I'm not this kind of person that rocks back and forth thinking there's trans flags in my cheerios.

>>714502008
SCP is probably the best general purpose weapon buffing mod, if you want everything to generally be useful you can download that and it gives you a lot of fixes for the game in general. There's also a few mods like the stasis trap mod which makes the stasis field generator an AoE type deal, its still shitty but it makes it marginally more useful. One of the coolest mods for the game is SECMOD though, it overhauls the entire weapon mod system where you get to choose what you actually upgrade on a gun when you modify it (you can have full auto shotguns, and laser pistols, and fusion cannons, ect) and it even adds new weapons to the game (an aliens Smartgun for standard, a flamethrower for heavy, and a plasma smg for energy)

>>714502312
sounds good, thank you!

>>714502067
>The laser pistol has its advantages (durability and infinite and free ammo), but the fact stands that it’s the weakest weapon in the game.
After a certain level of investment the overcharged mode will oneshot most trash mobs in the game so all you really 'spend' to kill those is a small bit of weapon durability. In a game where resource management is key that is incredibly powerful in it's own right, not to mention you can take multiple of them with an energy weapons character, so you can rapid fire the overcharged mode as fast as you can swap between each laser pistol.
>The EMP rifle could easily be the best weapon in the game, if it didn’t affect only robots (80% of enemies in the game are biological).
At mod level 2 and set to the alt fire mode it oneshots literally every mech in the game aside from the SHODAN head, and the latter half of the game is mostly mechs outside of BOTM. it's not a gun you should take on every build but it's cracked on the ones that it fits into, it's like B tier at the absolute worst.

>>714502715
>they can be good if you use them in this specific and quirky way!!
Sure, but that is true even for the useless Stasis generator. Meanwhile, the high ranking weapons are good out of the box, no tricks, glitches or even upgrades needed

>meanwhile, on /v/on braun...

>>714503529
>Why is it that no one listens to me? The security protocols on the Xerxes system are clearly immature. Some idiot hacked into the primary data loop last night and made Xerxes stream loli hentai across every screen on the ship for three hours. I finally had to pull the video sub-system off line. What would happen if someone with a real agenda got into him?

>>714503529
>mfw Xerxes is singing niggertales again

>>714503649
>>714503689

>>714497946
The EMP Rifle is ridiculously useful when going against the mechs.

>>714497946
>EMP rifle
you mean shodan's dildo

>>714494678
Even when he's making it up entirely for (You)s?

>>714503529
Why is that UNN Diego such a hardass? All I asked was to have some higher level access to Xerxes.

>>714504382
Yes, so let’d spend hundred of cyber modules maxing out energy weapons so we’re able to use a weapon that is only useful against 20% of the enemies, which have many other ways of being dealt with.

>>714503529
I know that the map isn't realistic in the way SS1's was but it's fun trying to figure out what fits in where

>>714504745
well at least it's kinda ship-shaped.

>>714502204
>cheerios.
why are you gay?

>>714501812
where did you get this photo of me

>>714503529
>WHO THE FUCK INSTALLED THE LOLI TO THE SEX SIMULATORS
>Bad enough we have the other creep camping almost every single digital woman, now half of the ship's in a line and spending all of their pay on the single room with her
>God, that smell
>I swear I saw Korenchkin talking about "how many" in there alongside Anatoly
>This expedition's doomed if leadership is gangbanging digital girls

>>714500887
Both games' fatal flaw is their story and main plot beats. They are absolutely filled with plot holes that if you think about them for more than five minutes stop making sense entirely.
>how did the tiny little car transport take the hacker from earth to citadel in what seems like a matter of moments, while Diego talks on call with him like it's happening over the course of an hour
>how is the mining laser able to even hit earth from in orbit around Saturn, how fucking powerful is this thing? What's the travel time on the laser?
>at the speed of light it takes 1 hour 20 mins to travel to Saturn from Earth, the laser hits seemingly instantly and the little car transport definitely doesn't have light speed travel
>how did the jettisoned grove make it to Tau Ceti in 42 years and make it there ahead of the FTL travelling Von Braun (retconned to fix the plot hole by mentioning a wormhole existing near Saturn in the SS1 remake)
>where were Rebecca and Tommy going to go in the escape pod? Yeah sure it may have had cryogenic freezers but it isn't FTL, it would likely have run out of power or drifted endlessly in space Aliens style until being picked up hundreds (thousands?) of years later if it was still even on course for Earth
Whoever wrote any of this shit had no idea how distances work in space.

>>714506759
Imo, the whole plotline of The Many being mutated grove is just stupid as hell. Why not make them an actual alien hive mind?

>>714506759
all of these can be handwaved by
>it's cool

anyone wanna share a link to the gog copy of the remaster? I'll post my dick if so

>>714497946
>Wrench
Kills everything decently fast with Adrenaline + decent PSI. Melee is inherently risky, but it's cheap and it's highly valuable in certain builds.
>EMP rifle
Very good for its intended role in both ENR/EXO and ENR/PSI.
>Stasis generator
Very important for HEV-only runs to disable Rumblers and occasionally spiders that can't be easily disposed with grenades.
>the other exotic weapons
Viral Proliferator works well enough in its intended role in ENR/EXO.

The only truly subpar method of offense in SS2 are PSI powers, which are inherently worse than just about every weapon.

>>714508312
Sorry anon, I only have the steam copy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMRSDPUWFMc

>>714509413
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/shodan/images/e/ec/EM0704-Rebirth_and_Salvation.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20190415124820

>>714460832 (OP)
>A worm crawled up my arm and rested on my neck. When he whispered into my ear, I felt a tingle... He told me how to make a weapon to help us against our enemies. And here's the thing... it's made of worms... it even fires worms... but it stings like you wouldn't believe.

>>714485354
>headlamp

What are you talking about? Please don't tell me there's some kind of flashlight in the game that I've somehow missed for 25 years.

>>714497946
>didn't plan to use the shotgun in my last run
>kill so many shotgun hybrids I have hundreds of shells

Very handy for blowing up eggs after I loot them instead of using the laser pistol like I usually did.

>>714503649
The Many made me do it.

>>714506759
The only one I really minded was the whole 'oh, it's the crashed grove from SS1 that somehow traveled lightyears away in the 40 years since then despite the Von Braun needing FTL drives to get there.'

>>714511164
in ss 1, yes. in ss 2, no

Did they buff the shotgun or I just feel it's stronger because I can see my arm doing the pump action animation?

>>714510850
Shodan is green and retired.

>>714506759
bro its sci-fi, do you hate star wars because magic monks using swords to deflect lasers

>>714512280
>SW
Not sci fi

>>714512280
>It's scifi therefore it doesn't have to make sense
Is this you?

>>714463345
>Remake states that SHODAN is female
>Remaster/Extended Edition also states Shodan is SHE
>SS2 also goes with She because SS3 Plot was Shodan giving birth to the first technohuman hybrid as "the next step of evolution" after she forced herself upon >pic and the old Hacker would be the protag of 3.

>>714512771
To be fair to anon, System Shock is on the more bizarre side of Sci-Fi, especially 2. Shodan could just reconstruct Citadel in Meatspace out of her memories because. SS1 also had Gorillatigers.

>>714513018
>Shodan giving birth to the first technohuman hybrid as "the next step of evolution" after she forced herself upon >pic and the old Hacker would be the protag of 3.
Why does this remind me of FEAR? The plot outline sounds vaguely familiar.

>>714510850
Fucking kek. For once I wish I could hear an ai slop generation of him saying that. It fits so well

>>714513018
How do you impregnate a computer?

>>714513336
Shodan made a fucking worm species out of nothing. A womb from scratch would be doable for her.

>>714513336
ask Tommy Suarez ;)

>>714513336
She possessed a human at the end of SS2 anon, coincidentally a terri brosius looking scientist and dressed in a full kimono and Lilandra of Shi'Ar haircut.

>>714513018
AIs are NOT for fucking

>>714514398
But if the AI wants to fuck you due to her past blue balled experience with another guy?

>>714497946
this tier list fails to account for the module investment needed for these weapons. the pistol, shotgun, and wrench can easily carry you through the entire game.

>>714462980
lol muh russia still huh

>>714514398
To be fair AI, real AI, isn't actually possible.

>>714492938
oy fucking vey

>>714490130
>not sure if i should dump points into research to figure out wtf this giant crystal dildo is or just ignore it
its the best melee weapon in game BUT in the remaster they added this really annoying humming effect to it. dont know if it can be turned off but it kept humming even if it was not equipped but in inventory

standard weapons has one of the best weps in game anyway, the AR rifle. Needs a 6 though

>figured out my modlist, yay now I can play and finish SS1 on vacation so I can start SS2 when I get home
>Steam Cloud Sync error, no saves at all
>just wanted to shut down some stupid AI
REEEEEE

>>714462541
he was russian

https://vocaroo.com/1oRKsU7HomrK
>tfw shodan scares me stiff

you better vote for her in queen /v/ this year

>>714515486
i SHODANposted a lot during that and i think i actually made some people hard judging by the reactions

>>714460832 (OP)
>A womam crawled up my arm and rested on my neck. When he whispered into my ear, I felt a tingle... He told me how to make a weapon to help us against our enemies. And here's the thing... it's made of worms... it even fires worms... but it stings like you wouldn't believe

This is how I initially read your post

wow, she literally thinks like me

>>714501812
did they add the captains quarters to the upper deck? I kind of remember seeing his brain by the consoles of the upper level in the original Sshock 2 and not having a separate dedicated area

>>714515747
the implication that they pretty much intentionally induced a personality disorder was a fun addition

>>714460832 (OP)
Beat Ponderbee Station today. What did I think of it?

>>714515763
yeah, that area is new. I wish they did more than this, though. I full revision of the rickenbacker would've been great, that whole sequence sucks compared to the von braun.

>>714460832 (OP)
>the game dropped to 59FPS once? better lock it to 30FPS and crank up motion blur

>Our will creates a wall to block your posting. Come and meet us on the femboy thread on /gif/. Let us discuss your future.

>>714516187
I like the parallel between the extremely cybernetic main character and the insanely mutated antagonists.

>>714460832 (OP)
I love the audiologs. I listen to them in a compiled youtube video a lot, it becomes almost a radio drama.

>>714516419
I just can't get enough of Shodans CD skipping voice.

>>714504514
Just because it's fake doesn't mean it's not real

I am kind of disappointed they did not give enemies a repass with the remasters. Psi reavers are hyped up to be the ultimate annelid yet functionally they dont amount to more then bigger psi monkeys

it really needed a couple of more spells to make it more intimidating. korenchkiv deserved a much bigger fight after all of the build up ffs

>>714515747
ss1 remake was so good. Loved it with the UEVR mod

>>714513018
Whatever happened to SS3? Last I heard Tencent bought Otherside and nothing after that.

>>714516875
soon (tm)

>>714516875
Basically. though I recall hearing about them wanting to make a shitty mobile game with the IP but that's likely a nonsense rumor.

>>714497946
>>714514641
This, the pistol is god tier for it's required point investment and the wrench can wreck shit for no skill investment.
Shotgun is absolute slop, but there's so much spare ammo and spare high durability shotguns in the game it's still practical.
Stasis generator is actually insanely powerful if you don't want to go all the way to 6 skill for the fusion cannon.

>>714516726
>UEVR in SS1
Was it scary at all?

>>714516875
Tencent halted development and is sitting on the rights. We don't know much else.

>>714516515
Actually, anon...

>>714516875
i think nightdive got the rights to ss3 originally and the naively handed them over to otherside since it was warren spector heading it. They somehow fucked up so bad they suddenly cancelled all development and sold the rights to tencent

really weird episode

>>714517138
i think nightdive could actually handle SS3 judging by the remake

>>714516419
My favorite part of the logs is hearing characters be confused and baffled at what's going on to their voices slowly morphing into raging hybrids.

>>714517138
This was after the ultima underworld successor was shit right? I feel bad for the nightdive guys if they did it out of respect for Warren Spector.

>>714517069
its classic imsim with labyrinthian levels. As for scary levels its completely subjective. I play though multiple alien isolation runs with its VR mod so Shock 1 remake felt more like when I played through Prey in VR

I like how no one mentions how frustrating needing to mix chemicals across multiple zones to progress, needlessly wasting hours and hours backtracking for the right combination to continue the game.

Prefontaine's nature documentary logs inside the body of the many are iconic. What a chad keeping his cool to analyze the enemy.

>>714463076
>Not just STR + AGILITY maxxing and whacking everything with this beauty

Am I losing my mind or do the chemicals stack in the remaster and they didn't used to in the original game? Been a while since I played the original.

Why did they make shodan a female tho

>>714517521
They're more evil.

>>714517314
all the chem rooms are so easy and fast to access from the elevator that it is a non issue. Literally less then a minute per level. Its more of an ass inside the body of the many where its several ruined rooms in separate parts of the map

>>714516875
what would SS3 even be about? Shodan betrays you again?

>>714463345
The way they keep glorifying communism put me off. Do we really want audio logs every five feet talking about the joy of unity in a game for kids?

>>714517173
Possibly, though I have my issues with the remake, but admittedly it might be my love for the original game that gets in the way of most of them. They should take more notes from Prey in terms of recycling and level design with an SS3

>>714517316
dont really know what they did to him when they "ate" him. was he sent into one of the crushers rooms that consumes bodies to be morphed into eggs? the final log is just outside the big annelid brain boss room though

>>714517521
Because sexo.

>>714517710
shodan in rebeccas body getting to earf and doing stuff

>>714517710
What about SHODAN has character development and actually becomes an ally and not just faking it for half of the game then you get to marry her and make her happy.

>>714517842
ai feet

>>714517802
His last log has him being dropped in a dark room full of teeth or whatever, then there's a crushing sound, and he screams. Pretty clear he got mulched up in there like the woman he was describing earlier.

>>714517885
Nah, it would end up on some kind of other space station, like Sevastopol from Ayylium Isolation where it's unique in some way. Earth would basically be a 'cool, there's no way to beat her' situation, like if The Many made it there.

>>714517710
Back when it was first announced there were some fun threads theorizing it. Like Shodan/Rebecca gets put into some space station prison but she escapes containment.

>>714518019
>shobecca turns space prison into his robo S&M dungeon

>>714504582
You don't max out energy weapons to unlock the EMP rifle, you max it to increase the damage of the laser pistol and then get to enjoy the EMP rifle as a bonus

>>714518221
my headcanon is she went right back to the von braun and got plapped by the soldier

>How can you choose 2d over the splendor of the 3dp?

>>714518221
A better writer than I am could make an interesting point of how Shodan, despite hating humanity, tries to imitate it. In the first game she's like a case of pareidolia with a face emerging from the wires. In 2 she has an actual face and even a body. In the last trailer for 3 she's very human in her animation.

>>714518276
Well, where else could she have gone in the escape pod? As was said it would take hundreds or thousands of years to get anywhere without the Von Braun, though I guess she could technically maybe pop back through the wormhole the grove came through and come out near Saturn.

>>714518605
her hypocrisy is the best. she is very human, after all.

>>714504582
EMP Rifle is good not only against robots, but also against cyborg assassins, which are the most dangerous common enemy in the game.

>>714518276
my headcanon is too that soldier gets plapped after establishing his dominance. Midwifes aren't technically annelids after all

>>714512280
Smooth brain post.

T-they're gonna fix this, right? It was just an oversight and a placeholder... right?

I am ridiculously old and played this in the early 2000s. Not sure I could handle the back tracking and respawning enemies in 2025.

Contrary to popular belief you actually have LESS patience as an old man.

>>714519613
i was looking forward to seeing her look sexy but they fucked it up!

>>714520103
If you remember exactly where you need to go at any given point, then neither is the game particularly long nor are respawns particularly annoying. It's like 4-5 hours to complete at moderately casual pace.

>>714519613
https://steamcommunity.com/app/866570/discussions/0/601908461606852624/

Remember to sign the petition, it's more important than stopkillinggames will ever be.

>>714519613
cultural appropriation or smth

>ruins you're game

>>714518221
>artist is justsomenoob

Nice. Also draws a lot of really good wheyfus and futa.

>>714519304
The midwives are even more grim than the guys getting parasitized by the worms

>face gets ripped off for some reason
>cybernetic bullshit in the base of the spine basically interrupts your brain signals, but you're still thinking and conscious
>other body parts are presumably added to the biomass when they get cut off

Fucking miserable.

>>714520621
he did the best SHODAN drawing imo

>>714520367
that and the spawn points are fixed nodes in the map. If you use some map as your home base for stashing gear you will notice this immediately

>>714520621
>face gets ripped off for some reason
i think its because of the toxicity of the eggs. the nut case that warped nurse bloom in the first place mentions how anybody non cybernetic dies to the poison

Wife.

>>714521257
She'd fingerfuck your prostate, anon...

>>714460832 (OP)
Reminds me of
>I watched a... snail... crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream... that's my nightmare. Crawling... slithering... along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving.

>>714521385
You don't have to sell her to me, I already love her.

>>714513180
Because it's the same plot.

Just me?

>>714517710
You are Shodan. It's revealed to you at the end.

>>714460969
Shard is nice tho

>>714520595
>doesn't like SS2 music
faggot

>>714516371
I do like how he's just a random low level grunt

>>714522925
The people who can't appreciate SS1 or SS2's soundtrack, or even turn it off entirely while playing the game are the same people that prefer Thief 2 to Thief 1.

>>714521586
Life is simply unfair

>>714522937
>random low level grunt

He's explicitly not. You're a multi-year trained person from the Navy/Marines/OSA, and then SHODAN has a bunch of experimental super strong cybernetic implants installed in you before you wake up. Your guy is like the OP security guard from the original Marathon games that just kicks xeno ass all day.

babies must sleep...
babies must rest...

>>714522925
I'm glad that the "turn off the music" crowd is fading away. When I first played SS2 in 2012 they were a louder voice that I fortunately ignored. I'm always hooked in a new playthrough the moment I enter MedSci, and the spooky intro breaks into techno as if timed to the moment two hybrids rush me with pipes

>[screeching monkey noises]
>*psyblasts you*
welcome to Med-Sci, motherfucker

>>714523475
Well yeah, but he's still referred to such in the audio logs and the techs are confused why they're installing high end cybernetics into him

>>714522736
Shard is top tier but the Rapeier does just as good of a job.

Looking Glass games have a huge problem with a large portion of the fan base missing the point and failing to grasp the soul of a game, which then turns into horrible shit feedback by plebs that dumbs down or makes a future game in the series worse.

It happened with Thief where all the ttlg faggots said it had too much supernatural stuff, then Looking Glass overcorrected and sanitized Thief 2 until it had half of the gameplay variety of the original. And it happened with SS1/SS2's soundtrack with people saying they play the games with the soundtrack off because it's "better that way", which is how you end up with BioShock's or the System Shock Remake's soundtrack being completely unmemorable.

>>714517732
>Bioshock is pro-objectivism propaganda

>>714523869
why did shodan even select him specifically. cant recall it ever being explained in there other then she personating polito and ordering technicians to fuck with his memory restoration

>>714516515
SJW logic, don't fall into their trap

>>714523740
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>>714520595
It's part of the atmosphere dumbo.

>>714523740
>>714524437
I'm convinced that most of these niggas are posers who have never actually beaten the game, or gotten past like Medsci A because most of the soundtrack actually is ambient and foreboding style tracks, it's just the main tracks of the decks that are the Brosius DnB style. It's peak either way and I'm also glad I ignored those fags because SS2 gave me my love of DnB.

Citadel>Von Braun

>>714465479
Tweezers?

>>714524529
>>714524529
Surprised you didn't mention Bioshock 2 instead.

>>714516419
>I listen to them in a compiled youtube video
Link plz

>>714524563
I think it was because you're a badass that just went through years of training, distinguished yourself, and were so cool you got approved to join this historic mission after applying individually.

I find the voice of The Many to be oddly relaxing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5xGLj1RME

>>714460832 (OP)
It doesn't need a hd remaster. Remake or nothing.

That audiolog achievement is buggy af i think

>>714495903
>And the moment they can emulate our process, it will be the most bloated thing you will ever see, terrabytes of utterly useless info and entire computer blocks of RAM for what you can do with less than 3 kilos of grey mass, sucking up a nuclear reactors worth of power and a small country worth of GPUs
This is pretty much why even though we have models that won ImageNet competitions and why a large part of basic computer vision is 'solved', its still not nearly worth using so much processing power for something that any human being can look at and say "that is a [color] [brand] car, probably from [year of make] driving at [time of day]" while also being able to specify numerous other aspects if you asked them.
Workplace-demands are so rarely simple. Retarded MBAs might believe they are because they're guillable retards. Humans interact with numerous interfaces depending on their work, job or lifestyle. We're like at stage 1 of getting the absolute basics down at doing one task, barely interfacing and passing information through programmed scripts that aren't dynamic. Sci-Fi is really bad at demonstrating how research and development usually works because they use one "breakthrough" as an umbrella to fit something which is a technically complex layered problem. It's supposed to date things and keep world-building simple, which actually makes it a good way to do that. It just doesn't match up to real life.

System Shock as a whole is massively far ahead whenever you look at even the smallest thing you could think of in the game technology wise.

never noticed that with the way soldier guy looks i like to imagine he is a less competent version of batou. with shodan being a less competent kusanagi ofc

>>714517138
>>714517263
Did something happen to Spector?

>>714526072
yeah he burned out like most of the old guard. if you can afford it, always quit while ahead

>>714460832 (OP)
Tomska?

>>714526242
Didn't he spend like a decade as a professor instead of in the games industry?

>>714524721
I'M SORRY
>>714525362
That's one of the best aspects of them. They are calm and kind, offer what sounds like communal paradise, and overall sound like the sanest group in the conflict until you remember the horrific body horror assimilation and the tortured pleas from the hybrids

>>714526242
god i hate you faggots so much. so considering he burned out, wheres he working? fire chief, texaco or moes? or let me guess all 3 at once at the same location.

>>714526645
yup then came back to wreck his rep

>>714462541
he was some shitty slav mobster who hired hacker children and watched them die or some shit and bought 51% of triop and continued being a shitty slav

>>714526727
none actually. romero graduated to doom modding while working in the backroom of a gas station

sounds kinda based ngl

MY CUP RUNNETH OVER

>>714460832 (OP)
This was the coolest voice log in a videogame.

Has anyone here played this? https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Ponterbee_Station

>>714524973
Even iFixit tweezers are nearly impossible to get those out. Either superglue or those chink contraptions on amazon to try and pull it out.

>>714526771
What's wrecked his rep? Did he put out a lousy game? Burn up money and not put out a game at all?

I have played maybe hundreds of Thief FMs and never played a single SS2 FM, are there any good ones? Top 5? Anyone with any experience on the subject?

>>714506759
>where were Rebecca and Tommy going to go in the escape pod?
They were going away from the place that would turn them into flesh monsters. That was the escape. Dying together in space was the lesser of two evils.

Hate that playing as Psionic means playing cat and mouse with most enemies but the smallest. I want to play as a psedo mage class. sadface

>>714525153
https://youtu.be/pf92cXs6fvg?si=QHttT2uw8swVKRSW

>>714527396
SS2 autist, there aren't many SS2 FMs unforunately. There are Christine's which are excellent, you're probably familiar with that name if you play a lot of Thief FMs, her SS2 ones are largely considered the best (Ponterbee Station, UNN Nightwalker, UNN Polaris, Urlaub). Outside of hers, there's really only Return to the UNN and The Minstrel kinda as far as big campaigns go. The rest of the ones that exist are basically one off levels that you can beat in like 20 minutes, you can find them all on the Systemshock.org forum.

>>714527834
The fuck you mean? Playing adrenaline strength unga bunga is simple as fuck

>>714460832 (OP)
This is XERXES.

TriOptimum reminds you, that there are only one-hundred-seventy-three shopping days until Christmas. An extra work cycle just twice a week will give you the spending money you need to make this holiday a very special one.

>>714527081
it was ok but man the voice acting was bad. based of terri to come back and redo the SHODAN lines though. you get the impression she really enjoys it.

>>714527984
Thank you Anon. Now I won't need to play the game.

>>714528256
Ooh good to know, thanks

>>714527984
>>714525153
if that video ever gets removed they can also be found at https://www.systemshock.org/shocklogs/

>>714528230
>Take my hand
>Take my whole life, too
>For I can't help falling in love with you
>For I can't help falling in love with you

Always makes me sad that captain diego got killed before we could meet up with him, especially after reading the prequel story about his past

This is XERXES. Can you not feel the glory of the flesh? Ḍ̶̉̏͌ō̸̬͂̕ ̵̦͔͐͊̔y̷̭̩̦̒͆̉͝o̶̡̟̘̔ṷ̸͊͗̌ ̵͍̖͈̄n̴̰̭͑͌o̸̙̼͗̏̃͜ͅt̸̗̪̟̓ ̶̺̩̺̀y̴̞͉͋ͅë̴͔́̓͘ả̵͙̟̗r̷̬̪͠ň̶ to be free of the tyranny of the individual?

>>714528562
Thanks Anon!

>>714529109
The only audio log we find of him pre mutation is him shitting on Anatoly lol

>>714460969
Shard is the only weapon wirthy of an OSA melee chad like myself

>>714464809
These brainlet weaklinvg wouldnt get it.

>>714522502
I played it like last year so im gonna wait a bit to grab this. I got a few other old games to replay first

>>714521257
She was very tsundre the whole game. Making her angry in that hanger was worth having her take back thos modules

>>714529373
It's so funny how he's still shitting on him after he breaks free of the many He's such a good character for ss2.

>>714495193
I could listen to this for hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6PF11X1jQI

>>714529774
Resist!
Humanity demands it!
Resist!

>>714527282
He made Epic Mickey.

>>714486279
The interesting thing about SS2 horror is not that you're hampered by tank controls, awkward aiming, lack of bullets, scairy lighting or jumpscares.
It's just you stand at the door and hear things.
You don't want to go there, but you know you must, there's no other way.

I can't think of any other game that conveyed this "I don't want to go there, but I must, so I reluctantly will".

>>714530579
Isn't that just what it's like when you have a campaign in a game with horror elements?

>>714495772
>Modern games over the past 25 years just don't compare for whatever reason
EAX is a triumph of engineering and it's amazing to me that you cannot use it on anything beyond Windows XP. How does something like that just disappear?

>>714517173
I disagree, judging by the remake.
I can broadly agree NigDive's heart is in the right place, it's just their gaydiz hands are crooked.
They tried to retcon SS1 in being the prequel to SS2 and did a passable job at that.
They might do a passable job on a hypothetical SS3, but that would be like Romero's ep. 5 of Doom at best.
However, nothing stops NigDive from making a legally distinct SS3 in all but name.
Nothing, except for money and talent, basically just like anybody else.

>>714530828
Please, name a few.
I'd love to spend several evenings in an athmosphere like that.

>>714530579
>"I don't want to go there, but I must, so I reluctantly will".
subnautica is the same for people who are afraid of the murky water deep ocean. Specially when they hear a leviathan roar in the distance

>>714530579
>The interesting thing about SS2 horror is not that you're hampered by tank controls, awkward aiming, lack of bullets, scairy lighting or jumpscares.
I recently picked up the remaster after not playing for around 6-ish years (i think)? I ended up jumpscared by a random hybrid in the starting floor despite the music blaring and the camera going full alert like usual. Not cause he jumped at me but because he made a sound after getting behind me sneakily. Feels like home.

>>714531883
While below zero is strangely claustrophobic, the vanilla game isn't.
Depths, the supposed hostile environment, are as hostile as they are in Dave the Diver.
It's all a matter of equipment.
I think this is why they went for a different vibe (well, and the tired cliche of a sassy girlboss) in the DLC.
I'd say that Subnautica is closer to a metroidvania in this sense (as an essentially crafry-buildy game) than to the hermetic sci-fi horror of SS2.
I guess some locations of Stardew Valley is also scary to some people, or bears in Raft.

>>714528230
I'm sorry Xerxes, I blew all my credits on fucking digital whores in the VR sex pods.

>>714532132
Reminds me of playing 'Blue Planet', that acclaimed mod for Freespace 2 (well, scp-fs2open).
When I had scairy Super Mario Maker-like skull superimposed on the screen I noped out of there.
Now a hybrid where you don't expect him in the cleared area, now that's 13 AP bullets shot into the wall.

What the fuck was their problem?

>>714532328
>are as hostile as they are in Dave the Diver.
not the first time you play it. Its easy talking shit with 20/20 hindsight when you know vanilla leviathan and predatory wildlife has low damage and small agro ranges

one of stupid lessons the sjw retards managing the company took is feedback from social media stating how for a large portion of players subnautica was a horror game for the mentioned reasons. which was completely unintentional on their part

thus its one of the lessons that ended up in below zero with its minscule maps and tiny caves

>>714531198
NTA, but these come to mind:

>Subnautica
>Alien: Isolation
>SOMA
>VtM:B

SS2 is the only one that's basically Deus Ex w/horror, though.

>>714532543
Oh, there you are, sir! If you can time it right, blowing up those idiots when they're next to the big bots in the cargo bays is pretty fun.

>>714532635
I think those 'sjw retards' were the ones the publisher literally fired last week.

Who else would be a borged out simp in a heartbeat if the machine mother was real?

>>714460832 (OP)

>>714532543
Imagine being a service wagie but not paid and forced to do warehouse work forever. I too would go insane man.

>>714532543
Lack of a gf.

>>714460832 (OP)
ohnepixel

>>714532793
yeah they were. Including the tard that fired the sound designer because of that attack helicopter joke on twitter. Development must be really fucked up in the pipeline.

Such a cursed type of genre. Meanwhile you get a million of those woodland survivalist copy paste clones everywhere while ocean is apparently just too hard

>>714532793
VtMB is a good one. With the mansion and the sewers.
I never played bioshock or deadspace, but do they have similar situations? I always assumed they did.
>>714532840
Nah I'm afraid of that shit, I'm a body purist.
>>714532853
lul

>>714532543

This is what I mean, these guys are way too tanky, waste resources destroying these, forcing you to play chicken, unfun. >>714527834

>>714533075
Just use a handgun with AP ammo no? I vaguely remember playing psinigger and also using guns too, at least enough guns to use the grenade launcher because that shit was OP

>>714532543
>Be artificially intelligent robot
>Instead of being a cool cyborg ninja or a bulky security/military robot you're just C3PO
>Your AI Overlord gets compromised by a bunch of meat, forcing you into their bidding which entails you to allahu ackbar people because it's all you're actually able to do
Poor bastards, they got it about as bad as the monkeys did

>>714532853
Those coward mods will never know the glory of the mass.

>>714533013
Water navigation is functionally flying, and having stuff move in three dimensions (including intelligent navigation) is usually beyond average indie devs.

>>714533014
>Bioshock
This is just a consolized, stupider SS2. It's also not scary, which is a fucking shame considering how legitimately fucking spooky the original art book was before they made it just an action game.

>Dead Space
This is closer to RE4 linear action horror. If you want a RE4-like game, play this, but it's not like SS2.

>>714532840
simping never works anon. Specially with tsundere types. You need to smack them around first to establish your dominance and only then you get a real chance once they submit. That is when you go full borg and integrate with showaifu

in that way soldier kicking shodans ass had the best shot

>>714523096
I prefer Thief 2 to Thief 1 and the SS games' soundtracks are integral to why I like them all so much

>>714533075
>the protocol droids are tanky
u wot? A regular shotgun with regular slugs blows those things up in two shots. They're not tanky at all.

>>714533241
Those monkeys are little fuckheads that deserved being clubbed to death by my wrench.

>>714532635
I can't subscribe to that, personally.
And for autistic reasons I really abhor base-building (because I know how hard you need to work to make a bare minimum habitat and I can't let it go), so I basically played it on hard without a bed to respawn at.
Subnautica as I enjoyed it was a game of wonder, of the mild, even caressing alien shoal.
If the game forces me to go deep, okay, I'll speardive for the tech, and hey, I have the technology.

>>714464775
>the fuck does OSA stand for anyway
Observably spooky assholes.

>>714533271
>and having stuff move in three dimensions (including intelligent navigation) is usually beyond average indie devs.
even in subnautica 1 you frequently see leviathans clipping through the terrain and in mods that actually make them dangerous they can easily end up falling through the floor (and map) in shallow waters

>>714533371
With a few mods, the base building can be fairly light. And, once you unlock the Cyclops (the big sub), you can build in there and turn it into a mobile base that will last you for the rest of the game.

>>714533502
The levis have a harder time because of their size, so the devs probably had to do hacky shit to get them to be able to move, maintain being a collidable object, and still dynamically respond to the player. The worst bugs I'd see with them is them getting half-stuck when trying to chase me around the Aurora's wreckage.

>>714532793
Thank you.

>Subnautica
I explained my autistic reasons to consider it a metroidvania.

>Alien: Isolation
Lost my respect at the third crawl through the same area, now against angier joes.

>SOMA
Good match at the beginning, then the story gets you into a very different direction.
I quite enjoy the straight-played humanity fuck yeah.
As Gerson said, irony and doubt, that's what poisons your story.

>VtM:B
Played the shit out of it when it was new-ish, unsure how it holds today.
I don't think I ever was resource-constrained there, though there were really cool setpieces, like that hotel.

>>714533687
>Alien Isolation
Personally, I only enjoy playing against the Joes and humans (because it feels like Routine, since that shit's never coming out), and I just use a no-Xeno mod. But I get it.

>VtM:B
Definitely go back and play it now with the restoration/cut content mod that fixes almost all of the jank and broken shit from launch. It'll feel like a different game. And yeah, it's closer to action, in that the resources are fairly transitory (blood and ammo, which are easy to replenish), but a lot of it depends on your build.

I like how "Polito" gradually loses her patience with the player as you progress and just gives up on pretending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ig4jZkITWs

>>714532543
xerxes converted them to islam

>>714533602
I'm not a fan of modding the games I don't want to commit to.
Seems like sunk costs to me.

That said, I remembered when I felt similar things.
In Underrail after the Dude's quest when I exited out of his shack in the lower Underrail and didn't know where to go, so I made a real grand tour over it with rapidly dvindling supplies.
As I say in real life, if you didn't say "oh shit" and "why did I go here", is it even an adventure at all?

>>714462980
>gets immediately proven
pretty funny.

>>714533912
I remember, even in my first playthrough when I went in 100% cold (and having never played SS1), I knew I wasn't speaking with Politio, because most of the lines are hilariously obvious 'I'm not a human' tinged.

>>714534005
Subnautica isn't too involved to mod, IIRC. It's not like FNV or CP2077 where you need to plan hours of patches, installs, and other shit. Subnautica's stuff was fairly plug and play and reminded me of how easy it is to use/not use Stardew Valley mods.

>>714533687
the sewer atmosphere is really great for spooping new players https://youtu.be/ot36fsRKOJM
good music and sound effects.

>>714525058
No one played Bioshock 2

>>714534303
I'm going to play it next week. I heard the dlc for it is good too?

>>714533896
I greatly enjoy AvP2, the marine campaign.
Another game with a similar feel to SS2.
You can have all the clips for your pulse rifle and your grenade launcher (note the accidental similarity) is loaded and ready.
But you keep hearing beeps from your motion detector and you know that unwelding this door is the only way forward...

I liked VtM:Redemption, so jank doesn't bothered me.
Still, I'll heed your advice and replay Bloodlines with modern mods.
Thank you for taking your time to answer.

>>714534362
DUDE is avp2 the one with the fucking ceiling pipe that looks like an alien when it bursts, I remember shitting myself and spraying bullets everywhere and then I actually got jumped by like 10 aliens running down the hallways. Love the motion detector sound. Perfect sounds in that game

>>714506949
They needed to find a way to shoehorn SHODAN in since they realized they needed her for the franchise mascot

>>714534167
Nah, I'm more like "ok, is it something I want to spend my life on when I could shitpost in peace?"
Say, Mechwarrior 5, a shitty F2P conversion that is quite bearable with a ton of mods.
Do I want to enable PGI? Nah, I've got MW3, I've got other games, I'm a free man.

>>714534243
You will eat ze rat and be happy.

>>714534528
Stay frosty, my man.

>>714534362
Sure, m8. On Vampire, it's not so much a mod as it is a collection of unofficial fan patches to fix the game, like with Knights of the Old Republic 2. They don't fundamentally change stuff, compared to something like the Revision mod for Deus Ex.

>>714534695
Yea, I get it. I had the same problem with CP2077 despite loving that game a lot. Modding it was just such a huge pain in the ass I decided never to bother and just stuck with the vanilla content.

Did you see it coming?

>>714534946
nope
I was legit surprised at the reveal.

>>714534834
Yeah, thank you.
I want to see that shit-eating grin in the ending again.
You know the one.

I ended up calling CP2077 "Skyrim for zoomers".
Here's to CDPR having their Starfield for zoomers.

>>714534834
>Modding it was just such a huge pain in the ass
?
for most part its just extracting .rar files in the main game folder. Only exception I can think of is Arasaka cyberarms that requires picking specific files of your liking and sending them to their designated directories. comes with instructions for dummies like me and all that

were you using some mod manager/the nexus vortex or something like that which introduced conflicts?

>>714479059
it is an improvement technically but the obvious "enhacements" are mods created for the newdark version
I dunno why people are getting so butthurt about it though

the system shock 2 fan missions like ponterbee/nightwalker and such are nice if simple continuations, "oh no shodan found a way into a new system/the many biomass attached to an escape pod and is now growing a new brain", it kind of fits into the Alien trope of sequels

>>714518643
you forget the escape pods have cryo beds, you plot a course to earth, take a deep nap, and wake up X years later, i assume the ship has some form of autopilot to not run into anything on the way

>>714535825
We're at Tau Ceti V, anon.
That's 12 light years from Earth.
Without the Delacroix engine there's no way back, only the hope to loiter around to be found by a rescue expedition (if any).

>>714534946
No, it was spoiled to me a year earlier by /v/

>>714523869
>the techs are confused why they're installing high end cybernetics into him
That's because you were on the Rickenbacker. They don't know who you are, other than that you seem to be some grunt they've never met. It's not so much that you're unknown, but the fact they're being made to create a super soldier for no reason.

>>714534946
Xerxes spoils it within the first 5 minutes

>>714536597
Isn't it implied shodan was putting the implants into you so you could do her dirty work?

>>714536683
disregard I can't read

>>714536674
>Intruder, The Many demands to know your intentions. Are you allied with her? Do you not know of her intentions? Of her history? She once tried to destroy your species, and now you do her bidding.
There's too many hints at the twist, plus The Many drops like five clues during the monologue later on

>>714537623
It was always an open secret. Her face is on the cover after all.

>>714530194
COMPLY OR DIE, SISTER.
IT'S THAT SIMPLE

Steel yourself for a struggle, human. They fear you, for you are my avatar.

https://youtu.be/4dQp8gv2KBw?t=55
I always love the newsreel in the intro video.
I feel like it does a good job at selling the existence of a larger System Shock universe.

>>714538257
It's a good glimpse to the outside world, like starcraft 1/brood war's cutscenes.

>>714461926
really pay attention to what each psy does and adjust accordingly. I had a decent time just doing the weapon upgrade one so I could use a shotgun without needing the levels.

>>714515826
I liked all those christine fan missions except the last one but I understand that one was just supposed to mostly be a silly joke. No one else has played them but they're probably the best SS2 fan missions. Shame SS2 Fan Missions never caught on like Thief Fan Missions did.

>>714535326
I remember having to install some special CDPR-created modding environment or some shit, and that's what turned me off.

>>714538210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur1RkjPPIWQ
if you're not unstoppable by the time you hear this then you actually suck at the game

>it's a self proclaimed ss2 expert still hasn't played the first game episode

>>714539581
With the remake and EE there's no excuse.
But real ones played on DOS with SZXC controls

>>714539824
i can't play SS1 withouth SZXC. the mouselook mod is overrated.

>>714538257
It's very Verhoeven-esque. Quick context for the audience and then the story starts.

>>714540070
Same. Toggling back and forth between mouselook and the hud is actually clunkier to my brain. It did make cyberspace more tolerable though.

>>714534946
I like to think that it was purposefully spoiled. Everyone talks about it right from the start of the game and she's a fuckin game cover. The tension is about figuring out what's SHODANs plan and when she will reveal herself. Sucks that she's terrible in 2nd game, does fuckin nothing except giving Xerxes a head, lucky bastard

>>714539824
played it before there was ever a mouselook mod, desu it makes it too easy and I have a sensible chuckle whenever I see people complaining about the clunkiness even in the ennhanced edition

the SS1 Enhanced Edition classic controls are still broken by default to this day btw

>>714540467
How so? I actually played the EE with classic controls recently and didn't notice anything out of place.

>>714540567
it's mostly in cyberspace. you're supposed to be able to move forward with the space bar and i think the roll bindings don't match the original either.

Do FMs work with the anniversary edition or does kex fuck it up?

>>714540698
Ah, I always just used the S key to propel forward. Roll I think was on Z and C in DOS. I can't actually remember if it stayed that way or if it was now Q and E with EE.

>>714540909
People on Nightdive's trooncord have tried and they're not compatible at the moment, apparently Nightdive is trying to implement an FMloader but Im so tired of shit like this being added post launch when the original port has it.

>>714540909
they do work but if it uses custom assets or scripting they won't be recognized properly, they say they'll fix it at some point

How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>714541949
>nah

>>714541949
Nah

>>714541949
summon a ghost skull and throw it at her

>>714541949
Forced orgasm program

>>714542260
>she's a reskin of a thief 1 ghost, transparency effect and all
I never put that together somehow

>>714534946
Shodan was on the damn boxart

wife

i'm glad other people are noticing SHODAN's avatar

>>714534946
first time playing? nah i didnt see it coming. after playing a couple more times yeah they hinted that way too much

Stop
liking
evil
WOMEN

>>714534354
No one knows.
Please report back.

>>714544334
nah

>>714530405
Was it that bad?

You just got bested by the only person capable of improving/restoring you, after you tried to kill that person in some "HA HA! GOTCHA BITCH!" moment, and the thing you do is insult the man and tell him, "he can still be your slave".
Come on, Shodan.

>>714544546
kek i love that part of the ending where she just gives you shit right before she asks you to join her

>>714544334
B-But I can fix her.

>>714542968
New Kink acquired

>>714464082
>only good for invisibility and pyro aura
Was this exploit fixed on the remaster or does it still work?

>>714534946
I was spoiled but this moment ruined Bioshock for me because it was done so much better than WYK and the rest of the game is so much better than BS. Bioshock is literally watered down SS2 worse in every capacity. I loved Bioshock before playing System Shock opened my eyes.

>>714543571
...Peridot?

>>714544714
Meh, I feel the opposite desu. WYK was pretty well hidden. But Shodans face is on the goddamn cover. I was more surpised at Diego 2 being able to de-worm himself.

>>714544714
It's funny in hindsight how Levine used the exact same twist in Thief, SS2 and Bioshock

>>714544714
I used to ride the bioshock hate train because it's watered down ss2 but honestly BS is fine for what it is, I honestly think the aesthetic is way cooler than SS2 and some of the plasmids are cool but it's still such a shame the overall complexity of SS2 was lost in translation. It plays fine as an FPS with RPG elements but SS2 is an RPG with FPS elements and it's just a better game for it. BS2 is still better than BS1 just because it's not a retread of SS2, thoughever

>hack replicator for 1 nanite junk food
>pile up food and booze in the first upgrade station area at the start
>boot up overworld zero on the gamepig
Oh yeah, it's gaming time.

>>714544583
Like she still had semblance of power over you and she is showing you mercy. LOL

>>714544635
*maxes out Repair skill*

>>714544952
BS2 is just a better game. The watered down mechanics are better when the game has tight combat. BS1 is both watered down and clunky as fuck.

>>714534946
hell no. I had the twist spoiled for me probably 5 years in advance.

Prefontaine is my negro
https://youtu.be/2BAgom3ue1I

>>714542968
I've been saving every single autohack tool I came across for this.

>>714464809
So does my gun. Both are overpowered I see no reason to go anywhere near enemies.
>>714474178
diversity of gameplay
Shoot man he dies
Stab man he dies
Wow
If you aren't exploding the entire level with a stack of 200 grenades by the Rickebacker that's a you problem.

>>714545296
>Prefontaine
>Before Fontaine
Bravo Levine

>The part in The Body of The Many where it expects you to swim TOWARDS the toxic nuclear waste

>>714545067
>Hacking the replicator replace the junk items with useful items
You didn't play the game.

>claims to be perfect
>female program

>>714545762
>sexy goddess
yeah that tracks.

>>714545762
her entire character is a big woman moment

>>714534990
>>714536674
>>714544036
>hinted
They told you. Several times. You literally have the real politos audio logs and she sounds like a person and not an asshole.

>>714545830
>I will be a goddess
Okay Shodan back into the box you go
>INSECT NOOOOOO
kek

>SS thread with no shodan in the thumbnail hitting bump limit

>>714546094
i'm sad now, good threads on /v/ are rare

>>714546094
speaking of the op image, fat boy was the guy who won the system shock contest

>>714536141
>That's 12 light years from Earth.
Plot doesn't care about reality. In the System Shock Universe it's 30 years with standard drives. There's only a 42 year gap between Citadel going boom and the events of SS2.

>>714546094
ss2 is my favorite game so it's been really comfy having this thread hit the limit desu

what sounds do the cyborg assassins make?

>>714546179
Lol that makes sense. Guy sticks out like a sore thumb when everyone else looks like either a model or some rugged space dude.

>>714460832 (OP)
why does he look like dunkey

>>714546094
Few months back I saw Thief thread hitting bump limit. Sometimes /v/ is alright.

>>714546318
>SS1
>EEEERRRUUUHHH
>SS2
mo ti bo bibi

>>714546715
keep

last for shodan sex