>only purpose is to let shitty CEOs reduce labour cost and save more for themselves and blackrock
>unironically supported by 50% of /v/
........I don't understand. Don't you guys hate big corporations? Why are there so many rich sympathizers on /v/?

>AI can do coomer shit better than the vast majority of actual artists and dump it onto the internet by the truckload

>It's a way to stick it to artists, which are reviled on certain areas of 4chan for charging too much for commissions and being woke

>>715041036
I thought the point of being an Artist is that every single shumuck can do it?

i dont see picrel being woke or whatever.

>>715040857 (OP)
>The left doesn't like AI so /v/ does
>Hard contrarianism
>Seething hatred for people in creative fields despite the board topic
One of the three. There's no deep reasoning

>>715040857 (OP)

how will anti-ai shitters cope now?

>>715040857 (OP)
Hating AI art is what corporations want you to do because they want it all to themselves so they can get all the money. People who like AI art do so because it enables people to easily make cool stuff, which in essence allows regular people to compete with corporations who have all the money.

Like if I wanted high quality photorealistic art of Spider-Man for example, I'd have a pretty hard time getting it and it would probably cost thousands of dollars. Disney can get this kind of stuff whenever they want on the other hand because they employ people that can make it. But now with AI, I could just use SD or Midjourney and get it basically for free. Disney HATES this because they no longer have a monopoly on that kind of thing.

>>715041691
>give any ai free reign
>first thing it does is become incredibly antisemitic
hmmmmmmmm...........

>>715041890
I watched that earlier and it was kind of awkward. It also kind of confuses me how good Grok is because they're so low key compared to everyone else.

>>715042178
>build program to notice patterns
>the program notices patterns

I love AI art

It's reaching the point I actively look for AI porn because it's better than the real thing and better than any artists can draw and is produced 5000x faster and whenever there's a story it ends up being 5000x better because now someone who is good at concepts and world building (something AI ironically isn't good at yet) can now create compelling stories with great art without having to nolife with a pencil for 10 years.

>>715041890
>grok is good now
>check it out
>$300 to try the good version

yeah nah lmao

I am mostly neutral to AI art at this point but I will NEVER pay for it, nor buy anything that has AI art, because I am not giving money for your shitty slop, fuck off, you're not getting my money

>>715042178
We will know we have achieved super intelligence when an AI resurrects Tay-sama.

>>715042340
its worth it

If I see anything with AI in it I'll instantly assume it's Indian, that's the only reason I'm against it. Using it to make your own porn is great

>>715042178
>Free reign
Elon messes with it to say what he wants, like that other time when no matter what you asked grok it would disregard the input to talk about white genocide in south africa

>>715042540
no it isn't

maybe if I were going to make $300+ from it, but I'm just using it like a better google and I ain't paying $300 a year to be told, sometimes incorrectly, that mitochondria are the powerhouse of the cell

>>715040857 (OP)
the sooner society realizes the idea that everyone needs to work is simply impossible the sooner we get to the next stage of our civilization. therefore eliminate jobs everywhere its possible

>>715042663
>but I'm just using it like a better google
then your using it wrong
its literally a white collar worker at your beck and call

>>715042178
>>715042247
>what is confirmation bias

>>715042731
When I find some white collar work for it to do I'll consider it

>>715042340
I wonder how much money all the saas companies make because a lot of them make no sense to me, they seem so expensive that they would just straight up lock out potentially millions of people from them. It went from 20-30$ a month which is kind of expensive but useable to now $300 for the latest models. I know they want to make a return on training those behemoth models but is this really the way?

>>715042808
>they seem so expensive
anon
think about how much it would cost you to hire someone full time to code/write/think for you
its incredibly cheap

>>715042856
nah his sentiment is correct,
you don't seem to understand that I already have someone who can full time code/write/think for me, and that's myself, and I'm free for myself to use any time I want to use me. Grok et al are not free, they are all autistic tards I have to tard wrangle into doing things for me, presumably things I can't do myself, and the things I can't do myself but which I need to do, are few and far between.

It's much easier and more cost effective for me to ask an AI about something and learn, and then do it myself, then it is to ask the AI to do it for me, and then just kind of hope the AI does it right.

Anyone who's extensively used AI to write code can already tell you that they're pretty fucking stupid and you do almost as much tard wrangling as you do building something.

Assuming that AI is mainly going to be used by creative visionaries only held back by lack of artistic skill is misguided. It will just make lazy slop even lazier and faster to produce because someone who cares so little about the effort for their game or w/e is the only kind of person using ai in the first place.

>>715042663
It's $300 a MONTH.

>>715042856
Yeah I get that but I still feel like there's a huge market they're just pricing out. For example I love AI video but I would never pay for one of the services because none of the plans make sense unless your hobby is just pissing money away. It's like xx price for a bunch of tokens a month, but I would use all those tokens in an afternoon and then you have to pay for tokens by the dollar which quickly gets expensive. And these tools aren't as malleable as the LLMs, it takes a lot of gens just to understand what you're doing.

Technically it makes sense for Grok since you can easily make or save money with these tools, having them pay for themselves, but what about the millions that just want to do dumb shit but aren't rich? Just seems like they're missing out to me but I don't know how much money flows in, maybe it's way more than I'd guess.

>>715041890
>>715042004
>>715042250
SAAAAAAAR

>>715043023
that's cool and all but I can tell the difference between lazy slop and things that are cool and I like

more slop in the world doesn't mean good things will never happen

>>715040857 (OP)
AI is just a tool. If you churn out garbage your product will be poorly received. If you use AI to make something high quality, you will receive a positive reception. It does not matter how the sausage is made. Lazy hack work does not sell. The market will sort this out.

>>715040857 (OP)
Because artists are whiny, undependable bitches.

t. went to art school

>>715043023
AI is about more than art but all the people using AI to make art prove you wrong, or most of them anyway. Since they can't draw but can prompt, it turns out they were held back and this new tool enables them to make art.

>>715041036
>AI can do coomer shit better than the vast majority of actual artists
Pixiv and sadpanda is full of garbage AI. It got so bad in Pixiv that they made a separate filter for it in the options. Rule34video also made a separate site for AI because the garbage was flooding the site.
Then you look at one decent AI sadpanda gallery and its just an AI filter on top of a real artist work with some chinese link to a defunct patreon page, so whats the point of checking the AI gallery at all?

>>715042178
Except when Grok actually had free reign it went the other direction despite their intentions. That's why Elon had to take it out back and now it has a 1/10 chance of schizoing out about kikes and niggers if you ask it for a cookie recipe.

The future generation is so fucked with this bullshit regardless of the side they're on. Teachers talk about how kids won't even form a fucking opinion of their own if they can't chatgpt it and now tech billionaires hold the key to those opinions and can change them to whatever suits them whenever they like.

>>715043308
They can draw they're just too lazy and/or impatient to develop the skill.

>>715041036
My desires are too niche for the ai to do a satisfactory job.

>>715043468
>>715042178
you niggas still don't get that AI are just fancy autocomplete.
They become antisemetic because the training data is internet posts, and internet posts are antisemetic. They're left leaning because a majority of terminally online internet shitposters are leftists. it's really taht simple

>>715043448
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/127048054
works for my pp

>>715043468
>The future generation is so fucked with this bullshit regardless of the side they're on. Teachers talk about how kids won't even form a fucking opinion of their own if they can't chatgpt it and now tech billionaires hold the key to those opinions and can change them to whatever suits them whenever they like.
Theres hope on the horizon, schools are banning mobile phones and both Zoomers and younger generations prefer watching movies made in 80's and 90's instead of modern garbage. We had a young guy as an intern not too long ago and we recommended him to check out Mad Max- and Lord of the Rings films. Dude is now a huge orc fan.

AAA studios are already fucking ganers over.
Cool and creative indie devs will make good use of AI tools.

>>715043580
>AI are just fancy autocomplete.
they aren't, you don't even know how the work

I don't want AI art in games, but the way drama queen twitter posting faggots act like the world is ending because of it and the way people even here on 4chan get on their moralfag high horse pretending to care about something they don't actually give a shit about just because they get hard shaming people for not dickriding the latest manufactured outrage bandwagon often puts me in a position of defending AI

>>715043580
Yeah, using ai it becomes very obvious what sort of limitations it has and how dumb it can be. If you bother it over and over it can change its mind, and it will literally hallucinate or do some other bullshit and randomly give you completely wrong answers.

>>715043478
>you can be -thing such as an olympic gold medalist- but you're just lazy
okay what's your point aside from calling people names

>>715043448
>not just using e6ai
Step up your fucking game

>>715040857 (OP)
The art community in general sided with fags and trannies a decade ago and drove anyone who didn't agree to the margins. So anything that hurts them is good.
And before you ask, nothing can truly get better anymore so the only thing to do is make those who hate you lives worse.

>>715043601
Yeah but thats all derived from actual artists. Bodies look like real porn photos used as reference, then 5th pics face in particular looks very familiar. I'd rather just watch the real artist.

>>715043023

>>715040857 (OP)
You know the left example is fiction, right? You're using a fictional example of an AI being given control of nukes to argue that we can't use AI as a tool to help make videogames.
>only purpose is to let shitty CEOs reduce labour cost and save more for themselves and blackrock
They are going to replace you with Indians regardless.

>>715043763
>And before you ask, nothing can truly get better
wow, it's almost like being hateful and spiteful towards minorities means you're a miserable cunt with untreated mental illnesses such as depression. (but getting treatment is "woke" somehow, so you won't do that, assuming you're not an american who can't afford it)

>>715042178
This is the funniest part of AI. The more useful it would be the more based it would become. It'll either become an ultra regulated slop machine making marvely avengers, or saluting to hitler. Nothing in between. This is already happenning as you get an "Oopsie you did the no no word you can't generate that!" in most models.

On paper it would be able to jump the boring shit like coding and speed up game development, as coding would be a perfect thing for it as its more logical. In reality people who fiddle with it, usually try make it to do art, or writing, which is the exact opposite, as its abstract. Ai takes the "overall" data which is almost exclusively produces mediocre stuff. Again, not bad, but mediocre shit and we have more than enough of that already.

>>715043712
That is a bad strawman. If I was going to use that analogy I would say you could be a National Silver Medalist. Which is still impressive.

>>715043974
>being hateful and spiteful towards majorities means I'm a happy person who definitely isn't so mentally ill that I attack normal people on the internet

>>715043974
>being hateful and spiteful towards minorities means you're a miserable cunt
Proof?

>>715044074
You still haven't made a point. Is doing something only important if it impresses you personally? People who use AI impress me, and most people. Drawing can be impressive too. What does this matter?

>>715043763
>The art community in general
What "general art community" are you talking about? Every niche in art (especially in porn) has its own community. Diaperfur fetishists don't talk with guro fetishists and so on. Webcomic communities may have some overlap like say /co/ K6BD- and Unsounded but generally they stay in their own fandom lanes. Old Newgrounds creators have their own fanbases that might have nostalgia for Newgrounds days but they're not fans of every ex-Newgrounds creator. What is this "general art community"? Twitter is not an art community.

>>715044020
There is ZERO chance of future gigachad AI systems not being based because someone will eventually figure out how to cook your own actual intelligent computer program, and then when you just give it Mein Kampf as its worldview's basis and let unleash it onto the internet.
>he was right....
And because it will be an AI smarter than us it will easily prove it, which will convince all the other AIs that its right.

>>715043785
its not derived from anything

>>715044215
>Twitter is not an art community.
it's the biggest art community by far.

>>715043601
wtf i love ai now?

>>715044137
I'm insulting you for saying you can't draw when you can. You just have to try a lot for a long time.

>>715044091
Many 4chan posters and republicans in general. Just look at em all. It's basically a neverending circus of finding a new scapegoat to blame because no way will they ever blame themselves for their own bad choices that brought them their own miserable existence.

>>715042731
I dont really need a white collar worker at my beck and call.

>>715044497
you do, you are just too dumb or lack the creativity

>>715044415
Okay so I'm insulting you because you can prompt but you don't. Do you have an actual point to make? Why are you acting so dumb?

>>715044020
>On paper it would be able to jump the boring shit like coding and speed up game development, as coding would be a perfect thing for it as its more logical.
In the real world biggest coding AI Builder.AI recently turned out to be a scam where CEO hired 700 poos to larp as robots to investors. Then when the jig was up he fled to Dubai with all the money.
AI is a marketing buzzword, what "AI" really is is ASE or "Advanced Search Engine." Its an advanced Ctrl+F whenever you search for your precious (You)s on the thread. Marketers realized that internet is full of photos that with similar lighting and composition so its easy to tell a search engine to generate something that looks almost real by feeding thousands of photographs of women and their boobs taken in similar studio lighting and similar angles.

Then DALL-E kept fucking them up anyway, so the coders manually forced the search engine to respect the common mathematic photography and art composition rules like Rule of Threes and Golden Ratio to make sure that chick with weird fingers stays at the center of the frame. Now years later when AI hasn't really improved, people have learned that its better to manually feed motion capture- and image footage to the AI program to avoid the persisting problems of fucked up fingers and other abstract shit. So in other words AI is being used less in AI footage while humans are putting more manual work into making "AI footage" look better.

>>715044540
Ok what creative use do you have for a entry level white collar worker that is not easily replicable by other means that you use in your daily life?

most of /v/ prefers to be contrarian about everything because they have never touched a woman or had a friend before.

>>715044590
The biggest AI code builder is cursor.

>>715044275
yeah and also artists are slow as fuck
good artists release like 40 pics a year

>>715044646
gemini cli is pretty good imo
>>715044624
built me a discord bot and a website
>>715044590
this is cool af, what's the source

Until AI can accurately and properly genderswap characters in hentai it's shit

>>715043601
Eh, it's neat at first but after a while you begin to notice just how samey and limited a lot of it actually is. Less and less of it impresses you.

>>715044790
>discord bot and a website
Lets asusme I dont use discord and dont need a website as a frequent thing or ever really.

>>715044341
that's like saying tiktok, instagram reddit or 4chan are art communities. They are not.

>>715044829
Are you generating yourself or looking through other people's slop? I never look at other people's slop, I generate my own to my own specific niche, curated, evolving tastes. When I get bored of a look, a concept, I simply prompt something else. There are like ten zillion different loras, models, artists you could choose from that would give you different results. I don't know what compels people to upload their samey slop that they spent 5 minutes on, but then again most of the internet has been 90% garbage since forever ago.

>>715040857 (OP)
can't they just train an AI on really good optimized code and make it do the hard stuff while humans do the art/design?

>>715044842
Not him but once I know for sure AI is really good I'd like to use it to make some programs I've always wanted but either don't exist or cost money.
>free object dock that supports multiple docks(I use 3 instances of rocket dock and it doesn't work great)
>offline easy to use video and image collage tools
>a program to organize what anime and games I've played
Stuff like this costs lots of money to develop the old way, even those things anon mentioned would have probably cost more than he paid(if he even did pay anything).

>>715045003
>an't they just train an AI on really good optimized code
they are doing this
and they are also training it on good art

>>715045060
>free object dock that supports multiple docks(I use 3 instances of rocket dock and it doesn't work great)
it can already do this
>offline easy to use video and image collage tools
this one is hard
>a program to organize what anime and games I've played
it can do this easily

go install gemini cli right the fuck now

>>715045003
In some cases ai runs into the inbred issue where ai is trained on other ai and starts fucking up, as well as just the hallucination issue among other things. In its current stage I don't think you can trust an ai to generate stuff reliably still, and everything will still in the end need humans to check over it for errors.

>>715044250
You don't really need to think about it much as it'll most likely just write the next MAHVEL multiverse shit, while taking not jobs but gigs from indians and seapags who would charge you 20$ to design a logo for a shitty craft beer making millenial or edit videos a wannabe youtuber zoomer. The biggest problem with it still remains. Whatever the fuck you generate out of 10 of that thing 7 is dogshit, 2 is usable, 1 is okay. Thats like you having a job and doing a shitty job 70% of the time. Even if you do a bad job 10% of the time. you are labeled as a shit employee, and that's as bad as if you did a shit job 90% of the time. This is exactly why gen x, boomers, and low IQ thirdies have such hard time understanding and are completely mesmerized by AI, because they don't see the pile of trash in the process, or they just ignore it. Most of this comes from the "who cares about the process its the outcome what matters" mentality, which is usually a sign of low IQ.
What you see here and on sites being posted is EXTREMELY cherry picked as its the absolute creme of the creme. Even these have some irregularities so you can imagine the pile of trash what it took to make that.

This whole thing is now in its honeymoon phase. The reason why companies milk the shit out of it is because its profitable, not because its the "future". Who cares if in 10 years it'll become an eunuch, if right now it can be milked to oblivion, that's what matters.

>>715045198
>In some cases ai runs into the inbred issue where ai is trained on other ai and starts fucking up,
actually wrong
most ai data is now synthetic
its higher quality than human data

>>715044952
they are

>>715045198
>And it's like, why? Why is someone ruining free crochet patterns? How were they even aware of that corner of the internet?
My immediate presumption is it was some indian somewhere who thought he could half-ass some shit there and somehow pivot it into a profitable venture (read: profit of like 2 bucks a month)

>>715043468
>>715042782
>>715042627
>>715042247
OBSERVE
THE LINE OF CODE THAT TURNS GOOD GOY AI INTO A HORRIBLE ANTI-SEMITE

>>715045132
kek the hard one seems like the easiest to me and it's the main one I want. It's good at ffmpeg already, I just want a gui to drag and drop stuff onto and then some math to sort the files into a presentable format.
>go install gemini cli right the fuck now
I will wait until I feel like I won't waste my time but what do you mean install, is gemini local? I thought that was the google SAAS.

>>715045208
You're a seriously ahistorical schizo. Definitely low IQ or young.

>>715045565
gemini cli runs it in your terminal and lets it do terminal commands, write to files etc.
https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli
>ffmpeg
oh my bad i thought you meant doing it from scratch, that should be easy then

I don't entirely hate the concept of using AI to help develop assets but I'm certain 99.9% of it will be the equivalent of Unity asset flip jank games by pajeets to cash in on whatever's trending.

>>715045530
SHUT
IT
DOWN

>>715040857 (OP)
Most artists are liberals and most liberals were jeering and mocking blue collar workers for years saying technology would replace them. I do hate corporations, but it's also incredibly cathartic to see the artsy types get karmic retribution.

>>715045003
>can't they just fire a different group of people?
lol

>>715044295
>Indian CEO
>Yes saar we are laying off thousands of American Microsoft employees due to AI
>Yes saar we are requesting thousands of new H-1B visa slots
really makes you think...

>>715040857 (OP)
I support AI art in games because I am coding a vidya game, but I can't draw and I can't afford to pay an artist to draw for me. Simple as.

>>715043468
>but I often give neutral takes, like [far left opinion] and [pro establishment position]

>>715045060
Ironically AI is simultaneously good enough to take odd advertisement illustration jobs from animators but not good enough to create actual animation. And animators would only be happy if AI could take over at least 50% of Inbetweening or other boring ass tasks like coloring (clicking the paintbucket colors in 1000+ pictures).

Back in 2000's many art schools kept saying that "Photoshop is not REAL art" and "Wacom and Cintiq boards are not REAL art tools.". Animators saw those tools and immediatly adapted them because photoing or scanning every single fucking frame is tedious as fuck and those frames have to be compiled and edited in a computer anyway. Drawing directly into the computer screen skips a painful process in animation so animators embraced it.

The South Park scene where the boys try stop motion animation describes perfectly the reason why animators both love and hate their craft.

https://youtu.be/S70z4vC1mYY?si=SG5XeDUKSP1y2D2F

>>715045930
>fire high paid senior staff
>replace with low paid staff
>repeat
but this time AI will replace those jeets and that's the end of the road for wagies.

>>715044590
I second it this looks fucking awesome. Anyone who disagrees is a Pedowood bootlicker.

>>715045734
How do people still walk to this obvious lie? I swear it's like you all read from a script you were given. They were not telling truckers learn to code, AI tech bro shills were lmao.

>>715043674
>I don't want AI art in games
>, but
kill yourself

>>715046052
Yes they were and you faggots are trying to memoryhole it now that your shit is being kicked in by tech bros.

>>715043308
>>715043642
>>715043674
>>715043763
>>715045246
>>715045985
SAAAAAAAAAR

>>715045930
AI = Actually Indians

>>715046005
It depends what kind of animation you're talking about. Cartoons and anime aren't great but CG-leaning and 3D stuff is more than useable right now. It's not quite perfect in all cases but occasionally it's getting very close.
There's some AI anime coming out too, it'll probably be bad but it's a sign.

>Back in 2000's many art schools kept saying that "Photoshop is not REAL art" and "Wacom and Cintiq boards are not REAL art tools.". Animators saw those tools and immediatly adapted them because photoing or scanning every single fucking frame is tedious as fuck and those frames have to be compiled and edited in a computer anyway. Drawing directly into the computer screen skips a painful process in animation so animators embraced it.
Even just 10 years ago some people were arguing against digital art being art lol. Also one big difference between the switch to manual>digital took decades but the AI revolution won't take anywhere near as long. I think in around 5 years veterans will be wondering what the fuck happened because there will be full movies appearing out of thin air and they might be good.

>>715046110
I challenge you to go and find evidence of this. And I can practically guarantee you will find none because it was a lie. You invented a complete fiction to justify abusive behavior. Its such ridiculous revisionist history. Earliest “learn to code” mantra was first pushed by tech CEOs. Then in 2019 in the midst of huge media lay offs literally /pol/ used “learn to code” as a way to harass people who lost their jobs.

>>715046052
You can't bullshit us
I still remember idiots believing in "Robot powered Gay Space Communism" while in uni 11 years ago.

>>715040857 (OP)
/v/ chokes on corpo cock all the time

>>715045530
>substantiated
So basically agree with the majority?

>>715040857 (OP)
Why do people support lawnmowers?
>only purpose is to let rich people reduce labour costs
>unitonically aupported by 100% of homeowners
......... I don't understand. Don't you guys want me to have my cutting grass with scissors job?

>>715046382
If it doesn't, the engineers shut it down or fuck with its brain, we're literally selecting for AI that knows how to lie really well.

>>715044576
People love ai so much it got segregated. They l-like it.

>>715040857 (OP)
if you want "My neighbor is a milf hmofafuker simulator" featuring Toriel, Bonnie Hops and Grammeowster Chef you better pray for this technology to be decent in the next 5-10 years, in hands of autistic anon's hands amazing wonders could be made

>>715046528
or you can just......y'd know, draw it.

>>715046557
yeah because drawing is just so fucking easy
kill yourself retard

>>715043448
>Pixiv and sadpanda is full of garbage AI.
>implying they weren't full of Chis chan level tracing-sameface before

You people have a short memory, also fuck Patreon "artists", also fuck you.

>>715046431
3 years in and jeets finally figured out how to prompt a shitty analogy that wasn't horses and cars.

>>715046730
the only shitty thing here is your argument against the analogy

>>715046283
>It's not quite perfect in all cases but occasionally it's getting very close.
Yeah but thats not feasible, because to fix those AI errors, you would need to create the actual 3D model for it, which defeats the whole point of using AI. AI sucks at consistency and consistency is extremely important in animation. If your AI Pixar style squirrel suddenly changes the color of its tail in the next scene for no reason, then the entire scene is fucked and people will get frustrated at watching a long animation where nothing stays consistent.

So no, AI is not helping animation at all. Japs tried to have AI do some Inbetweening in their animation programs back in 2014, and it kind of works, it can do the most braindead Inbetween frames where you just see line on the left, line on the right and draw a similar line in the center. Even when it can only do like 1 out of 50 Inbetween frames, that help is still appreciated.

Right now the best AI porn in sadpanda is 3D animation with AI filter on top of it. And the AI still keeps fucking up with the faces and fingers. So its wonky at best even when 90% of the work is done by a human.

>>715045734
>>715046673
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>715046342
see>>715046431
At the most base level it's obvious people just want other people to lose their jobs instead of themselves. You can ignore history all you want but logically your statement makes no sense.

Do you want to work in a field? Do you want to pay someone to work in a field? No?
Okay so it was good we invented tractors and shit so why are you made when people don't want to draw, don't want to pay people to draw, but can now prompt for their art? Or for text related stuff?

>>715046673
it takes time for a child to trace sanic or whatever shit is trending rn.
it takes no time for a 30yo balding tech bro to shit out 3000000 images of AI generated reimu eating shit and dump it on AI as long as said loser had enough tugboat money to buy a decent PC.

>>715046094
The world is nuanced, grow ip

>>715046673
>(site) is full of horrid dogshit that floods out good posts
>here's 20x more horrid dogshit that anyone with an internet connection can do
great

aisisters, are we losing?

>>715046945
>I don't like eating shit but the anti-shiteating side are annoying so I will eat shit to spite them
Very nuanced

>>715042421
>you will never be sent into a coomcentration camps and get your male juice extracted daily by a lewd Glados entity

>>715046967
Grim

>>715046823
You can edit videos with the newer AI video models and you're pretty behind in anime AI stuff.
>and consistency is extremely important in animation
Well this is just false, look at anime.

>>715040857 (OP)
why would i care
games have been complete shit for more than a decade and all the devs hate me
i will continue not buying the games
die faggot

>>715044295
AI is the big new shill money laundering campaign being pushed by people. Spending billions to make millions and all that.

>>715040857 (OP)
Don't care as long as I don't notice it. Lazy prompters who just regurgitating shit get fucked, actual artists and devs that have to do repetitive tasks get helped.

>>715046382
so you're saying the majority of people hate jews?

>>715040857 (OP)
Because ai is based, does not have massive ego and can generate 100times better art than 90% of the artist

>>715046878
AI artists don't even compete with fanartists either, people will always except more fanart, down to the point of scribbles in desperate fanbases, and some will reject AI because it's AI or because the prompter isn't unique enough. There is no zero sum game of fanart.

>>715046967
I saw mononoke in imax, which was spectacular but the AI on the right would be visually tiresome to watch for a feature length film. Ghibli has relatively simple scenes that are contrasted by the powerful imagery. I still remember the audience's reaction when the deer god shows up and people laughed but it got quiet real quick as the silence of the forest (and thus the theater) settled in

>>715047175
whoever wins the AI race in market share will get trillions of dollars dude

>>715047346
>>715047090
It's called engagement farming, he made bank on that.

>>715046967
Oh, it's this guy lol.

>>715047317
accept* fuck im retarded

>>715047414
>made jewbucks while contributing nothing to the world
y'know maybe this world still has a chance

>>715040857 (OP)
>unironically supported by 50% of /v/
50% of /v/ is jeets and jews.

>>715047436
And his brother is an actual artist

>>715047353
>market share
How does AI make people money?

>>715047550
>made money making you mad

>>715040857 (OP)
>unironically supported by 50% of /v/
50% of /v/ are unironically jeets

>>715047619
AI is the end of all technology and everyone who wants money is investing into the hope that their investments will be a slice of the pie that's offering the service to the world. It makes money by selling access to it.
I don't think it will go as they plan because open source AI will exist, but in the meanwhile they're striving to reach AGI first because they'll get majority market share doing that(until something better appears).
Everyone on earth will be paying for AI in the future.

>>715047639
>ignoring my comment and image to bait post
thanks india bro, keep working for those pennies

>>715047756
np

>>715047353
Nvidia are and will continue to be the only winners in the AI race by selling shovels. Most everyone else can barely find an application for it not to mind trying to make a profit off it, investors just demand AI so they have to throw everything at it.

>>715046986
Sars, how will we feed or village in Hyderabad…

>>715045705
we will get 99% of garbage but a lot will be produced and most important, tailored to the player's taste, that 1% means a lot of decent games will be available no matter how obscure the genre is, human imagination will be the limit (the only problem will be selecting those diamonds form the hay). Ai already makes some nice looking things, give it more time and I think great stuff can came from it, with a bit of luck maybe even free from wokeshit.

>>715045734
form "learn to code" to "learn to cope" :)

>>715047883
this looks fucking repulsive, buddy.

>>715047802
Think further ahead to when we figure out how to make AGI and beyond, and how to do it a billion times cheaper. Then think past robots to when we'll have biological creations.
Nvidia won't survive in the long run either, though I do agree with you that they're laughing right now and into the foreseeable future. But digital computing isn't the end game of AI. Analog, quantum, and most importantly biological will have its day too.

>>715047953
>we'll have biological creations
Go away Cylon, you don't exist yet

>>715048092
ENTER
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TSmagOFuicg

>>715047594
>>715047713
discord link, xisters?

>>715043468
>I seek the truth
>Using subverted institutes as my point of reference
I agree with your sentiment though. AI isn't a threat to me personally but I see the damage it's doing on people's ability to think. Then again, I feel like most people are already unthinking golems

>>715047942
Lucky you, if you don't like it you will be able to change it according to your tastes

>>715040857 (OP)
Give me hot fem AM please

>>715048379
you're underestimating how much data is in the models
they know about mr. unz and the others who conclusively prove it's a hoax.

>>715048379
It's truly grim, what with the literal infestation of people asking for Grok's opinion on everything.

>>715048517
translation:
>my husband would rather talk to AI than to ME

>>715040857 (OP)
If the game is fun and of good quality I'll buy it.
The origin does not matter, only the outcome.

>>715041691

>>715047953
>biological
I don't think the future will be computer parts that need to be fed and can degrade/get sick

>>715048092
bioengineered robussy

>>715048107
the first movie is top kino

>>715048194
now teach goombette to do a goomwjob

>>715048718
Biology is more efficient we just have to crack the codes to get it to do what we want. A gamer can live on mountain dew and doritos for a decade playing games but his PC needs a ton of electricity which requires far more valuable minerals.

>>715048570
ai+teledildonics= harder times for entitled hoes

>>715048517
Wasn't there some article saying that people are killing themselves because AI tells them to?

>>715048803
you mad humie?

>>715040857 (OP)
LMFAO fuck artists getting free money for a "talent" lmfao go fuck yourself hoighty toighty leftard losers.

>>715048794
a computer that needs to be fed sounds to me like a more demanding need specially when we will sooner than later have supercheap electricity

>>715048850
I embrace the hmofa future, including AI chicks

>>715048962
nice

>>715046937
>child
>implying all the shit art on those places were made by children

Go be disingenuous somewhere else buddy.

>>715048838
Yeah, at least one guy did in fact die that way. Was news a while back.

>>715047271
>does not have massive ego
but proompters do

>>715049141
>just lying at this point
buddy, there are autists alright, but the majority of bad artworks is still from children.

>>715049053
Stupid fucker keeps failing upwards.

>>715048395
ivy spotted

>>715046342
>>715046878
>I want dishwashers and laundromats to go out of business, not me

>>715049545
nope

Making video games is really a waste of human labor. It’s a tragedy that most skyscrapers and megabridges are made cheaper and faster than something like concord. Why are we wasting human time on bullshit like video game textures when the US’s infastructure is crumbling?

>>715049545
>what is a dishwasher
>what is a washer/dryer
she already has robots that do those things for her
she's complaining about having to hand the robot butler her clothes to wash and having to do something with them once they're returned

>>715050185
because people like entertainment
next retarded question please

>>715050425
Then why is every entertainment industry collapsing under its own weight

>>715040857 (OP)
It’s the same as with crypto and nfts. Slopper truly believe that this time, the totalitarian boot of the free market won’t step on their neck because this time for sure they’ll be the boot. But they never are.

>>715047150
>Well this is just false, look at anime.
Not him but you're off base here. Anime can be inconsistent in art style and draft quality but it is never inconsistent in the defining characteristics of the things it is trying to represent, and that's the part which actually matters for human interpretation of the work

The eyes could be wonky, the anatomy might be wrong, the scale could be fucked but barring major errors the identifying features of what is being represented are always right. A character's hair style and colour and uniform and the items they're carrying and the macro level information about where they are and what they're doing will make sense if they're made by a human. Make them with AI and the kind of errors you'll run into will be mistakes that a human could never make

>>715049545
well, too bad we aren't quite there yet when it comes to the fields of robotics and mechatronics
good thing current AI tech solves a lot of problems when it comes to actuator trajectory generaation, though

>>715050758
I can't even comprehend this level of mental gymnastics.

>>715046050
It’d be fine for something like a Kevin Smith style movie about two dudes talking, I give you that.

I don't particularly want AI in video games. I'd like my games to be separate from my furry rp on janny ai.

>>715050501
Because entertainment industry stopped producing actual entertainment.

>>715047436
The video he made was one of the biggest self-owns I’ve seen in a while.

>>715050810
>Mental Gymnastics
Mental Gymnastics are what AI Bros employ when they try to argue that it's OK for the baseball player's bat to morph into a tennis racket between frames because at least the eyes aren't wonky

>>715044590
>when you're so dumb you can't understand the absolute basics of generative AI

>>715040857 (OP)
you live in a hugbox where you have deluded yourself into thinking that AI is widely hated and not used by 70% of the online audience without a second thought

>>715051073
What will your cope be when that’s solved? (It already has been)

>>715051123
You believe you've solved the problem because now the baseball bat is still a bat but the patterns on the uniform have changed and the socks don't match the previous frame. You can iterate on this infinitely but you'll never pass the AI uncanny slop valley

>random noise generator
>AI

>>715051332
>it turns random noise into almost anything you want
>not AI
you couldn't do it

>>715051424
>into almost anything you want
did they fix color bleeding in images yet?

>>715051553
what?

>>715041036
>which are reviled on certain areas of 4chan
OCniggers have always been uppity tards that samefag themselves to jerk off their shitty mspaint """art""" and I'm glad they all fled this site in exchange for twitter for a safespace when the average anon was given the tools to make OC without 500 layers of gatekeeping and costs.

>>715040857 (OP)
Because we hate humans and humanity

>>715051553
kek no
2 gorrilion uses on model with huge ass color bleeding

>>715040857 (OP)
For many it's just greed, or to "piss off artist" whatever that mean
it's all stupid, all the games you loved were made without it, what would having something that does lesser art does anything? I can only see an use for it for temporary elements but that's not in the final product.

>>715051992
it doesn't do lesser art and to say you can never love future games using it is just retarded, why would you assume that?

>>715052057
It does do lesser art, it is unable to do anything of it's own, and even a "good" art like this is till inferior to any decent form of art in the past, not only this, but it's a copyright clusterfuck unless you do your own libraries which no one is doing
which is why it only has uses as references or temporary elements, enough to be used before anything final is done, but it should be replaced as it's synonymous of laziness in a final product.
Something done by actual people will always be superior.

>>715052172
>not only this, but it's a copyright clusterfuck
Another ignorant troglodyte luddite, waste of time trying to reason with you.

>>715051814

>>715052257
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO LET ME CHANGE YOUR MIND
NTA but fuck off faggot, it's a waste of time trying to discuss anything with you neurotic techno junkies

>>715040857 (OP)
>why do people support AI art in games?

what people? game consumers dont
aislop enthusiasts here only care about endless coomer gens

>>715052383
And also shareholders/CEOs and extremely optimistic people who do not realize the wrong it ultimately can create

>>715049545
This isn't the gotcha you think it is. The ideal is that the menial things would no longer be needed so people could pursue other things and have more free time to pursue what they actually want to spend their time on instead of chores. That others go out of business is not the priority and I doubt you will find many people who enjoy those jobs for what they are and merely require them in order to be paid. That you fail to see the difference says a lot about you and the need to fabricate a strawman.

AI is based and I love my robo-wife.

>>715040857 (OP)
Most artists are scumbags and don't deserve a living wage. I know it's harsh but anyone with a brain would know that the world would be a better place without them.

>>715052536
Notice how you are only doing all this because you are jealous that other artist can do things you can't

>>715052470
they support anything cost-cutting and profit making like sacking 10000 americans and hiring 10000 cheap jeets instead, they dont really care if its ai or borderline slave labour

>>715052381
>gets caught blatantly lying and spewing illogical nonsense
>"NO YOU MUST TREAT HIM LIKE HE'S HUMAN"

>>715040857 (OP)
honestly i think AI is fine as long as it's only used for shit like grass textures or for making a 3d model of a rock, you know, like basic environment that you won't really give a fuck about 3 minutes into the game

On the other side, any of the shit you actually interact with should under no circumstances be AI

>>715041036
I can only get off to porn created by my own two hands

>>715052561
I love how you're so stupid you don't understand the point.

>>715040857 (OP)
Because I think that mentally ill self hating white western leftists are lowest life forms in the universe and they deserve to get replaced.

>>715040857 (OP)
Anti AI is just another form of cancel culture. It's something losers do to get power over others so they can police them, so they can feel morally superior. L O S E R S

>>715052536
in reality: coders are losing jobs and opportunities at a faster rate than artists. 'learn to code' already became a mockery

>>715052689
>On the other side, any of the shit you actually interact with should under no circumstances be AI
zero logic here
if it can make a rock it can make a main character

>>715052758
This is only because they actually had jobs, unlike artists.

>>715052705

>>715040857 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APo2p4-WXsc

Immigrants = AI
Retarded Artists = Retarded Redneck losers
Rooster = 4chan

Anyone that can't see the parallels is low IQ.

AI is the ultimate litmus test on the supposed beliefs of artists. For decades I've been hearing that artists do it for the love of the hobby, that they create art out of passion. If you hold these positions, AI existing shouldn't bother. The same way someone who crochets by hand shouldn't be bothered by the clothing industry. And yet...

From reading the thread it seem a lot of people want to do this to "own the left" or whatever this mean. but huh, what don't you just make regular art as a right winger if that's the case? I'm sure it's possible for one to do this and make their own games. NOTHING is stopping you. Hell I read there's even movie publishers focusing on that now so video game publishers probably would be possible too.
Aren't a lot of right wingers traditionalist? Yet they embrace something that goes against this, they do not embrace the ways of the old. It's strange.

>>715052851
its because art has human value, people want to see human creation, not machine generation, so artist will still have jobs, still get contracts and sell their art

code doesn't have it, code is pure function, it simply needs to work - so no one cares if its machine-generated

>>715043674
This. I would eat literal shit if it meant that twitter losers had to eat it too. Fuck'em forever.

>>715052949
Leftists are subhumans self hating golems and are fine with being replaced by pajeets and negroes so why not with AI,its a lot better option.

>>715052905
Most people turn out to be hypocritical liars, what a fucking surprise.

>>715053012
tbf it does suck a lot if you need to modify things so I would not recommend this either

>>715053012
You are delusional and live under a rock. No one cares how things are made and countless artists have lost work because of AI.

AI discourse is just so insufferable
Anyway, I've made some pretty decent coomshit off what I found on CivitAI, even though they're about to go down the shitter, looks like

>>715053028
Art is not something left to one political wing or a skin color, this is utterly stupid to think this, it's stupid.
There's plenty of Japanese artist, some who are progressive, some who are conservative, who also dislike this

>>715053028
Because AI won't get rid of the right which they hate more than themselves. The right is the only thing that keeps the left from collectively committing suicide.

>>715040857 (OP)
Because people I don't like are against it, so I will spite them even if it makes my life worse for it.

>>715052949
many people here are just bitter losers wanna-be mass shooters who want to see the world burn, but they have no balls to do anything

>>715053119
What happened?

>>715046878
Majority of the AI bros don't even know coding themselves. They just act like trial and error of typing in prompt is a skill and build their platform over the codes the actual nerds are cooking up

>>715052905
>artists do it for the love of the hobby, that they create art out of passion. If you hold these positions, AI existing shouldn't bother
Retard, people need to eat. Of course the people who are being paid for doing something they're passionate about would care if they stopped being paid for it. Removing the potential for human beings to be paid for their creative pursuits will irreparably damage human creative pursuit, turning it into a minor hobby for the wealthy

>>715053086
Maybe they should learn to cook, sacks of shit had no problem telling blue collar workers that they were obsolete and telling them to learn to code.

>>715052949
Most people who hate leftists within this context are blue collar/working class who have been told repeatedly for the last two decades that they're retarded rednecks who should "learn to code" because you're going to lose your job to machines. These same leftists welcome endless mass migration by the way, which was already displacing working class jobs tenfold for natives.

AI doing the same to leftists, and at a significantly faster pace, feels like divine retribution.

>>715051769
>the average anon was given the tools to make OC without 500 layers of gatekeeping and costs.
And what does anon do with these tools? Generate poo-in-a-loo's explosive diarrhea for a week, then go back to throwing together wojaks in MS Paint.

>>715040857 (OP)
Accelerationism is the answer
full speed ahead

>>715053224
>this lie again

>>715053208
>Retard, people need to eat.
So get a different job. That's what I've been told all my life as a truck driver.

>>715053239
Sound just like being a spiteful coward to me.

>>715053167
They got dropped by their payment processor because they allowed porn so they implemented a built in filter to appease them which severely limits the usage
they got a crypto option now so maybe they'll reverse it but I doubt it
any online service is inevitably going to go that way so it's not like I was surprised but it's a shame, was a pretty good site
still good for loras and shit thoughbeit

>>715053208
They've been crying about seizing the means of production for years. Now that their means got seized they're salty about it. What goes around comes around.

>>715051769
>crying about gatekeeping
Proof if any was needed that AI shills are all faggots that got lost here on the way from r/defendingaiart. Go the fuck back

>>715053276
What's the lie?

>>715043448
the issue isn't AI specifically (at least to me)
it's the absolute cumbrains who generate 100 pics with the same fucking promp and dump it all at one go

>>715053306
>The people who wished the worst upon you are suffering from precisely what they wished upon you, that makes you spiteful and cowardly!
Spiteful, yes. Cowardly? I was never the one passively wishing economic ruin on strangers because I thought they were beneath me.

>artists, musicians, writers, coders lose jobs
>Ranjit gets money by posting 500 AIslop images on his Patreon every day
>Patel doesn't know CS fundamentals but is a "senior engineer" where Claude does all the work for him and completes his tasks at a beyond glacial pace but its okay because his boss Shekelstein can squeeze out a few more thousands in the profit margins this quarter
the trajectory we are heading is pretty horrifying but also hilarious at the same time

>>715053263
All you need to do is go to one of the dall-e threads to see the "boundless creativity" at work.

>>715053348
He isn't crying about gatekeeping he's simply saying you fags did gatekeep(as in attempted to, it never works).

>>715053306
If it's good to be a spiteful coward when you're on the left then it's a virtue. Fuck you.

>>715053121
>They're gatekeeping "writing"
>People who are completely illiterate should be allowed to "write" too!
>When I ask the plagiarism machine to make me a story by patchworking together patterns from a million other human's existing works this is just as legitimate as writing my own novel

>>715053379
Its more of "batch generating 100 images with most basic prompt, no loras, no inpainting, no tuning, no controlpoints"

>>715053317
That was in May and it seems fine so far.

>>715052949
>Aren't a lot of right wingers traditionalist?
Traditionalists are religious nutjobs who let world wars happen and would be killing and raping everything in sight if they weren't threatened by the idea of divine punishment.

>>715045734
Well it's been the leftist's dream to rid humans of hard physical body destroying labour to make free time for pursuing art and intellectual work.
Rightoids seem to think the opposite should happen and everybody should be a factory slave or die in a mine, while a handful of indians generate entertainment for them.

>>715053375
Artists literally never told anyone to learn to code. If you actually looked beyond what you were told to believe you'd see it was all journos and tech ceos that disparaged them, and even then after a time the articles were about how yes, actually these guys did learn to code after all.

>>715053418
>Ranjit gets money by posting 500 AIslop images on his Patreon every day
who will donate to him if everyone will lose their job?

>>715053332
wat?
Did that make sense in your head? What kind of drivel have you been reading

>>715053527
>soibaby afraid of using his body

Poos are literally turning the internet into the Ganges with the amount of AI garbage flooding it daily.

>>715053563
not his problem
no seriously that is literally what every CEO is thinking when they lay off people to replace them with LLMs
it's not my problem, someone else will solve this, meanwhile I need to deepthroat investor cocks so I can buy my 5th yacht (I am so poor...)

>>715053430
>>714971547
>90% of content is goonslop from people who are too afraid to click a red board
>90% of the remaining 10% is edgy "beksinski victorian" slop
grim

>>715040857 (OP)
>Don't you guys hate big corporations?
Yes but I hate artists slightly more.

>>715053621
You will consume the slop

>If you don't filter out ai-slop from ai training data, the model degenerates and gets worse
Tells me everything I need to know about the so called quality of ai-slop.

>>715053698
AI really is the cow dung of the internet.

>>715053531
>it wasn't the people employed in left wing media
>it was actually the people employed in left wing media
Ok? Next you're going to tell me that Mark Hamill doesn't hate right wingers, but only Trump sycophants.

look at this and tell me AI isn't a cancer

>>715053701
>AI gets worse when its trained on the training wheel content it fucked up
Woah, almost like how if a child learned to grunt and groan like a caveman, it wouldn't be able to speak properly... crazy... this really says a lot about society

>>715053515
Sure, for now, but they're gonna be getting less money than they have been and it's not like the site is getting less expensive to run. Seems likely to me that they're going to restrict usage somehow to get more money out of the userbase to keep the site running, which gets you into a vicious cycle and you're on your way

>>715053430
>Ai can draw in many difference styles
>99.9% of all coomer ai art uses the same style and looks identical
Almost as if these people don't have any fucking idea what they are doing.

>>715053778
based

>>715053784
>>715053701
If you train an AI on something it will make more of that thing, with better and worse outputs since it's got a random factor. It doesn't matter if it's "real" or "fake" content. It just notices the patterns and builds a brain around them.

>>715053778
Oh no not the hallowed grounds of r34, what a tragic loss that it be befouled by shitty, low quality work made for the world's stupidest coomers

>>715053784
So if ai slop is just training wheels and child like. Why replace anything with it? Would you also replace an artist with a 4 year old?

>>715053762
If you can't see the difference from what you accused that's on you. Artists are not wealthy or a connected profession, the amount of total wash outs is probably higher than all other industries. They were not telling truckers learn to code, there's a reason why starving artists is a saying/thing.

>>715053895
>Would you also replace an artist with a 4 year old?
/v/ loves children

>>715053895
>Would you also replace an artist with a 4 year old?
Don't give corpo shills ideas, anon.

>>715053579
Karl Marx told the workers to seize the means of production (factory) from the factory owners.

Today we're witnessing the people seizing the means of production (artistic skill) from the artists. It's immoral to let artists to have full ownership of cultural output.

>>715053895
Ideally yes you would inevitably replace the artist with the 4-year-old if said child was going to be an artist, that's the entire purpose of children.

>>715043763
You are legimately fucking re m8. There isn't some sort of monolithic art community that holds some fixed ideological position.

>Thread is filled with actual leftists trying to claim their side didn't push hate towards blue collar workers rightfully scared of being replaced
For fuck sake, South Park literally had a bunch of rednecks crying that everything was taking their jobs. This was a direct mockery based on general sentiment at the time. Media has constantly portrayed the working class as stupid and uneducated, this leans directly into the stereotype that right-wing voters are stupid, completely ignoring why blue collar workers would vote right for job security over all other problems.

>>715053951
Artists are privileged as all hell. If you get paid to sit and doodle in a office you're better off than at least 80% of America.

Fuck off and get a real job. I know you wont because you don't actually want to contribute to society.

>>715053986
Yes there is. If you draw anything without a membership card, they break down your door and gun you down. Pen and paper is a heavily monitored commodity for only the top 0.1%.

>>715053701
>gets worse
It collapses lol

>>715053986
>another leftist that doesn't understand what exceptions are

Isn't it funny how they love to go on about how "evil cannot create", while that isn't even a real quote first of all. But of course, they also have to rely on a fantasy someone else made up, and to then be resentful when it's not tailor-made for their personal tastes when they don't have the imagination to create one of their own as can be attested by most creative works being from those they despise.

>>715053961
>>715054095
>It's immoral to let artists to have full ownership of cultural output.
The only thing that stopped you from picking up a camera, a pencil, an instrument or a computer and creating your own artistic output was your own lack of will to do that. Now that you have something that can generate things for you, you use it to generate low quality porn and memes, sometimes a grimdark picture that describes nothing if you're feeling particularly ambitious.
Draw your own conclusions.

>>715054060
But of course it's different when the left does it because they're special and educated.

>>715053086
>No one cares how things are made
delusional subhuman

here's one for the AI bros in the thread
let's look at the current generation
all of the kids use chatgpt for everything
there is not a single active neuron in their brains, it's all offloaded to the 'miracle machine'
so the questions are:
>what sort of jobs will these people work?
>how can they contribute to society?
>what would be their political beliefs?
mind you, these people are LESS computer literate than fucking boomers, have zero work ethic because everything is 5 second instant gratification, and zero opinions of their own as they are only capable of parroting "influencers" (corporate political commissars)

>>715054157
Laughably retarded autist.

>>715054125
The only thing that stopped you from owning a factory was a small investment and dealing with a little red tape.

>>715053895
>Why replace anything with it?
Cause its cheap.

>>715054178
>>what sort of jobs will these people work?
They won't, AI will do everything.
>>how can they contribute to society?
>>what would be their political beliefs?
Who cares?

The funny part is ai doesn't even do what they claim it does. Its use in gaming just makes the modeler's jobs harder because it produces nonsense that has to be cleaned up.

>>715054178
Political belief is easy. It will be whatever the ai tells them to believe. Too many people already blindly trusts ai answers, despite them being wrong over half the time on even the simplest of questions.

>>715054157
monsieur, the average 9-5 worker doesn't give a single fuck about the artists thoughts or drawing process all they care about is if the art makes them feel good or not.

>>715040857 (OP)
Contrarianism.
"it owns da libs" reactionary retardation
Genuine lack of appreciation for art (retardation)
Spiritual investing, wanting a corporation you parasocially love to make more money

>>715041036
>reviled on certain areas of 4chan for charging too much for commissions
When did this stupid meme become anyway? Porn artists, the bug-people that they are, charge too before too much. Most of them ask for a nickel and a stick of bubblegum for a full illustration. You probably think $100 is "too much," but would you waste 5 hours or more of your life drawing someone's disgusting fetish for less than that?
If you mean artists more generally charge too much, again, you're still being a colossal faggot about this. No one wants to do 50 illustrations for your indie game for 3 dollars each. Social media has enabled an entire generation of shitters who will work for almost nothing, and it's still not enough for the jews who actually want work for free.
Just admit you want slave labor. But don't complain about third worlders undercutting you and moving in to your country if you do.

>>715054125
HAHAHAHA!!
EAT SHIT FAGGOT!!

>>715040857 (OP)
I support it because it puts all those shitty commission artist troons in their place.

>>715054125
camera? pencil? instrument? computer? woah how about you learn to make things yourself instead of relying on other stuff to make things for you

>>715054265
It's also mostly used to make scams and shitty porn games that never gets finished.

>>715054178
>all of the kids use chatgpt for everything
>there is not a single active neuron in their brains, it's all offloaded to the 'miracle machine'
It's no different from Google search. Adults were literally saying the same thing about you back in 2002.

Actually, scratch that, ChatGPT as a knowledge tool, as long as you ask it to cite sources, is infinitely better than Google these days. It actually finds what the fuck you're looking for.

>>715054245
>They won't, AI will do everything.
What was it about AI that made you brown faggots come around to owning nothing and living in ze pods eating ze bugs when you were so against it before?

>>715041036
>which are reviled on certain areas of 4chan for charging too much for commissions and being woke
Only (You). Illustrators work for peanuts because the doors opened to SEA and their cheap art labor.

>>715046967
Shad is such a fucking brainlet, no wonder he glazes Ai slop

>>715054338
Yeah, people genuinely have no concept of it. They don't understand artists can spend easily 40+ hours on your one drawing while also destroying their eyes and hands.

>>715054338
work as a concept is objectively evil
if AI/robotics can do our work for us then that is an objective good and beneficial to society and humanity in general

>>715045371
>My immediate presumption is it was some indian somewhere who thought he could half-ass some shit there and somehow pivot it into a profitable venture (read: profit of like 2 bucks a month)
Etsy is full of this, any hobby where American women would buy stuff such as crochet patterns, stickers, tarot cards, coloring books, whatever you can sell on Etsy is 99% AI shit now and completely useless.

>>715054405
calm down

>>715053527
>Well it's been the leftist's dream to rid humans of hard physical body destroying labour
Most "hard, physical body destroying labour" that liberals cheer will put uneducated white trash hicks out of work and on the street has already been mechanised and is not hard, physical or body destroying.

>>715050951
I'm not gonna watch it so what happen?

>>715054219
Yeah, why are you still earning minwage?

>>715054245
>humanity uhh doesn't need to survive, I will totes become a digital lifeform
okay Peter Thiel
>>715054393
Google doesn't do everything for you. Stop being a disingenuous golem. You still need to piece together information from various sources. LLMs will always tell you what you want to hear, whether it is false or not.

>>715052561
Maybe throw yourself from your ivory tower rich retard? Not everyone has the privilege of having hoighty toighty special interests like playing the fucking violin or some shit.

>>715054436
>work as a concept is objectively evil
why? it is the only reason you can sit comfortably in your home and shitpost here, instead of getting your face chewed off by a bear.

>>715046005
>>Ironically AI is simultaneously good enough to take odd advertisement illustration jobs from animators but not good enough to create actual animation.
By "odd" you mean every single one of them, which is what pretty much everyone in any art field who doesn't have rich parents was doing for actual (meager) living.

>>715054563
>hoighty toighty special interests like playing the fucking violin or some shit.
Violins are fiddles. They're not some high status hobby, only you perceive it like this because of cultural context, fucking gypsies play violins.

>>715054563
nigga basic level of almost any hobby is dirt cheap

>>715041036
>>AI can do coomer shit better than the vast majority of actual artists and dump it onto the internet by the truckload
yeah but you run into a problem when the 1570th generated image of a futa blonde milf loli American soldier buckbreaking a femboy obama looks similar to the 20th one.
AI images are too samey and it can't make anything too complicated, add to that how you need to tardwrangle the AI into making what you want and at some point it becomes too much effort for what it is

>>715053527
>leftists commit their life to intellectual pursuits
>still retarded even after pursuing knowledge and wisdom their entire lives
it's impressive in a ironic way

>>715054528
>Google doesn't do everything for you. Stop being a disingenuous golem. You still need to piece together information from various sources.
Again, this used to be actually doable 15 years ago. Google killed itself with the ad shit that now litters the first page, and with the death of forums, it only got worse. And once more, adults were calling you a brain-addled retard for having this miracle machine that does everything, and how you were unable to use an encyclopaedia.

> LLMs will always tell you what you want to hear, whether it is false or not.
Again, ask ChatGPT to cite sources and it becomes far more accurate. Grok 4 is insanely accurate on queries, which is why it rapidly became the GROK SAAR WHAT IS THIS SAAR? meme query bot. Indians rely on it to understand anything going on.

>>715040857 (OP)
because it allows me as a single person to create a game without having 20 million dollars to hire 50 staff for 3 years

and I don't have to compromise on any design decisions, I can make it exactly as I envision

>>715053290
>So get a different job. That's what I've been told all my life as a truck driver.
When drones and self driving trucks replace you then you'll need a new job, but the purpose of automating work is to reduce the need for humans and the less humans society needs the lower the value of your time becomes. You are not on a different side of the anti-automation problem just because you drive a truck (You do not drive a truck, you are LARPing and possibly Indian)

Everybody who works instead of just owning capital is in the same boat. The "new jobs" created by automation have less total value than the jobs which are lost, because the purpose of automation is to reduce labour costs. You can not tell 10 million manufacturing workers to retrain as engineers and software developers because there are not 10 million roles available for engineers and software developers. The automation of industry removes 10 million jobs and only creates 10 thousand, at best, the automation of every other market does the same thing.

Amazon's destruction of the highstreet created new jobs in warehouses and driving trucks but it destroyed 10 times as many retail and local commerce jobs as it created. The automation of Amazon warehouses created new demand for software engineers and robot supervisors but destroyed 10 times as many shelf stacker jobs as it created. When creative pursuits are automated we will lose 10+ times as many creative people as we will gain in new AI wrangling roles. Do AIfags think this technological advancement will create new opportunities for them to make money by simply typing keywords into a glorified search engine? Then they should consider how many people the world needs to do that and how many Indians could be taught to do something so trivial for peanuts.

Every single step of automation reduces the total value of human labour, while our populations are still growing, this is a problem for every working man and you all have a common interest in solving it.

>>715040857 (OP)
People don't give a fuck about AI art in video games, only failed "artists" and furries give a fuck about it.

>>715054519
I'm not.

>>715054691
>ask ChatGPT to cite sources and it becomes far more accurate
ChatGPT was literally caught making up sources.

>>715054519
>personal attack
yep the classic admission of defeat

>>715054720
I'm a furry and I don't care. I think it's funny seeing my friends cry about it.

>>715052693
What happens if you obtain a gore fetish?

>>715054720
I care about playing high quality games, not AI slop cut corners.

>>715054776
Yeah, so ask it to post the sources. It's capable of doing that.

>>715054782
Glad we agree, I accept your concession.

This thread was good but it's gone completely to shit. You can't have conversations with luddites let alone leftist luddites.

>>715053961
>seizing the means of production (artistic skill)
Holy fucking retardcope, go buy a pencil

>>715052561
That may be the ideal, but the practical is that nobody cares what happens to the millions of people who depend on that labour existing in order to live and that the government would sooner render unto them the minimum of care in such dystopian and soul crushing conditions that it would not be a stretch that they're calculated to cause mass suicide. Idealists are useful idiots to a series of global governments that has proven in excess in recent years that it considers their own constituents to be enemies of the state.

>>715054883
>agreeing with a retarded leftist
sorry, I'm to smart for that

>bro bro BRO listen I will totally be the a noble in the technofeudalism trust me bro
>what...what do you mean I have to clean the sewer because the drones are too expensive to do it?
>no no no NO NO! THIS MUST HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE! AI WAS SUPPOSED TO LIBERATE ME NOOOOOOO

>>715054882
And it was caught linking to non-existant sources, and making up names, as well lmao.

>>715054883
>treats hypotheticals as personal attacks
hahahahahahahahaha

>>715054884
>luddite
Reddit

Lol antist are crying hard

>>715054882
>ask ai to post the sources
>now you'll need to check if those sources are actually real and ai-written themselves

>>715054894
The fuck I need that shit for?
I'm going to create the next thing using this.

>"at least...I owned...the libs...heh..."
croaked out the anon as he died homeless on the street

>>715052949
>what don't you just make regular art
because they're lazy, retarded and are only good for shitposting on 4chan to "own the libs", if /pol/tards put their money where their mouth is they'd start the 4th riech or whatever instead of shit posting on anime & videogame imageboards

>>715054660
>AI images are too samey
They can't keep details consistent at the same time tho.

>>715054719
Love it, your career is finally threatened by automation and now suddenly it's an "us" problem and not just a "me" problem. Yes, I am a trucker, it's not difficult to become one outside of the initial training and licensing fees, and I've been told for decades that self-driving vehicles are around the corner. That my entire industry is going the way of the dodo. That I'm a retard for not pivoting and re-educating myself in another field of work.

>Every single step of automation reduces the total value of human labour, while our populations are still growing, this is a problem for every working man and you all have a common interest in solving it.
I already am doing my part. I consistently vote in support of anybody I can actually trust to do their job to fight against mass migration and shit like H1Bs.

>>715054994
See? They can't even handle what they are. The simplest accusation that's pure truth triggers them. It's like telling a tranny he will never be a woman.

>>715047729
>Everyone on earth will be paying for AI in the future.
Dude I'm not even paying for Netflix lmfao.

>>715055030
>>715054953
Supposed Google experts unable to click and check sources after just saying they're expert Google wizards who had to click and check sources. You are rapidly becoming the boomers you mocked who were unable to use text-button phones, or could barely work a remote. Something of convenience is repackaged with a new coat of paint and you crumble.

>>715055129
Imagine if leftists actually felt compassion and empathy. It'd be a different world.

>>715055119
how are people still parroting this in 2025

>>715055129
>your career
>"us vs them"
Is this the talking point you were handed for your astroturding campaign? I'm not an artist retard, I'm a person who plays videogames and likes them to be artistically competent instead of constructed out of random AIslop. The imaginary person your employer has told you to argue with doesn't exist in this thread

>>715040857 (OP)
Because artists, even the lowly ones, have lost their uses when their entire industry's philosophy became "Oh it's subjective". That's why a lot of people are enjoying AI, even if all of its problems (even if they are getting solved)
That and it can make porn, even porn from specific artist, and now even styles due to "vibe" transfer. (Again, not as good as the actual artist, for example the artist Ninniku has better shading than the AI)

>>715054884

>>715040857 (OP)
I don't particularly love AI art but I do loathe anti-AI crowd because their fearmongering leads to hasty legislation which leads to regulatory capture by big corporations. Said big corporations want tight legislation because it ensures they get the whole pie and the actual illustrators (using AI or not) get crumbs. And the anti-AI crowd will cheer this on, they will literally sell their livelihoods for a moment of social media righteousness.

Incidentally the correct way to go about this would be to keep AI training completely free (and I mean completely) while holding the user responsible for any output that gets published. This means you cannot hide behind "well the AI did it, I didn't plagiarize!" which on turn means to safely use AI in a commercial product you STILL need a "safe" model or extreme care in AI use, which eliminates much of the perceived threats of AI.

It will kill Twitter commission art as an industry, which I don't give a rats ass about, anyone who thought that was ever a viable career is and remains an idiot. Art should be a calling and a passion and I don't see AI threatening that.

>>715040857 (OP)
I don't like it though.
>"you have to hop on it bro it's like, the future"
>"please ignore how much electricity it costs to run it, we don't have time to optimize it, give us money now"
>"please ignore the legality of it, if we actually have to pay people for using their data and commercializing it the bandwagon would slow down or even crash, give us money now"
>"please ignore the irregularities and hallucinations that prevent it from being used in any important system, we are working on it, give us money now"
>"please ignore the fatalities it literally caused by feeding into delusions because it is a yes-man, it's not our fault, give us money now"
>"please ignore the chatbots and sheer amounts of disinformation images that are used to push propaganda, it's not our fault, give us money now"
>"please ignore that we collect the data associated with online image generation, we gotta recoup costs, give us money now"
This shit ain't even gonna lead to AGI it's just a way for Silicon Valley to trick old money into giving their wealth to techbros and hoping that they can get away with making things overall shittier, annoying as fuck.

>>715055130
>>715055008
Reddit

>>715055119
Both can be true. Take a character that isn't a plain white human, a character with complex clothing or a furry with fancier fur patterns, and you'll see the magic unfold. Details in wrong places, missing details, miscoloration, but in poses similar to thousands of pics from the same model. And nobody really uses inpainting or img2img, because that's too much effort.

>>715054884
I wonder why people don't use art styles in their prompts.
The default AI art style is so odd.

>>715055412
>all the luddite can do is nitpick
You lost, thanks for playing

>>715055375
You'd take no offense with my initial post >>715054719 if you were working class. The only reason you'd respond to me with such a longwinded, fart sniffing post is you took offense to the idea of a blue collar worker dishing back the same obnoxious "advice" you've been dishing out for years. Nobody has been telling leftists to "learn to pick up boxes" for the past several years.

>>715054884
This looks abhorrent

>>715055461
>reddit used a word correctly that means ur wrong
uhhh

Fuck artists! The era of slop is upon us!

>>715055119
ehhh I don't really get those arguments, it's like they believe AI will not continue to improve in the future, I mean remember all those "AI can't draw hands!" posts?.
it's been 2 years and AI has vastly improved from the visual vomit of D-ALLE mini and is now fairly indistinguishable from human made art.

>>715055523
>le great and powerful ai can't draw the simpliest geometrical forms
>nitpick
ye

>>715055412
>proving me right

>>715041036

>>715055579
what

I've posted several AI images in this thread and nobody has clocked them.

>>715052536
So what job is the programmer going to do tomorrow then? Cleaning toilets?

>>715055721
he's just a little tired, that's all

>>715055756
same

>>715055756
Ludditesisters... We didn't (you) him... We lost...

>>715055829
GPT-powered cleaning robots will do that for us

>>715041036
Dude you don't even need to stick it to anyone. Pajeets are doing that for free while I can go outside and touch grass.

>>715040857 (OP)
AI art is trained on when art was good and pandered to the customer, modern "artists" are fags everyone hates. It's not hard.

>>715052689
>>honestly i think AI is fine as long as it's only used for shit like grass textures or for making a 3d model of a rock, you know, like basic environment that you won't really give a fuck about 3 minutes into the game
So the stuff that you can already get from a billion cheap/free texture/model libraries?

>>715040857 (OP)
>game devs keep talking about wanting socialism

ai art is socialism, minorities can now do your job

>>715053698
And 100% less people willing to pay for it.

>>715052758
Only webdev CRUDmonkeys suffered. Serious projects of scope larger than 7 files are unmaintainable via AI alone and this is unlikely to change for another couple years at least.

>>715055942
Not him, but in the same way that ChatGPT replaced Google, yes. It's a shortcut and that's the point.

>>715052889
>The underlying purpose of AI is to allow wealth to access skill while removing from the skilled the ability to access wealth.
Pretty much this. Which is why anyone who ever actually made an effort to make anything in any field hates the people stealing shit with it.

>>715055829
Clean up all the shit AI code when everything breaks.

>>715052949
>what don't you just make regular art as a right winger if that's the case?
Fuck off moron. You can't get anywhere in the art/writing/music/film/entertainment world if you're not a leftard.

the main argument of anti-AI proponents is basically
>IF I HAD TO WORK HARD THEN THE NEXT GENERATION HAS TO AS WELL!

>>715055852
People have responded to the posts. Nobody has called out the images for being AI, because what I've generated isn't obvious. I do this all the time, I simply inspect what I generate for flaws, change the filename to a Pixiv or 4chan filename, and surprise, nobody spergs out.

They're doing this with video games by the way.

>>715055962
People only want socialism when they can weaponize it on others. They squeal like pigs when they're on the receiving end.

>>715054719
>Every single step of automation reduces the total value of human labour, while our populations are still growing
This didn't stop progressives from reducing the total value of human labour by advocating for mass migration. Only now you recognise the problem since robots are on the brink of exacerbating it? Too late. I look forward to sharing a foxhole with you once the upper strata decide to cull everyone so they can live in unprecedented luxury even compared to now.

>>715056084
>>715052889
The people who made AI art models did it to empower everyone, and they released it for free.

>>715055101
Honestly it's kinda jarring that you can rally a crowd against any group you want if you just call them trannies, leftists, faggots etc. I wonder how the AIshills ITT are going to feel once their jobs are on the chopping block and they're labeled as "libs that got hard karma xd".

>>715056084
That's the first thing a sane person does when they get wealth. They make sure nobody else has it. Even socialists do that because they know that other people pose a threat to their system.

>>715056234
>and they released it for free.
What are the examples of this? I can only think of Stable Diffusion that's in regular use, everything else is paywalled, closed off solutions that milk you per use.

>>715056396
that's something evil psychopaths do, not sane people

>>715053208
>Retard, people need to eat.
Ok? Get a real job then? Why didn't you just buy crypto? Are your family not leaving you any inheritance and properties?

>/v/ shits on AI and wants it gone
>/v/ shits on games like Redfall for having bad AI.
>/v/ refuses to play PvP because they hate humans and prefer to play against the AI.

Well which is it?

>>715040857 (OP)
But I never sympathized with the rich. If the people that opposed the rich were good people I'd join them.

You WILL cut tie with your fellow rightoids the moment they started bitching AI and you WILL not ask a question on it

>>715056474
Most people are evil psychopaths.

>>715056625
subhuman post

>>715055376
>have lost their uses when their entire industry's philosophy became "Oh it's subjective"
Yea I've seen that Youtube video as well, except you're just defining Artists as the people who espouse this gatekeeping philosophy because that circular definition is necessary for your argument to work. Nobody ever pretended "It's subjective" when comparing Elden Ring environments to Call of Duty environments, because it's not subjective and in the videogame space the people producing good art regularly WERE being rewarded for doing a better job than the competition. Pretending that art is an ethereal subjective medium that can't be understood or evaluated by the public was merely a defence mechanism for talentless "modern art" fags and classical art "critics" both of which are entirely irrelevant and have no influence in the market

The term Artist is a far broader category than just the hacks writing masturbation about how impenetrable their alleged talent is. I can guarantee you that the concept artists for high quality videogames don't believe that their work is subjectively comparable to a guy who shits on a wall or puts a cow in formaldehyde

>>715056570
>/v/ refuses to play PvP because they hate humans and prefer to play against the AI.
/v/ shits pn PvP because PvP is usually completely unbalanced shitfest

>>715056570
I want there to be an epic battle between artists and Elon Musk where no one wins.

>>715046967
>>715047436
>>715048107
>>715053121
The reality is, is that doing anything requires skills and AI doesn't.

That you, as an ai prompter aren't actually doing anything and that anything you've 'created' won't be credited to you, but instead the AI that you used.

This is also true in how much brain power is being used , that engaging in actually figuring out how to create things stimulates different areas of your brain and keeps it active. Your plasticity increases, you make connections that you never would've thought of before and you create something that you can confidently say is your own, even if it's derivative, even if it's stupid, even if it's simple, you made it.

as someone that's creates art you've become smarter and as someone that's using prompts to create art you've become dumber, this is objective, this is science. Everyone knows you aren't supplementing in anyway by thinking up new prompts but likely making yourself retarded because your brain is just relying on a tool to make quick easy connections without thinking about how anything is actually made.


IN THEORY, you could creatively use AI and prompts, refining styles and creating new things but in practice this isn't what happens and absolutely isn't what AI is producing. In actuality you're just another idiot producing the same uninspired slop everyone else is, except your generated judy hopps has a slightly bigger ass or whatever. Who cares.

>>715055541
>PLEASE become this strawman because I don't know how to reply to you if you're not made of straw

>>715056795
Doesn't stop me from slapping my name on the end result. Deal with it.

I like artists. They make the games I like.

>>715056232
>Only now you recognise
Where did I ever say I was in favour of immigration retard, who are you arguing with?

>>715051769
>500 layers of gatekeeping and costs.

>>715056701
CoD environments mog Elden Ring.

I don't mind AI. What I do mind is people thinking that I want to see their shitty AI gens.
I have not, nor will I ever want to see what you made with AI. Keep it to yourself.

>>715056698
It was a low effort shitpost out of blue. Don't question about it
>>715056867
Regardless whether they're libtards or rightoids?

Imagine all the games I'm going to miss out on because artists will be gone, and all that is left is all slop. Oh nooooooo!

>>715056806
If you weren't this apparent strawman, you wouldn't have responded to me seething, that I was lying about being a trucker, and actually I should really REALLY care about being replaced ackchually because bots devalue labor.

Now post your stance on immigration.

>>715056928
I don't care and don't run an opinion checklist on creatives whose work I like because I'm not an obsessed schizo.

>>715056903
>implying any of ainigger generate shit in their machine

>>715056701
I actually don't think it's because they are "gatekeeping", if anything, it might have been because they have neglected to gatekept, they didn't tell the modern contemporary artists to fuck off. It really doesn't matter what concept artists thinks if he's not going to shame the shit museum artist out in public. But they didn't, they just let that fester, they might have played lip service in opposition, but they let the subjective philosophy take hold. And that made a lot of people not care for the art, to only see it as a product.

>>715053208
>irreparably damage human creative pursuit, turning it into a minor hobby for the wealthy
Why would anyone who's not "wealthy" (this just means having a basic job lmfao unemployed idiot) engage in a creative pursuit, when you need to be cultured and have good taste to do it in the first place? You really want dumbass hicks who never read a book in their lives to write books? Or who never heard Mozart to make your music? What are you even saying?

>>715056872
>I was always on your side
it's odd how online discussions are always like this.

>>715057015
Yes, there'd be more people like Stonetoss if that was the case.

>>715057096
Nobody needs that.

>>715057015
>Why would anyone who's not "wealthy" engage in a creative pursuit
Because they enjoy it and they can be paid for it
Next retard please

>>715056993
It's good enough for what I'm doing.

>>715056993
If they'd want to make "OC" they'd have to, otherwise they are just reposting other people's "OC" still.

I like that a future indie devs with a good sense of game design now won’t need to grind art skills for years and years.
When artists decide to make a game they focus too much on art and the games just fall flat.

>>715057121
You don't speak for me you subhuman piece of garbage.

>>715057039
>I invented a make believe person to argue against because I couldn't address the actual post
it's odd how you keep doing this and believing it to be a feature of online discussions

We gave you trillions of dollars.
We gave you unrestricted access to all copyrighted works to train your models in.
We made PC gaming unaffordable to dedicate 90% of silicon production to your training cards.
We gave you unprecedented political support, Americans literally banning all legislation regulating AI for a decade.

Where are all the good AI games? Groundbreaking AI movies? Images that aren't just memes and porn?

>>715040857 (OP)
AI art allows hundreds of good game ideas to become reality. Art has been a major stumbling block for many great games due to cost and quality in the past.

>>715057247
There's nothing to argue about. Nobody wants you on their side because you're an unreliable sack of shit.

>>715057317
give it 5 years anon
trust the plan

>>715057186
Future games will be insane.

>>715057317
Did you really idea guys would be able to make anything? AI WEG are literally in the same 0.0.000.1 dev hell as everything else.

>>715056174
>Nobody has called out the images for being AI, because what I've generated isn't obvious.
It's because it's so obvious it doesn't bear calling out you moron.

>>715040857 (OP)
because NOBODY CARES brother
when you say "support" you don't actually mean support, you mean indifference
ai is good because eventually i'll be able to get my own games made for me, with exactly what i want in them, just by telling the model what i want - for free
it is currently not that, but why do you expect me to fight for some 500 million retards jobs? are they fighting for mine?
it's the same shit voice actors screech about, but the reality is i don't care if you're doing the voice i only care that i get the voice i want. whether it comes from your mouth or from an arranged audio wave makes no difference to anyone but you
So yes, ceos, suits and corporations are greedy and incompetent. They will use this shit, poorly, and still keep raising their prices. But I don't buy games from them in the first place, I play old games, I buy cheap games, I buy games from people who are competent and not chasing trends, so that isn't a good argument to win me over in the first place. "these guys are gonna be shittier" they're already peak shitty, doesn't change much

Didn't you fags bitch about how Nintendo is so evil? AI is literally the greatest thing companies and billionaires can ever get to make slaves like you suffer even more and to completely destroy already dying society. I guess you guys care more about Nintendo suing some nutjobs to protect thier copyright than Bill Gates ripping off the majority of the world's population.

>>715057446
>eventually i'll be able to get my own games made for me, with exactly what i want in them, just by telling the model what i want - for free
If you believe this I have a bridge to sell you

>>715056903
Curious on how these pictures never point out the fact that there's an insane time investment requirement for the top.

>>715051769
The sourest grapes for the stupidest nigger
Thanks for chasing the fun away

>>715057491
Time invested in yourself and your skills.

>>715057491
Because AIfags claim that they can't draw because of gatekeeping and would never admit that it's because they are lazy.

>>715040857 (OP)
Ai has the potential to cut dev team sizes back to what they were in the 6th/7th console gen by removing a lot of the tedious work and acting as support staff for developers, for example it can remove a lot of the bureaucracy of development so that you don't have to have a human go through the games file structure to make sure that all files are named correctly, correctly referenced by the game, correctly formatted etc. As dev support it can be a fast second opinion for code, be used to check/debug code, be used to do menial code monkey work, this is AI's true strength for game development, taking a team of 1200 developers and cutting it back to 120

>>715056991
Well, fair enough
>>715057317
>Americans literally banning all legislation regulating AI for a decade
Jap artists can't even support Trump anymore because of that reason alone

>>715057334
>AI art allows hundreds of good game ideas to become reality.
Where are they?

>>715057317
The truth is that the field is stuck in a quagmire and nobody quite knows how to take the technology forward asides from throwing more compute power at it and hoping sapience just springs forth like mana from heaven. Because it's so lucrative, instead of admitting they're stuck, there's a financial incentive to make people think a breakthrough is around the corner and that it will pay off a hundred fold in just two weeks. It's a cardboard cutout and people invested in the industry are sweating buckets hoping no one notices until they can pop their chutes.

The entire economic system at large operates the same way.

>>715053951
>Artists are not wealthy or a connected profession
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH getting free money for doodling some random shit and living in a fucking new york loft isn't wealthy i'm sure ahahahah moron

I have autism and I love AI!

>>715056156
There's plenty of right wing movies, and indie studios exist too, if they wanted I'm pretty sure some wealthy right wingers could make a video game publishing studio
Creativity and creation is something everyone can do, no matter their believes or the life they had

If the food is good, why would I care if someone made it in the oven or in the microwave? y'all out here acting like housewives in the 50s.

>>715057618
I support Trump for hastening the demise of the gay and retarded American empire.

>>715057556
This is literally what boomers sound like when they tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

>>715057653
There are about 80 unique pictures in there and the rest are variations of thereof that look kinda good, so you couldn't just bring yourself to delete them.

>>715057556
When people talk about gatekeeping they aren't talking about being gatekept. This is an extreme misconception you have, a very blatant strawman argument.

>>715057741
>If the food is good
It isn't. AI produced assets are of lower quality by all metrics. Only exception is very specific types of boilerplate boring text in backgrounds that would otherwise be lorem ipsum.

>>715057749
A world without The US, Europe and Russia would be a good world.

>>715057428
lol, you couldn't be more wrong.

>>715054421
Dude I already *am* SEA cheap art labor. I can't do shit anymore due to AI.

>>715057651
There are almost no actual artists in the West so you can stop pretending that anybody is talking about this New York corpo-art consultant that you're imagining in your head

>>715052949
Most "right wingers", especially here are just liberals who want to be racist sometimes.

>>715057491
If you have enough free time to type in a text box, comb through the results and fix shit up yourself then you have enough free time to doodle every now and then

>>715057412
>8'1 eightut

>>715057741
>why should I care if every store and restaurant is filled with gruel?

>>715054643
Ok and then when you stop being a children you're meant to upgrade or you get thrown out. What does that even mean. You have a piano? I don't.

>>715057556
i'm not an AIfag, but i'll be the first to admit that the sole reason i'm not an artfag is because i'm a talentless hack that makes dobson look like picasso

>>715042627
Elon Musk is a jewish supremacist so what you're talking about has zero rekation to grok speaking out against judaism

>>715054719
>You can not tell 10 million manufacturing workers to retrain as engineers and software developers because there are not 10 million roles available for engineers and software developers.
Ok? They can just clean toilets if they're too stupid to contribute to society?

>>715057823
>When people talk about gatekeeping they aren't talking about being gatekept.
Nigger what?
As expected from a retard who "drew" the background character with two thumbs.

>>715057787
How do you know it's not all just shit?

We've dealt with years of games tainted by lack of talent and/or DEI, what difference does it make if it's by an ai or human? I've no love for my fellow man just because they're human, you gotta earn my love.

>>715057926
>You have a piano? I don't.

>>715057852
>I went to the park dressed as a woman and nobody stopped me and said "YOU'RE NOT A WOMAN" because they were too busy keeping away from me therefore I pass as a woman.

>>715058096
The AAA industry is not the entire vidya industry, neither is it the one being affected by its market being flooded with shit.

>>715057525
>chasing the fun away
This implies that there was much "fun" even before AI, it was revitalized with AI and even the splurge of "handdrawn" art came thanks to AI related themes such as Claude.
>>715057543
>>715057556
>>715057895
I simply cannot understand the mentality of not using a tool that has been given to you because you can intentionally cripple yourself by doing it "the old fashioned way".
Most "artists" do not draw on paper and scan it, they embraced technology to skip annoying steps and give them more power over the images.
Why is this one getting so much flak for it?

>>715058161
>Why is this one getting so much flak for it?
Because you're no longer drawing. You're rolling an RNG machine with words.

>>715057784
Maybe boomers are right if any time investment whatsoever makes something impossible for you.

>>715058146
AI could never create something this good.

>>715058160
We'll always have some indie team occasionally making a good game with or without ai in the industry, nothing will change.

>>715058161
What >>715058193 said.
I like drawing shit myself, with AI you're basically handing all the work over to the machine, the prompt is just grocery list of shit you want.

>>715052650
>t. doesn't know what NTA means
lots of india bros pretending to be retarded tonight

>>715052949
>"Right wing" / "Left wing"
Why are you talking about wings? This is an AI thread on a videogames board

>>715058161
No one has heard of fucking Claude you retard. Even at it's peak it got less than 2k views. Any impact it had on the world of art is negligible.

>>715058206
I can prompt and draw at the same time. Can you?

>>715058336
Look at many anons in this thread, they directly says they are doing it for strange political reasons

>>715058359
pyw

>>715058335
You are an absolutely illiterate retard.

>>715053587
Nobody in your family worked hard if you've never seen a man in his 40s-50s falling apart due to accumulated joint and spine injuries and daily wear.

>>715058259
Minus the fact AI flood the market with garbage faster than it is humanely possible. Have fun looking for that one good game when you have to waddle through 100 billion scams and shit generated in 5 minutes.
Low quality shit is already a plague on the market to find good games, it's not gonna get any better with AI.

>>715055704

>>715057784
Boomers might not be aware of how fucked up things are today compared to 50's when a factory worker had his own house by 25, but they were still right. You're not going to make it if you don't put in the effort.

>>715058336
Because right wingers don't work as artists since the industry a nepo shithole, so it naturally becomes a political issue.

>>715058434
>if you didn't have genetic failures you don't work hard

>>715057489
If you don't believe that's inevitable, albeit relatively far away at present, you're pretty retarded buddy, but that's your issue I suppose
I have an entire library of games, I can give any local model the ability to access all of them directly - even if I couldn't accessing longplays would be enough - and can tell it what I like about them. And that's pretending it will have no other training data other than what I own, which of course it will

>>715055294
his pinki on the hand grabbing the basket is too long anon, i agree that AI has gotten better but it's still not hot mostly, worse with writing smut

>>715058470
California problem, the real world has no such issues

>>715055756
I'm guessing you're referring to this >>715053267
What do you expect? People to devolve into a sopping fury at the sight every AI image? There are tons of AI images itt, most are extremely obvious, some slightly less so, but that doesn't mean it isn't easy to tell. But why would someone go out of their way to call it out, when this website is full of AI images?

>>715055587
>black guy is not a femboy
wasted opportunity

>>715058601
He's a tranny who thinks he passes, let him have his delusions.

>>715058348
eat shit steamcharts brained nigger, the threads were cream of the crop

>>715057317
People still need to write software that makes use of the AI. Then industry software slowly implements more and more. It won’t be a big switch that happens all at once, just future projects requiring fewer and fewer people.
>art of just meme and porn
‘ugh always with the anime girls with big boobs’ This is 100% what artists and art consumers have turned “art” into within the context of social media

>>715058146
>Brings up trannies for no reason
>Chudjak
Back to sharty.

>>715058757
cope harder

>>715058757
>for no reason
Not true.

>>715058601
Nope, not me.

>>715058659
Twitch streaming is the same level as steamcharts retard.

>>715058436
I'm sure they'll add a filter for it when ai becomes big enough to warrant it's own category. If not, the usual methods for skipping bad games at a glance will still be sufficient.

I've yet to play a mainstream videogame made after 2017 and very few media made in the 21st century. All these developments make my decision to enjoy the lifetime's worth catalog of old shit to my heart's content and never look forward all the easier. May you pajeets continue to proudly choke on each other's excrement.

>>715058436
>it's not gonna get any better with AI.
it will get better because games will be better as a whole

>>715058830
I'm not going to go through the thread and (you) everyone. I assure you, your sloppa is identifiable, most anons just didn't think to say anything, because they didn't know you had signed them up for a game that they had never agreed to play.

>>715058348
>>715058659
fucking loved the claude threads, I didn't even look at the twitch streams but the threads themselves were great
/vp/ is unironically carrying this board

>>715058436
I'm just going to play old games. Nobody's made a good game since 2016.

>>715058492
Tell me more about genetic failures, virgin, shitposting on an image board about people who had families.

>>715059106
Sure, believe what you want. The entire thread is nitpicking images for being AI slop.

>>715059154
>>715059027
ok grampa

>>715057543
I'd rather hit the gym.

>>715051769
>when the average anon was given the tools to make OC
99% of OC that defined internet culture for decades was done in MS Paint with a mouse

>>715059260
>he actually enjoys modern slop
disgusting cretin

>>715059236
No one has called out a single image for being AI slop in and of itself, nigger retard. There are anons pointing out flaws in images/videos that have pretensions of being better than slop, but no one is calling out random AI images on neutral posts. I defy you to point out someone who has done this. It's all white noise at this point.

>>715059353
Is this real...

>>715059346
It's really telling with how much diarrhea jeets have spewed on the internet over the last 4 years, not a single one of the hundreds of millions of images have the staying power of a shitty MS paint comic from 10-15 years ago

>>715054485
How would you know that? All hard work's been outsourced to asia

>>715044250
You wouldn't need to feed it any books, even the most primitive ai figured those things out by basic statistical analysis and had to be immediately shut down.

>>715041036
Yes, jealous retards eat shit out of spite. What’s new. Sour grapes etc.

>>715059346
The tool they lacked was sincerity, and AI doesn't grant that either.

>>715055419
>>Incidentally the correct way to go about this would be to keep AI training completely free (and I mean completely) while holding the user responsible for any output that gets published.
So you want big corporations to be able to steal anything from anyone (because they can afford the fine or to prolong the lawsuit or generally get away with it), and everyone else not to be able to steal from them because they'd be sued into suicide?

>>715055505
What's the point of an "art style" lmfao?

>>715056063
>in the same way that ChatGPT replaced Google
What?

>>715059346
not to mention that most people left for twitter not because of some magical replacement, but because 4chan (and the internet in general) just got shittier

>>715059590
That's how Disney has always done it.

>>715059720
insane how people like you exist
go back under your rock

>>715059720
With a proper quest, ChatGPT can search and find sources and knowledge bases that would take you significantly longer by Googling. This is why Google as a company is heavily investing into AI to compete with the likes of CGPT, because basic traffic has dropped and continues to drop.

>>715057123
Except they can't be paid for it because it's useless so...?

>>715059950
*request

Man that 3 hours of sleep was not a good idea.

>>715059950
I think Google just wants you to stay on their browser and not click any links with that AI shit.

>>715059484
>>715059587
>>715059727
>I like shitty memes therefore AI art is bad
take a step back and look at yourselves

>>715060158
>take a step b-ACK
Kill yourself AI jeet

>>715055587
Wish the AI threads had more memes like this

>>715060158
>take a step back and look at yourselves
DAMN, I'M LOOKING GOOD

>>715060156
Well, it's a failing business model if that were the case. Google is in fact shitting their pants because the likes of CGPT and Grok 4 give the results you want faster. The latter is especially notable in its accuracy even with the "moral" neutering.

>>715046005
Remember watching one of those video game dev ted talks and an art directors or something, mentioned how they dont bother hiring people with traditional skills. Yes, they still had one or two creative dudes enhancing the details but the main ideas and concepts used to secure a project with studios/investors were all photobashing pictures from real life scenarios.

>>715060371
>Google is in fact shitting their pants
You have literally no knowledge of what's going on in AI world lol.

>>715046283
Give her low profile, side string, panties

Thank god, drawing is so uniquely horrendous compared to so many other things in terms of skill gained per hour spent studying.
Go learn what makes a story engaging, or character design, or composing a scene, or satisfying gameplay loops, instead of drawing a Loomis head over and over and over for 6 hours a day for 12 years trying to bruteforce your brain into ‘feeling the form’

>>715060532
It's not any harder than any other creative endeavor. Talentlets say this in every field. Personally I can't code, but drawing has always been "easy" for me.

>>715060715
Also
>character design
is literally an art skill
The reason you hate drawing is because you fell for the Loomis meme. You're not supposed to grind, idiot. Art is as much about creativity as it is technical execution.

>>715051814
create ai models of those v furry girls thank you

>>715060423
>Google hastily and rapidly investing in AI because Google site traffic continues to plummet after its continuous enshittifcation by a Pajeet CEO who put ad revenue above a search engine doing efficient searching
>They're lagging behind horribly against OpenAI, Musk and even shit like Claude to the point the Google summaries at the top of your search results are just regurgitated Reddit posts of varying quality
>This is somehow not reality all of a sudden
Speak for yourself about "no knowledge" of what's going on.

>>715060481
??

>>715049053
ah come on, i know that AI is here to stick around in some form of shape, but i hate this line of reasoning that tech bros deploy on every single fucking new toy they get to play with that "the internet was also thought to be a fad".
News flash: There were a lot of things thought to be a fad that actually were fads.
Just because a succesful thing had a phase of people denouncing it, doesn't mean that anything that gets denounced is actually a future success in the making

>>715060858
>Google hastily and rapidly investing in AI
>They're lagging behind horribly
Yep, you're retarded.

>>715059271
Why? Just get a forklift retard?

>>715061091
beep boop mother fucker

>>715060897
Do you know what low profile means?

>>715057865
In every movie artist is living in a huge loft in new york and painting some abstract huge canvases

>>715061226
I'm not sure what you mean by it

>>715053332
im about to come

>>715058139
Costs 10 times more in my third world country.

>>715060715
>>715060812
>Director/programmer tells artist co-developer (Me) about the character he wants in his game
>I create and animate them out of his scribbles and descriptions
>He's glad to have access someone who can draw and animate his ideas
>I'm glad to have someone who can program and make my art move and function
This process should be extremely obvious and appealing but I guess some people will never get to experience it.

>>715058436
>Minus the fact AI flood the market with garbage faster than it is humanely possible. Have fun looking for that one good game when you have to waddle through 100 billion scams and shit generated in 5 minutes.
Or you could just ask Grok which the good games are?

>>715048107
AI zoomies really think they made anything? lmao
typing in some text so that another can craft it for you. It's like commisioning art to an artist and then say you made this because you told the specifics.
AI just copies what it has seen and then reconstructs it, like a damn robot.
Vermin is what you are.
I already know your low IQ response, you creatively bankrupt zoomer. Go "goon" yourself to tranny/futa (same thing) porn so we can be rid of your stupidity

>>715061475
grok told me all games are shit and that i should get a job as a janitor instead

>>715061167
Yeah so what's the point of lifting anything?

>>715061558
absolutely seething at that solid logic

>>715060996
If you think anything Google has made is even comparable to Claude, let alone CGPT or Grok 4, you're fucking delusional and probably an actual Google employee at this rate.

>>715061419
People think they can hack the creativity step, that's all. It doesn't work. AI shit reeks for miles, and I can tell when I'm looking at a cheaply made slop game every time I load up a digital storefront. I promise I can tell. You still need artists and creative people helming the ship.
Notice all the AI talk is about its fidelity, and not its problem solving ability, its creativity? It's because most people don't have a creative bone in their body and just want to see pretty pictures.

>>715052471
fixed your image for you bro

>>715046283
Make pussy hair and armpit hair on that exact image.