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Lets fix that owlkekbros

Love this greedy dork.

Give me your canon origins for convictions. For me its
commisar> dogmatic
sanctioned psyker> iconokek
noble> heretical

Blowing up x*no scum with Heavy Bolter never gets old

>>714570375
The canon I have is that well I play navy I play bladedancer for that swashbuckling feel.

I have no clue what im doing, is this a good start?

>>714575802
Yeah, it's hard to go wrong
Just keep in mind how you level up your party members later on, since they need to make up for your weaknesses and vice versa
Have fun anon

Man, Thassera is a wacky place.

>>714572417
Worthless fanart considering Owlcat bitched out of Argenta romance in RT and went further bitching out of attractive women even existing in DH.

>>714578140
Speaking of fanart, does rt have a mod that gives npcs custom portraits? Theres one for wotr and its pretty dope

>you can only change Solomorne's conviction if you take him to Cumrag
>and only if you have a rank 3 conviction
No other character is like this, why did they do it

>>714580263
Why did they do anything Solomorne in the first place?

>>714580263
Sorry bro, only Kiberah-sama gets to shift her conviction gradually through her entire questline

>>714568079 (OP)
i want argenta to spit in my mouth bros

>>714580387
I actually like him, that's why I don't get why the fuck he's getting the Argenta treatment of having a barebones questline even though he's a DLC character

>>714575802
Very subtle name

can i play this shit yet or do i need to wait for the new dlc?

>>714582823
The new DLC isn't coming out until next year, just play it

I still have no fucking idea how Ship Ult. cooldown works
I heard it's based on warp routes?
Others says it recharges slowly per battle
what the fuck it seems to take ages to get recharged to the point I never use the 3x Torpedos at once out of fear I won't have it on a battle I actually need it for

>>714568079 (OP)
Ok. What's the deal with the Oedanathus XI vagrant event? Is he legit or what?

>>714582823
Don't play yet, they're releasing a massive 1.5 update in 1-2 months.

>>714570002
Does the Rogue Trader, part of an established dynasty, only have a fucking escort as their flagship?

That was the dumbest shit ever.

>>714580263
What characters are most important mechanically to take to Cumrag to follow up their plot threads?

>>714581160
>I actually like him, that's why I don't get why the fuck he's getting the Argenta treatment of having a barebones questline even though he's a DLC character
Because the Owlkek devs are russian (hiding out overseas for tax purposes) and ripping the consumer off is their natural state of being.

>>714584383
Solomorne, Argenta and whoever you romanced

Put 80 hours into the game when it first came out. Worth picking up where I left off or starting over for the dlc stuff/changes?

Thassera should at least have been made into a new Colony
It's ridiculous how Lex has way less content than Void Shadows despite taking fucking way longer to release

>>714586270
They halfass it constantly, that's why the game is still a bug-ridden mess even after all this time

>>714581160
You've been told why already, it's because he's not Kibellah, they'll never put the same effort with the other DLCs like they did with Kibellah

All the companions we're getting are shit that's more suited to a Emperor-worshipping Inquisitor, when are we gonna get some dlc goons that take advantage of a Rogue Traders warrant.

>>714587108
probably in the next DLCs
Trazyn's vault and a space hulk are more suited to fucking weirdos

>>714587428
If we don't get an Ork out of a space hulk then this is nothing but con-artistry.
Though they'll be probably stripping stuff out of RT updates to hold it back for the next 40k RPG they're making now, like how it has a Kroot party member.

Combat in general in this game is terrible.

The main problem with RT is that the combat is fucking boring, even for a TB enjoyer like myself, because it doesn't feel like you're making decisions. What the combat feels most like, is a card game, where you can build your deck the way you want and always draw the same opening hand, with that opening hand always being a one-turn-victory. So every single fight is exactly the same, it doesn't even feel like playing a game.

They try to get around this by making fights with phases, or triggered immunities that force fights to take more than 1 round, but that's just lame.

There are too many ways to do a million damage in one turn in this stupid combat system. To make it even worse, building characters and leveling is fucking boring as well. We have all these hundreds of talents are not only extremely specific, but also completely fucking pointless; I don't even really level 4 of my companions after act 3, because they never get to do anything anyway. I just pick whatever talent happens to be at the top of the list and go with that, it literally doesn't matter.

The Pathfinder games are the same way; the combat is fucking boring, because you just do the same exact overpowered shit in every single fight. Just buff your OTK-guy and then OTK the entire screen. You got all these stats and talents and classes, and it doesn't matter; it's all a mirage, just completely pointless and a waste of your time to read or think about. The combat may as well only be there in these titles so that they don't get classified as point-and-click games.

>>714587108
You'll get more dogmatic humans, while DH will get a bunch of heretics and xenos

>>714590435
Wouldn't be surprising considering how shit the company is

>>714591005
They're shit and yet you play their games and browse their threads, curious

>>714591047
2/10

>>714586851
All the budget went to Void shadows and the rest of the DLCs will be of lesser quality because of it.
Not that I mind though. Kibbles is the best.

>>714584318
Agreed. Should have been a cruiser at least. Also, given the fact that the von Valencius dynasty is old enough to have had their warrant signed by Big E, it's a good excuse to give the player a Great Crusade-era cruiser with all sorts of wacky tech.

Is subby arbites the best origin to dual wield power mauls?

>>714591357
They make you fight entire enemy fleets in the shitty escort too, like you say having a Cruiser (or better) from the great crusade with all sorts of bullshit would have made more sense.

>>714586270
That's where I thought they were going with those speech checks you can pass as "Maive", like getting them all would make it smoother for the RT to take over after.

>>714585960
At 80 hours youre in act 2 most likely, so you can just do both DLCs

>enemy is Celestial Lord

>I HATE INVENTORY MANAGEMENT
I HATE INVENTORY MANAGEMENT
>I HATE INVENTORY MANAGEMENT
I HATE INVENTORY MANAGEMENT

>an advanced shield is a shield with more prayers on it
????
I kekd the first time but I feel like the average 21st century human would suffer an aneurysm when they see the state of things in 40k
imagine the door not opening for you because you didn't fondle the fleshy dude that serves as the lock

>>714593418
>imagine the door not opening for you because you didn't fondle the fleshy dude that serves as the lock
I read a doujin like that once

>>714593418
Bear in mind that 40k is a universe where "belief makes it true" is in effect.

>>714593418
>imagine the door not opening for you because you didn't fondle the fleshy dude that serves as the lock
isn't that how you get into the brothel in alushinyrra

>$15 for a dog
???

>>714594442
it's so not worth it even if you like the arbites in 40K

Am I just bad or is Overseer just garbage? Aside from being able to aoe buff, I can't really get any use out of it. Solomorne is better off using his AP for his own attacks, the dog sucks.

Man Jae can do some insane damage as Master Tactician and the holster. BRAAAAAAAAP

>>714594587
It's great and I'm having fun with it, only bad thing is that Solomorne joins way too late
>B-B-BUT it's not as good as my waifu Kibbles' DLC
Still good, a dance of masks wasn't as good as the last sarkorians either

>don't have rank 2 icono going into act 3 for the first time
>can't succeed in disrupting the "trial" without it
>the guy tells Marazhai to fuck off anyway
lmao so what was the point

Who needs Abelard when you can have Heinrix with psyber-raven, shield, force sword, heavy armor and shit tons of buffs for the entire party

>>714595101
Master Tactician just does insane damage, it has nothing to do with Jae. MT is easily the best secondary archetype in the game, the fact that it heavily outperforms Arch Militant even when using Soldier, which should be the ideal combo, is yet more proof Owlcat have no clue whatsoever how to implement balanced class design.

>>714594880
The general sentiment regarding the pets is
>Dog is bad
>Servo skull swarm is garbage
>Raven is good
>Eagle is god tier

>>714595101
Jae is unironically one of the most useful companions. Too bad she is an obnoxious bitch

>>714594880
The more the cyber mastiff moves, the more damage it deals. The 2 AP cost is too much though, it should have been 1

>can't take the fragile woman from that feudal world as your concubine after declaring Exterminatus
Shit DLC

>>714595527
>officer
>insane skill monkey
>can still pump out decent damage as well
Jae is bae

>>714595992
She does pump a lot of things...

>>714595330
Why hold Hein back by making him a buff machine? He can win every encounter in one turn and gets first move in the initiative every time, combat is a solved problem with him around

>>714596042
whatever do you mean by this, Shereen

>>714595527
Main problem with Jae gameplay-wise is that unless you want to fully Officermaxx she's competing for that role in the party with Cassia, who is just on another level.

>>714596234
Two officers isn't bad. I find that you really don't need more than 2 or 3 damage dealers. Ideally you just want your officers to keep giving extra turns to your strongest party member.

>>714596171
Because I want to.

>>714595308
illusion of rp

>>714596171
>Why hold Hein back by making him a buff machine? He can win every encounter in one turn
I have him as a buff machine and he still wins things in one turn for me

>new run for dlc
>go through footfall
>open up the world map
>drive to keep going plummets
is solomorne worth it

>>714575802
Who the fuck names their son Hereticus?

>>714596171
>gets first move in the initiative every time
He definitely does not

>>714597243
the same guy who runs into battle with a RT screaming I SERVE THE RUINOUS POWAHS

>>714597239
Depends on how much of a waifufag you are I guess, he's okay
The first three quests of the DLC were fun though

>>714597274
That's where this guy comes in

did Ulfar's VA really troon out

>>714597243
the same sick fuck who names their kid Daemon Primarch

>>714597667
https://x.com/OliverSmithVAVO

>>714597243
>Hello I am Liar Darkfalse, I am here to interview for the position of Grand Vizier

>>714597752
Chadrok taught me never to judge others for superficial traits. Abelard, hire this man.

>>714597745
>literally becoming an Votary of Tzeentch in real life

>>714594442
Idk I paid 15 for both DLCs since Season Pass and DLC1 used to be exactly same price lol

>>714597239
No. It's a much lesser DLC than Void Shadows, the content is decent, but it's lesser in every way, both in playtime and scope. You would be better off waiting for the big combat balance patch they're doing soon, at least, and personally I would say it's best to hold off until the next season of DLC altogether to do a full replay. Lex Imperialis is amusing, but it's not worth replaying the entirety of RT for.

>>714598443
>big combat balance patch they're doing soon
what, haven't they done that already

>>714597672
Kek

>>714598605
They're doing it again, since the combat in the game is still terrible and you still end up one shotting everything in a round or two if you build your characters half-decently, even on Unfair. I sincerely doubt it's going to fix the problem though, they would have to redesign the combat and character building outright to really fix the core issues plaguing both.

should I romance Jimmi or Kibbles for my glorious run

>>714568079 (OP)
Which is the best starting archetype for every non-psyker origin?
>>crime lord - operative
>>noble - officer

>>714599327
Kibellah is the one you can actually have go Glorious alignment with you on her Synchronicity route, so I would say her.

Just how powerful is the Rogue Trader as a psyker?

>>714600451
>sanctioned
Meh

>>714570375
I dunno Sanctic Sanctioned psyker + the devout voicelines make a strong case for dogmatic. If anything iconoclast is probably coming from former position of power like navy or AM commander.

>>714595485
Whats the best skills on eagle

Is strafe any good really?

>>714594880
Raven is god mode for both buffing and damage Psykers
Skull is great on buffer Officers and yes, spreading Voice of Command + Air of Authority is busted
Dog is shit and Eagle has damage but it's who cares tier when damage characters would rather go Raven if Psyker or Master Tactician/Assassin if something else

>>714584318
It's a super tuned frigate brimming with archaeotech to be fair

Cybereagle > cyber raven >>>>> skullball >>>>> mastiff.

>>714602667
the eagle is weak against chaos

>>714602667
All of the pets are honestly worthless, Overseer is a wasted archetype. You're better off rolling just about anything else.

>>714602667
Can't the eagle only hit adjacent enemies
sounds boring having to herd them with Cassia when you could just be blowing shit up with Raven and Relay

>dogs are obviously the most popular animals
>the companion uses a dog
>most people that'll play arbites will want to use a dog
>it's shit
They did on purpose, didn't they?

>>714600451
40k's power scaling for psykers has essentially no limits , he's like a C tier psyker at most like most sanctioned psykers. Malcador could literally choke a primarch out when he felt pissy and teleport an entire moon in the warp and even he is mid. Keep in mind that the eldar at one point could use their psyker powers to construct literal gods as tools and the Emperor's powers are unbelievably powerful to the point here nobody really knows.

>>714600451
extremely weak

ive been playing the game by skipping through dialogue as fast as possible, moving around the game with the map open and just running through traps and healing afterwards, googling all the quest solutions, following other people's build guides etc.

i got to commoragh and just blew through it until the spire of the tempest where i found out that if i leave i leave behind heinrix and cassia which i didnt bother rescuing, nor the space marine i didnt recruit.

i cant leave the spire to go back down and my save games dont go back that far, so ive quit. im partially to blame, but at the same time, ive played like 30 hours and before now i havent come across something with as much finality as this, you take a flight up to the spire thanks to some dark eldar pilot, you would just assume they will be standing there ready to fly you back down too

think is my first owlkike experience too, and probably the last

>>714603556
It's reparations for Dog being the best in Wrath

>>714603837
What's the point of making retarded posts like this one?

>>714604334
unlike you i post ontopic replies to threads about actual videogames

>>714603837
Tough luck buddy
Try out BG3 instead
Seems right down your alley

>>714604586
This isn't the epic own you think it is, BG3 does the same thing, in fact I would argue it does it way more than any Owlcat game

would Jack Garland fit in well in the 40k universe

Anyone done a playthrough closely mirroring any of the reflections from the finale?

>>714604586
yeah i dont really care, game was too simple and easy to get invested in learning any of it, just took me by surprise that you could zone out of an area without any message or dialogue box announcing that there was zero going back, especially considering its a completely unremarkable zone change, from a lower to upper level of a building

>>714603335
dunno about the others but the servoskull lets you cast analyze enemies on a group, pairing extremely well with aoe attacks

>>714604983
I'm planning on doing a glorious run after my glowie simp one but I'm undecided on a build

What does a sanctioned psyker even mean? Do they fuck with your brain or something?

Lex Imperialis was all right. But it was a lesser DLC compared to Void Shadows, and definitely not worth another playthrough just to see its contents. I think I'm done with Rogue Trader now. The upcoming DLC - if they're like Lex Imperialis - won't be enough to get me to do yet another run.

But bring on Dark Heresy. Any guesses when the alpha starts?

>>714606419
it's just psykers who were screened and tested to see if theyre stable enough to not fall for demonic possession easily. someone like idira wouldve been used as one of the thousand human psykers sacrificed daily to keep the emperor going

>>714606854
So being sanctioned or unsanctioned means fuck all when it comes to power?

>>714606219
Depends how much you want to deviate. IIRC the reflection is a sword + pistol soldier/AM

>>714606945
An unsanctioned psyker is possibly stronger than a sanctioned one

>>714606945
unsanctioned can be stronger if only because theyre sitting on the edge of demonic possession whereas psykers going through the sanctioning process at that stage are all pruned

>>714606945
It's more about whether or not you've been professionally trained to use your powers "safely". Being a Sanctioned psyker means that you have the official Imperium stamp of Not-Heresy so the citizenry aren't allowed to burn you at the stake without a good reason (in theory).

>>714606419
Psykers are kind of dangerous in 40K so they are regularly hunted down and brought to Terra
There 1000 of them are sacrificied to the Golden Throne every day to keep the big lighthouse shining and if there is a surplus of psykers some of them are tested and trained to serve the Imperium's forces as sanctioned psykers
Employing unsanctioned psykers is a bit risky because you never know whether they're actually loyal to you and the Imperium at large. Also they could blow up at any time and rip a hole into reality that connects straight to hell
It's also super duper illegal because of the reality shredding danger inherent to their powers

I haven't played any of the DLC but then I think of the prison shit and don't want to replay this game at all.

why the fuck does crimelord start with weapon skill

>>714608532
I'm going to assume that you mean cumrag

>>714603837
>>714605086
2/10

>>714608584
yeah

>>714606568
>Any guesses when the alpha starts?
Do we even know when their new games are supposed to come out? Next year?

I got Rogue Trader from the Humble Bundle.
I wanted to wait till the definitive edition is out for all the DLCs. should I still wait, or is buying the first season pass for the first 2 story dlcs okay?
I know a second season pass it out now, how many more are to come?

>>714606854
>wouldve

i sent that mouthy bitch to the inquisition the instant i got the chance

>>714609221
First two DLC are fine. Realistically you're waiting at least another year for the other two DLC and a couple months more for bug fixes

>>714609221
>I wanted to wait till the definitive edition is out for all the DLCs. should I still wait, or is buying the first season pass for the first 2 story dlcs okay?
The only DLC worth getting is Void Shadows but the season pass is almost the same price as the DLC alone so you might as well get the pass
>I know a second season pass it out now, how many more are to come?
The second season pass has no content in it right now it's just a promise for the future, no point in buying unless you're a hardcore supporter that wants to fund future developments. It's very unlikely but not impossible that there will be a third

I just played this for my whole day off, shit is really good. Reminds me a lot of Shadowrun Dragonfall but with a bit more production value. The level up system in this game is great too, it's frequent enough that you feel like you're making progress/building toward something but not so frequent they feel insignificant.
Just got the Adeptus Mechanicus guy, already like this dude. This is my first time ever absorbing anything 40k related, any grognards here that can weigh in on how good of a starting point this game is for the setting at large?

>>714609221
Wotr got its goty edition with all the content bundled after 4 or 5 years. Might as well play now, who knows when the other dlc will come out or even if they'll be worth the wait.
They're working on 2 other games and its very possible they've spread themselves too thin

>>714609581
I started of with rt and space marine 1. SM gave me fuck all as far as lore is concerned, while rt is a lot better in that regard, with all the codex entries or whatever they're called and in general theres plenty of text explaining basic shit like you've been living under a rock since birth. From there i went digging through wiki for whatever i thought was interesting.

>>714609221
Both DLCs are good, the first one is better but ignore the people that tell you the second one is shit, they're waifufags mad that they didn't get another dolly to fuck. The next two DLCs aren't coming out until next year so you might as well play it now, or wait until they make a patch to rebalance the combat which is apparently coming soon, although I wouldn't recommend it because if you're new you're not going to break the game in half like the autists here do (unless you follow a guide, which you shouldn't)

>>714609581
>Just got the Adeptus Mechanicus guy, already like this dude
Pasqal is a good guy, treat him well.
>how good of a starting point this game is for the setting at large?
It's pretty good, most things only grognards would know are explained in a way that reflects how much knowledge your characters would have in-universe. Things are always explained enough that you have some sort of idea what you're dealing with but very rarely are you given info from an all-knowing observer perspective.
A lot of terminology and some of the intricacies of the setting will probably fly way over your head when you first start playing but by the end of your playthrough you will have a good grasp on things

>>714609876
>If you're new you're not going to break the game in half
lol
lmao
Bullshit, you break the game easily without following a guide or picking meta classes or whatever, if you just have half a brain in building your characters the games combat completely falls apart and becomes a joke by mid Act 2 at the latest. Don't lie to that dude, this isn't a combat system where you have to do some super special OP build to break it, it just falls apart on its own.

>>714610079
>be pyromancer with a big sword
>light myself on fire like any sane imperial citizen would
>hit things with big sword
>things die
God i love this combat

>>714609489
>>714609556
>>714609683
>>714609876
aight thanks for the responses, I'll probably grab the first season pass later.
currently dining on nuggies

Solomorne's boss looks like norf fc.

>>714610524
>'ate pirates
>'ate tithe thieves
>'ate xenos
>'ate 'eretics
>'ate muties
>'ate tha rabble
>'ate that poofta govnah
>simple as

I don't play owlcat games for the riveting combat PFtranny

>2025
>Sanctif Staff & Emperor's Wrath remain unnerfed

>>714593898
>"belief makes it true"
No, not exactly. Psychic energy (which is amplified by strong willpower and/or emotion) can generate and imprint ideas into the Warp, which can reflect upon the material world. So belief on its own does nothing, it *has to* be backed by a sufficiently powerful and/or widespread physic energy, which is why the this phenomenon is the strongest with orks, who are genetically modified mushroom colonies that amplify each others' latent psionic radiation. It takes billions, if not trillions of humans to achieve "belief makes it true" effects, where it takes orders of magnitude less orks (even more so for eldar, who actually lost their ability to effectively do this at all) to do so.

>>714611017
you can't nerf the Emperor anon

>>714597752
You're hired!

Just bought the base game on steam, should i buy all the dlc, or only the first expansion? Any beginner tips?

>>714603335
>>714602667
The Cyber Raven is the only option that actually is the "best possible class choice" for a certain kind of character role, that being buff psyker. All of the other pets are just damage dealers, but they're way worse at dealing damage than just picking a different class. In terms of trying to make an optimized character, Raven is the only one that will ever have any value.

Just being able to easily cast Warp Speed on your entire party in one turn is very strong, and the other single target buffs aren't too bad either.

>>714611669
the way the DLC works is that it adds the new missions as part of the normal game progression sprinkled throughout the entire game. If you think you'll only play through the game once you should just get both DLC and play it all at once.

As for beginner tips, there are tons of broken builds and overpowered combos so just keep your eyes open and try to spot them. Be careful about spamming psyker powers too much or demons will appear and rape your ass unless you're good at managing the bar

How do I get more people into my protectorate? It's the only project resource I run out of with no idea on how to replenish it

>>714612093
>Daemons will appear and
And get one shot just like everything else, don't act like you have to give a fuck about the warp bar.

>>714612348
Did you waste all your humans on those shitty conctracts? If you're still in the early acts just wait until later acts. You unlock more contracts and projects, you should probably be some that give you more population. There are also a bunch of various projects that give population from the start, like repairing the hive city or some of the options in the prison planet

>>714612730
Do you understand that people that are new to the game will actually have difficulty with it? Everyone used to cry about Aurora, Yremeryss and Uralon

>>714612730
Daemons are pretty annoying to deal with in chapter 1 and can easily wipe your party. Knocking your entire party prone also sucks.

Past chapter 1 though yeah they don't matter any more

>>714611669
Void Shadows is a must buy imo. Not only it includes two factions on your ship (Death Cults are rarely approached in the setting), but the whole investigation plot is interesting. It also extends your voidship to make you discover the life onboard, with different sectors.

Oh and of course Kibellah as a companion. Kibellah is a beast. Kibellah is love.

>>714577958
I'm glad they made it a feudal world, it's a nice change

>>714613230
It's hilarious how broken she is. She literally breaks some encounters in half.

They seriously thought people would buy a dlc with a negro and his mecha shitbull?
And why the fuck did they think the game needed more companions, for that matter? If anything it should have been a strictly heretic follower you can get early.

I've already played the game three times. I doubt I have more than one run in me before it gets stale. And I'm not going to waste that run on a brownoid dlc.

>>714613690
She's stupid during the early game. Death Waltz and DFA practically murk groups of pirates, cultists and thugs.

>>714613230
Kibbles love!

>>714613230
She's clearly not popular given there's about 5 porn pictures of her on the internet in total.

>>714585345
Actually, I think it's better to not bring Kibellah to Commorragh if you romance her. The reunion with her on the ship is sweeter.

>>714613827
I don't care that he's black but I find it really annoying how much of a faggot the character is about his stupid dog.
He has seemingly no control over the thing and it constantly mauls random passerby seemingly every few minutes and he always just comes up with some shitty excuse about how it's not the heckin good dogos fault that he's ripped off the tenth random civilians hand today.
Also him being a shitbull mommy seems to be the only characterization that they bothered to give him aside from also being a cop.

>>714614290
The game is niche.

Bed warmer.

>>714614290
Its the same for all characters from owlkeks. Its all swarmfaggotry man...

Can I still max out Dogmatic if I don't take every single Dogmatic choice? I don't mean the main decisions I've been sticking with those, but I just met Yrliet and I didn't immediately shoot her dead because as much as I do enjoy the Dogmatic choices I don't exactly want to remove content for myself.

>>714614418
Yeah I actually despise the new character, imagine a gigantic simp, except instead of being a simp for a girl, it's for his dog. That's his character. His entire "trauma" in Commoragh is that the Dark Eldar messed with his dog. Utterly shit companion.

>next DLC is about Trollzyn

>>714614627
They supposedly rebalanced that shit so you dont have to take the same conviction every time to max it out. No idea if its true, you never know with owlcat

>>714614627
>Failing to shoot the worst written and most annoying character Owlcat ever created
Man dude you are hard fucking yourself. And no it's not hard to get max Dogmatic points even if you don't take every option, at least now, since the DLC added so many points where you can increase your conviction.

>>714614418
>I don't care that he's black
>Continues to to describe all the black person things he does that annoys you

>>714609221
Even third season of dlcs may happen, so it's not worth it to wait. Beat it now with dlcs and then replay after 2 years with updates and 2 or 4 more dlcs and see what changed and improved.
>>714609581
>The level up system in this game is great too, it's frequent enough that you feel like you're making progress/building toward something but not so frequent they feel insignificant.
This is actually annoying for many people, especially when your team grows in size and you have all those companions you have to level frequently.
I like it too, but there is indeed simply something about this skill circle and the way they all are listed that makes it tiring to scroll through
>>714609683
They are working on 4 games right now. Dark Heresy cRPG, Expanse aRPG like Mass Effect, two still secret cRPGs (although those probably are in preproduction state still) and 2 more dlcs (at least) for Rogue Trader
>>714611669
dlcs are perfectly and seamlessly integrated into a base game, there is no reason to not play with them. Honestly Jae, a base game companion, feels more like dlc character than nigger and goth gf from dlcs. Get season pass since it's cheaper than buying even last dlc separately, maybe getting that steam bundle is even better, but I can't check it.

>>714614854
I've barely spoken to her but I refuse to believe she's worse than Nenio

>>714613827
>They seriously thought people would buy a dlc with a negro and his mecha shitbull?
Yes, despite how vocal you are, most people don't actually consider it a dealbreaker to not have a new dolly to fuck

Theres too many companions in the game now, there i said it

>>714614993
He's going to tell you that she's worse than Nenio because she doesn't represent her faction properly

>>714614627
Yes, I did a full dogmatic run with Yrliet as romance pre-Lex dlc. Also there are colony projects that pop up with based on your alignment that give 30 points when completing them.

>>714615098
Not when 2 of them are locked 60h in the game and the most recent one is 20-30h in

>>714614998
it has 2k less players than darktide or space marine 2, both of which were just updated with new content aswell, impressive, then again darktide is garbage

>>714614418
>it constantly mauls random passerby
The moment I lost my temper and told him to fuck off with his beast was when it attacked Vigdis. Do not fuckin maim the vox girl!

>>714614934
He's lying you too because the dog is a servitor with no feelings, the only times it bites someone is when they get too close and touchy, and at that point you have no one to blame but yourself, just like real life
probably a seething Vigdisfag, sorry man, your bald waifu shouldn't have tried to pet and feed the cyber pitbull, it's common sense

>>714615276
Well like another anon said Rogue Trader is a lot more niche than Darktide or Space Marine 2

>>714615276
>it has 2k less players than extremely popular mainsteam games not in a niche like CRPGs
wow good job owning yourself, retard

>>714614854
>>714614627
I intentionally went along with Yrliet so that I could then give her over to the inquisition via jimmy later which gives a chunk of dogmatic too, I wonder which one gives more. I'm trying to get the achievement for handing all 3 companions over to jimmy this run

>>714615354
>extremely popular mainsteam games
>19k peak
lmao are you retarded, sperg? That was my first post itt btw, this, second.

>>714614627
Funny enough, you can spare the asuryani on Janus with a dogmatic option (you need to pass a persuasion check tho).
It's possible to be dogmatic and still be close to Yrliet. That means you're basically a Xeno Hybris radical, so still dogmatic but not a complete retard

>>714615318
>>714615310
lol

>>714615452
>sperg
go back to the farms, troon faggot

>>714615534
autistic raging virgin sperg

>>714614854
>>714615375
>>714615476
Out of interest would I be missing much if I through pic related out the airlock? She is the only character I actually find annoying to be honest

>>714614993
She's worse, easily the most annoying cunt and retarded fuckup imaginable. Honestly repulsive trash in every way. Feel free to find out the hard way though.

>>714615452
>plays the Brown Person Pretend Stock Market™
>can't even read his own data correctly
o I am laffin

>>714597745
Shit being a space wolf does to a guy... MAGNUS DID NOTHING WRONG!

>>714615318
>>714615310

>>714615557
not enough word salad, Farms faggot. Try for at least a 6 combo.

>>714615645
>>714615675
autistic insecure brown retards

>>714615318
Look at the post above yours. The fucking faggot ordered his shitbull to stalk your comms officer and then when she tried to shoo it away it tried to rip off her arm. Also, sending off something unsupervised that will maim anyone who accidently touches or bumps into it is not reasonable behavior.
And besides that, how is everyone supposed to know that if you touch this thing it will tear of your arm? There are thousands of servators roaming the ship that dont' cause any issue if you touch them, there's no reason for anyone to suspect that the shitbull will freak out if you get too close.

>>714615605
No, her companion quest is pretty boring, just kill her or turn her over to the Inquisition.

>>714615710
you going to cry, Farmsbitch? Josh can't save you here

>>714615713
He's constantly warning people not to get too close

>>714615739
youre literally schizophrenic, are you american? Circumsized brown retard

>>714615798
>crying bitchboy instantly starts thinking about cocks out of nowhere
HAHA

>>714615635
>She's worse
Wrong. Yrliet leads you to Commoragh. And Commorragh is easier to deal with than this MOTHERFUCKIN PYRAMID PIECE OF SHIT! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

>>714615605
I like her
Taking her and Argenta with you to act 3 together allows you to discover one plot point, even if it isn't that important

>>714615628
If only.

>>714615829
youre an autistic brown schizo that has replied to me almost 10 times with nothing but seethe when I said RT having 17k players is impressive, youre so sad it boggles my mind

>>714615781
He often waits to warn them until after they've already been mauled, and he also very frequently sends the dog off unsupervised to patrol, in which cause it's literally physically impossible for him to warn people.

>>714615901
>boo hoo hoo..steam charts...spergs...big juicy cocks...boo hoo hoo
got anything else, faggot? You're just repeating yourself now.

>killed the quirky black (heretic)
>killed the elf on sight (xenos)
>killed the gayer elf on sight (xenos)
>never even spoke to the disgusting space gypsy (pirate)

My only regret is that I did not get to cleanse the heretic taint of the last one with my flamer, but it would have meant playing along with her stupid shit which was not happening.

>>714615884
Yeah...

>>714615957
youre so fucking autistic and sad and weird its crazy, you should be locked up in a looney bin.

>>714615674
>Oh I'll FUCK the fish!

Is it just because I'm new or does Ironclast really not suit the setting of this game? It feels far too nice considering I thought this was supposed to be the grim dark future, doesn't seem all that grim and dark to be saving people and handing out food instead of punishments.

>>714616038
you're going to cry, hilarious.

>>714616069
youre insanely retarded its mind boggling

>>714616152
so how often do you think about penis in a given day?

>>714616236
cancer, autistic brown cancer.

>Daring Voice
>use AoE ability that explodes and kills multiples enemies at once
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
Only Argenta feels better when killing enemies due to her joyful glee at dispatching filth

>>714613230
>drowns you
>cuts you
>sews your eyes closed
>loves you so much she can't focus and needs to pray

>>714616282
we don't sign our posts here, Farms tourist

>>714614418
>the only characterization that they bothered to give him aside from also being a cop
Isn't that every character, including the most popular ones like Argenta and Abelard?

>>714616370
Abelard announces me though and it's funny

>>714616318
youre schizophrenic and retarded

>>714614584
the fact that you can't actually take her to your bed is criminal

>>714616440
you're having a meltdown and it makes me laugh more and more

>>714616060
The problem with iconoclast in this setting is that due to demons and witches being real, being too kind hearted can actually lead to an entire planet getting corrupted and millions of people being raped forever by demons. The protentional negative cost of a single act of mercy is absurdly disproportionally horrific.

Going full Iconoclast is extremely bad in this game. Just as one example, wasting time saving people on the planet instead of doing exterminatus results in a huge amount of people being sucked into the warp to become demonic fucktoys which is way worse than just dying. You overall increase human suffering a LOT if you go iconoclast in that case.

There are still plenty of times where it's the best choice, though. There are times where being merciful or kind is the best option with no downside and the dogmatic option is pretty much just killing someone for no reason.

>>714616313
>>loves you so much she can't focus and needs to pray
This shit was so cringe

>>714616543
youre the one having a meltdown, retarded sperg

>>714616549
False. Name a single time the Dogmatic choice "kills for no reason". There is always a reason.

>>714616580
>n..no u..
LOL well I broke it, it was fun while it lasted. Stay crying, faggot. This game is still niche btw and still sold extremely well, no matter how mad that simple fact makes you.

>>714615276
Are there really retards sperging out at this post that was actually praising this game for managing to have a player count comparable to more mainstream games?

>>714616672
youre so RETARDED you dont REALIZE I was on your side of the argument from the beggining. RETARD. LMAO. Youre insanely insecure and retarded. Sperg.

>>714616060
It's painfully naive often which leads to bad results in many cases. Still, game should be even harsher with it, but it should exists imo. The most logical playthrough is to mix dogmatic and iconoclast anyway, not picking naive iconocuck options, not picking dogmatard senseless murder ones and being pro Inquisition

>>714616568
shut up bitch

>>714616713
no, there's a Farms tourist moron crying and seething because someone agreed but he can't read (gossiping faggots don't prioritize reading comprehension)

>>714616301
I usually go with the Pious voice. The female version is even more insane than the male one, but I love the lines either way.

>"No suffering will make me forget His sacred words...Burn the heretic! Kill the mutant! PURGE THE UNCLEAN!"
>"Make the macrocanons sing their deadly litany!"
>[chant] "The divine watches over us!"

>>714616713
yes lol he is, its crazy
>>714616848
RETARDED SPERG LMAO

>>714616771
>I am SO not MAD and CAPITALIZING random WORDS I am so so SO not NOT mad
lmao

Between this and Wrath of the Righteous which should I buy during the steam sale?

>>714616863
It's by far the best. I wish they added more voices, there are too few of them.

>>714616887
caps lock is cruise control for cool

>>714616891
youre insanely retarded kid. Fuck you. Gonna go watch a movie with my gf. Enjoy your sad night and sad little life. Fucking retard, its hilarious coming across someone as retarded as you. Clown

>>714616943
WotR but I will admit I like Kingmaker more

>>714616370
argenta's characterization is that she's devoutly religious, she has made major blunders in the past that she wants to repent for, and she's extremely bloodthirsty hidden behind a veil of righteousness. This is all somewhat interesting. Abelard has the characteristics of being an old salt with a long record who's mired by old ways of thinking but is willing to be flexible and adapt. This also can lead to some interesting dynamics. He manages to seem extremely loyal without coming off as a boot liker.

Meanwhile Solomorne is just a by-the-books cop with no real quirks. He feels extremely one-dimensional and predictable. Even compared to the relatively simple character of Abelard he feels extremely bland

>>714616965
>youre insanely retarded kid. Fuck you. Gonna go watch a movie with my gf. Enjoy your sad night and sad little life. Fucking retard, its hilarious coming across someone as retarded as you. Clown
holy shit he blew his top

>>714617000

>>714616891
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>I was baiting
>u mad lol??
retarded brown sperg, most likely a tranny

>>714616786
>pro Inquisition
>no senseless murder
does not compute

>>714617068
Better exploration; no shitty wanna-be strategy game, game flow isn't deadstopped by going to a different world for a chapter, better cast.
It's a lot of subjective stuff, for sure.

>>714617000
>WORT over RT
>WORT over Kingmaker
what bizarre tastes you have

>>714614418
he's exactly like a real shitbull owner!

>>714617109
I thought you were going to go watch a movie with your totally real girlfriend, cool guy? Oh wait, sorry:
I THOUGHT you were GOING to go WATCH a movie with YOUR totally REAL girlfriend, COOL GUY?

>>714617050
there are multiple people laughing at you itt and youre still coping and being a full blown retard, hilarious

>>714617165
Kingmaker over WOTR I meant but still very strange tastes

>>714617225
>>714617219

>>714617161
There is one thing I definitely like more in KM, it's its vibes. The game feels cozy, rural. When WotR is "colder"

>>714617219
why are you typing like Valanon

>>714616786
you're a rogue trader, not a member of the astartes. literally anything goes and you're defying the emperor's intention with them by not getting crazy with it

>>714617251
Not that guy but Kingmaker is 100% a better game than WotR.

>>714617219
youre still replying and its hard to stop watching such a virgin retard make a fool out of himself, how sad is your life you underaged retard?

>>714617309
The guy I am talking to types like that so I'm trying to help him understand things better. Valerie sucks.

>>714617374
Must've been a short movie with your 'girlfriend' Mr. Hand, eh?

>>714617113
Our Lord Inquisitor is just too based and right to not like him

Are the DLC's good? I see they're 50% off now. I played this a while ago but got distracted for some reason and stopped playing very early in the story, like on the very first planet.

>>714617251
I like Kingmaker better than WOTR too, I don't like the mythic power system it encourages too much metagaming with your class.

I was kinda enjoying this thread until the schizo shit flinging started

>>714617436
Chadcazar

>>714617371
Let me guess you also think BG1 is better than BG2

>>714617383
youre a massive sperg and a retard, you will most likely be a virgin until you are 30 years old, enjoy your pathetic retarded life where you find it amusing being retarded and arguing like a retard in bad faith. Clown

>>714617442
>>714617371
fuck year, my Kingmaker bros. I fully admit my opinion is in the minority. Most people like the epic scale of WotR more, and I do like the game, just not quite as much is all.

>>714617442
Void Shadows is a must buy, not too sure about Lex Imperialis at the moment

>>714617442
void shadows is great, lex imperialis is ok

>>714617521
bro, your movie? Your girlfriend? Did she stand you up? What are you still doing here seething for?
LOL

>>714617442
Yes, they're both good

>>714617442
I agree with the other anons.
Void Shadows content is some of the best content in the game, the Lex content seems to be about equivalent quality to the base game

>>714617637
>>714617550
>>714617573
is it worth a reply for the DLCs if I've played zero of them and thought the game was pretty good, but not exactly amazing?

>>714614998
Waifubros, what the FUCK is this? you told me it was going to flop FUCK now the next DLC is going to be a necron and not another girl to romance!

>>714617704
No

>>714617506
Lantern King alone elevates Kingmaker above WotR, having an actually fun and cool final antagonist is a must for any CRPG.

>>714616045
That fish is a proper young lady, you will make sweet love to her, not fuck her.

>>714617781
I think that's a pretty good point; I had to think for like 30 seconds to remember who the last boss of WotR was even though I've played it twice.

Reminder of what they took away from you.

>>714617781
No, it doesn't, yes the meme king is the best villain they've made, WotR and especially RT are still better games
>>714617895
>I had to think for like 30 seconds to remember who the last boss of WotR was
You might be retarded

>>714617781
>he didn't get the ending where you follow bug man to his bug world, kill him for real, then use holy fire to scour it down to the bedrock.

>>714617938
barbarian wife ugh bare tummy SEX

>>714618026
Linzi...

I know this has nothing to do with what anyone is talking about right now but I am so fucking sick of Fextralife, every time I try to google something for the game it's his shitty fucking unfinished wiki that comes up first. I am so fucking sick of seeing his pointless unfinished useless fucking site.

It's so good when Cassia brings everybody together in front of Argenta...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8TyIEAqps

>>714617973
nah, you just have really low standards and thought that retard was actually a good boss

>>714617161
>no shitty wanna-be strategy game
You get the shitty management game instead, which is way worse and intrusive
>game flow isn't deadstopped by going to a different world for a chapter
Sorry but Aluishinyrra is actually good, in fact it's arguably the best part of the game, focused 100% proper exploration with no shitty minigame on sight. If you want your flow ruined by going to another world then there's Cumrag that feels like like nothing more than a big side quest, the game goes to shit once you go there and it never recovers

>>714617938
>people actually liked this dumb annoying cunt
unfathomable. the companions were all trash

>>714618220
but WotR has the cards, too

lettuce not dawdle

Idira

>>714617938
She's okay. But Jaethal is best girl, and it's not even close.

>>714618180
I said nothing about the quality of the boss lmao, they're both shit, because Pathfinder combat is shit, no, you're retarded for somehow not remembering who Areelu is

Is this game finished or i need to wait 1-2 years for all dlcs?

>>714618238
Ah yes I much prefer Reddit the Gnome, Gayfag 1, Black Gayfag 2, Attempt to be Chris Avellone Elf, Reddit the Fox, and whoever else I forgot because they all suck cock.

>>714575802
WTF its literally my first character but i was dogmatic

>>714618335
>n..no they're...a..all bad so I..w..win
Tim Poole of RPGs right here

>Solomorne

>>714618147
Half the time I see that site and go to it, it brings me to a template page with the name and image of whatever item/character/event/etc I was looking up, and literally no other information. Like they used a bot to make all the relevant pages, and then never finished the job.

They must be really good at SEO because I have no idea what keeps that site going.

>>714618337
>3
You need to wait 2 years for the DLC
Then 2 years for the bug fixes
Then your entire life to have sex
And then until your deathbed to realize you will never be a woman

>>714618325
damn I'm gonna commit heresy

>>714618325
now I see why Theodora kept her around

>>714618337
No, there are more DLCs on the way. But it's fun playing anyway, it was complete from the start but they're still adding more. I'm playing it for the second time right now, with the 2 new DLCs and it's pleasant.

>>714618147
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hkv4s9/guide_to_block_fextralife_wiki_from_your_poe2/
You can do this with their website in general. I too fucking hated seeing their shit pop up all the time

>>714618380
We don't talk about the even worse game here

at least the campaign for Kingmaker wasn't a complete abomination

>>714616943
both
but wotr if you only must buy one, its the complete package

>>714618435
No, not really, the c'tan shard is good. But if you somehow can't remember Areelu then you're simply retarded sorry, and, let me repeat myself, yes, the Lantern King is the best villain they've made yet and he still hasn't been surpassed, so I hope that makes you feel better, KMbro

>>714618250
It's not the same, in Kingmaker you have time limits and if you don't solve the problems you can actually lose, eventually you explore everything and have nothing to do other than to stay on your capital clicking "skip day" like an idiot while you keep solving problems desperately hoping the story will finally move on
In WotR the crusade mode is just there to make your armies stronger, make no mistake it's still fucking annoying and I'm glad they're dropping this shit for Dark Heresy, but Kingmaker's is way worse

>>714618681
>Areelu

>>714618681
>hy·per·bo·le
>/hīˈpərbəlē/
>noun
>noun: hyperbole; plural noun: hyperboles
>exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
>"he vowed revenge with oaths and hyperboles"
but you can think I literally didn't remember the person on the cover of the game if you want

>>714618436
Have you tried the Arbites class they added to Darktide? One of the voices is trying his damnedest to be 2012 Dredd.

Just looked at the next game Dark Heresy and those companions look good. Ogryn, Man eating kroot, Rambo, gay elf and a random American sheboon.
but I am wandering if there is anything for straight normal folks? Some companion or something they havent shown yet?

I've tried to play WotR about 4 times now, start a new character, get invested in it all over again, get the siege of drezen and just run out of steam due to how shit it is

>>714618789
>and if you don't solve the problems you can actually lose
is there actually anyone above 90 IQ that managed to lose their game to the Kingdom Management?
I refuse to believe anyone is that retarded

>>714618380
You know that description applies to Kingmaker too except for the black gayfag right? and replace fox for goblin

>>714618875
I don't have Darktide

>>714618875
>One of the voices is trying his damnedest to be 2012 Dredd.
The "I'm the law" line I suppose?

>>714618961
>he hates the goblin, one of the best characters in the game
holy shit taste

>>714618905
I have tried to play WotR about 3 times now . Start a new character, get invested in it all over again, get the siege of drezen and then just continue due to how much fun it is. ;)

>>714618914
>there are imperial citizens out there that would consider this hideous

Abelard, inform those peasants that I think they are of the homosexual persuasion.

>>714618943
The point is that you have to stay glued to your kingdom management screen to solve them because if you don't you lose, it's not that it's hard, it's annoying

>>714618562
I know it, i restarted run for assassin cult and now i wanted to reset because of animals class, later idk maybe there will be more choises to ending and i will reset again. I will finish wotr and i will wait for all dlcs

>>714618914
would with those lips

>>714618996
It's fun, you can even play dress up with you robo dog just like you can your character.

>>714619027
I actually like him, but he's similar to Nenio

>>714618905
Well, it's just not for you then. Don't push yourself

>>714570375
>Arbites > Iconoclast. free from the Lex Imperialis I actually get to be the nice guy I always wanted to be and not a soulless tithe collecting machine

>>714618894
>but I am wandering if there is anything for straight normal folks?
No

>>714619076
how? You just fucking deal with them on the road and build those things that let you do everything including build from the road and end up with 3 weeks of free time every single time and then like 3-4 months at the end
You don't even have to min max anything
Even if you do the most optimal stuff possible you end with free time
HOW does anyone struggle with any of this?

>>714618943
I lost to it the first time I played the game, I didn't read the tutorials very well and mostly just ignored it so I got fucked in like chapter 5

>>714619085
Well if you finished WOTR then you have the patience. I like that game but damn it's way too long

>>714618894
Dark heresy companions are a humiliation ritual against straight white men

>>714619203
I see. Guess it will be an incel dogmatic playthrough then

>>714568079 (OP)
>ctrl+f reformed daemonette
>0 results
Let's fix this.
reformed daemonette gf when Owlcat?

>>714619161
can I romance the dog?

>>714618914

>>714618007
Who gives a fuck? He's still just an annoying and uninteresting bug man, whereas the Lantern King had panache and style. Every great CRPG has a great antagonist, and WotR utterly fails in this regard.

>>714618894
I admit, I am not super invested in the cast of companions this time. Except for the ogryn.

I played the game when Argenta could solo the game and you just spammed extra turns but I read the balance is very different now.
What's good and what is bad in the current game?
Is a tank RT good now?
Can you make an AoE nuke machine like Cassia as the RT now?

>>714619352
No, though you can pet him.

>you can fail cassia's first companion quest if you don't immediately fall to your knees and simp for her within a few jumps when you first get the quest
wtf. fuck that bitch

>>714619352
Vistenza...

>>714618238
Jubilost and Ekun'dayo were solid. Also I enjoyed Linzi.

>>714619290
do owlcat hate money?
>>714619387
yep, just like me. Guess it will be Ogryn bro and me just cleaning the sector then.

>>714619352
Vistenza Vyatt wrote this post

>>714619563
When will we get a proper heretic path?

>>714618905
Drezen is the thing that motivates me to replaying WotR more than anything else
After 2 or 3 playthroughs I grew so attached to the place that I consider it my character's property by right. I will free it from the demons, I will get rid of the Abyss's influence underneath, I will tell queen Galfrey to fuck off from MY property. Not even the retard goddess Iomedae can contest my claim to that land.

does the season pass have everything (there's only two DLCs so far, correct?)

>>714619398
>is a tank RT good now

That's how I built Abelard and he hasn't gone down yet. He's probably got the second highest kill count, right behind Kibbles.

>>714619615
It has all the dlc released thus far.

>>714616060
Being nice in a grim dark setting is kino

>>714619641
When I first played (Unfair) after about mid game I wasn't really able to 'tank' any more is why I ask. I know balance has been changed a lot, so I'm looking around online as to what has changed.

>>714619610
Never, it will remain unfinished trash permanently.

>>714619479
>Linzi
not a romance option because owlcat are fucking COWARDS

>>714619398
>Can you make an AoE nuke machine like Cassia as the RT now?
Yeah, just do pyromancy executioner. The aoe is the entire map

>>714619741
Psyker stuff got an across the board buff. Pyromancer doesn't feel like you're tickling people to death in the early game anymore.

>>714619615
Not exactly. It has the first and second DLC (Kibellah and Arbites) but there is also a new DLC that is only cosmetics I believe but that one is part of the second season pass. And it will also get all DLCs releasing from this point on

>>714619771
Larian too. I needed a Sazza romance.

>>714619398
>Can you make an AoE nuke machine like Cassia as the RT now
Yes, just go Soldier Pyro > Master Tactician
Ignite has been reworked to have higher damage, and you get Psy Rating increases earlier now
Soldier MT Psyker can literally hit higher than 10k AoE damage with Sanctic Staff nuke as well
Otherwise just spam Ignite + Run & Gun and follow it with Firestorm
Go Fortress World for Never Stop Shooting feature and due to the fact you can cast twice with Run & Gun it's a blast to play even from early Act 1
Be sure to grab Backdraft Talent once you get Firestorm since it applies to all enemies hit
Also Psychic Barrage and later Second Sight

>Is a tank RT good now
It's even better with Shields now but still unnecessary outside of Act 1 due to Alpha Strike meta

>I played the game when Argenta could solo the game and you just spammed extra turns
It's the same to be fair, except Argenta is much better as Master Tactician for Burst instead of Arch Militant which got nerfed

tldr: Make Pasqal & Cassia Grand Strategists to always act first, give Pasqal the Missionary Oath item to provide Extra Turns to everyone instantly and that enables everything

>>714619808
>>714619793
Fucking nice. I just bought the DLCs and am hopping back in. Being a commander type guy was fun but I wanna toss around spells

>>714619462
Just wait until you talk to Kibellah in Act 3 if you've been romancing her and anyone else. It's heartbreaking.

>>714619881
>Make Pasqal & Cassia Grand Strategists
I think I want to use people I didn't use last time, I might also drop down from Unfair one difficulty since I already did it and don't need to do it again.

>>714618894
techpriestess romance

>>714620065

>>714620120
Stop, my penis can only get so erect.

>>714619881
Ive just been buffing up my RT arbites and having her run around smooshing everything with her little power mace. one use of the officer heroic ability is usually enough to wipe the map and that was before I got this collar that gives me an aoe shield smash that might be bugged and is useable like 8 times in that extra turn for free

>>714618894
>kroot

>>714619935
Make sure you give Kibbles the sword she gives you after she joins, then build her even halfway competently so she can jump around blending fodder while your single target heavy hitters focus on the boss.

>>714620120
The fucking size of those tits! They are almost as big as her head

>>714620435
They are probably filled with sacred oil or some shit

>>714620224
It's not, the extra turn makes it so you can attack as many times as you have AP.

>>714620435
Tech priests always keep all the good shit for themselves.

>>714620291
according to their website its a FEMALE kroot at that. Does slaanesh hear us? Scalies gets a romance before straight white males.
>>714620065
ill take a toaster with a grill for a mouth over whatever owlcat is pushing in WH:DH.

>>714620508
I think that unlike the regular shield bash which can only be reduce to 0ap once a turn, the officer's heroic ability to give -1 ap cost to all non attack abilities is also applying to the aoe ability for some reason but the game still caps how many times you can do it anyways

>>714620435
Layperson cock doesn't seduce itself

>>714620048
Not like the difficulty actually matters, you alpha strike everything down regardless.

>>714620581
Tech priests are heretics only tolerated because they're extremely useful.

>>714620709
they shit through their skin so enjoy that I guess

>>714620581
>>714620760
I honestly dislike those motherfuckers. As soon as they are part of a story they're not the protagonists, they're insufferable pricks that constantly stay in the way, sometimes sabotaging the whole thing.
They are only tolerable in Mechanicus because its their own game

>>714620823

>>714620760
And don't you forget it, meatbag.

>>714620892
that is modern WH40k cancer. Old lore they were not xeno loving faggots

>>714620969
go suck some omnicock, boltbag

>>714620983
I think the xeno loving freaks are sent out to the fringes of imperial space more to just get rid of them than anything

>>714620508
>>714620224
it's definitely bugged, there's no valid reason you should be able to use the AoE shield bash so many times in a row for zero AP like that

>>714619462
>me when I make shit up

>>714620892
Maybe, but you have to tolerate them because the imperium literally ceases to function without them. All that advanced tech you depend on to keep your interstellar empire running? They're the only ones that have even half an idea of how it works, and how to build and maintain it.

>>714621169
k

>>714619049
>merely informing them that they're gay
>not executing them to serve as an example

>>714619372
>>714618914
Stop trying to make me attracted to 3DPD

>>714621254
lol
lmao
How retarded do you have to be to fail that quest? You are a really special guy.

>>714621036
You know they would consider that a compliment right? It's like when city people call anyone from the south a redneck. They don't think of it as an insult because they actually know the origin of the term.

>>714621276
That comes later, first they must be informed of their wrongdoing. The proper procedure must be observed.

>>714621254
Oh right I completely forgot about that, I thought you were talking about the navigator visit to Dargonus
That said, refer to >>714621421

>>714621438
they would get insulted if you told them that they don't know shit about computers, though. 99% of them just follow rituals without knowing the first fucking thing about why or how it works. You or me could make a fool of them

>>714619340
Best you can hope for is a daemonette girl that just has casual sex with you
If Owlcat is feeling based they'll pull a Syll'Esske and make her genuinely fall in love with you and be 100% loyal, but the chances of that are low

>>714621602
>99% of them just follow rituals without knowing the first fucking thing about why or how it works.
Literally Me

>>714621602
Bro, our tech is caveman tier compared to what they work with on a daily basis. Most of the memes about their incompetence are exaggeration for the purpose of comedy. Most of their rituals are necessary because machine spirits are an actual thing in their universe. They may not be what the tech priests think they are, but they factually exist.

>>714620065
Brasswhisper my love

>Vheabos is just a shitty single fight and small area
every time

>>714621963
It's a prison colony, wtf did you expect?

>>714621421
why would I want to talk to a weird fish women? immediately even? I should have a ship counsellor for that shit, she's probably on her period or something

>>714622367
fish period? Yuck!

Do I need to plan out my character from level 1? I'm getting overwhelmed don't want to brick my guy

>>714623046
Favorite the talents that look good so you know what to pick later, and remember that there are limited slots, for example your first archetype has 5 talents and 5 common talents to pick (I think, count them)

>>714623046
Yes as far as Background & Homeworld since those cannot be changed through respeccing outside of well, mods
So if you want to be a Psyker, start as one
Otherwise from level 2+ you can always respec, first three are free per character

>>714623046
nah you can reset skills later in game and you get quite a few levels. Also the last tier examplar you can get those things you missed as it gives access to both your skills trees.

>>714575802
I don't know anything about Warhammer but can you be chaos aligned in this game?

>>714623046
nah, you can reset them anytime. I do it sometimes when I want to try different types of weapons

>>714623046
If you have half a brain and can do basic addition the good talents VS the bad ones are blatantly obvious and you do not need to plan shit. The games combat is a joke and all of your companions have easy builds that make them strong as fuck so you really don't need to care at all.

>>714623201
Yes. However it is the worst and shittiest Evil path ever made in CRPG history, so yeah. Feel free to suffer through it if you really must go Heretic, though.

>cleared dark elf ships above my capitol
>loading screen is now taking literal minutes to load for some reason

Friendly reminder that the new companion is badly written trash whose entire personality and struggle can be boiled down to "muh dog", legit and straight up that is what they based him around, his stupid fucking pet. How can Owlcat be this bad at writing characters? It's mind boggling. Not a good sign for the Dark Heresy game.

>>714623638
Dogs are based though. Don't be a bugman.

>>714623638
How many things do you hate about the game, why are you here?

>>714623638
Ok just for this post I'm doing the Cyber Dog class

>>714611025
So if some war hero gets millions to believe she's blessed by the Emperor, she can start performing miraculous feats?

>>714623931
>wanted to play a dogmatic melee arbitrator with a dog
>but Solomorne fucking sucks already
>and he's shotgun focused, which are way better than melee arbitrators

>>714623638
Consider that Owlcat is Polish or Ukrainian or something like that. They tried to write a cool black guy by making him a responsible person who also cares about his dog. Quite a level headed approach. This is the peak of modernity.

Solomorne has more personality than Regill

DO MY BIDDING

>>714624157
Don't slander my half-man Regill like that

>>714624157
lol

lmao

hahahahaha

no

>>714624157
PFbros are not going to like this one

>>714624056
Im not sure how dual wielding shotguns even works. sometimes I get a second attack, sometimes I dont. sometimes I can attack THREE times. it doesnt make any sense plus theres apparently like 4 different ways to fire a shotgun for some reason

>>714624157
>le midget lawtard man
>le black lawtard man, but dog
It's true.

>>714624465
There's a shotgun that gives you an extra attack if you hit two enemies, you get it on Solomorne's recruitment quest.
>like 4 different ways to fire a shotgun for some reason
Those are arbites exclusive and are just added effects like more overpenetration, bleeding, etc but they cost 2 AP.

>>714624561
theres a feat that lets you attack with your off hand but it doesnt always work with shotguns for some reason. sometimes I just get the one attack and thats it despite having plenty of AP

>>714624062
I looked it up. Apparently they have a headquarters in Cyprus, with a secondary location in Armenia. What the fuck?

I thought Rome took care of these silly nonsense countries a long time ago. Why do they still exist?

>>714623568
use the faster loading mod

Is this like the PF games where you can't use a custom portrait later on if you pick a default one?

>>714624975
You can change your or anyone else's portrait at any time with the toybox mod.

>>714624975
You can change your appearance and portrait at any time now in your room

r8 my slop

>>714625240
breddy gud for AI. It even has the skulls.

>>714624770
cyprus is a tax haven companies headquarter in to avoid paying any taxes

>>714625291
that's supposed to be pierce brosnan by the way
no, I'm not an architect

>>714625240
should've been full-body. otherwise, not bad.

>>714625240
Why are you copying Jimmy's costume

>>714625384
>Here Lady Cassia, I insist you eat well while aboard my vessel

>>714625384
Well, it looks nothing like Pierce Brosnan, and I know what he looks like because I'm been watching James Bond movies recently. Still looks good though

>>714625435
>w4rh4mm3r style oil painting, grimdark, (Pierce Brosnan) as fanatical military lord commissar posing for a portrait, grimdark future, Warhammer, Warhammer 40k
I didn't

>>714625449
Cassia already has a fat ass despite supposedly being lanky, architecting her up wouldn't be that difficult

>>714625514
>Cassia already has a fat ass
you wish, fishfucker

Meet Kibellah, my wife, completely insane. I say, keep those knives to yourself, cut yourself up if you want but leave me alone

>>714625593
For someone who's supposed to be lanky her ass is big, cope

>>714593898
>"belief makes it true" is in effect.
no

>>714625856
I use my pyromancy to cauterize my wife's fresh wounds, I don't want her getting an infection

I am trying to use the psyker chick but these wild magic surges are AIDS

>tired of Cassia being a permanent party member, but wanting a full-caster navigator in my party
>use the 'play as anything' mod
>decide to make my navigator a psyker as well, because why not and just RPing as a psyker
>by the mid-game he has 10 psy level and a neck that gives him as many bonus attacks in the first turn as he has psy levels
>annihilates everything he comes across
and he's STILL weaker than executioner heinrix just meleeing stuff or argenta brapapapapa'ing

>>714595992
The problem is that this is a game that punishes being a jack of trades yeah she isn't best at slot in anything.
>a worse officer than cassia because navigator powers are overpowered
>skill monkey in a game where 95% of important skill checks are either tech-use or demolition
>does way less damage than any dedicated damage dealer

I still don't really understand Pasqal's act 4 quest. The Amarnat believe that all knowledge is useful and shouldn't be spurned because it could be dangerous, and discontinuing the cycle just means reevaluating what's acceptable within the AdMech?

>>714626284
I stopped listening to AdMech noises long before act 4, it's all heresy in any case.

>>714625983
where is this broken neck piece?

Also, I adore Argenta but shes ass until you can actually get a good fucking gun, which takes a minute. Need to give heinrix a try, been hard to replace kibbles.

>>714626456
That is mainly her starting bolter being a nub trap, think there was a stubber pretty early on she did pretty well with until getting a decent one

>>714625949
Only in Act 1
Act 2 means you go Overseer then get Raven + Warp Buffer Talent and now the wild magic surges affect the enemies instead
She's also potentially the strongest party member with retarded Psy Rating stacking once you get her special gloves early Act 2

>>714626456
>where is this broken neck piece?
Can't remember where I found it, but this is what it's called. Google probably knows where it's from.

>>714626687
Maybe I just didnt go through a decent path with her, but in act 2 havent found anything that works great for her. Honestly doing better with yrliet sniping with the new DLC gun she gets. Easy multiple kills a turn compared to argenta running out of AP after 1 or 2 bursts that barely kill anything because they cant get through enemy deflection.

>exploring some smugglers den
>get jumped by a small army of necrons
>nobody says a word about it
>Heinrix our inquisitor of the ordo xenos got nothing to say
>not a word from Pasqal despite witnessing some insane technology
The soul ran out after they finished developing act 1 and 2
Everything happening later is lacking that eye for detail that made the early game good

>>714626836
Ah, requires buddyship

>>714626836
It requires high rep with the Kasballicans

>>714626456
Warp Surge Brooch is from one of the factions
Argenta is even better now since early in Act 1 with Void Shadows you can get the Ripper gun from the Freight Line ship area and that carries you hard burst wise until you get heavy bolter in Act 2
Before she was basically forced into Longlas duty due to all Act 1 Burst weapons being SHIT but Ripper is godly

>>714626836
>+7 attacks on Jimmy
neat

>>714626836
>>714626914
>>714626935
Well shit. 70 PF and level 15 friendship is not something I think ill have before the end of Act 2 without specifically going for just that.

>>714627050
Kasballica Faction rep is literally a trap anyways,it takes vastly longer than the others at the start and the rewards are nowhere as good, and the hardest to get before Act 4
Just get Jae to join you during the Coronation at the end of Act 2 and it's +15k free rep with them
Anyways you don't need that talisman, just grab a Chainsaw, Malpian Shroud, Saint Keefe boots and go to town
With Spirit Drape Talisman and a psyker buffslut like Idira or Heinrix with the new Raven Overseer Pet you can get HIGH MOMENTUM even turn 1 which then means you instantly get +8 AP with Saint Keefe & the Warrior Heroic, just get a Grand Strategist Pasqal to give you a free turn at the start of battle through Missionary Oath

>>714627282
>Just get Jae to join you during the Coronation
I refuse

>>714627343
Enjoy never getting high Kasballica Rep then, it's a pain to increase compared to the rest
Explorators > Fellowship > Drusian > Kasballica anyways as far as who has the best items

>>714585345
>bringing Cassia to cumrag
oh no no no no no

>>714627616
I'm eating a can of chicken with some chicken bone broth poured in there, so it tastes more like a complete chicken. You think I care about those Kasballica criminal scum?

>>714627617
Why wouldn't you? Also, you have to take your romance option to get their good ending

Nigger cop is ok, but that's simply not enough. Maybe in another game I would really like him, but competition in this game is too strong among companions and he is another Dogmatic character at that, following Dogmatic character dlc which was Void Shadows. Should have been some Xeno already. Overseer archetype is great and sovlful as fuck with companions naming their pets, having new voice lines to order them, pets being used in skill checks etc, while not being just OP like Void Shadows did. New content like quests are always nice to have. New scenes in first act are fun, and well Judge Dredds are just cool in general. Minor thing, but one thing they changed is a fight leading to Aurora against cultists and now Arbites are joining you as reinforcements which is a cool sequence.

>>714627810
>Should have been some Xeno already
No can do, you're getting two dogmatic characters in a ROGUE TRADER game and you'll like it
Dark Heresy? The Inquisition game? Oh yes that one has the kroot, enjoy!

>8 hour in
>idira already summoned 2 demons from the warp
good thing I'm not dogmatic otherwise I'd have executed her

>>714628494
sex with Tour-chan

>>714628474
>summoning more xp
she's welcome to

>>714627810
He's alright, but that's the problem, as you note - he's just "alright". I think he would've been better if they'd gone full- subdued rage with him. Like he's just constantly seething and wanting to kill all the scum of the universe, but the law is holding him back. Instead they made him angry at himself instead, which is pretty fucking boring.

Also, I hate all the "omg ur dawg is so kewl!!! UwU" dialogue options you get for him. Man, his dog even betrays him. Fuck his dog.

>>714628494
GW faggots will approve this but say Argenta romance is going too far

>>714628636
I don't think those give xp. they even despawn if all other combat entities have been killed while they're still standing.

Idira off-loading perils onto enemies via her familiar is just so fucking stupidly good I honestly have no words. The one drawback she had mechanically just completely gone for good, leaving her free to explode heads left right and center.

I 2H'd my way through WotR, what's the smoothbrain build here?

>Not even started doing my 3 Chapter 2 planets
>Level 26

>>714628636
? Has this changed? Last time I checked, Idira's many many demons don't give exp.

>>714628167
>Oh yes that one has the kroot, enjoy!
I will tho

>>714584383
Argenta and Idira. Jae if you want her to finally stop lying to you. Pasqal if you want another scene of him being baller.

>>714628949
2h warrior/executioner
pyro psyker origin
you set yourself on fire and hit enemies with your flaming sword
later you use the executioner ult to spread damage over time to every enemy in combat and then inflame to proc major damage on all of them

>>714587749
>muh orks
I hope you people could just fuck off honestly.

>>714629054
Jae still gets ousted as lying the minute you come back from cumrag if you didn't take her

>>714629143
Let's say that the ork is trans and identifies as female, would that be enough to satiate your waifufag needs?

>>714628949
Soldier Pyro Psyker Master Tactician
Or Bladedancer Pyro Psyker Executioner

>>714629054
>Jae if you want her to finally stop lying to you
Doesn't even tell you her real name by the way

>>714629143
taufag detected

>>714629282
I hate tau so fucking much it's unreal, bros.

>>714596171
>needs an Act 4 item to come online
Yeah no.

Does Yrliet offer any good Colony Rewards in Act 4?
Otherwise this run I am killing her as I soon as I drain the Spirit Drape talisman out of her worthless hide, I'm tired of ALWAYS having to carry her along Cumrag, and then Marazhai also forces himself at the end so it's two dead slots

>>714629583
This game has a serious obsession with forcing you to use companions during story quests, Yrliet being the worst one of the bunch

>>714598039
Honestly he was a decent enough bloke in the base game but Void Shadows just turned him into an absolute fucking gigachad beyond compare and I love it. Sometimes, subverting expactations is a good thing.

>>714629553
desu he can be both as early as Act 2, buffing is even ideal because it barely costs anything with Spirit Drape and through Sacred Rituals he often even gets AP back and can just recover it all via Witch Collector boostedHIGH MOMENTUM & Saint Keefe boots

>>714629387
why

>>714598729
Can guarantee they will just nerf all the most popular shit and call it a day, without adjusting enemies or the broken initiative system.

Back in cumrag I told Pasqal to rip out his xeno torture augments now he's stuck with the Purity of the True Flesh condition
Does it do anything or ever go away? Using the right click info box doesn't tell me anything of worth other than that it's permanent

>>714628949
Make sure you have one Officer Grand Strategist in your party (GS gives guaranteed first initiative, other qualities of the class are irrelevant). Then make your MC either an arch militant to slaughter every enemy in one turn using heavy machine guns or like this guy said
>>714629082
If you go with melee pyro I recommend going for the chainsaw, there's a bunch of ways to get bonus damage that applies to every individual hit as a melee psyker so the chainsaws multihit can rack up insanely high damage

>>714595330
Who is going to introduce me then?

>>714612802
Aurora I get, cause you didn't used to be able to cheat initiative with GS originally since you were stuck at 15, but neither Yremeryss nor Uralon should be an issue for anyone who didn't fall asleep while leveling up characters and during the fight itself.

>>714629834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-9XSiNfgk0&t=652s

>>714614993
Nenio was just autistic. Yrliet is actively more hateful than the fucking DEldar.

>>714597243
I was going to post exactly this. That's like naming your son Hitler Satan.

>>714615834
Retarded ass puzzles>*COUGH COUGH COUGH* every three steps
Commorragh can suck a fat one.

>>714630476
Not even close

>>714630159
>? I hit second class just before that fight at launch. Using GS to pass the initiative to Abelard was how I kicked Aurora's shit in. I'm pretty sure I wasn't cheesing exp. I did do that one fight where you fight a gorillion dudes to save Abel, but I can't even remember if that actually awarded exp.

>>714629834
They're the mary sues of the setting. Best example of this is probably the Farsight novels, where- I can't even remember all the bullshit he does. You have scenes of single warsuits taking out entire terminator squads. Farsight kills a greater daemon (of I think tzeench) with a recording device. He beats a greater daemon of khorne in melee combat.. He destroys at least two entire imperium warships *solo*; one of them being a space marine battle barge. I think he also beats an incredibly powerful librarian effortlessly, though my memory is foggy on that part. Anyway, it's ridiculous, and it's emblematic of the whole faction. There's so much horrible shit fucking everyone else over in the setting, and all of it just rolls past the tau like water over a duck, leaving them not just unharmed but allowing them to keep endlessly expanding in spite of it.

>>714630159
Aurora is the most difficult encounter in the entire game if you take into account the level and available resources at the moment of the encounter. Nothing else in the game even comes close IMO, it's kind of a crazy difficulty spike to have so early in the game. The second most difficult encounter in the entire game is probably the demon at the start of the tutorial area.
A lot of your power in Rogue Trader are small benefits that stack on top of each other so your party becomes exponentially more powerful as the game goes on, so just the fact that these encounters are early is the main reason they're the hardest

>>714630816
Dunno why I greentexted all of that.

>purged Nomos in act 2
>come back in act 4
>he's in a servitor on the bridge
I'm scared bros

>>714629214
>>714629282
>orkfags so fucking low IQ baseless conjecture is all they got
As I said, can you just fuck off already? We heard you the first 15 billion times.

>>714630519
You're right, it should be more like
Retarded ass puzzles>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*COUGH COUGH COUGH* every three steps

>>714631135
>n-no u

>>714630816
I remember doing everything in Act 1 and hitting 16 after killing Aurora back at launch so I dunno. Point was that fight at least was genuinely challenging, both because Aurora himself is a piece of shit and because he's backed by a fucking sniper ten miles away.

>>714630862
>They're the mary sues of the setting
Why do you lie? You already know that's space marines.

Did anyone else get a weird vibe from the "body swap" section of the new DLC or was it just me?
It felt less like a freaky friday situation and more like a Out of Placers transformation fetishist fantasy, as brief as it was

>>714631387
I started a new run recently, did quite literally everything it's possible to do in act 1 and only hit 16 after the Aurora fight.

>>714631394
The Tau were very much intended to be the mary sues of the setting when they premiered all those years ago. I would say they got a lot of much needed development since then, but then I remembered GW literally retconned the Damocles crusade in such a way as to make the Tau look much, much better than they did originally.

>>714631528
With DLC you hit 16 in the fight before Aurora. The one that used to be the snipers+mine field combo that got changed with Lex.

>>714631429
Maybe it would have been if the horse got hard while seeing you but it just wanted to fucking eat you instead

>>714631528
you get a non-trivial amount of extra XP from some easily missable things like diffusing traps and dialog options

>>714631534
Yeah if we're talking 3rd edition and up until 8th you might be right but it's been nonstop Imperium and space marine wank since then

>>714631528
>>714631617
You need to literally squeeze every drop of XP in Act 1 with Void Shadows to hit 16 before Aurora, and at most you'll hit it right as you enter the last map, before the new battle with the Arbitrators that takes place right before Aurora
If you miss some skill checks for example it will cockblock you out of it by a few XP
Especially the checks that give 20-30 XP, and some battles are missable like the Freight Line Vat Guards hidden behing a Lore Imperium check, or the stuff inside Footfall Cutist basement that's not require for the safe puzzle but still gives XP etc.

>>714631656
one of the first things that happens after you leave the barn is that a passing guy starts hitting on you

>>714631734
You can miss the Vat Guards fight?

>>714631394
Space Marines get their asses pounded constantly by basically everyone. Eldar women slice them open like cans of tuna. Tau clown on them every encounter. Tyranids rip them open so easily it's a meme. The only ones they regularly school are other marines, that is chaos marines (the only ones who get clowned on more regularly than normalmarines).

>>714631528
Pretty sure letting enemies turn into demons during the lens fight & the Aurora 1.0 fight reduces exp gains. If anything, it SHOULD give you more exp, but alas.

>>714631827
Yes, if you don't make the Lore check you can't talk to the beggar there about the boxes and don't get the fight
Also the fight with the thugs that want you to hire them, it gives a lot of XP and pretty sure it's not as much if you just talk with them to avoid the fight
Also Abelard's quest valve puzzle can be missed if you don't make the Awareness check and it's like 90 XP there or so, it does matter and adds up

Anyone done a dual power mauls build?

Do any of you have the arbites male portrait?

>>714631429
When did that become a fetish?

Since we're talking about the Aurora fight, I'm gonna weigh in & say I somehow hit level 16 like immediately before that fight at launch with no dlc. It was doable, but I'm not sure what other people were missing when they said they also did everything & were stuck at 15. Having at least one grand strategist for that fight was a total gamechanger.

>>714632361
Long before you were born.

>>714630862
>They're the mary sues of the setting. Best example of this is probably the Farsight novels, where- I can't even remember all the bullshit he does.
You're thinking of Cato Sicarius

>>714632459
It could be anything. Pretty sure exposing & fighting Felek before even meeting Theobald gave the most exp at Eurak. There's a few conversations with your entourage on the bridge with skillchecks. A lot of people didn't even know about the Drukhari ship cuz they were speedreading.