Why aren't there any good Christian games?

The Neverhood

neon genesis evangelion: battle orchestra

is that thom yorke

>>714681949 (OP)
most christians are conservatives and conservatives can’t make art
the only relevant piece of christian media of the last 20 years has been five nights at freddy’s

Why aren't there any good Christian Weston Chandler games?

>>714681949 (OP)
because video games are satanic

>>714681949 (OP)
DooM was pretty good.

>>714682201
Where do we go from here?

Because christians can't make anything good

Christian lore is kind of boring. Like if you made Cain Murders Everyone, I'd play that.

>>714681949 (OP)
What do you define as a Christian game?

Because it must first be a good game, and then Christian.
Just like with heavy metal, the problem with the Christian(or any religion really) metal is that most of the time it's preaching first, music second, making it just sound bad.
It's not impossible, but good luck asking most religious people to care about the quality of the final product over the deliverance of the message; often the stuff they make is a form of preaching to the choir instead of a potential vector for converts as it could be.

>>714681949 (OP)
american christians are against art, most games were made by edgy contrarians who hated their parents. Even "Christian" games on nes-snes were made by con men who wanted to get a profits from stupid conservative parents

>>714682620
This. The most relevance the Christian faction has had in nerd culture in the past 20 years is Lightsworns, and that's mostly because they're an A-tier deck in the most popular format.

>>714682676
/thread

christians fetishize suffering. fun is inherently anti-christian.
this site has been full of mentally ill american christcucks since 2016 though so expect a terrible thread.

>>714682279
What art have you made?

christians are concerned with blessing israel and fast tracking armageddon, most of them think Jesus will return in their lifetime so they dont think about the future or making anything "good", least of all videogames.

>>714681949 (OP)
>I have a minor in African studies , or as I like to call it , niggerology

nobody remembers jesus chatline and even less people remember richard burnish's attempt at a come back

Exodus slaps, unironically

>>714683027
>christians fetishize suffering. fun is inherently anti-christian.
What a retarded opinion. You do know that there's songs in the Bible about how fun sex is right? Christianity is more than just the Passion of Christ, you're called to love people and find enjoyment in life just not at the expense of others or to the point of self destruction.

Asceticism isn't anti fun, it's pro eudamonia

>>714683492
This thread is full of newfags. So sad

>>714682801
>>714682620
Trench Crusade

>>714683253
>christians are concerned with blessing israel
That's dispensationalists who are basically just wackjob American Protestants who most Christians around the world consider heretics on par with Mormons. Wasn't really popular until the Schofield Bible was shilled in the 60's thanks to Jewish Zionist funding

There's plenty of Christians in the gaming industry.

>>714683492
I still watch both of those, the ark was a great comeback, I wish he would make more

>28 replies
>not a single mention of MDickie or The You Testament
dumbasses.

>>714683492
>attempt
He had like 60 3+ hour long shows over the course of 2 years, and they were better than the original show and he made bank on actual donation messages, lmao. His return had significantly more episodes than JCL.
https://www.youtube.com/@RichardBurnishOfficial/streams

>>714681949 (OP)
Every game made in the west is a Christian game.

>>714683678
>in the Bible
Where please?

>>714684362
No wonder they're so bad

The usual problem with Christian games, films, media, etc has always been the Christians in charge: they demand portrayals so boring and preachy that no one wants to watch them but themselves.

diablo
vampire bloodlines

we will never ever get comfykino on the level of haulin ass ever again

>>714681949 (OP)
What would a Christian game even consist of?
Let's consider a scenario of a proper devout Christian dev setting out to make a Christian game. He opens Christian mythology to find something to make into a game, what does he see?
>The messiah figure walks around, preaching generally benign things
>He gets brutally tortured and killed, despite not really doing anything wrong
>His followers set out to spread his message
>They get tortured and killed in even more creative ways, despite not doing anything bad as well
>Their students continue to spread the message
>Can you guess what happened to them? That's right.
So what kind of game can you make out of this? Some VR torture simulator? There's basically no material for anything else, but I'm not sure if such a game will be popular.

It seems that Blasphemous is the most Christian game that was ever made and will ever be made. It just gets the general feel of that fucking mythology right. Unfortunately, local trad LARPers aren't really familiar with the subject, so they can't even appreciate just how Christian it is.

>>714684012
"most chrsitians around the world" dont matter, american evengelicals control the Christian zeitgeist and control the foreign policy. all the other christians can do is say
>"a-actually thats not true..."

>>714683678
Out of context passages.

MAHEEVIES

>>714685076
she ruined the show

>>714681949 (OP)
Isn't link a catholic?

>>714684362
Wrong. Every game on the computer is atheistic, because computers themselves are atheists. They operate on cold hard logic and math, not feelings.

Untapped potential desu, we haven’t had many games that focus on Christian concepts but I think there’s room.

>>714685624

>>714681949 (OP)

Same reason guardrails cripple the output of AI

>>714683027
Shalom, Moshe

>>714685751

Michael Behe? Is that you?

newfag central this thread I tell ya

>>714685751
What's that and where is it in the Bible?

>>714685624
Sperm and other cells use these to swim.

>>714685864
That's cool, but apparently you are attempting to use it as an argument that a middle eastern arab deity from a middle eastern fictional text is actually real and it was him who made all that shit. But I don't see how it connects.

>>714684306

We have lost our way, fellow MDickie chad

>>714683391
>"THAT IS IT!..."

>"AHAQYDSUAHDUAYgdgaYDAGDVYSAFUHASYFSDYSGFHUS -hangs up"

>>714682279
Five Nights at Freddys (only the first one) is art

>>714686071

No, the opposite. You and I are on the same side.

>>714685771
Honestly a really good analogy, there’s certain themes that Christians in general seem really afraid to explore

I think a Christian walking simulator can work where you walk with Jesus. etc and see his grace transform different peoples lives.

I havent played it all the way through, and I realize Baldurs Gate 3 is FAR from Christian in many ways and in fact very secular and borderline pagan. but I appreciated how they showed the darkside of witchcraft and how it warped the nice old lady into a true evil monster, and the people who used witchcraft to get what they wanted ended up dead and miserable. I have NEVER seen anything like that in media where usually witchcraft is seen as cool and empowering.

>>714686067
How does that factor into the story where God sacrifices God to God to apologize to God for what God's creation did?

>>714686558

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1509650/I_Am_Jesus_Christ_Prologue/ ?

>>714686581
The same way that humans have to pray to God for forgiveness for the thing that God knew would make them fall for grace in the first place, you can't use logic and reason to explain Christianity because none of it actually makes sense

>>714686067
How is that supposed to make anyone to believe in some semitic deity that takes severed infant foreskins as a sacrifice, but likely used to demand whole infants at some point?

>>714686581
There is no god nor Satan. Just energy.

I blame Christian metal

>>714686581
PLEASE learn basics of Christianity before you post on a Christian thread

>>714686819
God was invented by a very intelligent human thousands of years ago.

>>714686975
Why would I do that when I was input into Christianity when I didn't even know how to not shit my diapers? Lower yourself to my level.

>>714686860
Out of Africa shit is fake and gay btw. African natives are an unusual type of humans adapted to extreme conditions, same as for example natives of tundra in Canada or Russia, and there was a tiny amount of them in Africa before they were provided with farming technology and medicine. This is an evidence that they expanded INTO sub-Saharan jungle and suffered long grueling adaption. If that area was native to humans, there would have been fuckton of them there, and most of human races would feel comfortable there. Instead, trying to live there as any other race but native without special medications is a death sentence.

In all likelihood humans first appeared around Mediterranean and not in Central Africa. The only problem with latter, is why is everyone so hellbent on insisting on it, to the point of turning it into a religious dogma presiding over the whole field of anthropology.

If I could snap my fingers and make my perfect game, I’ve always had the idea of a rpg that’s basically a mishmash of alternate history, tolkien-esque fantasy, european fairy tales, with a big christian coat of paint. Basically like a less edgy trench crusade with fantasy creatures mixed in. Besides that, making a game about one of the biggest religions in the world is risky for a variety a factors.

>>714686718
I dont love that it puts the player in the place of Jesus Christ. We get enough of that in secular culture. No human being, not even the Virgin Mary or John the Baptist would be worthy of filling Jesus sandles. I would rather be one of his disciples. A lesser one. And go get the fish then have Jesus multiply them etc. We are truly nothing and I mean nothing when compared to God, even the strongest/wisest/fastest man is nothing.

>>714687240
Your parents loved you so they had you baptized as an adopted child of God, now God loves you as well as his child (more than just as his creation). I hope one day that you will appreciate that inheritance and not squander it.

I think trying to understand some of the Christian teachings can help you, be less resentful and more understanding. But I cant force you to do that.

>>714686819
Obviously he had many children. They share some of his DNA.

You sometimes see him pop up now and again.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zN0_6zjba9c&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

>>714687617
>reddit spacing
of course
why is the "reddit atheist" myth so prevalent when the inverse is true

Christ is King of /v/ !
Forever and ever !

>>714682279
FNAF isn't christian media, its just made by a christian
>afton dies and goes to hell
Yeah but the series version of hell is nothing like what christians believe it to be

>>714681949 (OP)
>good
>christian
well theres your problem. Everything good about christianity isnt original to it, the things that are original are actively damaging to society

>>714681949 (OP)
Because christianity is based on jewish fairy tales and jews need to be exterminated

>>714687525
Have you tried using AI? It might not be there yet but in a few years you can probably get that, if not a basic prototype right now. Someone re-made minecraft with just AI. I'm excited to see all the games from otherwise talented people who cannot afford to hire artists, coders, or writers.

I'm tired of "tolkein esque fantasy" but I 'd love to see more European folklore outside of the dwarves and orcs etc.

>>714687939
Its called a paragraph break, and was around long before reddit, use the wayback machine to go to 4chan in 00s. The reason why "reddit atheist" is a thing is because reddit used to promote atheism posts and force everyone to see atheist propaganda but didnt do the same for other religions. (This is back in the 2010s) Eventually they stopped doing that and now its mostly a fine/normal website, has its problems and so does 4chan.

>>714687939
>reddit meme about reddit spacing
of course
why do eternal newfags act like they know what they're talking about

I'm not a Christian myself, but many Christians have praised Svarog's Dream for having what felt to them a profound moment of communion with their god. Good game for non-Christians too.

>>714681949 (OP)

>>714684306
I still don't know if this game is being sincere or ironic

There were like two Christian based threads made on /v/ today, both which lasted for quite a while, with one even hitting bump limit, but both basically just devolved into a shit ton of people just seething and everything single mention of Jesus and and God of Christianity in general. One seemed to mainly be Atheists, and the other was specifically a shit ton of Muslims, for whatever reason.

How come there's so much immediate hate and vitriol spewed at the slightest mention of this stuff? I mean, I kind of know it already, it's already bee told by Jesus Himself that this is how you'll basically be treated by most if you choose to follow Him, but it's still weird to just see it in straight up full display like that and with such burning hatred.

And normally, it's not even anything originally. Just the exact same pattern of thoughts and arguments that you here spat out over and over again to the point you sort of just become numb to it and able to just easily predict what they're going to say next. Doesn't help either that you can even predict the majority who talk against it are mainly miserable people with no aim in life and who instead of possibly giving religion a try and see whether it does manage to help them or not, they just attack it and attempt to feel better about themselves by pretending to somehow be smarter than others.

It's just this very specific type of pattern that seems to repeat itself over and over again. It's very weird.

>>714684306
imagine being at computers

>>714688637
I think it's sincere, pretty sure MDickie is religious. He likes to put religious stuff into his games.

>>714688683
>How come there's so much immediate hate and vitriol spewed at the slightest mention of this stuff?
Because it's astrology for men. Pure bullshit that distorts your ability to see the world as it is.

>>714688683
I'm guessing it's because the hypocrisy of American "christians" knows no bounds, your willful ignorance, pedantry and again, blatant hypocrisy is just something no one can ignore.
>muslims
Let me guess, religion is a sport for you, and whatever opinion you disagree with you simply label it as such.
>that's an atheist!
>that's a muslim!
Easy, like everything christians do.
>it's too hard to think about the world so the jewish book does all the thinking for me

>>714686975
I’m sure your picture makes some alien sort of sense if you have schizophrenia, but there’s no sane way to make the Trinity concept not retarded. Cathcucks invented that nonsense almost 400 years after Christ anyway.

>immediate seethe against religion
already? come on, give it a break and calm yourself down.

>>714688683
Your blind worship of Jews makes you insufferable and complicit in their crimes, you will hang alongside them.

>>714681949 (OP)
>instead of appearing today in an era of mass communication where God/Jesus could make a video game or Youtube channel and get everyone on board, they decided to appear over 2000 years ago in a desert in one country on Earth where the only proof of them doing it was some dudes' saying "believe us bro"
Explain it /v/

>>714686581
You're worshiping the words of a gay pedophile who slept with corpses, Ahmed.

>>714689062
i like dan simmons interpretation in hyperion on the trinity

Probably the best overtly so one was Castlevania Lord of Shadows.

Most of the time it doesn't work or works better when its in the subtext like Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines

>>714684631
It's the Song of Solomon

>>714685508
It's not out of context, the Song of Solomon is straight up a celebration of sex. Matrimony is a sacrament and so is the love that comes from sex. It's literally a gift from God

>>714686975
There are no basis of Christianity, it's why there's a million denominations

>>714689427
you are retarded beyond belief and speaking out your ass more than you shit out of it

>>714683678
>songs in the Bible about how fun sex is

>>714681949 (OP)
dragon quest always felt kinda crypto-christian to me

>>714681949 (OP)
Castlevania, FAITH

>>714685263
>american evengelicals control the Christian zeitgeist and control the foreign policy.
American evangelicals are mocked by most Christians around the world for being heretical weirdos and they do not control christianity at all.
>Control the foreign policy
Of the US, which is becoming increasingly unpopular. Don't get it twisted however, they're just the tools of Jewish Zionists and godless oligarchs they don't really "control" anything

>>714682279
>If it's not suggested to me by social media algorithms, it doesn't exist.

Niggerology

Why didn't Jesus teach his followers about science or healthcare? Or about viruses or bacteria? Why did he just do magic tricks?

>>714689264
Jews at the time were suffering from all kinds of shit and were basically completely enslaved by the Romans, but mostly it's because of how stubborn they are that they simply refused to cooperate in any way and always tried to start shit.
Prophets always came up when this kind of shit was happening but Jesus made a big shock because of the Roman involvement, where they didn't really care and only wanted them to not have a religious war so the Jesus cult festered, after some decades of Christians hiding and getting persecuted, the cult managed to survive in the city of Rome where it made it to today.

>>714688683
Unfortunately, Christianity has been THE most debated subject for the last 2000 years. Yes even between Christians. Literal WARS have been fought over what Christians have the actual truth
Christians need to be very educated and defend their faith, if you see enough religious discussions you will be able to see the patterns coming from long long away. AND Christians need to live their faith for real, not just an aesthetic or a platitude, but something that radically transforms your life and your priorities.

We have common ground and if we can find that then we can show them the way

>>714681949 (OP)
Chilton was the funnier one.

>>714689264
>If God real, then why he don't do thing the way I want it and think I know better how to do than him haha? (I am very smart btw, debate me // pro tip: you can't, cause i'm smarrt !! haha)
this is you. i don't think i need to explain it any further why no one is going to bother explaining anything to you. especially since you're clearly going at it in bad faith with no actual intention of understanding or learning anything. if you have questions that need an answer, go ask God. if you want him to prove himself to you, go ask Him. but you're not going to since you don't believe it in the first place nor are willing to a actually believe, so you won't do it since you think yourself to be above such things, and as result of that, will forever remain blind.

>>714689494
It's the Song of Solomon and yes, it celebrates sex. Christianity is not anti sex it's anti sex outside of marriage. Why people do not understand this after Christianity being , idk, a fucking 2000 year old religion just blows my mind.

Yeah they're anti sex which is why Christian families had like 8 kids on average back in the day lmao

>>714689627
Science and healthcare are real and important part of discovery of the natural world. We have many great pagan, atheist, Christian scientists working together to learn more and more about the natural world.

But how do we learn about the supernatural world? Only God can teach us that. This was Jesus mission.

>>714689649
When you delusional retards start living by what you preach, then maybe people will listen.
But when you turn a blind eye to a literal genocide and do extreme mental gymnastics to justify it, then people will find that you are full of shit

>>714681949 (OP)
F

>>714689386
Song of Songs is fucking Tanakh, which christcucks are always quick to declare it doesn’t apply anymore whenever it suits them.

>>714689630
>and were basically completely enslaved by the Romans,
Bullshit the Romans just made them pay taxes and didn't like the practice of circumcision so the Jews decided to try to ethnically cleanse Palestine a few times until Hadrian burned their temple to the ground , massacres them, and tried to scatter their religion to the wind

But unfortunately didn't finish the fucking job since he was already getting old at that point

>>714689851
Lots of /v/ uses anti-sex as a euphamism for anti-porn. To me they cant be more opposite, because sex is (or should be) about family then porn is about soltitude and lonelyness

>>714689062
Monotheism is a self-contradicting construction that is incompatible with IQ above 85. White people don't like monotheism and don't want it. However they were subjugated by arab cult, so they couldn't just stop acknowledging it, and had to perform some bullshit motions to make it somewhat less gay and retarded. Trinity is one of them. It's still pretty gay and retarded, and there's no longer any reason to bother with it, because asiatic church can no longer harm you.

>>714689627
God literally teaches Moses how to create soap out of various plants in order to properly cleanse himself along with the other Jews in Exodus of impurities and bacteria, long before anyone even had any knowledge of those types of things.

>>714689834
Relgion really is the original capeshit, thousands of years later and fags still defend plot holes with mental gymnastics

>>714690010
Nah, some provinces were absolutely slave states, they just didn't brutalize them unless they had to.

>>714690010
>being this much of a historylet

>>714686067
Really took nature a million trys to get this right

>>714689965
Cool, there's also Proverbs, Genesis, and Corinthians which all have passages which celebrate sex. Im not a Christian I just don't pretend like Christianity is some depressing death cult like edgelord fedoras who clearly never interact with religious people on a day to day basis think.

>>714690123
>immediately proves him right since he can't help to contain his seething anger for things he's not willing to understand
you're threatened about what you know is the truth but are willingly choosing to wave aside in order to feed your own ego. sad.

>>714681949 (OP)
Money. Christian groups would rather spend their money on stadium seats and sound systems for their church and mansions and private jets for their pastors or if they're Catholics solid gold statues of saints to worship and continue their idolatry.
Doesn't leave much money behind for entertainment

>>714689954
There are evil people of every religion. You cant judge all Christian by extreme evengelical American maga types, any more than you can judge all atheists by extreme stalin communists. But I agree, that Christianity has taken a very twisted turn since the rise of the "religious right" that has tied Christianity to politics in a way that is very very bad for Christianity. I will never ever support the bombs that kill the last innocent Christians (or Muslims or atheists or even witches) of Palestine

>>714681949 (OP)
>Church is powerful as in the medieval times.
>Preserves + fosters game development in monasteries, as it did with art music and education
>Game dev is protected from influences of LBGTQ+, women, and Indians for a thousand years
Sounds kino

>>714690290
Yawn, you talk a lot, but you don't say anything

>>714690335
>making up things in your own head to be mad at

>>714690150
Dude, the whole Roman empire was a slave state lmao , that doesn't mean everyone in it was a slave and previous to the destruction of the 2nd Temple Jews were not enslaved en masse

>>714690153
My dude the mass enslavement of the Jews didn't happen until after the Bar Kohkba revolt

>>714690392
>more display of self exaltation and egoism
you will continue to be miserable in life and won't get anywhere by keeping up with that. turn to God while you still have the time to do so and ask Him to help get you out from whatever issues you have in life that led you to be the way you are now.

>God won!
>Death lost!
Christ is King !

>>714690478
Yeah they weren't put under the boot because Judea was literally worthless, the jews were worthless other than their banking. They were still slaves because Rome owned them, it's not that hard a concept.

>>714690553
>You are miserable because you don't believe in the jewish scarecrow!
Lol, lmao

>>714690478
>Dude, the whole Roman empire was a slave state lmao
Semitic propaganda.
Roman "slaves" had more rights than commoners under feudalism. But somehow asiatic christfaggots with their tales about godless white devils who didn't know the light of their genital mutilation cult forgot to tell you about that. You can still learn many new things if you read Roman laws.

>>714690123
Im willing to bet you've never studied philosophy in any capacity so why do you think your opinion on metaphysics is worth a single shit
This is the problem with social media, millions of 100 IQ retards trying to get their latest dopamine hit by confidently arguing about something you have no experience or qualifications to talk about.

>>714690375
>Game dev is protected from influences of LBGTQ+, women, and Indians for a thousand years
This attitude isn't compatible with Christianity since there is no male or female in Christ Jesus, nor is there Greek or Jew or Indian in Christ Jesus. In fact India was evangelized before Northern Europe! And there is no higher creature in Christianity than the Virgin Mary.
LGBT is its own thing but yes there are gay people in monasteries too. And in the clergy too. In fact and unfortunately pederasty goes back thousands of years to bible times. Its a sensitive subject that will not go well on the internet from either side though

>same thread
>with exact same shit flingers in it again
time to remind everyone here of who they are once more, i guess.

>>714690358
That's the thing though, if christians want to get taken seriously in this modern age, then you should be the ones at the forefront against what's happening, but right now it's the opposite, you are the #1 sponsors.
And I generalize because I don't really care about your denominations, if you cannot come together for something this simple, you should be debating them instead of "atheists" or whatever.

>>714683492
I remember these guys trolling the fuck out of socially awkward edge atheist 4trooners

>>714690973

>>714691005
Is this a live boomer in the wild?

>>714690973
The sad thing is that many self-proclaimed Christians also watch porn they never let themselves be truly transformed by Gods grace. Atheists think its impossible to truly be happy and truly be chaste with the power of Gods grace.

>>714690973
This person is more sane that some faggot obsessing over a religion that revolves around corpses and torture porn.

>>714681949 (OP)
the jewish youth chatline was way better and funnier but too bad no one made an archive of it before the dude who uploaded the videos on youtube decided to remove them from his account

>>714690787
If you base your economy on slavery you're a slave state , I'm not saying that Roman slavery was like Ottomon or African slavery either. They are, no matter how the slaves are treated which was relatively well, a slave state

>>714690396
How you going carry water for Christians when have clearly never set foot inside a church?
You're just another zoomer obsessed with aesthetics. Vapid and shallow, you pretend to be pious but you have no real spirituality or morality

>>714681949 (OP)
christians don't make games

>>714690958
How much? Just know that i don't want money, licking my anus will be more than enough

>want to believe but can't get myself to do so
>just know too much and am too cynical
>still try my best to live a moral life despite being the average 4chan degenerate at times
>come to 4chan to talk about this feeling
>"just believe bro its that easy"
>try to explain that its not that easy for me and try to have a discussion about it
>get bible quotes thrown at me and told to repent
Undoubtedly I will have at least one person trying to do the same thing here.

do you guys have the link to the one where a woman tells Steven that she "hopes his dog gets beaten by a nigger"? There's so many fucking streams i can't find it again

>>714690714
>They were still slaves because Rome owned them, it's not that hard a concept.
Being a tributary or protectorate of Rome was not the same as being a slave

>>714691112
>this person who is miserable, has nothing worth live for and does absolutely nothing of worth or value for anyone and who is just about readying to blow his brains out any day now is more sane than uh... someone who has something worth living for and that constantly helps transform him into a better person with each passing day along with giving him the strength to endure whatever life may throw his way
you don't know what you're talking about, you just say thing out of spite and seethe surrounding something you have no actual knowledge of and just made your own image of it in your head based on random second hand information you got from pop media.

>>714689851
Still waiting for the other two, rabbi: >>714683678
>songs

>>714691096
A healthy male is supposed to consistently feel a sexual desire that needs relieving one way or another. Of one doesn't feel it, it's likely a result of some physiological malfunction.
That's just how homo sapiens species physiology works. Basically every religion on the planet has no issues with that, other than a certain nasty death cult, most likely some niche Middle Eastern cult of undertakes caste or shit like that, which came out of control in conditions of civilization collapse. Maybe it's you who needs to detox bro.

>>714691336
Anon, slavery was different back then than it was in modern times, why can't you understand that? When I said slaves, I didn't meant basketball americans getting sodomized by some Colonel Sanders motherfucker, you know that, use your fucking head.

>>714691283
Same, look i recognize that religion can be a good thing if used properly, if some schmuck is only good because of Jesus, i won't complain, i may not believe in it but i see why people would, at the end of the day we all put our faith in something no matter how ridiculous it may sound.

>>714690965
Regardless of its faults, its undeniable that Christian monasteries were the safeguards of Roman education and culture during the dark ages after the fall of Rome. Thats also in part due to Charlemagne's efforts.
There are probably better solutions but the monastery system was certainly better for the preservation of tradition than capitalism or corporations have been.

>>714691587
The only reason they were "safeguards" was because they were a bulwark against the germanic retards until they became civilized, nothing to do with the religion aspect of it.
Who knows how much they destroyed, mangled or have kept hidden due to religious zeal.

>>714691561
... Yeah I know. They were not slaves, not in the African sense or Roman sense. Being under someone's rule doesn't make you a "slave" unless you think anyone who lives in any state is a slave

>>714681949 (OP)
I think there are several great stories that incorporate strong, truly Christian themes to them

But generally when someone asks for a "Christian" game, or "Christian" music, or "Christian" art, they mean American Evangelical Protestant which is so restrictive and performative with its purity checks that actual artistic expression isn't just impossible, it's outright discouraged.

Catholics can make art fine. Orthodox can make art fine. Even traditional Protestants can make art fine. But Evangelicals are awful at it and always have been. Even if they show good technical skills (Thomas Kinkade), the actual message behind it is essentially just regurgitated church doctrine and not the true glory of God or his creation.

Halo is THE christian game, the reason why there are no more christian coded games is because there are less and less christians nowadays
>b-buts polls say that zoomers are more religious than any other generation
The average trad cath zoomers is just as degenerate and dumb as trannies, these negros just say they're christian because they saw some little dark age edits and heard some Joshua Graham ASMR bullshit, these fags don't go to church nor pray nor help their neighbors, nothing, they just see christianism as an quirk in the same way white girls say they're muslim.

>>714691570
>i may not believe in [christianity]
Atheist spotted.

>>714691971
>American Evangelical Protestant which is so restrictive and performative with its purity checks that actual artistic expression isn't just impossible, it's outright discouraged.
Pretty much this. Catholics are more open to making artistic products regarding their religion because to them artistic representation is a form of reverence, but to most other major American its not. The only times you see art from these groups is usually Christian rock or country music or like little murals, but nothing else.

>>714691156
>If you base your economy on slavery
This is bullshit. Slave labor is low skill and inefficient, it's only useful for a limited amount of jobs like quarries or rowing. Effectively, this type of labor is still practiced today, as a labor of prison inmates, have you seen them performing complex tasks? It should also be obvious, that only a minority of population can be kept like this.
Engineering that Romans left behind was unsurpassed by modern era Europe until mid 19th century. Slaves couldn't have built that. It was made by skilled workers and highly educated engineers. An average Roman was not a slave, he was a free man working his ass off on a job that required skill and responsibility.

You must understand that you know that age through the filter of propaganda compared to which French revolution propaganda about absolutist France or Bolshevik propaganda about imperial Russia look like a complete joke. Asiatics were smearing the original European civilization with shit for centuries, and they were in complete ideological control when the academia that created established historical canon was formed. This will take generations of actual secular historians dedicated to destroying influence of asiatics to unfuck.

>>714691570
It's not that I don't believe at all, I've got some belief, but it's that I don't have a lot of faith. Just a complicated thing for me to explain which is why I suspect I just get thrown scripture more than anything.

>>714692145
>Not an atheist

Christian spotted

>>714685575
i have a feeling she ruined everything. richard and steven seemed to get along fine until her calls got more frequent and she got involved. Right after steven died she went back to being a whore too.

>>714692374
Man it’s hilarious that these clowns never went to the moon or anything, just flew 100ft higher in their faggot plane, and you think they are brilliant. You are a fucking clown and when you die God will reign over your corpse

>>714691971
>Catholics can make art fine. Orthodox can make art fine. Even traditional Protestants can make art fine.
This, it's pretty much just American evangelicals who have made 0 contributions to art, other Christian denominations have centuries of making some of the finest works of art in history and even have guys like Tolkien who founded entire fictional genres that live on in pop culture.

The one exception I can think of is Gary Gygax the creator of DnD who was evangelical

>>714691283
Literally just ask God to help you in your disbelief.
It doesn't matter whether you see it as being too "schizophrenic" to talk out loud to some higher being you can't even get yourself to believe in the first place. But that's quite literally the first thing to do to get into it. Obviously you can't can't willpower yourself into believing if there's some kind of invisible wall that just seems to stop you from doing some, which is why you need to actually ask God in the first place to remove whatever obstacle might happen to be in your way that stops you from actually taking that leap forward.

This happens in other instances as well with people being stuck repeating certain actions and whatnot that they really don't want to engage with anymore, but it just feels like there's some kind of something, like an invisible force that keep urging or tempting them to do things they don't want, or keeping them away from things they actually want to do.

The best way to get over that is to literally just straight up put blind faith into God, even if you don't expect anything out of it. Tell him specifically how you feel about the whole thing then ask for help on it. If you don't know exactly what you would want help with, just ask Him for help in general, however He sees fit would best suit your personality.

You don't have to believe to begin with, that's something you would need help to begin with from God as I already mentioned since you clearly have something that stops you from being able to fully dive into it, but you need to at least force yourself to just state your issues out loud that you need or would want help with with an open heart, and things should evolve from there.

>>714692374
>atheist turned out to be demons who are willing to make human sacrifices for AI god
Many such cases

>>714692145
Yeah that's what i said basically

>>714686060
Biomechanical rotator design and Genesis.

>>714686975
The concept of a trinity is evil. The concept of the trinity leaves open the possibility that there can be an aspect of God apart from Christ. That leaves a place at the table of God's communion for those who deny Christ. That in turn lets Jews deceive Christians into thinking that Jews worship the same God, but that is not true since God is Christ and Christ is God. As Christ said, no man gets to God except through Him. God being Christ and Christ being God, there is no room for Jews or others in the communion of God. The true understanding of God and Christ slams the door shut on Jews and Muslims and anyone else.

>>714692612
>AI
Lmao, christians are bending over for AI

>>714692712
what the fuck are you talking about

>>714690991
You aren't wrong at all, in fact the Catechism (book of Christian teachings for Catholics) even says that the biggest cause of atheism is just that (CCC 2125).

>"Believers can have more than a little to do with the rise of atheism. To the extent that they are careless about their instruction in the faith, or present its teaching falsely, or even fail in their religious, moral, or social life, they must be said to conceal rather than to reveal the true nature of God and of religion

I do try to correct extreme maga christians when I see them (especially on xitter or facebook) and I dont put "debating atheists" as a priority except on threads like this one I think because atheists come out to want to "debate". Many atheists do seek truth and dont believe Christianity is true. And there's something refreshing about seeking truth. Many atheists are less worldly than those politicized christians, at some of whom openly admit to not actually believing in Christianity itself other than as a political aesthetic.

>>714692653
>It is possible that someone have made this
>This means that the asiatic genital mutilation deity from my fictional text made it
And this is why there will never be any actual scientific discourse on the subject of possible creation hypothesis, until you faggors are either completely extinct, or cemented in human society as designated clowns without human rights.

the fact that nobody recognizes the man in OP's image and instead are just arguing about religion is proof that everyone on this board is a post-2015 brown shitskin

>>714693095
fact that you're not reading the thread

>>714693117
Is there a link between a low iq and spamming emojis?

>>714693117
I am convinced, that this happens because that shitty Israeli propaganda strategy where they dress whores in military inform and post them everywhere on the internet in hopes to gain sympathy, has finally found its target.
Those indians just want bob and vagene.

>>714692575
Alright, I'll give it a try. I tried to do something like this months and months ago when my whole faith search began, but didn't 'feel' much. I'm autistic and genuinely feel that part of what keeps me from having a lot of faith is that I generally can't think in these big abstracts with religion since, again, I know so much about shit that it makes me go, "Well, I'd like to believe this, but I know this is true instead."
> you clearly have something that stops you from being able to fully dive into it
I think I've locked in that I'd like to believe, but can't because I feel like a degenerate and shut-in, so my self-esteem makes me think that God wouldn't like me. I know that can't be true because it's just how God works, but my self-esteem says that it must be the case.

Closed minded people just suck
Whether you're a Christian or some woke warrior, you'll constantly fuck everything up by trying to bash your beliefs into people and drastically set back human civilization

>>714693656
every single person's definition of "close minded" is just disagreeing with them

>>714691486
Not at all, in fact many religions can try to tame our conscupience and Christianity can succeed including with me. Fasting and prayer. You dont need to be a slave to porn, sex or the flesh. You can be transformed and many have by Gods grace. Rather than falling into masterbating addiction

>>714692712
>The concept of a trinity is evil.
No. Sorry but this is heretical slop and demented too. There is no Christianity outside of the Church.

>but my Bible!
Was given to you by the Church, no Church no Bible.

I love many Protestants who were born into it but slop like this is where we draw the HARD line. Its clear you are freestyling religion like its a game and like you can write down whatever you like based on vague feelings or something you saw on a website (as if God hid the truth for thousands of years til someone slopped it on a website). NOPE. NUH UH. FORGET IT.

And very very ironic that you then talk about slamming the door on Muslims as if, by denying the Trinity, you are any more Christian than they are! NOPE. Trinity is Christianity, Mormons and Jehovahs witness and whatever kind of heresy you are peddling is Abrahamic maybe, but Chrisitan....NO!!

>>714693752
>You dont need to be a slave to porn, sex or the flesh.
Do I need to be a slave to some morbid death cult that hates natural parts of human experience instead? Eat shit.

>>714693752
I do love my Protestant frens but I try to steer them towards Catholicism <(^-^)> Ave Christus Rex!

>>714692971
You know when a black person tries to understand per-capita, and they just don't get it so you laugh at them, that's what I do to people like you, you're basically a sub-saharan of intellectual understandings. There is more to life than scientific discourse, and I hope you can fathom this before it's too late. But alas not all are created equal, for every cell in our being has the capacity of will to rebel against its perfect creator, just as you rebel against the logic of spirit.

>>714692971
He's a self deluded hypocrite like most are, just pay attention to his replies. Religion is an accessory to him that he brandishes with pride, you won't get much out of him.

>>714694382
Funny asiatic subhuman who considers himself very smart because he beheld many 'jak macros where he's depicted as a big brain wojak.

>>714694628
I'm part of that 47% in USA :D have altar guild for 2nd month in a row

>>714694382
>There is more to life than scientific discourse
>the logic of spirit.
retard

>>714688439
Hehe

>>714681949 (OP)
but thom isnt a good christian. he always swears!

>>714692943
When Yahweh took the children of Israel to Himself as a peculiar people, He was expressing His purpose to keep the promises to Abraham, and at the same time the collective people of Israel, the nation, was considered His bride. Thus we read in Isaiah chapter 54:
>5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Being the Creator of Israel, Yahweh was also the Father, so from that perspective we read in Isaiah chapter 63 where, in a prophetic manner, the children of Israel are portrayed as saying:
>16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.
Of course, this portrayal was made of a time future to Isaiah’s own, and it depicts the circumstances of the children of Israel in captivity, put off from God for their sins, which is the very reason they needed to be redeemed.

So Yahweh God is the Creator, or Maker, and the Father, and the Husband and the Redeemer of Israel. Yet in the Gospel accounts, Yahshua Christ was called the Creator by Paul of Tarsus, and in the Gospels He was called Bridegroom and the Redeemer of Israel. How could this be so, if they are separate persons? How could a husband be married by proxy? How can a son have his father’s wife, something for which Paul of Tarsus had condemned a certain Corinthian? How can a son die to release his mother from the law of the father, so that essentially, the father only dies by proxy? Where is the authority for any of that in the law? Actually, it is all contrary to the law, and therefore in the case of Yahweh and Yahshua Christ, the Father and the Son must be one and the same person, or entity.

>>714694801
>47% in USA
You do understand that those are Latin American numbers, not European numbers, right?

>>714694628
How does the saying go? You can lead a horse to water... The fact remains that a black, no matter how you cut it, is still a black. Christ is for the White man, Those with the capacity of deeper thought. And no amount of Wikipedia screenshots will compensate for that lack of intuition.

>>714688683
>How come there's so much immediate hate and vitriol spewed at the slightest mention of this stuff?
A variety of cultures on the video game board that clash with each other mashing together. Gamers who don't want to talk about religion, gamers who got told games are anti-God or Satanic, 2016 /pol/ posters who are hard racists against anything brown, the same thing but with the religious angle where they hate anything other than their branch of Christianity that they barely follow, etc. etc. They all pile in these threads because they all have some shit to say about it, then they see someone from the other group and want to fling shit.

>>714694953
Friend of mine cursed in church I ended up laughing i'm sure it was a slip up. @_@;

>>714692957
I get it anon, at this point I just don't see a way back for you.
I was raised catholic and I was an skeptic since I was a child.
To be honest I just think jews are the closest thing to real life demons and I feel they need to be wiped off the earth or humanity will not survive, and christians are getting in the way of that.

>>714694308
Agree. Many Protestants were born into Protestant families or even had their whole countries/peoples evangelized by Protestants. Many deeply love God but lack access to the sacraments and God's sanctifying grace. And that is sad.
Similarly with non Christians who lack access to the gospel, but who still love God, their fellow man, truth and beauty. There are noble pagans, Muslims, Buddhists Jews etc.

I dont understand Christians who go on a website that says "trinity is evil" and then loudly say it, trying to split Christians away from God and distort the gospel for the non-Christians (who often already find the trinity strange and confusing)...why.

>>714695140
>Christ is for the White man
Ahahah you can't be serious lmao.
You're from one of places in Latin American bracket of that image, right?

>>714693452
>I feel like a degenerate and shut-in, so my self-esteem makes me think that God wouldn't like me.
Alright, let me put it like this for you. It might still seem abstract and a bit hard to wrap your head around, but God already know you long before you were even born, because you used to be an idea in His head long before everything was created. He could have chosen to, like any other idea, just discard you or somehow replace you with something else, and yet He didn't. He kept you in His mind for billions of years, however long it took to get to this point in time, just so he could actually put you into being and give you proper life since He loves you and knew this would be the better time in history to have you born in and living through than any other earlier time in History where you might have to struggle even worse than you might already be right now.

Whatever you're feeling / thinking based on your self-esteem, that you aren't "good enough" isn't true, and very much a lie put into your head by others forces that want to keep your as far away from God as possible. This is another one of those things which might sound schizophrenic in concept, but the moment you learn to have discernment, you sort of just understand that there are certain thoughts you have in your head, that you realize just simply aren't yours, and are instead planted in there to try and discourage your from going forward with things in life that are meant to actually help you out.

Just try and openly talk about these feelings to God as well, talk about how and why you feel like you're a degenerate and whatnot and then ask Him to actually show you what He truly thinks of you and you'll come to realize that despite your shame and perceived imperfections and whatnot, He still loves you. In spite of whatever you'd done to feel unworthy or ashamed for, He still loves you and is willing to help you heal through it.

>>714682279
get new material. fagtano beat you to it

>>714695140
Literal heretical anti-gospel and a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit

>>714695208
This just shows you think the wrong group is being genocided. Humans aren't demons. And just like not all atheists are extreme stalin communists not all jews are extreme IDF or settlers

>>714692183
>This is bullshit. Slave labor is low skill and inefficient
Not all slave labor was low skill, there were values teachers and architects who were slaves. Your concept of Roman slavery is completely out of whack lmao. There was a point when Diogenes was a slave. Slavery at that time was not just farm workers and basic laborers , there were architects, artisans, even physicians who were slaves. Slaves could save up money and emancipate themselves. Its not at all what you're thinking.

Rome was a slave state, either way it practiced and made a lot of money through slavery

>>714694308
The institution of the Papacy is satanic. It was founded and profited itself on lies and decrption. It hungers for earthly power and prestige and consequently brings shame on the name of Christian.

>>714695601
They need to at least go through an extreme denazification process.

>>714692183
>Engineering that Romans left behind was unsurpassed by modern era Europe until mid 19th century. Slaves couldn't have built that. It was made by skilled workers and highly educated engineers.
Skilled worked and educated engineers who were very often also slaves. Once again, you don't understand how slavery was practiced in Rome

>>714695327
>He could have chosen to, like any other idea, just discard you or somehow replace you with something else, and yet He didn't.
This is something I always 'know' but I suppose I never internalize because of my self-esteem. I *know* God loves me and made me this way and despite my faults and my nasty habits, I'm still something He can stand to love. I think what I really needed was hearing someone remind me of that. I'm not a great believer but I'm going to try doing what you said. You actually made me choke up as I read that. Thank you, anon.

>>714681949 (OP)
Because so-called Christians can't make anything unique.

>>714695601
>And just like not all atheists are extreme stalin communists
We are.

>>714695649
How? The Papacy was literally created by Jesus Christ himself. He is the cornerstone of the church, St Peter is the rock.

>>714695649
>It hungers for earthly power and prestige and consequently brings shame on the name of Christian.
The most powerful thing on the planet is getting the special privilege of riding in the Popemobile.

>>714695783
Faith the Unholy Trinity is one of the most unique horror games made in the last decade and Christians have made some of most contributions to world culture and art out of any other group

>>714685751
>>714686067
I work on a different operation and it's based on magic, sadly kikes sedated and restrained me so now i cant fully utilize my god powers.

>>714695812
Yeah I am sure Jesus would have created a golden monument to himself in Rome.

>>714695812
Cool, literally nothing about that has to do with Rome or the Papacy. Peter was never a Bishop of Rome or a Pope, nor did he ever claim primacy among the Apostles.

>>714695901
>Faith the Unholy Trinity
You mean the game allied with the buttplug tranny shooter Ultrakill?
>Christians have made some of most contributions to world culture and art out of any other group
But not videogames.

>>714695990
I accept your concession, protestantcuck.

>>714686975
The trinity was a political compromise between early Christians and two other groups; Jews, who wanted God without Christ, and Gnostics, who wanted divinity without God.

>>714693452
>>714695327
>>714695771
No problem, I'm glad to have helped at least a bit.

Also, another thing. If you're actually autistic, that could also be one of the things that sort of stops you from properly being able to immerse into belief and whatnot. I haven't looked too much into that, but I heard some similar tidbits as to what you've explained you feel like, in which case, just know God is already aware of it already and doesn't hold you in Judgement for it.
He is already more than willing and ready to find the best way to help you with whatever blockage you have there, as long as you are also willing yourself to actually improve and trust that He knows best how to go about helping you out with what you need.
So don't let that keep you away from Him or make you feel worse if you still don't see that immediate improvement or connection with Him. It sometimes takes time, depending on the person and circumstances, but God always comes through and gets the job done.

>>714696120
He didn't have to, Jesus did. 2000 years of church history did desu

>>714683678
>What a retarded opinion. You do know that there's songs in the Bible about how fun sex is right?

ok it also says don't fuck out of wedlock. so which one is it? Stewardship of the body? Everything is permissible for me—but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me—but I will not be mastered by anything? jarhead disciplinary scare tactics otherwise you will be deemed lesser because gods book says so. Until sunday at least where you can have a cry and get in your feelings then do all the bad shit again during the week til you can have your existential cry again sunday morning.

Sex is fun on a biological level that's not exactly profound to have in the bible and claim the bible talks about having fun.

Can any so-called Christians explain to me how a fish shapeshifted into a salamander, then shapeshifted into a rat, which then shapeshifted into a monkey which shapeshifted into a human?

>>714695901
>Christians have made some of most contributions to world culture and art out of any other group
Did it happen because they were Christians, or for some other reason?
It just so happened, that said contributions started simultaneously with Christian church influence diminishing. Before that, there was almost nothing to show for 1000 years of total Christian domination, not even 1% of what was created and achieved starting with Enlightenment. Do you realize how long 1000 years is? If Christianity was accountable for those achievement, it would have been much more to show. Humans would have been in space in 14th century if it was Christianity that causes achievements.

>>714696448
>Jews, who wanted God without Christ, and Gnostics, who wanted divinity without God.
So they inextricably linked Jesus to God and Divinity to God made Flesh? That's a pretty bad compromise.

>>714682559
>doom
>christian
Hell and its demons are relatively late larp anyway

Is Jesus a donkey, a lion, or a lamb?

>>714696484
>If you're actually autistic,
Oh yeah, full on autistic here, not just funny internet autism. Asperger's specifically. I only sometimes saw people talking about how autism effects their belief and just having someone say direclty, "God knows and God understands and doesn't judge you for it," just comforts me so much. I didn't expect to come out of this thread with a bit of a breakthrough, but you helped me a lot just in a few posts.

>>714696280
>You mean the game allied with the buttplug tranny shooter Ultrakill
Allied with? It's published by the same people and afaik the game only references that Blood clone they made

>Christianity iz BAD and LE EVILLLL!!!
How the fuck did he get away with this??

>>714689386
>Song of Solomon
So, not in the bible.

>Psalms 105:30 Their land brought forth frogs in abundance, in the chambers of their kings.

>>714696529
>jarhead disciplinary scare tactics otherwise you will be deemed lesser because gods book says so. Until sunday at least where you can have a cry and get in your feelings then do all the bad shit again during the week til you can have your existential cry again sunday morning.
That's not how Christianity works you retarded hick lmao. Also, yes, being a hedonist degenerate isnt the same thing as having "fun" and self destruction or sadism is degenerate.

>>714681949 (OP)
nigger, every grand strategy is one.

>>714697040
It's about MKultra.

>>714696521
No, the church in Rome seized secular power after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and then retroactively legitimized themselves by claiming a bunch of privileges that were never theirs. ultimately leading to a lot of bad theology and them being responsible for not just One but Two Great Schisms in the church.

Nearly everything the Papacy has founded it's on had been debunked as anachronistic Forgery and blatant misinterpretation of scripture that even early church of Rome itself did not hold.

>>714696620
>Did it happen because they were Christians, or for some other reason
Because they were Christians and Christians were people?
>It just so happened, that said contributions started simultaneously with Christian church influence diminishing
Hahahaha you actually believe that? Historylet detected. Before the enlightenment, before the Renaissance, the Christians and their churches were the ones preserves old works and creating architecture, researching the sciences, and art. You're operating under an enlightenment era myth that's popular history bullshit

>>714697040
I thought this was more about the crazy Amerilard evangelists rather than Christianity itself.
It's easy to punch down, basically. It's all internet atheists itt can hope to do because otherwise they'd actually have to do their homework. kek

Not that I'm above making fun of evangelicals, of course

>>714693752
Hebrews were white Aryan not Ashkenazi jew. You are literally told this in every single fucking thread but you cannot grasp the simple fact that Jesus and Hebrews were not kikes. The word Jew wasn’t invented until the 1600s by an apologetic Catholic Jewish convert. Canaanites were not part of the Israelites. They’re an entire different species. Learn to read and comprehend

>>714697315
Cool it with the anti-Jesuit rhetoric.

>>714697315
>I thought this was more about the crazy Amerilard evangelists rather than Christianity itself.
Gee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBw8hf27F5k

>>714696884
God bless you. And, again, no problem. Just happy to hear it actually helped you out. Take care now and don't give up on Him, even when things might feel hard, just keep up with it, and don't be discouraged from actually asking to be helped when you feel the need for it.

>>714697384
>white Aryan not Ashkenazi jew
Ashkenazi Jews didn't exist back then and Hebrews were semitic people like the Phoenicians and Berbers

>>>/pol/

>>714697162
>No, the church in Rome seized secular power after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and then retroactively legitimized themselves by claiming a bunch of privileges that were never theirs.
...according to said church.
Imagine if a nigger kills a white man, takes over his property, and starts living in his house. Due to some circumstances, nobody knew that and no one can hold him accountable. Some time passes, and that nigger's son tells everyone that ackshully white man just gifted all his shit to that nigger and offed himself, because he was that impressed by a nigger's wisdom and spirituality.

The real Christianization of Rome was brown population (which was a majority as of 3rd century) chimping out, killing all educated whites, and forcing white plebs to convert at knife point. Stories about voluntary conversion of godless white devils were made up much later.

>>714697384
Danaans descended from the expelled tribe of Dan, which became the Merovingian dynasty that founded the kingdom of France.

>>714681949 (OP)
Black Book

how 2 stop being a transphobe

Even if you ignore the easy answer of Doom, Faith The Unholy Trinity was great.

>>714697419
>BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOOOOOOOLY SPIRIT!!!!
Chills everytime.

>>714697673
Hate the sin, not the sinner.

>>714695601
But that's the thing anon, Stalinism being an offshoot of Marxism it still means it is jewish at its core. This is more than just religious or ideological, it's a biological imperative that drive them to act as if they were another species of human, and thus we are fated to try and eliminate each other. They are human but they don't consider themselves to be human, and they are a very distinct ethnicity so there is biology behind it.

>>714697503
>The real Christianization of Rome was brown population (which was a majority as of 3rd century) chimping out, killing all educated whites, and forcing white plebs to convert at knife point. Stories about voluntary conversion of godless white devils were made up much later
How many layers of schizophrenia are you operating on?

>>714697484
Semitic is a made up identity. There were people with negro features and Caucasian features inhabiting the stretch of land called Palestine. And these Caucasian features show through the prominence of gingers historically.

>>714697814
yeah, but im trying to stop sinning in that matter
how do i convince myself that trans women are women and that enbies are hecking valid?

>>714697503
This is your brain on /pol/.

>>714697050
See
>>714690264

Dude just Google it holy shit, sex is not banned in the Bible

>>714697248
>the Christians and their churches were the ones preserves old works
Then why did most of Antiquity documents reached Modern Era Europe from Arab translations?

>researching the sciences
Nobody even knew what "science" is before Enlightenment. The essence of Enlightenment was a realization that practical empirical knowledge and oogabooga magical religious knowledge are different things which are not related to each other. Before that, it was just a clusterfuck of imams arguing about middle eastern fantasy texts with some bits of real thing they've picked up from surviving antiquity pieces mixed into their discourse.

>You're operating under an enlightenment era myth
You're operating under myth that was written AFTER the Enlightenment lmfao. Do you know why dark ages called dark ages my friend?

>>714697673
just ignore them and don't directly engage. especially if you know you wouldn't be able to deal with them personally. let others who might be stronger in that department of having to deal with those specific types of people if you can't find yourself able to deal with it. no one mandates you to force yourself into a situation like that if you know you don't have the required attitude or suitable skills to handle it.

>>714697970
>how do i convince myself that trans women are women and that enbies are hecking valid?
Ah, you're a troll. Never mind then.

>>714698000
>just shut up and stop asking questions

>>714698098
i'm not
prove it

>>714697930
Is awareness of Roman Empire's demographic composition a schizophrenia? You don't know shit faggot.

>Im not like those crazy American evangelicals
>I make the same basic assertions about reality but with a cool anti-Jew slant

You guys are even more annoying

I think that Left Behind could make a decent game if you adapted it a bit loosely.
Make a stealth section of the part where the guy kills the Anti-Christ.

>>714697970
Just treat people with decency unless you are disrespected, autist.

>>714698102
I'd advice you not to, but you're probably too far gone already. Or mentally ill, which wouldn't be out of the question on 4chan.

>>714698258
i do respect their identity and report those who maliciously misgender, but behind it all, in my head, i still think that trans women are just men in dresses and non-binarys are not-like-the-other-girls
how do i unlearn it?

>>714698201
Dogma over understanding is the zeitgeist of so-called Christians.

>>714698410
>>714698098

>>714698049
>Then why did most of Antiquity documents reached Modern Era Europe from Arab translations?
Both the Muslim Arabs and Christian Europeans preserved ancient documents my guy, it was not "most" they both preserved different things
>Nobody even knew what "science" is before Enlightenment
The scientific method always existed as a form of trial and error in understanding physical reality, the theory of atoms goes back to Democritus ffs. Even post Enlightenment people believed in magical bullshit like Miasma Theory btw

>Unironically defending the dark ages myth in the 21st century
Most intelligent fedora

>>714698229
None of us truely know who that is though, only the Lord does. @_@; does say beware false prophets though for they are wolves in sheeps clothing

>Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
What does it mean?

>>714698038
To quote myself
>Where please?
Saying the bible or, this book of the bible doesn't not provide me with the answers to the assertion you've made, so please, where? Chapters and verses.

>>714698471
You didn't answer the question. Why were dark ages called dark ages?

>>714698459
i need help here, dont make fun of me...

>>714698150
>Is awareness of Roman Empire's demographic composition
Which became more German and Celtic as time went on which is what fractured the army? All the Arian Christians were brown Germans?

>>714698579
>I'm too lazy a googoogaga
Topkek

>>714698629
Because it's a propaganda term coined by journalists that had no understanding of the time period.
There was a huge decline in literacy and writing which left a big hole in the knowledge what exactly happened but it was nothing like a true dark age like after the fall of the bronze age.
The world was moving all the same.

>>714698629
Because of the myth of it being a time of scientific oppression and stagnation where there was a blank spot in the historical record. Which literally did not happen

Hence it's now known as the "dark ages myth"

>>714698546
It's supposed to be symbolic to some extent, but in this context, it quite literally refers to the vision of the writer of Revelations to have been in the Spiritual realm itself and seeing those entities in our world who will represent The Dragon, The Beats and The False Prophet expel out three specific demons / unclean spirits that are possessing them and driving them to do the things they will do in order to lead towards the One World Government and End of the World. The appearance of said spirits will akin to that of frogs. Slimy, unclean, disgusting to behold. It obviously also ties into the fact that quite a lot of demons seem to resemble animals to some degree, even combinations of various animals put together into one grotesque image.

>>714698496
Yeah but in the books his name is Nicolae Carpathia.
Guy in a wheelchair knifes him through the back of the skull.

>>714698646
Maybe they were brown, maybe some were black too. Franks descended from Dan according to genealogy records, so who knows what composite they were.

>>714698629
Here you go, bro. This entire blog is gold and the writer is an atheist. Cheers!
https://historyforatheists.com/2016/11/the-dark-ages-popery-periodisation-and-pejoratives/

>>714695140
>Christ is for the White man
do christmutts not know that christianity originated in the middle east?
that bible was written in the semitic brown people language?
that early christians and the authors of bible were all swarthy semitic goatherders?
how come they all share the same single braincell? has years of conditioning themselves into believing the omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent creator of the universe is obsessed with male penis skin and gives people golden hemorroids (1 samuel 4-6) and smears shit on peoples faces (malachi 2:2-4) made them desensitized to objective truth and reality?

>>714698951
So you're saying reptile-like demons can assume the forms of people to blend into society?

>>714698924
>Because of the myth of it being a time of scientific oppression and stagnation where there was a blank spot in the historical record. Which literally did not happen
It happened and it was a good thing.

>>714681949 (OP)
beaners and niggers can't code

>>714681949 (OP)
Didn't this guy die? JCL was like the funniest thing ever for my 13 year old self.

>>714698646
>Which became more German and Celtic as time went on
Who told you about that? Christfaggots?
Germanics were primitive farmers and hunter-gatherers. There wasn't that many of them, you can't sustain large population in colder climates on that.
Semitic populations south of Rome were old pastoralist and agrarian cultures inhabiting warm regions, some older than Rome itself. It is obvious to anyone who isn't a retard, that their population was orders of magnitude higher than those north of Rome, and the expansion of Romans resulted in them gradually becoming browner and browner on average.

That is, in case you didn't get the message from inhabitants of modern Italy looking more like some southerners and the main center of religion which came from Middle East being situated there. They don't look like Germans, and there is no seat of power belonging to a Germanic religion there.

I wonder why you faggots have no issues processing that modern mass media bullshitting you, but believe things which are much harder to check and were reported by entities with much greater ulterior motives unconditionally.

>>714699130
The Middle East was mostly white composite until the 1700's. Even the Bedouin where light skinned and blonde/gingers until they rewrote who was who.

>>714699146
The whore of babylon comes riding a multiheaded monster, there is a dragon with multiple heads and a giant cow

>>714699187
Profound mental retardation , inspired even

>>714699313
I strongly suggest that you kill yourself

If you died tonight, want to find out if you'll be in heaven or hell?
https://youtu.be/6lzaPqKf2zs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc

Jesus is coming back soon

>>714699387
Smart people can be retarded and this is something everyone in the modern age can understand.

>>714699370
The retort of the heathen, who hates truth.

>>714686818
What don’t you understand? I can explain most of it to you I’m sure.

>>714699304
>Who told you about that? Christfaggots?
The entire objective historical record of Rome and also Vary Vikernes in that video he talked about how the Arian Germanic Christians destroyed Rome due to an internal Christian conflict within Roman society

Damn , imagine being more of a contrarian than Varg Vikernes. You're on another level. Evola is too liberal for you huh?

>>714699553
>The entire objective historical record of Rome
That's mostly made up?

>>714699146
No, they posses people and cause them to act in certain ways the demons themselves would act like. Demons themselves don't have actual corporeal forms since they are Fallen Angels, and just like actual Angels, they are Spirits, thus, they have no physical corporeal form, but they can assume the form of certain things related to their various traits and attributes.

Depending on what type of demon you're dealing with, like, what specific sin it is mainly engaged with, and what rank it has, along with its possible traits and characteristic, it cane appear under the form or some animal hybrid like a reptile, sure. But you don't actually see in the real life walking among people since they're only visible within the Spiritual realm which you can't access unless you're dead.

>>714682676
There's really nothing else to say on the matter. I can't think of a single piece of overtly religious media that even *tried* to be entertaining beyond Veggietales and Bibleman
South Park made an entire episode about the vapid nature of Christian Rock

>>714681949 (OP)
because you need high IQ to make games and a high IQ is negatively correlated with believing in old jewish abrahamic myths from the middle east

>>714699370
He’s not wrong, many of the Berbers actually speak a Celtic language. Likely from Vandal influence around the time Western Rome fell.
https://amazighworldnews.com/celtic-amazigh-berber-connection/

>>714684306
only reason why I clicked this thread

>>714699314
>The whore of babylon comes riding a multiheaded monster
That is highly symbolic. It could literally just mean that the whore of Babylon will happen to be a central figure within politics at the time, which happens to be a woman that charms the masses all through the 7 different parts of the world that would make up the whole of the One World Government, and then use said place, its people and resources to wage war and just generally lead further towards the next parts of the Revelation.

>>714699634
Except for you oh knower of truth who apparently speaks every single ancient language from antiquity and has personally read all the primary sources with the added benefit of the spiritual knowledge bestowed by the old gods

What YouTube channel do you get your info from, be real. Or is it tik toks?

>>714691971
Catholic art is idolatry

>>714699643
If angels have no physical form, then how do you interpret
>Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
If they had no physical form, how did they mate with human women, which is a physical act?

>>714699708
Dunno about you but this AI thing is pretty neat it even created Christian music. And also bands like Stryper regrouped ^^

>>714681949 (OP)
FNAF
Earthworm Jim
Neverhood

>>714699849
Yeah yeah death to America.

>>714697673
just treat them as people even if they're weird, gross, or annoying. many people that aren't trans are weirder, grosser, and even more annoying.

>>714698841
You made the assertion, I'm asking your for the source, otherwise you cannot back up what you've said.

>>714699882

>>714699736
>abrahamic
If you think that’s a thing, you already don’t know what you’re talking about. Christianity is not a religion, religions are all based out of rituals alone, not faith nor grace.

>>714699923
Jim? Really? Honestly curious knew about freddy and neverhood but didnt get into them.

>>714699882
I just laughed out loud reading this post.
We are heading towards such dark times you couldn't even believe.

>>714699869
If you're an expert, can you provide a theory on why the only primary source for the Egyptian pyramids prior to the Napoleonic wars is Herotodus?

>>714699387
>two more days
christcuck doomcultist brown mass has been saying this and has believed in this bullshit for literal thousands of years. even early churchfathers believed that jesus' second coming would happen in their lifetime.
in fact even rabbi jewsus himself believed that the end of the world was going to happen in generation of the people he preached to (mark 13:30)
this doomsday cult way of thinking is one of the reasons our White western civilization is dying. The doomsday cultists don't feel the necessity of planting the tree for future generations thousands of years down the line. They are the eternal boomer "me" people who think that the end of the world is going to happen in their lifetime. because they are special or something. disgusting.

>>714698917
>>714699040
Wrong, faggots.

>>714698924
>there was a blank spot in the historical record
Correct. There WAS an 1k+ years blank spot in a historical record, as of Enlightenment that is. But over 18th and 19th century, it was fixed, since powerful absolutist states employing propaganda technologies don't like blank spots, and abrahamic church was happy to cooperate with them.
Basically every single "document" reporting on dark ages exists in tiny amount of handwritten copies and has completely unverifiable provenance. Any competent specialist will forge a thing like that in a month. Not to mention the content of that shit.

The peak of Christian propaganda was not some backward medieval, it was 19th century with its introduction of mass literacy. This is when the fantasy fiction about women popes and child crusades that you believe in was written. Blank spot still exists. If anything, it is so devoid of any meaningful progress, one can suspect that the current chronology is wrong, and it's been way less than 1000 years.

So what do you like more?
>Christards caused such a brain damage, it resulted in 1000+ years with less achievement than any given 100 years of secularism
>Christards tampered with chronology to convince everyone that they were there much monger than they really did

>>714699869
the spiritual and physical world weren't yet separated at that point so whatever the fallen angels would take the appearance of, the humans could fuck them since they also were body and spirit put together and able to interact with them as such.

>>714699865
>Catholic art is idolatry
This is what I mean
The worship of Church doctrine is the actual veneration being done in Evangelical Christianity. Everything is evil except the Church itself, so any expression of life besides the Church is inherently sinful.

>>714700269
When did the spiritual and physical world separate? Was that a part of the flood, or some other event you can point out in scripture?

>>714700238
>This is when the fantasy fiction about women popes and child crusades that you believe in was written
Anon, both of those events occurred after the Dark Ages had ended.

>>714684362
That's a strange way to spell jewish.

>>714699553
>Varg Vikernes
He's a provocateur on government payroll lmao. Only retards take whatever shit he talks seriously.

>The entire objective historical record
Do you believe in hall of cost bro?

>>714699995
What kind of cope is this. The three abrahamic religions are kikestianity, kikeslam and judaism itself, all three stem from a mentally ill jew called abraham who believed he was the chosen one and recieved a message from god.

>>714700439
yes, it was after the flood

>>714681949 (OP)
Didn't he die from cancer? Also my favorite part was when the technologically inept priest wanted to expose the Vatican by putting everything he knew unto a Neocities page "for the whole world to read".

>>714700550
Jew means descendant of Judah, who would have been one of Abraham's great-grandsons. Your observation is chronologically incoherent.

But there is

>>714700673
Can you elaborate on that?

>>714700734
I mean biologically a jew. You can play the semantics game if you want but it's not a gotcha

>>714700443
Real history of modern era starts with establishment of widespread printing in Europe, which is 16th century. Can't bullshit when paper reporting on events is produced everywhere.
By the way if you go to wikipedia you will find "official" separation between medieval and modern era somerhere around there, but no real non-joke reasons that warrant it will be given, because this subject is off limits.

>>714699852
From infographics posted randomly on /pol/, ackshually.

>>714700171
(>^-^<)/ I am just happy hearing the music that brings me closer to Jesus, who or what sings it doesn't bother me.

>>714689627
>Why didn't Jesus teach his followers about science or healthcare? Or about viruses or bacteria? Why did he just do magic tricks?
I read this as:
>Why didn't Jesus teach his followers atheism?
How do you know viruses are real? That science isn't built on lies?. Better to teach your people to believe in themselves and to cast out the jews out from the temples.

>>714700834
Do you believe a fish shapeshifted into a salamander, and this salamander shapeshifted into a rat, which shapeshifted into a monkey which then shapeshifted into a man? That biology?

>>714700550
Since we are at this point.
Judaism is just an offshoot of canaanite myths, they just wanted to emulate the Egyptians and try monotheism, they stole a bunch of myths, including the flood myth. Yahweh is a copy of Baal and that's why it's explicitly mentioned that worship of Baal is forbidden.

>>714698546
French are frog-eaters, and here the unclean frogs come from out of the mouth.

Much argument, rational or emotional, can be made concerning which isms or which philosophies these three unclean frogs represent. However all of the philosophies promoted and forced into our Christian society by our enemies can be summarized in and have been cloaked by the supposed ideals of classical Liberalism and the French Revolution which are found in the slogan, Liberté, égalité, fraternité, which is still the national motto of France today. Through these ideals have gone out all of the Jewish ideas into the world, the ideas of liberty and freedom and equality and brotherhood which are contrary to the covenant relationship which Christians have with Yahweh their God.

Any concept of liberty apart from God is only a deception, and it is a false humanist concept. Christians can only have true "liberty" when they subject themselves to Yahweh their God and keep His commandments. Then He gives them liberty. Otherwise, they ultimately fall victim to tyranny. Tyranny is the inevitable result of sin and depravity.

Christians are expected to have brotherhood only with those of their own kin who are also Christians, and they are to have no community or fellowship whatsoever with non-Christians (i.e. 2 John 9-11). The same law that informs Christians to love their neighbor, which is found in Leviticus chapter 19, also defines a neighbor as one of the children of one’s own people. The Jewish ideals of liberty, equality and fraternity are ideals which have led to the decline of Christian society into the cesspool of human licentiousness. All of the cries for diversity, racial equality, sexual liberation, and every other philosophy detrimental to sound Christian society which has been made these past 200 years have been based upon these Jewish and humanist ideals of liberty, fraternity and equality, and Jews have been their chief agitators and promoters.

>>714700856
So in your opinion not only did the dark ages happen but they also span almost the entirety of human history? And your reasoning for believing that is because you can't actually categorize massive swathes of human history into neat little categories? Even though the Dark Ages itself, that you believe in, is a categorization of a massive swathe of history?

>>714700932
Have you ever used a fucking microscope? Spit inside a petri dish and look asshole

>>714701050
The Messiah is prophesied as a donkey, so the subtle propaganda of the image being "mocking" is disinformation, just like your post.

>>714701259
>just look at the micro jews inside the jew scope and stop questioning me you chud!

>>714700986
kek, do you believe in the ice wall too? jewish scholars believed the the earth was flat so it must be so, yes?

>>714701259
Excellent, if its so easy then we should be able to isolate a virus and prove they exist.
Oh wait, NO VIRUS HAS EVER BEEN ISOLATED EVER NOT ONCE.
When I was being taught about viruses I remember a debate saying that they shouldn't be classified as life because they conceptually don't make sense.
I bet you believe in nuclear weapons, pearl harbor, moon landings ,911, everything the government says to justify its lies.

>>714701280
Prove it faggot, the similarities between Yahweh and Baal are obvious and the flood myth is older than anything in the bible since it's found on The Epic of Gilgamesh. That alone makes the bible a plagiarized story, faggot.

Christian values don't really align with what's fun to humans and their twisted devil-minds

>>714700828
The flood killed literally everything outside of Noah and his family along with the animals he was instructed to have on it, including the Fallen Angels. And while they wouldn't have been killed in the physical sense we are familiar with, they were basically separated from the direct physical world into their own separate spiritual realm, that is basically still on Earth, but in which only they themselves can interact with and be seen by each other along with God and the Angels. They were "killed" in the sense of being wiped from actually roaming the Earth itself in conjunction with both spirit and physicality. It was also does so as to never have to deal with any of the mongrel off-springs created from Fallen Angels copulating with Humans.

Whole event was basically a 'reset' button to the World where whatever used to be on it before got wiped clean and Noah was tasked with making sure the World repopulates and heads out in a new and better direction than what was previously existent on it.

>>714701132
>So in your opinion not only did the dark ages happen but they also span almost the entirety of human history?
Majority of human history as it's officially acknowledged is an equivalent of reconstructing a whole dinosaur by 1 tiny bone. We barely know the complete about Antiquity, the evidence to that is people's perception of Rome mostly consisting of retarded biased mythology.
I understand that you were taught history which is as precise and clear as if people writing it had time machines, however, there's like 500 years of such history at best, and none of them actually have time machines. They do have employers who write their paycheck, and those employers don't pay for "we don't know". A proper historian is physically incapable of saying "I don't know", even though it's the most fundamental component of any scientific process.

>And your reasoning for believing that is because you can't actually categorize massive swathes of human history into neat little categories?
No, only because no reliable sources on that period exist. The only reason we can believe that Antiquity actually happened, is because its legacy is way too complex to fabricate. Legacy of medieval though, there's nothing complex about it, and there isn't much of it numerically. There are good reason to suspect, that it was much shorter than claimed, but again, this subject is off limits to even touch.

>>714701687
But the verse preceding the flood explicitly says Nephilim survived the Flood and later on there are Nephilim in Canann

>>714701435
Freemason/Jesuit converso
>>714701486
Incoherent babble from a heathen.

The christian god as he was creating the world

>>714681949 (OP)
Keep truckin in the sky Steven F

>>714701803
??? The Nephilim didn't survive the flood wtf

>>714701805
>you are a meany ugly poopy head
Is this really the best you can do?

>>714681949 (OP)
Cyberpunk 2077

>>714701793
It's not off limits. You're talking about it right now. The only issue is that you sound retarded. No one denies the limitations of the historical record or the inherent bias of most forms of record keeping.

>There are good reason to suspect, that it was much shorter than claimed
Such as?

>>714701687
>they were basically separated from the direct physical world into their own separate spiritual realm, that is basically still on Earth,
I believe they call those water spirits, which exist in the marine kingdom under the oceans and seas. Not all of them lost their bodies though.

>>714701924
They "survived" as giant maneating zombies within the land of Canaan, along with undead vampires which were the Amelekites.

>>714701924
Genesis 6-4
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—AND ALSO AFTERWARDS"

Numbers 13:33
We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.

>>714701486
Seriously can a christian actually earnestly answer this for me for once or is it literally impossible? If the flood myth was provably copied, then how do you reconcile this with your faith?

>>714702246
The flood is a mentioned point in history for most learned people on the earth since it would be orally told down. The flood being repeated by every societies history keeper or historical record just makes it more proven as a fact of reality.

Because no one wants to go on dreary middle-eastern sand adventures. When you really think about it, the Abrahamic religions incredibly unappealing.
It's no wonder that the greek and norse pantheons have loads of games about them.

>>714702527
Yes but if it's found on something older than when anything in the bible was written, how do you reconcile this with what you believe in?

>>714702190
>>714702190
"Nephilim" became a term to just loosely refer to really tall, large or imposing looking human warriors. Aside from that it could somehow also imply some of the Nephilim might have "survived" in the same sense as the Fallen Angels did, meaning they no longer have a corporeal form but were now trapped as Spirits in the Spirit realm, thought that might be unlikely since they were meant to just be chained in Hell until the end of time.

>>714702527
>>714702648
And I mean this as it's a literal fucking copy, in The Epic of Gilgamesh it's a prophet with an ark and a worldwide flood.

>>714701836
>THIS IS WHAT JEWS, CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>>714700892
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>714699958
I mean I already gave you them you're just too lazy

>>714702737
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about? Stop reading Gnostic fanfiction. The Nephilim aren't important.

>>714681949 (OP)
Christians were the original enemies of video games

>>714701836
>>714702841
YAHWEH is the cow btw

>>714702648
When was the Bible written according to you?

>>714699931
i do treat them nicely, but i can't convince myself their identities are anything but a delusion

>>714702905
You can't prove what you said. Got it.

>>714700238
>>Christards caused such a brain damage, it resulted in 1000+ years with less achievement than any given 100 years of secularism
Yeah but what you just said is wrong on every single level and retarded you goddamn fedora humping moron. It's called the dark ages myth BY SECULAR HISTORIANS , moron. It never happened

>>714702907
>the Bible isn't important, but wearing a mask and getting the booster shot is.

>>714702907
you're the one making them important by trying to argue about their survival

>>714702005
>Such as?
Wasn't it repeated multiple times over this reply chain?
The main issue with medieval is that it spanned 1000+ years with basically nothing to show for it. The main practical achievement in Europe over that time period are steel, compass and gunpowder. Official historiography admits that all were imported. Cultural legacy of that entire 1000+ year span is smaller and more primitive than that of any century of modern era. As of that time span ending, Europeans behave like arabs who slaughter each other in MILLIONS over differences in same religion (30 year war). Then, just 300 years passes, poof, Europeans are in space.
There are only two explanations to that
>Christian domination completely lobotomized the whole continent
>The period of retardation and decivilization was not as long as it's claimed

>>714702005
>It's not off limits. You're talking about it right now.
As a nobody on anonymous forum that exists for shitposting. Try looking for this subject in actual historical academia lol.
I think you'll find only two things, "phantom time hypothesis" by some German, which he never really developed, and alt chronology by Fomenko which is rather clowned up and based on repackaging works by 19th century freemason Morozov.
Other than that there was known attempt at chronology revision/validation by a French historian who translated Egyptian language, but Catholics just outright assassinated him.

And there's nothing more I know of. You'd think that validation of such things would be an interesting theme of research, but it's dead, and historians are obliged to treat it like gospel, with anyone who doubts it being seen as a believer in flat Earth.

>>714702960
HOLY BASED! THIS IS WHAT I ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN!!

>>714702975
A little over 3 thousand years old, which is just fucking laughable if you think about it honestly.

RIP sweet prince, I wish the scientists could put him back together like they did that one time

>>714703056
>the Bible
I'm the only one whose quoted scripture in this conversation. Stop larping.

>>714703027
Genesis 2:24: This verse speaks to the deep unity created within marriage.
Proverbs 5:18-19: These verses celebrate marital love and intimacy.
Song of Solomon: This entire book is an exuberant celebration of sexual love between a husband and wife.
1 Corinthians 7:3-5: These verses emphasize mutual responsibility and satisfaction within marriage.

Procreation: Genesis 1:28 links sexual union to the creation and continuation of human life.
A Symbol of Christ and the Church: Ephesians 5:31-32 compares marital union to the relationship between Christ and the Church.

Took me 100 years of research, very high effort and something you can't do clearly

>>714703163
Okay, so you got that wrong. Now why should I question anything I believe in then?

>>714703090
I'm not arguing anything, I'm just stating the facts. The other guy is the one spouting random fan fiction about a spirit realm.

>>714703043
>BY SECULAR HISTORIANS
Where are those secular historians? Can I see them?
Last time I checked, every single so-called "secular historian" uses Middle Eastern fantasy text about magical jews parting sea or rising from the dead as one of the primary sources on Antiquity, and somehow that shit remains ingrained in the picture of history that those "secular historians" construct and maintain. This doesn't look secular. Actual secular historians don't write religious documents into history, if anything, they specifically make sure that history is not influenced by religious documents.

It seems to me, that humanity has yet to see its first secular historian.

>>714703292
>so you got that wrong
>why? because I have secret esoteric knowledge you don't know so you lose I win

>>714700238
>Basically every single "document" reporting on dark ages exists in tiny amount of handwritten copies and has completely unverifiable provenance
This is just next level fedora schizophrenia. There's no verifiable primary sources from the dark ages? Lmao

>>714700723
It was Geocities actually

>>714682676
Sabaton's "The Last Stand" is a Catholic song, and it is a song first, Catholic second, by a band without any Catholics.
The Lord of the Rings is a Catholic story fundamentally, but not explicitly, written by a Catholic
In other words, you have a point but its not the whole answer, Tolkien did not even realize how much of his faith he put in the story at first, and it only became obvious upon his revisions. Sabaton intended only to portray the pontifical guard in the same way they portrayed anyone else, but by its subject matter it was rendered wholly Catholic.

Art done BY Christians IS Christian art, and art done by non-christians who grew up Christian CAN be christian art, art can also be explicitly Christian and be so firstly, done by either Christian or not, and still be beautiful (see: endless religions icons, paintings, architecture, etc), but PROTESTANTS have an issue that is singularly theirs, where they fear subtlety (because they are in rebellion against it) and so must be EXPLICIT in how they present something.

Think of that protslop "the chosen" and how it handled Christ's disappearance from the temple.
To a Catholic, like say, Mel Gibson, It would be proper and sufficient to depict his disappearance as the mob simply not being able to see him. To the vulgar sensibilities of the protestant, they found it fit to instead depict God himself concerned with fear and fleeing on foot in response to the attempt to stone him. They are simply not capable of art depicting the faith because they dont have it.

>he believes there's a magic sky nigger who sends you to be horrifically tortured for eternity if you break one of his arbitrary rules

lol

lmao, even

lmfao, perhaps

roflcopter, maybe

>>714702648
>Find something older, chronologically closer to the source that broadly supports what my source says
>This is somehow bad and invalidates my other source.

Why? If it's an event that happened why wouldn't other cultures have written about it?

>>714701924
Cain is a bastard child of Eve and the serpent. The serpent represents the race of the nephilim, The tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Whites are the Tree of LIfe.
The sin of the early Adamites was race-mixing with nephilim Genesis 6.
The flood was localized and not a global flood. There's nothing to insist the world was flooded other than the mistranslated word which can simply mean land.
God restarted the White Adamic world with Noah, but some nephilim mixed race tribes remained notably the kenites and rephaim.

>>714681949 (OP)
Gasdelbania.

>>714690973
>strawman blaming
get in the box

>>714703383
>recording real history is bad
>recording fake history is good
The Jews must love you. I bet you think they're "semitic" and not khazarian too.

>>714703383
>Last time I checked, every single so-called "secular historian" uses Middle Eastern fantasy text about magical jews parting sea or rising from the dead as one of the primary sources on Antiquity
No they don't holy shit not even most religious scholars use the Bible in that way and you fundementally do not understand how the historical method works since no primary sources document written by anyone is taken at face value for being totally accurate let alone the bible.

Last tike you checked? So never? Have you even graduated university , and if so tell me which so I can condemn them for passing such a massive idiot

>>714703450
What I don't get is why Satan is basically in league with the almighty to make it a undesirable place.

>>714685590
Up until alttp when nintendo had to pivot after NOA's faggot ass "bro you cant have bibles in this game the baptists will boycott"
Whats funny is it must have happened late, because they still have the church, the trinity, Link has a sign of the cross animation, and it was late enough that some assets of ocarina still had that original concept going for it and werent removed until the GOTY edition in 1999

>>714703494
So the Epic of Gilgamesh is part of the bible and thus part of Christian myth? Since you are using it as a source to prove something in the bible then you have to check it thoroughly, not just that one aspect. Use your fucking brain. If Noah is a prophet and he is found in the Epic of Gilgamesh talking to a female god, HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THIS WITH THE BIBLE?

>>714703546
I'm gonna give you a pass since you're the first one to acknowledge pre-Adamites itt.

>>714703714
I'm sorry it's not female.

>>714703240
>Genesis 2:24: This verse speaks to the deep unity created within marriage.
Not sex, but even if you read it that way, there's nothing here about "how fun sex is."
>Proverbs 5:18-19: These verses celebrate marital love and intimacy.
Yes, but even if you read it that way, there's nothing here about "how fun sex is."
>Song of Solomon: This entire book is an exuberant celebration of sexual love between a husband and wife.
Not in the bible.
>1 Corinthians 7:3-5: These verses emphasize mutual responsibility and satisfaction within marriage.
Not sex, but even if you read it that way, there's nothing here about "how fun sex is.
>Ephesians 5:31-32 compares marital union to the relationship between Christ and the Church.
Not sex, but even if you read it that way, there's nothing here about "how fun sex is.
>>You do know that there's songs in the Bible about how fun sex is right?
So far you haven't posted a single thing that is from the bible that is a song about how fun sex is. Yes, the bible acknowledges sex. The bible is also pro-procreation, but it doesn't glorify sex for "fun." Please, continue.

>>714703546
>eve had sex with satan
either you're a moonie, gnostic or jewish. all three believe in that, but regardless, you're a heretical schizophrenic. fuck off.

>>714683492
Can't do much about that, anon. Steven died almost a whole decade ago.

>>714703420
>There's no verifiable primary sources from the dark ages?
What do you think can verify that the document is real and wasn't fabricated 2 months ago?

>>714703806
>but it doesn't glorify sex for "fun."
I should reiterate, it doesn't glorify sex for fun outside the desire for procreation of more subjects.

>>714701836
PRAISE YAHWEH, THE JEW GOD SHALL SAVE US

>>714703810
It's implied in the text that Adam was not the father of Cain or Abel, only Seth.

>>714703985
>can't even escape his cuck fantasies while reading the bible
bro......

>>714689062
Repeat after me:
I am not more intelligent than Thomas Aquinas

>jewish mythology

>>714701836
So God had a big cock? Is this supposed to be bad?

>>714704180
NO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT

>>714703714
Someone answer me please. I can't take this anymore

>>714704224
Bald ass nigga lmao

AI art has revolutionised the Christian art scene already. There is an incredible wealth of Christian art produced in the modern day thanks to it. Every Christian can now make art. What everyone else fears Christians will embrace. Christians look into the future.
Once the AI models become good enough to make whole games Christian gaming will have another golden age boom too.

>>714704224
>muh gods dik
had to be a christnigger

>>714704364
Based!
>>714704409
It's okay if you got a shrimpie bro. It says in the Bible not to judge :^)

>>714704224
oh no no the cope

>Off Tpoic Religious Bait thread still up

>>714704495
Seethe Edomite.

>>714703650
>I bet you think they're "semitic" and not khazarian too
The obsession with "khazarian" shit is the most hilarious things ever.
Fist and foremost, any person with common sense will discard that drivel, because jews do not look Turkic or anywhere close to Turkic.
But that's not important, the important part is some faggots being obsessed with it in first place. It's very important to them for some reason to prove that modern jews are not semitic. At the same time, they are hostile to modern jews.
Why would it matter then? Being semitic is not something good. Nobody likes middle eastern faggots.
It turns out, that it's important to them, because it should prove that modern jews are unrelated to jews from abrahamic scripture, and it's important to them because they want their cognitive dissonance from being a christard and and anti-semite simultaneously to go away. Also this way they want to prove that white people were jews from abrahamic scripture.
The absolute stare of khazar enthusiasts lmao.

By the way khazar jew theory itself was made up by Russia in 19th century to split jewish diaspora in pale of settlement in two for easier management. Back then anthropology didn't exist and nobody would call that shit retarded because jews aren't turkic by any measure. This theory became irrelevant when Russia was destroyed. I wonder what would have 19th century officials who came up with this say, if they learn that their creation will be picked up 150+ years later by some amerilards to optimize their experience as anti-semitic spiritual semites.

How come there's a sudden influx of christcucks/christcuck larpers on 4chan?

>>714704484
>small dick u mad bro <:^)
brightest abrahamist

>>714704638
>jews do not look Turkic or anywhere close to Turkic.
Jews look anywhere from full blown Arabs to nordic white but most are very distinct, anything else is cope. The khazarian thing comes from Ukrainian kikes being the ones that invaded Palestine first and foremost.

>>714704495
you gone do anythin bout it or yo just gone cry like a lile bitch?