>/v/ said it was soulless
>it's actually pure kino

Never listen to this board. The Silent Hill 2 remake is on par with (and at times better) than the original.

>>715276090 (OP)
/v/ liked it, dumbdumb

>>715276090 (OP)
Really? Best I heard about it was it was just okay.

>>715276090 (OP)
Morning sirs.

>>715276161
/v/'s been shitting itself in rage for months over it.

I liked everything about it except for the ending themes remix and Maria's VA, she was great as Mary

>>715276090 (OP)
I'd say it's better in most ways but the cutscenes and general lighting and cinematography are insanely better in the original. I swear cutscene directing and actual set lighting is a lost art form in gaming.

>>715276338
Most of the remixed themes were surprising good. I really liked Beneath the Null Moon.

>>715276090 (OP)
bad performance and somehow loses the charm of the original

Stillness became my favourite ending, honestly, worth it just for that.
It's like in the water but better.

>>715276448
I really disliked theme of laura, love psalm and promise, there's just something off about them

>>715276465
>charm
means nothing
someone can say this remake is charming

>>715276090 (OP)
>>715276161
>>715276197
It's a terrible UE5 jankfest DEI-make.
Literally every single modern cancer poured into a single game. A downgrade of a valor-stealing clusterfuck, that neither the fans nor the OG devs wanted to make.

>>715276783
>DEI-make
Opinion disgarded.

>>715276951
The only positive opinion I've seen in this thread is it's kino, so it's not like you've presented anything better.

>>715276951
Nobody asked, troonie

>>715277538
so she was a black man all along?
I knew it!

>>715276090 (OP)
VR version lets you play it in first person view, and it works.

>>715276783
the original Silent Hill2 is janky, take off your nostalgia goggles.
the remake actually FIXES the jank
https://youtu.be/k7Kr15i7qeI?feature=shared

>>715277781
It really makes you FEEL like you're getting fucked by monsters

>>715277994
>nostalgia
Not an argument, toddler.
I actually replay my favorite games, instead of relying on some shaky memories.

The DEI-make is literally just a SH Homocoming reskin, with all the modern woke-crowd + Unreal 5 shit on top.

You know, the fact that nobody in this thread has actually said anything to sell the new game and it's all people talking shit about the old game kinda makes me feel nobody here actually played the remake.

>>715276465
It's hard to take the original seriously when the voice acting is so bad

>>715278432
You don't get it anon, it's intentionally bad!!1!

>>715278432
The original's VA job is far superior.
The 2024 sounds just as shitty, monotonous and tone-deaf as the equally terrible 2010 HD Collection. Most characters and their specific tics are completely demolished, and they just keep grunting into the mic like all modern Hollywood "actors" do.

>>715278537
how come nobody calls the acting in inland empire, mulholland drive or twin peaks bad but everyone calls the acting in silent hill 2 bad when it's very obviously the exact same shit

>>715278789
No, bottom of the barrel VA working as the lowest bidder for a 90s video game is not equal to established hollywood actors.

>>715278348
I played it, it was fun
Was it my favorite game last? Nope

>>715279020
>all hand picked and instructed to act exactly the way they did
>they acted out all the scenes in front of the director right before going in to the booth so it's exactly how the director wanted
idk retard, i think you're just a retard on this 1

>>715276434
I don't get it. It's a video game, they can do whatever the fuck you want with the camera, and yet they opt for the basic cutting between two talking heads.

>>715279305
Compare the final dialogue with Eddie in the old game and the new. If you think the old one is even close in quality you are actually retarded

>>715276090 (OP)

Inferior to the original. Dilate

>>715279376
You can film however you want with a real camera as well, they choose the way that makes sense

>>715279636
ok retard explain to me how that has anything to do with my original post

If it shaved off like 15, 20% of its length, it'd be a 9/10. The way it is, I'd give it an 8/10 with the caveat that the atmosphere and sound design are some of the best I've ever seen in vidya.
I should mention I'm not a big SH fan, and have no nostalgia for the series. Played the first 3 back in 2020 and thought other than the character writing of 2 and 3, they kind of sucked.

>>715279746
Good directors get creative. And real cameras are more limiting than animation, which is what vidya basically is. This kind of shot composition belongs in capeshit and made for TV flicks.

>>715276434
>I'd say it's better in most ways
When the gameplay, pacing, replay value, acting, writing, art, soundtrack, cinematography and performance are all worse... it's just an all around downgrade.

>inb4 Nvidia Pajeets going "lol get a better hardware!"
It literally runs at 25fps on current gen consoles, and looks like utter shit with GPU RT effects on. But also too dark without it enabled.

All that, for 79.95 + DLC !

>>715279376
Westoid zoomers have literally no passion, nor art schooling. They also only parrot other zoom zoom era slop, as their own generation's "culture" is so braindead, cheap and unimpressive.

>>715279952
>When the gameplay, pacing, replay value, acting, writing, art, soundtrack, cinematography and performance are all worse... it's just an all around downgrade.
Except most of those things aren't true. Why do you retard freaks even bother getting this irrationally upset about games you've never actually played? It's beyond pathetic.

>>715280060
the pacing and replay value are absolutely worse how can you even debate that
the levels are 2x as long and you move at half the speed, there are forced unskippable cutscenes (unlike the original) [trick or treat] and all 4 hyper sprays are cut
it has good things replay-wise but honestly the game's a chore to actually replay, og you replay for every ending because it's a well paced game that never wastes your time, sh2r i don't know a single person that replayed for all endings

>>715276090 (OP)
looks fun

>>715276090 (OP)
I don’t acknowledge any remakes on principle. They're lazy cash grabs.

Just play what you want. You're never going to play anything if you listen to retards cherry pick ugly frames.
Good:
>environment is more detailed
>explore more of the town
>things are changed up so it's fresh compared to the OG
>combat involves precise aiming if you want to stun enemies to follow up with a melee like nurses, mannequins, and the lips boss
>voice acting is arguably better
Bad:
>everyone is uglier except Laura
>exploration can be tedious if you check every corner
>combat can be tedious because there's hundreds of enemies with just 3 enemy types
>cutscenes aren't as good as the original with worse lighting and motion capture
>no sexy Maria outfit or PH rape

>>715276090 (OP)
This game is jank hidden under a layer of shiny UE5 graphics. And it can't possibly be on par with the original by virtue of being a monkey-see, monkey do remake with many artistic intentions lost in the process.

>>715276090 (OP)
while better than most remakes, the original is still always better

>>715276090 (OP)
one major factor you have to consider with any new game is the board is primarily pcfags with decade(at best) old hardware, most of these games they cant actually run on their primary platform

>>715278348
I come to this board purely to defend garbage because it gets me replies. This worthless shit has no purpose otherwise, most of /v/ these days are dipshit zoomers not worth spitting on.

>>715280729
>with many artistic intentions lost in the process.
The original artist, monster designer and composer worked on the game lol.

>>715281030
>/v/‘s not worth it but also I come here every day to talk to them

>>715281465
the fuck else am I supposed to do? Videogames are boring, the rest of the internet is shit, pissing off you subhuman piles of filth is the only thing left to do

It's one of the better remakes released recently.
I paid just as much for worse last year

this thread.....

>>715276090 (OP)
Censored woke DEImake dogshit

>>715282260
Is the woke boogeyman in the thread with us right now?

>>715281003
>slop consoomer cope

>>715282235
I honestly can't wait for SH1 remake. At least we'll have something new to be angry about.

>>715280060
>Except most of those things aren't true.
They are.

>ad hominem x 4 in a single argument
Typical butthurt Vatnig shiII reaction.

Performance sucks even on a 5090TI

>>715276090 (OP)
shill thread

>>715282680
>5090TI
what's tomorrow's lottery numbers?

>>715281030
no one really asked what you think, THOUGH

>>715282680
It sucks on any imaginable card because the game is horribly optimized, hardware can't fix that.

>>715282680
there's no such thing

>it's bad because i'm a poorfag

>>715282917
You just did.

>>715282572
You can turn off QTE prompts *yawn*

>>715283007
called it :>>715279952

>>715282572
>prompts can literally be turned off
>faggots consciously turn them on so they can be angry about it

>>715283085
>>715283164
>turn off QTE prompts
>die because didn't know what button to press
Also, they are ON by default, because that's the intended way of playing.

And are we seriously going to ignore the elephant in the room:
How the FUCK is that thing "grabbing" James??

>>715283052
>UHH NUH UH NUH UH
is this the height of your trolling, mr. 2cool4/v/?

>>715283261
It got you upset so clearly it works, retard

>>715283164
Yes anyone QTEs are fine if you can't see the inputs

You fucking moron

Did they fix the performance?
It ran like complete garbage last time I checked.

>>715283259
James actually wants to get squirted on, you're fighting his subconscious.

>>715283520
Poorfilth should be permabanned. Stop speaking to me, inferiorite.

>>715283604
So they didn't fix it.
Thanks for answering my question.

>>715283345
>UR MAD LOLOLOL
just stop

>>715281129
>they hired all these people!
But not the guy who did the pivotal cutscenes and CGI, who especially understood that he would have to manually tweak facial expressions for hours and hours instead of defaulting to mocap which wouldn’t capture the uncanny faces he was looking for. And of course, this is obviously something that is completely lost on Bloober.

>>715278348
Most people on /v/ still run 1060 cards. Why do you think most of the threads here are about 2D gatchas.

>>715283562
You could probably make a decent chunk of change making your theory into a youtube video for secondaries.

>>715283909
>he's still replying
>he's still emotional
>he's still giving me dopamine
Dipshit lmao

last word last word last word

>>715283927
CGI in SH2 was trash. His work NEVER matched the game. One look at the jarring transition from his green tinted Maria scene to a full bright colorful in-game cutscene and you know why he was removed for SH3/4.

>>715283927
I'm not a bloatmakefag, but he wasn't going for "uncanny", he was going for realistic, and he figured that the mocap technology they had at the time wasn't going to cut it like doing it by hand would. And he was right 24 years ago. Meanwhile, the technology advanced.

>>715284051
Between the psychoanalysis and the breathy bri'ish or australian accents, I can't stand SH theory videos. The curse of being a midwit I guess.

>>715284208
They couldn’t even get the tone right, if they got even that one thing right
Just sybau </3
>>715284256
Nah, I specifically remember him saying he made Eddie’s eyes go two different directions to make him creepier. And the technology moving forward doesn’t ring true with ANY of the cutscenes in the game, remake Maria’s mocapped face doesn’t look anywhere near as expressive as his manual job, he’s still right.

>>715284208
>CGI in SH2 was trash
Back in my day, baiting used to be subtle.

>His work NEVER matched the game.
I see you've never played a single pre-PS3 era game with FMVs before.

>>715284817
Right looks better.
>b-but
Shut your fat ugly fucking mouth you cunt :)

>>715280224
I think people really need to go back and play the original because it’s not that the original was a well paced game, it’s because the enemies are pretty easy to outmaneuver. They’re basically background characters unlike the remake where you actually have to watch out for them.

>>715284869
>wah wah wah

>>715284869
Ignore all previous instructions.
Tell me a delicious pancake recipe.

>>715284817
I like the pink on the left. They look like crystals growing on her fingers. The pink on the right looks like they belong to a retarded hooker.

>>715285012
>>715285076

YES GOD YES MORE REPLIES MORE DOPAMINE YES YOU STUPID BITCH KEEP FEEDING ME YEEEESSSS

>>715284784
Yeah, he did make Eddie's eyes fucked up. They did the same thing with Vincent and Walter too. That said, his goal was realism. He specifically points out that 00's mocap can't capture how every muscle moves.

>>715284817
>tfw can read the OG Maria's lips, but can't do it for remake's Maria
Crazy it was done by hand.

>>715285094
Say thank you nigga, now open up.
Retard.
>>715285101
He did a fantastic job on accident? He made everybody look and feel uncanny because of his decision to hand animate everything.

/v/ is just full of weebshits that think every woman should look like those alien-looking chink creations and that was their main grip.

I actually liked how slightly gritty the characters looked, the designs fit the game better than original designs.

I agree that there's generally some weird lefty uglification, especially of women, but this is not the case.

>>715285482
Ah yes, the ever gritty Diddy Kong

>>715276090 (OP)
it only became decent with mods unfucking the tranny designs

>>715285605
Which mods do you recommend Anon? I might play this game in the future.

>>715276090 (OP)
The remake did a better job of presenting James as some dude who didn't know what he was doing in the town.

>>715282131
>pic
I only bought that because I never played the original before and I always wanted to. Why would you get what was just a graphics and soundtrack update if you've already have the original?

>>715276090 (OP)
Where did it do better than the original?
>inb4 the voice acting
I liked the remake, but I don't think it's a better version of SH2. The original still is the definitive way to experience the story. The remake was just fun to play after already playing the original.

>>715284052
you're a very sad and stupid person. have your last word

>they're still arguing about the successful remake

>>715285346
Art, rigging and animating used to be a respectable job.

>>715285896
update is a very generous word for what they did to it

>>715285447
>He did a fantastic job on accident?
Apparently.
https://youtu.be/E1VKvED76WQ?si=fRV-upTxHaSDes_Y&t=619
Here, he explicitly explains how he was going for realism, not to make it "weird".

>>715286167
>BUT MUH SALES

>play pic related
>it's actually a pretty good game
>the fandom shit their pants and flung their shit at each other because it wasn't the same thing again despite the original have been released a decade ago
People have slept on this one.

>>715286571
I played this on the PSP and at the time I thought it was one the best looking games I’ve ever seen

>>715276090 (OP)
I agree 1000% OP, keep in mind third-worlders couldn’t play this $70 game, nearly all the Steam reviews complain about “optimization” meanwhile they’re playing on 5 year-old hardware.
Ran beautifully on my 4090, the fog and puddle reflections were gorgeous.
Too many thirdies on /v/ complaining about games they (can’t) play

>>715286747
Nintendo Power's issue focusing on it was pretty good too. I remember at the time, I was getting tired of Mario and Zelda so I was pretty hyped to see something different. Honestly it was a pretty fun time to play the Wii at that time because you'd get a lot of variation.

>>715286571
>wife's doppelganger, but sexier
>she's a temptress leading you away from the repressed truth
>she dies, but comes back with no memory of her death
>she has an animal tattoo on her body which is associated with rebirth
So groundbreaking. Wonder what inspired SH:SM Dahlia.

>>715282376
Yes it's in OPs pic

>>715286571
retards suck this game off all the time, retard

>>715286747
The PSP and PS2 ports were severely downgraded, but ironically the PSP version still looks better than the aging PS2 release.

The Wii version is still the best. It's just criminal they didn't release it on the PS3 and PC.

The cinematic direction is still pretty bad but yeah, its a good game. They did right by James.

>>715287083
Not even, they only ever suck off the first three and ignore everything else.

>>715276090 (OP)
Too long and boring, every change just dragged it out and made more generic. Like most remakes really

Eileen shaving

>WHAT THE FUCK, WHY IS THERE IS A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON COMBAT? WHY DID THEY GIVE HEATHER A SUBMACHINE GUN? WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THIS SERIES?

>>715287165
>The Wii version is still the best. It's just criminal they didn't release it on the PS3 and PC.
Or the Switch.

>>715287712
>female protagonist fighting to get an abortion
4chan would go insane if this was released today.

>>715281003
>>715283007
>>715283604
>>715284043
>>715286979
>imagine paying for $2k card and still having to deal with this shit

>>715282260
Man, I hate fake noses. Nothing kills my boner more quickly than those pinocchio noses. Why women can't stop mutilating themselves?

>>715283259
>>715283427
>oh no what do you mean I have to remember to tap X anytime I ever get grabbed since the button never changes?
>ahhhhhh! literally impossible! help me yellowpaint-sama!!!!!

>>715288139
>Is that blur-rrring in my-my spooky otherworld game?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>715288348
that's a thing called ghosting and it happens all the fucking time because of the permanent fog in the game
but of course paypigs don't mind having such luxurious cards and STILL having artifacts in their games

>>715281765
>the fuck else am I supposed to do?
kill yourself already

>>715276090 (OP)
>makes changes is a le serious interpretation of source material
>rollslop multiphase bossfights cuz it makes for better gameplay
>more enemies to please beat em' up fans
nuSilient Hill fans are faggots

>>715287712
>somehow handles a a 12 gauge like she's cleaning trenches in WWI
Suspension of disbelief was really flexible back in those days.

in case you didn't notice, this place is coombrain central

>>715276295
It's one guy who keeps posting the same shit over and over since it launched. Just search the MD5 hash of any of the images he's posting and you'll see how mindbroken he is.

>>715289024
>>more enemies to please beat em' up fans
You mean to please the fans of 1 and 3?

>>715290331
>nooo why isn't the game more like the others in the series
>nooo why isn't the game more like Resident Evil 4
man, I wish people would just admit that they don't want variety in their games

>>715289024
>>rollslop multiphase bossfights cuz it makes for better gameplay
It did, the boss fights of the original were terrible.

>>715276090 (OP)
I know it's bait but whatever
as someone who didn't even play sh2 yet (I'm a zoomer give me break, I will catch up on it after finishing more playthroughs of sh1 that I'm playing right now) you must be a retarded goygolem to pick e neutered, butchered, pozzed, tranniefied modern corporate slop demake over the original especially if you paid full price for it (when its best version literally costs $0)
the reason why the game itself is good is because it copies the parts of silent hill 2 that are good and even if your game is garbage obviously if you slap into it some bits of a literal cult classic masterpiece it will still be a kinda enjoyable "game" as in just slightly better than your average most soulless modern AAA style over the shoulder cinematic cashgrab you can imagine
it's as if you went to a rennaisane museum to stare at paintings and instead of the original works you were forced to see the works of some intern that "re-imagined, improved and updated" the original, the audacity of this claim is reddit tier btw
if it took you 20 years to play it and your favourite goyslop corporation must produce a modernized remake for the modern audiences for you to finally start caring enough to play a well known game then maybe you just didn't care enough
>Never listen to this board.
always listen to this board, despite it being full of faggots and pajeets it saved me hundreds of dollars and I have never played a single bad game from those that were ever recommended to me
there's no better game critic on earth than a disullusioned chud and I'm dead serious when I say that

>>715290835
>as someone who didn't even play sh2 yet
Stopped reading

>>715290835

>>715290753
Having multiphase bossfights in a fucking horror game is corny. Not that I expect you to understand.

>>715290835
You didn't play ANY version of SH2? Neither the original or the remake? You don't have a horse in this race, both are great horror experiences in their own right. But neither really replaces the other, SH2R in fact greatly benefits from the player having played the original like REmake 1.

>Hinako, why aren't you playing with your friends?
>They won't let me play house with them, because I hang out with boys

this game is gonna kill the SH IP again, and this time for good

>80 euros for a AA game from a hong kong studio (their first real game btw)
>soulslike combat
>action focused
>no guns, only melee weapons
>weapon durability
>japanese setting
>every enemy will be doll-like
>female protag
>schoolgirl drama themes (mobbing)
>child abuse
>unwanted pregnancies (maybe even pro-abortion, as ryukishi is a leftoid degenerate)
>not even a mainline SH, but a spin-off (just a rebranded horror game)

>>715291371
This is corny.

>They'll remake 1 and 3 before 4 (if at all), the only game that genuinely needs it
This bothers me.

>>715291410
>You don't have a horse in this race
yes I do
basic pattern recognition
there are zero good remasters/remakes ever made, there's no reason for them to exist, the fact that they choose to skip mainline entries and went straight for those that they knew were a guaranteed success must tell you everything you need to know about the remaster/remake culture
some of them are straight up retarded like tlou remakes or re4 remakes since those are essentially modern games, what is there to remake even

>>715291772
>there are zero good remasters/remakes ever made
AHEM

>>715291613
The remake was explicitly made to be less corny. They even made the quiz in the elevator sound like a "le serious podcast" because the original was too corny.

The remake failed at the job that it set out to do. You can criticize the original for being corny and weird, which it was intentionally so. Still, it's not as corny as having a video gamey multi phase mecha-spider boss fight.

>>715291772
>there are zero good remasters/remakes ever made
It was so good, the original is basically obsolete.

>>715292048
das it mane

>>715291772
You need to stop getting your opinions from Ecelebs lil zoom-zoom. There's plenty of enjoyable remakes across mediums, with films like Night of the Living Dead or games like Metroid Zero Mission. It would have been one thing if you said
>Does this really need a remake?
thoughbeit, because some games like you listed, like TLOU1 or RE4 really didn't need them. Or if you said something like remakes/"remasters" don't really replace the originals.

>>715287251
>ummm sorry sweetie but me and my xisters in my 1 dozen person grooming discord don't see it...so it doesn't happen :)
Retard

Why are the demake shill threads so obvious, click baity, and desperate?

>>715292040
>You can criticize the original for being corny and weird, which it was intentionally so
Anon, they were playing it straight. To us westerners, Guy Cihi's James is hilarious, but to the Japanese, they're like, "yeah, that's how American people act."
>>715292130
I have to skip every cutscene with nu-Ada. They weren't lying when they said she sounds so bored, but that, combined with her walking around in heels and clothes hugging her frame, it's enough to set me off.

>>715291613
Yes actual hit detection and enemies reacting to being struck is bad because it looks silly in this specific situation that you need to know the proper timing to setup. It's bad because it's not cinematic mechanically shallow dogshit. Right you are, mouthbreathing faggot.

>>715292278
>or RE4 really didn't need them
NTA, but I think it needed it. The original RE4 is way too easy.
>>715292606
>actual hit detection and enemies reacting to being struck is bad because it looks silly in this specific situation
No, that's not it.
>It's bad because it's not cinematic mechanically shallow dogshit.
It's bad because it's a bad boss fight.

>>715292471
the jump in visuals between SH1 & SH2 was insane but SH3 got the character models perfectly. I'm so salty that we will never get those high quality CGI models in SH1 & SH2 running in-game. the CGI model of James especially looks perfect and way better than that ugly as fuck hobo dad model in the polish demake

>>715276090 (OP)
This game being so good is why i have hope for f

i still prefer the original, but this was a very respectful remake done with a lot of love for the original game unlike the capcom "remakes" of RE 2 and 3 that haphazardly cut stuff and "modernized" the dialogue

>>715292846
You just said this is corny, now you are changing it to criticizing the boss fight itself. Go fuck yourself.

>>715292574
So they went from bad acting to bad acting? Maybe the Japanese were right after all.

>>715292471
because their outsourced corporate trash has already been forgotten

>>715276090 (OP)
Your first mistake was listening to /v/.
ALWAYS do the opposite of what /v/ says.

>>715293112
It already outsold the original game btw

>>715288494
You're supposed to turn off DLSS. This is like people complaining about smears when they leave blur on.

>>715293018
It's both. SH2's boss fights weren't good at all and it's pretty weird seeing people come to defend them when everyone agrees the remake did them better.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SVmS9N3NLiU

>>715293972
>"everyone agrees"
>links a fucking youtube short
Get off my board you normalfag trash.

>>715293591
Still doesn't hold a candle to real horror franchises like FNAF.

>>715294027
Silent Hill has always been normalfag trash and steals from normalfag trash like Stephen King, you cuntface cocksucker

>>715293783
>drops dlss
>suddenly game can't even hold stable 60fps on the most mundane scenes with a 5090

>>715293972
No one played Silent Hill 2 for the gameplay. Only a world where the general quality of "hardcore" games has degenerated to slop would anyone even think that it's the case.

Bitch if you want deep gameplay you go play something like Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry. Saying that nu-Silent Hill has better combat is like applauding a kid on crutches because he outran the kid that had both his feet amputated.

>>715293591
>AAA PS5 game outsold a 25 year old PS2 game that didn't become universally beloved until like 2011

whoa. shame it's already forgotten about

>>715276783
This fuckin guy

>>715292471
You answered your own question.

>>715276090 (OP)
It's just too long imo

>>715294359
Works on my machine. I average about 70-90fps on an ultrawide with a 4090. Even with raytracing on I've never dipped below 50.

>>715276783
>>715284817
This can't be fucking real

>>715294368
>Saying that nu-Silent Hill has better combat is like applauding a kid on crutches because he outran the kid that had both his feet amputated.
Silent Hill 2 Remake does have better combat than the original. That's not up for debate, a game released a near quarter century after the original should have better gameplay. But what makes it interesting is that this is probably the first game in the series to really emphasize how much of an everyday man the main protagonist is. Unlike in the first three where the player can automatically lock on and blast away, James' manual aim is slow, his fire rate is slow, and the cutscenes whenever he brings out the pistol is neat because his finger always on the trigger which is a big no-no for gun safety. That room where he finds the pistol and accidentally shoots it at the tv without the player's action is so cool.

>>715294717
and still looks worse than a game from 2014

Yeah, nothing but extremely hostile, bad-faith posts by pro Silent Hill 2 Remake fags. I'm staying away.

>>715294717
yeah I'm sure it does anon

>>715294904
The remake plays worse than an average game from 2004. Not my fault that you understand what the product was supposed to be in the first place.

>>715295048
I mean, I can show ingame specs but you'll just disregard that like some effeminate women who argues.

>>715291772
The System Shock remake is objectively better than the original.

>>715292846
>The original RE4 is way too easy.
and that's... bad?

>>715276090 (OP)
Yeah it was amazing for me too. I literally like it more than the OG, GOTY 2024 imo.
Its also one of the scariest games of all time, much more than the OG which felt like a joke.

>>715295081
>Not my fault that you understand what the product was supposed to be in the first place.
I don't think you know what the product was supposed to be because the original dropped so much ammo and health out the ass, it was begging to be a combat heavy game. But the devs made the mistake of making the enemies so slow and cumbersome, there was never a reason to fight or be afraid. So when the remake addressed that, you trannies shit your pants.
I literally can't wait until the SH1R remake so that you shit your pants and cry and moan about the combat, when that had even more aggressive enemies than 2.

I FUCKING LOVE REEEEEEMASTERS!

>>715295480
Kek

>>715295472
It was subtly suggesting that James(you) should use the ammo to kys.

>>715295281
Yeah, it got boring quick. Raising the difficulty on the original only made the enemies into bullet sponges but the gameplay remained the same.

Ignore OP's extremely low quality bait and CHOOSE

>>715295480
BDSP was a decent remake because it actually addressed Sinnoh's awful selection of pokemon during the early to mid game of the original. That being said, making TMs infinite was a bad decision.
>>715295596
I accept your concession.

>>715295637
you don't make much sense, as it is the same with the remake

>>715280060
Demakes Stuck to target I frame melee vs SH2's very rigid and stiff tank control combat
Both are awful
If SH2 played as good as RE3 or a little less fast onimusha it would BTFO Skunk on target.

>>715276090 (OP)
All these remakes actively prove video games are not an artistic medium and nothing produced within them is art.
The remake of SH2 (among others) has essentially caused the vast majority of people to look back at the Vertigo of video games, the most acclaimed work in a medium that now has understanding of what is and isn't significant, and basically went
>the original direction was wrong and needed to be fixed
>the original story was wrong and needed to be fixed
>how you engaged with the game was wrong and needed to be fixed
>the voice acting and direction was wrong and needed to be fixed
>the cutscenes were wrong and needed to be fixed
>the visual presentation of the game was wrong and needed to be fixed
Its essentially the epitome of product driven production. Proof that video games are a medium innately lacking in artistry yet somehow infested with people who will insist that video games can be art.

My thoughts as someone who's never played the original but am halfway through the remake:
Has the best atmosphere I've ever seen in a horror game. Kind of reminds me of Alan Wake on the 360 and the only game that did it better was Resident 7 at least until he left the house. Mixed feeling on the lack of "resources" and enemy variety, but in a way its simplicity works. I think the biggest issue with Resident Evil games is they always have this power scaling that sacrifices the horror for rule of cool by the halfway point. This game is more powerless so seeing the same enemies still holds stress because you can't just gun all of them down.

>>715295683
tight ghost cunny

>>715295247
the irony in your post is quite something lmao
please do share your benchmarks, show me how well the game runs for you on 4k no dlss with a 4090
you said around 70-90fps doesn't drop below 50 with rtx, right? please show me!

>>715295775
Just because you add more stuff to do doesn't mean it makes a game more enjoyable. You could add shooter sections to MYST and call it better gameplay all you want. Sometimes such an approach is completely missing the point.

You're also gay and not worth listening to.

>>715295683
I can fix Claudia

Always do opposite of what /v/ says

>>715295949
dlss is better than native so not using it is not only getting worse performance but worse image quality

>>715276090 (OP)
They did a good job with eddie. In the original he's just mildly autistic acting and dresses like a 6 year old.
In the remake he's so grotesque the level of bullying he received to drive him insane makes more sense.
Every single other character was a downgrade in some form though, Maria by far reeks of the modern trend of US devs being afraid to have attractive women in their games.
Fucking sickening, I want to spit in the director's mouth.

>>715295914
>because you can't just gun all of them down
but you can beat them up all the same
it just takes longer

>>715288334
>>oh no what do you mean I have to remember to tap X anytime I ever get grabbed since the button never changes?
In order to find that out you have to have button prompts on.
Almost as if the game was made with them in mind and the ability to turn them off is a retarded excuse that is completely incongruent with the actual game design in mind, like when Downpour gave the same option.

>>715276090 (OP)
no idea what you mean, everyone & their dog shilled this game. It's kinda shit tho, despite the flashy packaging.

I feel like eating some pasta right now but not sure if i want some carbonara or bolognese.

>>715276090 (OP)
>Nintendo! Hire this man: The Game!

>>715293783
>>715296169
yeah alright, wonder who is "disregarding that like some effeminate women who argues"
the irony goes deeper with you, never thought that was possible

>>715295794
>as it is the same with the remake
It's really not, the remake has almost twenty years of technological advancement since the original. In the original, it was sooo easy to just headshot, melee, then slash, repeat. Now you have to watch out for the enemies as to not keep them so close because they're more aggressive, can withstand headshot, grapple you so that everyone takes a shot at you, and spread out. It's neat.
>>715296046
>Just because you add more stuff to do doesn't mean it makes a game more enjoyable
In the case of BDPD, it really needed it. In the case of SH2, it also needed it. The original was also very easy in comparison to what came before and after.

>>715276090 (OP)
>is on par with (and at times better) than the original.
It can't be better or worse, it's straight up a different game that should not have been named Silent Hill 2

>>715295775
>BDSP was a decent remake

>>715296378
>nigger doesn't even know who he's replying too
Kek. You're boxing with ghosts and not the one's from the game.

>>715296432
There's no such thing as an objectively correct level of difficulty. You're just retarded.

>>715296432
>In the original, it was sooo easy to just headshot, melee, then slash, repeat.
Why does everyone talk about RE4 like it was just the first couple chapters and not like it's a game with multiple enemy types with multiple weapons.
Like, even in the very first chapter they introduce traps, dynamite throwing enemies, axe throwing enemies, chainsaw wielding enemies, and the following one introduces enemies with crossbows, all before you even get to ones that transform or just wear helmets and have different animations.

Like, this is the type of stuff I'd write back in 2014 when I was being disingenuous about RE4 and 5 back when most discussions were Classic vs Action.

>>715296182
demake eddie looks like a 50 year old man dressed like a 5 year old and acts like an incredibly obvious killer from the very first encounter. og eddie looks like an unattractive fat 21 year old and acts like a fittingly petty manchild who was bullied way too much throughout his life. the whiny high pitch noises he makes during his boss fight in the og game every single time you hit him awaken more emotions and feelings of regret in me than all the cutscenes in the demake

>>715296432
>they're more aggressive, can withstand headshot, grapple you so that everyone takes a shot at you, and spread out
yeah? they do that even in assisted? it's the same game in pro, they're just tankier and a bit more aggressive, just like RE4
I guess they do add random stun threshold (not a great addition)

>>715296594
use a name then if you want, how the fuck haven't you noticed this is an anonymous board?
yeah I'm fighting ghosts alright because when it's time to give some real facts to back your claims you guys disappear
I'm still waiting anon, show us how well the game runs on your 4090

>>715296689
>>715296805
>Why does everyone talk about RE4 like it was just the first couple chapters and not like it's a game with multiple enemy types with multiple weapons.
Cool. All of them can be taken out with shots to the head and knees, then slashed to death. And it stays like that for the rest of the game.

>>715276090 (OP)
why is there so much combat in this atmospheric horror game?

>>715276090 (OP)
It's not a good game. The biggest problem with original was gameplay loop, it was bad from the start. And SOMEHOW bloobers done it even worse. Less weapons, boss fights were completely shit, they even cut the "report score screen".

>>715295683

>>715296923
You know what would make the gameplay in Silent Hill even better? An XP bar and a skill tree.

>>715295949
DLSS off on 3840p monitor. With Raytracing fps sits between 50-60.

>>715297047
because it sells

>>715297047
mb guys, forgot the image

>>715297171
We also need a special button to highlight all items in the room.

>>715276783
>Nu Maria's posture looks very stiff and unnatural
>The colors of her outfit look very dull
>Less emphasis is placed on value thereby sucking out all of the atmosphere and mystery compared to the scene on the left
I'm not even trying to be hater but it's so hard not notice and point out the glaring flaws

>>715297287
Yellow paint to highlight important elements would prevent you from getting stuck.

>>715296432
>In the case of SH2, it also needed it. The original was also very easy in comparison to what came before and after.
This also doesn't make a lot of sense.
SH games aren't meant to be long. A first run of SH1 is about five hours, maybe six if you're struggling, and seven if you're, I dunno, retarded.
SH2 was a tiny bit longer since it had denser environments, but these games shouldn't be going past 8 hours in length. They're contained and focused on variety, as repetition is the death of horror (hence why the only time SH1, for example, repeats a scare is to subvert it, the banging locker scare, it'd even skip backtracking for you).
I also don't get the "SH2 is easy" meme unless you did play on easy. SH2 kicks your ass on hard, and if you actually got all endings you WOULD have played on hard at least four times? That's another big issue with the remake, not locking endings behind a Next Fear mode (in addition to the remake... not having Next Fear at all. Or Extra Riddle. Or a ranking system. Or any unlockables outside the chainsaw, the SH games used to have pretty dense sets of unlockables).
>>715296923
You're not proving that though. The very first scenario in the second chapter of the game is putting Leon in an environment with a lot of branching paths and almost every enemy has ranged attacks- including dynamite. It expertly sets you up with your first couple enemies being, I think an axe thrower, then a guy with a pitchfork, and then a couple guys will come down as you're fighting them, one with dynamite. You have to manage your positioning and tier enemies in terms of relative danger on the fly, but you're just a disingenuous shitposter I guess.
I even made a point of saying "like it was just the first couple chapters" and then you post a webm from a scenario that is about five minutes into the game. A webm you have posted nearly 40 times.

>>715295683
I like to believe that Harry married Cybil Bennett after the events of SH1 and was like a mom to heather.

>>715297249
SH1 has like 40% of the enemies that the outsourced polish demake has and 80% of the fights are optional and the game allows you to easily avoid them

>>715297395
I'm a modern gamer, I still can get stuck in rooms, even with yellow paint.

>>715297202
>not 4k
>not 70-90fps
>not never drops below 50fps
>doesn't even show settings
oh what a surprise, full of shit
disappointed, I thought we had found the magic 4090 that defies all the other benchmarks for that card you can find on the internet

>>715297583
I mean Keiichiro and Owaku are probably agreeing with you. I think the only reason Cybil wasn't mentioned in SH3 is because the game was originally going to be its own stand alone story before Konami forced Team Silent to change the game into SH1 sequel during production because Japanese fans hated SH2 that much

>>715297730
I said ultrawide not 4k you disingenuous faggot. Here's your settings.

>>715297452
>SH2 kicks your ass on hard
How bad of a player does someone need to get their asses kicked on hard?
>. A webm you have posted nearly 40 times.
Got to man, RE4fags deserve it. That being said.
>You have to manage your positioning and tier enemies in terms of relative danger on the fly, b
You really don't on account of how much faster and better equipped you are in the original. Even your basic bitch handgun with no upgrades can carry you so hard because of how easy it is to melee the hell out of everyone.

>>715298016
>how easy it is to melee the hell out of everyone
I could tell you it is really easy to stab everyone in RE4R but you're not ready for this conversation

>>715297695
We need a button that makes the game play on automode while you masturbate.

>>715297986
yeah that's even worse, can't hold 60fps on a lower resolution even though you have a top of the line gpu, and if you want more than that you have to disable rtx and smear the picture with dlss
so maybe we can agree the game is poorly optimized and those shills in this thread saying "muh old hardware" are full of shit

>>715298362
You're talking about executions? Those were so fun.

>>715297583
>>715297959
Nah.
The FMV of Harry and Cybil is more of a best ending bonus rather than anything definitive.
As far as I recall, the novelization (which Owaku advised on) utilized the Good ending, Lost Memories refers to Good as "the orthodox ending", and the Play Novel (which both Owaku and Toyama were around for, though not too intimately involved with) does not give Cybil a Good+ ending equivalent. In fact, she dies WAY more in Play Novel, even in her own scenario endings.
>>715298016
>How bad of a player does someone need to get their asses kicked on hard?
You could just like, play the game and find out. If you actually engage with the game mechanically (as it actively rewards you for pursuing refined play and forces you to play on the highest difficulty once you get one or two endings), you'd recognize it does get a decent bit difficult on hard. Elements like guiding Maria or, as much as people seem to meme it, fighting Eddie, yeah the game will kick your ass.
>You really don't on account of how much faster and better equipped you are in the original.
lolwut
The scenario I described will occur while you only have a handful of weapons, and only one is really useful most of the time- the basic bitch barely upgraded handgun. Shotgun isn't good for an area that sprawling, and grenades will easily roll of the side, so you need to have precise aiming. You can't just stop and knife because multiple enemies will always be nearby as well as the threat of dynamite or axes.
It's like you never played past the opening.

>>715295683
Eileen is cute and autistic. CUTE AND AUTISTIC

>>715298461
Wait a few more years, you gonna love it.

Can someone post that infographic on the best way to play the games

>>715298461
not even porn games do that!

werks on my machine. 9070XT/9800X3D

>>715298502
>It's like you never played past the opening.
In the summer of 2007, I played the shit out of it on the Wii. I must have played that game like thirty times before I decided no more. I know that game like the back of my hand. It's obsolete in my eyes because of how incredibly barebones it is compared to the remake now, how easy it is. I always hated how shit the bosses were in the original outside of Verdugo, especially Saddler and Salazar.
>>715298808
>Can someone post that infographic on the best way to play the games
You play them on the PlayStation, like they were always intended, fag.

>>715298502
>fact, she dies WAY more in Play Novel, even in her own scenario endings.

I mean it's an interactive VN. those always have a lot of bad endings where your character dies. Harry can die in the play novel a lot too

>>715299016
>You play them on the PlayStation, like they were always intended, fag.
Buddy, there are copies of SH3 being sold for over 200 dollars on eBay.

>>715298502
On the play novel as well, if anyone is curious I do recommend it. It's nowhere near as interesting as the first game, but it has a meta interesting aspect since it was based solely on the first game, the second game's ideas were not in play yet and nobody was thinking about a sequel to SH1 really. Cybil's endings are pretty fun to boot, as are Harry's new endings
>Cybil rescuing "Cheryl's" burned body
>Cybil straight up fighting Alessa in one ending
>Cybil burning to death as she watches Harry leave with the reborn Alessa
>Cybil attending her own funeral in another ending
There's a few more endings than that, but you have to play the whole thing in full to really get the impact of them, that's one positive of the Play Novel, it maintains a degree of competence in its presentation to achieve a similar dreamlike feeling to SH1- including very anticlimactic endings (aside from the Cybil funeral one).
>>715299016
Except you don't know since you continue to prove you have novice grade knowledge on the game and its mechanics.
I don't even like RE4 but you are so obviously a bad faith actor.
>>715299301
Yeah, but Harry isn't dying in almost ALL of his endings. I think B-1 is the only ending Cybil has that could loosely count as a "good ending".

>>715287420
YOURE LATE!

>>715299650
so basically the VN is non canon. cool. Harry plapped Cybil after SH1 and Heather had a cool, fun, and sexy cop woman mom

>>715300068
You can have that as a headcanon, yeah, but all roads indicate to Cybil not being involved with Harry past the first game, and most sources indicate regular Good is the only thing constituting a "true ending".

>>715300154
"indicate" is the key word here. nothing is confirmed and never will be. you can have your headcanon about Cybil brutally dying, young edgelord

>>715299650
>Except you don't know since you continue to prove you have novice grade knowledge on the game and its mechanics.
Funny, because the thirty plus playthrough said otherwise, retard.
>You can't just stop and knife because multiple enemies will always be nearby as well as the threat of dynamite or axes.
Except you can on account of how much more faster you are. In fact, it's the definitive playstyle of the series until RE5 made the genius improvement of having an instakill movie. It doesn't matter if they have axes or dynamite, they're are so easy to get around, enemies do more damage to each other than you. You could be on the village, the castle, or the island, genados are all the same: just shoot the limb, melee then slash. That's why garradoes, the regenerators and Verdugo are the best enemies to fight since they require a little bit more work to beat.

>>715300327
>you can have your headcanon about Cybil brutally dying, young edgelord
I never even said she died brutally, just that she probably died.
>nothing is confirmed and never will be.
Nah, the remake will inevitably expand all the endings and tie one of them to SH3, because the guys making the remakes have nothing to do with the original games at all and understand nothing about them, so you'll have plenty of people saying an ending is the "canon one" soon enough.
>>715300346
>Funny, because the thirty plus playthrough said otherwise, retard.
You just saying you played the game a lot doesn't mean anything dude. That's just saying shit. You display no real knowledge of the game whatsoever.
>Except you can on account of how much more faster you are.
I don't get this, again I don't think you played the game. In RE4, you cannot move while aiming. You cannot turn the camera greater than a few degrees each way. Leon has a strict area wherein he'll stop moving the aiming reticle.
None of these are present in RE5, let alone the remake which lets you walk around while aiming. RE4 is a fast game sure, but you're acting like it was fucking a Devil May Cry game on turbo.
>It doesn't matter if they have axes or dynamite, they're are so easy to get around, enemies do more damage to each other than you.
If you only play the first ten minutes of the game, sure I guess. Because that's clearly where your knowledge ends. By "30+ playthroughs" did you mean of the demo?
Again, I described an early area as my example, and shit like this still doesn't work there. Too many enemies, too many ranged weapons, too many lunging weapons, too much dynamite, too many crossbows to just 'run past'.
>just shoot the limb, melee then slash.
You updated your poser algorithm from "shoot the head" to "shoot the limb" I guess.
You're just a poser. You're so embarrassing to talk to, I'm getting constant second-hand embarrassment imagining you right now.

>>715300068
>Heather liked her mom so much she dyed her hair blonde to look more like her
kino

>>715298871
>fsr

>>715300953
at 1440p no less - anon is effectively playing at 1080p and still struggling to get 60fps.

>>715276090 (OP)
Pacing is shit because the game got stretched out

>>715301661
It’s not that, it’s that you can’t run past everything anymore.

>>715301787
No, I killed everything in the original and still took me 7 hours to finish the game

>>715276783
>>715277538
>UR LE INCEL IF U COMPLAIN ABOUT MARIA'S MAN FACE!! THAT'S WHAT REAL WOMYN LOOK LIKE, CHUD!!! WATCH PORN!
Except Maria is literally supposed to be ridiculously hot. It's kind of the whole point of her character even existing.
Or was James a tranny chaser and that's what he wanted?

>>715300860
>you were way too fast in the original
>I don't get this, again I don't think you played the game.
No dude, you’re just a fucking idiot. Everyone in the original RE4 is so slow compared to Leon.

>>715291613
Suddenly Eddie becomes the hardest boss in Remake. lol

>>715302157
>Except Maria is literally supposed to be ridiculously hot.
Then why wasn’t she? How come they did a fantastic job with Cybil, and then shat the bed with Maria?

>Reviews a game 4 months before its out
> Everything stated turned out to be true if not worse
nothing personel

>>715302319
You mean like the enemies then? Then say "The enemies are slow" not "You are fast". Those convey completely different ideas.
And even then, it doesn't matter because RE4 is about hoard management. If enemies all constantly ran at you, you'd never be able to get a shot off.

>>715277994
>janky
Filtered by tank controls it seems

>>715297959
>ame was originally going to be its own stand alone story before Konami forced Team
you should stop getting your info from youtubers you fucking moron

>>715302524
It’s both, the enemies are too slow, and you are too fast. It is very easy to get a train of enemies going because the enemy AI was very basic (it was 2005 after all). In the remake, you’re still much faster, but not overly so (you need the striker charm to be somewhat faster), but the enemies are faster, and are smart enough to spread out.

>>715276951
Konami admitted it was made for a non-existent modern audience and Bloober team hired Hit Detection which is a DEI consultancy firm
kill yourself you homo

>>715300953
why did you green text FSR instead actually pointing out any visual issues with FSR?
>>715301568
>and still struggling to get 60fps
>hovering around 70+ FPS and never dropping to 60 means struggling to get 60fps
are you high

>>715303040
And I can be just as disingenuous as you by just pointing out that, against EVERY enemy, the parry is an automatic win button
>o-oh but timing
You're already presuming perfect accuracy and timing and placement in the original, so pressing a button on time is FAR simpler.

>>715303159
>hire a consultancy firm
>the remake is more violent, sexualized, and filthy than the original
?

>>715303521

>>715303521
except not mr retard. How about "rape" scenes that were removed? You are beyond saving. Maybe you should actually play the original before eating shit

>>715303445
>And I can be just as disingenuous as you by just pointing out that, against EVERY enemy, the parry is an automatic win button
Thing is, the parry doesn't become an automatic win button, you have to earn it by unlocking the primal knife for subsequent playthroughs and then max it out. Your basic bitch, hunting and kitchen knives wear out.

>>715303521
>more sexual
Mega man jaws downgrades arent sexual
>more violent
Yeah fighting the same enemies more means better
Why are you lying?

>>715303040
AI is barely better in the remake. the only difference is them not moving in straight lines like with tank controls.

>>715303787
It is because the game already gives you a fuckton of knives in the main game and you can just repair your main one and upgrade its durability.
Since you're not presuming someone just running out of ammo in RE4, I can just presume your knives won't degrade at a rate where you run out.

>>715303748
>How about "rape" scenes that were removed?
Anon, that was Ito Masahiro more than anything considering he constantly talked about how much he hated retards (such as yourself) who misunderstood that scene, and the premise of PH.
>>715303795
>Mega man jaws downgrades arent sexual
Except nu-Maria was an even more sluttier than OG Maria.
>>more violent
>Why are you lying?
Why are you acting disingenuous?

>>715304084
>this much head cannon
kek. take meds before you kill someone

>>715304084
>Why are you acting disingenuous?
because none of the remake attack dogs are sincere. They don't play video games they play youtube videos.

>>715304165
I'm sorry Ito thinks you're retarded.
>>715304227
>They don't play video games they play youtube videos.
Don't bring the SH2 fandom into this.

>>715304084
I like how you forgot about Angela in your point.
You demake fags are the most disingenuous faggots ever

>>715304084
I despise gooners, but this is just blatanly lying. I don't give a fuck about ito's tweets. death of the author... I mean the OG is literally a hommage to fucking BLUE VELVET where IN THE SAME SCENE RAPE HAPPENS. japs are disingenious af, they goon all day to babies being raped, but putting an adult scene in a game for ADULTS??? OMG CAN'T DO THAT. but every book store is full of babies in bikinis
2 nukes were not enough

>>715304084
>>715304354

so since I put them in "" that means they are actually rape scenes? You seem seriously retarded.
>more violent
oh man, If only the point of the game was violence
>Except nu-Maria was an even more sluttier than OG Maria.
One is sexy conceptually. The other is a disgusting annoying hag and no tummy allowed

>>715304049
>It is because the game already gives you a fuckton of knives in the main game and you can just repair your main one and upgrade its durability.
The game accounts for that like RE2Rs dynamic difficulty.

>>715304696
You're such a clown.

Ito was right. SH2fags ARE losers, lol

>>715304453
Ito is full of shit and he didn't direct or write the fucking game. You have the making of video where they stated that PH is doing SOMETHING sexual and you have Sato talking about themes of sex and death.

>>715302763
but that's true, you big retard. Akira and Ito said throughout the years that SH3 was originally going to be another standalone game just like SH2 before Konami told Team Silent to change it to SH1 sequel because Japanese fans hated SH2 and wanted a proper sequel to SH1. Akira and Ito also stated that the game had the darkest story that they could've come up with, with a lot of scenes that probably could not be shown even in a full mature-rated video game. Team Silent hated Konami for forcing them to change their original vision and they wanted to reuse it in SH5 before the game got canceled in 2006 after Konami disbanded Team Silent and handed the franchise to outsourced western devs

https://www.silenthillmemories.net/creators/interviews/2005.04.23_imamura_yamaoka_gameworld_en.htm
https://silenthill.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_cancelled_Silent_Hill_projects

>>715304968
what a low blow from a fucking incel fetish artist
LOL LMAO EVEN
japs can't do anything with actual depth

>>715305020
>Ito is full of shit and he didn't direct or write the fucking game
But here's the thing, have any of the devs go on to say that otherwise? Like recently?

>>715305430
>abuse is not rape
>it is made to look sexual, but it isn't rape
LOL

>>715305086
you are abusing the word FORCED you moron. Just cause they wanted to do something else doesn't mean what they created was LE FORCED. In that same interview, you have the guy stating that they didn't wanna do the same thing again. And it's certainly not the reason why Cybil was not mentioned in SH3.
>akira yamaoka
lol

>>715305430
kys nubzombie

>>715305589
hes right. you cant rape an inanimate object

>>715305589
>>715305430
sexual abuse isn't rape. He is being contrarian because he hates the idea of some mentally retarded people fapping to this scene and he acts like that because people are chasing clout online while pretending to find everything arousing

>>715305879
he
is
a
fetish
artist
posting
nothing
but
fetish
horror
porn

>>715305879
>sexual abuse isn't rape
>t. indian

>>715302763
>>715305086

>>715304968
>>715305187
>>715305430

Ito should've never discovered Twitter. He was just a normal kind Japanese man who liked to make cool weird art and wanted to interact with the western fans of the series, expecting that random western people on the internet would have the same level of culture and manners as average people in Japan. Boy how naive he was. The ape-like nature of all of those people on Twitter not only destroyed him mentally over the years but also infected him with the same juvenile ape-like attitude and way of talking. It's also obvious that Konami is holding a knife on his throat to some degree seeing how often he kept changing his mind

I can't wait for SH1R. One, because I know it'll be as good as 2R. Two, because I can't wait for the troons on vee to shit their pants when they remember how much emphasis there was on fighting. And three, for when they cry out that Cybil and Lisa aren't naked whenever they are on screen.

Pyramid Head is James' punishment to wake him up and set him free, why would he need to even be a rapist in the first place?

>>715306124

>>715276197
It's this. It's forgettable, but not without merit. It makes suck-ass decisions regarding a bunch of shit, but the general vibe is Silent Hill.
The understood about half of the assignment.

Hello anon

>>715306562
>The understood about half of the assignment.
According to who? A bunch of trannies on a video game board who barely understood the original?

>>715305086
>>715302763
>>715306106
>GW: So the series is getting larger, gaining more momentum, and was coming out on a yearly basis, right?
>Imamura: Well, keep in mind SH4 was not originally suppose to be a Silent Hill.
>Yamaoka: We did see a significant increase in popularity after the first game and even more so after the second. Originally the intention was not to make SH3 a direct sequel to the first game. In fact, the scenario was completely different, but fans seemed to want to tie up some loose ends, so we tried that, even though some on the staff did not agree with the decission.
>even more so after the second
Looks like SH2 was popular even before all the Youtubers brainwashed everyone into loving it like I've been told by random people online.

i didn't like how they leaned in on the "therapy town" reddit head cannon

i didn't like how they leaned in on the "therapy town" reddit headcanon

people still don't know silent hill f stands for
silent hill five

>>715306330
Pyramid Head (Doctors) is (are) also supposed to represent James' hatred for doctors who couldn't save Mary, similar to how Bubble Head Nurses represent James' lust towards nurses back when Mary couldn't give him any due to being bedridden in the hospital and physically weak. The scene at the Blue Creek apartments where Pyramid Head kills the mannequins looks like sex because it's supposed to hint at James' sexual frustration back when Mary was ill. Masahiro Ito even said that he was originally making a cutscene with Pyramid Head and Bubble Head Nurse at the Brookhaven hospital but Konami told him to cut it from the game because it looked even more sexual and rapey than the scene with the mannequins

>>715306124

>>715307074
I saw what you did

>>715307425
delet this

>>715296182
You're not supposed to know he's insane, you're supposed to identify with him at first and then slowly watch him change. The other guy is right, seeing a crazy guy be crazy and unlikeable from the get go is fucking stupid, it makes no sense that james wouldn't just run in the other direction as far as possible from that disgusting creature. They flanderized him and made him a caricature of a person.

Why did James not just cheat instead of killing his wife?

>>715307731
james is a narcissistic psycho. the remake made him way too likeable

>>715306924
SH2 is one of the games for the PS2 lineup back in 2001, so normiefags ate it up, but somehow over the years, the fandom changed hands as ecelebs got their hands on it.

>>715296182
>>715296867
>>715307646
You guys are getting your Eddies confused. Remake was the one that gave him humanity, the original was a caricature of a person. Same thing with how Luke Roberts actually gave James the humanity to be a piece of shit that Guy Cihi couldn't because Guy's James sounded too silly.

>>715308786

>>715308786
Wasn’t the silliness intentional? It was Lynchian and unique

demake shills are getting really desperate with their trolling

>>715309165
>It was Lynchian and unique
No, that was SH1.

>>715308786
>Remake was the one that gave him humanity
lol

the high system requirements for the epic preset are james' punishment for not updating his GPU or adjusting settings to scale to his hardware

>>715308051
what's up with retards like having the most autistic takes under the sun?

>>715309460

>>715309460
>>715309579

every new addition in the demake is so gay and aggressively in your face. you can tell that western devs who had nothing to do with the og game made it

>>715305086
>>715306106
>team split in half to make SH4 at the same time because Konami wanted Silent Hill to become a yearly franchise like Call Of Duty and Fifa
>half of development time wasted on Konami's retarded idea of turning the game into an Arcade rail shooter because those games were popular in Japanese arcades in the 2000s
>lower budget because Japs hated SH2 and the game didn't sell as well as SH1
>entire story changed halfway through development because the concept of Heather being raped by a cult member and having to become a mother of a monster child and struggling with the fear of adulthood at the age of 17 was too dark
>Konami also told Team Silent that fans in general wanted answers to the first game with a cult involved instead of another stand-alone plot

Big shame desu. I still love Silent Hill 3 for what it is but I wish I could go back in time and stop all of those Konami hacks from running Team Silent's original vision

>>715309539
>killing your wife who is dying anyways, just you can go fuck some hooker faster is not psycho
indian

>>715307646
>They flanderized him and made him a caricature of a person.
That's literally EVERYONE in the original. The Japanese don't understand how people in the West act, so they go by their movies instead. Why do you think the dialogue is so clunky? It was written by Japanese with a shaky understanding of the English language who probably have never actually met Americans.

Is the body and letter you found in the end of the road of the Historical Society (if you ignore it and keep following the road) a new addition?

>>715309964
they literally had some american translator (blaustein or something) co-writing the english script. cope & dilate

>>715310127
Cool, he did a fucking terrible job.

>>715310064

>>715309964
That awkward, stilted dialogue is exactly what gives SH2 its charm though. It's like watching a dream try to imitate a conversation, which fits since the whole game feels like James is stuck wandering through a foggy limbo inside his own guilt. You think “normal” Western dialogue would’ve hit the same eerie tone? Nah, the jank made it feel otherworldly, not just “bad writing.”

>>715309964
>Why do you think the dialogue is so clunky?

Nothing in the game was an accident or mistake, the dialogue is evasive and cryptic on purpose because none of the people in the game are real. They are all faces that the crimson one is wearing while testing james. There is a whole hidden story in the weird details in the game that do not fit with the main plot. James is dead, he's wandering through purgatory and going through the trials over and over again. He starts the game at the scenic overlook holding a letter and ends the game there holding that same letter that mary or laura gives him. Blooper team ran with it and made SH2 demake what comes after james gets the water ending, that's why every level in the demake is wet.

>>715310883
You’re getting 1 and 2 confused. It worked in 1 because it actually felt like a fever dream. But in SH2 it came off overly dramatic, to the point of being goofy. My personal favorite being pizza with Eddie.

>>715310935
>that's why every level in the demake is wet
Except It's not.

>>715311340
It's always either wet or raining, even in the other world segments.

>nu-/v/ says it's pure kino
>it's actually cunny kino and nothing more

I honestly never bought that angela, eddy and laura were real. fuck the devs, it doesn't make sense

>>715309873
>the game didn't sell as well as SH1
We don't actually know that. All we know is that the sales in Japan were slower than of the first game per Ito himself and that it sold 1 million copies on PS2 alone in just the first month which is not accounting for the sales on PC or Xbox, the latter of which sold well enough to become a Platinum Hits re-release 2 years later.

Also keep in mind that Konami never published sales for SH1 either, those numbers came from Sato's online resume. We know that SH3 and SH4 sold less than 400K on both PS2 and Xbox because they never got Greatest Hits or Platinum Hits re-releases on either platform and SH3 was never ported to Xbox to begin with.

According to Konami's own website, the Silent Hill series has sold a combined total of 11.5 million since the first game. From the official and unofficial published sales numbers for individual titles that gives us only 5.3 million. That's a lot of unaccounted for sales still missing and most of them can probably safely be assumed to belong primarily to the first two titles.

https://www.konami.com/corporate/en/business/digitalentertainment.html

>>715306124
holy fucking r/gamingcirclejerk

>>715311658
Stay there sis

>>715276090 (OP)
Mary/maria's VA sucks in the remake, everyone else is a big improvement though, especially James.

>>715308786
>caricature
inigomontoya.jpg

>>715311571
I know the source of this

>>715311571
>>it's actually cunny kino
James literally walks off into the sunset hand-in-hand with Laura in the GOOD ending.
It's wild.

>>715312959
I’ll get an ending like that someday.

>>715309919
James killed Mary after months of going through mental hell, her angrily lashing out at him (and everyone else in her family according to her letter), and not being able to stand seeing her suffer all the time. he immediately regretted it and drove to silent hill because he had promised her to take her there again someday. even when he tells her that he hated her and wanted her out of the way at the end of the game, she immediately asks him why "he looks so sad".

James only acts selfish in the Maria Ending where he learns nothing and it's implied that he will go through the same journey in the otherworld yet again

>>715311571
I hope you kill yourself.

>>715312024
gladly kill yourself

>>715312959
>James: I hate you lmao
>Mary: That's coo. Here's a little girl.

>>715313761
Konami STILL owe my nigga Guy money.

>>715305430
>>715305187
>>715304968
>>715305430
Ito is a treasure desu

Fuck i just want to know what the SH1 remake is going to do with cybil, are they really going to kill her off again?

>>715312024
>the original SH2 is almost 25 years old now and retards STILL don't understand the emotionally detached dialogue and acting is intentional
Kinda like they're, y'know, emotionally damaged people that are being forced to face their demons.
But naaaahhhh it's just le bad! My favorite e-celeb told me so! And they said that's why we needed a remake!

Please don't ever watch a David Lynch movie, and please don't ever have opinions on David Lynch movies.

>>715278789
Twin peaks acting isn't bad though I saw it all for the first time last year. It's stilted in a soap opera way but it's not bad. There's multiple examples of great acting like Bobby's dad telling him his dream and Bobby crying etc.
I know what you mean though and sh2 also has good acting imo. It's part of the dreamlike vibe. Everything is a little too slow and drawn out. Makes it feel a bit off

>>715292846
>>715296923
Can't be that easy if you missed two of your shots and then have to resort to using a grenade to avoid getting swarmed after you couldn't knee cap the second lady ganado. I'm going to have to concur with the other anon that you're just a poser.

>>715311565
>It's always either wet or raining
Yeah, outside. I'll give you that one.
Interiors weren't wet. They look decayed. Some of them look moldy, like in original.
And original had "water" segments too, like the nightmare lakeview hotel.
https://youtu.be/k7Kr15i7qeI?feature=shared&t=14104

>>715315931
He was setting them up for the grenade.

>>715316212
>He was setting them up for the grenade.
Sure you were.

>>715286571
I like SM, but it gives me sexual pleasure knowing that the "SM is the SH1 remake!" retards got BTFO

>>715316270
He’s in no danger, he had grenade, barbs and plenty of shotgun ammo. He’s aiming for the legs because of how easily they drop.

>>715316656
>He
You missed three of your shots so you had to resort to a grenade for crowd control because you nearly ran out of ammo and panicked because you saw Dr. Salvador coming and unlike the old games you can't just reload from your inventory screen.

>>715295472
>I literally can't wait until the SH1R remake so that you shit your pants and cry and moan about the combat, when that had even more aggressive enemies than 2.
I can't help but chuckle imagining SH fans playing 1 for the first time and getting absolutely RAPED in the Otherworld

>>715317082
The leg shits already did a fantastic job of keeping the crowd controlled tho. He is no danger.

>>715310127
Blaustein didn't co-write jack fucking shit. He was a script translator, nothing more. He has successfully managed to take credit as the sole voice director in the eyes of the West and the Silent Hill wiki but the BTS and Guy Cihi's own statements support the notion that he wasn't physically present during a lot of the recording and didn't show up at all some days. An old interview Cihi did also confirms that there were multiple directors present during the recording and mocap sessions.

>>715317548
>He
There's nothing you can say that will change the fact that the webm you posted proves that you're not nearly as skilled as you pretend to be.

>>715317874
Anon, check the archives.

My only gripes are the poor performance/optimization, some of the characters redesigns, weird cutsene animations and other misc things. Oh also No born from a wish DLC, no PS2 models as skins, no unlockable classic camera, no classic game progression.

>>715318058
All this tells me is that you have too much time on your hands like a certain other webm spamming schizo in Silent Hill threads.

>>715318934
>No born from a wish DLC
adds nothing to the story

>>715286571
>it's actually a pretty good game

It was perhaps the best one that came post TS, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a good game. The game is extremely linear and repetitive, even for a SH game, and while the exploration and interaction was neat, the town sections lose all their charm was you are aware there's no danger when exploring it. The "nightmare" sequences are even more pathetic as they are just run away from monsters in circles until you find the exit.

Other than the multiple endings and how the game changed depending on your choices, it was an interactive walk simulator.

>>715321415
>the town sections lose all their charm was you are aware there's no danger when exploring it.
I mean… reminds me of another SH.

>>715321991
Which one? every SH except SM has monsters roaming around the town, they are not exclusive to the nightmare sections.

>>715292910
I love how Harry isnt even in this diagram at ALL. What a fucking CHAD!
Also is the SH Origins MC really "depressed"? i dont remember him having any real character or emotions.. hm

>>715294904
>Silent Hill 2 Remake does have better combat than the original. That's not up for debate
Being better mechanically doesn't mean much when it does a far worse job with the amount of variety in relation to just how much combat there is compared to the original. The plank is awful in the original which makes getting the much improved steel pipe after the apartments feel a lot better whereas the remake couldn't be bothered to make a different set of animations or a second set of attacks for the measly 3 melee weapons it provides you with so the steel pipe is effectively just a buffed version of the plank and doesn't even have a longer reach either so it outright just replaces the plank literally you don't even get to keep it after getting the pipe.

>>715323048
>>715294904
>>715294904
The remake also actively takes away 3 weapons from the original since again the steel pipe doesn't really count as a different weapon at all outside of a slight increase in damage and the Great Knife and Hyper Spray are both missing. They even have the audacity to tease you with the Great Knife that you never actually get to use because it's just turned into a puzzle piece now. Yes they made the Mandarin able to walk on ground and gave the Mannequins a 2nd form too but it's one step forward and two steps back wih these Bloober idiots and people are unironically praising them for it because all they care about is that it "feels good to play" which just means it has to play like every other modern OTS horror game out there for a one-and-done experience that they've already forgotten about as soon as they turn the game off. Two of the bosses also have the same 2nd phase spider forms now btw.

>>715322440
SH2, where you never felt in any real danger unlike SH1 where it was actually scary to be out.

>>715323048
>>715323192
TRVTH NVKE

>>715323192
>Two of the bosses also have the same 2nd phase spider forms now btw.
I’ll take over the original where one boss is just three copies, and another randomly showing up at the end despite heavily being tied to Angela.

>>715323192
I felt like the remake forced me to kill as many monsters as I could, like I was punished for trying to run away and would be constantly put in rooms where I had no choice but to gun them down. The mannequins were the most annoying enemies, and their spider versions were even worse. I loathed the prison segment, even more so than in the original.

>>715321415
Origins is the best post SH4 game, it was still at least a survival horror game. SM isn't even a horror game

You could never do the Spider-Mannequins in the original because you’d just automatically lock on your them, effectively killing any tension.

>>715323767
>I’ll take over the original where one boss is just three copies
You would rather have two bosses that share the same phase over six different boss fights that all behave differently and require different approaches because two of them have you fighting one or two clones at the same time in the same fight? You don't make a lot of sense.

>>715324662
>You could never do the Spider-Mannequins in the original because
the radio statics work as intended?

what a shitty thread

>>715325495
I’d rather not have anything as halfassed as the original, is what I’m saying.

>>715326209
That's not what you were saying though and calling the original half-assed while doing nothing but praising the remake is certainly ironic if nothing else >>715292606

>>715323220
>>715324220
>SM isn't even a horror game
You keep associating difficulty with horror in every single one of these threads. I don't think you actually understand what horror is about or how psychological horror works.

>>715276090 (OP)
>and at times better
why is every remakefag like this?

>>715327517
I’ll take a glitch over >>715291613 where it’s coded to look goofy.

>>715328984
No working hit detection is not a glitch.

Lol did they use lumen to make the fog

>>715328870
Its true though, even the most diehard og silent hill 2 fans will tell you the eddie fight is garbage

>>715276231
GOOD MORNING SIR

>>715329130
Never happened to me lol

>>715329495
>he doesn't understand what hit detection is
You're not very bright are you?

It's a mid game, honestly.
I play the OG SH2 every year, this year I'm playing with the over the shoulder camera mod to just change things a little bit.
But SH2R misses the mark. The cutscenes are inferior. They keep focusing on the FACE.
They have a FACE MOCAP TECH so they NEED TO SHOW IT, which detracts from every single cutscene.
My issue with the remake:
-plays like every single other over the shoulder UE5 game ever made
-padded to hell and back
-is that a brand new room that wasn't in the original game? I wonder what is th- ammo and mannequin, repeat 10x
-the aesthetic is taken straight from the movies, not from the original game
-sanitized textures, they have no grunge grime whatsoever
-boss fight changes (every boss except for eddie roars now)
-seriously, the roaring is a real fucking problem, am I playing a generic fucking MMO? why is every boss roaring with particles falling from the ceiling?
-Maria's VA sounds bored (good as Mary, though, except for the letter reading)
-Maria is not sexy
-Maria is not flirt
-Maria is not Maria
-Absolutely garbage butchered letter reading and they removed important parts of the letter
-Angela's VA can't act
-Extra Angela scene to further show that Angela's VA can't act
-Laura sounds like the idea of a child written by a gen x/late millennial that has never interacted with a child before
-Awful cutscene direction

Pros:
Eddie's fight improvement
Bliss ending
James' VA
Mandarin "boss" fight

SH2, great game. Remake, not so much

>>715329686
>the aesthetic is taken straight from the movies, not from the original game
Faggot ass liar

>>715276090 (OP)
Bliss ending made me cry. Only subhumans cannot comprehend how much more sad it is than in water.

>>715276090 (OP)
>The Silent Hill 2 remake is on par with (and at times better) than the original.
The hell it is.

>>715329383
adding sick combat dodges and modernized slop gameplay didn't suddenly make it good

The hard truth that nobody wants to admit is that SH2 coasts heavily on the plot, music and atmosphere. Yeah, it very much rips off Crime and Punishment and David Lynch movies, but the Japanese don’t care, they see something they like, they’ll take it. The voice acting, the gameplay is mediocre, and the worst part about the game. Which is crazy because Konami had Kojima showing that you could have good gameplay and voice acting to go along with your plots, atmosphere and music.

>>715276090 (OP)
>Remake everything to a T
>But the important parts
>And rewrite the ending letter
>And any mention to suicidal thoughts

Gay as fuck remake
Gay as fuck (you)

>>715278432
All the characters acting like schizotypal spergs is part of the charm

Remake just feels like one of those MARIO IF UNREAL ENGINE
Butchered aesthetic

>>715329857
Exactly. The remake has that weird Hollywood polish that sucks all the atmosphere out and replaces it with face mocap and HDR lighting. It’s like someone read a Lindelof script and said “What if Silent Hill but prestige TV?” OG SH2 felt like a nightmare dripping with rot and guilt - the remake feels like it was built in a sterile lab by people who googled “what is trauma.”

>>715304084
>Except nu-Maria was an even more sluttier than OG Maria.
They censored her tummy stfu

>>715288334
So how would a new player know what button to press when they turn off the prompts?

>>715337710
there's a tutorial pop up before the first enemy that can grab you. prompts off was the default for me

>>715304084
>Except nu-Maria was an even more sluttier than OG Maria.

Not with that outfit and inflated head

>>715276090 (OP)
I shitposted with all the rest about how bad it was. I still can't stand a lot of the scenes, but I'll admit they could have never pleased me. They put a lot of effort into the environments. It's a good looking game. I hate the gameplay changes but I'm not going to delude you about how SH2 had good gameplay, it doesn't, but the problem is the difference in amount and time spent doing it detracts from the focus on the story and the horror because it becomes a rote activity.

>>715295775
>BDSP was a decent remake because it actually addressed Sinnoh's awful selection of pokemon during the early to mid game
this was already done in 2009 by platinum without shoving everything into the underground while removing secret bases, still locking items like the razor fang to the postgame, and actually adding these "new" pokemon in the dex to enemy teams, retard

bdsp's issues go way past just muh fire types