How the FUCK is this game so highly regarded by everybody?
I was led to believe that it was some groundbreaking new fun RPG but after 2 hours it's bullshit "quirky humor" has pissed me off more than anything

Who the fuck rates this game highly?

For me, it's the fact that it runs at fucking THIRTY FPS
Why the fuck would you decide to create a BULLET HELL GAME and then make it run at THIRTY FPS???

>>714702364 (OP)
>by everybody
It's highly regarded by furfags and by the people who were underage when they played it.

>>714702621
Maybe that's where I went wrong
When I was reading praise over this game, it was mostly from Le Reddit and the Muh Heckin Doggo crowd
This was probably the first game they ever saw break the fourth wall, so they latched onto it as being good

Oh well, at least it was only $2.50

>>714702364 (OP)
>How the FUCK is this game so highly regarded by everybody?
it isn't. get off twitter.

Thanks for telling us you dont like popular thing, very important.

>>714702364 (OP)
It is rare for people not to enjoy the game's humor. I'm sorry that you can't enjoy it, you're missing out. It is a groundbreaking game, but everything that is groundbreaking about it is contingent upon the player enjoying the humor and connecting with the characters. Without that, it doesn't have much to offer you besides some nice music and basic bullet-hell gameplay.

>>714702364 (OP)
Because you're SUPPOSED to like it, CHUD

>>714702364 (OP)
I genuinely believe at least a third of the game's praise is because people are too afraid of saying anything negative about it because they'll be attacked for having the Wrong Opinion by zoomers who have made Toby Fox their whole personality

>>714702364 (OP)
Why are people still making these threads?
It's been 10 years

>>714702364 (OP)
I only started liking it when I got to the genocide route

>>714704115
I'm a huge fan of this game. It's not perfect or anything, the gameplay and puzzles are more simple than they need to be, some of the jokes haven't stood the test of time, parts of the greater plot (mostly all the chara stuff) are thematically not a great fit with everything else the game has going on. It's just a really unusually good game to a lot of people and so it gets a lot of praise.

>>714704254
Believe it or not, some people don't play games when they're released, or even for years afterwards
Then, when the games go on sale, they buy them and try them out because they're so highly praised

Sorry I'm not ahead of the curve like you

>>714703797
>everything that is groundbreaking about it is contingent upon the player enjoying the humor and connecting with the characters. Without that, it doesn't have much to offer you besides some nice music and basic bullet-hell gameplay.
Can confirm, I hated its humour and most of the characters. There were only a handful of moments I liked, namely Undyne in genocide route, Asgore destroying mercy and maybe Muffet.

>>714705046
>Muffet
can't stand her.

OP here, thanks for the discussion
I'll try to come back and give it another shot when I'm high or in a happier mood - maybe that will make the dialogue more tolerable and less annoying

>>714704813
you whine like a woman

>>714702364 (OP)
Simple and clean that's easily the best entry point for normies into indie games which makes it easy to reccomand.

>>714705384
The game does start getting serious and cuts out all the tumblerina jokes once you lock into the genocide route. It makes it a lot more appealing and then the quirky shit gets better too because you start piecing together that it's all a facade.

mother fans are starving

also who cares lots of stupid shit is popular

>>714702364 (OP)
>Who the fuck rates this game highly?
furfags
furfags and women

>>714702364 (OP)
I’m not gonna lie, the humour never did much for me either. To me, Undertale’s strength is in how evrrything pays off in the late-game.
The themes all tie together so neatly and the conclusions to each route is cathartic, they should be included in a “How to Make Good Video Game Endings 101” book.

It's very funny going back to 2014-15 threads for a nostalgia hit, then remembering the performative hateboner the Federates States of /v/iggeria has about Undertale these days. Gotta fit in.

>>714706529
>/v/ is one person
I hated this shit on release, and I hated it now

>>714702364 (OP)
Some games just develop a cult following and people can't stop jerking off over them.

>>714702364 (OP)
asgore vs frisk brought me to tears

>>714703635
You're saying that like this and Deltarune aren't some of the most recognizable Indie games ever right now

>>714707492
>Outer Wilds
That's another one that's on my backlog that I'm looking to play this year
Is it hit-or-miss too?
Should I go to Metaphor ReFantazio instead?

>>714704813
And you're still behind now, since deltarune is already a better game anyway. Plus it has possibly the most generous demo a game has ever been given so you might as well give that a shot since "free" is even cheaper than "on sale".

>>714702501
because it's not an actually difficult bullet hell that warrants 60 fps. yes, it's 30fps because toby is a retarded coder, but the game never asks for 60fps bullet hell veteran skills from you. a retard can beat true pacifist

>>714707783
>recognizable
>good
Those two words are not the same

Not every game is for every person, it's okay that you don't like it.

>>714707879
And have you considered theres a reason as to WHY it's recognizable?

>>714702364 (OP)
he became tumblr's patron god after andrew hussie abandoned them with homestuck

>>714702364 (OP)
It's cute and funny.
It has really catchy music.
It's an RPG that does something most RPGs don't.
It's an RPG with actual gameplay.

>>714702364 (OP)
Zoomers were blown away by the quirky art and humor and all the meta crap.
>OMG DID THE GAME JUST TEASE ME FOR RELOADING??? IM LOOSING MY MIND LMAOOO
I sort of understand the appeal but did not care for it. And no I am not going to play it two more times "until it gets good", fuck that and fuck you.

>>714707981
A game can only be good if I like it. Simple as.

>>714702364 (OP)
You had to be there.

I don't have anything against these games but I know for a fact if they released in ~2006 or so they would be niche hidden gems no one really talks about that much, like the games that inspired it

Everything about their success relates to releasing at the PERFECT moment to capitalize on masses of zoomers who were growing up with smartphones and YouTube ecelebs and were looking for a quirky ironic thing to hype, meme, and get obsessed with, like how AC New Horizons only got so huge due to releasing during the pandemic

The fact Deltarune isn't nearly as successful and popular despite being a Switch 2 launch title confirms my theory

>>714708020
Again, for those of you who are hard of hearing
"Recognizable" does not mean "good"
The Backstreet Boys music is recognizable, but it is not good

What is good is not always popular, and what is popular is not always good

>>714702364 (OP)
I'm afraid you are a soulless husk

>>714708443
Fine you win

>>714708460
>if you don't like my game you are a bad person
>if you don't like my game you are a contrarian
Is that you Toby

>>714708443
What's wrong with Backstreet Boys music despite the fact that you do not enjoy pop music? What is objectively wrong with it outside of your personal preferences

>>714708460
>I'm afraid you are a soulless husk
Well yeah, no shit sherlock
But other games have moved me, most recently Expedition 33, and this just seems like "Haha look how quirky I am, aren't I quirky! That means I'm good!"

Maybe it gets good later, I don't know, I'm only about 2 hours in, but so far those skeletons just annoy the fuck out of me

>>714706529
>see some weird furfag game
>ignore it
>slowly see it getting traction
>eventually give in and play it in 2020
>it's shit

>>714708679
Honestly just finish the game at the very least, even if you don't end up liking it by the end

>>714708678
>What's wrong with Backstreet Boys music
Simple chord progression with little variation between songs
Inane lyrics that are meant to appeal to teen girls
Synthesized background music instead of actual musicians on instruments
Heavy post-production audio manipulation (auto-tune)

Shall I go on?

>>714707784
Not hit or miss at all, absolutely fantastic game, the only people I've heard bitching about this game are brainlets that get stuck on the puzzles.
I couldn't recommend it enough.

>>714709025
Yo anon, you're now obligated to drop your music taste

>>714702889
How were you not tipped off by the "quality" of the discussion and fanbase around this dude's games? Some people need to work on their tumblr radar.

>>714709025
Is all synthesized music with post processing objectively bad? And why is that so?

>>714707784
The writing is a bit iffy, and for the life of me I cannot understand why people claim to have cried when they reached the ending, but the puzzles+exploration are really cool.

>>714709025
What a shitpost.

>>714707784
Compared to fucking Refaggio, is that even a question? Outer Wilds base game is great. It's marred by the literal reddit threads, but they aren't overly invasive. The DLC is peak because it has zero writing.

>>714709423
It paves the road to hell. 2012-2025 should have more than btfo anyone who ever well aktually'd the slippery slope fallacy. Look at what happened to games from 2013-2022 because of that slippery fucking slope. Lazy soulless music inspires the next generation and now we've hit some kind of depressed doldrums for music where the next generation isn't doing anything interesting or noteworthy. It's so bad that AI music in its infancy is legitimately a viable competitor because the human output is so deracinated by a solid decade of tolerating low effort and talent pop.

>>714702364 (OP)
I feel you anon I got tricked too because a bunch of gay zoomers said it was good. Its unironically the sort of concept for a game I had when I was a teenager, earthbound, quirky dialogue. But now im old, and this shit fucking sucks actually
>>714707784
Outer wilds is kino. Its art. It evokes emotion. Its a good puzzle game. You need a soul to play it. It controls well and is technically impressive to pilot your ship in 6 degrees of freedom with something resembling newtonian physics. Its fun.

>>714704254
A very stagnant 10 years.

>>714707981
I don't think you know what's okay and what's not desu.

>>714710108
Vidya music is doing great.
>Automata (though tbf I like it the least out of the entire Drakengard series)
>Expedition 33
>Witcher 3
>Frostpunk
>Mechanicus
>Ixion
>nu-Doom
>Ace Combat 7
>Ultrakill

>>714702364 (OP)
MKultra

>>714708398
"There" being tumblr during your entire pubescent development.

>>714702364 (OP)
As someone who was caught on Undertale's hype when it initially launched, every replay has soured my opinion more and more and I think the crux of it is simply that the initial first playthrough is hard-carried by its novelty, particularly its character-writing and dialogue. From an objective standpoint judging it as a game, it is very barebones, but if its novelty hits it isn't as obvious since you're just along for the ride and every single bit of dialogue thrown at you will be fresh. If you actively try to engage with the core mechanics like the Genocide route practically forces you to, you immediately realize that its battle system is a matter of ACT/ATTACK, dodge easy bullet patterns for a set period of time, maybe use your ITEM for the next turn, repeat. It doesn't take advantage of marrying its bullet-hell and RPG-menuing to make basic enemy encounters anything more than footnotes, leaving very little for player expression. Overworld exploration is just as barebones, being especially linear even as a barebones RPG with Cube-goes-into-Square-Hole design 99% of the time. If you aren't bedazzled by Undertale's low-brow humor and character-writing on a first run and have played much better games up to that point, the novelty will simply not hit as hard as most who are enthralled by it.

Keep in mind that a good majority of UT/DR fans likely don't play or replay games, they often settle with a first playthrough and leave it at that. Then watch everything else online. It's a very beginner-trap sorta game.

It was the light in the sea of post irony bullshit of the 2010s that was heavily gaining popularity like Dat boi and those shitty smear frame reaction pics , where sincerity was seen as "cringe" and videos shitting on other people's hobbies were at an all time high (leafy , h3h3)
It exploited the irony poisoned landscape of it's time to give us some of the most heartfelt stories ever seen from an indie game and became one of the most popular indie titles of all time
Long story short it became immensely popular because it came out at the right place at the right time , if it was released in 2016 I doubt it would have the same amount of impact as it did back then

>>714708460
Undertale has no soul. The euphoria around it is the result of hyperstimulation and general deviancy.

I'm ngl threads like these lowkey make me feel embarrassed to like the games I like :(

>>714710818
Good!

>>714710818

>>714710524
OP here

I think that's the real answer to why this isn't resonating with me
The humor is missing for whatever reason, and the gameplay/puzzles so far have been basic as fuck
If I was playing this 10 years ago as my first indie title? It may have been interesting and even innovative

But today? No thanks

>>714708679
You sound gay.

>>714710524
>From an objective standpoint judging it as a game, it is very barebones
It has actual gameplay, unlike the majority of RPGs.
>you immediately realize that its battle system is a matter of ACT/ATTACK, dodge easy bullet patterns for a set period of time, maybe use your ITEM for the next turn, repeat. It doesn't take advantage of marrying its bullet-hell and RPG-menuing to make basic enemy encounters anything more than footnotes, leaving very little for player expression
You just described pretty much every video game.
>Overworld exploration is just as barebones, being especially linear even as a barebones RPG with Cube-goes-into-Square-Hole design 99% of the time
Yeah, like every RPG. Except the difference between Undertale and other RPGs is exploring actually rewards you with funny dialogue.
>If you aren't bedazzled by Undertale's low-brow humor and character-writing
It's the exact opposite of low brow. There's a plethora of slopeheads who try Undertale and quit halfway through because they "don't get it."
>have played much better games
>Keep in mind that a good majority of UT/DR fans likely don't play or replay games, they often settle with a first playthrough and leave it at that. Then watch everything else online. It's a very beginner-trap sorta game.
Name these superior games, anon. We're all interested.

>>714702364 (OP)
It's fun

>>714702364 (OP)
its*
thread hidden

alright kittens archive the deltarune threads and post the bait one report to discord for further instructions

>>714710818
>being ashamed that anons on /v/ don't share the same taste you do
Grow a pair. Like what you want to like.

>>714711223
>Name these superior games, anon. We're all interested.
i like radiant silvergun its my favorite bullet-hell/rpg hybrid game :)

>>714711452
You're talking to the staff anon. You really think they wouldn't nuke the thread immediately? toby's game is literally being censored here because a trans communist lost an argument.

>>714702364 (OP)
It's great, it's fun, it's memorable, it's clever. What else do you want?

>>714711554
Added to my wishlist

>>714708417
>The fact Deltarune isn't nearly as successful and popular despite being a Switch 2 launch title confirms my theory
By what standards?

>>714711823
Undertale standards

>>714702364 (OP)
>quirky humor
I'm playing it right now and I don't know why people keep saying this. Honestly I kind of wish it was because I haven't found it TOO funny at the moment despite my initial expectations (besides Queen, who is consistently hysterical every time she speaks).

>>714712059
>Queen
Who? I don't remember her at all.

>>714711554
I like both Radiant Silvergun and Undertale, though my personal favorite shmup is Blue Revolver

>>714711736
you can just emulate the saturn version too, but the steam port version is nice. I recommend doing the story-mode for a first playthrough if you aren't familiar with SHMUPS since subsequent deaths will add extra lives and the levels of each of your guns carry over into repeat attempts, it also plays into its meta-narrative. The game also has a unique scoring-multiplier system where shooting 3x enemies of the same color will add a bigger and bigger multiplier, but the secret combo of red-blue-yellow will net you a huge initial multiplier and killing any yellows onwards will keep adding onto it.

>>714708417
Undertale wouldn't have been made back in 2006. Look at OFF for indication of what to expect an indie rpg to be like back then. And yeah it probably wouldn't have sold that well but you're talking about a time when indie games were barely taking off as it was. The idea of buying a game to download was new as fuck in 2006.

At best Undertale would have been on the level of Cave Story in terms of popularity.

>>714712184
The antagonist of Chapter 2?

>>714702364 (OP)
Should it get a remake?

>>714712370
Strictly speaking anon would be talking about Undertale not Deltarune. (Really anyone playing Undertale at this point should just play the Deltarune demo as well, it's way better).

>>714702364 (OP)
Homestuck

>>714712583
Oh oops, that's my bad then for not looking closer at the OP. I just assumed he was referring to both of Toby's games- I also agree that DR is superior in pretty much every way.

>>714712059
Man, you went through all of Chapter 1 without laughing? You're so fucking cool, dude.

>>714712583
The "NOOO I'm gonna wait for the entire thing to come out!" fags are doing this so fucking wrong.
Letting the events and implications of a chapter sink in, making your own theories, looking at memes that will be outdated by the next chapter's release and the thrill of the next chapter looming on the horizon, that's all seriously fun. Binging the entire thing in one go will never, ever compare.

>>714712951
Uh, what? I never said that, what's with the random accusation?

>>714704254
What should we talk about if not indies?
Some e-celeb? Maybe another AAA flop?
Come on anon you're sounding silly.

>>714708417
>quirky ironic
I don't understand why Undertale has this reputation of having cheap meme humor. If you play the game it's not like that all.

>>714712951
NTA but humour is subjective. I went through the entirety of Undertale without cracking a grin once, but was laughing my ass off to Disco Elysium and to the Sho rape scene.

>>714710441
Jesus Christ anon there are some good songs there but what the fuck Is with that garbage list?

>>714713665
Post yours.

>>714713242
>>quirky humor
>I haven't found it TOO funny
How was that a random accusation?

>>714713351
Don't reproduce.

>>714704254
The janny only allows bait threads to live.

>>714713993
It wasn't bait, it was an honest question
After 2 hours in the game I cannot understand why it is rated so highly, and was hoping anons would tell me what I was doing wrong

>>714704254
Mindbroke by successful indie game.

>>714712583
It's not better than Undertale.
>>714713048
Chapter releases are terrible and Toby has nothing but himself to blame for Deltarune low popularity compared to Undertale.

>>714714165
Gameplay wise DR blew UT in chapter 1.
>low popularity
Lol, lmao.

>>714713868
I said it wasn't TOO funny, that doesn't mean I had a stone-face the whole time and never cracked a smile once or found something silly. And
>You're so fucking cool, dude.
Implies you thought I was trying to brag about not finding it as funny as I would expected it to be for some reason, I'm not sure what about my post gave that off?

>>714710818
Cards on the table, I despise games like this despite their qualities because I see them as an enabler of fanservice-driven design and fetishes seeping into series that I used to or would otherwise enjoy. It's an ideological issue for me.

>>714712583
>play deltarune
>purple bitch is the main character, has the most dialogue in the game, and everyone loves her (everyone that doesnt is shown in a bad light)
>all my niggas in UT are cucked out of the story or has very little lines
yeah nope

Why is the janny chimping out again?

>>714714765
>blatant furfaggotry
See? I told you so, OP.

>>714714583
Literally nothing is happening, schizo.

>>714714765
If 3 years ago you told me that the vast majority of kriselle fanart would come from women I would have laughed at your face.

>>714714583
probably reminds him of how he ever got laid in his life

>>714713993
that and child pornography

>>714702364 (OP)
No idea, i also thought the game was highly overrated.
Its gameplay is fairly mediocre and the story wasn't good either its just ok. the music is great.
Its a 7/10 game but because it was made by one guy probably it got high praise.

>will hunt down delta threads
>will allow CP to roam for hours
>makes an entire thread to feel better about himself
>communism in america dead
lel

>>714714956
You were a fucking retard then. Snowgrave is literally the exact kind of stuff women like.

>>714714956
>Wtf, women like smut
yes

>>714702364 (OP)
you had to be there

People love quirky humor, Marvel movies are the most popular media on the planet. If you want something mature why don't you read a book?

>>714713993
its obvious that they're only letting dogshit threads like this one and all the Toriel cuckposting ones live because they get filled up utter schizos and /vg/ level avatarfags who muck up any attempt at non-retarded discussion. Any decent thread is liable for autosaging because we have a resident janny with vendetta.
God I hate jannys

>>714714067
If after 2 hours, you haven't laughed or enjoyed a character interaction or battle, the game might just not be for you.
The game lives and dies from your connection to the world, and if there's none, it'll just fall flat.
Even so, if you feel just a bit of curiosity, you could finish it. It's only like 6-10 hours, depending on how much you explore and do.

>>714702364 (OP)
its for kids and transexuals anon, be glad you dont like it

>>714712583
Deltarune is arguably worse lmfao
At least in Undertale I get to play as the main character and not some little SCP possessing one of the main characters while he himself plays second fiddle to the purple one

>>714702364 (OP)
>Who the fuck rates this game highly?
Me, I and myself.

>>714702364 (OP)
Can’t you tell from the hideous character designs alone that it’s propped up entirely by gay furries?

>>714702364 (OP)
Somebody post Toby predicting the future again.

>>714716020
Thanks
Good games normally grab me within an hour or so, and since this was basically universally praised, I expected the same but it didn't happen.

I'll just put it on the shelf and keep it on my "revisit" list
Maybe if I'm in a different mindset things will be different

>>714702501
Game Maker defaults to 30 fps and is kind of a wonky engine that becomes unreliable if the framerate is unstable, while also being so poorly optimized that games can't run at consistent 60fps on lower end hardware.

>>714702364 (OP)
Sorry OP, I had the same experience with trannycore games on the Switch 1. Undertale and Celeste are hot fucking garbage.

>>714705046
Undertale is for people who aren't borderline sociopaths with no soul.

Mostly. The genocide route ensures there's something for everyone.

>>714714359
>(everyone that doesnt is shown in a bad light)
That's literally two characters. Carol and Catti.

Plenty of people reckon Carol is a mislead in how she's presented and Catti isn't shown in a bad light at all (if anything there's an impression that she might be on to something).
>>714716158
>At least in Undertale I get to play as the main character and not some little SCP possessing one of the main characters
That's literally what you play as in Undertale as well.

>>714713317
>If you play the game
Making many assumptions outta a bait thread here anon.

>everybody
It is a woke game. Not even trying to inject my own beliefs, it is objectively woke. The messaging is inherently leftist, there's more gay relationships than straight ones, and in both games you play as a non binary.
The reason it doesn't receive nearly as much attention from your favourite grifters like other games such as Death Stranding 2 or Mindseye or whatever the fuck that game was called, is because there is still the myth that just because a game is indie, it is automatically good. There is a reason nobody mentions Celeste for being woke despite being the flagship tranny game. At least ULTRAKILL is a genuinely great game held down by a horrific fanbase.

>>714716442
>Celeste
Oh shit, that one's on my backlog list too
I thought it was mostly just precise platforming - is it full of bullshit RPG characters as well?

>>714716492
Im assuming you meant Deltarune there. You don't play as the main character. If you did the story would be focused on you and you would be driving it. It isn't. It's focused on Susie and sometimes Kris. I don't like that, I don't like how girlbossy Susie is, and I think it is inferior to Undertale as a result.

>>714716552

Robert is a genius in two areas: Composition and Pacing

>>714702364 (OP)
Don't look at me friend. I never said it was good.

>>714716538
>its leftist thats why we need expedition girl power 33 threads up at times

>>714714308
>Compared to Undertale.
Read.

>>714716552
Celeste's messaging is subliminal because there's little to no story from what I've played. But the main character IS a tranny if that's enough to turn you off.

>>714716552
NTA, but Celeste is only gay if you let it be gay. It's a precision platformer first and foremost, with hundreds of hours if you do everything.
There is the stupidly bland story of self-discovery, but you can just open the menu and skip all cutscenes. It's a very good game mechanically.
Get it cheap if you like those types of games

>>714716741
Never played Expedition 33 so I can't give an opinion on that. And it is technically an indie game

>>714716492
>That's literally what you play as in Undertale as well.
The SOUL is just Frisk's in Undertale. There's no third entity.

>>714716538
Can you please stop saying "woke" it sounds genuinely retarded like some boomer on facebook.

Even using "tranny" instead of "woke" sounds less retarded

Reminder normalniggers are in these threads taking screencaps for their shitty YouTube videos. It's morally right to post lolis to ward them off.

>>714714308
Nobody plays Toby's games for the gameplay. They play it for the story and so far not one single character in Deltarune has even half of the presence that Sans had in Undertale, no matter how much he'll desperately try to change that with another 30 minutes dedicated to Susie's character development, or another 30 cockteases about W.D Gaster, a character from Undertale

>>714716782
>>714716810
Ok good, thanks anons
With Undertale it felt like the only thing it had was characters and bad puzzles/combat
If Celeste gives me solid platforming with annoying characters, I can overlook that and just focus on the gameplay

I did just play Hollow Knight though, so maybe I'll put off Celeste for a while

>>714716538
>and in both games you play as a non-binary.
Are these dudes non-binary or ambiguous because people have been saying one or the other

>>714716274
Ah yeah that thing he said where people were "going to hate it because it's too popular." Everybody loves gay furries and nobody could ever dislike that shit so they're only pretending to hate the gay furries.

the music and kino elevate the game from mediocre to pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g6V67JzAHY&t=90s

>>714716882
I don't like the word but there is no other word. Gay is as close as you can get but 'woke' distinctly means something.
>>714717012
The protagonist of Undertale is ambiguous, but the protagonist of Deltarune is explicitly referred to with they/them pronouns.

>>714702364 (OP)
Rape victims

>>714716989
>check youtube
>no videos

I thought Undertale was great when I was like 13 when it came out but when you're an adult it just feels like if Adventure Time was a video game

>>714717205
KYS.
https://youtube.com/shorts/jKWUoetomIE?si=fRKBYF6fXuaZldcn

>>714717115
>I don't like the word but there is no other word. Gay is as close as you can get but 'woke' distinctly means something.
Everyone treats me like a schizo (rightfully so) because I say tranny instead of woke. Like
>Uber? Door dash? I'm not downloading those tranny apps on my phone

They have no idea what I'm talking about and assume I'm complaining specifically about transgender stuff but I'm talking about the whole thing the whole package the entire globohomo epstein island 1984 SOVLless dystopia they created

>>714716861
Frisk has nothing to do with Deltarune.

>>714717005
Hollow Knight is pretty much the best example you can get of an indie game which is good without having to break the fourth wall or have quirky reddit humor to let the player 'relate' to it, instead being good on its own merit. Ultrakill too but there's some weird shit like buttplug vibration

>>714716621
>That's literally what you play as in Undertale as well.
>Im assuming you meant Deltarune there.
>That's literally what you play as in Deltarune as well.
That would still mean I was saying Undertale given the "as well" dummy.
>>714716861
>There's no third entity.
So... again, just like Deltarune.

>>714717482
Yes. That's right. Deltarune is the game where the SOUL is separated from the protagonist, Deltarune isn't.

>>714716538
>there is still the myth that just because a game is indie, it is automatically good
Nobody here thinks that. Plenty of indie games get shit on. Some of them famously so, like YIIK and Yooka-Laylee.
>There is a reason nobody mentions Celeste for being woke
Literally everyone calls Celeste a tranny game. It's the only thing I know about it.

>>714717593
Oh I misread your post then. You play as Frisk in Undertale. Frisk isn't their own character outside of your choices. Kris is a very distinctly different character in Deltarune. The two can't be equated.

>>714717642
When I say people I mean normies. /v/ will shit on anything because it isn't a hivemind. But normies are a hivemind and right-wing normies still think indies are hidden gems and therefore ignore blatantly left-wing messaging in indie games which tends to be more brazen than their AAA counterparts.

>>714717676
Why can't I make Frisk drink soda? Why does he suddenly get really scared by the tentacle in the bath? What was he talking to onisan about?

>>714717296
I'd consneed, but this is literally 1 (one (uno (eins))) short of 1 (jeden (oдин (yksi))) post. Not even a full video, and other videos from the channel don't seem to have anything.

>>714717676
>Frisk isn't their own character outside of your choices.
They are. That was kind of the whole point of revealing that their own name at the end. You assume you're naming them at the start and self-inserting. But, much like Deltarune, it's revealed they are their own character.

>>714717637
*Undertale isn't.
Undertale the SOUL is the protagonist's soul. Kris's shit doesn't exist there.

>>714716538
>there is still the myth that just because a game is indie, it is automatically good
This holy shit. I am so sick of the propaganda that indie games are inherently good just because they're not AAA and that we should give them a break and cut them some slack. I'm sorry but the current indie zeitgeist has been going on for well over a decade and they're still doing the exact same non-creative unoriginal shit, ripping off of each other and pretending to be deep because their games are so meta and subversive :D

If you still buy into the "indie vs. AAA" paradigm you're retarded. A game is either a good game or a bad game. If you try to add a qualifier like "indie" to it, then you're just making excuses.

>>714702621
I'm not either and I liked it, faggot.

meira balls

>>714707879
>popular
>good
neither are these.

>>714717814
>>714717829
Frisk having their own quirks doesn't mean you don't play as them. Frisk will still go on a genocide if you want him to, and he will still save everyone if you want him to as well. Kris will have an incel rage shitfit if you put a ring on a deer. Again, they can't be equated.

>>714717814
Undertale fans really don't play other games. I can't believe Luigi is being possessed in Luigi's Mansion because he is scared of ghosts and you FORCE him to suck the ghosts.

>>714702364 (OP)
It's a cult of people with no standards, mostly from tumblr, that have not played many video games or watched any media with actual good story in their lives. The music is good tho

>>714717819
It still means we got fags stalking us. We must drive them off before the cancer grows.

>>714716861
>>714717482
>omitted this line right underneath that
AIIEEEEEE

>>714718115

>>714718105
Post media with a good story

>>714702364 (OP)
Because it wasnt some soulless faggot slop and actually had fun writing. I fucking lost my shit when I read the dog marriage sign for the second time. Bless Toby's autism.

Are we just ignoring where Flowey directly told you to leave Frisk alone

>>714718193
Ulysses

>>714717482
clam goner and sans btfos this tho

>>714718193
I mean even in terms of video games, Metal Gear Solid 2 completely buries Undertale and does the fourth wall breaking better too.

>>714718183
Ok, that's enough to prove to me that I'll never touch this dev's games ever again

>>714718115
>>714718183
where do i play this

>>714718179
Again, the SOUL in Undertale is just Frisk's soul. Your picture literally says Deltarune has different rules.

>>714718030
>Frisk will still go on a genocide if you want him to
Because that's then interpreted as Chara (who's implied to be one you're really playing as given that's the character you name) taking control.

I was going to read the alarm clock dialogue, since there seems to be lots of juicy bits hidden there.
Is Winter the only 'season' available?
Seems kinda weird they'd start there.
The whole concept seems kinda weird.

>>714702364 (OP)
gay shit for retards aka /v/

>>714718339
Fag
>>714718347
Gamejolt

>>714718231
... where he uses Chara's name and is clearly talking to Chara?

>>714718339
thats a fangame though

>i-it was all tumblr and furries! nobody here actually liked this game!
Christ. Do you underage faggots realize how easy it is to check the archives for the game's reception here?

>>714718443
Isnt there two deltarune yellows?

ARE THOSE JOKES? IT'S NOT TAKING ITSELF TOO SERIOUSLY AND IS BEING LIGHT HEARTED? AHHHHH SAVE ME DRAGON AGE I'M GOING INSAAAANE

>>714718336
Alright, added to my backlog
More

>>714702364 (OP)
If you knew nothing about it going in you would've liked it. The entire game was based around surprising you. If you take away the surprises, it doesn't work.

>>714718460
>thats a fangame though
Oh ok, thanks
I wish anons would make it more clear - we aren't all terminally online /v/tards
Well, most of us are, but still

>>714718397
>Chara
Stopped reading there. Chara only takes control when you do shit you never press. You moving the battle box is you, thats Frisk. Chara double tapping Sans is all Chara. Chara slicing the shit out of Flowey is their own action. The whole point of Genocide is that it isn't le evil Chara demon killing everybody, you are because you're controlling Frisk. That's why if you do Genocide twice in a row, Chara will say that you are 'wracked with a perverted sentimentality' and tells you to pick a different route.

>>714718501
The jokes don't land though.

>>714718470
you think the newfags know how to do that?

>>714718452
Chara is the default player name
if you put in your name he talks to you

>>714718484
Yes, but only one has a playable demo

>>714718501
You say jokes and its just some annoying faggot with some unique 'quirk' like Spamton talking like [[This]] or Tenna being a CGI model.

I feel like the only person in the world who doesn't hate Undertale with a firey passion or treat it like God's gift to humanity. It's a small little 7-7.5/10 game in my opinion

>>714718536
>If you knew nothing about it going in you would've liked it.
OP here

I knew nothing about the game except that there was a skeleton face (Sans) and the picture of the dog
I also knew that it was Overwhelmingly Positive and people generally liked it in various communities
I did not know the combat mechanics, negotiating/mercy with the fights, any of the puzzles, or anything like that

Nothing it did has surprised me yet

>>714718638
He is still talking to the first fallen child, no matter what name you use.

>>714718584
>Stopped reading there.
Then continue reading dipshit:
>(who's implied to be one you're really playing as given that's the character you name)

>>714718552
you really think tobias would refer to a human protag as male and have him hug a fluffy monster girl?

>>714718714
Again its the fourth wall breaking and quirky tumblr humor. Remove either of these things and it is a middling JRPG for teenagers about loving thy neighbour or some shit

>>714718593
They did for me and millions of others

>>714718470
First thread I could find on b4k, less than a month after release. There was anti-furfag pushback even back then.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/312369595

>>714718470
2015 was post-Gamergate i.e. the biggest influx of newfags and tourists the board has ever seen, which means that /v/ liking something at that point didn't mean shit when you had hundreds of anons defending Zoe Quinn just weeks earlier

And yes the cracks started showing in 2013 before the demo released, but the board's reception to the demo was a lot milder anyway

>>714718193
if we're talking purely story here then The Walking Dead Season 1 from Telltale

>>714702364 (OP)
>Who the fuck rates this game highly?
Unironically, autistic trannies.

>>714718815
It contains no fourth wall breaks and I can't recall a single joke in the game I would consider "tumblr", whatever the fuck that means.
My prognosis: Terminal faggotry, seek a rope.

>>714718769
That's why we've got Mondealy!
Don't bother. It doesn't scratch the same itch. Nothing will.

>>714718470
>Here
You are implying that there isn't a shadow segment of this place which is compromised of furfags who only reveal their furfaggotry when a furfag game comes out. Christ, THIS is the place that made fucking Snoot Game. (though that game shits on anything Toby Fox has made)

>>714718693
alright sweet
theres a weird route, right? i remember downloading this specifically because the dev implied hes removing the weird route

>>714718697
You say jokes and it's just some purple octopus hitting on a woman or a Woolseyism

Alright then, Groucho, what's a good video game joke?

>>714719060
>Undertale
>No fourth wall breaks
>UNDERTALE
>NO FOURTH WALL BREAKS
11/10 ragebait I commend you

>>714719067
maybe it would if the dev didnt cut it short/rushed it, game really needed more time to develop the characters (and add some optional routes)

>>714702501
Where's the bullet hell in undertale? Dodging 1 bullet per fight does not make the game a bullet hell.

>>714719060
>Terminal faggotry
How can you be an Undertale fan and be homophobic at the same time? Toby would hate you.

>>714719072
4chan made Kawata Shoujo, that's it.

>>714718918
Quads don't lie

>>714719106
the weird route is badly written and chapter 1 is kinda bland, also the hug isnt in the current version yet, dev just shared that webm over at the place he posts updates

>>714718939
Yep, many anons, including me, were over at 8 back then.

>>714719106
It's there, but very forced. And the dev is removing it.

>>714719223
>m8
Newfag meme

>>714719154
If your experience with the game wasn't entirely based on cultural osmosis you might have known that there is not a single unambigious instance of a 4th wall break in the game.

spec ops the line did the moral message better

>That moment when Undertale isn't even a better game than ANY of its inspirations (Earthbound, SMT in general, Live a Live, Moon RPG)

>>714719223
i KNEEL

>>714717763
People ignore left wing shit in Undertale and Deltarune because they're fun, funny games. That's it. It has nothing to do with it being an indie game.

>>714718183
>>714719240
>not in the current version
WAITbros... should I WAIT?

>>714718939
>>714719072
>>714719350
>all this revisionist backpedaling
YWNBAO

Modern epoch Homestuck. Just ignore the cringe retards and the threads will atrophy

>>714719519
>if I call them revisionists it'll throw off the scent of my revisionism
Not gonna work Gamergate tourist

>>714718714
So are you lying or are you just casually admitting to being a underageb& newfag? There is nobody on 4chan that doesn't know there's a genocide route, that epic skeleton man is a boss fight, and that the game focuses heavily on meta shit. It's like saying you never heard of MLP. I don't believe you. Not because you don't like the game, but because it's been constantly discussed for a fucking decade. I've never played FF7 but I know every plot beat just from lurking here, and Undertale is basically on the same level.

If you are telling the truth, then I dunno, man. It's an overhyped game, but it got enough traction to be overhyped by being good in the first place. If you felt nothing when you did the Papyrus fight then you might as well stop because you won't enjoy the rest of it, either.

>>714719350
a porkslope turkeyhandle to you too good sir :)

>>714719072
And I, rightfully, shit on Snoot Game whenever it is brought up.

>>714704254
Zoomers migrating from reddit

>>714719517
If you hate left wing shit yet ignore something with left wing beliefs out of bias, you have no real principles.

>>714708020
Because troons and the rest of the LGBT have terrible taste

>>714718939
>2015 /v/ was fake and gay but 2025 /v/'s opinions are totally valid
What a retarded statement
Also the reaction to the demo was entirely "I WANT TO FUCK THE GOAT MOM" you disingenuous nigger

>>714719579
>no u
Unlike you I was actually there zoomoid.

>>714708020
>And have you considered theres a reason as to WHY it's recognizable?
So you're not allowed to dislike or even not care for any popular ever?

It's a fun, charming game. I can get people not vibing with it, but I feel anyone who hates it for what it is is just a contrarian fuckwit or a troll.

>>714719517
No, people ignore it because its popular and to shit on an indie game is a cardinal sin. It's that simple. And because indie developers don't have the industrial push of AAA developers, so when a gay loser from Canada puts trannies in his game it doesnt have the same impact as a fully fledged company doing the same to push a narrative.

>>714719518
the dev is currently reworking chapter 1 based on feedback from anons
he posts frequent progress over at /vrpg/

>>714719719
>>but 2025 /v/'s opinions are totally valid
Who said that? If anything the fact you realize 2025 /v/ doesn't mean shit should mean you realize 2015 /v/ also didn't mean shit

>Also the reaction to the demo was entirely "I WANT TO FUCK THE GOAT MOM" you disingenuous nigger
Yeah, which was really suspiciously strange tumblr-like posting on a board that was historically anti-furry with a passion..

>>714719849
A good game wouldn't have such an insufferable fanbase

>>714719240
>>714719275
Writing Weird Route into a fangame would be awkward given we don't even know where the official one is heading.

>>714719857
>puts trannies in his game it doesnt have the same impact as a fully fledged company doing the same to push a narrative.
Except Toby is putting LGBT shit in to push a narrative as well. I don't have it on me, but one of the reason Toby even made the HALLOWEEN HACK all the way back in the late 00s was because he was disappointed in faggot representation

>>714719983
your naivete is inspiring

>>714719683
Yeah man I actually don't watch TV or play vidya at all because there was at least one jew involved in the production of every single one of 'em, miss me with that idpol bullshit
Also I don't use computers because the so-called "Father of Computers" was a fucking fag. Can you believe that? They've been feeding us literal fag programming since before my grandpa was born. Ridiculous.

>>714719758
Good, then you should remember this

>>714719983
The fanbase is mostly disconnected from the game's quality, especially years down the line.

>>714719983
That's one of the most likely things for a good game to end up having.

Good leads to popular, popular leads to more dipshits in the fanbase.

>>714719984
Which is why I think it sucks compared to the Genocide Route. The intent of genocide was always obvious which is to just kill everyone. Weird route is so convoluted and we don't even know why we're doing all that shit to Noelle.

>>714719350
m8 is an ancient internet slang, retard.

>>714719983
(You) problem bud

>>714719240
>>714719876
yeah fuck, i might as well WAIT, i really hope theres a weird route/genocide equivalent though.

>>714720065
>Using a computer is the same thing as actively supporting a game that has contain that actively normalizes faggotry and troon shit

>>714702364 (OP)
>I was led to believe that it was some groundbreaking new fun RPG
Huh? It's just a cute, short game that's well done.

>>714720062
What's naive about it, every piece of media with a toxic fanbase is always toxic itself without exception, this is common knowledge to anyone who spent a handful of years online

>>714720075
Nah

>>714720082
Popular leads to normalfags that don't care, the UT/DR phenomenon is more similar to small horse show where the fanbase is almost exclusively insane and there are no mentally sane normalfags among them

>>714719884
>historically anti-furry with a passion
Next you'll say it was historically anti-anime

>>714720164
>thinks m8 is ancient
Get the fuck outta here kid

>>714719884
/v/ has never meant shit. GG was fucking gay and gave rise to idpol gigacancer that still shits up the board to this day. Go ahead and call me a tranny now, if you're capable of typing words while also drinking cum, you fucking queer, and when you're done go crawling back to your dead-as-fuck pedophile-ran shithole of an "altchan" so you can jerk off over calling a tranny a tranny on xitter. I can't FUCKING stand you people. FUCK OFF. YOU RUINED MY BOARD.

>>714720295
People cannot fathom having opinions anymore. You can recognize that a game is well made, but that you can still hate the game for your own reasons. I hate Deltarune for exaggerating the things I disliked about Undertale but it isn't a bad game, just one I don't like.

>>714719683
If I refused to play/watch/read anything with left wing shit in it, I'd end up just sitting around all day playing with my dick. Artists are inherently left wing. When you survey people for their personality and politics, the biggest predictor is that the further left wing you are, the more Open to New Experiences you are. Openness is a combination of creativity and intellectualism. Being an artist is synonymous with being left wing. That's just reality.

Also, I can't believe I missed you saying "right wing normies." Right wing normies don't play fucking video games, they hate video games. And if they ever give video games a pass, it's going to be absolute slop.

>>714719984
There's also the fact that it's way too enmeshed with Noelle and Kris' history to just copy/paste into a new set of characters.

>>714720356
Why would I say that, anons were always itching to find ways to discuss anime on /v/ so they didn't have to go to /a/, no such thing happened with furfaggotry, which was banned on sight

>>714720271
You won't get me to use the fag machine you fucking communist. Piss off.

>>714719984
Most of DRY was made before chapters 3 and 4 came out, when we only had the chapter 2 weird route to go with

>>714720501
sorry furfags, this is correct.

>>714720415
Put the fries in the bag

>>714702364 (OP)
Some games don't have a soul. That is true to some people too.

>>714720415
>/v/ has never meant shit.
You just weren't around back then, 3x3 and desktop threads didn't have a single bad game among them

>>714720519
I hope any future children you have troon out. It's the only deserved punishment for people who hate fagshit yet do nothing to prevent it.

>>714720519
>admitting to being a phoneposter

>>714720441
>If you refused to play anything left wing you'd jerk off all day
Ignoring the fact that you do that anyways, are you seriously trying to tell me that something like fucking Factorio or Minecraft is left-wing? Even games with actual stories can have messaging which each political faction can appreciate, which is why both the left and right wing love Metal Gear. Saying 'left-wing means good things and right-wing means you hate everything' speaks to your own biases and incapability to analyze something objectively and remove your own feelings from it.

>>714720640
That'll be 29.99 and don't forget the tip. Fuck you.

>>714720784
The worst part is probably doesn't even pirate anything and is actively funding games with left wing propaganda in it as well.

>>714716020
>If after 2 hours, you haven't laughed or enjoyed a character interaction or battle, the game might just not be for you.
There's a lot of games/discourse about games that should be like this. I don't find say, RTS games appealing, but I'm not gonna go into a WC3 thread and say it's a shit game. Too many people mistakenly think their experience with something is objective, which is fine except when it inhibits usual discussion.

How the hell is this /v/
where are all these secondaries coming from

>>714721190
/v/ has been like this for years.

>>714720594
All we really found out with 3 and 4 is how much the weird route doesn't change much.

>>714720691
Right back at you asslicker. You running Windows on that there homosexual demon-speak clickety-clacker that stands in as your wife? Good job supporting Bill Gates, who not only supports Zionist political coalitions and LGBTBBQ shit with the billions you helped him make, you race traitor. Or are you posting from your Samsung or Apple phone, both companies of which religiously observe Pride month every year? I bet the basement of the house that you lived in utilized Mexican labor in its construction you fucking RINO. You probably even eat food that you didn't personally grow yourself, huh? Degenerate. A fag could've picked those berries. Fag berries all up in your greedy mouth.
Basically, unless you're like me - an ancient Atlantean who posts from the bottom of the Mariana Trench by psychically manipulating this undersea cable by rubbing my dick on it - you're a tranny. You might not like it, but it's the truth. Cope.

>>714719650
>hates the only game that was truly /v/ culture
Lmao.

>>714720674
Are you sure about that?

>>714720784
>are you seriously trying to tell me that something like fucking Factorio or Minecraft is left-wing?
No, they're bore-wing.
>Even games with actual stories can have messaging which each political faction can appreciate
You can try, but the left is more fervent so it would still need to have gays and minorities in it or else they'll denounce it outright due to lack of representation. And old ideals that used to be safe and simple don't really work anymore. For example, Mario can't just rescue Peach from Bowser, that's now considered right wing, so Peach has to rescue herself and refuse to kiss him.
>Saying 'left-wing means good things and right-wing means you hate everything'
I didn't say that, though. Did you read my post?

Undertale and Deltarune's messages aren't even particularly left wing, it's literally just the gay/tranny stuff. Deltarune's message that escapism is only good in moderation is kinda' conservative.

>>714721557
yet, I assume chapter 5 and on will have bigger changes (I don't buy the cope people have where "the weird route will end in chapter 5 because it only shows up to that on the site", because toby actually never referred to chapters 6 and 7 at all anywhere else besides the chapter select menu)

>>714720070
that's actually the most tourist thing I've ever seen

>>714721652
Furfaggotry will never be /v/ culture.

>>714720784
>Factorio
Game where you pollute the planet through industry until the environment turns to poisonous sludge isn't left wing?
>Minecraft
The game which had a trans rights banner on the login screen for awhile?

>>714721798
It was literally made by /v/tards. You're like those retards who cry about lolis.

>>714721661
That's a damn solid list, though looks a bit late given the presence of so many Nintendo games so high up, a couple years earlier and it'd probably be even better without them, likely the most accurate top 100 list ever

>>714721661
>Bore-wing
So you have ADHD.
>Anymore
That's why I mentioned Metal Gear, specifically the older ones. You can take a look at Death Stranding 2 and how blatantly leftist that game is.
>I didn't say that though
You said that left-wingers are inherently more open than right-wingers. If that was the case, then the left-wing would surely be less ideologically uniform compared to the right-wing. The left-wing all have very similar opinions among them, while the right-wing is deeply divided on core issues. You can't generalize them as much as you can the left.

>>714721908
>Factorio
Its a game where you go on a genocidal killing spree against native populations with increasingly more advanced weaponry so you can secure resources and power for yourself. Can't get more right-wing than that.
>Minecraft
Oh, the game made by Notch?

>>714722001
>The left-wing all have very similar opinions among them, while the right-wing is deeply divided on core issues
Anon, why do you believe this? Think about it. Where did you get this information? Can you remember? Don't google it. Just ask yourself "where was the first place I heard this?"

>>714722001
>
You said that left-wingers are inherently more open than right-wingers. If that was the case, then the left-wing would surely be less ideologically uniform compared to the right-wing. The left-wing all have very similar opinions among them, while the right-wing is deeply divided on core issues.
JK Rowling ONLY disagrees with the left on troon issues, and she's one of the most reviled figures in leftist communities because of it.

>>714722234
Are you an idiot? Left-wingers will never concede on gays, trannies, immigration, Palestine, Ukraine, worker's rights and abortion. Right-wingers immediately began tearing each other to shreds when Israel bombed Iran and one half wanted to bomb them as well and the other half wanted to stay out of it.

>>714721915
Those are normalfags that infiltrate our threads to steal content for their social media of choice. They hate loli because it drives them away.

>>714722157
>natives populations
There's no sentient life on Factorio
>Notch
Notch wasn't the retarded incel he became when he made early Minecraft, and his absolute failures to produce any games since confirms Mojang were the real brains of the operation

>>714720784
>Minecraft isn't left-wing
Nobody tell him Notch sold out years ago.

>>714722419
So what are the bugs then? The obvious reference to Starship Troopers? Or do you not play with them enabled?

>>714702364 (OP)
Undertale is barely even a game, it's more like a VN with the occasional toddler-difficulty "bullet hell" thrown in

when does webm related happen in-game?

>>714722654
Aborted Snowgrave Chapter 6

>>714722542
>toddler level difficulty
>undyne

>>714722358
Most of the current "conservatives" in the older demographics are ex-Democrats who felt burned by the party turning increasingly towards progressive social justice crap they didn't care about while also warmongering just as much as the Republicans. Both parties are a coalition of a bunch of distinct forces that come together to support one team for convenience. Democrats range from unironic communists to social-focused lolberts to neoliberals to American supremecist "Shining City on the Hill" types, in much the same way that Republicans range from neocons to warhawks to ultraliberals (Reagan flavored) to unironic Nazis. You're being fed propaganda that reduces the opposing side to a singular force to remove the nuances of what they believe to make it easier to hate them.

>>714702364 (OP)
>it's bullshit "quirky humor" has pissed me off more than anything
Why does this piss you off? You seem unhinged.

>>714722654
it's a reference to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch/_tbG91ldKeo

>>714722542
> barely even a game
> vn
> bullet hell
WTF LOL

>>714722409
This. I like Toby's games because it's an interesting take on human vs monsters rpg elements.
>inb4 it was copied by Mother
Don't care, Undertale genocide route is pure fucking Kino and Deltarune's Snowgrave route has the best mindbreak cutscene I've ever seen in a game bar none. I WILL rape correct my childhood friend lesbian doe with my slave vessel. I WILL continue to believe in the schizo theories.
Trust the plan.

>>714722914
Harris never once talked about transgenders during her campaign, you fall too easily for propaganda

>>714716369
That was the case in GM8.1, which is what Undertale was started on. That version released 14 years ago.

>>714722914
Ignore the party politics. Centrism is completely dead amongst the youth. Look at young left wingers and right wingers. Young leftists are universal in their support for Palestine and your typical leftist spew. Right wingers are split between those who support Israel and think the leftists are terrorists, and those who believe that Israel controls America to do its bidding in the Middle East. Libertarians and Catholic integralists. Isolationists and imperialists. You can say the left has diversity of thought, obviously, but to say that the right wing isn't immensely more divided is silly.

>>714722654
Never.

>>714723026
The big shift happened during Obama's presidency when he failed to deliver on getting us out of the middle east, though a lot were also disenfranchised by the failure of the DNC to run Bernie instead of Hillary. This was exaxerbated by Biden being a lame duck who also failed to get us out of the Middle East. Trump's success was largely due to appealing to both leftists and rightists who felt that their party wasn't serving their interests, though many leftists opted to just not vote rather than switch sides outright.

>>714722001
>You said that left-wingers are inherently more open than right-wingers
Because that's what the studies show.
>If that was the case, then the left-wing would surely be less ideologically uniform compared to the right-wing. The left-wing all have very similar opinions among them, while the right-wing is deeply divided on core issues. You can't generalize them as much as you can the left.
I know, I've seen that image, too, but being high in Openness doesn't necessarily mean everyone will have different political beliefs, it just means you're interested in trying new things. People who are Open are more likely to try drugs and practice unconventional lifestyles, they have a great interest in the arts and other creative outlets, they crave novelty and so will value something for being new even if it isn't valuable in any practical sense. Does this not sound like being left wing to you? It's basically what defines being left wing.

But the correlation isn't that strong and there's obviously other factors. One reason it's difficult to define the right is because being right wing just means basically being against the left wing. Traditionally, a right wing person is just someone traditional, against change, against these "progressive" causes, but that's just what it means to be conservative and people often conflate the two. Libertarians also consider themselves right wing right now and they're not like that, they have their own causes, they just don't believe in forcing them on others (which is why they're so ineffectual).

I don't know why you're arguing this with me. If you don't believe art is inherently left wing, where's all the right wing art? Where's the right wing music and right wing video games? Anyone can be a celebrity nowadays, they just have to go out and make stuff. Right wingers don't because that's just not their thing. On the contrary, there are many famous right wingers who loathe art and video games and any kind of fiction and hobbies.

>>714702621
You're a newfag that wasn't here for the threads before this game blew up

>>714722409
I could see anthros fetishizing human females for how smooth their bodies are. Us men aren't looking so hot, though...

>tfw the tourists and newfags who swarmed in here in 2015 have been here for a decade now

Game is good. Everything else is just retarded culture war shit. End of story

>>714723568
Fuck moot for not deleting /pol/ during an election year like usual, worthless cuckold

>>714711223
>It has actual gameplay, unlike the majority of RPGs.
Most RPGs have stat manipulation, leveling that's actually meaningful, movesets, strategies to consider. Undertale has none of this and literally just a VN disguised as an RPG.

You're either baiting or genuinely too retarded to even be discussing this.

>>714723450
>You're a newfag
Yep, a 2012 newfag to be exact.
>that wasn't here for the threads before this game blew up
Correct. If I have the timeline right, I was over at 8 at the time.

>>714723130
I don't really disagree with that, actually, but I think it's more a consequence of the increasing radicalization and related hopelessness of the youth in general than anything particular to picking one side of the political aisle. The Left is forming a semi-united front against Trump because they feel threatened, whereas the Right currently has all the power and therefore has the luxury of fighting amongst themselves. You saw a similar pattern in reverse during the Obama years where there was a significant split in Democrats over what our role in the global stage should be while the Republicans were unanimously decrying gay marriage/abortion shit and trying to say Obama was born in Sudan or whatever.

>>714723568
/pol/tourists have taken over the board. Ever since 2015, there's been nothing but "problematic" video games that are "too political" but before that you could enjoy a session of Bioshock and come here to discuss the nuances of systemic societal compromises. Truly, once the government figured out they could grift the internet, 4chan became a cesspool for right wing propaganda.

>>714723026
She talked about them in the build up to the primary. Now hurry up and post the "fell for it again" picture.

>>714702364 (OP)
ME

>>714723519
Believe in HMOFA and HFOMA. Monster women loves us.

>>714702364 (OP)
I did. I played the game the second it came out, and immediately bought it for like 30 friends after beating it.

>>714723970
What I really fucking hate about this game is that this is just one scene even though it is by far, without a doubt, the coolest part of the game. The SOUL is criminally underutilized.

>>714723915
Jesus christ dude I'm not talking about politics. Politics politics politics politics I DON'T FUCKING GIVE A SHIT ABOUT POLITICS. I NEVER WANTED TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT POLITICS. I JUST DON'T WANT FAKE AND GAY SHIT IN MY GOD DAMN VIDEO GAMES. HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? JUST DON'T TOUCH MY ESCAPIST MEDIA. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ANY OTHER BULLSHIT YOU MONGOLOID FUCKING POLITICAL DICKSUCKING FAGGOT. STOP BRINGING IT UP. STOP USING IT AS AN ARGUMENT. STOP FUCKING THINKING ABOUT IT. CAN YOU STOP THINKING ABOUT POLITICAL GARBAGE FOR TEN SECONDS? CAN YOU NOT GO "MUH TRUMP" "MUH LEFT" "MUH RIGHT" "MUH [INSERT POLITICAL OPINION]" FOR A BRIEF SNIPPET OF TIME? FUCKING HELL DUDE.
IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR A FUCKING DECADE. LET IT REST.

>>714702621
Nigger it's got a 98% on steam reviews lmao

>>714724190
Should probably stop willingly engaging with people who are talking about politics then to be quite desu with you fampai

>>714723947
You're obsession is making you hear things that never happened, although you switching the goalpost from "they talked about SJW stuff too much" from "they talked about sometime before the entire campaign" is already funny enough

>>714702364 (OP)
i watched my favorite streamer asmongold play it and was rather unimpressed

>>714724327
Kill yourself you stupid fucking cocksucker.

>>714702501
please understand. toby is running a minmaxed music build with some leftover points in writing. he didn't have time to become a programmer or artist, he was too busy making the best indie game of all time

>>714709513
There's writing in outer wilds?
I just skimmed most of the logs

>>714724190
>don't want fake shit in my fiction
>"it's not political!"
>art being a political outlet for literal Millennia
>not realizing your entire life is owned and decided by your government
>don't like politics
Dillusions

>>714724347
How's Palestine?

>>714724478
>I am unable to tell the difference between a game that makes a political statement and one that tells you what to think
This is your brain on midwit-energy.

>>714723568
i starting posting here right after undertale released. lol i remember the /v/ butthurt from undertale winning gamefaq's "greatest video game of all time" tournament

>>714724407
Love you too faggot

>>714702364 (OP)
>everybody
It's just a case of a VERY vocal minority. And an annoying one at that.

>>714724481
That's all you got? Your love to suck israeli cock?

EVERYONE just INTUITIVELY UNDERSTANDS this as TRUE

>>714724823
Wait a minute... JANNY JANNY JANNY ANON'S POSTING DELTARUNE ON /v/ AGAIN

>>714713993
I don't know why you fags keep saying this. I see numerous Deltarune threads everyday hit 500+ replies. Normal threads too.

>>714723795
Swapping hats to manipulate numbers is not gameplay. Dodging bullets is gameplay. Simple as.

>>714723915
>right wing propaganda
Dilate.

>>714702364 (OP)
It was amazing on my first play through. The second time, it felt like a run of the mill rpg. Haven’t touched it since
The music and the characters are enchanting still. I almost wish I could forget about it so I can feel the magic again

>Undertale comes out and people like it, tons of discussion on /v/ and other places on the internet, it becomes regarded as one of, if not the single greatest game ever made
>Middle period where the game is now suddenly hated and viewed as overrated, people pretending they never actually liked it and start complaining about "muh fanbase", others eventually start saying that those who complain about the fanbase are worse than the fanbase itself, more ironic and absurd memes spawn during this time
>Latter period has people come back around to it and talk about it fondly, it isn't considered the best or worst thing ever created anymore but the general consensus is that it's a pretty good game
Why does it seem like nearly every popular game follows this pattern?
It's why I don't think you can truly judge if a game is good or not until enough time has passed, it either gets praised or hated much more than it deserves, oftentimes both, during the first few years after coming out.

>>714702364 (OP)
Children, women, and faggots.

>>714718484
DRYanon1's the guy with the demo out, definitely worth a play at some point even if you want to [WAIT] for the polish that he's putting on the first chapter
https://gamejolt.com/games/deltaruneyellow/981988
DRYanon2 (me) is incredibly lazy and should feel ashamed for not working on the fucking battle system.
both are doing it for one simple reason: more kanaklover content.
both are running on a similar idea base as well, having a lot of foundational stuff from the early yellow threads. but thats where it diverges, you can expect different stories and dark worlds if DRYanon2 gets something out

>>714702364 (OP)
>Who the fuck rates this game highly?
gays

>>714725410
Usually it's people overreacting to marketing. For Undertale in particular it was people overreacting to grassroots marketing, ie, organic shilling. A shitload of hype when the game first game out (fueled by Homosuck connections, furry lust, and the rather genuinely fresh take on that style of indie RPG) was hit by the contrarian counter-hype, and the two factions spiralled so hard that we're still having the same fucking arguments 10 years later. Advertising robots cream their electric pants thinking about that kind of engagement.

>>714702621
so /v/ 2014-2015

>>714725410
/v/ was shitting on this queer game right away zoomer revisionist kun, you weren't there

>>714725276
This nigga thinks skip rope is a better game than chess

I'm afraid only people with a soul would get it.
It's just not for everyone.

>>714726347
The demo came out and it wasn't popular at all, it found mild praise on /v/.
Then the game released, again a few threads enjoying the game. Then it started getting a lot of speed when Dunkey and a couple of other YouTubers started shitting out content, and it was immediately hated on /v/ for being popular and dismissed as Tumblr shit for gays or whatever.

So basically the post you're responding to is less revisionist than you are being, are you a 2016 tourist masquerading as an oldfag, perhaps?

>>714726594
>you need to be a sophisticated individual to understand this gay furfag tumblr lolsorandom walking simulator

>>714726697
I did some archeology. https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/312342043/#312347303
Dunkey's video came out on the 24th of October.

>>714726892
looks like the thread is mostly people talking about the game with a handful of shitposters trying to derail it.

Everyone who praised this game on /v/ was obviously painfully underage, you could tell from the posting style alone

Hell they still post like that 10 years later because they're all manchildren unsurprisingly

>>714725410
Toby was 100% correct that as soon as UT got popular the contarian faggots on /v/ would shit on it nonstop

>>714727012
Shocking, innit.

>>714727012
So the inverse of current threads, huh

>>714716020
Good comment, this is exaclty what happened to me. Everything fell flat and the game seemed to expect me to care about its weird goat mother and made it a big deal when I killed her.

When’s Wildfire coming out

>>714727286
in 8 years

>>714725023
Note how he said "janny" singular. There's one mod who hates this game with passion and spends all his waking hours deleting any Deltarune thread he sees even when there's an actual porn spam on the catalog. Obviously we can have normal threads when he's asleep.

>>714727227
I was 21 when the game came out and I thought the same thing. I can't tell if it's just a new batch of underage Anons, or like you said, a bunch of manchildren stuck in their tumblr phase.

>>714702364 (OP)
record profits bitch

>>714727284
>weird goat mother
I hated that bitch, I shanked her at the very first occasion.

>>714725023
its one mod thats been mostly reigned in but still has the occasional seethe.
for a good week, any thread about UT/DR would be deleted on sight to the point of hitting random other threads because of his melty.
we can have normal threads when he's asleep, of course.

>>714702364 (OP)
It's good and fun

>>714727249
>the only reason anyone could have to hate my game is if they're a contrarian
Holy shit what a gigantic faggot

>>714727401
>>714727585
>It's just one janny
Proof?

>>714727627
He really read you like a book, faggot

>>714727227
>no one ever liked Undertale
>and if they did they were underage
>and if they weren't they were manchildren
>and if not they were tourists
>and aktchually all the real veetards were on pedochan anyway

>>714727636
the fact that we could have normal threads for 8-10 and then around the same time every day they'd start getting smited for ~16 hours.

The cute thing about /v/'s relationship with Undertale and Deltarune is just how schizophrenic it can be, both literally and figuratively. Toby even managed to hit the nail on the head on how it would be received as soon as it reached further outside its intended audience, because he was also a rabid /v/tard when he released it. It's the man's dream game, and it was successful. Multiple times. It drives crabs so insane that they're willing to astroturf the dumbest tumblr tranny shit imaginable. You may as well purchase the dress you rented, you've been putting it on for over ten years and they still haven't put a dent in the man's reputation or the game's popularity. The only people more insane than anyone that lets it live rent free are the people that think Noelle isn't going to sit in the cuck chair next year.

>>714726809

>>714727708
>the only reason anyone could ever possibly have to dislike an intentionally low effort obnoxious Gamemaker pixel slop full of Tumblr writing is if they're a contrarian
We're reaching levels of faggorty that quite frankly shouldn't be possible

>>714727712
Yes the people talking up a Tumblr game on /v/ were obviously underage Tumblr tourists here after Gamergate, none of that is exclusive to each other, bet you thought you were being real clever

>>714727816
Why does Susie have a cuck chair?

>>714727816
>outside its intended audience
You mean non-furfags? Well yeah, obviously they'd hate it.

>>714727861
>11 years of free bumps
Thanks, dude.

>>714727816
Your faggot game will never be /v/ tourist, no matter how much you seethe about it

> it's bullshit "quirky humor" has pissed me off more than anything

>>714727708
Call of Duty is a popular game. By your stupid logic I'm not allowed to hate it despite all it's flaws without being a contrarian.

>they delete the threads where people talk about the game but not the one full of people doing "No, I'M the oldfag!"
grim

>>714727861
>game is well liked while it stays small within its inital audience
>the criticism that exists is fair and reasonable
>game's popularity starts to grow
>all of the sudden, "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT LIKE THAT GAME ITS FOR FURRIES!!!!@!!1!"
yeah, toby read you like a book.

>>714728118
Mods can see the oldfags all have vintage IPs and are objectively in the right

>>714727995
Tumblrites never came to /v/. They went to /b/ and /co/. You don't even have your bogeyman straight; you should've said it was SRS redditors and dangerhair SJWs. You don't know these terms because you're a newfag. I think you should probably kill yourself.

>>714727840
this is cringe even for porn

>>714728118
sup

>Another thread archived
Janny REALLY wants us on the bait thread.

>>714728057
>demon's name is FRIEND
>appeared in the room of the girl who had never had friends
>appeared to Noelle after her sister disappeared and Kris abandoned her
This thing preys on the lonely

>>714728141
You can say the same about GR15 show huh, guess the outcry and pushback to that shit was just 4chan being contrarian

>>714728085
See you next year in Chapter 5 threads, newfag.

>>714728201
/co/mblr homosuck fags were definitely coming here to talk about the tumblr game

>>714728293
dont play stupid
the problem with ponyfags is that they spammed that shit everywhere, you couldnt scroll for five seconds without seeing another pony.

>>714728403
>UT wasn't being spammed everywhere, on the boards and the the internet in general
lol

>>714728212
I know. Isn’t it amazing?

>>714728503
correct, on /v/ UT/DR has always been contained to 1-2 threads and you rarely see UT/DR images outside of their threads.

>>714728370
No, they weren't. They still had their actual general on /co/, /hsg/, at the time - it didn't get banned until like 2017. /v/ was always rabidly anti-SJW and Tumblr people were way too sensitive to put up with the culture. They tried to raid /b/ a few times and literally cried about it, and that was basically it for the tumblr crowd.

damn kris looks like dat

It'd a very simple recipe why UT is as popular as it is
Autism: The same autism that attracts retards to Mother/Earthbound and Homestuck (also a factor but homosuck is synonymous with autism)
YouTube: Ecelebs pushing this shit on masses who play shit their daddy eceleb tells them to because it's a factor of 'plesse notice me daddy eceleb'
4chan and Reddit (same fucking retarded userbase) shilling : the same type of shilling that made FNAF a hit along with Bronies
Normal people who aren't brainwashed faggots play it for five minutes see ghosts retarded.sngry face and alt f4
Furries and literal retards (Reddit YouTube and 4chan) keep on through
If your too stupid to disregard anything this site along with the ones above as a fucking bad idea you really do belong here posting your redditfrogs to threads of the sewage that /v//Reddit/YouTube likes.
Off yourself

>>714728932
>your
lel

>>714725490
I see, I must WAIT

>>714728674
>Ms. Holiday is helping me find my gun.

>>714728780
>the /v/ that would have full Bridget and trap threads was anti-SJW
You election tourist retards crack me up

>>714728878
Humans + Animals = Hot.

>>714728932
>>714729039
TAKING TOO LONG

>>714728878
that blueberry gets me fuckin goin

>>714729072
Being called an SJW was basically the same as being called a nigger well into the election tourist era. There was no SJW surge after all you faggot pedophiles pissed off to copechan, despite what you whispered into each others' ears while lovingly stroking hotwheels' nonfunctional baby dick. Please go back to your dead website.

>>714728878
Dess is so lucky...

>>714728878
>bitemark
Based

I just want to marry the doe. Thats why Im here.

>everybody
Redditors and Tumblrwhales aren't everybody.

TO END THIS THREAD, YOU JUST NEED TO SAY "I LOVE TV" 100 TIMES!

>>714702364 (OP)
Hey every !!

>>714702364 (OP)
There's a massive shilling campaign attempting to establish Toby Fox as a game designer genius, Undertale and Deltarune are just a vehicle to achieve this, they matter very little as games themselves and they are just excuses to worship Toby Fox. And yes, this has been going on for more than a decade.

>>714729681
I LOVE TV

>>714728201
>You don't even have your bogeyman straight; you should've said it was SRS redditors and dangerhair SJWs
same difference

>>714729818
>didn't even post the version where he's fucking your mom
Sasuga, faggot

>>714729762
its one of the best sellers on switch (you're wrong) and on a console, faggots like you said, would fail. has /v/ ever been right about anything?

>>714729741
>dubs other than 00
>ddin't even bother to put 0 before singles
Shit chart, redo from scratch.

>>714725023
This. Tumblr shutting out porn was a disaster for zoomers and now their games flood here

>>714729418
>goobergater election tourist talking about pre 2015 4chan
o lawd

>>714704254
Zoomers getting anal and defensive that the one game the played that was "le edgy" to them isn't getting cocksucked 24/7

>>714730181
>hurr durr i'm a big gay faggot please let me suck your cock
*unzips dick*

>>714702501
This felt more like a problem than ever during the Roaring Knight battle; the sword hallway attack moves so fast that the individual blades become this visual blur. I got better at surviving it with practice but no-hitting the first iteration of it seemed more like a memorization check than something you can react to.

Yeah yeah, skill issue.

>>714729957
have this one instead

>>714728646
Confirmed for not being on /v/ in 2015, there's a reason it was voted most hated game at the /v/GAs

>>714728878
>human bite mark
cheating manwhore

>>714730451
because of a few mindbroken tards that spammed the vote with bots?

>>714730307
>2011+14
>not implying implications
shiggy diggy oldfag-kun

>>714708392
This. The mother series were more fruitful and a lot of the meta stuff was in favor of telling ness's story about the fight against gygas and generally was lesser in the mother series as a whole. Just putting gimmicks like the save system and teasing reloading, etc just because its "le fourth wall" comes off more as cringey as its there just for spectacle. The battle against Gygas was the most surreal and wild experience I've ever had with a snes game and it beats out a lot of undertale in that regard

>>714729741
Rollan.
Do people still think there'll be chapter hopping?
Or item swapping, while we're at it?

>>714730864
You're talking about the series that had a child go into a hot spring with a naked man to "awaken" his powers, right? i forget sometimes.

>>714729681
[Selects Resist]

>>714730959
Based on Toby’s own commentary before the 3-4 release, it seems more like the chapter select and inter-file Shadow Crystals are just there to keep the game as accessible as possible to people who don’t want to replay everything whenever there’s a new release.

But idk. Gerson or someone did have a line about how there’s no shame in going back for something you missed, even if it might change the world.

>>714731103
i forgot to add that they cross-dress too

>>714714962
How can I help King DeDeDe?

>>714729681
I LOVE ELNINA!

>>714730959
i think the endings will give you a "permanent" effect for replays, and you need to collect them all to enable the true ending.
for example, snowgrave makes noelle realize her game breaking nature applies to her reality, this will make it possible to do certain things on a new game that let you break the prophecy.

>>714730864
and they never bothered to release their pedobound game to the west lmao

>>714730864
>zoomer seethe replies
jesus

>>714730864
and the ending of that was everyone dying a horrible death/being misled into a suicide

Frisk is so FUARKING strong...

>>714702364 (OP)
I for one finished it because of the hype and I hated it. Baby's firsts game.

>>714704254
This website makes a lot more sense when you realize that many anons here are the type to get extremely insecure and irrational when they realize that their opinion on something is in the minority.

Hylics mogs shit out of deltatroon or undertanny

>>714731627
Basado

>>714731627
>lolsorandumb slop with no substance mogs actual sincere story
Yeah sure

>>714731627
>visual diarrhea

>>714729681
KILL YOUR TV

>>714729741
Is there actually 100 fucking sprites of susie's goddamn face, what the FUCK is this retard doing wasting his time on this shit?

>>714731831
Most of those are edits.

>>714731103
Hey Eyepatchwolf, how ya doing, ya fucking virtue signaling faggot cunt? You know you're the problem, right?

>>714729681
I HATE TV
I HATE TV
I HATE TV

>>714731831
face sprites are probably the least time consuming thing in the game given that the vast majority will just be edits.

>>714731237
>"Hola mi pepino azul~ I've been waiting for you to come back, I ""borrowed"" your fluffy mamá's recipe on how to make butterscotch pies. Share a slice or two with me, jefe."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bKGECMQhZg

>>714731772
>>714731698
seethe,cope, and mald

>>714729681
I LOVE TV!!!

>>714718171
Last time i had to fend them off by telling them how regular people have sex, but some of them claim to be bisexual now so God Help us all if they come back again.

>>714729741
Rolling!

>>714729741
this is far too detailed

>>714731456
AND SEXY!

>>714729741
I roll a 6+ to revive Angron!

>>714731223
I need a monsta to clobber dat kir-by

>>714731627
Hylics is nothing more than an aesthetic art game you play once and forget about. Not a real story. Procedurally generated text.

>>714732706
the text isn't procedural in the second one, and the procedural text was still manually placed in the first game

>>714721775
it's summer, what did you expect

>Underfag and deltatroon arguments always default to "THEN WHAT OTHER GAMES DO THIS" when someone criticizing their gods gift to earth game proving that they only play one vydia
Toby fox literally plays more games than you faggots and thats how he was able to bring so many elements together to make this yet you only play one because your brainrotted zoomers. Mgs and mgs2 did all the shit in this game way better and had a much better story

>>714732706
Imagine if Hylics 1 was released now that the cat’s out of the bag on AI “artists”. At least the maker had the decency to program his own Markov chain, if I’m remembering right.

>>714731698
>>714732706
>Underqueers literally can't grasp a game with actual artistic merit because they've been fed a diet of pop culture slop all their lives
Lmao

>>714704813
With a game like Undertale that has this much presence in current gaming culture, I can't imagine someone going into the game as a blank slate 10 years later unless they were a kid when the game first came out and never engaged with online games discussion ever.

>>714732969
People are going to care more about human stories with intentionality instead of whatever artists/writers have been doing since surrealism and postmodernism

>>714733020
You're way too terminally online, UT and DR have yet to penetrate normalfag circles

>>714729681
I LOVE TV

>>714713317
>cheap meme humor.
>suggesting that le tumblr humor is anything but dogshit

>>714729681
I LOVE TV
I LOVE TV
I LOVE TV

>>714733135
It's one of best sellers on the highest-selling console right now

>>714708460
Jesus fucking christ talefags are almost as bad as tendies. God forbid you have an opinion

>>714733285
>best seller during a time when nothing else is out
Anon.. that was Stellar Blade a week ago, and Blue Prince a month ago, none of these games are known to normalfags

>>714717296
HEY THIS IS MY FUCKING POST FUCK THESE NIGGERS
I AM NEVER MAKING A JOKE EVER AGAIN

>>714733510
Wow, it took you long enough to come with one half-assed sentence, lmao.

>>714733545
kek

>>714733398
>Haters call talefags nigs normies fags
>Talefags respond in kind
>Gets surprised talefags are not going to be kind to the opoyw in the funny blue board.

Claiming Undertale is an RPG is like saying call of duty is a puzzle game. It's more akin to a VN than rpg unlike the mother series

>>714702364 (OP)
Deltarune is such a great game. I don't understand the negativity. I loved chapters three and four. And I loved gerson.

>>714733719
>Criticize the game once
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW COULD YOU DO THIS SAVE ME TOBY MAN

>>714733968
RPG gameplay abstractions with no other prevailing genre = RPG.

>I can call you fags buy you canot call ME fag, WAHHHHHHH

>>714702364 (OP)
the fanbase of this game is legitimately mentally ill and quite obsessed, like, I remember for a while after release youtube was filled to the brim with my little pony tier obsession for every single character in this game

>>714725276
>Swapping hats to manipulate numbers is not gameplay. Dodging bullets is gameplay.
Literal nigger logic

>>714734761
The fanbase isnt one person.

>>714733135
Nigger, before the copyright bullshit, uploads of Undertales music had all views in the tens of millions and Megalovania was in the hundreds. There was a time where there were orchestras were doing performances of Undertale music.
Sans and Megalovania are well known enough to get into smash bros even.

>>714723795
>You're either baiting or genuinely too retarded to even be discussing this.
Anon most people who played this game was babys first game and a lot of them have unfortunately migrated here from tumblr

>>714730567

>>714733135
Megalovania was played in front of the fucking Pope at the Vatican.

>>714735104
retard

Glad we got rid of that one.

>>714729741
lets see