Were they really popular enough to get their own video game back in them days?
yeah but they knew too much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CrraAYyOsg
>>715122317 (OP)>is this franchise that got multiple Hollywood budget films popular enough to have a video game?
>>715122317 (OP)uh huh
they even had a cameo in a don't smoke cartoon movie, very impressionable on kids
>>715122640You know there was an earlier attempt on the WTC? In the 90s?
>>715123154This is one of the most important scenes in film history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn6jKGVxTbk
>>715122317 (OP)They were as big or bigger than Batman around 1989-1991. They lost popularity really fast after that but were still familiar enough to support whatever games came out past that point. The original arcade game was giga popular. I would argue it was even more popular at the time than Turtles in Time is perceived to have been now.
>>715123341I recently rewatched this the first time since it came out and it's amazing how well it's aged.
>>715123474Power rangers pretty much killed off the ninja turtles iirc.
>>715122317 (OP)TMNT was arguably the most famous non disney IP on the planet from about 1988 to 1992.
>>715123474>The original arcade gameYour childhood is irrelevant if you've never played the TMNT arcade in a sit down Pizza Hut restaurant. I can SMELL this picture.
>>715123729minorities ruined the entire concept of this establishment
>>715122317 (OP)>Were they really popular enough to get their own video game back in them days?GTFO of here you zoomer faggot, unfucking real...
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>>715123729this picture is missing a very important feature
>>715123851>minorities ruined the entire countryftfy
>>715123738wtf I must have blocked this from memory.
>>715123729for me it was the Simpsons arcade game and a family owned pizza shop. I know the shop is still there but im worried if i walk in the arcade corner will surely be gone or full of shit now
>>715123729>>715123887Such comfy times even with the traumatizing boomer parents. Imagine living through that time with actually good parents though.
>>715123729Best i can do now is boot up the games and order some pizza delivery
>>715123154give them a break, zoomers live in an era where a lot of things that was supposed to be "major franchises" completely flop in hollywood
>>715123474>>715123580Toy lines have about a 3-4 year window of peak time. That's about as long as it takes for 4 years worth of kids to "age out" of their fascination with it, leaving only the younger kids, and even younger kids are lost to new properties. But for those 4 years, there is no functional ceiling to how much cash you can milk out of it. TMNT is actually a rare case because it refuses to stay dead. TMNT keeps fucking coming back, not just with the nostalgia audiences either, it keeps generating new fans.
>>715124106>Simpsons arcade gameYeah that was another good one, not to mention this bad boy here. So many quarters lost.
I think it's interesting the turtles managed to stick around and eck out an existence after the initial Turtlemania fad era ended, most similar franchises don't get that privilege. Those four green niggas must have something about them.
>>715124301Yeah it's amazing. I've even seen autistic teen girls fangirling over it.
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>>715123729>Ninja Turtles literally killed this form of Pizza Hutt
Zoomers will never experience smoking and gambling in a child-friendly underground arcade skatepark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmpVDeFq1Aw
Whatever happened to that Last Ronin game? Is that still happening?
>>715122317 (OP)No. In fact, they never even existed.
>>715124106>local pizza shop near me that my family and I always loved>recently visited hometown>pizza shop is still there>decide fuck it and order takeout>drive back home and reheat my order>it's still as good as ever
>>715124359TMNT just has the sauce. Even Transformers, GI Joe, and He-Man had to make major revisions to their settings and characters over the years just to maintain relevancy. But other than swapping out the Aprils, TMNT's remained pretty much untouched.
>>715123917no not the entire country, just the parts you refuse to live in
TMNT is neat because theres a whole new iteration for every generation.
Itโll never been crazy popular ever again, but theyโre like Tom and Jerry, they wonโt stop making stuff for it.
>>715124359>>715124651The chemistry within the team is perfect and they cover multiple demographics
>Superheroes>Gross out>Martial arts>Extreme >The shy guy autistic kid who really likes animals
>>715124359It always felt like they never did enough with the Turtles
>>715124507Dominos was already super popular before that.
>>715124507>hide until the 'free delivery' timer is up >get free pizzaThis was a terrible business model in the first place, let's be honest here.
While I grew up with the original TMNT cartoon, my favorite iteration is the 2012 series. It was really good.
>>715122317 (OP)Yes, and they got a lot more than one game. Many of them are really fucking good too, surprisingly.
>>715124301The basic formula that keeps the Turtles and other similar properties popular is:
There are kid-friendly stories, and kids automatically think teenagers are cool.
Teenagers often like edgy obscure versions of things they liked as kids, and the Turtles started as a dark indie comic.
Adults will share kid friendly versions of stuff they like with their kids.
And the cycle repeats.
So any property that manages to stay popular long enough can pick up those subsequent waves. The Turtles have also existed in that space where they're popular and profitable but not too mainstream.
If something goes too mainstream like Star Wars then it gets too easy to make money with it, corporations notice that, take a shit and hope the audience will keep paying money.
>>715124720It might not reach the media craze, but other than a lull in the late 90's to about the relaunch in 2004, the ip's basically consistently made more money every year than year prior. They're on track for like 650-700 million this year, off the back of a 600 million 2023 fiscal year iirc
>this will sell our franchise
What the FUCK was wrong with boomers?
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>>715124651>TMNT's remained pretty much untouched.the funny thing is, the tmnt the most people are familiar with, are the "changed for mass appeal" version.
>>715124816The 1990 movie coincided with a geometric explosion in demand for delivery pizza, forcing Pizza Hutt to rapidly alter it's business model to compete. Which directly lead to the decline in quality of the food, and the dine in experience.
As a kid who loved the original cartoon in 1990, it amazed me when I recently learned it actually continued with new episodes through the 90s. I don't think I ever actually saw it on TV past like 1992.
>>715124720>neverI dunno man forever is a long time.
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>>715125037I feel like the Mirage versions started finally getting recognition about 10-15 years ago
>>715125108Yea, what the fuck I thought this ended in like 93-94, not 97
>>715125108it ran so long the internet came out by the time it was nearly over
BRING BACK ASKA YOU FUCKS
*takes a turtle shit in ur living room*
>>715123474TMNT 2 and TMNT 4 are both really solid beat-em-ups. TMNT 1 sucks and I think they had a fighter, but it was weak as hell. But yeah, they were MASSIVE in the late 80s and early 90s. There wasn't a cartoon channel unless your parents paid $20 a month for Disney Channel, so kids' shows were on network TV Saturday mornings, mainly ABC and Fox. Shows and franchises like TMNT and Transformers ended up being huge culturally because everyone was kind of pigeonholed into watching the same thing since cartoons were appointment viewing.
>>715123580That and surfer talk like Michaelangelo and Bart Simpson used became lame around '93 or '94.
>>715124106We had one too, and when you'd go on a Friday night you'd see 6-8 kids around the Simpsons machine tag-teaming their quarters just to beat it. It was more cooperation than competition which was pretty weird for an arcade. I gotta ask, Sortino's?
>>715122317 (OP)Bro. They had a Hollywood film franchise.
>715123851
>715123917
Take your bullshit somewhere please.
Death comes for us all, Oorku Saki...
https://youtu.be/5feWHmIypXs
>>715125391but something much worse comes for you... for when you die it will be... CHHK CHK AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--DOOSH.... without honor
>>715123580That, and the third TMNT live action movie sucked ass, and the cartoon was starting to run on fumes.
>>715125381>Stop talking about this TMNT character that originated from a video gameNah, I don't think I will.
>>715122317 (OP)what fucking genre do you call this music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0e69e_B_SE
>>715125743i've always wondered this too especially that distinct noise that characterized TMNT music at that time, Bowser's music in Mario 64 also has that noise
I grew up with the NES games and the toys, and occasionally watched the '87 cartoon, it was barely on by 95-96. I have more memories with the 2003 cartoon if anything else.
Is Viacom fucking up the franchise? I still don't feel right seeing the turtles as 'Nicktoons'.
>>715125809>that distinct noisehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91IC1lpGYds
>>715124281not to mention game budgets used to be a lot smaller. Almost every movie had a tie-in game up until a little over a decade ago
>>715125809It's like the music that plays in a little kids head the first time they see someone do a skateboard trick, or when they get ice cream that isn't vanilla
>>715125904>Is Viacom fucking up the franchise?Considering the Seth Rogan turtles are now the "face" of the franchise at the moment despite literally nobody wanting it. Yes.
>>715123729>hear a loud...XMEN!
>>715125357>I gotta ask, Sortino'snah it was a local shop named after the two owners. Decided to look up the place online and found this photo showing the Xmen machine I actually forget they had that also
>>715124315 This photo is a few years old though. Might have to make a trip out there to spend a few quarters sometime.
>>715123729I bought the Coming out of Their Shell Tour tape from Pizza Hut
>>715125943oh thank you, finally I have an answer
>>715125943damn that's cool, thanks anon
>>715123576>movie made during the era when movies were good is good
>>715125904Viacom has presided over the IDW comics going to complete shit with tranny Jennika, Rise of the Zesty Nigga Turtles, and Seth Rogenstein Turtles
>>715123729For me it was a Killer Instinct cabnit sitting right next to a Pole Position and a Big Buck Hunter
>>715122317 (OP)I don't think I ever saw the TiT arcade anywhere. I definitely saw the first arcade game everywhere.
>>715125743Some kind of jazz probably.
>>715125943that was a cool video thank you
>>715123341>>715123576The 2nd movie isn't as good as the first one but that's only cause the 1st movie was surprisingly great. I still wish we had gotten Rock steady and Bebop in the 90s movies
>>715126227Same. Turtles in Time was bigger on SNES for sure.
>>715126169I heard of the 'fifth' turtle, but is she now identifying as a man?
>>715122317 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojNiheVCUYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJAqxCg97oc
Splinter being a human turned into a rat > being a rat that turned humanoid
I'll accept a lot of silliness from TMNT, but I won't accept rats learning karate through imitation.
>The success of the cartoon and toys actually hurt the sales of the RPG because tabletop players didn't want to touch a dumb kid's franchise
>>715122317 (OP)You have no fucking idea, turtles (and Mario) were THE shit in the late 80's and early 90's.
>>715126536https://youtu.be/SzmLYHsAcZQ?si=bH-OU4-FHNvhGiUF
You want to see weird Turtle content and YouTube shit that isn't made anymore. Watch that shit
>>715126504It's better too. More levels, more bosses, expanded move set. One of the rare instances of a console port mogging the arcade version.
Yes, 100%, I was fucking obsessed with TMNT as a kid, still got a huge backpack full of old TMNT figs, hell the first movie my senpai ever rented cause we got a VCR was the first TMNT and Ernest goes to Jail.
>>715126636Didn't this game have homosexuality as a mental illness?
>>715126891They're just claustrophobic
>>715126536>Donnie became Danny>Raph became Riff and fucking growls
>>715122317 (OP)The TMNT IP has made more money than GTA and Warcraft.
>>715126980For me, it Danny not wearing the eye mask and Riff wearing it like a headband
>>715126528>>715126169Jennika is not a troon just a dyke (for a fat pig girl mutant) self insert who pushed out April as the woman in the turtles lives
>>715125904Yeah, nuTurtles are shit. 2012 was the last good era of TMNT. Still get good toys sometimes, the Super7 figures were pretty good and the new JoyToy stuff is cool. Not a NECA fan, personally, but there's a lot of that.
>>715125904Yea, the nu turtles are just black kids pretty much.
>>715126450The second movie suffered as parents groups threw fits over how dark the first movie got (when it really didn't get that dark and edgy at all) so that's why more of the second movie had daytime scenes, more jokes, 'friendlier' turtle costumes, and a more childish plot than the first movie.
Also Laird and Eastman hated Bebop and Rocksteady along with most of what the cartoon had (even though they contributed character designes/ideas to the show when it was being planned out) which is why we got Tokka and Rahzar instead.
>Shredder in the old cartoon
>The most incompetent and bumbling fuck ever
>Shredder in the games
>Absolute fucking terror
>>715125943I have always known it as the "Konami sound", because the music of TNMT in Time and Sunset Riders is deeply engraved in my brain. You can imagine my joy when I also heard it in Tenna's theme in Deltarune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3md8rJBDUkk
The Leonardo vs Raphael fight is the best thing about this very forgettable movie
>You were expecting maybe nyeeeaaah the Addams Family? Uh hhuh huh yeaaa
>>715125631Wrong 17 blank nemo
I had to check too.
>>715127549Game Shredder loves his serum to turn into Super Shredder
>>715127689yeah and at least that version of Super Shredder is actually SUPER and not a roid raging rape victim who does himself in by falling planks of wood behind the Vanilla Ice concert. KWAB
>>715127689https://youtu.be/WkE_quHvNEk?si=7vyzlRiq8bm0E9zq
TONIGHT I DYNE ON TURTLES SOUP
>>715122317 (OP)I mean, yeah? TMNT is a 15 billion dollar franchise. Doesn't it make a billion dollars in revenue every year. Wasn't the Last Ronin game announced too?
>>715125391>>715125560https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-JHiQZfKSE
You are here because the outside world rejects you.
>>715127637TMNT 3 is a fucking terrible movie. The costumes look cheap as fuck but April was never hotter than this
>>715127938fiscal 2024 was a 650 million dollar revenue year, up from like 500 the year before
>>715127668My mistake then
Also, fuck I really want a new TMNT Tournament Fighters
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>>715127637>No I wasn't actually the Addams Family is probably the last fucking thing that would ever come to my mind when I think of Ninja Turtles
>>715128005They had games and if the NES game didn't have terrible enemy respawn that was a problem for a lot of NES games, it would've been great.
>>715127938Last Ronin comic made me sad as hell.
>>715123253that episode came first
it was just another NY landmark
>>715126504>>715126870Is there a mod that combines SNES Turtles in Time with Genesis Hyperstone Heist? It would be the perfect game
If we're honest the toys these days are way better than at the height of turtlemania, even if everything else is worse
>>715128470I agree but I never collect TMNT stuff cause they come out with so much shit that I can never afford it all.
>>715128416There's probably a Beats of Rage mod somewhere. The Genesis game is underrated but I honestly think of the OG arcade game, Turtles in Time and Hyperstone Heist as the same game just with different levels.
>>715128470>Only TMNT figure I have right now is the Shredder from the Batman crossover movieI really need to beef up my collection.
>>715128580yea it's gotten kind of ridiculous, I do recommend ebay (make sure it's not bootleg from China ofc) and see if you can find stuff at more reasonable prices. All four turtles on average will run you 150+ bucks
>>715128470I had a bunch of the original toys and hated how unarticulated they were. Most of the wrestling figures at the time were the same. At most you would wiggle their arms and maybe legs. My friends and I usually just had wrestling matches with GI Joes since they were way more articulated. Modern era toys are definitely better in every way.
>>715128416There was a fangame that had a lot of stuff from the cartoon and the arcade/SNES game. I forgot the name, but I know it exists or existed.
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>>715123474Turtles in Time really wasn't that big in the arcade, especially compared to the first game. The biggest issue is that it came out in 1991 after the IP was starting to fatigue a bit plus there was a certain Capcom arcade sequel starring some guys called Ryu and Ken that came out around the same time that pretty much murdered everything else in terms of arcade revenue. There's a reason the SNES version replaced the arcade one in most people's minds as more people played that than the original.
>>715129093Rescuepalooza, it's better than Shredder's Revenge
>randomly skates by in your path
>>715128729>same game just with different levels.Yeah, that's what I mean. Certain sectiona feel like they would fit together. Like HH starts off in the sewers that could lead to Big Apple lever in TiT. The only real big difference with HH is getting to fight Tatsu
>>715129180Thank you, that was it.
>>715129158Somehow youtube has convinced people that Turtles in Time was peak TMNT when it was honestly just its last big hurrah.
>>715129158To be fair the Turtles in time SNES game is fantastic, more stages and they actually gave the turtles different stats.
>>715123729One of my earliest memories is eating with my family at a Pizza Hut and our table was a Donkey Kong cocktail cabinet.
>>715129126I had all the original toys growing up but never had any of the sets or vehicles. The only one I ever got was the one where you drop ooze on the toys.
I spilled the ooze on the carpet and my mom got mad and I never got another canister of ooze ever again.
>>715129507I think every kid did that, or cut open Stretch Armstrong and got his jelly stuck in the carpet
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2996040/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_Splintered_Fate/
Highly recommend this game, it lacks enemy variety a little but its really good.
>>715129474Yeah, no argument there. My only complaint about the SNES version is that's way too easy even on the hardest difficulty. I got it for my birthday shortly after it came out and cleared it on the highest difficulty that afternoon with only having to start over twice or so due to Slash being the hardest fucking fight in the game.
>>715125904Honestly, Manhattan Project will always be my nostalgia game, but goddamn was it too hard
>>715129158>Ryu and Kenthe boom of fighting games in the 90s for arcades was insane.
>>715129585this and that other one, Tactical Takedown, that came out recently, are OK, though I think it was AI written which in the case of TMNT is really pathetic
>>715125037Wonder how longtime Mirage only diehards felt when Laird abandoned the comic several years back right in the middle of several plotlines, leaving the original Mirage TMNT universe unfinished.
>>715125016>literally the coolest thing ever
>>715125016They were ahead of their time
>>715129638Each NES game was better than the last one. I would say they got increasingly harder but the last levels of the first game is ridiculously frustrating.
>>715124301Because TMNT learned the ultimate lesson: Constantly having comics, shows, toys, and the occasional movie, most of which are of decent to good quality, means you reap infinite cash flow.
That's why Transformers is still alive, while Thundercats died.
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>>715129745he was catching a TON of shit on the forums and emails at the time I think. Personally, I check out with Mirage around City at War or even slightly before with Return to New York, those feel like good end points. I don't like the direction Mirage was going in anyway with shit like April being a cartoon.
>>715125016That reminds me, Remember when the Toxic Avenger got a kids cartoon because of TMNT?
>>715130159>That thundercats show that looked like Steven UniverseI cannot believe that was ever a thing.
>>715130194Also got a game. Given the content of the Toxic Avenger movies it's insane those things got greenlit.
>>715130245The best part is when they lashed out at fans. Fucking retards.
So we're all in agreement 80s animated April is the hottest one right?
>>715130394Toss up between her and 2003
>>715130170Yeah, it turned into a trainwreck at a certain point and I was only reading it out of morbid curiosity to see how the shit would resolve itself (turns it it didn't). Mikey gleefully helping a genocidal rampage wasn't something I was expecting.
>>715130394shiiiieeeeet whatchyu talkin bout turdle boy
>>715130394Yes but there honestly isn't much competition.
>>715130312I'm more surprised it was popular enough to get those things. Troma takes pride its zero budget movies, how did they get the money for those kinds of deals?
>>715130534>Leo fell in love with thisLeo bros...
>>715130194so did Rambo and Robocop of all movies, it was a wild time
>>715130534Jesus F. Christ what did they do
>>715130530it was apparently supposed to represent Americans getting radicalized against Muslims after 9/11
>>715130591You just have to remember we had boomer parents who didn't know or care about anything their kids did. I was watching R-rated movies when I was 7 years old and it was perfectly normal at the time. So movies like Robocop, Rambo, Predator, etc, were all super popular amongst children at the time.
>>7151305712003 April isn't bad
>>715130394April (and even worse Casey) is not even allowed to be an adult anymore (or white) because Viacom decided it was 'creepy' for an adult to hang around 4 teenagers
>>715130576I'm just guessing it was more about the game studio not wanting to spend more on a bigger IP, so it would have just been free money for Troma and at least a few extra purchases for the game publisher.
>>715130746Depends on the parents, Conservatives were waging their culture war shit even in the 1980s only it was TV warping your brains.
The only difference is Toy companies bribed the fuck out of Reagan and the Republicans do deregulate things so cartoons could just be 30 minute commercials for their toys, which is why there was so much toyetic shit in the 1980s.
On the bright side, some of them had actual good writing so they still stood up the test of time.
But then their toys didn't sell so they got shitcanned anyway.
Everyone rage at what happened to Swat Katz, And no, t it wasn't because Ted Turner got horny for Callie.
>>715130857the only problem was turn her black. teen ril was cute.
>>715130857>80s April hairBest thing about her
>>715130746right, and for all the faults of boomers that's the least of them, my parents just impressed upon me it was pretend and not real.
>>715130746Back then movies would also appear a few years later on network or UHF stations with most of their R rated content censored or cut so kids got to watch things like Robocop for free instead of having to go to the theater or buying/renting the VHS tape.
>>715130889>some of them had actual good writing so they still stood up the test of time.i've been watching original He-Man recently and was surprised at how well it's aged. It's goofy at times but charming af. Up next for me is GI Joe and I'm hoping it will be the same.
>>71513085787 April looks OUTRAGEOUSLY sexy here, holy macaroni
>>715130746>>715130967>Either complete overreaction or simply not giving a fuckIt funny how there didn't seem to be a middle ground
>>715131008G.I.Joe and Transformers are both around the same in terms of quality. Some good stuff, some very very bad stuff, but most of it cheesy inoffensiveness. The best part is catching all the animation errors both series are absolutely overfilled with them.
>>715130746I remember when my older brother and sister helped me sneak into the theater to see Batman. Good times.
>>715130889>TMNT and Transformers survived >comics past the 80's, Thundercats, GI Joe, Ue-Man, Voltron all shat the bed and diedEh, at least TMNT and TF survived. Those were my favorites anyway.
>>715130947I still remember the first time my mom walked in on me playing Mortal Kombat. I was doing a fatality and she just went "Jeez! O_O" and walked out of the room like it wasn't that important anyway.
>>71513100880s GI Joe movie intro with song is insane. The most random fucking shit happening. Only the Transformers movie is better
>>715131105He-Man is actually still around, it's had toys on the shelves for several years, even before that terrible Netflix series. I often wonder how popular it truly is, but it has to have people buying it if stores keep stocking new figures, right?
>>715130889>Everyone rage at what happened to Swat KatzI just randomly remembered that I want to watch Stunt Dawgs
>>715131026Toei used to do work for like every cartoon series.
One of the most famous hentai artists in Japan had a hand in the opening of the 86 Transformers movie. Obari did a few TF episodes. Etc. You occasionally got these extreme quality animations or scenes due to it.
>>715122317 (OP)I actually liked the games more than the show.
>>715131227>We are the stunt scabs and this is our show!
>>715131227I can't believe anyone remembers that show.
>>715130889Recently I began rewatching the OG Transformers because Transformers One was such a good movie, and I was shocked at how well it held up. Some episodes could even touch on nuanced topics, in ways that kids or their parents could understand of course. Some eps felt like classic sci-fi short stories.
But then Decepticons taking over a night club so Soundwave could brainwash teens happened.
>>715131086>>715131376I'm a diehard Turtle faggot but upon completing G1 only a couple years ago I'd say overall it has the highest quality of all the 80's toy franchise cartoons for (occasional) serious subject matter (and the movie), actual worldbuilding lore some episodes (generally season 2 and 3) and a great introduction to epic scale sci-fi for a kid that was fairly unique. Would anyone honestly dispute that Optimus isn't superior to all four turtles?
>>715131173I thought the Joe move was garbage, but that fucking intro is legendary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8qxoe31wmA
>>715131376People always talk about hiw the old cartoons were 20 minute toy commercials, and they were. But they also had to sell you on the characters was the thing. They had to get you to like them, and for that, you need good writing.
Of course you also get the dumb shit occasionally, but generally, the shows were well written at the time.
Teenage Nigger Shitty Shartles.
>>715131469soundwave superior, optimus inferior
>>715123738I liked this part because she cares for the turtles so deeply she didn't attack them even as a bug monster.
>>715131008>>715131173DIC will always have the GOAT GI Joe theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxdXauE8XRs
>>715131581ALL TALK NO SHOCK
>>715122317 (OP)Don't worry Paramount has done a top tier job KILLING Ninja Turtles as a franchise. After the first Nickelodeon cartoon which was full of flaws like turning Donatello into an annoying April stalker simp they kept making worse ideas like Race Swapping April and hiring Seth Rogen to continue Race Swapping April but making her a disgusting obese potato and sex changing Casey and Bishop.
I swear Ninja Turtles is being destroyed worse than Star Wars under Disney. You hear that Kingdom Hearts fans you are shit! And I hate how its the shitty Seth Rogen turtles who are the guests in Sonic Racing. Gross.
>>715124815They've had several comics, movies, cartoons, video games, toy lines. They've been involved in pretty much every kind of superhero story you can think up. What more could they do with the Turtles? What do you want?
>>715131563The funny thing is that Hasbro had absolutely zero idea that kids would actually grow attached to the characters and the audience reaction to them killing off 90 percent of the old cast in the movie completely blindsided them. The reaction was overdramatized over the years but lots of kids were NOT happy with nearly all the season 1 cast getting wiped out to make way for the movie cast.
>>715122317 (OP)Did anyone else think that Venus has never been that bad of an idea? I honestly think she was a decent concept of a female turtle. What I can't forgive is how horrible Next Mutation is in general.
And I pray for the cancellation of IDW Ninja Turtles. That comic series is abysmal. Hey everyone ninja turtles are now pacifists who never kill extreme criminal psychos.
Almost every cartoon in the 90s had a game.
>>7151308571 and 5 are the best. Obviously they struck gold with the original but they struck silver with sexo nerdy black girl. Goddamn just imagine putting her glasses back on while your balls deep inside of her, floofing her hair and giving her a kiss while telling her shes cute and cumming inside as she blushes. Shame they decided to immediately uglify her with 6 because black women are not allowed to be attractive in media; they HAVE to be ghoulish caricatures that would make a confederate say "Hey pardner thats a bit much"
>>715124581You lucky. I've loved 3 places, they all died. Now everything is shitty and worse than me buying a $3 pizza from the grocery store and adding $3 of extra cheese
>>715131794>its the shitty Seth Rogen turtles who are the guests in Sonic Racingew, there goes my interest.
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>>715131547The animation in this is so fucking good. Hand drawn animation is the fucking best, I hate the digital shit.
Batman vs TMNT is some of the best turtle related content in the last decade or so.
>>715131376I prefer the 'Drugs bad' era just because writers were allowed to cross lines they normally weren't because it was about depicted how terrible drugs were.
Like in BraveStarr where they straight up kill a kid by having him OD on space cocaine.
Same with GI Joe where the Headman remains the only character killed on screen in the entire TV series's history.
>>715122317 (OP)You know what I find sad? Ninja Turtles is the one franchise that should be swimming with anthro women but the franchise barely has any. There's so few its disgustingly gay. Even things like Star Fox has a chunk of anthro ladies.
Ninja Turtles has more in common with Sly Cooper in that its a universe that lends itself to many anthro females but it only has one. For Sly Cooper its Carmelita Fox. For Ninja Turtles is Alopex. Not going to bother mentioning any other examples like Ninjara who only showed up once in Archie Comics.
>>715131924They did a soft reboot of IDW recently to make it edgier and more violent. It's.. kind of okay, except it's another one of those stories where the writer has the brothers refusing to cooperate with each other and you get frustrated at how stupid everybody is being due to their egos or mental issues.
>>715131731>Got to get tough, Yo JoeI could not for the life of me remember where I heard this phrase from. My brother is name Joe so I say it to him all the time.
>>715131904Yep. Really funny in retrospect. Suits are always sociopaths and psychopaths, and nothing proves it more than this.
>>715132072She looks like she gives good blowjobs.
>>715131547>All those explosions and they'll claim nobody dies.I love it
>>715131963What makes me angry about the choice to use Seth Rogen turtles is that when they added Ninja Turtles to Street Fighter as skins or as DLC to Fortnite they used original artists to create original adaptations of the Ninja Turtles.
I don't see why Sega didn't hire Sonic the Hedgehog's official artist and character designer to do his own Sonic Style renditions of Leonardo, Donatello, Michelangelo, and Raph. That would have been the best choice.
Anyway my hope is that the sequel to Seth Rogen's first TMNT movie is a fucking failure. I refuse to believe those shitty turtles are popular. Let me put it to you people like this, Kung Fu Panda is a theatrical movie that does Martial Artists Animals BETTER than Seth Rogen Ninja Turtles. And sadly Seth Rogen voices Mantis in Kung Fu Panda.
>>715131965>Trying to get the most kills so April will kiss your character
>>715131547openings were nowhere near the quality of the show. evil but I don't care.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqsgLxuMhLE&pp=ygUOc2lsdmVyaGF3a3Mgb3A%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HcGNqrAtsgg
>>715127938>gameIt's apparently an actual sequel/live action version of the entire story so should be kino but we'll see once the trailer hits
>>715132536Almost always the case. Gotta hook you with the opening that they only have to do once a season (unless they keep the same intro for the entire series). It was a sign the TMNT cartoon was dying when the openings got more and more cheap looking until the final seasons were them just reusing clips from the show and first movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLgebuCOExU
>>715131268That's because the games are allowed to inject original flair as such the turtles can do tougher things like actually kill off villains unlike the censored cartoons. It wasn't gritty like Mortal Kombat but the games did make the turtles cooler.
The worst Ninja Turtles games are those that are truly licensed and based directly on the lousy family friendly cartoons like 2003 and the first Nickelodeon cartoon. Those games don't have any liberty so they had to truly obey the rules of 4Kids and Nickelodeon which made the games feel "restricted" and soulless. I'll even take the Platinum Ninja Turtles game Mutants in Manhattan strictly because it was its own original thing as such the game could do whatever. Wasn't the best game but it didn't feel weighed down by airing cartoons.
>>715132635She only fucks the pigs
>>715129745Didn't it end just after the cites at war plot?
>>715131904There was a extremely old 4chan post, but i don't have a screencap of it so I'll just recite it as best I can.
>Optimus Prime was an extra father figure for every boy who grew up watching him, in fact if one day he came walking down the street and announced he needed help fighting off some space alien threat, hundreds of thousands of men in their 40s and 50s would grab whatever weapons they could find and follow him into battle without question.
>>715130889I found a peak 80's cartoon called Galaxy Rangers and apparently it failed because it wasn't toyetic enough, which is a shame because this show is fucking wild and borderline incoherent
>>715132573>Just take it easy alright. I already have the mayor breathing down my neck
>>715132825noo way it kept going into the mid 2000's
>>715122317 (OP)I started watching the cartoon again recently, haven't seen it since I was a kid. I can't help but cheer for Shredder and Krang this time around. A lot of jokes I never understood as a kid, and they have a pretty funny synergy those two.
>>715132069I stopped reading those comics dude they were simply too terrible. By the time the soft reboot happened I lost all interest and when I heard that the premise of the reboot is that the turtles were hating each other and I didn't bother. I've had enough of turtles hating each other melodrama.
And the thing is that in THIS franchise I really don't like the idea of the main characters splitting. Always hated it as early as the first time I saw this type of cliche in the futuristic episode of the 2003 cartoon. For this franchise the magic is the four brothers being a team playing off their dynamic personalities. On their own it just don't work.
>>715132927>The first episode where April just straight up runs into a wall for no reason It's hilariously bad
>>715132321That was always the funniest thing about the 80's G.I.Joe (and Transformers) cartoons as despite this big terrorist organization and big counter organization shooting at each other with guns and elaborate machina every episode probably less than a handful of people actually died in the entire run. The laser rifles everybody has never seriously hurt anybody, a jet can get blown up to kingdom come but the pilots ALWAYS eject, etc. It's why the Transformers movie was so jarring as suddenly the Decepticons were brutally murdering Autobots in the first 10 minutes or so when the cartoons never pulled shit like that.
>>715129745If they didn't want laird to leave they would have bought the books
>>715130170qrd,what happened in the last bits never got around to reading them after the turtles got transported to another planet with dinosaurs
>>715132998it's so annoying Optimus casually got blown to literal pieces in that one New York episode and his head displayed as a trophy but in the movie his famous death was due to a tiny little gunshot
>>715122317 (OP)Yes, and games were cheaper and easier to make. Everything had a game.
>>715122317 (OP)You know what I want a Ninja Gaiden style Ninja Turtles game I'm talking full blown M rated. I want to be able to butcher and slaughter all enemies with blood flying everywhere. If something as ridiculous as Metal Gear Rising can exist what exactly is so weird about the Ninja Turtles embracing edginess and NO don't make it based on the Mirage Comic. Make it edgy, make it bloody, but don't use the Mirage universe. Let it be original.
What the FUCK was their problem?
>>715132998nah. it was not about violence. it has been told many times in documentaries that the real issue killing the autobots was that mattel didn't know the value of the characters. the idea was kill them all so you can have a new line of toys to sell after the movie.
horrible marketing move.
>>715133143i agree but it will never happen, they are going to be trapped on the beat em up plantation forever
>>715133150Having overrated games
>>715133150They had David Wise music but that's about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrysXmzLN2Y&list=PLfI9I8nXF0BjJros8RJUyR0DN42Za9T-P
>>715133150marketing back them was edgy. confrontational. while legal has been proven ineffective and almost counterproductive. you don't to divide the consumers you want them all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEiXDbJDyNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG3LMhmF4jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm6neRzy9qI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzWCrGW5Fnw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIVPgM6BI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCWzOtLGnQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wZrt-JswPs
>>715133070I find this image funny. Many people say that seeing the turtles doing crossovers is weird and yet it was crossover what introduced Renet within the TMNT franchise. Renet is the franchise's time travel and multiverse character essentially. She exists to justify different dimensions and alternate timelines and such. And it took a crossover with Cerebus to justify all of her existence and her future role in the franchise.
So whenever anyone complains about TMNT crossovers point them in this direction. TMNT has always embraced crossovers inherently. Keep in mind the Cerebus crossover is older than the Usagi Yojimbo one.
>>715124507I know they lived in the sewers but it was so wrong that the films made them eat actual garbage instead of pizza.
>>715133274They still haven't crossed over with Daredevil. Literally the boy who was going to be their owner.
>>715133203I hear you, anyone else deeply resent Paramount owning the Ninja Turtles? Its proven to be lousy overall.
>>715133274on a different topic I like the 2003 episode about jack kirby
>>715133235I'll never forget the time I beat the battletoads arcade game at a hotel I was staying out, but didn't know I defeated the final boss because I had to go right after and left the game to some other kid who was watching me.
>>715133176*Hasbro
Marvel did it too sporadically with the TF comic as they did two giant rounds of "kill all the old cast off except the creators' pets". Starscream got super juiced up via the Underbase in one arc and slaughtered 90 percent of the cast then a few years later they had Unicron show up and kill a good amount of the remaining ones. The comic was getting so centralized on a core cast of characters by that point that when the original series ended there only about 20 or so Transformers left that the comic remembered existed.
>>715130170Return to New York was so fucking badass.
It was my introduction to Mirage TMNT when I was 8 years old. I was a at a comic shop in Vancouver with my dad (one that sadly closed many moons ago), and spotted #19 on the rack. Being the massive Turtles fan that I was, I asked my dad to buy it for me. My dad was familiar with the comics, so he carefully explained that it was NOT the Turtles I was familiar with.
"It's much darker than what you're used to. They're not party dudes, eating pizza and surfing. It's going to be violent, and not funny. Are you SURE you want it?"
Of course, I wanted it even more now because that made it sound awesome. And holy shit, was it ever. He bought me #20 and 21 as they came out, knowing how much I loved that first issue he bought me. #21 blew my fucking mind.
I remember taking the comics to school, and all the kids in my class thought I had brought some fake knockoff. when I tried to tell them that this was the real thing, they all called me a liar.
I wish I still had my original copies. But, hand a black and white comic to an 8 year old, and he's going to colour the fucking thing lol. I bought replacement copies in my teens while doing my best to get a full run of the og Mirage stuff (though sadly not first prints of #1 and 2. I did manage to score the recalled 2nd print of #4 for under 10 bucks though)
Did you hear the C.O.W. Boys of Moo Mesa are coming back too?
>>715133328Still angry about that, they had the turtles cross over with Batman and I once heard a rumor, so take this with lots of salt, that the Toy Story movies were supposed to give the Ninja Turtles a cameo since their action figures were popular at the time. Though funny enough the Ninja Turtles arcade machine does make a cameo in Disney's Wreck it Ralph go figure during the film's intro.
And in the end we never got the Daredevil crossover. Maybe Daredevil is not popular enough.
>>715132072>>715132142Dare I ask what Japanese parody this is from?
>>715133258>we never did get our glowing highways and personal airboards to ride on themI hate real life.
>>715122317 (OP)Did anyone else find Mona Lisa seriously sexy? Swear she was a cutie. And I don't want to hear any shaming this is the board that finds Argonian Women attractive.
>>715133445honestly I prefer biker mice from mars. but most nostalgia shit is worse than the original so no thanks.
>>715133082Shredder alive
Run away to the country
Have country adventures
Time to go back
Shredder is a clone made from worms
Leo chop Shredder's head off
Foot niggas go berserk
Karai helps Turtles kill Foot niggas
Utroms and aliums visit earth and Turtles can walk around
Splinter dies
Mikey impregnante alium then get radicalized
Donny shrinks and pilots a robot regular size Donny then clones Splinter
Raph mutates into Gamera
April is a fucking cartoon from Kirby's pencil
Laird get ipad and quit forever
>>715133332I knew Nickelodeon getting a hold of the IP would only hurt the franchise the moment I heard of the deal. Fuck Laird.
>>715133478>the Toy Story movies were supposed to give the Ninja Turtles a cameo since their action figures were popular at the timeThat would have...the world wasn't ready for it. Maybe now, but back then, no.
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So what happened to The Last Ronin game?
Some developer had the rights to it, they were hiring devs for it.
Probably dead.
>>715122317 (OP)Threads like this can only make one feel old. The most famous TMNT games are the ones based on the first cartoon. You don't get the impression the Ninja Turtles are popular with young generations which is why many theatrical movies like 2007 or the Bay movies are failures. And please don't say Seth Rogen's TMNT is successful that film made less cash than the Bay turtles. Genuinely doubt they are popular.
>>715133541Same company has Biker Mice now. They're going to make the best shared universe the clearance bin can buy!
>>715133615There are people who love the Bay TMNT movies just like they love the Bay Transformer stuff.
>>715133615the only Turtles series I see 'young' (ie mutt lefty zoomers) talk about is Rise, because of course they made the turtles four zesty niggas, and it was so bad it was cancelled while the toys rotted on the shelves
>>715133597I can see why they didn't though, the audience would be wanting to see the Turtles more than care about the movie itself and the cameo would have overshadowed everything else.
>>715133553and here I thought Archie TMNT was where things went off the rails.
>>715133553>april is a fucking cartoon from Kirby's pencilSo basically he pulled a Sega kek sounds hilarious in hindsight but must have been crazy
>>715133685idk maybe black people like the nigga turtles
>>715133445OH MY GOD YOU WATCH THAT
>>715133725I only heard about it years after the fact and a lot of people were fucking pissed, it is legitimately an awful plot development even by TMNT standards
>>715131026They based her look on Fujiko Mine. Blew my mind a bit when I first read about it.
>>715133725I hate that this game looks so good but plays just is very average at best. This could've been great.
>>715133592Laird sold out he is simply a tired old man. I don't blame him being tired but maybe he could have donated the TMNT to the public domain. Because he sold out now the copyright is owned by a corporation and we need to wait like fifty more years until the first copyright of Mirage expires. We will be dead by then.
And Laird never finished his final issues of Mirage and I still hate how he invented crazy ideas like Donatello being shrunk to toy size and is never cured. What kind of idea is that? Then you have other ideas like Michelangelo got sperm jacked and never got revenge on the hussy who sexually played him. Laird what were you thinking?
>>715133725Wasn't even 'crazy' as it was stupid and didn't do anything with the character.
Also April found this out by being voluntarily transformed into a cockroach and watching her parents in the past, she also had cockroach sex during this time.
>>715123157It was anti drugs, I think it was just Michaelangelo because there were cartoon characters from multiple franchises. They made us watch it in school and it was SO LAME. thanks for bringing back these totally radical boomer memories
https://youtu.be/lwDTB7yVN9I
Oh fuck, Alf, Muppet babies, its all coming back to me aahhhhh
Anyways OP is a faggot who will never understand how big the turtles were. Think 100 times whatever gay anime the kids are into today
>>715133703That, and the sensory overload would have been too much for the kids in the theaters, mainly me and my older brother. A cutting-edge 3D movie AND the Ninja Turtles? That's something you couldn't top or would have to go even further to top with the sequel.
>>715133592It resulted in 2012 and Shredder's Revenge, so it's not all bad.
>>715133685Speaking of which Bay is returning to make a new Transformers movie to that I say.....god no. Transformers is another suffering franchise.
>>715133853ALF may seem like an odd choice but at the time he was popular enough with kids that he got a cartoon spinoff. And that cartoon spinoff got a cartoon spinoff.
>>715133649I saw a Sectaurs figure at Walmart the other week and it didn't come with the giant insect handpuppet. Kids back then (as I was one of them) only gave a single shit about Sectaurs because of the hand puppets.
>>715133703The idea of a movie about action figure Ninja Turtles could be cool. Like maybe have the action figure Ninja Turtles fight robotic military soldiers like the movie Small Soldiers. That alone would sell the concept.
>>715133553>>715133708>>715133725>>715133802This is skipping over how they utterly ruined the Rat King, who with only two appearances was creepy and truly mysterious and extremely memorable, and then it turns into this absolutely dumb fucking bullshit with a pantheon of animal gods and Splinter having a doppelganger and the Rat King being a literal failed God of Rats
>>715133445The only episode I remember from this show is the shrinking episode because the four cows nearly get drunk and swallowed by the main female. Writer's disguised fetish strikes again.
>>715133907I'm not going to lie, I like the first movie. I think the designs of them are terrible though and I can't stand Bumblebee not being able to talk.
>>715134054I mean all Rat Kings pale in comparison to the hulking adonis who will hit you with his RAT BOMBER
>>715133932I watched Alf and Alf Tales last year. They were fine, I got some sensible chuckles. But the opening theme is superb: https://youtu.be/03_NqJFVEOc?si=0ItrvLpcv89kfeJS
>>715134215Never understood why they made the default color the weird purple outfit.
>>715134218The Moo Mesa announcement made me check the original show and I was not ready for them to actually get a real country music singer to make the theme song. Way more effort than you'd expect of a TMNT coattail rider.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgizT7q3ek0
>>715133445I watched the robot show they also produced and it was ass.
>Your Mighty Mutanimals, whatever happened there.
>>715134327All killed off by Satan because Ryan Brown couldn't get the greenlight for a cartoon spinoff.
>>715133772That was mostly a lie, mainly just David Wise trying to take full credit. 87 April's look came from the comics.
>>715129414Rocksteady and human Baxter too.
>>715134394Which was stupid as half the Mutanimals weren't even his creation. Mondo Gecko, Man Ray and Wingnut weren't even Archie characters and he got to kill them brutally.
>>715134215>TMNT>Justice League >Double Dragon >Sonic Everybody was getting fighting games back then
>>715125743Electro big band?
>>715134736It's kind of funny to think that MvC was really born out of a fighting game that was exclusively just X-Men, and Capcom just threw in Akuma as a secret joke.
>>715130746My parents knew. They thought it was important to teach us to fight commies at an early age.
>>715124315Only 4 player and not 6
I'm old enough that I saw the original ninja turtles movie in the theater the day it came out. I've never been that excited about a movie ever since
>>715125289Do Jeets live at that house?
>>715122317 (OP)The 1990 movie was really big.
>>715135295Returning to theaters in August
>>715130889Yes, we all know Reagan helped usher in a golden age for a decade or so
>>715126885>was the first TMNT and Ernest goes to Jail.Based
>my senpai ever rentednah you're still based
>>715130534Can't believe she's related to Shaq
>>715124315X-Men arcade kinda sucked. Its gameplay was dull and repetitive. It was only good for the graphics.
>>715134218Watch the Alf Christmas special. I rewatched it last year. Hadn't seen it since I was a kid and it made me cry because it is legitimately a sad episode. Really good though
>>715131825A usagi yojimbo video game guest starring the tutles.
>>715130889Fag Turner got holier-than-thou about violent cartoons and pushed his holier-than-thou pet project Captain Planet.
>>715123887I once got a pizza as gift by the emoyees when I was a child. Wonder why?
I see multiple obvious deleted posts
I look at archive expecting to see nekkid April
Nothing.... WTF?
>>715125217I wonder if that is a legit fighting technique
>hey wassup!
>>715127592I rewatched it last year. The entire plot is just really dumb and they really should have just used the Stone Generals instead of the weird pointless monsters that barely show up. Or just have the monsters be extradimensuonal creatures unleashed by Kraang.
>>715123729How come no one has built a 1980s pizza hut with authentic food and video games to sell to people. Nostalgia fags would eat it up, and others would just like the higher quality food that no one has now
>>715136301>A usagi yojimbo video game guest starring the tutles.Got the other way around, is that okay?
https://gamejolt.com/games/TMNT-Rescue-Palooza/39658
>>715136739You see it in joshi pro wrestling enough.
>>715136870I always knew smashing that giant muscle into the opponents face would leave an impression.
>>715136851Is the earth pig playable?
>>715132084This fight would be 10/10 if it didn't end with batman just, losing because he's retarded
>>715124301The reason the turtles work is because each turtle has one of the 4 main personality types
Serious organized
Laid back party animal
Nerdy introspective
Feeling emotional
Then the name sounds ridiculous so people want to know what the fuck a ninja turtle is and then they get hooked.
I don't begrudge anyone preferring the SNES version of Turtles in Time for the added content, but the arcade version had WAY better music.
https://youtu.be/wAb_gzuxKiA?si=E_diW7a5zTQo7Y3X
>>715137626No idea, I understand it's mainly based on the cartoon.
>>715130857>red head 00s alt girlYou know looking back, 03 April wasn't so bad
>>715138052That's because FM synth > sampled PCM. Many such cases.
>>715138301Fair enough, that's still a good roster.
>>715130857>I said April is a ginger, G I N G E R you dyslexic racist motherfuckermany such cases!
I was born in 80s. I remember most popular shows and toys being He-man, Ghostbusters and Turtles. He-man was already bit passe, then came Ghostbusters with the movies, animation series and toys and after that Turtles with the animation series and toys and later movies
>>715122317 (OP)Pretty much everything got its own video game back then anon.
>uhm yeahhhh I like the comics better
>yes! I read the comics! :)
there always a few of these niggas every time tmnt comes up
you're not one of them, right??
>>715138990Well, are they better?
>>715139074dunno, not murrican or even anglo, and I was a retarded kid so I only knew of the cartoons
I doubt the comics ever came out around here, at least at the exact time (maybe later, back then most things came over a short while after they got popular in the states, and only if they got big enough)
>>715139074Nta but the og comics are crungier and the set, characters and story read more like parody of super hero comics. The animation and following toys flanderized the franchise lot and made it kid friendly. The first live action movie did share some atmosphere and crunginess from the og comic
>>715138990Yeah the comics are pretty nice and also fucking odd. Remember that doulogy made when Eastman and Laird rented the comic out to a bunch of random people about the time traveling mutant little girl super genius. The one where the turtles were put into a bunch of junkyard robots and called Leonardo Leon.
>>715139286Just go readcomicsonline. That's how I read them.
>>715139412>crungier>crunginess?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>715139458Grunge, just woke up
>>715136849There was a local place in my area called Pizza King. It had retro video games you could play unlimited if you ordered a party platter. They used an actual SNES running a flashcart and you could choose hundreds of games off the list.
Minorities started going there and trashed the place and broke all the controllers. Now they just serve below average pizza.
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>>715125016https://youtu.be/t4e_JPrM7RI?si=BdXe8smtMW0lZkV-
They made the weirdest toys
>>715139436>Just go readcomicsonline.nigga that's now I was talking back then early 90's, didn't have internet until like 96 or so and getting this kind of shit for free was also way different (retarded kid, remember)
I might do so now however, you picked my curiosity
This was a super comfy thread, frens.
>>715122317 (OP)yes but no not really
you have to rememeber back then the internet didnt exist or was barely around or knew about
you liked whatever you were told to like and you watched whatever you could for 30 minutes before the day started
sometimes it was tmnt, sometimes it was pokemon, sometimes you had to watch hereculese or xena princess warrior. The world was a lot smaller then and alternatives wasnt a thing. You like what was given or you fucked off.
>>715125037How do i read the original tmnt mirage comics?
Where do i start and where do i stop?
>>715139839Which was actually great because sometimes you would get bored of the same old things on TV and go outside to see what the other kids were up to. This was true to a lesser extent with video games up until 16-bit era, when games started to feel more comfy than running around outside.
>>715135784>Drinking the kool aid
>>715132998>G.I.Joe gets a new beat em up>They had the perfect beat em up + shooting template with the Konami Bucky O' Hare arcade game>They still fuck it upFuck I'd rather have it just be like G.I. Joe arcade game if they can't do such a simple thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxdXauE8XRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFs9OBoQBl0
>>715140781>GI Joe>Characters wear the weirdest outfits and nobody says anything I feel like this only works as an 80s cartoon
>>715141628Marvel movies proved otherwise. On the flip side you had the GI Joe live action movies where everyone wore black swat style outfits and no one even remembers those movies except for the people who were disappointed by them.
>>715122317 (OP)yeah when I was basically a toddler I went to chuck cheese for one of my cousins birthday and about 80% of the kids were crowded around the turtles in time arcade machine
>>715142456I don't think marvel characters wear stuff weirder than this. The bad guys might be even worse.
>>715123738I liked when she became a cat-woman
>>715143889I guess if you go digging, you could find weirder mishmashes, like Defenders of the Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nblpob8gyzs
>a sci-fi guy>a masked vigilante from jungle>a top hat magician>just a black guy with some rope>teens with radical outfits?
>>715128470Yeah, I have most of the Super7 figures but stopped collecting those. I have the original Mezco turtle set as well as Casey Jones. I have a few NECA figures, but I'm not really a fan. I have the JoyToy Krang, and I think I might get the rest of the JoyToy figures. I did recently get an original Sewer Lair, complete and in great condition. Pic is from a few years ago of a lot of my Super7 figures (but not all).
>>715132327>I refuse to believe those shitty turtles are popular.It's obvious that they aren't, the modern toys are peg warming to the point that they are about to get shuffled off to Ollies. Don't worry though, the studio will continue to tell us that it's a massive success.
>>715130170>I don't like the direction Mirage was going in anyway with shit like April being a cartoon.When I heard about that I just started thinking about the shitty direction that The Maxx went in.
>>715131547Duke shudv stayed dead.
>>715132848toys didnt come out as planned but they were in the pipe
I've been thinking about getting into the main IDW TMNT comic, but have learned that there is a noticeable quality drop starting with issue 50 and then has a Doctor Who-tier nosedive into the nadir abyss from Issue 100 onwards.
>>715132927Krang was based on Jewish mom
>>715133094not to mention the fact that the autobots kept missing shots. they desrved to lose.
>>715148802>Be Pirates of Dark Water >Get cartoon >Get toys>Get 2 games>Still not popular enough to finish the story I will always be mad about this
>>715133424which is why IDW splitting the bots into different comics worked for awhile before the unavoidable faggot shit seeped in.
>>715134215I remember this. good times
>>715122317 (OP)>Were they really popular enough to get their own video game back in them days?Yes. This isn't a what-if situation or "let's take a chance". They were. End of story.
>>715127528>Also Laird and Eastman hated Bebop and Rocksteadypretty sure they were going to originally have bebop and rocksteady but one of those faggots demanded they change just out of spite
>>715122317 (OP)Why did James Unsworth do it!?
>>715138301it was a good move on the cartoons part to add so many character.
>>715149061Expensive show and the time slots were not kind to it.
>>715125016>boomersPeople born in the 60s didnt watxh Ninja Turtles lol
>>715125037this wouldnt last. Eastman checked out when the toy deal and cartoon deal started bringing in the shekels. he decided to pursue his true calling creating softcore porn.
>>715125743Kino.
Its a mix of the SNES diatonct sound font with TMNT's fast tempo, bombastic feel. Technodrome Let's Kick Shell is so fucking good.
I don't remember, is the arcade soundtrack different?
>>715148838Just read it until it turns to shit and then stop.
I have that CiB somewhere
Hard as balls
>>715127528It's true Laird hates them but it wasn't an Eastman & Laird decision, the original TV series still is a mess of copyrights and it was even worse back in the day, the movie producers just couldn't use Bebop & Rocksteady.
>>715127549shredder in the old cartoon was actually absolutely a negro.
>>715127758Damn, Movie Bob looks like that?
>>715123154some zoomers think acting like imbeciles is a great meme that will make rich and famous one day. He recycled that thread from an old one using Michael Jackson
>>715124857The original show is fun and great for young kids but the 2003 show and especially the 2012 show trounce it
TMNT was as popular as Batman/Superman at their peak. But they were mostly a fad, but they still are relevant enough to have a strong fanbase. I don't think turtle mania will happen again, the comic industry suffered heavily due to what turtle mania introduced to the speculative scene with the collapse in the 90s.
>>715122317 (OP)they were pokemon levels huge
>>715154987>Search Pokรฉmon rule 34 e621>Literally millions of results>Search gay TMNT Donatello rule 34 and e621>No results
>>715155592Yeah TMNT fans grew up while Pokemon fans didn't
>>715155757But watching cartoon porn is very manly and adult and not manchild at all!
>>715132084This movie was so fucking good but it really lost steam once they went to Arkham.
>>715122317 (OP)Yes. They were extremely popular.
>Voltron>TMNT>Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs>Loonie Tunes>Tom and Jerry>Batman:TASThose were the big ones. Also April kickstarted my puberty. My first waifu.
>>715131547I can't look at GI Joe the same anymore after Venture Bros.
https://youtu.be/J8_MbnWT4N8
>>715122317 (OP)yes, I watched as a kid in germany in the 90s and they were everywhere, toys, food, drinks, everything
>t. millennial
>>715145962Nice setup anon, Super7's ultimates have been a pleasant surprise these past few years, and they can pose pretty well for their size, especially how it feels like Neca is putting out stiffer and stiffer figures
>>715126039.......... XMUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkGIp0XREBs
>>715149061Genesis version gave it an ending and it was good enough for me to headcanon it as the official end of the story.
>>715127689Loved his look in the SNES Tournament Fighters where he became Cyber Shredder. Also loved how his stage music combined his usual boss music with the Turtles in Time regular boss music.
>>715128470I always get pissed when I see how good toys are now. I can't think of anything I would've wanted more as a kid than this Cloud figure.
>>715132084>>715132154I love when they show Shredder as an actual threat.
Like yea there's a reason this guy leads the foot clan.
>>715128470I always get pissed when I see how good game toys are now. I can't think of anything I would've wanted more as a kid than this Cloud figure.
>>715125953Those tie-ins took 3 months to make and were usually trash platformers.
That era is long passed, anon.
>>715159598Nintendo toys (outside of Pokรฉmon) were surprisingly uncommon and often subpar until like the late 2000s.
>>715122317 (OP)My dude they were popular enough that you could stick them on literally anything and make a million dollars.
>>715133445Did you know this had a sunset riders esque arcade game?
>>715123474Very old fag here. The 4 player arcade machine in that period easily rivaled SF2 and Mortal Kombat. It was everywhere and every kid woulf crowd it.
>>715135889That's what I get for abbreviating family
>>715122317 (OP)They were more popular than Superman.
They were in the same league of popularity as Batman, X-men, and Spider-man
>>7151267810:30 is that where power rangers got its watch beep sound?
>>715125743Why are you using the dogshit snes version you fucking nintendolt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF6_5LOnXOo
>>715130857Mutant turtles are not normal teenagers. 2012 Tmnt april is in for a rude awakening once she finds out about turtle dicks.
>>715157967Yeah, not a fan of NECA. Reminds me of McFarlane. I'd suggest checking out JoyToy, they are smaller scale but tend to be neat. I have a bunch of their 40k figures, and I recently bought their Krang. Going to try to get the turtles soon. The Loyal Subjects also put out some TMNT figures but they're mostly crap. Their Krang is okay if you can ignore the giant cut outs for the knees.
>>715154927While I am partial to the 2012 show, I think people write off the original cartoon too easily. I've revisited lately and it's not as goofy as I remember, especially early on. The animation is pretty nice too.
>>715159598That is a Bring Arts Cloud. It's actually literal trash, even if you get one that isn't fucked with QC issues. I once got a Bring Arts Shantotto (with Chocobo) that had two left arms. Square makes figures that are maybe on-par with knock-off Figmas, but they price them as legit Figmas. They should really be like $40-$50 instead of $100+, and even then they'd feel kind of crap.
>>715161112Damn, color me surprised but that's actually better than the arcade version:
https://youtu.be/qgNu883Srec?si=a1W-cPQEDHsqydBw
A lot of companies struggled with making good music on the Genesis compared to the SNES, but Konami definitely wasn't one of them.
>mfw my waifu is non-canon
>>715161903She's in Shredders Revenge, you have to find her yaoi filled diaries.
>>715122317 (OP)My old friend Raymond gave me his beat up turtles in time and I played the shit out of it. Miss you Raymond.
>>7151315470:30 reminds me of the power rangers turbo intro
https://youtu.be/_s98KJd95pc?t=4
Tom Dubois Turtles is how the turtles should always be drawn. Lean sinewy muscle and angry gritting faces.
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Now you have Vanilla Ice trauma.
>>715125743the electronic 'pizzicato' is very iconic. Whenever I hear it out there I always remember the tmnt snes game
>>715124267I was born in 2001 and my first experience watching the turtles was the 2003 series, when i was 5 back in 2006 the series were being aired on Jetix, and holy fuck watching the movies were such a backlash to me, i was acustomed to the gritty turtles so watching them acting so juvenile was a nice change of pace for me.
>>715125108It felt like I was the only one still watching it in 1996
>>715130330>The best part is when they lashed out at fans. Fucking retards.The reason most adaptations suck ass these days, they don't respect the source material and pretend that we will like it anyway
>Castlevania>Castlevania Nocturne>Devil May CryThose abominations ruined whole evenings of my life trying to look at anything possitive about them, then i watched that Twisted Metal series, and honestly i think they nailed most of the things, also Sweet tooth wasn't murdered so much, so there's that.
>>715162852>frank miller wrote the lyricscrazy shit
>>715166037It helps that Twisted Metal has very little consistent canon to actually violate. I don't think there's been a single game that didn't massively retcon or contradict every game before it. I'm still mad at what the show did to my boy Agent Shepard though, one of the series' only unambiguously good guys to get an unambiguously good ending.
>>715124359I honestly think it's because the franchise is just so weird conceptually that it lends itself to a peculiar longevity and reinvention (some better than others). They are four turtle mutants that walk upright and talk and with distinct archetypal personalities. OK. But they are also ninjas, with ninja weapons and abilities. Right. And they are raised by a mutant rat master. And their nemesis is an evil ninja overlord. And you have all this other weird shit; sci-fi and magic and a myriad of creatures and weird beings. I don't think the eternal battle between Decepticons and Autobots or GI Joe and Cobra has been portrayed with the same variety the way the Turtles vs the Foot have over their various incarnations; compare the Mirage comics to the cartoon to the 1990 movie vs Archie vs IDW. There's basically something for everyone because it's all so familiar yet different. Obviously I am not in favor of Michael Bay or Seth Rogen's stuff but even those can unite the fans in shitting on those versions.
>>715166910is it cheating to give high ponytails to reptiles?
>>715166910i swear every kid for years thought Mona Lisa was a girl turtle but she was a lizard
>>715166978Eastman and Laird had veto power and they were VERY against the cheap tactic of "now girl turtle".
>>715135505You smug bastard
>>715162676Please make a Sneed meme version of mickey, i swear it will be so much funny
Been watching Rise of the TMNT and its Over-hated. It's pretty funny and it's only major issue is black April who isn't even that bad.
Its a thousand times better than Mutant Mayhem which was praised as the second coming of turtlechrist
>>715166971No, because they're mutants, not lizards. If Turtles can walk on 2 feet and carry nunchucks, you can give them hair.
Furthermore, Mona was a human once, which gives her extra leeway.
>>715166910>girl lizardI don't remember her from the comics?
>>715166850>I'm still mad at what the show did to my boy Agent Shepard thoughIt happens sometimes, maybe someone in the writers team didn't like him, contrary to those 3 series i listed where everyone got murdered or raped as a character in ways i never conceived possible, i remember watching a woolieversus podcast were they discussed the castlevania series, and you know how to identify fake fans, because some dumbass said about Trevor's design:
"I mean they had to come up with something, it's not like there was so much material from trevor to come up with a design"
Dumbass literally has never played Curse of Darkness were they LITERALLY made the best Trevor design that will ever exist.
>>715168975she's from the cartoon
https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Mona_Lisa_(1987_TV_series)
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>>715122317 (OP)There was a time when we didn't have the Internet, kiddo.
There were 12 channels on your living room television set. One of them had Saturday-morning cartoons. Everyone watched it.
>>715168825I just realized but I don't think that figure can sit on that tractor. Look at that tiny chair
>>715161073It took maybe one test run and then it was very doable. Sacrificing Ralph or Miley is a must.
>>715169727myth busted dude look at him go
>>715169827My bad.
Was used to toys where the figures couldn't really fit in very well.
oh I get it... you fucking losers can't talk abouT VIDEO GAMES on this board but you can talk about TEENAGE ALIEN VOLTAGE VENGERZ FROM THE 80'S FOR 14 HOURS!!!!! VIDEO GAMES???!!!!!!!
>>715122317 (OP)they were all the rage once that 1987 cartoon came out, their video games were smash hits in arcades.
>>715123729My local Round Table still has a Sunset Riders cabinet.
>>715168770April in Rise is a carefree and pretty goofy. I don't remember much about Mutant Mayhem April except she's fat
>>715125743>SNESbright reverb that makes the OST fill more space and sound more alive
>>715161112>GenesisFlat sound and farty bass
I prefer the SPC
>Gift exchange 2nd grade
>Person who pulled my name was a girl
>She gave me a Leonardo figure with a party hat or something
I've forgotten so many things in my old age but that memory is so vivid.
>>715171306I little while ago I randomly came across a picture of Werewolf: The Last Warrior and suddenly remembered I asked my mom to buy it for me at a flea market cause I thought it was Altered Beast
>>715171306Hey, at least you didn't get Clown Mikey.
>>715170524What's video games?
>>715161843Huh. I guess Square figs haven't changed much since I last saw them with Play Arts Kai and its terrible knee joints, lack of stands, flimsy leg joints and fucked up proportions for a price you could buy two figmas for.
>>715122317 (OP)Damn straight they were. And turtles in time is batshit fucking insane. 10000/10. Zimple as.
>>715123474>>715123729Every Pizza Hut and Chuck E Cheese had a TMNT cabinet.
>>715172039You know, I think that game was originally going to be a Wolverine game. I swear thereโs a boss that looks like Juggernaut.
>>715169827this why i still prefer the OG turtle toys. small enough and articulated enough to put on vehicles
>>715130746I actually strong armed my parents into taking me to watch Robocop in the theater. Holy shit didnt realize how violent it was. my mom covered up my eyes when they executing Murphy.
For me it was Archie comics Turtles
>>715122317 (OP)>back in the days?Kek.
>>715133685eh, ended it up getting those when i got rest of the old movies. Just need Turtles forever now
>>715128827 found gif finally
>>715131825>This show had a love triangle between Donatello, April and Casey Jones.>Donatello won.Fucking BASED.
>>715124267I guess dumb zoomers asking questions so they can learn is better than just assuming nothing existed before they were born.
>>715160086It was a great game, too. A little on the easy side. When I went back to replay it, I was disillusioned by how much easier it was than Sunset Riders. But still good.
>>715177510That's like one page a day for the rest of your life
>>715133445That's what they said about SWAT Kats. But I haven't heard a peep about that in ages.
>>715178198I played this game only once at a CiCis Pizza a while back
>>715131227Holy shit, you're a real one for remembering that one, anon.
I think Sizzle gave me my redhead fetish.
>>715122317 (OP)No of course not, people just liked burning money back then.
the reason why they still have movies, comics and tv shows being made about them is because someone thought it would be funny
>>715178198Having a lifebar helps a lot.
>>715132459This was fucking genius. It definitely motivated me and the other kids at the arcade to win.
>>715129126I never had these playsets as a kid, and I'm legitimately jealous. All I had was like 2 turtle figures and a duck man who I don't even remember showing up in the show.
>>715127549Common issue with 80s cartoons. The villains all have to be bumbling idiots so there are no real stakes, similar to how even GI Joe, entirely built around spec ops vs terrorists fighting each other with military firearms and armored vehicles, had nobody ever take an ounce of damage and anyone whose jet was shot down was immediately shown being unharmed and floating with a parachute. Blame soccermoms and christoids, the first wave of modern media censorhawks.
>>715149698Kids of that era didn't make the toys, dude.
>>715123729every american nostalgia is cooming over franchises and corporations
>>715179078And then Duke FUCKING DIES in the movie.
>>715123729Our local TMNT game was in a legitimate arcade. It was so cool.
>>715132008Like they say, give a japanese studio a budget and they'll make something that looks amazing. All these 80s cartoons (gi joe, transformers, etc.) were animated by japanese companies, including G1 of that one super scary show that makes gigahitler shit his diapers so much it got confined to one board
>>715169802>I never played the game
>>715179078It makes me sad to think how cool cartoons could have been, unrestrained by the yoke of nagging moms afraid of little Timmy's adrenaline spiking even once.
At least sometimes things got through. SWAT Kats had actual people (cats) dying on screen. One episode had a guy who wasn't even the villain of the episode turn into crystal and fucking shatter. And no, you definitely did not get better when the episode ended.
>>715131376Soccer moms and "D&D is SATAN" christoids and yes, their sequels, inb4 BUT WHATABOUT CURRENT YEAR IMMA ACCUSE YOU OF SHIELDING *shits pants* weren't able to ruin everything just yet. Fucking Sesame Street, educational preschooler show, taught kids about death back in the 70s because one of the actors had died and they decided to broach the topic.
>>715179704>One episode had a guy who wasn't even the villain of the episode turn into crystal and fucking shatterActually he was a morally bankrupt warden, also when crystal villain was stopped, everyone turned back to normal.
Of course this meant the warden was in pieces and still dead
Going on this about 'why can't we show people dying?' I used to be like that with Samurai Jack because he could only slice up robots, then after seeing season 4 where he actually killed people, I preferred him just slicing up robots.
>>715179664That stage isn't very hard. If it wasn't for those random currents that push you, you wouldn't take too much damage
>>715123729This except i did it at a roller rink with nachos
>>715179897>Actually he was a morally bankrupt wardenYeeeeeah, he wasn't a nice guy, but he wasn't like the guy going around killing people either. That's a fate usually reserved for like a Batman Beyond villain.
>I preferred him just slicing up robots.Sure, but the key difference here is you might not want the HERO killing people. But villains? They don't care. And consequences for their evil really builds up the stakes.
>>715180132>But villains? They don't care. And consequences for their evil really builds up the stakes.Then you create a Joker sitution where why would the heroes let a murderer stay alive if they are beyond redemption and will just keep killing people.
>All the people I've murdered, by letting you live.
>>715179826>taught kids about death back in the 70s because one of the actors had died and they decided to broach the topic.https://youtu.be/T4CKuSRYrcQ?si=Kvg14kdtFsOuu29M&t=231
>This opening about a political candidateThe more things change, the more they, actually things are a lot shitter now and getting worse.
>>715180256This only becomes a problem if you have an extremely limited roster of villains, and you keep them all on ice so you can revive them season after season. There's ways around this:
>They escape capture, so it's not the hero's fault>Just introduce new villains. Maybe related to the old ones, but not the same guy breaking out of arkham 50 timesI'm sure there's plenty of others, too. Honestly, the "Joker" problem is just a prominent issue if you obsess about a series too long. You were never supposed to consider that angle, unless it's a legitimate internal struggle for the protag. I think I'm fine without even addressing it, unless you make them too openly genocidal.
>>715179078>Common issue with 80s cartoons. The villains all have to be bumbling idiots so there are no real stakeswell yeah it has to have the kind of plot a child would make up when they smash their toys together
>>715161843>>715174581Yeah, it sucks that Square Enix created their own line of toys instead of licensing to better companies. They're only good for statue shit.
>>715180556There in lies the problem, if you create murdering one time villains like Morbulus who die, the audience can't grow to like them.
And if they're recurring, you create the moral problem of a system that lets murderers constantly escape.
>>715180556>>715180256In BTAS, which is arguably the greatest depiction of any of those characters, none of the characters were ever evil enough to warrant death, not even Joker, so it never really grated on anyone that Batman never killed them. The full-blown capeshit comics are where things get ridiculous. It really makes no sense for the villains to get such extreme changes but the heroes remained static and unable to cope with those threats.
>>715179704Never forget that we lost Swat Kats because Ted Turner wanted to push more Captain Planet on the children.
>>715181409This is actually wrong, the creators of SWAT Katz said the show got cancelled by some mid level executive who was unhappy about the toy line not coming out fast enough.
Ted Turner didn't even know the show existed.
>>715181208There in lies the rub, BTAS is still a cartoon show for kids so they couldn't show the villains killing people directly.
>>715181591THATS EVEN WORSE
THE SAME SHIT HAPPENED TO STATIC SHOCK
>>715181172>if you create murdering one time villains like Morbulus who die, the audience can't grow to like them.True. And a cartoon does aim to sell toys, which is infinitely harder if you don't give them lots of screentime. There's a balance to be struck between "disposable villain of the week" and "recurring headache character for the heroes." TMNT is probably a good example of this, because I'm sure there were plenty of bad guys who only had 1 episode.
>>715181946Batman Beyond didn't have a problem doing it
>>715181591>BTAS is still a cartoon show for kids so they couldn't show the villains killing people directly.They found awesome cheats for this, like Joker's smile gas. Not explicitly lethal, but they were unresponsive and horrifically altered... you could certainly come to the conclusion they were dead.
>>715182096Batman Beyond was awesome, but I don't think it was as successful as the showrunners hoped, either. It certainly wasn't a breakaway hit even if I hold it in high regard.
>>715145962Never got any Super7 until they entered my domain. Overpriced but badass looking figures
>>715124720>my brother and I were huge TMNT fans as kids>my nephews are both big fans of TMNT now>on meetups, we sometimes enjoy playing TMNT games togetherIt's a bittersweet feeling